"In your youth, did you learn any trade?"
For someone who's on trial for a crime, they're asking her all the wrong questions.
"In your youth, did you learn any trade?"
For someone who's on trial for a crime, they're asking her all the wrong questions.
but of the revelations which have come to me from God, to no one will I speak or reveal them, save only to Charles my King; and to you I will not reveal them, even if it cost me my head; because I have received them in visions and by secret counsel, and am forbidden to reveal them. Before eight days are gone, I shall know if I may reveal them to you."
She's extremely bold.
"I know not upon what you wish to question me: perhaps you may ask me of things which I ought not to tell you."
I admire how she's not scared at all. If it was any other medieval woman, I think they'd be quaking in their boots to be put on trial.
which imputes these misdeeds to her, has spread in all estates of Christendom; that, in the last place, the most Serene and most Christian our lord the King has sent and given her up to Us in order that, according to law and right, an action may be brought against her in the matter of the Faith; that, acting upon this common report, upon public rumor, and also on certain information obtained by Us, of which mention has already been often enough made, by the advice of men versed in sacred and secular Law, We have officially given commandment to cite the said Joan to appear before Us, in order through her to obtain truthful answers to the questions to be put to her in matters of the Faith, and in order to act towards her according to law and right; which does so appear in the letters that the Promoter has shown.
Not only does she answer to the court, she answers to the entire population of men and women for her "misdeeds"
For it is her smallest task To overthrow the English reign, For she aspires to much more: That the faith shall never wane. As for the English, if one laughs Or weeps, we are now shut of them. They will be completely conquered. The future will sing their requiem!
It is Joan's prophecy or her purpose of life to overthrow the English crown?
She will assault the Saracens In conquering the Holy Land. God save Charles! She'll lead him there. Before he dies, he will command To journey there. This is the place He ought to win. And here should she Expire. Here both shall glory win! And thus completed may things be!
Kind of like a war cry!
or Merlin, the Sibyl, and old Bede Five hundred years and more ago, Saw her in spirit and foretold, That she would come ease France's woe. They wrote it down in prophecies, That she would come bear France's banner In France's wars, and told about Her deed, and well described its manner.
There is a lot of external references to other author's work like Merlin and biblical references.
You must believe that such great grace, Was given to you for some goal, That God ordained the time and place That you might play a greater role.
Is this referring to the Divine Right of Kings? They are chosen by God to rule a nation?
I've thrown off mourning, now I'm able To see what I have long yearned to.
Sounds like an epiphany for Christine. Her major realization.
he King's son—if one can dare to say— Fled from Paris, gone afar. Now I can laugh again today!
Why laugh if the King's son has gone away? Did she commit a crime that made the King's son flee?
Shut in an abbey all the time, Unceasingly have shed my tears, Enclosed there by that dreadful crime,
She's been locked in a church or cathedral for some dreadful crime she committed?
And certes, it is an ill thought and deed, for when the husbands see that they cease their service, and mount unto domination, and that they do it too much and that by suffering ill good may come, then those women be all at once, by their husband's rightful will, cast down even as Lucifer was....
Haha! That was a warning to scare her!
that the husbands be fools if they perceive it not; and when they perceive it, if the husband and wife be silent and pretend one with another, it is an ill beginning and will lead to a worse end
Hmm, I thought the men were supposed to be the genetically superior and intelligent figure of the marriage and household.
And thus shall you preserve and keep your husband from all discomforts and give him all the comforts whereof you can bethink you, and serve him and have him served in your house, and you shall look to him for outside things, for if he be good he will take even more pains and labour therein than you wish, and by doing what I have said, you will cause him ever to miss you and have his heart with you and your loving service and he will shun all other houses, all other women, all other services and households. All will be as naught to him save you, who think for him as is aforesaid, and who ought so to do, by the ensample that you see of horsemen riding abroad, for you see that as soon as they be come home to their house from a journey, they cause their horses to be given fresh litter up to their bellies; these horses be unharnessed and made comfortable, they be given honey and picked hay and sifted oats, and they be better looked after in their own stables on their return than anywhere else. And if the horses be thus made comfortable, so much the more ought the persons, to wit the lords, to be so at their own expense on their return.
Once you get married, you're bound for servitude for the rest of your life.
Then they lament and cry and say that these same women have bewitched their children and that the lads be spell bound and cannot leave them and are never at ease save when they are with them. But, whatever they may say, it is no witchcraft, but it is for the sake of the love, the care, the intimacies, joys and pleasures that these women show unto them in all things and, on my soul, there is none other enchantment. For whoever giveth all its pleasure to a bear, a Wolf, or a lion, that same bear, wolf, or lion will follow after him, and so the other beasts might say, could they but speak, that those thus tamed must be bewitched. And, on my soul, I trow that there is none other witchcraft than well doing, and no man can be better bewitched than by giving him what pleaseth him.
Reminds me of Capellanus's "The Art of Courtly Love"
such services make a man love and desire to return to his home and to see his goodwife, and to be distant with others.
If you follow these guidelines, your husband will not pursue secret affairs behind is wife's back. (Totally)
Wherefore love your husband's person carefully, and I pray you keep him in clean linen, for that is your business, and because the trouble and care of outside affairs lieth with men, so must husbands take heed, and go and come, and journey hither and thither, in rain and wind, in snow and hail, now drenched, now dry, now sweating, now shivering, ill-fed, ill-lodged, ill-warmed and ill-bedded.
Basically, she better take care of her husband because she's going to have a really hard time finding another one. Might as well keep husband number one in the best shape possible before finding husband number two.
fair sister
If it is his wife, why does he keep calling her sister?
