On 2020-03-05 11:51:10, user Luna Liu wrote:
If the ACE2 receptor can also mediate the entry of SARS into human cells, would it be useful to review the survivals of SARS and check if their kidney function and fertility?
On 2020-03-05 11:51:10, user Luna Liu wrote:
If the ACE2 receptor can also mediate the entry of SARS into human cells, would it be useful to review the survivals of SARS and check if their kidney function and fertility?
On 2020-03-07 23:15:22, user Jens Schertler wrote:
Thanks for the publication!
On 2020-03-08 13:41:12, user White Blabbit wrote:
Could be the vaccines. Could also be that the normal disadvantage of immune system naiveté is removed since the Novel virus has never been seen in earth before. That paves the way for children's naturally more robust bodies (otherwise) to have a superior ability to fend off the deleterious effects of the virus.
On 2020-03-25 14:52:42, user Arturo Tozzi cns wrote:
Here you are a more focused writing on the issue of COVIFD-19/ mandatory childhood vaccinations: https://science.sciencemag....
On 2020-03-09 23:09:42, user Sasha Bruno wrote:
What was the total sample size analyzed? ...If it was solely data from “101 confirmed cases in 38 provinces, regions, and countries outside of Wuhan” that’s a statistically small sampling.
On 2020-03-17 03:45:06, user God Bennett wrote:
I foresaw this from February 9th, having started an ai based ct scan initiative:
On 2020-03-17 19:53:18, user B. Lee Drake wrote:
Did the authors do any cross-validation? Machine learning should always have a data-split of 10-30% to evaluate the models generalizability. This is important and immediately consequential work - very much need to see some detail on how these models performed - it is not clear from the paper itself.
On 2020-03-22 20:13:37, user Sinai Immunol Review Project wrote:
This study retrospectively evaluated clinical, laboratory, hematological, biochemical and immunologic data from 21 subjects admitted to the hospital in Wuhan, China (late December/January) with confirmed SARS-CoV-2 infection. The aim of the study was to compare ‘severe’ (n=11, ~64 years old) and ‘moderate’ (n=10, ~51 years old) COVID-19 cases. Disease severity was defined by patients’ blood oxygen level and respiratory output. They were classified as ‘severe’ if SpO2 93% or respiratory rates 30 per min.
In terms of the clinical laboratory measures, ‘severe’ patients had higher CRP and ferritin, alanine and aspartate aminotransferases, and lactate dehydrogenase but lower albumin concentrations.
The authors then compared plasma cytokine levels (ELISA) and immune cell populations (PBMCs, Flow Cytometry). ‘Severe’ cases had higher levels of IL-2R, IL-10, TNFa, and IL-6 (marginally significant). For the immune cell counts, ‘severe’ group had higher neutrophils, HLA-DR+ CD8 T cells and total B cells; and lower total lymphocytes, CD4 and CD8 T cells (except for HLA-DR+), CD45RA Tregs, and IFNy-expressing CD4 T cells. No significant differences were observed for IL-8, counts of NK cells, CD45+RO Tregs, IFNy-expressing CD8 T and NK cells.
Several potential limitations should be noted: 1) Blood samples were collected 2 days post hospital admission and no data on viral loads were available; 2) Most patients were administered medications (e.g. corticosteroids), which could have affected lymphocyte counts. Medications are briefly mentioned in the text of the manuscript; authors should include medications as part of Table 1. 3) ‘Severe’ cases were significantly older and 4/11 ‘severe’ patients died within 20 days. Authors should consider a sensitivity analysis of biomarkers with the adjustment for patients’ age.
Although the sample size was small, this paper presented a broad range of clinical, biochemical, and immunologic data on patients with COVID-19. One of the main findings is that SARS-CoV-2 may affect T lymphocytes, primarily CD4+ T cells, resulting in decreased IFNy production. Potentially, diminished T lymphocytes and elevated cytokines can serve as biomarkers of severity of COVID-19.
This review was undertaken as part of a project by students, postdocs and faculty at the Immunology Institute of the Icahn school of medicine, Mount Sinai.
On 2020-03-23 03:14:09, user Wen Minneng wrote:
Your conclusion is wrong. Both weather and public intervention could impact on the number of cases. How much does weather impact? How much does public intervention could impact?
On 2020-03-23 09:26:33, user Eric Henderson wrote:
Edit line 143 with correct sample age range if known.
On 2020-03-23 18:07:21, user Sinai Immunol Review Project wrote:
Summary:<br /> In an attempt to use standard laboratory testing for the discrimination between “Novel Coronavirus Infected Pneumonia” (NCIP) and a usual community acquired pneumonia (CAP), the authors compared laboratory testing results of 84 NCIP patients with those of a historical group of 316 CAP patients from 2018 naturally COVID-19 negative. The authors describe significantly lower white blood- as well as red blood- and platelet counts in NCIP patients. When analyzing differential blood counts, lower absolute counts were measured in all subsets of NCIP patients. With regard to clinical chemistry parameters, they found increased AST and bilirubin in NCIP patients as compared to CAP patients.
Critical analysis:<br /> The authors claim to describe a simple method to rapidly assess a pre-test probability for NCIP. However, the study has substantial weakpoints. The deviation in clinical laboratory values in NCIP patients described here can usually be observed in severely ill patients. The authors do not comment on how severely ill the patients tested here were in comparison to the historical control. Thus, the conclusion that the tests discriminate between CAP and NCIP lacks justification.
Importance and implications of the findings in the context of the current epidemics:<br /> The article strives to compare initial laboratory testing results in patients with COVID-19 pneumonia as compared to patients with a usual community acquired pneumonia. The implications of this study for the current clinical situation seem restricted due to a lack in clinical information and the use of a control group that might not be appropriate.
On 2020-03-26 15:14:37, user rx21825 wrote:
Does anyone know of data relating viral titre and symptoms? A qualitative assessment of viral presence is acceptable for clinical diagnosis but a quantitative assessment of viral load would enhance understanding of the drugs efficacy. In general terms and for ANY influenza infection, is the relationship of of viral titre and symptoms know?
On 2020-03-28 15:28:38, user timpin wrote:
Well, we'll soon know if this is correct. By my estimates there will be 7000 dead in the UK in 9 days time...
On 2020-03-30 22:55:25, user Pau Corral wrote:
None of the scenarios take into account immunity against second infection, or do they?
On 2020-03-31 00:14:04, user Alex wrote:
Have you analyzed West and East Germany?
On 2020-04-01 16:36:48, user japhetk wrote:
The study seems interesting.
However, the problems of this study's analyses, are as mentioned in the comments, <br /> they are not controlling when the infection spread in the country.
Other analyses are controlling that (for example, number of patients (or
deaths) 10 days after the 100th patients were detected, was used as a dependent measure).
Also, probably, the most accurate available BCG measure is "how long the country has advanced the BCG vaccination measure" (the year when the country stopped the BCG vaccination (or now, when the BCG vaccination is currently conducted in the country) - the <br /> year when the country started it). The current measure is not indicative as authors indicated.
I controlled these measures and have done the analyses.
The results were as follows.<br /> The partial correlation between "how long the country has advanced the BCG vaccination measure" and number of patients in the 10th day (when 1st day is 100th patients were detected in the country) after controlling the population of the country. P = 0.455, partial correlation coefficient = -0.116
The partial correlation between "how long the country has advanced the BCG vaccination measure" and number of deaths in the 10th day (when 1st day is the 100th patients were <br /> detected in the country) after controlling the population of the country. P = 0.111, partial correlation coefficient = -0.243
But the partial correlation between "how long the country has advanced the BCG vaccination measure" and when the 100th patients were detected in the country after controlling the population of the country was P = 0.078, partial correlation coefficient = 0.281.
Also "how long the country has advanced the BCG vaccination measure" is <br /> robustly and negatively correlated with GDP of the country after controlling the population of the country (p = 0.019, partial correlation coefficient: -0.292).
Also "how long the country has advanced the BCG vaccination measure" is robustly and negatively correlated with how fast the 100th patients were detected in the country (p = 0.078, partial correlation coefficient: 0.281).
But the correlation between GDP of the country and when the 100th patients were detected in the country after controlling population of the country was more robust (P = 0.001, partial correlation coefficient = -0.438).
And the correlation between "how long the country has advanced the BCG vaccination measure" and when the 100th patients were detected in the country disappeared when the population and GDP is also controlled (p = 0.322).
The partial correlation between "how long the country has advanced the BCG vaccination measure" and number of deaths in the 10th day after controlling the population and GDP of the country was P = 0.178, partial correlation coefficient = -0.210.
So, my guess is probably, there are number of spurious correlations happening in authors' analyses due to lack of important control variables, even if there are real correlations, they apparently should not be that strong (studies of the BCG's universal effects have not <br /> indicated such things either).
In Korea, China, Japan (diamond princess), the virus infected a lot of people in some regions or situations, too.
The countries of higher GDP can do more tests, they are more popular to the tourists from Asia, but they were perhaps less inclined to use masks, they were confident of their medical system and less alert. And those are the countries where BCG was "no longer necessary".
Remember one month ago, the coronavirus is an infectious disease of Asian people. Now it is an infectious disease of Western countries, who knows if it is not the disease of developing countries in the next few months.
On 2020-04-01 22:04:32, user Mr. Andrew wrote:
Singapore, Taiwan, Hong kong are litterally next to China and have only double digit death rates, all added, in total. WHY? All vaccinate their kids for BCG versus Tuberculosis. It's not a coincidence, all other countries do not vaccinate for it. Other BCG Vaccinating countries: Romania, Malaysia, Thailand..
check this map bellow (in the link) of countries which never had BCG. In entire Europe, Italy is the only one which never had BCG vaccination. Thus, they have a huge deathrate.
https://www.researchgate.ne...
This is further proved by all countries with BCG at birth. Check out all countries and how bad they are doing with covid 19 by looking at their death rate and serious critical numbers, at the official WHO numbers: https://www.worldometers.in...
Till now all countries which have BCG at birth have extremely low death rate and people in serious critical condition, but huge infection rate (thus small percentage). Singapore, Taiwan Hong Kong were infected way back before Italy was infected.
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Lets tell people about BCG and pressure more research on this, and if it actually is helpful give every other country which did not get it at birth: a shot. It might be a cure, I am predicting but the data does not lie.It provides viral immunity although its meant for bacteria. As your lungs are stronger. The data shows something, and look at all the countries death rate and serious critical numbers versus infected.
They are soo exceptionally good compared to all others like x30 times better. Would like your help to spread the word of BCG and more research to be done. So countries like Italy which never where vaccinated would get a shot. (the U.S is next, as they never vaccinated for BCG)
On 2020-04-02 12:47:23, user Anders Milton wrote:
The 70-plus Italians would have had BCG vaccinations when they were young, I believe. Still they die due to the covid-19 infection. How to explain that?
On 2020-04-22 23:33:18, user Silander North wrote:
Quotes:<br /> BACKGROUND: Hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) and azithromycin (AZ) are promising drugs against COVID-19.
METHODS: We conducted an uncontrolled non-comparative observational study in a cohort of 1061 infected patients treated with HCQ+AZ combination for at least three days.
RESULTS: Good clinical outcome and virological cure were obtained in 973 patients within 10 days (91.7%). Prolonged viral carriage was observed in 47 patients (4.4%) and was associated to a higher viral load at diagnosis (p < 10-2) but viral culture was negative at day 10. All but one were PCR-cleared at day 15.
A poor clinical outcome was observed for 46 patients (4.3%) and 8 died (0.75%) (74-95 years old).
Mortality was lower than in patients treated with other regimens in all Marseille public hospitals (p< 10-2). Five patients are still hospitalized (98.7% of patients cured so far). Poor clinical outcome was associated to older age (OR 1.11), initial higher severity (OR 10.05) and low HCQ serum concentration. Poor clinical and virological outcomes were associated to the use of selective beta-blocking agents and angiotensin II receptor blockers (P<0.05). No cardiac toxicity was observed.
CONCLUSION: Early HCQ+AZ combination is a safe and efficient treatment for COVID19.
On 2020-04-23 03:15:30, user Zachary Blair wrote:
Mortality projections that are based on a sample limited to one of the wealthiest counties in the country will likely be dangerously flawed. This methodology ignores wealth-based health disparities and is totally irresponsible from a public health perspective. A comparative study needs to be done if you seek to make conclusions that are valuable on a national scale. These results will ALWAYS be geographically specific unless you broaden your sample.
On 2020-04-23 12:38:51, user Tomas Hull wrote:
There is a significant number of populations tested of which there is a large number, mainly younger population, who have cleared the virus out, and yet, no detectable levels of antibodies where found by the antibody test in their blood plasma.
By what mechanism those groups of people, mainly younger population, were able to overcome SARS-CoV-2 infection, if their immune systems didn't produce the detectable levels of antibodies?
Also, what does this phenomenon imply how widespread really the virus is, if many more people, who have been infected with SARS-CoV-2, are among the many of false-negatives for antibodies?
On 2020-04-18 12:39:09, user Tomas Hull wrote:
I will try to be the devil's advocate:
80% of population infected with COVID-19 have very mild symptoms or none.<br /> 75% of population with COVID-19-like-symptoms tested negative.
What's the likelihood of anybody from these 2 groups responding to the facebook ad, and participating in the study?
On 2020-04-18 15:49:32, user DickRuble wrote:
There are many question marks about this study re: population sampling and analysis.
I could find no info about the manufacturer of the test. Could it be that the test/antibody is not specific enough, and detects exposure to other coronaviruses, such as the common cold? I.e. many false positives?
On 2020-04-18 21:28:18, user Shiva Kaul wrote:
In the statistical appendix, the variance of the estimates of sensitivity and specificity seemingly have no dependence on the sample sizes. For example, if the empirically observed sensitivities \hat{r} of 91.8% and 67.6% were observed on samples 100x larger, the calculated variance would not decrease, though intuitively there would be less uncertainty.
Is there a missing factor of n, or have I just been sheltered-in-place too long?
On 2020-04-19 17:20:25, user James Kalb wrote:
Does anyone know which antibody test was used in this study? Maybe I overlooked it. I’m interested in the name of the manufacturer.
On 2020-04-19 20:28:34, user Tick Tock wrote:
Can we see an example of a set of positives, negatives and samples from the lateral flow immuno-blot used?
