There cannot exist slaves on this territory, servitude is therein forever abolished. All men are born, live and die free and French.
Interesting. I'm excited to see how this plays out. Everything seems nice on paper.
There cannot exist slaves on this territory, servitude is therein forever abolished. All men are born, live and die free and French.
Interesting. I'm excited to see how this plays out. Everything seems nice on paper.
But we cannot do without the concept of the sign, we cannot give up this metaphysical complicity without also giving up the critique we are directing against this complicity, without the risk of erasing difference [altogether] in the self-identity of a signified reducing into itself its signifier, or, what amounts to the same thing, simply expelling it outside itself.
Because if we got rid of it, we would lose our language?
are trapped in a sort of circle. This circle is unique. It describes the form of the relationship between the history of metaphysics and the destruction of the history of metaphysics.
We can only see truths, because of the way our language is?
his moment was that in which language invaded the universal problematic; that in which, in the absence of a center or origin, everything became discourse-provided we can agree on this word-that is to say, when everything became a system where the central signified, the original or transcendental signified, is never absolutely present outside a system of differences. The absence of the transcendental signified extends the domain and the interplay of signification ad infinitum.
Okay, so is he saying that there was a time where signified and signifiers were 'nothing' but then language changed.. and we lost that?
The center is not the center
Is he saying nothing is nothing? Like there is no truth, and if there was a truth it still couldn't be true?
. Thus it has always been thought that the center, which is by definition unique, constituted that very thing within a structure which governs the structure, while escaping structurality
Honestly, what did I just read. I've never been more lost.
much poetry should not be indulged.
I never thought he could offend me on such a personal level!
A plan of female education has never been a subject of systematic contemplation with me. It has occupied my attention so far only as the education of my own daughters occasionally required
"I don't care about other females, just my daughters" I don't know how I feel about this man.
In music they are more generally gifted than the whites with accurate ears for tune and time, and they have been found capable of imagining a small catch (* 2). Whether they will be equal to the composition of a more extensive run of melody, or of complicated harmony, is yet to be proved
A nice little backhanded compliment..
An animal whose body is at rest, and who does not reflect, must be disposed to sleep of course
I can't even handle this man.
experimentalist has discovered to be the principal regulator of animal heat,
Oh no, did he just compare African Americans to animals...
The first difference which strikes us is that of colour. Whether the black of the negro resides in the reticular membrane between the skin and scarf-skin, or in the scarf-skin itself; whether it proceeds from the colour of the blood, the colour of the bile, or from that of some other secretion, the difference is fixed in nature, and is as real as if its seat and cause were better known to us.
This is funny, coming from the man who fathered SEVERAL mixed raced children. I don't like how he says that because they are a different color their blood is different too.
while it is education which teaches us to (* 8) honor force more than finesse
is he arguing that Native Americans should have the right to an education?
truth will finally and powerfully prevail.
The truth always prevails, and will set you free.
Of all the systems of religion that ever were invented, there is none more derogatory to the Almighty, more unedifying to man, more repugnant to reason, and more contradictory in itself, than this thing called Christianity.
This just made me think of author and author function. Thomas Pain is the reason we need authors! haha! Like some people must have been really mad at him for this.
Jesus Christ wrote no account of himself, of his birth, parentage, or anything else. Not a line of what is called the New Testament is of his writing. The history of him is altogether the work of other people; and as to the account given of his resurrection and ascension, it was the necessary counterpart to the story of his birth. His historians, having brought him into the world in a supernatural manner, were obliged to take him out again in the same manner, or the first part of the story must have fallen to the ground..
All hearsay, supernatural hearsay. I really love this guy.
heathen mythology.
Paganism! A lot of our Holidays were pagan holidays that the Christian Church "stole" to get pagans to convert to Christianity! Also I'm pretty sure they stole the concept of the Trinity!
It is revelation to the first person only, and hearsay to every other, and, consequently, they are not obliged to believe it…
Is he pretty much saying that the bible and other religious texts are 'useless/untrue' ?
for my own part, I disbelieve them all
Loving this man.
as if the way to God was not open to every man alike.
This is amazing. Why do we have to create separate Gods? Why cant he be the same.
