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we know from previous large transitions in history that you never change the world by having everyone on board. You change the world by having large enough minorities that can tip quite inert majority to move in the right direction
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quote - social tipping points - Johan Rockstrom - (see below) - We know from previous large transitions in history that - You never change the world by having everyone on board.. - You change the world by having large enough minorities<br /> - that can tip quite inert majority to move in the right direction. - When you look at the world of sustainability. - in many societies in the world, we are actually a double digit penetration - on sustainable solutions, - on people's awareness, - on willingness to even politically vote for green or, sustainable options. - So we're very close to that positive tipping point as well. - and that's another reason why it's not the moment to back down. - Now is the moment to just increase momentum.
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So, not only is it on our generation's watch that everything has occurred, it's on our generation's watch that we will determine the future. So, so it's, in our hands. to now determine the future for humanity on earth. So yes, it's an intergenerational justice, fundamentally.
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quote - Our generation caused the problem and must solve it - Johan Rockstrom - (see below) - So, not only is it on our generation's watch that everything has occurred, - it's on our generation's watch that we will determine the future. - So it's in our hands to now determine the future for humanity on earth. So yes, it's intergenerational justice, fundamentally.
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often I get the question, what should we do? And they expect me to talk about um, mobility and, um how to reduce flying and all forms of consumer choices. And they get surprised when I say that the number one issue is talk to your friends.
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- The advice I give to all my students, they are, often I get the question, what should we do?
- And they expect me to talk about
- mobility
- how to reduce flying and
- all forms of consumer choices.
- And they get surprised when I say that
- the number one issue is talk to your friends.
- Talk to your friends. Get the dialogue going.
- Speak to your, parents,
- your friends anytime you have a chance.
- Talk about the planet,
- Talk about 1. 5.
- If you go out to the street here in Potsdam, nobody will know what you're talking about if you say 1.5 is the most important number we have in the world today.
- So I think it's really important to keep the buzz going. We need a momentum here.
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we have to challenge the world to understand that we are in this generation, Us, in charge today, sitting in the cockpit of planet Earth, putting the entire stability of the planet at risk in this generation.
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quote - we are in the cockpit of planet earth - Johan Rockstrom - (see below)
- We have to challenge the world to understand that we are in this generation, us, in charge today, sitting in the cockpit of planet earth,
- putting the entire stability of the planet at risk in this generation
- We have to challenge the world to understand that we are in this generation, us, in charge today, sitting in the cockpit of planet earth,
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I don't think we have scientifically any reason to hesitate at all to say, not only do we have a climate crisis, we are in a planetary emergency.
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quote - planetary emergency - Johan Rockstrom - (see below) - Emergencies is when you have<br /> - unacceptable risks and - running out of time. - That's a combination: - Unacceptable risk and - time is running out. - Emergency means time is short. That's what is the definition of an emergency.
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what makes me doubly frustrated is that not only do we have all this evidence of, you know, potentially unmanageable risks. But we also have so much evidence that solving them is not a sacrifice.
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even if we were successful in phasing out fossil fuels, we would still fail. on the climate boundary. We would still breach the 1. 5 degree Celsius boundary if we do not come back into the safe space on the biosphere boundaries. Because biodiversity, freshwater, land, and nutrients will determine the ability of the planet to buffer
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this transition phase is like a gauntlet. It's very jumpy, it's very turbulent, you have winners and losers
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we need to make the transition acceptable and attractive for the vast majority of citizens, and the only way to do that, is to make the changes easy to adopt. This requires strong engagement with society at large, and policies that make sustainable life choices not only easier, but also cheaper and more attractive. Or, put it the other way around, it must be more expensive to destroy the planet or the health of our fellow citizens".
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- we need to make the transition acceptable and attractive for the vast majority of citizens, and the only way to do that, is to make the changes easy to adopt. This requires strong engagement with society at large, and policies that make sustainable life choices not only easier, but also cheaper and more attractive. Or, put it the other way around, it must be more expensive to destroy the planet or the health of our fellow citizens".
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We need to trigger exponential change across sectors and geographies by phasing out fossil fuels while taking advantage of positive social and economic tipping points.
