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  1. Nov 2021
    1. be said that their use of strategies tokeep the conversation smooth was significantlyrelated to their oral communication ability in En-glish. By using these strategies, the students re-duced communication breakdowns, which madetheir speech more fluen

      that is expected but unfortunately also not the best news since the less proficient students need them more

    2. herefore, it is appropriate to an-alyze learners’ discourse data by focusing on notonly negotiation devices but also other strategiesfor maintaining and developing interaction.

      This is why I think there were a little short on the importance of interaction. They want to focus not only on interaction

    3. ) negotiation has an-alyzed learners’ interaction by a single method—transcription data analysis—which makes itdifficult to interpret learners’ actual intentionof specific strategy use.

      This is were interviews come in

    1. general behaviors, classroom behaviors, andinteraction behaviors. The reliability of the behav-ior scales was estimated by Cronbach’s alpha (.77,.75, and .72 for each respective part)

      How do you estimate reliability? Or is a cronbach alpha always an estimate?

    2. An indirect general statement does not au-tomatically present a direct use of strategies ina real classroom setting.

      I read in another article about strategies by Dörnyei, that strategies only count as strategies when they are used intentionally.

    1. Awareness-raising activities aimed at drawing students’ attention to strategies, along with strategy instruction to broaden their strategy reper-toires and increase their confidence and ability in strategy use, should become the order of the day in language classrooms.

      :)

    2. What, why and how they learn is more likely to depend on what they believe to be right

      well, or what has worked for them in the past so I don't know why one causality should be stronger than the other

    3. gauge knowledge about strategies and tap into perceived use of strategies. Students rated the usefulness

      so here they confound knowledge about. strategies and usefulness of each strategy which I don't understand. I can know about a strategy but still think it's not very useful

    4. Communication strategies take two forms in this study. One concerns what students do when they miss or fail to understand what has been said. The other involves how to communicate their meaning when they lack specific words.

      that's exactly the strategies that I'd like to focus on

    5. erson knowledge encompasses every-thing that language learners have come to believe about themselves and others as learners. Task knowledge refers to what learners know about the purpose, demands and nature of learning tasks. Strategy knowledge is learners’ percep-tions or beliefs about strategies that are effective in facilitating learning and achieving defined learning goals in specific situations.

      I like this because my project would include all three (person -L2 motivational self, task - task motivation, strategy - communication strategies)

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    1. ata is based on only four participants, we should be cautious in generalisingconclusions from these results. Hence, further qualitative research is neededwith a larger number of participants to confirm whether perceived strategy use,as measured by questionnaires, can be validated by actual strategy use.

      I don't understand why they did not evaluate both data sets quantitatively

    2. know. Due to the two-way, split infor-mation, closed nature of the task learners were forced to refer to these lexicalitems and so resorted to compensation strategies that they wouldn’t normallyuse (gesture, literal translation) to get their meaning across.

      so this is also were there was the most interaction between the learners which could also influence why there was less anxiety

    3. Hence, in oral communica-tion, it may be that familiarity with the situation (interlocutor, surroundings) ismore crucial in reducing anxiety than the particular features of a task

      And again, I think the scaffold of the information gap might have helped to ease anxiety. Plus they had already done two tasks at that point

    4. Where possible, mean SQ responses from the four case studies

      And this is where the triangulazation does not make sense. Why would four randomly picked (I think?) students represent what the quantitative data said.

    5. This task was con-sidered medium difficulty of the three

      I am thinking that it will be very difficult to decide how I can design a task that isn't too difficult but not too easy either. As they stated above, with increasing difficulty strategy use increases but as we have seen in the other studies, too difficult can also lead to too many breakdowns and hence task abandonment

    6. The qualita-tive analysis from this stage of the study was undertaken to triangulate datacollected with the questionnaire

      My mixed methods professor dislikes when quant and qual ar mixed for triangulation. I can elaborate tomorrow.

