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Reviewer #1 (Public review):
Summary:
The authors are trying to determine if SFN treatment results in dephosphorylation of TFEB, subsequent activation of autophagy-related genes, exocytosis of lysosomes, and reduction in lysosomal cholesterol levels in models of NPC disease.
Strengths:
(1) Clear evidence that SFN results in translocation of TFEB to the nucleus.
(2) In vivo data demonstrating that SFN can rescue Purkinje neuron number and weight in NPC1-/- animals.
Weaknesses:
(1) Lack of molecular details regarding how SFN results in dephosphorylation of TFEB leading to activation of the aforementioned pathways. Currently, datasets represent correlations.
(2) Based on the manuscript narrative, discussion, and data it is unclear exactly how steady-state cholesterol would change in models of NPC disease following SFN treatment. Yes, there is good evidence that lysosomal flux to (and presumably across) the plasma membrane increases with SFN. However, lysosomal biogenesis genes also seem to be increasing. Given that NPC inhibition, NPC1 knockout, or NPC1 disease mutations are constitutively present and the cell models of NPC disease contain lysosomes (even with SFN) how could a simple increase in lysosomal flux decrease cholesterol levels? It would seem important to quantify the number of lysosomes per cell in each condition to begin to disentangle differences in steady state number of lysosomes, number of new lysosomes, and number of lysosomes being exocytosed.
(3) Lack of evidence supporting the authors' premise that "SFN could be a good therapeutic candidate for neuropathology in NPC disease".
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Reviewer #2 (Public review):
Summary:
This study presents a valuable finding that the activation of TFEB by sulforaphane (SFN) could promote lysosomal exocytosis and biogenesis in NPC, suggesting a potential mechanism by SFN for the removal of cholesterol accumulation, which may contribute to the development of new therapeutic approaches for NPC treatment.
Strengths:
The cell-based assays are convincing, utilizing appropriate and validated methodologies to support the conclusion that SFN facilitates the removal of lysosomal cholesterol via TFEB activation.
Weaknesses:
(1) The in vivo experiments demonstrate the therapeutic potential of SFN for NPC. A clear dose-response analysis would further strengthen the proposed therapeutic mechanism of SFN. Additional data supporting the activation of TFEB by SFN for cholesterol clearance in vivo would strengthen the overall impact of the study
(2) In Figure 4, the authors demonstrate increased lysosomal exocytosis and biogenesis by SFN in NPC cells. Including a TFEB-KO/KD in this assay would provide additional validation of whether these effects are TFEB-dependent.
(3) For lysosomal pH measurement, the combination of pHrodo-dex and CF-dex enables ratiometric pH measurement. However, the pKa of pHrodo red-dex (according to Invitrogen) is ~6.8, while lysosomal pH is typically around 4.7. This discrepancy may account for the lack of observed lysosomal pH changes between WT and U18666A-treated cells. Notably, previous studies (PMID: 28742019) have reported an increase in lysosomal pH in U18666A-treated cells.
(4) The authors are also encouraged to perform colocalization studies between CF-dex and a lysosomal marker, as some researchers may be concerned that NPC1 deficiency could reduce or block the trafficking of dextran along endocytosis.
(5) In vivo data supporting the activation of TFEB by SFN for cholesterol clearance would significantly enhance the impact of the study. For example, measuring whole-animal or brain cholesterol levels would provide stronger evidence of SFN's therapeutic potential.
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Reviewer #3 (Public review):
Summary:
The authors demonstrate that activation of TFEB facilitates cholesterol clearance in cell models of Niemann-Pick type C (NPC). This is done through a variety of approaches including activation of TFEB by sulforaphane (SFN), a naturally occurring small-molecule TFEB agonist. SFN induces TFEB nuclear translocation and promotes lysosomal exocytosis. In an NPC mouse model, SFN dephosphorylates/activates TFEB in the brain and rescues the loss of Purkinje cells.
Strengths:
NPC is a severe disease and there is little in the way of treatment. The manuscript points towards some treatment options. However, the title, the title "Small-molecule activation of TFEB Alleviates Niemann-Pick Disease..." is far too strong and should be changed.
Weaknesses:
(1) The manuscript is extremely hard to read due to the writing; it needs careful editing for grammar and English.
(2) There are a number of important technical issues that need to be addressed.
(3) The TFEB influence on filipin staining in Figure 1A is somewhat subtle. In the mCherry alone panels there is a transfected cell with no filipin staining and the mCherry-TFEBS211A cells still show some filipin staining.
(4) Figure 1C is impressive for the upregulation of filipin with U18666A treatment. However, SFN is used at 15 microM. This must be hitting multiple pathways. Vauzour et al (PMID: 20166144) use SFN at 10 nM to 1microM. Other manuscripts use it in the low microM range. The authors should repeat at least some key experiments using SFN at a range of concentrations from perhaps 100 nM to 5 microM. The use of 15 microM throughout is an overall concern.
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Reviewer #1 (Public Review):
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The work from Petazzi et al. aimed at identifying novel factors supporting the differentiation of human hematopoietic progenitors from induced-pluripotent stem cells (iPSCs). The authors developed an inducible CRISPR-mediated activation strategy (iCRISPRa) to test the impact of newly identified candidate factors on the generation of hematopoietic progenitors in vitro. They first compared previously published transcriptomic data of iPSC-derived hemato-endothelial populations with cells isolated ex vivo from the aorta-gonad-mesonephros (AGM) region of the human embryo and they identified 9 transcription factors expressed in the aortic hemogenic endothelium that were poorly expressed in the in vitro differentiated cells. They then tested the activation of these candidate factors in an iPSC-based culture system supporting the differentiation of hematopoietic progenitors in vitro. They found that the IGF binding protein 2 (IGFBP2) was the most upregulated gene in arterial endothelium after activation and they demonstrated that IGFBP2 promotes the generation of functional hematopoietic progenitors in vitro.
Strengths:
The authors developed a very useful doxycycline-inducible system to activate the expression of specific candidate genes in human iPSC. This approach allows us to simultaneously test the impact of 9 different transcription factors on in vitro differentiation of hematopoietic cells, and the system appears to be very versatile and applicable to a broad variety of studies. Using this approach, the authors exhaustively demonstrated the role of IGFBP2 in promoting the generation of functional hematopoietic progenitors in vitro from iPSCs.
Weaknesses:
The authors performed a very thorough characterization of the system in proof-of-principle experiments activating a single transcription factor. However, when 9 independent factors were used, it is not always clear whether the observed results were the consequence of the simultaneous activation of all 9 TF or just a subset of them.
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Reviewer #3 (Public review):
Summary:
Machhua et al. in their work focused on unravelling the molecular mechanism of daptomycin binding and interaction with bacterial cell membranes. Daptomycin (Dap) is an acidic, cyclic lipopeptide composed of 13 amino acids, known for preferential binding to anionic lipids, particularly phosphatidylglycerol (PG), which are prevalent components in the membranes of Gram-positive bacteria. The process of binding and antimicrobial efficacy of Dap are significantly influenced by the ionic composition of the surrounding environment, especially the presence of Ca2+ ions. The authors underscore the presence of significant knowledge gaps in our understanding of daptomycin's mode of action. Several critical questions remain unanswered, including the basis for selective recognition and accumulation in membranes of Gram-positive strains, the specific role of Ca2+ ions in this process, and the mechanisms by which daptomycin binds to and inserts into the cell membrane.
Dap is intrinsically fluorescent due to its kynurenine residue (Kyn-13) and this property allows direct imaging of Dap binding to model cell membranes without the need of additional labeling. Taking advantage of this Dap autofluorescence, authors monitored the emission intensity of micelles, composed of varying DMPG content upon their exposure to Dap and compared it with the kinetics of fluorescence observed for zwitterionic DMPC and other negatively charged lipids such as cardiolipin (CA), POPA and POPS. The authors noted that the linear relationship between DMPG content and Dap fluorescence is strongly lipid-specific, as it was not observed for other anionic lipids. The manuscript sheds light on the specificity of Dap's interaction with CA and DMPG lipids. Through Ca2+ sequestration with EGTA, the authors demonstrated that the binding of Dap with CA is reversible, while its interaction with DMPG results in the irreversible insertion of Dap into the lipid membrane structure, caused by the significant conformational change of this lipopeptide. The formation of a stable DMPG-Dap complex was also verified in bacterial cells isolated from Gram-positive bacteria B. subtilis, where Dap exhibited a permanent binding to PG lipids.
Altogether, the authors endeavored to illuminate novel insights into the molecular basis of Dap binding, interaction, and the mechanism of insertion into bacterial cell membranes. Such understanding holds promise for the development of innovative strategies in combating drug resistance and the emerging of the so-called superbugs.
Strengths:
- The manuscript by Machhua et al. provides a comprehensive analysis of the Dap mechanism of binding and interaction with the membrane. It discusses various aspects of this, only apparently trivial interaction such as the importance of PG presence in the membrane, the impact of Ca2+ ions, and different mechanisms of Dap binding with other negatively charged lipids.<br /> - The authors focused not only on model membranes (micelles) but also extended their research to bacterial cell membranes obtained from B. subtilis<br /> - The research is not only a report of the experimental findings but tries to give potential hypotheses explaining the molecular mechanisms behind the observed results
Weaknesses:
- The authors overestimate their findings, stating that they propose a novel mechanism of Dap interaction with bacterial cell membranes. This research is the extension of the hypotheses that have already been reported.<br /> - The literature study and overall discussion about the mechanism of action of Ca2+ ions or conformational changes of daptomycin could be improved.
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Reviewer #1 (Public review):
Summary:
This work used a comprehensive dataset to compare the effects of species diversity and genetic diversity within each trophic level and across three trophic levels. The results stated that species diversity had negative effects on ecosystem functions, while genetic diversity had positive effects. Additionally, these effects were observed only within each trophic level and not across the three trophic levels studied. Although the effects of biodiversity, especially genetic diversity across multi-trophic levels, have been shown to be important, there are still very few empirical studies on this topic due to the complex relationships and difficulty in obtaining data. This study collected an excellent dataset to address this question, enhancing our understanding of genetic diversity effects in aquatic ecosystems.
Strengths:
The study collected an extensive dataset that includes species diversity of primary producers (riparian trees), primary consumers (macroinvertebrate shredders), and secondary consumers (fish). It also includes genetic diversity of the dominant species in each trophic level, biomass production, decomposition rates, and environmental data. The writing is logical and easy to follow.
Weaknesses:
The two main conclusions-(1) species diversity had negative effects on ecosystem functions, while genetic diversity had positive effects, and (2) these effects were observed only within each trophic level, not across the three levels-are overly generalized. Analysis of the raw data shows that species and genetic diversity have different effects depending on the ecosystem function. For example, neither affected invertebrate biomass, but species diversity positively influenced fish biomass, while genetic diversity had no effect. Furthermore, Table S2 reveals that only four effect sizes were significant (P < 0.05): one positive genetic effect, one negative genetic effect, and two negative species effects, with two effects within a trophic level and two across trophic levels. Additionally, using a P < 0.2 threshold to omit lines in the SEMs is uncommon and was not adequately justified. A more cautious interpretation of the results, with acknowledgment of the variability observed in the raw data, would strengthen the manuscript.
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Reviewer #1 (Public review):
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This manuscript reports the substrate-bound structure of SiaQM from F. nucleatum, which is the membrane component of a Neu5Ac-specific Tripartite ATP-dependent Periplasmic (TRAP) transporter. Until recently, there was no experimentally derived structural information regarding the membrane components of TRAP transporter, limiting our understanding of the transport mechanism. Since 2022, there have been 3 different studies reporting the structures of the membrane components of Neu5Ac-specific TRAP transporters. While it was possible to narrow down the binding site location by comparing the structures to proteins of the same fold, a structure with substrate bound has been missing. In this work, the authors report the Na+-bound state and the Na+ plus Neu5Ac state of FnSiaQM, revealing information regarding substrate coordination. In previous studies, 2 Na+ ion sites were identified. Here, the authors also tentatively assign a 3rd Na+ site. The authors reconstitute the transporter to assess the effects of mutating the binding site residues they identified in their structures. Of the 2 positions tested, only one of them appears to be critical to substrate binding.
Strengths:
The main strength of this work is the capture of the substrate bound state of SiaQM, which provides insight into an important part of the transport cycle.
Weaknesses:
The main weakness is the lack of experimental validation of the structural findings. The authors identified the Neu5Ac binding site, but only test 2 residues for their involvement in substrate interactions, which is quite limited. However, comparison with previous mutagenesis studies on homologues supports the location of the Neu5Ac binding site. The authors tentatively identified a 3rd Na+ binding site, which if true would be an impactful finding, but this site was not sufficiently experimentally tested for its contribution to Na+ dependent transport. This lack of experimental validation prevents the authors from unequivocally assigning this site as a Na+ binding site. However, the reporting of these new data is important as it will facilitate follow up studies by the authors or other researchers.
Comments on revisions:
Overall, the authors have done a good job of addressing the reviewers' comments. It's good to know that the authors are working on the characterisation of the potential metal binding site mutants - characterising just a few of these will provide much needed experimental support for this potential Na+ site.<br /> The new MD simulations provide some additional support for the new Na+ site and could be included. However, as the authors know, direct experimental characterisation of mutants is the ideal evidence of the Na+ site.
Aside from the characterisation of mutants, which seems to be held up by technical issues, the only remaining issue is the comparison of the Na+- and Na+/Neu5Ac-bound states with ASCT2.<br /> It still does not make sense to me why the authors are not directly comparing their Na+ only and Na+/Neu5Ac states with the structures of VcINDY in the Na+-only and Na+/succinate bound states. These VcINDY structures also revealed no conformational changes in the HP loops upon binding succinate, as the authors see for SiaQM. Therefore, this comparison is very supportive. It is understood that the similarity to the DASS structure is mentioned on p.17, but it is also interesting and useful to note that TRAP and DASS transporters also share a lack of substrate-induced local conformational changes, to the extent these things have been measured.
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Reviewer #3 (Public review):
The manuscript by Goyal et al report substrate-bound and substrate-free structures of a tripartite ATP independent periplasmic (TRAP) transporter from a previously uncharacterized homolog, F. nucleatum. This is one of most mechanistically fascinating transporter families, by means of its QM domain (the domain reported in his manuscript) operating as a monomeric 'elevator', and its P domain functioning as a substrate-binding 'operator' that is required to deliver the substrate to the QM domain; together, this is termed an 'elevator with an operator' mechanism. Remarkably, previous structures had not demonstrated the substrate Neu5Ac bound. In addition, they confirm the previously reported Na+ binding sites, and report a new metal binding site in the transporter, which seems to be mechanistically relevant. Finally, they mutate the substrate binding site and use proteoliposomal uptake assays to show the mechanistic relevance of the proposed substrate binding residues.
Strengths:
The structures are of good quality, the presentation of the structural data has improved, the functional data is robust, the text is well-written, and the authors are appropriately careful with their interpretations. Determination of a substrate bound structure is an important achievement and fills an important gap in the 'elevator with an operator' mechanism.
Weaknesses:
Although the possibility of the third metal site is compelling, I do not feel it is appropriate to model in a publicly deposited PDB structure without directly confirming experimentally. The authors do not extensively test the binding sites due to technical limitations of producing relevant mutants; however, their model is consistent with genetic assays of previously characterized orthologs, which will be of benefit to the field. Finally, some clarifications of EM processing would be useful to readers, and it would be nice to have a figure visualizing the unmodeled lipid densities - this would be important to contextualize to their proposed mechanism.
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Reviewer #1 (Public review):
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The authors analyzed the bacterial colonization of human sperm using 16S rRNA profiling. Patterns of microbiota colonization were subsequently correlated with clinical data, such as spermiogram analysis, presence of reactive oxygen species (ROS), and DNA fragmentation. The authors identified three main clusters dominated by Streptococcus, Prevotella, and Lactobacillus & Gardnerella, respectively, which aligns with previous observations. Specific associations were observed for certain bacterial genera, such as Flavobacterium and semen quality. Overall, it is a well-conducted study that further supports the importance of the seminal microbiota.
Strengths:
- The authors performed the analysis on 223 samples, which is the largest dataset in semen microbiota analysis so far<br /> - Inclusion of negative controls to control contaminations.<br /> - Inclusion of a positive control group consisting of men with proven fertility.
