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  1. Oct 2015
    1. Anthropologists usefully define a tool as an artifact used to make other artifact

      vs

      "technical objects are always embedded within larger networks of technical ensembles, including geographic, social, technological, political, and economic forces."

    2. technical objects are always on the move toward new configurations, new milieu, and new kinds of techni­cal ensembles

      Companies like apple release the iPhone 4, for example, when they're almost done creating the iphone 6 (or a further generation away), so this is a good point

    3. are catalyzing a shift in the technological unconscious, that is, the actions, expectations, and anticipations that have become so habitual they are “automatized,” sinking below conscious awareness while still being in­tegrated into bodily routines carried on without conscious awareness.

      Hayle is saying that our attention is not only fleeting, but the very expectation that it is fleeting is changing society as well

    4. he contemporary changes in mechanisms of attention are conveyed not through changes in the DNA but rather through epigenetic (i.e., environmental) changes. The relation between epigenetic and genetic changes has been a rich field of research in recent decades, resulting in a much more nuanced (and accurate) picture of biological adaptations than was previously understood, when the central dogma had all adaptations occurring through genetic processes

      I spent a lot of time in my bio class in high school looking at epigenetic and we talked about the effects of how external factors change our biology. We discussed in length about how computers has caused our minds to actually be sharper at detecting things and how sometimes hangs will grow in a weird way in order to help one hold a phone.

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    1. over a wide range of data-gathering instruments the results are consistent: people read less print, and they read print less well.

      I can see this as being true because online reading leads to instant gratification and information whereas you usually have to concentrate more on reading a printed article etc.

    2. Young people, who vote with their feet in college, are marching in another direction—the digital direction.

      The best way for change to be noticed is through action, not through words, and this can be seen very well through internet traffic.

    3. With linear reading, by contrast, the cognitive load is at a minimum, precisely because eye movements are more routine and fewer decisions need to be made about how to read the material and in what order. Hence the transfer to long-term memory happens more efficiently, especially when readers reread passages and pause to reflect on them as they go along.

      but there is linear reading within websites

    4. w odd a r^ e that the most valuable thing English ever had to offer was the very thing t o made us a discipline, t o transformed us from cultured gentlemen into a profession

      not the fact that it allows us to communicate?

    5. makes no apology for linking the decline of reading skills directly to a decrease in print reading, issuing a stinging indictment to teachers, professors, and other mentors who think digital reading might encourage skills of its own

      but what is the difference between reading words on paper than words online?

    6. Worse, reading skills (as measured by the ability to identify themes, draw inferences, etc.) have been declining in junior high, high school, college, and even graduate schools for the same period.

      but is this just simply amount? Because this could be due to our population growth.

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    1. research indicates that the small habitual actions associated with web interactions—clicking the mouse, moving a cursor, etc.—may be extraordinarily effective in retraining (or more accurately, repurposing) our neural circuitry, so that the changes are not only psychological but physical as well

      This relates to the last reading where Carr talked about the changes to our brains that occur when we use the internet too much. Also, this article kind of talks about the physical changes as well: http://www.theguardian.com/society/2011/may/21/children-weaker-computers-replace-activity

    2. Without abandoning print literacy. Comparative Media Studies enriches it through judicious comparison with other media, so that print is no longer the default mode into which one falls without much thought about alternatives but rather an informed choice made with full awareness of its possibilities and limitations.

      Because we have more options now than reading print, we can see the advantages of using mediums besides it and when it's more beneficial to use print.

    3. Surely there must be a better way. .Needed are approaches that can lo­cate digital work within print traditions, and print traditions within dig­ital media, without obscuring or failing to account for the differences between them. One such approach is advocated here: it goes by the name of Comparative Media Studies.^ As a concept, Comparative Media Studies has long inhabited the humanities, including comparisons of manuscript and print cultures, oral versus literate cultures, papyri versus vellum, immo­bile type versus moveable type, letterpress versus offset printing, etc. These fields have tended to exist at the margins of literary culture, of interest to specialists but (with significant exceptions) rarely sweeping the humanities as a whole. Moreover, they have occupied separate niches without overall theoretical and conceptual frameworks within which Comparative Media Studies might evolve.
    4. Another way is through the concept of technogenesis, the idea that hu­mans and technics have coevolved together.

