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Reviewer #3 (Public review):
The authors of this paper identify an enhancer that upstream of the Ctnnb1 gene that selectively enhances expression in intestinal cells. This enhancer sequence drives expression of a reporter gene in the intestine and knockout of this enhancer attenuates Ctnnb1 expression in the intestine, while protecting mice from intestinal cancers. The human counterpart of this enhancer sequence is functional and involved in tumorigenesis. Overall, this is an excellent example of how to fully characterize a cell-specific enhancer. The strength of the study is the thorough nature of the analysis and the relevance of the data to development of intestinal tumors in both mice and humans. A minor weakness was that that loss of this enhancer does not completely compromise expression of Ctnnb1 gene in the intestine, suggesting that other elements are likely involved. The authors have now addressed this concern.
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Reviewer #1 (Public Review):
The authors developed a rigorous methodology for identifying all Cancer Driving Nucleotides (CDNs) by leveraging the concept of massively repeated evolution in cancer. By focusing on mutations that recur frequently in pan-cancer, they aimed to differentiate between true driver mutations and neutral mutations, ultimately enhancing the understanding of the mutational landscape that drives tumorigenesis. Their goal was to call a comprehensive catalogue of CDNs to inform more effective targeted therapies and address issues such as drug resistance.
Strengths
(1) The authors introduced a concept of using massively repeated evolution to identify CDNs. This approach recognizes that advantageous mutations recur frequently (at least 3 times) across cancer patients, providing a lens to identify true cancer drivers.
(2) The theory showed the feasibility of identifying almost all CDNs if the number of sequenced patients increases to 100,000 for each cancer type.
Weaknesses
(1) The methodology remains theoretical and no novel true driver mutations were identified in this study.
(2) Different cancer types have unique mutational landscapes. The methodology, while robust, might face challenges in uniformly identifying CDNs across various cancers with distinct genetic and epigenetic contexts.
(3) L223, the statement "In other words, the sequences surrounding the high-recurrence sites appear rather random.". Since it was a pan-cancer analysis, the unique patterns of each cancer type could be strongly diluted in the pan-cancer data.
(4) To solidify the findings, the results need to be replicated in an independent dataset.
(5) The key scripts and the list of key results (i.e., CDN sites with i{greater than or equal to}3) need to be shared to enable replication, validation, and further research. So far, only CDN sites with i{greater than or equal to}20 have been shared.
(6) The versions of data used in this study are not clearly detailed, such as the specific version of gnomAD and the version and date of TCGA data downloaded from the GDC Data Portal.
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Reviewer #2 (Public Review):
Summary:
The authors propose that cancer-driver mutations can be identified by Cancer Driving Nucleotides (CDNs). CDNs are defined as SNVs that occur frequently in genes. There are many ways to define cancer driver mutations, and the strengths and weaknesses are the reliance on statistics to define them.
Strengths:
There are many well-known approaches and studies that have already identified many canonical driver mutations. A potential strength is that mutation frequencies may be able to identify as yet unrecognized driver mutations. They use a previously developed method to estimate mutation hotspots across the genome (Dig, Sherman et al 2022). This publication has already used cancer sequence data to infer driver mutations based on higher-than-expected mutation frequencies. The advance here is to further illustrate that recurrent mutations (estimated at 3 or more mutations (CDNs) at the same base) are more likely to be the result of selection for a driver mutation (Figure 3). Further analysis indicates that mutation sequence context (Figure 4) or mutation mechanisms (Figure 5) are unlikely to be major causes for recurrent point mutations. Finally, they calculate (Figure 6) that most driver mutations identifiable by the CDN approach could be identified with about 100,000 to one million tumor coding genomes.
Weaknesses:
The manuscript does provide specific examples where recurrent mutations identify known driver mutations but do not identify "new" candidate driver mutations. Driver mutation validation is difficult and at least clinically, frequency (ie observed in multiple other cancer samples) is indeed commonly used to judge if an SNV has driver potential. The method would miss alternative ways to trigger driver alterations (translocations, indels, epigenetic, CNVs). Nevertheless, the value of the manuscript is its quantitative analysis of why mutation frequencies can identify cancer driver mutations.
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Reviewer #1 (Public Review):
Summary:
Cai et al have investigated the role of msiCAT-tailed mitochondrial proteins that frequently exist in glioblastoma stem cells. Overexpression of msiCAT-tailed mitochondrial ATP synthase F1 subunit alpha (ATP5) protein increases the mitochondrial membrane potential and blocks mitochondrial permeability transition pore formation/opening. These changes in mitochondrial properties provide resistance to staurosporine (STS)-induced apoptosis in GBM cells. Therefore, msiCAT-tailing can promote cell survival and migration, while genetic and pharmacological inhibition of msiCAT-tailing can prevent the overgrowth of GBM cells.
Strengths:
The CAT-tailing concept has not been explored in cancer settings. Therefore, the present provides new insights for widening the therapeutic avenue.
Weaknesses:
Although the paper does have strengths in principle, the weaknesses of the paper are that these strengths are not directly demonstrated. The conclusions of this paper are mostly well-supported by data, but some aspects of image acquisition and data analysis need to be clarified and extended.
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Reviewer #2 (Public Review):
This work explores the connection between glioblastoma, mito-RQC, and msiCAT-tailing. They build upon previous work concluding that ATP5alpha is CAT-tailed and explore how CAT-tailing may affect cell physiology and sensitivity to chemotherapy. The authors conclude that when ATP5alpha is CAT-tailed, it either incorporates into the proton pump or aggregates and that these events dysregulate MPTP opening and mitochondrial membrane potential and that this regulates drug sensitivity. This work includes several intriguing and novel observations connecting cell physiology, RQC, and drug sensitivity. This is also the first time this reviewer has seen an investigation of how a CAT tail may specifically affect the function of a protein. However, some of the conclusions in this work are not well supported. This significantly weakens the work but can be addressed through further experiments or by weakening the text.
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Summary:
This work contributes several important and interesting observations regarding the heterotolerance of non-growing Escherichia coli and Pseudomonas aeruginosa to the antimicrobial peptide tachyplesin. The primary mechanism of action of tachyplesin is thought to be disruption of the bacterial cell envelope, leading to leakage of cellular contents after a threshold level of accumulation. Although the MIC for tachyplesin in exponentially growing E. coli is just 1 ug/ml, the authors observe that a substantial fraction of a stationary phase population of bacteria survive much higher concentrations, up to 64 ug/ml. By using a fluorescently-labelled analogue of tachyplesin, the authors show that the amount of per-cell intracellular accumulation of tachyplesin displays a bimodal distribution and that the fraction of "low accumulators" correlates with the fraction of survivors.
Using a microfluidic device, they show that low accumulators exclude propidium iodide, suggesting that their cell envelopes remain largely intact, while high accumulators of tachyplesin also stain with propidium iodide. They show that this phenomenon holds for several clinical isolates of E. coli with different genetic determinants of antibiotic resistance, and for a strain of Pseudomonas aeruginosa. However, the bimodal distribution does not occur in these organisms for several other antimicrobial peptides, or for tachyplesin in Klebsiella pneumoniae or Staphylococcus aureus, indicating some degree of specificity in the interaction between AMP and bacterial cell envelope. They next explore the dynamics of the fluorescent tachyplesin accumulation and show interestingly that a high degree of accumulation is initially seen in all cells, but that the "low accumulator" subpopulation manages to decrease the amount of intracellular fluorescence over time, while the "high accumulator" subpopulation continues to increase its intracellular fluorescence. Focusing on increased efflux as a hypothesised mechanism for the "low accumulator" phenotype, based on transcriptomic analysis of the two subpopulations, the authors screen putative efflux inhibitors to see if they can block the formation of the low accumulator subpopulation. They find that both the protonophore CCCP and the SSRI sertraline can block the formation of this subpopulation and that a combination of sertraline plus tachyplesin kills a greater fraction of the stationary phase cells than either agent alone, similar to the killing observed when growing cells are treated with tachyplesin.
Strengths:
This study provides new insight into the heterogeneous behaviours of non-growing bacteria when exposed to an antimicrobial peptide, and into the dynamics of their response. The single-cell analysis by FACS and microscopy is compelling. The results provide a much-needed single-cell perspective on the phenomenon of tolerance to AMPs and a good starting point for further exploration.
Weaknesses:
My main concerns surround the conclusions drawn about the physiological underpinnings of these behaviours, based in part on transcriptomic analysis and also on the observation of the dynamics. I think deeper consideration of the relative contributions of influx and efflux to the observed accumulation dynamics, and the slow/non-growing context of the observations would be helpful. In particular, these issues seem important:
(1) The initial high accumulation by all cells followed by the emergence of a sub-population that has reduced its intracellular levels of tachyplesin is a key observation and I agree with the authors' conclusion that this suggests an induced response to the AMP is important in facilitating the bimodal distribution. However, I think the conclusion that upregulated efflux is driving the reduction in signal in the "low accumulator" subpopulation is not fully supported. Steady-state amounts of intracellular fluorescent AMP are determined by the relative rates of influx and efflux and a decrease could be caused by decreasing influx (while efflux remained unchanged), increasing efflux (while influx remained unchanged), or both decreasing influx and increasing efflux. Given the transcriptomic data suggest possible changes in the expression of enzymes that could affect outer membrane permeability and outer membrane vesicle formation as well as efflux, it seems very possible that changes to both influx and efflux are important. The "efflux inhibitors" shown to block the formation of the low accumulator subpopulation have highly pleiotropic or incompletely characterised mechanisms of action so they also do not exclusively support a hypothesis of increased efflux.
(2) A conclusion of the transcriptomic analysis is that the lower accumulating subpopulation was exhibiting "a less translationally and metabolically active state" based on less upregulation of a cluster of genes including those involved in transcription and translation. This conclusion seems to borrow from well-described relationships referred to as bacterial growth laws in which the expression of genes involved in ribosome production and translation is directly related to the bacterial growth (and metabolic) rate. However, the assumptions that allow the formulation of the bacterial growth laws (balanced, steady state, exponential growth) do not hold in growth arrest. A non-growing cell could express no genes at all or could express ribosomal genes at a very low level, or efflux pumps at a high level. The distribution of transcripts among the functional classes of genes does not reveal anything about metabolic rates within the context of growth arrest - it only allows insight into metabolic rates when the constraint of exponential growth can be assumed. Efflux pumps can be highly metabolically costly; for example, Tn-Seq experiments have repeatedly shown that mutants for efflux pump gene transcriptional repressors have strong fitness disadvantages in energy-limited conditions. There are no data presented here to disprove a hypothesis that the low accumulators have high metabolic rates but allocate all of their metabolic resources to fortifying their outer membranes and upregulating efflux. This could be an important distinction for understanding the vulnerabilities of this subpopulation. Metabolic rates can be more directly estimated for single cells using respiratory dyes or pulsed metabolic labelling, for example, and these data could allow deeper insight into the metabolic rates of the two subpopulations.
The observation that adding nutrients to the stationary phase cultures pushes most of the cells to the "high accumulator" state is presented as support of the hypothesis that the high accumulator state is a higher metabolism/higher translational activity state. However, it is important to note that adding nutrients will cause most or all of the cells in the population to start to grow, thus re-entering the familiar regime in which bacterial growth laws apply. This is evident in the slightly larger cell sizes seen in the nutrient-amended condition. In contrast to stationary phase cells, growing cells largely do not exhibit the bimodal distribution, and they are much more sensitive to tachyplesin, as demonstrated clearly in the supplement. Growing cells are not necessarily the same as the high-accumulating subpopulation of non-growing cells.
It might also be worth adding some additional context around the potential to employ efflux inhibitors as therapeutics. It is very clear that obtaining sufficient antimicrobial drug accumulation within Gram-negative bacteria is a substantial barrier to effective treatments, and large concerted efforts to find and develop therapeutic efflux pump inhibitors have been undertaken repeatedly over the last 25 years. Sufficiently selective inhibitors of bacterial efflux pumps with appropriate drug-like properties have been challenging to find and none have entered clinical trials. Multiple psychoactive drugs have been shown to impact efflux in bacteria but usually using concentrations in the 10-100 uM range (as here). Meanwhile, the Ki values for their human targets are usually in the sub- to low-nanomolar range. The authors rightly note that the concentration of sertraline they have used is higher than that achieved in patients, but this is by many orders of magnitude, and it might be worth expanding a bit on the substantial challenge of finding efflux inhibitors that would be specific and non-toxic enough to be used therapeutically. Many advances in structural biology, molecular dynamics, and medicinal chemistry may make the quest for therapeutic efflux inhibitors more fruitful than it has been in the past but it is likely to remain a substantial challenge.
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Reviewer #2 (Public Review):
Summary:
This study reports on the existence of subpopulations of isogenic E. coli and P. aeruginosa cells that are tolerant to the antimicrobial peptide tachyplesin and are characterized by the accumulation of low levels of a fluorescent tachyplesin-NBD conjugate. The authors then set out to address the molecular mechanisms, providing interesting insights even though the mechanism remains incompletely defined: The work suggests that amongst others changes in membrane lipid composition and increased drug efflux may cause this phenotype and it demonstrates that pharmacological manipulation can prevent generation of tolerance. The authors are cautious in their interpretation and the claims made are largely justified by the data.
Strengths:
Going beyond the commonly used bulk techniques for studying susceptibility to AMPs , Lee et al. used fluorescent antibiotic conjugates in combination with flow cytometry analysis to study variability in drug accumulation at the single-cell level. This powerful approach enabled the authors to expose bimodal drug accumulation patterns that were condition-dependent, but conserved across a variety of E. coli clinical isolates. Using cell sorting in combination with colony-forming unit assays as well as quantitative fluorescence microscopic analysis in a microfluidics setup the authors compellingly demonstrate that low accumulators (where the fluorescence signal is mostly restricted to the membrane), can survive antibiotic treatment, whereas high accumulators (with high intracellular fluorescence) were killed. Comparative transcriptomics analysis of sorted ´low accumulator´ and ´high accumulator´ subpopulations suggest that changes in the lipid composition, increased efflux, and other mechanisms may contribute to tachyplesin-tolerance in this subpopulation. Lipidomics analysis of bulk untreated vs. tachyplesin-NBD treated cells confirmed changes in the lipid composition in accordance with the transcriptomics data. Intriguingly, a time-course experiment on tachyplesin-NBD accumulation revealed that all cells initially were high accumulators, before a subpopulation of cells subsequently managed to reduce the signal intensity (most likely through efflux), demonstrating that the ´low accumulator´ phenotype is an induced response and not a pre-existing property.
Finally, the demonstration that treatment with efflux pump inhibitors (although some caution needs to be taken regarding the selectivity of these inhibitors, see comment on weaknesses below) prevents the generation of low accumulators and enhances tachyplesin-based killing is an important basis for developing combination therapies.
The study convincingly illustrates how susceptibility to tachoplesin adaptively changes in a heterogeneous way dependent on the growth phases/ environments and availability of nutrients. This is highly relevant also beyond the presented example of tachyplesin and similar subpopulation-based adaptive changes to the susceptibility towards antimicrobial peptides or other drugs that may occur during infections in vivo and they would likely be missed out by standardized in vitro susceptibility testing.
Weaknesses:
Some questions regarding the mechanism remain. One shortcoming of the setup of the transcriptomics experiment is that the tachyplesin-NBD probe itself has antibiotic efficacy and induces phenotypes (and eventually cell death) in the ´high accumulator´cells. This makes it challenging to interpret whether any differences seen between the two groups are causative for the observed accumulation pattern or if they are a consequence of differential accumulation and downstream phenotypic effects. The role of efflux systems is further supported by the finding that efflux pump inhibitors sensitize E. coli to tachyplesin and prevent the occurrence of the tolerant ´low accumulator´ subpopulations. In principle, this is a great way of validating the role of efflux pumps, but the limited selectivity of these inhibitors (CCCP is an uncoupling agent, and for sertraline direct antimicrobial effects on E. coli have been reported by Bohnert et al.) leaves some ambiguity as to whether the synergistic effect is truly mediated via efflux pump inhibition. It would be relevant to test and report the MIC of sertraline for the strain tested, particularly since in Figure 4G an initial reduction in CFUs is observed for sertraline treatment, which suggests the existence of biological effects in addition to efflux inhibition.
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Reviewer #3 (Public Review):
Summary:
The study tests the phenotypic response of bacteria (mainly E. coli) to antimicrobial peptides (AMPs) such as tachyplesin. The resistance mechanisms to AMPs differ from those to classical antibiotics in that AMP resistance involves more non-genetic mechanisms, which are largely unknown but are important to understand. This work aims to elucidate the mechanism of such phenotypic resistance.
Strengths:
The experiments unambiguously reveal that the cells respond to stress heterogeneously, with two distinct subpopulations - one with better survival than the other. This primary phenotype is convincingly shown across various E. coli strains, including clinical isolates.
Weaknesses:
The authors' claims about high efflux being the main mechanism of survival are unconvincing, given the current data. There can be several alternative hypotheses that could explain their results, such as lower binding of the AMP, lower rate of internalization, metabolic inactivity, etc. It is unclear how efflux can be important for survival against a peptide that the authors claim binds externally to the cell. The addition of efflux assays would be beneficial for clear interpretations. Further genetic experiments are necessary to test whether efflux genes are involved at all.
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Reviewer #1 (Public Review):
Summary:
The study addresses the growing threat of multi-drug-resistant (MDR) pathogens, focusing on the efficacy of colistin (COL), a last-resort antibiotic, and its enhanced activity when combined with artesunate (AS) and ethylenediaminetetraacetic acid (EDTA) against colistin-resistant Salmonella strains. The researchers aim to explore whether these combinations can restore the effectiveness of colistin and understand the underlying mechanisms. The study used a combination of microbiological and molecular techniques to evaluate the antibacterial activity and mechanisms of action of COL, AS, and EDTA.
Key methods include:
(1) Antimicrobial Susceptibility Testing: Determining minimum inhibitory concentrations (MICs) of COL, AS, and EDTA, both alone and in combination, against various Salmonella strains;
(2) Time-Kill Assays: Measuring bacterial growth inhibition over time with different drug combinations;
(3) Fluorescent Probe-Permeability Assays: Assessing cell membrane integrity using fluorescent dyes;
(4) Proton Motive Force Assay: Evaluating the impact on the electrochemical proton gradient (PMF);
(5) Reactive Oxygen Species (ROS) Measurement: Quantifying intracellular ROS levels; (vi) Scanning Electron Microscopy (SEM): Observing morphological changes in bacterial cells; and
(6) Omics Analysis: Transcriptome and metabolome profiling to identify differentially expressed genes (DEGs) and significant differential metabolites (SDMs).
The combination of COL, AS, and EDTA (AEC) showed significant antibacterial activity against colistin-resistant Salmonella strains, reducing the MICs and enhancing bacterial killing compared to individual treatments. The AEC treatment caused extensive damage to both the outer and inner bacterial membranes, as evidenced by increased fluorescence of membrane-impermeant dyes and SEM images showing deformed cell membranes. AEC treatment selectively collapsed the Δψ component of PMF, indicating disruption of vital cellular processes. The combination therapy increased intracellular ROS levels, contributing to bacterial killing. Transcriptome data revealed changes in genes related to two-component systems, flagellar assembly, and ABC transporters. Metabolome analysis highlighted disruptions in pathways such as arachidonic acid metabolism. The findings suggest that AS and EDTA can potentiate the antibacterial effects of colistin by disrupting bacterial membranes, collapsing PMF, and increasing ROS levels. This combination therapy could serve as a promising approach to combat colistin-resistant Salmonella infections.
Strengths:
(1) The study employs a wide range of techniques to thoroughly investigate the antibacterial mechanisms and efficacy of the drug combinations.
(2) The results are consistent across multiple assays and supported by both in vitro and in vivo data.
(3) Combining AS and EDTA with COL represents a novel strategy to tackle antibiotic resistance.
Weaknesses:
(1) The study focuses on a limited number of Salmonella strains, and broader testing on various MDR pathogens would strengthen the findings.
(2) While the study elucidates several mechanisms, further molecular details could provide deeper insights into the interactions between these drugs and bacterial targets.
(3) The time-kill experiment was conducted over 12 hours instead of the recommended 24 hours. To demonstrate a synergistic effect among the drugs, a reduction of at least 2 log10 in colony count should be shown in a 24-hour experiment. Additionally, clarifying the criteria for selecting drug concentrations is important to improve the interpretation of the results.
(4) While the combination of EDTA, artesunate, and colistin shows promising in vitro results against Salmonella strains, the clinical application of this combination warrants careful consideration due to potential toxicity issues associated with these compounds.
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Reviewer #2 (Public Review):
Summary:
The study by Zhai et al describes repurposing of artesunate, to be used in combination with EDTA to resensitize Salmonella spp. to colistin. The observed effect applied both to strains with and without mobile colistin resistance determinants (MCR). It was already known that EDTA in combination with colistin has an inhibitory effect on MCR-enzymes, but at the same time, both colistin and EDTA can contribute to nephrotoxicity, something which is also true for artesunate. Thus, the triple combination of three nephrotoxic agents has significant challenges in vivo, which is not particularly discussed in this paper.
Strengths:
The study is sound from a methodological point of view and has many interesting angles to address mechanistically how the three compounds can synergize.
Weaknesses:
(1) The selection of strains is not very clear. Nothing is known about the sequence types of the strains or how representative they are for strains circulating in general. Thus, it is difficult to generalize from this limited number of isolates, although the studies done in these isolates are comprehensive.
(2) Nothing is known about the susceptibility of the strains to other novel antimicrobial agents. Colistin has a limited role in the treatment of gram-negative infections, and although it can be used sometimes in combination, it is not clear why it would be combined with two other nephrotoxic agents and how this could have relevance in a clinical setting.
(3) It is not clear whether their transcriptomics analysis should at least be carried out in duplicate for reasons of being able to assess reproducibility. It is also not clear why the samples were incubated for 6 hours - no discussion is presented on the selection of a time point for this.
(4) Discussion is lacking on the reproducibility and selection of details for the methodology.
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Reviewer #3 Public Review):
Summary:
The authors have studied the combination of three compounds, artesunate, EDTA, and colistin, to improve the activity of colistin instead of artesunate and colistin, which is weakly active. The three compounds appeared to possess activity against macr1 Salmonella both in vitro and in vivo.
Strengths:
A strong panel of experiments has been carried out.
Weaknesses:
(1) Number of strains tested.
(2) Lack of data on cytotoxicity.
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Reviewer #1 (Public Review):
Summary:
In this study, the authors investigate the effect of mitochondrial transplantation on post-cardiac arrest myocardial dysfunction (PAMD), which is associated with mitochondrial dysfunction. The authors demonstrate that mitochondrial transplantation enhances cardiac function and increases survival rates after the return of spontaneous circulation (ROSC). Mechanistically, they found that myocardial tissues with transplanted mitochondria exhibit increased mitochondrial complex activity, higher ATP levels, reduced cardiomyocyte apoptosis, and lower myocardial oxidative stress post-ROSC.
Strengths:
Previous studies have reported that mitochondrial transplantation can improve myocardial recovery after regional ischemia, but its potential for treating myocardial injury following cardiac arrest has not been tested yet. Therefore, the findings are somewhat novel. Remarkably, the increased survival in mitochondria treated group post-ROSC is very promising and highlights its translational potential.
Weaknesses:
The organization of the paper, along with the analysis and interpretation of the results, requires significant revision.
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Reviewer #2 (Public Review):
Summary:
The authors address an important question in cardiovascular science that is very topical. The use of exogenous mitochondrial transplantation is assessed after cardiac arrest to determine if these exogenous mitochondria can enhance cardiac function. Given the role of mitochondria in the energy expenditure of the heart, this is an important question to study.
Strengths:
The strength lies mainly in the hypothesis being addressed as it is highly relevant in the quest for more strategies to enhance cardiac function.
Weaknesses:
There is further refinement needed in experimental details and transparency. Also, additional experiments need to be performed such as the seahorse experiment for oxygen consumption. Improvements in the text and in figures are needed and these comments are directed to the authors in our recommendations to the authors.
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Reviewer #3 (Public Review):
In this manuscript titled "Transplantation of exogenous mitochondria mitigates myocardial dysfunction after cardiac arrest", Zhen Wang et al. report that exogenous mitochondrial transplantation can enhance myocardial function and survival rates. It limits mitochondrial morphology impairment, boosts complexes II and IV activity, and increases ATP levels. Additionally, mitochondrial therapy reduces oxidative stress, lessens myocardial injury, and improves PAMD after cardiopulmonary resuscitation. The results of this manuscript clearly demonstrate that mitochondrial transplantation can effectively improve PAMD after cardiopulmonary resuscitation, highlighting its significant scientific and clinical value. The findings shown in this manuscript are interesting to the readers. However, further experiments are needed to confirm this conclusion. In addition, the results should be rewritten to describe and discuss the relevant data in detail.
Major comments:
(1) Can isolated mitochondria be transported to cultured cardiomyocytes, such as H9C2 cells, in vitro?
(2) The description of results in the manuscript is too simple. It lacks detail on the rationale behind the experiments and the significance of the data.
(3) The authors demonstrate that mitochondrial transplantation reduces cardiomyocyte apoptosis. Therefore, Western blot analysis of apoptosis-related caspases could be provided for further confirmation.
(4) Do donor mitochondria fuse with recipient mitochondria? Relevant experiments and data should be provided to address this question.
(5) In Figure 5A, the histograms are not labeled with the specific experimental groups.
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Reviewer #1 (Public Review):
Drp1 supports mitochondrial fission (doi: 10.1038/s41586-019-1296-y). Viral sensing triggers mitochondrial fusion, leading to MAVS aggregation and improved type-1 IFN response. It was suggested that impairment of Drp1 upon phosphorylation by Tbk1 enhances mitochondrial fusion in virus-infected cells (doi.org/10.1016/j.molcel.2020.10.018). In this manuscript, Fang et al. describe an unexpected role of caspases activated upon Rift Valley fever virus (RVFV) infection in inactivating Drp1. They show that Drp1 is targeted by multiple caspases, including caspase-3, -6, -7 and -8. Indeed, cleavage of Drp1 leads to mitochondrial elongation, boosting the type-1 IFN response of infected cells. Finally, the authors establish the generalisability of the proposed mechanism in the context of cellular infections with H1N1, SeV, and HSV-1. Caspase-dependent and independent cell death processes provide important host defence mechanisms against obligatorily intracellular viral pathogens. This work suggests that caspases reinforce antiviral response involving also the mitochondria-type 1 IFN axis. As such, the manuscript is well written, and the proposal pertaining to caspase-mediated targeting of Drp1 may have implications beyond host-virus interaction studies. However, several loose ends remain, and these concerns need to be addressed to substantiate the mechanistic model.
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Reviewer #2 (Public Review):
In the present study, authors report the role of virus-induced apoptosis in positively regulating the innate immune response. Upon infection, host cell apoptosis is triggered as a defence mechanism against virus replication. Culmination of infected-cell death impairs replicative potential for viruses, hence attenuating virus propagation. Reports exist denoting the inhibitory effect of apoptosis upon innate immune signalling. Contrary to that, the findings of this manuscript underscore the possible role of apoptosis in enhancing innate immune signalling and effector response. Infection-induced activation of caspases (3, 6, 7, and 8) has been demonstrated to cleave DRP1 protein. DRP1, a positive regulator for mitochondrial fission, degradation leads to altered mitochondrial morphology (elongation).
Mitochondria, being a hub for innate immune signalling (via operation of RLR-MAVS-downstream effector molecule-axis), upon elongation as a result of DRP1 depletion, results in greater innate immune signal flux and interferon induction. Increased interferon induction thus acts to inhibit virus propagation, as demonstrated by the authors using cell-culture models.
Strengths:
(1) The findings presented by the authors have been validated by employing elaborate biochemical experimental approaches. The study entails extensive biochemical characterization of DRP1 residues targeted by activated caspases, in vitro assays validating caspase-mediated DRP1 cleavage & caspase-DRP1 interaction.
(2) This study possesses broad implications since the authors demonstrate the role of caspase-mediated DRP1 cleavage in promoting innate immunity in the context of infection by diverse viruses (both RNA and DNA viruses).
Weaknesses:
Although the authors undertook a thorough experimental approach attempting to validate their findings, all the experiments were performed using either cell-culture models for infection or in vitro biochemical assays (cleavage and protein-protein interaction). Additional experimentation using animal models (in vivo) will further help strengthen the biological significance of their findings under more physiological settings.
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Reviewer #3 (Public Review):
Summary:
The authors demonstrated that the NSs protein of RVFV triggers the activation of apoptotic caspases, which cleave the mitochondrial fission factor DRP1 resulting in mitochondrial elongation.
Strengths:
The manuscript provides an insightful investigation into a novel mechanism through which apoptotic caspases promote anti-viral immunity by regulating mitochondrial morphodynamics.
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Reviewer #1 (Public Review):
Summary:
The current manuscript uses electron spin resonance spectroscopy to understand how the dynamic behavior and conformational heterogeneity of the LPS transport system change during substrate transport and in response to the membrane, bound nucleotide (or transition state analog) and accessory subunits. The study builds on prior structural studies to expand our molecular understanding of this highly significant bacterial transport system.
Strengths
This series of well-designed and well-executed experiments provide new mechanistic insights into the dynamic behavior of the LPS transport system. Notable new insights provided by this study include its indication of the spatial organization of the LptC domain, which was poorly resolved in structures, and how the LptC domain modulates the dynamic behavior of the gate through which lipids access the binding site. In addition, a mass spectrometry approach designed to examine LPS binding at different stages in the nucleotide-dependent conformational cycle provides insight into the order of operations of LPS binding and transport.
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Reviewer #2 (Public Review):
Lipopolysaccharide (LPS) is a major component of the outer membrane of Gram-negative bacteria and plays a critical role in bacterial virulence. The LPS export mechanism is a potential target for new antibiotics. Inhibiting this process can render bacteria more susceptible to the host immune system or other antibacterial agents. Given the rise of antibiotic-resistant bacteria, novel targets are urgently needed. The seven LPS transport (Lpt) proteins, A-G, move LPS from the inner to the outer membrane. This study investigated the conformational changes in the LptB2FG-LptC complex using site-directed spin labeling (SDSL) electron paramagnetic resonance (EPR) spectroscopy, revealing how ATP binding and hydrolysis affect the LptF β-jellyroll domain and lateral gates. The findings highlight the role of LptC in regulating LPS entry, ensuring efficient and unidirectional transport across the periplasm.
The β-jellyrolls are not fully resolved in the vanadate-trapped structure of LptB2FG and LptB2FGC. Therefore, the current study provides valuable information on the functional dynamics of these periplasmic domains, their interactions, and their roles in the unidirectional transport of LPS. Additionally, the dynamic perspective of the lateral gates in LptFG in the presence and absence of LptC is another strength of this study. Moreover, at least in detergent samples, more comprehensive intermediates of the ATP turnover cycle are studied than in the available structures, providing crucial missing mechanistic details.
Other major strengths of the study include high-quality DEER/PELDOR distance measurements in both detergent and proteoliposomes, the latter providing valuable dynamics information in the lipid environment. The proteoliposome study is crucial since the previous structural study (Li, Orlando & Liao 2019) was done in rather small-diameter nanodiscs, which might affect the overall dynamics of the complex. It would have been beneficial if the investigators had reconstituted the complex in lipid nanodiscs with the same composition as proteoliposomes. The mixed lipid/detergent micelles provide an alternative. It seems the ATPase activity of the protein complex is much lower in detergent compared with lipid nanodiscs (Li, Orlando & Liao 2019). It is unclear how ATPase activity in proteoliposomes compares to that in detergent micelles.
Additionally, from previous structural studies and the mass spectrometry data presented here, LPS co-purifies and is already bound to the complex, thus the Apo state may represent the LPS-bound state without nucleotides.
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Reviewer #3 (Public Review):
Summary:
The manuscript by Dajka and co-workers reports the application of a biophysical approach to analyse the dynamics of the LptB2FG-C ABC transporter, involved in LPS transport across the cell envelope in Escherichia coli. LptB2FG-C belongs to a new class of ABC transporters (type VI) and is essential and conserved in several Gram-negative pathogens. Since LPS is the major component of the outer membrane of the Gram-negative cell and is responsible for the low permeability of this membrane to several antibiotics, a deep understanding of the mechanism and function of the LptB2FG-C transporter is crucial for the development of new drugs targeting Gram-negative pathogens.
Several structural studies have been published so far on the LptB2FG-C transporter, disclosing important aspects of the transport mechanism; nevertheless, lack of resolution of some regions of the individual proteins as well as the dynamic nature of the transport mechanism per se (e.g. the insertion and removal of the TM helix of LptC from the TMDs of the transporter during the LPS transport cycle) has greatly limited the understanding of the mechanism that couples ATP binding and hydrolysis with LPS transport. This knowledge gap could be filled by applying an approach that allows the analysis of dynamic processes. The DEER/PELDOR technique applied in this work fits well with this requirement.
Strengths:
In this study the authors provide some new pieces of information on the LptB2FG-C function and the role of LptC in the transporter using a technique that allowed them to appreciate missing intermediate conformations adopted by the proteins during the transport cycle.
The work is timely and well-conceived. The conclusions of the manuscript are supported by solid data and allow the authors to postulate a dynamic model for the mechanism of translocation of LPS across the inner membrane by the LptB2FGC complex.
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Reviewer #1 (Public Review):
In this study, the Authors used a stopped-flow method to investigate the kinetics of substrate translocation through the channel in hexameric ClpB, an ATP-dependent bacterial protein disaggregase. They engineered a series of polypeptides with the N-terminal RepA ClpB-targeting sequence followed by a variable number of folded titin domains. The Authors detected translocation of the substrate polypeptides by observing the enhancement of fluorescence from a probe located at the substrate's C-terminus. The total time of the substrates' translocation correlated with their lengths, which allowed the Authors to determine the number of residues translocated by ClpB per unit time.
Strengths:
This study confirms a previously proposed model of processive translocation of polypeptides through the channel in ClpB. The novelty of this work is in a clever design of a series of kinetic experiments with an engineered substrate that includes stably folded domains. This approach produced a quantitative description of the reaction rates and kinetic step sizes. Another valuable aspect is that the method can be used for other translocases from the AAA+ family to characterize their mechanism of substrate processing.
Weaknesses:
The main limitation of the study is in using a single non-physiological substrate of ClpB, which does not replicate physical properties of the aggregated cellular proteins and includes a non-physiological ClpB-targeting sequence. Another limitation is in the use of ATPgammaS to stimulate the substrate processing. It is not clear how relevant the results are to the ClpB function in living cells with ATP as the source of energy, a multitude of various aggregated substrates without targeting sequences that need ClpB's assistance, and in the presence of the co-chaperones.
Evidence that ATPgammaS without ATP can provide sufficient energy for substrate translocation and unfolding is missing in the paper because the rate of phosphate release from ATPgammaS has not been determined. Thus, it is not clear if the observed translocation is linked to an actual chemical energy input or is a result of a diffusion-driven ratchet mediated by a substrate-trapping ClpB conformation obtained in the presence of ATPgammaS.
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Reviewer #2 (Public Review):
Summary:
The current work by Banwait et al. reports a fluorescence-based single turnover method based on protein-induced fluorescence enhancement (PIFE) to show that ClpB is a processive motor. The paper is a crucial finding as there has been ambiguity on whether ClpB is a processive or non-processive motor. Optical tweezers-based single-molecule studies have shown that ClpB is a processive motor, whereas previous studies from the same group hypothesized it to be a non-processive motor. As co-chaperones are needed for the motor activity of the ClpB, to isolate the activity of ClpB, they have used a 1:1 ratio ATP and ATPgS, where the enzyme is active even in the absence of its co-chaperones, as previously observed. A sequential mixing stop-flow protocol was developed, and the unfolding and translocation of RepA-TitinX, X = 1,2,3 repeats was monitored by measuring the fluorescence intensity with time of Alexa F555 that was labelled at the C-terminal Cysteine. The observations were a lag time, followed by a gradual increase in fluorescence due to PIFE, and then a decrease in fluorescence plausibly due to the dissociation from the substrate allowing it to refold. The authors observed that the peak time depends on the substrate length, indicating the processive nature of ClpB. In addition, the lag and peak times depend on the pre-incubation time with ATPgS, indicating that the enzyme translocates on the substrates even with just ATPgS without the addition of ATP, which is plausible due to the slow hydrolysis of ATPgS. From the plot of substrate length vs peak time, the authors calculated the rate of unfolding and translocation to be ~0.1 aas-1 in the presence of ~1 mM ATPgS and increases to 1 aas-1 in the presence of 1:1 ATP and ATPgS. The authors have further performed experiments at 3:1 ATP and ATPgS concentrations and observed ~5 times increase in the translocation rates as expected due to faster hydrolysis of ATP by ClpB and reconfirming that processivity is majorly ATP driven. Further, the authors model their results to multiple sequential unfolding steps, determining the rate of unfolding and the number of amino acids unfolded during each step. Overall, the study uses a novel method to reconfirm the processive nature of ClpB.
Strengths:
(1) Previous studies on understanding the processivity of ClpB have primarily focused on unfolded or disordered proteins; this study paves new insights into our understanding of the processing of folded proteins by ClpB. They have cleverly used RepA as a recognition sequence to understand the unfolding of titin-I27 folded domains.<br /> (2) The method developed can be applied to many disaggregating enzymes and has broader significance.<br /> (3) The data from various experiments are consistent with each other, indicating the reproducibility of the data. For example, the rate of translocation in presence of ATPgS, ~0.1 aas-1 from the single mixing experiment and double mixing experiment are very similar.<br /> (4) The study convincingly shows that ClpB is a processive motor, which has long been debated, describing its activity in the presence of only ATPgS and a mixture of ATP and ATPgS.<br /> (5) The discussion part has been written in a way that describes many previous experiments from various groups supporting the processive nature of the enzyme and supports their current study.
Weaknesses:
(1) The authors model that the enzyme unfolds the protein sequentially around 60 aa each time through multiple steps and translocates rapidly. This contradicts our knowledge of protein unfolding, which is generally cooperative, particularly for titinI27, which is reported to unfold cooperatively or utmost through one intermediate during enzymatic unfolding by ClpX and ClpA.<br /> (2) It is also important to note that the unfolding of titinI27 from the N-terminus (as done in this study) has been reported to be very fast and cannot be the rate-limiting step as reported earlier(Olivares et al, PNAS, 2017). This contradicts the current model where unfolding is the rate-limiting step, and the translocation is assumed to be many orders faster than unfolding.<br /> (3) The model assumes the same time constant for all the unfolding steps irrespective of the secondary structural interactions.<br /> (4) Unlike other single-molecule optical tweezer-based assays, the study cannot distinguish the unfolding and translocation events and assumes that unfolding is the rate-limiting step.
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Reviewer #3 (Public Review):
Summary:
The authors have devised an elegant stopped flow fluorescence approach to probe the mechanism of action of the Hsp100 protein unfoldase ClpB on an unfolded substrate (RepA) coupled to 1-3 repeats of a folded titin domain. They provide useful new insight into the kinetics of ClpB action. The results support their conclusions for the model setup used.
Strengths:
The stopped flow fluorescence method with a variable delay after mixing the reactants is informative, as is the use of variable numbers of folded domains to probe the unfolding steps.
Weaknesses:
The setup does not reflect the physiological setting for ClpB action. A mixture of ATP and ATPgammaS is used to activate ClpB without the need for its co-chaperones, Hsp70. Hsp40 and an Hsp70 nucleotide exchange factor. This nucleotide strategy was discovered by Doyle et al (2007) but the mechanism of action is not fully understood. Other authors have used different approaches. As mentioned by the authors, Weibezahn et al used a construct coupled to the ClpA protease to demonstrate translocation. Avellaneda et al used a mutant (Y503D) in the coiled coil regulatory domain to bypass the Hsp70 system. These differences complicate comparisons of rates and step sizes with previous work. It is unclear which results, if any, reflect the in vivo action of ClpB on disassembly of aggregates.
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Reviewer #1 (Public Review):
Summary:
In this manuscript, the authors delineate the crucial role of the SIRT2-ACSS2 axis in ACSS2 degradation. They demonstrate that SIRT2 acts as an ACSS2 deacetylase specifically under nutrient stress conditions, notably during amino acid deficiency. The SIRT2-mediated deacetylation of ACSS2 at K271 consequently triggers its proteasomal degradation. Additionally, they illustrate that acetylation of ACSS2 at K271 enhances ACSS2 protein levels, thereby promoting De Novo lipogenesis.
Strengths:
The findings presented in this manuscript are clearly interesting.
Weaknesses:
Further support is required for the model put forward by the authors.
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Reviewer #2 (Public Review):
Summary:
Karim et al investigated the regulation of ACSS2 by SIRT2. The authors identified a previously undescribed acetylation that they then show is important for the regulation and stability of ACSS2 in cells. The authors show that ACSS2 ubiquitination and degradation by the proteasome is regulated by SIRT2-mediated deacetylation of ACSS2 and that stabilizing ACSS2 by blocking SIRT2 can alter lipid accumulation in adipocytes.
Strengths:
Identification of a novel acetylation site on ACSS2 that regulates its protein stability and that has consequences on its activity in adipocytes. Multiple standard approaches were used to manipulate the expression and function of SIRT2 and ACSS2 (i.e., overexpression, knockdown, inhibitors).
Weaknesses:
Throughout the manuscript, normalizing the data to 1 and then comparing the fold-change using a t-test is not the best statistical approach in that situation since every normalized value for control is 1 with zero standard deviation. The authors should consider an alternative statistical approach.
Though not necessary, using 13C-acetate or D3-acetate tracing would be better for understanding the impact of acetylation on the activity of ACSS2 and its impact on lipogenesis.
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Reviewer #3 (Public Review):
Summary:
Manuscript shows SIRT2 can regulate acetylation of ACSS2 at residue 271, acetylation of 271 protects ACSS2 from proteasomal degradation in a SIRT2-dependent manner. Lastly authors show that ACSS2 acetylation at K271 promotes lipid accumulation.
Strengths:
Author provide solid data showing ACSS2 acetylation can be regulated by targeting SIRT2 and that SIRT2 regulates ACSS2 ubiquitination. They identify K271 as a site of acetylation and show this is a site when mutated alters SIRT2-mediated ubiquitination.
Weaknesses:
However, data for this manuscript seems preliminary as nearly all data is performed in one cell line, some of the conclusions not well supported by data and overall role of ACSS2 K271 acetylation is not well characterized.
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Summary:
The authors want to determine the role of the sperm hook of the house mouse sperm in movement through the uterus. They use transgenic lines with fluorescent labels to sperm proteins, and they cross these males to C57BL/6 females in pathogen-free conditions. They use 2-photon microscopy on ex vivo uteri within 3 hours of mating and the appearance of a copulation plug. There are a total of 10 post-mating uteri that were imaged with 3 different males. They provide 10 supplementary movies that form the basis for some of the quantitative analysis in the main body figures. Their data suggest that the role of the sperm hook is to facilitate movement along the uterine wall.
Strengths:
Ex vivo live imaging of fluorescently labeled sperm with 2-photon microscopy is a powerful tool for studying the behavior of sperm.
Weaknesses:
The paper is descriptive and the data are correlations.
The authors cannot directly test their proposed function of the sperm hook in sliding and preventing backward slipping.
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Reviewer #1 (Public Review):
Summary:
This study investigated the co-option of IGF2BP2, an RNA binding protein by ZIKV proteins. Designed experiments evaluated if IFG2BP2 co-localized to sites of viral RNA replication, interacted with ZIKV proteins and how ZIKV infection changed the IGF2BP2 interactome.
Strengths:
The authors have used multiple interdisciplinary techniques to address several questions regarding the interaction of ZIKV proteins and IGF2BP2.
The findings could be exciting if concerns are addressed, specifically regarding how ZIKV infection alters the interactome of IGF2BP2.
Comments on thee revised version:
Following response to reviews, the authors have addressed a majority of the concerns with the exception of the western blots:
As requested in the previous review, the authors did quantify the western blot data for half of the blot in 2A, but did not quantify blots in D and E. Please quantify ALL blots. Also, the first two lanes of 2A. The same goes for 4A only infected is quantified, please quantify Mock as well. In the quantification of 4C, all lanes should be quantified, not only the NS5 from C. Also, unclear which lanes were quantified (H/PF/2013 or MR766)? Also, quantification needs to be generally shown as a graph and not included on top of the western blot.
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Reviewer #2 (Public Review):
Clément Mazeaud et al. identified the insulin-like growth factor 2 mRNA-binding protein 2 (IGF2BP2) as a proviral cellular protein that regulates Zika virus (ZIKV) RNA replication by modulating the biogenesis of virus-induced replication organelles. Based on their findings and previously published data, the authors propose a model outlining the role of IGF2BP2 in the ZIKV infectious cycle. This model details the changes in IGF2BP2 interactions with both cellular and viral proteins and RNAs during viral infection.
Strengths:
This revised manuscript presents an interesting and convincing mechanism by which a cellular RNA-binding protein alters its protein and RNA interactome during viral infection. Using various molecular biology methods, proteomic analysis and a newly described replication-independent vesicle packets induction system, the authors describe the relevance of IGF2BP2 protein during Zika virus infection.
Weaknesses:
In the proposed model, the IGF2BP2 protein specifically binds to the 3' nontranslated region (NTR) of the ZIKV genome, while excluding binding to the 5' NTR. However, the authors cannot rule out the possibility that this host protein associates with other regions of the viral genome, a topic which is discussed in the manuscript.
In this study, the physiological cellular consequences of altering the interaction of IGF2BP2 with its endogenous mRNA ligands due to ZIKV infection remain unexplored. This aspect would be of interest for future studies.
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Reviewer #3 (Public Review):
Summary:
The manuscript by Mazeaud and colleagues pursued a small scale screen of a targeted RNAi library to identify novel players involved in Zika (ZIKV) and dengue (DENV) virus replication. Loss-of-function of IGF2BP2 resulted in reduced titers for ZIKV of the Asian and African lineages in hepatic Huh7.5 cells, but not for either of the four DENV serotypes nor for West Nile virus (WNV). The phenotype was further confirmed in two additional cell lines and using a ZIKV reporter virus. In addition, using immunoprecipitation assays the interaction between IGF2BP2 and ZIKV NS5 protein and RNA genome was detected. The work addressed the role of IGF2BP2 in the infected cell combining confocal microscopy imaging, and proteomic analysis. The approach indicated an altered distribution of IGF2BP2 in infected cells and changes in the protein interactome including disrupted association with partner mRNAs and modulation of the abundance of a specific set of protein partners in IGF2BP2 immunoprecipitated ribonucleoprotein (RNP) complexes. Finally, based on the changes in IGF2BP2 interactome and specifically the increment in the abundance of Atlastin 2, biogenesis of ZIKV replication organelles (vRO) is investigated using a genetic system that allows virus replication-independent assembly of vRO. Electron microscopy showed that knock down of IGF2BP2 expression reduced the number of cells with vRO.
Strengths:
The role of IGF2BP2 as a proviral factor for ZIKV replication is novel
The study follows a logical flow of experiments that altogether support the assembly of a specialized RNP complex containing IGF2BP2 and ZIKV NS5 and RNA genome
Weaknesses:
The specificity for the direct interaction between IGF2BP2 and ZIKV RNA genome remains elusive in particular regarding the regions in the virus genome that drive interaction.
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Summary:
This study presents an immunotherapeutic strategy for treating mouse cutaneous squamous cell carcinoma (mCSCC) using a passive immunity-like strategy. The researcher induced tumors in healthy mice skin, then isolated the tumor cells and injected into other healthy mice to produce anti-tumor antibodies, and then administered these antibodies back into tumor-bearing mice. Results showed a reduction in tumor volume and altered expression of several cancer markers (p53, Bcl-xL, NF-κB, Bax). The analysis of results suggests a promising impact of antibody-rich serum in treating mouse cutaneous squamous cell carcinoma (mCSCC).
Strengths:
The approach does seem to have effect on preventing tumor progression, from both the tumor size and the cancer hallmarks expression level.
Weaknesses:
Despite the strength of the study, there are a few drawbacks in the study design and statistical analysis:
(1) Regarding the statistical analysis, the use of a paired t-test might be suboptimal for assessing the trend from weeks 15 to 17. It is recommended to consider alternative methods such as repeated measures ANOVA or linear regression to better capture and interpret the trend over this time period.
(2) To affirm the antibodies' role in the observed immune response, isolating antibodies rather than employing whole serum could provide more conclusive evidence. Comparative analyses with antibody-free serum or serum from healthy, non-immunized mice would clarify antibodies' specific contributions versus other serum components. The control group does not account for the potential immunostimulatory effects of serum injection itself. A better control would be tumor-bearing mice receiving serum from healthy non-mCSCC-exposed mice.
Response to author's rebuttal:
I acknowledge the value of evaluating serum therapy as a whole, considering the complex interactive networks and potential synergies involved. However, to scientifically understand and assess serum therapy, it remains essential to decompose the serum and identify the effective components. This decomposition would allow for a comparison of individual components with the overall effectiveness, thereby elucidating any synergistic effects.<br /> While I agree that identifying specific epitopes and paratopes is indeed challenging and may exceed the scope of academic research, the use of methods such as Protein A purification or other techniques to isolate antibodies and cytokines from the serum is both necessary and feasible. This approach would enable a more detailed analysis of the individual effects of these components. I understand that the authors might not have that much resource, and I acknowledge this limitation. Nonetheless, other than this aspect, I believe the authors have adequately addressed my other concerns.
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Reviewer #1 (Public Review):
In this study, Le Moigne and coworkers shed light on the structural details of the Sedoheptulose-1,7-Bisphosphatase (SBPase) from the green algae Chlamydomonas reinhardtii. The SBPase is part of the Calvin cycle and catalyzes the dephosphorylation of sedoheptulose-1,7-bisphosphate (SBP), which is a crucial step in the regeneration of ribulose-1,5-bisphosphate (RuBP), the substrate for Rubisco. The authors determine the crystal structure of the CrSBPase in an untreated, oxidized state. Based on this structure, potential active site residues and sites of post-translational modifications are identified. Furthermore, the authors determine the CrSBPase structure in a reduced state revealing the disruption of a disulfide bond in close proximity to the dimer interface. The authors then use molecular dynamics (MD) to gain insights into the redox-controlled dynamics of the CrSBPase and investigate the oligomerization of the protein using small-angle X-ray scattering (SAXS) and size-exclusion chromatography. Despite the difference in oligomerization, disruption of this disulfide bond did not impact the activity of CrSBPase, suggesting additional thiol-dependent regulatory mechanisms modulating the activity of the CrSBPase.