On 2020-04-20 08:46:50, user mendel wrote:
The study itself reports only the IgG specificity of the test kit, omitting the false error rate for IgM. It also sets the sensitivity at the lower of both values. This is mathematically consistent with accepting a sample as positive if it passes both the IgG and the IgM test. However, the package insert states that a test is positive if either one of these is detected, it doesn't require both.<br /> ,<br /> What did the study do? Page 6 states: "The total number of positive cases by either IgG or IgM in our unadjusted sample was 50". It comes down to a point of grammar: does "positive by either" mean the sample had to register positive by both?
This is a rather crucial point: if they counted a test as positive if just one of IgG and IgM was positive, the mathematical analysis is invalid and needs to be redone.
On 2020-04-20 13:43:09, user David Feist wrote:
What is the mathematical probability that all five seroprevalence tests are wrong? These tests now appear to be corroborated by many PCR tests showing 30% population infection rates (eg the "Boston homeless" results).
Isn't it possible that Swedish style policies naturally create 30% antibody immunity levels on top of existing 30% memory T cell immunity from prior common cold, corona virus infections? Virus specific, CD4 and CD8 memory T cells have been identified in recovered SARS patients - up to 4 years from infection:(https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.go... "https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4125530/)").
On 2020-04-20 18:38:21, user svenj wrote:
Academically interesting and a nice statistical exercise, but consider that COVID 19 is now the second leading cause of death in the US (https://www.dallasnews.com/... "https://www.dallasnews.com/opinion/editorials/2020/04/19/the-number-are-in-covid-19-is-worse-than-the-flu-and-is-now-a-leading-cause-of-death/)") and this is with social protocols in place. Kind of immaterial how many people statistically might have, or have had it. It's killing people at a faster rate than almost anything else right now. I can only imagine if you back off on distancing, those who don't know they have it will pass it on to more for whom it is a problem. Doesn't sound like a good idea.
On 2020-11-14 23:54:15, user Atomsk's Sanakan wrote:
The crippling flaws in this study have been pointed in many reputable sources, to the point that this paper cannot be considered an accurate estimate of seroprevalence and IFR population-wide in Santa Clara. The study over-estimates population-wide seroprevalence and under-estimates IFR.
For example, the study's recruitment method would favor those who volunteer for testing because they believe they're at higher risk of being infected (ex: they believe they were recently exposed to someone with symptoms). That's exacerbated by the fact that people need to travel to a site for testing, instead of doing self-testing at home or having researchers come to their home to test them, as done in other studies. The people more likely to put in the time and effort to travel to a testing site, are also more likely to have reason to think they were infected.
I recommend the following sources for those who want to learn about the scientific flaws in this type of study:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.go...<br /> https://www.medrxiv.org/con...<br /> https://www.medrxiv.org/con...<br /> https://rapidreviewscovid19...<br /> https://bfi.uchicago.edu/wo...
And that's not even touching on some of the other problems with the study, such as the reportedly inaccurate information used to recruit some volunteers, alleged funding from an airline executive with a vested interest in making COVID-19 look less deadly so more people fly during the pandemic, etc. BuzzFeed has articles covering those points:
https://www.buzzfeednews.co...<br /> https://www.buzzfeednews.co...
In any event, there's a better designed seroprevalence study of Santa Clara underway:
http://med.stanford.edu/epi...<br /> https://www.ca-facts.org/
On 2020-06-26 13:40:46, user Eli Rosenberg wrote:
We note that this article was published in Annals of Epidemiology on June 17, 2020:<br /> https://www.sciencedirect.c...
We thank the medRxiv community for your interest in our work.
Eli Rosenberg<br /> Associate Professor<br /> Department of Epidemiology and Biostatistics<br /> University at Albany School of Public Health, State University of New York
On 2020-07-05 11:40:53, user OxImmuno Literature Initiative wrote:
On 2020-07-08 15:26:34, user Abhijit Mallick wrote:
The paper is informative. Good analysis of data is observed. The paper is believed to explore scope of future research.
On 2024-07-27 16:25:36, user Mahalul Azam wrote:
This article now have been published in an peer reviewed journal "The Southeast Asian Journal of<br /> Tropical Medicine and Public Health"
https://journal.seameotropmednetwork.org/index.php/jtropmed/article/view/1001
DOI: https://journal.seameotropmednetwork.org/index.php/jtropmed/issue/view/26
On 2020-04-15 23:02:06, user M. Ohta wrote:
It may not be simple overdose, because azithromycin is reported to <br /> inhibit, though weakly, cytochrome P450 3A4, which metabolizes <br /> chloroquine.
On 2020-04-16 20:32:36, user Tom Sakmar wrote:
With respect to UV decontamination, as noted earlier, it's not possible to use a UV-A/B meter (280-400nm range) to quantify the UV-C dosage from a germicidal LED (260-285nm). The dosage is clearly being underestimated. This is a major flaw. The preprint should be taken down and revised.
On 2020-04-18 15:07:55, user Bertrand DELSUC wrote:
Were there periods where the RT-PCR status of patients toggled between positive and negative and then back from negative to positive during the follow-up period of this study? If yes, did you report the last day positive in the LDVP column? Thanks
On 2020-04-18 20:15:52, user Tere mius wrote:
How are these results helpful if the analysis is conducted on nasopharyngeal swabs? We know that in asymptomatics the majority of viral load is present only in the upper respiratory tract, or am I not understanding what was reported in other papers? <br /> Furthermore, part of the symptoms are caused by the immune system itself, so a higher viral load will cause a different reaction anyway, am I right?<br /> Thanks if anyone can clarify this for me.
On 2020-04-18 20:32:07, user BaNe™ Machine wrote:
Does it matter that studies are finding antibodies in 85 times more people than reported being sick? How does this affect the models? If the spread rate is actually 85 times higher? Doesn't that make this nonsense? Thanks, please clarify. Studies out of Stanford Univ.
On 2020-04-19 10:09:36, user Ratnasingham Edward Shanthakum wrote:
I wonder if the humidity in very cold air facilitate the virus to be dried and suspended and taken further apart. Also would there be any electrical charge on the surface attract it to gas molecules.
On 2020-04-19 18:00:50, user Shang Tsung wrote:
This so called study is wrong all along.First i am surprised that the authors, among which supposedly there is an epidemiologist fail at the first basic premise of Epidemiology - non-linearity.Even looking back at Spanish Flu there were extremely strong non-linear occurences which do not lend itself to reasonable modeling ante factum.Same thing happened to attemtps to model SARS , then MERS , then Swine-Flu and so on.Also you claim that more elderly actually die from COVID than reported due to not testing, i claim exactly the oppositte, based on the current data.What i mean - in recent publications the lead pathologist of Hamburg , did a series of autopsies on alleged COVID deaths(tested positve post mortem) , what he found out that not a single person died solely or directly because of SARS 2 ! (https://www.mopo.de/hamburg...I "https://www.mopo.de/hamburg/rechtsmediziner--ohne-vorerkrankung-ist-in-hamburg-an-covid-19-noch-keiner-gestorben--36508928)I") strongly beleive that the case is the same for Sweden, just looking at the age structure of the deaths, the great majority of them are above 80, i would be more than curious if they do autopsies on a good number of the those alleged deaths , to check for real death cause.As of today 19.04, Stockholm reported the lowest number of new positive tests in a month, which completely support Anders Tegnell projection, that the Stockhlom peak is already due.
On 2020-04-20 01:20:55, user JWJ wrote:
Did I read that right, this model is predicting 96,000 dead in Sweden by June 29 2020?
On 2020-10-14 20:06:18, user Patrick Palmieri wrote:
Did a large number of COVID-19 infected people seeking health services at EsSalud know they were not receiving evidence-based interventions? In addition, were EsSalud leaders aware there were five different 'treatment groups' as well as a ‘control’ group? Thanks to the researchers of this manuscript, we can now ask for more details to address previous 'rumors' about poor clinical management of people with COVID-19. This point is especially important as the EsSalud hospitals have been sealed to family and visitors. As such, patients are left in these hospitals without advocates for their safety and wellbeing.
Although the current study presents an ‘observational cohort’ design, we need to ask about the circumstances, structures and processes, that resulted in the original data reported in this manuscript. The researchers clearly stated they ‘compare[d] five treatment groups to the standard of care treatment regimen, as a control group....’ To this point we need to ask how could these six groups (with significant variations from the care standard) be organically organized from the existing patient population at EsSalud? In this regard, I am not claiming the researchers did anything wrong, but we need to understand how EsSalud ignored or facilitated the reported situation. In fact, we should thank the researchers for exposing some potential issues only believed to be unsubstantiated rumors in the previous months. Again, we need to recognize the vulnerability of patients as there were no family members present to be advocates in the EsSalud hospitals.
In explaining the possibility for five treatment groups and one control group at EsSalud, the researchers added ‘...decision to administer one of these treatment groups depended on clinician’s own criteria guided by the Ministry of Health recommendations, which was changing over time according to updated evidence-based reviews...’ Given the fact that EsSalud is the social security system for workers in Peru with separate clinical practice guidelines claimed to be based on evidence, this statement indicates the quality of care and standards of medical practice were not monitored by EsSalud. Again, this is concerning as the patients were vulnerable, without family advocates, and there is no statement in the manuscript about the normal informed consent process for clinical management.
The current observational study indicates there was a single ‘standard treatment’ authorized yet five alternative protocols were implemented as seemingly 'n of 1' studies. How were physicians in EsSalud able to clinically manage patients with unapproved protocols that significantly varied from the evidence? Were EsSalud leaders aware of the deficiencies in clinical management that probably contributed to the deaths of many patients? As a matter of normal clinical management did each patient consent to the treatment they received understanding there were more effective treatments available?
From the information reported in this manuscript, the clinical management of patients with COVID-19 at EsSalud needs to be reviewed by external authorities to determine the possibility of clinical negligence, medical malpractice, unethical conduct, unauthorized research, and/or illegal activities. Again, I want to emphasize these comments are in no way focused on the researchers. I sincerely appreciate the researchers exposing several serious ethical concerns that have only been rumors for months.
On 2020-04-20 08:10:59, user Andrew the longwinded wrote:
For those that are thinking that this data puts the death rate of COVID-19 much lower than previously estimated, consider that these early cases may have been biased towards younger more socially active people, which would skew the mortality figures downwards.
Young CC Prof's comment puts NY city's deaths per million at 0.16% and climbing, which is consistent with Worldometer's figure of 933/Million (0.0933%) deaths per million for NY state, and is well above flu death rates.
On 2020-04-20 15:06:14, user PokeTheTruth wrote:
This article does not represent rigorous scientific study that conclusively proves the SARS-CoV-2 virus spreads from an asymptomatic person to susceptible (non-infected) people. The fact that active (symptomatic) carriers of the virus were in a closed environment (homeless shelter) sneezing, coughing, and exhibiting post-nasal drip prior to the 2-day study while they touched multiple surfaces everywhere cannot be overlooked as the collective "patient zeros." An analysis by an epidemiologist is only as good as the quality of data measured. Commingling active carriers with asymptomatic (inactive) carriers cannot be treated the same from a qualitative perspective and such information should be discarded from evaluation.
There is only one way to determine if asymptomatic carriers can infect a susceptible population and that is by a controlled experiment where one inactive carrier is introduced to a "clean" (non-contagious with any known airborne transmitted virus) group and observed clinically over the known incubation period
On 2020-04-21 19:31:05, user Pierre Balaz wrote:
Just to get all the details : which was the posology of then medications used ? (HCQ and AZT) ?
On 2020-04-22 09:23:55, user Dr Mubarak Muhamed khan wrote:
I keenly read this manuscript. My views. Following are the limitations before coming to conclusions <br /> 1. This is still not a published study in any top journals and must be taken back based on following points<br /> 2. Although a good write up, it’s retrospective study with hurried conclusions<br /> 3. Selection criteria is just based on hospitalised COVID19 patients. And at which stage drugs administered is not clear in all three groups<br /> 4. Outcome criteria is only either death or discharge. What happened to those who got discharged ? Whether there was any hastening in improvement due to these drugs? Whether there is shortening of duration due to drugs from COVID positive to negative?<br /> 5. Whether these drugs have been tried as prophylaxis? Or only used in hospitalised patients? <br /> 6. All patients included are with mean age at 70 and with many comorbidities <br /> 7. What dosages used for hcq and azythromicin ? How many days treatment given?<br /> 8. What type of pharmacovigilance noted for all groups?<br /> 9. Whether at anytime drugs discontinued due to side effects?<br /> 10. What side effects were obvious during the treatment period?<br /> 11. When patients succumbed to mechanical ventilation, how and what type of dosages of these drugs given?
*Although it is good retrospective study to know the effects of HCQ and HCQ+AZT in treatment of COVID 19 infected hospitalised patients.... it will be very much premature to conclude these drug’s role based on short experience and points raised above*
On 2020-04-22 05:16:57, user Marm Kilpatrick wrote:
This is published now in Lancet. Not sure why this isn't indicated above:<br /> https://doi.org/10.1016/S14...
On 2020-11-20 15:17:08, user sj hasnan wrote:
Excellent article. Unfortunately one huge confounding factor was the lack of face mask use recommendation by CDC and the Corona task force in the first two months of the study. Dr. Fauci himself did not use any face mask until the end of May. The number of new cases started to drop toward the end of May and June, until the 4th of July, when the public dropped all guards and pictures of swimming pools full of hundreds of reveling citizens appeared from many states. Also when we compare data from the Northern and Southern hemispheres with opposing seasons, there appears to be no relationship to the weather pattern.
On 2020-11-26 12:13:59, user Dr Gareth Davies (Gruff) wrote:
Thank you for this fascinating analysis! It brings together a great deal of very useful information, and the data were presented in useful and transparent ways, and the tables and graphs especially helpful in understanding the data.
I would like to offer some constructive feedback concerning the statistics and their interpretation, as some results appear to have been misinterpreted and this undermines this excellent work.
The use of term "statistically significant" (18 occurrences included negatives) is especially concerning and goes against best-practice. P values and confidence intervals are frequently misinterpreted by both review authors and readers. A lack of evidence is not evidence of lack of effect. This is especially concerning where interpretations of dose, frequency and trial length are interpreted, as they give the impression that some were demonstrably effective whereas others were demonstrably not effective and the latter is not something this study could ascertain and should definitely not conclude or discuss.