    7. They were asked to complete task-based strategy checklists at the end of eachtask

      I like this. I think this notion of perceived use of strategy is interesting in general and goes well with the notion of language awareness. This is similar to the suggestions of what that one participant in the talk was saying that it would be interesting to have them evaluate their strategy use before the training

    1. Because, as will be shown in Table 2below, there was considerable between-group and between-taskvariation in the learners’ language output, for the correlation-based analyses we computed standard scores within each class forboth the independent and dependent variables and used theserather than the raw scores in the computations.

      But doesn't that influence the results?

    2. All the data from the questionnaires were computer coded, andthe number of variables to be analysed was reduced by computingmulti-item variables (scales) by summing the thematicallycorresponding items.

      ah so it was questionnaire with open-ended answers then?

    3. This second measure was includedbecause it was assumed that the successful completion of aproblem-solving, negotiation-based task such as the one we hadused would require a considerable amount of turn-taking to takeplace. In contrast, a hasty and unmotivated solution in which noreal arguments or attempts at persuading the interlocutor areinvolved can be achieved by using very few turns.

      That is also an interesting measurment. I wonder how it relates to c-units

    4. Linguistic self-confidence Factor associated with a favourable self-conception of language aptitude, satisfaction with progress and a belief in one’s ability to succeed in L2 learning; e.g. ‘I am sure I’ll be able to learn English’ (5, .70)

      This is something I really want to have in my questionnaire as well! And again, I still think it would be cool to somehow assess the L1 self as well but I haven't really seen a rationale for that yet

    5. Then the participating students were asked to fill in two self-reportquestionnaires. The first focused on attitudinal/motivational issues,based on Clément, Dörnyei and Noels’s (1994) instrumentspecifically developed for Hungarian learners.

      I assume these are global measurements of motivation?

    6. relationship between motivation and achievement is notstraightforward

      exactly. This is why both, a measurment of the achievement and motivation (by applying the idiodynamic method) is a good idea :)

    7. Willis (1996) argues that task-basedlearning ‘combines the best insights from communicative languageteaching with an organized focus on language form’ (p. 1) andSkehan (1998b) asserts that ‘instruction in which learners are giventasks to complete in the classroom makes the assumption thattransacting tasks in this way will engage naturalistic acquisitionalmechanisms, cause the underlying interlanguage system to bestretched, and drive development forward’

      i like the skehan quote. this combines the interaction of meaning through conversations with native speakers with the nns-nns meaning making that is happening in the classroom

    8. concrete and ‘fine-grained’ level of analysis and one that isconducive both to implementing and combining various differentresearch paradigms

      good to read since I am trying to combine so many different paradigms

    1. n other words, although adult interlocutors seemed to providedifferent amounts and types of feedback, the type of interlocutorseemed to have no effect on the immediate output learnersproduced in response to that feedback

      Mh, so how are we going to justify using different types of interlocutors in my study with adults then?

    2. , the vast majority of feedback did offer oppor-tunities for learners to produce modified output, regardless ofdyad type. In adult dyads, the feedback provided by NNSs wassignificantly more likely to offer such opportunities than wasfeedback provided by NSs

      That's interesting. I wonder if the power imbalance of NS-NNS interaction plays into that.

    3. Still, various researchers have argued that learners'ability to modify their output in response to feedback suggeststhat they have made some use of that feedback.

      This would also be an interesting consequence to observe that comes from using a strategy

    4. earners to modify their output, which, in turn,may promote fluency, automatization of retrieval processes, andsyntactic,ratherthanpurelysemantic,L2

      this is where one could argue that strategies come in handy because they help to ask for modified input

    1. -unit analysis was useful for assess- ing the Japanese EFL students' performance be- cause their discourse consisted of many 1-word utterances and incomplete sentences.

      that's an interesting measurment of fluency

  3. Oct 2021
    1. ows: (a) The quan- tity of speech production was measured by the number of words per c-unit (an utterance, such as a word, phrase, or sentence, that gives refer- ential or pragmatic meaning to interaction [see Brock, 1986]) in each participant's transcript; and (b) the degree to which the parti

