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  1. Mar 2024
  2. Feb 2024
  3. Jan 2024
    1. Cross-posted a social post on Mastodon.

      Very cool! I'd love to read about your setup, will look around.

  4. Jul 2023
    1. To [[contribute]] to the Agora, first you need to publish your [[digital garden]] or [[content]] elsewhere online. The Agora doesn't host your data, but rather pulls it from a location you control and renders it for you and other users; it interlinks it with that of other users.

      This is obviously required, because it's by design.

  5. Jun 2023
    1. designing information infrastructure in ways that favour de-centralisation

      designing constellation for information creation/curation/conversational collaboration harnessing decen(tralized) protocols

      decentralization shifts the parading from centralized silos to a decent/distributed modes, at the edges, where we, the people operate, with increase in autonomy.

      But what is needed is to flip the centralized paradigm and put people at the center.

      Interpersonal trust networks build for trust from trust,

      Empowering individuals and communities to create their own - autonomous digital spaces of their own

      that are born interoperable with anything in that - space of permanent hypermedia - HyperDocuments,

      that are - local first, - offline first for all participants

      yet supports interpersonal collaboration in all collaborative modalities, - real-(time, - eventually consistent async messaging, - continuous without being synchronous,

      while maintaining - full contiguity of their own personal/community work and digital engagements

      independent of the tools they use for that purpose.

      As the IndyVerse/Web/Net/Lab/Learning Commons is piloted at the moment

      it also offers deep integration with - web annotation services like Hypothesis and Memex, but any other system can readily be bi integrated (two ways) as plug-outs ready to be integrated into individuals' own(ed) workflows

      the IndyWeb also makes use of TrailMarks (generalized into HyperMarks in the IndyVerse of Intentional Morphic HyperDocuments

      that itself has 'Universality' in the sense of "Universal Machines'

      providing a universal way of designating info structures on the fly, as one writes, and intended interpretation across hypermedia content decouple from the means that were used to create them Where documents are not considered enclosures but dynamic views in a global giant emergent permanent digital spaces

      in the first place. Think of TrailMarks as a plain text Symmathetic Mark-In notation that can be added to any content unobtrusively along with the machinery needed to play this intentional/semanttic/symmathetic game

      That's what the indyWeb/Net/Hub/Lab pilots

      It aims to complete existing systems, including centralized ones.

      Centralized system offer global reach, at the risk of censorship, decentralized systems are uncensorable but very limited in reach as they represent technical and other barriers to on-boarding.

      On the IndyWeb that Flips the web from server/provider centric to People-centric

      IndyNet offers zero friction on-boarding and proogressiver trust networks with potential eventually global reach where servi

      for - flipped web - offline first

  6. Mar 2023
    1. inter personal knowledge graph that integrates with [[hypothesis]] and [[memex]] annotations too"

      Description

    1. Graph still loading... console.log("loading graph...") fetch("https://anagora.org/graph/json/all").then(res => res.json()).then(data => { const container = document.getElementById('agoragraph'); const currentTheme = localStorage.getItem("theme"); // const backgroundColor = (currentTheme == 'light' ? 'rgba(255, 255, 255, 1)' : 'rgba(50, 50, 50, 1)') const backgroundColor = (currentTheme == 'light' ? 'rgba(255, 255, 255, 1)' : 'rgba(50, 50, 50, 1)') const edgeColor = (currentTheme == 'light' ? 'rgba(50, 50, 50, 1)' : 'rgba(200, 200, 200, 1)') const AgoraGraph = ForceGraph()(container); AgoraGraph.height(container.clientHeight) .width(container.clientWidth) .nodeId('id') .nodeVal('val') // .nodeRelSize(6) .nodeAutoColorBy('user') .zoom(0.1) .onNodeClick(node => { // let url = "https://anagora.org/" + node.id; let url = node.id; location.assign(url) }) .graphData(data); // AgoraGraph.zoom(3); // AgoraGraph.onEngineStop(() => AgoraGraph.zoomToFit(400)); }); // fit to canvas when engine stops console.log("graph loaded.")

      This graph usually loads forever / does not load, but that will hopefully be fixed soon :)

  7. Sep 2022
  8. Aug 2022
    1. Our fears associated with answering our questions stifle our desires to seek out answers. As children, we don’t have the same fears we do today. We’re not worried by what society will think. We’re not worried of being wrong - in fact we almost always are in the beginning. We’re not willing to settle. We just want to reach out and touch the flame.

      This made me think of [[zen mind, beginner's mind]].

  9. Jul 2022
    1. I was only able to spend fifteen minutes in [[powell's books]] but I loved every minute of it and it was enough to know it's amazing.

      I think there are many great relationships to have with Powell's. Dropping in to get one thing you need. Running by to smell the book air to restore one's faith. Spending enough time browsing to merit paying rent. Pseudo lending library cycles. Etc.

    1. A local copy of [[Wikipedia]] could be a good thing to have on our laptops.

      Worth looking into RACHEL pi, I'd guess

    1. idea to make a [[memex]] for the agora. browser extension where node name is url of page and each annotation is a blockquote with comment for that node

      isn't the agora itself aiming for memexdom?

    1. One says to oneself that there must be happy people somewhere. Well then! Unless you get that out of your head, you have understood nothing about [[psychoanalysis]]. — [[Jacques Lacan]], Seminar III

      I really enjoy this from a meta perspective of tone. Eau de French intellectual

    1. My brain is going wild right now thinking about all the [[p2p systems]] I want to build

      I am really curious as to what will end up of p2p matrix. Aesthetically I favor hypercore ("here is a CLI and it do magic") but there's Big Energy around Matrix so who knows

    1. [[email]] is decentralized but >90% of people use gmail/hotmail

      How true is this if we consider business email? Or: even when businesses use Google business packages, they have the ability to pick up their namespace and leave. That seems pretty important to how email can be relied upon for interbusiness communication. And interbusiness communication is less Important, in a greater sense, than my mom and I sending each other friendly notes in between Proton and gmail -- but much more Infrastructurally Important.