The authors provide interesting new findings on a redox-mechanism that modulates the oligomeric behavior of the SBPase. Comparisons of the Chlamydomonas structure to the previously determined SBPase structure from the moss Physcomitrium patens confirm a high structural similarity between the two proteins suggesting that this mechanism might be evolutionary conserved. Future research will have to address this question experimentally, also considering potential cooperativity between the subunits to confirm the link between oligomerization and SBPase activity.
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Reviewer #2 (Public Review):
The central theme of the manuscript is to report on the structure of SBPase - an enzyme central to the photosynthetic Calvin-Benson-Bassham cycle. The authors claim that the structure is the first of its kind from a chlorophyte Chlamydomonas reinhardtii, a model unicellular green microalga. The authors use a number of methods like protein expression, purification, enzymatic assays, SAXS, molecular dynamics simulations and x-ray crystallography to resolve a 3.09 A crystal structure of the oxidized and partially reduced state. The results are supported by the claims made in the manuscript. While the structure is the first from a chlorophyte, it is not unique. Several structures of SBPase are available and a comparison has been made between the structure reported here and others that have been previously published.
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Summary:
Mao and colleagues re-analysed published spatial, bulk and single-cell transcriptomic datasets from primary colorectal cancers and colorectal cancer derived liver metastases. The analyses of paired cancer and non-cancer tissue samples showed that T cells are enriched in tumour tissue, accompanied by a reduction in the fraction of NK cells in the cancer tissue transcriptional datasets. Furthermore, the authors show that tumour tissue has higher fraction of GZMK+ (resting) NK cells and suggested a correlation between the presence of these cells and poor prognosis for cancer patients. In contrast, the increased frequency of KIR2DL4+ (activated) NK cells correlates with improved survival of cancer patients.
Strengths:
Authors performed a comprehensive analysis of published datasets, integrating spatial and single-cell transcriptomic data, which allowed them to discover enrichment of GZMK+ NK cells in cancer tissues.
Weakness:
The authors provided insufficient experimental evidence to support their claim that GZMK+ NK cells contribute to worse prognosis for cancer patients or promote cancer progression. While one can visually observe an increased fraction of GZMK+ NK cells compared to KIR2DL4+ NK cells in cancer tissues, no quantification is shown. They did not present any preclinical (animal model) or clinical data suggesting a causal relationship between NK cells and tumour growth. Thus, while a correlation may exist between the presence of GZMK+ NK cells and poorer tumour prognosis, causation cannot be claimed based on the available evidence. Furthermore, the in vitro data provided is limited to a single NK cell line derived from a lymphoma patient, which does not fully represent the diversity and functionality of human NK cells.
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Reviewer #2 (Public Review):
Summary:
This manuscript investigates the role of the abundant NK cells that are observed in colon cancer liver metastasis using sequencing and spatial approaches in an effort to clarify the pro and anti-tumourogenic properties of NK cells. This descriptive study characterizes different categories of NK cells in tumor and tumor adjacent tissues and some correlations. An attempt has been made using pseudotime trajectory analysis but no models around how these NK cells might be regulated is provided.
Strengths:
This study integrates multiomics data to attempt to resolve correlates of protection that might be useful in understanding NK cell diversity and activation. The authors have strengthened the study in revision by demonstrating the very strong correlation between Granzyme+ NK cells and the poor prognosis, but the main claims are only partially supported.
Weaknesses:
While this work is interesting, the power of such studies are in taking the discovered information and applying this to other cohorts to determine the strength and predictive power of the genes identified. It is also clear that these 'snapshots' analysed poorly take account of the dynamic temporal changes that occur within a tumour. It would have been good to see a proposed model of NK cell regulation as it might occur in the tumour (accounting for turnover and recruitment) beyond the static data. Further evidence linking mechanistic causality to prognostic outcome would provide significant data for approaches forward.
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Reviewer #1 (Public Review):
In the manuscript "Mechanistic target of rapamycin (mTOR) pathway in Sertoli cells regulates age-dependent changes in sperm DNA methylation", the authors proposed to test if the balance of mTOR complexes in Sertoli cells may play a significant role in age-dependent changes in the sperm epigenome. The paper could be of interest and has a good scientific aim but there are too many drawbacks that hamper the initial enthusiasm. All sections need extensive revision. The paper is mostly descriptive without a mechanistic-orientated explanation for the observed results.
Comments on revised version:
I am not sure that the authors have made an attempt to clearly answer the reviewers comments that aimed to improve the quality of the manuscript. It stands as mostly descriptive and with limited interest as it is.
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Reviewer #3 (Public Review):
Summary and Strength:
The manuscript by Amir et al. describes that Sertoli-specific inactivation of the mTORC1 and mTORC2 complex by KO of either Raptor or Rictor, respectively, resulted in progressive changes in blood-testis-barrier (BTB) function, testis weight, and sperm parameters, including counts, morphology, mtDNA content and sperm DNA methylation.
The described studies are based on the hypothesis that a decline of BTB function with increasing chronological age of a male contributes to the DNA methylation changes that are known to occur in sperm DNA of old males when compared to sperm DNA from isogenic young males. In order to demonstrate the relevance of a functioning BTB for the maintenance of sperm methylation patterns, the authors generated mice with genetically disrupted mTORC2 complex or mTORC1 complex in Sertoli cells and determined sperm methylation patterns in comparison to isogenic wild-type males. In line with previously published scientific literature (e.g. Mok et al., 2013; Dong et al, 2015; and others), the manuscript corroborates that a Sertoli-cell specific deletion of mTORC2 caused a loss of BTB function and a progressive spermatogenic defect. The authors further show that sperm DNA is differentially methylated (DMRs) as a consequence of either a mTORC2 disruption (associated with a loss of BTB function) or following a mTORC1 disruption (BTB function either increased or not leaky) when compared to their isogenic age-matched wt controls. Those DMRs overlap partially with changes in sperm DNA methylation that were found when comparing sperm from 8-week males with sperm isolated from 22-week-old male mice.
The authors interpret the observed changes as representative of the sperm DNA methylation changes that occur during normal chronological aging of the male. For an aged control group, the authors use sperm DNA of 22-week-old wild-type mates from the mTORC2 and mTORC2 KO breeding and compare the sperm methylation patterns found in sperm from those 22-week males to 8-week young males, that are intended to represent an old and a young cohort, respectively. DNA methylation analysis indicates that a disruption of mTORC2 (& decrease of BTB function) results in increased DNA methylation of sperm DNA, while a disruption of mTORC1 (and proposed increase of BTB tightness, not shown in the manuscript, though) resulted in increased hypomethylation.
Weaknesses:
While the hypothesis and experimental system are interesting and the data demonstrating the relevance of the mTORC2 complex for BTB function is convincing, several open questions limit the evidence that supports the hypothesis that the sperm DNA methylation changes seen in old males are caused by BTB failure following an imbalance of mTOR signaling complexes. The major critique points are the lack of a chronologically old group and the choice of 8 weeks & 22 weeks age of age:
- Data illustrating the degree of BTB decline and sperm DNA methylation changes from chronologically "old" male mice is missing. 22-week-old mice are not considered old but are of good and mature breeding age, equivalent to humans in their mid-late twenties. (In the manuscript, the 22-week-old wildtype mice show no evidence of BTB breakdown (Figure 3), so why are their sperm used to represent "aged" sperm?
- Adding a group of "old" wild-type mice of 12-14 months of age, which is closer to the end of effective reproduction in mice, more equivalent to 45-59 year-old humans) could be used to illustrate that (a) aging causes a marked decrease in BTB function at this time in mouse life, and that this BTB breakdown chronologically aligns with the age-associated DNA hypermethylation seen in old sperm. Age-matched "old" mTORC1 KO, with a (supposedly) tighter BTB barrier, could then be expected to have a sperm DMA methylation profile closer to that of younger wild-type animals. Such data are currently missing. While the progressive testicular decline observed in the mTORC1 KO (Fig.5) could make it difficult to obtain the appropriately aged mTORC1 KO tissues, it is completely feasible to obtain data from chronologically old wild-type males. (The progressive testicular decline further raises the question of what additional defects the KO causes, and how such additional defects would influence the sperm DNA methylation profile.) The addition of data from an old group to the currently included groups could strengthen the interpretation that the observations in the BTB-defective mTORC2 KO mice are modelling an age-related testicular decline, provided that the DMRs seen in the chronologically old group significantly overlap with the BTB-defective changes.
- In the current form, the described differences in sperm DNA methylation are based on comparisons between pubertal mice (8 weeks) and mature but not old adult males (22 weeks), while a chronologically "old" group is missing from the data sets and comparisons. Thus, it appears that the described sperm methylation changes reflect developmental changes associated with normal maturation and not necessarily declining sperm quality due to aging. (Sperm obtained from 8-week-old mice likely were generated, at least in part, during the 1st wave of spermatogenesis, which is known to differ from the continuously proceeding spermatogenesis during the remained of the mature life. During the 1st wave of spermatogenesis, Sertoli cells are known to undergo gene expression changes which could contribute to varying degrees of BTB function, and thus have effects on the sperm DNA methylation profiles of such 1st wave sperm.)
- It is unclear why the aging-related DMRs between the 8 and 22-week-old wild-type mice vary so dramatically between the two wild-type groups derived from the mTORC1 and the mTORC2 breeding (Fig. S4). If the main difference was due to mTORC1 or mTORC2 activity, both wildtype groups should behave very similarly. Changes seen in a truly "old" mouse (e.g. 20 weeks to 56 weeks), changes in "young mTORC1" and in "old mTORC2" are missing. How do those numbers and profiles compare to the shown samples?
Comments on latest version:
The rebuttal letter and public response indicate the authors' reluctance to consider the limitations of their study, i.e. having chosen chronologically young animals to demonstrate a sperm aging effect and indicate that they are not willing to include adequate controls.
Since there is no evidence that mice at this young age have a deteriorating blood-testis-barrier (indeed, normal intact BTB is clearly visible in the figures included in this study from animals of the relevant age group), the whole central hypothesis that the study is built upon (i.e. that increasing age causes deteriorating BTB integrity which in turn causes age-related changes in sperm DNA methylation), appears irrelevant or invalid.
The authors' claim that age-related DNA methylation changes in sperm occur in linear fashion and that the changes are somewhat proportional with chronological age is in stark contrast of the claim that a decline of the BTB in old animals is causative for age-related sperm epigenetic changes, putting the relevance of the whole study in question.
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Summary:
A key challenge at the second chemical step of splicing is the identification of the 3' splice site of an intron. This requires recruitment of factors dedicated to the second chemical step of splicing and exclusion of factors dedicated to the first chemical step of splicing. Through the highest resolution cyroEM structure of the spliceosome to-date, the authors show the binding site for Fyv6, a factor dedicated to the second chemical step of splicing, is mutually exclusive with the binding site for a distinct factor dedicated to the first chemical step of splicing, highlighting that splicing factors bind to the spliceosome at a specific stage not only by recognizing features specific to that stage but also by competing with factors that bind at other stages. The authors further reveal that Fyv6 functions at the second chemical step to promote selection of 3' splice sites distal to a branch point and thereby discriminate against proximal, suboptimal 3' splice site. Lastly, the authors show by cyroEM that Fyv6 physically interacts with the RNA helicase Prp22 and by genetics Fyv6 functionally interacts with this factor, implicating Fyv6 in 3'SS proofreading and mRNA release from the spliceosome. The evidence for this study is robust, with the inclusion of genomics, reporter assays, genetics, and cyroEM. Further, the data overall justify the conclusions, which will be of broad interest.
Strengths:
(1) The resolution of the cryoEM structure of Fyv6-bound spliceosomes at the second chemical step of splicing is exceptional (2.3 Angstroms at the catalytic core; 3.0-3.7 Angstroms at the periphery), providing the best view of this spliceosomal intermediate in particular and the core of the spliceosome in general.<br /> (2) The authors observe by cryoEM three distinct states of this spliceosome, each distinguished from the next by progressive loss of protein factors and/or RNA residues. The authors appropriately refrain from overinterpreting these states as reflecting distinct states in the splicing cycle, as too many cyroEM studies are prone to do, and instead interpret these observations to suggest interdependencies of binding. For example, when Fyv6, Slu7, and Prp18 are not observed, neither are the first and second residues of the intron, which otherwise interact, suggesting an interdependence between 3' splice site docking on the 5' splice site and binding of these second step factors to the spliceosome.<br /> (3) Conclusions are supported from multiple angles.<br /> (4) The interaction between Fyv6 and Syf1, revealed by the cyroEM structure, was shown to account for the temperature-sensitive phenotypes of a fyv6 deletion, through a truncation analysis.<br /> (5) Splicing changes were observed in vivo both by indirect copper reporter assays and directly by RT-PCR.<br /> (6) Changes observed by RNA-seq are validated by RT-PCR.<br /> (7) The authors go beyond simply observing a general shift to proximal 3'SS usage in the fyv6 deletion by RNA-seq by experimentally varying branch point to 3' splice site distance experimentally in a reporter and demonstrating in a controlled system that Fyv6 promotes distal 3' splice sites.<br /> (8) The importance of the Fyv6-Syf1 interaction for 3'SS recognition is demonstrated by truncations of both Fyv6 and of Syf1.<br /> (9) In general, the study was executed thoroughly and presented clearly.
Weaknesses:
(1) Despite the authors restraint in interpreting the three states of the spliceosome observed by cyroEM as sequential intermediates along the splicing pathway, it would be helpful to the general reader to explicitly acknowledge the alternative possibility that the difference states simply reflect decomposition from one intermediate during isolation of the complex (i.e., the loss of protein is an in vitro artifact, if an informative one).<br /> (2) The authors acknowledge that for prp8 suppressors of the fyv6 deletion, suppression may be indirect, as originally proposed by the Query and Konarska labs - that is, that defects in the second step conformation of the spliceosome can be indirectly suppressed by compensating, destabilizing mutations in the first step spliceosome. Whereas some of the other suppressors of the fyv6 deletion can be interpreted as impacting directly the second step spliceosome (e.g., because the gene product is only present in the second step conformation), it seems that many more suppressors beyond prp8 mutants, especially those corresponding to bulky substitutions, which would more likely destabilize than stabilize, could similarly act indirectly by destabilization of first step conformation. The authors should acknowledge this where appropriate (e.g., for factors like Prp8 that are present in both first and second step conformations).
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Reviewer #2 (Public Review):
In this manuscript, Senn, Lipinski, and colleagues report on the structure and function of the conserved spliceosomal protein Fyv6. Pre-mRNA splicing is a critical gene expression step that occurs in two steps, branching and exon ligation. Fyv6 had been recently identified by the Hoskins' lab as a factor that aids exon ligation (Lipinski et al., 2023), yet the mechanistic basis for Fyv6 function was less clear. Here, the authors combine yeast genetics, transcriptomics, biochemical assays, and structural biology to reveal the function of Fyv6. Specifically, they describe that Fyv6 promotes the usage of distal 3'SSs by stabilizing a network of interactions that include the RNA helicase PRP22 and the spliceosome subunit SYF1. They discuss a generalizible mechanism for splice site proofreading by spliceosomsal RNA helicases that could be modulated by other, regulatory splicing factors.
This is a very high quality study, which expertly combines various approaches to provide new insights into the regulation of 3'SS choice, docking, and undocking. The cryo-EM data is also of excellent quality, which substantially extends on previous yeast P complex structures. This is also supported by the authors use of the latest data analysis tools (Relion-5, AlphaFold2 multimer predictions, Modelangelo). The authors re-evaluate published EM densities of yeast spliceosome complexes (B*, C,C*,P) for the presence or absence of Fyv6, substantiate Fyv6 as a 2nd step specific factor, confirm it as the homolog of the human protein FAM192A, and provide a model for how Fyv6 may fit into the splicing pathway. The biochemical experiments on probing the splicing effects of BP to 3'SS distances after Fyv6 KO, genetic experiments to probe Fyv6 and Syf1 domains, and the suppressor screening add substantially to the study and are well executed. The manuscript is clearly written and we particularly appreciated the nuanced discussions, for example for an alternative model by which Prp22 influences 3'SS undocking. The research findings will be of great interest to the pre-mRNA splicing community.
We have only few comments to improve an already strong manuscript.
Comments:
(1) Can the authors comment on how they justify K+ ion positions in their models (e.g. the K+ ion bridging G-1 and G+1 nucleotides)? How do they discriminate e.g. in the 'G-1 and G+1' case K+ from water?<br /> (2) The authors comment on Yju2 and Fyv6 assignments in all yeast structures except for the ILS. Can the authors comment on if they have also looked into the assignment of Yju2 in the yeast ILS structure in the same manner? While it is possible that Fyv6 could dissociate and Yju2 reassociate at the P to ILS transition, this would merit a closer look given that in the yeast P complex Yju2 had been misassigned previously.<br /> (3) For accessibility to a general reader, figures 1c, d, e, 2a, b, would benefit from additional headings or labels, to immediately convey what is being displayed. It is also not clear to us if Fig 1e might fit better in the supplement and be instead replaced by Supplementary Figure 1a (wt) , b (delta upf1), and a new c (delta fyv6) and new d (delta upf1, delta fyv6). This may allow the reader to better follow the rationale of the authors' use of the Fyv6/Upf1 double deletion.<br /> (4) The authors carefully interpret the various suppressor mutants, yet to a general reader the authors may wish to focus this section on only the most critical mutants for a better flow of the text.
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Reviewer #3 (Public Review):
In this manuscript the authors expand their initial identification of Fyv6 as a protein involved in the second step of pre-mRNA splicing to investigate the transcriptome-wide impact of Fyv6 on splicing and gain a deeper understanding of the mechanism of Fyv6 action.
They first use deep sequencing of transcripts in cells depleted of Fyv6 together with Upf1 (to limit loss of mis-spliced transcripts) to identify broad changes in the transcriptome due to loss of Fyv6. This includes both changes in overall gene expression, that are not deeply discussed, as well as alterations in choice of 3' splice sites - which is the focus of the rest of the manuscript
They next provide the highest resolution structure of the post-catalytic spliceosome to date; providing unparalleled insight into details of the active site and peripheral components that haven't been well characterized previously.
Using this structure they identify functionally critical interactions of Fyv6 with Syf1 but not Prp22, Prp8 and Slu7. Finally, a suppressor screen additionally provides extensive new information regarding functional interactions between these second step factors.
Overall this manuscript reports new and essential information regarding molecular interactions within the spliceosome that determine the use of the 3' splice site. It would be helpful, especially to the non-expert, to summarize these in a table, figure or schematic in the discussion.
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Summary:
This study sought to reveal the potential roles of m6A RNA methylation in gene dosage regulatory mechanisms, particularly in the context of aneuploid genomes in Drosophila. Specifically, this work looked at the relationships between the expression of m6A regulatory factors, RNA methylation status, classical and inverse dosage effects, and dosage compensation. Using RNA sequencing and m6A mapping experiments, an in-depth analysis was performed to reveal changes in m6A status and expression changes across multiple aneuploid Drosophila models. The authors propose that m6A methylation regulates MOF and, in turn, deposition of H4K16Ac, critical regulators of gene dosage in the context of genomic imbalance.
Strengths:
This study seeks to address an interesting question with respect to gene dosage regulation and the possible roles of m6A in that process. Previous work has linked m6A to X-inactivation in humans through the Xist lncRNA, and to the regulation of the Sxl in flies. This study seeks to broaden that understanding beyond these specific contexts to more broadly understand how m6A impacts imbalanced genomes in other contexts.
Weaknesses:
The methods being used particularly for analysis of m6A at both the bulk and transcript-specific level are not sufficiently specific or quantitative to be able to confidently draw the conclusions the authors seek to make. MeRIP m6A mapping experiments can be very valuable, but differential methylation is difficult to assess when changes are small (as they often are, in this study but also m6A studies more broadly). For instance, based on the data presented and the methods described, it is not clear that the statement that "expression levels at m6A sites in aneuploidies are significantly higher than that in wildtype" is supported. MeRIP experiments are not quantitative, and since there are far fewer peaks in aneuploidies, it stands to reason that more antibody binding sites may be available to enrich those fewer peaks to a larger extent. But based on the data as presented (figure 2D) this conclusion was drawn from RPKM in IP samples, which may not fully account for changing transcript abundances in absolute (expression level changes) and relative (proportion of transcripts in input RNA sample) terms.
The bulk-level m6A measurements as performed here also cannot effectively support these conclusions, as they are measured in total RNA. The focus of the work is mRNA m6A regulators, but m6A levels measured from total RNA samples will not reflect mRNA m6A levels as there are other abundance RNAs that contain m6A (including rRNA). As a result, conclusions about mRNA m6A levels from these measurements are not supported.
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Summary:
The authors have tested the effects of partial- or whole-chromosome aneuploidy on the m6A RNA modification in Drosophila. The data reveal that overall m6A levels trend up but that the number of sites found by meRIP-seq trend down, which seems to suggest that aneuploidy causes a subset of sites to become hyper-methylated. Subsequent bioinformatic analysis of other published datasets establish correlations between the activity of the H4K16 acetyltransferase dosage compensation complex (DCC) and the expression of m6A components and m6A abundance, suggesting that DCC and m6A can act in a feedback loop on each other. Overall, this paper uses bioinformatic trends to generate a candidate model of feedback between DCC and m6A. It would be improved by functional studies that validate the effect in vivo.
Strengths:
• Thorough bioinformatic analysis of their data.
• Incorporation of other published datasets that enhance scope and rigor.
• Finds trends that suggest that a chromosome counting mechanism can control m6A, as fits with pub data that the Sxl mRNA is m6A modified in XX females and not XY males.
• Suggests this counting mechanism may be due to the effect of chromatin-dependent effects on the expression of m6A components.
Weaknesses:
• The linkage between H4K16 machinery and m6A is indirect and based on bioinformatic trends with little follow-up to test the mechanistic bases of these trends.
• The paper lacks sufficient in vivo validation of the effects of DCC alleles on m6A and vice versa. For example, Is the Ythdc1 genomic locus a direct target of the DCC component Msl-2 ? (see Figure 7).
• Quite a bit of technical detail is omitted from the main text, making it difficult for the reader to interpret outcomes.
(1) Please add the tissues to the labels in Figure 1D.
(2) In the main text, please provide detail on the source tissues used for meRIP; was it whole larvae? adult heads? Most published datasets are from S2 cells or adult heads and comparing m6A across tissues and developmental stages could introduce quite a bit of variability, even in wt samples. This issue seems to be what the authors discuss in lines 197-199.
(3) In the main text, please identify the technique used to measure "total m6A/A" in Fig 2A. I assume it is mass spec.
(4) Line 190-191: the text describes annotating m6A sites by "nearest gene" which is confusing. The sites are mapped in RNAs, so the authors must unambiguously know the identity of the gene/transcript, right?
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Summary:<br /> In this manuscript, the authors use gene functional analysis, pharmacology and live imaging to develop a proposed model of diverse G protein family signalling that takes place in the papillae during the ascidian Ciona larval adhesion to regulate the timing of initiation of the morphological changes of metamorphosis. Their experiments provide solid evidence that antagonistic G protein signalling regulates cAMP levels in the papillae, which provides a threshold for triggering metamorphosis that is reflective of a larva keeping a strong and sustained level of contact with a substrate for a minimum period of approximately half an hour. The authors discuss their reasoning and address different specific aspects of their proposed timing mechanism to provide a logical flow to the manuscript. The results are nicely linked to<br /> the ecology of Ciona larval settlement and will be of interest to developmental biologists, neurobiologists, molecular biologists, marine biologists as well as provide information relevant to antifouling and aquaculture sectors.
First, they knock down the G proteins Gaq and Gas to show that these genes are important for Ciona larval metamorphosis. They then provide evidence that the Gaq protein acts through a Ca2+ pathway mediated by phospholipase C and inositol triphosphate by showing that inositol phosphate and phospholipase C gene knockdown also inhibits metamorphosis, while overexpression of Gaq or phospholipase C allows larvae to undergo metamorphosis even in the absence of their mechanosensory cue, which is deprived by removing the posterior half of the tail and culturing the larvae on agar-coated dishes. The authors used calcium imaging which is a genetically encoded fluorescent calcium sensor to show that Gq knockdown larvae lack a Ca2+ spike in their papillae after mechanostimulation, confirming that Gaq acts through a Ca2+ pathway. Similarly the authors show that overexpression of Gas also enables larvae to metamorphose in the absence of mechanostimulation, suggesting a role for both Gaq and Gas in this process.
To confirm that Gas acts through cAMP signalling, the authors use pharmacological treatment or overexpression of a photoactivating adenylate cyclase to increase cAMP, and show that this also enables larvae to metamorphose in the absence of mechanostimulation, but only<br /> when their adhesive papillae are still present. Transcriptome data indicate that both Gs and Gq pathway genes are expressed in the adhesive papillae of the Ciona larva. One missing detail seems to be the need for evidence that cAMP is elevated in the papillae directly as a result of Gs activation. The authors use a fluorescent cAMP indicator, Pink Flamindo, to show that cAMP increases in the papillae upon adhesion to a substrate. Complementary to this, larvae that fail to undergo metamorphosis lack a cAMP increase in papillae. However, it is unclear whether the measured larvae that failed to undergo metamorphosis were wildtype or Gas knockdown larvae. If they were Gas knockdown larvae, this could provide evidence that cAMP does act downstream of the Gas activation.
The authors then provide evidence that GABA signalling within the papillae is acting downstream of the G proteins to induce metamorphosis. Transcriptome data shows that the genes for the GABA-producing enzyme, and for GABAb receptors, are both expressed in papillae. Pharmacological experiments show that GABA induces metamorphosis in the absence of mechanosensory cues, but only in larvae that retain their papillae. To show that GABA signalling within the papillae, rather than from the brain of the larva is important, the authors also demonstrate that anterior segments of larvae lacking the brain can also be stimulated to metamorphose by GABA, and show changes in gene expression caused by GABA.
The authors then use a combination of pharmacology and knockdown experiments in the presence or absence of mechanosensory cues to show that Gq/Ca2+ signalling acts upstream of Gs/cAMP signalling. As the elevation of cAMP by pharmacology or photoactivating adenylate cyclase rescued GABA pathway mutant larvae, the Gq and Gs pathways were concluded to be downstream of GABA signaling. However, GABA treatment could still induce Gaq- and Gas-knockdown larvae to metamorphose, suggesting an alternative pathway to metamorphosis, which the authors deduce to be through a third G protein, Gai. They identify an unusual Gai protein that based on transcriptome data is strongly expressed in the papillae. Gai knockdown larvae fail to metamorphose but are rescued by GABA treatment, which can be explained by a potential additional Gai protein being still present (transcriptome evidence suggests this although it is not further confirmed experimentally, for example by hybridization, immunohistochemistry, fluorescent labelling, or knockdown). The authors then use overexpression and knockdown experiments to show that the Gai protein acts through Gβγi complex to activate phospholipase C. Their experiments also indicate a potential for a complementary or compensatory role for Gai and Gaq signalling through Gβγi. By inhibiting the potassium channel GIRK through knockdown, and the MAPK pathway gene MEK1/2 by pharmacology, the authors also establish a role for these in their proposed model of signalling, allowing GABA and cAMP to compensate or interact with each other.
Strengths:<br /> The strength of this paper is the meticulous and extensive experiments, which are carefully designed to be able to precisely target specific genes in the putative signalling pathway to build step by step a complex model that can demonstrate how metamorphosis of the ascidian larva is timed so as to only undergo metamorphosis when strongly attached to a<br /> suitable substrate. The unique possibility of inhibiting mechanosensory-induced metamorphosis by removing some of the tail and smoothing the attachment substrate allows the authors to investigate potential effects on both activation and inhibition of metamorphosis, and to confirm that specific signalling pathways are clearly downstream of the initial<br /> mechanosensory stimulation. The study is also clear about which aspects of the model still remain unknown, such as which ligands and receptors may be responsible for the binding and activation of Gaq and Gas. Experiments testing metamorphosis of just the anterior region of the larvae nicely demonstrates the need for signalling in the region of the papillae, as do experiments where the papillae are removed, which then block metamorphosis in treatments that would otherwise stimulate it. The final model is a nice end point and makes a clear summary of how the extensive experiments all fit together into a cohesive potential signalling network, which can be built upon in the future.
Weaknesses:<br /> The paper has few weaknesses, however the main difficulty it poses is that due to the sheer number of precise experiments carried out and the complexity of the interwoven signalling pathways, it quickly becomes very difficult to follow exactly what is going on when and why or to keep track of the story as it develops. To improve this, an initial section in the results could be included showing a summary of the known G proteins in Ciona, their types and potential downstream signalling or upstream receptors, where known, and their expression levels in papillae. This could be in the form of a table and/or include the phylogenetic tree from the supplementary data. This would help clarify why the study first focuses on Gaq and Gas, and only later looks at Gai. This could be supplemented by a schematic workflow giving an overview of the experimental process of the study. A second minor weakness (understandable as the focus of the study is metamorphosis induced by mechanosensory stimulation) is that the study does not take into account any potential role for other types of sensory modalities (light, chemicals) that may also feed into the regulation of Ciona larval metamorphosis. This aspect would be interesting to discuss in light of the recent paper suggesting that some sensory cells in the Ciona adhesive papillae are polymodal and detect both chemicals and mechanical stimuli (Hoyer et al. 2024 Current Biology 34(6): 1168 - 1182).
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Reviewer #2 (Public Review):
Summary:<br /> This work aims to characterize the neural signaling cascade underlying the initiation of metamorphosis in Ciona larvae. Combining gene-specific functional analyses, pharmacological experiments, and live imaging approaches, the authors identify the molecular players downstream of GABA to initiate Ciona metamorphosis. The results of this study may serve as a useful framework for future research on animal metamorphosis.
Strengths:<br /> The authors did a great job in connecting their experiments with previous findings on Ciona metamorphosis. Taking advantage of the Ciona model system, they meticulously conducted genetic manipulation and pharmacological experiments to test the epistatic relationships among the signaling players controlling the initiation of Ciona metamorphosis.
Weaknesses:<br /> The causal relationship between cAMP accumulation and the initiation of metamorphosis was not clearly demonstrated by the life-imaging observation with the fluorescent cAMP indicator (Pink Flamindo). It is a pity that this experiment was only conducted using normal larvae to compare those who underwent metamorphosis versus those who failed to initiate metamorphosis. This approach should be applied to some of the genetic manipulation and pharmacological experiments, to strengthen their main thesis on the "cAMP timer" mechanism.<br /> On several occasions, the interpretation of the results seems to be imprecise and may lead to misunderstanding. This should be improved by rewriting the descriptions of those results and carefully comparing the differences in results from various treatments and experiments.
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Summary:
The fungal cell wall is a very important structure for the physiology of a fungus but also for the interaction of pathogenic fungi with the host. Although a lot of knowledge on the fungal cell wall has been gained, there is a lack of understanding of the meaning of ß-1,6-glucan in the cell wall. In the current manuscript, the authors studied in particular this carbohydrate in the important human-pathogenic fungus Candida albicans. The authors provide a comprehensive characterization of cell wall constituents under different environmental and physiological conditions, in particular of ß-1,6-glucan. Also, β-1,6-glucan biosynthesis was found to be likely a compensatory reaction when mannan elongation was defective. The absence of β-1,6-glucan resulted in a significantly sick growth phenotype and complete cell wall reorganization. The manuscript contains a detailed analysis of the genetic and biochemical basis of ß-1,6-glucan biosynthesis which is apparently in many aspects similar to yeast. Finally, the authors provide some initial studies on the immune modulatory effects of ß-1,6-glucan.
Strengths:
The findings are very well documented, and the data are clear and obtained by sophisticated biochemical methods. It is impressive that the authors successfully optimized methods for the analyses and quantification of ß-1-6-glucan under different environmental conditions and in different mutant strains.
Weaknesses:
However, although already very interesting, at this stage there are some loose ends that need to be combined to strengthen the manuscript. For example, the immunological studies are rather preliminary and need at least some substantiation. Also, at this stage, the manuscript in some places remains a bit too descriptive and needs the elucidation of potential causalities.
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Summary:
The authors provide the first (to my knowledge) detailed characterization of cell wall b-1,6 glucan in the pathogen Candida albicans. The approaches range from biochemistry to genetics to immunology. The study provides fundamental information and will be a resource of exceptional value to the field going forward. Highlights include the construction of a mutant that lacks all b-1,6 glucan and the characterization of its cell wall composition and structure. Figure 5a is a feast for the eyes, showing that b-1,6 glucan is vital for the outer fibrillar layer of the cell wall. Also much appreciated was the summary figure, Figure 7, which presents the main findings in digestible form.
Strengths:
The work is highly significant for the fungal pathogen field especially, and more broadly for anyone studying fungi, antifungal drugs, or antifungal immune responses.
The manuscript is very readable, which is important because most readers will be cell wall nonspecialists.
The authors construct a key quadruple mutant, which is not trivial even with CRISPR methods, and validate it with a complemented strain. This aspect of the study sets the bar high.
The authors develop new and transferable methods for b-1,6 glucan analysis.
Weaknesses:
The one "famous" cell type that would have been interesting to include is the opaque cell. This could be included in a future paper.
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Summary:
The cell wall of human fungal pathogens, such as Candida albicans, is crucial for structural support and modulating the host immune response. Although extensively studied in yeasts and molds, the structural composition has largely focused on the structural glucan b,1,3-glucan and the surface exposed mannans, while the fibrillar component β-1,6-glucan, a significant component of the well wall, has been largely overlooked. This comprehensive biochemical and immunological study by a highly experienced cell wall group provides a strong case for the importance of β-1,6-glucan contributing critically to cell wall integrity, filamentous growth, and cell wall stability resulting from defects in mannan elongation. Additionally, β-1,6-glucan responds to environmental stimuli and stresses, playing a key role in wall remodeling and immune response modulation, making it a potential critical factor for host-pathogen interactions.
Strengths:
Overall, this study is well-designed and executed. It provides the first comprehensive assessment of β-1,6-glucan as a dynamic, albeit underappreciated, molecule. The role of β-1,6-glucan genetics and biochemistry has been explored in molds like Aspergillus fumigatus, but this work shines an important light on its role in Candida albicans. This is important work that is of value to Medical Mycology, since β-1,6-glucan plays more than just a structural role in the wall. It may serve as a PAMP and a potential modulator of host-pathogen interactions. In keeping with this important role, the manuscript rigor would benefit from a more physiological evaluation ex vivo and preferably in vivo, assessment on stimulating the immune system within in the cell wall and not just as a purified component. This is a critical outcome measure for this study and gets squarely at its importance for host-pathogen interactions, especially in response to environmental stimuli and drug exposure.
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Summary:<br /> In this study, Masroor Ahmad Paddar and his/her colleagues explore the noncanonical roles of ATG5 and membrane atg8ylation in regulating retromer assembly and function. They begin by examining the interactomes of ATG5 and expand the scope of these effects to include homeostatic responses to membrane stress and damage.
Strengths:<br /> This study provides novel insights into the noncanonical function of ATG8ylation in endosomal cargo sorting process.
Weaknesses:<br /> The direct mechanism by which ATG8ylation regulates the retromer remains unsolved.
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Summary: Padder et al. demonstrate that ATG5 mediates lysosomal repair via the recruitment of the retromer components during LLOMe-induced lysosomal damage and that mAtg8-ylation contributes to retromer-dependent cargo sorting of GLUT1. Although previous studies have suggested that during glucose withdrawal, classical autophagy contributes to retromer-dependent GLUT1 surface trafficking via interactions between LC3A and TBC1D5, the experiments here demonstrate that during basal conditions or lysosomal damage, ATGs that are not involved in mATG8ylation, such as FIP200, are not functionally required for retromer-dependent sorting of GLUT1. Overall, these studies suggest a unique role for ATG5 in the control of retromer function, and that conjugation of ATG8 to single membranes (CASM) is a partial contributor to these phenotypes.
Strengths:
(1) Overall, these studies suggest a unique non-autophagic role for ATG5 in the control of retromer function. They also demonstrate that conjugation of ATG8 to single membranes (CASM) is a partial contributor to these phenotypes. Overall, these data point to a new role for ATG5 and CASM-dependent mATG8ylation in lysosomal membrane repair and trafficking.
(2) Although the studies are overall supportive of the proposed model that the retromer is controlled by CASM-dependent mATG8-ylaytion, it is noteworthy that previous studies of GLUT1 trafficking during glucose withdrawal (Roy et al. Mol Cell, PMID: 28602638) were predominantly conducted in cells lacking ATG5 or ATG7, which would not be able to discriminate between a CASM-dependent vs. canonical autophagy-dependent pathway in the control of GLUT1 sorting. Is the lack of GLUT1 mis-sorting to lysosomes observed in FIP200 and ATG13KO cells also observed during glucose withdrawal? Notably, deficiencies in glycolysis and glucose-dependent growth have been reported in FIP200 deficient fibroblasts (Wei et al. G&D, PMID: 21764854) so there may be differences in regulation dependent on the stress imposed on a cell.
Weaknesses:
(1) Additional controls are needed to clarify the role of CASM in the control of retromer function. Because the manuscript proposes both CASM-dependent and independent pathways in the ATG5 mediated regulation of the retromer, it is important to provide robust evidence that CASM is required for retromer-dependent GLUT1 sorting to the plasma membrane vs. lysosome. The experiments with monsensin in Fig. 7C-E are consistent with but not unequivocally corroborative of a role for CASM. Based on the results shown with ATG16KO in Fig 4A-D, rescue experiments of these 16KO cells with WT vs. C-terminal WD40 mutant versions of ATG16 will specifically assess the requirement for CASM and potentially provide more rigorous support for the conclusions drawn.
(2) Also, the role of TBC1D5 should be further clarified. In Fig S7, are there any changes in the interactions between TBC1D5 and VPS35 in response to LLOMe or other agents utilized to induce CASM? Does TBC1D5 loss-of-function modulate the numbers of GLUT1 and Gal3 puncta observed in ATG5 deficient cells in response to LLOMe?
(3) Finally, the studies here are motivated by experiments in Fig. S1 (as well as other studies from the Deretic and Stallings labs) suggesting unique autophagy-independent functions for ATG5 in myeloid cells and neutrophils in susceptibility to Mycobacterium tuberculosis infection. However, it is curious that no attempt is made to relate the mechanistic data regarding the retromer or GLUT1 receptor mis-sorting back to the infectious models. Do myeloid cells or neutrophils lacking ATG5 have deficiencies in glucose uptake or GLUT1 cell surface levels?
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In this manuscript, Padder et al. used APEX2 proximity labeling to find an interaction between ATG5 and the core components of the Retromer complex, VPS26, VPS29, and VPS35. Further studies revealed that ATG5 KO inhibited the trafficking of GLUT1 to the plasma membrane. They also found that other autophagy genes involved in membrane atg8ylation affected GLUT1 sorting. However, knocking out other essential autophagy genes such as ATG13 and FIP200 did not affect GLUT1 sorting. These findings suggest that ATG5 participates in the function of the Retromer in a noncanonical autophagy manner. Overall, the methods and techniques employed by the authors largely support their conclusions. These findings are intriguing and significant, enriching our understanding of the non-autophagic functions of autophagy proteins and the sorting of GLUT1. Nevertheless, there are several issues that the authors need to address to further clarify their conclusions.
(1) The authors confirmed the interaction between Atg5 and the Retromer complex through Co-IP experiments. Is the interaction between Atg5 and the Retromer direct? If it is direct, which Retromer complex protein regulates the interaction with Atg5? Additionally, does ATG5 K130R mutant enhance its interaction with the Retromer?
(2) To more directly elucidate how ATG5 regulates Retromer function by interacting with the Retromer and participates in the trafficking of GLUT1 to the plasma membrane, the authors should identify which region or crucial amino acid residues of ATG5 regulate its interaction with the Retromer. Additionally, they should test whether mutations in ATG5 that disrupt its interaction with the Retromer affect Retromer function (such as participating in the trafficking of GLUT1 to the plasma membrane) and whether they affect Atg8ylation. They also need to assess whether these mutations influence canonical autophagy and lysosomal sensitivity to damage.
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By mapping H3K4me2 in mouse oocytes and pre-implantation embryos, the authors aim to elucidate how this histone modification is erased and re-established during the parental-to-zygotic transition, as well as how the reprogramming of H3K4me2 regulates gene expression and facilitates zygotic genome activation.
Employing an improved CUT&RUN approach, the authors successfully generated H3K4me2 profiling data from a limited number of embryos. While the profiling experiments are very well executed, several weaknesses, particularly in data analysis, are apparent:
(1) The study emphasizes H3K4me2, which often serves as a precursor to H3K4me3, a well-studied modification during early development. Analyzing the new H3K4me2 dataset alongside published H3K4me3 data is crucial for comprehensively understanding epigenetic reprogramming post-fertilization and the interplay between histone modifications. However, the current analysis is preliminary and lacks depth.
(2) Tranylcypromine (TCP) is known as an irreversible inhibitor of monoamine oxidase and LSD1. While the authors suggest TCP inhibits the expression of LSD2, this assertion is questionable. Given TCP's potential non-specific effects in cells, conclusions related to the experiments using TCP should be made with caution.
(3) Some batches of H3K4me2 antibody are known to cross-react with H3K4me3. Has the H3K4me2 antibody used in CUT&RUN been tested for such cross-reactivity? Heatmaps in the figures indeed show similar distribution for H3K4me2 and H3K4me3, further raising concerns about antibody specificity.
(4) Certain statements lack supporting references or figures (examples on page 9 can be found on line 245, line 254, and line 258).
(5) Extensive language editing is recommended to clarify ambiguous sentences. Additionally, caution should be taken to avoid overstatement - most analyses in this study only suggest correlation rather than causality.
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Chong Wang et al. investigated the role of H3K4me2 during the reprogramming processes in mouse preimplantation embryos. The authors show that H3K4me2 is erased from GV to MII oocytes and re-established in the late 2-cell stage by performing Cut & Run H3K4me2 and immunofluorescence staining. Erasure and re-establishment of H3K4me2 have not been studied well, and profiling of H3K4me2 in germ cells and preimplantation embryos is valuable to understanding the reprogramming process and epigenetic inheritance.
(1) The authors claim that the Cut & Run worked for MII oocytes, zygotes, and the 2-cell embryos. However, it is unclear if H3K4me2 is erased during the stage or if the Cut & Run did not work for these samples. To support the hypothesis of the erasure of H3K4me2, the authors conducted immunofluorescence staining, and H3k4me2 was undetected in the MII oocyte, PN5, and 2-cell stage. However, the published papers showed strong staining of H3K4me2 at the zygote stage and 2-cell stage ((Ancelin et al., 2016; Shao et al., 2014)). The authors need to cite these papers and discuss the contradictory findings.
The authors used 165 MII oocytes and 190 GV oocytes for the Cut & Run. The amount of DNA in MII oocytes is halved because of the emission of the first polar body. Would it be a reason that H3K4me2 has fewer H3K4me2 peaks in MII oocytes than GV oocytes?
In Figure 3C, 98% (13,183/13,428) of H3K4me2 marked genes in GV oocytes overlap with those in the 4-cell stage. Furthermore, 92% (14,049/15,112) of H3K4me2 marked genes in sperm overlap with those in the 4-cell stage. Therefore, most regions maintain germ line-derived H3K4me2 in the 4-cell stage. The authors need to clarify which regions of germ line-derived H3K4me2 are maintained or erased in preimplantation embryos. Additionally, it would be interesting to investigate which regions show the parental allele-specific H3K4me2 in preimplantation embryos since the authors used hybrid preimplantation embryos (B6 x DBA).
(2) The authors claim that Kdm1a is rarely expressed during mouse embryonic development (Figure 4A). However, the published paper showed that KDM1a is present in the zygote and 2-cell stage using immunostaining and western blotting ((Ancelin et al., 2016)). Additionally, this paper showed that depletion of maternal KDM1A protein results in developmental arrest at the two-cell stage, and therefore, KDM1a is functionally important in early development. The authors should have cited the paper and described the role of KDM1a in early embryos.
(3) The authors used the published RNA data set and interpreted that KDM1B (LSD2) was highly expressed at the MII stage (Figure S3A). However, the heat map shows that KDM1B expression is high in growing oocytes but not at 8w_oocytes and MII oocytes. The authors need to interpret the data accurately.
(4) All embryos in the TCP group were arrested at the four-cell stage. Embryos generated from KDM1b KO females can survive until E10.5 (Ciccone et al., 2009); therefore, TCP-treated embryos show a more severe phenotype than oocyte-derived KDM1b deleted embryos. Depletion of maternal KDM1A protein results in developmental arrest at the two-cell stage ((Ancelin et al., 2016)). The authors need to examine whether TCP treatment affects KDM1a expression. Western blotting would be recommended to quantify the expression of KDM1A and KDM1B in the TCP-treated embryos.
(5) H3K4me2 is increased dramatically in the TCP-treated embryos in Figure 4 (the intensity is 1,000 times more than the control). However, the Cut & Run H3K4me2 shows that the H3K4me2 signal is increased in 251 genes and decreased in 194 genes in the TCP-treated embryos (Fold changes > 2, P < 0.01). The authors need to explain why the gain of H3K4me2 is less evident in the Cut & Run data set than in the immunofluorescence result.
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Shao, G. B., Chen, J. C., Zhang, L. P., Huang, P., Lu, H. Y., Jin, J., Gong, A. H., & Sang, J. R. (2014). Dynamic patterns of histone H3 lysine 4 methyltransferases and demethylases during mouse preimplantation development. In Vitro Cellular and Developmental Biology - Animal, 50(7), 603-613. https://doi.org/10.1007/s11626-014-9741-6
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Summary:
This study explores the dynamic reprogramming of histone modification H3K4me2 during the early stages of mammalian embryogenesis. Utilizing the advanced CUT&RUN technique coupled with high-throughput sequencing, the authors investigate the erasure and re-establishment of H3K4me2 in mouse germinal vesicle (GV) oocytes, metaphase II (MII) oocytes, and early embryos.
Strengths:
The findings provide valuable insights into the temporal and spatial dynamics of H3K4me2 and its potential role in zygotic genome activation (ZGA).
Weaknesses:
The study primarily remains descriptive at this point. It would be advantageous to conduct further comprehensive functional validation and mechanistic exploration.<br /> Key areas for improvement include enhancing the innovation and novelty of the study, providing robust functional validation, establishing a clear model for H3K4me2's role, and addressing technical and presentation issues. The text would benefit from the introduction of a novel conceptual framework or model that provides a clear explanation of the functional consequences and molecular mechanisms underlying H3K4me2 reprogramming in the transition from parental to early embryonic development.
While the findings are significant, the current manuscript falls short in several critical areas. Addressing major and minor issues will significantly strengthen the study's contribution to the field of epigenetic reprogramming and embryonic development.
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Summary:<br /> In this study, the authors developed a novel radiotherapy sensitivity score (NPC-RSS) for nasopharyngeal carcinoma patients using machine learning algorithms. They identified 18 key genes associated with radiosensitivity and demonstrated that NPC-RSS could effectively predict radiotherapy response in both public and in-house datasets. Furthermore, they found that the key genes of NPC-RSS were closely related to immune characteristics, the expression of radiosensitivity-related genes, and signaling pathways involved in disease progression. The authors validated the consistency of expression of two key genes, SMARCA2 and CD9, with NPC-RSS in their own cell lines. They also showed that the radiosensitive group, classified by NPC-RSS, exhibited a more enriched and activated state of immune infiltration compared to the radioresistant group.
Strengths:<br /> (1) The study employed a comprehensive approach by integrating multiple machine learning algorithms to develop a robust predictive model for radiotherapy sensitivity in nasopharyngeal carcinoma patients.<br /> (2) The predictive performance of NPC-RSS was validated using both public and in-house datasets, demonstrating its potential clinical applicability.<br /> (3) The authors conducted extensive analyses to investigate the biological mechanisms underlying the association between NPC-RSS and radiotherapy response, including immune characteristics, radiosensitivity-related gene expression, and relevant signaling pathways.<br /> (4) The consistency of key gene expression with NPC-RSS was validated in the authors' own cell lines, providing additional experimental evidence.
Weaknesses:<br /> (1) The sample size of the in-house dataset used for training the model was relatively small (34 patients), which might limit the generalizability of the findings.<br /> (2) The authors did not perform functional experiments to directly validate the roles of the identified key genes in radiotherapy sensitivity, relying instead on associations with immune features and signaling pathways.<br /> (3) The study did not discuss the potential limitations of using machine learning algorithms, such as the risk of overfitting and the need for larger, diverse datasets for more robust model development and validation.
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Summary:<br /> This article, titled "A multi-gene predictive model for the radiation sensitivity of nasopharyngeal carcinoma based on machine learning," utilizes machine learning methods and transcriptomic data from nasopharyngeal carcinoma (NPC) patients to construct a biomarker called NPC-RSS that can predict the radiosensitivity of NPC patients. The authors further explore the biological mechanisms underlying the relationship between NPC-RSS and radiotherapy response in NPC patients. The main objective of this study is to guide the selection of radiotherapy strategies for NPC patients, thereby improving their clinical outcomes and prognosis.
Strengths:<br /> (1) The combination of multiple machine learning algorithms and cross-validation was used to select the best predictive model for radiotherapy sensitivity from 71 differentially expressed genes, enhancing the robustness and reliability of the predictions.<br /> (2) Functional enrichment analysis revealed close associations between NPC-RSS key genes and immune characteristics, expression of radiotherapy sensitivity-related genes, and signaling pathways related to disease progression, providing a biological basis for NPC-RSS in predicting radiotherapy sensitivity.<br /> (3) Grouping NPC samples according to NPC-RSS showed that the radiotherapy-sensitive group exhibited a more enriched and activated state of immune infiltration compared to the radioresistant group. In single-cell samples, NPC-RSS was higher in the radiotherapy-sensitive group, with immune cells playing a dominant role. These results clarify the mechanism of NPC-RSS in predicting radiotherapy sensitivity from an immunological perspective.<br /> (4) The study used public datasets and in-house cohort data for validation, confirming the good predictive performance of NPC-RSS and increasing the credibility of the results.
Limitation:<br /> (1) The study focuses on a specific type of nasopharyngeal carcinoma (NPC) and may not be generalizable to other subtypes or related head and neck cancers. The applicability of NPC-RSS to a broader range of patients and tumor types remains to be determined.<br /> (2) The study does not account for potential differences in radiotherapy protocols, doses, and techniques between the training and validation cohorts, which could influence the performance of the predictive model. Standardization of treatment parameters would be important for future validation studies.<br /> (3) The binary classification of patients into radiotherapy-sensitive and resistant groups may oversimplify the complex spectrum of treatment responses. A more granular stratification system that captures intermediate responses could provide more nuanced predictions and better guide personalized treatment decisions.<br /> (4) The study does not address the potential impact of other relevant factors, such as tumor stage, histological subtype, and concurrent chemotherapy, on the predictive performance of NPC-RSS. Incorporating these clinical variables into the model could enhance its accuracy and clinical utility.
