People like that seem to me to bring such shame to the citythat any foreigner might well suppose that those among the Athen-ians who are superior in virtue—the ones they select from among them-bselves for political office and other positions of honor—are no better thanwomen
Its cool that Socrates stood up for himself and for looking for the truth but then were reminded that these people lived in such an antiquated time, that they believed that women were inherently stuck people
if what-is-not is, what-is will not be
this is so weirdly worded that I think he probably was making fun of the "Ealatic Metaphysics" thing.
Next, if weare seated one next to the other, and we [each] say “I am an initiate ofthe mysteries,” we will all say the same thing, but only I will betruthful, since in fact I am <the only> one <who is>. (5)
So is he saying that a statement will always be true if the person that is saying is telling the truth?
the person telling the truth is just telling the truth?
Plato was suspiciousof sophistic teaching and claims to knowledge, and was scandalized by the factthat the Sophists charged for their teaching and would take on any pupil whocould afford the price
Plato probably wouldn't like the idea of college and how you pay a bunch of money to be in these classes then
that something contains more void if it is lighter but also that it con-tains less solid
is that density? J.Hernandez
These prob-lems result from supposing that any body whatever of any size iseverywhere divisible
So, the problem comes from assuming that anything is "divisible"? So what wouldn't be "divisible"? J.Hernandez
magnitude?
What do they mean by "Magnitude"? J.Hernandez
For they say that what-isdiffers only in “rhythm,”“touching,” and “turning”—and of these“rhythm” is shape, “touching” is arrangement, and “turning” is posi-tion.
I thought rhythm was going to correspond to people, like a a heart beat. It seems more about someone form?? J.Hernandez
ll humans perish when the earth is carried down into the seaand becomes mud, and then there is another beginning of generation,and this change occurs in all the kosmoi [that is, in every such cycle].
It kind of reminds me of different geological eras of the Earth. Like the Ice Age and all
He says that these came about when all things werecovered with mud long ago and the impressions were dried in themud.
It sounds like a description of fossils
es from akousmata,“things heard.” The word math ̄e-matikoi comes from math ̄emata,“things studied” or “learned.
I thought that the Pythagoreans would always rather "learned" or "studied" everything they knew rather than just hearing some information and taking the persons word for it
others say that it brings cowardice in war
it seems that most of the these actions were made or avoided because he believed in a lot of superstitions?
Pythagoras and remembered all that had beensaid.
so Pyhtagoras believes that he was reincarnated from other things??
Presocratics”
Are the presocratics more focused/ interested in how the earth came to be? It doesn't seem like they are interested in the human aspects of philosophy.
The form of airis the following: when it is most even, it is invisible, but it is revealedby the cold and the hot and the wet, and by its motion
How can air be seen or revealed? Or does he mean it in a more figurative sense?
Because the Muses aredivine they are immortal; since they were present for the gathering of theships, they are appropriate as witnesses
So the muses are the literal embodiment of everything that involves the arts, sciences, and academia in general?
commitmentto the view that the natural world (the entire universe) can be explainedwithout needing to refer to anything beyond nature itself
So according to the presocrates, the whole world is and was created by the material only the material on earth...?
who regarded Socrates’ interests in ethics as aradical advance in Western thought
What did the presocratics discuss that,made them so different from Socrates?