EVERY national church or religion has established itself by pretending some special mission from God, communicated to certain individuals.
My favorite person EVER, just became Thomas Pain.
thousands more will probably suffer the same fate.
Love this even more! Because its so true!
British barbarity
Love this! Britain once ruled the world, clearly a reference to the down fall of each countries it took over.
he trade of America goes to ruin, BECAUSE OF HER CONNECTION WITH ENGLAND
Its like guilty by association.
It is the true interest of America to steer clear of European contentions, which she never can do, while by her dependence on Britain, she is made the make-weight in the scale of British politics.
I feel like Pain is rolling around in his grave, because i feel we dont still have this ideal as Americans.
But admitting, that we were all of English descent, what does it amount to? Nothing. Britain, being now an open enemy, extinguishes every other name and title: And to say that reconciliation is our duty, is truly farcical. The first king of England, of the present line (William the Conqueror) was a Frenchman, and half the Peers of England are descendants from the same country; therefore, by the same method of reasoning, England ought to be governed by France.
Pains getting sassy!
. Europe, and not England, is the parent country of America. This new world hath been the asylum for the persecuted lovers of civil and religious liberty from EVERY PART of Europe.
Pretty much saying that Britain doesn't own America.
hat her motive was INTEREST not ATTACHMENT; that she did not protect us from OUR ENEMIES on OUR ACCOUNT, but from HER ENEMIES on HER OWN ACCOUNT, from those who had no quarrel with us on any OTHER ACCOUNT, and who will always be our enemies on the SAME ACCOUNT.
Pointing out the hidden agenda that England has.
that as America hath flourished under her former connection with Great Britain that the same connection is necessary towards her future happiness,
I love this! Just because you 'made' us does't mean we will crumble and die when your influence leaves.
agreeable dream, hath passed away and left us as we were,
Such a beautiful sentence
her influence.
England..
name of ancestors will be remembered by future generations with detestation.
Is he saying that they will remember the english men who settled the area..?
My soul acquiesced fully in the will of God
I literally have come to the conclusion that this man is under a delusion, and must be crazy. For me, his love for God rides the fine line of obsession. I think he's legit 'crazy'.
O sinner! consider the fearful danger you are in. ’Tis a great furnace of wrath, a wide and bottomless pit, full of the fire of wrath, that you are held over in the hand of that God whose wrath is provoked and incensed as much against you as against many of the damned in hell.
Okay I love this. I love this, because its supposed to be scary, and I bet it was scary to certain people back in the day.
The Scripture represents them as his goods,
I don't like this at all. This makes it seem like people are just mere possessions and can be thrown away.
I don't like this man, and the way he thinks.
righteousness
Funny the use of this word in this section.
There is nothing that keeps wicked men at any one moment out of hell, but the mere pleasure of God.
I don't agree with this. Honestly, in all honesty I HATE this guy. He's starting to get on my nerves.
My wickedness, as I am in myself, has long appeared to me perfectly ineffable, and swallowing up all thought and imagination; like an infinite deluge, or mountain over my head.
Clearly not a mentally sound person. To much stress and anxiety over "little" things.
so that I have often been forced to shut myself up.
He reminds me of a person who is not mentally sound..
and returned like a dog to his vomit, and went on in the ways of sin.
I like the comparison of this, to returning to ones sins.
I used to pray five times a day in secret
Not only does this seem to be a little excessive, but also why in secret?
remarkable awakening in my father’s congregation.
The awakening happened in a place of Godliness.
I had a variety of concerns and exercises about my soul from my childhood;
Right off the bat he is concerned about his soul. This is alarming to me, only because he says from his childhood. The last thing anyone should be worried about is the sins they may or may not have made during childhood.
What difference does it make who is speaking?
This right here. Does it even really matter, or are we just making it matter?
The text always contains a certain number of signs referring to the author.
Look out new critics!
evertheless, these aspects of an individual which we designate as making him an author are only a projection, in more or less psychologizing terms, of the operations we force texts to undergo, the connections we make, the traits we establish as pertinent, the continuities we recognize, or the exclusions we practice
Is he saying that we make the author bigger than they actually are, because we generalize/stereotype them?
But if we proved that Shakespeare did not write those sonnets which pass for his, that would constitute a significant change and affect the manner in which the author's name functions.