      I am not entirely sure what they mean by (b). Maybe we can discuss tomorrow as this sounds interesting

    2. p. Therefore, we can say that the students in the control group were ex- pected to learn English by using the target lan- guage as much as possible in authentic interaction but that they had much less time for refle

      Aha, so the point they're trying to make is that one learned more in an implicit the other in a more explicit way

    3. n the presentation stage, according to an in- structor's guideline, the students recognized the goals and procedures of the new task and dis- cussed through brainstorming sessions basic di- alogues that they were asked to create and the possible OCSs for doing so. D

      Mh, that's not a bad idea. I guess I am just not sure how this is an awareness training?

    4. s. A significant improvement was found among the participants in the strategy train- ing group in the quality and quantity of strategy use and in their overall speech perfo

      It would be interesting how the quality was measured

    5. He examined the teachability of communication strategies by focusing on whether the training of a specific strategy enhanced the quantity and qual- ity of learners' strategy use. His study was con- ducted in high school EFL classes in Hungary over a period of 6 weeks. He used three types of communication strategy: topic avoidance and replacement, circumlocution, and using fillers and hesitation in order to remain in the con

      This might be a good additional read

    6. Therefore, in the training program in this study, the focus was on metacognitive strategies that could enhance the learners' creative use of lan- guage to get meaning across in contexts of au- thentic interactions despite their target language deficienc

      pretty much exactly what I am trying to do

    7. . Thus we may say that the de- gree to which target language data are integrated into a learner's schematic system depends on the learner's awareness of the learning proce

      mmh, do they mean the noticing of the specific features with that?

    8. gies. Bachman (1990) separated strategic competence clearly from language com- petence (knowledge of and about a language) by regarding strategic competence as a capacity that projects language competence into real commu- nication con

      Yes, I agree with that! Proficiency definitely helps with strategies but I think that strategies themselves have to be learned (either by learning by doing, or by teaching)

    1. In MLM designs, we can introduce level 1 predictors (e.g. student characteristics such as motivation) to explain why some students have higher grades than others, and we can introduce level 2 predictors (e.g. teacher effectiveness, classroom technology) to explain why some classes have higher average grades than others.

      can't something similar be done with post hoc tests?

    2. Fortunately, there are techniques under the umbrella of mixture modelling that allow one to model blends of typologies and continuous dimensions

      And what would be the advantage of that instead of just using scales?

    3. For example, the finding of a substantial positive correlation between vocabulary size and shoe size in children would probably disappear once we controlled for age.

      Can we talk about this?

    4. Type I error, or they could specify two unequal means, thus setting up a situation to study power and Type II error.

      I think I remember Type I and Type II error from Birdsong's class. One is falsifying a true hypothesis and the other is the other way around right?

    1. Dörnyei’s (2014) innovative retrodictive qualitative modelling approach. This approach takes the complex system’s observable end state as the starting-point for analysis, and works backwards or retrodictively from this to understand the dynamics of how and why various system com-ponents have ended up in this end state

      Is this basically what MacIntyre did?

    2. t interest in complex dynamic systems theory (CDST) among L2 motivation researchers, the amount of empirical work adopting CDST perspectives remains relatively small

      there could be a niche!

    3. Dörnyei, Z. (2014) Researching complex dynamic systems: ‘Retrodictive qualitative modelling’ in the language classroom. Language Teaching 47 (1), 80–91.

      I will look this up to see if this should go onto our reading list

    4. Dörnyei, Z., MacIntyre, P.D. and Henry, A. (eds) (2015a) Motivational Dynamics in Language Learning. Bristol: Multilingual Matters.

      This is the volume that the MacIntyre article was in and what she (Ushioda) referred to when talking about the dynamic systems theory

    5. In response, Lambert had apparently commented to him that actually ‘the best way to learn about someone’s integrative motivation was prob-ably to sit quietly and chat with him over a bottle of wine for an evening

      I would like to adopt this method for my dissertation.