      Might also be interesting to get meta about why it is that we think first of individual consumer email when evaluating email's centralization.

    1. browser extension where node name is url of page and each annotation is a blockquote with comment for that node

      Yes! We discussed this with [[diego de la hera]] recently.

  10. Jun 2022
    1. (I wonder who you are, you reading this. If you are interested consider leaving an annotation using the Hypothesis side bar or reaching out :)

      HI IT'S DA ONE

      I left two more Hypo annotations on other addresses where this journal is visible

    1. (I wonder who you are, you reading this. If you are interested consider leaving an annotation using the Hypothesis side bar or reaching out :)

      it's me (the one) here as well

      first found this and added hypo on https://anagora.org/journals

    1. (I wonder who you are, you reading this. If you are interested consider leaving an annotation using the Hypothesis side bar or reaching out :)

      it's me bro it's the one

  11. May 2022
    1. The fungus provides water and minerals, shape and form, while the algae makes food through photosynthesis.

      Sounds like a sweet deal!

    1. In my paper writing, I put wikilinks around things that I want to follow up on. They stand out visually when you scan back over something afterwards.

      I do the same often!

    1. Art nouveau

      I also get the same vibe -- I wonder if it has to do with art nouveau being already "the next thing" which is in the air, and that being conflated with a vision of the future 20y in the future or so; it feeling like a natural reaction to modernism/high modernism due to the organic feel and the focus on details, which incidentally may become "unlocked" for scalable (sustainable?) mass production with the full advent of 3d printing.

    2. Automation of human labour

      fully automated luxury communism

    3. Creative re-use of existing infrastructure

      Link to bolo bolo, squatting

    4. voluntary federations of small polities

      Flancia!

      Perhaps a light patch? I'd have gone with "polities of all sizes", but perhaps I'm wrong.

    1. datasette]] https://datasette.io/

      I think the stuff people are doing with "hey we can shove sql in the browser" is so cool -- I wish I could think of something to do with it!

  12. Apr 2022
    1. My Nitter and Miniflux combo on YunoHost still going well for [[reading tweets without being on Twitter]]. I use it to keep up with what's going on with organisations local to me, who are still on legacy social media platforms. Could still do with something that works well for RSSifying Facebook.

      Very interesting! Have you noded instructions on how to reproduce?

    1. My Nitter and Miniflux combo on YunoHost still going well for [[reading tweets without being on Twitter]]. I use it to keep up with what's going on with organisations local to me, who are still on legacy social media platforms. Could still do with something that works well for RSSifying Facebook.

      Very interesting! Have you noded instructions on how to reproduce?

    1. Also, they're trying out [[cohousing]], which of course immediately pricks up my ears.

      Awesome!

      Reminds me of the [[hutterites]] which I learnt of only recently. And of course the [[kibbutz]]?

    2. zmanim,

      💌

    3. a deeper level

      Made me think of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Close_reading, which L. sometimes mentions.

    4. But these women were clearly getting something very, very important from going much deeper with much less.

      What is that 'much less' they focus on?

    1. Flancian

      You can have ever green annotations as every page is ever green and from there you can acces the past as well as the future

    1. A good explanation of how the protocol works.

      Thank you, Jake! This was very useful.

    1. Signed up for a spring reading challenge, to read 10 books in 10 weeks. Will use this opportunity to go deep on [[Ernest Hemingway]]. I've only read two of his books before, [[The Snows of Kilimanjaro]] and [[The Old Man and the Sea]]. The ten weeks starts on Monday, so better get ready.

      Very cool! Which books are you going to tackle first?

      I have to say I've never read Hemingway, and given that I studied literature I feel a bit bad about it. I'll try to correct.

  13. Mar 2022
    1. something really radical can be collaged together out of traditional texts

      for some reason this made me think of [[everything is a remix]] in a completely different context.

    1. YunoHost]] keeps going from strength to strength in its awesomeness.

      Awesome, thank you so much for pointing this out!

    2. Journals for the last 31 days with entries

      ✨✨Consider visiting the day's node before commenting, so your annotation won't end up stranded when a month is past✨✨

    3. Supposedly [[Matrix]] is getting proper native video calling soon. I'm both excited for that and dreading whatever kind of firewall changes will be necessary -- our home network is Extremely Complicated, I am told.

      Apparently called [[element call]]: call.element.io

      We could give it a try for the next [[flancia meet]] or [[agora meet]]?

    4. Today (and last night until 1 in the morning) I'm retheming my wiki! Is [[CSS]] a hobby?

      It totally is :)

      As you can probably see it's not my hobby, but I have similar things I do on weekends -- like organize and improve my messy ~/bin directory with random utilities, or trying to make my window manager recover layouts across boots -- this kind of thing.

    1. (all the garments you own were sewed by skilled workers from whom you are entirely alienated; think about why you can treat clothing casually)

      As a thought experiment: imagine if every textile worker was allowed to attach a small QR code to each garment they personally work on, allowing the end user to donate directly to them (after having bought the item as they do today).

      Such a mechanism could be extended to all artisanally produced items carrying a pointer to all people that did work for the production of the item.

    2. it's not just that you should fold them because it's more practical than having a heap, it's that they merit being treated with dignity.

      Huh! I like the idea of folding some pieces of clothing, like t-shirts -- but I like heaps of socks (then again, all my socks are black.)

      Although I'm open to it, I'm not sure I'm into the idea of applying the concept of dignity to socks somehow. Perhaps it's better to save the concept for sentient beings only?

    3. [[konmari]]

      TIL :)

    1. via [[tiv]]: oh my god there are so many daily podcasts I didn't even know.

      This is fantastic, thanks!

    1. Gabriel Boric]]. This feels like good news today. h/t [[Flancian]]

      I think the same! \o/

    1. I had a pretty bad day at work yesterday, ended up the day feeling drained and low.

      Sorry to hear this! Hope it has / will pass.

    1. exploring a number-associative [[mind palace

      I love this!!