Weaknesses:
- The manuscript needs comprehensive proofreading for language and formatting. In many instances spaces are missing or not required.<br /> - Could the authors explore correlation network analyses to get additional insights in the structure of different clusters?<br /> - The github link is not correct.<br /> - It is not possible to access the dataset on ENA.<br /> - Add the graphs obtained with decontam analysis as a supplementary figure.<br /> - There is nothing about the RPL group in the results section, while the authors discuss this issue in the introduction. What about the controls with proven fertility?<br /> - While correctly stated in the title, the term microbiota should be used throughout the manuscript instead of "microbiome"
Comments on revised version:
Discussion: Could the authors discuss more the findings about Flavobacterium? Has it ever been associated with the urogenital tract? What is the relative abundance in the present study: this type of bacterium has been previously associated with contaminations (PMID: 25387460, 30497919).
Figure 1: Increase the size of panel A.
Figure 3: Can the authors indicate the relative abundance of each genus/species by the size of the node?
Supplementary data: I don't see anywhere the decontam plots.
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Reviewer #1 (Public review):
Summary:
The research study under review investigated the relationship between gut and identified potential biomarkers derived from the nasopharyngeal and gut microbiota-based that could aid predicting COVID-19 severity. The study reported significant changes in the richness and Shannon diversity index in nasopharyngeal microbiome associated with severe symptoms.
Strengths:
The study successfully identified differences in the microbiome diversity that could indicate or predict disease severity. Furthermore, the authors demonstrated a link between individual nasopharyngeal organisms and the severity of SARS-CoV-2 infection. The density of the nasopharyngeal organism was shown to be a potential predictors of severity of COVID-19.
Weaknesses:
The authors claimed an association between nasopharyngeal organisms and severity of of SARS-CoV-2 infection but omitted essential data on the actual p-values and percentages to show significance of their results.
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Reviewer #3 (Public review):
Summary:
How the microbial composition of the human body is influenced by and influences disease progression is an important topic. For people with COVID-19, symptomatic progression and deterioration can be difficult to predict. This manuscript attempts to associate the nasal and fecal microbiomes of COVID-19 patients with the severity of disease symptoms, with the goal of identifying microbial markers that can predict disease outcomes.
Strengths:
Analysis of microbiomes from two distinct anatomical locations and across three distinct patient groups is a substantial undertaking. How these microbiomes influence and are influenced by COVID-19 disease progression is an important question. In particular, the putative biomarker identified here could be of clinical value with additional research.
Weaknesses:
The primary weaknesses of this analysis is the relatively low sample size for analyzing disease subsets and moderate correlation values observed for putative biomarkers. Regardless, this data can be used to inform future studies aiming to understand the contribution of multifactorial dysbiosis to COVID-19 disease progression.
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Reviewer #1 (Public review):
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In the manuscript entitled "Magnesium modulates phospholipid metabolism to promote bacterial phenotypic resistance to antibiotics", Li et al demonstrated the role of magnesium in promoting phenotypic resistance in V. alginolyticus. Using standard microbiological and metabolomic techniques, the authors have shown the significance of fatty acid biosynthesis pathway behind the resistance mechanism. This study is significant as it sheds light on the role of an exogenous factor in altering membrane composition, polarization and fluidity which ultimately leads to antimicrobial resistance.
Strengths:
Authors have used different approaches to demonstrate the effect of Mg+2 on drug resistance in Vibrio alginolyticus. The revised version of the manuscript is much improved, with a very informative introduction and a variety of methodologies with clear explanation of the experiments performed. Also, additional experiments were performed as suggested by the reviewers which certainly enhanced the quality of the paper. I believe the findings of this study will be of high impact in the bacterial community.
Weaknesses:
There are a few grammatical mistakes.
Comments on revisions:
The authors have done a comprehensive job of addressing all my concerns in their revised version.
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Reviewer #2 (Public review):
Summary:
In this study, the authors aimed to identify if and how magnesium affects the ability of two particular bacteria species to resist the action of antibiotics. In my view, the authors succeeded in their goals and present a compelling study that will have important implications for the antibiotic resistance research community. Since metals like magnesium are present in all lab media compositions and are present in the host, the data presented in this study certainly will inspire additional research by the community. These could include research into whether other types of metals also induce multi-drug resistance, whether this phenomenon can be observed in other bacterial species, especially pathogenic species that cause clinical disease, and whether the underlying molecular determinants (i.e. enzymes) of metal-induced phenotypic resistance could be new antimicrobial drug targets themselves.
Strengths:
This study's strengths include that the authors used a variety of methodologies, all of which point to a clear effect of exogenous Mg2+ on drug resistance in the targeted species. I also comment the authors for carrying out a comprehensive study, spanning evaluation of whole cell phenotypes, metabolic pathways, genetic manipulation, to enzyme activity level evaluation. The fact that the authors uncovered a molecular mechanism underlying Mg2+-induced phenotypic resistance is particularly important as the key proteins should be studied further.
Weaknesses:
I thank the authors for improving their manuscript based on my previous suggestions. I still believe the Results section is long and bogs down at times.
In general, the conclusions drawn by the authors are justified by the data, except for the interpretation of some experiments. Importantly, this paper has discovered new antimicrobial resistance mechanisms and has also pointed to potential new targets for antimicrobials.
Comments on revisions:
I just wanted to thank the authors for addressing most of my previous comments.
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Reviewer #1 (Public review):
Summary:
In this paper Homan et al used mouse models of Metabolic Dysfunction-Associated Steatotic Liver Disease and different specific target deletions in cells to rule out the role of Complement 3a Receptor 1 in the pathogenesis of disease. They provided limited evidence and only descriptive results that despite C3aR being relevant in different contexts of inflammation, however, these tenets did not hold true.
Comments on revisions:
The revised version fulfilled my queries.
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Reviewer #2 (Public review):
Summary:
Homan et al. examined the effect of macrophage- or Kupffer cell-specific C3aR1 KO on MASLD/MASH-related metabolic or liver phenotypes.
Strengths:
Established macrophage- or Kupffer cell-specific C3aR1 KO mice, and showing comparable liver metabolic phenotypes between WT and macrophage-specific C3aR1KO mice in response to normal chow diet or MASH diet feeding.
Weaknesses:
Insufficient data showing the effects of C3aR1KO on liver macrophage phenotypes, such as hepatic macrophage profiles, macrophage activation status, etc, which are important for the development of liver steatosis and fibrosis.
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Reviewer #2 (Public review):
Summary:
The manuscript by Bock and colleagues describes generation of an AAV-delivered adenine base editing strategy to knockdown PTBP1 and the behavioral and neurorestorative effects of specifically knocking down striatal or nigral PTBP1 in astrocytes or neurons in a mouse model of Parkinson disease. The authors found that knocking down PTBP1 in neurons, but not astrocytes, and in striatum, but not nigra, results in the phenotypic reorganization of neurons to TH+ cells sufficient to rescue motor phenotypes, though insufficient to normalize responses to dopaminomimetic drugs.
Strengths:
The manuscript is well-written and adds to the growing literature challenging previous findings by Qian et al., 2020 and Zhou et al., 2020 indicating that astrocytic downregulation of PTBP1 can induce conversion to dopaminergic neurons in the midbrain and improve parkinsonian symptoms. The base editing approach is interesting and potentially more therapeutically relevant than previous approaches.
Weaknesses:
The animal model utilized, the 6-OHDA model, though useful to examine dopaminergic cell loss, exhibits accelerated neurodegeneration and none of the typical pathological hallmarks (synucleinopathy, Lewy bodies, etc.) compared to the typical etiology of Parkinson disease, limiting its translational interpretation. The identity of the converted neurons is unclear. Though the immunohistochemical methodology indicates they may be MSNs and/or interneurons, a more comprehensive identity is still lacking. There remains no real evidence that these cells actually release dopamine. Since striatal dopamine was assessed by whole-tissue analysis, which is not necessarily reflective of synaptic dopamine availability, it is difficult to assess whether the ~10% increase in TH+ cells in the striatum was sufficient to improve dopamine function. However, the improvement in motor activity suggests that it was.
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Reviewer #3 (Public review):
This study explores the use of an adenine base editing strategy to knock down PTBP1 in astrocytes and neurons of a Parkinson's disease mouse model, as a potential AAV-BE therapy. The results indicate that editing Ptbp1 in neurons, but not astrocytes, leads to the formation of tyrosine hydroxylase (TH)+ cells, rescuing some motor symptoms.
Several aspects of the manuscript stand out positively. Firstly, the clarity of the presentation. The authors communicate their ideas and findings in a clear and understandable manner, making it easier for readers to follow.
The Materials and Methods section is well-elaborated, providing sufficient detail for reproducibility.
The logical flow of the manuscript makes sense, with each section building upon the previous one coherently.
The ABE strategy employed by the authors appears sound, and the manuscript presents a coherent and well-supported argument.
Positively, some of the data in this study effectively counteracts previous work in line with more recent publications, demonstrating the authors' ability to contribute to the ongoing conversation in the field.
Comments on revisions:
The authors have adequately addressed all the previous questions and suggestions by providing new data and/or adding necessary clarifications and deeper discussions. The newly presented data convincingly fills the gaps identified during the initial review process. The additional discussions and clarifications enhance both the clarity and transparency of the manuscript.
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Reviewer #2 (Public review):
Summary:
The authors aimed to investigate the functionality of the GnRH (gonadotropin-releasing hormone) pulse generator in different mouse models to understand its role in reproductive physiology and its implications for conditions like polycystic ovary syndrome (PCOS). They compared the GnRH pulse generator activity in control mice, peripubertal androgen (PPA) treated mice, and prenatal androgen (PNA) exposed mice. The study sought to elucidate how androgen exposure affects the GnRH pulse generator and subsequent LH (luteinizing hormone) secretion, contributing to the pathophysiology of PCOS.
Strengths:
(1) Comprehensive Model Selection: The use of both PPA and PNA mouse models allows for a comparative analysis that can distinguish the effects of different timings of androgen exposure.
(2) Detailed Methodology: The methods employed, such as photometry recordings and serial blood sampling, are robust and allow for precise measurement of GnRH pulse generator activity and LH secretion.
(3) Clear Results Presentation: The experimental results are well-documented with appropriate statistical analyses, ensuring the findings are reliable and reproducible.
(4) Relevance to PCOS: The study addresses a significant gap in understanding the neuroendocrine mechanisms underlying PCOS, making the findings relevant to both basic science and potentially clinical research.
Weaknesses
(1) Model Limitations: While the PNA mouse model is suggested as the most appropriate for studying PCOS, the authors acknowledge that it does not completely replicate the human condition, particularly the elevated LH response seen in women with PCOS.
(2) Complex Data Interpretation: The reduced progesterone feedback and its effects on the GnRH pulse generator in PNA mice add complexity to data interpretation, making it challenging to draw straightforward conclusions.
(3) Machine Learning (ML) Selection and Validation: While k-means clustering is a useful tool for pattern recognition, the manuscript lacks detailed justification for choosing this specific algorithm over other potential methods. The robustness of clustering results has not been validated.
(4) Biological Interpretability: Although the machine learning approach identified cyclical patterns, the biological interpretation of these clusters in the context of PCOS is not thoroughly discussed. A deeper exploration of how these clusters correlate with physiological and pathological states could enhance the study's impact.
(5) Sample Size: The study uses a relatively small number of animals (n=4-7 per group), which may limit the generalisability of the findings. Larger sample sizes could provide more robust and statistically significant results.
(6) Scope of Application: The findings, while interesting, are primarily applicable to mouse models. The translation to human physiology requires cautious interpretation and further validation.
Comments on revised version:
I did not find the response to my main concerns regarding justification for the choice of the number of clusters (k) and providing evidence of cluster robustness satisfactory at all. It sounds contradictory to me to state that the authors have used unsupervised ML approach when at the same time had clear understanding of the data and the features they wanted to capture. Unsupervised approaches are meant to reveal features that are not apparent by eye... however in their response the authors state, "...our aim was to develop an unsupervised approach that would automatically detect the onset and existence of the key features of pulse generator cyclicity that were apparent by eye...". This sounds like a rather supervised ML approach to me.<br /> Furthermore, I am still unsure why did the authors choose k=5, i.e. assumed there are 5 clusters in the data, and did they explore other possible values for k?<br /> - If not why not? How does this fit with the claims that their ML approach is unsupervised, in other words purely data-driven without making any assumptions?<br /> - If yes did they compare the robustness of their clustering results obtained for different values of k?
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Reviewer #3 (Public review):
Summary:
Zhou and colleagues elegantly used pre-clinical mouse models to understand the nature of abnormally high GnRH/LH pulse secretion in polycystic ovary syndrome (PCOS), a major endocrine disorder affecting female fertility worldwide. This work brings a fundamental question of how altered gonadotropin secretion takes place upstream within the GnRH pulse generator core, which is defined by arcuate nucleus kisspeptin neurons.
Strengths:
Authors use state-of-the-art in vivo calcium imaging with fiber photometry and important physiological manipulations and measurements to dissect the possible neuronal mechanisms underlying such neuroendocrine derangements in PCOS. The additional use of unsupervised k-means clustering analysis for the evaluation of calcium synchronous events greatly enhances the quality of their evidence. The authors nicely propose that neuroendocrine dysfunction in PCOS might involve different setpoints through the hypothalamic-pituitary-gonadal (HPG) axis, and beyond kisspeptin neurons, which importantly pushes our field forward toward future investigations.
Weaknesses:
The reviewer agrees that the authors provide important evidence and have improved the quality of the manuscript following first-round revisions. However, they seem resistant to show frequency and amplitude averages in Figure 1 or as supplemental data. Whether the amplitude is dependent on fiber position and its influences on the analysis should be a point of discussion and not data omission. A more detailed analysis of frequency data would enhance the quality of their manuscript.
Comments on revised version:
This comment is related to Reviewer 3's comment # 2 (major) response:
The response does not justify why authors could simply show frequency and amplitude averages in Figure 1 or as supplemental data. Whether the amplitude is dependent on fiber position and its influences on the analysis should be a point of discussion and not data omission.
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Reviewer #1 (Public Review):
Summary:
This paper presents an innovative decoding approach for brain-computer interfaces (BCIs), introducing a new method named MINT. The authors develop a trajectory-centric approach to decode behaviors across several different datasets, including eight empirical datasets from the Neural Latents Benchmark. Overall, the paper is well written and their method shows impressive performance compared to more traditional decoding approaches that use a simpler approach. While there are some concerns (see below), the paper's strengths, particularly its emphasis on a trajectory-centric approach and the simplicity of MINT, provide a compelling contribution to the field.
Strengths:
The adoption of a trajectory-centric approach that utilizes statistical constraints presents a substantial shift in methodology, potentially revolutionizing the way BCIs interpret and predict neural behaviour. This is one of the strongest aspects of the paper.
The thorough evaluation of the method across various datasets serves as an assurance that the superior performance of MINT is not a result of overfitting. The comparative simplicity of the method in contrast to many neural network approaches is refreshing and should facilitate broader applicability.
Weaknesses:
Scope: Despite the impressive performance of MINT across multiple datasets, it seems predominantly applicable to M1/S1 data. Only one of the eight empirical datasets comes from an area outside the motor/somatosensory cortex. It would be beneficial if the authors could expand further on how the method might perform with other brain regions that do not exhibit low tangling or do not have a clear trial structure (e.g. decoding of position or head direction from hippocampus)
When comparing methods, the neural trajectories of MINT are based on averaged trials, while the comparison methods are trained on single trials. An additional analysis might help in disentangling the effect of the trial averaging. For this, the authors could average the input across trials for all decoders, establishing a baseline for averaged trials. Note that inference should still be done on single trials. Performance can then be visualized across different values of N, which denotes the number of averaged trials used for training.
Comments on revisions:
I have looked at the responses and they are thorough and answer all of my questions.
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Reviewer #2 (Public Review):
Summary:
The goal of this paper is to present a new method, termed MINT, for decoding behavioral states from neural spiking data. MINT is a statistical method which, in addition to outputting a decoded behavioral state, also provides soft information regarding the likelihood of that behavioral state based on the neural data. The innovation in this approach is neural states are assumed to come from sparsely distributed neural trajectories with low tangling, meaning that neural trajectories (time sequences of neural states) are sparse in the high-dimensional space of neural spiking activity and that two dissimilar neural trajectories tend to correspond to dissimilar behavioral trajectories. The authors support these assumptions through analysis of previously collected data, and then validate the performance of their method by comparing it to a suite of alternative approaches. The authors attribute the typically improved decoding performance by MINT to its assumptions being more faithfully aligned to the properties of neural spiking data relative to assumptions made by the alternatives.