    1. Using a video-recording and detailed transcript of learner-learner interactions, we may then examine how motivation evolves individually and collectively during task engagement by analysing how processes of motivation are expressed (verbally and non-verbally) and constructed as learners work together, and how such processes of motivation shape (and are shaped by) their efforts to co-regulat

      I am thinking that here, the tool from MacIntyre could work in an oral task involving two or more students. This could show how the other student's answers influence the student's motivation

    2. Relatively little attention has been directed towards examining how the motivation to control strategic thinking develops, and how teachers can scaffold and support this process in their interactions with learners

      I wonder if this could be tied to strategies while speaking (i.e. collocation)

    3. to explore their potential associations with learners’ attentional focus and resources. For example, one might speculate that learners who are strongly motivated by future self-images as fluent L2 speakers may be oriented to notice the range of discourse markers used by fluent communicators to manage the flow of speech

      this sounds like a really interesting project

    4. e general scarcity of published work reporting on classroom-based practitioner-led investigations in this area

      Can we discuss what this means exactly? A classroom-based project?

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    1. At this point, it is an entirely open question whether and in what ways theproficiency/attention interface in L2 pragmatics relates to the motivation/attention interface. There is a possibility that motivation and proficiencymay jointly operate on attention and awareness in pragmatic input; thatis, highly motivated learners with higher proficiency may be superiorin their pragmatic awareness to those with lower motivation and lowerproficiency

      I am curious also about the correlation between motivation and overall proficiency

    2. detection without awareness (i.e.preconscious registration)

      I am not sure, I understand their definition of awarenss (esp. in contrast with detection) here. Is it similar to their definition of orientation?

  5. Sep 2021
    1. Had respondents been choosing courses, deliberating about careers or places to travel, had they been developing friendships or thinking about international adventures, ideal selves and thoughts consistent with the integrative motive seem likely to arise. Future research might use the idiodynamic method to examine, in greater detail, the ways in which activating either of these motives affects task performanc

      This is interesting and kinda speaks to what we were saying how more learner autonomy could influence their motivation

    2. he analytic strategy for RQ1 differs from prior research by reporting quantitative data for individuals and not using group comparisons or correlations for the group of participants.

      And that still counts as quantitative?

    3. The software features an “auto-zero” function that returns the level of the respondent’s rating toward zero at the rate of one point per second if there is no response from the user. This feature requires active responses from the user, unless the user’s motivation is equal to zero.

      I am not sure I fully understand. Did participants really watch their video and rate their motivation every second? That sounds like such a tedious task!

    4. to integrative motivation (Gardner, 2010), task motivation (Julkunen, 2001), the ideal self, the ought-to self, L2 learning experience (Dörnyei, 2009a), and/or motivation from the unique experimental situation

      I noticed that in the other article but it is so odd to me that the researchers use several different frameworks for their qualitative studies. it's almost as if they used "everything that's available" without a clear reason why

    1. Conversely,students who drop-out from German at A2 level may not be aware of the positiveemployment prospects in modern foreign language, as Watts and Pickering (2005: 23)point out.

      That or it is just not enough to sustain motivation throughout the language learning experience

    2. This finding was surprising, as it was in contrast to results of theEuropean Language Proficiency Survey of university students (Coleman 1996),where liking for the L2 came only second as a motivation for studying a foreignlanguage, while instrumental reasons such as career prospects came first

      Mh, but that could also be because the survey likely tested language motivation in Europe in general. Native speakers of English have less incentive to learn a language for instrumental reason. Native speakers of other European languages have much more incentive to do it out of career prospects.

    3. Whether the principal components of the L2 self system, the ideal self and theought-to self, play a role in students’ decisions to study German.(2) Whether intrinsic motivation plays a role in students’ decisions.(3) Whether and to what extent the dimensions of integrativeness andinstrumentality play a role.(4) The relationship between the ideal self, intrinsic motivation and integrative-ness and instrumentality.

      So, I find this interesting because tehy combined three frame works (the L2 motivation self, the socio-psychological framework, and the intrinsic/extrinsic from Noels). I think that all of these frameworks overlap (they also said that, right?), so does it make much sense to investigate all of them at once?

