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  1. Mar 2019
    1. This name HE WHO IS is the name of God more properly than this name "God," as regards its source, namely, existence; and as regards the mode of signification and co-signification, as said above.

      I think this is a little silly-- if someone is talking about God and saying that name, I'd think using God instead of HE WHO IS would be just fine and imply the same things

    2. just in the same way as this name "sun" would be transferable according to the opinion of those who say there are many suns.

      oh?

    3. For instance this name "lion"

      very glad he included this example

    4. To see this we must learn that some have said that relation is not a reality, but only an idea

      reminds me of courtly love haha

    5. On the contrary,

      this is random but I haven't been paying much attention to the "on the contrary"... and I really don't see how they impact his argument. After all, he is just referring to someone else over and over again... is aquinas just trying to say that he wasn't the first one who was thinking these ideas

    6. And since that expressed by the name is the definition

      i thought earlier that the name God wasn't the definition... now im confused lol

    7. nothing could be known or demonstrated about God at all

      but isn't it proportional based on the creature? so would that mean that since each person has a unique knowledge of god, then all the names would be equivocal

    8. o the perfections flowing from God to creatures, which perfections preexist in God unitedly and simply, whereas in creatures they are received and divided and multiplied.

      does this mean humans or are creatures all animals?

    9. our knowledge of God is derived from the perfections which flow from him to creatures,

      the effects- like he discussed in ch 3

    10. is above all that we understand about God and signify in word.

      i agree with this but i don't understand how it really answers obj. 1... then again i don't really get what objection 1 was saying

    11. In this way therefore he can be named by us from creatures, yet not so that the name that signifies him expresses the divine essence in itself.

      his answer: the name is used as a reference and does not mean there is a def.

    12. For everything is named by us according to our knowledge of it

      familiar premise

    1. Therefore existence must be compared to essence, if the latter is a distinct reality, as actuality to potentiality. Therefore, since in God there is no potentiality, as shown above (Article 1), it follows that in him essence does not differ from existence. Therefore his essence is his existence.

      this is a little confusing

    2. holy scripture puts before us spiritual and divine things under the comparison of corporeal things.

      this is an important reply!

    3. can be proved in five ways.

      i feel like most of these led to the same conclusion-- God is the cause of everything. that being said, he probably would have listed >5 ways here

    4. When an effect is better known to us than its cause, from the effect we proceed to the knowledge of the cause.

      makes sense; to explain the unexplainable we use God

    5. The very hiding of truth in figures is useful for the exercise of thoughtful minds and as a defense against the ridicule of the impious, according to the words “Give not that which is holy to dogs” (Matt. 7:6).

      very elitist

    6. But the knowledge proper to this science comes through revelation and not through natural reason. Therefore it has no concern to prove the principles of other sciences, but only to judge of them.

      so natural science/reason will never fully align withe the divine science... frustrating but I can't disagree

    7. whereas this derives its certitude from the light of divine knowledge, which cannot be misled:

      definitely disagree here

    8. color is the formal object of sight.

      "formal cause"?

    9. For every science proceeds from self-evident principles.

      where do these principles come from?-- I feel like these objections are so simple that they are almost easily proven wrong (in other words I'm sure there were more complex objections but these were easy to put towards the argument)

    10. it was necessary that humanity should be taught by a divine revelation

      since this is in the past tense its giving the idea that every truth about the divine has already been presented-so there is nothing more that God could do to show he exists - its all up to humanity at this point

    11. Objection 1: I

      right away i really like this organization

    1. Do not hope that, after this chapter, you will hear from me even a single word about this subject, be it as an explicit statement or in a flashlike allusion.

      What he has written is so straight forward that if you don't understand it, thats your problem-- this isn't helping his credibility

    2. fter Ezekiel, peace be on him, had set forth the description of the Chariot J-l. as given in the beginning of the book,
    3. For only the bodies adhered to one another, whereas their faces and their wings were separated, but only from above

      lets draw this on the board in class!! If someone details this in small group please show a diagram lol

    4. It is according to the shapes that tend to have a likeness to those of animals that people are nicknamed.

      wow they didn't hold back on the name calling in the medieval period

    1. For in the preceding verses there is no mention of their being tired in any way, so that even if they were tired, the term reposed would be quite extraneous to the story

      I spoke too soon... here is the support

    2. He said, He said-the term to rest [shebithah] is derivatively used with reference to the Sabbath as there was no creation on that day. It is accordingly said: And He rested on the seventh day.1 For refraining from speech is likewise called rest.

      interesting, but I can't find the support for this claim

    3. This name is not indicative of an attribute but of simple existence and nothing else.

      I found the whole build up and explanation of this really valid and reasonable-- i like it

    4. may He be exalted,

      I have to ask, how necessary is it to include this phrase every single time? Is it a personal belief on how God needs to be referred to, or does it have a connection to his arguments?

