Biblography
Since you reference from time to time the general 'public' response to the three movies, you might have included a few more 'popular' reviews.
Biblography
Since you reference from time to time the general 'public' response to the three movies, you might have included a few more 'popular' reviews.
Environmental theory stresses the link between the humanistic emphasis on Man as the measure of all things and the domination and exploitation of nature and condemns the abuses of science and technology. Both involve epistemic and physical violence over the structural 'others' and are related to the European Enlightenment ideal of 'reason.'" (Braidotti 48). Therefore, as men feel they have agency over technology, they can overuse it to the detriment of others, which means the environment or other groups in the minority. Then, the environment is always linked to social injustices, as depending on the place, the environment can further oppress minorities, as seen with the recent theory of ecofeminism. It is difficult to determine how these injustices will be carried through a posthuman future? One thing is certain: some issues will be addressed, and others will surface. Unfortunately, it is impossible to eliminate them all, as the utopia stories have shown us that it will end up in a dystopia.
These concluding remarks are most relevant to Wall-E but less so to the other two movies. What about coming back to the question of alterenatives; ex. robots/AI 'becoming' more ethical and empathetic, more ecological and relational, etc.?
social issues and injustices.
What social issues and injustices do you discuss in Her?
Human beings are no longer as unique as we think as we move into a future of posthumanism.
Hmm, according to posthumanism, humans were never unique
. In all three films, subjectivity gave importance to the different forms of technology.
Need to be more specific - they raise the issues of desire and fear, asking about intimate relationships between humans-robots-AI but also the problem of intrusion (come back to Braidotti).
Moreover, after she makes a sexual joke and even draws a picture, it gives the impression that she is very present and has a personality.
How does Theodore experience his body in this scene (running, dancing through the subway station)? How do Samantha's questions allow him to experience his body differently? In this way, you could speak of a co-embodiment, no? She gets him to imagine a very different kind of sexuality as well.
if she is not present in her body
or that she does not have a locatable body - her 'materiality' is spread over many circuit boards.
you cannot help but feel devastated
Helpful to specify who the 'you' and 'we' are meant to refer to in your analysis of the three films. (Braidotti's golden rules - cartographic accuracy and ethical accountability)
Many people, including me, found it odd to see a human falling in love with an AI
References?
in love letters.
Make connection to 'Wall-E" that also seems to raise the question of robot love?
are real humans, and then these two robots show real feelings that seem human.
How do these sentences reassert the machine (artificial) vs human (real) dualism that posthumanism tries to undo?
Eve and Wall-E are interested in the television, which shows a movie from the past with two people in love. I found it fascinating that the humans in the film are animated, but the ones we see on the TV in Wall-E are not.
Could you look more closely at the ways in which the robots are learning from romantic comedy? much like we humans learn what love is from watching movies? (I love the Netflix series "Love Death + Robots" that has a few examples of this kind of 'learning' love.) You might also discuss the 'reflection' in eyes as the 'window' of the soul in humanist discourse but not in this case of robot's recording screen eyes - or does the point about the flame (something early humans were purported to have been fascinated with) undo the human/machine distinction? (so not human with soul on the one side and robot with mirror/screen, inanimate reactions on the other)
depending on the function we provide it.
To avoid general/vague projections, you could include a few more academic sources about these 'other' chances we could give technology.
A striking theme
start a new paragraph
Henderson, in his article "Wall-E" reflection: When robots are human, and humans are robots,"
provide hyperlinks to articles?
as this genre is only found in the imagination
need a few more academic sources here to deepen your observations/reflections on animation/animated movies
whose mission is to collect the planet's waste to make it habitable again for humans.
maybe make a connection to "I, Robot" where robots are once again in the service of humans (yet they do not 'simply' play the role assigned to them).
posthumanism
I think you mean the posthuman world (it doesn't actually address the long history of humanism as a philosophy, a colonizing ideology, etc.)
Scene analysis
What about touching on the question of race in this scene as well?
However, because of the music and the camera's angle, I find the robot rather worrying and threatening.
Here you could come back to Braidoitt's quotes about technology - intimacy and intrusion, fear and desire... etc.
the doctor is only a hologram and not a real person. I think that this play with perspective indicates that in the film, the line between human and technological is non-existent and that everything is a question of perspective.
How might these two sentences contradict each other? (in the one you say that the doctor is not a real person and in the next you state that the line is non-existent...)
we compare the fear of the colonized and the minorities of the white colonizers with the fear of the humans, who fear that robots might take over.
Unclear.
robot recall racist terms.
Provide evidence (quote from the movie)
Moreover, what is more,
Moreover = what is more ;-)
I, Robot"
Title of Isaac Asimov's short story that first set out the three laws of robotics.
the three laws of robotics,
include these?
concerns about its surface
?
fear and desire
You discussed the fear... what about the desire?
subject has always been very popular.
Reference?
"Posthumanism,
The Posthuman
What are some things that we do right and can be fixed
A 'what' and not a 'why' question :-)
Video games, when purposefully designed, can be posthuman in many ways. The games I discussed, for instance, adhere to some of Braidotti’s ‘golden rules’ (The Posthuman 2013, 163).
A really interesting and relevant way to connect to the discussion of the posthuman humanities!
Overall, video games have the potential to challenge traditional thinking, which in my opinion, can be used as a learning tool. What is also important to clarify is that this project only presented three third-person PlayStation games. I rarely play other types of games, so my experience and knowledge are only limited to videogames that require a screen. There is yet further room for discussion when it comes to more refined technology, such as Virtual Reality (VR) gaming, and potentially new methods of gaming in the future.
Great point about VR gaming!
What I also find interesting is that, unlike many other games, the player gets to choose their dialogues and the memories they want to pass on.