    4. member of an imagined L2 community whose mentalconstruction is partly based on our real-life experiences of members of thecommunity/communities speaking the particular L2 in question and partly on ourimagination’ (Do ̈ rnyei 2005, 102).

      And I think also, partly on what is portrayed in the language classroom/textbook

    5. This is an avenue worth exploring, as muchinsight can be gained from students who actually manage to sustain their motivationall the way through school to university level

      Hah, now I am curious to see how they measured to sustain their motivation. I think some of our students only sustain their motivation because of a language requirement.

    1. supportive environment where feedback enhances their sense ofcompetence in the learning task are likely to be those studentswho learn because it is pleasurable or because it appeals to theirself-concept.

      this is interesting and reminds me of the can-do statements. These should have an effect on creating an autonomy-supportive environment. I wonder if it would be interesting to research how can-do statements influence intrinsic motivation (or if this has been done before)

    2. This pattern might suggest that IM, although related toEM, lies on a continuum separate from EM,6 a possibility thatwarrants more research.

      Could this explain while IM is not necessarily linked to a better outcome as illustrated in the lit review?

    3. discussed by Clément andKruidenier (1983) indicated that, in all cases, the motivationalorientations were negatively correlated with Amotivation (seeTable 3).

      I wonder how the fact that there was so little amotivation influenced the results of the study.

    1. andbook of Individual Differences in Cognition Braver et al. (2010, p. 176) affirm the generally gloomy picture in this area by concluding, “The study of such [motivational] questions using cognitive neuroscience techniques is still in its infancy, but we view this as one of the most promising areas of research to open up in recent years.”

      Maybe we could add something from this area to the reading list. Maybe even from this handbook

    2. Demotivation:

      I know that agency has gained significance over the years which is not exactly demotivation but it is some type of "resistance" towards language learning. I am curious as to someone has linked agency and motivation, before as they seem interrelated

    3. classroom L2 learning motivation is not a static construct as often measured in a quantitative manner, but a compound and relative phenomenon situated in various resources and tools in a dynamic classroom context”

      this reminds of research on WTC using complexity theory that we read in Carl Blyth's class.

    1. specifically forlexis (Laufer & Girsai, 2008; White & Horst, 2012)and grammar (Horst, White, & Bell, 2010; Kupfer-berg, 1999; Spada, Lightbown, & White, 2005)

      Probably worth looking into for the prospectus, right? So, if no one has really looked at it for writing and/or speaking (although I guess they are doing that here), that would be a "niche" right?

    2. roved learners’ speed (online self-paced readingtest) and accuracy (offline sentence judgementtest in reading and listening) o

      I know I should know this by now but could we quickly talk about the difference between online and offline?

    3. tructional effectiveness by studying the outcomesof instruction among learners with differentamounts/types of language exposure and/or L2proficiency. For example, Isabelli (2007) foundthat instruction about the Spanish subjunctivewas more effective for learners who had recentlyreturned from study abroad than for learnerswho had not studied abroad, indicating potentialinteractions between language exposure and/orproficiency and instructional effectiveness

      individual differences :)

    4. This is one likely explanation for why IMP’s ha-bitual function appears to be acquired later thanits ongoing function among English L1 speak-ers: The low validity of English cues for habitu-ality reduces learners’ sensitivity/atte

      To me this makes total sense: The "competing" form for the habitual was the equivalent to what is used in English (simple past and passé composé) vs. the competing form for the ongoing (past progressive) literal does not exist in French so there isn't much to confuse it with, if that makes sense.

    5. Second, prior languageknowledge and experience can influence atten-tion to cues

      Would that be prior language knowledge as in foreign language knowledge or metalinguistic knowledge?

    6. ). Less research has manipu-lated the nature of EI given in the instruction toaddress specific crosslinguistic learnability chal-lenges. One exception is McManus and Marsden(2017, 2018, 2019), who manipulated the type ofEI (and comprehension) practice across condi-tions. The current study addresses this gap by in-troducing L1 EI and L1 practice into L2 instruc-tion

      Why did they not mention other studies who have done language awareness training?