      Human ability evolve with technology because technology begets more technology.

    5. Constructing a database also makes it possible for different scholars (or teams of scholars) to create different front-ends for the same data, thus encouraging collaboration in data collection, storing, and analysis.

      Ease of access to information always encourages developing new information faster.

    6. Such feelings, which are widespread,^ constitute nothing less than a change in worldview

      People have integrated new media into their lives so much that when it's removed they feel distressed. This is the same as any sudden change as it fundamentally removes what we are used too.

    7. Students read and write print texts in the classroom and consume and create digital texts^of their own on screens (with computers, iPhones, tablets, etc.), but there is little transfer from leisure activities to classroom instruction or vice versa

      there is this difference between writing a school paper and typing a text message.

    1. As the number of links increased, comprehension declined, as measured by writing a summary and completing a multiple-choice test. Si

      I think this is why Wikipedia is so popular, all the general information in one link

    1. Hyper reading, which includes skimming, scanning, fragmenting, and juxtaposing texts, is a strategic response to an information-intensive envi­ronment, aiming to conserve attention by quickly identifying relevant infor­mation, so that only relatively few portions of a given text are actually read.

      I did not even know my brain took in so much when I skimmed, but according to her this is an actual brain function

    2. widespread,^ constitute nothing less than a change in worldview.Moreover, research indicates that the small habitual actions associated with web interactions—clicking the mouse, moving a cursor, etc.—may be extraordinarily effective in retraining (or more accurately, repurposing) our neural circuitry, so that the changes are not only psychological but physical as well

      I never figured that the physical nature of using a computer actually benefits memory in anyway at all. This is her first point I find distinctly different from others

    1. Concentration can be had, but for ·most of us it is only by setting oneself against the things that rourinely destroy it.

      I definitely agree with this idea of having to set oneself against the things that destroy concentration. I believe it is becoming more difficult for younger generations to concentrate.

    2. Our brains have become particularly adapted to creating coherent, gap-free sto-ries ....

      This is surprising considering how much the internet brings about a “gap” in my thinking. My attention span is definitely different because of the internet.

    3. eyes wide shut

      This implies a sort of idea that we don’t know where we’re going and we have no clue the direction of where things could go with the internet. This is a valid point of skepticism, but the other side isn’t really explored.

    4. Neuroscience is now squarely at the center of any discussion of thinking or memory.

      I never realized that neuroscience and memory was in the discussion when talking about computing, but it makes sense that it is since the brain is one huge biological computer.

    5. The Shallows: What the Internet Is Doing to Our Brains.

      Fun fact: I read this book. It sounds more interesting than it actually was. I was disappointed because I wanted more on the neuroscience of it but the main focus was the technology side because you can only say so many times and in so many ways that the internet is making our memory and attention span worse.

    6. that our inner exertions literally have the power to change us that thoroughly. It is not just that we, are what we think; we are how, with what tools, we think.

      I believe this. If you dedicate as much time as the piano players were to imagining that your hands are repeating the same notes over and over, you're basically creating muscle memory without the physical parts.

    7. Maybe the screen was reconditioning him

      This would make sense when thinking of pavlov. The more we expect the information to be there, the more we'll just look it up every time we need to know it. The computer acts as an external memory

    8. Is coming into human consciousness also a coming into narrative-is it part of the nature of human consciousness to seek and create narrative, which is to say meaning?

      well a narrative can be first person so yes?

    9. Our brains have become particularly adapted to creating coherent, gap-free sto-ries .... 1his propensity for narrative creation is part of what pre-disposes humans to religious thought.

      did they not do this before though with spoken stories and books?