    5. or what names you may hear from them or may find in their stupid books,

      aggressive again! No one else seems to have gotten anything right according to m.

    6. he greatness of this name and the prohibition against pronouncing it are

      Not sure why this just popped into my head but this is reminding me of "supercalifragilisticexpialidocious" -- really interesting though and I like how he is showing the derivation of the name to support the necessary essence

    7. This is a very subtle speculation; understand it.

      agressive lol

    8. Now there is no multiplicity in the true reality of the existence of God, may He be exalted, so that one thing pertaining to Him might be understood while another remains unknown.

      So to affirm God and believe that he exists you must understand God as a whole-- you cant miss any of his attributes or your affirmation wouldn't be valid

    9. if you deny that they have a likeness to the attributes known to us, it follows that they do not belong to the same species as the latter.

      what if you don't deny this though?

  2. Feb 2019
    1. w that the three words to see [ra'oh], to look at [habbit], and to vision .l~ [~azoh] are applied to the sight of the eye and that all three of them are also used figuratively to denote the grasp of the intellect.

      it is interesting that he has to spend so much time on this.. we would hear phrases like this in relation to God and think "yeah obviously we aren't being literal"

    2. eriving from the verb

      deriving the meanings of words in this way builds validity

    3. With regard to what is of necessity, there is no good and evil at all, but only the false and the true.

      i wish this was elaborated a bit more

    4. latter's ultimate perfection,

      it is shameful to live in a way that is so far from the truth

    5. It was because of this something, I mean because of the divine intellect conjoined with man, that it is said of the latter that he is in the image of God and in His likeness, not that God, may He be exalted, is a body and possesses a shape.

      Sums up Ch 1 perfectly

    6. image

      so image doesn't have to refer to something visible

    7. keen-sighted observer looks at it with full attention,

      must look deeply to understand or you can get a false idea

    8. My speech in the present Treatise is directed, as I have mentioned, to one who has philosophized 2+ and has knowledge of the true sciences,25 but believes at the same time in the matters pertaining to the Law and is perplexed as to their meaning because of the uncertain terms and the parables.

      again makes it a point to note his audience-- this could be a tactic-- if someone who is reading this Treatise disagrees, maybe they don't fit this criteria

    9. This, in its turn, cannot come about except through divine science, and this divine science cannot become actual except after a study of natural science.

      kind of like when Avicenna said metaphysics comes after nature

    10. I mean to say that the subject matter will appear, flash, and then be hidden again,

      you must always be attentive or you could miss the truth when its most obvious to you

    11. degrees of the perfect vary

      degrees of the perfect : the perfect is the truth

    12. mean the legalistic study of the Law. For the purpose of this Treatise and of all those like it is the science of Law in its true sense.

      we should keep in mind that his intended audience is people who have mastered science and have thought well beyond that into religion

    1. Thebody is a dense substance; it does not (naturally) move upward.

      stupid gravity

    2. ence, whatever rational con-cepts that the intellect wishes to convey to the senses, it does so by mean

      Meno?

    3. nd he or she is aided by all theSupernals

      "all the supernaturals"

    4. It is provided as an advisor of human beings for the rational soul,which is (also) called the Holy Spirit[rub-iqudsi]and pure soul

      Holy Spirit = advisor for human beings

    5. ot fall into harm and destruction, for then it would not function.

      I guess this would mean that there can't be an irrational part of the soul?

    6. ationality

      would he say that there is an irrational part of the soul?

    7. brought each from a different worl

      does this imply that God lives in a world? By "bringing" each, did he create what he used to make the body and soul too?

    8. rational way

      @ Daniel B- this makes me think of the point you raised at the end of last class... if we try to explain these things in a rational way then why does faith exist-- is that what you had meant?

    1. Thus, the cause of [that one] is the possible existence of this [one], whereas the possible existence of this [one] is not caused by that [other]. As such, the two cannot be equivalent — I mean, that whose causality is essential and that which is essentially caused.

      does this mean the world exists in even numbers.. like everything has a pair? or can the possible existence of one thing be caused by the necessary existence of two things

    2. If [it occurs] through another, then [this] other is the cause.

      either it can turn into something else or just stop existing-- I understand how it can "exist through another" but not the "not" part

    3. Necessary Existen

      capitalized b/c it is God

    4. circular.

      saying that if you try to define something, you'll use a word whose definition includes the word you are defining- is that what he means?

    5. in the soul

      like emotions

    6. infinite regress or to circularity.

      right- makes sense

    7. impossible to know whatever is known through them

      this is what I mean!!

    8. rdered in ranks,

      hierarchy

    9. not a principle merely because all the questions depend on it for their demonstrative proofs,

      because this would lead to a regression

    10. For just as [the former] is a principle for the existence of these [latter sciences], knowledge of [the former] is a principle for validating the knowledge of these [latter sciences].

