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No one “wins” New York. Ha, ha
Follows the negative theme of the article. Why can no one win? The city cannot take everyone prisoner!
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God, you didn’t move to play make-believe, did you?
New York is not as soft and forgiving as shown in the movies. There is a reality behind it!
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Complaining is the only right you have as a New Yorker.
Connecting to A Glance at New York, when the characters constantly complain that they want to go home or back to the country, but they never leave. Complaining is a lifestyle in New York. There is so much to complain about. But so much to love about it, too.
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If New York were a cat, it would eat your face after you collapsed in the kitchen from a heart attack.
Seems a bit harsh. Why is New York displayed so harshly? If New York were a cat, it would walk right past your face after you collapsed in the kitchen from a heart attack, without even noticing.
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The plan you don’t plan for isn’t the plan you planned but it’s usually more original.
Everyone seems to come to New York with this romanticized idea of what life will be like. Nothing can really be planned out in New York. Things just happen, constantly changing. It will be different, in a good way.
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You will lose. Everyone loses.
The author embraces the difficulties of living in New York while Dorot uses them as propaganda to discourage young women from moving to the city. What would the author say about Dorot's advice?
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Money only buys two things: lavish self-deceptions and comfortable suffering.
This is an interesting statement if placed next to Didion's statement in Goodbye to All That. If New York is only for the rich (and young) then money cloaks the inevitable suffering in New York.
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That your rent is a tumor in the guts of your bank account.
Connection in theme to The Coming Bachelor Girl. Both Dorot and Devor discuss the weight that rent carries.
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New York’s indifference to your plight makes you strong. Fall to your knees and thank New York for making you strong.
After all the bad things being said about the city, this seems to be a positive one. The writer later explains how he misses the city dearly. Do you think that the message of this is that because New York makes you stronger, it out ways all the negative aspects, and gives purpose to stay in the city?
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Just avoid people who smile too much. Especially when smiling is not the appropriate emotional response to a situation.
THEME: Connection to Confidence man. The advice to avoid seemingly nice people. Also connection to a couple paragraphs above..."optimism is a poison. If given a chance they will sell you out." It touches the idea that anyone can be out to get you in the city.
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Just avoid people who smile too much. Especially when smiling is not the appropriate emotional response to a situation.
THEME: Connection to Confidence man. The advice to avoid seemingly nice people. also connection to a couple paragraphs above..."optimism is a poison. If given a chance they will sell you out." It touches the idea that anyone can be out to get you in the city.
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New York isn’t your fantasy. You’re the fantasy in New York’s imagination. One day the fever will break and every New Yorker will immediately cease to be.
Saying that people don't choose to go to New York, New York pulls people in and decides what happens to them. It's kind of personifying New York because it is playing it out to be like an evil controller of fate and once people realize that..then they will all leave.
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It’s cold. You’re broke. Dad’s dead. It hurts.
ties in with the Coming Bachelor Girl and the themes of finding success in the city and independence; you must struggle before finding success and be financially independent to really experience the pains of the urban environment
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Money is Jesus.
common theme in all writing about specifically New York...ex: rent is insanely high, everything is more expensive
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Isn’t that why you moved to New York? To be original?
Interesting how everyone comes to the city to be original, but because everyone is doing essentially the same thing, there really is no originality at all?
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New York’s indifference to your plight makes you strong. Fall to your knees and thank New York for making you strong.
More insight/experience from living in NYC
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New York City does not lie. Its honesty is the only thing that makes this cold chunk of over-developed concrete special.
Truths about NYC and its way of life
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Since the Revolution, Americans had • stressed that what made a republic great was the character and spirit of its people. The ultimate threat of the confidence man was thus his power to subvert the American republican experiment.
Conservative advice writers were concerned with the political ramifications of urban living (the corruption of traditional values and moral decay). It's interesting to think of urbanization in not only an economic but political context considering how young and relatively untested the country was
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They,insinuate themselves into his confidence and friendship."
trust no one
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to a poison, a disease, a source of contamination and corruption. The impressions made by wicked companions were "like poison, taken into the physical system, and will be sure, sooner or later, to reveal its bitter results."
The influence of confidence is like poison, and by the looks of it there is no antidote.
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Malleable and confiding by natu;e, the youth proved easy prey
High school students often follow along and do the same things as their peers or friend group. We are all affected by the company we keep, especially in our youth.
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evil comes to them as an enticement."1
Is there something enticing about something forbidden? How can we change what we find enticing to something more positive?