    1. terestingly, while this student (a low achiever) seemed able intuitively to grasp thedeictic nature of first-person pronouns, he maintained the narrow scholarly definition he hadpreviously given, which seemed to hinder the possibility of incorporating this new, more finelygrained feature of pronouns.

      What an awesome example of how these rules of thumbs just are never 100% accurate

    2. The Instructional Sequences focus on grammar issues, either fromwithin the system (e.g., the concept of transitivity, cf. Camps and Zayas 2006) or from writing(e.g., the concept of connectives in argumentation, cf. Camps 2003).

      I am not sure, I understand this distinction. Maybe we can talk about it.

    1. Because the participants in the present ex-periment were beginning learners, it was expected that feedback would supportlearning during testing for all instructional groups;

      Why only beneficial to beginners?

    2. would suggest an advantage for more meaningfulinstruction but it is not clear how this would affect the present results beyondincreasing performance across all similarity conditions, because participants inall groups were likely using both meaning and form information

      I don't think that that's the type of meaning BVP means, right?

    3. Results from ANCOVAs on posttest scores including each of theseas a covariate did not show any significant effect

      And that was their only measurement for working memory right? That is surprising that there was so effect.

    4. We hypothesized that, although all three traininggroups would acquire the rules to some extent, the Rule & Salience Groupwould demonstrate superior ability to verbalize them due to their exposure toexplicit rules during training.

      Isn't that kind of like last time? "Duh" of course they will be able to do that best because they're also the only ones who get exposed to the explicit rules?

    5. Ellis and colleagues (Ellis, 2006; Ellis et al., 2012) furthersuggest that what is noticed or attended to in the L2 input is in turn shaped by thelearner’s L1 background.

      This is what we talked about last time! So someone who has cases in their L1 is more likely to notice them in the L2

    6. Results showed thatexplicit training was associated with higher accuracy in the production of targetforms, particularly in the case of novel exemplars.

      I am getting the feeling that for whichever "team" you root (implicit vs. explicit), you'll find statistical support.

    1. In this exercise, the potential of journalistic texts is explored.

      Have you heard of "genre-based" pedagogy? This is whatt this kind of reminds me off. I always thought of it as pretty limiting but maybe in this scope, it makes sense.

    2. e approached from either formal or communicative viewpoints? To whatextent can such viewpoints be complementary?

      good question for a teacher seminar, don't you think? Often we think it's one or to other but I like the idea of them potentially being complimentary.

    3. It maintains that such research trends, which are of asociocultural orientation, believe that reflexivity fuels language learning and development

      I have never thought about it being from sociocultural theory but it makes sense. Do McManus and Marsden base any of their theories on the sociocultural school of thought?

    4. r teachingin schools. Research Papers

      Not to this part particularly but to the way the lit review is structured: I have never seen a lit review that is separated like that. Is that common?

    5. While it may not lead to studentsautomatically writing better texts, metalinguistic activity does help them to engage in sustaineddiscussion about text choices in the context of text production, something considered of theutmost importance in educating good writers.

      discussion about text choices in L1 right?

  6. Aug 2021
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    1. As Taylor concludes, ‘overgeneralization and transfer learning...appear tobe two distinctive linguistic manifestations ofone psychological process. Thatprocess is oneinvolving prior learning to facilitate new learning.

      But that process is pretty hard to'turn off' in LL isn't it? Your L1 will always interfere right?

    2. A sad irony for an L2 speaker under suchcircumstances of transfer is that more input simply compounds their error;they dig themselves ever deeper into the hole created and subsequentlyentrenched by their L1

      I am not sure I understand this part.

    3. elective attention

      And here I wonder how selective attention is influenced by indvid diffs. Because in my case, I have the desire to sound as native like as possible, my selective attention is probably different from someone who's fine with just getting their message across.

