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- Aug 2023
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aeon.co aeon.co
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Damanhur’s mock battles prevent the kind of burn-out you find when the most empathetic people in a community get tasked with dealing with the emotional needs of others, putting a lot a strain on the shoulders of a few.
- for: intentional communities, intentional communities - failure, cults
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- This article does not seem to be aware of the controversy at Damanhur:
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The bottom line is that many intentional communities exist because of wealthy patrons and benefactors, and courting philanthropy and start-up capital is part of the job of charismatic founders.
- for: intentional communities - funding
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- the fact that many intentional communities court wealthy benefactors means that they are not really autonomous or resilient but instead, parasitic on the very society they are trying to escape
- and depending on 60% of your funding coming from workshops or spiritual tourism implies it isn't that resilient if eco-disaster were to strike.
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she writes about her time cutting and baling hay, making butter, driving a tractor, cutting firewood, baking bread, and taking care of children, animals and the wellbeing of her peers.
- for: intentional communities, intentional communities - failures
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- modern, industrialized society is still a massively interdependent system
- what many who start intentional communities don't realize is this refined interdependency give us a lot of time savings
- we find that out when we live in an intentional community and have to make everything ourselves
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When the Welsh social reformer Robert Owen established New Harmony in 1825, on 20,000 acres in Indiana, he attracted an enthusiastic following, gaining more than 800 members in just a little over six weeks.
- for: intentional communities - case study - New Harmony
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- New Harmony
- Year: 1825
- Location: Indiana
- Size: 20,000 acres
- Members: 800 in first 6 weeks
- ideals
- environment
- education
- abolish private property
- problems
- low percentage of hard skills
- 140 of 800 had skills contributing to local industry,
- 36 were skilled farmers
- indiscriminate and allowed too many without skills to join
- intentional communities are often the most attractive for a dangerous constellation of actors
- dreamers,
- drifters,
- seekers in need of belonging,
- the needy and wounded,
- the egomaniacal and power-thirsty
- free riders, lazy and without skills
- founder was absent a large percentage of the time
- low percentage of hard skills
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the more relevant drivers that cause many communities to unravel sound more like the challenges afflicting any organisation today: capital constraints, burn-out, conflict over private property and resource management, poor systems of conflict mediation, factionalism, founder problems, reputation management, skills shortage, and failure to attract new talent or entice subsequent generations.
- for: intentional communities, intentional communities - failure
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- reasons for failure:sound more like the challenges afflicting any organisation today:
- capital constraints,
- burn-out,
- conflict over private property
- conflict over resource management,
- poor systems of conflict mediation,
- factionalism,
- founder problems,
- reputation management,
- skills shortage,
- failure to attract new talent
- failure to entice subsequent generations.
- reasons for failure:sound more like the challenges afflicting any organisation today:
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the irony is that many of the administrative and managerial forces that individuals are running away from within mainstream society are exactly the organisational tools that would make intentional communities more resilient:
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- irony
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- the irony is that many of the administrative and managerial forces that individuals are running away from within mainstream society
- are exactly the organisational tools that would make intentional communities more resilient
- the irony is that many of the administrative and managerial forces that individuals are running away from within mainstream society
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attrition rates for intentional communities are not all that different from many other types of human endeavour.
- for: stats, intentional community, intentional communities, - stats - intentional communities
- intentional communities fail at a rate slightly higher than most startups
- startup failure rate is around 90%
- longevity of Fortune 500 companies listed in 1955 to 2017
- failure rate of 88%
- S&P companies average lifespan: 15 years
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Generally, intentional communities fail at a rate slightly higher than that of most start-ups. Only a handful of communities founded in the US during the 19th century’s ‘golden age of communities’ lasted beyond a century; most folded in a matter of months. This golden age birthed more than 100 experimental communities, with more than 100,000 members in total who, according to the historian Mark Holloway in Heavens on Earth (1951)
- for: stats, intentional community, intentional communities, stats - intentional communities
- intentional communities fail at a rate slightly higher than most startups
- for: stats, intentional community, intentional communities, stats - intentional communities
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- for: intentional community, intentional communities, eco-community, ecocommunity
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- Utopia Inc Most utopian communities are, like most start-ups, short-lived. What makes the difference between failure and success?
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- Damanhur
- utopia
- irony - intentional communties
- intentional communities - failure
- intentional communities - funding
- intentional communities - fatal flaw
- irony
- Robert Owen
- intentional communities
- New Harmony
- intentional community
- cults
- Damanhur - controversy
- stats - intentional communities
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areomagazine.com areomagazine.com
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“If everyone did it the world would be a better place.”
- for: intentional communities - failure
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- moral highground and not actually having a collective scaling strategy are the reasons why this typically fails
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these kinds of issues are systemic and intrinsic and maybe even foundational to intentional communities.