(Best practice recommendations from Cochrane Handbook for Systematic Reviews of Interventions version 6.1 C.15.3.2: "Review authors should not describe results as ‘statistically significant’, ‘not statistically significant’ or ‘non-significant’ or unduly rely on thresholds for P values, but report the confidence interval together with the exact P value.")
There is a great deal of heterogeneity in the studies that cannot be measured by an I-squared metric but are important and will affect. Differences in study populations, sizes, country, latitude, age ranges, comorbidities, length of trial, method of assessing outcome, dosing freqency, % participants <25nmol/L, year of study etc. can all introduce very large unmeasurable confounding bias that may strongly influence results in ways that cannot be accounted for by software calculating CIs, P values, or I^2 measures. I would strongly urge great caution in interpreting these as meaningful.
For example, in the group of studies where dose equivalent > 2000 IU/d, the studies vary enormously in almost every attribute and yet the I-squared metric suggests only moderate heterogeneity which is very misleading. It is especially telling that in some studies the reported incidence of > 1 ARI in the intervention and control arms is wildly different across studies: ~17% (Rake 2020) ~74% (Camargo 2020); ~96% (Murdoch 2012), casting strong doubt on the reliability of the measure to capture the outcome of interest to the study.
Berman 2012 showed a small population (N=124) of patients in Sweden (latitude 60°N) susceptible to ARIs (assessed with symptoms, range 40%-60%) and with measured high-prevalence of D deficiency (11.45%) responded positively to >2,000 IU with an odds ratio of 0.43 (CI 0.21 - .88). Among others, these results are combined with Camargo 2020 in New Zealand (40°S) in a very large population (N=5,056) of healthy adults with low prevalence of D deficiency (1.8%) where (ARIs self-reported cold/flu incidence ~75%) with an odds ratio 0.90 to 1.16; and Lehouck 2012 (adults with chronic obstructive lung disease).
It's hard to see how the data from these trials can be meaningfully combined. It's no surprise the comined CI was large 0.84 to 1.31 (in truth it will be far larger since bias and measurement errors have not been accounted for), but the only interpretation possible here is that we cannot interpret anything from these combined data and more research is needed.
The same problem occurs when combining individuals with deficiency (<25nmol/L) giving a combined CI of 0.53 - 1.16. This is reported as "a statistically significant protective effect of vitamin D was not seen in those with the lowest 25(OH)D concentrations" which is then wrongly interpreted to mean evidence of no effect which is simply not the case. All this means is the statistical power was too low to detect an effect with high confidence. Arguably, there IS a detectable effect if we use a lower confidence threshold. (I'm not suggesting this, I'm merely pointing out how careful we need to be interpreting statistics).
Results with CIs crossing null can say nothing about the existence or non-existence of an effect and should not be reported or interpreted as such, especially if the ranges are large. The inability to reject the null hypothesis is not proof of the null hypothesis. It's just lack of study power.
Statements such as "Greater protective efficacy of lower vs higher doses" has no evidential basis and should be removed. This analysis did not show a greater protective effect at lower doses! It showed an effect at lower doses and had insufficient data at higher doses to investigate the question. The subsequent musing over potential mechanisms to explain this imagined difference should also be removed.
I would also strongly caution against multivariable meta-regressions on trial characteristics. There are simply too many potential unmeasured confounders and sources of measurement error to trust that this method will produce meaningful adjustments. There's no telling if this would properly adjust, or conversely introduce bias and loss of precision.
I think if these issues were addressed the study contributes some very important and useful results confirming the positive beneficial effects of vitamin D, and suggests more research could help to answer the questions where the data were insufficient to cast light.
Congratulations on the paper and I hope this feedback is helpful!
Best wishes,
Gareth
On 2020-11-28 11:23:15, user Karl Pettersson wrote:
How are the final sizes of the epidemics calculated in this framework? Are they estimated by simulation? It seems that for the cases with full immunity after infection, you can use eq S31 in https://doi.org/10.1101/202... with ?=0 in ? (p. 5) for varying susceptibility and ?=1 for varying connectivity, but they need to be adjusted for the cases with partial immunity.
On 2020-11-30 19:51:40, user Igor wrote:
It's Santa Catarina, for god's sake...
On 2020-12-02 17:20:39, user Steven Luger wrote:
are there ways to furhter modify the input? Ex merv 8 filter?<br /> with full air turnover every 10 minutes but only 10% new outside air. <br /> ACH - does this refer to air change of recirculated indoor air passing through the merv 8? or does this mean full exchange of indoor air for outdoor air?
On 2020-12-05 20:36:08, user Anglo Svizzera wrote:
I'm not sure that this study is of much use at all when it comes to the conclusion "Vitamin C, zinc and garlic supplements had no association with risk for SARS-CoV-2".
This is especially the case when it comes to vitamin C and zinc as the amounts used would undoubtedly be relevant, particularly in the case of vitamin C.
Most OTC supplements of vitamin C are rarely over 1000mg and, if they are not liposomal or time-release, this may mean that much of the vitamin C is be excreted before being utilised. In fact, the UK RDA for vitamin C is a mere 40mg which is probably the amount found in many cheaper multivitamin supplements and, as such, would be unlikely to have any protective effect against Covid-19.
Many doctors have noted that patients with severe Covid disease appear to show symptoms of scurvy, thus indicating that their vitamin C levels are inadequate, which is unsurprising given that the demand for vitamin C by the body is vastly increased during viral infections.
Considering that mammals that produce their own vitamin C make far more than this amount on a daily basis, and even more when fighting infection, it would be interesting to see whether larger amounts of vitamin C spread out during the day may make a difference with regard to the susceptibility of Covid-10. Examples are that a healthy dog makes 18mg/kg a day, whilst a healthy goat makes 200mg/kg!
Regarding zinc supplementation, the forms of zinc supplements vary widely, some being more bio-available than others, so it may have been useful for the researchers to find out the amount of "elemental zinc" in the supplements taken.
Obviously this kind of study is not designed to discover whether larger amounts of vitamin C and/or certain forms of zinc might reduce susceptibility or morbidity from Covid-19 but it might clearly be worthwhile studying this in more detail.
On 2020-12-11 08:26:52, user Christian.Neuwirth@sbg.ac.at wrote:
Scientific Reports has published this manuscript:<br /> https://www.nature.com/arti...
On 2020-12-17 16:23:47, user G F wrote:
Our just published, see https://bmjopen.bmj.com/con... , detailed study protocol and data analysis plan may guide other biomarker exploration trials. You're welcome to get in touch with us (fuellen@uni-rostock.de) !
On 2021-01-03 12:28:23, user Richard Weller wrote:
Very pleased to see this randomised double-blinded controlled trial of vitamin D on COVID outcomes, and not altogether surprised that it shows no benefit. Rule 101 of epidemiology is that 'correlation does not equal causation' which is frequently overlooked by those advocating Vitamin D supplementation as a universal panacea. The only way of convincingly showing causality is by interventions studies such as yours. Numerous meta-analyses now published in the major journals showing no benefit of Vitamin D on cardiovascular disease despite the strong inverse correlation between measured vitamin D and CVS outcomes. This needs to act as a cautionary tale for those determined to imply that the link between low vitamin D levels and poor COVID outcomes is necessarily causal. 'Vitamin D tunnel vision' also has the unintended consequence of stopping researchers looking for alternative mechanisms. We have shown that non-vitamin D forming UVA inversely correlates with COVID mortality in USA/England/Italy https://www.medrxiv.org/con... This suggests that there are mechanisms independent of vitamin D by which sunlight might improve outcomes, and that we should be looking for them.
On 2020-11-18 12:34:24, user John Lambiase wrote:
Useless study. You have to dose the patient daily. The considered therapeutic range of >30.0 ng/mL is laughable. Anyone who has studied Vitamin D in a meaningful way understands dosage and therapeutic ranges of 40-60 ng/mL. There was enough anecdotal evidence out to point researchers in the right direction on how to dose patients. Not to mention where is the CBC differential results. It is interesting how all these critical covid patients had an avg platelet count over 300. Something is not right here because most critical patients are low in Platelets and Monocytes as well as lymphocytes.
On 2021-02-04 18:11:23, user Gina Assaf wrote:
Do the researchers have data on the percentage of those with autoantibodies who also developed IgM and IgG COVID antibodies from this cohort? My question is getting at if autoantibodies are mutually exclusive with antibodies. The reason I ask is we have a large cohort of long COVID patients who reported tested negative for antibodies in our patient-led research survey (most of them were tested post 3 months from infection though). https://www.medrxiv.org/con...
On 2020-09-16 07:52:15, user C'est la même wrote:
While this abstract may lead to catchy speculative headlines "60,000 undetected cases", unfortunately few will actually read this paper and realise the statistical and methodological limitations, meaning this is only of "suggestive" quality evidence and thus not generalisable.
"Perhaps there were Zero SARS-CoV-2 in Australia by July" sounds less catchy - yet the results also suggests this too.
I wonder why none of the journalists reporting on this article in the Australian media understand how to assess and communicate the quality of epidemiological studies on a simple scale of suggestive-moderate-high?
On 2020-09-16 17:38:21, user LB wrote:
This Causal Inference paper is brilliant. Why has this not been published?
On 2020-09-24 14:55:10, user Antonio Cassone wrote:
Enjoyable reading, instructive work, I warmly congratulate with the Authors for this excellent contribution to. this exciting research field of utmost importance.<br /> The Authors may wish to consider for their final peer-reviewed publication our report on D614G mutation in the first wave of Covid-19 epidemic in Italy, a country strongly and early hit by the virus soon after China<br /> (Evidence for mutations in SARS-CoV-2 Italian isolates potentially affecting virus transmission<br /> Domenico Benvenuto Ayse Banu Demir Marta Giovanetti Martina Bianchi Silvia Angeletti Stefano Pascarella Roberto Cauda Massimo Ciccozzi Antonio Cassone<br /> First published: 03 June 2020<br /> https://doi.org/10.1002/jmv... "https://doi.org/10.1002/jmv.26104)")<br /> The change conferred by the D614 mutation in the molecular structure and configuration of the S1 spike protein led us to hypothesize a role of it in enhancing SARS-2-CoV transmission. It was a short, initial communication and we clarified we had, of course, no proof of that supposition (must say, is there any real proof yet?) <br /> Antonio Cassone, MD, FAAM
On 2020-09-26 16:13:22, user Martin Balzan wrote:
thank you for this interesting study <br /> I have published this study on a possible association between phlebovirus prevalence (sicilian sandlfy fever group/bunyavirus, and low prevalance, mortality and case fataility in europe.<br /> Low Incidence and Mortality from SARS-CoV-2 in Southern Europe. Proposal of a hypothesis for Arthropod borne Herd immunity<br /> https://doi.org/10.1016/j.m...<br /> My hypothesis favours natural selection of populations with exposure to novel viruses of zoonotic origin over many generations.<br /> Flavirus (dengue), Coronaviruses (Covic), and Bunya viruses (pheloboviruses) all carry bat,<br /> and mammalian dna, in particular rodetns and hooved animals. <br /> These viruses have high mutation rate, and enhanced ability to cross species and I suspect that populations exposed to these arthropod bourne viruses have better innate and reactive <br /> immunity to SARS-COVID-2
See babayan et al <br /> 1. Babayan SA, Orton RJ, Streicker DG. Predicting reservoir hosts and arthropod vectors from evolutionary signatures in RNA virus genomes. Science. 2018;362(6414):577-80. <br /> https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.go...
On 2020-09-27 12:30:11, user Saurabh Mandal wrote:
Dear Authors, <br /> You have mentioned that no single paper has been published by Bihar, a BIMARU state. This can be attributed for lack of medical or health science education and research institutions in this part.
I would like to know from authors, Could you please decribe that how many full-fledged research institutes are there in Bihar? How many active research groups are there who works in virus or virology research? How many virus research papers has been published from Bihar by 02/03/2020?
If authors compares with existing research status of any states and then compares with coronavorus research contribution, then it will be more robust to make attribution.
On 2020-09-28 19:59:31, user Laura Matrajt wrote:
This pre-print had a small error that was corrected during the review process. Please find final, corrected version of this work at:
On 2020-10-03 15:16:25, user Dr. Amy wrote:
Thank you for this important contribution!! The particle number data points on the age and BMI graphs seem not to be the same. Eg The highest outlier superspreader who seems to be BMI 46 has 3000 particles and the highest outlier superspreader who is 63 has 3500 particles. 1) are all subjects’ particle numbers represented on both graphs? 2) what happens to the correlation coefficient if the outlier(s) is/are removed? 3) is it the same subject with different samples? Again, important information about droplet and aerosol behavior. It would be interesting to know if the same aerosol for Mation changes are noted with other respiratory infections or if SARS-CoV2 behaves differently.
On 2020-10-05 02:17:51, user Kiran Bhaganagar wrote:
I would like to bring to your attention a recent peer reviewed work in Environmental Research Journal on outdoor transmission, which will be very relevant to your work.
On 2020-10-05 16:47:41, user Michael Sibelius wrote:
Very impressive work! Have you done any work on extending this to the second wave? Since your model could fit observed numbers of hospitalisations and ICU cases, it would be really interesting to see what it does for the second round of epidemic, now that children have gone back to school, and many people have returned to work.
On 2020-10-06 22:07:43, user Jema Rushe wrote:
A suite of interventions, including graded exercise and cognitive behavioural therapy, are<br /> needed to manage CFS and may be relevant to post infectious fatigue (57-59).<br /> Would you please consider revising the above sentence. The data from the original PACE trial (your reference 58) has been reanalysed and found not to support either graded exercise therapy (GET) or cognitive behavioural therapy (CBT) as an effective treatment for CFS. There is a general consensus among CFS physicians, researchers, and patients that both GET and CBT are often detrimental to CFS sufferers and there is a growing body of literature that supports this. The US CDC have dropped both from their list of recommended treatments for CFS. The UK are currently reviewing their NICE guidelines for CFS (update due April 2021) but they did release a statement July 2020 specifically advising people not to assume the current guidelines for GET as a treatment for mild-moderate CFS applies to post-COVID19 fatigue ( https://www.nice.org.uk/gui... "https://www.nice.org.uk/guidance/gid-ng10091/documents/statement)"). The HSE guidelines are currently under review and will presumably be published after April 2021. Thanks for your consideration.