Maybe mention that some of these memories are recordings of the non-human world? (like in the image below) The video game is clearly asking what is worth remembering if/when humans disappear... very posthuman... but also in its desire to move beyond just human memories and experiences?
I have kept the synopsis brief.
Very brief! What about including some initial gamers' reactions? Or how the game is being promoted on the internet? Or why you chose it? For example - https://kotaku.com/season-a-letter-to-the-future-ps5-steam-pc-game-review-1850069978 or https://www.theverge.com/23568494/season-a-letter-to-the-future-review-pc-playstation-ps5
In effect, in Becoming-animal, and interacting with other non-human lifeforms, gamers can see outside of their human bound selves, and experience human corruption against the non-anthropocenric other for themselves.
Good!
Upon discovering his true identity and realizing the fact that it is the last ‘human’ to still possess the memories of humanity’s past, B-12 takes it upon itself to keep the memory of humans alive by liberating the robots and sharing its knowledge with them. As such, the game requires that you help the drone/scientist. This goes to show that even in this virtual, post-apocalyptic setting, “traditional Humanism is ever persistent” (Solberg 2021, 3). Indeed, even as a cat, the player is expected to ‘save’ humanity in a world where humans no longer exist.
Posthumanism as emphasizing the constantly changing processes of subjectivity (ontological relationality) - so B12 may be human in its memories but its 'body' is not (difficult to speak of 'traditional Humanism', no?) Does the cat 'save' just humanity, though? How do different human-animal-robot relations emerge?
around like a cat. For one, everything appears bigger, namely your surroundings and the robots. Secondly, playing as a cat “enacts the fantasy of extending past the limits and limitations of the human” (Milesi 2022, 4).
include a few quotes from Braidotti's section on 'becoming-animal' (or include your definition of this concept)
geo-centered subject that recognizes the nature culture continuum
zoe-centred?
Disclaimer: Since I have not played the game, I have kept the synopsis brief.
Maybe you could include a note or two about why the game was create? Or how gamers rate the game?
Posthuman Video Games
I love the way you set up this page!
But then again, this sort of violence against the racialized and gendered other is a reflection of the real world.
You might bring in the problem of capitalism here since posthumanism has an uneasy relationship with the post-anthropocentric power of global capitalism. How are video games bought and sold? How do they circulate on the internet? Who has access to them?
One example of this would be in the Grand Theft Auto series. Though I have never played a single game from the series, I have heard quite a few things about it, and how the female characters in the game merely serve as eye candy.
I have encountered this game before. Your personal reflections make the example that much more disturbing.
Even though Muslim Massacre was banned, it still reflects, what Amanda Phillips calls mechropolitics, meaning the recreation of real politics of death in the digital world (Mayar 2021, 4). As such, these ‘others’ are merely used to fulfill a project, whether it be in the digital or the real world.
I had not heard of this game before... It illustrates in a terrifying way the violent othering that video games make possible.
becoming a posthuman subject.
We discussed in class the difference between 'subject' and 'subjectivity' (or the processes of becoming-subject that are always in motion) - you might want to underscore these processes by pointing out that gaming takes place in real time, over time, and so the processes involved change as the player becomes more and more immeshed in the temporality of the virtual world.
merely a fusion of human and technology reinforces a binary approach,
I'm not sure I understand - do you want to introduce the notion of becoming- here?
Initial
This page really nicely introduces the posthuman aspect of video games. Could you have paraphrased a little more often to cut down on the number of quotes? It would be great to hear how you agree AND disagree with these ideas.
With the possibility of adopting new subjectivities, digital gaming has the potential to offer much more than just entertainment. Similar to other forms of media, games also have the ability to raise philosophical questions, and can perhaps even be used as an educational tool.
Good!
Pieces of it may fall off, pieces may break, but for a moment, you/we all become connected.
Maybe organize this page in terms of the key concepts from posthumanism with which you are engaging? And include hyperlinks to your other pages so the user can jump back to previous questions?
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In death, Dolly the sheep's body
I would start with the robot example rather than Dolly and taxidermy.
The surrogate mothers are used for their free womb, and these offspring are created only for what their dead chopped body parts can be used for. Even in death, that mother and her offspring's bodies are not in her control. Dolly holds all of this in her body and her body's history.
Maybe have both gendered readings on the same page to compare how animals are gendered differently from machines in your two case studies?
Public Response
What about looking at TikTok or other forms of social media? Does Dolly the Sheep still come up on these?
monsters illicit from the world around them,
Could the robot from the art exhibit "Can't Help Myself" also be considered a kind of monster?
Dolly the Sheep presents a unique opportunity in regards to hybridity. Braidotti describes her as an “icon of posthuman condition” (74) as she is neither completely animal nor completely machine.
Explain the switch from art to science as a way to continue examining the role of hybridity in the posthuman condition.
The blood that is subject to the robot’s futile scraping alludes to menstrual blood with its color and consistency. The robot is stuck in an endless relationship with this blood, in the same way a woman too can be subject to similar bloody relationships. The blood is oozing and pooling and uncontainable which renders it abject. It connects to those pre-existing discourses that view fluids exiting the female body as disgusting and threatening
You could come back to your earlier point about categories - an inanimate object would be defined as not having blood... so the viewer asks who the blood 'belongs' to and how the machine is implicated - as a killer? cleaner? victim?
already mimic human movements.
Come back to Lyons' quote about human values - how does the robot (and it's title) embody a set of these values?
innate natural parts of us.
Class discussion about posthumanism challenging the idea of an innate human nature?
reflect values
The quote is about values rather than mimicking movements.
