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  1. Aug 2024
    1. A key result from our analyses is the high degree of plasticity in bacteria interactions depending on the environmental context.

      The plasticity of interactions is neatly demonstrated here. I wonder if the authors have any intuition about whether this plasticity could be controlled or reduced in more complex communities. In other words, would the presence of more species stabilize the interactions in the community regarding environmental changes?

    2. Exploring the constraints and cooperative potential as microbial communities grow presents a fascinating avenue for further investigation.

      Thank you for this very interesting and clearly presented work! Looking forward to seeing what comes next for more complex communities.

    3. In addition to the essential compounds, we randomly added a fixed number of environmental compounds that could be utilized by at least one of the bacteria (50 additional compounds for smaller environments; or 100 for larger, see Methods: Algorithm for generating environments).

      I am curious to know if some of these random environments are similar to known/relevant ecological niches, and which one? It could be informative to add this information somewhere if available.

    4. We found that the most common default interaction in both collections is neutral (see Fig. 1B), 49% in AGORA and 59% in CarveMe. Of the remaining interactions, we found that the CarveMe collection has more competitive interactions than AGORA and both collections have few cases of cooperation (2% AGORA and 0% CarveMe).

      Have the authors investigated whether the distribution of competition and cooperation interactions shows any correlation with the phylogenetic distance of the species?

    5. The joint environment was created by combining the default environments of the two bacteria such that both were guaranteed to grow.

      When both original environments shared similar compounds, did you add up the concentrations of these compounds, or did you keep the concentration from the original environment with the highest concentration?

  2. Jul 2024
    1. We therefore conclude that evolution at this timescale has not had profound effects on the species’ phenotypes.

      As a general thought, I wonder if, while you don't see a profound effect of evolution on the species phenotype yet and potentially no specific mutant with enough fitness gain to have taken over a species population, the within-species genetic heterogeneity that's likely to be present for each species can influence the global set of interactions and the overall degradation phenotype/ability.

    2. Even though the challenges of ensuring ecological and evolutionary stability remain open, we argue that this first proof-of-concept supports the blind approach to automate the breeding of bacterial communities with optimal functions.

      Thank you for this very interesting study. This represents a considerable amount of experimental work, and the strategy behind the directed evolution is clear and clever.

    3. monoand

      Typo

    4. monoand cocultures

      Typo: this should be mono- and co-cultures

    5. disas-sembly

      Typo?

    6. The best individual degraders were Pf, Ct and At1 (mean degradation: 66%, 58% and 50% respectively), while Af, Ea and At2 were the worst (mean degradation: 2%, 2% and 4% respectively, Fig. 3B, D).

      It is unclear here whether the authors are measuring the degradation activity of the species isolated from the best degrading communities after the 18 rounds or the original species.

    7. At1+Ct+Af+Ac

      Have these species (and any other species) in this work been sequenced?

    8. Overrepresented

      Just a tiny detail, but there are inconsistencies in whether the authors use overrepresented, over-represented, underrepresented or under-represented

    9. overor

      Typo?

    10. 5

      Typo?

    11. 18 times

      Is there a reason behind this choice? Did you want to keep experimenting until you reach a certain degradation score?

    12. extinctions

      Are the species going extinct always the same? If this is the case, I wonder if this could highlight some potential specific physiological features or simply that this species may have been consistently inoculated at a lower concentration. Overall, I think it could be very interesting/informative to mention this information.

    13. Weselected

      Typo: space missing

    14. four species of similar relative abundances.

      While the species have been normalized to the same OD before inoculation, do the authors know if this roughly represents similar cell concentration across species? Are all inoculations close to a 1:1:1:1 ratio?

  3. May 2024
    1. We have introduced a rapid, simple, and inexpensive protocol for assembling all possible combinations of a given set of species using basic laboratory equipment such as a multichannel pipette and 96-well plates.

      Do the authors believe this would still be feasible for communities that need to be grown on solid medium?

    2. We therefore anticipate that our methodology will find extensive applications and utility across diverse fields such as microbiology, ecology, evolution, and biotechnology.

      Thank you for this great work. This seems like a game-changer for assembling microbial communities, and I hope many groups will take advantage of this. The versatility of the approach is really interesting, as the proof of concept with food coloring has illustrated it.