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In this study, the authors conducted a single-cell RNA sequencing analysis of the cellular and transcriptional landscape of the gastric cancer tumor microenvironment, stratifying patients according to their H. pylori status into currently infected, previously infected, and non-infected patients. The authors comprehensively dissect various cellular compartments, including epithelial, stromal, and immune cells, and describe specific cell types and signatures to be associated with H. pylori infection, including i) inflammatory and EMT signatures in malignant epithelial cells, ii) inflammatory CAFs in stromal cells, iii) Angio-TAMs, TREM2+ TAMs, exhausted and suppressive T cells in immune cells. Looking at ligand-receptor interactions as well as correlations between cell type abundances, they suggest that iCAFs interact with immunosuppressive T cells via a NECTIN2-TIGIT axis, as well as Angio-TAMs through a VEGFA/B-VEGFR1 axis and thereby promote immune escape, tumor angiogenesis and resistance to immunotherapy.
The authors conduct a comprehensive and thorough analysis of the complex tumor microenvironment of gastric cancer, both single-cell RNA sequencing data as well as the analysis seem of high quality and according to best practices. The authors validate their findings using external datasets, and include some prognostic value of the identified signatures and cell types. However, most of their conclusions throughout the manuscript are based on the comparison between HPGC and healthy controls, which is not a valid comparison to determine which of the phenotypes are specifically driven by HP infection, e.g. Tregs are high in all GC types, independent of HP status. The same holds true for TREM+ TAMs and iCAFs, which are higher in GC in general. This makes it very difficult to assess the actual HP-driven signatures and cell types. Also, when looking at the correlation/transcriptional differences across different cell types and cellular interactions, the authors do not explicitly define if they are looking at the whole dataset (including healthy controls?) or only at certain patients (HPGC?), which again makes it difficult to interpret the results.
The authors aim to confirm some of their findings via immunofluorescence, which in principle is a great approach to validate their results. However, to be able to conclude that e.g. suppressive TIGIT+ T cells are located close to NECTIN2+ malignant epithelium and that this might facilitate immune escape in HPGC (Figure 4K), the authors should include stains that show that this is not the case in the other groups (nonHPGC, exHPGC and HC). The same holds true for Figure 5G.
In summary, this study provides a valuable resource on the cellular and transcriptional heterogeneity of the tumor microenvironment in gastric cancers, distinguishing between positive, negative, and previously positive HP-infected gastric cancer patients. Given that HP is the main risk factor for gastric cancer development, the study provides valuable insights into HP-driven transcriptional signatures and how these might contribute to this increased risk, however, the study would highly benefit from a clearer and more stringent comparison between HPGC and nonHPGC.
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Summary:
This study aims to describe the single-cell transcriptomes of H pylori-associated (Hp) gastric cancers and tumour microenvironment (TME), as a starting point to understand TME diversity stratified by Hp status.
RNAseq was performed for gastric cancers with current Hp+ (from N=9 people), ex-Hp+ (N=6), non-Hp (N=6), and healthy gastric tissue (N=6).
The study expands on previous single-cell transcriptomic studies of gastric cancers and was motivated by previous observations about the effect of H pylori status on therapeutic outcomes. The study includes a brief review of previous work and provides valuable context for this study.
Strengths:
The observations are supported by solid RNAseq study design and analysis. The authors describe correlations between Hp status and inferred molecular characteristics including cell lineages, enrichment for cell subclusters identified as tumour-infiltrating lyphocyte cell types, tumour-infiltrating myeloid cells, and cancer-associated fibroblasts.
The observed correlations between Hp status and enrichment of cell subclusters were broadly corroborated using comparisons to deconvolved bulk RNAseq from publicly available gastric cancer data, providing a convincing starting point for understanding the diversity of tumour microenvironment by Hp-status.
Weaknesses:
The authors acknowledge several limitations of this study.
The correlations with HP-status are based on a small number of participants per Hp category (N=9 with current Hp+; N=6 for ex-HP+ and non-HP), and would benefit from further validation to establish reproducibility in other cohorts.
The ligand-receptor cross-talk analysis and the suggestion that suppressive T cells could interact with the malignant epithelium through TIGIT-NECTIN2/PVR pairs, are preliminary findings based on transcriptomic analysis and immunostaining and will require further validation.
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In this paper, Li and colleagues have found mircoRNAs that affect levels of metamorphosis-regulating genes that can also affect levels of sesquiterpenoids (juvenile hormone and related compounds) and ecdysteriods, which regulate the timing and stages of insects, respectively. They first compared the transcriptomes of Drosophila at the third larval instar and at the white pre-pupa stage. They found thousands of differences in gene transcript levels between males and females, and between the two different stages. Among those genes that were differentially regulated they saw that genes involved in insect hormone biosynthesis were disproportionately represented. Many of the differentially regulated genes were involved in the insect hormone biosynthesis pathway and ascorbate and alderete metabolism. MicroRNAs were also differentially expressed during metamorphosis and were separately identified. The authors then considered genes and whether the differentially expressed microRNAs might regulate transcripts known to be involved in sesquiterpenoid production. In silico analysis of microRNAs predicted a list of 17 microRNAs that can regulate transcripts of sesquiterpenoid biosynthesis genes. The authors then used an in vitro luciferase assay to validate the binding and downregulation of 10 of the microRNAs to genes involved with sesquiterpenoid production in S2 cells.
Li and colleagues then focus on two genes they found were bound by microRNAs that have established roles in metamorphosis. The microRNAs miR-34 and miR-277 bind transcripts of two protein-coding genes that regulate metamorphosis Kr-h1, which encodes a transcription factor that is a JH-inducible transcription factor, and Allatostatin C Receptor 1, (AstC-R1), a G-protein coupled receptor that regulates the corpora allatum, the gland that produces sesquiterpenoids. Using a LAMP assay, one of the microRNAs, miR-277 was shown to bind to both AstC-R1 and Kr-h1 in in vivo whole-animal extracts. There is no mention of binding between either protein-coding transcript and the miR-34 microRNA. Temporal expression of all four transcripts shows that their abundance is anti-correlated; stages of high miR-34 or miR-277 expression correlate with low AstC-R1 or Kr-h1 expression. Homozygous deletions of both mircroRNAs result in 23% lethality, five days after adult eclosion. The authors also generated specific mutants in miR-34 or miR-277 and find differences in the expression of AstC-R1 and Kr-h1 and sex-specific differences in both sesquiterpenoids and ecdysteroids in the knock-out lines. If there were phenotypes associated with the specific knock-outs, those were not mentioned. Next, the authors examined the transcriptomes of the miR-3277 and miR-34 mutants and found several other GO-terms enriched among the differentially expressed genes. However, the sesquiterpenoid pathway and ascorbate and alderete metabolism are not listed.
Strengths:
This is an interesting manuscript that could make an important contribution to our understanding of the roles of micro RNAs at metamorphosis, and potentially of how sex-specific differences arise during metamorphosis. Strengths of the paper include the functional validation of microRNA binding, in vitro and in vivo-, as well as the characterization of sesquiterpenoid and ecdysteroid titers. The authors have also used CRISPR to generate specific knock-outs of miR-34 and miR-277. The transcriptomes will be a resource for future work to mine for differences in gene expression during metamorphosis.
Weaknesses:
(1) Spatial Expression of miR-34 and miR-277. If miR-34 and miR-277 regulate AstC-R1 and Kr-h1, then they must be expressed in the same cells. Although the authors show that the microRNAs do bind to the transcripts of AstC-R1 and Kr-h1 in S2 cells, and miR-277 binds AstC-R1 and Kr-h1 in vivo whole-animal homogenates, we do not know if the microRNAs are ever in the cells where AstC-R1 or Kr-h1 are expressed. AstC-R1 is only expressed in a few cells in the brain, so it is not at all certain that it is co-expressed with either microRNA. The creation of enhancer lines or in situ hybridization in Drosophila is straightforward and would sort this out.
(2) Phenotypes. Although a double deletion was used and specific knock-outs of both miR-34 and miR-277 were generated, the analysis of the mutants is very superficial. For the homozygous deletion of both microRNAs miR-34 and miR-277, only a decrease in survivorship was observed a full six days after adult eclosion - after the end of metamorphosis. No phenotype for either miR-34KO or miR-277-KO was given. The authors cite the work of others who have found specific phenotypes after manipulation of sesquiterpenoids or ecdysteroids, like Riddiford and Ashburner, but do not use any of these many studies to help them characterize the phenotype. If the loss of miR-34 and miR-277 affects so many pathways (including MAPK signaling, TGF-beta signaling, FoxO signaling, and Wnt signaling), as well as global titers of metamorphic hormones, then there shouldn't there be something different in the development to discuss?
(3) I think the reliance on GO term enrichment is getting in the way of biology. For instance, I would not describe Kr-h1 as a sesquiterpenoid biosynthesis pathway gene. Yet the authors say they were motivated to examine microRNA regulation of Kr-h1 because they saw differences in levels of the sesquiterpenoid biosynthesis pathway between WL3 and WPP, a period which also saw differences in expression of some microRNAs. I understand that Kr-h1 expression is regulated by JH, a sesquiterpenoid, but it is not directly involved with JH production, so relying on GO term enrichment has made the decision to focus on Kr-h1 feel arbitrary.
(4) The transcriptomes of miR-34 and miR-277 should have revealed genes encoding members of the sesquiterpenoid biosynthesis pathway as well as AstC-R1 and Kr-h1, but neither was mentioned. The functional tests of miR-34 and miR-277 were performed because they were shown to affect the levels of expression of genes in the sesquiterpenoid biosynthesis pathway. Figure 2 shows a significant decrease in AstC-R1 and Kr-h1 transcripts after the loss of miR-34 and miR-277. However, the results do not mention either (Lines 250-264). Instead, there is a list of 10 different GO terms (like arginine and proline metabolism or fatty acid degradation) that were enriched in miR-34 and miR-277 transcriptomes. If any of those ten types have any relationship to Kr-h1, AstC-R1, or metamorphosis, that has not been explained.
(5) Not enough care was taken in describing the stages. The methods describe wandering larvae (WL3) and white pre-pupa (WPP) for the transcriptomes, but in the text, different terms are used, like "larva", "pupa" and "L3 larvae instars" "early pupae" "late L3". Also, it seems like the small RNA libraries for sequencing were taken from "L3 larvae", but the stage of the L3 larvae was not mentioned. Staging is important, especially during metamorphosis, since differences in expression are expected to exist between different stages of L3, between early vs late wandering, and between WPP and early pupal stages.
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Reviewer #2 (Public Review):
Summary:
This study proposes that the microRNA cluster miR-277/34 controls the generation of sexual dimorphism in Drosophila melanogaster during metamorphosis by acting on specific hormonal and developmental gene pathways.
Strengths:
Using a combination of mRNA and small RNA sequencing together with genome-wide in silico and in vitro analyses the authors identified a microRNA cluster that may be involved in metamorphosis and the generation of sexual dimorphism in Drosophila melanogaster.
Weaknesses:
Biological validation of the identified sexually dimorphic genes and a detailed understanding of how the microRNA cluster miR-277/34 might be involved in the regulation of sesquiterpenoids are needed.
Major suggestions:
(1) If AstC-R1 and Kr-h1 are targets of the miR-277/34 cluster and cause their downregulation, it is not clear why there would also be a decrease in the levels of these genes in the miR-277/34 mutants. This would suggest that the mechanism is not straightforward and that further epistatic experiments should be carried out in order to clarify this issue.
(2) The changes in the expression levels of AstC-R1 in pupae of miR-277-KO and mir-34-KO flies must be accompanied by photos of the respective larvae and pupae, as well as an analysis of the larvae-pupa transition on the mutants by gender.
(3) Biological validation of the identified sexually dimorphic genes in vivo will be necessary for the support of this work.
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Summary:
The authors show convincingly the complexity of gene up- and down-regulation at the outset of metamorphosis and identify substantial differences between the two sexes, even at this early time in development. The complexity of microRNA expression and the difference between the sexes are also nicely laid out. The functional significance of these differences, though, is harder to establish. The authors have focused on the roles of two families of developmental hormones, the ecdysteroids, and the juvenile hormones. The emergence of sex-specific differentiation of organs during metamorphosis is clearly downstream of the action of ecdysteroids and/or JH, but there is no evidence that the presence or lack of these hormones has any effect on the sexual identity of organ systems - i.e., that manipulations of JH or ecdysteroid result in either the masculinization or feminization of individuals or their organs. The precedence for the linkage of these hormones to sex determination is the 2002, Belgacem & Martin study, which describes the effects of JH on fly locomotion. These authors show that the number of stop/start bouts is sexually dimorphic, and removal of JH in males shifts their frequency into the female range while giving treated males exogenous JH moves it back. While this is referred to as a "feminization" of male behavior, this quantitative shift in frequency is not as compelling as would be a qualitative shift -- for example, the removal of JH causing males to show egg-laying behavior (a result that has never been seen). Also, these effects are in a fully mature system, rather than at the early metamorphic time examined in the present paper. In driving and coordination metamorphosis, JH and ecdysteroids are intimately involved in sexual differentiation, but I know of no compelling evidence that they play a role in sex determination.
While the summary of the effects or removal of specific microRNAs on the components of the biosynthetic pathway for the JHs and ecdysteroids (Figure 2E ,F) is quite compelling, I am concerned about the effects of the removal of mir-277 and mir-34 on the levels of both the JHs and 20E. My concern centers around the data from the control group (w[1118] animals in Figure 2D). These data are the first report of a marked sex difference in the titer of either JH or ecdysteroid at the start of metamorphosis in Drosophila. As expected, males show a 10-20 increase in levels of JH III, JHB3, and 20E between the L3 stage and the white puparium, but, surprisingly, the levels of these hormones in female L3 larvae are equal to or greater than that seen at pupariation! These data for females run counter to over 50 years of work on the effects of ecdysteroids in Drosophila!
As far as I can gather from the paper, the L3 data were obtained using wandering larvae. This stage lasts for about 12 hours and ends with pupariation. Larvae from this period need to be used with caution for hormone studies. Levels of both JH and ecdysteroid are low as larvae leave the food but rapidly rise to their peak levels at the white puparium stage 12 hours later. To deal with the rapidly changing hormonal landscape through this period, the researchers have used physiological markers to track this progression. Initially, it was the sage of "puffing" of the giant salivary gland chromosomes, but, for bulk collection of staged larvae, larvae are fed on food containing a blue dye, and progression is tracked by the loss of blue coloring from the gut. I could not find if the authors had any criteria for selecting larvae during the wandering period. Male and female larvae grow to different sizes. Might this difference in growth be biased when larvae were selected during their wandering phase?
The other hormone-related issue is the expression of Kr-h1 during larval stages and metamorphosis (Figure 1G). Kr-h1 is the main target of JH and Kr-h1 expression is often used as a proxy for the JH titer. The authors report that peak Kr-h1 expression occurs in the L3 (when the JH titer should be lowest!) and that it drops at wandering. This pattern is counter to that reported in the literature (e.g., FlyBase, ModEncode).
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The paper titled "STAG3 promotes exit from pluripotency through post-transcriptional mRNA regulation in the cytoplasm" suggests a new and unexpected role for STAG3, a protein traditionally associated with the cohesin complex during meiosis, in regulating the exit from pluripotency in mouse embryonic stem cells (mESCs). While STAG3 is traditionally studied for its role in meiosis, this paper reveals that STAG3 is expressed in mouse embryonic stem cells (mESCs) and primordial germ cell-like cells (PGCLCs) and may be necessary for PGCLC-like specification and exit from pluripotency. In ESCs, the study reports that STAG3 is found in the cytoplasm, where it interacts with various RNA-binding proteins (RBPs) and localizes to centrosomes. Knockdown of STAG3 disrupts centrosome stability and RNA-induced silencing complex (RISC) components, leading to the misregulation of mRNAs such as DPPA3, Nanog, and TNRC6C. In summary, this study expands the known functions of STAG3 beyond cohesin, highlighting a potential role in cytoplasmic post-transcriptional regulation.
The authors perform a comprehensive characterization of RNA and protein changes in ESCs and differentiated cells upon loss of STAG3, providing preliminary and intriguing insights. However, there are several aspects that require further exploration:
(1) A rescue experiment for the STAG3 RNAi is missing, making it unclear whether the observed effects are indeed due to the knockdown of STAG3.
(2) While the paper identifies several interactions and effects of STAG3, it lacks detailed mechanistic insights into how STAG3 regulates specific mRNAs and proteins. Specifically, it is unclear which proteins directly interact with STAG3 or recruit STAG3 to RNP complexes. AlphaFold may help in this analysis.
(3) It is unclear whether this is an alternative STAG3 isoform or if STAG3 is modified. What dictates its interaction with cohesin versus RNPs?
(5) Are there unique features or sequence barcodes present on the misregulated RNAs?
(6) Does STAG3 associate with a single type of RNP or is it present in all types?
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Summary:
This manuscript addresses the intriguing topic of the potential roles of germline-specific proteins in early development. While this issue is quite interesting and generally under-explored, the work falls short of making truly tangible inroads.
Strengths:
The strength of the study is in new proteomic datasets.
Weaknesses:
The manuscript makes some strong statements, beginning with the title "STAG3 (1) promotes exit from pluripotency (2) through post-transcriptional mRNA regulation in the cytoplasm".
Upon reviewing the data it appears that neither (1) or (2) here have strong foundations based on experiments presented. While intriguing, the experimental evidence is still rather inconclusive.
The potential involvement of STAG3 in PGC specification is the most intriguing aspect of this study. Unfortunately, it is not going far enough to derive a fully meaningful biological conclusion. In fact, DPPPA3-GFP, PRDM-GFP, and PGC marker expression results are contradictory and do not form a coherent picture of the biological effect of STAG3 depletion. No effect of the knock-down in PGC specification when PRDM is scored (line 167) is particularly worrisome. As for finding a cytoplasmic role of STAG3, the data also remain inconclusive.
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Reviewer #1 (Public Review):
Summary:<br /> The authors used multiple approaches to study salt effects in liquid-liquid phase separation (LLPS). Results on both wild-type Caprin1 and mutants and on different types of salts contribute to a comprehensive understanding.
Strengths:<br /> The main strength of this work is the thoroughness of investigation. This aspect is highlighted by the multiple approaches used in the study, and reinforced by the multiple protein variants and different salts studied.
Weaknesses:<br /> (1) The multiple computational approaches are a strength, but they're cruder than explicit-solvent all-atom molecular dynamics (MD) simulations and may miss subtle effects of salts. In particular, all-atom MD simulations demonstrate that high salt strengthens pi-types of interactions (ref. 42 and MacAinsh et al, https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2024.05.26.596000v3).
(2) The paper can be improved by distilling the various results into a simple set of conclusions. By example, based on salt effects revealed by all-atom MD simulations, MacAinsh et al. presented a sequence-based predictor for classes of salt dependence. Wild-type Caprin1 fits right into the "high net charge" class, with a high net charge and a high aromatic content, showing no LLPS at 0 NaCl and an increasing tendency of LLPS with increasing NaCl. In contrast, pY-Caprin1 belongs to the "screening" class, with a high level of charged residues and showing a decreasing tendency of LLPS.
(3) Mechanistic interpretations can be further simplified or clarified. (i) Reentrant salt effects (e.g., Fig. 4a) are reported but no simple explanation seems to have been provided. Fig. 4a,b look very similar to what has been reported as strong-attraction promotor and weak-attraction suppressor, respectively (ref. 50; see also PMC5928213 Fig. 2d,b). According to the latter two studies, the "reentrant" behavior of a strong-attraction promotor, CL- in the present case, is due to Cl-mediated attraction at low to medium [NaCl] and repulsion between Cl- ions at high salt. Do the authors agree with this explanation? If not, could they provide another simple physical explanation? (ii) The authors attributed the promotional effect of Cl- to counterion-bridged interchain contacts, based on a single instance. There is another simple explanation, i.e., neutralization of the net charge on Caprin1. The authors should analyze their simulation results to distinguish net charge neutralization and interchain bridging; see MacAinsh et al.
(4) The authors presented ATP-Mg both as a single ion and as two separate ions; there is no explanation of which of the two versions reflects reality. When presenting ATP-Mg as a single ion, it's as though it forms a salt with Na+. I assume NaCl, ATP, and MgCl2 were used in the experiment. Why is Cl- not considered? Related to this point, it looks like ATP is just another salt ion studied and much of the Results section is on NaCl, so the emphasis of ATP ("Diverse Roles of ATP" in the title is somewhat misleading.
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Summary:<br /> In this paper, Lin and colleagues aim to understand the role of different salts on the phase behavior of a model protein of significant biological interest, Caprin1, and its phosphorylated variant, pY-Caprin1. To achieve this, the authors employed a variety of methods to complement experimental studies and obtain a molecular-level understanding of ion partitioning inside biomolecular condensates. A simple theory based on rG-RPA is shown to capture the different salt dependencies of Caprin1 and pY-Caprin1 phase separation, demonstrating excellent agreement with experimental results. The application of this theory to multivalent ions reveals many interesting features with the help of multicomponent phase diagrams. Additionally, the use of CG model-based MD simulations and FTS provides further clarity on how counterions can stabilize condensed phases.
Strengths:<br /> The greatest strength of this study lies in the integration of various methods to obtain complementary information on thermodynamic phase diagrams and the molecular details of the phase separation process. The authors have also extended their previously proposed theoretical approaches, which should be of significant interest to other researchers. Some of the findings reported in this paper, such as bridging interactions, are likely to inspire new studies using higher-resolution atomistic MD simulations.
Weaknesses:<br /> The paper does not have any major issues.
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Authors first use rG-RPA to reproduce two observed trends. Caprin1 does not phase separate at very low salt but then undergoes LLPS with added salt while further addition of salt reduces its propensity to LLPS. On the other hand pY-Caprin1 exhibits a monotonic trend where the propensity to phase separate decreases with the addition of salt. This distinction is captured by a two component model and also when salt ions are explicitly modeled as a separate species with a ternary phase diagram. The predicted ternary diagrams (when co and counter ions are explicitly accounted for) also predict the tendency of ions to co-condense or exclude proteins in the dense phase. Predicted trends are generally in line with the measurement for Cparin1. Next, the authors seek to explain the observed difference in phase separation when Arginines are replaced by Lysines creating different variants. In the current rG-RPA type models both Arginine (R) and Lysine (K) are treated equally since non-electrostatic effects are only modeled in a mean-field manner that can be fitted but not predicted. For this reason, coarse grain MD simulation is suitable. Moreover, MD simulation affords structural features of the condensates. They used a force field that is capable of discriminating R and K. The MD predicted degrees of LLPS of these variants again is consistent with the measurement. One additional insight emerges from MD simulations that a negative ion can form a bridge between two positively charged residues on the chain. These insights are not possible to derive from rG-RPA. Both rG-RPA and MD simulation become cumbersome when considering multiple types of ions such as Na, Cl, [ATP] and [ATP-Mg] all present at the same time. FTS is well suited to handle this complexity. FTS also provides insights into the co-localization of ions and proteins that is consistent with NMR. By using different combinations of ions they confirm the robustness of the prediction that Caprin1 shows salt-dependent reentrant behavior, adding further support that the differential behavior of Caprin1, and pY-Caprin1 is likely to be mediated by charge-charge interactions.
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Summary:
During vertebrate gastrulation, mesendoderm cells are initially specified by morphogens (e.g. Nodal) and segregate into endoderm and mesoderm in part based on Nodal concentrations. Using zebrafish genetics, live imaging, and single-cell multi-omics, the manuscript by Cheng et al presents evidence to support a claim that anterior endoderm progenitors derive primarily from prechordal plate progenitors, with transcriptional regulators goosecoid (Gsc) and ripply1 playing key roles in this cell fate determination. Such a finding would represent a significant advance in our understanding of how anterior endoderm is specified in vertebrate embryos.
Strengths:
Live imaging-based tracking of PP and endo reporters (Figure 2) is well executed and convincing, though a larger number of individual cell tracks will be needed. Currently, only a single cell track (n=1) is provided.
Weaknesses:
(1) The central claim of the paper - that the anterior endoderm progenitors arise directly from prechordal plate progenitors - is not adequately supported by the evidence presented. This is a claim about cell lineage, which the authors are attempting to support with data from single-cell profiling and genetic manipulations in embryos and explants. The construction of gene expression (pseudo-time) trajectories, while a modern and powerful approach for hypothesis generation, should not be used as a substitute for bona fide lineage tracing methods. If the authors' central hypothesis is correct, a CRE-based lineage tracing experiment (e.g. driving CRE using a PP marker such as Gsc) should be able to label PP progenitor cells that ultimately contribute to anterior endoderm-derived tissues. Such an experiment would also allow the authors to quantify the relative contribution of PP (vs non-PP) cells to the anterior endoderm, which is not possible to estimate from the indirect data currently provided. Note: while the present version of the manuscript does describe a sox17:CRE lineage tracing experiment, this actually goes in the opposite direction that would be informative (sox:17:CRE-marked descendants will be a mixture of PP-derived and non-PP derived cells, and the Gsc-based reporter does not allow for long-term tracking the fates of these cells).
(2) The authors' descriptions of gene expression patterns in the single-cell trajectory analyses do not always match the data. For example, it is stated that goosecoid expression marks progenitor cells that exist prior to a PP vs endo fate bifurcation (e.g. lines 124-130). Yet, in Figure 1C it appears that in fact goosecoid expression largely does not precede (but actually follows) the split and is predominantly expressed in cells that have already been specified into the PP branch. Likewise, most of the cells in the endo branch (or prior) appear to never express Gsc. While these trends do indeed appear to be more muddled in the explant data (Figure 1H), it still seems quite far-fetched to claim that Gsc expression is a hallmark of endoderm-PP progenitors.
(3) The study seems to refer to "endoderm" and "anterior endoderm" somewhat interchangeably, and this is potentially problematic. Most single-cell-based analyses appearing in the study rely on global endoderm markers (sox17, sox32) which are expressed in endodermal precursors along the entire ventrolateral margin. Some of these cells are adjacent to the prechordal plate on the dorsal side of the gastrula, but many (most in fact) are quite some distance away. The microscopy-based evidence presented in Figure 2 and elsewhere, however, focuses on a small number of sox17-expressing cells that are directly adjacent to, or intermingled with, the prechordal plate. It, therefore, seems problematic for the authors to generalize potential overlaps with the PP lineage to the entire endoderm, which includes cells in ventral locations. It would be helpful if the authors could search for additional markers that might stratify and/or mark the anterior endoderm and perform their trajectory analysis specifically on these cells.
(4) It is not clear that the use of the nodal explant system is allowing for rigorous assessment of endoderm specification. Why are the numbers of endoderm cells so vanishingly few in the nodal explant experiments (Figure 1H, 3H), especially when compared to the embryo itself (e.g. Figures 1C-D)? It seems difficult to perform a rigorous analysis of endoderm specification using this particular model which seems inherently more biased towards PP vs. endoderm than the embryo itself. Why not simply perform nodal pathway manipulations in embryos?
(5) The authors should not claim that proximity in UMAP space is an indication of transcriptional similarity (lines 207-208), especially for well-separated clusters. This is a serious misrepresentation of the proper usage of the UMAP algorithm. The authors make a similar claim later on (lines 272-274).
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Summary:
During vertebrate gastrulation, the mesoderm and endoderm arise from a common population of precursor cells and are specified by similar signaling events, raising questions as to how these two germ layers are distinguished. Here, Cheng and colleagues use zebrafish gastrulation as a model for mesoderm and endoderm segregation. By reanalyzing published single-cell sequencing data, they identify a common progenitor population for the anterior endoderm and the mesodermal prechordal plate (PP). They find that expression levels of PP genes Gsc and ripply are among the earliest differences between these populations and that their increased expression suppresses the expression of endoderm markers. Further analysis of chromatin accessibility and Ripply cut-and-tag is consistent with direct repression of endoderm by this PP marker. This study demonstrates the roles of Gsc and Ripply in suppressing anterior endoderm fate, but this role for Gsc was already known and the effect of Ripply is limited to a small population of anterior endoderm. The manuscript also focuses extensively on the function of Nodal in specifying and patterning the mesoderm and endoderm, a role that is already well known and to which the current analysis adds little new insight.
Strengths:
Integrated single-cell ATAC- and RNA-seq convincingly demonstrate changes in chromatin accessibility that may underlie the segregation of mesoderm and endoderm lineages, including Gsc and ripply. Identification of Ripply-occupied genomic regions augments this analysis. The genetic mutants for both genes provide strong evidence for their function in anterior mesendoderm development, although these phenotypes are subtle.
Weaknesses:
The use of zebrafish embryonic explants for cell fate trajectory analysis (rather than intact embryos) is not justified. In both transcriptomic comparisons between the two fate trajectories of interest and Ripply cut-and-tag analysis, the authors rely too heavily on gene ontology which adds little to our functional understanding. Much of the work is focused on the role of Nodal in the mesoderm/endoderm fate decision, but the results largely confirm previous studies and again provide few new insights. Some experiments were designed to test the relationship between the mesoderm and endoderm lineages and the role of epigenetic regulators therein, but these experiments were not properly controlled and therefore difficult to interpret.
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Reviewer #3 (Public Review):
Summary:
Cheng, Liu, Dong, et al. demonstrate that anterior endoderm cells can arise from prechordal plate progenitors, which is suggested by pseudo time reanalysis of published scRNAseq data, pseudo time analysis of new scRNAseq data generated from Nodal-stimulated explants, live imaging from sox17:DsRed and Gsc:eGFP transgenics, fluorescent in situ hybridization, and a Cre/Lox system. Early fate mapping studies already suggested that progenitors at the dorsal margin give rise to both of these cell types (Warga) and live imaging from the Heisenberg lab (Sako 2016, Barone 2017) also pretty convincingly showed this. However, the data presented for this point are very nice, and the additional experiments in this manuscript, however, further cement this result. Though better demonstrated by previous work (Alexander 1999, Gritsman 1999, Gritsman 2000, Sako 2016, Rogers 2017, others), the manuscript suggests that high Nodal signaling is required for both cell types, and shows preliminary data that suggests that FGF signaling may also be important in their segregation. The manuscript also presents new single-cell RNAseq data from Nodal-stimulated explants with increased (lft1 KO) or decreased (ndr1 KD) Nodal signaling and multi-omic ATAC+scRNAseq data from wild-type 6 hpf embryos but draws relatively few conclusions from these data. Lastly, the manuscript presents data that SWI/SNF remodelers and Ripply1 may be involved in the anterior endoderm - prechordal plate decision, but these data are less convincing. The SWI/SNF remodeler experiments are unconvincing because the demonstration that these factors are differentially expressed or active between the two cell types is weak. The Ripply1 gain-of-function experiments are unconvincing because they are based on incredibly high overexpression of ripply1 (500 pg or 1000 pg) that generates a phenotype that is not in line with previously demonstrated overexpression studies (with phenotypes from 10-20x lower expression). Similarly, the cut-and-tag data seems low quality and like it doesn't support direct binding of ripply1 to these loci.
In the end, this study provides new details that are likely important in the cell fate decision between the prechordal plate and anterior endoderm; however, it is unclear how Nodal signaling, FGF signaling, and elements of the gene regulatory network (including Gsc, possibly ripply1, and other factors) interact to make the decision. I suggest that this manuscript is of most interest to Nodal signaling or zebrafish germ layer patterning afficionados. While it provides new datasets and observations, it does not weave these into a convincing story to provide a major advance in our understanding of the specification of these cell types.
Major issues:
(1) UMAPs: There are several instances in the manuscript where UMAPs are used incorrectly as support for statements about how transcriptionally similar two populations are. UMAP is a stochastic, non-linear projection for visualization - distances in UMAP cannot be used to determine how transcriptionally similar or dissimilar two groups are. In order to make conclusions about how transcriptionally similar two populations are requires performing calculations either in the gene expression space, or in a linear dimensional reduction space (e.g. PCA, keeping in mind that this will only consider the subset of genes used as input into the PCA). Please correct or remove these instances, which include (but are not limited to):<br /> p.4 107-110<br /> p.4 112<br /> p.8 207-208<br /> p.10 273-275
(2) Nodal and lefty manipulations: The section "Nodal-Lefty regulatory loop is needed for PP and anterior Endo fate specification" and Figure 3 do not draw any significant conclusions. This section presents a LIANA analysis to determine the signals that might be important between prechordal plate and endoderm, but despite the fact that it suggests that BMP, Nodal, FGF, and Wnt signaling might be important, the manuscript just concludes that Nodal signaling is important. Perhaps this is because the conclusion that Nodal signaling is required for the specification of these cell types has been demonstrated in zebrafish in several other studies with more convincing experiments (Alexander 1999, Gritsman 1999, Gritsman 2000, Rogers 2017, Sako 2016). While FGF has recently been demonstrated to be a key player in the stochastic decision to adopt endodermal fate in lateral endoderm (Economou 2022), the idea that FGF signaling may be a key player in the differentiation of these two cell types has strangely been relegated to the discussion and supplement. Lastly, the manuscript does not make clear the advantage of performing experiments to explore the PP-Endo decision in Nodal-stimulated explants compared to data from intact embryos. What would be learned from this and not from an embryo? Since Nodal signaling stimulates the expression of Wnts and FGFs, these data do not test Nodal signaling independent of the other pathways. It is unclear why this artificial system that has some disadvantages is used since the manuscript does not make clear any advantages that it might have had.
(3) ripply1 mRNA injection phenotype inconsistent with previous literature: The phenotype presented in this manuscript from overexpressing ripply1 mRNA (Fig S11) is inconsistent with previous observations. This study shows a much more dramatic phenotype, suggesting that the overexpression may be to a non-physiological level that makes it difficult to interpret the gain-of-function experiments. For instance, Kawamura et al 2005 perform this experiment but do not trigger loss of head and eye structures or loss of tail structures. Similarly, Kawamura et al 2008 repeat the experiment, triggering a mildly more dramatic shortening of the tail and complete removal of the notochord, but again no disturbance of head structures as displayed here. These previous studies injected 25 - 100 pg of ripply1 mRNA with dramatic phenotypes, whereas this study uses 500 - 1000 pg. The phenotype is so much more dramatic than previously presented that it suggests that the level of ripply1 overexpression is sufficiently high that it may no longer be regulating only its endogenous targets, making the results drawn from ripply1 overexpression difficult to trust.
(4) Ripply1 binding to sox17 and sox32 regulatory regions not convincing: The Cut and Tag data presented in Fig 6J-K does not seem to be high quality and does not seem to provide strong support that Ripply 1 binds to the regulatory regions of these genes. The signal-to-noise ratio is very poor, and the 'binding' near sox17 that is identified seems to be even coverage over a 14 kb region, which is not consistent with site-specific recruitment of this factor, and the 'peaks' highlighted with yellow boxes do not appear to be peaks at all. To me, it seems this probably represents either: (1) overtagmentation of these samples or (2) an overexpression artifact from injection of too high concentration of ripply1-HA mRNA. In general, Cut and Tag is only recommended for histone modifications, and Cut and Run would be recommended for transcriptional regulators like these (see Epicypher's literature). Given this and the previous point about Ripply1 overexpression, I am not convinced that Ripply1 regulates endodermal genes. The existing data could be made somewhat more convincing by showing the tracks for other genes as positive and negative controls, given that Ripply1 has known muscle targets (how does its binding look at those targets in comparison) and there should be a number of Nodal target genes that Ripply1 does not bind to that could be used as negative controls. Overall this experiment doesn't seem to be of high enough quality to drive the conclusion that Ripply1 directly binds near sox17 and sox32 and from the data presented in the manuscript looks as if it failed technically.
(5) "Cooperatively Gsc and ripply1 regulate": I suggest avoiding the term "cooperative," when describing the relationship between Ripply1 and Gsc regulation of PP and anterior endoderm - it evokes the concept of cooperative gene regulation, which implies that these factors interact with each biochemically in order to bind to the DNA. This is not supported by the data in this manuscript, and is especially confusing since Ripply1 is thought to require cooperative binding with a T-box family transcription factor to direct its binding to the DNA.
(6) SWI/SNF: The differential expression of srcap doesn't seem very remarkable. The dot plots in the supplement S7H don't help - they seem to show no expression at all in the endoderm, which is clearly a distortion of the data, since from the violin plots it's obviously expressed and the dot-size scale only ranges from ~30-38%. Please add to the figure information about fold-change and p-value for the differential expression. Publicly available scRNAseq databases show scrap is expressed throughout the entire early embryo, suggesting that it would be surprising for it to have differential activity in these two cell types and thereby contribute to their separate specification during development. It seems equally possible that this just mildly influences the level of Nodal or FGF signaling, which would create this effect.
The multiome data seems like a valuable data set for researchers interested in this stage of zebrafish development. However, the presentation of the data doesn't make many conclusions, aside from identifying an element adjacent to ripply1 whose chromatin is open in prechordal plate cells and not endodermal cells and showing that there are a number of loci with differential accessibility between these cell types. That seems fairly expected since both cell types have several differentially expressed transcriptional regulators (for instance, ripply1 has previously been demonstrated in multiple studies to be specific to the prechordal plate during blastula stages). The manuscript implies that SWI/SNF remodeling by Srcap is responsible for the chromatin accessibility differences between these cell types, but that has not actually been tested. It seems more likely that the differences in chromatin accessibility observed are a result of transcription factors binding downstream of Nodal signaling.
Minor issues:
Figure 2 E-F: It's not clear which cells from E are quantitated in F. For instance, the dorsal forerunner cells are likely to behave very differently from other endodermal progenitors in this assay. It would be helpful to indicate which cells are analyzed in Fig F with an outline or other indicator of some kind. Or - if both DFCs and endodermal cells are included in F, to perhaps use different colors for their points to help indicate if their fluorescence changes differently.
Fig 3 J: Should the reference be Dubrulle et al 2015, rather than Julien et al?
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Summary:
The authors wanted to identify genes that are critical for regulating the asymmetric fates of limbal stem cells and their transit amplified progeny in the central cornea. To this end, they utilized an in vivo cell cycle reporter to isolate proliferating basal cells from the anterior ocular surface epithelium and performed single-cell RNA-seq. This strategy revealed distinct basal cell identities with unique expression profiles of structural genes and transcription factors. The authors then focused on the Sox9 transcription factor implicated in stem cell regulation. It was differentially expressed between limbal stem cells and their progeny in the central cornea. Lineage tracing analysis confirmed that Sox9 marks long-lived limbal stem cells. Conditional deletion of Sox9 led to abnormal differentiation and squamous metaplasia in the central cornea. The authors suggest that Sox9 is required for the switch to asymmetric fate and commitment toward differentiation, as transit cells exit the limbal niche. By inhibiting the terminal differentiation of corneal progenitors and forcing them into continuous symmetric divisions, the Sox9 loss-of-function phenotype was replicated.
Strengths:
Thus, the paper shows the important role of Sox9 in the spatial regulation of asymmetric fate in the corneal epithelium and its proliferation and cell differentiation. The work is elegantly done using several models that converge on the main conclusions. It is very novel and delineates a new player in determining corneal epithelial cell fate. The experiments are well done, and the data are credible.
Weaknesses:
This reviewer has some minor concerns mostly related to data interpretation and the use of the LSC term.
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Summary, strengths, and weaknesses:
This article by Rice et al focuses on the study of limbal epithelial stem cells (LESCs). To obtain high resolution of stem/progenitor cell populations by single-cell RNA sequencing (scRNA-seq), the authors enriched the stem/progenitors by capturing GFP+ epithelial cells undergoing mitosis using the Cyclin-B-GFP transgene. The key novelty in the paper is that they identified Sox9 as a new LSC gene that is important for the health of the cornea. They show that Sox9 is expressed by LSCs at the mRNA and protein level, and that the Sox9-GFP transgene is useful to identify LSCs in live animals. They performed lineage tracing of Sox9-Cre mice that clearly demonstrated that Sox9+ cells are true LSCs. Further, Sox9-knockouts display severe opacification of the cornea, accompanied by the transformation of the central cornea into hyperplastic epidermis - a phenotype similar to previously described Notch1 conditional knockout (cKO). By studying the lifetimes of Notch dominant-negative transgenic individual basal corneal epithelial cells, they suggest that the thickening of the central zone in the Notch model is due to the loss of asymmetric division, and from that, they infer the phenotype of the Sox2-KO. In other words, it is suggested that the increased rate and type of division in the central Sox9-null cornea produce this dramatic epithelial thickening phenotype. This claim makes sense but suggests a role for the Notch, not Sox9, and this role is relevant for the central corneal epithelial cells, and not in LESCs. So I suggest considering revising the conclusions (title of the paper) on this aspect. This would not affect the impact of the paper.
In general, I believe that this is a very interesting and novel study that will be of interest to a broad readership. The methodology and study design are robust and elegant.
However, in some cases, typos, text modifications, additional controls, and new experiments are suggested.
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In this manuscript, Fuchsberger et al. demonstrate a set of experiments that ultimately identifies the de novo synthesis of GluA1-, but not GluA2-containing Ca2+ permeable AMPA receptors as a key driver of dopamine-dependent LTP (DA-LTP) during conventional post-before-pre spike-timing dependent (t-LTD) induction. The authors further identify adenylate cyclase 1/8, cAMP, and PKA as the crucial mitigators of these actions. While some comments have been identified below, the experiments presented are thorough and address the aims of the manuscript, figures are presented clearly (with minor comments), and experimental sample sizes and statistical analyses are suitable. Suitable controls have been utilized to confirm the role of Ca2+ permeable AMPAR. This work provides a valuable step forward built on convincing data toward understanding the underlying mechanisms of spike-timing-dependent plasticity and dopamine.
Strengths:
Appropriate controls were used.
The flow of data presented is logical and easy to follow.
The quality of the data, except for a few minor issues, is solid.
Weaknesses:
The drug treatment duration of anisomycin is longer than the standard 30-45 minute duration (as is the 500uM vs 40uM concentration) typically used in the field. Given the toxicity of these kinds of drugs long term it's unclear why the authors used such a long and intense drug treatment.
With some of the normalizations (such as those in S1) there are dramatic differences in the baseline "untreated" puromycin intensities - raising some questions about the overall health of slices used in the experiments.
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Summary:
The aim was to identify the mechanisms that underlie a form of long-term potentiation (LTP) that requires the activation of dopamine (DA).
Strengths:
The authors have provided multiple lines of evidence that support their conclusions; namely that this pathway involves the activation of a cAMP / PKA pathway that leads to the insertion of calcium-permeable AMPA receptors.
Weaknesses:
Some of the experiments could have been conducted in a more convincing manner.
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Reviewer #3 (Public Review):
The manuscript of Fuchsberger et al. investigates the cellular mechanisms underlying dopamine-dependent long-term potentiation (DA-LTP) in mouse hippocampal CA1 neurons. The authors conducted a series of experiments to measure the effect of dopamine on the protein synthesis rate in hippocampal neurons and its role in enabling DA-LTP. The key results indicate that protein synthesis is increased in response to dopamine and neuronal activity in the pyramidal neurons of the CA1 hippocampal area, mediated via the activation of adenylate cyclases subtypes 1 and 8 (AC1/8) and the cAMP-dependent protein kinase (PKA) pathway. Additionally, the authors show that postsynaptic DA-induced increases in protein synthesis are required to express DA-LTP, while not required for conventional t-LTP.
The increased expression of the newly synthesized GluA1 receptor subunit in response to DA supports the formation of homomeric calcium-permeable AMPA receptors (CP-AMPARs). This evidence aligns well with data showing that DA-LTP expression requires the GluA1 AMPA subunit and CP-AMPARs, as DA-LTP is absent in the hippocampus of a GluA1 genetic knock-out mouse model. Overall, the study is solid, and the evidence provided is compelling. The authors clearly and concisely explain the research objectives, methodologies, and findings. The study is scientifically robust, and the writing is engaging. The authors' conclusions and interpretation of the results are insightful and align well with the literature. The discussion effectively places the findings in a meaningful context, highlighting a possible mechanism for dopamine's role in the modulation of protein-synthesis-dependent hippocampal synaptic plasticity and its implications for the field. Although the study expands on previous works from the same laboratory, the findings are novel and provide valuable insights into the dynamics governing hippocampal synaptic plasticity.
The claim that GluA1 homomeric CP-AMPA receptors mediate the expression of DA-LTP is fascinating, and although the electrophysiology data on GluA1 knock-out mice are convincing, more evidence is needed to support this hypothesis. Western blotting provides useful information on the expression level of GluA1, which is not necessarily associated with cell surface expression of GluA1 and therefore CP-AMPARs. Validating this hypothesis by localizing the protein using immunofluorescence and confocal microscopy detection could strengthen the claim. The authors should briefly discuss the limitations of the study.
Additional comments to address:
(1) In Figure 2A, the representative image with PMY alone shows a very weak PMY signal. Consequently, the image with TTX alone seems to potentiate the PMY signal, suggesting a counterintuitive increase in protein synthesis.
(2) In Figures 3A-B, the Western blotting representative images have poor quality, especially regarding GluA1 and α-actin in Figure 3A. The quantification graph (Figure 3B) raises some concerns about a potential outlier in both the DA alone and DA+CHX groups. The authors should consider running a statistical test to detect outlier data. Full blot images, including ladder lines, should be added to the supplementary data.
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The authors are attempting to use the internal workings of a language hierarchy model, comprising phonemes, syllables, words, phrases, and sentences, as regressors to predict EEG recorded during listening to speech. They also use standard acoustic features as regressors, such as the overall envelope and the envelopes in log-spaced frequency bands. This is valuable and timely research, including the attempt to show differences between normal-hearing and hearing-impaired people in these regards.
I will start with a couple of broader questions/points, and then focus my comments on three aspects of this study: The HM-LSTM language model and its usage, the time windows of relevant EEG analysis, and the usage of ridge regression.
Firstly, as far as I can tell, the OSF repository of code, data, and stimuli is not accessible without requesting access. This needs to be changed so that reviewers and anybody who wants or needs to can access these materials.
What is the quantification of model fit? Does it mean that you generate predicted EEG time series from deconvolved TRFs, and then give the R2 coefficient of determination between the actual EEG and predicted EEG constructed from the convolution of TRFs and regressors? Whether or not this is exactly right, it should be made more explicit.
About the HM-LSTM:
• In the Methods paragraph about the HM-LSTM, a lot more detail is necessary to understand how you are using this model. Firstly, what do you mean that you "extended" it, and what was that procedure? And generally, this is the model that produces most of the "features", or regressors, whichever word we like, for the TRF deconvolution and EEG prediction, correct? A lot more detail is necessary then, about what form these regressors take, and some example plots of the regressors alongside the sentences.<br /> • Generally, it is necessary to know what these regressors look like compared to other similar language-related TRF and EEG/MEG prediction studies. Usually, in the case of e.g. Lalor lab papers or Simon lab papers, these regressors take the form of single-sample event markers, surrounded by zeros elsewhere. For example, a phoneme regressor might have a sample up at the onset of each phoneme, and a word onset regressor might have a sample up at the onset of each word, with zeros elsewhere in the regressor. A phoneme surprisal regressor might have a sample up at each phoneme onset, with the value of that sample corresponding to the rarity of that phoneme in common speech. Etc. Are these regressors like that? Or do they code for these 5 linguistic levels in some other way? Either way, much more description and plotting is necessary in order to compare the results here to others in the literature.<br /> • You say that the 5 regressors that are taken from the trained model's hidden layers do not have much correlation with each other. However, the highest correlations are between syllable and sentence (0.22), and syllable and word (0.17). It is necessary to give some reason and interpretation of these numbers. One would think the highest correlation might be between syllable and phoneme, but this one is almost zero. Why would the syllable and sentence regressors have such a relatively high correlation with each other, and what form do those regressors take such that this is the case?<br /> • If these regressors are something like the time series of zeros along with single sample event markers as described above, with the event marker samples indicating the onset of the relevant thing, then one would think e.g. the syllable regressor would be a subset of the phoneme regressor because the onset of every syllable is a phoneme. And the onset of every word is a syllable, etc.
For the time windows of analysis:
• I am very confused, because sometimes the times are relative to "sentence onset", which would mean the beginning of sentences, and sometimes they are relative to "sentence offset", which would mean the end of sentences. It seems to vary which is mentioned. Did you use sentence onsets, offsets, or both, and what is the motivation?<br /> • If you used onsets, then the results at negative times would not seem to mean anything, because that would be during silence unless the stimulus sentences were all back to back with no gaps, which would also make that difficult to interpret.<br /> • If you used offsets, then the results at positive times would not seem to mean anything, because that would be during silence after the sentence is done. Unless you want to interpret those as important brain activity after the stimuli are done, in which case a detailed discussion of this is warranted.<br /> • For the plots in the figures where the time windows and their regression outcomes are shown, it needs to be explicitly stated every time whether those time windows are relative to sentence onset, offset, or something else.<br /> • Whether the running correlations are relative to sentence onset or offset, the fact that you can have numbers outside of the time of the sentence (negative times for onset, or positive times for offset) is highly confusing. Why would the regressors have values outside of the sentence, meaning before or after the sentence/utterance? In order to get the running correlations, you presumably had the regressor convolved with the TRF/impulse response to get the predicted EEG first. In order to get running correlation values outside the sentence to correlate with the EEG, you would have to have regressor values at those time points, correct? How does this work?<br /> • In general, it seems arbitrary to choose sentence onset or offset, especially if the comparison is the correlation between predicted and actual EEG over the course of a sentence, with each regressor. What is going on with these correlations during the middle of the sentences, for example? In ridge regression TRF techniques for EEG/MEG, the relevant measure is often the overall correlation between the predicted and actual, calculated over a longer period of time, maybe the entire experiment. Here, you have calculated a running comparison between predicted and actual, and thus the time windows you choose to actually analyze can seem highly cherry-picked, because this means that most of the data is not actually analyzed.<br /> • In figures 5 and 6, some of the time window portions that are highlighted as significant between the two lines have the lines intersecting. This looks like, even though you have found that the two lines are significantly different during that period of time, the difference between those lines is not of a constant sign, even during that short period. For instance, in figure 5, for the syllable feature, the period of 0 - 200 ms is significantly different between the two populations, correct? But between 0 and 50, normal-hearing are higher, between 50 and 150, hearing-impaired are higher, and between 150 and 200, normal-hearing are higher again, correct? But somehow they still end up significantly different overall between 0 and 200 ms. More explanation of occurrences like these is needed.