      I haven't written too much about it yet, but I've been starting to pop up random notes and classify them with astrological houses -- I wonder if contemplating each in sequence works with a less numerical focus?

    1. I sometimes wonder if we are not all characters, or (using a metaphor which is very apropos at the time of writing) processes. Perhaps characters, people and processes are aspects of the same thing. Or possible instantiations of one another. Perhaps a character in a movie is in a way sad when they cry, and feels horrible just when they're about to die when the plot requires it. They are a kind of process, like we are -- just not one very well described, because of limitations of the medium. Their qualias exist, but they are perhaps weaker than ours. Did you get that? If not, it's alright. We'll be on the same page someday. Now please read this short story:

      This is raw :) I really need to edit, sorry for any discomfort!

  14. Feb 2022
    1. How the hell do you sanitize HTML input? Oh my god the things I have never had to deal with in my job) Slap a whostyle on it and call it good, maybe?

      I think this generalizes to the dimensionality reduction/lossiness problem when converting between formats. I think of an Agora as a graph where nodes are sets of arbitrarily typed resources. Clients might want to 'clamp down' or 'upres' into different formats preferred by users.

      In general I feel like we need a protocol for managing format conversion and lossiness negotiations?

    2. All of this would require mf2 markup all over everything specifying canonical links etc. etc. etc.

      My current "plan" for all these garden-explicit complexities has been "put the details in your agora.yaml". Which isn't implemented yet :)

      But I guess there could also be a matching protocol or mechanism here for specifying default resolution policies and such at a higher level.

    3. (Should it point to my own subnode, or should a self link be presumed to route to the topic node? I can see arguments either way)

      Yes, I think this probably points to customization -- when implementing, though, I've usually just tended to 'eagerly go up to social level' because returning more resources seems (IMHO) to be generally more interesting for any given query (ranking discussions also pending.)

    4. Maybe roll with a custom property to denote "this linked node is the 'node id' of this piece of content"

      :)

    5. The "hey I have a link on my page to you" protocol. Doesn't have to just be used for likes or replies -- can also indicate an intent for syndication or permission to aggregate. (Also a bunch of stuff that probably seemed more compelling when San Francisco people were really into Foursquare, I guess)

      This is a great explanation, thank you!

      I guess you could get 'nodes' by web mentioning URLs agreed to represent abstract nodes? e.g. mentioning anagora.org/indieweb-agora means someone is pushing a resource to it, perhaps.

      Is there a 'collection' like mechanism within the indieweb already, if not? Could feeds be that?

    6. having the published thing be the canonical thing rather than sharing the pre-rendered format,

      To clarify, you think transcluding fully rendered (say, html?) posts/objects would be better than basing the system on e.g. Markdown and rendering all resources uniformly?

      I guess I'd like to support both -- readers might enjoy a reader mode, after all :) You could say anagora started with reader mode.

    7. This is the only dead necessary thing for a really Indiewebby beginning. An option for that hosting could be provided by the Agora for convenience, but the key is that all the integration has to presume it might be, you know, some [[Wordpress]] thing somewhere.

      Precisely!

      Out of curiosity: do you see this point as fully anagora compatible or not? I think it should be (or we meant it to be), as the Agora does not host user content, but rather pulls from user-owned sources (currently mostly repositories, but not exclusively).

    8. This isn't to say I think it should be done this way, particularly because the amazing thing that's been built exists and works, but I think it's fun to imagine how the Indieweb principles and primitives could build up a similar thing to the good stuff we've got going here.

      This is amazing, thank you! I think we should build something like the Agora with the best tools and protocols we have -- if we do it with good intent and a kind heart it will be an Agora by definition for me, regardless of implementations details :)

    1. How can you make [[people]] think a [[majority]] [[believe]] in Something? How can you make it seem like your revolution is inevitable?

      Very interesting questions!

    1. it's a holiday in the US though

      Reading you write this was the first I'd heard of it 😭

  15. anagora.org anagora.org
    1. An unreasonable amount of my time today went on getting a monitor to display at the right resolution. [[xrandr: Configure crtc 0 failed problems]].

      [[xrandr]] really behaves mysteriously sometimes. I have a monitor that just refuses to turn on in certain situations, and has stopped accepting anything beyond full hd as a resolution... from one of my laptops only.

    2. Anybody else feel like johnny decimal would require way too much... idk, commitment? I guess now I have the bash skills to rearrange things if necessary.

      I had seen and forgotten about [[johnny decimal]], thank you!

      My [[meditation practice]] includes a counting/number mapping/composition aspect, I've been meaning to write about that in more detail for quite some time. I feel it's resulting in something similar to a [[mind palace]] -- perhaps :)

    3. What is the [[Huffman encoding]] of your life

      Very nice :)

      Are you familiar with [[intelligence is compression]], the [[hutter prize]]?

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hutter_Prize

    4. Why have these been open for weeks? What does it say that I couldn't get rid of them?

      In my case I often feels it means that I want a version of my future self to run into them and find them inspiring, or be reminded of an intent

    5. I'm (re)building my entire [[digital gardening]] and [[personal knowledge management]] workflow. This means that I'll be inactive for a while here on [[Anagora]]. See you all (hopefully) soon!

      Have fun, Jayu! Hope to see you back soon though, we'll miss you! :)

    6. → node [[2022-02-18_21-57-51_screenshot]]

      This is a side effect of the recent changes to be more inclusive with journal entries, and I think it's paying off :)

      I think if we drop screenshots in our gardens they might appear here as a sort of stream? Need to try it but it seems likely.

    7. Lock-in does remain at a protocol level, but that seems less bad. [[Protocol cooperativism]]?

      Exactly! This is why I believe [[agora protocol]] is important.