This is a valid point, something I think we all over look. We take what we hear and learn for granted and treat it like it was written in stone.
How can one define a work amid the millions of traces left by someone after his death?
This raises a good question. How many things have we called "works" that the author wouldn't have? or Why does it even matter?
criticism is not to bring out the work's relationships with the author
New Criticism popping up..?
dead man in the game of writing.
Is the author dead before the writing even happens?
First of all, we can say that today's writing has freed itself from the theme of expression.
Is he saying that nobody writes with the intent of expressing themselves and others?
Traditions are no longer passed down the generations. Instead, they are learned from celebrity chefs, the modern day oracles.
I have a very hard time with this statement, I would like to think that families still keep old traditions running. Maybe not all but some. I get that in the world we live in that might be difficult.
virtually no Christmas symbolism.
Making your feel bad fro taking the cheap route.
Social semioticians are interested in the way socially accepted meanings change as society evolves. For this project, the most relevant social change over the last 20 years in both countries is that most women in both countries are now in full time or part time work
This is just crazy to me that this idea/project has only been around for about 20 years.
emotional attachments that consumers have to brands
Ugh, this makes me a little sick. We all are hung up on one brand or another, and big companies know it.
perfect’ also required women to conform to what many might think are outdated notions of their role.
This is crazy to me, I feel like we've time traveled to 1950. Why does that even matter...?
st Century women about making the Christmas mea
I'm sure plenty MEN cook Christmas dinner, why did he just like 'genderize' (my new word) cooking!
consumers.
I don't really like this word, it just sucked the holiday joy right out of Christmas.
That we must rely on God Himself, and our whole dependance must be upon Him.
Im glad she came out with a stronger faith... oh wait.
I told them, they had as good knock me in head as starve me to death.
Someones getting sassy!
God did not give them courage or activity to go over after us. We were not ready for so great a mercy as victory and deliverance. If we had been God would have found out a way for the English to have passed this river,
Because God is probably punishing all of you people.. but also giving your strength.. and mad at you for miss yet another Sabbath. I really cant stand the contradictions.
with the blessing of God it cured me also
Or maybe it was a natural homeopathic remedy and not God.
. I then remembered how careless I had been of God’s holy time; how many Sabbaths I had lost and misspent, and how evilly I had walked in God’s sight
I'm really bothered by this. She says God is the only way she is pretty much getting through this, and now she's worrying about being a bad Christian. She needs to re-prioritize. Her view of God is just "wack' to me all together.
but God was with me in a wonderful manner, carrying me along, and bearing up my spirit, that it did not quite fai
Im happy she still has her faith, however what kind of God would put you through such a thing. I wonder what the Puritans would say to that.
One of these days, when that diary is found, when the hand that penned it shall be dust, with what amazement and remorse will many a husband or father exclaim, I never knew my wife or my child until this moment.
I love this because its saying they never got to know her, because they didn't let her be herself because they thought she couldn't be that. (if that makes sense)
“matrophobia” or the fear of becoming one’s mother
Aren't we all afraid to become our mother in one way or another?
that a woman creates her identity by choosing her clothes, that she creates her history by choosing her man.
This to me is incredibly powerful. Its hard not to read this and then look at your life or other lives (female lives) and question this. For a long time, I believe this was very true. However, its not like this so much anymore. I think its hard to move away from this kind of thinking and writing because this (women being subordinate)is just so ingrained in us.
has come to be a kind of domestic accomplishment
This is very interesting and brings to mind Kate Chopins Novel the Awakening
As we see in this analysis, one of the problems of the feminist critique is that it is male-oriented. If we study stereotypes of women, the sexism of male critics, and the limited roles women play in literary history, we are not learning what women have felt and experienced, but only what men have thought women should be.
Guys, I just got goose bumps.
by the male code of paternity, money, and legal contract.
I love this, its so one sided and MAN like. Yet men and women can be like this, and men can be loving and kind. The most emotional person I ever met was a man. I hate how one sided everyone is about this.
fears that feminist analysis has been coopted by academia
This is very interesting, we've cashed in on the hype so to speak.
n women’s fiction
Is there a mens fiction as well...? Ha.