On 2020-10-07 06:13:12, user Markku Peltonen wrote:
There were a number of comments on this manuscript on twitter early August, with concerns on errors in the calculations among others. Might be useful for others, so here is what I tweeted on August 5th 2020 (https://twitter.com/MarkkuP...: "https://twitter.com/MarkkuPeltonen/status/1290754970292281349):")
Recently there was a meta-analysis on the effects of masks conducted in Finland. A number of comments has been made about the quality of the piece, so I had a quick look at it. As the analysis was also mentioned at least in Sweden, few quick comments in English. 1/10
Background: the Finnish Ministry of Social Affairs and Health did a systematic review in May 2020 on the use of community face coverings to prevent the spread of Covid-19. There was no meta-analysis in the review, which focused on effectiveness. 2/10
The conclusion on that report was “very little research data available on the effectiveness of community face coverings in preventing the spread of COVID-19 in society.” and evidence “minor” or “non-existent”. 3/10
So, now then a formal meta-analysis, identifying the same 5 randomised controlled trials, showing an effect with relative risk estimate 0.61 (95% CI 0.39-0.96).<br /> Few points: 4/10
The meta-analysis focuses on efficacy; what is achievable potentially when perfect conditions. They do something which they call “account of bias caused by non-compliance”; ie. if persons in the mask-group did not were masks they “adjust” for this. 5/10
To me, this sounds quite controversial: In my world we look at intention-to-treat first, and then perhaps maybe on the “per-protocol”/“as treated”. <br /> Efficacy important, but this is now something different than what the original systematic review aimed at. 6/10
The problems of this accentuate in the Discussion, where the authors do not seem to understand the difference in efficacy and effectiveness, nor the fact that they are actually analysing something else than the original review, and making way too far-fetched conclusions. 7/10
There are other peculiarities, for example “Four of the analyzed studies evaluated the use of masks on respiratory infections directly, and in one the primary outcome was compliance with mask use.”. Hopefully an error, I don’t believe they actually mix the outcomes like this. 8/
. @jejkarppinen added the following comments after my initial post, which I agree with:<br /> - The potential biases in the original papers were not covered.<br /> - Quality of evidence was not evaluated at all.<br /> - Dissemination of the results did not consider the potential problems. 9/10
Finally:<br /> - I've not read the original 5 studies. <br /> - I’m not an expert on systematic reviews/meta-analyses. <br /> - I do think recommendation for masks is motivated, and the evidence is there (but not here..).<br /> - I do think we should be objective when evaluating evidence. 10/10
The original systematic review the Finnish Ministry of Social Affairs and Health in Finnish is here (english abstract only):<br /> http://julkaisut.valtioneuv...
Ps. Somebody noted the lack of preregistered protocol, which reminded me that the PRISMA-guidelines helpful when reporting systematic reviews and meta-analyses. <br /> Their checklist should be followed in reporting:<br /> http://prisma-statement.org
In addition, it was noted by Jesper Kivelä that there are errors in the calculations, these should be corrected (in Finnish):<br /> https://twitter.com/JesperK...
On 2020-10-14 16:22:00, user Yevhen Pylypenko wrote:
And then — https://www.medrxiv.org/con... :-|
On 2020-10-20 14:30:05, user Martin Dugas wrote:
In our paper serum was collected at the first patient contact (see material and methods). We used a validated commercial test kit to measure OC43 and HKU1 antibodies. We assessed 60 patients in three groups, age and gender matched. Yanqun Wang analyzed 12 severely ill and 11 mildly ill patients.
On 2020-10-14 18:44:44, user Darren Brown; HIV Physiotherap wrote:
The description of both episodic ("relapsing/remitting") symptoms plus uncertainty has specific relevance to existing literature from other health conditions eg: HIV. The Episodic Disability Framework considers the variable nature of disability, acknowledges uncertainty as a key component, describes contextual factors that influence experiences of disability, and considers life events that may initiate a major or momentous episode.
Here are some references that may be of value.
On 2020-10-15 08:32:49, user WOStavelot wrote:
Selling genetic testing is not the best formative domain for driving a clinical study. There should have been a broader base of information to permit placing symptomatology in a more useful perspective. Feels like this was patched on to an in-place system to get some additional funding. Nothing too wrong with that accept that thinking that large numbers of respondents will fix a poor design is an error. Disappointing.
On 2020-10-16 12:57:36, user Dieter Mergel wrote:
This article may help to explain a finding in:
https://www.medrxiv.org/con....<br /> Stipulating face mask wearing in Germany reduced the Covid-19 fatality rate although it did not affect the infection dynamics represented by the effective reproduction rate.
This is the most astonishing result of a data-scientific investigation: <br /> "Correlation between daily infections and fatality rate due to Covid-19 in Germany" and<br /> fits to the findings of 45% seroprevalence in Tokyo tempting to the breathtaking speculation that: <br /> "Wearing face-masks in densely populated areas is a sort of vaccination."
On 2020-10-17 19:50:42, user Martijn Hoogeveen wrote:
The paper has been accepted by Elsevier Science's journal Science of the Total Environment on October 11, 2020. Link will be shared when live.
On 2020-10-20 01:11:07, user Larry Weisenthal wrote:
Enrollment criteria are confusing: Abstract states that study subjects were symptomatic. Methods inclusion criteria state that the study was open to patients with CV19 diagnosis, but to my knowledge it wasn't clearly stated whether or not patients had to have lingering, long term symptoms.
We'd all like to know the denominator, i.e. of all young low risk patients, what percent go on to have long covid symptoms? This paper is confusing, with regard to this question.
Larry Weisenthal/Huntington Beach CA
On 2020-10-22 18:25:28, user helen colhoun wrote:
From Helen M Colhoun, AXA Chair in Medical Informatics & Epidemiology, University of Edinburgh. Honorary Consultant in Public Health Medicine.<br /> David McAllister, Senior Clinical Lecturer in Epidemiology and Honorary Consultant in Public Health Medicine, University of Glasgow.<br /> The authors should be commended on attempting to characterise long-COVID-19. Post-viral syndromes are a well- recognised phenomenon and it is important to accurately quantify the full range of the COVID-19 on health. The authors are careful to state that their reported risks pertain only to those with symptomatic COVID. However there are several reasons to think that even among those symptomatic that these results may be subject to serious bias. First of all there is a fundamental weakness of estimating risk based on a non-representative sampling frame, i.e. those who have chosen to use the app in the first place. Then after dropping around half of the 45839 persons who tested positive as being asymptomatic (the numbers in the first part of the flow diagram do not quite add up) a further 14443 are dropped because of starting to use the app whilst already unhealthy- it is not clear whether some of this represents people reporting symptoms well before diagnosis. Then 25% of those remaining are dropped for not persistently logging their symptoms (which could easily be much more common in people with no persisting symptoms than those without). <br /> Another major problem is the lack of specificity of the diagnosis. The disease state of long-COVID19 would appear to be defined as having “at least one symptom lasting more than one day” which has then been further categorised as LC28 or LC56 if symptoms persisted for these number of days. These symptoms include clearly non-specific symptoms such as “fatigue” , “unusual muscle aches and pains” and “skipping a meal”. No comment is made as to the prevalence of such symptoms in the other millions of users of the ZOE app. In the paper we find a hint of the lack of specificity in that in a matched set of test negatives we find that “Individuals with long-COVID were more likely to report relapses (16.0%)….In comparison, in the matched group of 139 SARS-CoV2 negative tested individuals, a new bout of illness was reported in 11.5% of cases.” This difference could easily be attributable to recall bias since at least a large proportion of those with positive tests will have known their result.<br /> Unfortunately this paper is being widely reported in the press as showing that “long COVID affects around 10% of 18 to 49-year-olds who catch the virus.” However those studied comprise just 15% of all those with evidence of infection and it is plausible that many of those not studied have no evidence of long COVID. That is even before we consider the problem that most people who have “caught the virus” don’t even get tested. It would be more correct to say this; “having excluded 85% of people with detected COVID-19 who were asymptomatic or did not continue to record their symptom status, we find that 10% of young people with a positive test report at least one symptom for 28 days and 2% report at least one symptom for 56 days.These symptoms are not specific for COVID-19 and are commonly found in the general population. “ We suggest that the authors to make this important distinction clear in the title of the final version of their manuscript or it will continue to be misquoted. We also suggest that they discuss the impact of the potential biases raised above more fully.
On 2020-10-23 02:17:54, user Pham Quang Tuan wrote:
Your data (Figure 1) does not support the conclusion that "As a linear trend from the first week of April, adjusted mortality risk decreased by 11.2% per week in HDU, and 9.0% in ICU". It may have been so at the beginning but has since slowed down, and would be nearer to 5% per week.
On 2020-10-24 02:24:38, user Elena wrote:
Dear author,
After reading your article, here are my comments. I will start out with positive; the title was great. It was straight to the point and exactly told what this paper is about. I like how it is broken down to individual parts in the abstract. It helped me navigate that section better. Your explanation of what studies were performed before were helpful. There were a couple of items that were missing. For example, why you chose peanuts and not of any of the other common allergens were missing. Also, in your methods, you said that you chose 3 families to get 2.5 or 5 grams and never explained why you chose 3 families and what that was for especially when all of the other families were feeding their infants one gram. I also feel that the methods and the results weren't well-organized. I feel like if you just reorganized those sections the paper would flow better.
On 2020-10-24 04:40:50, user gr2012 wrote:
I understand that very early use has some advantages.
On 2020-10-25 05:23:42, user Marston Gould wrote:
It would be interesting to run this analysis based on the GOP/Dem voting rate as of the 2018 election for the House of Representatives
On 2020-10-25 13:13:15, user John Roberts wrote:
Excellent analysis. The study mentioned that monoclonal antibodies will be added. At the top of the list should be leronlimab which is already in a phase 3 clinical study for severe/critical Covid patients with the primary endpoint mortality at 28 days. The interim analysis at 50% enrollment showed it is trending toward the endpoint and in fact another interim analysis was added at 75% enrollment.
On 2021-04-14 23:42:50, user fra setch wrote:
What is an anti-spike antibody, exactly. This doesn't match the P2 trials results for Covaxin after 1 dose.
On 2020-10-31 23:12:35, user Ron Conte wrote:
Many molecular docking studies have found that EGCG and other Green Tea Catechins are effective inhibitors of multiple SARS-CoV-2 viral components. However, dosage from green tea is lower than would be obtained by supplementation.
On 2020-11-02 00:40:26, user Md Mokhlesur Rahman wrote:
The peer-reviewed version of this paper has been accepted and published online. You can find the paper at the following link.
On 2020-11-02 02:33:32, user Atomsk's Sanakan wrote:
The paper calculates IFR using COVID-19 deaths 4 weeks after the median time at which antibody levels were measured. That's consistent with other papers that use at deaths 3 weeks or more after the median time. For example:
https://www.thelancet.com/p... (with: https://www.thelancet.com/j... )<br /> https://www.medrxiv.org/con...
The paper also notes that IFR for SARS-CoV-2 is substantially more than that of seasonal influenza:
"These results also confirm that COVID-19 is far more deadly than seasonal flu; indeed, the World Health Organization indicates that seasonal influenza mortality is usually well below 0·1% unless access to health care is constrained."<br /> https://www.medrxiv.org/con...
"Using the midpoint of that interval, we estimate that the total U.S. incidence of seasonal influenza during winter 2018-19 was in the range of 45 million to 93 million infections and hence that the population IFR for seasonal influenza was in the range of 0.04% to 0.08%--an order of magnitude smaller than the population IFR for COVID-19."<br /> https://www.medrxiv.org/con...
That is consistent with sources such as:
"The current data in Europe are consistent with an IFR of 0.5–1.0%, which is many times higher than seasonal influenza (<0.1%)."<br /> https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.go...
"The calculated COVID-19 infection fatality rate is 1.63%, which is 10 to 40 times more deadly than the seasonal flu (fatality rate 0.04%-0.16%)."<br /> https://news.ochsner.org/ne...<br /> [for: https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/a... ]
"In summary, we estimate that the overall COVID-19 IFR ranges from 0.14 - 0.42% in low income countries to 0.78 - 1.79% in high income countries, with the differences in those ranges reflecting the older demography of high income settings.<br /> [...]<br /> Our estimates of the IFR of COVID-19 are consistent with early estimates and remain substantially higher than IFR estimates for seasonal influenza (<0.1% in the USA) [...]."<br /> https://www.imperial.ac.uk/...
World Health Organization, in October:<br /> "Several of these analyses have used published or pre-print seroepidemiologic results and they all converge around a point estimate of around 0.6%.<br /> That may not sound like a lot but that is a lot higher than influenza [...]."<br /> https://www.who.int/publica...
On 2020-11-03 05:06:24, user KOTTAISAMY K wrote:
Hoe to download the dataset from Taiwan's National Health Insurance Research Database (NHIRD).kindly share the dataset link or share the dataset. its very useful for My Research works. Otherwise share the dataset to mail. THANK YOU..
On 2020-11-03 20:39:17, user Geoff wrote:
It's all hypothetical. The isolation and purification of the virus viewed under an electron microscope has never occurred. Then you have to show the virus you think you isolated and identified can multiply. Another step would be to introduce it to a host to see if it causes symptoms. Since none of this occurred to prove the virus exists, then small RNA or DNA segments collected from a cesspool sample can never verify if it is endogenous or exogenous in nature. And using computer programs to piecemeal a virus together is very suspect.
On 2020-11-10 00:27:08, user Mesut Erzurumluoglu wrote:
Now published in Environmental Research: https://www.sciencedirect.c...
On 2020-11-12 15:29:00, user Barbora wrote:
Figure 2 and the description on page 7 for teh late phase do not seem to match:
Description:<br /> "The sensitivities of the assays ranged from 40 to 86% for the early phase samples, 67 to 100% for the middle phase samples, and 78 to 89% for the late phase (Figure 2)."
Fig2: late phase goes up to 100%
On 2020-11-13 15:19:50, user Abhay Sharma wrote:
This finding that moderate adult COVID-19 patients administered a single dose of intradermal BCG achieve faster resolution of hypoxia, and significant radiological improvement and viral load reduction, without showing evidence of BCG induced cytokine storm, is supported by a recent epidemiological transcriptomic evidence that BCG vaccination induces persistent upregulation of antiviral defense response and downregulation of myeloid cell activation in blood cells (https://doi.org/10.1101/202... "https://doi.org/10.1101/2020.11.10.374777)").