Strengths:
The paper did an excellent job critically evaluating common assumptions made by neural analytical methods, such as neural state being low-dimensional relative to the number of recorded neurons. The authors made strong arguments, supported by evidence and literature, for potentially high-dimensional neural states and thus the need for approaches that do not rely on an assumption of low dimensionality.
The paper was thorough in considering multiple datasets across a variety of behaviors, as well as existing decoding methods, to benchmark the MINT approach. This provided a valuable comparison to validate the method. The authors also provided nice intuition regarding why MINT may offer performance improvement in some cases and in which instances MINT may not perform as well.
In addition to providing a philosophical discussion as to the advantages of MINT and benchmarking against alternatives, the authors also provided a detailed description of practical considerations. This included training time, amount of training data, robustness to data loss or changes in the data, and interpretability. These considerations not only provided objective evaluation of practical aspects but also provided insights to the flexibility and robustness of the method as they relate back to the underlying assumptions and construction of the approach.
Impact:
This work is motivated by brain-computer interfaces applications, which it will surely impact in terms of neural decoder design. However, this work is also broadly impactful for neuroscientific analysis to relate neural spiking activity to observable behavioral features. Thus, MINT will likely impact neuroscience research generally. The methods are made publicly available, and the datasets used are all in public repositories, which facilitates adoption and validation of this method within the greater scientific community.
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Summary:
This work proposes a synaptic plasticity rule which explains the generation of learned stochastic dynamics during spontaneous activity. The proposed plasticity rule assumes that excitatory synapses seek to minimize the difference between the internal predicted activity and stimulus-evoked activity, and inhibitory synapses tries to maintain the E-I balance by matching the excitatory activity. By implementing this plasticity rule in a spiking recurrent neural network, the authors show that the state-transition statistics of spontaneous excitatory activity agrees with that of the learned stimulus patterns, which is reflected in the learned excitatory synaptic weights. The authors further demonstrate that inhibitory connections contribute to well-defined state-transitions matching the transition patterns evoked by the stimulus. Finally, they show that this mechanism can be expanded to more complex state-transition structures including songbird neural data.
Strengths:
This study makes an important contribution to computational neuroscience, by proposing a possible synaptic plasticity mechanism underlying spontaneous generations of learned stochastic state-switching dynamics that are experimentally observed in the visual cortex and hippocampus. This work is also very clearly presented and well-written, and the authors conducted comprehensive simulations testing multiple hypotheses. Overall, I believe this is a well-conducted study providing interesting and novel aspects on the capacity of recurrent spiking neural networks with local synaptic plasticity.
Weaknesses:
This study is very well-thought out and theoretically valuable to the neuroscience community, and I think the main weaknesses are in regard to how much biological realism is taken into account. For example, the proposed model assumes that only synapses targeting excitatory neurons are plastic, and uses an equal number of excitatory and inhibitory neurons.<br /> The model also assumes Markovian state dynamics while biological systems can depend more on history. This limitation, however, is acknowledged in the Discussion.<br /> Finally, to simulate spontaneous activity, the authors use a constant input of 0.3 throughout the study. Different amplitudes of constant input may correspond to different internal states, so it will be more convincing if the authors test the model with varying amplitudes of constant inputs.
Comments on revisions:
The authors have addressed all of the previously raised concerns satisfactorily, by running extra simulations with a biologically plausible composition of excitatory and inhibitory neurons, plasticity assumed for all synapses, and varied amounts of constant inputs representing internal states or background activities. While in some of these cases the stochastic dynamics during spontaneous activity change or do not replicate those of the learned stimulus patterns as well as before, these extended studies provide thorough evaluations of the strengths and limitations of the proposed plasticity rule as the underlying mechanism of stochastic dynamics during spontaneous activity. Overall, the revision has strengthened the paper significantly.
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Reviewer #3 (Public review):
Summary:
Asabuki and Clopath study stochastic sequence learning in recurrent networks of Poisson spiking neurons that obey Dale's law. Inspired by previous modeling studies, they introduce two distinct learning rules, to adapt excitatory-to-excitatory and inhibitory-to-excitatory synaptic connections. Through a series of computer experiments, the authors demonstrate that their networks can learn to generate stochastic sequential patterns, where states correspond to non-overlapping sets of neurons (cell assemblies) and the state-transition conditional probabilities are first-order Markov, i.e., the transition to a given next state only depends on the current state. Finally, the authors use their model to reproduce certain experimental songbird data involving highly-predictable and highly-uncertain transitions between song syllables. While the findings are only moderately surprising, this is a well-written and welcome detailed study that may be of interest to experts of plasticity and learning in recurrent neural networks that respect Dale's law.
Strengths:
This is an easy-to-follow, well-written paper, whose results are likely easy to reproduce. The experiments are clear and well-explained. In particular, the study of the interplay between excitation and inhibition (and their different plasticity rules) is a highlight of the study. The study of songbird experimental data is another good feature of this paper; finches are classical model animals for understanding sequence learning in the brain. I also liked the study of rapid task-switching, it's a good-to-know type of result that is not very common in sequence learning papers.
Weaknesses:
One weakness I see in this paper is the derivation of the learning rules, which is semi-heuristic. The paper studies Poisson spiking neurons, for which learning rules can be derived from a statistical objective, typically maximum likelihood, as previously done in the cited literature. The authors provide a brief section connecting the learning rules to gradient descent on objective functions, but the link is only heuristic or at least not entirely presented. The reason is that the neural network state is not fully determined by (or "clamped to") the target during learning (for instance, inhibitory neurons do not even have a target assigned). So, the (total) gradient should take into account the recurrent contributions from other neurons, and equation 13 does not appear to be complete/correct to me. Moreover, the target firing rate is a mixture of external currents with currents arising from other neurons in the recurrent network. The authors ideally should start from an actual distribution matching objective (e.g., KL divergence, and not such a squared error), so that their main claims immediately follow from the mathematical derivations. Along the same line, it would be excellent to get some additional insights on the interaction of the two distinct plasticity rules, one of the highlights of the study. This could be naturally achieved by relating their distinct rules to a common principled objective.
The other major weakness (albeit one that is clearly discussed by the authors) is that the study assumes that every excitatory neuron is directly given its target state when learning. In machine learning language, there are no 'hidden' excitatory neurons. While this assumption greatly simplifies the derivation of efficient and biologically-plausible learning rules that can be mapped to synaptic plasticity, it also limits considerably the distributions that can be learned by the network, more precisely to those that satisfy the Markov property.
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Reviewer #1 (Public review):
Summary:
The authors aimed to quantify feral pig interactions in eastern Australia to inform disease transmission networks. They used GPS tracking data from 146 feral pigs across multiple locations to construct proximity-based social networks and analyze contact rates within and between pig social units.
Strengths:
(1) Addresses a critical knowledge gap in feral pig social dynamics in Australia.
(2) Uses robust methodology combining GPS tracking and network analysis.
(3) Provides valuable insights into sex-based and seasonal variations in contact rates.
(4) Effectively contextualizes findings for disease transmission modeling and management.
(5) Includes comprehensive ethical approval for animal research.
(6) Utilizes data from multiple locations across eastern Australia, enhancing generalizability.
Weaknesses:
(1) Limited discussion of potential biases from varying sample sizes across populations
(2) Some key figures are in supplementary materials rather than the main text.
(3) Economic impact figures are from the US rather than Australia-specific data.
(4) Rationale for spatial and temporal thresholds for defining contacts could be clearer.
(5) Limited discussion of ethical considerations beyond basic animal ethics approval.
The authors largely achieved their aims, with the results supporting their conclusions about the importance of sex and seasonality in feral pig contact networks. This work is likely to have a significant impact on feral pig management and disease control strategies in Australia, providing crucial data for refining disease transmission models.
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Reviewer #2 (Public review):
Summary:
The paper attempts to elucidate how feral (wild) pigs cause distortion of the environment in over 54 countries of the world, particularly Australia.
The paper displays proof that over $120 billion worth of facilities were destroyed annually in the United States of America.
The authors have tried to infer that the findings of their work were important and possess a convincing strength of evidence.
Strengths:
(1) Clearly stating feral (wild) pigs as a problem in the environment.
(2) Stating how 54 countries were affected by the feral pigs.
(3) Mentioning how $120 billion was lost in the US, annually, as a result of the activities of the feral pigs.
(4) Amplifying the fact that 14 species of animals were being driven into extinction by the feral pigs.
(5) Feral pigs possessing zoonotic abilities.
(6) Feral pigs acting as reservoirs for endemic diseases like brucellosis and leptospirosis.
(7) Understanding disease patterns by the social dynamics of feral pig interactions.
(8) The use of 146 GPS-monitored feral pigs to establish their social interaction among themselves.
Weaknesses:
(1) Unclear explanation of the association of either the female or male feral pigs with each other, seasonally.
(2) The "abstract paragraph" was not justified.
(3) Typographical errors in the abstract.
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Reviewer #3 (Public review):
Summary:
The authors sought to understand social interactions both within and between groups of feral pigs, with the intent of applying their findings to models of disease transmission. The authors analyzed GPS tracking data from across various populations to determine patterns of contact that could support the transmission of a range of zoonotic and livestock diseases. The analysis then focused on the effects of sex, group dynamics, and seasonal changes on contact rates that could be used to base targeted disease control strategies that would prioritize the removal of adult males for reducing intergroup disease transmission.
Strengths:
It utilized GPS tracking data from 146 feral pigs over several years, effectively capturing seasonal and spatial variation in the social behaviors of interest. Using proximity-based social network analysis, this work provides a highly resolved snapshot of contact rates and interactions both within and between groups, substantially improving research in wildlife disease transmission. Results were highly useful and provided practical guidance for disease management, showing that control targeted at adult males could reduce intergroup disease transmission, hence providing an approach for the control of zoonotic and livestock diseases.
Weaknesses:
Despite their reliability, populations can be skewed by small sample sizes and limited generalizability due to specific environmental and demographic characteristics. Further validation is needed to account for additional environmental factors influencing social dynamics and contact rates
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Reviewer #1 (Public review):
The paper explored cross-species variance in albumin glycation and blood glucose levels in the function of various life-history traits. Their results show that<br /> (1) blood glucose levels predict albumin gylcation rates<br /> (2) larger species have lower blood glucose levels<br /> (3) lifespan positively correlates with blood glucose levels and<br /> (4) diet predicts albumin glycation rates.
The data presented is interesting, especially due to the relevance of glycation to the ageing process and the interesting life-history and physiological traits of birds. Most importantly, the results suggest that some mechanisms might exist that limit the level of glycation in species with the highest blood glucose levels.
While the questions raised are interesting and the amount of data the authors collected is impressive, I have some major concerns about this study:
(1) The authors combine many databases and samples of various sources. This is understandable when access to data is limited, but I expected more caution when combining these. E.g. glucose is measured in all samples without any description of how handling stress was controlled for. E.g glucose levels can easily double in a few minutes in birds, potentially introducing variation in the data generated. The authors report no caution of this effect, or any statistical approaches aiming to check whether handling stress had an effect here, either on glucose or on glycation levels.
(2) The database with the predictors is similarly problematic. There is information pulled from captivity and wild (e.g. on lifespan) without any confirmation that the different databases are comparable or not (and here I'm not just referring to the correlation between the databases, but also to a potential systematic bias (e.g. captivate-based sources likely consistently report longer lifespans). This is even more surprising, given that the authors raise the possibility of captivity effects in the discussion, and exploring this question would be extremely easy in their statistical models (a simple covariate in the MCMCglmms).
(3) The authors state that the measurement of one of the primary response variables (glycation) was measured without any replicability test or reference to the replicability of the measurement technique.
(4) The methods and results are very poorly presented. For instance, new model types and variables are popping up throughout the manuscript, already reporting results, before explaining what these are e.g. results are presented on "species average models" and "model with individuals", but it's not described what these are and why we need to see both. Variables, like "centered log body mass", or "mass-adjusted lifespan" are not explained. The results section is extremely long, describing general patterns that have little relevance to the questions raised in the introduction and would be much more efficiently communicated visually or in a table.
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Reviewer #2 (Public review):
Summary
In this extensive comparative study, Moreno-Borrallo and colleagues examine the relationships between plasma glucose levels, albumin glycation levels, diet, and life-history traits across birds. Their results confirmed the expected positive relationship between plasma blood glucose level and albumin glycation rate but also provided findings that are somewhat surprising or contradicting findings of some previous studies (relationships with lifespan, clutch mass, or diet). This is the first extensive comparative analysis of glycation rates and their relationships to plasma glucose levels and life history traits in birds that are based on data collected in a single study and measured using unified analytical methods.
Strengths
This is an emerging topic gaining momentum in evolutionary physiology, which makes this study a timely, novel, and very important contribution. The study is based on a novel data set collected by the authors from 88 bird species (67 in captivity, 21 in the wild) of 22 orders, which itself greatly contributes to the pool of available data on avian glycemia, as previous comparative studies either extracted data from various studies or a database of veterinary records of zoo animals (therefore potentially containing much more noise due to different methodologies or other unstandardised factors), or only collected data from a single order, namely Passeriformes. The data further represents the first comparative avian data set on albumin glycation obtained using a unified methodology. The authors used LC-MS to determine glycation levels, which does not have problems with specificity and sensitivity that may occur with assays used in previous studies. The data analysis is thorough, and the conclusions are mostly well-supported (but see my comments below). Overall, this is a very important study representing a substantial contribution to the emerging field of evolutionary physiology focused on the ecology and evolution of blood/plasma glucose levels and resistance to glycation.
Weaknesses
My main concern is about the interpretation of the coefficient of the relationship between glycation rate and plasma glucose, which reads as follows: "Given that plasma glucose is logarithm transformed and the estimated slope of their relationship is lower than one, this implies that birds with higher glucose levels have relatively lower albumin glycation rates for their glucose, fact that we would be referring as higher glycation resistance" (lines 318-321) and "the logarithmic nature of the relationship, suggests that species with higher plasma glucose levels exhibit relatively greater resistance to glycation" (lines 386-388). First, only plasma glucose (predictor) but not glycation level (response) is logarithm transformed, and this semi-logarithmic relationship assumed by the model means that an increase in glycation always slows down when blood glucose goes up, irrespective of the coefficient. The coefficient thus does not carry information that could be interpreted as higher (when <1) or lower (when >1) resistance to glycation (this only can be done in a log-log model, see below) because the semi-log relationship means that glycation increases by a constant amount (expressed by the coefficient of plasma glucose) for every tenfold increase in plasma glucose (for example, with glucose values 10 and 100, the model would predict glycation values 2 and 4 if the coefficient is 2, or 0.5 and 1 if the coefficient is 0.5). Second, the semi-logarithmic relationship could indeed be interpreted such that glycation rates are relatively lower in species with high plasma glucose levels. However, the semi-log relationship is assumed here a priori and forced to the model by log-transforming only glucose level, while not being tested against alternative models, such as: (i) a model with a simple linear relationship (glycation ~ glucose); or (ii) a log-log model (log(glycation) ~ log(glucose)) assuming power function relationship (glycation = a * glucose^b). The latter model would allow for the interpretation of the coefficient (b) as higher (when <1) or lower (when >1) resistance in glycation in species with high glucose levels as suggested by the authors.
Besides, a clear explanation of why glucose is log-transformed when included as a predictor, but not when included as a response variable, is missing.
The models in the study do not control for the sampling time (i.e., time latency between capture and blood sampling), which may be an important source of noise because blood glucose increases because of stress following the capture. Although the authors claim that "this change in glucose levels with stress is mostly driven by an increase in variation instead of an increase in average values" (ESM6, line 46), their analysis of Tomasek et al.'s (2022) data set in ESM1 using Kruskal-Wallis rank sum test shows that, compared to baseline glucose levels, stress-induced glucose levels have higher median values, not only higher variation.
Although the authors calculated the variance inflation factor (VIF) for each model, it is not clear how these were interpreted and considered. In some models, GVIF^(1/(2*Df)) is higher than 1.6, which indicates potentially important collinearity; see for example https://www.bookdown.org/rwnahhas/RMPH/mlr-collinearity.html). This is often the case for body mass or clutch mass (e.g. models of glucose or glycation based on individual measurements).
It seems that the differences between diet groups other than omnivores (the reference category in the models) were not tested and only inferred using the credible intervals from the models. However, these credible intervals relate to the comparison of each group with the reference group (Omnivore) and cannot be used for pairwise comparisons between other groups. Statistics for these contrasts should be provided instead. Based on the plot in Figure 4B, it seems possible that terrestrial carnivores differed in glycation level not only from omnivores but also from herbivores and frugivores/nectarivores.
