ment has catalyzed and I totally take her point. But I think one way to counter the backlash to the trust-based concept — and there definitely is one based on the discussions I have with funders, anyway — is to actually embrace the nuance just a bit more. Those advocating for funders to change will be more effective, in my view, if they are perhaps just a bit less dogmatic than what I sometimes read and hear — and a bit more inviting of an ongoing conversation and reasoned debate about effective (or whatever words we want to use) philanthropy. Because if ever there wa