    3. highest biomass contains only three strains

      By 'highest biomass', do the authors mean highest cell density? I wonder if there could be interactions that lead to morphological changes in some strains that could then affect the absorbance reading. In other words, the OD is greater but not because there are more cells but because some cells have weird morphologies.

    4. Samples were incubated still at 37 °C for 40 h, after which the absorbance spectrum of each sample was quantified in the same plate reader we used before.

      I wonder if any biofilm formed at the top or bottom of the wells? Have the cultures been homogenized before absorbance was measured?

    5. capac-ity

      typo

    6. Pseudomonas aeruginosa strains obtained from a previous experiment

      Can the authors give a little more context on the origin of the strains? And if/why a community with these strains could be ecologically relevant?

    7. Binary numbers are the natural way to denote combina-stance, tions in mathematics, and indeed the correspondence between the two sets is often <img class="highwire-embed" alt="Embedded Image" src="https://www.biorxiv.org/sites/default/files/highwire/biorxiv/early/2024/05/05/2024.05.03.592148/embed/inline-graphic-1.gif"/> used in combinatorics. For inof m species. The same number counts how many binary strings of length m contain n ones (equivalently, n zeros).

      There seems to be a couple of typos in this section

    8. thou-sands

      This might just be a typo

    1. Consequently, an increasing number of studies on wine microbial ecology, ranging from investigation on the factors influencing yeast and bacterial diversity in grape must, such as climate and vine management (Bokulich et al., 2014; Grangeteau et al., 2017; Bagheri et al., 2018), to the mechanisms of interactions involved between the different species (Bordet et al., 2020)

      Something seems to be missing in this sentence. Maybe ' Consequently, there has been an increasing number of studies on wine microbial ecology, ranging from investigation on the factors influencing yeast and bacterial diversity in grape must, such as climate and vine management (Bokulich et al., 2014; Grangeteau et al., 2017; Bagheri et al., 2018), to the mechanisms of interactions involved between the different species (Bordet et al., 2020) ' ?

  4. Apr 2024
    1. Nevertheless, our study offers an initial demonstration of the tunability of the lag phase, highlighting the existing gap in our understanding of non-growing bacteria and the mechanisms facilitating their transition into growth.

      Thank you for this very interesting work. The ability of bacteria to survive starvation and adapt to their environment is a very fascinating question.

    2. harvesting methyl groups from host metabolites can provide a cost-effective metabolic shortcut.

      While the authors mention in the introduction that the methyl compounds produced by the algae result from photosynthetic metabolism, I am wondering if there is anything known about other bacteria-algae interactions and whether algae benefit in any way from bacterial interactions.

    3. the number of methyl groups per molecule

      As number of methyl groups seem to impact how the duration of the lag phase decreases, I am wondering if the authors have tried to mix/combined different compounds and see if the total number of methyl groups adds up and shortens the lag phase even more (or reach saturation)?

    4. Based on these calculations, it appears more plausible that methyl groups are assimilated during the lag phase to cover C1 group requirements, while the required ATP is generated from the glucose in the medium

      I am wondering if there is any knowledge about storage compound accumulated by P. inhibens before the starvation phase. It has been previously shown in other organisms that such compounds can help provide the energetic requirements for metabolic switch or exiting lag phase. For instance, glycogen appears to be important for *E. coli * to maintain ATP requirement when switching from a glycolytic to a gluconeogenic metabolism (https://doi.org/10.1128/mbio.01628-17) or primary source of glucose in lag phase (https://doi.org/10.1016/j.bbapap.2012.06.010)

    5. Fig. 3:

      I am wondering if the authors have performed statistical tests for panels A and B to test whether the lag phase is significantly decreased in the presence of the different methylated compounds compared to the control culture. Even if the results are quite clear, it might be appropriate to add some statistical validation.

  5. Mar 2024
    1. he reads were aligned against all merged ancestral reference genomes with no secondary mapping in order to avoid cross-mapping

      I am wondering how genetically different are all the species. How much of the genomes of the species overlap? How much of each species' genome was recovered without cross-mapping?

    2. 1 3-species co-culture, 1 4-species co-culture

      Are the co-cultures inoculated with a 1:1 ratio for each species?

    3. .

      Thank you for this very interesting work. I agree that studying the roles of interactions in microbes' evolution and our ability to predict microbial community evolution is crucial. This works is a very nice contribution to this challenging goal.