Given that blood glucose is related to maximum lifespan, it would be interesting to also see the results of the model from Table 2 while excluding blood glucose from the predictors. This would allow for assessing if the maximum lifespan is completely independent of glycation levels. Alternatively, there might be a positive correlation mediated by blood glucose levels (based on its positive correlations with both lifespan and glycation), which would be a very interesting finding suggesting that high glycation levels do not preclude the evolution of long lifespans.
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Reviewer #1 (Public review):
Summary:
This manuscript explores the RNA binding activities of the fission yeast Swi6 (HP1) protein and proposes a new role for Swi6 in RNAi-mediated heterochromatin establishment. The authors claim that Swi6 has a specific and high affinity for short interfering RNAs (siRNAs) and recruits the Clr4 (Suv39h) H3K9 methyltransferases to siRNA-DNA hybrids to initiate heterochromatin formation. These claims are not in any way supported by the incomplete and preliminary RNA binding or the in vivo experiments that the authors present. The proposed model also lacks any mechanistic basis as it remains unclear (and unexplored) how Swi6 might bind to specific small RNA sequences or RNA-DNA hybrids. Work by several other groups in the field has led to a model in which siRNAs produced by the RNAi pathway load onto the Ago1-containing RITS complex, which then binds to nascent transcripts at pericentromeric DNA repeats and recruits Clr4 to initiate heterochromatin formation. Swi6 facilitates this process by promoting the recruitment of the RNA-dependent RNA polymerase leading to siRNA amplification.
Weaknesses:
(1) The claims that Swi6 binds to specific small RNAs or to RNA-DNA hybrids are not supported by the evidence that the authors present. Their experiments do not rule out non-specific charged-based interactions. Claims about different affinities of Swi6 for RNAs of different sizes are based on a comparison of KD values derived by the authors for a handful of S. pombe siRNAs with previous studies from the Buhler lab on Swi6 RNA binding. The authors need to compare binding affinities under identical conditions in their assays. The regions of Swi6 that bind to siRNAs need to be identified and evidence must be provided that Swi6 binds to RNAs of a specific length, 20-22 mers, to support the claim that Swi6 binds to siRNAs. This is critical for all the subsequent experiments and claims in the study.
(2) The in vivo results do not validate Swi6 binding to specific RNAs, as stated by the authors. Swi6 pulldowns have been shown to be enriched for all heterochromatic proteins including the RITS complex. The sRNA binding observed by the authors is therefore likely to be mediated by Ago1/RITS.
Most of the binding in Figure S8C seems to be non-specific.
In Figure S8D, the authors' data shows that Swi6 deletion does not derepress the rev dh transcript while dcr1 delete cells do, which is consistent with previous reports but does not relate to the authors' conclusions.
Previous results have shown that swi6 delete cells have 20-fold fewer dg and dh siRNAs than swi6+ cells due to decreased RNA-dependent RNA polymerase complex recruitment and reduced siRNA amplification.
(3) The RIP-seq data are difficult to interpret as presented. The size distribution of bound small RNAs, and where they map along the genome should be shown as for example presented in previous Ago1 sRNA-seq experiments.
It is also unclear whether the defects in sRNA binding observed by the authors represent direct sRNA binding to Swi6 or co-precipitation of Ago1-bound sRNAs.
The authors should also sequence total sRNAs to test whether Swi6-3A affects sRNA synthesis, as is the case in swi6 delete cells.
(4) The authors examine the effects of Swi6-3A mutant by overexpression from the strong nmt1 promoter. Heterochromatin formation is sensitive to the dosage of Swi6. These experiments should be performed by introducing the 3A mutations at the endogenous Swi6 locus and effects on Swi6 protein levels should be tested.
(5) The authors' data indicate an impairment of silencing in Swi6-3A mutant cells but whether this is due to a general lower affinity for nucleosomes, DNA, RNA, or as claimed by the authors, siRNAs is unclear. These experiments are consistent with previous findings suggesting an important role for basic residues in the HP1 hinge region in gene silencing but do not reveal how the hinge region enhances silencing.
(6) RNase H1 overexpression may affect Swi6 localization and silencing indirectly as it would lead to a general reduction in R loops and RNA-DNA hybrids across the genome. RNaseH1 OE may also release chromatin-bound RNAs that act as scaffolds for siRNA-Ag1/RITS complexes that recruit Clr4 and ultimately Swi6.
(7) Examples of inaccurate presentation of the literature.<br /> a. The authors state that "RNA binding by the murine HP1 through its hinge domains is required for heterochromatin assembly (Muchardt et al, 2002). The cited reference provides no evidence that HP1 RNA binding is required for heterochromatin assembly. Only the hinge region of bacterially produced HP1 contributes to its localization to DAPI-stained heterochromatic regions in fixed NIH 3T3 cells.<br /> b. "... This scenario is consistent with the loss of heterochromatin recruitment of Swi6 as well as siRNA generation in rnai mutants (Volpe et al, 2002)." Volpe et al. did not examine changes in siRNA levels in swi6 mutant cells. In fact, no siRNA analysis of any kind was reported in Volpe et al., 2002.
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Reviewer #2 (Public review):
The aim of this study is to investigate the role of Swi6 binding to RNA in heterochromatin assembly in fission yeast. Using in vitro protein-RNA binding assays (EMSA) they showed that Swi6/HP1 binds centromere-derived siRNA (identified by Reinhardt and Bartel in 2002) via the chromodomain and hinge domains. They demonstrate that this binding is regulated by a lysine triplet in the conserved region of the Swi6 hinge domain and that wild-type Swi6 favours binding to DNA-RNA hybrids and siRNA, which then facilitates, rather than competes with, binding to H3K9me2 and to a lesser extent H3K9me3.
However, the majority of the experiments are carried out in swi6 null cells overexpressing wild-type Swi6 or Swi63K-3A mutant from a very strong promoter (nmt1). Both swi6 null cells and overexpression of Swi6 are well known to exhibit phenotypes, some of which interfere with heterochromatin assembly. This is not made clear in the text. Whilst the RNA binding experiments show that Swi6 can indeed bind RNA and that binding is decreased by Swi63K-3A mutation in vitro (confusingly, they only much later in the text explained that these 3 bands represent differential binding and that II is likely an isotherm). The gels showing these data are of poor quality and it is unclear which bands are used to calculate the Kd. RNA-seq data shows that overall fewer siRNAs are produced from regions of heterochromatin in the Swi63K-3A mutant so it is unsurprising that analysis of siRNA-associated motifs also shows lower enrichment (or indeed that they share some similarities, given that they originate from repeat regions).
The experiments are seemingly linked yet fail to substantiate their overall conclusions. For instance, the authors show that the Swi63K-3A mutant displays reduced siRNA binding in vitro (Figure 1D) and that H3K9me2 levels at heterochromatin loci are reduced in vivo (Figure 3C-D). They conclude that Swi6 siRNA binding is important for Swi6 heterochromatin localization, whilst it remains entirely possible that heterochromatin integrity is impaired by the Swi63K-3A mutation and hence fewer siRNAs are produced and available to bind. Their interpretation of the data is really confusing.
The authors go on to show that Swi63K-3A cells have impaired silencing at all regions tested and the mutant protein itself has less association with regions of heterochromatin. They perform DNA-RNA hybrid IPs and show that Swi63K-3A cells which also overexpress RNAseH/rnh1 have reduced levels of dh DNA-RNA hybrids than wild-type Swi6 cells. They interpret this to mean that Swi6 binds and protects DNA-RNA hybrids, presumably to facilitate binding to H3K9me2. The final piece of data is an EMSA assay showing that "high-affinity binding of Swi6 to a dg-dh specific RNA/DNA hybrid facilitates the binding to Me2-K9-H3 rather than competing against it." This EMSA gel shown is of very poor quality, and this casts doubt on their overall conclusion.
Unfortunately, the manuscript is generally poorly written and difficult to comprehend. The experimental setups and interpretations of the data are not fully explained, or, are explained in the wrong order leading to a lack of clarity. An example of this is the reasoning behind the use of the cid14 mutant which is not explained until the discussion of Figure 5C, but it is utilised at the outset in Figure 5A.
Another example of this lack of clarity/confusion is that the abstract states "Here we provide evidence in support of RNAi-independent recruitment of Swi6". Yet it then states "We show that...Swi6/HP1 displays a hierarchy of increasing binding affinity through its chromodomain to the siRNAs corresponding to specific dg-dh repeats, and even stronger binding to the cognate siRNA-DNA hybrids than to the siRNA precursors or general RNAs." RNAi is required to produce siRNAs, so their message is very unclear. Moreover, an entire section is titled "Heterochromatin recruitment of Swi6-HP1 depends on siRNA generation" so what is the author's message?
The data presented, whilst sound in some parts is generally overinterpreted and does not fully support the author's confusing conclusions. The authors essentially characterise an overexpressed Swi6 mutant protein with a few other experiments on the side, that do not entirely support their conclusions. They make the point several times that the KD for their binding experiments is far higher than that previously reported (Keller et al Mol Cell 2012) but unfortunately the data provided here are of an inferior quality and thus their conclusions are neither fully supported nor convincing.
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Reviewer #1 (Public review):
Summary:
Brdar, Osterburg, Munick, et al. present an interesting cellular and biochemical investigation of different p53 isoforms. The authors investigate the impact of different isoforms on the in-vivo transcriptional activity, protein stability, induction of the stress response, and hetero-oligomerization with WT p53. The results are logically presented and clearly explained. Indeed, the large volume of data on different p53 isoforms will provide a rich resource for researchers in the field to begin to understand the biochemical effects of different truncations or sequence alterations.
Strengths:
The authors achieved their aims to better understand the impact/activity of different p53 is-forms, and their data will support their statements. Indeed, the major strengths of the paper lie in its comprehensive characterization of different p53 isoforms and the different assays that are measured. Notably, this includes p53 transcriptional activity, protein degradation, induction of the chaperone machinery, and hetero-oligomerization with wtp53. This will provide a valuable dataset where p53 researchers can evaluate the biological impact of different isoforms in different cell lines. The authors went to great lengths to control and test for the effect of (1) p53 expression level, (2) promotor type, and (3) cell type. I applaud their careful experiments in this regard.
Weaknesses:
One thing that I would have liked to see more of is the quantification of the various pull-down/gel assays - to better quantify the effect of, e.g., hetero-oligomerization among the various isoforms. In addition, a discussion about the role of isoforms that contain truncations in the IDRs is not available. It is well known that these regions function in an auto-inhibitory manner (e.g. work by Wright/Dyson) and also mediate many PPIs, which likely have functional roles in vivo (e.g. recruiting p53 to various complexes). The discussion could be strengthened by focusing on some of these aspects of p53 as well.
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Reviewer #2 (Public review):
Summary:
In this manuscript entitled "p53 isoforms have a high aggregation propensity, interact with chaperones and lack 1 binding to p53 interaction partners", the authors suggest that the p53 isoforms have high aggregation propensity and that they can co-aggregate with canonical p53 (FLp53), p63 and p73 thus exerting a dominant-negative effect.
Strengths:
Overall, the paper is interesting as it provides some characterization of most p53 isoforms DNA binding (when expressed alone), folding structure, and interaction with chaperones. The data presented support their conclusion and bring interesting mechanistic insight into how p53 isoforms may exert some of their activity or how they may be regulated when they are expressed in excess.
Weaknesses:
The main limitation of this manuscript is that the isoforms are highly over-expressed throughout the manuscript, although the authors acknowledge that the level of expression is a major factor in the aggregation phenomenon and "that aggregation will only become a problem if the expression level surpasses a certain threshold level" (lines 273-274 and results shown in Figures S3D, 6E). The p53 isoforms are physiologically expressed in most normal human cell types at relatively low levels which makes me wonder about the physiological relevance of this phenomenon.
Furthermore, it was previously reported that some isoforms clearly induce transcription of target genes which are not observed here. For example, p53β induces p21 expression (Fujita K. et al. p53 isoforms Delta133p53 and p53beta are endogenous regulators of replicative cellular senescence. Nat Cell Biol. 2009 Sep;11(9):1135-42), and Δ133p53α induces RAD51, RAD52, LIG4, SENS1 and SOD1 expression (Gong, L. et al. p53 isoform D113p53/D133p53 promotes DNA double-strand break repair to protect cell from death and senescence in response to DNA damage. Cell Res. 2015, 25, 351-369. / Gong, L. et al. p53 isoform D133p53 promotes the efficiency of induced pluripotent stem cells and ensures genomic integrity during reprogramming. Sci. Rep. 2016, 6, 37281. / Horikawa, I. et al. D133p53 represses p53-inducible senescence genes and enhances the generation of human induced pluripotent stem cells. Cell Death Differ. 2017, 24, 1017-1028. / Gong, L. p53 coordinates with D133p53 isoform to promote cell survival under low-level oxidative stress. J. Mol. Cell Biol. 2016, 8, 88-90. / Joruiz et al. Distinct functions of wild-type and R273H mutant Δ133p53α differentially regulate glioblastoma aggressiveness and therapy-induced senescence. Cell Death Dis. 2024 Jun 27;15(6):454.) which demonstrates that some isoforms can induce target genes transcription and have defined normal functions (e.g. Cellular senescence or DNA repair).
However, in this manuscript, the authors conclude that isoforms are "largely unfolded and not capable of fulfilling a normal cellular function" (line 438), that they do not have "well defined physiological roles" (line 456), and that they only "have the potential to inactivate members of the p53 protein family by forming inactive hetero complexes with wtp53" (line 457-458).
Therefore, I think it is essential that the authors better discuss this major discrepancy between their study and previously published research.
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Reviewer #1 (Public review):
Summary:
The authors' goal was to advance the understanding of metabolic flux in the bradyzoite cyst form of the parasite T. gondii, since this is a major form of transmission of this ubiquitous parasite, but very little is understood about cyst metabolism and growth.
Nonetheless, this is an important advance in understanding and targeting bradyzoite growth.
Strengths:
The study used a newly developed technique for growing T. gondii cystic parasites in a human muscle-cell myotube format, which enables culturing and analysis of cysts. This enabled the screening of a set of anti-parasitic compounds to identify those that inhibit growth in both vegetative (tachyzoite) forms and bradyzoites (cysts). Three of these compounds were used for comparative Metabolomic profiling to demonstrate differences in metabolism between the two cellular forms.
One of the compounds yielded a pattern consistent with targeting the mitochondrial bc1 complex and suggests a role for this complex in metabolism in the bradyzoite form, an important advance in understanding this life stage.
Weaknesses:
Studies such as these provide important insights into the overall metabolic differences between different life stages, and they also underscore the challenge of interpreting individual patterns caused by metabolic inhibitors due to the systemic level of some of the targets, so that some observed effects are indirect consequences of the inhibitor action. While the authors make a compelling argument for focusing on the role of the bc1 complex, there are some inconsistencies in the patterns that underscore the complexity of metabolic systems.
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Reviewer #2 (Public review):
Summary:
A particular challenge in treating infections caused by the parasite Toxoplasma gondii is to target (and ultimately clear) the tissue cysts that persist for the lifetime of an infected individual. The study by Maus and colleagues leverages the development of a powerful in vitro culture system for the cyst-forming bradyzoite stage of Toxoplasma parasites to screen a compound library for candidate inhibitors of parasite proliferation and survival. They identify numerous inhibitors capable of inhibiting both the disease-causing tachyzoite and the cyst-forming bradyzoite stages of the parasite. To characterize the potential targets of some of these inhibitors, they undertake metabolomic analyses. The metabolic signatures from these analyses lead them to identify one compound (MMV1028806) that interferes with aspects of parasite mitochondrial metabolism. The authors claim that MV1028806 targets the bc1 complex of the mitochondrial electron transport chain of the parasite, although the evidence for this is indirect and speculative. Nevertheless, the study presents an exciting approach for identifying and characterizing much-needed inhibitors for targeting tissue cysts in these parasites.
Strengths:
The study presents convincing proof-of-principle evidence that the myotube-based in vitro culture system for T. gondii bradyzoites can be used to screen compound libraries, enabling the identification of compounds that target the proliferation and/or survival of this stage of the parasite. The study also utilizes metabolomic approaches to characterize metabolic 'signatures' that provide clues to the potential targets of candidate inhibitors, although falls short of identifying the actual targets.
