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  1. Apr 2026
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    Lacan, Jacques | Internet Encyclopedia of Philosophy
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    1. FastLostFaceMost 12 Apr 2026
      Symbolic identification is always idenification with a normatively circumscribed way of organising the social-intersubjective space within which the subject can take on its most lasting imaginary identifications: (For example, the hysterical-vulnerable female identifies at the symbolic level with the patriarchal way of structuring social relations between sexes, outside of which her imaginary identification would be meaningless).

      The female in this example symbolically identifies with the system, and not with a role inside of the system? That seems really weird.

      Maybe I just still don't understand symbol vs imaginary, maybe if I understood "the Symbolic" better than this would make more sense.

    2. FastLostFaceMost 12 Apr 2026
      d. The Law and Symbolic Identification

      I think something that bothers me about this section, is why does the law naturally follow from the Oedipal complex? It seems like a trope that I just don't understand. Like an alien culture would be saying: "Well yes of course, what else would you expect, that the desire for the mother is supplanted by the desire for the law?"

      Is it simply because the child understands that the law is what provides for them in the way that mother does? You realize that if you want to survive, you don't have to please mom you have to please the culture?

    3. FastLostFaceMost 12 Apr 2026
      If things go well, however, it will go away with “title deeds in its pocket” that guarantee that, when the time comes (and if it plays by the rules), it can at least have a satisficing substitute for its first lost love-object.

      ???

    4. FastLostFaceMost 12 Apr 2026
      this event is decisive both in the development of the individual, and in the aetiology of any possible subsequent mental illness

      I would really like to understand what this means exactly, and get some examples maybe.

    6. FastLostFaceMost 12 Apr 2026
      A hungry child may even refuse to eat food if it perceives that this food is offered less as a token of love than one of its parents’ dissatisfaction or impatience.

      This seems to go along with our dialectic defintion

    7. FastLostFaceMost 12 Apr 2026
      dialectics

      How are we using "dialectics" here? Is it in the sense that Vassar uses it? Are people creating conflict in order to draw more resources into their relationships with each other? That certainly happens sometimes.

      I act out in order to get my parent's attention. This is a manufactured conflict in order to draw more resources in.

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