    4. as we detected some within-species phenotypic diversity in growth and degradation (Fig. S1, Fig. S2

      FigS1 and FigS2 indeed show the diversity in growth. Is the diversity in degradation an expected phenotype as a consequence of the growth differences? Or is this statement about diversity in degradation associated with a measured trait?

    5. The only mutation present uniquely and repeatedly in CCt was in the acuC gene, which is expected to affect gene expression

      With the sequencing data from the different transfers, is it possible to trace back when the acuC appeared?

    6. But many variants did not fix and remained at intermediate frequencies

      The authors mentioned before that the experiment represents around 300 generations per species. Do they expect to see the fixation of many variations that provide a fitness advantage in 300 generations? Have the authors an idea of what the trajectories would be if they pursued the experiment for another 200 generations, would they see fewer variants with intermediate frequency? 300 generations are already a lot and it took almost a year, so I am just wondering if now that they see these trajectories, they could predict the trajectory for more generations.

    7. Ct accumulated a higher number of variants compared to when it was evolving alone

      Have you characterized the variant population earlier than transfer 11? While Ct accumulated more variations when evolving in the community, how wonder how this compares to the initial population, and how this could inform us about the evolution rate. Also, it could be interesting to see if all the species had a similar diverse population at the beginning and whether it may have influenced the outcome of the experiment.

    8. Table x

      This might be a typo. Is the number of the Table missing?

  6. Feb 2024
    1. GEMs

      It would be interesting here to mention how easy or complex it is to obtain the GEMs for different species and what could be the current challenges or limitations.

    2. The high percentage

      How do these overlaps compare with genome similarity? Have the authors evaluated whether the species with the highest nutritional overlap are the ones with the highest genome similarity (or GEMs)?

    3. We generated DiMEs for G. sulfurreducens and R. ferrireducens

      While it is mentioned in the Methods section that the GEMs for these species have been obtained from the literature, it could be interesting to mention it here too and maybe give a little more detail about the these GEMs

  7. Jan 2024
    1. Our simplified model community provides a mechanistic explanation of how cooperation-driven multistability can be generated in multispecies contexts.

      Thank you for this very interesting study. The work is well explained and the high quality of the figures makes this work very enjoyable to read.

    2. replicate communities

      Is the total number of replicates n=6 as suggested in Figure 1c?

    3. We showed that competing a six-species community at equal initial abundances leads to substantial outcome variability among replicates.

      All the experiments have been carried out in liquid medium, while the natural environment of this microcosm might be closer to a solid environment. It could be interesting for the authors to briefly comment whether they would expect similar observations for growth on solid medium where microbial community structure might be important.

    4. After five growth cycles

      It is mentioned in the Methods section, that OD was measured at the end of each cycle. Do the authors observe any interesting patterns of OD depending on the community composition outcomes?

    5. we selected a set of six cross-kingdom species that includes both commensals and pathogens found in the human respiratory tract as a model system

      While this is briefly addressed in the Discussion section, it could be interesting to have a little more context about the choice of these species and their ecology. It could also be informative to know if (or how) the inoculation ratios used here would are representative of the natural community.

  8. Dec 2023
    1. Our results show that, despite their beneficial role during health, the application of native human and mouse skin commensals to damaged skin delays healing by exacerbating inflammation and prolonging proliferation.

      While these results have been observed for native human and mouse skin commensals, I wonder if people expect the same results if the damaged skin was treated with 'self-microbiome' (microbiome or single species formerly isolated from the wounded animal itself) ? Is there any precedent of such study? I wonder if somebody's immune system adapts to its own microbiome and vice-versa. Thus, introducing bacterial species, even if commensal but non from the host, could lead to specific immune response and /or bacterial adaptation to a new environment leading to inflammation and delayed healing.

    2. all tested human skin commensal microbes significantly delayed healing relative to controls

      I am curious to know if the authors had considered using combinations of different species in addition to single species. While single species don't seem to improve healing, do they expect that combination of species would yield a similar output? Because microbial communities phenotypes are rarely the sum of individual phenotypes thanks to microbial interactions, I wonder if healing would be improved or at least no delayed when using a mix of commensal species.

    3. These results show that the detrimental effect of microbial exposure on barrier repair is not common to all bacteria applied to damaged skin and appears to be limited to skin commensals and opportunistic pathogens.