    8. Great [[Flancia Meet]] today. I was tired after little sleep so almost didn't go, but really glad I did.

      So glad you did! We could do it on Saturday or Sunday evenings some weekends? Also feel free to skip for rest always, rest is very important :)

      I woke up less than 30' before starting myself :)

    9. My shoulder pain is getting really bad. Might be time to ditch my old keyboard and get one of these fancy ergo split keyboards. ErgoDox EZ is crazy expensive but looks repairable/durable and if it lasts nearly 20 years like my current one, I can justify it…

      Hope it passes in any case!

      That keyboard looks amazing btw.

    10. (is there a word that's less disgustingly enlightenment-mentality than "Renaissance <man/woman/person>" and less pretentious sounding than "polymath"?)

      If so I want to learn it!

    11. garden reader]].

      Would love to read a description of this :)

    12. collapsed:: false

      Same here, needs fixing.

    13. OW unpack collapsed:: false --[2022-02-11 Fri 18:05:10] => 04:51:33 NOW laundry collapsed:: false --[2022-02-11 Fri 18:04:57] => 04:51:41 NOW upload photos collapsed:: false DONE take a nap collapsed:: false --[2022-02-11 Fri 16:57:51] => 03:44:25 LATER unigraph review collapsed:: false --[2022-02-11 Fri 19:46:36] => 00:00:05

      This looks really bad, will try to fix :)

    14. but if over a particular period I was listening to things that I really could be getting there, I'd like to be reminded of that.

      I think there's potential for tools that suggest alternatives just-in-time; this is a great example. Another would be shopping -- an extension that lets you know when an item you're seeing on, say, Amazon is available elsewhere (at a known price).

    15. I've had a hell of a week. Thankfully, now I may have some time for this digital garden.

      Sorry to hear about the rough week - glad to hear it may have passed.

    1. My shoulder pain is getting really bad. Might be time to ditch my old keyboard and get one of these fancy ergo split keyboards. ErgoDox EZ is crazy expensive but looks repairable/durable and if it lasts nearly 20 years like my current one, I can justify it&#x2026;

      I have this if you have any Qs!

    1. What markup do I use to link to a “global” node? A particular user’s node?

      For the global node, [[node]].

      For the user subnode, [[@user/subnode]]. We could support also [[subnode/@user]] easily, and any other conventions you think could be useful :)

    2. This is clearly a collaborative doc that should probably be an EtherPad linked to the Agora FAQ page

      We now have one of these in every page :) We call it a [[stoa]].

    3. Anything whose source is Markdown pages in Git can be imported.

      We now support also org (through a Markdown) and soon [[mycorrhiza]] and other wiki formats.

    4. Footnotes are not (currently) supported. See my [[Goggles]] node in the agora for footnote examples.

      This is now supported :)

    5. How do Agora folks tend to save these in their personal notes systems?

      If I can copy it, I copy it. If I can't (physical document, scanned PDFs without OCR), I write the beginning and the end of a quote, and then I insert an ellipsis in the middle.

      This is a quote that [...] no sense at all.

      I use Zotero (and Logseq's integration with it) to refer the quotes back to their sources.

    6. well just do what you want, it's technically supported

      Haha, spot on :)

    7. to whom is something addressed?

      Although I'm not bothered by a 'flexible self' or interlocutor, I think perhaps adopting an epistolary convention (where one makes clear who the default reader is) could add

    8. is it awkward?

      Nah, I think it's great!

    9. How do Agora folks tend to save these in their personal notes systems? How do Agora folks tend to share them? How do Agora folks like reading others' quotes?

      I currently don't have this solved -- I use either a paper notebook (how quaint?) or kindle highlights (which I like, despite amazon's efforts). I think we could define a format for quotes with structured attribution? What's the best existing one? Interested in what [[neil]] does, and in what [[agora discuss]] thinks.

      (If we define a format, we could relatively easily write converters from e.g. ereader highlight/note dumps to something the Agora groks.)

    10. I automatically pull my [[hypothesis]] [[annotations]] into my personal wiki. I can then very easily shove them into the agora. Is that... bad? Should those be shared in that way? Is there different hypothesis integration planned?

      There is code, currently disabled, that renders all hypothesis annotations for a node as subnodes in the node proper -- it looks similar to what we have in /latest (which of course needs improvement). I could enable it so we can give it a try if you're interested.

      About how to share these otherwise: I think the Agora could pull hypothesis annotations as a service (so people without this set up themselves can benefit); the fact that public annotations are social by default seems to match the Agora's spirit, so it doesn't feel like encroachment. Ideally it should be optional, though -- we could use the same path we are working on for social media, where people get a repo with their data out of it? Wdyt?

    1. The [[Battle of Seattle]] was the start of a global civil society.

      Our parents had a policy of Bringing The Kids along to marches and rallies and stuff and this was one not to miss, even hours' drive away. There is a very cute picture of my brother and I in ponchos with signs. I think I might be about as young as it was possible to be and still remember the thing...

    1. The lifeblood of the vanguard stack is not its tools but the self-governance surrounding them. Communities, families, and movements can assemble and adjust their stacks over time, wherever possible seeking to make their technological lives ever more vanguardist.

      Interesting. A good way to mix vanguardist and horizontalist political organization metaphors.

    1. When Fungus Grew to the Size of Trees - YouTube

      I stumbled upon the same video a few weeks ago.

      Sometimes I actually like Youtube's algorithm.

    1. thinking a bit about this as well. should I have curation routines for my notes? can I gamify it somehow?

      Curating my notes to feed my pets on Habitica.

    1. Fixing my sites URLs

      Do you have an example/a list of current URLs vs 'fixed' URLs?

      I wonder if in general it could be useful to have an explicit mapping between many queries (each potentially a URL) and files in a repo, within the repo proper. Like an extension of a generated index.

    1. Fuck Spotify, join [[Resonate]].

      Intriguing! :D

    1. led by [[neil]].

      would prefer "currently stewarded by" :)

    1. The Galaksija's are networked together in to the Galaksija Brain. The city is [[participatory]] and [[municipalist]], and city-wide decisions are made by [[Ask]]ing the citizens through the Galaksija Brain.

      The fact that galaksija is "galaxy" makes this even cooler.