Weaknesses:
(1) The authors claim to have identified a compound in their screen (MMV1028806) that targets the bc1 complex of the mitochondrial electron transport chain (ETC). The evidence they present for this claim is indirect (metabolomic signatures and changes in mitochondrial membrane potential) and could be explained by the compound targeting other components of the ETC or affecting mitochondrial biology or metabolism in other ways. In order to make the conclusion that MMV1028806 targets the bc1 complex, the authors should test specifically whether MMV1028806 inhibits bc1-complex activity (i.e. in a direct enzymatic assay for bc1 complex activity). Testing the activity of MMV1028806 against other mitochondrial dehydrogenases (e.g. dihydroorotate dehydrogenase) that feed electrons into the ETC might also provide valuable insights. The experiments the authors perform also do not directly measure whether MMV1028806 impairs ETC activity, and the authors could also test whether this compound inhibits mitochondrial O2 consumption (as would be expected for a bc1 inhibitor).
(2) The authors claim that compounds targeting bradyzoites have greater lipophilicity than other compounds in the library (and imply that these compounds also have greater gastrointestinal absorbability and permeability across the blood-brain barrier). While it is an attractive idea that lipophilicity influences drug targeting against bradyzoites, the effect seems pretty small and is complicated by the fact that the comparison is being made to compounds that are not active against parasites. If the authors are correct in their assertion that lipophilicity is a major determinant of bradyzoicidal compounds compared to compounds that target tachyzoites alone, you would expect that compounds that target tachyzoites alone would have lower lipophilicity than those that target bradyzoites. It would therefore make more sense to (statistically) compare the bradyzoicidal and dual-acting compounds to those that are only active in tachyzoites (visually the differences seem small in Figure S2B). This hypothesis would be better tested through a structure-activity relationship study of select compounds (which is beyond the scope of the study). Overall, the evidence the authors present that high lipophilicity is a determinant of bradyzoite targeting is not very convincing, and the authors should present their conclusions in a more cautious manner.
(3) Page 11 and Figure 7. The authors claim that their data indicate that ATP is produced by the mitochondria of bradyzoites "independently of exogenous glucose and HDQ-target enzymes." The authors cite their previous study (Christiansen et al, 2022) as evidence that HDQ can enter bradyzoites, since HDQ causes a decrease in mitochondrial membrane potential. Membrane potential is linked to the synthesis of ATP via oxidative phosphorylation. If HDQ is really causing a depletion of membrane potential, is it surprising that the authors observe no decrease in ATP levels in these parasites? Testing the importance of HDQ-target enzymes using genetic approaches (e.g. gene knockout approaches) would provide better insights than the ATP measurements presented in the manuscript, although would require considerable extra work that may be beyond the scope of the study. Given that the authors' assay can't distinguish between ATP synthesized in the mitochondrion vs glycolysis, they may wish to interpret their data with greater caution.
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Reviewer #3 (Public review):
Summary:
The authors describe an exciting 400-drug screening using a MMV pathogen box to select compounds that effectively affect the medically important Toxoplasma parasite bradyzoite stage. This work utilises a bradyzoites culture technique that was published recently by the same group. They focused on compounds that affected directly the mitochondria electron transport chain (mETC) bc1-complex and compared them with other bc1 inhibitors described in the literature such as atovaquone and HDQs. They further provide metabolomics analysis of inhibited parasites which serves to provide support for the target and to characterise the outcome of the different inhibitors.
Strengths:
This work is important as, until now, there are no effective drugs that clear cysts during T. gondii infection. So, the discovery of new inhibitors that are effective against this parasite stage in culture and thus have the potential to battle chronic infection is needed. The further metabolic characterization provides indirect target validation and highlights different metabolic outcomes for different inhibitors. The latter forms the basis for new studies in the field to understand the mode of inhibition and mechanism of bc1-complex function in detail.
The authors focused on the function of one compound, MMV1028806, that is demonstrated to have a similar metabolic outcome to burvaquone. Furthermore, the authors evaluated the importance of ATP production in tachyzoite and bradyzoites stages and under atovaquone/HDQs drugs.
Weaknesses:
Although the authors did experiments to identify the metabolomic profile of the compounds and suggested bc-1 complex as the main target of MMV1028806, they did not provide experimental validation for that.
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Wang et al. investigate sexual dimorphic changes in the transcriptome of aged humans. This study relies upon analysis of the Genotype-Tissue Expression dataset that includes 54 tissues from human donors. The authors investigate 17,000 transcriptomes from 35 tissues to investigate the effect of age and sex on transcriptomic variation, including the analysis of alternative splicing. Alternative splicing is becoming more appreciated as an influence in the aging process, but how it is affected by sexual dimorphism is still largely unclear. The authors investigated multiple tissues but ended up distilling brain tissue down to four separate regions: decision, hormone, memory, and movement. Building upon prior work, the authors used an analysis method called principal component-based signal-to-variation ratio (pcSVR) to quantify differences between sex or age by considering data dispersion. This method also considers differentially expressed genes and alternative splicing events.
Strengths:
(1) The authors investigate sexual dimorphism on gene expression and alternative splicing events with age in multiple tissues from a large publicly available data set that allows for reanalysis.
(2) Furthermore, the authors take into account the ethnic background of donors. Identification of aging-modulating genes could be useful for the reanalysis of prior data sets.
Weaknesses:
The models built off of the GTEx dataset should be tested in another data set (ex. Alzheimer's disease) where there are functional changes that can be correlated. Gene-length-dependent transcription decline, which occurs with age and disease, should also be investigated in this data set for potential sexual dimorphism.
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Reviewer #2 (Public review):
Summary:
In this manuscript, Wang et al analyze ~17,000 transcriptomes from 35 human tissues from the GTEx database and address transcriptomic variations due to age and sex. They identified both gene expression changes as well as alternative splicing events that differ among sexes. Using breakpoint analysis, the authors find sex dimorphic shifts begin with declining sex hormone levels with males being affected more than females. This is an important pan-tissue transcriptomic study exploring age and sex-dependent changes although not the first one.
Strengths:
(1) The authors use sophisticated modeling and statistics for differential, correlational, and predictive analysis.
(2) The authors consider important variables such as genetic background, ethnicity, sampling bias, sample sizes, detected genes, etc.
(3) This is likely the first study to evaluate alternative splicing changes with age and sex at a pan-tissue scale.
(4) Sex dimorphism with age is an important topic and is thoroughly analyzed in this study.
Weaknesses:
(1) The findings have not been independently validated in a separate cohort or through experiments. Only selective splicing factor regulation has been verified in other studies.
(2) It seems the authors have not considered PMI or manner of death as a variable in their analysis.
(3) The manuscript is very dense and sometimes difficult to follow due to many different types of analyses and correlations.
(4) Short-read data can detect and quantify alternative splicing events with only moderate confidence and therefore the generalizability of these findings remains to be experimentally validated.
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Reviewer #3 (Public review):
Summary:
In this study, Wang et al utilized the available GTEx data to compile a comprehensive analysis that attempt to reveal aging-related sex-dimorphic gene expression as well as alternative splicing changes in humans.
The key conclusions based on their analysis are that
(1) extensive sex-dimorphisms during aging with distinct patterns of change in gene expression and alternative splicing (AS), and
(2) the male-biased age-associated AS events have a stronger association with Alzheimer's disease, and
(3) the female-biased events are often regulated by several sex-biased splicing factors that may be controlled by estrogen receptors. They further performed break-point analysis and revealed that in males there are two main breakpoints around ages 35 and 50, while in females, there is only one breakpoint at 45.
Strengths:
This study sets an ambitious goal, leveraging the extensive GTEx dataset to investigate aging-related, sex-dimorphic gene expression and alternative splicing changes in humans. The research addresses a significant question, as our understanding of sex-dimorphic gene expression in the context of human aging is still in its early stages. Advancing our knowledge of these molecular changes is vital for identifying therapeutic targets for age-related diseases and extending the human health span. The study is highly comprehensive, and the authors are commendable for their attempted thorough analysis of both gene expression and alternative splicing - an area often overlooked in similar studies.
Weaknesses:
Due to the inherent noise within the GTEx dataset - which includes numerous variables beyond aging and sex - there are significant technical concerns surrounding this study. Additionally, the lack of cross-validation with independent, existing data raises questions about whether the observed gene expression changes genuinely reflect those associated with human aging. For instance, the break-point analysis in this study identifies two major breakpoints in males around ages 35 and 50, and one breakpoint in females at age 45; however, these findings contradict a recent multi-omics longitudinal study involving 108 participants aged 25 to 75 years, where breakpoint at 44 and 60 years was observed in both male and females (Shen et al, 2024). These issues cast doubt on the robustness of the study's conclusions. Specific concerns are outlined below:
(1) The primary method used in this study is linear regression, incorporating age, sex, and age-by-sex interactions as covariates, alongside other confounding factors (such as ethnicity) as unknown variables. However, the analysis overlooks two critical known variables in the GTEx dataset: time of death (TOD) and postmortem interval (PMI). Both TOD and PMI are recorded for each sample and account for substantial variance in gene expression profiles. A recent study by Wucher et al.(Wucher et al, 2023) demonstrated the powerful impact of TOD on gene expression by using it to reconstruct human circadian and even circannual datasets. Similarly, Ferreira et al. (Ferreira et al, 2018) highlighted PMI's influence on gene expression patterns. Without properly adjusting for these two variables, confidence in the study's conclusions remains limited at best.
(2) To demonstrate that their analysis is robust and that the covariates TOD and PMI are otherwise negligible - the authors should cross-validate their findings with independent datasets to confirm that the identified gene expression changes are reproducible for some tissues. For instance, the recent study by Shen et al. (Shen et al., 2024) in Nature Aging offers an excellent dataset for cross-validation, particularly for blood samples. Comparing the GTEx-derived results with this longitudinal transcriptome dataset would enable verification of gene expression changes at both the individual gene and pathway levels. Without such validation, confidence in the study's conclusions remains limited.
(3) As a demonstration of the lack of such validation, in the Shen et al. study (Shen et al., 2024), breakpoints at 44 and 60 years were observed in both males and females, while this study identifies two major breakpoints in males around ages 35 and 50, and one breakpoint in females at age 45. What caused this discrepancy?
(4) Although the alternative splicing analysis is intriguing, the authors did not differentiate between splicing events that alter the protein-coding sequence and those that do not. Many splicing changes occurring in the 5' UTR and 3' UTR regions do not impact protein coding, so it is essential to filter these out and focus specifically on alternative splicing events that can modify protein-coding sequences.
(5) One of the study's main conclusions - that "male-biased age-associated AS events have a stronger association with Alzheimer's disease" - is not supported by the data presented in Figure 4A, which shows an association with "regulation of amyloid precursor formation" only in female, not male, alternative splicing genes. Additionally, the gene ontology term "Alzheimer's disease" is absent from the unbiased GO analysis in Figure S6. These discrepancies suggest that the focus on Alzheimer's disease may reflect selective data interpretation rather than results driven by an unbiased analysis.
(6) The experimental data presented in Figures 5E - I merely demonstrate that estrogen receptor regulates the expression of two splicing factors, SRSF1 and SRSF7, in an estradiol-dependent manner. However, this finding does not support the notion that this regulation actually contributes to sex-dimorphic alternative splicing changes during human aging. Notably, the authors do not provide evidence that SRSF1 and SRSF7 expression changes actually occur in a sex-dependent manner with human aging (in a manner similar to TIA1). As such, this experimental dataset is disconnected from the main focus of the study and does not substantiate the conclusions on sex-dimorphic splicing during human aging. The authors performed RNA-seq in wild-type and ER mutant cells, and they should perform a comprehensive analysis of ER-dependent alternative splicing and compare the results with the GTEx data. It should be straightforward.
References:
Ferreira PG, Muñoz-Aguirre M, Reverter F, Sá Godinho CP, Sousa A, Amadoz A, Sodaei R, Hidalgo MR, Pervouchine D, Carbonell-Caballero J et al (2018) The effects of death and post-mortem cold ischemia on human tissue transcriptomes. Nature Communications 9: 490.
Shen X, Wang C, Zhou X, Zhou W, Hornburg D, Wu S, Snyder MP (2024) Nonlinear dynamics of multi-omics profiles during human aging. Nature Aging.
Wucher V, Sodaei R, Amador R, Irimia M, Guigó R (2023) Day-night and seasonal variation of human gene expression across tissues. PLOS Biology 21: e3001986.
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Reviewer #1 (Public review):
Summary:
Hurtado et al. show that Sox9 is essential for retinal integrity, and its null mutation causes the loss of the outer nuclear layer (ONL). The authors then show that this absence of the ONL is due to apoptosis of photoreceptors and a reduction in the numbers of other retinal cell types such as ganglion cells, amacrine cells, and horizontal cells. They also describe that Müller Glia undergoes reactive gliosis by upregulating the Glial Fibrillary Acidic Protein. The authors then show that Sox9+ progenitors proliferate and differentiate to generate the corneal cells through Sox9 lineage-tracing experiments. They validate Sox9 expression and characterize its dynamics in limbal stem cells using an existing single-cell RNA sequencing dataset. Finally, the authors argue that Sox9 deletion causes progenitor cells to lose their clonogenic capacity by comparing the sizes of control and Sox9-null clones. Overall, Hurtado et al. underline the importance of Sox9 function in retinal and corneal cells.
Strengths:
The authors have characterized a myriad of striking phenotypes due to Sox9 deletion in the retina and limbal stem cells which will serve as a basis for future studies.
Weaknesses:
Hurtado et al. investigate the importance of Sox9 in the retina and limbal stem cells. However, the overall experimental narrative appears dispersed.
The authors begin by characterizing the phenotype of Sox9 deletion in the retina and show that the absence of the ON layer is due to photoreceptor apoptosis and a reduction in other retinal cell types. The authors also note that Müller glia undergoes gliosis in the Sox9 deletion condition. These striking observations are never investigated further, and instead, the authors switch to lineage-tracing experiments in the limbus that seem disconnected from the first three figures of the paper. Another example of this disconnect is the comparison of Sox9 high and Sox9 low populations using an existing scRNA-seq dataset and the subsequent GO term analysis, which does not directly tie in with the lineage-tracing data of the succeeding Sox9∆/∆ experiments.
A major concern is that a single Sox9∆/∆ limbal clone has a sufficiently large size, comparable to wild-type clones, as seen in Figure 6D. This singular result is contrary to their conclusion, which states that Sox9-deficient stem cells minimally contribute to the maintenance of the cornea.
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Reviewer #2 (Public review):
Summary:
Sox9 is a transcription factor crucial for development and tissue homeostasis, and its expression continues in various adult eye cell types, including retinal pigmented epithelium cells, Müller glial cells, and limbal and corneal basal epithelia. To investigate its functional roles in the adult eye, this study employed inducible mouse mutagenesis. Adult-specific Sox9 depletion led to severe retinal degeneration, including the loss of Müller glial cells and photoreceptors. Further, lineage tracing revealed that Sox9 is expressed in a basal limbal stem cell population that supports stem cell maintenance and homeostasis. Mosaic analysis confirmed that Sox9 is essential for the differentiation of limbal stem cells. Overall, the study highlights that Sox9 is critical for both retinal integrity and the differentiation of limbal stem cells in the adult mouse eye.
Strengths:
In general, inducible genetic approaches in the adult mouse nervous system are rare and difficult to carry out. Here, the authors employ tamoxifen-inducible mouse mutagenesis to uncover the functional roles of Sox9 in the adult mouse eye.
Careful analysis suggests that two degeneration phenotypes (mild and severe) are detected in the adult mouse eye upon tamoxifen-dependent Sox9 depletion. Phenotype severity nicely correlates with the efficiency of Cre-mediated Sox9 depletion.
Molecular marker analysis provides strong evidence of Mueller cell loss and photoreceptor degeneration.
A clever genetic tracing strategy uncovers a critical role for Sox9 in limbal stem cell differentiation.
Weaknesses:
The Introduction can be improved by explaining clearly what was previously known about Sox9 in the eye. A lot of this info is mentioned in a single, 3-page long paragraph in the Discussion. However, the current study's significance and novelty would become clearer if the authors articulated in more detail in the Introduction what was already known about Sox9 in retina cell types (in vitro and in vivo).
Because a ubiquitous tamoxifen-inducible CreER line is employed, non-cell autonomous mechanisms possibly contribute to the observed retina degeneration. There is precedence for this in the literature. For example, RPE-specific ablation of Otx2 results in photoreceptor degeneration (PMID: 23761884). Have the authors considered the possibility of non-cell autonomous effects upon ubiquitous Sox9 deletion?
Given the similar phenotypes between animals lacking Otx2 and Sox9 in specific cell types of the eye, the authors are encouraged to evaluate Otx2 expression in the tamoxifen-induced Sox9 adult retina.
