Future of Software as a Symmathetic Conversation

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Engelbart 2018

Personal first but go Interpersonal 7 years later with the IndyWeb

Maker App

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information about the context background purpose intent of creting a document

and more complex it sure looks like Humanity is circling

the drain

// I heard it as circling the dream =

I think we know the answer when they are dead pasteurized and homogenized and

simplified into stereotypes and the true depth and integrity of their ideas and initiatives are forgotten

nice to look back where I started out 7 years ago dreaming of the IndyWeb

Te interplaeatry inter personal inter intentional autonomous web the indyweb

We need systems that are people centered and leverageing th power of the human interintellect augmenting it via man machine symbiosis

MindWiki

4 - OHS - Luanch Community

mindrive.co wikinizer.com MindPlex

Ted was right

IPFS Peergos provides a way of creating and maintaining named files networks with permanence and permanenc of reference while the files and entire file sysstems DAGs are mutable

neither the anagement or the participants are able to benefit

The spoaration of

Computer Supported Personal Work

and cf Computer Supported Collaborative Work

arose from the desire to encolse the products and the artifacts and olso that the

work on the Personal computer was inaccessible over the network

We need a network communication topoilogy that matches what is reqired

Need a global permanent secure way of naming and sharing controlled by the creators originators of the the infordances

that are contiguous with the very way individuals do their own personal work

which is also networked multi device multiplayers athroug time and that each individualis able to maintain a host of Profiles Pseudonyms alter egos designed to fit in with or establis connectivity across many disperate networks

centralizing indtoduces huge friction

the enclosure limits discoverblity access

make everytng go virtual

named interest pursuites communities of practice iautononpus individual with the power to name their interest communities and pursuites in form tht people can join

infordances

inccessibel unindexed

yet we need the polar opposite

make everything shareable in interpersonal intercommunity trust networks with provenance

make it discoverable

scaling reach and synthesis

Open Mutual Learning commons

flip that

loose the exploitable artifact focus and create processes

that are capable of creating autopoieti self presentable extensible infordances holonic units of

articulation along with the very means they are to be processed in a way that is totally extensible intentionally constellated for new puproses with easy

et poermanent and evergreen focus on the ways and means and processes

workflows and collaborative information flows that

scale

but employs mechanisms that are orthogonal to scaling

this is possible as the individual knowledge work has all the capabilities buil tin that supports collaboration

The individal's knowledge work is multiplayer multighreaded interpersonal connetivity and conversaions that are contiuous without being syncronous et contigiuus with the tneire intertiwngled context that forms a complete disoerable explorable graph at any moment in time

thorugh time

proprietary data formats

we need infordances

or holoorphic infometa4dances that are autopoietic permanent yt coe-volvable evergreen and composable

repurposable resumable refactorable etc

WE created dta formats so that we could possibly reuse repurpose the content

big mistake need a universal hyperdocument format

something that XML tried but failed to deliver

so instead of a universal format

we need universal (in the sense of universal machine( a way of creating info structures that use simple notation for structuring that is ameanble to arbitrary user defined interpretations and presentation processes

instead of separating concerns all required capabilities

should be integral to the seed capabilities

the tyrrany of format

knowledge worker

trailblazer

yes but that requires every person to be autonomous abe to create or join teams

should saart to augment the individal

in a born multiplayer collaborative etting

recognizing that eveything is a symmathetic conversation

including the software needed to conduct it

so that we have a seed setup that is a sweetspot beyond the threshld required

not a good enough solution

that i litered with compromises and choices tht lock one into gratiutous complicaitons

like XML is a great eample. It sure have metacircular power but at the cost of huge complexity and complication

You cannot get hundrd pages worth of definitions right ever

Need something that is small fit in one page

and capoable of self-hosting and etensibility

unfinished revolution

good enough solution

we need a perfect seed capable of autopoietic organic growth at scale

scaling reach synthesis interpersonal interplay digital velum with perrmanence and full provenance trails

Ubiquitous Collaboration

Autonomos InterPersonal InterPlay needed

Simplicity

for - OHS - Launch Community - Papers

paper

It can - save new artifacts, - even clone itself, onto new Web pages. T

he kernel includes - WebDAV support for browsing and - extending remote file systems, and thus - has the ability to save its objects and "worlds" (applications) - as new active Web pages and - into a cloud-based repository.

