Reviewer #2 (Public Review):
In this paper, Shen and co-workers report the results of experiments using single particle tracking and FRAP combined with modeling and simulation to study the diffusion of molecules in the dense and dilute phases of various kinds of condensates, including those with strong specific interactions as well as weak specific interactions (IDR-driven). Their central finding is that molecules in the dense phase of condensates with strong specific interactions tend to switch between a confined state with low diffusivity and a mobile state with a diffusivity that is comparable to that of molecules in the dilute phase. In doing so, the study provides experimental evidence for the effect of molecular percolation in biomolecular condensates.
Overall, the experiments are remarkably sophisticated and carefully performed, and the work will certainly be a valuable contribution to the literature. The authors' inquiry into single particle diffusivity is useful for understanding the dynamics and exchange of molecules and how they change when the specific interaction is weak or strong. However, there are several concerns regarding the analysis and interpretation of the results that need to be addressed, and some control experiments that are needed for appropriate interpretation of the results, as detailed further below.
(1) The central finding that the molecules tend to experience transiently confined states in the condensed phase is remarkable and important. This finding is reminiscent of transient "caging"/"trapping" dynamics observed in diverse other crowded and confined systems. Given this, it is very surprising to see the authors interpret the single-molecule motion as being 'normal' diffusion (within the context of a two-state diffusion model), instead of analyzing their data within the context of continuous time random walks or anomalous diffusion, which is generally known to arise from transient trapping in crowded/confined systems. It is not clear that interpreting the results within the context of simple diffusion is appropriate, given their general finding of the two confined and mobile states. Such a process of transient trapping/confinement is known to lead to transient subdiffusion at short times and then diffusive behavior at sufficiently long times. There is a hint of this in the inset of Fig 3, but these data need to be shown on log-log axes to be clearly interpreted. I encourage the authors to think more carefully and critically about the nature of the diffusive model to be used to interpret their results.
Even in the context of the 'normal' two-state diffusion model they present, if they wish to stick with that-although it seems inappropriate to do so-can the authors provide some physical intuition for what exactly sets the diffusivities they extract from their data. (0.17 and 0.013 microns squared per second for the mobile and confined states). Can these be understood using e.g., the Stoke-Einstein or Ogston models somehow?
(2) Equation 1 (and hence equation 2) is concerning. Consider a limit when P_m=1, that is, in the condensed phase, there are no confined particles, then the model becomes a diffusion equation with spatially dependent diffusivity, \partial c /\partial t = \nabla * (D(x) \nabla c). The molecules' diffusivity D(x) is D_d in the dilute phase and D_m in the condensed phase. No matter what values D_d and D_m are, at equilibrium the concentration should always be uniform everywhere. According to Equation 1, the concentration ratio will be D_d/D_m, so if D_d/D_m \neq 1, a concentration gradient is generated spontaneously, which violates the second law of thermodynamics. Can the authors please justify the use of this equation?
Indeed, the derivation of Equation 1 appears to be concerning. The flux J is proportional to D * dc/dx (not k*D*c as in the manuscript). At equilibrium dc/dx = 0 on both sides and c is constant everywhere. Can the authors please comment?
So then another question is, why does the Monte Carlo simulation result agree with Equation 1? I suspect this has to do with the behavior of particles crossing the boundary. Consider another limit where D_m = 0, that is, particles freeze in the condensed phase. If once a particle enters the condensed phase, it cannot escape, then eventually all particles will end up in the condensed phase and EF=infty. The authors likely used this scheme. But as mentioned above this appears to violate the second law.
(3) Despite the above two major concerns described in (1) and (2), the enrichment due to the presence of a "confined state", is reasonable. The equilibrium between "confined" and "mobile" states is determined by its interaction with the other proteins and their ratio at equilibrium corresponds to the equilibrium constant. Therefore EF=1/P_m is reasonable and comes solely from thermodynamics. In fact, the equilibrium partition between the dilute and dense phases should solely be a thermodynamic property, and therefore one may expect that it should not have anything to do with diffusivity. Can the authors please comment on this alternative interpretation?