The most parsimonious explanation for the dual role of Sox9 in retinal cell types and limbal stem cells is that the cell context is different. For example, Sox9 may cooperate with TF1 in photoreceptors, TF2, in Mueller cells, and TF3 in limbal stem cells, and such cell type-specific cooperation may result in different outcomes (retinal integrity, stem cell differentiation). The authors are encouraged to add a paragraph to the discussion and share their thoughts on the dual role of Sox9.
One more molecular marker for Mueller glial cells would strengthen the conclusion that these cells are lost upon Sox9 deletion.
Using opsins as markers, the authors conclude that the photoreceptors are lost upon Sox9 deletion. However, an alternate possibility is that the photoreceptors are still present and that Sox9 is required for the transcription of opsin genes. In that case, Sox9 (like Otx2) may act as a terminal selector in photoreceptor cells. This point is particularly important because vertebrate terminal selectors (e.g., Nurr1, Otx2, Brn3a) initially affect neuron type identity and eventually lead to cell loss.
Quantification is needed for the TUNEL and GFAP analysis in Figure 3.
Line 269-320: The authors examined available scRNA-Seq data on adult retina. This data provides evidence for Sox9 expression in distinct cell types. However, the dataset does not inform about the functional role of Sox9 because Sox9 mutant cells were not analyzed with RNA-Seq. Hence, all the data that claim that this experiment provides insights into possible Sox9 functional roles must be removed. This includes panels F, G, and H in Figure 5. In general, this section of the paper (Lines 269-320) needs a major revision. Similarly, lines 442-446 in the Discussion should be removed.
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Reviewer #1 (Public review):
Summary:
This work investigates numerically the propagation of subthreshold waves in a model neural network that is derived from the C. elegans connectome. Using a scattering formalism and tight-binding description of the network -- approximations which are commonplace in condensed matter physics -- this work attempts at showing the relevance of interference phenomena, such as wavenumber-dependent propagation, for the dynamics of subthreshold waves propagating in a network of electrical synapses.
Strengths:
The primary strength of the work is in trying to use theoretical tools from a far-away corner of fundamental physics to shed light on the properties of a real neural system.
Weaknesses:
The authors provide a good introduction and motivation for studying the propagation of subthreshold oscillations in the inferior olive nuclei. However, they chose to use the C elegans connectome for their study, and the implications of this work for C elegans neuroscience remain unclear by the end of the preprint. The authors should also give more evidence for the claim that their study may give a mechanism for synchronized rhythmic activity in the mammalian inferior olive nucleus, or refrain from making this conclusion. In the same vein, since the work emphasizes the dependence on the wavenumber for the propagation of subthreshold oscillations, they should make an attempt at estimating the wavenumber of subthreshold oscillations in C elegans if they were to exist and be observed. Next, the presence of two "mobility edges" in the transmission coefficient calculated in this work is unmistakably due to the discrete nature of the system, coming from the tight-binding approximation, and it is unclear to me if this approximation is justified in the current system. Similarly, it is possible that the wavenumber-dependent transmission observed depends strongly on the addition of a large number of virtual nodes (VNs) in the network, which the authors give little to no motivation for. As these nodes are not present in the C elegans connectome, the authors should explain the motivation for their inclusion in the model and should discuss their consequences on the transmission properties of the network. As it stands, I think the work would only have a very limited impact on the understanding of subthreshold oscillations in the rat or in C elegans. Indeed, the preprint falls short of relating its numerical results to any phenomena which could be observed in the lab.
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Reviewer #2 (Public review):
This manuscript addresses an interesting and important question: the basic mechanisms underlying subthreshold intrinsic oscillations in the inferior olive. Instead of a direct investigation of the questions, the authors decide to study subthreshold oscillations in the C-elegance, where the connectivity pattern is known but does not exhibit sub-threshold oscillations. Furthermore, instead of the common description of gap-junction coupling by resistors, the authors decide to represent the system as a tight-binding Anderson Hamiltonian.
Weaknesses:
The authors study an architecture of the C-elegance instead of that of the inferior olive of mammals because the architecture of C-elegance is known.
No subthreshold oscillations were identified in the C-elegance.<br /> Instead of representing electrical coupling via resistors that connect neurons, the authors use a quantum formalism and introduce the tight-binding Anderson Hamiltonian. Why?
Equally spaced two virtual nodes were added between cells connected by a gap junction. Why?
Comments on revised version:
Last time, I recommended that the authors should represent electrical coupling via resistors that connect neurons instead of via the quantum formalism. The authors have not tested this direction.
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What neurophysiological changes support the learning of new sensorimotor transformations is a key question in neuroscience. Many studies have attempted to answer this question at the neuronal population level - with varying degrees of success - but few, if any, have studied the change in activity of the apical dendrites of layer 5 cortical neurons. Neurons in the layer 5 of the sensory cortex appear to play a key role in sensorimotor transformations, showing important decision and reward-related signals, and being the main source of cortical and subcortical projections from the cortex. In particular, pyramidal track (PT) neurons project directly to subcortical regions related to motor activity, such as the striatum and brainstem, and could initiate rapid motor action in response to given sensory inputs. Additionally, layer 5 cortical neurons have large apical dendrites that extend to layer 1 where different neuromodulatory and long-range inputs converge, providing motor and contextual information that could be used to modulate layer 5 neurons output and/or to establish the synaptic plasticity required for learning a new association.
In this study, the authors aimed to test whether the learning of a new sensorimotor transformation could be supported by a change in the evoked response of the apical dendrites of layer 5 neurons in the mouse whisker primary somatosensory cortex. To do this, they performed longitudinal functional calcium imaging of the apical dendrites of layer 5 neurons while mice learned to discriminate between two multiwhiskers stimuli. The authors used a simple conditioning task in which one whisker stimulus (upward or backward air puff, CS+) is associated with reward after a short delay, while the other whisker stimulus (CS-) is not. They found that task learning (measured by the probability of anticipatory licking just after the CS+) was not associated with a significant change of the average population response evoked by the CS+ or the CS-, nor change in the average population selectivity. However, when considering individual dendritic tufts, they found interesting changes in selectivity, with approximately equal numbers of dendrites becoming more selective for CS+ and dendrites becoming more selective for CS-.
One of the major challenges when assessing changes in neural representation during the learning of such Go/NoGo tasks is that the movements and rewards themselves may elicit strong neural responses that may be a confounding factor, that is, inexperienced mice do not lick in response to the CS+, while trained mice do. In this study, the authors addressed this issue in three ways: first, they carefully monitor the orofacial movements of mice and show that task learning is not associated with changes in evoked whisker movements. Second, they show that whisking or licking evokes very little activity in the dendritic tufts compared to whisker stimuli (CS+ and CS-). Finally, the authors introduced into the design of their task a post-conditioning session after the last conditioning session during which the CS+ and the CS- are presented but no reward is delivered. During this post-session, the mice gradually stopped licking in response to the CS+. A better design might have been to perform the pre-conditioning and post-conditioning sessions in non-water-restricted, unmotivated mice to completely exclude any lick response, but the fact that the change in selectivity persists after the mice stopped licking in the last blocks of the post-conditioning session (in mice relying only on their whiskers to perform the task) is convincing.
The clever task design and careful data analysis provide compelling evidence that learning this whisker discrimination task does not result in a massive change in sensory representation in the apical dendritic tufts of layer 5 neurons in the primary somatosensory cortex on average. Nevertheless, individual dendritic tufts do increase their selectivity for one or the other sensory stimulus, likely enhancing the ability of S1 neurons to accurately discriminate the two stimuli and trigger the appropriate motor response (to lick or not to lick).
One limitation of the present study is the lack of evidence for the necessity of the primary somatosensory cortex in the learning and execution of the task. As the authors have strongly emphasized in their previous publications, the primary somatosensory cortex may not be necessary for the learning and execution of simple whisker detection tasks, especially when the stimulus is very salient. Although this new task requires the discrimination between two whisker stimuli, the simplicity and salience of the whisker stimuli used could make this task cortex independent. Especially when considering that some mice seem to not rely entirely on their whiskers to execute the task.
Nevertheless, this is an important result that shows for the first-time changes in the selectivity to sensory stimuli at the level of individual apical dendritic tufts in correlation with the learning of a discrimination task. This study sheds new light on the cortical cellular substrates of reward-based learning, and opens interesting perspectives for future research in this area. In future studies, it will be important to determine whether the change in selectivity of dendritic calcium spikes is causally involved in the learning the task or whether it simply correlates with learning, as a consequence of changes in synaptic inputs caused by reward. The dendritic calcium spikes may be involved in the establishment of synaptic plasticity required for learning and impact the output of layer 5 pyramidal neurons to trigger the appropriate motor response. It would be important also to study the changes in selectivity in the apical dendrite of the identified projection neurons.
Comments on revisions:
The authors have addressed all my questions. I have no further recommendations.
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Reviewer #2 (Public review):
Summary:
The authors did not find an increased representation of CS+ throughout reinforcement learning in the tuft dendrites of Rbp4-positive neurons from layer 5B of the barrel cortex, as previously reported for soma from layer 2/3 of the visual cortex.<br /> Alternatively, the authors observed an increased selectivity to both stimuli (CS+ and CS-) during reinforcement learning. This feature 1) was not present in repeated exposures (without reinforcement), 2) was not explained by animal's behaviour (choice, licking and whisking) and 3) was long-lasting, being present even when the mice disengaged from the task.<br /> Importantly, increased selectivity was correlated with learning (% correct choices), and neural discriminability between stimuli increased with learning.
In conclusion, the authors show that tuft dendrites from layer 5B of the barrel cortex increase the representation of conditioned (CS+) and unconditioned stimuli (CS-) applied to the whiskers, during reinforcement learning.
Strengths:<br /> The results presented are very consistent throughout the entire study, and therefore very convincing:
(1) The results observed are very similar using two different imaging techniques (using 2-photon -planar imaging- and SCAPE - volumetric imaging). Fig. 3 and Fig.4 respectively.<br /> (2) The results are similar using "different groups" of tuft dendrites for the analysis (e.g. initially unresponsive and responsive pre- and post-learning). Fig. 5.<br /> (3) The results are similar from a specific set of trials (with the same sensory input, but different choices). Fig.7.<br /> (4) Additionally, the selectivity of tuft dendrites from layer 5B of the barrel cortex was higher in the mice that exclusively used the whisker to respond to the stimuli (CS+ and CS-).
The results presented are controlled against a group of mice that received the same stimuli presentation, except the reinforcement (reward).
Additionally, the behaviour outputs, such as choice, whisking and licking could not account for the results observed.
Although there are no causal experiments, the correlation between selectivity and learning (% of correct choices), as well as the increased neural discriminability with learning, but not in repeated exposure, are very convincing.
Weaknesses:
The biggest weakness is the absence of causality experiments. Although inhibiting specifically tuft dendritic activity in layer 1 from layer 5 pyramidal neurons is very challenging, tuft dendritic activity in layer 1 could be silenced through optogenetic experiments as in Abs et al. 2018. By manipulating NDNF-positive neurons the authors could specifically modify tuft dendritic activity in the barrel cortex during CS presentations, and test if silencing tuft dendritic activity in layer 1 would lead to the lack of selectivity and an impairment of reinforcement learning. Additionally, this experiment will test if the selectivity observed during reinforcement learning is due to changes in the local network, namely changes in local synaptic connectivity, or solely due to changes in the long-range inputs.
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Reviewer #2 (Public review):
Summary:
The manuscript proposes a new technology to survey insects. They deployed optical sensors in agricultural landscapes and contrast their results to those in classical malaise and sweep nets survey methodologies. They found the results of optical sensors to be comparable with classical survey methodologies. The authors discuss pros and cons of their near-infrared sensor.
Strengths:
Contrasting the results with optical sensors with those in classical malaise and sweep nets was a clever idea.
Weaknesses:
The submitted materials on Revision 1 (in particular the response to reviewers) are difficult to follow. I encourage the authors to provide a point-by-point response to the first set of comments, as well as to this second review.
A new version of the manuscript needs to make sure that variability in the system (different crops) is taken into consideration. Also, stronger analysis including our current understanding of biodiversity metrics (including measures of sample coverage, sample completeness, Hill numbers, among others) will be important to make sure your new methodology is properly capable to be used as a new standard methodology.
While this new version is stronger and much clearer, I also agree with Reviewer 1 that the usage of terminology is weak. The paper and the new methodology is sound. It is is the application to real ecosystems/questions and datasets that is not properly addressed in the manuscript.
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Reviewer #1 (Public review):
Summary:
This paper explores how diverse forms of inhibition impact firing rates in models for cortical circuits. In particular, the paper studies how the network operating point affects the balance of direct inhibition from SOM inhibitory neurons to pyramidal cells, and disinhibition from SOM inhibitory input to PV inhibitory neurons. This is an important issue as these two inhibitory pathways have largely been studies in isolation. Support for the main conclusions is generally solid, but could be strengthened by additional analyses.
Strengths
The paper has improved in revision, and the new intuitive summary statements added to the end of each results section are quite helpful.
Weaknesses
The concern about whether the results hold outside of the range in which neural responses are linear remains. This is particularly true given the discontinuity observed in the stability measure. I appreciate the concern (provided in the response to the first round of reviews) that studying nonlinear networks requires a lot of work. A more limited undertaking would be to test the behavior of a spiking network at a few key points identified by your linearization approach. Such tests could use relatively simple (and perhaps imperfect) measures of gain and stability. This could substantially enhance the paper, regardless of the outcome.
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Reviewer #2 (Public review):
Summary:
Bos and colleagues address the important question of how two major inhibitory interneuron classes in the neocortex differentially affect cortical dynamics. They address this question by studying Wilson-Cowan-type mathematical models. Using a linearized fixed point approach, they provide convincing evidence that the existence of multiple interneuron classes can explain the counterintuitive finding that inhibitory modulation can increase the gain of the excitatory cell population while also increasing the stability of the circuit's state to minor perturbations. This effect depends on the connection strengths within their circuit model, providing valuable guidance as to when and why it arises.
Overall, I find this study to have substantial merit. I have some suggestions on how to improve the clarity and completeness of the paper.
Strengths:
(1) The thorough investigation of how changes in the connectivity structure affect the gain-stability relationship is a major strength of this work. It provides an opportunity to understand when and why gain and stability will or will not both increase together. It also provides a nice bridge to the experimental literature, where different gain-stability relationships are reported from different studies.
(2) The simplified and abstracted mathematical model has the benefit of facilitating our understanding of this puzzling phenomenon. (I have some suggestions for how the authors could push this understanding further.) It is not easy to find the right balance between biologically-detailed models vs simple but mathematically tractable ones, and I think the authors struck an excellent balance in this study.
Weaknesses:
(1) The fixed-point analysis has potentially substantial limitations for understanding cortical computations away from the steady-state. I think the authors should have emphasized this limitation more strongly and possibly included some additional analyses to show that their conclusions extend to the chaotic dynamical regimes in which cortical circuits often live.
(2) The authors could have discussed -- even somewhat speculatively -- how VIP interneurons fit into this picture. Their absence from this modelling framework stands out as a missed opportunity.
(3) The analysis is limited to paths within this simple E, PV, SOM circuit. This misses more extended paths (like thalamocortical loops) that involve interactions between multiple brain areas. Including those paths in the expansion in Eqs. 11-14 (Fig. 1C) may be an important consideration.
Comments on revisions:
I think the authors have done a reasonable job of responding to my critiques, and the paper is in pretty good shape. (Also, thanks for correctly inferring that I meant VIP interneurons when I had written SST in my review! I have updated the public review accordingly.)
I still think this line of research would benefit substantially from considering dynamic regimes including chaotic ones. I strongly encourage the authors to consider such an extension in future work.
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Reviewer #3 (Public review):
Summary:
Bos et al study a computational model of cortical circuits with excitatory (E) and two subtypes of inhibition - parvalbumin (PV) and somatostatin (SOM) expressing interneurons. They perform stability and gain analysis of simplified models with nonlinear transfer functions when SOM neurons are perturbed. Their analysis suggests that in a specific setup of connectivity, instability and gain can be untangled, such that SOM modulation leads to both increases in stability and gain, in contrast to the typical direction in neuronal networks where increased gain results in decreased stability.
Strengths:
- Analysis of the canonical circuit in response to SOM perturbations. Through numerical simulations and mathematical analysis, the authors have provided a rather comprehensive picture of how SOM modulation may affect response changes.<br /> - Shedding light on two opposing circuit motifs involved in the canonical E-PV-SOM circuitry - namely, direct inhibition (SOM -> E) vs disinhibition (SOM -> PV -> E). These two pathways can lead to opposing effects, and it is often difficult to predict which one results from modulating SOM neurons. In simplified circuits, the authors show how these two motifs can emerge and depend on parameters like connection weights.<br /> - Suggesting potentially interesting consequences for cortical computation. The authors suggest that certain regimes of connectivity may lead to untangling of stability and gain, such that increases in network gain are not compromised by decreasing stability. They also link SOM modulation in different connectivity regimes to versatile computations in visual processing in simple models.