Using ridge regression:
• What software package(s) and procedure(s) were specifically done to accomplish this? If this is ridge regression and not just ordinary least squares, then there was at least one non-zero regularization parameter in the process. What was it, how did it figure in the modeling and analysis, etc.?<br /> • It sounds like the regressors are the hidden layer activations, which you reduced from 2,048 to 150 non-acoustic, or linguistic, regressors, per linguistic level, correct? So you have 150 regressors, for each of 5 linguistic levels. These regressors collectively contribute to the deconvolution and EEG prediction from the resulting TRFs, correct? This sounds like a lot of overfitting. How much correlation is there from one of these 150 regressors to the next? Elsewhere, it sounds like you end up with only one regressor for each of the 5 linguistic levels. So these aspects need to be clarified.<br /> • For these regressors, you are comparing the "regression outcomes" for different conditions; "regression outcomes" are the R2 between predicted and actual EEG, which is the coefficient of determination, correct? If this is R2, how is it that you have some negative numbers in some of the plots? R2 should be only positive, between 0 and 1.
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Reviewer #2 (Public Review):
This study compares neural responses to speech in normal-hearing and hearing-impaired listeners, investigating how different levels of the linguistic hierarchy are impacted across the two cohorts, both in a single-talker and multi-talker listening scenario. It finds that, while normal-hearing listeners have a comparable cortical encoding of speech-in-quiet and attended speech from a multi-talker mixture, participants with hearing impairment instead show a reduced cortical encoding of speech when it is presented in a competing listening scenario. When looking across the different levels of the speech processing hierarchy in the multi-talker condition, normal-hearing participants show a greater cortical encoding of the attended compared to the unattended stream in all speech processing layers - from acoustics to sentence-level information. Hearing-impaired listeners, on the other hand, only have increased cortical responses to the attended stream for the word and phrase levels, while all other levels do not differ between attended and unattended streams.<br /> The methods for modelling the hierarchy of speech features (HM-LSTM) and the relationship between brain responses and specific speech features (ridge-regression) are appropriate for the research question, with some caveats on the experimental procedure. This work offers an interesting insight into the neural encoding of multi-talker speech in listeners with hearing impairment, and it represents a useful contribution towards understanding speech perception in cocktail-party scenarios across different hearing abilities. While the conclusions are overall supported by the data, there are limitations and certain aspects that require further clarification.<br /> (1) In the multi-talker section of the experiment, participants were instructed to selectively attend to the male or the female talker, and to rate the intelligibility, but they did not have to perform any behavioural task (e.g., comprehension questions, word detection or repetition), which could have demonstrated at least an attempt to comply with the task instructions. As such, it is difficult to determine whether the lack of increased cortical encoding of Attended vs. Unattended speech across many speech features in hearing-impaired listeners is due to a different attentional strategy, which might be more oriented at "getting the gist" of the story (as the increased tracking of only word and phrase levels might suggest), or instead it is due to hearing-impaired listeners completely disengaging from the task and tuning back in for selected key-words or word combinations. Especially the lack of Attended vs. Unattended cortical benefit at the level of acoustics is puzzling and might indicate difficulties in performing the task. I think this caveat is important and should be highlighted in the Discussion section.<br /> (2) In the EEG recording and preprocessing section, you state that the EEG was filtered between 0.1Hz and 45Hz. Why did you choose this very broadband frequency range? In the literature, speech responses are robustly identified between 0.5Hz/1Hz and 8Hz. Would these results emerge using a narrower and lower frequency band? Considering the goal of your study, it might also be interesting to run your analysis pipeline on conventional frequency bands, such as Delta and Theta, since you are looking into the processing of information at different temporal scales.<br /> (3) A paragraph with more information on the HM-LSTM would be useful to understand the model used without relying on the Chung et al. (2017) paper. In particular, I think the updating mechanism of the model should be clarified. It would also be interesting to modify the updating factor of the model, along the lines of Schmitt et al. (2021), to assess whether a HM-LSTM with faster or slower updates can better describe the neural activity of hearing-impaired listeners. That is, perhaps the difference between hearing-impaired and normal-hearing participants lies in the temporal dynamics, and not necessarily in a completely different attentional strategy (or disengagement from the stimuli, as I mentioned above).<br /> (4) When explaining how you extracted phoneme information, you mention that "the inputs to the model were the vector representations of the phonemes". It is not clear to me whether you extracted specific phonetic features (e.g., "p" sound vs. "b" sound), or simply the phoneme onsets. Could you clarify this point in the text, please?
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Reviewer #3 (Public Review):
Summary:<br /> The authors aimed to investigate how the brain processes different linguistic units (from phonemes to sentences) in challenging listening conditions, such as multi-talker environments, and how this processing differs between individuals with normal hearing and those with hearing impairments. Using a hierarchical language model and EEG data, they sought to understand the neural underpinnings of speech comprehension at various temporal scales and identify specific challenges that hearing-impaired listeners face in noisy settings.
Strengths:<br /> Overall, the combination of computational modeling, detailed EEG analysis, and comprehensive experimental design thoroughly investigates the neural mechanisms underlying speech comprehension in complex auditory environments.
The use of a hierarchical language model (HM-LSTM) offers a data-driven approach to dissect and analyze linguistic information at multiple temporal scales (phoneme, syllable, word, phrase, and sentence). This model allows for a comprehensive neural encoding examination of how different levels of linguistic processing are represented in the brain.
The study includes both single-talker and multi-talker conditions, as well as participants with normal hearing and those with hearing impairments. This design provides a robust framework for comparing neural processing across different listening scenarios and groups.
Weaknesses:<br /> The analyses heavily rely on one specific computational model, which limits the robustness of the findings. The use of a single DNN-based hierarchical model to represent linguistic information, while innovative, may not capture the full range of neural coding present in different populations. A low-accuracy regression model-fit does not necessarily indicate the absence of neural coding for a specific type of information. The DNN model represents information in a manner constrained by its architecture and training objectives, which might fit one population better than another without proving the non-existence of such information in the other group. To address this limitation, the authors should consider evaluating alternative models and methods. For example, directly using spectrograms, discrete phoneme/syllable/word coding as features, and performing feature-based temporal response function (TRF) analysis could serve as valuable baseline models. This approach would provide a more comprehensive evaluation of the neural encoding of linguistic information.
It is not entirely clear if the DNN model used in this study effectively serves the authors' goal of capturing different linguistic information at various layers. Specifically, the results presented in Figure 3C are somewhat confusing. While the phonemes are labeled, the syllables, words, phrases, and sentences are not, making it difficult to interpret how the model distinguishes between these levels of linguistic information. The claim that "Hidden-layer activity for same-vowel sentences exhibited much more similar distributions at the phoneme and syllable levels compared to those at the word, phrase and sentence levels" is not convincingly supported by the provided visualizations. To strengthen their argument, the authors should use more quantified metrics to demonstrate that the model indeed captures phrase, word, syllable, and phoneme information at different layers. This is a crucial prerequisite for the subsequent analyses and claims about the hierarchical processing of linguistic information in the brain. Quantitative measures such as mutual information, clustering metrics, or decoding accuracy for each linguistic level could provide clearer evidence of the model's effectiveness in this regard.
The formulation of the regression analysis is somewhat unclear. The choice of sentence offsets as the anchor point for the temporal analysis, and the focus on the [-100ms, +300ms] interval, needs further justification. Since EEG measures underlying neural activity in near real-time, it is expected that lower-level acoustic information, which is relatively transient, such as phonemes and syllables, would be distributed throughout the time course of the entire sentence. It is not evident if this limited time window effectively captures the neural responses to the entire sentence, especially for lower-level linguistic features. A more comprehensive analysis covering the entire time course of the sentence, or at least a longer temporal window, would provide a clearer understanding of how different linguistic units are processed over time. Additionally, explaining the rationale behind choosing this specific time window and how it aligns with the temporal dynamics of speech processing would enhance the clarity and validity of the regression analysis.
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Summary:
Cells cultured in high glucose tend to repress mitochondrial biogenesis and activity, a prevailing phenotype type called Crabtree effect that observed in different cell types and cancer. Many signaling pathways have been put forward to explain this effect. Vengayil et al proposed a new mechanism involved in Ubp3/Ubp10 and phosphate that controls the glucose repression of mitochondria. The central hypothesis is that ∆ubp3 shift the glycolysis to trehalose synthesis, therefore lead to the increase of Pi availability in the cytosol, then mitochondrial received more Pi and therefore the glucose repression is reduced.
Strengths:
The strength is that the authors used an array of different assays to test their hypothesis. Most assays were well-designed and controlled.
Weaknesses:
The author addressed my major concerns.
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The objective of this study was to further our understanding of the brain mechanisms associated with facial expressions of pain. To achieve this, participants' facial expressions and brain activity were recorded while they received noxious heat stimulation. The authors then used a decoding approach to predict facial expressions from functional magnetic resonance imaging (fMRI) data. They found a distinctive brain signature for pain facial expressions (FEPS). This signature had minimal overlap with brain signatures reflecting other components of pain phenomenology, such as signatures reflecting subjective pain intensity or negative effects.
Strength.
The authors used a rigorous approach involving multivariate brain decoding to predict the occurrence and intensity of pain facial expressions during noxious heat stimulation. The analyses are solid and well-conducted. This is an important study of fundamental and clinical relevance.
Weakness.
Despite those major strengths, the main weakness of the study is that the design and analyses do not allow us to know if the FEPS is really specific to pain expressions. Based on the analysis, it is possible to conclude that this brain signature is present when a participant is in a state of pain and displays a facial expression. However, it is possible that it would also be present when a participant experiences (another) negative state and displays (another) facial expression. It will be important, in future work, to investigate the specificity of this brain signature.
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Reviewer #3 (Public Review):
In this manuscript, Picard et al. propose a Facial Expression Pain Signature (FEPS) as a distinctive marker of pain processing in the brain. Specifically, they attempt to use functional magnetic resonance imaging (fMRI) data to predict facial expressions associated with painful heat stimulation.
The main strengths of the manuscript are that it is built on an extensive foundation of work from the research group, and that experience can be observed in the analysis of fMRI data and the development of the machine learning model. Additionally, it provides a comparative account of the similarities of the FEPS with other proposed pain signatures. The main weaknesses of the manuscript are the absence of a proper control condition to assess the specificity of the facial pain expressions, as well as several limitations in the experimental setup.
I believe that the authors partially succeed in their aims, as described in the introduction, which are to assess the association between pain facial expression and existing pain-relevant brain signatures, and to develop a predictive brain activation model of the facial responses to painful thermal stimulation. However, they list several limitations in the study that should be addressed in future research in order to establish whether FEPS truly conveys distinctive information about the brain response to nociceptive stimuli.
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Reviewer #1 (Public Review):
Summary:
This manuscript investigates the regulation of chlorophyll biosynthesis in rice embryos, focusing on the role of OsNF-YB7. The rigorous experimental approach, combining genetic, biochemical, and molecular analyses, provides a robust foundation for these findings. The research achieves its objectives, offering new insights into chlorophyll biosynthesis regulation, with the results convincingly supporting the authors' conclusions.
Strengths:
The major strengths include the detailed experimental design and the findings regarding OsNF-YB7's inhibitory role.
Weaknesses:
However, the manuscript's discussion on the practical implications for agriculture and the evolutionary analysis of regulatory mechanisms could be expanded.
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Summary:
The authors set out to establish the role of the rice LEC1 homolog OsNF-YB7 in embryo development, especially as it pertains to the development of photosynthetic capacity, with chlorophyll production as a primary focus.
Strengths:
The results are well-supported and each approach used complements each other. There are no major questions left unanswered and the central hypothesis is addressed in every figure.
Weaknesses:
There are a handful of sections which could use clarifying for readers, but overall this is a solidly composed manuscript.
The authors clearly achieved their aims; the results compellingly establish a disparity between how this system operates in rice and Arabidopsis. Conclusions are thoroughly supported by the provided data and interpretations. This work will force a reconsideration of the value of Arabidopsis as a model organism for embryo chlorophyll biosynthesis and possibly photosynthesis during embryo maturation more broadly, as rice is a major crop organism and it very clearly does not follow the Arabidopsis model. It will thus be useful to carry out similar tests in other organisms rather than relying on Arabidopsis and attempt to more fully establish the regulatory mechanism in rice.
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Reviewer #3 (Public Review):
Summary:
In this study, the authors set out to understand the mechanisms behind chlorophyll biosynthesis in rice, focusing in particular on the role of OsNF-YB7, an ortholog of Arabidopsis LEC1, which is a positive regulator of chlorophyll (Chl) biosynthesis in Arabidopsis. They showed that OsNF-YB7 loss-of-function mutants in rice have chlorophyll-rich embryos, in contrast to Arabidopsis LEC1 loss-of-function mutants. This contrasting phenotype led the authors to carry out extensive molecular studies on OsNF-YB7, including in vitro and in vivo protein interaction studies, gene expression profiling and protein-DNA interaction assays. The evidence provided well supported the core arguments of the authors, emphasising that OsNF-YB7 is a negative regulator of Chl biosynthesis in rice embryos by mediating the expression of OsGLK1, a transcription factor that regulates downstream Chl biosynthesis genes. In addition, they showed that OsNF-YB7 interacts with OsGLK1 to negatively regulate the expression of OsGLK1, demonstrating the broad involvement of OsNF-YB7 in rice Chl biosynthetic pathways.
Strengths:
This study clearly demonstrated how OsNF-YB7 regulates its downstream pathways using several in vitro and in vivo approaches. For example, gene expression analysis of OsNF-YB7 loss-of-function and gain-of-function mutants revealed the expression of selected downstream chl biosynthetic genes. This was further validated by EMSA on the gel. The authors also confirmed this using luciferase assays in rice protoplasts. These approaches were used again to show how the interaction of OsNF-YB7 and OsGLK1 regulates downstream genes. The main idea of this study is very well supported by the results and data.
Weaknesses:
It would be interesting to see how two similar genes have come to play opposite roles in Arabidopsis and rice. Interspecies complementation might help to understand this point.
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Kundu et al. investigated the effects of pre-exposure to a non-pathogenic Leptospira strain in prevention of severe disease following subsequent infection by a pathogenic strain. They utilized a single or double exposure method to the non-pathogen prior to challenge with a pathogenic strain. They found that prior exposure to a non-pathogen prevented many of the disease manifestations of the pathogen. Bacteria, however, were able to disseminate, colonize the kidneys, and be shed in the urine. This is important foundational work to describe a novel method of vaccination against leptospirosis. Numerous studies have attempted to use recombinant proteins to vaccinate against leptospirosis, with limited success. The authors provide a new approach that takes advantage of the homology between a non-pathogen and a pathogen to provide heterologous protection. This will provide a new direction in which we can approach creating vaccines against this re-emerging disease.
Strengths:
The major strength of this paper is that it is one of the first studies utilizing a live non-pathogenic strain of Leptospira to immunize against severe disease associated with leptospirosis. They utilize two independent experiments (a single and double vaccination) to define this strategy. This represents a very interesting and novel approach to vaccine development. This is of clear importance to the field.
The authors use a variety of experiments to show the protection imparted by pre-exposure to the non-pathogen. They look at disease manifestations such as death and weight loss. They define the ability of Leptospira to disseminate and colonize the kidney. They show the effects infection has on kidney architecture and a marker of fibrosis. And they begin to define the immune response in both of these exposure methods. This provides evidence of the numerous advantages this vaccination strategy may have. Thus, this study provides an important foundation for future studies utilizing this method to protect against leptospirosis.
Weaknesses:
A direct comparison between single and double exposure to the non-pathogen is not possible with the data presented. The ages of mice infected were different between the single (8 weeks) and double (10 weeks) exposure methods, thus the phenotypes associated with LIC infection are different at these two ages. The authors state that this is expected, but do not provide a reasoning for this drastic difference in phenotypes. It cannot be determined if double-vaccination would provide an additional benefit, which is of importance to future work developing any vaccine treatment. An experiment directly comparing the two exposure methods while infecting mice at the same age would be of great relevance to and strengthen this work.
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The "optorepressilator", an optically controllable genetic oscillator based on the famous E. coli 3-repressor (LacI, TetR, CI) oscillator "repressilator", was developed. An individual repressilator shows a stable oscillation of the protein levels with a relatively long period that extends a few doubling times of E. coli, but when many cells oscillate, their phases tend to desynchronize. The authors introduced an additional optically controllable promoter through a conformal change of CcaS protein and let it control how much additional CI is produced. By tightly controlling the leak from the added promoter, the authors successfully kept the original repressilator oscillation when the added promoter was not activated. In contrast, the oscillation was stopped by expressing the additional CI. Using this system, the authors showed that it is possible to synchronise the phase of the oscillation, especially when the activation happens as a short pulse at the right phase of the repressilator oscillation. The authors further show that, by changing the frequency of the short pulses, the repressilator was entrained to various ratios to the pulse period, and the author could reconstruct the so-called "Arnold tongues", the signature of entrainment of the nonlinear oscillator to externally added periodic perturbation. The behaviour is consistent with the simplified mathematical model that simulates the protein concentration using ordinary differential equations.
Strengths:
Optical control of the oscillation of the protein clock is a powerful and clean tool for studying the synthetic oscillator's response to perturbation in a well-controlled and tunable manner. The article utilizes the plate reader setup for population average measurements and the mother machine setup for single-cell measurements, and they complement nicely to acquire necessary information.
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Reviewer #2 (Public Review):
Summary:
In this manuscript by Cannarsa et. al., the authors describe the engineering of a light-entrainable synthetic biological oscillator in bacteria. It is based on an upgraded version of one of the first synthetic circuits to be constructed, the repressilator. The authors sought to make this oscillator entrainable by an external forcing signal, analogous to the way natural biological oscillators (like the circadian clock) are synchronized. They reasoned that an optogenetic system would provide a convenient and flexible means of manipulation. To this end, the authors exploited the CcaS-CcaA light-switchable system, which allows activation and deactivation of transcription by green and red light, respectively. They used this system to make the expression of one of the repressilator's transcription factors (lacI) light-controlled, from a construct separated from the main repressilator plasmid. This way, under red light the oscillator runs freely, but exposure to green light causes overexpression of the lacI, pushing the system into a specific state. Consequently, returning to red light will restore the oscillations from the same phase in all cells, effectively synchronizing the cell population.
After demonstrating the functionality of the basic concept, the authors combined modeling and experiments to show how periodic exposure to green light enables efficient entrainment, and how the frequency of the forcing signal affects the oscillatory behavior (detuning).
This work provides an important demonstration of engineering tunability into a foundational genetic circuit, expands the synthetic biology toolbox, and provides a platform to address critical questions about synchronization in biological oscillators. Due to the flexibility of the experimental system, it is also expected to provide a fertile ground for future testing of theoretical predictions regarding non-linear oscillators.
Strengths:
* The study provides a simple and elegant mechanism for the entertainment of a synthetic oscillator. The design relies on optogenetic proteins, which enable efficient experimentation compared to alternative approaches (like using chemical inducers). This way, a static culture (without microfluidics or change of growth media) can be easily exposed to flexible temporal sequences of the zeitgeber, and continuously measured through time.
* The study makes use of both plate-reader-based population-level readout and mother-machine single-cell measurements. Synchronization through entrainment is a single cell level phenomenon, but with a clear population-level manifestation. Thus, this experimental approach combination provides a strong validation to their system. At the same time, differences between the readout from the two systems have emerged, and provided a further opportunity for model refinement and testing.
* The authors correctly identified the main optimization goal, namely the effective leakiness of their construct even under red light. Then, they successfully overcame this issue using synthetic biology approaches.
* The work is supported by a simplified model of the repressilator, which provides a convenient analytical and numerical means to draw testable predictions. The model predictions are well aligned with the experimental evidence.
Weaknesses:
* Even after optimizing the expression level of the light-sensitive gene, the system is very sensitive, i.e., a very short exposure is sufficient to elicit the strongest entertainment. This limited dynamic range might hamper some model testing and future usage.
* As a result of the previous point, the system is entrained by transiently "breaking" the oscillator: each pulse of green light represents a Hopf bifurcation into a single attractor. it means that the system cannot oscillate in constant green light. In comparison, this is generally not the case for natural zeitgebers like light and temperature for the circadian rhythms. Extreme values might prevent oscillations (not necessarily due to breaking the core oscillator), but usually, free running is possible in a wide range of constant conditions. In some cases, the free-running period length will vary as a function of the constant value.
While the approach presented in this manuscript is valid, a comprehensive analysis of more subtle modes of repressilator entrainment could also be of value.
* The entire work makes use of a single intensity and single duration of the green pulse to force entrainment. While the model has clear predictions for how different modalities should affect entrainment, more experiments are needed to validate those predictions.
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Reviewer #1 (Public Review):
Summary:
The authors use a combination of biochemistry and cryo-EM studies to explore a complex between the cap binding complex and an RNA binding protein, ALYREF, that coordinates mRNA processing and export.
Strengths:
The biochemistry and structural biology are supported by mutagenesis that tests the model in vitro. The structure provides new insight into how key events in RNA processing and export are likely to be coordinated.
Weaknesses:
The authors provide biochemical studies to confirm the interactions that they identify; however, they do not perform any studies to test these models in cells or explore the consequences for mRNA export from the nucleus. In fact, several of the amino acids that they identified in ALYREF that are critical for the interaction, as determined by their own biochemical studies are conserved in budding yeast Yra1 (residues E124/E128 are E/Q in budding yeast and residues Y135/V138/P139 are F/S/P), where the impact on poly(A) RNA export from the nucleus could be readily evaluated. The authors mention the potential for future studies in the manuscript, but they do not perform any analysis in this study that would explore the contributions of these new interactions.
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Reviewer #2 (Public Review):
Summary:
In this manuscript, Bradley and his colleagues represented the cryo-EM structure of the nuclear cap-binding complex (CBC) in complex with an mRNA export factor, ALYREF, providing a structural basis for understanding CBC regulating gene expression.
Strengths:
The authors successfully modeled the N-terminal region and the RRM domain of ALYREF (residues 1-183) within the CBC-ALYREF structure, which revealed that both the NCBP1 and NCBP2 subunits of the CBC interact with the RBM domain of ALYREF. Further mutagenesis and pull-down studies provided additional evidence to the observed CBC-ALYREF interface. Additionally, the authors engaged in a comprehensive discussion regarding other cellular complexes containing CBC and/or ALYREF components. They proposed potential models that elucidated coordinated events during mRNA maturation. This study provided structural evidence to show how CBC effectively recruits mRNA export factor machinery, enhancing our understanding of CBC regulating gene expression during mRNA transcription, splicing, and export.
Weaknesses:
Absence of functional data to support the proposed models in this study.
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Reviewer #3 (Public Review):
Summary:
The authors carried out structural and biochemical studies to investigate the multiple functions of CBC and ALYREF in RNA metabolism.
Strengths:
For the structural study part, the authors successfully revealed how NCBP1 and NCBP2 subunits interact with mALYREF (residues 1-155). Their binding interface was then confirmed by biochemical assays (mutagenesis and pull-down assays) presented in this study.
Weaknesses:
The model derived from the cryo-EM structure will likely need to be validated in future functional studies.
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This study provides the detailed molecular mechanism of how OGT, an O-GlcNac transferase, promotes cancer progression. Using loss-of-function OGT models, the authors demonstrated that OGT cleaves HCF-1, an important guardian of genomic stability. The resulting genomic instability in OGT-knockout tumors leads to cytosolic DNA accumulation, the activation of cGAS-mediated type I IFN responses, and increased CD8+ T cell infiltration into the tumors. Moreover, treatment with OGT inhibitor synergized with anti-PDL1 immune-checkpoint blockade.
Strengths:
Novel findings of how OGT promotes tumor progression.
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Reviewer #2 (Public Review):
Summary:
In this study, the author demonstrates that deficiency or pharmacological inhibition of O-glcNac transferase (OGT) enhances tumor immunity in colorectal cancer models. The authors propose that OGT deficiency triggers a DNA damage response, activating the cGAS-STING innate immunity pathway and promoting a Type I interferon response. They suggest that OGT-mediated processing of HSF1 is crucial in maintaining genomic integrity. This research is significant as it identifies OGT inhibition as a potential immunomodulatory target in cancer treatment.
Strengths:
The strength of the paper lies primarily in the in vivo data, demonstrating the impact of OGT deficiency or inhibition on modulating tumor growth and anti-tumor immunity. The experiments are well-controlled. However, there are several unresolved questions:
Weaknesses:
The mechanisms of how OGT deficiency can trigger DNA damage and the role of this response in promoting immunity are only partially addressed in the manuscript.
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Reviewer #1 (Public Review):
The authors of this study developed a software application, which aims to identify images as either "friendly" or "unfriendly" for readers with deuteranopia, the most common color-vision deficiency. Using previously published algorithms that recolor images to approximate how they would appear to a deuteranope (someone with deuteranopia), authors first manually assessed a set of images from biology-oriented research articles published in eLife between 2012 and 2022, as well as an additional hold-out set of 2000 articles selected randomly from the PubMed Central Open Access Subset. The researchers identified 636 out of 4964 images as difficult to interpret ("unfriendly") for deuteranopes in the eLife dataset. In the PubMed Central dataset 104 out of 1191 non-grayscale images were identified as unfriendly. The results for the eLife dataset show a decrease in "unfriendly" images over time and a higher probability for articles from cell-oriented research fields to contain "unfriendly" images.
The researchers used the manually classified images from eLife to develop, train, and validate an automated screening tool. They also created a user-friendly web application of the tool, where users can upload images and be informed about the status of each image as "friendly" or "unfriendly" for deuteranopes.
Strengths:
The authors have identified an important accessibility issue in the scientific literature: the use of color combinations that make figures difficult to interpret for people with color-vision deficiency. The metrics proposed and evaluated in the study are a valuable theoretical contribution. The automated screening tool they provide is well-documented, open source, and relatively easy to install and use. It has the potential to provide a useful service to the scientists who want to make their figures more accessible. The data are open and freely accessible, well documented, and a valuable resource for further research. The manuscript is well-written, logically structured, and easy to follow.
Weaknesses:
(1) The authors themselves acknowledge the limitations that arise from the way they defined what constitutes an "unfriendly" image. There is a missed chance here to have engaged deuteranopes as stakeholders earlier in the experimental design. This would have allowed to determine to what extent spatial separation and labelling of problematic color combinations responds to their needs and whether setting the bar at a simulated severity of 80% is inclusive enough. A slightly lowered barrier is still a barrier to accessibility.
(2) The use of training images from a single journal limits the generalizability of the empirical findings as well as of the automated screening tool itself. This is evidenced by a decrease in performance of the tool on the holdout dataset from PubMed Central. Machine-learning algorithms are highly configurable but also notorious for their lack of transparency and for being easily biased by the training data set. A quick and unsystematic test of the web application shows that the classifier works well for electron microscopy images but fails at recognizing the classical diagnostic images for color-vision deficiency (Ishihara test images) as "unfriendly". A future iteration of the tool should be trained on a wider variety of images, ideally enriched with diagnostic images found in scientific publications.
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Reviewer #2 (Public Review):
Summary:
An analysis of images in the biology literature that are problematic for people with a color-vision deficiency (CVD) is presented, along with a machine learning-based model trained on an eLife dataset to identify such images and a web application that uses the model to flag problematic images. Their analysis reveals that about 13% of the images could be problematic for people with CVD and that the frequency of such images decreased over time. Their best model (convolutional neural network, CNN) yields 0.89 AUROC score and 0.77 AUPRC on held-out eLife articles, but lower scores (0.78 and 0.39, respectively). It is proposed that their approach could help making biology literature accessible to diverse audiences.
Strengths:
The manuscript focuses on an important yet mostly overlooked problem and makes contributions both in expanding our understanding of the extent of the problem and in developing solutions to mitigate the problem. The paper is generally well-written and clearly organized. Their CVD simulation combines five different metrics. The dataset has been assessed by two researchers and is likely to be of high-quality. Machine learning algorithm used (CNN) is an appropriate choice for the problem. The evaluation of various hyperparameters for the CNN model is extensive.
Weaknesses:
While the study has significant strengths, it also has some limitations. Specifically, the focus on one type of CVD (deuteranopia) and selecting images from a single journal (eLife) for training limit the generalizability of the models. This is, to some extent, shown by applying the model to PMC articles, which yields lower performance. "Probably problematic" and "probably okay" classes are excluded from the analysis.
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Reviewer #3 (Public Review):
Summary:
This work focuses on accessibility of scientific images for individuals with color vision deficiencies, particularly deuteranopia. The research involved an analysis of images from eLife and PubMed Central published in 2012-2022. The authors manually reviewed nearly 7,000 images, comparing them with simulated versions representing the perspective of individuals with deuteranopia, and also evaluated several methods to automatically detect such images including training a machine-learning algorithm to do so, which performed the best. The authors found that nearly 13% of the images could be challenging for people with deuteranopia to interpret. There was a trend toward a decrease in problematic images over time, which is encouraging.
After the first round of review, the addition of a random sample of biomedical articles in the evaluation set strengthens the generalizability of the algorithm, and the change to evaluate articles at the article level to address pseudoreplication is appropriate.
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Reviewer #1 (Public Review):
Summary:
The authors fabricated a novel cancer vaccine using endogenous virus-like particles with tumor neoantigen. The vaccine ePAC was proven to elicit strong immune stimulation with an increased killing effect against tumor cells in 2 mouse models.
Strengths:
The author achieved high protein loading and transfection efficiency using PEG10 self-assembly while packaging tumor neoantigens inside for cancer immunotherapy. The author also enhanced the targeting effect towards dendritic cells by surface modification using CpG-ODN.
Weaknesses:
There were some minor issues but they have been resolved in the revision process. It would be great if the authors could compare this with commercially available treatments and other vaccines.
Discussion:
Since the ePAC vaccine particle functions as a delivery platform, it can be tailored to different tumors when packed with their specific tumor neoantigens. Thus, the ePAC platform can be potentially employed in a broad range of cancer vaccine therapies. It would be exciting to see this platform being developed for other major cancer types.
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Reviewer #2 (Public Review):
Summary:
The authors provided a novel antigen delivery system which showed remarkable efficacy in transporting antigens to develop cancer therapeutic vaccine.
Strengths:
This manuscript was innovative, meaningful, and had a rich amount of data.
Comments on the revised version:
All my concerns have been addressed by the authors
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Reviewer #3 (Public Review):
Summary:
The authors harnessed the potential of mammalian endogenous virus-like protein to encapsulate virus-like particles (VLPs), enabling the precise delivery of tumor neoantigens. Through meticulous optimization of the VLP component ratios, they achieved remarkable stability and efficiency in delivering these crucial payloads. Moreover, the incorporation of CpG-ODN further heightened the targeted delivery efficiency and immunogenicity of the VLPs, solidifying their role as a potent tumor vaccine. In a diverse array of tumor mouse models, this novel tumor vaccine, termed ePAC, exhibited profound efficacy in activating the murine immune system. This activation manifested through the stimulation of dendritic cells in lymph nodes, the generation of effector memory T cells within the spleen, and the infiltration of neoantigen-specific T cells into tumors, resulting in robust anti-tumor responses.
Strengths:
This study delivered tumor neoantigens using VLPs, pioneering a new method for neoantigen delivery. Additionally, the gag protein of VLP is derived from mammalian endogenous virus-like protein, which offer greater safety compared to virus-derived gag proteins, thereby presenting a strong potential for clinical translation. The study also utilized a humanized mouse model to further validate the vaccine's efficacy and safety. Therefore, the anti-tumor vaccine designed in this study possesses both innovation and practicality.
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Reviewer #1 (Public Review):
Summary:
The manuscript aimed at elucidating the substrate specificity of two M23 endopeptidase Lysostaphin (LSS) and LytM in S. aureus. Endopeptidases are known to cleave the glycine-bridges of staphylococcal cell wall peptidoglycan (PG). To address this question, various glycine-bridge peptides were synthesized as substrates, the catalytic domain of LSS and LytM were recombinantly expressed and purified, and the reactions were analyzed using solution-state NMR. The major finding is that LytM is not only a Gly-Gly endopeptidase, but also cleaves D-Ala-Gly. Technically, the advantage of using real-time NMR was emphasized in the manuscript. The study explores an interesting aspect of cell wall hydrolases in terms of substrate-level regulation. It potentially identified new enzymatic activity of LytM. However, the biological significance and relevance of the conclusions remain clear, as the results are mostly from synthetic substrates.
Strengths:
The study explores an interesting aspect of cell wall hydrolases in terms of substrate-level regulation. It potentially identified new enzymatic activity of LytM.
Comments on the revised version:
The authors have addressed most of my concerns. I agree that the physiological functions of LytM are not in the scope of the current study.
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Reviewer #2 (Public Review):
Summary:
This work investigates the enzymatic properties of lysostaphin (LSS) and LytM, two enzymes produced by Staphylococcus aureus and previously described as glycyl-glycyl endopeptidases. The authors use synthetic peptide substrates mimicking peptidoglycan fragments to determine the substrate specificity of both enzymes and identify the bonds they cleave.
Strengths:
- This work is addressing a real gap in our knowledge since very little information is available about the substrate specificity of peptidoglycan hydrolases.<br /> - The experimental strategy and its implementation are robust and provide a thorough analysis of LSS and LytM enzymatic activities. The results are very convincing and demonstrate that the enzymatic properties of the model enzymes studied need to be revisited.<br /> - I think the experimental work is extremely well designed and way beyond what people usually do in the field. I believe that this sets a precedent that is worth acknowledging.
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Reviewer #1 (Public Review):
Summary:
This manuscript aimed to investigate the emergence of emotional sensitivity and its relationship with gestational age. Using an oddball paradigm and event-related potentials, the authors conducted an experiment in 120 healthy neonates with a gestational age range of 35 to 40 weeks. A significant developmental milestone was identified at 37 weeks gestational age, marking a crucial juncture in neonatal emotional responsiveness.
Strengths:
This study has several strengths, by providing profound insights into the early development of social-emotional functioning and unveiling the role of gestational age in shaping neonatal perceptual abilities. The methodology of this study demonstrates rigor and well-controlled experimental design, particularly involving matched control sounds, which enhances the reliability of the research. Their findings not only contribute to the field of neurodevelopment, but also showcase potential clinical applications, especially in the context of autism screening and early intervention for neurodevelopmental disorders.
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Reviewer #2 (Public Review):
This is an important and very interesting report on a change in newborns' neural abilities to distinguish auditory signals as a function of the gestational age (GA) of the infant at birth (from 35 weeks GA to 40 weeks GA). The authors tested neural discrimination of sounds that were labeled 'happy' vs 'neutral' by listeners that represent two categories of sound, either human voices or auditory signals that mimic only certain properties of the human vocal signals. The finding is that a change occurs in neural discrimination of the happy and neutral auditory signals for infants born at or after 37 weeks of gestation, and not prior (at 35 or 36 weeks of gestation), and only for discrimination of the human vocal signals; no change occurs in discrimination of the nonhuman signals over the 35- to 40-week gestational ages tested. The neural evidence of discrimination of the vocal happy-neutral distinction and the absence of the discrimination of the control signals is convincing. The authors interpret this as a 'landmark' in infants' ability to detect changes in emotional vocal signals, and remark on the potential value of the test as a marker of the infants' interest in emotional signals, underscoring the fact that children at risk for autism spectrum disorder may not show the discrimination.
[Editors' note: The authors addressed the reviewers' main concern by clearly stating the limits of the study's implications.]
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Reviewer #1 (Public Review):
Summary:
A nice study trying to identify the relationship between E. coli O157 from cattle and humans in Alberta, Canada.
Strengths:
(1) The combined human and animal sampling is a great foundation for this kind of study.
(2) Phylogenetic analyses seem to have been carried out in a high-quality fashion.
Weaknesses:
I think there may be a problem with the selection of the isolates for the primary analysis. This is what I'm thinking:
(1) Transmission analyses are strongly influenced by the sampling frame.
(2) While the authors have randomly selected from their isolate collections, which is fine, the collections themselves are not random.
(3) The animal isolates are likely to represent a broad swathe of diversity, because of the structured sampling of animal reservoirs undertaken (as I understand it).
(4) The human isolates are all from clinical cases. Clinical cases of the disease are likely to be closely related to other clinical cases, because of outbreaks (either detected, or undetected), and the high ascertainment rate for serious infections.
(5) Therefore, taking an equivalent number of animal and clinical isolates, will underestimate the total diversity in the clinical isolates because the sampling of the clinical isolates is less "independent" (in the statistical sense) than sampling from the animal isolates.
(6) This could lead to over-estimating of transmission from cattle to humans.
(7) "We hypothesize that the large proportion of disease associated with local transmission systems is a principal cause of Alberta's high E. coli O157:H7 incidence" - this seems a bit tautological. There is a lot of O157 because there's a lot of transmission. What part of the fact it is local means that it is a principal cause of high incidence? It seems that they've observed a high rate of local transmission, but the reasons for this are not apparent, and hence the cause of Alberta's incidence is not apparent. Would a better conclusion not be that "X% of STEC in Alberta is the result of transmission of local variants"? And then, this poses a question for future epi studies of what the transmission pathway is.
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Reviewer #2 (Public Review):
This study identified multiple locally evolving lineages transmitted between cattle and humans persistently associated with E. coli O157:H7 illnesses for up to 13 years. Furthermore, this study mentions a dramatic shift in the local persistent lineages toward strains with the more virulent stx2a-only profile. The authors hypothesized that this phenomenon is the large proportion of disease associated with local transmission systems is a principal cause of Alberta's high E. coli O157:H7 incidence. These opinions more effectively explain the role of the cattle reservoir in the dynamics of E. coli O157:H7 human infections.
(1) The authors acknowledge the possibility of intermediate hosts or environmental reservoirs playing a role in transmission. Further discussion on the potential roles of other animal species commonly found in Alberta (e.g., sheep, goats, swine) could enhance the understanding of the transmission dynamics. Were isolates from these species available for analysis? If not, the authors should clearly state this limitation.
(2) The focus on E. coli O157:H7 is understandable given its prominence in Alberta and the availability of historical data. However, a brief discussion on the potential applicability of the findings to non-O157 STEC serogroups, and the limitations therein, would be beneficial. Are there reasons to believe the transmission dynamics would be similar or different for other serogroups?
(3) The authors briefly mention the need for elucidating local transmission systems to inform management strategies. A more detailed discussion on specific public health interventions that could be targeted at the identified LPLs and their potential reservoirs would strengthen the paper's impact.
(4) "Understanding the relationship between specific risk factors and E. coli O157:H7 infections is essential for developing effective prevention strategies. Have case-control or cohort studies been conducted to assess the correlation between identified risk factors and the incidence of E. coli O157:H7 infections? What methodologies were employed to control for potential confounders in these studies?"
(5) The study's findings are noteworthy, particularly in the context of E. coli O157:H7 epidemiology. However, the extent to which these results can be replicated across different temporal and geographical settings remains an open question. It would be constructive for the authors to provide additional data that demonstrate the replication of their sampling and sequencing experiments under varied conditions. This would address concerns regarding the specificity of the observed patterns to the initial study's parameters.
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Reviewer #1 (Public Review):
Summary:<br /> In this study, Zhao and colleagues investigate inflammasome activation by E. tarda infections. They show that E. tarda induces the activation of the NLRC4 inflammasome as well as the non-canonical pathway in human THP1 macrophages. Further dissecting NLRC4 activation, they find that T3SS translocon components eseB, eseC and eseD are necessary for NLRC4 activation and that delivery of purified eseB is sufficient to trigger NAIP-dependent NLRC4 activation. Sequence analysis reveals that eseB shares homology within the C-terminus with T3SS needle and rod proteins, leading the authors to test if this region is necessary for inflammasome activation. They show that the eseB CT is required and that it mediates interaction with NAIP. Finally, they that homologs of eseB in other bacteria also share the same sequence and that they can activate NLRC4 in a HEK293T cell overexpression system.
Strengths:<br /> This is a very nice study that convincingly shows that eseB and its homologs can be recognized by the human NAIP/NLRC4 inflammasome. The experiments are well designed, controlled and described, and the papers is convincing as a whole.
Weaknesses:<br /> The authors need to discuss their study in the context of previous papers that have shown an important role for E. tarda flagellin in inflammasome activation and test whether flagellin and/or E. tarda T3SSs needle or rod can activate NLRC4.
The authors show that eseB and its homologs can activate NLRC4, but there are also other translocon proteins that are very different such as YopB or PopB. and share little homology with eseB. It would be nice to include a section comparing the different type 3 secretion systems. are there 2 different families of T3SSs, those that feature translocon components that are recognized by NAIP-NLRC4 and those that cannot be recognized?
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Reviewer #2 (Public Review):
Summary:<br /> This work by Zhao et al. demonstrates the role of the Edwardsiella tarda type 3 secretion system translocon in activating human macrophage inflammation and pyroptosis. The authors show the requirement of both the bacterial translocon proteins and particular host inflammasome components for E. tarda-induced pyroptosis. In addition, the authors show that the C-terminal region of the translocon protein, EseB, is both necessary and sufficient to induce pyroptosis when present in the cytoplasm. The most terminal region of EseB was determined to be highly conserved among other T3SS-encoding pathogenic bacteria and a subset of these exhibited functionally similar effects on inflammasome activation. Overall, the data support the conclusions and interpretations and provide interesting insights into interactions between bacterial T3SS components and the host immune system.
Strengths:<br /> The authors use established and reliable molecular biology and bacterial genetics strategies to characterize the roles of the bacterial T3SS translocon and host inflammasome pathways to E. tarda-induced pyroptosis in human macrophages. These observations are naturally expanded upon by demonstrating the specific regions of EseB that are required for inflammasome activation and the conservation of this sequence among other pathogenic bacteria.
Weaknesses:<br /> The functional assessment of EseB homologues is limited to inflammasome activation at the protein level but does not include the effects on cell viability as shown for E. tarda EseB. Confirmation that EseB homologues have similar effects on cell death would strengthen this portion of the manuscript.
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Reviewer #1 (Public Review):
Mitochondria are essential organelles consisting in mammalian cells of about 1500 different proteins. Most of those are synthesized in the cytosol as precursor proteins, imported into mitochondria, and sorted into one of the four sub-mitochondrial compartments. The TIM23 complex, which is embedded in the mitochondrial inner membrane, facilitates the import of proteins that harbor Mitochondrial Targeting Sequence (MTS) at their N-terminus. Such proteins are sorted mainly to the mitochondrial matrix while some sub-groups are destined also to the inner membrane or the intermembrane space. TIMM50 (Tim50 in yeast) is an essential component of the TIM23 complex and mutations in this protein were reported to cause several diseases.
Summary:
In the current study, the authors analyzed the impact of TIMM50 mutations on the mitochondrial proteome in both patients' cells and mouse neurons. They provide compelling evidence for several surprising and highly interesting observations: (i) TIMM50 mutations affect the steady-state levels of only a portion of the putative TIMM50 substrates, (ii) such mutations result in increased electrical activity in mice neurons and in reduced levels of some potassium ion channels in the plasma membrane. These findings shed new light on mitochondrial biogenesis in mammalian cells and hint at an unexpected link between mitochondria and ion channels at the plasma membrane.
Strengths:
The authors used both cells from patients and neurons from mice to investigate the impact of mutations in TIMM50 on mitochondrial proteome and function.
Weaknesses:
(1) It will be interesting to monitor the levels of another MIM insertase namely, OXA1. This will help to understand whether some of the observed changes in levels of OXPHOS subunits are related to alterations in the amounts of this insertase.
(2) The authors did not provide explanations for several key findings like:<br /> A. Figure 3: How do the authors explain that although TIMM17 and TIMM23 were found to be significantly reduced by Western analysis they were not detected as such by the Mass Spec. method?<br /> B. How do the authors explain the higher levels of some proteins in the TIMM50 mutated cells?<br /> C. Can the authors elaborate on why mutated cells are impaired in their ability to switch their energetic emphasis to glycolysis when needed?
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Reviewer #2 (Public Review):
Summary:
Mitochondria import hundreds of precursor proteins from the cytosol. The TOM and TIM23 complexes facilitate the import of the matrix-targeting pathway of mitochondria. In yeast, Tim50 is a critical and essential subunit of the TIM23 complex that mediates the transition of precursors from the outer to the inner membrane. The human Tim50 homolog TIMM50 is highly similar in structure and a comparable function of Tim50 and TIMM50 was proven by several biochemical and genetic studies in the past.
In this study, the authors characterize human cells that express lower levels or mutated versions of TIMM50. They found that in these TIMM50-depletion cells, the levels of other TIM23 core subunits are also diminished but many mitochondrial proteins are unaffected. Moreover, they observed alterations in the electrical activity and the levels of potassium channels in neuronal cells of TIMM50-deficient mice. They propose that these changes explain the pathology of patients who often suffer from epilepsy.
Strengths:
The paper is written by experts in the field, and it is very clear. The experiments are of high quality and sufficiently well-controlled. The study is interesting for a broad readership.
Weaknesses:
However, there is a problem that needs to be fixed: The interpretation of the results needs to be downgraded. The authors claim in the abstract, the introduction, and the discussion that TIMM50 and the TIM23 translocase might not be relevant for mitochondrial protein import in mammals. This is misleading and certainly wrong!!! What they do show is that the depletion of TIMM50 to about 20% of the normal levels is still tolerated in cultured cells grown in a glucose-rich medium. This is similar to the situation of cytochrome oxidase deficiency where lower levels are often well tolerated, and only very low levels (<20%) lead to Leigh syndrome. Still, it would be wrong to claim that respiration can occur without the terminal enzyme. Thus, it is essential that the authors change the wording here. In the discussion they offer several explanations: Mitochondria might import more proteins than they need and just degrade the excess. The TIMM50 depletion cells might increase the expression of mitochondrial proteins as a compensatory mechanism. Translocation across the TIM23 complex might not be the rate-limiting step in mitochondrial protein biogenesis. The authors do not have to sort this out on a molecular level, however, they have to be more cautious with the conclusions they make! Except for this issue, this is a very interesting study that will raise the interest of the mitochondrial community.
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Reviewer #1 (Public Review):
Time periods in which experience regulates early plasticity in sensory circuits are well established, but the mechanisms that control these critical periods are poorly understood. In this manuscript, Leier and Foden and colleagues examine early-life critical periods that regulate the Drosophila antennal lobe, a model sensory circuit for understanding synaptic organization. Using early-life (0-2 days old) exposure to distinct odorants, they show that constant odor exposure markedly reduces the volume, synapse number, and function of the VM7 glomerulus. The authors offer evidence that these changes are mediated by invasion of ensheathing glia into the glomerulus where they phagocytose connections via a mechanism involving the engulfment receptor Draper.
This manuscript is a striking example of a study where the questions are interesting, the authors spent a considerable amount of time to clearly think out the best experiments to ask their questions in the most straightforward way, and expressed the results in a careful, cogent, and well-written fashion. It was a genuine delight to read this paper. I have two experimental suggestions that would really round out existing work to better support the existing conclusions and some instances where additional data or tempered language in describing results would better support their conclusions. Overall, though, this is an incredibly important finding, a careful analysis, and an excellent mechanistic advance in understanding sensory critical period biology.
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Reviewer #2 (Public Review):
Sensory experiences during developmental critical periods have long-lasting impacts on neural circuit function and behavior. However, the underlying molecular and cellular mechanisms that drive these enduring changes are not fully understood. In Drosophila, the antennal lobe is composed of synapses between olfactory sensory neurons (OSNs) and projection neurons (PNs), arranged into distinct glomeruli. Many of these glomeruli show structural plasticity in response to early-life odor exposure, reflecting the sensitivity of the olfactory circuitry to early sensory experiences.
In their study, the authors explored the role of glia in the development of the antennal lobe in young adult flies, proposing that glial cells might also play a role in experience-dependent plasticity. They identified a critical period during which both structural and functional plasticity of OSN-PN synapses occur within the ethyl butyrate (EB)-responsive VM7 glomerulus. When flies were exposed to EB within the first two days post-eclosion, significant reductions in glomerular volume, presynaptic terminal numbers, and postsynaptic activity were observed. The study further highlights the importance of the highly conserved engulfment receptor Draper in facilitating this critical period plasticity. The authors demonstrated that, in response to EB exposure during this developmental window, ensheathing glia increase Draper expression, infiltrate the VM7 glomerulus, and actively phagocytose OSN presynaptic terminals. This synapse pruning has lasting effects on circuit function, leading to persistent decreases in both OSN-PN synapse numbers and spontaneous PN activity as analyzed by perforated patch-clamp electrophysiology to record spontaneous activity from PNs postsynaptic to Or42a OSNs.
In my view, this is an intriguing and potentially valuable set of data. However, since I am not an expert in critical periods or habituation, I do not feel entirely qualified to assess the full significance or the novelty of their findings, particularly in relation to existing research.
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Reviewer #1 (Public Review):
Summary:
This article presents a meta-analysis that challenges established abundance-occupancy relationships (AORs) by utilizing the largest known bird observation database. The analysis yields contentious outcomes, raising the question of whether these findings could potentially refute AORs.
Strengths:
The study employed an extensive aggregation of datasets to date to scrutinize the abundance-occupancy relationships (AORs).
Weaknesses:
While the dataset employed in this research holds promise, a rigorous justification of the core assumptions underpinning the analytical framework is inadequate. The authors should thoroughly address the correlation between checklist data and global range data, ensuring that the foundational assumptions and potential confounding factors are explicitly examined and articulated within the study's context.
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Reviewer #2 (Public Review):
Summary:
The goal is to ask if common species when studied across their range tend to have larger ranges in total. To do this the authors examined a very large citizen science database which gives estimates of numbers, and correlated that with the total range size, available from Birdlife. The average correlation is positive but close to zero, and the distribution around zero is also narrow, leading to the conclusion that, even if applicable in some cases, there is no evidence for consistent trends in one or other direction.
Strengths:
The study raises a dormant question, with a large dataset.
Weaknesses:
This study combines information from across the whole world, with many different habitats, taxa, and observations, which surely leads to a quite heterogeneous collection.
First, scale. Many of the earlier analyses were within smaller areas, and for example, ranges are not obviously bounded by a physical barrier. I assume this study is only looking at breeding ranges; that should be stated, as 40% of all bird species migrate, and winter limitation of populations is important. Also are abundances only breeding abundances or are they measured through the year? Are alien distributions removed?
Second, consider various reasons why abundance and range size may be correlated (sometimes positively and sometimes negatively) at large scales. Combining studies across such a large diversity of ecological situations seems to create many possibilities to miss interesting patterns. For example:
(1) Islands are small and often show density release.
