for - Indyweb - connecting the multimeaningverse - multimeaningverse - lebenswelt - perspectival knowing - quote - Mark Knopfler - Brothers in Arms - private inner world / public outer world - self other gestalt - adjacency - Brothers in Arms - We have just one world but live in different ones - perspectival knowing - self other gestalt - lebenswelt - semantic fingerprint - salience mismatch - Indyweb - Deep Humanity salience landscape - John Vervaeke

quote - Mark Knopfler - Brothers in Arms - (See quote below)

• There's so many different worlds
• So many different suns
• And we have just one world
• But we live in different ones

adjacency - between - Brothers in Arms - We have just one world but live in different ones - - perspectival knowing - self other gestalt - lebenswelt - semantic fingerprint - salience mismatch - Indyweb - John Vervaeke - salience landscape - Deep Humanity - meaningverse - multimeaningverse - adjacency relationship - This verse is so beautiful in summarizing the human condition - We each have our own unique lifeworld, what Edmund Husserl called "Lebenswelt" - https://jonudell.info/h/facet/?max=100&expanded=true&user=stopresetgo&exactTagSearch=true&any=lebenswelt - The self / other gestalt has its two poles, each belonging to two complimentary worlds: - The self has a private inner space only accessible to the individual organism - At the same time, the individual self phenomenologically experiences other living organisms, both of the same and different species - Different individual organisms can share a common public space, which for humans is navigated using the instrument of language - Deep Humanity defines the words - "meaningverse" - the individuals world of meaning - "multi-meaningverse" - the shared meaning of many individuals converging their respective individual meaningverses together - The song employs these verses to articulate the complimentary and sometimes contradictory-appearing worlds of the private-inner ad the public-outer - The semantic fingerprint of each word in an individual's vocabulary is unique to that individual as a function of - varying enculturation and social conditioning - https://jonudell.info/h/facet/?max=100&expanded=true&user=stopresetgo&exactTagSearch=true&any=semantic+fingerprint - and all these different perspectives - something cognitive scientist John Vervaeke calls "perspectival knowing" - https://jonudell.info/h/facet/?max=100&expanded=true&user=stopresetgo&exactTagSearch=true&any=John+Vervaeke - https://jonudell.info/h/facet/?max=100&expanded=true&user=stopresetgo&exactTagSearch=true&any=perspectival+knowing - can lead to what we call in Indyweb / Deep Humanity terminology "salience mismatch" (ie. misunderstanding) - derived from John Vervaeke's popularization of the term "salience landscape" - https://jonudell.info/h/facet/?max=100&expanded=true&user=stopresetgo&exactTagSearch=true&any=salience+landscape - War, hatred, crime and violence are all extreme forms of othering which emerge when we fail to understand the nature of the self/other and individual/collective gestalt

• for: salience mismatch - comparison - phylogenetic network - bifurcating tree

• salience mismatch: comparison - phylogenetic network - bifurcating tree

  • Dec 11, 2023
    • I need examples of both applied to indyweb / Indranet to see pros and cons
    • I don't yet appreciate the meaning of phylogenetic network
    • https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phylogenetic_network
  • Dec 12, 2023
    • Salience mismatch lifting. I think you are applying biomimcry here but the comarison between
      • evolution of living systems and
      • evolution of ideas
    • Two (or more) ideas can interact and give rise to a new idea
    • So at the very least, at least 3 ideas can exist autonomously, each being a source for new ideas.

• for: salience mismatch, question - provide examples - kariotic flow

• question: Can Kylie provide an example of some damaging right side activities and how it could be corrected by including the corresponding left side activities?

• for: kariotic flow

• summary

  • While I appreciate the general idea, the explanation in terms of the 6 parts of the kariotic flow wheel is not clear. I found a strong salience mismatch

  • concrete examples would go a long way to bridge the explanatory gap between the salience landscape of the author and that of the reader

• for: kariotic flow - metacrisis explanation, question - salience

• question: salience

• critique,: inadequate explanation
  • I don't understand the salience of why the right half needs that left half.
  • I think the ideas are too abstract and while years of experience may make the author familiar with our salience, to a new mind looking at the ideas for the first time, there is a salience mismatch because they semantic fingerprints are different
  • a few concrete examples of , how this works to explain the metacrisis would be very helpful
  • there isn't enough time spent illuminating and explaining what each of these 6b abstract ideas are our why they are assigned such strategic importance. Hence, I do not appreciate their salience and the salience mishmash occurs