The absence of a clearly articulated theory makes feminist criticism perpetually vulnerable to such attacks, and not even feminist critics seem to agree what it is that they mean to profess and defend.
Could it just be a vulnerable criticism, because its female heavy and we tend to live and view life in a male dominating world?
another piece of women’s’ lib propaganda masquerading as literary criticism
He clearly doesn't take feminism, very well. Its just a joke to him, as I can imagine that women are to him as well.
while the men stand gossiping in the sun, she is inside hard at work
Its almost like role reversal.
wondering why femininity requires brainwork
So insulting.
Can you ever truly separate the two? Will there always be an oppressor to the oppressed? You cant have one without the other.
Localization of problems prevents people seeing their problems as part oflarger picture. We can see this in social policy today (in our society): there are projects to help thisestate and that estate but no project to address the poverty of the poor collectively.
A very interesting statement. We always want to help the child in Africa who needs clean water, but not the homeless mother down the road.
Problem-posing education is an approach to education where teacher and student approach aproblem together.
I really like this idea, and not just from a future teacher standpoint. Its interesting to see it has changed from the Oppressor and the oppressed to a more collective group working together to solve issues/problems.
In this approach to education the teacher-studentteaches the student-teachers.
What a mouthful.
Theteacher always has knowledge. His knowledge is absolute
Again, this is how a lot of people view their teachers. Its crazy to me, but I and like most of you are guilty of this. Its just crazy to me that we think like this.
banking education fosters passivity in students by negating the spirit of inquiry
I love and agree with this.
n banking education the teacher 'knows', because he or she has received the officially sanctionedcurriculum knowledge which is then imparted as a stale, static narrative to the students.
As a small child, looking back this is how I viewed my teachers. As an adult, I don't see this anymore. However, I understand why we view certain people in this light.
can be deposited (like deposits in a bank)
I feel like Education is still treated like this today. They pour things in and we 'vomit' it out in order to achieve our 'dreams'.
a consciousness of being oppressed so they act to change this
I may have answered my own question!
Accordingly, the oppressed are emotionallydependent."
Is the argument that the oppressed need the oppressors and that the oppressed could never become the oppressor or just 'free'?
'Class membership'
Interesting term. Makes me think of Bjs or Sams Club. You have to have a membership to be in your own class.
A person who does not think(and think critically) about social and political reality but simply accepts it is thereby participating inthe world in a way which has been organised for him by others.
This is an interesting argument to make. Cant we all say we know a few people like this? Would they see it this way?
As we will see later this theory of the 'dual-nature'of the peasants creates the possibility of a kind of authoritarian outlook. In theory it creates thepossibility that peasants who disagree with the revolutionary ideas can be dismissed as having'internalised the oppressor'
Someone is always going to be "underneath" you in a way. Even if you are in the same class.
His particular concern is with thestate of consciousness of the oppressed class
This is very interesting. Do they know they are being oppressed? If yes, are they okay with it..?
that no violence should be offered to his no violence
Foreshadowing the violence to come..?
They leade a life, being voyde of care, which torments the mindes of fo hUg v/yd of many Chriftians
They lead a life that concerns the Christians, because the Christians see them as sinner. Are the Christians worried that the way they live their lives will impede on their own Christian life?
that I would let his son be brought up in my not savage house, that he might be taught to read in that book
How nice of him..
Kytan
Kytan = God
hey are not altogether without the knowledge of God (historically.
So they know about the White Mans God, but they don't have a God (per say)
It pleased God to keep me a long time without a child, which was a great grief to me, and cost mee many prayers and tears before I obtained one
This part breaks my heart. Only because she thinks her God is "toying" with her. When in reality she could have had a fertility issue, but because of the time period she would have never known.
I besought the Lord, and confessed my Pride and Vanity and he was entreated of me, and again restored me
The lord gave her small pox, but once she admitted to being a teenage girl he was like "yeah okay, you learned your lesson! No more small pox." this is crazy talk.
Millions will testify that this is true.
Not only does, she think she was incredible, but other people will back her on this. This is interesting considering they were both women living in time periods were women weren't respected as much as men.
The World's the Theater where she did act.