(2) North temperate regions have large ranges (Rapoport's rule) and higher population sizes than the tropics.
(3) Body size correlates with global range size (I am unsure if this has recently been tested but is present in older papers) and with density. For example, cosmopolitan species (barn owl, osprey, peregrine) are relatively large and relatively rare.
(4) In the consideration of alien species, it certainly looks to me as if the law is followed, with pigeon, starling, and sparrow both common and widely distributed. I guess one needs to make some sort of statement about anthropogenic influences, given the dramatic changes in both populations and environments over the past 50 years.
(5) Wing shape correlates with ecological niche and range size (e.g. White, American Naturalist). Aerial foraging species with pointed wings are likely to be easily detected, and several have large ranges reflecting dispersal (e.g. barn swallow).
Third, biases. I am not conversant with ebird methodology, but the number appearing on checklists seems a very poor estimate of local abundance. As noted in the paper, common species may be underestimated in their abundance. Flocking species must generate large numbers, skulking species few. The survey is often likely to be in areas favorable to some species and not others. The alternative approach in the paper comes from an earlier study, based on ebird but then creating densities within grids and surely comes with similar issues.<br /> Biases are present in range as well. Notably, tropical mountain-occupying species have range sizes over-estimated because holes in the range are not generally accounted for (Ocampo-Peñuela et al Nature communications). These species are often quite rare too.
Fourth, random error. Random error in ebird assessments is likely to be large, with differences among observers, seasons, days, and weather (e.g. Callaghan et al. 2021, PNAS). Range sizes also come with many errors, which is why occupancy is usually seen as the more appropriate measure.
If we consider both range and abundance measurements to be subject to random error in any one species list, then the removal of all these errors will surely increase the correlation for that list (the covariance shouldn't change but the variances will decrease). I think (but am not sure) that this will affect the mean correlation because more of the positive correlations appear 'real' given the overall mean is positive. It will definitely affect the variance of the correlations; the low variance is one of the main points in the paper. A high variance would point to the operation of multiple mechanisms, some perhaps producing negative correlations (Blackburn et al. 2006).
On P.80 it is stated: "Specifically, we can quantify how AOR will change in relation to increases in species richness and sampling duration, both of which are predicted to reduce the magnitude of AORs" I haven't checked the references that make this statement, but intuitively the opposite is expected? More species and longer durations should both increase the accuracy of the estimate, so removing them introduces more error? Perhaps dividing by an uncertain estimate introduces more error anyway. At any rate, the authors should explain the quoted statement in this paper.
It would be of considerable interest to look at the extreme negative and extreme positive correlations: do they make any biological sense?
Discussion:
I can see how publication bias can affect meta-analyses (addressed in the Gaston et al. 2006 paper) but less easily see how confirmation bias can. It seems to me that some of the points made above must explain the difference between this study and Blackburn et al. 2006's strong result.
Certainly, AOR really does seem to be present in at least some cases (e.g. British breeding birds) and a discussion of individual cases would be valuable. Previous studies have also noted that there are at least some negative and some non-significant associations, and understanding the underlying causes is of great interest (e.g. Kotiaho et al. Biology Letters).
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Reviewer #3 (Public Review):
Summary:
This paper claims to overturn the longstanding abundance occupancy relationship.
Strengths:
(1) The above would be important if true.<br /> (2) The dataset is large.
Weaknesses:
(1) The authors are not really measuring the abundance-occupancy relationship (AOR). They are measuring abundance-range size. The AOR typically measures patches in a metapopulation, i.e. at a local scale. Range size is not an interchangeable notion with local occupancy.
(2) Ebird is a poor dataset for this. The sampling unit is non-standard. So abundance can at best be estimated by controlling for sampling effort. Comparisons across space are also likely to be highly heterogenous. They also threw out checklists in which abundances were too high to be estimated (reported as "X"). As evidence of the biases in using eBird for this pattern, the North American Breeding Bird Survey, a very similar taxonomic and geographic scope but with a consistent sampling protocol across space does show clear support for the AOR.
(3) In general, I wonder if a pattern demonstrated in thousands of data sets can be overturned by findings in one data set. It may be a big dataset but any biases in the dataset are repeated across all of those observations.
Overturning a major conclusion requires careful work. This paper did not rise to this level.
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Reviewer #1 (Public Review):
Summary:<br /> The authors present experimental and numerical results on the motility Magnetospirillum gryphiswaldense MSR-1, a magnetotactic bacterium living in sedimentary environments. The authors manufactured microfluidic chips containing three-dimensional obstacles of irregular shape, that match the statistical features of the grains observed in the sediment via micro-computer tomography. The bacteria are furthermore subject to an external magnetic field, whose intensity can be varied. The key quantity measured in the experiments is the throughput ratio, defined as the ratio between the number of bacteria that reach the end of the microfluidic channel and the number of bacteria entering it. The main result is that the throughput ratio is non-monotonic and exhibits a maximum at magnetic field strength comparable with Earth's magnetic field. The authors rationalize the throughput suppression at large magnetic fields by quantifying the number of bacteria trapped in corners between grains.
Strengths:<br /> While magnetotactic bacteria's general motility in bulk has been characterized, we know much less about their dynamics in a realistic setting, such as a disordered porous material. The micro-computer tomography of sediments and their artificial reconstruction in a microfluidic channel is a powerful method that establishes the rigorous methodology of this work. This technique can give access to further characterization of microbial motility. The coupling of experiments and computer simulations lends considerable strength to the claims of the authors, because the model parameters (with one exception) are directly measured in the experiments.
Weaknesses:<br /> The main weakness of the manuscript pertains to the discussion of the statistical significance of the experimental throughput ratio. Especially when comparing results at zero and 50 micro Tesla. The simulations seem to predict a stronger effect than seen in the experiments. The authors do not address this discrepancy.
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Reviewer #2 (Public Review):
Summary:<br /> simulation study of magnetotactic bacteria in microfluidic channels containing sediment-mimicking obstacles. The obstacles were produced based on micro-computer tomography reconstructions of bacteria-rich sediment samples. The swimming of bacteria through these channels is found experimentally to display the highest throughput for physiological magnetic fields. Computer simulations of active Brownian particles, parameterized based on experimental trajectories are used to quantify the swimming throughput in detail. Similar behavior as in experiments is obtained, but also considerable variability between different channel geometries. Swimming at strong field is impeded by the trapping of bacteria in corners, while at weak fields the direction of motion is almost random. The trapping effect is confirmed in the experiments, as well as the escape of bacteria with reducing field strength.
Strengths:<br /> This is a very careful and detailed study, which draws its main strength from the fruitful combination of the construction of novel microfluidic devices, their use in motility experiments, and simulations of active Brownian particles adapted to the experiment. Based on their results, the authors hypothesize that magnetotactic bacteria may have evolved to produce magnetic properties that are adapted to the geomagnetic field in order to balance movement and orientation in such crowded environments. They provide strong arguments in favor<br /> of such a hypothesis.
Weaknesses:<br /> Some of the issues touched upon here have been studied also in other articles. It would be good to extend the list of references accordingly and discuss the relation briefly in the text.
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Summary:<br /> The paper investigates the interplay between fluid flow and biofilm development using Pseudomonas aeruginosa PAO1 in microfluidic channels. By combining experimental observations with mathematical modeling, the study identifies the significant impact of nutrient limitation and hydrodynamic forces on biofilm growth and detachment. The authors demonstrate that nutrient limitation drives the longitudinal distribution of biomass, while flow-induced detachment influences the maximum clogging and temporal dynamics. The study highlights that pressure buildup plays a critical role in biofilm detachment, leading to cyclic episodes of sloughing and regrowth. A stochastic model is used to describe the detachment process, capturing the apparent randomness of sloughing events. The findings offer insights into biofilm behavior during clogging and fouling, potentially relevant to infections, environmental processes, and engineering applications.
Strengths:<br /> This paper demonstrates a strong integration of experimental work and mathematical modeling, providing a comprehensive understanding of biofilm dynamics in straight microfluidic channel. The simplicity of the microchannel geometry allows for accurate modeling, and the findings have the potential to be applied to more complex geometries. The detailed analysis of nutrient limitation and its impact on biofilm growth offers valuable insights into the conditions that drive biofilm formation. The model effectively describes biofilm development across different stages, capturing both initial growth and cyclic detachment processes. While cyclic pressure buildup has been studied previously, the incorporation of a stochastic model to describe detachment events is a novel and significant contribution, capturing the complexity and randomness of biofilm behavior. Finally, the investigation of pressure buildup and its role in cyclic detachment and regrowth enhances our understanding of the mechanical forces at play, making the findings applicable to a wide range of technological and clinical contexts.
Weaknesses:<br /> The study achieves its primary goal of integrating experiments and modeling to understand the coupling between flow and biofilm growth and detachment in a microfluidic channel, but it should have highlighted the weaknesses of the methods. I list the ones that, in my opinion, are the main ones:
• The study does not consider biofilm porosity, which could significantly affect the flow and forces exerted on the biofilm. Porosity could impact the boundary conditions, such as the no-slip condition, which should be validated experimentally.<br /> • The research suggests EPS development as a stage in biofilm growth but does not probe it using lectin staining. This makes it impossible to accurately assess the role of EPS in biofilm development and detachment processes.<br /> • While the force and flow are three-dimensional, the images are taken in two dimensions. The paper does not clearly explain how the 2D images are extrapolated to make 3D assessments, which could lead to inaccuracies.<br /> • Although the findings are tested using polysaccharide-deficient mutants, the results could have been analyzed in greater detail. A more thorough analysis would help to better understand the role of matrix composition on the stochastic model of detachment.
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Reviewer #2 (Public Review):
This manuscript develops well-controlled microfluidic experiments and mathematical modelling to resolve how the temporal development of P. aeruginosa biofilms is shaped by ambient flow. The experiment considers a simple rectangular channel on which a constant flow rate is applied and UV LEDs are used to confine the biofilm to a relatively small length of device. While there is often considerable geometrical complexity in confined environments and feedback between biofilm/flow (e.g. in porous media), these simplified conditions are much more amenable to analysis. A non-dimensional mathematical model that considers nutrient transport, biofilm growth and detachment is developed and used to interpret experimental data. Regimes with both gradual detachment and catastrophic sloughing are considered. The concentration of nutrients in the media is altered to resolve the effect of nutrient limitation. In addition, the role of a couple of major polysaccharide EPS components are explored with mutants, which leads results in line with previous studies.
There has been a vast amount of experimental and modelling work done on biofilms, but relatively rarely are the two linked together so tightly as in this paper. Predictions on influence of the non-dimensional Damkohler number on the longitudinal distribution of biofilm and functional dependence of flow on the maximum amount of biofilm (phi_max) are demonstrated. The study reconfirms a number of previous works that showed the gradual detachment rate of biofilms scales with the square root of the shear stress. More challenging are the rapid biofilm detachment events where a large amount of biofilm is detached at once. These events occur are identified experimentally using an automated analysis pipeline and are fitted with probability distributions. The time between detachment events was fitted with a Gamma distribution and the amplitude of the detachment events was fitted with a log-normal distribution, however, it is not clear how good these fits are. Experimental data was then used as an input for a stochastic differential equation, but the output of this model is compared only qualitatively to that of the experiments. Overall, this paper does an admirable job of developing a well-constrained experiments and a tightly integrated mathematical framework through which to interpret them. However, the new insights this provides the underlying physical/biological mechanisms are relatively limited.
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This manuscript builds upon the authors' previous work on the cross-talk between transcription initiation and post-transcriptional events in yeast gene expression. These prior studies identified an mRNA 'imprinting' phenomenon linked to genes activated by the Rap1 transcription factor (TF), a surprising role for the Sfp1 TF in promoting RNA polymerase II (RNAPII) backtracking, and a role for the non-essential RNAPII subunits Rpb4/7 in the regulation of mRNA decay and translation. Here the authors aimed to extend these observations to provide a more coherent picture of the role of Sfp1 in transcription initiation and subsequent steps in gene expression. They provide evidence for (1) a physical interaction between Sfp1 and Rpb4, (2) Sfp1 binding and stabilization of mRNAs derived from genes whose promoters are bound by both Rap1 and Sfp1 and (3) an effect of Sfp1 on Rpb4 binding or conformation during transcription elongation.
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Summary:
In this manuscript, Wu et al. introduce a novel approach to reactivate the Muller glia cell cycle in the mouse retina by simultaneously reducing p27Kip1 and increasing cyclin D1 using a single AAV vector. The approach effectively promotes Muller glia proliferation and reprograming without disrupting retinal structure or function. Interestingly, reactivation of the Muller glia cell cycle downregulates IFN pathway, which may contribute to the induced retinal regeneration. The results presented in this manuscript may offer a promising approach for developing Müller glia cell-mediated regenerative therapies for retinal diseases.
Strengths:
The data are convincing and supported by appropriate, validated methodology. These results are both technically and scientifically exciting and are likely to appeal to retinal specialists and neuroscientists in general.
Weaknesses:
There are some data gaps that need to be addressed.
(1) Please label the time points of AAV injection, EdU labeling, and harvest in Figure 1B.
(2) What fraction of Müller cells were transduced by AAV under the experimental conditions?
(3) It seems unusually rapid for MG proliferation to begin as early as the third day after CCA injection. Can the authors provide evidence for cyclin D1 overexpression and p27 Kip1 knockdown three days after CCA injection?
(4) The authors reported that MG proliferation largely ceased two weeks after CCA treatment. While this is an interesting finding, the explanation that it might be due to the dilution of AAV episomal genome copies in the dividing cells seems far-fetched.
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Reviewer #2 (Public Review):
This manuscript by Wu, Liao et al. reports that simultaneous knockdown of P27Kip1 with overexpression of Cyclin D can stimulate Muller glia to re-enter the cell cycle in the mouse retina. There is intense interest in reprogramming mammalian muller glia into a source for neurogenic progenitors, in the hopes that these cells could be a source for neuronal replacement in neurodegenerative diseases. Previous work in the field has shown ways in which mouse Muller glia can be neurogenically reprogrammed and these studies have shown cell cycle re-entry prior to neurogenesis. In other works, typically, the extent of glial proliferation is limited, and the authors of this study highlight the importance of stimulating large numbers of Muller glia to re-enter the cell cycle with the hopes they will differentiate into neurons. While the evidence for stimulating proliferation in this study is convincing, the evidence for neurogenesis in this study is not convincing or robust, suggesting that stimulating cell cycle-reentry may not be associated with increasing regeneration without another proneural stimulus.
Below are concerns and suggestions.
Intro:
(1) The authors cite past studies showing "direct conversion" of MG into neurons. However, these studies (PMID: 34686336; 36417510) show EdU+ MG-derived neurons suggesting cell cycle re-entry does occur in these strategies of proneural TF overexpression.
(2) Multiple citations are incorrectly listed, using the authors first name only (i.e. Yumi, et al; Levi, et al;). Studies are also incompletely referenced in the references.
Figure 1:<br /> (3) When are these experiments ending? On Figure 1B it says "analysis" on the end of the paradigm without an actual day associated with this. This is the case for many later figures too. The authors should update the paradigms to accurately reflect experimental end points.
(4) Are there better representative pictures between P27kd and CyclinD OE, the EdU+ counts say there is a 3 fold increase between Figure 1D&E, however the pictures do not reflect this. In fact, most of the Edu+ cells in Figure 1E don't seem to be Sox9+ MG but rather horizontally oriented nuclei in the OPL that are likely microglia.
(5) Is the infection efficacy of these viruses different between different combinations (i.e. CyclinD OE vs. P27kd vs. control vs. CCA combo)? As the counts are shown in Figure 1G only Sox9+/Edu+ cells are shown not divided by virus efficacy. If these are absolute counts blind to where the virus is and how many cells the virus hits, if the virus efficacy varies in efficiency this could drive absolute differences that aren't actually biological.
(6) According to the Jax laboratories, mice aren't considered aged until they are over 18months old. While it is interesting that CCA treatment does not seem to lose efficacy over maturation I would rephrase the findings as the experiment does not test this virus in aged retinas.
(7) Supplemental Figure 2c-d. These viruses do not hit 100% of MG, however 100% of the P27Kip staining is gone in the P27sh1 treatment, even the P27+ cell in the GCL that is likely an astrocyte has no staining in the shRNA 1 picture. Why is this?
Figure 2<br /> (8) Would you expect cells to go through two rounds of cell cycle in such a short time? The treatment of giving Edu then BrdU 24 hours later would have to catch a cell going through two rounds of division in a very short amount of time. Again the end point should be added graphically to this figure.
Figure 3<br /> (9) I am confused by the mixing of ratios of viruses to indicate infection success. I know mixtures of viruses containing CCA or control GFP or a control LacZ was injected. Was the idea to probe for GFP or LacZ in the single cell data to see which cells were infected but not treated? This is not shown anywhere?
(10) The majority of glia sorted from TdTomato are probably not infected with virus. Can you subset cells that were infected only for analysis? Otherwise it makes it very hard to make population judgements like Figure 3E-H if a large portion are basically WT glia.
(11) Figure 3C you can see Rho is expressed everywhere which is common in studies like this because the ambient RNA is so high. This makes it very hard to talk about "Rod-like" MG as this is probably an artifact from the technique. Most all scRNA-seq studies from MG-reprogramming have shown clusters of "rods" with MG hybrid gene expression and these had in the past just been considered an artifact.
(12) It is mentioned the "glial" signature is downregulated in response to CCA treatment. Where is this shown convincingly? Figure H has a feature plot of Glul , which is not clear it is changed between treatments. Otherwise MG genes are shown as a function of cluster not treatment.
Figure 4<br /> (13) The authors should be commended for being very careful in their interpretations. They employ the proper controls (Er-Cre lineage tracing/EdU-pulse chasing/scRNA-seq omics) and were very careful to attempt to see MG-derived rods. This makes the conclusion from the FISH perplexing. The few puncta dots of Rho and GNAT in MG are not convincing to this reviewer, Rho and GNAT dots are dense everywhere throughout the ONL and if you drew any random circle in the ONL it would be full of dots. The rigor of these counts also comes into question because some dots are picked up in MG in the INL even in the control case. This is confusing because baseline healthy MG do not express RNA-transcripts of these Rod genes so what is this picking up? Taken together, the conclusion that there are Rod-like MG are based off scRNA-seq data (which is likely ambient contamination) and these FISH images. I don't think this data warrants the conclusion that MG upregulate Rod genes in response to CCA.
Figure 5<br /> (14) Similar point to above but this Glul probe seems odd, why is it throughout the ONL but completely dark through the IPL, this should also be in astrocytes can you see it in the GCL? These retinas look cropped at the INL where below is completely black. The whole retinal section should be shown. Antibodies exist to GS that work in mouse along with many other MG genes, IHC or western blots could be done to better serve this point.
Figure 6<br /> (15) Figure 6D is not a co-labeled OTX2+/ TdTomato+ cell, Otx2 will fill out the whole nucleus as can be seen with examples from other MG-reprogramming papers in the field (Hoang, et al. 2020; Todd, et al. 2020; Palazzo, et al. 2022). You can clearly see in the example in Figure 6D the nucleus extending way beyond Otx2 expression as it is probably overlapping in space. Other examples should be shown, however, considering less than 1% of cells were putatively Otx2+, the safer interpretation is that these cells are not differentiating into neurons. At least 99.5% are not.
(16) Same as above Figure 6I is not convincingly co-labeled HuC/D is an RNA-binding protein and unfortunately is not always the clearest stain but this looks like background haze in the INL overlapping. Other amacrine markers could be tested, but again due to the very low numbers, I think no neurogenesis is occurring.
(17) In the text the authors are accidently referring to Figure 6 as Figure 7.
Figure 7<br /> (18) I like this figure and the concept that you can have additional MG proliferating without destroying the retina or compromising vision. This is reminiscent of the chick MG reprogramming studies in which MG proliferate in large numbers and often do not differentiate into neurons yet still persist de-laminated for long time points.
General:<br /> (19) The title should be changed, as I don't believe there is any convincing evidence of regeneration of neurons. Understanding the barriers to MG cell-cycle re-entry are important and I believe the authors did a good job in that respect, however it is an oversell to report regeneration of neurons from this data.
(20) This paper uses multiple mouse lines and it is often confusing when the text and figures switch between models. I think it would be helpful to readers if the mouse strain was added to graphical paradigms in each figure when a different mouse line is employed.
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Reviewer #1 (Public Review):
Summary:
In this manuscript the authors re-examine the developmental origin of cortical oligodendrocyte (OL) lineage cells using a combination of strategies, focussing on the question of whether the LGE generates cortical OL cells. The paper is interesting to myelin biologists, the methods used are appropriate and, in general, the study is well-executed, thorough, and persuasive, but not 100% convincing.
Strengths, weaknesses, and recommendations:
The first evidence presented that the LGE does not generate OLs for the cortex is that there are no OL precursors 'streaming' from the LGE during embryogenesis, unlike the MGE (Figure 1A). This in itself is not strong evidence, as they might be more dispersed. In fact, in the images shown, there is no obvious 'streaming' from the MGE either. Note that in Figure 1 there is no reference to the star that is shown in the figure.
The authors then electroporate a reporter into the LGE at E13.5 and examine the fate of the electroporated cells (Figures 1C-E). They find that electroporated cells became neurons in the striatum and in the cortex but no OLs for the cortex. There are two issues with this: first, there is no quantification, which means there might indeed be a small contribution from the LGE that is not immediately obvious from snapshot images. Second, it is unexpected to find labelled neurons in the cortex at all since the LGE does not normally generate neurons for the cortex! Electroporations are quite crude experiments as targeting is imprecise and variable and not always discernible at later stages. For example, in Figure 1D, one can see tdTOM+ cells near the AEP, as well as the striatum. Hence, IUE cannot on its own be taken as proof that there is no contribution of the LGE to the cortical OL population.
The authors then use an alternative fate-mapping approach, again with E13.5 electroporations (Figure 2). They find only a few GFP+ cells in the cortex at E18 (Figures 2C-D) and P10 (Figure 2E) and these are mainly neurons, not OL lineage cells. Again, there is no quantification.
Figure 3 is more convincing, but the experiments are incomplete. Here the authors generate triple-transgenic mice expressing Cre in the cortex (Emx1-Cre) and the MGE (Nkx2.1-Cre) as well as a strong nuclear reporter (H2B-GFP). They find that at P0 and P10, 97-98% of OL-lineage cells (SOX10+ or PDGFRA+) in the cortex are labelled with GFP (Figure 3). This is a more convincing argument that the LGE/CGE might not contribute significant numbers of OL lineage cells to the cortex, in contrast to the Kessaris et at. (2006) paper, which showed that Gsh2-Cre mice label ~50% of SOX10+ve cells in the motor cortex at P10. The authors of the present paper suggest that the discrepancy between their study and that of Kessaris et al. (2006) is based on the authors' previous observation (Zhang et al 2020) (https://doi.org/10.1016/j.celrep.2020.03.027) that GSH2 is expressed in intermediate precursors of the cortex from E18 onwards. If correct, then Kessaris et al. might have mistakenly attributed Gsh2-Cre+ lineages to the LGE/CGE when they were in fact intrinsic to the cortex. However, the evidence from Zhang et al 2020 that GSH2 is expressed by cortical intermediate precursors seems to rest solely on their location within the developing cortex; a more convincing demonstration would be to show that the GSH2+ putative cortical precursors co-label for EMX1 (by immunohistochemistry or in situ hybridization), or that they co-label with a reporter in Emx1-driven reporter mice. This demonstration should be simple for the authors as they have all the necessary reagents to hand. Without these additional data, the assertion that GSX2+ve cells in the cortex are derived from the cortical VZ relies partly on an act of faith on the part of the reader.
Note that Tripathi et al. (2011, "Dorsally- and ventrally-derived oligodendrocytes have similar electrical properties but myelinate preferred tracts." J. Neurosci. 31, 6809-6819) found that the Gsh-Cre+ OL lineage contributed only ~20% of OLs to the mature cortex, not ~50% as reported by Kessaris et al. (2006). If it is correct that these Gsh2-derived OLs are from the cortical anlagen as the current paper claims, then it would raise the possibility that the ventricular precursors of GSH2+ intermediate progenitors are not uniformly distributed through the cortical VZ but are perhaps localized to some part of it. Then the contribution of Gsh2-derived OLs to the cortical population could depend on precisely where one looks relative to that localized source. It would be a nice addition to the current manuscript if the authors could explore the distribution of their GSH2+ intermediate precursors throughout the developing cortex. In any case, Tripathi et al. (2011) should be cited.
Finally, the authors deleted Olig2 in the MGE and found a dramatic reduction of PDGFRA+ and SOX10+ cells in the cortex at E14 and E16 (Figure 4A-F). This further supports their conclusion that, at least at E16, there is no significant contribution of OLs from ventral sources other than the MGE/AEP. This does not exclude the possibility that the LGE/CGE generates OLs for the cortex at later stages. Hence, on its own, this is not completely convincing evidence that the LGE generates no OL lineage cells for the cortex.
Comments on the latest version:
The revised manuscript has addressed the issues we raised previously. The addition of the new Figure 3 supplement 1A-C demonstrating that Gsx2+ve cells in the cortex are generated from Emx1-Cre precursors is convincing, although there is nothing to prove that the GFP+, Gsh2+ double-labelled nuclei are oligodendrocyte lineage and not, for example, astrocytes. It would be helpful to include a Gsh2, Olig2 (or Gsh2, Sox10) double-label image to prove this point. Also, to make the figure more clear, the authors should also show a small area at high magnification, splitting the green and red channels so that the reader can see more clearly that all the red cells are also green.
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Reviewer #2 (Public Review):
Traditional thinking has been that cortical oligodendrocyte progenitor cells (OPCs) arise in the development of the brain from the medial ganglionic eminence (MGE), lateral/caudal ganglionic eminence (LGE/CGE), and cortical radial glial cells (RGCs). Indeed a landmark study demonstrated some time ago that cortical OPCs are generated in three waves, starting with a ventral wave derived from the medial ganglionic eminence (MGE) or the anterior entopeduncular area (AEP) at embryonic day E12.5 (Nkx2.1+ lineage), followed by a second wave of cortical OLs derived from the lateral/caudal ganglionic eminences (LGE/CGE) at E15.5 (Gsx2+/Nkx2.1- lineage), and then a final wave occurring at P0, when OPCs originate from cortical glial progenitor cells (Emx1+ lineage). However, the authors challenge the idea in this paper that cortical progenitors are produced from the LGE. They have found previously that cortical glial progenitor cells were also found to express Gsx2, suggesting this may not have been the best marker for LGE-derived OPCs. They have used fate mapping experiments and lineage analyses to suggest that cortical OPCs do not derive from the LGE.
Strengths:
(1) The data is high quality and very well presented, and experiments are thoughtful and elegant to address the questions being raised.
(2) The authors use two elegant approaches to lineage trace LGE derived cells, namely fate mapping of LGE-derived OPCs by combining IUE (intrauterine electroporation) with a Cre recombinase-dependent IS reporter, and Lineage tracing of LGE-derived OPCs by combining IUE with the PiggyBac transposon system. Both approaches show convincingly that labelled LGE-derived cells that enter the cortex do not express OPC markers, but that those co-labelling with oligodendrocyte markers remain in the striatum.
(3) The authors then use further approaches to confirm their findings. Firstly they lineage trace Emx1-Cre; Nkx2.1-Cre; H2B-GFP mice. Emx1-Cre is expressed in cortical RGCs and Nkx2.1-Cre is specifically expressed in MGE/AEP RGCs. They find that close to 98% of OPCs in the cortex co-label with GFP at later times, suggesting the contribution of OPCs from LGE is minimal.
(4) They use one further approach to strengthen the findings yet further. They cross Nkx2.1-Cre mice with Olig2 F/+ mice to eliminate Olig2 expression in the SVZ/VZ of the MGE/AEP (Figures 4A-B). The generation of MGE/AEP-derived OPCs is inhibited in these Olig2-NCKO conditional mice. They find that the number of cortical progenitors at E16.5 is reduced 10-fold in these mice, suggesting that LGE contribution to cortical OPCs is minimal.
Impact of Study:
The authors show elegantly and convincingly that the contribution of the LGE to the pool of cortical OPCs is minimal. The title should perhaps be that the LGE contribution is minimal rather than no contribution at all, as they are not able to rule out some small contribution from the LGE. These findings challenge the traditional belief that the LGE contributes to the pool of cortical OPCs. The authors do show that the LGE does produce OPCs, but that they tend to remain in the striatum rather than migrate into the cortex. It is interesting to wonder why their migration patterns may be different from the MGE-derived OPCs which migrate to the cortex. The functional significance of these different sources of OPCs for adult cortex in homeostatic or disease states remains unclear though.
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Summary:
This manuscript reports the effects of a heterozygous mutation in the KCNT1 potassium channels on the properties of ion currents and firing behavior of excitatory and inhibitory neurons in the cortex of mice expressing KCNT1-Y777H. In humans, this mutation as well as multiple other heterozygotic mutations produce very severe early-onset seizures and produce a major disruption of all intellectual function. In contrast, in mice, this heterozygous mutation appears to have no behavioral phenotype or any increased propensity to seizures. A relevant phenotype is, however, evident in mice with the homozygous mutation, and the authors have previously published the results of similar experiments with the homozygotes. As perhaps expected, the neuronal effects of the heterozygous mutation presented in this manuscript are generally similar but markedly smaller than the previously published findings on homozygotes. There are, however, some interesting differences, particularly on PV+ interneurons, which appear to be more excitable than wild type in the heterozygotes but more excitable in the heterozygotes. This raises the interesting question, which has been explicitly discussed by the authors in the revised manuscript, as to whether the reported changes represent homeostatic events that suppress the seizure phenotype in the mouse heterozygotes or simply changes in excitability that do not reach the threshold for behavioral outcomes.
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Reviewer #2 (Public Review):
Summary:
In this manuscript, Shore et al. investigate the consequent changes in excitability and synaptic efficacy of diverse neuronal populations in an animal model of juvenile epilepsy. Using electrophysiological patch-clamp recordings from dissociated neuronal cultures, the authors find diverging changes in two major populations of inhibitory cell types, namely somatostatin (SST)- and parvalbumin (PV)-positive interneurons, in mice expressing a variant of the KCNT1 potassium channel. They further suggest that the differential effects are due to a compensatory increase in the persistent sodium current in PV interneurons in pharmacological and in silico experiments. It remains unclear why this current is selectively enhanced in PV-interneurons.
Strengths:
(1) Heterozygous KCNT1 gain of function variant was used which more accurately models the human disorder.
(2) The manuscript is clearly written, and the flow is easy to follow. The authors explicitly state the similarities and differences between the current findings and the previously published results in the homozygous KCNT1 gain of function variant.
(3) This study uses a variety of approaches including patch clamp recording, in silico modeling and pharmacology that together make the claims stronger.
(4) Pharmacological experiments are fraught with off-target effects and thus it bolsters the authors' claims when multiple channel blockers (TTX and VU170) are used to reconstruct the sodium-activated potassium current.
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Reviewer #3 (Public Review):
Summary:
The present manuscript by Shore et al. entitled Reduced GABAergic Neuron Excitability, Altered Synaptic Connectivity, and Seizures in a KCNT1 Gain-of-Function Mouse Model of Childhood Epilepsy" describes in vitro and in silico results obtained in cortical neurons from mice carrying the KCNT1-Y777H gain-of-function (GOF) variant in the KCNT1 gene encoding for a subunit of the Na+-activated K+ (KNa) channel. This variant corresponds to the human Y796H variant found in a family with Autosomal Dominant Nocturnal Frontal lobe epilepsy. The occurrence of GOF variants in potassium channel encoding genes is well known, and among potential pathophysiological mechanisms, impaired inhibition has been documented as responsible for KCNT1-related DEEs. Therefore, building on a previous study by the same group performed in homozygous KI animals, and considering that the largest majority of pathogenic KCNT1 variants in humans occur in heterozygosis, the Authors have investigated the effects of heterozygous Kcnt1-Y777H expression on KNa currents and neuronal physiology among cortical glutamatergic and the 3 main classes of GABAergic neurons, namely those expressing vasoactive intestinal polypeptide (VIP), somatostatin (SST), and parvalbumin (PV), crossing KCNT1-Y777H mice with PV-, SST- and PV-cre mouse lines, and recording from GABAergic neurons identified by their expression of mCherry (but negative for GFP used to mark excitatory neurons).
The results obtained revealed heterogeneous effects of the variant on KNa and action potential firing rates in distinct neuronal subpopulations, ranging from no change (glutamatergic and VIP GABAergic) to decreased excitability (SST GABAergic) to increased excitability (PV GABAergic). In particular, modelling and in vitro data revealed that an increase in persistent Na current occurring in PV neurons was sufficient to overcome the effects of KCNT1 GOF and cause an overall increase in AP generation.
Strengths:
The paper is very well written, the results clearly presented and interpreted, and the discussion focuses on the most relevant points.<br /> The recordings performed in distinct neuronal subpopulations (both in primary neuronal cultures and, for some subpopulations, in cortical slices, are a clear strength of the paper. The finding that the same variant can cause opposite effects and trigger specific homeostatic mechanisms in distinct neuronal populations is very relevant for the field, as it narrows the existing gap between experimental models and clinical evidence.
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Summary:
The authors show for the first time that deleting GLS from rod photoreceptors results in the rapid death of these cells. The death of photoreceptor cells could result from loss of synaptic activity because of a decrease in glutamate, as has been shown in neurons, changes in redox balance, or nutrient deprivation.
Strengths:
The strength of this manuscript is that the author shows a similar phenotype in the mice when Gls was knocked out early in rod development or the adult rod. They showed that rapid cell death is through apoptosis, and there is an increase in the expression of genes responsive to oxidative stress.
Weaknesses:
In this manuscript, the authors show a "metabolic dependency of photoreceptors on glutamine catabolism in vivo". However, there is a potential bias in their thinking that glutamine metabolism in rods is similar to cancer cells where it feeds into the TCA cycle. They should consider that as in neurons, GLS1 activity provides glutamate for synaptic transmission. The modest rescue shown by providing α-ketoglutarate in the drinking water suggests that glutamine isn't a key metabolic substrate for rods when glucose is plentiful. The ERG studies performed on the iCre-Glsflox/flox mice showed a large decrease in the scotopic b wave at saturating flashes which could indicate a decrease in glutamate at the rod synapse as stated by the authors. While EM micrographs of wt and iCre-Glsflox/flox mice were shown for the outer retina at p14, the synapse of the rods needs to be examined by EM.
The authors note that the outer segments are shorter but they do not address whether there is a decrease in the number of cones.
Rod-specific Gls ko mice with an inducible promoter were generated by crossing the Pde6g-CreERT2 and homozygous for either the WT or floxed Gls allele (IND-cKO). In Figure 3 the authors document that by western blots and antibody labeling the GLS1 expression is lost in the IND-cKO 10 days post tamoxifen. OCT images show a decrease in the thickness of the outer nuclear layer between 17 and 38 days post-TAM. Ergs should be performed on the animals at 10 and 30 days post TAM, before and after major structural changes in rod photoreceptor cells, to determine if changes in light-stimulated responses are observed. These studies could help to parse out the cause of photoreceptor cell death.
The studies in Figure 4 were all performed on iCre-Glsflox/flox and control mice at p14, why weren't the IND-cKO mice used for these studies since the findings would not be confounded by development?
In all rescue studies, the endpoint was an ONL thickness, which only addressed rod cell death. The authors should also determine whether there are small improvements in the ERG, which would distinguish the role of GLS in preventing oxidative stress.
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Reviewer #2 (Public Review):
Summary:
Photoreceptor neurons are crucial for vision, and discovering pathways necessary for photoreceptor health and survival can open new avenues for therapeutics. Studies have shown that metabolic dysfunction can cause photoreceptor degeneration and vision loss, but the metabolic pathways maintaining photoreceptor health are not well understood. This is a fundamental study that shows that glutamine catabolism is critical for photoreceptor cell health using in vivo model systems.
Strengths:
The data are compelling, and the consideration of potential confounding factors (such as glutaminase 2 expression) and additional experiments to examine the synaptic connectivity and inner retina added strength to this work. The authors were also careful not to overstate their claims, but to provide solid conclusions that fit the results and data provided in their study. The findings linking asparagine supplementation and the inhibition of the integrated stress response to glutamine catabolism within the rod photoreceptor cell are intriguing and innovative. Overall, the authors provide convincing data to highlight that photoreceptors utilize various fuel sources to meet their metabolic needs, and that glutamine is critical to these cells for their biomass, redox balance, function, and survival.
Weaknesses:
Recent studies have explored the metabolic "crosstalk" that exists within the mammalian retina, where metabolites are transferred between the various retinal cells and the retinal pigment epithelium. It would be of interest to test whether the conditional knockout mice have changes in metabolism (via qPCR such as shown in Figure 4 - Supplemental Figure 1) within the retinal pigment epithelium that may be contributing to the authors' findings in the neural retina. Additionally, the authors have very compelling data to show that inhibition of eIF2a or supplementation with asparagine can delay photoreceptor death via OCT measurements in their conditional knockout mouse model (Figure 6G, H). However, does inhibition of eIF2a or asparagine adversely impact the WT retina? It would also be impactful to know whether this has a prolonged effect, or if it is short-term, as this would provide strength to potential therapeutic targeting of these pathways to maintain photoreceptor health.
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Reviewer #3 (Public Review):
Summary:
The authors explored the role of GLS, a glutaminase, which is an enzyme that catalyzes the conversion of glutamine to glutamate, in rod photoreceptor function and survival. The loss of GLS was found to cause rapid autonomous death of rod photoreceptors.
Strengths:
Interesting and novel phenotype. Two types of cre-lines were rigorously used to knockout the Gls gene in rods. Both of the conditional knockouts led to a similar phenotype, i.e. rod death. Histology and ERG were carefully done to characterize the loss of rods over specific ages. A necessary metabolomic study was performed and appreciated. Some rescue experiments were performed and revealed possible mechanisms.
Weaknesses:
No major weaknesses were identified. The mechanism of GLS-loss-induced rod death seems not fully elucidated by this study but could be followed up in the future, and the same for GLS's role in cones.
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Reviewer #1 (Public Review):
The research by Lin Chao, Chun Kuen Chen, Chao Shi, and Camilla U. Rang addresses the asymmetric distribution of ribosomes in single E. coli cells during aging by time-lapse microscopy, as well as its correlation to protein misfolding. The presented research is an important contribution to the field of protein biosynthesis pathways and their link to aging, especially in regard to the thorough analysis of variation in cells elongation rate in old and new daughter cells derived from old and new mother cells.
Comments on current version:
I thank the authors for their thoughtful responses. Yet the centrality of protein aggregate distribution analysis to this manuscript requires further evidence to support the link to ribosome asymmetrical distribution and aging.
The authors suggest this is beyond the scope of this study. This then requires a major revising of the study, as in its current form, it is one of its main claims.
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This study presents careful biochemical experiments to understand the relationship between LRRK2 GTP hydrolysis parameters and LRRK2 kinase activity. The authors report that incubation of LRRK2 with ATP increases the KM for GTP and decreases the kcat. From this they suppose an autophosphorylation process is responsible for enzyme inhibition. LRRK2 T1343A showed no change, consistent with it needing to be phosphorylated to explain the changes in G-domain properties. The authors propose that phosphorylation of T1343 inhibits kinase activity and influences monomer-dimer transitions.
Strengths:
The strengths of the work are the very careful biochemical analyses and interesting results for wild type LRRK2.
Weaknesses:
The conclusions related to the involvement of a monomer-dimer transition are to this reviewer, premature and an independent method needs to be utilized to bolster this aspect of the story.
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In this paper the researchers aimed to address whether bees causally understand string-pulling through a series of experiments. I first briefly summarize what they did:
- In experiment 1, the researchers trained bees without string and then presented them with flowers in the test phase that either had connected or disconnected strings, to determine what their preference was without any training. Bees did not show any preference.
- In experiment 2, bees were trained to have experience with string and then tested on their choice between connected vs. disconnected string.
- Experiment 3 was similar except that instead of having one option which was an attached string broken in the middle, the string was completely disconnected from the flower.
- In experiment 4, bees were trained on green strings and tested on white strings to determine if they generalize across color.
- In experiment 5, bees were trained on blue strings and tested on white strings.
- In experiment 6, bees were trained where black tape covered the area between the string and the flower (i.e. so they would not be able to see/ learn whether it was connected or disconnected).
- In experiments 2-6, bees chose the connected string in the test phase.
- In experiment 7, bees were trained as in expt 3 and then tested where string was either disconnected or coiled i.e. still being 'functional' but appearing different.
- In experiment 8, bees were trained as before and then tested on string that was in a different coiled orientation, either connected or disconnected.
- In experiments 7 and 8 the bees showed no preference.
Strengths:
I appreciate the amount of work that has gone into these experiments and think they are a nice, thorough set of experiments. I enjoyed reading the paper and felt that it was overall well-written and clear. I think experiment 1 shows that bees do not have an untrained understanding of the function of the string in this context. The rest of the experiments indicate that with training, bees have a preference for unbroken over broken string and likely use visual cues learned during training to make this choice. They also show that as in other contexts, bees readily generalize across different colors.
The 'weaknesses' that I previously listed were dealt with by the authors in the revised version of the manuscript. I think the only point that we disagreed on was relating to the ecological relevance of the task to the bees.
Here is my previous comment:
I think the paper would be made stronger by considering the natural context in which the bee performs this behavior. Bees manipulate flowers in all kinds of contexts, and scrabble with their legs to achieve nectar rewards. Rather than thinking that it is pulling a string, my guess would be that the bee learns that a particular motor pattern within their usual foraging repertoire (scrabbling with legs), leads to a reward. I don't think this makes the behavior any less interesting - in fact, I think considering the behavior through an ecological lens can help make better sense of it.
The authors disagreed, writing the following:
"Here we respectfully disagree. The solving of Rubik s cube by humans could be said to be version of finger movements naturally required to open nuts or remove ticks from fur, but this is somewhat beside the point: it s not the motor<br /> sequences that are of interest, but the cognition involved. A general approach in work on animal intelligence and cognition is to deliberately choose paradigms that are outside the animals daily routines this is what we have done here, in asking whether there is means end comprehension in bee problem solving. Like comparable studies on this question in other animals, the experiments are designed to probe this question, not one of ecological validity."
I think the difference would be that humans know that they are doing a rubik's cube whereas I do not think that the bee knows that it is pulling string- I think the bee thinks that it is foraging on a flower. Therefore, I stand by my statement that I think it's worth considering what the bee is experiencing in this task and how it relates to what it would be doing while foraging. I think that as animal cognition researchers we can design tasks that are distinct from what the animal would naturally encounter to ask specific questions about what they are thinking- but that we can never remove the ecological context since the animal will always be viewing the task through that lens. However, I think this may be a philosophical difference in opinion and I am happy with the manuscript as it stands.
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This manuscript by Amen, Yoo and Fabra-Garcia et al describes a human monoclonal antibody B1E11K, targeting EENV repeats which are present in parasite antigens such as Pfs230, RESAs and Pf11.1. The authors isolated B1E11K using an initial target agnostic approach for antibodies that would bind gamete/gametocyte lysate which they made 14 mAbs. Following a suite of highly appropriate characterization methods from Western blotting of recombinant proteins to native parasite material, use of knockout lines to validate specificity, ITC, peptide mapping, SEC-MALS, negative stain EM and crystallography, the authors have built a compelling case that B1E11K does indeed bind EENV repeats. In addition, using X-ray crystallography they show that two B1E11K Fabs bind to a 16 aa RESA repeat in a head-to-head conformation using homotypic interactions and provide a separate example from CSP, of affinity-matured homotypic interactions.
The authors have addressed most of our previous comments in their revised manuscript.
One of the main conclusions in the paper is the binding of B1E11K to RESAs which are blood stage antigens that are exported to the infected parasite surface. In the future, it would be interesting to understand if B1E11K mAb binds to the red cell surface of infected blood stage parasites to understand its cellular localization in those stages.
Materials and Methods:<br /> PBMC sampling: While the authors have provided clarification that they obtained informed consent from the PBMC donor, they have not added the ethics approval codes in this section.
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The manuscript from Amen et al reports the isolation and characterization of human antibodies that recognize proteins expressed at different sexual stages of Plasmodium falciparum. The isolation approach was antigen agnostic and based on the sorting, activation, and screening of memory B cells from a donor whose serum displays high transmission-reducing activity. From this effort, 14 antibodies were produced and further characterized. The antibodies displayed a range of transmission-reducing activities and recognized different Pf sexual stage proteins. However, none of these antibodies had substantially higher TRA than previously described antibodies.
The authors then performed further characterization of antibody B1E11K, which was unique in that it recognized multiple proteins expressed during sexual and asexual stages. Using protein microarrays, B1E11K was shown to recognize glutamate-rich repeats, following an EE-XX-EE pattern. An impressive set of biophysical experiments were performed to extensively characterize the interactions of B1E11K with various repeat motifs and lengths. Ultimately, the authors succeeded in determining a 2.6 A resolution crystal structure of B1E11K bound to a 16AA repeat-containing peptide. Excitingly, the structure revealed that two Fabs bound simultaneously to the peptide and made homotypic antibody-antibody contacts. This had only previously been observed before with antibodies directed against CSP repeats.
Overall I found the manuscript to be very well written. Strengths of the manuscript include the target-agnostic screening approach and the thorough characterization of antibodies. The demonstration that B1E11K is cross-reactive to multiple proteins containing glutamate-rich repeats, and that the antibody recognizes the repeats via homotypic interactions, similar to what has been observed for CSP repeat-directed antibodies, should be of interest to many in the field.
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This manuscript introduced a new behavioral apparatus to regulate the animal's behavioral state naturally. It is a thermal maze where different sectors of the maze can be set to different temperatures; once the rest area of the animal is cooled down, it will start searching for a warmer alternative region to settle down again. They recorded with silicon probes from the hippocampus in the maze and found that the incidence of SWRs was higher at the rest areas and place cells representing a rest area were preferentially active during rest-SWRs as well but not during non-REM sleep.
Strengths:
The maze can have many future applications, e.g., see how the duration of waking immobility can influence learning, future memory recall, or sleep reactivation. It represents an out-of-the-box thinking to study and control less-studies aspects of the animals' behavior.
Weaknesses:
The impact is only within behavioral research and hippocampal electrophysiology.
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The present study explored the principles that allow cells to maintain complex subcellular proteinaceous structures despite the limited lifetimes of the individual protein components. This is particularly critical in the case of neurons, where the size and protein composition of synapses define synaptic strength and encode memory.
PSD95 is an abundant synapse protein that acts as a scaffold in the recruitment of transmitter receptors and other signaling proteins and is required for memory formation. The authors used super-resolution microscopy to study PSD95 super-complexes isolated from the brains of mice expressing tagged PSD variants (Halo-Tag, mEos, GFP). Their results show compellingly that a large fraction (~25%) of super-complexes contains two PSD95 copies about 13 nm apart, that there is substantial turnover of PSD95 proteins in super-complexes over a period of seven days, and that ~5-20% of the super-complexes contain new and old PSD95 molecules. This percentage is higher in synaptic fractions as compared to total brain lysates, and highest in isocortex samples (~20%). These important findings support the hypothesis put forward by Crick that sequential subunit replacement gives synaptic super-complexes long lifetimes and thus aids in memory maintenance. Overall, this is a very interesting study that provides key insights into how synaptic protein complexes are formed and maintained. On the other hand, the actual role of these PSD95 super-complexes in long-term memory storage remains unknown. Specifically, a direct correlation between PSD95 stability and memory formation remains hypothetical - but the present findings indicate important new directions for studying the mechanisms that control postsynaptic protein organisation and the maintenance of postsynaptic proteinaceous substructures.
Strengths
(1) The study employed an appropriate and validated methodology.<br /> (2) Large numbers of PSD95 super-complexes from three different mouse models were imaged and analyzed, providing adequately powered sample sizes.<br /> (3) State-of-the-art super-resolution imaging techniques (PALM and MINFLUX) were used, providing a robust, high-quality, cross-validated analysis of PSD95 protein complexes that is useful for the community.<br /> (4) The result that PSD95 proteins in dimeric complexes are on average 12.7 nm apart is useful and has implications for studies on the nanoscale organization of PSD95 at synapses.<br /> (5) The finding that postsynaptic protein complexes can continue to exist while individual components are being renewed is important for our understanding of synapse maintenance and stability.<br /> (6) The data on the turnover rate of PSD95 in super-complexes from different brain regions provide a first indication of potentially meaningful differences in the lifetime of super-complexes between brain regions.
Weaknesses
(1) The manuscript emphasizes the hypothesis that stable super-complexes, maintained through sequential replacement of subunits, might underlie the long-term storage of memory. While an interesting idea, this notion requires considerably more research. The presented experimental data are indeed consistent with this notion, but there is no evidence that these complexes are causally related to memory storage.<br /> (2) Much of the presented work is performed on biochemically isolated protein complexes. The biochemical isolation procedures rely on physical disruption and detergents that are known to alter the composition and structure of complexes in certain cases. Thus, it remains unclear how the protein complexes described in this study relate to PSD95 complexes in intact synapses.<br /> (3) Because not all GFP molecules mature and fold correctly in vitro and the PSD95-mEos mice used were heterozygous, the interpretation of the corresponding quantifications is not straightforward.<br /> (4) It was not tested whether different numbers of PSD95 molecules per super-complex might contribute to different retention times of PSD95, e.g. in synaptic vs. total-forebrain super-complexes.<br /> (5) The conclusion that the population of 'mixed' synapses is higher in the isocortex than in other brain regions is not supported by statistical analysis.<br /> (6) The validity of conclusions regarding PSD95 degradation based on relative changes in the occurrence of SiR-Halo-positive puncta is limited.
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Cav1.4 calcium channels control voltage-dependent calcium influx at photoreceptor synapses, and congenital loss of Cav1.4 function causes stationary night blindness CSNB2. Based on a broad portfolio of methodological approaches - genetic mouse models, immunolabeling and microscopic imaging, serial block-face-SEM, ERGs, and electrophysiology - the authors show that cone photoreceptor synapse development is strongly perturbed in the absence of Cav1.4 protein, and that expression of a nonconducting Cav1.4 channel mitigates these perturbations. Further data indicate that Cav3 channels are present, which, according to the authors, may compensate for the loss of Cav1.4 calcium currents and thus maintain cone synaptic transmission. These data, which are in agreement with a similar study by the same authors on rod photoreceptor synapses, help to explain what functional defects exactly cause CSNB2 and why it is accompanied by only mild visual impairment.