      I am curious to know if the authors have measured, for all the tested strains, the growth and survival at wound site. Did E. coli grow well and did not delay the healing, or is it just because it did not grow, or not as much as the other species?

  9. Nov 2023
    1. In the current study, we show that microbial ecology can affect antibiotic persistence. Our work highlights that microbial interactions and spatial structure can generate emergent increase in individual heterogeneity.

      Thank you for this very interesting work that addresses fascinating abilities of bacteria (microbial interactions, phenotypic heterogeneity and antibiotic persistence).

    2. In this work, we demonstrated that cross-feeding in a spatially-structured environment can increase antibiotic persistence by 32∼100-fold in both the mutualistic E. coli and S. enterica as compared to the monocultures

      This is a very nice and clear conclusion. Yet this has been only performed for 1 mutualistic 2-species community and for a single antibiotic. It would be interesting to know the authors' rational about choosing this antibiotic specifically, and why not extending these assays to different antibiotics and/or communities (yet I understand this is not that easy to find tractable mutualistic communities). Also, would the authors expect that this observation to be independent on the type of antibiotic?

    3. dynamical loss of access to nutrient” (DLAN)

      This is a very interesting observation. Do the authors have ideas/suggestions about the molecular mechanism/response? Would antibiotic persistence be associated with a broad stress response (like stress response, stringent response, entry to stationary phase for instance?), or do they expect it to be a more specific mechanism? Would there be a way to use microscopy to see if such broad responses are activated in persistent cells?

    4. replicate

      How many time point and total replicates were used in the experiment?

  10. Oct 2023
    1. impact gut health

      Thank you for this elegant study. The text is clearly written and the figures are really nice. Looking forward to reading follow up work from this!

    2. require high concentrations of iron for growth

      Does T.mu possess specific molecules that act like iron chelators (like siderophores?)

    3. altered gut bacterial composition

      We can clearly see on Fig.1d that indeed the proportion of different phyla is altered in the presence of T. mu. I am wondering, if, at the species level, T. mu is affecting what species are present or if T. mu is not really affecting what species are present but mostly affecting their distribution/proportion?

  11. Sep 2023
    1. This study reveals previously unrecognized phylogenetic diversity of commensal protists in the Parabasalia phylum in both mice and humans.

      Thanks a lot for this very interesting and exciting work. It is super motivating to see studies of understudied (and under appreciated) microbes and get to see how important they are in microbial communities. Also, the work is very clear and pleasant to read. Congratulations on this great work.

    2. Therefore, identifying microbes eliminated by tritrichomonad colonization could offer insights into the preferred nutritional niches of these protists.

      While the data strongly suggest that competition between specific bacterial species and the protist is associated with Tmu and Tc establishing in the gut, I am curious to know if the authors know if these two protist could actually graze on gut bacteria as well. Would that be possible to carry out some assays, especially now that the authors have developed a method to grow them in vitro , to test whether the Tmu and Tc actually graze on bacteria ; Assays comparing nutrient degradation rates of the protist species and the bacterial species could also be interesting to further confirm the hypothesis of nutrient competition, though it of course depends on the actual ability to growth these gut bacteria in vitro.

    3. Together, these results demonstrate that a large amount of unappreciated diversity exists among human-associated commensal parabasalids and are consistent with previous studies suggesting that industrialization is associated with decreased diversity of microeukaryotes in the microbiome

      This is really exciting data. I wonder if, using these metagenomes data, the authors had the opportunity to investigate co-occurrence (or co-exclusion) of protist and bacterial or fungal species of the gut microbiome, and whether we can expect strong signal of species co-occurrence.

  12. Aug 2023
    1. and studies in mammalian models will be important to further characterize the in vivo potential of NR-6226C

      While this compound seems to be a good candidate for new antifungal therapy, I wonder how it could also impact the local microbiome (skin, gut, vaginal... depending on the infection + delivery method) - iron is crucial for (beneficial) microbes growth and is involved in microbial interactions. Do the author know if such antifungal therapy could interact with the local microbiome? It could be interesting/important to include such considerations in further studies and tests with this compound.

    2. ColA reduced the proliferation of all pathogenic yeasts tested

      Looking at the Method section and the Figure legend, it seems that proliferation assays are OD-based. I am curious to know if the authors know (from this assay or complementary assay) if the the proliferation is reduced because cells are actually killed, or they are still alive but not dividing. Has a complementary dead/live assay been considered or performed? Or is it not necessary?