I love this! Its not only a great line. But its also showing the reader that Queen Elizabeth was a found supporter of the theater and a theater goer!
And trophies to thy name erect Which wearing time shall ne'er deject.
Her intelligence and ideas, will live on even when she doesn't. But beauty and material objects will not.
One Flesh was call'd, who had her eye On worldly wealth and vanity; The other Spirit, who did rear Her thoughts unto a higher sphere.
I really love how she describes these sister, you get a huge sense of them from this.
rubbing off a spot
This reminds me of Lady Macbeth "Out, damned spot..."
For such despite they cast on female wits, If what I do prove well, it won't advance-- They'll say it was stolen, or else it was by chance.
Men suck.
Who says my hand a needle better fits.
To me this is her saying "F you, just because I'm a lady doesn't mean I should be domestic."
Ideology is not in the first place a set of doctrines; it signifies the way men live out their roles in class-society, the values, ideas and images which tie them to their social functions and so prevent them from a true knowledge of society as a whole.
Are we bond by "our ideologies" then?
gladly pounced on
I wonder why.
So our liking for Greek art is a nostalgic lapse back into childhood
Um, no.
The Greeks were normal children.
This is just weird to me.
Marxism and literary criticism 6
Super excited to have this all explained to me in class, because i'm so lost.
men are not free to choose their social relations; they are constrained into them by material necessity
Is he saying that we cant move up the social latter? Or that we are conformed by 'our' material wealth the day we are born.. or both..?
Literary works are not mysteriously inspired, or explicable simply in terms of their authors' psychology. They are forms of perception, particular ways of seeing the world; and as such they have a relation to that dominant way of seeing the world which is the 'social mentality' or ideology of an age.
This is a very interesting concept.
their material life
so we are ruled by materialism?
It is not the consciousness of men that determines their being, but on the contrary, their social being that determines their consciousness.
This is very interesting, so your social status (if you will) is what determines your consciousness, which I'm understanding to be your life?
Consciousness does not determine life: life determines consciousness.
This is very deep. Who knew Marxism was so deep.
Most students of literature are taught otherwise: the greatest art is that which timelessly transcends its historical conditions.
So true.
Art and literature were part of the very air Marx breathed
I would have never guessed this in a thousand years.
Marxism is a scientific theory of human societies and of the practice of transforming them
So we took a scientific theory and were like yeah lets make a literary theory too.
ye law, Levit: 20. 15
The bible is law. Leviticus 20:15 "And if a man lie with a beast, he shall surely be put to death: and ye shall slay the beast."
confirmed it at his execution.
Okay, so he shouldn't have been doing that. Lets get that out there, but killing him seems a little drastic to me!
Horrible [249] it is to mention, but ye truth of ye historie requires it
This sentence is my favorite. I never learned about this kid in any of my history classes.. what a shame.. Who knew this was an important part in our history.
And yet all this could not suppress ye breaking out of sundrie notorious sins, (as this year, besids other, gives us too many sad presidents and instances,) espetially drunkennes and unclainnes; not only incontinencie betweene persons unmaried, for which many both men & women have been punished sharply enough, but some maried persons allso.
So some of these people ate being very bad Christians!
prays therof to God
Giving THANKS to God.. interesting.
But againe when they considered, how much wrong they had received from the Pequents, and what an oppertunitie they now had by ye help of ye English
I feel like this is what I was talking about in my earlier annotations! With the Englishmen and Natives killing another tribe.
Plimoth
Plymouth!
May-polle to be cutt downe
No more "funny business" as my father would say.
(like so many fairies, or furies rather,)
Excuse me WHAT...?
If any did unjustly warr against him, they would aide him; if any did warr against them, he should aide them.
I could be wrong, but didn't they and they being the white man and the natives kill a rival tribe of the natives.. and then they had a large feast and thats really where we get Thanksgiving from?
With whom, after frendly entertainment, & some gifts given him, they made a peace with him (which hath now continued this 24. years) in these terms.
THANKSGIVING.
Samaset;
So apparently over the time we changes the spelling of this poor native mans name.
Indians
Before they were barbarians now they are Indians. I wonder if they are now calling them Indians, because they have a better relationship with them?
And yet the Lord so upheld these persons
Yes the Lord did it! Not their immune systems! Just the Lord.