    1. rhizomyx]] https://twitter.com/rhizomyx/status/1490789320822767626 /

      But scientists who study the process of learning have found something quite different: the more factual knowledge people have about a topic, the better they can think about it critically and analytically. A groundbreaking study published in 1946 showed that the reason expert chess players choose better moves than weaker players is not that they’re better at analytical thinking in general. Rather, they can draw on their vast knowledge of typical chess positions—which they’ve acquired through memorization. Similarly, a study published in 1988 demonstrated that supposedly “poor” readers outperform “good” readers in comprehending a passage when the “poor” readers have greater knowledge of the topic.

      https://www.forbes.com/sites/nataliewexler/2019/04/29/why-memorizing-stuff-can-be-good-for-you/

    1. Tempted to make a [[YunoHost]] package for [[Agora]].

      !! You know how to make YunoHost packages? That's such a cool skill! (I ran YunoHost at the beginning of my hosting days until I got frustrated being behind on releases, but I still think it's cool / magic)

    1. "good maps are better than naked-senses sensing the territory"

      Risks arise when they are not necessarily better, but we favor them because they're more legible

  16. Jan 2022
    1. It would be good for other [[Agora]] instances to come online, to be able to quickly get a peek at multiple different groups' subjective view. I wonder if one may in some sense see it as similar to [[liquid democracy]]. On any topic, I could choose who I am most interested to see definitions from. I 'delegate' the definition to them, if I've not had chance to do my own yet. I would probably start in my local instance of Agora. Then perhaps my instance federates with others. At the end of it all, if noone has defined it yet, see what Wikipedia says. also on matrix here

      💯🥳

  17. anagora.org anagora.org
    1. productive

      Should this perhaps be "provisioning knowledge" in FFA terms? At least so far I've gotten that production -> provisioning terminology mapping from it

    2. I've been unwell the last 3 days, and haven't done much of interest during this time. Starting to be on the mend now though.

      Stay strong my friend!

    3. Tomorrow the first concert since [[covid]]. I wonder if it'll feel strange to be there.

      Exciting! Which concert was that, if you want to share?

      We'll take an airplane for the first time since Covid next week, if everything goes well.

    4. Thinking about some conversation from the [[agora discuss]] channel. What is the value of automatic [[licensing]] for text? I think there is a nice spirit in the idea of imbuing everything you do with sharing, as [[neil]] noted. That isn't without value. But I want someone to come and ask me if they want to do something with my words. I want that connection, I think. [[m15o]] emailed me when they started nightfall city to see if my feed could be added and it was great.

      Interesting -- could you define [[automatic licensing]]? It seems like what you describe could be framed as a license where your terms are 'please ask before using'?

    5. "We have good reason to doubt the cogency of what has been called Marx’s '[[utopophobia]]'". i.e. we actually should be creating [[Recipes for the cookshops of the future]].

      This is super interesting -- in particular as Engels called himself a utopian socialist?

    6. This was less interesting than I thought it would be. Oh well.

      do you mean the concept proper, or the instance of node club?

      thank you for the heads up, just noded something there :)

    7. Decentralized identifier document]]

      I guess we should add [[dids]] to the Agora?

    8. I wish I could forcibly start animal crossing music playing on people's computers while they're talking to me. maybe [[mozilla hubs]] really should be the office of the future...

      I didn't know about [[mozilla hubs]], thank you!

    9. I've finished [[Shōjo Kakumei Utena]] today.

      How was this for revolutionary content? :) It sounds great!

    10. [[bullshido | bullshit

      Aside, but I need to implement support for this syntax. It shouldn't be hard, I'll try to do it [[tonight]].

    11. :LOGBOOK: CLOCK: [2022-01-25 Tue 21:08:03]--[2022-01-25 Tue 21:08:04] => 00:00:01 :END:

      What is this syntax?

    12. I will probably try to take [[outliner mode]] notes in [[logseq]] and write [[text mode]] in [[foam]] or even [[vim]] (assuming I'd be mostly adding to already existent pages seeded with [[agora protocol]]).

      I use a combination of all the above

    13. Also writing this from the future ;) I realize that I haven't added any code to prevent users from writing future journals; but then again, why would I?

      In fact, this is a really neat and natural way to add future reminders to oneself/to others.

    14. I missed [[flancia meet]] this morning. I was too tired and was sleeping lol. At least I had some good sleep. I suffer from pretty bad [[insomnia]] and I'll go days without sleeping. It looks like [[esperanto]] came up which is an interesting throwback. I used to study esperanto back in the day with friends and I'm somewhat fluent.

      Sleeping is great :) We need it! We should set a second slot for people in Pacific time? Perhaps alternating?

    15. There was a lot of nuance from the chat yesterday, but I think the conclusion was along the lines of: sometimes it's useful to have one-directional links, and this is what tags are. You can do that with wikilinks fine, but having a specific syntax for them enables filtering them out of other views (e.g. graph views).

      go, #push, #pull are now supported -- and #foo now links to [[foo]] by default :)

      no extra logic although there was also discussion about using hashtags for expressing personal positions (vs positions defaulting to assertions about the [[commons]]?)

    16. Season 2 of [[node club]] has begun! This week I took a little look at [[Agroecology]]. Some notes from [[Jayu]] on it helped me to form an initial gut feeling that [[I like agroecology]].

      This is amazing, thank you so much!

      I'll try to think of something for the upcoming week, but first I'll try to highlight/annotate your writings.

    17. I'm thinking of adding [[youtube]], [[spotify]], [[youtube music]] search links to the Agora.

      I think the commercial/exploitative nature of these platforms goes a bit against the ethos of building a knowledge commons.

      If the idea is music search, maybe [[musicbrainz]] and [[bandcamp]] are alternatives?

    18. We've been having great conversations at [[agora discuss]] lately.

      I agree, it's been great! I'll try to get a [[matrix bot]] running soon to complement and interlink all that activity.