It comes live off a Web page. - There is no installation. - The entire system is written in JavaScript, and - it becomes active as soon as the page is loaded by a browser. - It is, in fact, a Web page.

It can change itself and create new content. The Lively Kernel includes a basic graphics editor that allows it to alter and create new graphical content, and also an integrated development environment (IDE) that allows it to alter and create new applications. It comes with a library of graphical and computational components, and these, as well as the kernel, can be altered and extended on the fly.

It can save new artifacts, even clone itself, onto new Web pages. The kernel includes WebDAV support for browsing and extending remote file systems, and thus has the ability to save its objects and "worlds" (applications) as new active Web pages and into a cloud-based repository.

It can change itself and create new content. - The Lively Kernel includes a basic graphics editor that allows it to alter and create new graphical content, and also - an integrated development environment (IDE) - that allows it to alter and create new applications. - It comes with a library of graphical and computational components, and - these, as well as the kernel, can be altered and extended on the fly.

egyén – ‘az ember mint különálló személy, individuum’. Származékai: egyéni, egyéniség. Nyelvújítási alkotás, az egy számnév és az én névmás összetétele

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egyén

💭

Operating System was a bad idea

Love💓 💕 that

Enough of my premumble =

Nice touch

Lost on AI

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annotated

build enableing networks - for each other

natural petterns of

• conversing
• being
• doing

how about meaning and intents

add reference

order?

polishes up

//yeah appreciate self as a holon

self

focus on values not topics

heart=baed resonating spacs

build * coherence * cohesion

around things we care - about

care as the generative principle

worse still future perfect orientation

certainly in IT bet practices are carefully cultivated to be the one that limits human potential in the most insiduous ways

Flip everything considered as best practice and you have a heuristic that opens up space for augmenting human potential

do not do that

as you said earlier

📯 liberation from conditioning comes when we cease to seek external validation and refuse to conform

Social non conformism is the condition sine qya not

(not only) of intellectual achievment

combined that with a large dose of neuro-diversity

an anitdot eto conditioning

mixed in with learn to live with persistent cognitive dissonance

once you see that everything is a lie

and truth is brandd always as heresy

and you do not know anything about most things

but can only know what you can do

then gather together

is the operative word

PMO itself with gratitude

leaky gut syndrome?

out-tuit

attention into the future

📣📯 for that we need the Indy Learning Commons on the Indy Web

📣 but for that we have to

mutually learn what we need when we need it and learn it

collaboratively

PMO collectively cultivated

📣 How do we bring the people to the same virtual spot page with all the affordances they need to engage with information that pertains to their shared intent

itself as a holinc whole mutual arising information and affordances or infordances

that are

permanent evergreen attributed provenance and history formalative saleient significant actionable

that are

re * discover * sume * peat * factorable * formluate * volvable * distributable * distributed

connecting people ideas and intents and pursuites

📣📣 that would enable us to

operate as

• self-generating units of value,

in service to our communities are

discounted

capacities capabilities information affordances as holons

📣 I wince every time I hear the word data

data is the carrier of in formation

that form human attention

be careful what you pay attention to and your intents

📣 synthetic virtual autopoiesis in the sphere of externalized inter intellect

holons can be named and invoked and create new ones by connecting integrating constellations as required

Articulation does that too by meaningful naming and narratives woven fro them

// reflection I read all this as a way of articulating the way to approach creation very much in morphic resonance with the

design principles that I practice and reflect and act opon in#continual symmathetic conversation between articulation and effort to create the seed from which autopoiesis can become effective embodied in the tools of eternalied inter personal inter intellect emergent extellect

