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    1. Oui, le NT reprend la structure conceptuelle des Rephaïm (un collectif de puissants défunts qui a une influence sur le monde des vivants), mais il renverse radicalement le signe :

      on pourrait faire un lien entre ça et le fait que quelque chose de déja exustant est transformé et réorienté à l'intérieur de la personne du Christ

    1. Compare how nT texts bend over backwards to insist that Jesus’ resur-rection was both an individual and a collective phenomenon (Matt 27:51–53; 1 Cor15:20; Col 1:18)

      Jésus serait le rephaim par qui les morts ressuscitent dans le NT en gros ce qui nuancerait la rupture entre la resurrection collective du judaisme ancien et la resurrection individuelle du christianisme

    2. group interests coincided. To think about group identity and hope was necessar-ily to think about the fate after death of these individuals.

      DONC LES OMBRES ICI SERAIENT LES rephaims (forme de monopsychisme)

    3. The Persians did not imagine the rising of buried corpses, but a recreation of bod-ies from the bare elements of nature. Three centuries before a Jewish apocalypsedescribes a resurrection, herodotus attests to the Zoroastrian practice of exposingdead corpses to be picked clean by vultures and dogs (Hist. 1.140).

      oui donc la tradition de la résurrection chez les zoroastriens est très différente

    4. the hope of bodily resurrection in theearly Jewish apocalypses is discontinuous with preceding biblical tradition. itis not found in so-called apocalyptic prophecy. Contact with Zoroastrianismis sometimes posited as the impetus behind resurrection faith (e.g., see lang2008). This particular hypothesis, however, is unnecessary (see hays 2011: 331;levenson 2006)

      théorie selon laquelle la résurrection des morts serait une influence zoroastrienne

    5. TheZechariah authors had the image in their own Zadokite traditions of the Torah (seenum 31:23, a text of the Zadokite holiness school strand). Using this motif in no waybetrayed their heritage

      HEIN ?

    6. ezekiel even describes a “likeness” or “semblance” of God (ezek 1:26; cf. ezek 8:2lxx ), an affront that would horrify other biblical authors (see isa 40:18, 25; 46:5). inhis visionary travels to Jerusalem (chs. 8–11), ezekiel sees the un-see-able. at 8:3 hepeers across time to observe an asherah that king Manasseh set up (2 kgs 21:7) butthat was removed by his own time (2 kgs 23:6). his visionary gaze penetrates thedepths of the underworld (ezek 32:17–32). he finds assyria relegated to the deep-est, uttermost recesses of the Pit (32:22–23; cf. isa 14:15). long before the hellenisticapocalypses, ezekiel knew that the wicked have a distinctive fate set aside for themafter death

      exemple de sort négatif au sheol bien avant le judaisme rabbinique

    7. The work of Jesuit theologian karl rahner (1904–1984) is particularly illuminatingof the above remarks. rahner is keenly concerned with transcendence, powerfullyaware of “the infinite counterpart of this earthly emptiness,” of “the frail and nar-row frame of . . . present existence” (rahner 1999: 48, 57). he explains that the truthsof transcendent reality have a backdoor entrée into perception via the archetypesknown to comparative religion and psychoanalytic study. in his philosophy, arche-types are a prethematic, “natural” witness to the transcendent plane. if this is true, nowonder apocalyptic literature avails itself of them as windows or openings out intothe absolute.

      ça fait pas mal penser à l'affirmation existentiale de Bultmann

    8. it remains true that belief in an imminent eschaton has not always led to theabolition of earthly distinctions. even communities that share possessions areoften highly authoritarian and hierarchical, as can be seen already in the dead seascrolls. but here again apocalyptic traditions are open to more than one kind ofinterpretation

      ce serait l'aspect "progressiste" des apocalypses

    9. “The apocalypse,” writes TinaPippin, à propos of Mark 13, “is to occur by mass murder and destruction; what-ever it takes . . . why did i ever think that this apocalypse was ethically acceptable?”

      IL ME semble que l'idée c'est qu'il existerait une tradition "apocalypticiste" qui serait clairement distincte de l'idée de rédemption dans la Bible

    10. Where the ancient apocalypses often arose out of crisis and persecution, their mod-ern counterparts often seem smugly self-congratulatory on the part of a presumedelect. They lack the sense of anomie and existential angst that characterizes the clas-sic apocalyptic texts (Wilder 1971: 440).

      L'idée c'est qu'ils n'auraient donc pas ce contexte de persecution qui caractérisait les mouvements apocalyptiques antiques. Mais bon ils peuvent le produire eux-memes en se séparant de la société...

    11. nonetheless there have been severalhigh-profile calculations in recent years, notably harold Camping’s prediction thatthe world would end on May 21, 2011 (Camping 2005) and the much-publicized endof the Mayan calendar on december 21, 2012

      interessant car ça veut dire que la fameuse apocalypse maya de 2012 se base sur les traditions apocalyptiques du christianisme remontant à Daniel et beaucoup plus tard au mouvzement adventiste au travers du great dissapointment de 1843

    12. other intersecting ideological axis was constituted by a mythological complex thatreceived its classic literary formulation in some of the so-called apocalyptic books”(2001: 74–75). schwartz refers to his complex as “the apocalyptic myth.”

      Mais en quoi ça s'opposerait à l'Alliance ? au contraire les apocalypses insistent énormement sur cela

    13. There is no doubt thatthere is continuity between biblical prophecy and apocalypticism, but there are dif-ferences too. The differences pertain especially to the degree to which the vision-ary has access to the supernatural world. isaiah or Jeremiah may have stood in thecouncil of the lord, but there are no descriptions of ascents of prophets throughthe heavens such as we find in the case of enoch.

      Dans le cas des Apocalypses il y a souvent l'asymétrie du rapport de force qui fait qu'on veut d"crire avec acuité et précision un monde nouveau, dans lequel on est vainqueur.

    14. but there is also what bernard McGinn hascalled an imperial apocalypticism, in which the coming judgment reinforces theauthority of imperial power (1979: 33–36). This appears especially in the Middle ages,but the journey of aeneas to the netherworld in the sixth book of the Aeneid, withits promise of glory for rome, may perhaps qualify as an early example.

      mais pourquoi dire que c'est une apocalypse...

    15. because the Gestalt structure contains default and optionalcomponents, as well as necessary ones, individual exemplars can depart from theprototypical exemplars with respect to default and optional elements and still be rec-ognizable as an extended case of ‘that sort of text’ ”

      En fait ce qui compte ce n'est pas les propriétés mais la forme que donne un ensemble depropriétés deux ensembles de propriéts différents peuvent donner une forme identique alors il s'agit du meme objet, il s'(agit d'une Gestalt structure.

    16. the limitations of history.entailed in the use of mythic patterns is the sense that the course of history is notcontrolled by human actions but b

      kktkk

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  2. Mar 2026
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      les gnostiques ?

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      "En considérant que", cette asociation ne semble pas évidente

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