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There is, said Michael, if thou well observe [ 530 ] The rule of not too much, by temperance taught In what thou eatst and drinkst, seeking from thence Due nourishment, not gluttonous delight, Till many years over thy head return: So maist thou live, till like ripe Fruit thou drop [ 535 ] Into thy Mothers lap, or be with ease Gatherd, not harshly pluckt, for death mature: This is old age; but then thou must outlive Thy youth, thy strength, thy beauty, which will change To witherd weak and gray; thy Senses then [ 540 ] Obtuse, all taste of pleasure must forgoe, To what thou hast, and for the Aire of youth Hopeful and cheerful, in thy blood will reigne A melancholly damp of cold and dry To weigh thy spirits down, and last consume [ 545 ] The Balme of Life.
Milton here saw us a soft, mild, kind way of our fall, our death. All are coming to an end as the result of our sin. Death come to all of us. In my point of view this is nice, comfortable view, instead our reality. Our painful fall to diseases and death. The end is not peaceful. For the most of the people is painful, violent and hard. But people always tried to calm our violent enviroment. Life never was easy for the human.
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His free Will
What a lie...
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Man should be seduc't
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Man should be seduc't
So the man was doomed to fall...should be seduct...It seems that everything was planed and from this point of view all our problems todayare planned to be. I don't like the idea and it seems to me that is very comfortable to avoid our responsibilities, but on the other hand its a very complicate philosophycal problem.
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Her hand he seis'd, and to a shadie bank, Thick overhead with verdant roof imbowr'd He led her nothing loath; Flours were the Couch, Pansies, and Violets, and Asphodel, [ 1040 ] And Hyacinth, Earths freshest softest lap. There they thir fill of Love and Loves disport Took largely, of thir mutual guilt the Seale, The solace of thir sin, till dewie sleep Oppress'd them, wearied with thir amorous play.
Milton connect the eaten fruit with sexual desire. In all previous poem we found only a platonic love, no sexual act. But now we see that. The fruit awake them the sexual desire and they make love. Bible's account don't say that but we can say that maybe this has a point from the status of women in Bible. The low status level and their role is not important in men's decisions, not all the time but in most of them.
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However I with thee have fixt my Lot, Certain to undergoe like doom, if Death Consort with thee, Death is to mee as Life; So forcible within my heart I feel [ 955 ] The Bond of Nature draw me to my owne, My own in thee, for what thou art is mine; Our State cannot be severd, we are one, One Flesh; to loose thee were to loose my self.
Adam, outside Bible's account, reveals his emotions and will. He seal his fate with his wife...permantly. Her way, his way, vice versa. Their decision ultimate, their life or death undisputable. Milton went beyond Bible's account and tried to find inner emotions and thoughts. These thoughts which seal permantly their fate.
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Thoughts, whither have ye led me, with what sweet Compulsion thus transported to forget What hither brought us, hate, not love, nor hope [ 475 ] Of Paradise for Hell, hope here to taste Of pleasure, but all pleasure to destroy, Save what is in destroying, other joy To me is lost. Then let me not let pass Occasion which now smiles, behold alone [ 480 ] The Woman, opportune to all attempts, Her Husband, for I view far round, not nigh, Whose higher intellectual more I shun, And strength, of courage hautie, and of limb Heroic built, though of terrestrial mould, [ 485 ] Foe not informidable, exempt from wound, I not; so much hath Hell debas'd, and paine Infeebl'd me, to what I was in Heav'n. Shee fair, divinely fair, fit Love for Gods, Not terrible, though terrour be in Love [ 490 ] And beautie, not approacht by stronger hate, Hate stronger, under shew of Love well feign'd, The way which to her ruin now I tend.
I think that this part is one of the most powerful in this poem. Satan is the hero, the underground hero, the person which make self critical, as he recognize that Hell has destroyed him. He is prepared for the final hit, which will ruin everything good and virtue and he will take his revenge. This part is out of book of Genesis. Bible actually says very few things about Satan and his intentions. But here Milton trying to give us his deep motives, his propose.
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Let ther be Light
The story of creation is enriched with many details out of book of Genesis. Of course there is an epic way of narrative and present the earth as a living being which is created in different stages. At the end a beautiful living being is present. Its not coinsidence that the light is coming first.