She ascribes the capability of life and death to our capacity to mourn. The fact that there was such an empathetic response, as demonstrated on platforms like TikTok, shows how our ability to mourn it ascribes it the capacity of having lived and therefore being able to suffer and die.
Good!
Edits of the piece, dubbed over with music that is branded nostalgic and sad, have blown up across social media platforms like Facebook and Tiktok. T
Explain your choice to look at social media in terms of posthumanist thought & art - a quote from Braidotti? something about art going beyond the human (postanthropocentric?) or not?
Can't Help Myself was first exhibited at the Guggenheim in 2016 before being shown again at the Venice Biennale in 2019. c.
Explain first why you choose this piece with respect to thinking with/through posthumanism more generally?
Taking this into account, this piece, for me, feels like an exploration in the human robot dynamics we exist in. There is a level of intentionality in this piece where the artists are very aware of the limitations on either side.
include a quote from Braidotti on becoming-machine?
I will use two case studies in my exploration; that of Dolly the Sheep and the art installation Can’t Help Myself.
You do need to mention that you are looking at the ways in which art and science can push our engagements with, responses to and ways of imagining these hybrids (and maybe also introduce two key concepts here - becoming-machine and becoming-animal?)
I also find this method helpful to separate my subjectivity and objectivity of the matter. I will try to incorporate only my personal view and opinion in the journal, while taking (as I can) objective notes in my Word document.
Comment est-ce que tu aurais pu intégrer des pages du journal dans ton projet? Pour tester cette hypothèse sur la perspective objective vs subjective?
The author explains how the decline of the organized religion affects the cultural heritage. The latter part of the article frame exactly my questions about the social and familial religious heritage that I try to present.
Need to reference or cite this article throughout your project.
The examples explained of this notion in art, mental health, psychic and mystical experiences help me to better identify where, in what sphere of life, does this nonduality affects an individual. I will definitely use it to make conclusions or links to the becoming a posthuman in my project.
Où se trouvent les références au non-dualisme dans ton projet? Tu pourrais fournir des hyperliens quand tu questionnes les dichotomies (mais duality et dichotomy ne sont pas la même chose)
I will use this source to establish a set of questions which will lead my conversation with both of my family member. I need to assert what purpose religion serves in each of the women’s life. It is also relevant to my project to frame my conclusions and analysis on the generational religious heritage that is passed down in my family.
Je cherchais des traces de cette démarche dans les témoignages mais je n'en ai pas trouvé.
, l'appelle et ressent ce qui est fait pour lui. Cela me fait penser au Dharma de l'Hindouisme, où un individu suit sa vérité personnelle.
Comment le relativisme peut-il mener à l'incohérence? (https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/relativism/)
je ne crois pas
Est-ce que 'croire' tout court et 'avoir des croyances' sont la même chose?
oeil rationnel et historique
Comment a-t-on parlé du sujet rationnel et de l'histoire (dominant) en classe?
Les valeurs collectives et les rassemblements sont nécessaires au développement du posthumain. Braidotti affirme aussi que le rôle de la communauté est très important dans cette évolution de l'être.
Préciser en quoi cette communauté peut (ou ne peut pas) être virtuelle?
Nous avons discuté aussi des aspects religieux qui lui ont été imposés:-Les prêtres qui ne voulaient pas me baptiser.-L'incapacité de se marier dans une église parce que son mari était divorcé d'un précédent mariage. -L'abandon de ses visites à l'église lorsqu'elle était en relation amoureuse avec une femme.
Pourquoi est-ce que cette partie ne se trouve pas sur la page Témoignage? Et quel est le lien entre 'choix' et la critique du sujet humain chez les posthumanistes?
Yusoff aborde cette proximité dans son explication de la présence de connections dans les relations humaines et comment elles sont qualifiées
Citation? Il n'est vraiment pas clair pour moi comment la notion de spiritualité se lie à l'inhumanisme dont parle Yusoff.
forme matérielle
Intégrer la notion de zoe comme matière et énergie ici?
he politics of the posthuman are enacted in each moment of being, manifested in full awareness. Posthuman politics are, in other words, spiritual politics. (p.253)
Expliquer pourquoi tu as choisi ces deux citations en particulier.
J'ai alors pensé à notre chapitre "Becoming-earth" et les nombreux enjeux que le posthumain comporte face à cette transformation. Lorsque nous avons parlé de la lune avec ma famille, j'étais surprise que ce soit l'astre qui soit mise de l'avant et non davantage la terre.
Dans quel sens plus profond est ce que c'est un exemple de 'devenir'? Il faut d'abord expliquer les traits essentiels de ce processus avant de parler d'un devenir-lune.
Cette page est dédiée à la recherche externe que j'ai effectué qui m'a permis d'être critique envers ma famille et moi-même, mais aussi le rôle de la spiritualité dans le posthumanisme.
Comment peux-tu aider le lecteur à mieux comprendre 1) les points de base de cette rencontre entre le posthumanisme et la religion? et 2) le lien entre ces points de base et les trois témoignanges?
. C'est en ayant un cours sur Gandhi que j'ai découvert ce nouveau (et ancien) monde. Présentement, soit le semestre d'hiver 2023, j'ai trois cours qui portent sur l'Asie et les religions qui s'y trouvent.
Tu racontes les faits/le cheminement de ces différentes rencontres avec des religions mais sans parler de tes croyances ni de tes valeurs - qu'as-tu gardé des valeurs (y compris féministes ou autre) de ta grand-mère et de ta mère?
La vie après la vie
Il y a plus de liens au posthumanisme sur cette page mais le tout est fragmenté - on se demande pourquoi tel ou tel aspect est choisi - comme l'immortalité artificielle ou la défamiliarisation. Il faut mieux expliciter ta démarche et en quoi elle répond aux questions de base sur le post-seculaire proposé par Braidotti dans son premier chapitre. Par exemple, Braidotti parle beaucoup du rôle des anciennes croyances de femme comme possibilité post-seculaire - comment est-ce que cet exemple se compare à celui de la vie de ta grand-mère?