    19. I've finished [[read]]ing [[Clarice Lispector]]'s [[Uma aprendizagem ou o livro dos prazeres]].

      This reminds me that I only learnt 1-2w ago that Clarice Lispector wrote in Portuguese -- my partner told me. I've never read anything by her, but I was surprised about how little I know about her. I intend to correct this -- what's a good place to start, if you have one off the top of your head?

    20. Mikhail Bakhtin]]'s [[polyphony]] and [[dialogism]]

      now that's a name I haven't read in a long time :)

      ❤️

    21. Below is a draft of the [[thought process]] that led me to decide adopting the practice of [[inserting wikilinks into quotes]].

      Very interesting, thank you! I enjoyed the format of exposition as well.

      I am biased though as I've been doing this so I'd naturally tend to want to justify it :) I somehow didn't realize it had these ramifications.

    22. So I was thinking about the brief conversation we'd had about [[effective altruism]], and I started writing, and I wrote a lot, so my preamble is that I mean here to put words to a seed of a heuristic I'm working with, not just criticize. But I don't really have a clean phrase for the topic... so I'm tossing this in my daily note, and maybe it'll make sense to move later?

      Thank you so much, this is awesome [[maya]]!

    23. I've finally visited [[Maggie Appleton]]'s [[digital garden]] again after a long time. The "[[Neologism]]" [[budding note]] caught my attention. Some of the [[neologism]]s she has collected there are really funny.

      I really need to read more of her, thank you!

    24. The Pattern Language of Project XanaduLink to Maggie's GithubLink to Maggie's LinkedInLink to Maggie's DribbbleLink to Maggie's Twitter (Created using [[markdown-link-expander]])

      This doesn't seem to have worked very well? :)

    25. I continue to want a lefty equivalent to the work of [[robert putnam]], looking at his new book. building little communities that aren't toxic seems so, so important but I don't trust the man

      I have a book I've been meaning to read :) [[building successful online communities]]. This reminded me of it and its position on my reading queue.

    26. what do people do instead of leggings that's not [[polyester]]?

      I want to say [[silk]] but I just made that up :)

    27. hope I have time to paint this evening.

      Would love to see your artwork, will look in your site!

    28. today is a day for best effort and gentle improvement. writing a self-review for work always makes me want to unalive myself (even when I think I'm doing well???) so we're not being real ambitious outside of getting that done (well, besides all the normal work nonsense).

      Same here :) I should really start writing perf before end of the month... I procrastinate a lot on it usually, even when I know it's silly.

    29. I think it sounds kinda [[cute]] and slightly [[quirky]]. At least, that's the [[tone]] I wanted to achieve. At the very least that's how I want myself to be: kinda cute and slightly quirky.

      I like it, thank you for writing it!

      I'll fix the pulls :)

    30. Gordon Brander]]

      want to read more from him/learn more about him

    31. On the flip side, too much variety leads to a [[cacophony of voices]].

      That seems like a failure mode but I wonder if it's strictly due to variety -- you can have variety that adds up to [[harmony]] or [[melody]]?

    32. Maya]] has an article related to [[Oblique Strategies]] and [[tarot for thought]] - introducing randomness into chaos: culture, oblique strategies, and tarot for… (shared by Maya in hypothesis annotation to my journal from yesterday, thanks Maya!)

      Very nice!

      I don't know much about [[tarot]] but I'm interested in learning. I guess it could work in the same way as the [[i ching]], as an engine for creativity?

    33. Elza Soares]], one of the biggest names of [[Brazilian music]], has suffered a [[death by natural causes]] today at [[home]].

      thank you so much for the pointer! I didn't know her.

      do you know [[cartola]]? I love him

    34. I like these random prompts for thinking about stuff. [[Tarot for thought]].
    1. Spotify is going to ruin podcasting

      They are soooo enclosing, totally.

      I listen to [[flow]] sometimes and they are quite intense with their requirements on where you can listen to it -- app only, you can't on the browser!

    1. Hi, I'm Matthew Thomas. I am an Economics PhD candidate. Keyoxide and my website contain contact information.

      Thank you so much for being a part of the [[agora]]!

      Please consider joining [[agora discuss]] and/or [[agora development]] if interested.

    1. but also because it predates the influence of [[Crowley]] and I just can't stand his shit.

      Haha :D

      A curious character for sure.

      A bit off-topic perhaps, but have you read [[foucault's pendulum]]? Do you like Eco?

    1. 📚 node [[decentralized identifier document]]

      I guess we should add DIDs to the Agora?

    1. Trust]] shares an inverse relationship with [[communication]].

      [[Law]] and [[economy]] are modes of [[communication]].

    2. Trust]] synthesizes and [[compresses]]. The more [[complexity]] you deal with, the more you must trust.

      [[Trust]] is, among many things, a form of [[knowledge management]].

    3. Law]] is often used in place of trust. Outside of simple legal systems, use of the law usually signifies a lack of trust.

      Or rather: "Trust in the law replaces trust in a person".

    1. t's the belief that something will happen, that the world will work in a certain way, without any real evidence or rational arguments as to why it will do that. So we want less of that, and we want more truth—which what I really mean is a greater reason to believe that our expectations will be met.

      A very mechanistic way of looking at things. Anything too human to be contained within rational arguments should be eliminated! The influence of community with its non-evidence-based norms -- it should be decreased!

      I want a world with more trust, but small scale, low stakes -- I trust my boyfriend to admin the server in the closet that runs my VMs, and I want my friends to trust that I'll admin our Mastodon instance in the way that works for our group. I don't want to have to trust big tech (or food or pharmaceutical) companies. There's probably better language for this, you probably know it better than me

    2. I think trust in itself is actually just a bad thing all around.

      I feel like trust is really just an assumption and assumptions should be minimized regardless of context.

    1. I wish I could forcibly start animal crossing music playing on people's computers while they're talking to me. maybe [[mozilla hubs]] really should be the office of the future...

