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    1. Grant was in many ways a fierce and committed antiracist. As a general, he fought the Confederacy with energy and brutal commitment. He notably insisted that the Confederacy treat imprisoned black soldiers the same as white ones, to Robert E Lee's consternation. As president, Grant broke the KKK and fought for Black voting rights with a tenacity few other presidents have rivaled. {"requests":{"csi":"https://csi.gstatic.com/csi?"},"transport":{"xhrpost":false},"triggers":{"adRequestStart":{"on":"ad-request-start","request":"csi","sampleSpec":{"sampleOn":"a4a-csi-${pageViewId}","threshold":1},"selector":"amp-ad","selectionMethod":"closest","extraUrlParams":{"met.a4a":"afs_lvt.${viewerLastVisibleTime}~afs.${time}"}},"adResponseEnd":{"on":"ad-response-end","request":"csi","sampleSpec":{"sampleOn":"a4a-csi-${pageViewId}","threshold":1},"selector":"amp-ad","selectionMethod":"closest","extraUrlParams":{"met.a4a":"afe.${time}"}},"adRenderStart":{"on":"ad-render-start","request":"csi","sampleSpec":{"sampleOn":"a4a-csi-${pageViewId}","threshold":1},"selector":"amp-ad","selectionMethod":"closest","extraUrlParams":{"met.a4a":"ast.${scheduleTime}~ars_lvt.${viewerLastVisibleTime}~ars.${time}","qqid":"${qqid}"}},"adIframeLoaded":{"on":"ad-iframe-loaded","request":"csi","sampleSpec":{"sampleOn":"a4a-csi-${pageViewId}","threshold":1},"selector":"amp-ad","selectionMethod":"closest","extraUrlParams":{"met.a4a":"ail.${time}"}}},"extraUrlParams":{"s":"ampad","ctx":"2","c":"${correlator}","slotId":"${slotId}","puid":"${requestCount}~${timestamp}"}} Download the new Independent Premium app Sharing the full story, not just the headlines Download now But Grant's legacy also has less admirable aspects. Grant's wife had legal ownership of several Black people when he married her, and he himself kept a person in slavery for a year before freeing him at the start of the Civil War. As president, Grant's policy towards Native American people could easily be described as cultural genocide. He instigated an illegal and bloody war against the Lakota people of the Black Hills, and used federal force to push Native people onto reservations and to slaughter the buffalo they relied on for food. "American Indians experienced some of the worst massacres and grossest injustices in history while Ulysses S Grant was in office," Alysa Landry writes at Indian Country Today.

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    2. Whenever you put someone on a pedestal, you physically elevate them over their fellow humans. To do that, you have to fudge their flaws and their humanity. That's why the best memorials are those which embed people in their time and community, rather than trying to lift them above it.

      To Hobie's argument that statues are history thus they shouldn't be removed, this is an interesting counter-- putting figures on pedestals makes them seem better than us "normal" folk. Monuments like Grant's say "we ought to look up to this person because they are the height of morality," but what if historical installments focus on the moral achievement itself, rather than a single person who contribute to said achievement. Perhaps then it would be more representative of values ALL people can get behind.