été témoin
"et dont elle a été témoin"
Le pouvoir de la mémoire, comme le mentionne Braidotti, est un obstacle à la dé-familiarisation de telles valeurs religieuses imposées.
Je ne comprends pas cette phrase non plus - la mémoire peut très bien servir d'outil de défamiliarisation (ex. le sens de 'déjà-vu')
reçu
reçue
"Je ne le vois pas, mais mon corps le sens. J'y crois.
Faire un lien à nos discussions de la subjectivité comme encorporée?
l'être spirituel que ma grand-mère est posthumain.
Je ne comprends pas cette phrase - le posthumanisme met en question l'ontologie de l'être et pose les jalons d'une ontologie de l'étant ('becoming').
demander
demandé
excommunier
excommuniées
de grossesse
de mariage?
être enceinte
"tomber enceinte"
Elle relate que toutes sortes de menaces étaient fréquentes: aller en enfer, aller au purgatoire, être excommunié, se faire battre, etc. Ces menaces encadraient un comportement non voulu: trop faire de ceci, pas assez faire de cela.
C'est beaucoup de résumé de votre discussion - comment intégrer la perspective posthumaniste et une analyse/interprétation de ce témoignage? Voir par exemple : "This is not only a source of social marginalization, but also a dubious privilege, in view of the entrenched sexism of monotheistic religions and their shared conviction of the necessity to exclude women from the ministry and the administration of sacred functions. " (Braidotti p34)
"Parce que les hommes et les gars, eux autres, ils avaient les 4 pieds blancs. Ils pouvaient faire ce qu'ils voulaient pendant que nous, on pouvait rien faire. On pouvait pas conduire et on avait même pas le droit à notre propre opinion, encore moins la dire."
Pour 'faire vivre' le témoignage, ce serait bien d'intégrer des bouts d'enregistrement audio.
me répondit
le passé composé marcherait mieux que le passé simple ici
sociétales,
sociales
né
"née"
Cette page présente une légère biographie de ma grand-mère
Comment le posthumanisme cherche-t-il à mettre en question. la notion de la biographie comme histoire de l'individu? Qu'est-ce que l'individu d'après l'approche posthumaniste? Il faut faire le lien à nos discussions sur le soi, le sujet et la subjectivité comme trois modes ontologiques différents.
ux conversations et critiques posthumanistes
C'est très vague
de l'avenir spirituel et religieux du posthumain en se basant sur le passé pour comprendre l'avenir.
Il faut faire le lien aux discussions en classe sur le 'post-séculaire' (chapitre 1), sur la non-linéarité (chapitre 4) et sur le problème que pose plus généralement le spirituel au vitalisme matérialiste (si tout est matière, qu'est-ce que l'esprit pour un posthumaniste?)
Using these guides, I felt I could orient myself and reach a number of different important aspects to this topic (it also made me realize how much I could go into it, beyond just looking at the photos online).
Could you have combined or reworked some of the instagram posts to reflect a more ethical/critical thinking about women-serval relationships? (this could have been your more creative component...)
Turning to servals, they are not native to Russia as other animals such as Amur Tigers, Far Eastern Leopards, Eurasian Lynxes, Snow Leopards and Pallas Cats are more accustomed to the wintery climates of Russia's NorthEastern Regions. Rather than focusing on servals as the perfect pets, a posthuman future would include indigenous methodologies that appreciate the importance and dependence these wild cats have on our ecosystems. Instead of harvesting sables for their fur or servals for their Instagram views, we can appreciate them from an appropriate distance and look to big cats native to Russia to see how we can all live in a cohesive environment.
This, too, needs to be better integrated into the project - maybe a final page with a list of possible 'suggestions' in terms of aesthetics, keeping servals as pets, instagram practices, etc.?
Although the timeline does not cover Russia's recent geo-political issues, I want to give Russia's Invasion of Ukraine proper space here. The various topics covered in this project is not to glorify or uplift certain aspects of Russia, it is to shed light on an Internet phenomenon that has been circulating in the recent cultural canon of Instagram trends. Furthermore, coming from a Chuvash background, I have become sharply aware of the implications of Russia's recent turn towards unification, as over the years it has increasingly turned into an imperialist state that fosters homogenous values and traditions. It should not take a large scale invasion to recognize that Russia is comprised of many ethnic groups that are not Slavic, however the war has shown myself and many others that we are able to push against the government creating the same agenda for everyone, and grouping its population under one umbrella. This is just a personal opinion, but I feel that indigenous inclusion will be vital for shaping a Russia not centred around the invasion of neighbouring countries for the sake of stronger national power.
Move to welcome page - a question of 'situated knowledges'.
Photographs have the ability to be tagged with what the photographer wants to portray: kind of simulating the environment in which the photograph was taken.
Are you suggesting that this could be a model for exploring serval subjectivity on Instagram? Posting from their perspective? Using blurry photography, etc.? If so, state your idea more clearly - it is a good one!?
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explain this choice of image?
The selfie and various filters on Instagram are endless, so in the future we may be able to replicate a filter that includes the serval in it, rather than it being physically there to satisfy viewers. Users could upload pictures or videos of servals found in the wild, rather than keeping them as pets.
Interesting. How would this change the 'affective community' that Sharp (drawing on Spinoza) speaks about?
this article by ID
Which article? Is this supposed to be a link?
These women on Instagram become their own designers, curating a page where they participate in this subculture of having a serval. They are rapidly mobile women who assert their social status through social media and pet ownership.