Taking the first of the four particulars, which biddeth you to be humble and obedient to your husband, the Scripture bids it .... That is to say, it is the command of God that wives be subject to their husbands as their lords, for the husband is the head of the wife, even as our Lord Jesus Christ is the head of the Church. Thus it followeth that even as the Church is subject and obedient to the commandments, great and small, of Jesus Christ, as to her head, even so wives ought to be subject to their husbands as to their head and obey them and all their commandments great and small....
Is this actually true?
for his pleasure should come before yours.
This entire paragraph is all stereotypical characteristics of a medieval housewife/lady. Very different than Erec et Enide.
The first particular saith that you shall be obedient: to wit to him and to his commandments whatsoever they be, whether they be made in earnest or in jest, or whether they be orders to do strange things, or whether they be made concerning matters of small import or of great; for all things should be of great import to you, since he that shall be your husband hath bidden you to do them.
Very stereotypical medieval beliefs.
Another ensample may be taken from the dog Macaire, that saw his master slain within a wood, and when he was dead left him not, but lay down in the wood near to the dead man, and by day went to find food afar off and brought it back in his mouth and there returned without eating it, but lay down and drank and ate beside the corpse of his master, all dead within the wood.
So basically, if a woman's husband dies, she must mourn in the same way as the dog did OR she can go all psycho on whoever is responsible for the death.
If the male birds stop, so also do the females and settle near to their mates; when the males fly away they fly after them, side by side. And likewise wild birds, be they ravens, crows, jackdaws, nay, birds of prey such as hawks, falcons, tercels and goshawks and the like, that be nurtured by persons strange to them in the beginning, after that they have taken food from those strangers, they love them more than others So likewise is with domestic and field animals, as with wild beasts.
Seriously? Comparing women and men to animals? How creative.
amely the salvation of your soul and the comfort of your husband, be the two things most chiefly necessary, therefore are they here placed first
God and Man first.
necessary to gain the love of God and the salvation of your soul, and also to win the love of your husband
How about her husband winning her love?
You being the age of fifteen years and in the week that you and I were wed, did pray me to be indulgent to your youth and to your small and ignorant service, until you had seen and learned more; to this end you promised me to give all heed and to set all care and diligence to keep my peace and my love, as you spoke full wisely, and as I well believe, with other wisdom than your own, beseeching me humbly in our bed, as I remember, for the love of God not to correct you harshly before strangers nor before our own folk, but rather each night, or from day to day, in our chamber, to remind you of the unseemly or foolish things done in the day or days past, and chastise you, if it pleased me, and then you would strive to amend yourself according to my teaching and correction, and to serve my will in all things, as you said.
This sounds really demeaning and it seems like whoever wrote this is talking to a child.
Long Arse
What does this mean?
But immediately put foot on ground And raised her robe And bent over in front of him. "Sir, put your face here."
Um, this is disgusting. I'm 100% sure that no woman did that with his wife when they're outside.
He did not recognize the lady; The naked sword fell from his hand, And straightway his senses fled; "Sire," he said, "for the mercy of God, If I have done you wrong in any way, I will make it up to you without argument; Willingly -- as much as you want -- I will give you riches and money."
Okay but like, it's also her money too because it's his wife? He's been living with her for 10 years and you don't recognize your own wife? Another reason that were thought of as insignificant/invisible.
The lady perceived and well knew That he had deceived her by some stratagem, And she determines that if he goes again To the woods she will follow him And thus see what he does And how he conducts himself there.
You would think that women of this time are uneducated or "dumb", but this shows that women are not as unintelligent as their husbands think. They are actually quite intelligent or clever.
fabliaux
Fabliaux: a metrical humorous tale
He had great shame and great anger, But he did not dare to say anything against her. He felt himself discomfited and defeated; And she did what she pleased, She who was neither foolish nor lowborn. "When the shepherd is weak, the wolf shits wool."
Damn, the lady told her man off. Again, quite strange for a woman of this time period, but still, go her for being brave and valiant.
I am called Bèrenger of the Long Arse, Who puts all cowards to shame."
What is the purpose of the "Long-Arse" at the end? Is he okay?
If you fall, without fail Straightway you lose your head, For I will have no pity on you -- Or I will dismount on foot, And I will bend over And you will come and kiss my arse,
Wow, for a lady, she's super bold to be talking like that. I feel like this shows that not all women kept mum. There were some who were the exception. But it's kind of gross that she'd suggest to do that in public.
That you should touch such a good knight Nor one so covered with glory as I am. There is no one in your family so bold Or so daring as I am;
This makes him sound very vain and arrogant. Demonstrates the male superiority of the time period.
Because he was such a boaster, That he was not at all a knight Descended from noble lineage. Then she reminded him of her noble family,
So basically, this knight is not as chivalrous as a knight should be. Instead of pressing matters of state or defending the country, he indulges in sex and anything other than his duties.
he shall take the communion and undergo the ordeal of hot iron. If he is found guilty, he shall do penance within the bishopric for seven years.
Is this the time where the Church and their cardinals and bishops administer punishments like this in the name of God and salvation?
shall take for their support only as much as is necessary for themselves and their horses.
But, if you were wealthy, technically you could take as much as you wanted because of affluence. Survival of the fittest.
he shall be exiled for thirty years as a penance, and before he leaves the bishopric he shall make compensation for the injury which he committed. Otherwise he shall be excommunicated by the Lord God and excluded from all Christian fellowship.
Why such a harsh punishment? Were there no exceptions t this rule?
no man or woman shall assault, wound, or slay another, or attack, seize, or destroy a castle, burg, or villa, by craft or by violence.
However, in the Medieval time period, wasn't the whole part of a knight's job to defend the country and the sovereign ruler? Technically, no loyal knight would be able to go through with this rule. There are a plethora of countries who do not practice the Christian faith and if they happened to attack, it is not realistic that a Christian knight would resist fighting and slaying the enemy.