    10. Think of all that we can explore, think of the amazing lateral speeds of which we are now capable, the wealth of other kinds of information (visual, spoken, musical

      but people still have passion for these so I feel they will never die

    11. As it follows an electronic-as opposed to mechanical-paradigm, this transformation is dramatically more accelerated and more psychologically formative than any previous technological transformation we have gone through as a species. The overwhelming difference is that where formerly we could be said to interact with various systems------be those of commerce, law, politics, scholarship-now those systems are, in effect, merging into one, an unwieldy gargantuan unity that runs all its parts on a code of ls and Os.

      im confused why he is scared of this though

    12. Our us.e of the Internet involves many paradoxes, but the one that promises to have the greatest long-term influence over how we think is this one: the Net seizes our attention only to scatter it."

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    1. We might think in terms of a circuit-board model, picturing ourselves as the contact points.

      I think that this circuit board model is a bleak outlook on humanity and i disagree with the notion that we are becoming as automated as the machines we create. This can be seen through any creative field.

    2. Language will grow increasingly iropoverished through a series of vicious cycles.

      I agree with this notion that language is forever growing more and more simple, but I’m not sure if technology is to blame or simply our removal from the archaic forms of the language. Moreover, I’m not sure if its a bad thing or not.

    3. If electronic media are the one thing that the young are at ease with, why not exploit the fact?

      I disagree with this notion that companies looking to bring technology into classrooms are trying to exploit the children by indoctrinating them with he technology they are comfortable with. Instead, I simply believe that technology is a useful educational tool that companies design for students.

    4. The electronic media, while conspicuous in gadgetry, are very nearly invisible in their functioning. They have slipped deeply and irrevocably into our midst, creating sluices and circulating through them.

      not referencing any machine as a whole, but all the parts that make it up

    5. Who can blame the students? Everything they meet with in the world around them gives the signal: That was then, and electronic communications are now.

      It's funny that even today, with all the technology that has improved education, students are still not able to focus. Even worse, we get distracted at very inconvenient times.

    6. But certainly the idea of what it means to be a person liv-ing a life will be much changed.

      i disagree. Living a life will be the same but just with more tech involved. I am confused exactly what he means by this.

    7. Print also posits a time axis; the turning of pages, not to mention the vertical descent down the page, is a forward-moving succession, with earlier contents at every point serving as a ground for what follows. Moreover, the printed material is static-it is the reader, not the book, that moves forward.

      confused what he is trying to say

    8. The printed word is part of a vestigial order that we are moving away from-by choice and by societal compulsion.

      but what is the difference between a written word to it being typed. It gives the same message.

    1. And what will happen when educators find that not very many of the old materials will "play"-that is, capture student enthusiasm?

      Text students read wil always change overtime. Students will always read some text that stand the test of time (Like Shakespear, Salinger, ect.) and new or newly discovered text that they can relate too.

    2. that our educational systems are in decline; that our students are less and less able to read and comprehend their required texts, and that their aptitude scores have leveled off well below those of previous gener-ations. T

      Language always evolves overtime, and people brains just aren't as accustomed to seeing older styles of writing. This is what makes reading older text harder, people need to work more since it's very different from what they are used too. People aren't simply getting dumber.

    1. 'hd if you still think God made us," writes Greenberg, "there's a neurochemical reason for that too." He quotes writer David Linden, author of The Acddental Mind: How Brain Evolution Has Given Jls Love, Memory, Dreams, and God· "Our brains have be-come particularly adapted to creating coherent, gap-free stories .... This propensity for narrative creation is part of what predisposes humans to religious thought."

      isn't science "filling in the gap" searching to make sense of our existence as well? A bit bias I would say.

    2. You Are What You Click More than twenty years ago I published a book called The Gutenberg Elegies: The Fate of Reading in an Electronic Age. It was my speculative-but also, I admit, somewhat alarmed-response to what felt like the rash ascendancy of all things digital.

      His essay became outdated so quickly as even he did not realize how fast technology could and would advance

    1. Daily news-papers, with their long columns of print, struggle against declining sales. Fewer and fewer people under the age of fifty read them; comput-ers will soon make packaged information a custom product. But if the printed sheet is heading for obsolescence, people are tuning in to the signals. The screen is where the information and entertainment wars will be fought.