But as you noted on a previous page, for some, it seems to be more about a love for servals, creating a story/home for them, rather than a status symbol thing.
This ties into how becoming-animal also shifts in the digital space, as we can assume new identities for the sake of exposure.
Unclear. How is this an example of 'becoming-animal' in the sense of affective communities (Spinoza/Sharp) or the sense of challenging human exceptionalism/post-anthropocentrism?
Russian Bimbocore
Need to define and explain the term 'bimbocore' - how does it trace a hard line between humans and animals? between men and women? etc.
namely the icy tundra of Siberia and Russia's more northern regions.
Would this be the more natural habitat of servals? need some connection to becoming-animal or human-animal relations here as well.
t is too great of a task to demolish all Instagram pages, but being more careful of the pages we come across and spending more time on the page itself. It is so easy to skim through social media pages that are unfamiliar, so it requires a slowing down our scrolling.
It might be helpful to explain the different steps in this issue: 1) developing a strong critical framework for 'viewing' pets on instagram more generally; 2) articulating a set of practices for different kinds of pets (servals more like dogs in terms of size so need larger domestic habitats? or servals more like exotic animals so need a ban on keeping them as pets? etc.)
In the majority of the posts, although the serval is being posted online, one can still recognize the positive affects on the pair.
Be more specific - how is affect seen in the serval? and the woman?
Telegram can be summed up by: "Telegram is similar to Apple’s Messages but it has dedicated apps for all platforms – PC, Mac, Linux, Android and iOS – and it also allows you to set up secret chats with messages that can self-destruct after a set amount of time, giving you a new level of privacy".
Make a clearer connection to Braidotti's 'becoming-machine'?
form their connection using this mutual recognition with one another.
A similar subservience to the (absent) male figure?
No men in sight - why?
Strange to ask this question immediately below the picture of a man, non?
Animals often appear in picture books and are characterized to be the perfect companion piece for the child - the two can simultaneously grow up with one another.
Link to Berger? Treating animals like family members, often like young children
Seems like this is how servals are circulated, with Instagram pages
In your annotations, you could mention some of the animal poses, the challenge to 'posing' and the way we 'gaze' or do not 'gaze' (objectify) the animals in the posts
Instagram can be a tool to highlight the more positive relationships that exist between serval and owner.
Come back to Berger's theoretical framework of 'seeing' (ie. objectifying) and the gaze?
Does the hashtag work in tandem in the post, or does it sit against the Instagram post, subliminally calling out what is being posted online.
Interesting question - follow-up? How does the hashtag challenge or facilitate 'becoming-animal'? (or reducing once again the animal to household decor)
Namely, the Instagram machine has a mind of its own, as the algorithm can so quickly direct you to what you are searching for.
You could connect this entire discussion to the concept of 'becoming-machine' and Braidotti's reflections on capitalist commodification of all of life.
women and servals both share attention and connection with one another, and it is being facilitated by social media.
How could you make a stronger claim based on Berger's critique? How do servals simply become another form of decor (like in the zoo setting)? How do the instagram posts contribute to making these animals a kind of 'household' decor? etc.
basically we have lost the ability to see animals as being just animals
And also the ability to see animals as wholly and completely other (something we can never fully understand) Why the owl image?
However, this relationship should not be romanticised either, as both do not exist in a constant state of utopia.
Careful with double negations - "neither exist in a state of utopia" - and with your use of the plural pronoun "we" - It's true that the Internet feels ubiquitous and available to all... but it's not.
They are the ones headlining the article linked beforehand.
Maybe come back to this first image and ask who is looking where? and seeing what? how are we asked to gaze at the woman and the serval in the first image?
The Posthuman as Becoming-Animal (Intertwined with the Machine)
You explain your project objectives and key questions on this page through a series of claims around a 'we', the Internet, post-Soviet aesthetics, but this all feels a little disjointed. You could have instead started with an analysis of your image - how do you see animal-human distance and proximity in this image? What mirroring effects are created? how does the serval challenge the selfie standard (not looking at the camera), etc? How are the two 'creatures' in the image positioned? who is closer to the camera? etc. You could also have defined 'becoming' with respect to this instagram post - in what ways does the image illustrate a 'becoming-animal'? a becoming-machine? Annotating the image could have been an interesting way to ask these questions.
where did you find doing most of your work? Did certain environments evoke certain bursts of motivation? Where did you feel the 'least productive'?
Questions you are asking the user or yourself?
Welcome to thinking with posthumanism
Could you propose a more interesting title?
They are in fact intrinsically dependant upon one another as both are made exponentially better when joined with the other.
I appreciate your enthusiasm and the fact that you are ending on a positive note but I think you could actually add: "at what cost? and to whom?" to the end of this sentence.
In fact, as opposed to the literary essay, the digital one is all about defying linearity and juggling these different pieces of the project your don't know how to come together. Furthermore, the digital medium creates this space where all your files are jumbled and each piece of information or picture has it's own file generating the same sensation of being overwhelmed that the bourgeois interior does.
These points could be linked to your discussion of environment and art, and the effect of objects on the mind on your weebly page.
Now it is time to rethink what reading is and how it works in the rich mixtures of words and images, sounds and animations, graphics and letters that constitute the environments of twenty-first-century literacies."
Interestingly, Hayles asserts in her article that machines can read. From your description of the preliminary steps to 'feeding findings in the machine,' I get the sense that you would disagree. In fact, your entire argument about translation as a loss of meaning (and your use of Google Translate) would support such a critique of Hayles' thinking. It would have been interesting to contrast your understanding of language and reading to that of Hayles.
the Dorian Gray hyper-reading visualization.