📣 AND

Future Perfect Orientation

Complete in the service of continuous thriving sustainability long view

Maximizing realizing manifesting future potential The Long View

Expanding viewpoint The Blue Plane

PMO is in formed by our tuition

📣 would like to suggest for consideration the perspective that the present is a confluence of the causal influences of the past but are also influenced by the future and its changing potentials

however we woud like to suppress our awareness of the present and indeed the past are influenced by our intent and awareness of future potentials

wittingly or otherwise but irreducibly and tacitly

present moment orientation, being here now can only beacieved when the push of the past, the lightness or otherewise of the present and the pull of potential futures at scale are in a habituabe balance

📌 get on with Real Work

newly gestating Real World

before it can gestate it may need to be gestalt out

outuited

envisioned

and acted upon

gather to do it together

• poly crisis
• shrivels
• ball of fluff
• cuffs

bring out gifts via PMO

poly crises shriverl

invisible unseen

hidden remains hidden

dry data

power presence

true self rein for epression

substructure that - we feed - feed us

her and now for you and yours in your situation

nurturing fear judgement

common ground

be a rabbit

but there are faint's within faint's witin faints too

Yes

but

how are we to act when we have to act before we knew how things were

It is not just the media. But power itself

poly crises

and our relationship to the unseen, we change what the future holds.

that lies underneath all the layers of conditioning.

the one impervious to modelling

many others see it

// worse still

things that are important are impervious to the very attempt at "modelling"

where there is no pre-formed agenda, where we make space to slow down and see what is there,

context susidiary awareness

data focal awaareness

where there is no pre-formed agenda, where we make space to slow down and see what is there, that take context into account more than data. Our natural learning capacities are freed up when we do this. Sadly most fall right here because we simply don’t have the right modelling

nervous systems literally fail to develop the parts that are our psyche’s don’t wish to see.

patterns builds on each other

plays out at an energetic level

conditioning

what is authentic from conditioned responses

depending on the extent to which we relate to the meaning and are prepared to work with the aliveness of the moment. We can make our own rituals of course: Checking in and out of every meeting is a simple ritual that helps us bring greater focus and awareness of the energy and space we are in.

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x

Zombie spotting and holon energising

provide what we need as umans

hockey stick of change

spot other holons

new tools introduce into space

of Winfinity principles

circling around the idea

We begin by using the resources we already have:

Us, the people in the room.

We learn to play with - information from the field.

We explore our world - with curiosity and - see what changes as we change

providing places and spaces

that help us to become

responsive (in the right way) to each other.

• growth,
• targets and
• standards,
• rallying the troops,
• finding the right model or
• enough money or
• enough information.

None of that.

I began **following ‘the

• 'knowledge’ and a
• leader

who dealt with knowledge over relationship building. That’s a common mistake and an even more salient learning experience when it hits.

• Mistakes allowed -
• even applauded

on

views, opinions, prespectives

water we seim in

not having a model is a gift

focus attention and PMO experience

s more important than focusing on understanding the knowledge, or the model or the next step. We have not ever worked in this way. It’s very different. But it really works for those who are ready.

culture they bring to a space and it is the practice of the new culture that matters.

IFSTC

fear, malice or revenge (take responsibility for regular clearing out of trauma wounds. It is always a work in progress).

provenance, selectiveness of stories and out-dated ways of looking at health, education and the economy)

permission granted drop seeds for thought connections

more important than being rights

first natural law

winfinity

• formulate vision
• achieve shared vision

patters for PMOs in three comminities

• unseen
• how it relates to the seen later

same value * outside * inside

• bring together diverse groups
• to protect the weak
• carry out good work

• split into factions

• no holon at play

• ideology more prevalent
• then holon potential
• true of most religions

• mutually supportive functions

• inter playability is the key inded

• diversity

• resilience to the whole

• mutually supportive

• emergent novel capabilities

helping you growth and learning journey

find your place

indicators

• simple rules
• anyone can play learning oaths
• stable organic growth of rules
• low stress
• afford
  • space
  • time
  • freedome

expanding potential augmenting capacities for

all rules are man made

the question is are they reasonable enough to assist the unfolding reality

fulfil the sacred purpose

long view thrivability

regulate

PMO function

dia indeed

we healthy organizm

holon anvirionemt for individual thriving?

