I think again here is an opportunity to discuss what life looks like after treatment, moving forward for years. Washington state is not a forgiving state when being homeless. I think it should start with the accountability of hospitals, and building more mental health facilities that have medically trained staff there. Like a mental health emergency department instead of physical stuff. But again it would cost a lot.

I agree. Why make a person try to get sober if they don't want to? It simply makes them more resistant to change. At least in my opinion. It's a waste of money. If they don't want to get clean, they wont stay clean when they leave.

I think it is important to not just see someone through their petty crimes, but stick around for the long term, which is hard because it's costly right? But you can't just ask someone to change their living at the drop of a hat. Even if it is 28 days of treatment after getting ordered there from the hospital, it is important to support someone trying to change their manner of living for possibly many many years. But how do we pay for such things?

Getting "Ricky's Law" can be difficult, but I'm glad that it is more difficult to take away someone's rights to themselves versus being able to lock people up for having ideology that goes against societal norm when it isn't hurting anyone.

Because of when this SURSAC was formed, I think it is interesting that they think they understand the long term effects after just 5 years, when it has taken 75 years to prove that harm reduction is effective. Perhaps they are saying that things are getting worse because people are being more open about their issues, or that they simply haven't known before now, because population is growing, and going out to once rural counties. I would have to research.

I think again here is an opportunity to discuss what life looks like after treatment, moving forward for years. Washington state is not a forgiving state when being homeless. I think it should start with the accountability of hospitals, and building more mental health facilities that have medically trained staff there. Like a mental health emergency department instead of physical stuff. But again it would cost a lot.

I agree. Why make a person try to get sober if they don't want to? It simply makes them more resistant to change. At least in my opinion. It's a waste of money. If they don't want to get clean, they wont stay clean when they leave.

I think it is important to not just see someone through their petty crimes, but stick around for the long term, which is hard because it's costly right? But you can't just ask someone to change their living at the drop of a hat. Even if it is 28 days of treatment after getting ordered there from the hospital, it is important to support someone trying to change their manner of living for possibly many many years. But how do we pay for such things?

Because of when this SURSAC was formed, I think it is interesting that they think they understand the long term effects after just 5 years, when it has taken 75 years to prove that harm reduction is effective. Perhaps they are saying that things are getting worse because people are being more open about their issues, or that they simply haven't known before now, because population is growing, and going out to once rural counties. I would have to research.

Getting "Ricky's Law" can be difficult, but I'm glad that it is more difficult to take away someone's rights to themselves versus being able to lock people up for having ideology that goes against societal norm when it isn't hurting anyone.