On 2020-11-19 07:37:44, user Juan Miguel Antón Santos wrote:
I am glad to inform everyone that our paper is already peer-reviewed and published. It now includes information on 15111 patients.
You can find it here:
https://doi.org/10.1016/j.r...
Please cite this article as:
Casas-Rojo JM, Antón-Santos JM, Millán-Núñez-Cortés J, Lumbreras-Bermejo C, Ramos-Rincón JM, Roy-Vallejo E et al.. Clinical characteristics of patients hospitalized with COVID-19 in Spain: results from the SEMI-COVID-19 Registry. Rev Clin Esp. 2020;220:480–494.
On 2021-05-19 17:50:25, user marchenrion wrote:
This article has been accepted for publication in the International Journal of Epidemiology published by Oxford University Press.
The DOI for the version of record is https://doi.org/10.1093/ije....
On 2021-05-25 19:41:53, user rusbowden wrote:
A further point needs to be made, before we throw away our masks -- that masks do not help the individual wearer. This research barely touches on that, thus is open to be used politically to cause virus spread. And if an individual thought that this research showed that a mask does not help the wearer, it could cause many to shed their masks when it would be dangerous.
Here in my city, we just dropped off the "high risk" or "red" category last week, which means too many spreaders were walking around town, many willy nilly. Should I still be wearing a mask, can it stop the virus from getting to me? This study does not answer that question. If masks help as many studies shown or at least indicated, then public health officials need help now in getting the message out.
Let's backtrack and attempt the assumptive leap for a moment and try to affirm that this study points to a yet-proven truth, that all the wearing of masks was futile, because of the ineffectiveness of the mask only, which even causes problems for wearers. Let's try to affirm that with a thought experiment. Imagine with me that what got invented is the dream 100% mask back in April 2020, that (1) when worn, causes no discomfort or infection in the wearer and (2) completely prevents any wearer from being able to catch the covid virus. What if any difference would this have made to the results of this study? The hypotheses this leads to have to do with how human behavior and politics help viruses spread -- even in the face of mask-wearing.
For instance, consider the work of Ngaire Woods, founding dean of the Blavatnik School of Government and professor of Global Economic Governance at the University of Oxford. In his article, "What factors have determined how well countries have done in responding to the pandemic?," Richard Smith, a fellow of the Royal College of Physicians of Edinburgh, writes that "Woods identified three factors that had a strong influence on how well countries did," and, "The single most important factor, she argued, was effective collaboration between national and subnational governments."
Could this be translated for our purposes here, to be that there was little "subversion" by the populace too, that more successful countries had fewer parties or funerals where masks were shed, events which I witnessed and attended. It only takes one bullet to hit a target, so catch the target when the mask is off or down under the nose. In other words, if you were a virus, how would you enlist "subversive grandmother soldiers," say, to unmask around their grandchildren, allowing a snaking trail of the virus to spread from household to household. How many people broke their social bubbles?
On 2021-05-30 05:39:10, user FatBoy “JD” Diesel wrote:
Seeing people going back and forth here, but I'll just point this out:
If wearing masks are really that effective, as some claim, how are medical staff getting infected on the job despite the extra medical gear, protection, and protocols? The overwhelming majority of you can only provide conjecture at best. If medical staff adhering to strict sanitation protocols still get infected by a respiratory illness on site, what makes anyone believe that less effective equipment, or less physical coverage provided by said equipment, would be effective for a general population less equipped to adhere to stricter sanitation protocols?
On 2021-05-26 12:04:01, user zega wrote:
Paper has valid conclusions, but uses "work around" method to make that conclusion, this paper compares ACTUAL blood levels with positivity rate https://journals.plos.org/p...
On 2021-05-28 05:59:35, user ????? ????? wrote:
Hi, I'm Dr.Niaee and I was surprised that even basic data from our RCT is completely mispresented and is WRONG. We had 60 indivisuals in control groups and 120 in intervention groups and even this simple thing is mispresented.
On 2021-05-30 16:14:37, user wj wrote:
The amount of misrepresentation of data in this meta-analysis as outlined in below comments reaches the level of scientific misconduct, given that the Niaee RR was corrected but the associated conclusion was not. I have faith that peer reviewers will reject based on this glaring falsity if the authors do not retract beforehand.
On 2021-05-30 17:55:22, user fatlas wrote:
When the data for Niaee study was corrected for version 2 the weights given to the studies were also changed. The weights in figure 2 changed in a way that is hard to explain by the Niaee data fix alone.
Was any other parameter adjusted for version 2 than data for Niaee study? If so, on what basis was the other parameters changed?
On 2021-05-28 13:37:01, user Jose Usme wrote:
Here you can access the last published version: https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/a...<br /> DOI: 10.3201/eid2612.202969
On 2021-06-04 09:55:17, user Najmul Haider wrote:
This article is now published in the journal "Health Science reports". You can access to the full article free: https://doi.org/10.1002/hsr...
On 2021-06-04 14:47:57, user S Venkata Mohan wrote:
This pre-print has been peer-reviewed and published in 'Science of the Total Environment Journal', doi: https://doi.org/10.1016/j.s....
On 2021-06-04 19:54:51, user Nick Tustison wrote:
On 2021-06-07 06:20:19, user Srinivasan Madhavan wrote:
What's the quantified value of Antibody. Which testing method was used...is it ELISA .or ECILA . How is Humoral response comparable between an infected- non vaccinated individual versus non infected vaccinated individual please.
On 2021-06-09 13:47:00, user Angela Kelly wrote:
‘Vaccine MRNA was not found in breast milk’ did you look for the spike protein it that may have already manufactured in the mother?
On 2021-06-09 19:49:55, user Emily Russell wrote:
It's important to note that a null statistical finding does not indicate that there is no evidence of association. With only 1,359 individuals who were previously infected and unvaccinated, I question that this study has enough statistical power to support the bold claims in the discussion. I would like to see a power analysis as part of the final published work.
On 2021-06-10 14:55:18, user J.A. wrote:
The statistical analysis is invalid suffering from an very clear immortal time bias. This is really basic stats 101. There is a reason this pre-print has not been accepted in a peer-reviewed journal.
For a Kaplan-Meier survival analysis, groups need to be defined at baseline. For persons to have received >80 mg/kg cumulative HCQ dosing (where a standard 600mg dose could is ~8mg/kg/day), persons need to survive for 10 days. So Figure 2, compares those who survive to receive 10 days of HCQ versus all others This is an immortal time bias.
As 88% of people overall received HCQ, likely a large proportion of those 40% who died before day 10 received HCQ (at max only ~12% could not have received HCQ).
The authors should re-do their analysis using a Cox-regression with a time-dependent covariate for receiving HCQ.
On 2021-06-11 10:21:12, user wolvverinepld wrote:
You not use correct mortality excess data per age adjusted:
"Many early reports comparing excess deaths resulting from the COVID-19 <br /> pandemic did not take account of population size, age distribution and <br /> focussed mainly on the first phase of the pandemic. Here, we provide <br /> updated estimates of excess mortality rates overall of 2020, <br /> standardised to a reference population"
On 2021-06-14 04:23:29, user Eyad Qunaibi wrote:
This article has been peer-reviewed and published: <br /> https://elifesciences.org/a...
On 2021-03-19 14:42:27, user NermeenHM wrote:
I am so impressed with the extent of effort exerted on this paper and how it was deployed on such a large number of participants in the Arab world! Frankly, I never expected anything to come out of our part of the world with this high level of proficiency and accuracy + all this amount of participation. That’s quite a big number to be disregarded or dismissed particularly when, being a part of the Arab world myself, I know that it reflects a great deal of what we see around us and hear from friends, neighbors, colleagues and relatives. These results explain so much about how people think in this part of the world, also a lot more about the “why?” and the “who?” which were missing from the blurred and (usually) foggy picture when it comes to accurate figures and surveys. We’ re always “undocumented” in so many ways even with a pandemic looming high above our heads! Indeed, the issue of Covid vaccination is not something to be trifled with or treated lightly! I would highly recommend two things:
First: I quote the conclusion, “With the highly dynamic nature of the pandemic and vaccine production process and the interplay of ever-changing factors that affect vaccine acceptance, our study needs to be replicated at a later time to measure the change in public acceptance.” Yes please, that would be something really beneficial + informative.
Second: Due to the great importance of the topic and the rapid impinging of Covid on the<br /> world map and our societies, you should accept this paper to help others make use of its findings.
On 2021-06-18 19:40:48, user Ivan Sudofsky wrote:
Would it be ethical to quote directly from the study?<br /> "There were no notable differences in symptom duration or severity between the treatment groups over the 28 days."
It may clear virus from the limited compartment of the nasal mucosa, but fail to be effective at the lungs or the circulatory epithelia, where the most severe symptoms arise.
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On 2021-09-29 22:14:43, user Hiam dodu wrote:
Saudi has very low rate of infection since the beginning and the conclusion contradicts what the manufacturer revealed.
On 2021-06-20 12:22:57, user Hlodovic wrote:
Has anyone given consideration to the fact that Ivermectin is administered to animals for intestinal parasites (worms, mainly)? Could it be that the ivermectin used in this study killed some kind of parasite common to most humans, thereby relieving the natural defense system from that fight and allowing it to attack the virus full force. Being already exercised by the battle of the parasites, the defense system would be strong. Suddenly relieving it of that battle could be like when you go in your car, but it seems to require that you give it a lot of extra gas. You realize the parking brake is on and release it. So the car suddenly takes off, throwing you back in the seat.
On 2021-06-24 15:13:53, user dami Onifade wrote:
In paragraph describing table 3. "these results would indicate effectiveness of 45% and 76% respectively for B.1.617.2" How have you derived these estimates?
On 2021-06-24 20:22:50, user Mikko Heikkilä wrote:
It seems that the Adjusted Odds Ratios are not all adjusted for covariates but are Crude Odds Ratios. This is for at least Macintyre 2015 and 2016 and Aiello 2010 and 2012 papers.
It is worth noting that even some of these are erroneous as for example Aiello et al. 2010 subtracted individuals with previous respiratory infections and therefore the intervention groups for mask and hand hygiene were actually 316 (367 in Ollila et al.) and for the mask only 347 (378 in Ollila et al.). As previously reported to Ollila et al for their first version (published 8/2020) if the aim is to define the effect of the mask as intervention using the results from both intervention groups does not render robust results.
Also, for the Abdin et al. 2005 paper the original intervention groups were 257 (mask and Health Education booklet), 292 (HE booklet only) and 446 (control). It is apparent that Ollila et al. used the compliance within the groups as redefining the groups: mask+HE booklet compliance 81.3% (209), HE booklet group compliance 51.7% (151) and control group using masks 33.6% (150). New intervention group 150+151+209=510 and control 995-510=485. Abdin et al. only reported the adjusted OR with these compliance based groups and no RR or OR based on the original Randomised Control Trial protocol. As Ollila et al. is by the authors a systematic review and meta-analysis of Randomised Control Trials these results should not be used as they have.
More, from the Simmerman et al. 2011 Ollila et al. chose only the Influenza Like Illness (ILI) results for their meta-analysis even though Simmerman et al. also reported PCR confirmed infections. For the sub-analysis with Adjusted Odds Ratios Ollila et al. preferred to use the PCR confirmed results from the same paper with OR 1.16 (95% CI 0.74-1.82) instead of the ILI results that were OR 2.15 (95% CI 1.27-3.62). The latter would push the pooled result much more towards the null hypothesis.
The same goes for the Cowling et al. 2009 where the authors reported respiratory infections based on three criteria: RT-PCR confirmed, Clinical definition 1 (2 symptoms) and Clinical definition 2 (3 symptoms). Ollila et al. only used the Clinical definition 2 results for their meta-analysis.
With these and all previously reported research flaws one can only conclude that the conclusions of Ollila et al. are not supported by the results if calculated correctly.
On 2021-03-14 17:30:22, user Vikingman wrote:
Hi<br /> Would there be an updated version of the table in page 7 of the PDF other than 29 January? Thanks. Keep up the amazing work.
On 2021-03-17 20:32:20, user Alessia Visconti wrote:
Now published in the British Journal of Dermatology (https://onlinelibrary.wiley... "https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/bjd.19807)")
On 2021-03-19 17:43:57, user Kebbiet wrote:
Wait.....what were the mother's antibody titres BEFORE the vaccination? "Covid naïve" could be asymptomatic natural antibody formation after a year of frontline care provided during the pandemic. As with PCR testing, a negative result is only good at the time the test sample was obtained. As soon as the patient leaves the testing site, they may be exposed and turn positive from that exposure. To establish true Covid naivety, we would need to know whether there were detectable maternal antibodies immediately before administration of the 1st shot. A negative antibody test 6 months prior is of no value in establishing a direct connection of neonatal antibodies to the vaccine. We already know that Covid+ mothers have given birth to babies with detectable antibodies. We are missing a correlation step in this analysis.
On 2021-04-05 00:50:51, user Brandon Grant wrote:
The authors conducted secondary analyses to examine the effect of study type on the outcome of mortality for the studies of SARS-CoV-2 that were included in the primary analysis. However, the authors do not mention conducting secondary analyses to examine the same correlative relationship for any of the studies of any other virus besides SARS-CoV-2. This lack of equivalent data analyses and resulting lack of homogeneous comparisons of outcomes renders any conclusion based on the aforementioned data null and void.
On 2021-04-09 01:13:34, user Patrick Palmieri wrote:
Did a large number of COVID-19 infected people seeking health services at EsSalud know they were not receiving evidence-based interventions? In addition, were EsSalud leaders aware there were five different 'treatment groups' as well as a ‘control’ group? Thanks to the researchers of this manuscript, we can now ask for more details to address previous 'rumors' about poor clinical management of people with COVID-19. This point is especially important as the EsSalud hospitals have been sealed to family and visitors. As such, patients are left in these hospitals without advocates for their safety and wellbeing.