grow and reproduce at a higher level kaizen

want?

need

to get back to kilter

balance

feels not look

patter harvest

conversation culture

back to the future

ad directionem ingenii

attentded to

illation

AND acted upon

to thrive with

nsc

patters fractals holons

re - use - sume - purpose - factor

we need that in any creative endeavour specially when we think and have conversations about it

tools to augment our individual thinking, engagements conversations as we symmathesize, articulate and externalize our inter intellect

• ability - natural
• capability - learned
• power - structural

y/our situatedness particular complexes

free? autocratic?

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install IPFS Desktop Then the link bellow work on your browser

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Feather Wiki nest

suggest that it was developed by another "bloody Hungarian" as my life long english friend Christopher would say

they are all over the place

more like they are attracted to create things as a Vanguard

Let's see

suggest that it was developed by another "bloody Hungarian" as my life long english friend Christopher would say

they are all over the place

more like they are attracted to create things as a Vanguard

way to add once and for all

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so a little exercise and Imagination here

can you imagine an architecture and platform that's comparable in - power and - sophisticated and - reach

uh to those enjoyed by Fortune 500 companies

but created buy-in

for those

on the Forefront of our evolutionary transformation

Holochain is a great eco system supporting the Memetic Activation Platform

IndyWeb' mission is to support over the web uatonomous interpersonal interplay across all existing ecosystem complete the existing web and all emergent Decentralied unenclosable ecosystems that arae fragmented today.

Gyuri Lajos, [26/03/2025 09:05] Holochanin is a good pathway. Hoilochain as an ecosystem is self-closed. The goal had allways been to provide the connecting tissue that make these eco-system interplay

Gyuri Lajos, [26/03/2025 09:06] The point of integration is by design the individual human being and their engagements

Gyuri Lajos, [26/03/2025 09:05] Holochanin is a good pathway. Hoilochain as an ecosystem is self-closed. The goal had allways been to provide the connecting tissue that make these eco-system interplay

Gyuri Lajos, [26/03/2025 09:06] The point of integration is by design the individual human being and their engagements

Gyuri Lajos, [26/03/2025 09:07] The current design supports the ability to compete ANYRHING it touches and start the process of supporting ever growing interplayability

stackblitz one click start up experience

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first version

second version

souuce:

https://medium.com/bettersharing/how-to-build-companies-that-are-a-force-for-good-in-society-33163843033e

change incentive structures

Steward-ownership is capitalism 2.0

source: https://medium.com/bettersharing/steward-ownership-is-capitalism-2-0-76a1c50a6d88

flip that too

self.links.custom.gateway:

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When it comes to manifesto the one I resonate most is https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/transcender-manifesto-world-beyond-capitalism-seed-dil-green/?trackingId=Cx1BqY9hiMFypMiYk5yKwA

to http://github.com/hypothesis/pdf.js-hypothes.is

annotate works

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Looks like a crappy pdf

priviledge presence

empire

veneer of modernity

researcher story teller

websocket too

message sync and submission protocol is the same

See why JMAP is a better way to email

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4 - mind design - semantic engines - syntax - semantics

x

articulated or extelected

as in externalized inter intellected

Yep

Understanding to be understood

Syntax engine?

If you get your syntax right semantics can take care of itself

does it?

LLMS live by narrative trails

that contain propositional trails

that maps naturally to SPVs

linked open knowledge graph

discoverable and extensible

semantic technology agency

administration policies