here must be a self now I'm not talking about a minimal kind of self a pre-reflective kind of self I'm talking about a socio-cognitive construct like philosophers like Dennard 00:03:30 and others have suggested a construct which is of a cognitive type it may also be of a social kind as suggested by social scientists like for example Wolfgang Prince Ian hacking and 00:03:42 even some neuroscientists like Michael Graziano have proposed scientific approaches to the notion of self