  13. Jul 2023
    1. Regardless of the underlying mechanism, both the metagenomic profiles and the functional experiments demonstrate that the the final community classes are not just alternative taxonomic variants providing the same functional outcome, but that the divergent community classes translate into significant functional differences. The two final classes are therefore unlikely to result from neutral community drift.

      This is a very elegant demonstration.

    2. Final Class 1 communities had higher degradation rates and enzymatic activity

      This is great to have measured the functional performance. Do we know how this compare to the 'natural' performance in the ponds?

    3. This analysis suggested that the 2 community classes were associated with distinct modes of nutrient uptake

      If the authors have any metagenomic information about the original or in situ sample (the one directly from the pound, that would be nice to compare with the domesticated community how this has changed.

    4. re-grown repeatedly

      Does this mean that 4 replicates have been grown for 7 days (without transfer) for each sample (and for a single round), or that each replicate has been grown for multiple consecutive rounds of 7 days to check stability of the community composition?

    5. We quantified the taxonomic composition of the communities before they were revived from cryopreservation (starting communities) and their composition and functioning at the end of the experiment (final communities), allowing us understand their reproducibility and trajectory and therefore their potential for domestication.

      Looking at Figure 1, it seems that the authors have taken samples that were initially grown for 7 days before cryopreservation. I wonder how this growth period has affected the initial composition of the community, and how many species may have been lost in the process. Do the authors have that information? Maybe not for all samples as this would be a lot. Can the authors maybe elaborate about why they chose to carry out such initial growth rather than re-suspending the sample in buffer and cryopreserving the sample directly?

    6. co-occurring biota

      Is the microbial community of this environment uniquely bacteria? I wonder if other microorganisms such as fungi or protists are also parts of the microbial ecosystems and how much they interact with the bacterial community and the beech degradation function? What is the authors rational behind domesticating only bacteria?

    7. We quantified the taxonomic composition of the communities before they were revived

      Cryopreservation may have affected the community composition. Have the authors also looked at the community just after thawing the sample, to have an idea of the 'living' composition of the starting community? Would this be an important information to have to control or understand the process of reproducible domestication?

  14. Jun 2023
    1. Numerous transcripts and exometabolite were non-additive in the 3-member community, suggesting that predictions of members outcomes in more complex communities will not always be a simple summation of pairwise outcomes.

      Very nice example of non additivity of interactions. Thanks!

    2. We observed relatively unchanged viability in B. thailandensis

      I feel like the information of species viability in the different conditions could be mentioned at the beginning of the results and be an actual figure (not only a supplementary figure). I think it is an important level of information about interaction and gives more material and information to understand and interpret the RNASeq and Metabolomic data.

    3. Because member populations are physically separated in the SynCom transwell system but allowed to interact chemically, observed transcript responses in different community memberships are inferred to result from exometabolite interactions.

      This is a very neat and clever system.

    4. When included in the community, B. thailandensis strongly determined the transcript profiles of the other two members

      When multiple species are together, are their stationary phase synchronized? I am wondering whether one species would be in early stationary phase or still growth phase while the other species are already in stationary phase and how this would affect interpretation of the results.

    5. Our aim was for each member to achieve stationary phase at similar times across all conditions to compare transcripts and exometabolites under similar growth trajectories.

      Does that mean that each species would reach stationary phase after the same time independently of the presence of another species so the time point for RNASeq would match? In other, were the glucose concentrations set so that each species keep a similar growth rate in each condition?

    6. in stationary phase

      The question of stationary phase is very interesting here. I have a couple of questions about how the authors define/characterize stationary phase in their system ? While stationary phase usually means no observation of active growth, do the authors know whether this is thanks to cell maintenance or a balanced ratio between cell death and cell division? - would one or the other explanation modify the interpretation of their results, as each scenario could be driven by very different metabolic states?

  15. May 2023
    1. showing that there was competition for LA.

      Have the authors looked at the interaction between both species in the absence of LA? I am wondering if other nutrients may actually be driving the competition, and to what extend the competition for LA would is actually the underlying mechanism for At growth inhibition.