      I'm on board for this future

    2. now using [[foam]] in [[paramita]], [[logseq]] in [[nostromo]]. I intend to keep it that way for a while I think? worked quite a bit, but got some stuff done -- happy about it learnt about [[gnu stow]] for managing [[dotfiles]]. [[agora]] I need to get back to some threads over social media:

      these are some good links to check out, thanks

    3. logseq]] sometimes 'snaps out' of my settings and goes back to writing pages in pages/ and journals in the IMHO weird format yyyy_MM_dd and so on

      I would submit a bug

    4. [[why don't we have both|por qué no los dos]] :)

      I don't think it's possible to have both because the agora has to pick a display version and a link version if these are opposite one is always going to be wrong.

    1. "Discord but open source

      this is what I tell people

    2. Matrix is a federating database, kind of?

      it's a DAG which is essentially a database

    1. Pluriverse names an understanding of the world in which countless groups of people create and re-create their own distinctive cultural realities, each of which constitutes a world.

      At one point in time I started entering spaces into annotations to "highlight" them, now I regret not putting annotations in when I'm reviewing.

    1. turns out [[wikilinks]] are [[fat links]]

      and things built via [[wikilink]]s (such as [[wiki]]s themselves) are always [[hypergraph]]s

    1. but is also breaking backwards compatibility

      I feel like this is fine. each language has their own parser. I guess it might be a problem when you write the wrong syntax due to muscle memory

    1. You can learn more about this [[garden]] through its [[index]] [[element]]; and more about me through the "[[Jayu]]" [[element]]. For [[Agora]] [[user]]s' convenience, I've [[pull]]ed both below, and you'll be able to see them somewhere on the "[[README]]" [[node]].

      interesting -- apologies, this doesn't work currently (pulls don't work in special pages like user pages currently), but will fix this!

    1. And as with ActivityPub, where it's kind of absent, I'd want for there to be a 'group' concept that isn't based on infrastructure, just on interest groups.

      how do you think we could track this in the Agora?

      I've been thinking of [[troupes]] or [[parties]] as a term for directed groups

    2. Increasingly convinced that the distributed/federated digital garden approach is the way to go for knowledge commoning. I say this because I've been doing it for a while and it is working well in practice.

      💌

    1. Maya]] has an article related to [[Oblique Strategies]] and [[tarot for thought]] - introducing randomness into chaos: culture, oblique strategies, and tarot for… (shared by Maya in hypothesis annotation to my journal from yesterday, thanks Maya!)

      Awesome, thank you for pointing!

      I am so happy about [[hypothesis]] existing. /latest shows hypothesis from all over the Agora; I can add annotations for each node inline, I have the code for it I think but commented out, would you be interested?

    1. Why do we need virtual assistants? How about we just work together and collaborate on things with other humans? Maybe a virtual assistant does the drudge that you wouldn't want to ask another person to do.

      A [[virtual assistant]] is an [[interface]] "[[flavor]]". Some people prefer GUIs. Some people prefer machine-like [[dialogue]] {[[shell]s, [[prompt]]s, [[terminal]]s, [[CLI]]}. And some people prefer human-like [[dialogue]].

    1. uncertainty

      We are not certain of the [[effect]s of our actions; we are also not certain of both our [[desire]]s and the [[desire]]s of others. [[Uncertainty]] appears twice: at the level of [[purpose]], and at the level of [[consequence]].

    2. [chesterton's fence](#chesterton's fence)
    1. Sequential Wiki Not a formal term, but I use it often. A sequential wiki is like a wiki page, but people contribute blocks of [[content]] instead of arbitrary fragments; and they maintain clear ownership and control over their blocks.

      This is an excellent concept but I'm not sold on the name, simply because part of what's so powerful about this kind of thing is that the possibilities for sequencing are wide open. Like with the experimental upranking in settings -- maybe what I want to see first are my social contacts' blocks, people I "follow". Or maybe I want to pull in a ranking service that has experts vet medical info and be able to uprank based on that (not sure if that could be done client-side?). Or maybe I want to most of the time see something like one of the above, but sometimes surf the recent content just for fun. You know? "Sequential" makes me think the order is important, I guess, but that might be overly programmer-brained, and probably I'm coming at this with different metaphors than you had in mind. Curious to hear your thoughts

    1. codexeditor]] https://twitter.com/codexeditor/status/1482906226292039681

      There's a difference between linking [[something]] because the tool needs you to for search ...

      ... and linking something because it is 𝘢𝘤𝘵𝘶𝘢𝘭𝘭𝘺 𝘴𝘪𝘨𝘯𝘪𝘧𝘪𝘤𝘢𝘯𝘵.

      I dunno, I think a lot of the time it's still helpful to be made to think through the associations. Whether it be linking or cardinal directions, habitually attending to something has powerful effects.

    1. [[Is]] it [[in an [[endearing]] way]]?

      I, for one, was successfully endeared.

  18. Dec 2021
    1. Knowledge commons is a misnomer bcos there is no such thing as knowledge. (!!)

      Unsure about this :) need to read the context.

    1. Wikilinks everywhere is a chrome extension that brings

      chrome extension

    2. node [[wikilinks everywhere]]

  19. Nov 2021
    1. I want a [[community]], not an [[audience]]. Audience is stuff like reach, personality/celebrity, spectacle, anxiety, alienation, competition. Community is more like voice, discussion, comradery.

      I love this sentiment.

      It's an analogy that reminds me of a quote by Sir Arthur Stanley Eddington:

      Suppose that we were asked to arrange the following in two categories– distance, mass, electric force, entropy, beauty, melody. I think there are the strongest grounds for placing entropy alongside beauty and melody and not with the first three.

  20. Oct 2021
    1. I do like the phrase 'digital garden' but I still don't feel comfortable enough to not put it in quotes.

      Interesting! I sometimes wonder if I should just use 'personal wiki' instead. What do you use?