I would call this visualization an example of machine reading, actually, and not hyper-reading.
context.
You need a sentence here about machine reading since this is what Voyant Tools does.
analogue
I am a little confused by your use of the term analogue here. At first, I thought you were referring to recording audio on tape or something (so, sound waves). Use the word print to make it clear which medium you are referring to.
s. In fact, the nature of my project is multiple.
You could come back to your scalar visualization to explain the two main structures of your project (network vs. concentric circles).
I believe it would be interesting to analyze more texts from this époque to see if other themes and devices like this occur as well.
It would also be really interesting to see whether the uncanny emerges in the same way in texts by 19th century women writers like Mary Shelley or Jane Austen... or if it does at all - do women writers encounter/recreate this claustrophobia in the same way? What objects are most common in the bourgeois interior of their texts? I noticed that Prewitt Brown includes Austen and Woolf in her book. It would be interesting to see if she takes up some of these questions especially in light of feminist scholars Gilbert and Gubar's work, The Madwoman in the Attic: The Woman Writer and the Nineteenth-Century Literary Imagination (1979)
the other in German
Well actually, one is in 'English translated from German.'
Too bad the weebly page doesn't have an annotation tool! I'll put my comments here instead.
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The weebly pages are a great surprise! (Don't forgot to include copyright information for your images, and not just an URL)
The Tale of the 672nd Night
Given the merchant's son is not overwhelmed by so many objects, does the text still create a sense of the uncanny? Or is this the point you are making (in contrast to the two other texts)?
Visualization 2 (bourgeois. int) Visualization of the overwhelming factor of the bourgeois interior
This point about the overwhelming sense created by so many words and lines in the visualization is absolutely true. But this doesn't really show us something about the prevalence of object words in the novel (since this is a list of all words, right?) You would need to do some comparison of object words related to the bourgeois interior to other words in the novel to be able to say something conclusive (at least quantitatively) about the 'overwhelming' descriptions.
The Picture of Dorian Gray
But this is a visualization of all the words in the novel and not just the objects of the bourgeois interior, right? Could you have identified some of the most frequent nouns that point to the bourgeois interior? From what I can see, it seems like human characters are more important than objects; ex. dorian, henry, man, life, said, etc.
Again, the variety of visualizations is fantastic, but I'm missing the main argument/idea behind them. How do these graphs show the uncanny exactly? Are these parts of the text that you identified through close reading as creating a sense of the uncanny? and then you uploaded these parts into Voyant to see what kinds of words appeared at these points/moments?
The visualization is a word cloud of the main words used in this passage and therefore the champ lexical of the uncanny in this text.
I'm intrigued by the sizes of the words in this cloud. Did you change the settings to make the less important words really small? Or is this a visualization of word occurrences?
I chose to focus on the very lengthy description in Le Talisman of the antique shop to showcase the intrinsic relationship between objects and the uncanny which is epitomized in this description.
I need a little more help getting to this conclusion. Does the uncanny emerge from the relations between words that are identified in the visualization (which is also fascinating!)? ie. peau, hommes, jeune, monde, mort, vie, voir (and then a line shooting out to 'mouvement')
The uncanny and objects
Wow! How did you find the link to another scalar project?
The word "Dorian" follows a drastic fall in the visualization mirroring the one the character experiences in the novel.
This is a very cool visualization but I actually don't really know what I'm looking at. I can see that the use of the word Dorian peaks and then falls in the second half of the novel but I'm not sure how this connects to the point you are making about the uncanny. Is this the line in turquoise?
Your use of different styles of visualization is really effective on this page, especially in light of the parameters you used for each of your analysis (entering more or less text).
Furthermore, contrary to the other two visualizations this one is much more concise but also much more true to the character
Because there are so few words and links in the visualization, the reader actually has less room for interpretation. It might be interesting to discuss how the interpretive steps that you did before using the text analysis tool end up limiting what the tool can do (that a reader couldn't do - ie. count the number of words that appear most often around the name 'Dorian Gray' for example.
there isn't a version of the text available online, therefore I must type out the entirety of the passages I want to use into the Voyant tool by hand.
Ouf! this is a lot of work!
Although, Raphaël is the main character , until he gets the peau he is referred to as the "jeune homme" and the "inconnu".
Again, you might offer an interpretation of the ways in which words contrast each other in this visualization - ex. sourire/mort follow each other in the list on the right (but I actually don't see much else). There are other words that fit together in terms of champ lexical though, like mains, tête, bouche, yeux, coeur that could all be part of 'corps' as a champ lexical.
The second visualization is created from a search of all the moments where the words "Dorian Gray" appear in the novel and the paragraphs which concern the character that are around it. This is for the whole novel.
Could you explain a little why you are using visualizations with respect to 'champ lexical'? I'm a little confused. I think topic modelling might actually be more like 'champ lexical' because it identifies all the words in a text that are part of a same theme/topic. But maybe I didn't follow the link between the introduction to this part of the project and your analysis of character. It's true that the reader forms an image of the character based on the words around their name but this isn't a champ lexical... or at least, not how I understand it.
La traduction du champ lexical est celle où la langue devient la plus contraignante, car c'est ce qui permet de donné de l'importance ou mettre de l'emphase sur une partie plutôt qu'une autre.
Pourriez-vous donner votre définition du champ lexical? Je ne suis pas sûre que je pense à la même chose que vous !
Aussi, plus le champ lexical d'un mot est étoffé (surtout concentré à un paragraphe) plus ce passage est important mais aussi plus le lecteur a une sensation de pesanteur, de lourdeur et d'envahissement. Ceci sert énormément dans les différents textes pour créer l'environnement propice au fantastique ainsi que le sentiment de supplice des personnages envers les objets.