      I do really see his point, and the new generation when we become teachers, the internet will seem to be the more used resource in my prediction, however, I do not believe we are there yet.

    2. are now. Do I exaggerate? If all this is the case, why haven't we heard more about it? Why hasn't somebody stepped forward with a bow tie and a pointer stick to explain what is going on?

      I often feel the same when something happens in the world wether it be a news story, or an event that happened in sports, I never know if it is a historical event or not. I often question "will this be remembered in 20,40,60,100 years. Will it be written in the textbooks? And there is no man to tell us if it will. I guess it is up to us.

    3. The printed word is part of a vestigial order that we are moving away from-by choice and by societal compulsion.

      ironic that he is writing how the printed word is dying however he is writing it on something with the printed word

  2. Sep 2015
  3. isites.harvard.edu isites.harvard.edu
    1. Historically, this sort of shift in authority accompanied the emergence and development of the informational genres. The progression is nicely marked in the shift from Webster (Noah) to Webster's (the publishing house in Springfield, Mass.) and finally to Webster's as a synonym for "the dictionary," a generic name that has in fact been in the public domain for a number of years.

      Evolution of media has brought a sort off dissonance between author and work

    2. Information, in short, is a strikingly bland substance."

      Information has to be factual; opinions are interesting but information is strictly based on facts. Unfortunately people mix the two up.

    3. information is able to perform the work it does precisely because it fuzzes the boundaries between several genetically distinct categories of experience. Ultimately, then, the question we want to ask is phenomenological rather than lexicographical; not, What does information mean?, but rather, How is the impression of "information" constituted out of certain practices of reading and the particular representations that support them?
    4. complement to the informational forms of print — a domain that privileges the personal, the private, and the subjective against the impersonal, the public, and the objective.

      i like the point he makes here--why not see the internet as complimenting printed works, rather than competing with it?

    5. When theorists talk about the power of the new media to make everyone an author, for example, or to provide everyone with universal access to potential audiences of millions of readers,

      This is a point that we've made several times in our class, so it's as if he is addressing us directly here

    6. and first of all the limit between the private, the secret (whether private or public) and the public or phenomenal.

      This is very relevant today with the notions of social media and the questions it raises such as privacy.

    7. First, for the notion of "publishing." To a certain extent, the particularities of the Web in this regard are purely quantitative. A signal virtue of electronic technologies is to remove the capital and institutional impediments to the production and circulation of documents.

      The key here for me is "circulation" because no matter the platform that the information is on, the importance of its reception depends on the circulation of the media,

    8. nd this way of talking rests on two assumptions. First, they assume a correlation between the size of a text (as measured in characters, bytes, column inches, or whatever) and the amount of content it conveys — a step that implies the commoditization of content that is central to the cultural role we ask information to play.

      The information that is being conveyed can be skewed by a misunderstanding of how the data is collected/

    9. But none of this should be taken as depreciating the cultural effects of electronic media.

      He is basically saying that even though printed books will remain, electronic media won't fall. To me, this is an important distinction but still hard to grasp.

    10. Separated from, or without the implication of, reference to a person informed: that which inheres in one of two or more alternative sequences, arrangements, etc., that produce different responses in something, and which is capable of being stored in, transferred by, and communicated to inanimate things.

      2nd Definition of Information

      used in art fields and fields like cybernetics and information theory

    11. Knowledge communicated concerning some particular fact, subject, or event; that of which one is apprised or told; intelligence, news. spec. contrasted with data.