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- We need to trigger exponential change across sectors and geographies by phasing out fossil fuels while taking advantage of positive social and economic tipping points.
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now we are facing a high risk of overshooting 1.5°C - at best - for several decades. Currently, we must admit that we do not know what the consequences are of such an overshoot, i.e., we do not know how long time the big tipping point systems - like the Gulf Stream or the Coral Reef systems, can cope with high risk temperatures above 1.5°C.
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- now we are facing a high risk of overshooting 1.5°C - at best - for several decades. Currently, we must admit that we do not know what the consequences are of such an overshoot, i.e., we do not know how long time the big tipping point systems - like the Gulf Stream or the Coral Reef systems, can cope with high risk temperatures above 1.5°C.
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All stakeholders in the world must now act according to the agreed Cop28 output, and deliver on the CopP28 Global Stocktake Agreement, which means rapidly transitioning away from oil, coal and gas, aiming at more than 40% reductions by 2030
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- All stakeholders in the world must now act according to the agreed Cop28 output, and deliver on the CopP28 Global Stocktake Agreement,
- which means rapidly transitioning away from oil, coal and gas, aiming at more than 40% reductions by 2030
- All stakeholders in the world must now act according to the agreed Cop28 output, and deliver on the CopP28 Global Stocktake Agreement,
- Date: Dec 31, 2023
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It is a major mistake in the current climate action debates, when big actors with interests in the oil, gas, and coal industry, use investments in nature based solutions or technologies for carbon dioxide removal (CDR), as “offsets” for the inability to phase out fossil-fuels. This will not work. Science is clear on this point – we need to phase out fossil-fuels AND restore nature to secure carbon sinks in soils and forests, AND to invest in CDR technologies. Additionality is the word of the day, not substitution.
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- It is a major mistake in the current climate action debates,
- when big actors with interests in the oil, gas, and coal industry,
- use investments in
- nature based solutions or
- technologies for carbon dioxide removal (CDR),
- as “offsets” for the inability to phase out fossil-fuels.
- This will not work. Science is clear on this point
- We need to
- phase out fossil-fuels AND
- restore nature to secure carbon sinks in soils and forests, AND
- to invest in CDR technologies.
- Additionality is the word of the day, not substitution.
- It is a major mistake in the current climate action debates,
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We cannot continue with double standards on fossil-fuels and renewable energy, or as a majority of countries are doing today – continue to sit on the fence, with green rhetoric but grey actions, which adds to the perception of widespread greenwashing.
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- We cannot continue with double standards on fossil-fuels and renewable energy,
- or as a majority of countries are doing today –
- continue to sit on the fence, with green rhetoric but grey actions,
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Our choice to fail over the last 30 years has brought us to this position. And a way out of that, a way out of the Marshall Plan, is to say we can have these negative emissions 00:34:42 I think we need to say that, okay that's one way out of it – if they work. Another way out of it is the Marshall Plan. And so we need to open that that dialogue up. but we've... in effect, I think the IAMs have closed that dialogue,. Which is one of the reasons, going back to... It would be interesting to see other parts of the world looking at this, because, I would have a guess, when we say 'that's not feasible', many people elsewhere in the world are saying 'well of course it's feasible, we've been doing... we've been living like that for years!'
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- Our choice to fail over the last 30 years has brought us to this position.
- And a way out of that, a way out of the Marshall Plan, is to say we can have these negative emissions
- I think we need to say that, okay that's one way out of it – if they work.
- Another way out of it is the Marshall Plan.
- And so we need to open that that dialogue up. but we've... in effect, I think the IAMs have closed that dialogue,.
- Which is one of the reasons, going back to... It would be interesting to see other parts of the world looking at this, because, I would have a guess,
- when we say 'that's not feasible', many people elsewhere in the world are saying 'well of course it's feasible, we've been doing... we've been living like that for years!'
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- In rebuttal to Johan's perspective on Negative Emissions Technologies (NETs),
- Kevin is addressing the issue of perspectival knowing, and
- its implications on what solutions we entertain as a global society.