Une observation très intéressante. Vous voulez dire que le texte crée de plus en plus de connexions sémantiques?
C'est grâce aux champs lexicaux qu'on peut retrouver le sens exact d'un passage et d'un mot.
Mais les champs lexicaux changent au cours du temps, n'est-ce pas? S'il s'agit des mots qui sont associés à d'autres mots, ces associations peuvent changer; ex. pendant longtemps la montagne était considérée comme laide, hideuse, le contraire d'un paysage beau (donc on n'aurait pas trouvé le mot 'montagne' dans le champ lexical 'paysage'); c'est grâce à Rousseau que la montagne est devenue un exemple de la 'belle nature'.
The meaning and beauty of the text is obviously lost as well as Wilde's characteristic poetic rhythm and the foreshadowing.
What strikes me in this initial description is the emphasis on a much more natural/garden setting and the way it contrasts with the urban interiors that you will discuss in the next part of the project. I'm wondering if it would have made sense to analyse how the words about nature get translated compared to words about objects (like 'saccoche').
“All happy families are alike; each unhappy family is unhappy in its own way.”
Or Charles Dickens The Tale of Two Cities - "It was the best of times, it was the worst of times..."
This can be seen in any passage or description that one choses to import into Google Translate,
Important point!!
foreshowing
foreshadowing?
Oscar Wilde's descriptions are perfect
See my previous point about why these (overly) appreciative statements are problematic.
unfathomable number of cultural references
Well not exactly unfathomable... there are three references to Greek myth and then two references to the Church.
, there is almost a sensation of poetry, a poetic rhythmic to the passage.
You need to support this claim - what qualifies as 'poetry or poetic rhythmic' for you? The use of alliteration? The sentence length? etc. etc.
Wilde's descriptions are dense with cultural references.
But Balzac's passage has a ton of cultural references as well - Poussin, Michel-Ange, Claude Lorrain, Gérard Dow, Sterne, Rembrandt, Murillo, Velasquez, lord Byron, Raphaël, Corrège !
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Je n'avais pas compris que le texte à droite vient de Google Translate et je me demandais pourquoi c'était tellement 'plat' comme traduction. Est-ce que vous auriez pu inclure une explication du processus avant ou après l'image? ex. pourquoi vous avez choisi de jouer avec cet outil, ce qu'il vous a permis de constater, etc.
la beauté des descriptions de Balzac sont hors du commun
Attention aux appréciations sommaires (un peu trop subjectives!) Vous pouvez dire par contre que les descriptions de Balzac recréent avec une grande authenticité les petits détails du lieu en question.
En effet, les deux autres auteurs en anglais ne semblent pas capables d'atteindre le même niveau de sophistication que Balzac offre sur toutes les pages.
Comme vous avez lu Hofmannsthal en anglais et non pas en allemand, il ne faudrait pas l'inclure dans votre comparaison ici.
les oeuvre de Hofmannsthal et de Wilde, ce qui est attribuable au langue et la concision de la langue anglaise.
mais l'oeuvre de Hofmannsthal est une nouvelle et non pas un roman, n'est-ce pas?
Les descriptions sont d'une importance cruciale dans un texte de ce genre car l'auteur doit créer le monde "réel" d'avant. Il doit être capable de décrire l'élément du fantastique, soit comment il fait éruption dans la vie du personnage, et son évolution, tout en rendant le tout crédible pour le lectorat. Finalement, il doit décrire la folie qui s'installe chez le personnage principal.
Vous pourriez vous servir de la théorie de la littérature fantastique de Todorov ici.
t un des premiers roman
Référence bibliographique?
Les descriptions dans La Peau de chagrin sont phénoménales.
Ce n'est pas étonnant dans un roman réaliste où la description prend une valeur informative et / ou symbolique très importante.
In conclusion, this translation of the written word doesn't do the text and magnitude of the moment justice.
Also the difference between literal translation by a machine and contextual translation by a professional. But you might ask here what it would take for a machine to be able to translate as well as human...
It is important to note that I am not using the original for my analysis but the English translation by J.M.Q. Davies. Therefore, something has already been lost from the origina
Or rather, your interpretation is limited to the effects of the English translation. Whether something has been lost is impossible to say since you have not read the original German.
This is an example of a good translation that stays true to the meaning and feeling that wants to be triggered in the reader.
You need to avoid these kinds of statements since you have not read the original. You can only really speak to the impact of the English translation...
even more impactful
Why is it impactful? What are the traits of impactfullness? What strikes me about the Balzaz passage and this passage are the exactly opposing attitudes of the characters towards the objects - in Balzac, the gaze is one of disgust, distaste, dislike; whereas in H, the character is clearly delighted with this variety of objects. Another thing that strikes me in this passage is the use of repetition - "discovered... discovered... colours... colours... colours..." I wonder if this is similar in the German original.
he is describing
A reminder to not forget the narrator (who is not the author).
I believe Hofmannsthal steps up to the task (as does his translator) of conveying meaning but with an even bigger impact because, in fact, the descriptions are so brief and to the point.
But how can you know if this 'impactful description' appears in the same way in the original? If you are going to make an argument about the original text, I think you need to have read it, especially in light of the more general argument you are making in your project that translation necessarily incurs losses.
First of all, it is the first text which I haven't read in the original but rather that I have read the translated version in English. This I believe impacts the true meaning of the story and taints my true understanding of the text.
This point about not reading the original in German should appear on the introduction page to 'translation' somewhere (with additional justification and explanation).
authors' commentary r
Do you mean the narrators' commentary?
The translator must often times try to strike a balance between mimicking the dream world and societal commentary by the author whilst still attempting to stay true to the written word and rhythm of the original.
