- Sep 2023
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According to general Buddhist analysis, the individual that may be assumed to exist as a singular, enduring, and controlling self is mere appearance devoid of causal efficacy, and thus epiphenomenal [68]. In the case of a Bodhisattva, this understanding is carried forward so as to encompass a critique of the apparent foundations of cognition: object, agent, and action.
- for: emptiness, shunyata, non-existence of self, no-self, illusory self, deconstructing self
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- this short description of the reasoning behind deconstructing the self is quite fresh and insightful, especially relating it to cognition.
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docdrop.org docdrop.org
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your your self isn't 01:13:47 some permanent uh monadic structure that just kind of exists it's an active construction it's a process it's a you know it it's a constant information processing Auto police is that you know 01:13:59 of the mind doesn't stop during embryogenesis it kind of keeps going it has to and um and and it has these it has these interesting implications
- for: constructing selves, constructing self, reconstructing self
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- this is a fascinating insight that gives us deeper nuance on what it means to construct our selves in every moment
- we obviously know we don't have access to our past and only have access to engrams of the past , so it isn't wrong to say that we are constantly reconstructing ourselves like a Planaria worm does to regenerate its body, all the time.
- engrams are abstract traces of the past
- this goes to the heart of constructing the self, in the Buddhist sense, as a kind of illusion
- Levin says he is somewhere in the middle between the two poles of illusion and solidity of self, the self is a pragmatic useful metaphor, like everything else we construct
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- Aug 2023
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docdrop.org docdrop.org
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sense of self is a construct a psychological and social construct it's something it's not something that 00:06:42 infants are born with it's actually something that develops as we grow up our caregivers look into our eyes give us a name that we learned to identify with and also basically we learn to see 00:06:59 ourselves as they see us we inte
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for: self, constructing reality, constructed self, constructed reality, constructing the sense of self, self and other, nonduality, duality, insecurable, comment, question
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- sense of self is a construct
- a psychological and social construct
- it's not something that infants are born with
- it's actually something that develops as we grow up
- our caregivers look into our eyes
- give us a name that we learned to identify with and
- also basically we learn to see ourselves as they see us
- we internalize that which is why we are so preoccupied with what other people think about
- we learned to use language in certain
ways
- mine
- you
- yours
- his
- hers and so forth
- that's all very essential to it
- so we could say that the sense of self is being a construct
- it's composed of mostly habitual ways of
- thinking
- feeling
- acting
- reacting
- remembering
- planning and
- tending
- it's the way that these mostly habitual processes work together re-enforce each other
- but does that give us insight into what the fundamental problem is?
- I think it does and here's what it is as I understand it
- because the sense of self is a construct
- because it doesn't refer it
- doesn't depend on it
- doesn't point back to a real self that has any self-reality or or self-identity
- because the sense of self is a construct
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this sense of self by virtue of its lack of essence is inherently uncomfortable
- we can say it's basically inherently insecure
- in fact it's not only insecure but it's insecurable
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- I agree with David's analysis but also have a question for him:
- what about the biological, evolutionary definition of the self of a living organism. Is there a contradiction here?
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- Major Evolutionary Transitions occur when a group of individuated living organisms achieve greater fitness by mutualism and begin to reproduce together as a new unit
- How do we harmonize the claim of a psychologically constructed self with this evolutionary formation of new biological SELF units through MET?
- Major Evolutionary Transitions occur when a group of individuated living organisms achieve greater fitness by mutualism and begin to reproduce together as a new unit
- I agree with David's analysis but also have a question for him:
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- Mar 2023
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www.zen-occidental.net www.zen-occidental.net
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it is a mental construct
Good explanation of what self-consciousness attempts to do:
Self-consciousness is not something obviously "self-existing" it is a fiction, - it is ungrounded because it is - a mental construct.
Rather than being selfsufficient, - consciousness is like the surface of the sea: dependent on unknown depths ("conditions," as the Buddha called them) that it cannot grasp - because it is a manifestation of them.
The problem arises because this conditioned, and therefore unstable, consciousness wants to - ground itself, to make itself real.
But to real-ize itself is to objectify itself - meaning to grasp itself, since an object is that-which-is-grasped.
The ego-self is this continuing attempt to objectify oneself by grasping oneself, something we can no more do than a hand can grasp itself.
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repressed intuition "returns to consciousness in distorted form" as the symbolic ways we compulsively try to ground ourselves and make ourselves real in the world: such as power, fame, and of course money.
//* Loy is stating... - Those engaging compulsively in money, fame, power, materialism - are actually deeply repressing - the fact that the ego-self, and therefore self-consciousness is a construction - To continually reify the ego-self, we engage in these activities - and of course, this is fueling the polycrisis we now find ourselves in
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The Buddhist doctrine of no-self implies that our fundamental repression is not sex (as Freud thought), nor even death (as existential psychologists think), but the intuition that the ego-self does not exist, that our self consciousness is a mental construction.
// SELF CONSCIOUSNESS IS A MENTAL CONSTRUCTION
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