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Host: So in a way it's a regulation to drive change, or...

Anderson: Or, regulation to stop change that would upset existing safety standards social expectations, social norms.

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I would feel a little bit sad, but at the same time, this is a pattern I've seen happen over and over again. And especially with these big ideas about computing and self-expression and things like that [...] people start with these huge, huge ideas, but I think that they are so different--the diff is so much between where society is now and what some of these people are thinking about--that the most that can be absorbed at one time is like one unit--one meme--from that whole big vision. So, we're just gonna take like one small step at a time, and [...] you kind of just have to accept that, you know, that's success.