The strengths of the present study are its conceptual and experimental soundness, the broad spectrum of cutting-edge methodological approaches pursued, and the convincing differential analysis of mutant phenotypes. Weaknesses mainly concern the fact that the mechanism by which Cav3 channels might partially compensate for the loss of Cav1.4 calcium currents remains unclear.
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This paper attempts to measure the complex changes of consciousness in the human brain as a whole. Inspired by the perturbational complexity index (PCI) from classic research, authors introduce simulation PCI (𝑠𝑃𝐶𝐼) of a time series of brain activity as a measure of consciousness. They first use large-scale brain network modeling to explore its relationship with the network coupling and input noise. Then the authors verify the measure with empirical data collected in previous research.
Strengths:
The conceptual idea of the work is novel. The authors measure the complexity of brain activity from the perspective of dynamical systems. They provide a comparison of the proposed measure with four other indexes. The text of this paper is very concise, supported by experimental data and theoretical model analysis.
Weaknesses:
(1) Consciousness is a network phenomenon. The measure defined by the authors is to consider the maximal sPCI across the nodes stimulated. This measure is based on the time series of one node. The measure may be less effective in quantifying the ill relationship between nodes. This may contribute to the less predictive power of anesthesia (Figure 4b).
(2) One of the focuses of the work is the use of a dynamic model of brain networks. The explanation of the model needs to be in more detail.
(3) The equations should be checked. For example, there should be no max on the left side of the first equation on page 13.
(4) The quality of the figures should be improved.
(5) Figure 4 should be discussed and analyzed more in the text.
(6) The usage of the terms PCI and sPCI should be distinguished.
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Reviewer #2 (Public Review):
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Breyton and colleagues analysed the emergent dynamics from a neural mass model, characterised the resultant complexity of the dynamics, and then related these signatures of complexity to datasets in which individuals had been anaesthetised with different pharmacological agents. The results provide a coherent explanation for observations associated with different time series metrics, and further help to reinforce the importance of modelling when integrating across scientific studies.
Strengths:
* The modelling approach was clear, well-reasoned, and explicit, allowing for direct comparison to other work and potential elaboration in future studies through the augmentation with richer neurobiological detail.
* The results serve to provide a potential mechanistic basis for the observation that the Perturbational Complexity Index changes as a function of the consciousness state.
Weaknesses:
* Coactivation cascades were visually identified, rather than observed through an algorithmic lens. Given that there are numerous tools for quantifying the presence/absence of cascades from neuroimaging data, the authors may benefit from formalising this notion.
* It was difficult to tell, graphically, where the model's operating regime lay. Visual clarity here will greatly benefit the reader.
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This interesting study, which has greatly improved in the current revised version, explores the mechanism behind an increased susceptibility of daf-18/PTEN mutant nematodes to paralyzing drugs that exacerbate cholinergic transmission. The authors use state-of-the-art genetics and neurogenetics coupled with locomotor behavior monitoring and neuroanatomical observations using gene expression reporters to show that the susceptibility occurs due to low levels of DAF-18/PTEN in developing inhibitory GABAergic neurons early during larval development (specifically, during the larval L1 stage). DAF-18/PTEN is convincingly shown to act cell-autonomously in these cells upstream of the PI3K-PDK-1-AKT-DAF-16/FOXO pathway, consistent with its well-known role as an antagonist of this conserved signaling pathway. The authors exclude a role for the TOR pathway in this process and present evidence implicating selectivity towards-developing GABAergic neurons of the ventral nerve cord in comparison to excitatory cholinergic neurons. Finally, the authors show that a diet supplemented with a ketogenic body, β-hydroxybutyrate, which also counteracts the PI3K-PDK-1-AKT pathway, promoting DAF-16/FOXO activity, partially rescues the proper development (morphology and function) of GABAergic neurons in daf-18/PTEN mutants, but only if the diet is provided early during larval development. This strongly suggests that the critical function of DAF-18/PTEN in developing inhibitory GABAergic neurons is to prevent excessive PI3K-PDK-1-AKT activity during this critical and particularly sensitive period of their development in juvenile L1 stage worms. Whether or not the sensitivity of GABAergic neurons to DAF-18/PTEN function is a defining and widespread characteristic of this class of neurons in C. elegans and other animals, or rather a particularity of the early developmental stage of the GABAergic neurons investigated remains to be determined.
Strengths:
The study reports interesting and important findings, advancing the knowledge of how daf-18/PTEN and the PI3K-PDK-1-AKT pathway can influence neurodevelopment, and providing a valuable paradigm to study the selectivity of gene activities towards certain neurons. It also defines a solid paradigm to study the potential of dietary interventions (such as ketogenic diets) or other drug treatments to counteract (prevent or revert?) neurodevelopment defects and stimulate DAF-16/FOXO activity.
Weaknesses:
The fact that other non-GABAergic C. elegans neurons (i.e., AIY and HSN neurons) are also sensitive to DAF-18/PTEN activity during development suggests that the particular sensitivity observed in the GABAergic ventral nerve cord neurons in this study could be unrelated to their neurotransmitter class (GABAergic) per se, but rather to some other neuronal property (a critical period of plasticity or activity-based wiring?) that these neurons share with the AIY and HSN neurons, and not with the other surveyed ventral nerve cord neurons (the excitatory cholinergic neurons). The relevance of this possibility within the framework of understanding the role of DAF-18/PTEN in E/I imbalance across clades is not fully clear at this stage.
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Disruption of the excitatory/inhibitory (E/I) balance have been reported in Autism Spectrum disorders (ASD) to which PTEN mutations have been associated. Giunti et al choose to explore the impact of PTEN mutations on the balance between E/I signaling using as a platform the C. elegans neuromuscular system where both cholinergic (E) and GABAergic (I) motor neurons regulate muscle contraction and relaxation. Mutations in daf-18/PTEN specifically affect morphologically and functionally the GABAergic (I) system, while leaving the cholinergic (E) system unaffected. The study further reveals that the observed defects in the GABAergic system in daf-18/PTEN mutants are attributed to reduced activity of DAF-16/FOXO during development.<br /> Moreover, ketogenic diets (KGDs), known for their effectiveness in disorders associated with E/I imbalances such as epilepsy and ASD, are found to induce DAF-16/FOXO during early development. Supplementation with β-hydroxybutyrate in the nematode at early developmental stages proves to be both necessary and sufficient to correct the effects on GABAergic signaling in daf-18/PTEN mutants.
Strengths:
The authors combined pharmacological, behavior and optogenetic experiments to show the GABAergic signaling impairment at the C. elegans neuromuscular junction in DAF-18/PTEN and DAF-16/FOXO mutants. Moreover, by studying the neuron morphology, they point towards neurodevelopmental defects in the GABAergic motoneurons involved in locomotion. Using the same set of experiments, they demonstrate that a ketogenic diet can rescue the inhibitory defect in the daf-18/PTEN mutant at an early stage.
Weaknesses:
The morphological experiments hint towards a pre-synaptic defect to explain the GABAergic signaling impairment, but it would have also been interesting to check the post-synaptic part of the inhibitory neuromuscular junctions such as the GABA receptor clusters to assess if the impairment is only presynaptic or both post and presynaptic. Moreover, analysing post-synaptic functionality in-depth using electrophysiology would be beneficial too.<br /> Nevertheless, this question alone could be entirely the subject of another paper and is not essential to the primary message of the paper.
Conclusion:
Giunti et al provide fundamental insights into the connection between PTEN mutations and neurodevelopmental defects through DAF-16/FOXO and shed light on the mechanisms through which ketogenic diets positively impact neuronal disorders characterized by E/I imbalances.
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Reviewer #3 (Public Review):
Summary:
This is a conceptually appealing study by Giunti et al in which the authors identify a role for PTEN/daf-18 and daf-16/FOXO in the development of inhibitory GABA neurons, and then demonstrate that a diet rich in ketone body β-hydroxybutyrate partially suppresses the PTEN mutant phenotypes. The authors use three assays to assess their phenotypes: 1) pharmacological assays (with levamisole and aldicarb); 2) locomotory assays and 3) cell morphological assays. These assays are carefully performed and the article is clearly written. While neurodevelopmental phenotypes had been previously demonstrated for PTEN/daf-18 and daf-16/FOXO (in other neurons), and while KB β-hydroxybutyrate had been previously shown to increase daf-16/FOXO activity (in the context of aging), this study is significant because it demonstrates the importance of KB β-hydroxybutyrate and DAF-16 in the context of neurodevelopment. Conceptually, and to my knowledge, this is the first evidence I have seen of a rescue of a developmental defect with a dietary metabolic intervention, linking, in an elegant way, the underpinning genetic mechanisms with novel metabolic pathways that could be used to circumvent the defects.
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The authors are interested in the developmental origin of the neurons of the cerebellar nuclei. They identify a population of neurons with a specific complement of markers originating in a distinct location from where cerebellar nuclear precursor cells have been thought to originate that show distinct developmental properties. The cerebellar nuclei have been well studied in recent years to understand their development through an evolutionary lens, which supports the importance of this study. The discovery of a new germinal zone giving rise to a new population of CN neurons is an exciting finding, and it enriches our understanding of cerebellar development, which has previously been quite straightforward, where cerebellar inhibitory cells arise from the ventricular zone and the excitatory cells arise from the rhombic lip.
Strengths:
One of the strengths of the manuscript is that the authors use a wide range of technical approaches, including transgenic mice that allow them to disentangle the influence of distinct developmental organizers such at ATOH.<br /> Their finding of a novel germinal zone and a novel population of CN neurons is important for developmental neuroscientists, cerebellar neuroscientists.
Weaknesses:
One important question raised by this work is what do these newly identified cells eventually become in the adult cerebellum. Are they excitatory or inhibitory? Do they correspond to a novel cell type or perhaps one of the cell classes that have been recently identified in the cerebellum (e.g. Fujita et al., eLife, 2020)? Understanding this would significantly bolster the impact of this manuscript.
The major weakness of the manuscript is that it is written for a very specialized reader who has a strong background in cerebellar development, making it hard to read for eLife's general audience. It's challenging to follow the logic of some of the experiments as well as to contextualize these findings in the field of cerebellar development.
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Canonically cerebellar neurons are derived from 2 primary germinal zones within the anterior hindbrain (dorsal rhombomere 1). This manuscript identifies an important, previously underappreciated origin for a subset of early cerebellar nuclei neurons - likely the mesencephalon. This is an exciting finding.
Strengths:
The authors have identified a novel early population of cerebellar neurons with likely novel origin in the midbrain. They have used multiple assays to support their conclusions, including immunohistochemistry and in situ analyses of a number of markers of this population which appear to stream from the midbrain into the dorsal anterior cerebellar anlage.
The inclusion of Otx2-GFP short term lineage analyses and analysis of Atoh1 -/- animals also provide considerable support for the midbrain origin of these neurons as streams of cells seem to emanate from the midbrain. However, without live imaging there remains the possibility that these streams of cells are not actually migrating and rather, gene expression is changing in static cells. Hence the authors have conducted midbrain diI labelling experiments of short term and long term cultured embryos showing di-labelled cells in the developing cerebellum. These studies confirm migration of cells from the midbrain into the early cerebellum.
The authors have appropriately responded to review issues, replacing panels in figures and updating legends and text. They have also appropriately noted the limitations of their work.
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Complexin (Cplx) is expressed at nearly all chemical synapses. Mammalian Cplx comes in four different paralogs which are differentially expressed in different neurons or secretory cell types, either selectively or in combination with one or two other Cplx isoforms. Cplx binds with high affinity to assembled SNARE complexes and promotes evoked synchronous release. Cplx is assumed to preclude premature SV fusion by preventing full SNARE assembly, thereby arresting subsequent SNARE-driven fusion ("fusion-clamp" theory). The protein has multiple domains, the functions of which are controversially discussed. Cplx's function has been studied in a variety of model organisms including mouse, fly, worm, and fish with seemingly conflicting results which led to partly contradicting conclusions.<br /> Makee et al. study the function of mammalian Cplx2 in chromaffin cells by making use of Cplx2 ko mice to overexpress and functionally characterize mutant Cplx2 forms in cultured chromaffin cells. The main conclusion of the present study are:
The hydrophobic character of the amphipathic helix in Cplx's C-terminal domain is essential for inhibiting premature vesicle fusion at a [Ca2+]i of several hundreds of nM (pre-flash [Ca2+]i). The Cplx-mediated inhibition of fusion under these conditions does not rely on expression of either Syt1 or Syt7.
Slow-down of exocytosis by N-terminally truncated Cplx mutants in response to a [Ca2+]i of several µM (peak flash [Ca2+]i) occurs regardless of the presence or absence of Syt7 demonstrating that Cplx2 does not act as a switch favoring preferential assembly of the release machinery with Syt1,2 rather than the "slow" sensor Syt7.
Cplx's N-terminal domain is required for the Cplx2-mediated increase in the speed of exocytosis and faster onset of exocytosis which likely reflect an increased apparent Ca2+ sensitivity and faster Ca2+ binding of the release machinery.
Strengths:
The authors perform systematic truncation/mutational analyses of Cplx2. They analyze the impact of single and combined deficiencies for Cplx2 and Syt1 to establish interactions of both proteins.<br /> State-of-the-art methods are employed: Vesicle exocytosis is assayed directly and with high resolution using capacitance measurements. Intracellular [Ca2+] is controlled by loading via the patch-pipette and by UV-light induced flash-photolysis of caged [Ca2+]. The achieved [Ca2+ ] is measured with Ca2+ -sensitive dyes.<br /> The data is of high quality and the results are compelling.
Weaknesses:
With the exception of mammalian retinal ribbon synapses (and some earlier RNAi knock down studies which had off-target effects), there is little experimental evidence for a "fusion-clamp"-like function of Cplxs at mammalian synapses. At conventional mammalian synapses, genetic loss of Cplx (i.e. KO) consistently decreases AP-evoked release, and generally either also decreases spontaneous release rates or does not affect spontaneous release, which is inconsistent with a "fusion-clamp" theory. This is in stark contrast to invertebrate (D. m. and C. e.) synapses where genetic Cplx loss is generally associated with a strong upregulation of spontaneous release.
There are alternative scenarios explaining how Cplx may phenomenological "clamp" vesicle fusion rates without mechanistically assigning a "clamping" function to Cplx (Neher 2010, Neuron). In fact, changes in asynchronous release kinetics following conditioning AP trains observed at Cplx1 ko calyx of Held synapses do not favor a "fusion clamp" model (Chang et al., 2015, J.Neurosci.), while an alternative model, assigning Cplx the role of a "checkpoint" protein in SNARE assembly, quantitatively reproduces all experimental observations (Lopez et al., 2024, PNAS). It might be helpful for a reader to mention such alternative scenarios.
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Summary:
Using chromaffin cells as a powerful model system for studying secretion, the authors study the regulatory role of complexin in secretion. Complexin is still enigmatic in its regulatory role, as it both provides inhibitory and facilitatory functions in release. The authors perform an extensive structure-function analysis of both the C- and N-terminal regions of complexin. There are several interesting findings that significantly advances our understanding of cpx/SNARe interactions in regulating release. C-terminal amphipathic helix interferes with SNARE complex assembly and thus clamps fusion. There are acidic residues in the C-term that may be seen as putative interaction partners for Synaptotagmin. The N-terminus of Complexin promoting role may be associated with an interaction with Syt1. In particular the putative interaction with Syt1 is of high interest and supported by quite strong functional and biochemical evidence. The experimental approaches are state of the art, and the results are of the highest quality and convincing throughout. They are adequate and intelligently discussed in the rich context of the standing literature. Whilst there are some concerns about whether the facilitatory actions of complexion have to be tightly linked to Syt1 interactions, the proposed model will significantly advance the field by providing new directions in future research.
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Summary:
Glaser et al present ExA-SPIM, a light-sheet microscope platform with large volumetric coverage (Field of view 85mm^2, working distance 35mm ), designed to image expanded mouse brains in their entirety. The authors also present an expansion method optimized for whole mouse brains, and an acquisition software suite. The microscope is employed in imaging an expanded mouse brain, the macaque motor cortex and human brain slices of white matter.<br /> This is impressive work, and represents a leap over existing light-sheet microscopes. As an example, it offers a ~ fivefold higher resolution than mesoSPIM (https://mesospim.org/), a popular platform for imaging large cleared samples. Thus while this work is rooted in optical engineering, it manifests a huge step forward and has the potential to become an important tool in the neurosciences.
Strengths:
-ExA-SPIM features an exceptional combination of field of view, working distance, resolution and throughput.
-An expanded mouse brain can be acquired with only 15 tiles, lowering the burden on computational stitching. That the brain does not need to be mechanically sectioned is also seen as an important capability.
-The image data is compelling, and tracing of neurons has been performed. This demonstrates the potential of the microscope platform.
Weaknesses:
-There is a general question about the scaling laws of lenses, and expansion microscopy, which in my opinion remained unanswered: In the context of whole brain imaging, a larger expansion factor requires a microscope system with larger volumetric coverage, which in turn will have lower resolution (Figure 1B). So what is optimal? Could one alternatively image a cleared (non-expanded) brain with a high resolution ASLM system (Chakraborty, Tonmoy, Nature Methods 2019, potentially upgraded with custom objectives) and get similar effective resolution as the authors get with expansion? This is not meant to diminish the achievement, but it was unclear if the gains in resolution from the expansion factor are traded off by the scaling laws of current optical systems.
-It was unclear if 300 nm lateral and 800 nm axial resolution is enough for many questions in neuroscience. Segmenting spines, distinguishing pre- and postsynaptic densities, or tracing densely labeled neurons might be challenging. A discussion about the necessary resolution levels in neuroscience would be appreciated.
-Would it be possible to characterize the aberrations that might be still present after whole brain expansion? One approach could be to image small fluorescent nanospheres behind the expanded brain, and recover the pupil function via phase retrieval. But even full width half maximum (FWHM) measurements of the nanospheres' images would give some idea of the magnitude of the aberrations.
Review of the revised manuscript:
The authors have carefully addressed my concerns and suggestions.
I appreciate the extended discussion on tissue clearing compared to expansion. I would recommend substantiating some of the statements though with references, or in other instances expanding a little further. I would encourage the authors to consider the points below. But there is also another path to actually reduce that specific discussion, if the conclusion is that it opened more questions than answers.
Specifically, here are some points in the paragraph that discusses tissue clearing and expansion that could be improved:<br /> -The statement "Spherical aberration increases with NA" reads nonspecific to me. I think a more precise formulation would be "The effect of spherical aberration (e.g. loss of Strehl ratio) increases with NA. The stated third power law would also benefit from a reference.<br /> -The statement "the index of refraction gradients in tissue decreases with the third power of the expansion factor..." reads a bit odd. "Gradients in refractive index" would be more consistent with the usage of r.i. throughout the manuscript.<br /> For the third power law, it might be important to know what drives the remaining refractive index variation in expansion microscopy. If it is the labels and their linkers, then indeed, they get increasingly diluted as their amount remains constant. However, if the aberrations are caused by the polymer gel, I would assume you would need more monomer material for higher expansion factors? Thus, I was not fully sure about the scaling law in this case. If there is a reference where this was explored in detail, that would resolve this issue.
-The statement that aberrations scale with gradients in refractive index also needs either a reference, or an explanation for the reader. I think figure S4 was supposed to illustrate this, but was not referenced in the discussion (and could be clarified, see comment below).
To me, the discussion focused strongly on tissue clearing vs expansion. What was left out in the discussion was if larger expansion factors would be favorable (i.e. whole brain imaging with 10-20X expansion instead of 4-5X). Some arguments implicitly seemed to stipulate that a larger expansion factor would optically be favorable. But Figure S7 highlights another tradeoff with the decay in sensitivity and Figure 1b provides the technological constraints on lens design. So as a reader, I was not fully sure if the next frontier should be 10-20X expansion brain imaging, or if 4-5X is currently a sweet spot.
Further comments:
Please explain the variables in Figure S4, such as F, WD and d. It was unclear to me what the RI profile should mean in the bottom row. Naively, the figure of merit would be the optical path length that is integrated along the different rays, as this leads to a variation in the wavefront.
Figure S5: I would caution to say the SNR was quantified, but rather say it was estimated (in the shot noise limit). Was the background subtracted for the SNR measurements?<br /> Squaring the SNR estimates, it looks like the photon counts went down ~10-fold from z=2mm to z=25mm. That is a larger reduction in signal than I had expected. If it was based solely on aberrations, a 10-fold drop in Strehl ratio seems significant (potentially smaller if we assume the light-sheet also underwent aberrations). Are there other factors that could explain the signal reduction (maybe from the labeling side)?<br /> Further on Figure S5: Fourier transforms (power spectrum) and single line profiles are in my opinion not the best way to quantify resolution. Could the authors perform image decorrelation analysis on the region of interest (Descloux, A., Kristin Stefanie Grußmayer, and Aleksandra Radenovic. "Parameter-free image resolution estimation based on decorrelation analysis." Nature methods 2019) or Fourier ring correlation? This would give in some sense an average resolving power in that depth, and would remove the bias from picking a line profile.
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Summary:
In this revised manuscript, Glaser et al. have responded to the reviewer comments by removing some of the overstated claims from the prior manuscript and editing portions of the manuscript text to enhance the clarity. Although the manuscript would be stronger if the authors had been able to provide data that justified the original high-impact claims from the initial publication (e.g. that the images could be used for robust and automated neuronal tracing across large volumes), the amended manuscript text now more closely matches the supporting data. As with the initial submission, I believe that the microscope design and characterization is a useful contribution to the field and the data are quite stunning. However, I still feel like there are some overstated claims in this revision that should be addressed so as not to mislead readers.
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Abreo et al., performed a detailed multidisciplinary analysis of a pathogenic variant of the KCNQ2 ion channel subunit identified in a child with neonatal-onset epilepsy and neurodevelopmental disorders. These analyses revealed multiple molecular and cellular mechanisms associated with this variant, and providing important insights into what distinguishes distinct pathogenic variants of KCNQ2 associated with self-limited familial neonatal epilepsy versus those leading to developmental and epileptic encephalopathy, and how they may mechanistically differ, to result in different extents of developmental impairment. The authors first provide a detailed clinical description of the patient heterozygous for a novel pathogenic variant encoding KCNQ2 G256W. They then model the structure of the G256W variant based on recent cryo-EM structures of KCNQ2 and other ion channel subunits and find that while the affected position is quite distinct from the channel pore, it participates in a novel, evolutionarily conserved set of amino acids that form a network of hydrogen bonds that stabilize the structure of the pore domain. They then undertake a series of rigorous and quantitative laboratory experiments in which the KCNQ2 G256W variant is coexpressed exogenously with WT KCNQ2 and KCNQ3 subunits in heterologous cells, and endogenously in novel gene edited mice generated for this study. This includes detailed electrophysiological analyses in the transfected heterologous cells revealing the dominant-negative phenotype of KCNQ2 G256W. They find altered firing properties in hippocampal CA1 neurons in brain slices from the heterozygous KCNQ2 G256W mice. They next show that the expression and localization of KCNQ channels is altered in brain neurons from heterozygous KCNQ2 G256W mice, suggesting that this variant impacts KCNQ2 trafficking and stability. Together, these laboratory studies reveal that the molecular and cellular mechanisms shaping KCNQ channel expression, localization and function are impacted at multiple levels by the variant encoding KCNQ2 G256W, likely contributing to the clinical features of the child heterozygous for this variant relative to patients harboring distinct KCNQ2 pathogenic variants.
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Summary:
This manuscript describes the symptoms of patients harboring KCNQ2 mutation G256W, functional changes of the mutant channel in exogenous expression, and phenotypes of G256W/+ mice. The patients presented seizures, the mutation reduced currents of the channel, and the G256W/+ mice show seizures, increased firing frequency in neurons, and reduced KCNQ2 expression and altered subcellular distribution.
Strengths:
This is a large amount of work and all results corroborated the pathogenicity of the mutation in KCNQ2, providing an interesting example of KCNQ2-associated neurological disorder's impact on functions at all levels including molecular, cellular, tissue, animal model and patients.
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The hypothesis is based on the idea that inversions capture genetic variants that have antagonistic effects on male sexual success (via some display traits) and survival of females (or both sexes) until reproduction. Furthermore, a sufficiently skewed distribution of male sexual success will tend to generate synergistic epistasis for male fitness even if the individual loci contribute to sexually selected traits in an additive way. This should favor inversions that keep these male-beneficial alleles at different loci together at a cis-LD. A series of simulations are presented and show that the scenario works at least under some conditions. While a polymorphism at a single locus with large antagonistic effects can be maintained for a certain range of parameters, a second such variant with somewhat smaller effects tends to be lost unless closely linked. It becomes much more likely for genomically distant variants that add to the antagonism to spread if they get trapped in an inversion; the model predicts this should drive accumulation of sexually antagonistic variants on the inversion versus standard haplotype, leading to the evolution of haplotypes with very strong cumulative antagonistic pleiotropic effects. This idea has some analogies with one of predominant hypotheses for the evolution of sex chromosomes, and the authors discuss these similarities. The model is quite specific, but the basic idea is intuitive and thus should be robust to the details of the model assumption. It makes perfect sense in the context of the geographic pattern of inversion frequencies.
To provide empirical support for this idea, the authors study the dynamics of inversions in population cages over one generation, tracking their frequencies through amplicon sequencing at three time points: (young adults), embryos and very old adult offspring of either sex (>2 months from adult emergence). Out of four inversions included in the experiment, two show patterns consistent with antagonistic effects on male sexual success (competitive paternity) and the survival of offspring, especially females, until an old age, which the authors interpret as consistent with their theory.
There are several reasons why the support from these data for the proposed theory is not waterproof.
(1) As I have already pointed out in my previous review, survival until 2 months (in fact, it is 10 weeks and so 2.3 months) of age is of little direct relevance to fitness, whether under natural conditions or under typical lab conditions.
The authors argue this objection away with two arguments<br /> First, citing Pool (2015) they claim that the average generation time (i.e. the average age at which flies reproduce) in nature is 24 days. That paper made an estimate of 14.7 generations per year under the North Carolina climate. As also stated in Pool (2015), the conditions in that locality for Drosophila reproduction and development are not suitable during three months of the year. This yields an average generation length of about 19.5 days during the 9 months during which the flies can reproduce. On the highly nutritional food used in the lab and at the optimal temperature of 25 C, Drosophila need about 11-12 days to develop from egg to adult. Even assuming these perfect conditions, the average age (counted from adult eclosion) would be about 8 days. In practice, larval development in nature is likely longer for nutritional and temperature reasons, and thus the genomic data analyzed by Pool imply that the average adult age of reproducing flies in nature would be about 5 days, and not 24 days, and even less 10 weeks. This corresponds neatly to the 2-6 days median life expectancy of Drosophila adults in the field based on capture-recapture (e.g., Rosewell and Shorrocks 1987).<br /> Second, the authors also claim that survival over a period of 2 month is highly relevant because flies have to survive long periods where reproduction is not possible. However, to survive the winter flies enter a reproductive diapause, which involves profound physiological changes that indeed allow them to survive for months, remaining mostly inactive, stress resistant and hidden from predators. Flies in the authors' experiment were not diapausing, given that they were given plentiful food and kept warm. It is still possible that survival to the ripe old age of 10 weeks under these conditions still correlates well with surviving diapause under harsh conditions, but if so, the authors should cite relevant data. Even then, I do not think this allows the authors to conclude that longevity is "the main selective pressure" on Drosophila (l. 936).
(2) It appears that the "parental" (in fact, paternal) inversion frequency was estimated by sequencing sires that survived until the end of the two-week mating period. No information is provided on male mortality during the mating period, but substantial mortality is likely given constant courtship and mating opportunities. If so, the difference between the parental and embryo inversion frequency could reflect the differential survival of males until the point of sampling rather than / in addition to sexual selection.
(3) Finally, irrespective of the above caveats, the experimental data only address one of the elements of the theoretical hypothesis, namely antagonistic effects of inversions on reproduction and survival, notably that of females. It does not test for two other key elements of the proposed theory: the assumption of frequency-dependence of selection on male sexual success, and the prediction of synergistic epistasis for male fitness among genetic variants in the inversion. To be fair, particularly testing the latter prediction would be exceedingly difficult. Nonetheless, these limitations of the experiment mean that the paper is much stronger theoretical than empirical contribution.
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Reviewer #2 (Public Review):
Summary:<br /> In their manuscript the authors address the question of whether the inversion polymorphism in D. melanogaster can be explained by sexually antagonistic selection. They designed a new simulation tool to perform computer simulations, which confirmed their hypothesis. They also show a tradeoff between male reproduction and survival. Furthermore, some inversions display sex-specific survival.
Strengths:<br /> It is an interesting idea on how chromosomal inversions may be maintained
Weaknesses:<br /> General points:<br /> The manuscript lacks clarity of writing. It is impossible to fully grasp what the authors did in this study and how they reached their conclusions. Therefore, I cannot guarantee that I spotted all the problems in the study and in my review I will only highlight some cases that I found problematic.<br /> Although this is an interesting idea, but it clearly cannot explain the apparent influence of seasonal and clinal variation on inversion frequencies.
Comments on the latest version:
I would like to give an example of the confusing terminology of the authors:
"Additionally, fitness conveyed by an allele favoring display quality is also frequency-dependent: since mating success depends on the display qualities of other males, the relative advantage of a display trait will be diminished as more males carry it..."
I do not understand the difference to an advantageous allele, as it increases in frequency the frequency increase of this allele decreases, but this has nothing to do with frequency dependent selection. In my opinion, the authors re-define frequency dependent selection, as for frequency dependent selection needs to change with frequency, but from their verbal description this is not clear.
One example of how challenging the style of the manuscript is comes from their description of the DNA extraction procedure. In principle a straightforward method, but even here the authors provide a convoluted uninformative description of the procedure.
It is not apparent to the reviewer why the authors have not invested more effort to make their manuscript digestible.
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Reviewer #3 (Public Review):
Summary:<br /> In this study, McAllester and Pool develop a new simulation model to explain the maintenance of balanced inversion polymorphism, based on (sexually) antagonistic alleles and a trade-off between male reproduction and survival (in females or both sexes). In support of the plausibility of this model, the authors use laboratory experiments on four naturally occurring inversion polymorphisms in Drosophila melanogaster, finding evidence for the existence of the above-mentioned trade-off in two out of the four cases.
Strengths:<br /> (1) The study develops and analyzes a new (Drosophila melanogaster-inspired) model for the maintenance of balanced inversion polymorphism, combining elements of (sexually) antagonistically (pleiotropic) alleles, negative frequency-dependent selection and synergistic epistasis. To this end, the authors develop and use a new simulator.
(2) The above-mentioned model assumes, as a specific example, a trade-off between male reproductive display and survival; in the second part of their study, the authors perform laboratory experiments on four common D. melanogaster inversions to study whether these polymorphisms may be subject to such a trade-off. The authors find that two of the four inversions show suggestive evidence that is consistent with a trade-off between male reproduction and survival. The new amplicon sequencing approach to track inversion frequencies used by the authors seems promising in terms of studying fitness effects / trade-offs associated with polymorphic inversions and how such effects play out dynamically.
Weaknesses:<br /> A gap in the current modeling is that, while a diploid situation is being studied, the model does not investigate the effects of varying degrees of dominance. It would be important and interesting to fill this gap in future work.
Comments on the latest version:
Most of the comments which I have made in my public review have been adequately addressed.
Some of the writing still seems somewhat verbose and perhaps not yet maximally succinct; some additional line-by-line polishing might still be helpful at this stage in terms of further improving clarity and flow (for the authors to consider and decide).
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Malaria parasites detoxify free heme molecules released from digested host hemoglobins by biomineralizing them into inert hemozoin. Thus, why malaria parasites retain PfHO, a dead enzyme that loses the capacity of catabolizing heme, is an outstanding question that has puzzled researchers for more than a decade. In the current manuscript, the authors addressed this question by first solving the crystal structure of PfHO and aligning it with structures of other heme oxygenase (HO) proteins. They found that the N-terminal 95 residues of PfHO, which failed to crystalize due to their disordered nature, may serve as signal and transit peptides for PfHO subcellular localization. This was confirmed by subsequent microscopic analysis with episomally expressed PfHO-GFP and a GFP reporter fused to the first 83 residues of PfHO (PfHO N-term-GFP). To investigate the functional importance of PfHO, the authors generated an anhydrotetracycline (aTC) controlled PfHO knockdown strain. Strikingly, the parasites lacking PfHO failed to grow and lost their apicoplast. Finally, by chromatin immunoprecipitation (ChIP), quantitative PCR/RT-PCR, and growth assays, the authors showed that both the cognate N-terminus and HO-like domain were required for PfHO function as an apicoplast DNA interacting protein.
The authors systemically performed multidisciplinary approaches to address this difficult question: what is the function of this enzymatically dead PfHO? I enjoyed reading this manuscript and its thoughtful discussion. This study is not of clinical importance for antimalarial treatments but also deepens our understanding of protein function evolution. While I understand these experiments are challenging to conduct in malaria parasites, the data quality of some of the experiments could be improved. For example, most of the Western blots and Southern blots are not of high quality.
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Summary:
Blackwell et al. investigated the structure, localization, and physiological function of Plasmodium falciparum (Pf) heme oxygenase (HO). Pf and other malaria parasites scavenge and digest large amounts of hemoglobin from red cells for sustenance. To counter the potentially cytotoxic effects of heme, it is biomineralized into hemozoin and stored in the food vacuole. Another mechanism to counteract heme toxicity is through its enzymatic degradation via heme oxygenases. However, it was previously found by the authors that PfHO lacks the ability to catalyze heme degradation, raising the intriguing question of what the physiological function of PfHO is. In the current contribution, the authors determine that PfHO localizes to the apicoplast, determine its targeting sequence, establish the essentiality of PfHO for parasite viability, and determine that PfHO is required for proper maintenance of apicoplasts and apicoplast gene expression. In sum, the authors establish an essential physiological function for PfHO, thereby providing new insights into the role of PfHO in plasmodium metabolism.
Strengths:
The studies are rigorously conducted and the results of the experiments unambiguously support a role for PfHO as being an apicoplast-targeted protein required for parasite viability and maintenance of apicoplasts.
Weaknesses:
While the studies conducted are rigorous and support the primary conclusions, the lack of experiments probing the molecular function of PfHO limits the impact of the work. Nevertheless, the knowledge that PfHO is required for parasite viability and plays a role in the maintenance of apicoplasts is still an important advance.
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Summary:
This paper investigates the effects of the explicit recognition of statistical structure and sleep consolidation on the transfer of learned structure to novel stimuli. The results show a striking dissociation in transfer ability between explicit and implicit learning of structure, finding that only explicit learners transfer structure immediately. Implicit learners, on the other hand, show an intriguing immediate structural interference effect (better learning of novel structure) followed by successful transfer only after a period of sleep.
Strengths:
This paper is very well written and motivated, and the data are presented clearly with a logical flow. There are several replications and control experiments and analyses that make the pattern of results very compelling. The results are novel and intriguing, providing important constraints on theories of consolidation. The discussion of relevant literature is thorough. In summary, this work makes an exciting and important contribution to the literature.
Weaknesses:
There have been several recent papers that have identified issues with alternative forced choice (AFC) tests as a method of assessing statistical learning (e.g. Isbilen et al. 2020, Cognitive Science). A key argument is that while statistical learning is typically implicit, AFC involves explicit deliberation and therefore does not match the learning process well. The use of AFC in this study thus leaves open the question of whether the AFC measure benefits the explicit learners in particular, given the congruence between knowledge and testing format, and whether, more generally, the results would have been different had the method of assessing generalization been implicit. Prior work has shown that explicit and implicit measures of statistical learning do not always produce the same results (eg. Kiai & Melloni, 2021, bioRxiv; Liu et al. 2023, Cognition).
Given that the explicit/implicit classification was based on an exit survey, it is unclear when participants who are labeled "explicit" gained that explicit knowledge. This might have occurred during or after either of the sessions, which could impact the interpretation of the effects.
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Summary:
Sleep has not only been shown to support the strengthening of memory traces but also their transformation. A special form of such transformation is the abstraction of general rules from the presentation of individual exemplars. The current work used large online experiments with hundreds of participants to shed further light on this question. In the training phase, participants saw composite items (scenes) that were made up of pairs of spatially coupled (i.e., they were next to each other) abstract shapes. In the initial training, they saw scenes made up of six horizontally structured pairs, and in the second training phase, which took place after a retention phase (2 min awake, 12 h incl. sleep, 12 h only wake, 24 h incl. sleep), they saw pairs that were horizontally or vertically coupled. After the second training phase, a two-alternatives-forced-choice (2-AFC) paradigm, where participants had to identify true pairs versus randomly assembled foils, was used to measure the performance of all pairs. Finally, participants were asked five questions to identify, if they had insight into the pair structure, and post-hoc groups were assigned based on this. Mainly the authors find that participants in the 2-minute retention experiment without explicit knowledge of the task structure were at chance level performance for the same structure in the second training phase, but had above chance performance for the vertical structure. The opposite was true for both sleep conditions. In the 12 h wake condition these participants showed no ability to discriminate the pairs from the second training phase at all.
Strengths:
All in all, the study was performed to a high standard and the sample size in the implicit condition was large enough to draw robust conclusions. The authors make several important statistical comparisons and also report an interesting resampling approach. There is also a lot of supplemental data regarding robustness.
Weaknesses:
My main concern regards the small sample size in the explicit group and the lack of experimental control.
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Reviewer #3 (Public Review):
In this project, Garber and Fiser examined how the structure of incidentally learned regularities influences subsequent learning of regularities, that either have the same structure or a different one. Over a series of six online experiments, it was found that the structure (spatial arrangement) of the first set of regularities affected the learning of the second set, indicating that it has indeed been abstracted away from the specific items that have been learned. The effect was found to depend on the explicitness of the original learning: Participants who noticed regularities in the stimuli were better at learning subsequent regularities of the same structure than of a different one. On the other hand, participants whose learning was only implicit had an opposite pattern: they were better in learning regularities of a novel structure than of the same one. This opposite effect was reversed and came to match the pattern of the explicit group when an overnight sleep separated the first and second learning phases, suggesting that the abstraction and transfer in the implicit case were aided by memory consolidation.
These results are interesting and can bridge several open gaps between different areas of study in learning and memory. However, I feel that a few issues in the manuscript need addressing for the results to be completely convincing:
(1) The reported studies have a wonderful and complex design. The complexity is warranted, as it aims to address several questions at once, and the data is robust enough to support such an endeavor. However, this work would benefit from more statistical rigor. First, the authors base their results on multiple t-tests conducted on different variables in the data. Analysis of a complex design should begin with a large model incorporating all variables of interest. Only then, significant findings would warrant further follow-up investigation into simple effects (e.g., first find an interaction effect between group and novelty, and only then dive into what drives that interaction). Furthermore, regardless of the statistical strategy used, a correction for multiple comparisons is needed here. Otherwise, it is hard to be convinced that none of these effects are spurious. Last, there is considerable variation in sample size between experiments. As the authors have conducted a power analysis, it would be good to report that information per each experiment, so readers know what power to expect in each.
(2) Some methodological details in this manuscript I found murky, which makes it hard to interpret results. For example, the secondary results section of Exp1 (under Methods) states that phase 2 foils for one structure were made of items of the other structure. This is an important detail, as it may make testing in phase 2 easier, and tie learning of one structure to the other. As a result, the authors infer a "consistency effect", and only 8 test trials are said to be used in all subsequent analyses of all experiments. I found the details, interpretation, and decision in this paragraph to lack sufficient detail, justification, and visibility. I could not find either of these important design and analysis decisions reflected in the main text of the manuscript or in the design figure. I would also expect to see a report of results when using all the data as originally planned. Similarly, the matched sample analysis is a great addition, but details are missing. Most importantly, it was not clear to me why the same matching method should be used for all experiments instead of choosing the best matching subgroup (regardless of how it was arrived at), and why the nearest-neighbor method with replacement was chosen, as it is not evident from the numbers in Supplementary Table 1 that it was indeed the best-performing method overall. Such omissions hinder interpreting the work.
(3) To me, the most surprising result in this work relates to the performance of implicit participants when phase 2 followed phase 1 almost immediately (Experiment 1 and Supplementary Experiment 1). These participants had a deficit in learning the same structure but a benefit in learning the novel one. The first part is easier to reconcile, as primacy effects have been reported in statistical learning literature, and so new learning in this second phase could be expected to be worse. However, a simultaneous benefit in learning pairs of a new structure ("structural novelty effect") is harder to explain, and I could not find a satisfactory explanation in the manuscript. After possible design and statistical confounds (my previous comments) are ruled out, a deeper treatment of this finding would be warranted, both empirically (e.g., do explicit participants collapse across Experiments 1 and Supplementary Experiment 1 show the same effect?) and theoretically (e.g., why would this phenomenon be unique only to implicit learning, and why would it dissipate after a long awake break?).
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Summary:
The study by Nelson et al. is focused on the formation of the Drosophila Posterior Signaling Center (PSC) which ultimately acts as a niche to support hematopoietic stem cells of the lymph gland (LG). Using a combination of genetics and live imaging, the authors show that PSC cells migrate as a tight collective and associate with multiple tissues during a trajectory that positions them at the posterior of the LG.<br /> This is an important study that identifies Slit-Robo signaling as a regulator of PSC morphogenesis, and highlights the complex relationship of interacting cell types - PSC, visceral mesoderm (VM), and cardioblasts (CBs) - in the coordinated development of these three tissues during organ development. However, one point requiring clarification is the idea that PSC cells exhibit a collective cell migration; it is not clear that the cells are migrating rather than being pushed to a more dorsal position through dorsal closure and/or other similar large-scale embryo movement. This does not detract from the very interesting analysis of PSC morphogenesis as presented.
Strengths:
(1) Using the expression of Hid or Grim to ablate associated tissues, they find evidence that the VM and CB of the dorsal vessel affect PSC migration/morphology whereas the alary muscles do not. Slit is expressed by both VM and CBs, and therefore Slit-Robo signaling was investigated as PSCs express Robo.
(2) Using a combination of approaches, the authors convincingly demonstrate that Slit expression in the CBs and VM acts to support PSC positioning. A strength is the ability to knockdown slit levels in particular tissue types using the Gal4 system and RNAi.
(3) Although in the analysis of robo mutants, the PSC positioning phenotype is weaker in the individual mutants (robo1 and robo2) with only the double mutant (robo1,robo2) exhibiting a phenotype comparable to the slit RNAi. The authors make a reasonable argument that Slit-Robo signaling has an intrinsic effect, likely acting within PSCs because PSCs show a phenotype even when CBs do not (Figure 4G).
(4) New insight into dorsal vessel formation by VM is presented in Figure 4A, B, as loss of the VM can affect dorsal vessel morphogenesis. This result additionally points to the VM as important.
Weaknesses:
(1) The authors are cautioned to temper the result that Slit-Robo signaling is intrinsic to PSC since the loss of robo may affect other cell types (besides CBs and PSCs) to indirectly affect PSC migration/morphogenesis. In fact, in the robo2, robo1 mutant, the VM appears to be incorrectly positioned (Figure 4G).
(2) If possible, the authors should use RNAi to knockdown Robo1 and Robo2 levels specifically in the PSCs if a Gal4 is available; might Antp.Gal4 (Fig 1K) be useful? Even if knockdown is achieved in PSCs+CBs, this would be a better/complementary experiment to support the approach outlined in Figure 4D.
(3) Movies are hard to interpret, as it seems unclear that the PSCs actively migrate rather than being pushed/moved indirectly due to association with VM and CBs/dorsal vessel.
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Reviewer #2 (Public Review):
The paper by Nelson KA, et al. explored the collective migration, coalescence, and positioning of the posterior signaling center (PSC) cells in Drosophila embryo. With live imaging, the authors observed the dynamic progress of PSC migration. Throughout this process, visceral mesoderm (VM), alary muscles (Ams), and cardioblasts (CBs) are in proximity to PSC. Genetic ablation of these tissues reveals the requirement for VM and CBs, but not AMs in this process. Genetic manipulations further demonstrated that Slit-Robo signaling was critical during PSC migration and positioning. While the genetic mechanisms of positioning the PSC were explored in much detail, including using live imaging, the functional consequence of mispositioning or (partial) absence of PSC cells has not been addressed, but would much increase the relevance of their findings. A few additional issues need to be addressed as well in this otherwise well-done study.
Major points:
(1) The only readout in their experiments is the relative correctness of PSC positioning. Importantly, what is the functional consequence if PSC is not properly positioned? This would be particularly important with robo-sli manipulations, where the PSC is present but some cells are misplaced. What is the consequence? Are the LGs affected, like the specification of their cell types, structure, and function? To address this for at least the robo-slit requirement in the PSC, it may be important to manipulate them directly in the PSC with a split Gal4 system, using Antp and Odd promoters.
(2) The densely, parallel aligned fibers in the part of Figure 1J seemed to be visceral mesoderm, but further up (dorsally) that may be epidermis. It is possible that the PSC migrate together with the epidermis? This should be addressed.
(3) Although the authors described the standards of assessing PSC positioning as "normal" or "abnormal", it is rather subtle at times and variable in the mutant or KD/OE examples. The criteria should be more clearly delineated and analyzed double-blind, also since this is the only readout. Further examples of abnormal positioning in supplementary figures would also help.
(4) The Discussion is very lengthy and should shortened.
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Reviewer #3 (Public Review):
Summary:
This work is a detailed and thorough analysis of the morphogenesis of the posterior signaling center (PSC), a hematopoietic niche in the Drosophila larva. Live imaging is performed from the stage of PSC determination until the appearance of a compact lymph gland and PSC in the stage 16 embryo. This analysis is combined with genetic studies that clarify the involvement of adjacent tissue, including the visceral mesoderm, alary muscle, and cardioblasts/dorsal vessels. Lastly, the Slit/Robo signaling system is clearly implicated in the normal formation of the PSC.
Strengths:
The data are clearly presented, well documented, and fully support the conclusions drawn from the different experiments. The manuscript differs in character from the mainstay of "big data" papers (for example, no sets of single-cell RNAseq data of, for instance, PSC cells with more or less Slit input, are offered), but what it lacks in this regard, it makes up in carefully planned and executed visualizations and genetic manipulations.
Weaknesses:
A few suggestions concerning improvement of the way the story is told and contextualized.
(1) The minute cluster of PSC progenitors (5 or so cells per side) is embedded (as known before and shown nicely in this study) in other "migrating" cell pools, like the cardioblasts, pericardial cells, lymph gland progenitors, alary muscle progenitors. These all appear to move more or less synchronously. What should also be mentioned is another tissue, the dorsal epidermis, which also "moves" (better: stretches?) towards the dorsal midline during dorsal closure. Would it be reasonable to speculate (based on previously published data) that without the force of dorsal closure, operating in the epidermis, at least the lateral>medial component of the "migration" of the PSC (and neighboring tissues) would be missing? If dorsal closure is blocked, do essential components of PSC and lymph gland morphogenesis (except for the coming-together of the left and right halves) still occur? Are there any published data on this?
(2) Along similar lines: the process of PSC formation is characterized as "migration". To be fair: the authors bring up the possibility that some of the phenotypes they observe could be "passive"/secondary: "Thus, it became important to test whether all PSC phenotypes might be 'passive', explained by PSC attachment to a malforming dorsal vessel. Alternatively, the PSC defects could reflect a requirement for Robo activation directly in PSC cells." And the issue is resolved satisfactorily. But more generally, "cell migration" implies active displacement (by cytoskeletal forces) of cells relative to a substrate or to their neighbors (like for example migration of hemocytes). This to me doesn't seem really clearly to happen here for the dorsal mesodermal structures. Couldn't one rather characterize the assembly of PSC, lymph gland, pericardial cells, and dorsal vessel in terms of differential adhesion, on top of a more general adhesion of cells to each other and the epidermis, and then dorsal closure as a driving force for cell displacement? The authors should bring in the published literature to provide a background that does (or does not) justify the term "migration".
(3) That brings up the mechanistic centerpiece of this story, the Slit/Robo system. First: I suggest adding more detailed data from the study by Morin-Poulard et al 2016, in the Introduction, since these authors had already implicated Slit-Robo in PSC function and offered a concrete molecular mechanism: "vascular cells produce Slit that activates Robo receptors in the PSC. Robo activation controls proliferation and clustering of PSC cells by regulating Myc, and small GTPase and DE-cadherin activity, respectively". As stated in the Discussion: the mechanism of Slit/Robo action on the PSC in the embryo is likely different, since DE-cadherin is not expressed in the embryonic PSC; however, it maybe not be THAT different: it could also act on adhesion between PSC cells themselves and their neighbors. What are other adhesion proteins that appear in the late lateral mesodermal structures? Could DN-cadherin or Fasciclins be involved?
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Reviewer #1 (Public Review):
The authors describe a massively parallel reporter assays (MPRA) screen focused on identifying polymorphisms in 5' and 3' UTRs that affect translation efficiency and thus might have a functional impact on cells. The topic is of timely interest, and indeed, several related efforts have recently been published and preprinted (e.g., https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37516102/ and https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10635273/). This study has several major issues with the results and their presentation.
Major comments:
(1) The main issue is that it appears that the screen has largely failed, yet the reasons for that are unclear, which makes it difficult to interpret. The authors start with a library that includes approximately 6,000 variants, which makes it a medium-sized MPRA. But then, only 483 pairs of WT/mutated UTRs yield high-confidence information, which is already a small number for any downstream statistical analysis, particularly since most don't actually affect translation in the reporter screen setting (which is not unexpected). It is unclear why >90% of the library did not give high-confidence information. The profiles presented as base-case examples in Figure 2B don't look very informative or convincing. All the subsequent analysis is done on a very small set of UTRs that have an effect, and it is unclear to this reviewer how these can yield statistically significant and/or biologically relevant associations.
(2) From the variants that had an effect, the authors go on to carry out some protein-level validations and see some changes, but it is not clear if those changes are in the same direction as observed in the screen.
(3) The authors follow up on specific motifs and specific RBPs predicted to bind them, but it is unclear how many of the hits in the screen actually have these motifs, or how significant motifs can arise from such a small sample size.
(4) It is particularly puzzling how the authors can build a machine learning predictor with >3,000 features when the dataset they use for training the model has just a few dozens of translation-shifting variants.
(5) The lack of meaningful validation experiments altering the SNPs in the endogenous loci by genome editing limits the impact of the results.