Although the current study presents an ‘observational cohort’ design, we need to ask about the circumstances, structures and processes, that resulted in the original data reported in this manuscript. The researchers clearly stated they ‘compare[d] five treatment groups to the standard of care treatment regimen, as a control group....’ To this point we need to ask how could these six groups (with significant variations from the care standard) be organically organized from the existing patient population at EsSalud? In this regard, I am not claiming the researchers did anything wrong, but we need to understand how EsSalud ignored or facilitated the reported situation. In fact, we should thank the researchers for exposing some potential issues only believed to be unsubstantiated rumors in the previous months. Again, we need to recognize the vulnerability of patients as there were no family members present to be advocates in the EsSalud hospitals.
In explaining the possibility for five treatment groups and one control group at EsSalud, the researchers added ‘...decision to administer one of these treatment groups depended on clinician’s own criteria guided by the Ministry of Health recommendations, which was changing over time according to updated evidence-based reviews...’ Given the fact that EsSalud is the social security system for workers in Peru with separate clinical practice guidelines claimed to be based on evidence, this statement indicates the quality of care and standards of medical practice were not monitored by EsSalud. Again, this is concerning as the patients were vulnerable, without family advocates, and there is no statement in the manuscript about the normal informed consent process for clinical management.
The current observational study indicates there was a single ‘standard treatment’ authorized yet five alternative protocols were implemented as seemingly 'n of 1' studies. How were physicians in EsSalud able to clinically manage patients with unapproved protocols that significantly varied from the evidence? Were EsSalud leaders aware of the deficiencies in clinical management that probably contributed to the deaths of many patients? As a matter of normal clinical management did each patient consent to the treatment they received understanding there were more effective treatments available?
From the information reported in this manuscript, the clinical management of patients with COVID-19 at EsSalud needs to be reviewed by external authorities to determine the possibility of clinical negligence, medical malpractice, unethical conduct, unauthorized research, and/or illegal activities. Again, I want to emphasize these comments are in no way focused on the researchers. I sincerely appreciate the researchers exposing several serious ethical concerns that have only been rumors for months.
On 2021-08-01 07:53:29, user Dlya Truby wrote:
Folks read "Supplementary Appendix" page 12: Deaths: Vaccinated group - 15; Placebo (unvaccinated): - 14.
On 2021-07-29 16:28:46, user aep wrote:
link to competing interest statement broken
On 2021-07-31 09:03:45, user Eli Baied wrote:
Per abstract, vaccine efficacy at 6-months 97% for severe disease. It seems logical to me to vaccinate the unvaccinated globally in hope to better control this pandemic.
On 2021-08-01 00:45:40, user Michael Kowalik wrote:
18 deaths in the study group and 16 in the control group, so (at best) zero lives saved from Covid.
On 2021-08-06 22:27:57, user Ewin Barnett wrote:
Am I the only person wondering where the discussion of the autopsy results was published? In fact VAERS is now easily over 5,000 vaccine-related deaths yet zero autopsies.
On 2021-09-02 13:44:56, user ABO FAN wrote:
I do not understand the meaning of this paper at all.<br /> 1. There is no statistically significant difference between one and two corona deaths. This means that the vaccine is not effective.<br /> 2. The test period is until March 13, 2021, therefore the current mainstream delta strains were not tested.
On 2021-04-16 18:14:19, user Judy Hodge wrote:
I am curious what vaccine the mother that was tandem feeding received? Also am I reading your data correct that the Moderna elicited a higher IgA response in breastmilk?
On 2021-04-16 18:43:40, user Lee Rague wrote:
This paper has been published in the Journal of Nursing Management
On 2021-04-28 07:44:22, user Lee Rague wrote:
this paper is now published
On 2021-04-17 17:36:18, user Mando Dido wrote:
This article available at:
On 2021-04-22 18:18:59, user friidrottare wrote:
What about the protection against the variants, such as the South-African ?
On 2021-04-23 13:52:16, user Dijon Mustard wrote:
The title says "up to 12 months", the abstract says "at least 12 months". Please change the title to accurately reflect the paper's findings.
On 2021-04-24 20:59:22, user Mike wrote:
The study looked only at infected people, but many writing articles about this study fail to emphasise this properly. As a result, this study is misinterpreted by many as saying: "Instead of protecting you, being vaccinated increases the chance of being infected with the South African variant by a factor of eight." I think the study needs to be updated to warn against this possible misinterpretation, which is very common. Even I have fallen for it initially, and only reading the news article twice clarified for me that's not actually the case.
I'm getting tired of correcting people, and explaining that 100% of the people from the study were infected, so automatically if the vaccine protects better against some virus variants, the percentage of other virus variants in the sample will increase.
This quote from one of the authors doesn't help: "We found a disproportionately higher rate of the South African variant among people vaccinated with a second dose, compared to the unvaccinated group,” Tel Aviv University's Adi Stern said. “This means that the South African variant is able, to some extent, to break through the vaccine's protection.”
Even Dr. Fauci agrees with me: "Speaking directly to the Israeli study, Fauci said it was misleading and makes it sound like people who get two doses of the Pfizer vaccine have a higher chance of COVID infection than unvaccinated people."
On 2021-04-25 15:33:39, user Tam Hunt wrote:
This study is conflating deaths with covid with deaths caused by lockdown measures bc it employs the UK standard definition of a covid deaths as follows:
In the UK, all-cause death by 28-days post confirmation of SARS-CoV-2 infection is the standard definition of SARS-CoV-2 mortality,8 so we used death from any cause as the primary outcome. In sensitivity analysis restricted to people diagnosed with SARS-CoV-2 a minimum of 28-days prior to the censoring date, and logistic regression with deaths censored beyond 28-days the results were consistent.
On 2021-04-26 14:10:09, user Peter wrote:
"…patients receiving these drugs should be prioritized for optimally timed second doses."
But what is the "optimal" timing for a second dose?
It takes time for the immune system to respond to the first dose. In general, extending the prime-boost interval leads to a greater eventual response.
This paper suggests that patients on TNF blockers may not respond as well to a single dose, so delaying the second dose may leave them at risk for longer.
Perhaps the answer may be that such patients are likely to benefit from an additional, early booster dose, followed by a third dose (a second booster dose) when their immune systems have had more time to respond to the first doses.
On 2021-04-28 13:32:34, user Huijghebaert Suzanne wrote:
This study poses a number of relevant questions to resolve, before concluding on efficacy. To start: calculating backwards, the number of PCR negative symptomatic subjects (31 in total) were comparable in both treatment groups, suggesting that all differences over the 21 days of treatment were accounted for solely by COVID-19, so strangely, the spray – in contrast to what is claimed – would not prevent other common colds....! So, how much analytical flaw, how much efficacy?<br /> 1) Calculating the % back in carrageenan+saline versus saline alone 7.6% corresponds to 15 and 8.6%<br /> to 17 subjects each respectively, totaling 32 instead of 31: where is the incorrect overlap, 1 person too<br /> much calculated as +?<br /> 2) Most importantly, which PCR test did you use and how did you assure that carrageenan did not interfere with the PCR assay? Cfr Ribeiro 18th Apr, 2013, asking for a safe way to remove carrageenan from RNA samples and reporting that after RNA extraction (by Trizol), reverse transcription and real time PCR, only the control group (saline injected, without carrageenan) had positive amplification, while carrageenan interfered<br /> with the reaction. <br /> 3) The impact of carrageenan may additionally also already interfere at the sampling stage by affecting/reducing the RNA loading, leading to less<br /> positive results (cfr Laurie et al.). Also that step should be validated.<br /> 4) As the difference moreover is very small, and the outbreaks in health care personal often concerns clusters within a same division, how do the individual data relate to different clusters within given departments?
Without proper profound validation the PCR test(s) in presence of various carrageenan concentrations, the findings may not translate in a true benefit, but possibly mask (so missed) viral positivity and so falsely hide transmission events. Unless validated in detail, the combination of already reported reduced PCR-response (due to carrageenan) in the nasal samples and case clustering may possibly annihilate all differences of significance.
Suzy Huijghebaert, Belgium
On 2021-04-29 16:16:17, user George Orwell wrote:
FYI these comments were posted to the previous version of this article:
BenSahn<br /> 2 days ago<br /> I'm one of those people. I had Rituximab infusions in November for IgG4-RD. In March I got the J&J COVID vaccine while on a low dose of prednisone. Last week, after a few weeks off prednisone, blood test showed I had no COVID anti-bodies.<br /> Reply<br /> –<br /> Avatar<br /> Risham S<br /> 22 days ago<br /> What about therapies like entyvio? Can anyone shed some light on that? Many thanks for the study , a great help for CID patients like me. Appreciate it.<br /> 1 <br /> Reply<br /> –<br /> Avatar<br /> David Rubin Risham S<br /> 20 days ago<br /> Entyvio (vedolizumab) is selective to a T cell subset and doesn't affect your B cell immune response. Early data in IBD show no difference in titers after mRNA vaccinations.
On 2021-05-07 12:57:59, user Melissa Y wrote:
As acknowledged by the authors, some of them are co-founders of a company that is developing a product based on this technology. After three months of use, there was no significant difference between the stimulation and control groups on any standard measure of cognitive function. There was a significant difference on a name-face association task for a very few subjects. There was no significant difference between the groups in hippocampal atrophy. The data reported in the paper appear to conflict with what is stated in the abstract. The mostly negative results are consistent with the negative results reported by the company. These are just facts.
On 2021-05-09 00:18:01, user Minga wrote:
The focus on a comparison between household vs non household contacts hide the lack of any comparison between schools, offices, or factories contacts vs non job-related contacts.
On 2021-05-09 20:43:42, user Tiago Pereira wrote:
Great work! Very very important piece of information. I would suggest to calculate the 95% predictive interval, the range of incidence expected in 95% of the populations. See: Ioannidis JPA, Rovers MM,. et al. Plea for routinely. presenting prediction. intervals in meta-analysis. BMJ Open 2016;6:e010247. I don't think the weights from the random-effects model are 100% appropriate. It would be nice to have a sensitivity analysis via a "fixed-effects" model with weights proportional to the (approximate) number of people in each of those populations.
On 2021-05-11 17:34:07, user Joe Smith wrote:
Table 2 is interesting. It looks like, compared to 'other cancer (non-ADT)', the ADT patients had higher rates of infection (raw data). Looks like the table S2 suggests men taking ADT are more likely to get tested than...all non-ADT? all other cancer (non-adt)? I don't know what the comparator is for S2. But I don't see an OR listed in S2 for 'all other cancer (non ADT). Hopefully that was used in the creation of the Table 2, but it wasn't presented in S2.
I'm no statistician, but it seems like some of the covariates would interact; eg african americans may be less likely to get tested than white people overall, but maybe african americans with cancer are just as likely to get tested as white people with cancer. Hopefully someone can add some detail on this point, I'd like to know more.
I also note table 2 has a lower n than table 3, meaning some ADT+, COVID tested patients didn't have matching controls so were not included in this analysis (62/295~20%). For all subjects, a much lower % (6.7%, 1666/25006) were excluded from Table 2 for not having 5 matching controls. I wonder why it was so much more difficult to find matches for the ADT patients, and if this could have affected the outcome.
Finally, Table S3 is very important, and I believe should be added to the body. This table "Association between ADT use and SARS-CoV-2 positivity and COVID-19 severity among prostate cancer patients".
The percent of severe disease cases is very similar (22% vs 23% unadjusted) p~0.9 (propensity matched). So, when you are directly comparing the outcomes in men with prostate cancer, ADT does NOT result in fewer cases of severe disease.
Appreciate the timely work and sharing the prepublished article!
On 2021-05-12 11:20:59, user Rajesh K. Pandey, MD wrote:
Our arsenal of treatment options against COVID-19 remains very limited. For this reason re-exploration of the use of anti-inflammatory medications is imperative. A case in point is the use of colchicine against COVID-19. There is abundant data demonstrating colchicine's effects on lowering hs-crp in turn lowering risk of ACS. As supported by LoDoCo2 and Colchicine-PCI trials, Colchicine halved the risk of CV events vs placebo. In the COLCOT trial we saw a decrease in the combined primary endpoint of stroke; MI; CV death, CV arrest and resuscitation. In the COPS study, a benefit was seen in patients within 3 days of an MI. Overall amongst the above studies colchicine showed a benefit in CV outcomes. Therefore we take issue regarding the claim that colchicine increases the risk of PE. In our combined 50-60 years in practice, we have not had any incidents of PE in our 100's of patients treated with colchicine. Dr. Tracy Hampton's publication on February 2nd, 2021 in JAMA described the phenomenon that autoantibodies may drive COVID-19 blood clots, similar to patients with Anti-phospholipid syndrome. The statistical analysis of the COLCORONA trial may have done an injustice to known benefits of colchicine. We should continue to remain open minded on colchicine's potential therapeutic applications. Thank you.
On 2021-08-10 14:49:04, user Dr. Chris Bird wrote:
This looks like very nice work. You have not, however, estimated "Total Immunity" as claimed. You have estimated how many people have been infected, which is very useful. To get "total immunity", you have to incorporate the growing body of literature on the probability of not being immune even if you have recovered (Cavanaugh et al 2021) or been vaccinated (Sheikh et al 2021 as one example). That will substantially decrease the estimate of immune and help to explain why the July-August 2021 surge is occurring.
On 2021-08-13 12:38:20, user TKREGER wrote:
This study relies on the PCR test, which has been proven to be flawed in regards to accessing Covid infection in individuals. Until we have a reliable testing procedure, this and other Covid studies relying on the PCR test, are of little real use.
On 2021-09-18 17:00:44, user Ruben wrote:
Would love to see events stratified by age. There are almost 700 more people age > 65 in the biontech group as compared to moderna. With total hospitalizations being only 43 and icu only 7 patients for pfizer vaccine, it makes you wonder how much of this is skewed by age.
On 2021-09-03 18:17:49, user Sam Wheeler wrote:
What if someone takes 30mcg Pfizer Comirnaty on left arm, and immediately goes to other vaccination site and takes 30mcg Pfizer also on right arm? 60mcg total.<br /> Could this be more efficient? Even better than 100mcg in the same arm?<br /> Or would it be even better to get 60mcg in the same arm, but separated by a small distance? Would the latter vaccinator notice it and refuse to vaccinate if she/he sees the arm?
Moderna has 100mcg of mRNA.