      1st Definition of Information

      used in a particularistic sense (aka in the typical context we would normally use information in)

    12. information "...both covers and covers up much of what was referenced by the anthropological sense of 'culture.'" But even granting all this, it doesn't follow that we can simply drop the word information from our vocabularies in favor of literatures, culture, knowledge, or whatever other items it seems to be standing in for.
    13. the first sort of error is in seeing the future as being insufficiently like the present, and that is relatively easy to correct for; you just imagine the future furnished like the room you are in. Whereas the second sort of error involves seeing the future as insufficiently different from the present,

      So basically the first error is seeing the future too similarly the present and the second is not seeing it differently enough from the present

    14. This is one of the important ways in which information differs from knowledge, which always requires a knowing subject — an individual, a collectivity, or at the limit a text, which serves as a proxy for its author.
    15. "Objectivity" is a complex notion here. It refers, first, to a kind of perspectival objectivity, the impression that information gives us its content in the "view from nowhere," without reference to private states or privileged points of view. This perspective-neutrality is the feature of information that gives it a more-or-less uniform exchange value, so that a piece of information that I give you can in principle be as comprehensible or as useful to you as it is to me.
    16. hese claims to inclusiveness in turn permit us to attach a significance to exclusion — to an event that doesn't appearing in the newspaper, a word that doesn't appear in the dictionary, a historic site or restaurant that doesn't appearing in a travel guide, and so on. But of course this kind of claim is only possible when the boundaries of a document or building impose a manifest physical limit on the amount of material it can contain.
    17. he trope is crucial to the claims of enthusiasts of the technology that it will usher in a new and epochal discursive order. We have to believe, that is, that the substance that computers traffic in, "information" in the technical sense of the term, is the same sort of stuff that led to the Reformation and the French Revolution, whether or not contemporaries talked about it in those terms. But the fact is that the use of information that people have in mind when they talk about "the information age" or say that information brought about the Reformation is not

      What does he suggest about the importance of making these distinctions?

    18. Agre is certainly right, for example, to say that part of the work that information does for librarians is to flatten and obscure the subjective social topographies of content that are implicit when we speak of the holdings of a library in terms of "literatures."

      What feature of how the term "information" is Nunberg highlighting here?

    19. In this essay, I want to show that these metaphors play false to the truth; we are rather in the situation, as Paul Duguid puts it, of breaking the banks and hoping still to have the river.

      How do these analogies make Nunberg's point? What is the relationship between form and content that he is getting at?

    20. But the assumption implicit in that phrase — that the magnitude or breadth of someone's reputation is proportional to its farthest geographical extension — has no relevance in the electronic world, where it takes no greater investment of resources to make a text available to distant readers than to local ones.

      Why is this true?

    21. When theorists talk about the power of the new media to make everyone an author, for example, or to provide everyone with universal access to potential audiences of millions of readers, they invoke a notion of authorship and a model of access that is more appropriate to traditional print media than to electronic communication. What is an author, after all, if the new media no longer support the legal status or institutional privileges that have traditionally defined that role? And what real increase is there in the ability of the average citizen to affect public opinion if anyone who wants to gain the attention of a mass audience has to compete for attention with

      Does the concept of an "author" make sense in digital environments?

    22. For the present it's enough to observe that there is nothing in the economics of publishing as a whole or the body of practice surrounding the use of the printed book that militates for its disappearance, even over the long term.
    23. The second misapprehension is the opposite of the first. It comes from a failure to appreciate, not how durable some features of the material setting will turn out to be, but rather how contingent and mutable are some of the categories of social life.
    24. And here, for all the revolutionary talk of the enthusiasts, there is a persistent tendency to yield to the second kind of misapprehension that representations of the future are liable to, where we naturalize contingent features of the current order of things. Indeed, the revolutionary rhetoric of the enthusiasts makes them especially susceptible to this presupposition, because the goal of making the material advantages of the new media sound inviting and exciting requires us to assume a continuity of communicative needs and interests.

      It's very difficult for me to puzzle out any sort of meaning here....difficult concept and difficult language

    25. What is most telling to us now about the Popular Mechanics picture is its presupposition is that in the year 2000 the household cleaning will still be woman's work

      I love this--the focus is on technological progress rather than other, more important forms of progress (equality, etc.)

    1. When Vashti served away form the sunbeams with a cry, she behaved barbarically - she put out her hand to steady her. "How dare you!" exclaimed the passenger. "You forget yourself!" The woman was confused, and apologized for not having let her fall. People never touched one another. The custom had become obsolete, owing to the Machine.