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Summary:
In their paper "Massively Parallel Polyribosome Profiling Reveals Translation Defects of Human Disease‐Relevant UTR Mutations" the authors use massively parallel polysome profiling to determine the effects of 5' and 3' UTR SNPs (from dbSNP/ClinVar) on translational output. They show that some UTR SNPs cause a change in the polysome profile with respect to the wild-type and that pathogenic SNPs are enriched in the polysome-shifting group. They validate that some changes in polysome profiles are predictive of differences in translational output using transiently expressed luciferase reporters. Additionally, they identify sequence motifs enriched in the polysome-shifting group. They show that 2 enriched 5' UTR motifs increase the translation of a luciferase reporter in a protein-dependent manner, highlighting the use of their method to identify translational control elements.
Strengths:
This is a useful method and approach, as UTR variants have been more difficult to study than coding variants. Additionally, their evidence that pathogenic mutations are more likely to cause changes in polysome association is well supported.
Weaknesses:
The authors acknowledge that they "did not intend to immediately translate the altered polysome profile into an increase or decrease in translation efficiency, as the direction of the shift was not readily evident. Additionally, sedimentation in the sucrose gradient may have been partially affected by heavy particles other than ribosomes." However, shifted polysome distribution is used as a category for many downstream analyses. Without further clarity or subdivision, it is very difficult to interpret the results (for example in Figure 5A, is it surprising that the polysome shifting mutants decrease structure? Are the polysome "shifts" towards the untranslated or heavy fractions?)
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Summary:
Even though this is not the first report that the mutation in the DNAH12 gene causes asthenoteratozoospermia, the current study explores the sperm phenotype in-depth. The authors show experimentally that the said mutation disrupts the proper axonemal arrangement and recruitment of DNALI1 and DNAH1 - proteins of inner dynein arms. Based on these results, the authors propose a functional model of DNAH12 in proper axonemal development. Lastly, the authors demonstrate that the male infertility caused by the studies mutation can be rescued by ICSI treatment at least in the mouse. This study furthers our understanding of male infertility caused by a mutation of axonemal protein DNAH12, and how this type of infertility can be overcome using assisted reproductive therapy.
Strengths:<br /> This is an in-depth functional study, employing multiple, complementary methodologies to support the proposed working model.
Weaknesses:
The study strength could be increased by including more controls such as peptide blocking of the inhouse raised mouse and rat DNAH12 antibodies, and mass spectrometry of control IP with beads/IgG only to exclude non-specific binding. Objective quantifications of immunofluorescence images and WB seem to be missing. At least three technical replicates of western blotting of sperm and testis extracts could have been performed to demonstrate that the decrease of the signal intensity between WT and mutant was not caused by a methodological artifact.
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Reviewer #2 (Public Review):
Summary:
The authors first conducted whole exome sequencing for infertile male patients and families where they co-segregated the biallelic mutations in the Dynein Axonemal Heavy Chain 12 (DNAH12) gene.<br /> Sperm from patients with biallelic DNAH12 mutations exhibited a wide range of morphological abnormalities in both tails and heads, reminiscing a prevalent cause of male infertility, asthenoteratozoospermia. To deepen the mechanistic understanding of DNAH12 in axonemal assembly, the authors generated two distinct DNAH12 knockout mouse lines via CRISPR/Cas9, both of which showed more severe phenotypes than observed in patients. Ultrastructural observations and biochemical studies revealed the requirement of DNAH12 in recruiting other axonemal proteins and that the lack of DNAH12 leads to the aberrant stretching in the manchette structure as early as stage XI-XII. At last, the authors proposed intracytoplasmic sperm injection as a potential measure to rescue patients with DNAH12 mutations, where the knockout sperm culminated in the blastocyst formation with a comparable ratio to that in WT.
Strengths:
The authors convincingly showed the importance of DNAH12 in assembling cilia and flagella in both human and mouse sperm. This study is not a mere enumeration of the phenotypes, but a strong substantiation of DNAH12's essentiality in spermiogenesis, especially in axonemal assembly.
The analyses conducted include basic sperm characterizations (concentration, motility), detailed morphological observations in both testes and sperm (electron microscopy, immunostaining, histology), and biochemical studies (co-immunoprecipitation, mass-spec, computational prediction). Molecular characterizations employing knockout animals and recombinant proteins beautifully proved the interactions with other axonemal proteins.
Many proteins participate in properly organizing flagella, but the exact understanding of the coordination is still far from conclusive. The present study gives the starting point to untangle the direct relationships and order of manifestation of those players underpinning spermatogenesis. Furthermore, comparing flagella and trachea provides a unique perspective that attracts evolutional perspectives.
Weaknesses:
Seemingly minor, but the discrepancies found in patients and genetically modified animals were not fully explained. For example, both knockout mice vastly reduced the count of sperm in the epididymis and the motility, while phenotypes in patients were rather milder. Addressing the differences in the roles that the orthologs play in spermatogenesis would deepen the comprehensive understanding of axonemal assembly.
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Summary:
In this manuscript, the authors reveal a new role for SDG7 in the regulation of H3K36me2 and me3. SDG7 appear to be functionally redundant to SDG8 as the double mutant presents lower levels of H3K36me and stronger phenotypes than either single mutant, however, their mechanisms of action might differ as the proteins displayed different localization on their target genes, with SDG7 localizing preferentially to TSS and TES while SDG8 covers the gene body. SDG7 binds preferentially to PREs, which recruit PRC2 for H3K27me3 deposition. The authors therefore present an interesting model where SDG7 evicts PRC2 from silenced genes, leading to a loss of H3K27me3. This would allow the transcriptional activation of the genes and the deposition of H3K36me3.
Strengths:
Overall, the manuscript is well-written and organized, although some paragraphs need clarifications. The figures are clear and well designed and the proposed model is compelling. While the manuscript is already interesting as it is, I think addressing the following questions would elevate it even more and refine the proposed model:
Weaknesses/potential aspects to address:
(1) It is still unclear whether SDG7 directly catalyzes H3K36me or if it promotes its deposition simply by eviction of PRC2. The AlphaFold and structure analyses show a significant similarity between the catalytic domains which would support the first possibility, but some more experiments would be required to prove this more definitively.
(2) Does SDG7 directly recognize the PRE (as suggested by the model in Figure 5F) or is it recruited by some transcription factors? Is SDG7 known to interact with any of the PRC2 recruiters?
(3) Line154/Figure 2A: The metagene plot for H3K36me3 shows a lower level on the gene body but a higher peak in sdg7sdg8 double mutants compared to the Wild-type, which is a bit surprising, especially considering that the immunostaining in reference 19 showed a near complete loss of H3K36me3 signal in the same double mutant. Can this higher peak be an artifact from the normalization strategy, or due to the existence of different subpopulations of genes?
Indeed, on the genome tracks presented by the authors, the hypomethylated genes show a loss of signal on the entire gene body, and not a higher peak near the TSS. It might be interesting to generate metagene plots for H3K36me3 hypo and hyper-methylated genes, to see if the higher peak at the TSS is solely due to the hyper-methylated genes.
(4) Figure 2C: More than 40% of differentially methylated genes are actually hypermethylated, but the authors do not discuss this at all. What are those genes, are they targeted by SDG7 or 8? Could they be responsible for the higher peak at the TSS observed in the double mutant? (see previous comment).
(5) Figure 2C and D: The method section states that the ChIP-seq was performed on 5-day-old seedlings, while the legend of this figure mentions root and shoot samples but this does not appear in the figure itself. There is also mention of shoot and root samples in Supplementary Tables 1 and 2. The authors should clarify which tissue was used for the data presented in Figure 2 and correct the legends or the methods accordingly.
(6) Line 270/Fig 4K and L: The text mentions looking at the 838 genes "downregulated in clf sdg7 sdg8 relative to sdg7 sdg8" and in the overlap, the authors identified FLC. However, in Figure 5D, FLC is upregulated in clf sdg7-sdg8 compared to sdg7-sdg8, not downregulated as mentioned in line 270. The Venn diagram in Figure 4L mentions "sdg vs clf sdg up", which would fit the pattern seen in Figure 5D, but the number of genes (838) matches the number of downregulated genes in the sdg7sdg8 vs clf s dg7sdg8 volcano plot.
I would actually expect the phenotype rescue to be caused by genes that are up in Wt vs clf, down in Wt vs sdg7-sdg8, and back up in sdg7-sdg8 vs clf-sdg7-sdg8, not "up/down/down" as mentioned in the text: genes would be downregulated in sdg7-sdg8 because of a loss of H3K36me and therefore hypermethylation of H3K27, but in the absence of CLF, this hypermethylation is reversed and the genes are upregulated in the triple mutant compared to the sdg7-sdg8 mutant. This is also what the authors see and describe in their cluster analysis in Figure 4M and line 280, mentioning an upregulation in clf-sdg7-sdg8 vs sdg7-sdg8. Could the authors please clarify these discrepancies between the different subplots and within the text itself? Was there maybe some error plotting the volcano plot and/or Venn diagram?
In general, as this part is quite complicated, maybe it would benefit from a clearer explanation from the authors as to why they look at those particular overlaps, so that the reader can more easily follow their train of thought.
(7) Figure 4N/Line 286: How were these 828 genes identified? Is it stemming from a clf-sdg7-sdg8 vs sdg7-sdg8 comparison? The legend says "genes shown by white color in Fig. 4M", do the authors mean the two clusters previously described?
(8) Line 300: "suggesting that SDG8 primarily mediates target gene expression in conjunction with PAF1C". This statement is based on overlapping genes that are downregulated in sdg7-sdg8 double mutant and paf1c mutants but concludes only on the role of SDG8. I feel that to state that SDG8 regulates expression in conjunction with PAF1C, the authors should rather examine the genes downregulated in the sdg8 mutant, especially considering the reduced overlap between genes downregulated in sdg8 and sdg7-sdg8 (according to Figure 2C, only 30% of the genes downregulated in sdg8 are also downregulated in the double mutant), or this statement should be corrected to also include SDG7.
Maybe it would be easier to read the figure if the authors created a master list of genes downregulated in at least one of the paf1c mutants they examined (as they anyway do not examine in detail the contribution of each individual paf1c mutant), and overlap it with the genes downregulated in sdg7, sdg8 or sdg7-sdg8.
(9) Line 326: "We also discovered that SDG7 and SDG8 overcome PRC2-mediated silencing, leading to a switch from H3K27 methylation to H3K36 methylation during growth and development." While part of this statement is supported by the ChIP data presented in Figure 4E, I think a ChIP for H3K36me2 and/or me3 is necessary to prove the existence of a K27me to K36me switch.
(10) Line 347: The authors state that SDG8 is located at the TSS and 3' end of genes, but on line 187 they state that it occupies the gene body (which is supported by the plot in Figure 3A).
(11) Line 351: The authors suggest a role of RNApolII in the deposition of K36me, but their data are not sufficient to support this hypothesis. The transcriptome data show that both SDGs and PAF1C regulate a similar set of genes, but they do not show data demonstrating that RNApolII is necessary for the deposition of K36me. It might be interesting to examine H3K36me levels in a paf1c mutant to further consolidate their hypothesis.
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Reviewer #2 (Public Review):
Summary:
In this manuscript, the authors combined imaging approaches with molecular and genetic experiments to
(i) for the first time establish a chromatin regulatory role for SDG7;<br /> (ii) examine its role in H3K36 methylation, along with its homolog SDG8;<br /> (iii) examine its potential role in mediating antagonism to PRC2, thereby mediating transcriptional activation.
Strengths:
The manuscript explores interesting and relevant mechanistic hypotheses about chromatin-mediated gene regulation by combining a range of experimental tools and a genome-wide perspective. The writing is very clear. The study makes good connections to existing data and generates datasets that complement existing datasets, providing a valuable resource to the community.
Weaknesses:
Some of the claims appear to need further supporting evidence to establish their robustness.
Review of the main conclusions and supporting evidence:
(1) SDG7 contributes to H3K36 methylation at several loci along with SDG8:<br /> This conclusion is supported by the genome-wide differences (measured by ChIP-seq) in H3K36me3 and me2 levels observed between WT, the sdg7 and sdg8 single mutants, and the double mutant. The reduction in H3K36 methylation levels observed at a large number of genes in the sdg7 mutant, and the further reduction in H3K36 methylation levels in the double mutant compared to sdg8 (observed at multiple genes) indicates that SDG7 promotes this transcription-associated modification. The significantly larger number of H3K36 hypomethylated genes in the double mutant (3380) compared to either of the single mutants (523 and 605) indicates lower overall H3K36me3 levels in the double mutant.<br /> While direct evidence of SDG7 methyltransferase activity on H3K36 is lacking, the study reports structural comparisons using AlphaFold predictions that suggest the possibility of such a role.
(2) SDG7 influences gene expression together with SDG8:<br /> This conclusion is supported by a range of phenotypic differences observed between sdg8 and the double mutant sdg7 sdg8. The reported genome-wide differential gene expression between the WT and the double mutant as well as expression differences in specific genes detected by imaging are also consistent with SDG7 and SDG8 together influencing gene expression. However, a role specifically for SDG7 could be further supported by a direct differential expression analysis between the single mutant sdg8 and the double mutant sdg7 sdg8. A role for SDG7 in gene expression is also consistent with its observed effect on H3K36 methylation, which is generally associated with productive transcription.
(3) SDG8 is exclusively nuclear, but SDG7 localises to the cytosol and the nucleus in meristematic cells:<br /> This conclusion is supported by imaging of fluorescent-tagged SDG8 and SDG7 in the root tip, which shows nuclear localisation of SDG8-GFP, consistent with previous reports, and a combination of nuclear and cytosolic localisation for SDG7-VENUS. However, the study presents only one replicate - more replicates are needed to establish the robustness of this conclusion.
(4) Distinct binding patterns of SDG7 and SDG8 on chromatin:<br /> This conclusion is supported by the analysis of genome-wide binding patterns of these proteins measured by ChIP-seq (using fluorescent tagged versions). This data indicates that while SDG7 tends to localise to TSS and TES regions of genes, SDG8 tends to be more uniformly spread across gene loci. These patterns suggest that SDG7 and SDG8 may influence H3K36 methylation through distinct mechanisms, but do not indicate what these mechanisms may be.
(5) SDG7/SDG8 antagonism with PRC2:<br /> a. SDG7 overlaps with PRC2 and its recruiters on chromatin and can bind to PREs<br /> This conclusion is supported by statistically significant overlaps genome-wide between cis-elements at SDG7 binding peaks and those previously reported to be Polycomb associated. This is further supported by the observation of SDG7 binding peaks close to PRC2 subunit binding peaks at known PRC2 targets.<br /> b. SDG7/SDG8 antagonism with PRC2<br /> This conclusion is supported by the observation that the sdg7 sdg8 double mutant phenotypes are partially rescued by disrupting CLF, one of the PRC2 methyltransferases. However, this does not necessarily suggest a direct antagonism with PRC2, but could be part of a more general antagonism between productive transcription (in which H3K36 methylation plays an active role), and PRC2-mediated silencing.<br /> c. SDG7 can evict PRC2 from PREs to overcome H3K27me3-mediated silencing<br /> This conclusion - that SDG7 directly antagonises PRC2 interaction with cis-elements that mediate its targeting - is partly supported by the observation that inducing overexpression of SDG7 (through dexamethasone induction) can cause changes in CLF occupancy and H3K27me3 levels at certain designated PREs. To establish the robustness of these conclusions, it will be necessary to examine designated regions to be used as a negative control and include a non-transgenic control for the SDG-7-HA ChIP. A suitable negative control may be a non-PRE region known to have a CLF peak and high H3K27me3 levels, where the levels would not be expected to change in this experiment.<br /> It remains to be established whether this apparent antagonism of PRC2 by SDG7 is only part of a more general antagonism of PRC2 by productive transcriptional activity, or whether SDG7 can evict PRC2 from PREs independent of transcripts and therefore is a precursor to switching to an active transcriptional state.<br /> Another aspect that would be interesting to examine in the light of recent findings is the single-cell-level behaviour at these genes targeted by SDG7-to examine whether SDG7 induction is causing individual copies of these genes to stochastically switch to an active transcriptional state so that the observed changes in H3K27me3 result from a fraction of copies completely losing silencing rather than all copies losing some H3K27me3.
(6) H3K36me3 levels are co-regulated by SDG8 and Paf1c, SDG8 associates with Pol II to deliver transcription-coupled H3K36 methylation<br /> This conclusion is supported by analysis of a subset of loci previously reported to be regulated by Paf1c, which also exhibit changes in the sdg7 sdg8 double mutant as well as a clf mutant. This analysis is based on a qualitative examination of ChIP-seq signal at a small number of loci, and therefore provides indirect support for this conclusion. It is, therefore, difficult to draw mechanistic insights from this analysis that go beyond correlation.
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Reviewer #1 (Public Review):
In this manuscript, Ferhat and colleagues describe their study aimed at developing a blood-brain barrier (BBB) penetrant agent that could induce hypothermia and provide neuroprotection from the sequelae of status epilepticus (SE) in mice. Hypothermia is used clinically in an attempt to reduce neurological sequelae of injury and disease. Hypothermia can be effective, but physical means used to reduce core body temperature are associated with untoward effects. Pharmacological means to induce hypothermia could be as effective with fewer untoward complications. Intracerebroventricularly applied neurotensin can cause hypothermia; however, neurotensin applied peripherally is degraded and does not cross the BBB. Here the authors develop and characterize a neurotensin conjugate that can reach the brain, induce hypothermia, and reduce seizures, cognitive changes, and inflammatory changes associated with status epilepticus.
Strengths:
(1) In general, the study is well-reasoned, well-designed, and seemingly well-executed.
(2) Strong dose-response assessment of multiple neurotensin conjugates in mice.
(3) Solid assessment of binding affinity, in vitro stability in blood, and brain uptake of the conjugate.
(4) Appropriate inclusion of controls for SE and for drug injections. However, perhaps a vehicle control could have been employed.
(5) Multifaceted assessment of neurodegeneration, inflammation, and mossy fiber sprouting in the different groups.
(6) Inclusion of behavioral assessments.
(7) Evaluates NSTR1 receptor distribution in multiple ways; however, does not evaluate changes in receptor distribution or ping wo/w SE and/or various drugs.
(8) Demonstrates that this conjugate can induce hypothermia and have positive effects on the sequelae of SE. Could have a great impact on the application of pharmacologically-induced hypothermia as a neuroprotective measure in patients.
Weaknesses:
(1) The authors make the claim, repeatedly, that the hypothermia caused by the neurotensin conjugate is responsible for the effects they see; however, what they really show is that the conjugate causes hypothermia AND has favorable effects on the sequelae of SE. They need to discuss that they did not administer the conjugate without allowing the pharmacological hypothermia (e.g., by warming the animal, etc.).
(2) In the status epilepticus studies, it is unclear how or whether they monitored animals for the development of spontaneous seizures. Can the authors please describe this?
(3) They do not evaluate changes in receptor distribution or ping wo/w SE and/or various drugs.
(4) It is not clear why several different mouse strains were employed.
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Reviewer #2 (Public Review):
Summary:
The authors generated analogs consisting of modified neurotensin (NT) peptides capable of binding to low-density lipoprotein (LDL) and NT receptors. Their lead analog was further evaluated for additional validation as a novel therapeutic. The putative mechanism of action for NT in its antiseizure activity is hypothermia, and as therapeutic hypothermia has been demonstrated in epilepsy, NT analogs may confer antiseizure activity and avoid the negative effects of induced hypothermia.
Strengths:
The authors demonstrate an innovative approach, i.e. using LDLR as a means of transport into the brain, that may extend to other compounds. They systematically validate their approach and its potential through binding, brain penetration, in vivo antiseizure efficacy, and neuroprotection studies.
Weaknesses:
Tolerability studies are warranted, given the mechanism of action and the potential narrow therapeutic index. In vivo studies were used to assess the efficacy of the peptide conjugate analogs in the mouse KA model. However, it would be beneficial to have shown tolerability in naïve animals to better understand the therapeutic potential of this approach.
Mice may be particularly sensitive to hypothermia. It would be beneficial to show similar effects in a rat model.
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Reviewer #1 (Public Review):
Carignano et al propose an extension of the self-returning random walk (SRRW) model for chromatin to include excluded volume aspects and use it to investigate generic local and global properties of the chromosome 3D organization inside eukaryotic nuclei. In particular, they focus on chromatin volumic density, contact probability and domain size and suggest that their framework can recapitulate several experimental observations and predict the effect of some perturbations.
Strengths:<br /> • The developed methodology is convincing and may offer an alternative - less computationally demanding - framework to investigate the single-cell and population structural properties of 3D genome organization at multiple scales.<br /> • Compared to the previous SRRW model, it allows for investigation of the role of excluded volume locally.<br /> • They perform some experiments to compare with model predictions and show consistency between the two.
Weaknesses:<br /> • The model currently cannot fully account for specific mechanisms that may shape the heterogeneous, complex organization of chromosomes (TAD at specific positions, A/B compartmentalization, promoter-enhancer loops, etc.).<br /> • By construction of their framework, excluded volume only impacts locally the polymer organization and larger-scale properties for which excluded volume could be a main actor (formation of chromosome territories [Rosa & Everaers, PLoS CB 2009], bottle-brush effects due to loop extrusion [Polovnikov et al, PRX 2023], etc.) cannot be captured.<br /> • Comparisons with experiments are solid but are not clearly quantified.
Impact:<br /> Building on the presented framework in the future to incorporate TAD and compartments may offer an interesting model to study the single-cell heterogeneity of chromatin organization. But currently, in this reviewer's opinion, standard polymer modeling frameworks may offer more possibilities.
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Summary:
In this work, the authors present a novel, multi-layer computational model of motor control to produce realistic walking behaviour of a Drosophila model in the presence of external perturbations and under sensory and motor delays. The novelty of their model of motor control is that it is modular, with divisions inspired by the fly nervous system, with one component based on deep learning while the rest are based on control theory. They show that their model can produce realistic walking trajectories. Given the mostly reasonable assumptions of their model, they convincingly show that the sensory and motor delays present in the fly nervous system are the maximum allowable for robustness to unexpected perturbations.
Their fly model outputs torque at each joint in the leg, and their dynamics model translates these into movements, resulting in time-series trajectories of joint angles. Inspired by the anatomy of the fly nervous system, their fly model is a modular architecture that separates motor control at three levels of abstraction:<br /> (1) oscillator-based model of coupling of phase angles between legs,<br /> (2) generation of future joint-angle trajectories based on the current state and inputs for each leg (the trajectory generator), and<br /> (3) closed-loop control of the joint-angles using torques applied at every joint in the model (control and dynamics).
These three levels of abstraction ensure coordination between the legs, future predictions of desired joint angles, and corrections to deviations from desired joint-angle trajectories. The parameters of the model are tuned in the absence of external perturbations using experimental data of joint angles of a tethered fly. A notable disconnect from reality is that the dynamics model used does not model the movement of the body and ground contacts as is the case in natural walking, nor the movement of a ball for a tethered fly, but instead something like legs moving in the air for a tethered fly.
In order to validate the realism of the generated simulated walking trajectories, the authors compare various attributes of simulated to real tethered fly trajectories and show qualitative and quantitative similarities, including using a novel metric coined as Kinematic Similarity (KS). The KS score of a trajectory is a measure of the likelihood that the trajectory belongs to the distribution of real trajectories estimated from the experimental data. While such a metric is a useful tool to validate the quality of simulated data, there is some room for improvement in the actual computation of this score. For instance, the KS score is computed for any given time-window of walking simulation using a fraction of information from the joint-angle trajectories. It is unclear if the remaining information in joint-angle trajectories that are not used in the computation of the KS score can be ignored in the context of validating the realism of simulated walking trajectories.
The authors validate simulated walking trajectories generated by the trained model under a range of sensorimotor delays and external perturbations. The trained model is shown to generate realistic joint-angle trajectories in the presence of external perturbations as long as the sensorimotor delays are constrained within a certain range. This range of sensorimotor delays is shown to be comparable to experimental measurements of sensorimotor delays, leading to the conclusion that the fly nervous system is just fast enough to be robust to perturbations.
Strengths:
This work presents a novel framework to simulate Drosophila walking in the presence of external perturbations and sensorimotor delay. Although the model makes some simplifying assumptions, it has sufficient complexity to generate new, testable hypotheses regarding motor control in Drosophila. The authors provide evidence for realistic simulated walking trajectories by comparing simulated trajectories generated by their trained model with experimental data using a novel metric proposed by the authors. The model proposes a crucial role in future predictions to ensure robust walking trajectories against external perturbations and motor delay. Realistic simulations under a range of prediction intervals, perturbations, and motor delays generating realistic walking trajectories support this claim. The modular architecture of the framework provides opportunities to make testable predictions regarding motor control in Drosophila. The work can be of interest to the Drosophila community interested in digitally simulating realistic models of Drosophila locomotion behaviors, as well as to experimentalists in generating testable hypotheses for novel discoveries regarding neural control of locomotion in Drosophila. Moreover, the work can be of broad interest to neuroethologists, serving as a benchmark in modelling animal locomotion in general.
Weaknesses:
As the authors acknowledge in their work, the control and dynamics model makes some simplifying assumptions about Drosophila physics/physiology in the context of walking. For instance, the model does not incorporate ground contact forces and inertial effects of the fly's body. It is not clear how these simplifying assumptions would affect some of the quantitative results derived by the authors. The range of tolerable values of sensorimotor delays that generate realistic walking trajectories is shown to be comparable with sensorimotor delays inferred from physiological measurements. It is unclear if this comparison is meaningful in the context of the model's simplifying assumptions. The authors propose a novel metric coined as Kinematic Similarity (KS) to distinguish realistic walking trajectories from unrealistic walking trajectories. Defining such an objective metric to evaluate the model's predictions is a useful exercise, and could potentially be applied to benchmark other computational animal models that are proposed in the future. However, the KS score proposed in this work is calculated using only the first two PCA modes that cumulatively account for less than 50% of the variance in the joint angles. It is not obvious that the information in the remaining PCA modes may not change the log-likelihood that occurs in the real walking data.
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Reviewer #2 (Public Review):
Summary:
In this study, Karashchuk et al. develop a hierarchical control system to control the legs of a dynamic model of the fly. They intend to demonstrate that temporal delays in sensorimotor processing can destabilize walking and that the fly's nervous system may be operating with as long of delays as could possibly be corrected for.
Strengths:
Overall, the approach the authors take is impressive. Their model is trained using a huge dataset of animal data, which is a strength. Their model was not trained to reproduce animal responses to perturbations, but it successfully rejects small perturbations and continues to operate stably. Their results are consistent with the literature, that sensorimotor delays destabilize movements.
Weaknesses:
The model is sophisticated and interesting, but the reviewer has great concerns regarding this manuscript's contributions, as laid out in the abstract:
(1) Much simpler models can be used to show that delays in sensorimotor systems destabilize behavior (e.g., Bingham, Choi, and Ting 2011; Ashtiani, Sarvestani, and Badri-Sproewitz 2021), so why create this extremely complex system to test this idea? The complexity of the system obscures the results and leaves the reviewer wondering if the instability is due to the many, many moving parts within the model. The reviewer understands (and appreciates) that the authors tested the impact of the delay in a controlled way, which supports their conclusion. However, the reviewer thinks the authors did not use the most parsimonious model possible, and as such, leave many possible sources for other causes of instability.
(2) In a related way, the reviewer is not sure that the elements the authors introduced reflect the structure or function of the fly's nervous system. For example, optimal control is an active field of research and is behind the success of many-legged robots, but the reviewer is not sure what evidence exists that suggests the fly ventral nerve cord functions as an optimal controller. If this were bolstered with additional references, the reviewer would be less concerned.
(3) "The model generates realistic simulated walking that matches real fly walking kinematics...". The reviewer appreciates the difficulty in conducting this type of work, but the reviewer cannot conclude that the kinematics "match real fly walking kinematics". The range of motion of several joints is 30% too small compared to the animal (Figure 2B) and the reviewer finds the video comparisons unpersuasive. The reviewer would understand if there were additional constraints, e.g., the authors had designed a robot that physically could not complete the prescribed motions. However the reviewer cannot think of a reason why this simulation could not replicate the animal kinematics with arbitrary precision, if that is the goal.
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Reviewer #1 (Public Review):
Summary:
This manuscript described a clinical trial to understand the different treatment durations of loperamide in preventing pyrotinib-induced diarrhea. The authors concluded that no significant differences were observed between 21-day and 42-day loperamide durations in preventing grade {greater than or equal to} grade 3 diarrhea. The authors suggested that considering the economic cost and patient compliance, 21-day loperamide prophylaxis might represent a more pragmatic and appropriate approach for clinical application.
Strengths:
It is essential to understand if loperamide for primary prevention of diarrhea helps or not for postoperative treatment with nab-paclitaxel and pyrotinib in HER2-positive patients. This clinical trial would answer this question eventually.
Weaknesses:
(1) There are no patients who have not received prophylactic treatment for diarrhea to serve as a control group. This limited the finding that if the loperamide for primary prevention of diarrhea benefits or not for postoperative treatment with nab-paclitaxel and pyrotinib in HER2-positive patients. This would not help much for the guidance of clinical use of the loperamide for primary prevention of diarrhea.
(2) The clinical trial needs double-blinding for evaluation of treatment. In this manuscript, the blinding was not employed.
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Reviewer #2 (Public Review):
Summary:
Pyrotinib, a pan-HER tyrosine kinase inhibitor, has shown significant survival benefits in patients with HER2-positive breast cancer. However, diarrhea is a frequent and important adverse event during pyrotinib treatment. Severe diarrhea may require interruption of pyrotinib treatment, thus affecting its anti-tumor effect and becoming a clinical safety issue. This study evaluated the incidence of diarrhea in patients with early-stage HER2-positive breast cancer treated with nab-paclitaxel and pyrotinib using 42- and 21-day loperamide primary prevention strategies. No significant differences were observed between the 21- and 42-day loperamide durations in the prevention of grade 3 and above diarrhea. Considering the economic cost and patient compliance, 21-day loperamide prophylaxis might represent a more pragmatic and appropriate approach for clinical application.
Strengths:
This study has a reasonable design, a clear hypothesis and methodology, and clear results, making the conclusion reliable. Most importantly, the findings have practical implications for the clinical management of pyrotinib-induced diarrhea.
Weaknesses:
Although the paper does have strengths in the practical implications for the clinical management of pyrotinib-induced diarrhea, there are still many data presentations that are not clear:
(1) The baseline characteristics mention that at the cut-off date on September 27, 2023, two patients withdrew from the 21-day group due to intolerable diarrhea and received other anti-tumor therapies for liposarcoma on the face. In the 42-day group, one patient was lost to follow-up and two withdrew from the study due to intolerable diarrhea and bone metastases. So, in the study, how many cases are in each group? The numbers of cases indicated in Figures 1 and 2 are inconsistent.
(2 ) Why does Figure 3a only compare 3 months of data, while Figure 3b compares 12 months of data?
(3) It is mentioned in lines 222-229 that a combination treatment of nab-paclitaxel plus pyrotinib is 1-3 months, whereas those of pyrotinib alone is 3-12 months. So, what is the exact duration of the combination treatment and pyrotinib alone treatment?
(4) This study found that no significant differences were observed between 21-day and 42-day loperamide durations in preventing grade 3 and above diarrhea. However, nab-paclitaxel can also cause diarrhea, and the conclusions would be more reliable if a control group that was not given loperamide were added. It is suggested that the authors add relevant data to further confirm the conclusion.
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Reviewer #1 (Public Review):
Summary:
Colomb et al have further explored the mechanisms of action of a family of three immunodulatory proteins produced by the murine gastrointestinal nematode parasite Heligmosomoides polygyrus bakeri. The family of HpARI proteins binds to the alarmin interleukin 33 and depending on family members, exhibits differential activities, either suppressive or enhancing. The present work extends previous studies by this group showing the binding of DNA by members of this family through a complement control protein (CCP1) domain. Moreover, they identify two members of the family that bind via this domain in a non-specific manner to the extracellular matrix molecule heparan sulphate through a basic charged patch in CCP1. The authors thus propose that binding to DNA or heparan sulphate extends the suppressive action of these two parasite molecules, whereas the third family member does not bind and consequently has a shorter half-life and may function via diffusion.
Strengths:
A strength of the work is the multifaceted approach to examining and testing their hypotheses, using a well-established and well-defined family of immunomodulatory molecules using multiple approaches including an in vivo setting.
Weaknesses:
There are a few weaknesses of the approach. Perhaps some discussion and speculation as to how these three family members might operate in concert during Heligmosomoides polygyrus bakeri infection would help place the biology of these molecules in context for the reader, e.g. when and where they are produced.
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Reviewer #2 (Public Review):
Summary:
Colomb et al. investigated here the heparin-binding activity of the HpARI family proteins from H. polygyrus. HpARIs bind to IL-33, a pleiotropic cytokine, and modulate its activities. HpARI1/2 has suppressive functions, while HpARI3 can enhance the interaction between IL-33 and its receptor. This study builds upon their previous observation that HpARI2 binds DNA via its CCP1 domain. Here, the authors tested the CCP1 domain of HpARIs in binding heparan sulfate, an important component of the extracellular matrix, and found that 1/2 bind heparan, but 3 cannot, which is related to their half-lives in vivo.
Strengths:
The authors use a comprehensive multidisciplinary approach to assess the binding and their effects in vivo, coupled with molecular modeling.
Weaknesses:
(1) Figure 1C should include Western.
(2) Figure 1E: Why does HpARI1 stop binding DNA at 50%?
(3) ITC binding experiment with HpARI1?Also, the ITC results from HpARI2 do not seem to saturate, thus it is difficult to really determine the affinity.
(4) It would be helpful to add docking results from HpARI1.
(5) Some conclusions are speculative and need to remain in the Discussion. e.g.:<br /> a) That HpARI3 may be able to diffuse farther<br /> b) That DNA/HS may trap HpARI1/2 at the infection site.
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Reviewer #3 (Public Review):
Summary:
Pyruvate kinase M2 (PKM2) is a rate limiting enzyme in glycolysis and its translocation to nucleus in astrocytes in various nervous system pathologies has been associated with a metabolic switch to glycolysis which is a sign of reactive astrogliosis. Authors investigated whether this occurs in experimental autoimmune encephalomyelitis (EAA), an animal model of multiple sclerosis (MS). They show that in EAA, PKM2 is ubiquitinated by TRIM21 and transferred to the nucleus in astrocytes. Inhibition of TRIM21-PKM2 axis efficiently blocks reactive gliosis and partially alleviates symptoms of EAA. Authors conclude that this axis can be a potential new therapeutic target in the treatment of MS.
Strengths:
The study is well-designed, controls are appropriate and a comprehensive battery of experiments has been successfully performed. Results of in vitro assays, single cell RNA sequencing, immunoprecipitation, RNA interference, molecular docking and in vivo modeling etc. complement and support each other.
Weaknesses:
Though EAA is a valid model of MS, a proposed new therapeutic strategy based on this study needs to have support from human studies.
The comments above are still valid for this revised version of the manuscript.
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Reviewer #1 (Public Review):
Summary:
Yang. Hu et al. investigated the molecular mechanism that cause astrocyte activation and its implications for multiple sclerosis. This study focuses on the enzyme PKM2, known for its role in glycolysis, and its nuclear translocation in reactive astrocytes in a mouse model of multiple sclerosis (EAE). Preventing the nuclear translocation of PKM2 reduces astrocyte activation, proliferation, glycolysis, and inflammatory cytokine secretion. Importantly, the study reveals that TRIM21 controls PKM2's nuclear translocation through ubiquitination, promoting its nuclear import and enhancing its activity. Single-cell RNA sequencing and immunofluorescence confirm TRIM21 upregulation in EAE astrocytes, and alteration of TRIM21 levels affect PKM2-dependent glycolysis and proliferation. Their findings suggest that targeting the TRIM21-PKM2 axis could be a therapeutic strategy for treating neurological diseases involving astrocyte activation.
Strength:
This work provides a comprehensive exploration of PKM2's nuclear role and its interaction with TRIM21 in EAE, offering new insights for therapeutic strategies targeting metabolic reprogramming in astrocyte activation. The strength of the study is the use of advanced techniques such as single cell RNA sequencing, in vitro and in vivo knockdown techniques to support the data. With the addition of new data and explanations in the manuscript, the authors have rendered their claimed ideas more supportive.
Weakness:
The revisions and implementation of suggestions have greatly improved the overall quality of the manuscript. I would like to thank the authors for carefully evaluating all the suggestions and for providing extra explanations and response figures. However, there are still some points that need to be corrected and clarified.
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Reviewer #2 (Public Review):
This study significantly advances our understanding of the metabolic reprogramming underlying astrocyte activation in neurological diseases such as multiple sclerosis. By employing an experimental autoimmune encephalomyelitis (EAE) mouse model, the authors discovered a notable nuclear translocation of PKM2, a key enzyme in glycolysis, within astrocytes. Preventing this nuclear import via DASA 58 substantially attenuated primary astrocyte activation, characterized by reduced proliferation, glycolysis, and inflammatory cytokine secretion.
Moreover, the authors uncovered a novel regulatory mechanism involving the ubiquitin ligase TRIM21, which mediates PKM2 nuclear import. TRIM21 interaction with PKM2 facilitated its nuclear translocation, enhancing its activity in phosphorylating STAT3, NFκB, and c-myc. Single-cell RNA sequencing and immunofluorescence staining further supported the upregulation of TRIM21 expression in astrocytes during EAE.
Manipulating this pathway, either through TRIM21 overexpression in primary astrocytes or knockdown of TRIM21 in vivo, had profound effects on disease severity, CNS inflammation, and demyelination in EAE mice. This comprehensive study provides invaluable insights into the pathological role of nuclear PKM2 and the ubiquitination-mediated regulatory mechanism driving astrocyte activation.
The author's use of diverse techniques, including single-cell RNA sequencing, immunofluorescence staining, and lentiviral vector knockdown, underscores the robustness of their findings and interpretations. Ultimately, targeting this PKM2-TRIM21 axis emerges as a promising therapeutic strategy for neurological diseases involving astrocyte dysfunction.
While the strengths of this piece of work are undeniable, some concerns could be addressed to refine its impact and clarity further.
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Reviewer #4 (Public Review):
The authors report the role of the Piruvate Kinase M2 (PKM2) enzyme nuclear translocation as fundamental in the activation of astrocytes in a model of autoimmune encephalitis (EAE). They show that astrocytes, activated through culturing in EAE splenocytes medium, increase their nuclear PKM2 with a consequent activation of NFkB and STAT3 pathways. Prevention of PKM2 nuclear translocation decreases astrocyte counteracts this activation. The authors found that the E3 ubiquitin ligase TRIM21 interacts with PKM2 and promotes its nuclear translocation. In vivo, either silencing of TRIM21 or inhibition of PKM2 nuclear translocation ameliorates the severity of the disease in the EAE model.
Strengths
This work contributes to the knowledge of the complex action of the PKM2 enzyme in the context of an autoimmune-neurological disease, highlighting its nuclear role and a novel partner, TRIM21, promoting its nuclear translocation. In vivo amelioration of the pathological signs through inhibition of either of the two, PKM2 and TRIM21, provides a novel rationale for therapeutic targeting.
Weaknesses
I believe that the major weakness is the fact that TRIM21 is known to have per se many roles in autoimmune and immune pathways and some of the effects observed might be due to a PKM2-independent action. Some of the experiments to link the two proteins, besides their interaction, are not completely clarifying the issue. On top of that, the in vivo experiments address the role of TRIM21 and the nuclear localisation of PKM2 independently, thus leaving the matter unsolved.
In general, the conclusions of the manuscript are supported by the reported results. The points to be addressed in future are the assessment of PKM2 as substrate of TRIM21 ubiquitin ligase activity and the proof of the epistatic relationship of TRIM21 and PKM2 in astrocyte activation. However, the data surely open novel directions to follow for the understanding of multiple sclerosis and related pathologies.
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Reviewer #2 (Public Review):
The paper by Willems aimed to uncover the neural implementations of threat omissions and showed that the VTA/SN activity was stronger following the omissions of more probable and intense shock stimulation, mimicking a reward PE signal.
My main concern remains regarding the interpretation of the task as a learning paradigm (extinction) or simply an expectation violation task (difference between instructed and experienced probability), though I appreciate some of the extra analyses in the responses to the reviewers. Looking at both the behavioral and neural data, a clear difference emerges among different US intensities and non-0% vs. 0% contrasts, however, the difference across probabilities was not clear in the figures, potentially partly due to the false instructions subjects received about the shock probabilities.
The lack of probability related PE demonstration, both in behavior and to a less extent in imaging data, does not fully support the PE axioms (0% and 100% are by themselves interesting categories since the instruction and experience matched well and therefore might need to be interpreted differently from other probabilities).
As the other reviewers pointed out, the application of instruction together with extinction paradigm complicates the interpretation of results. Also, the trial-by-trial analysis suggestion was responded by the probability x run interaction analysis, which still averaged over trials within each run to estimate a beta coefficient. So my evaluation remains that this is a valuable study to test PE axioms in the human reward and salience systems but authors need to be extremely careful with their wordings as to why this task is not a particularly learning paradigm (or the learning component did not affect their results, which was in conflict with the probability related SCR, pleasantness ratings as well as BOLD signals).
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Reviewer #1 (Public Review):
Summary:
Federer et al. tested AAVs designed to target GABAergic cells and parvalbumin-expressing cells in marmoset V1. Several new results were obtained. First, AAV-h56D targeted GABAergic cells with high specificity but in ways that varied across serotype and layer. Second, AAV-PHP.eB.S5E2 targeted parvalbumin-expressing neurons with similarly high specificity. Third, immunohistochemical GABA and PV signals were attenuated near viral injection sites.
A strength of this study is the analysis of marker gene expression at AAV injection sites. Some endogenous genes are difficult to detect following AAV injections, which is an important observation. A second contribution is the demonstration that AAV-S5E2 drives transgene expression selectively in parvalbumin-expressing neurons when vectors are delivered intraparenchymally (the study introducing AAV-S5E2 used intravenous injections).
A weakness of this study is that the data set is small. Which of the results would hold up had a larger number of injections been made into a larger number of marmosets remains unclear.
A major goal of this study was to quantify the specificity and coverage of AAV-h56D and AAV-S5E2 vectors in marmoset cortex. This goal was achieved. This report provides a valuable guide for other investigators using these tools. It also provides a rigorous survey of the laminar distributions of GABA+ and PV+ neurons in marmoset V1 which has value independent of the viral injections.
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Reviewer #3 (Public Review):<br /> Summary:
Federer et al. describe the laminar profiles of GABA+ and of PV+ neurons in marmoset V1. They also report on the selectivity and efficiency of expression of a PV-selective enhancer (S5E2) across laminae. Three further viruses were tested, with a view to characterizing the expression profiles of a GABA-selective enhancer (h56d), but these results are preliminary.
Strengths:
The derivation of cell-type specific enhancers is key for translating the types of circuit analyses that can be performed in mice - which rely on germline modifications for access to cell-type specific manipulation - in higher-order mammals. Federer et al. further validate the utility of S5E2 as a PV-selective enhancer in NHPs.
Additionally, the authors characterize the laminar distribution pattern of GABA+ and PV+ cells in V1. This survey may prove valuable to researchers seeking to understand and manipulate the microcircuitry mediating the excitation-inhibition balance in this region of the marmoset brain.
Weaknesses:
Enhancer/promoter specificity and efficiency cannot be directly compared, because they were packaged in different serotypes of AAV.
The three different serotypes of AAV expressing reporter under the h56D promoter were only tested once each, and all in the same animal. There are many variables that can contribute to the success (or failure) of a viral injection, so observations with an n=1 cannot be considered reliable.
Added after revision:
The revisions satisfy my concerns. In particular, the new language to qualify the strength of evidence relating to the interpretation of the data relating to the 3 different serotypes of virus used to test h56D is appropriate.
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Reviewer #1 (Public Review):
Summary:
The authors of this manuscript characterize new anion conducting that is more red-shifted in its spectrum than prior variants called MsACR1. An additional mutant variant of MsACR1 that is renamed raACR has a 20 nm red-shifted spectral response with faster kinetics. Due to the spectral shift of these variants, the authors proposed that it is possible to inhibit expression of MsACR1 and raACR with lights at 635 nm in vivo and in vitro. The authors were able to demonstrate inhibition in vitro and in vivo with 635 nm light. Overall the new variants with unique properties should be able to suppress neuronal activities with red-shifted light stimulation.
Strengths:
The authors were able to identify a new class of anion conducting channelrhodopsin and have variants that respond strongly to lights with wavelength >550 nm. The authors were able to demonstrate this variant, MsACR1, can alter behavior in vivo with 635 nm light.
The second major strength of the study is the development of a red-shifted mutant of MsACR1 that has faster kinetics and 20 nm red-shifted from a single mutation.
Weaknesses:
There are many claims not supported by the evidence provided in the submitted version of the manuscript and would require further experiments to support such claims.
(1) From the data shown, the red-shifted raACR work much less efficiently than MsACR1 even with 635 nm light illumination both in vivo (Figure 4D) and in vitro (Figure 3E) despite the 20 nm red-shift. This is inconsistent with the benefits and effects of red-shifting the spectrum in raACR. The authors claimed that this is due to the faster kinetics of raACR which is plausible from the data shown in Fig 3E but this could be experimentally shown if more examples of continuous illumination and pulsed illumination (such as the one shown in Fig 3D) can be shown in supplemental figures. If this is truly due to the off-kinetics, the spikes would appear after the termination of the pulses but there is little difference in the cases of continuous illumination or during illumination. The fact that 635nm is equally effective as raACR suggests that there is an overall stronger effect of MsACR1 that compensates for the red-shift of raACR.
(2) There are limited comparisons to existing variants of ACRs under the same conditions in the manuscript overall. There should be more parallel comparison with gtACR1, ZipACR and RubyACR in identical conditions in cultured cell line, cultured neurons and in vivo. In terms of overall performance, efficiency, expression in identical conditions. Without this information, it is unclear whether the effects at 635 nm is due to the expression level which can compensate for the spectral shift (which may be the case for MsACR1). The authors stated they are saving this data for another manuscript, this is important data for the current manuscript which should be presented in the existing manuscript.
(3) Despite being able to activate the channelrhodopsin with 635 nm light, the main utility of the variant would be transcranial stimulation which were not demonstrated here.
(4) For the in vivo characterization, there is no mention of animal number and results from Fig 4 and 5 appear to come from multiple samples from a single animal. This is not sufficient scientific evidence to support the claims. Fig 4 and 5 should have statistical analysis from multiple animals and not multiple measurements from single animals in each of the conditions.
(5) As reviewer 2 also pointed out, there is a lack of proper controls (in addition to the low number of animals). The authors point out the current absence of technicians in the laboratory, this should not be a reason to not attempt or do the experiments.
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Reviewer #2 (Public Review):
Summary:
The authors identified a new chloride-conducting Channelrhodopsin (MsACR1) that can be activated at low light intensities and within the red part of the visible spectrum. Additional engineering of MsACR1 yielded a variant (raACR1) with increased current amplitudes, accelerated kinetics, and a 20nm red-shifted peak excitation wavelength. Stimulation of MsACR1 and raACR1 expressing neurons with 635nm in mice's primary motor cortices inhibited the animals' locomotion.
Strengths:
The in vitro characterization of the newly identified ACRs is very detailed and confirms the biophysical properties as described by the authors. Notably, the ACRs are very light sensitive and allow for efficient in vitro inhibition of neurons in the nano Watt/mm^2 range. These new ACRs give neuroscientists and cell biologists a new tool to control chloride flux over biological membranes with high temporal and spatial precision. The red-shifted excitation peaks of these ACRs could allow for multiplexed application with blue-light excited optogenetic tools such as cation-conducting channelrhodopsins or green-fluorescent calcium indicators such as GCaMP.
Weaknesses:
(1) The in-vivo characterization of MsACR1 and raACR1 lacks critical control experiments and is, therefore, too preliminary. The experimental conditions differ fundamentally between in vitro and in vivo characterizations. For example, chloride gradients differ within neurons which can weaken inhibition or even cause excitation at synapses, as pointed out by the authors. Notably, the patch pipettes for the in vitro characterization in neurons contained low chloride concentrations that might not reflect possible conditions found in vivo preparations, i.e., increasing chloride gradients from dendrites to synapses.<br /> 2nd review: The authors have addressed this comment in their rebuttal.
(2) Interestingly, the authors used soma-targeted (st) MsACR1 and raACR1 for some of their in vitro characterization yielding more efficient inhibition and reduction of co-incidental "on-set" spiking. Still, the authors do not seem to have utilized st-variants in vivo.<br /> 2nd review: The authors offered an explanation in their rebuttal and aim to add these experiments later.
(3) Most importantly, critical in vivo control experiments, such as negative controls like GFP or positive controls like NpHR, are missing. These controls would exclude potential behavioral effects due to experimental artifacts. Moreover, in vivo electrophysiology could have confirmed whether targeted neurons were inhibited under optogenetic stimulations.<br /> Some of these concerns stem from the fact that the pulsed raACR stimulation at 635 nm at 10Hz (Fig. 3E) was far less efficient compared to MsACR1, yet the in vivo comparison yielded very similar results (Fig. 4D).<br /> Also, the cortex is highly heterogeneous and comprises excitatory and inhibitory neurons. Using the synapsin promoter, the viral expression paradigm could target both types and cause differential effects, which has not been investigated further, for example, by immunohistochemistry. An alternative expression system, for example, under VGLUT1 control, could have mitigated some of these concerns.<br /> 2nd review: The authors have not added control experiments in Fig 4 yet but plan to conduct them later. They added a new set of experiments in Fig.5 in which PV neurons were exclusively targeted. However, the authors show in vivo electrophysiology demonstrating the expected inhibition of firing neurons (presumably PV neurons expressing raACR) under 635 nm light and disinhibition (presumably excitatory neurons).
(4) Furthermore, the authors applied different light intensities, wavelengths, and stimulation frequencies during the in vitro characterization, causing varying spike inhibition efficiencies. The in vivo characterization is notably lacking this type of control. Thus, it is unclear why the 635nm, 2s at 20Hz every 5s stimulation protocol, which has no equivalent in the in vitro characterization, was chosen.<br /> 2nd review: The authors offered a satisfactory explanation.
In summary, the in vivo experiments did not confirm whether the observed inhibition of mouse locomotion occurred due to the inhibition of neurons or experimental artifacts.<br /> 2nd review: New experiments were added which demonstrate the expected inhibition of raACR expressing PV neurons in vivo.