For future developments of the project - I'm thinking it would be useful to read a few key texts in literary translation studies.
descriptions even allow the author to pass certain remarks on his own life and environment.
I'm not quite sure what you are referring to here when you speak of the author's 'own life and environment'. Metatextual references? Autobiographical references? Why would description be more amenable to these references than say dialogue?
they help immerse the reader into the world of the book
Again, you have two competing explanations of how literature works here - 1) the reader imagines the storyworld 'for himself' ; vs. 2) the reader 'finds' the storyworld in the text.
Descriptions are the heart of any text
Some would argue the opposite; ie. that plot is at the heart of any text!
It feels like you were moving a little too quickly through your arguments on this page. Including some actual definitions from the Grand Robert and the OED would have helped support your claims (and illustrated the evolution of meaning over time). I would have liked a few quotes from the book as well where the word 'picture' alongside or in opposition to 'portrait' is being used.
There is no loss of meaning in the different translations. In fact, portraits were something common to the European lifestyle of the time. Therefore, all languages had an equivalent that achieved a similar resonance within the reader.
You need to support your claims with bibliographical references.
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Could you include the copyright information for the image in the description?
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Could you annotate the image to explain why you included it?
In his translation, J.M.Q. Davies uses the term "jeweller's shop", there is a nuance and it does bridge a certain gap in meaning.
What is the original word used in German?
In Hugo Von Hofmannsthal's The Tale of the 672nd Night, we can argue that the uncanny appears as the main character, the merchant's son, enters the jewelry shop in a poorer neighbourhood of Vienna.
I know this question came up a few times in our discussion of your project, but I'm still unsure about the fact that you are not considering the original word/text in German - were there any students in the fin-de-siècle class you took with Professor Peters who did speak German?
le terme magic skin rappelle plutôt une impression de génie, d'Aladin où on pourrait voir ce développement comme étant quelque chose de positif.
Je pense qu'il faudrait regarder le OED (Oxford English Dictionary) pour mieux comprendre ce que le mot 'magic' voulait dire au 19e siècle (probablement pas Aladin!) et comment le sens a changé au cours des années.
peau car ça sera une vrai peau, un véritable morceau de cuir, et aussi le mot chagrin, à son avantage.
J'ai lu ce texte pour la première fois il y a vingt ans et ma façon de comprendre 'peau' était à peu près pareille à la vôtre. Mais ma façon de lire a changé au cours des années et je fais beaucoup plus attention maintenant aux références à la 'question animale' (Derrida) dans les textes littéraires. Pour moi, il faudrait lire ce roman de Balzac dans le contexte du rapport humain-animal au 19e siècle. Autrement dit, on pourrait enrichir notre interprétation du texte en le situant dans d'autres contextes et en changeant d'angle d'interprétation. Tout ça pour dire que le 'cultural apparatus' ne reste pas le même au cours des années et que c'est exactement pour cela qu'un texte s'avère 'great' - il donne naissance à de nouvelles interprétations presque 200 ans plus tard.
La peau de chagrin faisait déjà partie du registre et du vocabulaire des gens. C'était un terme qui avait une signification et était évocateur d'une époque culturelle ainsi que d'un milieu.
Cette description détaillée du contexte socio-historique soulève tout de suite une question importante pour moi - qu'en est-il du lecteur francophone contemporain qui n'a pas ce même contexte? est-il voué à ne pas comprendre le texte complètement? ou peut-il construire un sens légèrement différent mais tout aussi riche sur le plan linguistique et culturel selon les liens qu'il est capable de faire entre cette expression et d'autres expressions en français?
En effet, le terme peau de chagrin qui est si évocateur en langue française perd tout son sens en anglais.
Il 'perd tout sens' ou il acquiert un tout autre sens?
he has to use different imagery if he wants it to resonate in the same way in every language.
But for Coetzee, there is no 'original' and so no loss of meaning; instead, there is 'different imagery' as you point out.
In fact, the original work inscribes itself within the cultural apparatus of this language, the imagery often referring to previous works, recalling other greats and allowing for a deeper connection with meaning. In fact, it is these nuances in language which make a text great, as it refers back to the other great texts.
I'm curious as to how you are constructing a notion of a text's greatness in this project. Here you seem to be pointing to intertextuality as a measure of greatness whereas earlier you are evoking rich imagery. This idea of great literature very much aligns with Harold Bloom's way of thinking (see for example The Western Canon) but it has also been highly critiqued by feminist and post-colonial scholars. Given that you have chosen three, white male authors, you may want to acknowledge this position at some point in the project - not to apologize for it but instead to recognize the link between a literary discourse about 'great' works and the creation of the Western Canon.
Imagery can be very evocative
And imagery necessarily implies a reader.
t a truly good translation is about translating the essence and emotions procured by the original. With a good translation, the reader gleams a bit of the wonder and greatness of the original work.
You have a couple different arguments going on about literature here: on the one hand, that great works have an essence that transcends time; on the other, that texts provoke emotions in readers (and these would necessarily change depending on the reader).
how "translatable" the different languages in and of themselves are.
Hmm, Walkowitz links 'translatability' to form so that it is not the language that is translatable in and of itself but the form taken by the literary text. I think you are actually making a similar argument about specific words and their embeddedness.
the same époque
There is a gap of almost sixty years now? We go from Balzac's realism to Wilde's décadence over this time period.
the translator must undertake in order to be as true to the words and the meaning as he possibly can.
Don't forget that the translator is also trying to 'be true' to her own socio-historical context, which is why 'revised' or 'new' translations come out.
a cultural apparatus
Exactly. And this 'cultural apparatus' changes over time. So even if the words on the page are the same, the cultural apparatus - that I understand as both what the reader brings to the text and what is found 'in' the text - changes over time.