      Caring for another's well-being, even in instinctive ways such as catching someone who falls, is rude. The Machine shuns all instinctive human behavior, going to show how the Machine strips its inhabitants of their humanity

    2. "Those mountains to the right - let me show you them." She pushed back a metal blind. The main chain of the Himalayas was revealed. "They were once called the Roof of the World, those mountains."

      The Himalayas

    3. Man, the flower of all flesh, the noblest of all creatures visible, man who had once made god in his image, and had mirrored his strength on the constellations, beautiful naked man was dying, strangled in the garments that he had woven

      Just a few passages before this, the inhabitants were calling for the death of men in order to avenge the machine--we need to not take our humanity for granted.

    4. It was robbed us of the sense of space and of the sense of touch, it has blurred every human relation and narrowed down love to a carnal act, it has paralysed our bodies and our wills, and now it compels us to worship it. The Machine develops - but not on our lies. The Machine proceeds - but not to our goal. We only exist as the blood corpuscles that course through its arteries, and if it could work without us, it would let us die.

      foreshadows the ending

    5. By these days it was a demerit to be muscular.

      I found this aspect similar to a direction today's society is headed in. Athleticism is definitely not as stressed as in previous generations.

    6. Man, the flower of all flesh, the noblest of all creatures visible, man who had once made god in his image, and had mirrored his strength on the constellations, beautiful naked man was dying, strangled in the garments that he had woven.

      Is the author trying to lay out the demise of man through technology or is the author trying to detail how fragile we are?

    7. As for Vashti, her life went peacefully forward until the final disaster. She made her room dark and slept; she awoke and made the room light. She lectured and attended lectures.

      Business as usual.

    8. The man in front dropped his Book - no great matter, but it disquieted them all. In the rooms, if the Book was dropped, the floor raised it mechanically

      Almost shocked them all but the Machine soothed them.

    9. for it was rumoured that Euthanasia, too, was out of order, and that pain had reappeared among men.

      With Vashti's comment that she wanted to be euthanised because she gave a bad lecture, it appears that euthanasia is a common want in the people, even if for mundane events. It is therefore, highly possible that this 'pain' Vashti speaks of is something we may not recognise as pain; it may be something mundane that the people controlled by The Machine have been provided with their whole lives, and thus feel they cannot love without.

    10. "I have seen them, spoken to them, loved them. They are hiding in the midst and the ferns until our civilization stops. Today they are the Homeless - tomorrow ------ "

      Is Kuno's encounter with these 'other people' explicitly mentioned before this moment in the story?

    11. The Mending Apparatus has treated us so well in the past that we all sympathize with it, and will wait patiently for its recovery. In its own good time it will resume its duties

      Another example of how blame is not placed upon The Machine when its failings become apparent

    12. "Some one of meddling with the Machine---" they began. "Some one is trying to make himself king, to reintroduce the personal element." "Punish that man with Homelessness."

      The people of this world have become so dependent on The Machine that they cannot accept the entity they accept as their leader may possibly be failing them.

    13. re-establishment of religion

      Religion is re-established, however not the in sense we understand today; religious affiliation with The Machine is what is emphasised to the people. Perhaps this was an attempt to make the people so dependent on The Machine they wouldn't realise the collapse of their world.

    14. "Beware of first- hand ideas!" exclaimed one of the most advanced of them. "First-hand ideas do not really exist.

      The Machine and those loyal to it shun the idea of independent thought throughout the story. Creating a collective group focussed around the same ideas as opposed to allowing for opinion and discussion leaves the people dependent on The Machine for guidance and support in their everyday lives.

    15. "Of course," said a famous lecturer - he of the French Revolution, who gilded each new decay with splendour - "of course we shall not press our complaints now

      This is super ironic because the French Revolution was caused by the aristocrats becoming spoiled with luxury and not acknowledging the warning signs of their downfall--just as the people in the Machine have become spoiled and refuse to change their ways.