    1. that bacterial avoidance of parasites may only rarely, if ever, be selected for

      Depending on the motility mechanism (flagellum, versus gliding etc...) of the bacteria, I am wondering if this is easier/faster to evolve resistance (for instance mutation of the phage receptor) versus improving motility through modification of the motility apparatus? Would it take more mutations do evolve better motility? Have the authors any thoughts on this, or idea whether this could be a potential explanation?

    2. solated five evolved bacterial clones

      Have the authors considered doing whole genome sequencing of these 5 isolates to narrow down the mutations associated with these evolved lineages? Or based on the observed evolved phenotypes, can the authors thing of potential gene candidates to investigate mutations associated with the observed resistance. I am wondering if, even if you only see evolution of resistance and not of dispersal activity, this would be associated with similar mutations regardless of the experimental setup or whether we could expect a different mechanism of resistance between local and global phage distribution.

    3. .

      Very simple question: does the 5X on Figure 1 means each experiment has been performed in 5 replicates? Also, during the propagation, was each plate propagated to a single plate?

  16. Apr 2023
    1. emergent functional properties

      I believe 'emergent functional properties' can have multiple definitions. One definition is 'any functional property that is only observed in the community context and never in single organisms' and another, maybe broader definition, is 'any functional property observed in the community that cannot be predicted as the sum of individual behavior/function alone'. I assume this is the latest definition that is implied in this study, but it would be helpful to state it clearly.

    2. ecological contexts

      Have the authors any ideas/thoughts about contexts that involved less metabolism related function like the community response to a perturbation (invader, predator, antimicrobial compound, temperature change, radiation...). If the function outcome that is measured is community biomass or individual species abundance, can we expect low-order approximations of landscape to work well as for the biomass prediction demonstrated in this work?

    3. The approach we have demonstrated could enable the design of communities in a wide range of contexts, from biotechnology to therapeutics.

      This is really exciting and really promising. Very interesting and clear work!

    4. The approach we have demonstrated could enable the design of communities in a wide range of contexts, from biotechnology to therapeutics.

      This is really exciting and really promising. Very interesting and clear work!

    5. ecological contexts

      Have the authors any ideas/thoughts about contexts that involved less metabolism related function like the community response to a perturbation (invader, predator, antimicrobial compound, temperature change, radiation...). If the function outcome that is measured is community biomass or individual species abundance, can we expect low-order approximations of landscape to work well as for the biomass prediction demonstrated in this work?

    6. emergent functional properties

      I believe 'emergent functional properties' can have multiple definitions. One definition is 'any functional property that is only observed in the community context and never in single organisms' and another, maybe broader definition, is 'any functional property observed in the community that cannot be predicted as the sum of individual behavior/function alone'. I assume this is the latest definition that is implied in this study, but it would be helpful to state it clearly.

    1. Table S1

      If the species of the community can be organized into niches (within the niche network mentioned in the first comment), it could also be informative to represent them organized as such, to eventually see where the species whose abundance is impacted by the presence/absence of Cs and Ch are directly or indirectly metabolically connected to them

    2. a niche rather than an individual strain.

      If the gut microbiome can be divided into niches (or a network of niches), do the authors know how many ‘niches’ can thus be defined (in the model community used in the paper), how they are connected and how would the bile acid niche fit into such network?

    3. cholic acid

      Where do CA and DCA come from in the gut or in the synthetic community?

    4. In light of these results,

      This work and these results are really interesting and exciting. This whole story and its conclusions could nicely be summarized into a diagram to make it even easier to navigate and understand.

    5. Figure 2D

      How do the authors controlled for the species inoculation level? Inoculation level of a given species can also impact its final relative abundance. While in the Methods it seems that the inoculations are all done from the same species pools, aliquots have been frozen and thawed before inoculation, while the metagenomic analysis of the pool has been performed before freezing. So I am wondering if this could have introduced some inoculation differences and how the authors distinguish between potential inoculation effect versus interaction effect when comparing the relative abundance of the same species in the hCom1a experiment and the double dropout for instance? Would a comparison of abundance fold change (between Cecum and Inoculum) between 2 conditions lead to the same conclusions? For instance: comparing the abundance fold change of Ruminococcus obeum between Cecum and inoculum of the hCom1a condition to Ro abundance fold change (Cecum versus inoculum) in the double dropout condition.

    6. fold change >100

      What motivated the decision of FC > 100?