Weaknesses
Computationally, the analysis is solid, but it's very similar to previous studies (del Molino et al, 2017). Many studies in the past few years have done the perturbation analysis of a similar circuitry with or without nonlinear transfer functions (some of them listed in the references). This study applies the same framework to SOM perturbations, which is a useful computational analysis, in view of the complexity of the high-dimensional parameter space.
Link to biology: the most interesting result of the paper with regard to biology is the suggestion of a regime in which gain and stability can be modulated in an unconventional way - however, it is difficult to link the results to biological networks:<br /> - A general weakness of the paper is a lack of direct comparison to biological parameters or experiments. How different experiments can be reconciled by the results obtained here, and what new circuit mechanisms can be revealed? In its current form, the paper reads as a general suggestion that different combinations of gain modulation and stability can be achieved in a circuit model equipped with many parameters (12 parameters). This is potentially interesting but not surprising, given the high dimensional space of possible dynamical properties. A more interesting result would have been to relate this to biology, by providing reasoning why it might be relevant to certain circuits (and not others), or to provide some predictions or postdictions, which are currently missing in the manuscript.<br /> - For instance, a nice motivation for the paper at the beginning of the Results section is the different results of SOM modulation in different experiments - especially between L23 (inhibition) and L4 (disinhibition). But no further explanation is provided for why such a difference should exist, in view of their results and the insights obtained from their suggested circuit mechanisms. How the parameters identified for the two regimes correspond to different properties of different layers?<br /> - One of the key assumptions of the model is nonlinear transfer functions for all neuron types. In terms of modelling and computational analysis, a thorough analysis of how and when this is necessary is missing (an analysis similar to what has been attempted in Figure 6 for synaptic weights, but for cellular gains). A discussion of this, along with the former analysis to know which nonlinearities would be necessary for the results, is needed, but currently missing from the study. The nonlinearity is assumed for all subtypes because it seems to be needed to obtain the results, but it's not clear how the model would behave in the presence or absence of them, and whether they are relevant to biological networks with inhibitory transfer functions.<br /> - Tuning curves are simulated for an individual orientation (same for all), not considering the heterogeneity of neuronal networks with multiple orientation selectivity (and other visual features) - making the model too simplistic.
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Reviewer #1 (Public review):
Summary:
In this preprint, Madrigal et al present "Tom1p ubiquitin ligase structure, interaction with Spt6p, and function in maintaining normal transcript levels and the stability of chromatin in promoters" which describes the identification of Tom1p, a conserved ubiquitin ligase, as a potential binding partner for the transcription elongation/histone chaperone Spt6p, and reveal the Tom1p structure as determined by CryoEM. Tom1p is a homolog of human HUWE1, which has been implicated in decay for a variety of basic protein substrates such as ribosomal proteins and histones. Structure-function analyses identify regions required for Spt6p interaction, suggesting that the interaction with Spt6p is phosphorylation dependent, and for interactions with histones, the latter of which confers phenotypes in vivo when mutated, suggesting that the Tom1p acidic region is important for its function. What is less clear is the function or interaction with Spt6p. The manuscript speculates that Spt6p-Tom1p interactions may tune Tom1p localization, and it is shown that Tom1p is recruited to transcribed genes by chromatin IP. In addition, the Tom1p structure will be valuable to those trying to understand the mechanisms of this very large ubiquitin ligase. Here, structures of homologs from other organisms have already been described elsewhere, however, the authors here indicate some details potentially not previously visualized in other structures.
Strengths:
It has not previously been known that the Spt6p tSH2 had any additional targets. Interaction with a ubiquitin ligase already implicated in histone turnover given Spt6p's role as histone chaperone is interesting. A structure of Tom1p also provides insight into this very large, conserved protein and structure-function analysis in a model system is a good start towards mechanistic dissection.
Weaknesses:
Some aspects of the manuscript seem less cohesive in that there are two halves of the manuscript and both don't quite solidify insights into the Spt6p relationship to Tom1p or deepen our understanding of Tom1p mechanism extensively, though results are a great start on both sides of the paper. There are several points that are less clear in that it is not known if Spt6p interacts with Tom1p and in what context. The interaction surface of Spt6p able to interact with Tom1p is the identical tSH2 that would be predicted to be occupied by phosphorylated RNAPII when Spt6p is incorporated into the RNAPII elongation complex. This means how and when Spt6p might be available to interact with Tom1p is not clear. Previous work from the Hill and Formosa groups on the tSH2 domain and its RNAPII linker target have suggested that phenotypes of mutants in the two are similar, suggesting that their main function is to interact with each other. A simple test of examining Tom1p interaction with genes in the tSH2 mutant was not done. Additionally, the Spt6p interacting surface on Tom1p is not narrowed to a specific putatively phosphorylated residue that it might target. It remains possible that mutations in other regions of Tom1p affect potential phosphorylation of this target, and therefore it is possible that some mutations that alter Spt6p interaction could do so indirectly. Finally, the authors might consider additional models for their discussion where Spt6p potentially could function to deliver histones to Tom1p.
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Reviewer #2 (Public review):
Summary:
Madrigal et al identified Tom1, a E3 ubiquitin ligase previously known to be involved in ribosome biogenesis, as a protein that binds to terminal tandem Src-homology 2 (tSH2) domain of Spt6. They mapped this interaction to the acid region of Tom1, which is also known to interact with histones. Cells with tom1 mutants that cannot bind Spt6 did not show temperature sensitive phenotypes displaced for tom1 null mutant. Using ChIP assays, they showed that Tom1 is enriched at gene bodies of highly transcribed genes, and a loss of tom1 leads to reduced nucleosomal changes at gene promoters. Finally, they also solved the structures of Tom1 lacking the acidic region and found that Tom1p can adopt a compact a-solenoidal "basket" similar to the previously described structure of HUWE1. Overall, this is an interesting study and I have the following suggestions to improve the manuscript.
Major concerns:
(1) Promoter regions are in general nucleosome free. How does Tom1 mutant affect nucleosome-sized fragments at the promoter regions?
(2) While Tom1 antibodies may not specific, could the author perform Tom1 ChIP-seq in wild type and tom 1 null cells? This dataset may be more informative than tagged Tom1 that may not be functional.
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Reviewer #3 (Public review):
Summary:
The authors report a novel, direct interaction of Spt6p tSH2 domain to Tom1p. This extends the function of Spt6p from communication with factors associated with RNAPII transcription to processes of ubiquitination. Tom1p is known to ubiquitinate a large variety of substrates, but it is unknown how substrate recognition is done in a specific manner. The team identified a conserved central acidic region of Tom1p which is essential for in vivo functions and binds to histones and nucleosomes, as well as Spt6p. They further describe the Tom1p occupancy pattern on chromatin, assigning it a stabilizing effect on nucleosomes near promotors and a destabilizing effect on nucleosomes within the gene bodies. The authors were able to resolve two different conformational states of Tom1p which are likely connected to its activity, and possibly substrate selectivity.
Overall, the authors show that an intrinsically disordered region in Tom1p is important for substrate interaction and function of Tom1p. The protein is further involved in chromatin architecture and structural transitions control its activity.
Strengths:
By revealing the interaction of Spt6p and Tom1p, the authors discover a novel connection between transcriptional elongation and processes of ubiquitination.<br /> In recent years, disordered regions of MDa protein complexes have become a focus of research projects. The effects of disordered regions on protein localization and specificity of binding interactions have been discussed in great extent, including proteins that are involved in chromatin remodeling and transcription. Adding to these current efforts, the authors assign a function to a highly conserved disordered region of Tom1p in technically clean experiments. Furthermore, with their data, they pin down a specific functional region in Tom1p which is relevant for the previously observed temperature sensitivity caused by Tom1p deletion in yeast.<br /> The team performs a thorough and complete analysis of the cryo-EM structure and they nicely model the hinge motion and details of an open and closed conformation.
Weaknesses:
Despite the high number of interesting findings, there is little connection between the individual sections of the manuscript. For example, many experiments are not related to Spt6p binding although this protein is presented as a major actor in this manuscript during the introduction. Furthermore, the structural analysis is well done, but it is also not quite clear how structural rearrangements are connected to Spt6 binding or chromatin remodeling. Some experimental results lack novelty, as similar data has previously been presented for the human homolog.
To confirm the novel, direct binding interaction of Spt6p and Tom1p, no orthogonal binding assays (SPR, MST, ITC) have been performed to confirm the interaction. To me, this is insufficient, especially since the team has purified both proteins to high quality levels, or could use peptides to test the function of the relevant regions.<br /> Additionally, interaction of Tom1p with Spt6p in the context of transcription elongation is proposed. Yet it is not clear on the mechanistic level how this is regulated if Tom1p and Rpb1p bind in a competitive manner. How is Tom1p tethered to the elongation complex if not through Spt6p? In addition to WT vs. knockout, the authors should further perform the genetic analyses with the intΔ11 mutant. This way they might be able pin down which interactions on chromatin are mediated by Spt6 vs. by other factors and could strengthen the overall model involving Spt6P.
Although the authors try to describe a final model in the discussion, this section is not easy to follow and needs more explanation, ideally drawn as a Figure of the proposed mechanism.
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Reviewer #1 (Public review):
Summary:
The aim of the experiment reported in this paper is to examine the nature of the representation of a template of an upcoming target. To this end, participants were presented with compound gratings (consisting of tilted to the right and tilted to the left lines) and were cued to a particular orientation - red left tilt or blue right tilt (counterbalanced across participants). There are two directly compared conditions: (i) no ping: where there was a cue, that was followed by a 5.5-7.5s delay, then followed by a target grating in which the cued orientation deviated from the standard 45 degrees; and (ii) ping condition in which all aspects were the same with the only difference that a ping (visual impulse presented for 100ms) was presented after the 2.5 seconds following the cue. There was also a perception task in which only the 45 degrees to the right or to the left lines were presented. It was observed that during the delay, only in the ping condition, were the authors able to decode the orientation of the to-be-reported target using the cross-task generalization. Attention decoding, on the other hand, was decoded in both ping and non-ping conditions. It is concluded that the visual system has two different functional states associated with a template during preparation: a predominantly non-sensory representation for guidance and a latent sensory-like for prospective stimulus processing.
Strengths:
There is so much to be impressed with in this report. The writing of the manuscript is incredibly clear. The experimental design is clever and innovative. The analysis is sophisticated and also innovative - the cross-task decoding, the use of Mahalanobis distance as a function of representational similarity, the fact that the question is theoretically interesting, and the excellent figures.
Weaknesses:
While I think that this is an interesting study that addresses an important theoretical question, I have several concerns about the experimental paradigm and the subsequent conclusions that can be drawn.
(1) Why was V1 separated from the rest of the visual cortex, and why the rest of the areas were simply lumped into an EVC ROI? It would be helpful to understand the separation into ROIs.
(2) It would have been helpful to have a behavioral measure of the "attended" orientation to show that participants in fact attended to a particular orientation and were faster in the cued condition. The cue here was 100% valid, so no such behavioral measure of attention is available here.
(3) As I was reading the manuscript I kept thinking that the word attention in this manuscript can be easily replaced with visual working memory. Have the authors considered what it is about their task or cognitive demand that makes this investigation about attention or working memory?
(4) If I understand correctly, the only ROI that showed a significant difference for the cross-task generalization is V1. Was it predicted that only V1 would have two functional states? It should also be made clear that the only difference where the two states differ is V1.
(5) My primary concern about the interpretation of the finding is that the result, differences in cross-task decoding within V1 between the ping and no-ping condition might simply be explained by the fact that the ping condition refocuses attention during the long delay thus "resharpening" the template. In the no-ping condition during the 5.5 to 7.5 seconds long delay, attention for orientation might start getting less "crisp." In the ping condition, however, the ping itself might simply serve to refocus attention. So, the result is not showing the difference between the latent and non-latent stages, rather it is the difference between a decaying template representation and a representation during the refocused attentional state. It is important to address this point. Would a simple tone during the delay do the same? If so, the interpretation of the results will be different.
(6) The neural pattern distances measured using Mahalanobis values are really great! Have the authors tried to use all of the data, rather than the high AMI and low AMI to possibly show a linear relationship between response times and AMI?
(7) After reading the whole manuscript I still don't understand what the authors think the ping is actually doing, mechanistically. I would have liked a more thorough discussion, rather than referencing previous papers (all by the co-author).
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Reviewer #2 (Public review):
Summary:
In the present study, the authors investigated the nature of attentional templates during the preparatory period of goal-directed attention. By combining the use of 'pinging' the neural activity with a visual impulse and fMRI-based multivariate decoding, the authors found that the nature of the neural representations of the prospective feature target during the preparatory period was contingent on the presence of the 'pinging' impulse. While the preparatory representations contained highly similar information content as the perceptual representations when the pinging impulse was introduced, they fundamentally differed from perceptual representations in the absence of the pinging impulse. Based on these findings, the authors proposed a dual-format mechanism in which both a "non-sensory" template and a latent "sensory" template coexisted during attentional preparation. The former actively guides activity in the preparatory state, and the latter is utilized for future stimulus processing.
Strengths:
Overall, I think this is an interesting study that introduced a novel perspective concerning the nature of neural representations during attentional processing. Methodologically, the present study combines an innovative utilization of the pinging technique in working memory studies and fMRI-based multivariate pattern analysis. The method is sound and the results are convincing. While I appreciate the conceptual elegance of the dual-format idea proposed by the authors, there are several questions that need to be addressed more thoroughly to clarify some of the potential ambiguities of the results and to increase the plausibility of the author's theory.
Weaknesses:
(1) The origin of the latent sensory-like representation. By 'pinging' the neural activity with a high-contrast, task-irrelevant visual stimulus during the preparation period, the authors identified the representation of the attentional feature target that contains the same information as perceptual representations. The authors interpreted this finding as a 'sensory-like' template is inherently hosted in a latent form in the visual system, which is revealed by the pinging impulse. However, I am not sure whether such a sensory-like template is essentially created, rather than revealed, by the pinging impulses. First, unlike the classical employment of the pinging technique in working memory studies, the (latent) representation of the memoranda during the maintenance period is undisputed because participants could not have performed well in the subsequent memory test otherwise. However, this appears not to be the case in the present study. As shown in Figure 1C, there was no significant difference in behavioral performance between the ping and the no-ping sessions (see also lines 110-125, pg. 5-6). In other words, it seems to me that the subsequent attentional task performance does not necessarily rely on the generation of such sensory-like representations in the preparatory period and that the emergence of such sensory-like representations does not facilitate subsequent attentional performance either. In such a case, one might wonder whether such sensory-like templates are really created, hosted, and eventually utilized during the attentional process. Second, because the reference orientations (i.e. 45 degrees and 135 degrees) have remained unchanged throughout the experiment, it is highly possible that participants implicitly memorized these two orientations as they completed more and more trials. In such a case, one might wonder whether the 'sensory-like' templates are essentially latent working memory representations activated by the pinging as was reported in Wolff et al. (2017), rather than a functional signature of the attentional process.
(2) The coexistence of the two types of attentional templates. The authors interpreted their findings as the outcome of a dual-format mechanism in which 'a non-sensory template' and a latent 'sensory-like' template coexist (e.g. lines 103-106, pg. 5). While I find this interpretation interesting and conceptually elegant, I am not sure whether it is appropriate to term it 'coexistence'. First, it is theoretically possible that there is only one representation in either session (i.e. a non-sensory template in the no-ping session and a sensory-like template in the ping session) in any of the brain regions considered. Second, it seems that there is no direct evidence concerning the temporal relationship between these two types of templates, provided that they commonly emerge in both sessions. Besides, due to the sluggish nature of fMRI data, it is difficult to tell whether the two types of templates temporally overlap.
(3) The representational distance. The authors used Mahalanobis distance to quantify the similarity of neural representation between different conditions. According to the authors' hypothesis, one would expect greater pattern similarity between 'attend leftward' and 'perceived leftward' in the ping session in comparison to the no-ping session. However, this appears not to be the case. As shown in Figures 3B and C, there was no major difference in Mahalanobis distance between the two sessions in either ROI and the authors did not report a significant main effect of the session in any of the ANOVAs. Besides, in all the ANOVAs, the authors reported only the statistic term corresponding to the interaction effect without showing the descriptive statistics related to the interaction effect. It is strongly advised that these descriptive statistics related to the interaction effect should be included to facilitate a more effective and intuitive understanding of their data.