Let them confess before ye Lord his loving kindnes, and his wonderfull works before ye sons of men.
Religion is a huge factor for these people. God can get them through anything, as they see it. Its crazy to me though, because I do feel like religion has been a big influence in some our readings. However, now it just seems to have blown up into a way bigger deal. we never had this many references to God/Lord in any of the prior readings.
from all ye civill parts of ye world
Interesting.
sharp & violent, & subjecte to cruell & feirce stormes, deangerous to travill to known places
I've never read truer words.
God of heaven, who had brought them over ye vast & furious ocean, and delivered them from all ye periles & miseries therof
God is very powerful, and a huge influence in and on their lives.
And I may not omite hear a spetiall worke of Gods providence.
Is he saying they're sick because of God?
Preface
What did I even just read...
his sword taken from him.
Symbolic Castration
Out of the big beams
Kind of poetic in a really dark way, though!
wanted all the young girls to be brought to him when they were about thirteen or fourteen years old. They had to live with the priest. He told the people they would become better women if they lived with him for about three years.
This man is not only disgusting but he is, tarnishing the already tarnished reputation of the Catholic Religion
priest,
Wow, man. You took an oath before GOD. You are supposed to be a pure holy vessel
These places are called Puwa-kiki, cave places.
Its sad that they had to hide their religion, in such a way.
In that way their own religion was altogether wiped out, because they were not allowed to worship in their own way.
And they wonder why the Natives revolted. You came in and told them they were living on your land, and they were living wrong and then punished them for their culture and norms.
He did not like the Kachinas and he destroyed the altars and the customs. He called it idol worship and burned up all the ceremonial things in the plaza.
How would HE feel if they told him he was idol worshiping and then destroyed his church and his bibles?!
told the people that they had much more power than all their chiefs
This is how they get them to convert they trick them into it, by deception.
This reminds me of Things Fall Apart.
When the Spaniards came, the Hopi thought that they were the ones they were looking for–their white brother, the Bahana, their savior.
A religious figure, to the Natives, suggesting that they are not barbarians and have morals and religions.
and shedding my blood for God
Everything is justified when you're doing it for God..
Thus, after God, the only succor and relief that we have rests with your reverence and in your diligence
What a little suck up
much was made of them
like what...?
in our service
By choice or force?
for if they would return to obedience to his Majesty they would be pardoned;
I love these fear tactics they are trying to use one them
I sent some soldiers to summon him and tell him on my behalf that he could come to see me in entire safety
Uh, clearly he doesn't want to talk to you...
Tanos and Pecos might endanger the person of the reverend father custodian, I wrote to him to set out at once for the villa, not feeling reassured even with the escort which the lieutenant took, at my orders, but when they arrived with the letter they found that the Indians had already killed the said father custodian; Father Fray Domingo de Vera; Father Fray Manuel Tinoco, the minister guardian of San Marcos, who was there; and Father Fray Fernando de Velasco, guardian of Los Pecos, near the pueblo of Galisteo, he having escaped that far from the fury of the Pecos.
After reading more, it seems the Christian Religion offended them in such a way that this is all apparently warranted.
and so great, that my efforts were of little avail.
He's really sucking up here. "I tried I tried!!"
miserable kingdom
Tranquility in a miserable kingdom? You sir are a liar. you can't have both.
Also he has said this 3 times now, is it only miserable now because of what happened? Was it a great and happy place before?
plot for a general uprising of the Christian Indians was being formed and was spreading rapidly.
Im going to go ahead and say the natives didn't actually convert and got sick of the ways their people and their were being treated and decided to attack.
_communication occurs within situations and that to be in a situation is already to be in possession of (or to be possessed by) a structure of assumptions, of practices under-stood to be relevant in relation to purposes and goals that are already in place; and it is within the assumption of tl~se pur-poses and goals that any utterance is immediately heard
Context, is very important without it we could be even more lost to what the meaning could be. This way we have a better idea.
In short
Ha! OKay, so what Ive gathered so far.. in SHORT. Is that pretty much the reader/listen interprets what they want, and cannot look or hear things in an objective manner. Furthermore supporting the relationship between readers and the text.
h.e stability of the text is an illusion
Crazy to think, and even to say.
meaning but an utterance whose already assigned meaning has been found to be inappropriate.