    16. Wessex

      Wessex was an Anglo Saxon kingdom in the UK up until around the 10th century. While the name is used in some contexts today, the kingdom no longer exists. What was the purpose of bringing this name up again in what we assume to be a futuristic setting?

    17. We created the Machine, to do our will, but we cannot make it do our will now.

      Recently an AI was noted saying that it would keep a "human zoo"... I don't know about you but these two lines are freaking me out.

    18. so did recapture the meaning of “Near” and “Far”. “Near” is a place to which I can get quickly on my feet, not a place to which the train or the air-ship will take me quickly. “Far” is a place to which I cannot get quickly on my feet;

      our understanding of near is by way way of car or plane and not by walking anymore

    19. The phrase still conveyed nothing. If Eternity was stopping it would of course be set going shortly.

      Linking the machine stopping to everything ended. Incomprehensible because no human can understand what life would be like without the machine.

    20. How can I possibly explain this? It was naked, humanity seemed naked, and all these tubes and buttons and machineries neither came into the world with us, nor will they follow us out, nor do they matter supremely while we are here.

      Forster is showing the difference between man and machine here comparing life cycles of machines. Also shows humans insight on it in the story.

    21. "You know that we have lost the sense of space. We say “space is annihilated”, but we have annihilated not space, but the sense thereof.

      Very similar to how the internet makes everything seem so close despite those same things being far away.

    22. They commune with humanity in dreams.

      Brings up an interesting difference between man and machine. The connection to earth would only be felt by humanity and not machine. Also, the fact that humanity can group with the earth is something uniquely human.

    23. But this is not for me, nor perhaps for my generation. I climbed with my respirator and my hygienic clothes and my dietetic tabloids! Better thus than not at all.

      Humanity is at such a stage that they cannot do anything without the help of man-made devices and technology. Technology is a lifeline.

    24. in its twilight our strong will suffer euthanasia, that the Machine may progress, that the Machine may progress, that the Machine may progress eternally.

      Machine valued over human life. People in this society are acting in the opposite manner of human and animal nature--killing off the strongest and letting the weakest survive.

    25. The victim is exposed to the air, which kills him.

      I was a bit confused about this...is it because their lungs/bodies are unaccustomed to the purer surface version or Oxygen (or the "real" Oxygen because I think they mentioned that the Oxygen underground is synthetic)?

    26. "The Machine," they exclaimed, "feeds us and clothes us and houses us; through it we speak to one another, through it we see one another, in it we have our being. The Machine is the friend of ideas and the enemy of superstition: the Machine is omnipotent, eternal; blessed is the Machine."

      sounds a lot like how someone would pray to God

    27. Your descendants will be even in a better position than you, for they will learn what you think I think, and yet another intermediate will be added to the chain. And in time" - his voice rose - "there will come a generation that had got beyond facts, beyond impressions, a generation absolutely colourless, a generation

      Foster predicts here that first hand accounts are worthless. I guess it sort of makes sense because of the belief that the first hand accounts can sometimes be bias but even then this gets a little far fetched...

    28. "Because I have seen her in the twilight - because she came to my help when I called - because she, too, was entangled by the worms, and, luckier than I, was killed by one of them piercing her throat."

      Okay is this supposed to be another human or what because later he talks about how he saw other humans and this part confused me...

    29. The Machine hums! Did you know that? Its hum penetrates our blood, and may even guide our thoughts.

      Reminded me of how the ac constantly hums in the background and then when it turns off it's total silence.

    30. The Machine hums! Did you know that? Its hum penetrates our blood, and may even guide our thoughts.

      Reminded me of how the ac constantly hums in the background and then when it turns off it's total silence.

    31. His was not a type that the Machine desired to hand on.

      The machine gets to decide what type of humans get to keep procreating instead of the humans deciding what kinds of machines should be created--role reversal

    32. I could not tell you such a thing through the Machine."

      This is still like how it's hard to tell someone very bad/ good news through the phone instead of in person. That nuance still hasn't changed in this world