- The example he cites is Negative Emissions Technologies (NETs) illustrates two major perspectives:
- Johan includes NETs as he see's that without them, the transition goes from manageable to unmanageable
- Kevin questions the inclusion of the NETs as potentially shutting down discussion about what Johan would consider an unmanageable situation
- Kevin brings up a valid point for inclusion of other voices, especially those indigenous ones who are still institutionally marginalized not only in economic and cultural spaces, but also academic and intellectual ones.
- The decolonization of academia takes on a concrete form here. Both the global and local south have lived under severe economic repression for centuries. Anderson's contention is that making do with less is something that billions of people have had to contend with for centuries as a social norm forced upon them by colonialist then post colonialist institutions.
- Inclusivity of a greater diversity of voices does play an important role in shaping the future direction of humanity.
- We should be having an open discussion about a Marshall plan and should not be afraid to go there.
- We had it in WWII, which, while more direct threat, is not as great as the threat of climate change on all life on earth in a slightly greater time scale.
- The global and local south has a lot to teach the global and local north. For this great transition of humanity to occur likely simultaneously requires
- radical amounts of resource transfer from the global / local north to the global / local south,and
- radical degrowth
- In rebuttal to Johan's perspective on Negative Emissions Technologies (NETs),
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we're increasing emissions today between 1 and 2% per year. Now, to reduce emissions even in the global model runs we have, with optimistic I mean, overly optimistic negative emission technologies – assume mitigation pathways, as you know, between 5 and 7% per year. So that is three times revolution pace, at the current modeling runs. 00:33:47 If you take away negative emission technologies, you would exceed 10% very rapidly. You would be more the 10 to 15%. I would call that... That's not revolution, that is a complete disruption of the global economy. It's like a pace that is beyond... I mean then you need to bulldoze down coal-fired plants, basically. You would be in a complete global Marshall Plan. It's a war zone agenda.
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- We're increasing emissions today between 1 and 2% per year.
- Now, to reduce emissions even in the global model runs we have, with optimistic I mean, overly optimistic negative emission technologies – assume mitigation pathways, as you know, between 5 and 7% per year.
- So that is three times revolution pace, at the current modeling runs.
- If you take away negative emission technologies, you would exceed 10% very rapidly.
- You would be more the 10 to 15%.
- I would call that... That's not revolution, that is a complete disruption of the global economy.
- It's like a pace that is beyond... I mean then you need to bulldoze down coal-fired plants, basically.
- You would be in a complete global Marshall Plan. It's a war zone agenda.
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in a normal distribution, from over here you have the denialists and over here you have the environmental activists. But in between you have a lot of different types of people. And the majority are actually – we know this from opinion polls – they are very supportive of science. They're very supportive of and concerned about climate change. They want climate action. It's just that they live their normal lives, they have many preoccupations in life. 01:01:44 They have their children, their health, their school, their financing, their incomes. You know, many, many things to be worried about. But that's the question: how do we get this majority, the silent majority, to join us? And I don't think that the way to make them join us is to scare them. And I don't think the way to join is to fight with the denialists. I think the way to join... to make them join... is to show that this pathway can get a better life.
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- In a normal distribution,
- from over here you have the denialists and
- over here you have the environmental activists.
- But in between you have a lot of different types of people.
- And the majority are actually
- we know this from opinion polls
- very supportive of science.
- They're very supportive of and concerned about climate change.
- They want climate action.
- It's just that they live their normal lives, they have many preoccupations in life.They have
- children,
- health,
- school,
- financing,
- incomes.
- You know, many, many things to be worried about.
- But that's the question:
- how do we get this majority, the silent majority, to join us?
- I don't think that the way to make them join us is to
- scare them and
- fight with the denialists.
- I think the way to make them join is to show that this pathway can get a better life.
- In a normal distribution,
- author: Johan Rockstrom
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- in other words
- the silent majority does not yet hold climate change activism to be sufficiently high on their list of priorities yet to warrant the necessary scale of action
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we have a crisis 00:49:16 And things have to change at the global level so fast that we need to correct big system failures at a very large scale. And I'm convinced that that can only be done top-down not bottom-up.
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- we have a crisis and things have to change at the global level so fast that we need to correct big system failures at a very large scale. And I'm convinced that that can only be done top-down not bottom-up.
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- date: Sept., 2023
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