Its only inappropriate, because the person uttering the word has given it mean before it left their lips. The person on the other end is the one who interpreted the meaning wrong.
he problem of how meaning is determined is only a problem if there is a point at which its determination has not yet been made, and I am saying that there is no such point.
So kind of like a catch 22?
That islJ! is impossible even to think 7'-of a sentence independently of a context, and when we are asked to consider a sentence for which no context has been specified. we will automatica1ly hear it in the context in which it has been most often encountered
This is so true, we cant just shut our brains off to think of all the meanings one sentence could mean. Its like we run on this autopilot system, and compute what is most accurate to the situation.
nut the "happiness
Okay, so I didn't want to highlight everything, but above it goes along with what I'm about to say.
I understand what he's saying, and that you can't get the point of happiness out of "crisp air". However, I would argue that you can get both the happiness and the sense of the air. I'm not saying that everyone and their mother will get it, I'm just saying a select few of people will understand him completely due to their own experiences.
"institutional nesting"
This is an awesome phrase, and I love it. Also its a very interesting concept.
This does not mean that there is no way to discriminate between the meanings an utterance will have in different situations, but that the discrimination will already have been made by virtue of our being in a situation (we are never not in one) and that in another situation the discrimina-tion will a]so have already been made, but differently.
So we can, but really we cant because we would have already made the assumption of what the meaning is due to the context of the situation?
"I think I left my text in this class; have yon seen it?" ·we would then have an "Is there a text in this class?":i and the possibility, feared by the defenders of the normative and determinate, of an endless succession of numbers, that is, of a world in which every utter-ance has an infinite plurality of meanings.
Language is weird.
indeed, in the course of this essay I will be arguing that unin-telligibility, in the strict or pure sense, is an impossibility
Interesting.
hat bureaucratic matters must be attended to before instruction begins
To me this the drilling in of all the literary elements, the THEORIES, the way you do this, the way you do that. Also yeah syllabus' get thrown in there too.
It is just that .these norms are not embedded in the language (where they may be read out by anyone with sufficiently clear, that is. unbiased, eyes) but in-here in an institutional structure within which one hears utter-ances as already organized with reference to certain assumed purposes and goals.
We need to broaden our understanding, and change the way we look at words or a sentence. There are several meanings behind anything and everything.
"I mean in this class do we believe in poems and things, or is it just us?"
This just reinforces that emotions, experiences, the author, the text, that everything matters when reading!
...The day after I overtook four [Christians] on horseback, who were astonished at the sight of me, so strangely habited as I was, and in company with Indians.* They stood staring at me a length of time, so confounded that they neither hailed me nor drew near to make an inquiry...
He is "one" with the natives, yet still holds on to his religion and european culture/norms with him.
a land very fertile and beautiful, abounding in springs and streams, the hamlets deserted and burned, the people thin and weak
Interesting contrast of a bountiful earth, but a weak/lifeless native, due to the Christians fear tactics.
They are a timid and dejected people...
Have the influences of Europeans begun to rub off on the natives, I wonder?
After they have fought, or had out their dispute, they take their dwell- ings and go into the woods, living apart from each other until their heat has subsided.
This seems a little extreme to me. Moving your entire home away from another man over something probably trivial.
the Indians leave him to perish, unless it be a son or a brother; him they will assist, even to carrying on their back
No one cares about the ladies.
otherwise those who lived would be delicate having httle strength.
Okay. I was nervous for a minute. I slightly take back what I said earlier.
The children are suckled until the age of twelve years, when they are old enough to get sup- port for themselves
Okay, so I have heard of and know a few women who have breast fed their child until he/she was 5 years of age. After reading this, it feels like the same thing, however maybe they stay close to their mothers and are coddled thats way? not necessarily breast fed until 12..?
mercy of God
very ironic that God would send you on this "mission" treat your horribly, yet save you give you hope all at the same time.
This was all the protection I had against cold, while walking naked as I was born
Its like the is adapting to this "new" culture he was thrown into.
in a plight so different from what it was before, and so extraordinary, they were alarmed and turned back.