30mcg is ridiculously small amount, as I believe they are testing exactly this 30mcg Pfizer dose even for children who are 6 months or older.
On 2021-08-14 13:55:30, user Don Elbert wrote:
Nice work. There is a typo saying that p < 0.5 is significant. Are there any barriers to applying a GLM with age and time elapsed from 2nd dose as continuous covariates (ANCOVA) on the whole dataset?
On 2021-08-19 17:13:00, user Frank Ploegman wrote:
Thank you for this excellent and extremely important study.
On 2021-08-21 21:15:54, user HarryT wrote:
Virus mutation frequency is somewhat constant. Vaccinated human hosts changed the outcome of the selection out of a pool of mutant viruses.
On 2021-07-03 09:59:14, user Steven Kelly wrote:
Useful results! The other SARS-CoV-2 vaccine effectiveness studies use +14 days after the second dose, so I'd suggest you extend to include that date too before publishing. The definition of 'infection' here seems to be 'positive result on test taken by subject based on own symptoms or known exposure' — so somewhere between 'symptomatic infection' and 'infection'. In other studies of Pfizer on the Alpha variant, VE for symptomatic infection [1] vs. infection [2] is 49% vs. 30% at 1 dose + 21 days, and 93% vs. 90% at 2 doses +14 days, so the exact definition can be quite important. <br /> [1] https://www.bbc.com/news/uk...<br /> [2] https://www.nejm.org/doi/fu...
On 2021-07-11 19:31:18, user geek49203 wrote:
Published reports state: "“The big takeaway was that if you are not vaccinated, and were not previously infected, one, you have a very high risk getting infected—24 percent of employees over a year tested positive." (Epoch times). But I see only 254 out of 4,313, which is 5.8%. Even allowing for a doubling of the timeline (to a full year?) that's around 11-12%, which is fairly in line with what the Brits published in May in The Lancet.<br /> SECOND - it's obvious to me that there is a likelihood that the number of infections are seasonal. IF those who got injections were vaccinated on the downward slope (ie, Feb 21 forward) instead of the upward slope of Dec 20-Jan 21, wouldn't the results be much different? So studying those who got the vaccine would have to take into account the prevailing non-study environment, correct? A non-vaccinated person wasn't very likely to get COVID in June of this year, or June of last year, correct?
On 2021-07-12 20:50:31, user David Epperly wrote:
Some good details. Should add diary info from each of the infected as available to include: recollection of interactions with patients 0a and 0b and 0b's recollection of all interactions with all infected. Each interaction should include distance, time, and environment. More info about tent structure, identity blurred photos of event wide-shots, and historical prevailing wind conditions for area. Help us understand how transmission likely occurred. Also state relationships of each infected (spouse, close friend, acquaintance, ...) to help understand likely interaction levels. It appears 0a and 0b are related. Tell us. Move info on Delta into a supplement and focus on details of the event. Create a supplement for additional event / relationship / transmission details. Capture more of what happened.
On 2021-07-13 11:53:38, user DflippinK wrote:
How many SARS Cov-2 genomes are isolated to a single strain?
On 2021-07-16 20:44:43, user temporalista wrote:
I reviewed the spreadhseet and replicated the computations in different software for both analysis (R) and visualisation (PowerBI, Tableau). In all cases the formulae seems correct and consistent.
I've been able to follow the modelling reasoning (is not complicated) and check the referenced sources. It seems consistent.
On 2021-07-16 22:51:17, user Leo G. wrote:
Another way to slow down immune escape might be prophylaxis (IVM or HCQ + Zinc), starting about a week before the first jab and ending (or calculated to end) when the person acquires maximum immunity.
On 2021-07-21 20:13:20, user Dean Karlen wrote:
The first claim in the title (vaccines dampen diversity) is not substantiated.
Linear entropy is a measure of how evenly spread are the lineages. As stated, if for one month all sequences are the same lineage (no diversity), then the measure is zero… on the other hand if the sequences are evenly distributed amongst all 1296 lineages, the value is about 7. When a VOC appears, it is labelled a VOC precisely because a large number of cases are seen of that lineage! So, of course, when VOCs begin to dominate the linear entropy decreases.
Figure 1 shows that starting in January 2021, just as alpha becomes dominant, linear entropy begins to decline as expected. January 2021 happens to be the time that mass vaccination gets underway - so it is not clear how much (or if any) of the reduced diversity is due to vaccination.
The second claim in the title (regarding breakthrough infections) is questionable. The sample size is small and no statistical test is presented that supports the claim of greater diversity in the unvaccinated compared to vaccinated.
On 2021-07-22 10:33:41, user David Simons wrote:
Hi,
Thanks for sharing this data, it may be interesting to include descriptives for those that were test negative for COVID-19.
Also in table 1 your numbers for smoking status do not appear to be accurate. You seem to be missing 2,610 smoking statuses for your COVID-19 positive sample.
On 2021-07-23 11:43:39, user andyround wrote:
Fascinating, thanks. What I can’t square between studies like yours and the one on cynomolgus monkeys on the one hand, and the range of estimates of sizes of droplets in respiratory exhalations on the other (as recently reviewed by Lydia Bourouiba for example), is how the quantity of viral RNA apparently scales with the *number* of droplets rather than their volume. It implies that the concentration of viruses per droplet is hugely dependent on the size of the droplet and I can’t think of a mechanism to achieve this - are viruses massively self-repelling? (over micron-scale distances?) Are they highly surface active? I wonder if you have thought about this.
On 2021-07-27 01:29:32, user Vaskor Basak wrote:
Thank you very much for sharing this paper. I am interested to know what lag time was assumed between infections and deaths when calculating or inferring the CFR figures. Was it possible to use a distribution of variable lag times, based on real life data, for more sophisticated modelling? Also, has the lag time increased and/or CFR decreased as new medical interventions have slowed down the rapid onset of Covid-19 for severe cases requiring hospitalisation, since the beginning of the pandemic?
On 2021-07-29 07:39:07, user ncn wrote:
Will this preprint be submitted to a peer-review journal? Wish the research team all the best.
On 2021-07-29 08:08:57, user Salvatore Chirumbolo wrote:
The evidence that acetaminophen (paracetamol) worsened the rate of hospitalization in COVID-19 patients respect to NSAIDs such as indomethacin, is the major highlight of this contribution. The Italian Ministry of Health (Nov 30th 2020) recommended only paracetamol and a watchful attitude during the early onset of COVID-19, to simply dampen fever and related pain (see https://www.bmj.com/content... "https://www.bmj.com/content/368/bmj.m1086/rr-18)"). So, NSAIDs are not dangerous for early and mild COVID-19 as initially believed, whereas paracetamol is. In this perspective, in Italy a wide community of citizens, professionals, physicians, caregivers, practitioners, attorneys and so on, joined together to promote the best COVID-19 home therapy at the earliest (within first three days from positive swab or symptoms), to reduce hospitalization (and mortality), as paracetamol exacerbates COVID-19 immuno-thrombosis, probably leading even to death (see Pandolfi S, Simonetti V, Ricevuti G, Chirumbolo S. Paracetamol in the <br /> home treatment of early COVID-19 symptoms: A possible foe rather than a <br /> friend for elderly patients? J Med Virol. 2021 Jun 25. doi: <br /> 10.1002/jmv.27158). Hoping that politics may take into account the evidence reported by the current medical science.
On 2021-07-29 12:52:04, user Erik Widen wrote:
Please note that the published version contains both corrected and more expansive information and supplants this preprint for all purposes. It is available through the link above or use https://doi.org/10.3390/gen....
On 2021-07-30 00:51:33, user Les Campbell wrote:
Your method seems insecure.<br /> Firstly there were no vaccinations during your “wild type “ period. There were during your alpha and delta periods. How have you controlled for this? Have you considered findings in USA and Israel that vaccine adverse reactions have influenced your results?<br /> Secondly just because you have defined periods when variants were of concern it does not follow that the women in your study had that variant without sequencing for each subject. <br /> Thirdly why do you recommend that pregnant women should get the vaccine? Women of child bearing age are at very small risk of death or severe complications. <br /> What were the cohort numbers? Especially for the delta variant? <br /> Why were no pregnant women treated with therapeutics or given simple vitamins and minerals or antibiotics (pneumonia) as they would be in many other countries?
On 2021-08-01 17:03:27, user imogen88 wrote:
Why didn’t they breakdown the vaccinated by specific vaccine formulation? It would be very helpful to see if there’s a significant difference in viral load by vaccines among different age and risk groups.
On 2021-08-03 21:39:28, user Fruit Gal 522 wrote:
Judging from how long ago this was published...June 1, and it's now Aug. 3, it's taking excessively long for this to be peer reviewed. Sources from a google search say it should take 3-4 weeks to review.
On 2021-08-03 23:09:01, user Ankita Bag wrote:
Hi,<br /> Can I get an access to this code.<br /> Thanks in advance.
On 2021-08-04 08:41:37, user ingokeck wrote:
Dear authors,
Thanks for this fascinating study! I am really surprised that you only found 6+3=9 cases in your sample.
Your sample corresponds to 60/330=18% of the population of the US. If we assume that it is representative, this means in the whole US there were only ca. 50 cases of myocarditis in 12-17y old in total. Using the estimation of the CDC that 37% of all kids were infected (see https://www.cdc.gov/coronav... Table 2), this is a rate of just 50 in 30,000,000*37%, thus 4.5 cases per million infected.
So, the risk of myocarditis from Covid-19 is 4.5 cases per million infected and factor 100 smaller than what you report in your result, probably because your cases in the dataset are mostly hospitalized which make only a very small subgroup (ca. 1%) of all cases in this age group.
Compared to the risk from the mRNA vaccines of 10 per million (your source) or rather 333 per million based on the results from Israel (1:3000), the risk from the vaccination is 2 to 100 times greater than the risk from a Covid-19 infection.
I would appreciate it very much if you could correct your calculation to the correct base infection rate as given by the CDC, and also discuss why you assume a smaller vaccine risk than the data from Israel suggests.
On 2021-08-04 15:55:17, user Hassan Rostam wrote:
The article has been publishet @ New Microbes and New Infections
On 2021-08-09 15:16:23, user VT wrote:
Please do not post docx-files. Some researchers will be unable to download those files due to security concerns.<br /> Thanks!
On 2021-09-12 05:30:50, user kdrl nakle wrote:
William Brooks talks nonsense. The increase in mg household secondary infections could easily be the result of prior infections (before lockdowns) as a source of infection. It could have easily happen, perhaps even worse without lockdown. And indeed the hospitals in NYC, Brkln and Qns were overflowing with patients. But when you have political slant it is hard to think, isn't it?
On 2021-09-12 13:38:28, user synchromystic wrote:
"As no vaccine is 100% effective".<br /> Really?<br /> I'd love to see the breakthrough cases of polio, small pox and many other viruses.
On 2021-09-12 21:59:19, user Swapnil Hiremath wrote:
<reposting with="" minor="" edits="" as="" disqus="" thought="" last="" one="" was="" spam="" for="" some="" reason=""><br /> The authors have undertaken an ambitious project: briefly, taking numerators from the VAERS database, denominators from vaccine numbers from elsewhere. They then perform a ‘harm-benefit’ analysis looking at COVID hospitalization as the only harm. The whole analysis is restricted to the 12-17 age group in whom the concern of myocarditis is admittedly higher.<br /> They report a risk which was anywhere from 1.5 to 6.1 times higher for vaccine associated myocarditis vs COVID causing hospitalization. Vaccines must be bad, surely.
However, several problems are quickly apparent.<br /> 1. The rate of myocarditis is much higher than the ones reported in Ontario: 160/million for 12-15 males compared to 72.5/million from Ontario (which includes Moderna as well - which has higher rates of myocarditis than the Pfizer/BioNTech). Why would this be so? There are many possible reasons, including the overestimation from VAERS being probable cause. On a perusal of the supplement, there are many which are other viral diseases which could be the reason; additionally many descriptions are quite vague (‘the doctor told us troponin was elevated’). It is very easy to submit cases to VAERS, so the numbers reported could be an overestimate - proper case ascertainment with source documents is necessary to be sure of the cases. Needless to say, simple arithmetic to derive 'rates' is also problematic. The VAERS website specifically suggests the numbers should *not* be used for estimating rates.
3.Next, the authors make many assumptions when it comes to who had comorbidities and who did not among the children, and multiply numbers to come up with some crude estimates. It would be useful for a pediatric diseases researcher to assess these assumptions. The 40% assumption of children hospitalized 'with COVID' and not due to COVID is a very crude untruth that the authors and others have needlessly perpetuated on social media with little foundation.
Most importantly, the authors assume that hospitalization is the only bad thing for children who develop COVID. Some 12-17 years olds have died due to COVID, and some may have had a 1 day hospital stay - their analysis treats these equally and incorrectly. Some teens developed MIS-C. Some developed longer term sequelae. To group them under ‘hospitalization’ seems overly simplistic. Similarly, from perusing some of the vaccine-myocarditis, many seem to have recovered with symptomatic care alone. The authors seem to be minimizing COVID and maximizing vaccine associated adverse events.
It should be noted that the involvement of children in the first two waves seems to be different than the one we have seen in the last 2 months with delta (for whatever reason - perhaps with lower immunization numbers in these).
Lastly, the pandemic is not yet done. Many more children are going to get COVID in the next few months and years. We are going to have many more hospitalization, morbidity and sadly many more deaths. There will be long term morbidity and sequalae. We do need better data to assess the risks and benefits. This study is not it.
Unfortunately this study has been picked up uncritically by media and will worsen vaccine hesitancy. This seems unwise in the face of an ongoing pandemic.
On 2021-09-13 21:04:36, user Thomas Mohr wrote:
If I review a paper, I start with the methods section. So let us do this:
Quote: "We searched the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) data for <br /> females and males ages 12-17 in reports processed from 1/1/2021 through <br /> 6/18/2021 with diagnoses of “myocarditis,” “pericarditis,” <br /> “myopericarditis” or “chest pain” in the symptom notes and required the <br /> term “troponin” in the laboratory data. We defined a CAE using the CDC <br /> working case definition for a probable case."
As others, and VAERs, have pointed out, the VAERs database can not be used to do this.
Quote: "Cases and hospitalizations with an unknown dose number were assigned to dose 1 or dose 2 in the same proportion as the known doses: 15% occurred following dose 1 and 85% occurred following dose 2."