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To ask or search I blame thee not, for Heav'n Is as the Book of God before thee set, Wherein to read his wondrous Works, and learne His Seasons, Hours, or Dayes, or Months, or Yeares: This to attain, whether Heav'n move or Earth, [ 70 ] Imports not, if thou reck'n right, the rest From Man or Angel the great Architect Did wisely to conceal, and not divulge His secrets to be scann'd by them who ought Rather admire;
The knowledge is something good, elogue and precious. But its also secret and hidden. God is the source and He reveals what He want when He want. In Genesis the knowledge is formated in a close account with specific order and theme. In Milton's version there is plurality more broad and epic.
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So spake the Godlike Power, and thus our Sire. For Man to tell how human Life began [ 250 ] Is hard; for who himself beginning knew?
In Genesis we have a simple narration of the creation of man. In Milton's version things are very different. Its no simple, its hard, maybe complicated. It seems more realistic.
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is Knowledge so despis'd? [ 60 ] Or envie, or what reserve forbids to taste? Forbid who will, none shall from me withhold Longer thy offerd good, why else set here?
why else set here? We have to deal with great ethical problem...it was all set up from the begining? Are we created to hunt knowledge and eternity? Are all these a test?
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O Sole in whom my thoughts find all repose, My Glorie, my Perfection
I think that there is something deep in Eve's emotions...really strong emotions.
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Awake My fairest, my espous'd, my latest found, Heav'ns last best gift, my ever new delight,
I think that Adam was full in love with his wife....!!!
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The God that made both Skie, Air, Earth and Heav'n Which they beheld, the Moons resplendent Globe And starrie Pole: Thou also mad'st the Night, Maker Omnipotent, and thou the Day, [ 725 ] Which we in our appointed work imployd Have finisht happie in our mutual help And mutual love, the Crown of all our bliss Ordaind by thee, and this delicious place For us too large, where thy abundance wants [ 730 ] Partakers, and uncropt falls to the ground. But thou hast promis'd from us two a Race To fill the Earth, who shall with us extoll Thy goodness infinite, both when we wake, And when we seek, as now, thy gift of sleep
Pray is essential part of their life. They depend from God's favor and praise Him. There is no independed thesis.
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To whom thus Eve with perfet beauty adornd. My Author and Disposer, what thou bidst [ 635 ] Unargu'd I obey; so God ordains, God is thy Law, thou mine: to know no more Is womans happiest knowledge and her praise.
I hear an obedient, submisive woman, willing to make the work of her husband. She accept her lower position.
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When Will and Reason (Reason also is choice) Useless and vain, of freedom both despoild, Made passive both, had servd necessitie, [ 110 ] Not mee.
The Will and Logic, in Miltons words, are passive not active. It serves the need not the Him. In which ways God define these abilities only to himself and not to the mans or angels good? Maybe because everything pass from His Grace and worship. Milton small too mach the borders between freedom, free willing and God's worship.
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Thir freedom, they themselves ordain'd thir fall.
In previous God seems to know everything, the possibility of the fall, the fall, and the cause of the fall. Now the main responsible in this situation is the man, by his own freedom to choose. I think that God loose His power to set the rules or set the rules with so unstable way which many things gone bad.
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I made him just and right, Sufficient to have stood, though free to fall.
This is a huge ethical and philosophical problem...Did man had the ability of free will?
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For man will heark'n to his glozing lyes, And easily transgress the sole Command, Sole pledge of his obedience: So will fall, [ 95 ] Hee and his faithless Progenie: whose fault? Whose but his own? ingrate, he had of mee
It seems that all were set up. God knows about the mans failure, actually it seems that he guide it. He knows everything from before...and the fault was of mans, of course. I think that God is too small here....
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More then can be in Heav'n, we now return To claim our just inheritance of old,
As a hero is going to claim what is right for him. His claim what he deserve to have. Epic status.
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but who here Will envy whom the highest place exposes Formost to stand against the Thunderers aim Your bulwark, and condemns to greatest share Of endless pain?
Satan here, it seems to make an epic statement. As his is doomed to fail is trying to say that everything that has to do are going to endless pain...the fate of a hero.
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O Prince, O Chief of many Throned Powers,
The style and the sense is also epic. The way of expression great and powerful.
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OF Mans First Disobedience, and the Fruit Of that Forbidden Tree, whose mortal tast Brought Death into the World, and all our woe,
This first phrase, it seems to me an epic introdution. It has some sense from Homer, as start Iliad. It seems that disobedience is the prime theme in this poem.
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Say first, for Heav'n hides nothing from thy view Nor the deep Tract of Hell
As in other epic poems, the author ask help, to reveal to him the details and the information, here ask nothing hide from him. It is an epic elemet.
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