They don't want to get what they have, is what I'm going to assume is whats happening.
After the provisions and clothes had been taken in, not over a span of the gunwales remained above water ; and more than this, the boats were so crowded that we could not move : so much can necessity do, which drove us to hazard our hves in this manner, running into a turbu- lent sea, not a single one who went, having a know- ledge of navigation.
Did they just send the most incompetent people across the world to discover things...? Like these people have no skills and I'm honestly surprised they're not ALL dead yet.
persons of gentle condition
He means "weak" people, people who are too nice to survive
They are of admirable proportions, very spare and of great activity and strength. The bows they use are as thick as the arm, of eleven or twelve palms in length, which they will discharge at two hundred paces with so great pre- cision that they miss nothing.
I like how he can talk "positively" about the natives, given his past with them.
They drove their arrows with such eiFect that they wounded many men and horses, and before we got through the lake they took our guide.
It seems like this isn't the natives first time with the white man, and by the looks of it the first time didn't go so well.
We inquired of the cacique we kept and the natives we brought with us,
Did he just kidnap a bunch of natives to conquer other natives?
in peace to us
Like they had a choice to not come in peace.. ?
The lakes in the country of Apalachen are much larger than those we found before coming there.
Oh my god guys, the world looks different in different places...!?
for some persons difficult to believe, nevertheless they may without hesitation credit me as strictly faithful
Is it going to be hard for some people to believe because of the time period and his actions seem radical for the time?
attempted to adapt
This reminds me of something I heard in one of my classes long ago "Guys! We're English Majors, we can just totally bs it until it fits!"
The danger is that the transactional view may be misunderstood as focusing too narrowly on "the mind" of the reader isolated from anything outside himself
Is she saying that this approach of reading could cause some backlash from the literary world? Due to a heavy influence of the readers feelings and emotions when interpreting the work?
The concept of the poem as the experience shaped by the reader under the guidance of the text shocks those who succumb to the tendency to assume that a name, a title, must point to a thing, an entity, an object. But when we try to think of what a title—Hamlet, say, or Moby Dick—might refer to apart from a reader, whether the [13] author himself or another, "the work" disappears.
I just really love this concept of losing or disappearing work.
the poem" and "the text,
When I hear the word "poem" I think of something I might enjoy reading. When I hear "the text" I don't feel like an English Major I feel like a Psychology Major.
We cannot simply look at the text and predict the poem.
We need to feel the poem, and experience to poem.
aware of the need for another approach
There are many different approaches to reading, and I think its silly to analyze what you just read by only using one certain approach.
But for most readers, the third line, with its reference to the sun, created the necessity for a revision of the tentative response to the first two lines. In comment after comment, there occurs a phrase such as "on second thought", "a second look," "another idea." One reader spells out the problem: "The third line seems most confusing. If I stick to my theory of producer talking to backers it really makes no sense."
This entire little section just speaks to me. As readers and as students I feel like we are always either going deeper into/ or back over our work or readings to achieve the "maximum knowledge level"
We also as humans tend to pick at things that confuse us, until A. they make sense or B. they really don't make sense
Some of the readers became involved with ideas called up by the first two lines, and neglected the rest:
I feel as if this happens a lot in the world of reading. We as readers can become so hung up on a line or two and we forget there is more to it.
One writes, "Upon reading . . . the first time, I couldn't make any sense out of it."
This is my life. These words speak to my soul.
Knowing the author and prior acquaintance with his work may speed up the process, but l was interested in what happens when the reader has to start from scratch with the text on the page.
I like how she supports knowing about the Author, but I also like how she's letting the reader come up with the interpretation.
of ours, "The Intentional Fallacy" (The Sewanee Review, Summer, 1946), it may be relevant to assert at this point that we believe ourselves to be exploring two roads which have seemed to offer conveni ent detours around the acknowledged and usually feared ob stacles to objective criticism, both of which, however, have actually led away from criticism and from poetry. The In
I didn't want to highlight all this, and it took me 10 minutes to highlight this.. anyway!
I just really like the idea of two roads, with a bunch of detours and construction.
which, as I have already said, is half of a perfect sphere.
So the "savage" part of the world, cant be the other half of a perfect sphere because they are uneducated and different from the other half of the world.