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Ever since the Great Awakening, the official power and prestige of the American clergy had be~n in a state of decline. With the coming of the American Revoluuon, and espe-cially by the nineteenth century, ministers--l,.~~ ?egun to sh?re up their failing status by claiming major responsibility for formu~g the character of the rising generation in the young republic. 88 But m the confidence man, they found what they perceived to b~ a serious competitor for the power to shape the character of Amencan Y?uth.
This seems to be a recurring thing throughout history. When rock and roll started teenagers started acting differently and parents thought they lost control of their kids behavior. Now, some older people think technology has almost corrupted our generation socially. It is always the older generation worried about the younger ones. If confidence men were the competition for shaping the youth, what were they up against? How did the older people want to shape the youth? Is having a competitor is this area inevitable?
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young man had just set foot in the city when he was approached by a confidence man seeking to dupe and destroy him. Why did this archetypal villain pop out of the shadows just as the American youth entered the city in search of fame and fortune?
It is obvious as to why confidence men choose young men first arriving with high asperations. However, no text surrounding confidence men speak about the motivation behind all of this. It is clear that a confidence man wants to benefit himself by tricking a young man into giving him money or something of value. What is the purpose of trying to ruin the youth FOREVER. Is this over exaggeration simply writing tactic? Are confidence men really in it to ruin people or just to benefit themselves?
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There is the seducer in the shape of the young man who came before him, and who has already lost the last remains of shame. Th
This connects to Glance At New York in that as soon as George arrives in the city he is almost immediately seduced by Jake and Mike. Here, we see that there seems to be imminent danger present.
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the total enslavement of his victim.
is this diction too extreme? "enslavement" and "victim" seem to be exaggerating
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liml!la.i
liminal: occupying a position at a boundary or threshold
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Although the term confidence man does not appear in the advice manuals, it accurately identifies the villain of the piece. The seducer-whether rake or pimp, gambler or, thief-begins his as-sault on the innocent youth by winning his confidence through an offer of friendship and entertainment.
Confidence Man definition
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All the major elements of eighteenth-century republican ideology-the struggle between liberty and power, the danger of corruption and decay, the ultimate threat of tyranny and enslavement-were present in the nineteenth-century confidence game. In it, the passive liberty of tμe American youth falls victim to the self-aggrandizing power of the confidence man.
The Era of the Confidence Man (background on situation)
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In the confi-dence game, an impressionable youth fell under the power of a villain who corrupted his character, enticed him into a life of vice, and finally reduced him to slavery.
This is an example of a recurring writing tactic, involving the use of hyperbole, to scare the youth that want to move to the city.
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rustic hero entered [the city] to seek fame and fortune."
goal of outsiders coming into urban environment
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unprecedented numbers of young men were leaving their rural homes and families to seek work in the booming cities
left country to find jobs in city during industrialization
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The figure of the confidence man was not entirely new within American success mythology. A century before he made his appear-ance in the antebellum advice manuals, he had approached Ben Franklin in the person of Governor Keith of Philadelphia, who falsely promised to set up the naive youth as the colony's printer
History of the 'confidence man'
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Although the term confidence man does not appear in the advice manuals, it accurately identifies the villain of the piece. The seducer-whether rake or pimp, gambler or, thief-begins his as-sault on the innocent youth by winning his confidence through an offer of friendship and entertainment. In the classic antebellum tale of seduction, he then leads the youth into a gorgeous theater-the seducer's natural habitat, for he himself is a skilled actor. He takes him to a fashionable club where he coaxes his prey into accepting his fatal first drink and gradually draws him into a card game. Finally, he lures his victim to a brothel where, if the theater and the alcohol and the gambling have failed to win him to a life of vice, illicit sexuality succeeds. The youth's character has been destroyed, step by fatal step, because he has been tricked into offering his confidence to a man without principle, a man whose art it'is to deceive others through false appearances.
confidence men=idea of californication. (helps understand it in a modern sense)
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the youth's urban companion. He was the stranger who approached the young man just entering--the city, at the precise moment when all familial and communal re-straints were falling away. The urban stranger began his confidence game with an offer of friendship:
The type of confidence man seen in Glance At New York (ex: Jake, Mike)
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But nineteenth-century advice writers added a significant new dimension to this powerful image.
Alcott is an example of this.
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broke away from traditional re-straints on their conduct,
the city is less moral
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The youth's character has been destroyed, step by fatal step
What is the motivation for "destroying the youth?
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The moment the inexperienced youth sets his foot on the side-walk of the city, he is marked and watched by eyes that he never dreamed of.
in keeping with the loss of isolation of city life
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I had the feeling that if I needed money I could always get it. I could write a syndicated column for teenagers under the name "Debbi Lynn" or I could smuggle gold into India or I could become a $100 call girl, and none of it would matter.