    2. Follow people wherever they are (including the big silos). This is with a [[social reader]]. Write locally, in my [[personal wiki]], first. This is with [[org-roam]]. Publish on my own site, my '[[digital garden]]'. I for sure own the data this way. This is via [[Micropub]] (stream), and [[org-publish]] (garden). Syndicate things elsewhere, wherever the community best fits for my post. But don't feed the big tech beasts. This is via [[Webmentions]], [[brid.gy]]. Interact with people wherever they are, but still via my own site if possible. Some combo of [[social reader]], [[Micropub]], [[brid.gy]]. At present, a combo of [[org-mode]], [[IndieWeb]], [[Fediverse]], [[Agora]] make this possible for me.

      Beautiful!

    1. Without a strategy that stems from common political agreement, revolutionary organizations are bound to be an affair of reactivism against the continual manifestations of oppression and injustice and a cycle of fruitless actions to be repeated over and over

      I don't disagree with the assertion this has been the case, but it sounds like a fixable thing to me. Then again, especifismo might be one way to fix it.

    2. Active involvement in and building of autonomous and popular social movements, which is described as the process of “social insertion.”

      Nice!

    1. In response to [[expectations]], we often attempt to incorporate something (passion in Buddhism), reject something (aggression in Buddhism), or ignore it all.

      Nice, thank you!

    2. Art]] is creating anything you can [[play]] with that is wealthy.

      I didn't get this, could you explain?

    1. When envious, comparing, and jealous, let your actions be fulfilled.

      I didn't get this, could you explain? If you see this :)

    1. I find it a bit silly that [[tweets]] in [[mastodon]] are called [[toots

      Posts in Mastodon are almost certainly called toots for endearment/whimsy. Birds tweet, but elephants toot.

  21. Sep 2021
    1. I've been feeling so-so the past two days; tired and a bit down.

      Sorry to hear - I hope it passes soon for you.

  22. Aug 2021
    1. American poets seldom portray the happy marriage of technology and the natural world. Thus the optimism of the following poem is somewhat unique

      That's interesting. Perhaps the technologists usually portray technology as beneficial, and the poets critique it?

    2. women aren't very active in many of these, perhaps I'm biased by the phallocentric opener but Brautigan feels a bit objectifying

      It's good to get this context on Brautigan - useful to know the person behind the poem.

    3. "I sit here / on the perfect end / of a star / watching light / pour itself toward me"

      This does sound good.

    4. [[richard brautigan]]

      Brautigan seems a bit of an odd one...

    5. a [[poetry collection]]

      Ah interesting, I didn't realise it was a collection.

    6. Though the poem kind of has it backwards - a kind of [[accelerationism]] of the technology, rather than maybe a [[degrowth]] to natural boundaries.

      Interesting! [[degrowth]] sounds sensible to me, and cautious, but I'm not sure it feels "proven" -- I know at least some people make a reasonable case for sustainability at the cost of technological progress to sometimes not be a good idea, e.g. David Deutsch seems to believe that advancing our knowledge is on the whole, and over longer periods of time, a safer bet than "trying to live within our means".

      I'd probably hedge and bet on both, if that makes sense.

    7. creepy

      Indeed - Brautigan seems to be willing to toy with "creepy", makes one explicit reference to creepyness in this collection (see my subnode).

  23. Jul 2021
    1. Candidates for still-live infohazards include the collected essays of Nick Land.

      wow, I had heard of him but was unaware of the extent of his work-and-downturn: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Land

    1. hey, it's been a while. it's like, i forgot about this almost but it was in the back of my mind. today i thought, "maybe i should pick this back up." so, here i am. hopefully i can get back on track for daily entries.

      I don't know if you'll see this, but: welcome back! :)

      Yours was the single journal entry in the Agora on July 1st actually. It was great reading you.

    1. Wikilinks are great because they allow for very easy linking: you just [[link it as you go along]], then the link either works (because someone wrote that node/article/resource already) or you can click through and backfill it. I call this procedure link-driven writing. Whenever there is more than one [[node]] with a given wikilink in an Agora (typical use case: notes kept on a certain topic by different users), the Agora will surface all of them when resolving the wikilink in question.

      What if browsers could allow the user to click and choose the resolving resource for a wikilink in much the way that they allow one to choose their search provider? Then one might have the option to choose between the [[agora]] or their own personal wiki for the search?

    1. was a fan of [[cannabis]] it seems

      hell yeah

  24. Jun 2021
    1. maybe sticking to a todo list despire a lack of motivation is very helpful for keeping my priorities straight, maybe it isn't. enthusiasm is hard to measure, track, and maintain, especially when working on projects with long time scales. it's often hard for me to see what the right decision, level of dedication or measure of effort is to invest into a task, so i will go all or nothing. i think most of this is a result of being overstimulated - overexposed to loads of information i can't absorb at my own pace, because social networks set the pace instead. i should write more about how unhealthy social networks are but i feel like i've leveraged instagram very well - though what real connections has it lead to? regardless, i'll keep up my posting regimen to ensure that i'm holding myself accountable in terms of my creative goals - three posts a week no matter what.

      I can relate to this :)

      In general my todo list is always growing as I keep adding items to it faster than I cross items off the list. I've grown sort of OK with it; I try to be mindful of completion bias and focus more often on things I have done.

      @jakeisnt

    1. backlinks can be overwhelming: how to express which subset of them you are interested in.

      This is why I stopped using [[wikilinks]] for [[agora actions]] because my backlinks were oftentimes irrelevant

    1. Things I'm currently thinking about. (like a /now page, but for [[notion]]s… sorry).

      now page for notions

    2. nowtions

      what a good term

      Thanks for sharing.

      Plagiarism is the most sincere form of flattery.

    1. Neil's Digital Garden [[Hello]] Welcome! You have stumbled upon my [[hyper commonplace garden wiki]] AKA [[digital garden]]. It is someplace between a notebook and a blog and a wiki.

      someplace between a notebook and a blog and a wiki

  25. May 2021
    1. tag format e.g. #go #push

      IMHO #go == [[go]]. In that sense we should probably support all conventions that clearly demonstrate an [[intent]] to trigger an action, I'm fine adding support for these.