- for: intentional community, intentional communities, intentional communities - failure
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- intentional communities have a fatal flaw, an intrinsic Achilles Heel
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478 intentional communities since the 1820s have now shrunk to 112 worldwide in the last 30 years)
- for: intentional community, intentional communities, intentional communities - failure, stats, stats - intentional communities
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- of 478 intentional communities since the 1820s,
- 112 exist worldwide in the last 30 years (1988 - 2018
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- for: intentional community, intentional communities, intentional communities - failure, stats, stats - intentional communities
- stats
- of 478 intentional communities since the 1820s,
- 112 exist worldwide in the last 30 years (1988 - 2018
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docdrop.org docdrop.org
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- for: city DAO, decentralized city, intentional community, intentional communities, Jonathan Willis, Cabin DAO
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docdrop.org docdrop.org
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how do you how do you think about what that community looks like and how you communicate that because in many senses you could say obviously you're hoping to build utopia 00:09:30 not dystopia right but but utopia and dystopia are different things with different people right and you could start out on this journey with uh with everyone saying we're going 00:09:42 to go to here point point a and then actually they decide their life changes they have a family or whatever they want to go over here and they put a lot of time into this or and equally point a could actually end up not looking like what they want to to be 00:09:55 part of how are you managing that journey for the people as part of the path
- for: intentional community, intentional communities, DAO community, decentralized cities, Jonathan Hillis, Nora Bateson, intentional communities - failure
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- this is a critical question
- unfortunately, many people have tried living in intentional communities over many decades and the success rate is not high
- listen to what Nora Bateson has to say about her experience of living in idealistic intentional communities and why they fail
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https://hyp.is/ISC75i5JEe6lgW93D0Ye_A/docdrop.org/video/GE39xfNRRyw/
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- for: decentralized cities, DAO city, intentional community, intentional communities
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- Jonathan Hillis is interviewed about his decentralized cities project
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docdrop.org docdrop.org
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I grew up at Esalen and all these crazy new age-ey sort of places, and I can tell you that I have 00:54:38 seen every flavor of self-help and personal development that you could shake a stick at. And none of them work. They all breed assholes. I mean, I'm sorry, but if you're an asshole, there's no way around it. Nothing's going to fix you. And if you're not an asshole, then everything is going to make you less of an asshole. So the reason that's important is that there's 00:55:02 a lot of pressure on how people should live, how they should think, how they should be, how they should feel. And this top-down instructional of telling people how to live, think and feel is, I think, a completely un-ecological process that is interrupting the possibilities
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I can tell you that my experience is that intentional communities are not only not fun, but a disaster. 00:51:53 And one of the reasons they're both not fun and a disaster is that they have a mission statement. They already know where they're going and there's some abstracted map-like idea that everyone thinks that they're cohering to. But then it turns out that everyone actually interpreted that differently and the way they interpreted it yesterday changed. And so that thing becomes 00:52:16 the territory on which you are in polarity with each other and not the thing that you agree about. The thing you fight about most is the mission statement.
- for: ecological civilization
- Nora Bateson
- Nora shares about the many diverse intentional communities she has lived in and found them all dysfunctional.
- The problem is that they have a mission statement, a purpose.
- The perspectival knowing is different for each person.
- How do you nurture unintentional community?
- support unintentional possibility
- top-down instructional is an unecological process
- The question "who can you be when you are with me?" is preferred over "what should you be?"
- Nora Bateson
- for: ecological civilization
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- May 2023
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www.standard.co.uk www.standard.co.uk
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They work, they go to the pub and while they share cooking duties they’re not against ordering a takeaway on a Friday night. ‘I would argue that quite often intentional communities reflect the period in which they were formed,’ explains Kirsten Stevens-Wood, a senior lecturer at Cardiff Metropolitan University and lead for the Intentional Communities Research Group.
Interesting person to contact Kirsten Stevens-Wood
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- May 2021
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www.nytimes.com www.nytimes.com
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According to a study published last year by researchers at the University of California San Diego, more than three-quarters of American adults now experience moderate to high levels of loneliness — rates that have more than doubled over the last 50 years. Despite rising housing costs across the country, more Americans are living alone today than ever before. As Boone Wheeler, a 33-year-old member of East Wind, told me, “There are literal health consequences to loneliness: Your quality of life goes down due to lack of community — you will die sooner.”
Loneliness is growing and communities address that ...
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IN 2017 BJORN GRINDE and Ranghild Bang Nes, researchers with the Norwegian Institute of Public Health, co-authored a paper on the quality of life among North Americans living in intentional communities. Along with David Sloan Wilson, director of the evolutionary studies program at Binghamton University, and Ian MacDonald, a graduate assistant, they contacted more than 1,000 people living in 174 communities across the U.S. and Canada and asked them to rate their happiness level on the Satisfaction With Life Scale (SWLS), a globally recognized measurement tool. They compared these results to a widely cited 2008 study by the psychologists William Pavot and Ed Diener, which surveyed past studies that used the scale to analyze 31 disparate populations — including Dutch adults, French-Canadian university students and the Inuit of northern Greenland — and discovered that members of intentional communities scored higher than 30 of the 31 groups. Living in an intentional community, the authors concluded, “appears to offer a life less in discord with the nature of being human compared to mainstream society.” They then hypothesized why that might be: “One, social connections; two, sense of meaning; and three, closeness to nature.”
People in intentional communities are happier according to a 2017 study.
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