lisaky 11 Jul 2018 in Public https://sayit.archive.tw/2017-10-26-vtaiwan-%E9%86%AB%E5%B8%AB%E5%BF%83%E7%90%86%E5%B8%AB%E9%80%8F%E9%81%8E%E7%B6%B2%E8%B7%AF%E5%B9%B3%E5%8F%B0%E6%8F%90%E4%BE%9B%E5%B0%88%E6%A5%AD%E6%9C%8D%E5%8B%99%E4%B9%8B%E6%B3%95%E8%A6%8F%E8%AA%BF%E9%81%A9%E7%A0%94%E7%A9%B6#s103942 link