      I'm assuming this would be true the other way around as well

    11. from evil

      point: evil exists and someone can be evil and become good

    12. His existence

      so God is something that exists; I wonder if this will differ from God being the epitome of existence

    13. Moreover, you used to hear that there is here

      I'm finding his casual way of beginning this text really appealing

    1. chosen priests

      pretty sure this is the first time we've heard of priests

    2. your mental comprehension is laid to rest, to strain so far as you can towards a union with him whom neither existence nor mental comprehension can contain. For, by the unceasing and absolute renunciation of yourself and all things, you will cast all things aside in purity, and be released from all things, and will thus be led upwards to the ray of that divine darkness that surpasses all existence.

      sounds like meditation

    1. But in this I have fallen wretchedly short not only of the theologians, their hearers and their followers but even of my own peers. So if what I have said is right and if, somehow, I have correctly understood and explicated something of the names of God, the work must be ascribed to the Cause of all good things for having given me the words to speak and the power to use them well.

      I feel like he didn't show this attitude so strong until now-- almost like its a safety in case people come after him

    2. The name “One” means that God is uniquely all things through the transcendence of one unity and that he is the Cause of all without ever departing from that oneness. Nothing in the world lacks its share of the One. Just as every number participates in unity — for we refer to one couple, one dozen, one-half, one-third, one-tenth-so everything, and every part of everything, participates in the One. By being the One, it is all things. The One cause of all things is not one of the many things in the world but actually precedes oneness and multiplicity and indeed defines oneness and multiplicity. For multiplicity cannot exist without some participation in the One. That which is many in its parts is one in its entirety. T

      This is very clever-- if you think of it physically, it may get confusing, but conceptually it checks out with me

    3. me, the inferior of many good people,

      I wonder why he would include this

    4. you will find no part of the world without its share of smallness

      without "participating" in smallness!!!

    5. He is Power insofar as he exceeds all power.

      Why wouldn't he just come up with a new word to define this Power which is different than the definition we understand the word Power to have... maybe call it Dower... divine power?

    6. Before there are angels he has knowledge of angels

      How can he have knowledge of something before ti even exists? This is hard to understand

    7. transcends all reason, all intelligence, and all wisdom.

      Would this mean that a person cannot become wise/intelligent on their own, and they would have to be granted this through God

    8. To antiquity this looked to be contrary to nature,

      Thinking of the atomists, stoics, and epicureans

    9. participate

      This reminds me, like many of you have brought up, like the theory of the Forms and how the word "participate" was frequently used, but we never really saw it defined

    10. sun contains within itself as a unity the causes of all the things which participate in it.

      "sun" = "sum"

    11. Existence precedes the entities which participate in it

      So god encompasses an infinite amount of Preexistence, so he in turn, is existence

    12. knowledge far beyond perception and reason

      knowledge of "literally everything ever"

    13. non-existing things

      Isn't a non-existing thing nothing?

    14. Providence even makes good use of evil effects to turn these or others to good use individually and collectively.

      Sounds familiar

    15. Not even the devils are evil by nature, since if they were, then they would not owe their origin to the Good.

      So the devils were created by God... interesting

    16. then no existence comes from evil.

      I still wonder I fully accept this aspect of the argument- as we have seen it a few times. It is a question I battle with myself and will never know "can people be truly evil?" It sure is nice to think not, but do I really believe that? Not sure..

    17. “the motherland” by “the fatherland,”

      I actually find it interesting that these would be seen as interchangeable-- although both mothers and fathers are parenting roles, they are very different

    18. Even what is not still there exists transcendentally in the Beautiful and the Good.

      So nothing ever ceases to exist

    19. “sun” for it makes all things a “sum”

      nice word play but I think it is a stretch

    20. Light comes from the Good, and light is an image of this archetypal Good

      hence why we are afraid of the dark

    21. Life.

      the capitalization again haha

    22. Source.

      I like that this is capitalized

    23. We are told not to busy ourselves with what is beyond us, since they are beyond what we deserve and are unattainable.

      I feel like people say this today. Especially as the world overall is learning more about the physical world we live in, its like "Why question what is out there because no one will ever be able to prove it anyway".. but thats why its fun and intriguing... to ponder these questions, even though you know you'll never come up with a "right" answer. Its nice to be able to find such a strong belief in a concept that even though you very well could be totally wrong, you have something to believe in.

    24. not even by the leaders among the front ranks of the angels.

      does this literally mean the top angels?

    25. the Threefold Unity

      I remember Augustine tried to explain the Trinity briefly in what we read and it was the most confusing passage ever

    26. when the tide of unholiness is tossing them about

      I guess this would mean that if someone is "unholy" it isn't their fault but the fault of some force outside of themselves that they are lost in?