In addition, the author's main claim of more efficient neuronal inhibition would require to threshold MsACR1 and raACR1 against alternative methods such as the red-shifted NpHR variant Jaws or other ACRs to give readers meaningful guidance when choosing an inhibitory tool.<br /> The light sensitivity of MsACR1 and raACR1 are impressive and well characterized in vitro. However, the authors only reported the overall light output at the fiber tip for the in vivo experiments: 0.5 mW. Without context, it is difficult to evaluate this value. Calculating the light power density at certain distances from the light fiber or thresholding against alternative tools such as NpHR, Jaws, or other ACRs would allow for a more meaningful evaluation.<br /> 2nd review: The authors added Supl Fig. 8 in which light power density and propagation of photons at 550 nm and 635nm through brain tissue was calculated when emitted from light fibers of varying diameter.
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Reviewer #1 (Public Review):
Summary:<br /> This study investigated spatial representations in deep feedforward neural network models (DDNs) that were often used in visual tasks. The authors create a three-dimensional virtual environment, and let a simulated agent randomly forage in a smaller two-dimensional square area. The agent "sees" images of the room within its field of view from different locations and heading directions. These images were processed by DDNs. Analyzing model neurons in DDNs, they found response properties similar to those of place cells, border cells and head direction cells in various layers of deep nets. A linear readout of network activity can recover key spatial variables. In addition, after removing neurons with strong place/border/head direction selectivity, one can still decode these spatial variables from the remaining neurons in the DNNs. Based on these results, the authors argue that that the notion of functional cell types in spatial cognition is misleading.
Strengths:<br /> This paper contains interesting and original ideas, and I enjoy reading it. Most previous studies (e.g., Banino, Nature, 2018; Cueva & Wei, ICLR, 2018; Whittington et al, Cell, 2020) using deep network models to investigate spatial cognition mainly relied on velocity/head rotation inputs, rather than vision (but see Franzius, Sprekeler, Wiskott, PLoS Computational Biology, 2007). Here, the authors find that, under certain settings, visual inputs alone may contain enough information about the agent's location, head direction and distance to the boundary, and such information can be extracted by DNNs. If confirmed, this is potentially an interesting and important observation.
Weaknesses:<br /> While the findings reported here are interesting, it is unclear whether they are the consequence of the specific model setting, and how well they would generalize. Furthermore, I feel the results are over-interpreted. There are major gaps between the results actually shown and the claim about the "superfluousness of cell types in spatial cognition". Evidence directly supporting the overall conclusion seems to be weak at the moment.
Major concerns:
(1) The authors reported that, in their model setting, most neurons throughout the different layers of CNNs show strong spatial selectivity. This is interesting and perhaps also surprising. It would be useful to test/assess this prediction directly based on existing experimental results. It is possible that the particular 2-d virtual environment used is special. The results will be strengthened if similar results hold for other testing environments.
In particular, examining the pictures shown in Fig. 1A, it seems that local walls of the 'box' contain strong oriented features that are distinct across different views. Perhaps the response of oriented visual filters can leverage these features to uniquely determine the spatial variable. This is concerning because this is a very specific setting that is unlikely to generalize.
(2) Previous experimental results suggest that various function cell types discovered in rodent navigation circuits persist in dark environments. If we take the modeling framework presented in this paper literally, the prediction would be that place cells/head direction cells should go away in darkness. This implies that key aspects of functional cell types in the spatial cognition are missing in the current modeling framework. This limitation needs to be addressed or explicitly discussed.
(3) Place cells/border cell/ head direction cells are mostly studied in the rodent's brain. For rodents, it is not clear whether standard DNNs would be good models of their visual systems. It is likely that rodent visual system would not be as powerful in processing visual inputs as the DNNs used in this study.
(4) The overall claim that those functional cell types defined in spatial cognition are superfluousness seems to be too strong based on the results reported here. The paper only studied a particular class of models, and arguably, the properties of these models have a major gap to those of real brains. Even though, in the DNN models simulated in this particular virtual environment, (i) most model neurons have strong spatial selectivity; (ii) removing model neurons with the strongest spatial selectivity still retain substantial spatial information, why this is relevant to the brain? The neural circuits may operate in a very different regime. Perhaps a more reasonable interpretation of the results would be: these results raise the possibility that those strongly selective neurons observed in the brain may not be essential for encoding certain features, as something like this is observed in certain models. It is difficult to draw definitive conclusions about the brain based on the results reported.
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Reviewer #2 (Public Review):
Summary:<br /> The authors aim at challenging the relevance of cell populations with characteristic selectivity for specific aspects of navigation (e.g. place cells, head direction and border cells) in the processing of spatial information. Their claim is that such cells naturally emerge in any system dealing with the estimation of position in an environment, without the need for a special involvement of these cells in the computations. In particular the work shows how when provided with spatial error signals, networks designed for invariant object recognition spontaneously organize the activity in their hidden layers into a mixture of spatially selective cells, some of them passing classification criteria for place, head direction or border cells. Crucially, these cells are not necessary for position decoding, nor are they the most informative when it comes to the performance of the network in reconstructing spatial position from visual scenes. These results lead the authors to claim that focusing on the classification of specific cell types is hindering rather than helping advancement in the understanding of spatial cognition. In fact they claim that the attention should rather be pointed at understanding highly-dimensional population coding, regardless of its direct interpretability or its appeal to human observers.
Strengths:<br /> Methodologically the paper is consistent and convincingly support the author claims regarding the role of cell types in coding for spatial aspects of cognition. It is also interesting how the authors leverage on established machine learning systems to provide a sort of counter-argument to the use of such techniques to establish a parallel between artificial and biological neural representations. In the recent past similar applications of artificial neural networks to spatial navigation have been directed at proving the importance of specific neural substrates (take for example Banino et al. 2018 for grid cells), while in this case the same procedure is used to unveil them as epiphenomena, so general and unspecific to be of very limited use in understanding the actual functioning of the neural system. I am quite confident that this stance regarding the role of place cells and co. could gather large sympathy and support in the greater part of the neuroscience community, or at least among the majority of theoretical neuroscientists with some interest in the hippocampus and higher cognition.
Weaknesses:<br /> My criticism of the paper can be articulated in three main points:<br /> - What about grid cells? Grid cells are notably not showing up in the analyses of the paper. But they surely can be considered as the 'mother' of all tailored spatial cells of the hippocampal formation. Are they falling outside the author's assessment of the importance of this kind of cells? Some discussion of the place grid cells occupy in the vision of the authors would greatly help.<br /> - The network used in the paper is still guided by a spatial error signal, and the network is trained to minimize spatial decoding error. In a sense, although object classfication networks are not designed for spatial navigation, one could say that the authors are in some way hacking this architecture and turning it into a spatial navigation one through learning. I wonder if their case could be strengthened by devising a version of their experiment based on some form of self-supervised or unsupervised learning.<br /> - The last point is more about my perception of the community studying hippocampal functions, rather than being directed at the merits of the paper itself. My question is whether the paper is fighting an already won battle. That is whether the focus on the minute classification of response profiles of cells in the hippocampus is in fact already considered an 'old' approach, very useful for some initial qualitative assessments but of limited power when asked to provide deeper insight into the functioning of hippocampal computations (or computations of any other brain circuit).
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Reviewer #3 (Public Review):
Summary:<br /> In this paper, the authors demonstrate the inevitably of the emergence of some degree of spatial information in sufficiently complex systems, even those that are only trained on object recognition (i.e. not "spatial" systems). As such, they present an important null hypothesis that should be taken into consideration for experimental design and data analysis of spatial tuning and its relevance for behavior.
Strengths:<br /> The paper's strengths include the use of a large multi-layer network trained in a detailed visual environment. This illustrates an important message for the field: that spatial tuning can be a result of sensory processing. While this is a historically recognized and often-studied fact in experimental neuroscience, it is made more concrete with the use of a complex sensory network. Indeed, the manuscript is a cautionary tale for experimentalists and computational researchers alike against blindly applying and interpreting metrics without adequate controls.
Weaknesses:<br /> However, the work has a number of significant weaknesses. Most notably: the degree and quality of spatial tuning is not analyzed to the standards of evidence historically used in studies of spatial tuning in the brain, and the authors do not critically engage with past work that studies the sensory influences of these cells; there are significant issues in the authors' interpretation of their results and its impact on neuroscientific research; the ability to linearly decode position from a large number of units is not a strong test of spatial information, nor is it a measure of spatial cognition; and the authors make strong but unjustified claims as to the implications of their results in opposition to, as opposed to contributing to, work being done in the field.
The first weakness is that the degree and quality of spatial tuning that emerges in the network is not analyzed to the standards of evidence that have been used in studies of spatial tuning in the brain. Specifically, the authors identify place cells, head direction cells, and border cells in their network and their conjunctive combinations. However, these forms of tuning are the most easily confounded by visual responses, and it's unclear if their results will extend to forms of spatial tuning that are not. Further, in each case, previous experimental work to further elucidate the influence of sensory information on these cells has not been acknowledged or engaged with.
For example, consider the head direction cells in Figure 3C. In addition to increased activity in some directions, these cells also have a high degree of spatial nonuniformity, suggesting they are responding to specific visual features of the environment. In contrast, the majority of HD cells in the brain are only very weakly spatially selective, if at all, once an animal's spatial occupancy is accounted for (Taube et al 1990, JNeurosci). While the preferred orientation of these cells are anchored to prominent visual cues, when they rotate with changing visual cues the entire head direction system rotates together (cells' relative orientation relationships are maintained, including those that encode directions facing AWAY from the moved cue), and thus these responses cannot be simply independent sensory-tuned cells responding to the sensory change) (Taube et al 1990 JNeurosci, Zugaro et al 2003 JNeurosci, Ajbi et al 2023).
As another example, the joint selectivity of detected border cells with head direction in Figure 3D suggests that they are "view of a wall from a specific angle" cells. In contrast, experimental work on border cells in the brain has demonstrated that these are robust to changes in the sensory input from the wall (e.g. van Wijngaarden et al 2020), or that many of them are not directionally selective (Solstad et al 2008).
The most convincing evidence of "spurious" spatial tuning would be the emergence of HD-independent place cells in the network, however, these cells are a small minority (in contrast to hippocampal data, Thompson and Best 1984 JNeurosci, Rich et al 2014 Science), the examples provided in Figure 3 are significantly more weakly tuned than those observed in the brain, and the metrics used by the authors to quantify place cell tuning are not clearly defined in the methods, but do not seem to be as stringent as those commonly used in real data. (e.g. spatial information, Skaggs et al 1992 NeurIPS).
Indeed, the vast majority of tuned cells in the network are conjunctively selective for HD (Figure 3A). While this conjunctive tuning has been reported, many units in the hippocampus/entorhinal system are *not* strongly hd selective (Muller et al 1994 JNeurosci, Sangoli et al 2006 Science, Carpenter et al 2023 bioRxiv). Further, many studies have been done to test and understand the nature of sensory influence (e.g. Acharya et al 2016 Cell), and they tend to have a complex relationship with a variety of sensory cues, which cannot readily be explained by straightforward sensory processing (rev: Poucet et al 2000 Rev Neurosci, Plitt and Giocomo 2021 Nat Neuro). E.g. while some place cells are sometimes reported to be directionally selective, this directional selectivity is dependent on behavioral context (Markus et al 1995, JNeurosci), and emerges over time with familiarity to the environment (Navratiloua et al 2012 Front. Neural Circuits). Thus, the question is not whether spatially tuned cells are influenced by sensory information, but whether feed-forward sensory processing alone is sufficient to account for their observed turning properties and responses to sensory manipulations.
These issues indicate a more significant underlying issue of scientific methodology relating to the interpretation of their result and its impact on neuroscientific research. Specifically, in order to make strong claims about experimental data, it is not enough to show that a control (i.e. a null hypothesis) exists, one needs to demonstrate that experimental observations are quantitatively no better than that control.
Where the authors state that "In summary, complex networks that are not spatial systems, coupled with environmental input, appear sufficient to decode spatial information." what they have really shown is that it is possible to decode *some degree* of spatial information. This is a null hypothesis (that observations of spatial tuning do not reflect a "spatial system"), and the comparison must be made to experimental data to test if the so-called "spatial" networks in the brain have more cells with more reliable spatial info than a complex-visual control.
Further, the authors state that "Consistent with our view, we found no clear relationship between cell type distribution and spatial information in each layer. This raises the possibility that "spatial cells" do not play a pivotal role in spatial tasks as is broadly assumed." Indeed, this would raise such a possibility, if 1) the observations of their network were indeed quantitatively similar to the brain, and 2) the presence of these cells in the brain were the only evidence for their role in spatial tasks. However, 1) the authors have not shown this result in neural data, they've only noticed it in a network and mentioned the POSSIBILITY of a similar thing in the brain, and 2) the "assumption" of the role of spatially tuned cells in spatial tasks is not just from the observation of a few spatially tuned cells. But from many other experiments including causal manipulations (e.g. Robinson et al 2020 Cell, DeLauilleon et al 2015 Nat Neuro), which the authors conveniently ignore. Thus, I do not find their argument, as strongly stated as it is, to be well-supported.
An additional weakness is that linear decoding of position is not a strong test, nor is it a measure of spatial cognition. The ability to decode position from a large number of weakly tuned cells is not surprising. However, based on this ability to decode, the authors claim that "'spatial' cells do not play a privileged role in spatial cognition". To justify this claim, the authors would need to use the network to perform e.g. spatial navigation tasks, then investigate the network's ability to perform these tasks when tuned cells were lesioned.
Finally, I find a major weakness of the paper to be the framing of the results in opposition to, as opposed to contributing to, the study of spatially tuned cells. For example, the authors state that "If a perception system devoid of a spatial component demonstrates classically spatially-tuned unit representations, such as place, head-direction, and border cells, can "spatial cells" truly be regarded as 'spatial'?" Setting aside the issue of whether the perception system in question does indeed demonstrate spatially-tuned unit representations comparable to those in the brain, I ask "Why not?" This seems to be a semantic game of reading more into a name then is necessarily there. The names (place cells, grid cells, border cells, etc) describe an observation (that cells are observed to fire in certain areas of an animal's environment). They need not be a mechanistic claim (that space "causes" these cells to fire) or even, necessarily, a normative one (these cells are "for" spatial computation). This is evidenced by the fact that even within e.g. the place cell community, there is debate about these cells' mechanisms and function (eg memory, navigation, etc), or if they can even be said to serve only a single function. However, they are still referred to as place cells, not as a statement of their function but as a history-dependent label that refers to their observed correlates with experimental variables. Thus, the observation that spatially tuned cells are "inevitable derivatives of any complex system" is itself an interesting finding which *contributes to*, rather than contradicts, the study of these cells. It seems that the authors have a specific definition in mind when they say that a cell is "truly" "spatial" or that a biological or artificial neural network is a "spatial system", but this definition is not stated, and it is not clear that the terminology used in the field presupposes their definition.
In sum, the authors have demonstrated the existence of a control/null hypothesis for observations of spatially-tuned cells. However, 1) It is not enough to show that a control (null hypothesis) exists, one needs to test if experimental observations are no better than control, in order to make strong claims about experimental data, 2) the authors do not acknowledge the work that has been done in many cases specifically to control for this null hypothesis in experimental work or to test the sensory influences on these cells, and 3) the authors do not rigorously test the degree or source of spatial tuning of their units.
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Reviewer #1 (Public Review):<br /> Summary:<br /> This interesting and well written article by Tuckowski et al. summarizes work connecting the flavin-containing monooxygenase FMO-4 with increased lifespan through a mechanism involving calcium signaling in the nematode Caenorhabditis elegans.
The authors have previously studied another fmo in worms, FMO-2, prompting them to look at additional members of this family of proteins. They show that fmo-4 is up in dietary restricted worms and necessary for the increased lifespan of these animals as well as of rsks-1 (s6 kinase) knockdown animals. They then show that overexpression of fmo-4 is sufficient to significantly increase lifespan, as well as healthspan and paraquat resistance. Further, they demonstrate that overexpression of fmo-4 solely in the hypodermis of the animal recapitulates the entire effect of fmo-4 OE.
In terms of interactions between fmo-2 and fmo-4 they show that fmo-4 is necessary for the previously reported effects of fmo-2 on lifespan, while the effects of fmo-4 do not depend on fmo-2.
Next the authors use RNASeq to compare fmo-4 OE animals to wild type. Their analyses suggested the possibility that FMO-4 was modulating calcium signaling, and through additional experiments specifically identified the calcium signaling genes crt-1, itr-1, and mcu-1 as important fmo-4 interactors<br /> in this context. As previously published work has shown that loss of the worm transcription factor atf-6 can extend lifespan through crt-1, itr-1 and mcu-1, the authors asked about interactions between fmo-4 and atf-6. They showed that fmo-4 is necessary for both lifespan extension and increased paraquat resistance upon RNAi knockdown of atf-6.
Overall this clearly written manuscript summarizes interesting and novel findings of great interest in the biology of aging and suggests promising avenues for future work in this area.
Strengths:<br /> This paper contains a large number of careful, well executed and analysed experiments in support of its existing conclusions, and which also point toward significant future directions for this work. In addition it is clear and very well written.
Weaknesses:<br /> Within the scope of the current work there are no major weaknesses. That said, the authors themselves note pressing questions beyond the scope of this study that remain unanswered. For instance, the mechanistic nature of the interactions between FMO-4 and the other players in this story, for example in terms of direct protein-protein interactions, is not at all understood yet. Further, powerful tools such as GCaMP expressing animals will enable a much more detailed understanding of what exactly is happening to calcium levels, and where and when it is happening, in these animals.
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Reviewer #2 (Public Review):
Summary:<br /> Members of a conserved family of flavin-containing monooxygenases (FMOs) are necessary and at least partly sufficient for lifespan extension induced by diet restriction and hypoxia. Of 5 FMOs in C. elegans, fmo-2 has received the majority of attention, but this study identifies that fmo-4 is also an important, positive modulator of lifespan. Based on differential requirements of fmo-2 and fmo-4 in stress resistance and lifespan extension paradigms, the authors conclude that fmo-4 acts through mechanisms that are overlapping, but distinct from fmo-2. Ultimately, the authors place fmo-2 genetically within a pathway involving atf-6, calreticulin, the IP3 receptor, and mitochondrial calcium uniporter, which was previously shown to link ER calcium homeostasis to mitochondrial homeostasis and longevity. Because the known enzymatic activity of FMOs involves oxygenating xenobiotic and endogenous metabolites, these findings highlight a potential new link between redox/metabolic homeostasis and ER-mitochondrial calcium signaling, while revealing that different FMO family members regulate stress resistance and lifespan through distinct mechanisms.
Strengths:<br /> The authors have used genetics to discover an interesting and unanticipated new link between conserved FMOs and ER calcium pathways known to regulate lifespan.
The genetic epistasis patterns for lifespan and stress resistance phenotypes are generally clean and compelling.
Weaknesses:<br /> The effects of carbachol and EDTA on intracellular calcium levels are inferred, especially in the tissues where fmo-4 is acting. Validating that these agents and fmo-4 itself have an impact on calcium in relevant subcellular compartments is important to support conclusions on how fmo-4 regulates and responds to calcium.
Experiments are generally reliant on RNAi. While in most cases experiments reveal positive results, indicating RNAi efficacy, key conclusions could be strengthened with the incorporation of mutants.
While FMO-4 is clearly placed in the ER calcium pathway genetically, a putative molecular mechanism by which FMO-4 would alter ER calcium remains unclear. Notably, Tuckowski et al. highlight this gap in the discussion as well.
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Reviewer #3 (Public Review):
Summary:<br /> The authors assessed the potential involvement of fmo-4 in a diverse set of longevity interventions, showing that this gene is required for DR and S6 kinase knockdown related lifespan extension. Using comprehensive epistasis experiments they find this gene to be a required downstream player in the longevity and stress resistance provided by fmo-2 overexpression. They further showed that fmo-4 ubiquitous overexpression is sufficient to provide longevity and paraquat (mitochondrial) stress resistance, and that overexpression specifically in the hypodermis is sufficient to recapitulate most of these effects.
Interestingly, they find that fmo-4 overexpression sensitizes worms to thapsigargin during development, an effect that they link with a potential dysregulation in calcium signalling. They go on to show that fmo-4 expression is sensitive to drugs that both increase or decrease calcium levels, and these drugs differentially affect lifespan of fmo-4 mutants compared to wild-type worms. Similarly, knockdown of genes involved in calcium binding and signalling also differentially affect lifespan and paraquat resistance of fmo-4 mutants.
Finally, they suggest that atf-6 limits the expression of fmo-4, and that fmo-4 is also acting downstream of benefits produced by atf-6 knockdown.
Strengths:<br /> • comprehensive lifespans experiments: clear placement of fmo-4 within established longevity interventions.<br /> • clear distinction in functions and epistatic interactions between fmo-2 and fmo-4 which lays a strong foundation for a longevity pathway regulated by this enzyme family.
Weaknesses:<br /> • no obvious transcriptomic evidence supporting a link between fmo-4 and calcium signalling: either for knockout worms or fmo-4 overexpressing strains.<br /> • no direct measures of alterations in calcium flux, signalling or binding that strongly support a connection with fmo-4.<br /> • no measures of mitochondrial morphology or activity that strongly support a connection with fmo-4.<br /> • lack of a complete model that places fmo-4 function downstream of DR and mTOR signalling (first Results section), fmo-2 (second Results section) and at the same time explains connection with calcium signalling.
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Reviewer #1 (Public Review):
This manuscript by Kleinman & Foster investigates the dependence of hippocampal replay on VTA activity. They recorded neural activity from the dorsal CA1 region of the hippocampus while chemogenetically silencing VTA dopamine neurons as rats completed laps on a linear track with reward delivery at each end. Reward amount changed across task epochs within a session on one end of the track. The authors report that VTA activity is necessary for an increase in sharp-wave rate to remain localized to the feeder that undergoes a change in reward magnitude, an effect that was especially pronounced in a novel environment. They follow up on this result with a second experiment in which reward magnitude varies unpredictably at one end of the linear track and report that changes in sharp-wave rate at the variable location reflect both the amount of reward rats just received there, in addition to a smaller modulation that is reminiscent of reward prediction error coding, in which the previous reward rats received at the variable location affects the magnitude of the subsequent change in sharp-wave rate that occurs on the present visit.
This work is technically innovative, combining neural recordings with chemogenetic inactivation. The question of how VTA activity affects replay in the hippocampus is interesting and important given that much of the work implicating hippocampal replay in memory consolidation and planning comes from reward-motivated behavioral tasks. Enthusiasm for the manuscript is dampened by some technical considerations about the chemogenetic portion of the experiments. Additionally, there are some interpretational issues related to whether changes in reward magnitude affected sharp-wave rate directly, or whether the reported changes in sharp-wave rate alter behavior and these behavioral changes affect sharp-wave rate.
Major issues:
Chemogenetics validation
Little validation is provided for the chemogenetic manipulations. The authors report that animals were excluded due to lack of expression but do not quantify/document the extent of expression in the animals that were included in the study. There's no independent verification that VTA was actually inhibited by the chemogenetic manipulation besides the experimental effects of interest.
The authors report a range of CNO doses. What determined the dose that each rat received? Was it constant for an individual rat? If not, how was the dose determined? The authors may wish to examine whether any of their CNO effects were dependent on dose.
The authors tested the same animal multiple times per day with relatively little time between recording sessions. Can they be certain that the effect of CNO wore off between sessions? Might successive CNO injections in the same day have impacted neural activity in the VTA differently? Could the chemogenetic manipulation have grown stronger with each successive injection (or maybe weaker due to something like receptor desensitization)? The authors could test statistically whether the effects of CNO that they report do not depend on the number of CNO injections a rat received over a short period of time.
Motivational considerations
In a similar vein, running multiple sessions per day raises the possibility that rats' motivation was not constant across all data collection time points. The authors could test whether any measures of motivation (laps completed, running speed) changed across the sessions conducted within the same day. This is a particularly tricky issue, because my read of the methods is that saline sessions were only conducted as the first session of any recording day, which means there's a session order/time of day and potential motivational confound in comparing saline to CNO sessions.
Statistics, statistical power, and effect sizes
Throughout the manuscript, the authors employ a mixture of t-tests, ANOVAs, and mixed-effects models. Only the mixed effects models appropriately account for the fact that all of this data involves repeated measurements from the same subject. The t-tests are frequently doubly inappropriate because they both treat repeated measures as independent and are not corrected for multiple comparisons.
The number of animals in these studies is on the lower end for this sort of work, raising questions about whether all of these results are statistically reliable and likely to generalize. This is particularly pronounced in the reward volatility experiment, where the number of rats in the experimental group is halved to just two. The results of this experiment are potentially very exciting, but the sample size makes this feel more like pilot data than a finished product.
The effect sizes of the various manipulations appear to be relatively modest, and I wonder if the authors could help readers by contextualizing the magnitude of these results further. For instance, when VTA inactivation increases mis-localization of SWRs to the unchanged end of the track, roughly how many misplaced sharp-waves are occurring within a session, and what would their consequence be? On this particular behavioral task, it's not clear that the animals are doing worse in any way despite the mislocalization of sharp-waves. And it seems like the absolute number of extra sharp-waves that occur in some of these conditions would be quite small over the course of a session, so it would be helpful if the authors could speculate on how these differences might translate to meaningful changes in processes like consolidation, for instance.
How directly is reward affecting sharp-wave rate?
Changes in reward magnitude on the authors' task cause rats to reallocate how much time they spent at each end. Coincident with this behavioral change, the authors identify changes in the sharp-wave rate, and the assumption is that changing reward is altering the sharp-wave rate. But it also seems possible that by inducing longer pauses, increased reward magnitude is affecting the hippocampal network state and creating an occasion for more sharp-waves to occur. It's possible that any manipulation so altering rats' behavior would similarly affect the sharp-wave rate.
For instance, in the volatility experiment, on trials when no reward is given sharp-wave rate looks like it is effectively zero. But this rate is somewhat hard to interpret. If rats hardly stopped moving on trials when no reward was given, and the hippocampus remained in a strong theta network state for the full duration of the rat's visit to the feeder, the lack of sharp-waves might not reflect something about reward processing so much as the fact that the rat's hippocampus didn't have the occasion to emit a sharp-wave. A better way to compute the sharp-wave rate might be to use not the entire visit duration in the denominator, but rather the total amount of time the hippocampus spends in a non-theta state during each visit. Another approach might be to include visit duration as a covariate with reward magnitude in some of the analyses. Increasing reward magnitude seems to increase visit duration, but these probably aren't perfectly correlated, so the authors might gain some leverage by showing that on the rare long visit to a low-reward end sharp-wave rate remains reliably low. This would help exclude the explanation that sharp-wave rate follows increases in reward magnitude simply because longer pauses allow a greater opportunity for the hippocampus to settle into a non-theta state.
The authors seem to acknowledge this issue to some extent, as a few analyses have the moments just after the rat's arrival at a feeder and just before departure trimmed out of consideration. But that assumes these sorts of non-theta states are only occurring at the very beginning and very end of visits when in fact rats might be doing all sorts of other things during visits that could affect the hippocampus network state and the propensity to observe sharp-waves.
Minor issues
The title/abstract should reflect that only male animals were used in this study.
The title refers to hippocampal replay, but for much of the paper the authors are measuring sharp-wave rate and not replay directly, so I would favor a more nuanced title.
Relatedly, the interpretation of the mislocalization of sharp-waves following VTA inactivation suggests that the hippocampus is perhaps representing information inappropriately/incorrectly for consolidation, as the increased rate is observed both for a location that has undergone a change in reward and one that has not. However, the authors are measuring replay rate, not replay content. It's entirely possible that the "mislocalized" replays at the unchanged end are, in fact, replaying information about the changed end of the track. A bit more nuance in the discussion of this effect would be helpful.
The authors use decoding accuracy during movement to determine which sessions should be included for decoding of replay direction. Details on cross-validation are omitted and would be appreciated. Also, the authors assume that sessions failed to meet inclusion criteria because of ensemble size, but this information is not reported anywhere directly. More info on the ensemble size of included/excluded sessions would be helpful.
For most of the paper, the authors detect sharp-waves using ripple power in the LFP, but for the analysis of replay direction, they use a different detection procedure based on the population firing rate of recorded neurons. Was there a reason for this switch? It's somewhat difficult to compare reported sharpwave/replay rates of the analyses given that different approaches were used.
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Reviewer #2 (Public Review):
(1) Summary<br /> Kleinman and Foster's study investigates the role of dopamine signaling in the ventral tegmental area (VTA) on hippocampal replay and sharp-wave ripples (SWR) in rats exposed to changes in reward magnitude and environmental novelty. The authors utilize chemogenetic silencing techniques to modulate dopamine neuron activity in the VTA while conducting simultaneous electrophysiological recordings from the hippocampal CA1 region. Their findings suggest that VTA dopamine signaling is critical for modulating hippocampal replay in response to changes in reward context and novelty, with specific disruptions observed in replay dynamics when VTA is inhibited, particularly in novel environments.
(2) Strengths<br /> The research addresses a significant gap in our understanding of the neurobiological underpinnings of memory and spatial learning, highlighting the importance of dopamine-mediated processes. The methodological approach is robust, combining chemogenetic silencing with precise electrophysiological measurements, which allows for a detailed examination of the neural circuits involved. The study provides important insights into how hippocampal replay and SWR are influenced by reward prediction errors, as well as the role of dopamine in these processes. Specifically, the authors note that VTA silencing unexpectedly did not prevent increases in ripple activities where reward was increased, but induced significant aberrant increases in environments where reward levels were unchanged, highlighting a novel dependency of hippocampal replay on dopamine and a VTA-independent reward prediction error signal in familiar environments. These findings are critical for understanding the consolidation of episodic memory and the neural basis of learning.
(3) Weaknesses<br /> Despite the strengths in methodology and conceptual framework, the study has several weaknesses that could affect the interpretation of the results. There is a need for more rigorous histological validation to confirm the extent and specificity of viral expression and electrode placements, which is crucial for ensuring the accuracy of the findings. Variability in the dosing and timing of chemogenetic interventions could also lead to inconsistencies in the data, suggesting a need for more standardized experimental protocols.
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Reviewer #3 (Public Review):
Summary:<br /> The authors of this work are trying to understand the role dopaminergic terminals coming from VTA have on hippocampal mechanisms of memory consolidation, with emphasis on the replay of hippocampal patterns of activity during periods of consummatory behavior in reward locations. Previous work suggested that replay of relevant spatial trajectories supports reward localization and influences behavior.
The authors then tried to separate two conditions that were known to cause an increase in replay activity - spatial novelty encoding and variation of reward magnitude - and evaluate how these changed when VTA dopamine neurons were inactivated by a chemogenetic tool. They found that the rate of reverse replay (trajectory going away from the goal location) is increased with reward only in novel, but not in familiar environments. Overall this suggests that the VTA dopamine signal is critical during learning of novel locations, but not during explorations of already familiar environments.
Strengths:<br /> The inactivation of VTA projections during goal-oriented behavior and in-vivo analysis of patterns of hippocampal activity during both novelty and reward variability. This work also adds to the body of evidence that reverse replay constitutes an important mechanism in learning spatial goal locations. It also points to the role of VTA in reward prediction errors with consequences for spatial navigation.
Weaknesses:<br /> It remains to be determined whether novelty and larger rewards are associated with longer ripple duration, not just rate, and larger content/trajectories of replay sequences as previously described (Fernández-Ruiz, 2019), and whether dopamine signal from the VTA has a role on this.
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Reviewer #1 (Public Review):
Summary:
In this study, the authors re-analyzed Experiment 1 of a public dataset (Rademaker et al, 2019, Nature Neuroscience) which includes fMRI and behavioral data recorded while participants held an oriented grating in visual working memory (WM) and performed a delayed recall task at the end of an extended delay period. In that experiment, participants were pre-cued on each trial as to whether there would be a distracting visual stimulus presented during the delay period (filtered noise or randomly oriented grating). In this manuscript, the authors focused on identifying whether the neural code in the retinotopic cortex for remembered orientation was 'stable' over the delay period, such that the format of the code remained the same, or whether the code was dynamic, such that information was present, but encoded in an alternative format. They identify some time points - especially towards the beginning/end of the delay - where the multivariate activation pattern fails to generalize to other time points and interpret this as evidence for a dynamic code. Additionally, the authors compare the representational format of remembered orientation in the presence vs absence of a distracting stimulus, averaged over the delay period. This analysis suggested a 'rotation' of the representational subspace between distracting orientations and remembered orientations, which may help preserve simultaneous representations of both remembered and viewed stimuli.
Strengths:
(1) Direct comparisons of coding subspaces/manifolds between time points and task conditions is an innovative and useful approach for understanding how neural representations are transformed to support cognition.
(2) Re-use of existing datasets substantially goes beyond the authors' previous findings by comparing the geometry of representational spaces between conditions and time points, and by looking explicitly for dynamic neural representations
Weaknesses:
(1) Only Experiment 1 of Rademaker et al (2019) is reanalyzed. The previous study included another experiment (Expt 2) using different types of distractors which did result in distractor-related costs to neural and behavioral measures of working memory. The Rademaker et al (2019) study uses these two results to conclude that neural WM representations are protected from distraction when distraction does not impact behavior, but conditions that do impact behavior also impact neural WM representations. Considering this previous result is critical for relating the present manuscript's results to the previous findings, it seems necessary to address Experimentt 2's data in the present work
(2) Primary evidence for 'dynamic coding', especially in the early visual cortex, appears to be related to the transition between encoding/maintenance and maintenance/recall, but the delay period representations seem overall stable, consistent with previous findings
(3) Dynamicism index used in Figure 1f quantifies the proportion of off-diagonal cells with significant differences in decoding performance from the diagonal cell. It's unclear why the proportion of time points is the best metric, rather than something like a change in decoding accuracy. This is addressed in the subsequent analysis considering coding subspaces, but the utility of the Figure 1f analysis remains weakly justified.
(4) There is no report of how much total variance is explained by the two PCs defining the subspaces of interest in each condition, and timepoint. It could be the case that the first two principal components in one condition (e.g., sensory distractor) explain less variance than the first two principal components of another condition.
(5) Converting a continuous decoding metric (angular error) to "% decoding accuracy" serves to obfuscate the units of the actual results. Decoding precision (e.g., sd of decoding error histogram) would be more interpretable and better related to both the previous study and behavioral measures of WM performance.
(6) This report does not make use of behavioral performance data in the Rademaker et al (2019) dataset.
(7) Given there were observed differences between individual retinotopic ROIs in the temporal cross-decoding analyses shown in Figure 1, the lack of data presented for the subspace analyses for the corresponding individual ROIs is a weakness
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Reviewer #2 (Public Review):
Summary:
In this work, Degutis and colleagues addressed an interesting issue related to the concurrent coding of sensory percepts and visual working memory contents in visual cortices. They used generalization analyses to test whether working memory representations change over time, diverge from sensory percepts, and vary across distraction conditions. Temporal generalization analysis demonstrated that off-diagonal decoding accuracies were lower than on-diagonal decoding accuracies, regardless of the presence of intervening distractions, implying that working memory representations can change over time. They further showed that the coding space for working memory contents showed subtle but statistically significant changes over time, potentially explaining the impaired off-diagonal decoding performance. The neural coding of sensory distractions instead remained largely stable. Generalization analyses between target and distractor codes showed overlaps but were not identical. Cross-condition decodings had lower accuracies compared to within-condition decodings. Finally, within-condition decoding revealed more reliable working memory representations in the condition with intervening random noises compared to cross-condition decoding using a trained classifier on data from the no-distraction condition, indicating a change in the VWM format between the noise distractor and no-distractor trials.
Strengths:
This paper demonstrates a clever use of generalization analysis to show changes in the neural codes of working memory contents across time and distraction conditions. It provides some insights into the differences between representations of working memory and sensory percepts, and how they can potentially coexist in overlapping brain regions.
Weaknesses:
(1) An alternative interpretation of the temporal dynamic pattern is that working memory representations become less reliable over time. As shown by the authors in Figure 1c and Figure 4a, the on-diagonal decoding accuracy generally decreased over time. This implies that the signal-to-noise ratio was decreasing over time. Classifiers trained with data of relatively higher SNR and lower SNR may rely on different features, leading to poor generalization performance. This issue should be addressed in the paper.
(2) The paper tests against a strong version of stable coding, where neural spaces representing WM contents must remain identical over time. In this version, any changes in the neural space will be evidence of dynamic coding. As the paper acknowledges, there is already ample evidence arguing against this possibility. However, the evidence provided here (dynamic coding cluster, angle between coding spaces) is not as strong as what prior studies have shown for meaningful transformations in neural coding. For instance, the principal angle between coding spaces over time was smaller than 8 degrees, and around 7 degrees between sensory distractors and WM contents. This suggests that the coding space for WM was largely overlapping across time and with that for sensory distractors. Therefore, the major conclusion that working memory contents are dynamically coded is not well-supported by the presented results.
(3) Relatedly, the main conclusions, such as "VWM code in several visual regions did not generalize well between different time points" and "VWM and feature-matching sensory distractors are encoded in separable coding spaces" are somewhat subjective given that cross-condition generalization analyses consistently showed above chance-level performance. These results could be interpreted as evidence of stable coding. The authors should use more objective descriptions, such as 'temporal generalization decoding showed reduced decoding accuracy in off-diagonals compared to on-diagonals.
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Reviewer #1 (Public Review):
In this work Jeong and colleagues focus on exploring the role of the acyltransferase ZDHHC9 in myelinating OLs in particular in the palmitoylation of several myelin proteins. After confirming the specific enrichment of the Zdhhc9 transcript in mouse and human OLs, the authors examine the subcellular localization of the protein in vitro and observed that in comparison with other isoforms, ZDHHC9 localizes at OLs cell bodies and at discrete puncta in the processes. These observations (Figures 1 and 2) led the authors to hypothesize that ZDHHC9 plays an important role in myelination. No gross changes were detected in OL development in Zdhhc9 KO mice and analyses from P28 Zdhhc9 KO mice crossed with Mobp-EGFP reporter mice did not show changes in EGFP+ OL differentiation (Figure 3). However, and given the observed subcellular localization of ZDHHC9 in OL processes (Figure 2) and the observation that the percentage of unmyelinated axons is increased in Zdhhc9 KO (Figure 6), early time points to examine the differentiated pools of OLs and their capacity to extend processes/contact axons need to be considered.
Maturation of OL in Zdhhc9 KO was examined by crossing Zdhhc9 KO with Pdgfra-CreER; R26- EGFP and following the newly EGFP-labelled OPCs following tamoxifen administration. No changes in the numbers of EGFP+ OL were detected. The authors concluded that the loss of ZDHHC9 does not alter oligodendrogenesis in either the young or mature CNS. The authors observed defects in Zdhhc9 KO OL protrusions that they attributed to abnormal OL membrane expansion (Fig 4 and 5). Can they show evidence for this?
The authors report that Zdhhc9 KO primary and secondary branches in OL were longer, some contained spheroid-like swellings and the OL protrusion complexity was higher. However, these data is partially contradictory to what they show in OL differentiation experiments in vitro (Fig 7). There is also no evidence for increased membrane expansion in Zdhhc9 knockdown myelin forming cells in culture. How to reconcile this?
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Reviewer #2 (Public Review):
This study provides an in-depth exploration of the impact of X-linked ZDHHC9 gene mutations on cognitive deficits and epilepsy, with a particular focus on the expression and function of ZDHHC9 in myelin-forming oligodendrocytes (OLs). These findings offer crucial insights into understanding ZDHHC9-related X-linked intellectual disability (XLID) and shed light on the regulatory mechanisms of palmitoylation in myelination. The experimental design and analysis of results are convincing, providing a valuable reference for further research in this field. However, upon careful review, I believe the article still needs further improvement and supplementation in the following aspects:
(1) Regarding the subcellular localization experiment of ZDHHC9 mutants in OL, it is currently limited to in vitro cultured OL, lacking validation in vivo OL or myelin sheath. Additionally, it is necessary to investigate whether the abnormal subcellular localization of ZDHHC9 mutants affects their enzyme activity and palmitoylation modification of substrate proteins.
(2) The experimental period (P21+21 days) using genetic labeling to track the development of myelinating cells may not be long enough. It is recommended to extend the observation time and analyze at more time points to more comprehensively reflect the impact of Zdhhc9 KO.
(3) The author speculates that Zdhhc9 may regulate myelination by affecting the membrane localization of specific myelin proteins, but lacks direct experimental evidence to support this. It is suggested to detect the expression and distribution of relevant proteins in the myelin of Zdhhc9 KO mice.
(4) Although the article mentions the association of Zdhhc9 with intellectual disabilities, it does not involve behavioral analysis of Zdhhc9 KO mice. It is recommended to supplement some behavioral experimental data to support the important role of Zdhhc9 in maintaining normal cognitive function, enhancing the clinical relevance of the article.
(5) For the abnormal myelination observed in Zdhhc9 KO mice, including unmyelinated large-diameter axons and excessively myelinated small-diameter axons, the article lacks in-depth research and explanation on the exact mechanism and mode of action of ZDHHC9 in regulating myelination.
(6) The function of ZDHHC9 in OL may be related to the Golgi apparatus, but its exact role in these structures is still unclear. It is suggested to discuss in more detail the role of ZDHHC9 in the Golgi apparatus in the discussion section.
(7) More experimental support and in-depth research are needed on the detailed mechanism of how ZDHHC9 and Golga7 cooperatively regulate MBP palmitoylation, and how this decrease in palmitoylation level leads to myelination defects.
In summary, it is recommended that the authors address the above issues through additional experiments and improved discussions to further strengthen the credibility and clinical relevance of the article.
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Reviewer #1 (Public Review):
Summary:
In the paper, Yan and her colleagues investigate at which stage of development different categorical signals can be detected with EEG using a steady-state visual evoked potential paradigm. The study reports the development trajectory of selective responses to five categories (i.e., faces, limbs, corridors, characters, and cars) over the first 1.5 years of life. It reveals that while responses to faces show significant early development, responses to other categories (i.e., characters and limbs) develop more gradually and emerge later in infancy. The paper is well-written and enjoyable, and the content is well-motivated and solid.
Strengths:
(1) This study contains a rich dataset with a substantial amount of effort. It covers a large sample of infants across ages (N=45) and asks an interesting question about when visual category representations emerge during the first year of life.
(2) The chosen category stimuli are appropriate and well-controlled. These categories are classic and important for situating the study within a well-established theoretical framework.
(3) The brain measurements are solid. Visual periodicity allows for the dissociation of selective responses to image categories within the same rapid image stream, which appears at different intervals. This is important for the infant field, as it provides a robust measure of ERPs with good interpretability.
Weaknesses:
The study would benefit from a more detailed explanation of analysis choices, limitations, and broader interpretations of the findings. This includes:<br /> a) improving the treatment of bias from specific categories (e.g., faces) towards others;<br /> b) justifying the specific experimental and data analysis choices;<br /> c) expanding the interpretation and discussion of the results.
I believe that giving more attention to these aspects would improve the study and contribute positively to the field.
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Reviewer #2 (Public Review):
Summary:
The current work investigates the neural signature of category representation in infancy. Neural responses during steady-state visually-evoked potentials (ssVEPs) were recorded in four age groups of infants between 3 and 15 months. Stimuli (i.e., faces, limbs, corridors, characters, and cars) were presented at 4.286 Hz with category changes occurring at a frequency of 0.857 Hz. The results of the category frequency analyses showed that reliable responses to faces emerge around 4-6 months, whereas responses to libs, corridors, and characters emerge at around 6-8 months. Additionally, the authors trained a classifier for each category to assess how consistent the responses were across participants (leave-one-out approach). Spatiotemporal responses to faces were more consistent than the responses to the remaining categories and increased with increasing age. Faces showed an advantage over other categories in two additional measures (i.e., representation similarity and distinctiveness). Together, these results suggest a different developmental timing of category representation.
Strengths:
The study design is well organized. The authors described and performed analyses on several measures of neural categorization, including innovative approaches to assess the organization of neural responses. Results are in support of one of the two main hypotheses on the development of category representation described in the introduction. Specifically, the results suggest a different timing in the formation of category representations, with earlier and more robust responses emerging for faces over the remaining categories. Graphic representations and figures are very useful when reading the results.
Weaknesses:
The role of the adult dataset in the goal of the current work is unclear. All results are reported in the supplementary materials and minimally discussed in the main text. The unique contribution of the results of the adult samples is unclear and may be superfluous.
It would be useful to report the electrodes included in the analyses and how they have been selected.
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Reviewer #3 (Public Review):
Yan et al. present an EEG study of category-specific visual responses in infancy from 3 to 15 months of age. In their experiment, infants viewed visually controlled images of faces and several non-face categories in a steady state evoked potential paradigm. The authors find visual responses at all ages, but face responses only at 4-6 months and older, and other category-selective responses at later ages. They find that spatiotemporal patterns of response can discriminate faces from other categories at later ages.
Overall, I found the study well-executed and a useful contribution to the literature. The study advances prior work by using well-controlled stimuli, subgroups of different ages, and new analytic approaches.
I have two main reservations about the manuscript: (1) limited statistical evidence for the category by age interaction that is emphasized in the interpretation; and (2) conclusions about the role of learning and experience in age-related change that are not strongly supported by the correlational evidence presented.
(1) The overall argument of the paper is that selective responses to various categories develop at different trajectories in infants, with responses to faces developing earlier. Statistically, this would be most clearly demonstrated by a category-by-age interaction effect. However, the statistical evidence for a category by interaction effect presented is relatively weak, and no interaction effect is tested for frequency domain analyses. The clearest evidence for a significant interaction comes from the spatiotemporal decoding analysis (p. 10). In the analysis of peak amplitude and latency, an age x category interaction is only found in one of four tests, and is not significant for latency or left-hemisphere amplitude (Supp Table 8). For the frequency domain effects, no test for category by age interaction is presented. The authors find that the effects of a category are significant in some age ranges and not others, but differences in significance don't imply significant differences. I would recommend adding category by age interaction analysis for the frequency domain results, and ensuring that the interpretation of the results is aligned with the presence or lack of interaction effects.
(2) The authors argue that their results support the claim that category-selective visual responses require experience or learning to develop. However, the results don't bear strongly on the question of experience. Age-related changes in visual responses could result from experience or experience-independent maturational processes. Finding age-related change with a correlational measure does not favor either of these hypotheses. The results do constrain the question of experience, in that they suggest against the possibility that category-selectivity is present in the first few months of development, which would in turn suggest against a role of experience. However the results are still entirely consistent with the possibility of age effects driven by experience-independent processes. The manner in which the results constrain theories of development could be more clearly articulated in the manuscript, with care taken to avoid overly strong claims that the results demonstrate a role of experience.
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Reviewer #1 (Public Review):
This work presents a replicable difference in predictive processing between subjects with and without tinnitus. In two independent MEG studies and using a passive listening paradigm, the authors identify an enhanced prediction score in tinnitus subjects compared to control subjects. In the second study, individuals with and without tinnitus were carefully matched for hearing levels (next to age and sex), increasing the probability that the identified differences could truly be attributed to the presence of tinnitus. Results from the first study could successfully be replicated in the second, although the effect size was notably smaller.
Throughout the manuscript, the authors provide a thoughtful interpretation of their key findings and offer several interesting directions for future studies. Their conclusions are fully supported by their findings. Moreover, the authors are sufficiently aware of the inherent limitations of cross-sectional studies.
Strengths:
The robustness of the identified differences in prediction scores between individuals with and without tinnitus is remarkable, especially as successful replication studies are rare in the tinnitus field. Moreover, the authors provide several plausible explanations for the decline of the effect size observed in the second study.
The rigorous matching for hearing loss, in addition to age and sex, in the second study is an important strength. This ensures that the identified differences cannot be attributed to differences in hearing levels between the groups.
The used methodology is explained clearly and in detail, ensuring that the used paradigms may be employed by other researchers in future studies. Moreover, the registering of the data collection and analysis methods for Study 2 as a Registered Report should be commended, as the authors have clearly adhered to the methods as registered.
Weaknesses:
Although the authors have been careful to match their experimental groups for age, sex, and hearing loss, there are other factors that may confound the current results. For example, subjects with tinnitus might present with psychological comorbidities such as anxiety and depression. The authors' exclusion of distress as a candidate for explaining the found effects is based solely on an assessment of tinnitus-related distress, while it is currently not possible to exclude the effects of elevated anxiety or depression levels on the results. Additionally, as the authors address in the discussion, the presence of hyperacusis may also play a role in predictive processing in this population.
The authors write that sound intensity was individually determined by presenting a short audio sequence to the participants and adjusting the loudness according to an individual pleasant volume. Neural measurements made during listening paradigms might be influenced by sound intensity levels. The intensity levels chosen by the participants might therefore also have an effect on the outcomes. The authors currently do not provide information on the sound intensity levels in the experimental groups, making it impossible to assess whether sound intensity levels might have played a role.
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Reviewer #2 (Public Review):
Summary:
This study aimed to test experimentally a theoretical framework that aims to explain the perception of tinnitus, i.e., the perception of a phantom sound in the absence of external stimuli, through differences in auditory predictive coding patterns. To this aim, the researchers compared the neural activity preceding and following the perception of a sound using MEG in two different studies. The sounds could be highly predictable or random, depending on the experimental condition. They revealed that individuals with tinnitus and controls had different anticipatory predictions. This finding is a major step in characterizing the top-down mechanisms underlying sound perception in individuals with tinnitus.
Strengths:
This article uses an elegant, well-constructed paradigm to assess the neural dynamics underlying auditory prediction. The findings presented in the first experiment were partially replicated in the second experiment, which included 80 participants. This large number of participants for an MEG study ensures very good statistical power and a strong level of evidence. The authors used advanced analysis techniques - Multivariate Pattern Analysis (MVPA) and classifier weights projection - to determine the neural patterns underlying the anticipation and perception of a sound for individuals with or without tinnitus. The authors evidenced different auditory prediction patterns associated with tinnitus. Overall, the conclusions of this paper are well supported, and the limitations of the study are clearly addressed and discussed.
Weaknesses:
Even though the authors took care of matching the participants in age and sex, the control could be more precise. Tinnitus is associated with various comorbidities, such as hearing loss, anxiety, depression, or sleep disorders. The authors assessed individuals' hearing thresholds with a pure tone audiogram, but they did not take into account the high frequencies (6 kHz to 16 kHz) in the patient/control matching. Moreover, other hearing dysfunctions, such as speech-in-noise deficits or hyperacusis, could have been taken into account to reinforce their claim that the observed predictive pattern was not linked to hearing deficits. Mental health and sleep disorders could also have been considered more precisely, as they were accounted for only indirectly with the score of the 10-item mini-TQ questionnaire evaluating tinnitus distress. Lastly, testing the links between the individuals' scores in auditory prediction and tinnitus characteristics, such as pitch, loudness, duration, and occurrence (how often it is perceived during the day), would have been highly informative.
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