The possibilities of the city - endless ways to make a living, both positive and negative.
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nformed me that it would never be quite the same again. In fact it never was.
Expectation vs Reality - a sad truth
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New York was no mere city. It was instead an infinitely romantic notion, the mysteri-ous nexus of all love and money and power, the shining and perishable dream itself. To think of "living" there was to reduce the miraculous to the mundane; one does not "live" at Xanadu.
the illusion/the dream/the ideal vs. the reality of the city. you come to NYC to live the dream but in doing so you kill the fantasy. the narrator is staying out of the hope that NYC does live up to her imagination
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Nothing was irrevocable; everything was within reach. Just around every comer lay something curious and interest-ing, something I had never before seen or done or known
she feels optimistic and invisible without any concrete reason to (as she says she's poor, not working a high paying job). demonstrates how the attractiveness of the city can manipulate young people into staying against better judgment (see coming bachelor girl)
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could taste th~ peach and feel the soft air blowing from a subway grating on my legs and I could smell lilac and garbage and expensive perfume and I knew that it would cost something sooner or later-because I did not belong there,
interesting contradictions, peach/lilac/perfume vs. garbage/grating subway. maybe highlighting the tension between her love of New York and the sense that she doesn't belong there
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I began to cherish the loneliness of it, the sense that at any given time no one need know where I was or what I was doing.
themes of isolation and anonymity
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I recall waiting in one of them to watch an astronaut go into space, waiting so long that at the mo-ment it ctually happened I had my eyes not on the television screen t on a cockroach on the tile floor.
telling juxtaposition of lowest life form and man's greatest achievement suggests that Didion feels trapped between these two poles, stuck in limbo state
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I began to cherish the loneliness of it, the sense that at any given time no one need know where I was or what I was doing.
theme of anonymity
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"New faces," he said finally, "don't tell me about new faces." It seemed that the last time he had gone to a party where he had been promised "new faces," there had been fifteen people in the room, and he had already slept with five of the women and owed money to all but two of the men.
This contradicts the image of New York as a place of endless possibilities and anonymity
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I never told my father that I needed money because then he would have sent it, and I would never know if I could do it by myself.
Reminds me of The Coming Bachelor Girl because she suggested you stay independent and build your own success, instead of asking your family for money.
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Ir 1s EASY to see the beginnings of things, and harder to see the ends.
Another way New York is romanticized: new beginnings. Then reality hits and things aren't what you expected. Beginnings turn into ends.
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minutiae
the small, precise, or trivial details of something
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I would stay in New York, I told him, just six months, and I could see the Brooklyn Bridge from my window. As it turned out the bridge was the Triborough, and I stayed eight years.
the naive outsider who is lured into New York
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"but where is the school-girl whp used to be me," and if it was late enough at night I used to wonder that.
ties in with the idea of the confidence men and the city as a home to corruption...everyone seems to adapt to a more scandalous or nontraditional life in the urban atmosphere
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You see I was in a curious position in New York: it never occurre~ to me that I was living a real life there.
the idea of constantly being in a dream-like state while experiencing moments of absolute, albeit painful, clarity seems to be a theme.
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"New faces," he said finally, "don't tell me about new faces."
this contributes to the idea that one becomes jaded the longer they live in a city. Everything becomes banal.
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In retrospect it seems to me that those days before I knew the names of all the bridges were happier than the ones that came later,
This attests to the common idea that living in a large city contributes to depression, anxiety, etc. Her innocence and naiveté is apparent. While being inexperienced can be a hindrance, it can also provide protection.
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It is often said that New York is a city for only the very rich and the very poor. It is less often said that New York is also, at least for those of us who came there from somewhere else, a city for only the very young.
This could potentially be stated about any large city.
Is this writer saying this because she personally had a bad experience with the city over time...or does this hold true for everyone?
Is she trying to discourage others from city living if those standards don't apply?
This part ties back to the theme that everything is good in moderation...once you have too much of the city when you get older, it spoils your way of living.
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I stopped believing in new faces and began to under-stand the lesson in that story, which was that it is distinctly possible to stay too long at the Fair
This is the moral of the story. This theme of "staying too long at the fair" connects to the modern world because it demonstrates how people tend to overuse things without noticing, and it goes to show that everything is good in moderation.
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There were. years when I called Los Angeles "the Coast,'' but they seem a long time ago.
Goodbye to all that -transition and point where the narrator completely gets over NY and assumes LA as new home.
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