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  1. Aug 2023
      • for: intentional community, intentional communities, eco-community, ecocommunity
      • title
        • Utopia Inc Most utopian communities are, like most start-ups, short-lived. What makes the difference between failure and success?
    1. Founded by the psychoanalyst and sociologist Dieter Duhm in Germany in 1978 and re-founded in Portugal in 1995, Tamera aspired to dissolve the trauma of human relationships. Duhm, heavily influenced by Marxism and psychoanalysis, came to see material emancipation and interpersonal transformation as part of the same project.
      • for: ecocommunity, eco-community, intentional community, Dieter Duhm, Tamera, psychoanalyst -noteworthy
        • Tamera ecocommunity was founded by psychoanalyst Dieter Duhm
    1. these kinds of issues are systemic and intrinsic and maybe even foundational to intentional communities.
      • for: intentional community, intentional communities, intentional communities - failure
      • claim
        • intentional communities have a fatal flaw, an intrinsic Achilles Heel
    2. 478 intentional communities since the 1820s have now shrunk to 112 worldwide in the last 30 years)
      • for: intentional community, intentional communities, intentional communities - failure, stats, stats - intentional communities
      • stats
        • of 478 intentional communities since the 1820s,
        • 112 exist worldwide in the last 30 years (1988 - 2018
      • for: intentional community, intentional communities, intentional communities - failure, stats, stats - intentional communities
      • stats
        • of 478 intentional communities since the 1820s,
        • 112 exist worldwide in the last 30 years (1988 - 2018
    1. how do you how do you think about what that community looks like and how you communicate that because in many senses you could say obviously you're hoping to build utopia 00:09:30 not dystopia right but but utopia and dystopia are different things with different people right and you could start out on this journey with uh with everyone saying we're going 00:09:42 to go to here point point a and then actually they decide their life changes they have a family or whatever they want to go over here and they put a lot of time into this or and equally point a could actually end up not looking like what they want to to be 00:09:55 part of how are you managing that journey for the people as part of the path
      • for: intentional community, intentional communities, DAO community, decentralized cities, Jonathan Hillis, Nora Bateson, intentional communities - failure
      • comment
        • this is a critical question
        • unfortunately, many people have tried living in intentional communities over many decades and the success rate is not high
        • listen to what Nora Bateson has to say about her experience of living in idealistic intentional communities and why they fail

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      https://hyp.is/ISC75i5JEe6lgW93D0Ye_A/docdrop.org/video/GE39xfNRRyw/

      • for: decentralized cities, DAO city, intentional community, intentional communities
      • Description
        • Jonathan Hillis is interviewed about his decentralized cities project
    1. I   grew up at Esalen and all these crazy new age-ey  sort of places, and I can tell you that I have   00:54:38 seen every flavor of self-help and personal  development that you could shake a stick at.   And none of them work. They all breed assholes.  I mean, I'm sorry, but if you're an asshole,   there's no way around it. Nothing's going to fix  you. And if you're not an asshole, then everything   is going to make you less of an asshole. So the reason that's important is that there's   00:55:02 a lot of pressure on how people should live, how  they should think, how they should be, how they   should feel. And this top-down instructional of  telling people how to live, think and feel is,   I think, a completely un-ecological process that  is interrupting the possibilities
      • for: intentional community, intentional communities,
    2. I can tell you that   my experience is that intentional communities  are not only not fun, but a disaster.   00:51:53 And one of the reasons they're both not fun and  a disaster is that they have a mission statement.   They already know where they're going and there's  some abstracted map-like idea that everyone thinks   that they're cohering to. But then it turns  out that everyone actually interpreted that   differently and the way they interpreted it  yesterday changed. And so that thing becomes   00:52:16 the territory on which you are in polarity with  each other and not the thing that you agree about.   The thing you fight about most is the mission  statement.
      • for: ecological civilization
        • Nora Bateson
          • Nora shares about the many diverse intentional communities she has lived in and found them all dysfunctional.
          • The problem is that they have a mission statement, a purpose.
          • The perspectival knowing is different for each person.
          • How do you nurture unintentional community?
          • support unintentional possibility
          • top-down instructional is an unecological process
          • The question "who can you be when you are with me?" is preferred over "what should you be?"