    7. An unexpected impact of Cs on aromatic amino acid metabolism

      Have the authors considered looking at metatranscriptome modifications and untargeted metabolites profiles? That could provide an even broader insight into the modifications following the suppression of 1 or 2 strains, that may or may not lead to such drastic changes in community composition but rather in species physiology.

    8. Ruminococcus obeum (Ro), Ruminococcus bromii (Rb), Mitsuokella multacida (Mm), Roseburia intestinalis (Ri), and Eubacterium ventriosum (Ev) decreased

      Are these species part of the same niches? Are they part of upstream or downstream niches? Replacing them in a metabolic network could be interesting to highlight potential interactions.

    1. at the bottom

      Since the authors are mentioning the species that degrade the chitin, reaction from which the rest of the trophic chain will cascade, shouldn't that be 'at the top' of the trophic hierarchy instead?

    2. (Figure 4).

      It is known that growth rate directly impacts gene expression, and that sometimes, gene expression changes between two conditions are simply connected to a decreased growth rate in the studied condition. I am wondering if there would be a way to sort out the genes that are associated with differential expression between genes whose expression change is likely related to growth rate effect versus genes whose expression changes are not (based on information that can be found in the litterature).

    1. 6 hours prior to the target strain

      Have the authors considered or tried using spent supernatant from these 4 strains (instead of directly inoculating the strains)? It could be interesting to compare the effects of spent supernatant versus the presence of actual species to see if they mostly compare to the '6 hour prior to the target strain' or if they are pretty different.

    2. microbial community interactions

      Eventually, if the authors want to measure/map the interactions within microbial communities using uCI, have the authors tested whether the effects of 3 species inoculated in 3 different variable wells connected to the same target strain are the same effect on the target strain than if 3 species were inoculated together in the same variable well. I believe that having the 3-species mixed together and associated interactions would lead to a different growth outcome for the target strain (and might be more representative of the original natural ecosystem). It is quite nice that the uCI platform offers the opportunity to explore such questions (whether community effects are the sum of more simple effects) and help decipher higher-order interactions.

    1. Such high-resolution chromosomal barcoding techniques

      It could be informative to specify where the barcodes have been introduced in E. coli's genomes. While this information can be found in the paper mentioned as reference 24, this information is worth restating here to prevent confusion with barcoded gene disruption libraries (for instance RB-TNSeq libraries).

    2. successfully colonized

      To help understand the different statements and conclusions about successful and unsuccessful colonization, the authors could define clearly what they mean 'colonization'. It is clear for the im cohort that E. coli doesn't survive, however what are the criteria to differentiate between a transient population versus an established population, especially in regards to the transit time in the mice gut.

    3. One mouse

      Have the authors characterized the microbiome of all the mice at T0 before the E. coli gavage to identify any different starting points in terms of community composition that could potentially influence the outcome of the colonization (for instance the presence of a couple of specific species that could promote horizontal gene transfer)

    4. linage
      • lineage ?
    1. A considerable number of pairs coexisted at a low abundance (coexistence at 5% or 95%, each is 17/171=9.9% and 18/171=10.5%) but we could not detect negative frequency dependence. Interestingly, neutral coexistence among isolated pairs also occurred but was rare, with four pairs of species exhibiting dynamics that did not rule out neutrality

      While the authors mention that the fraction of pairs exhibiting exclusion is consistent across communities independently of their richness, is there any pattern between coexistence scenarios highlighted in Figure 3 and community richness?

    1. 96 hours post venom milking

      Maybe the authors could clarify why they chose to look at gene expression 4 days after milking.

  17. Mar 2023
  18. Feb 2023
    1. linage
      • lineage ?
    2. One mouse

      Have the authors characterized the microbiome of all the mice at T0 before the E. coli gavage to identify any different starting points in terms of community composition that could potentially influence the outcome of the colonization (for instance the presence of a couple of specific species that could promote horizontal gene transfer)

    3. successfully colonized

      To help understand the different statements and conclusions about successful and unsuccessful colonization, the authors could define clearly what they mean 'colonization'. It is clear for the im cohort that E. coli doesn't survive, however what are the criteria to differentiate between a transient population versus an established population, especially in regards to the transit time in the mice gut.

    4. Such high-resolution chromosomal barcoding techniques

      It could be informative to specify where the barcodes have been introduced in E. coli's genomes. While this information can be found in the paper mentioned as reference 24, this information is worth restating here to prevent confusion with barcoded gene disruption libraries (for instance RB-TNSeq libraries).