Nope. That is not how it works. Incomplete data have to be excluded.
Where is the proper prior probability of myocarditis?
At this point latest I would stop reviewing and return the verdict: reject without encouragement to resubmit.
On 2021-09-10 19:50:39, user Roger Seheult wrote:
Were you able to exclude the subjects from VAERS based on SARS-CoV-2 positivity? Was it even known if they had tested positive for SARS-CoV-2?
On 2021-09-13 09:36:17, user Michal wrote:
Excellent work! The link to direct-diabetes as in:
The IMI-DIRECT data access policy is available from www.direct-diabetes.org
does not seem to work. Also, the metabolite names (both on the plots and in the supplementary information) seem to be malformatted by R, it would be wonderful if you could restore clean names (with correct punctuation instead of dots) for the final publication.
On 2021-09-14 17:21:09, user Auriel Willette wrote:
Hi everyone, I am the Corresponding Author. Please note that Sara A. Willette's author affiliation was incorrect in the pre-print version of this article, and a correction has been filed with the journal. Specifically, her correct affiliation was and is IAC Tracker Inc, Ames, IA, USA. I apologize for any inconvenience. Thank you.
On 2021-09-19 09:24:45, user Cengiz Kiliç wrote:
Dear Dr Swedo et al,
We read with enthusiasm your consensus paper. We are looking forward to its publication, since it is very timely and much needed. We believe such a consensus, reached at by an international panel of experts, and using rigorous criteria, will be very helpful to set the main principles for advancing research, in an area where little is known. Such a clinical guideline will limit the circulation of several existing diagnostic criteria sets that have little relevance with the clinical presentation of the disorder. We especially appreciate your (strongly) emphasizing the fact that misophonia is a sound-sensitivity disorder, and not a disturbance of any sensory input.
At our Stress Assessment and Research Center (STAR) of Hacettepe University, Ankara, we have been conducting research on misophonia (as well as other stress disorders) since 2015. Our first study*, which was just published last month, presented prevalence rates on a random population sample, using our own proposed diagnostic criteria (it is a pity that our study did not appear in time to be included in your literature search). Our second study was a treatment study comparing the effects of psychoeducation, filtered music and exposure in 60 misophonic outpatients, which we are preparing for publication. Our follow-up study (of the population-study sample) is still ongoing. We touched upon the limitations of the existing proposed diagnostic criteria sets in our BJPsych paper’s supplement, and would be happy to share our views in more detail (if requested).
Sincerely,
Cengiz Kiliç, Professor of psychiatry<br /> Gökhan Öz, psychiatrist <br /> Burcu Avanoglu, psychiatrist<br /> Songül Aksoy, Professor of audiology<br /> Misophonia Research Group, Stress Assessment and Research Centre (STAR)<br /> Hacettepe University, Ankara<br /> Email: star@hacettepe.edu.tr<br /> Phone: +90-312-3051874
* Kiliç C, Öz G, Avanoglu KB, Aksoy S. The prevalence and characteristics of misophonia in Ankara, Turkey: population-based study. BJPsych Open. 2021 Aug 6;7(5):e144. doi: 10.1192/bjo.2021.978. PMID: 34353403; PMCID: PMC8358974
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On 2021-09-21 21:41:54, user tooearly wrote:
Did the authors mean to say 10 cases per 100,000?
On 2021-09-24 06:28:51, user gzuckier wrote:
I admit to not having perused either the comments here nor the blog sites listed above, however there is a viable alternative model for these results, other than the one posed in the conclusions.<br /> Firstly, from the small number of infections in either the vaccinated or the previously infected group, it's clear that we are looking at outliers here; not a general waning of immunity over the time period, but rather a minority of individuals in either group whose immune system did not respond fully for one reason or another.<br /> This highlights a rather striking conceptual difference between the two groups, however; a large proportion of any individuals with defective immune systems have already been eliminated from the previously infected group, by the initial Covid infection having killed them. This group as now tested would absolutely be expected to have fewer immune failures than the Covid-naive individuals making up the vaccinated, not previously infected group, and thus fewer infections and fewer hospitalizations.<br /> This interpretation, of course, also perfectly explains the reduction in infections and hospitalizations seen in the previously infected and vaccinated group, relative to those previously infected and not vaccinated.<br /> Unless some way can be found to eliminate the effect of this unintended selection bias, i.e. filtering out previously infected group members with persistent severe immune incompetence, this study can tell us nothing regarding the relative protections of vaccine vs "natural" immunity.
On 2021-09-01 06:52:27, user Jeffrey Bachant wrote:
The key model rests on ~260 total cases out of ~65,000 individuals between the cohorts. <br /> Cohort studies are biased towards statistical artifacts if the outcome of interest is rare. Thus, the main finding should be that delta infections in both cohorts is infrequent. The confidence intervals for the way cases bin between acquired immunity primed by viral infection vs vaxx is statistically only applicable to their cohort group. Whether it has predictive value in a larger setting is unexplored. It's clearly written in way that, just from what I've bumped into, has allowed it do be heavily talisman linked by the anti-vaxxer crowd. Its unfortunate.
On 2021-09-08 03:11:32, user TBonePickenz wrote:
Too much discussion for something that has ***not been peer reviewed*** <br /> Also bear in mind this is a retrospective study.<br /> The gist is vaccines < natural immunity < natural immunity + vaccine. It is unclear if the 3rd option is statistically significant in my read.
In the first part of the discussion, they say "Individuals who were previously infected with SARS-CoV-2 seem to gain additional protection from a subsequent single-dose vaccine regimen. Though this finding corresponds to previous reports, we could not demonstrate significance in our cohort." However, in the final paragraph of the discussion they say, "Notably, individuals who were previously infected with SARS-CoV-2 and given a single dose of the BNT162b2 vaccine gained additional protection against the Delta variant." <br /> This needs to be clarified in the peer review process.
What it does do (in the US which is swimming in unused vaccines) is open up the question of the necessity of vaccine mandates in those who have already had a natural infection.
On 2021-09-08 20:11:56, user David H wrote:
This is an interesting and potentially important study that seems to be playing into a political narrative - 'natural infection' vs vaccination. But before going there we need to acknowledge that it has not been fully analysed and the potential sources of bias have not been fully explored. In observational studies time is a critical factor and it is not clear how it has been handled in the analysis. There are no Kalpan Meier curves. Potential baseline confounding is partly addressed, but not time varying confounding. I cant find information on person time at risk in the three cohorts and that is critical, because it determines the periods during which individuals are at risk of reinfection or breakthrough infection. Is there an immortal time bias in the naturally infected cohort? Additionally, I cant see information on testing rates in the 3 cohorts - most infections will have been mild so this is critical. If testing rates (hypothetically) are lower after natural infection then that could introduce a major ascertainment bias. The study doesn't seem to have measures (or proxies) of health protecting behaviors, which may also be different between the groups. I am not saying that the results are wrong, rather that I think the authors need to complete more detailed analyses to address confounding, temporal selection and ascertainment biases.
On 2021-09-26 20:12:47, user kdrl nakle wrote:
Poorly written. Better paper:<br /> https://www.medrxiv.org/con...
On 2021-09-29 07:40:06, user Richard Stone wrote:
How many people are in the study? Human chemistry is very complex. Some markers work well with some people and not so well with others.
On 2021-10-03 07:08:57, user kdrl nakle wrote:
Midwestern state? Write South Dakota, what is the point of obfuscation? A lot of stuff in this paper, nothing usable.
On 2021-10-14 09:10:21, user J Hung Tran wrote:
They just measured virus load/Ct at one timepoint, I wonder how the Ct value progress over the course of infection between groups?
On 2021-09-03 11:19:28, user Sam Wheeler wrote:
I noticed the main author Naaber worked at Synlab Eesti. <br /> Do you still use the same IgG spike test for customers of Synlab Eesti and Synlab Finland? It is difficult for customers to interpret as the only information Synlab tells that the reference value is below 50 AU/mL. I was tested at Synlab and got about 6000 AU in June 2021 and about 4000 AU in August after two vaccinations and no covid-19 disease. Perhaps I should take a third dose already in September for maximum protection? I got my second dose in June.
On 2021-09-06 06:07:04, user William Brooks wrote:
The author estimates that Tokyo contains 6 infectious people for each person who tests PCR positive, which is probably an underestimate since the test positivity rate was over 20% during most of August. But even if the ratio is 6:1, this means Tokyo's infection fatality ratio outside of healthcare settings is below 0.01%, which hardly justifies the author's desire to search the city for health people who might have enough SARS-Cov2 DNA in their nose to return a positive result on a 40-cycle PCR test.
Also, the author seemingly doesn't know that the first three states of emergency (SoE) started after infections were already falling [1], making all three not just ineffective but also unnecessary. Overestimating the effects of non-pharmaceutical interventions, he calls for the government to copy policies that have failed throughout the world based on a superficial understanding of a few cherry-picked examples: Taiwan has has a 5.2% case fatality rate, so there are obviously a lot of infected people who don't get tested, while Australia and New Zealand are back in lockdown again after failing to "control the virus." Since there are more cost-effective pharmaceutical interventions for actual Covid patients, they should be prioritized.
On 2021-09-08 03:23:50, user Tim Hinchliff wrote:
This is such a great natural experiment to test lockdown efficacy. One wonders why it hasn't been published yet?
On 2021-09-10 07:18:16, user Michael Gardner wrote:
JimmyJoe6000, I have the same question. If you, or anyone else, has the answer please post it.
On 2021-09-10 18:07:48, user dm wrote:
After watching the delta varient spread effectively between vaccinated individuals it would be irresponsible to not cite the following from the study:
"This study has several limitations that must be considered. First, the study cohort size is small, thus making it hard to draw firm quantitative conclusions. Second, our study cohort is biased towards breakthrough infections that were detected in our on-campus screening programs (saliva-based RTqPCR at UIUC, nasal swab-based LAMP assay at NU). Finally, enrollment in this study concluded before the arrival of the Delta variant at either study site. It remains unclear how well the effects of vaccination on viral infection dynamics that we describe apply to Delta variant breakthrough infections, given the unique features12 and enhanced transmissibility13 of this variant relative to the viruses we captured here."
On 2021-11-30 12:53:37, user BSTL wrote:
This represents the first publication of data to support the use of closed system device components in pharmacy technical services such as dose banding in the UK where compliance with the NHS yellow cover document (YCD) guidelines is required.
On 2021-11-30 20:32:11, user Toa_Greening wrote:
Based upon MoH data 30/11/2021 Unvaccinated are 3.5x (8.21/2.35) likely to be hospitalised from a case of Covid not 25x.
No doses received prior to being reported as a case <br /> Cases 3518 Hospitalised 289 Hospitalisation rate 8.21%
Fully vaccinated at least 7 days before reported as a case <br /> Cases 1194 Hospitalised 28 Hospitalisation rate 2.35%
On 2021-12-01 11:23:59, user Drago Varsas wrote:
Common sense will do. "No matter the causes of death ( like being killed by a truck driving over you ) if covid ( a test run at 35-45 cycles never meant to be used for diagnostics ) it counts as covid" The test does not exclude other corona viruses or influenza and most people had serious chronic illnesses and died from them after a very questionable covid positive test. People will other illnesses were also falsely labeled as covid and not treated for their actual illness and often consequently died. It's a crime against humanity and no hair splitting talk will change this.
On 2021-12-01 21:39:22, user Heinrich Schweizer wrote:
The Title of this paper is very misleading. It is evident, and the authors explicitly state it in the discussion section that: (citation: "The analyses performed here represent model-based estimations that are limited by data quality..."). So I think the title would rather have to be formulated as a question than as the firm statement (lending itself to propagandistic abuse).
On 2021-12-01 22:33:29, user Volker wrote:
I estimate (from the text) that vaccinated individuals are involved in 5-6 out of 10 new infections. Which is more than half of all new infections. Seems not to be minor.<br /> Why is it not mentioned in the text ?!? Any reason, why this is not an important information, taken from the same graphics as the estimation about unvaccinated individuals ?!
The model used does not look like the real world in October and November. 2G, 3G, (no) testing have significantly different impact on the contact behaviour of vaccinated individuals, and even more on unvaccinated individuals. The contact model seems not to be realistic at all.
Is there any verification for the (contact) model with actual real data, instead of using static parameter for getting "some" results out of the model? How good (or bad) does the model match with the real world ? Do the results match anyway with increasing number of infected vaccinated individuals, and vaccinated individuals in hospitals ?
Looks like the model does not consider the absence of testing for vaccinated individuals, but this should have an impact on the number of known infections.
On 2021-12-02 12:45:22, user drummy_b wrote:
The Study worked with a effectiveness of the vaccines against <br /> transmission between 70% and 40%. Do we have any evidence for these <br /> assumptions? Furthermore, the effectiveness against transmission and <br /> against disease is not clearly separated in the text. The study should <br /> also provide a modelling with 0% effectiveness against transmission, <br /> then we could see, what matches best with the numbers we have in the real<br /> world.
On 2021-12-03 00:07:08, user Nils S wrote:
If it was true that unvaccinated were responsible for 90% of the infections, the incidences in Denmark would not be possible. Denmark’s share of unvaccinated in the population is roughly 1/3 lower compared to Germany. Following the results of the paper, the growth-rate in the exponential function for spreading the virus would be much smaller in DK, which would theoretically lead to much lower infections in DK compared to DE – if the analysis was correct.<br /> However, the incidences (7-day incidence per 100.000) in DE and DK started October 20th at the same level, close to 90. On November 28th Germany peaked with 482 while DK reached 505 and continued to increase. The Danish numbers do not fit to the results of this paper. The incidences should be much smaller due to higher vaccination rates in DK. Thus, the share of unvaccinated does not explain the growth of infections. It rather looks like, vaccinated and unvaccinated spread the virus similarly.<br /> I strongly recommend to test your hypothesis with data from other countries. And furthermore, I have strong concerns with respect to the RKI data used as input for your analysis. Due to the German regulations vaccinated do not test at all – except for a few exemptions. The entire data is heavily biased. UK for example provided much more reliable data. <br /> Best regards<br /> By the way, have a look at this Nature articel: <br /> https://www.nature.com/arti...
On 2021-12-02 13:07:03, user Max Daigle wrote:
Is this Peer Reviewed?