    4. In contrast, when cues were compounded with otherswhich were not particularly informative (cue B), the target cue (D) receiveda normal association with the outcome

      I'm trying to find equivalents for these cues in language learning but I'm having a hard time applying it, esp. for the compounded cues.

    5. his erosion has a particularlydramatic effect in sounds such as suffixes or prefixes that perform importantgrammatical functions. In this way, while Latin had different forms for all sixcombinations of person and number in the present tense, French has justthree different forms for the present tense of ‘-er’ verbs (four for ‘-ir’, ‘-re’,and ‘-oir’ type verbs), and modern English has just two. Thus dopsycholinguistic and associative learning processes in usage affect bothlanguage learning and language change

      A little unrelated but a question regarding salience: would someone whose L1 still has flection perceive flection in an L2 more salient than someone whose L1 is analytical?

    6. he used agreement and animacy cues wheneverpossible, largely ignoring word order when it competed with agreementand animacy. Th

      What would an example of that be? For example, for your "Den Hund beißt die Katze", would they process things like "the dog bites the cat" not only as SVO?

    7. hus a contingency analysis of these cue-interpretation associations suggests that they will not be readily learnable

      Ok, if I understand this correctly. The reason these phenomena are difficult to learn is because there are similar cues that have a different outcome?

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    1. While this information could be provided to students directly by the teacher, it might bemore effective for the teacher to work with the students to help them come up with the rulesgoverning English question formation themselves and discover how these differ from theirL1 rules. Information discovered by the students with the teacher’s help when it is neededmay be easier to remember than information that is simply presented to them

      This is the type of "training" that I am interested in. I'd like to give students incentive to think about their L1 use rather than presenting them with a set of rules.

    2. It might have been more revealing to have conducted the interviewsin two parts: first to ask students about the meaning of the decontextualised words beforeadministering the grammaticality judgement and scrambled questions task.

      Yes but that could have also influenced the result, right? Students would have thought about the metalinguistic rules more, I suppose.

    3. Altogether, the 150 studentparticipants judged 570 of 1500 question items (each student judged 10 questions) to beincorrect. However, they provided a metalinguistic explanation for less than 10% (n=56)of them. Of these, only 15 had anything to do with question formation.

      This I find particularly interesting and something that i notice with our students as well. I am sure they learned question formation with some explicit instruction (unless they learned E in some kind of immersion environment). But even though they learned the rules, it does not seem like they can remember them or apply them.

    4. The third research question focused on the relationship between metalinguistic aware-ness and L2 performance on the tasks. The results suggest that the two variables tendedto operate in tandem. That is, students who were aware of the difference between theirL1 and L2 interrogative systems were better able to correctly judge and construct yes–noand Wh– English questions than students who did not possess such knowledg

      I am not sure I understand which statistical evidence they gathered for this questions?

    5. The word order in more than two thirds of the questions thestudents created reflected two main patterns: declarative word order or ‘fronting’ (placinga Wh– word or auxiliary [usually ‘do’or ‘does’] at the beginning of a declarative sentence).

      Not sure I understand the table. What does the 'correct' column mean? Does that mean out of all of the questions formed, this is how many were actually correct?

    6. That is, re-quiring students to write down their explanations could have limited their willingness ortheir ability to communicate their thoughts.

      Seems like this is where a think-aloud protocol (that is recorded) would make more sense.

    7. Those holding the weak interface position argue that explicit metalinguistic knowl-edge can facilitate the acquisition of implicit knowledge by focusing learners’ attention onlinguistic features in the input (Ellis, 1994).

      Is this basically the noticing hypothesis and/or what processing instruction builds of on?

    8. Given that these studentstend to have comparable representations of the L2 system, interactions between them donot often lead to the need for what Long (1996) and others have referred to as ‘negotiationfor meaning’ in which learners discover errors or gaps in their interlanguage as they seekto make their meaning clear.

      Interesting. This applies to our lower-division classrooms. Would you agree with this statement? I think I have observed a certain negotiation of meaning in oral tasks.