  19. Dec 2022
    1. A considerable number of pairs coexisted at a low abundance (coexistence at 5% or 95%, each is 17/171=9.9% and 18/171=10.5%) but we could not detect negative frequency dependence. Interestingly, neutral coexistence among isolated pairs also occurred but was rare, with four pairs of species exhibiting dynamics that did not rule out neutrality

      While the authors mention that the fraction of pairs exhibiting exclusion is consistent across communities independently of their richness, is there any pattern between coexistence scenarios highlighted in Figure 3 and community richness?

  20. Nov 2022
    1. microbial community interactions

      Eventually, if the authors want to measure/map the interactions within microbial communities using uCI, have the authors tested whether the effects of 3 species inoculated in 3 different variable wells connected to the same target strain are the same effect on the target strain than if 3 species were inoculated together in the same variable well. I believe that having the 3-species mixed together and associated interactions would lead to a different growth outcome for the target strain (and might be more representative of the original natural ecosystem). It is quite nice that the uCI platform offers the opportunity to explore such questions (whether community effects are the sum of more simple effects) and help decipher higher-order interactions.

    2. 6 hours prior to the target strain

      Have the authors considered or tried using spent supernatant from these 4 strains (instead of directly inoculating the strains)? It could be interesting to compare the effects of spent supernatant versus the presence of actual species to see if they mostly compare to the '6 hour prior to the target strain' or if they are pretty different.

  21. Oct 2022
    1. (Figure 4).

      It is known that growth rate directly impacts gene expression, and that sometimes, gene expression changes between two conditions are simply connected to a decreased growth rate in the studied condition. I am wondering if there would be a way to sort out the genes that are associated with differential expression between genes whose expression change is likely related to growth rate effect versus genes whose expression changes are not (based on information that can be found in the litterature).

    2. at the bottom

      Since the authors are mentioning the species that degrade the chitin, reaction from which the rest of the trophic chain will cascade, shouldn't that be 'at the top' of the trophic hierarchy instead?

  22. Sep 2022
    1. In light of these results,

      This work and these results are really interesting and exciting. This whole story and its conclusions could nicely be summarized into a diagram to make it even easier to navigate and understand.

    2. An unexpected impact of Cs on aromatic amino acid metabolism

      Have the authors considered looking at metatranscriptome modifications and untargeted metabolites profiles? That could provide an even broader insight into the modifications following the suppression of 1 or 2 strains, that may or may not lead to such drastic changes in community composition but rather in species physiology.

    3. Ruminococcus obeum (Ro), Ruminococcus bromii (Rb), Mitsuokella multacida (Mm), Roseburia intestinalis (Ri), and Eubacterium ventriosum (Ev) decreased

      Are these species part of the same niches? Are they part of upstream or downstream niches? Replacing them in a metabolic network could be interesting to highlight potential interactions.

    4. fold change >100

      What motivated the decision of FC > 100?

    5. Figure 2D

      How do the authors controlled for the species inoculation level? Inoculation level of a given species can also impact its final relative abundance. While in the Methods it seems that the inoculations are all done from the same species pools, aliquots have been frozen and thawed before inoculation, while the metagenomic analysis of the pool has been performed before freezing. So I am wondering if this could have introduced some inoculation differences and how the authors distinguish between potential inoculation effect versus interaction effect when comparing the relative abundance of the same species in the hCom1a experiment and the double dropout for instance? Would a comparison of abundance fold change (between Cecum and Inoculum) between 2 conditions lead to the same conclusions? For instance: comparing the abundance fold change of Ruminococcus obeum between Cecum and inoculum of the hCom1a condition to Ro abundance fold change (Cecum versus inoculum) in the double dropout condition.

    6. cholic acid

      Where do CA and DCA come from in the gut or in the synthetic community?

    7. Table S1

      If the species of the community can be organized into niches (within the niche network mentioned in the first comment), it could also be informative to represent them organized as such, to eventually see where the species whose abundance is impacted by the presence/absence of Cs and Ch are directly or indirectly metabolically connected to them

    8. a niche rather than an individual strain.

      If the gut microbiome can be divided into niches (or a network of niches), do the authors know how many ‘niches’ can thus be defined (in the model community used in the paper), how they are connected and how would the bile acid niche fit into such network?