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Reviewer #3 (Public review):
This paper discusses how non-sensory and latent, sensory-like attentional templates are represented during attentional preparation. Using multivariate pattern analysis, they found that visual impulses can enhance the decoding generalization from perception to attention tasks in the preparatory stage in the visual cortex. Furthermore, the emergence of the sensory-like template coincided with enhanced information connectivity between V1 and frontoparietal areas and was associated with improved behavioral performance. It is an interesting paper with supporting evidence for the latent, sensory-like attentional template, but several problems still need to be solved.
(1) The title is "Dual-format Attentional Template," yet the supporting evidence for the non-sensory format and its guiding function is quite weak. The author could consider conducting further generalization analysis from stimulus selection to preparation stages to explore whether additional information emerges.
(2) In Figure 2, the author did not find any decodable sensory-like coding in IPS and PFC, even during the impulse-driven session, indicating that these regions do not represent sensory-like information. However, in the final section, the author claimed that the impulse-driven sensory-like template strengthens informational connectivity between sensory and frontoparietal areas. This raises a question: how can we reconcile the lack of decodable coding in these frontoparietal regions with the reported enhancement in network communication? It would be helpful if the author provided a clearer explanation or additional evidence to bridge this gap.
(3) Given that the impulse-driven sensory-like template facilitated behavior, the author proposed that it might also enhance network communication. Indeed, they observed changes in informational connectivity. However, it remains unclear whether these changes in network communication have a direct and robust relationship with behavioral improvements.
(4) I'm uncertain about the definition of the sensory-like template in this paper. Is it referring to the Ping impulse-driven condition or the decodable performance in the early visual cortex? If it is the former, even in working memory, whether pinging identifies an activity-silent mechanism is currently debated. If it's the latter, the authors should consider whether a causal relationship - such as "activating the sensory-like template strengthens the informational connectivity between sensory and frontoparietal areas" - is reasonable.
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Joint Public Review:
Summary:
The authors aimed to identify the neural sources of behavioral variation in fruit flies deciding between odor and air, or between two odors.
Strengths:
- The question is of fundamental importance.<br /> - The behavioral studies are automated, and high-throughput.<br /> - The data analyses are sophisticated and appropriate.<br /> - The paper is clear and well-written aside from some initially strong wording.<br /> - The figures beautifully illustrate their results.<br /> - The modeling efforts mechanistically ground observed data correlations.
Weaknesses:
-The correlations between behavioral variations and neural activity/synapse morphology are relatively weak, and sometimes overstated in the wording that describes them.
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Reviewer #1 (Public review):
Summary:
Using gene deletion analysis, the authors confirm the molecular function of putative components of an N-glycan-dependent endoplasmic reticulum protein quality control (ERQC) system (UGG1, MNS1, MNS101, MNL1, and MNL2), in the basidiomycetous fungal pathogen Cryptococcus neoformans. Specifically, they confirm the essential role of these components in the ERQC system and their role in ER stress which contributes to cellular fitness and pathogenicity.
The second part of the study links the components to secretion, mainly EV biogenesis and composition. However, this part of the study is less convincing.
Strengths:
Although it is unclear why ER stress in the mutants would not manifest into a classical secretion defect, this is a rigorous, well-controlled study, with the use of complemented strains that demonstrate phenotypic restoration. The diagram in Figure 1 is very useful in orientating the reader to a complex subject matter, although the legend could be more descriptive.
Weaknesses:
A major weakness is the sheer volume of data presented (in the main text and supplement), which makes the results difficult to follow and retain: the work could essentially be two separate studies.<br /> Another major weakness is the lack of mechanistic insight into the role of the ERQC system in EV secretion and its disconnection to "classical" secretion, which is difficult to reconcile. Some insight into why EV secretion is decreased, and classical secretion is unaffected, would strengthen the significance of the findings. No mechanism is provided to explain why the ERQC mutants (Ugg1 mutant in particular) would have reduced and heterogeneously sized EVs. Furthermore, it is not convincing that the EV content changes would greatly impact fitness and virulence. The proteomics data showing reduced cargo in the Ugg1 mutant is not convincing and difficult to follow.
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Reviewer #2 (Public review):
Summary:
This study investigates the molecular function of the N-glycan-dependent endoplasmic reticulum protein quality control system (ERQC) in Cryptococcus neoformans and correlates this pathway with key features of C. neoformans virulence, especially those mediated by extracellular vesicle transport. The findings provide valuable insights into the connection between this pathway and the biogenesis of C. neoformans extracellular vesicles.
Strengths:
The strength of this study lies primarily in the careful selection of appropriate and current methodologies, which provide a solid foundation for the authors' results and conclusions across all presented data. All experiments are supported by well-designed and established controls in the study of C. neoformans, further strengthening the validity of the results and conclusions drawn from them. The study presents novel data on this important pathway in C. neoformans, establishing its connection with C. neoformans virulence. Interestingly, the findings led the authors to understand the relationship between this pathway and the transport of key fungal virulence factors via extracellular vesicles. This was demonstrated in the study, paving the way for a deeper understanding of extracellular vesicle biogenesis-a field still filled with gaps but one to which this study contributes solid data, helping to clarify aspects of this process.
Weaknesses:
I do not see significant weaknesses in this study. The experiments are well-grounded, and the results are clearly presented. I believe the only weakness is that the paper could be condensed. Sections like the discussion, for instance, are extremely lengthy, which may make reading and, consequently, understanding more challenging for many readers. Regarding the presentation of the results, while clear, the figures contain a lot of information, and I believe that some of this content could be moved to supplementary figures.
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Reviewer #3 (Public review):
Summary:
Cryptococcus neoformans is a global critical threat pathogen and the manuscript by Mota et al demonstrates that the pathogen's N-glycan-dependent protein quality control system regulates the capacity of the fungus to cause disease. The system makes sure that glycoproteins are folded correctly. The system is involved in the fitness and virulence of the fungus by regulating aspects of cellular robustness and the trafficking of virulence-associated compounds outside of the cell via transport in extracellular vesicles.
Strengths:
The investigators use multiple modalities to demonstrate that the system is involved in cryptococcal pathogenesis. The investigators generated mutant C. neoformans to explore the role of genes involved in the protein folding system. Basic microbiology, genetic analyses, proteomics, fluorescence and transmission microscopy, nanotracking analyses, and murine studies were performed. The validity of the findings are thus very high. Hypotheses are robustly demonstrated.
Weaknesses:
Aspects of the results should be better explained. Some results are extrapolated in their meaning beyond the extent of the data.
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Reviewer #1 (Public review):
Summary:
The authors have created a new model of KCNC1-related DEE in which a pathogenic patient variant (A421V) is knocked into a mouse in order to better understand the mechanisms through which KCNC1 variants lead to DEE.
Strengths:
(1) The creation of a new DEE model of KCNC1 dysfunction.
(2) InVivo phenotyping demonstrates key features of the model such as early lethality and several types of electrographic seizures.
(3) The ex vivo cellular electrophysiology is very strong and comprehensive including isolated patches to accurately measure K+ currents, paired recording to measure evoked synaptic transmission, and the measurement of membrane excitability at different time points and in two cell types.
Weaknesses:
(1) The assertion that membrane trafficking is impaired by this variant could be bolstered by additional data.
(2) In some experiments details such as the age of the mice or cortical layer are emphasized, but in others, these details are omitted.
(3) The impairments in PV neuron AP firing are quite large. This could be expected to lead to changes in PV neuron activity outside of the hypersynchronous discharges that could be detected in the 2-photon imaging experiments, however, a lack of an effect on PV neuron activity is only loosely alluded to in the text. A more formal analysis is lacking. An important question in trying to understand mechanisms underlying channelopathies like KCNC1 is how changes in membrane excitability recorded at the whole cell level manifest during ongoing activity in vivo. Thus, the significance of this work would be greatly improved if it could address this question.
(4) Myoclonic jerks and other types of more subtle epileptiform activity have been observed in control mice, but there is no mention of littermate control analyzed by EEG.
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Reviewer #2 (Public review):
Summary:
Wengert et al. generated and thoroughly characterized the developmental epileptic encephalopathy phenotype of Kcnc1A421V/+ knock-in mice. The Kcnc1 gene encodes the Kv3.1 channel subunit. Analogous to the role of BK channels in excitatory neurons, Kv3 channels are important for the recurrent high-frequency discharge in interneurons by accelerating the downward hyperpolarization of the individual action potential. Various Kcnc1 mutations are associated with developmental epileptic encephalopathy, but the effect of a recurrent A421V mutation was somewhat controversial and its influence on neuronal excitability has not been fully established. In order to determine the neurological deficits and underlying disease mechanisms, the authors generated cre-dependent KI mice and characterized them using neonatal neurological examination, high-quality in vitro electrophysiology, and in vivo imaging/electrophysiology analyses. These analyses revealed excitability defects in the PV+ inhibitory neurons associated with the emergence of epilepsy and premature death. Overall, the experimental data convincingly support the conclusion.
Strengths:
The study is well-designed and conducted at high quality. The use of the Cre-dependent KI mouse is effective for maintaining the mutant mouse line with premature death phenotype, and may also minimize the drift of phenotypes which can occur due to the use of mutant mice with minor phenotype for breeding. The neonatal behavior analysis is thoroughly conducted, and the in vitro electrophysiology studies are of high quality.
Weaknesses:
While not critically influencing the conclusion of the study, there are several concerns.
In some experiments, the age of the animal in each experiment is not clearly stated. For example, the experiments in Figure 2 demonstrate impaired K+ conductance and membrane localization, but it is not clear whether they correlated with the excitability and synaptic defects shown in subsequent figures. Similarly, it is unclear how old mice the authors conducted EEG recordings, and whether non-epileptic mice are younger than those with seizures.
The trafficking defect of mutant Kv3.1 proposed in this study is based only on the fluorescence density analysis which showed a minor change in membrane/cytosol ratio. It is not very clear how the membrane component was determined (any control staining?). In addition to fluorescence imaging, an addition of biochemical analysis will make the conclusion more convincing (while it might be challenging if the Kv3.1 is expressed only in PV+ cells).
While the study focused on the superficial layer because Kv3.1 is the major channel subunit, the PV+ cells in the deeper cortical layer also express Kv3.1 (Chow et al., 1999) and they may also contribute to the hyperexcitable phenotype via negative effect on Kv3.2; the mutant Kv3.1 may also block membrane trafficking of Kv3.1/Kv3.2 heteromers in the deeper layer PV cells and reduce their excitability. Such an additional effect on Kv3.2, if present, may explain why the heterozygous A421V KI mouse shows a more severe phenotype than the Kv3.1 KO mouse (and why they are more similar to Kv3.2 KO). Analyzing the membrane excitability differences in the deep-layer PV cells may address this possibility.
In Table 1, the A421V PV+ cells show a depolarized resting membrane potential than WT by ~5 mV which seems a robust change and would influence the circuit excitability. The authors measured firing frequency after adjusting the membrane voltage to -65mV, but are the excitability differences less significant if the resting potential is not adjusted? It is also interesting that such a membrane potential difference is not detected in young adult mice (Table 2). This loss of potential compensation may be important for developmental changes in the circuit excitability. These issues can be more explicitly discussed.
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Reviewer #3 (Public review):
Summary:
Here Wengert et al., establish a rodent model of KCNC1 (Kv3.1) epilepsy by introducing the A421V mutation. The authors perform video-EEG, slice electrophysiology, and in vivo 2P imaging of calcium activity to establish disease mechanisms involving impairment in the excitability of fast-spiking parvalbumin (PV) interneurons in the cortex and thalamic PV cells.
Outside-out nucleated patch recordings were used to evaluate the biophysical consequence of the A421V mutation on potassium currents and showed a clear reduction in potassium currents. Similarly, action potential generation in cortical PV interneurons was severely reduced. Given that both potassium currents and action potential generation were found to be unaffected in excitatory pyramidal cells in the cortex the authors propose that loss of inhibition leads to hyperexcitability and seizure susceptibility in a mechanism similar to that of Dravet Syndrome.
Strengths:
This manuscript establishes a new rodent model of KCNC1-developmental and epileptic encephalopathy. The manuscript provides strong evidence that parvabumin-type interneurons are impaired by the A421V Kv3.1 mutation and that cortical excitatory neurons are not impaired. Together these findings support the conclusion that seizure phenotypes are caused by reduced cortical inhibition.
Weaknesses:
The manuscript identifies a partial mechanism of disease that leaves several aspects unresolved including the possible role of the observed impairments in thalamic neurons in the seizure mechanism. Similarly, while the authors identify a reduction in potassium currents and a reduction in PV cell surface expression of Kv3.1 it is not clear why these impairments would lead to a more severe disease phenotype than other loss-of-function mutations which have been characterized previously. Lastly, additional analysis of video-EEG data would be helpful for interpreting the extent of the seizure burden and the nature of the seizure types caused by the mutation.
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Reviewer #1 (Public review):
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In this manuscript, Javid and colleagues worked to understand the molecular mechanisms involved in mistranslation in mycobacteria. They had previously discovered that mistranslation is an important mechanism underlying antibiotic tolerance in mycobacteria. Using a clever genetic screen they identify that deletion of gidB, a 16S ribosomal RNA methyltransferase, leads to lowered mistranslation (i.e. higher translational fidelity), but only in genetic backgrounds or environmental conditions that increase mistranslation rates.
Strengths:
The strengths of this manuscript are the clever genetic screen, the powerful mistranslation assays, and the clear writing and figures explaining a complex biological problem. Their identification of gidB as a factor important for mistranslation deepens our knowledge about this interesting phenomenon.
Weaknesses:
The structural work at the end feels like both an afterthought in terms of the science and the writing. I would suggest re-writing that section to be clearer about what the figure says and does not say. For example, the caption of Figure 6 appears to be more informative than the text and refers to concepts not present in the main text. In general, I found this section to be the most difficult to understand.
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Reviewer #2 (Public review):
Summary:
Protein synthesis - translation - involves repeated recognition and incorporation of amino-acyl-tRNAs by the ribosome. This process is a trade-off between the rate and accuracy of selection (for review see (Johansson et al, 2008; Wohlgemuth et al, 2011)). The ribosome does not just maximise the rate or the accuracy, it balances the two. Therefore, it is possible to select mutants that translate faster than the wt (but are sloppy) or that are very accurate (more than the wt) but translate slower. Slow translation is detrimental as it limits the rate of protein synthesis (and, therefore, growth) and hyper-accurate mutants accumulate mis-translated proteins, which is detrimental for the cell.
Bi and colleagues employ genetics, MIC measurements, reporter assays, and structural biology to characterise the role of GidB rRNA methylase in translational accuracy in Mycobacterium smegmatis.
Strengths:
The genetics and phenotypic assays are convincing and establish the biological role of the methylase. The authors use a powerful set of complementary assays that convincingly demonstrate that the loss of GidB results in mistranslation.
Weaknesses:
(1) It would be essential to provide information regarding the growth rate and, ideally, translation rates in the gidB KO and the isogenic WT. As translation balances accuracy and speed, only characterising the speed is not sufficient to understand the phenomenon.
(2) Cryo-EM analysis of vacant 70S ribosomes is not sufficient for understanding the mechanisms underlying the accuracy defects in the gidB KO. One should assemble and solve structurally near-cognate and non-cognate complexes. I believe the authors are over-interpreting the scant structural data they have. Furthermore, current representation makes it impossible to assess the resolution of the structure, especially in the areas of interest.
References:
Johansson M, Lovmar M, Ehrenberg M (2008) Rate and accuracy of bacterial protein synthesis revisited. Curr Opin Microbiol 11: 141-147<br /> Wohlgemuth I, Pohl C, Mittelstaet J, Konevega AL, Rodnina MV (2011) Evolutionary optimization of speed and accuracy of decoding on the ribosome. Philos Trans R Soc Lond B Biol Sci 366: 2979-2986.
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Reviewer #1 (Public review):
Summary:
In this manuscript the authors follow up on their published observation that providing a lower glucose parental nutrition (PN) reduces sepsis from a common pathogen [Staphylococcus epidermitis (SE)] in preterm piglets. Here they found that a slightly higher dose of glucose could thread the needle and get the protective effects of low glucose without incurring significant hypoglycemia. They then investigate whether change in low glucose PN impacts metabolism to confer this benefit. The finding that lower glucose reduces sepsis is important as sepsis is a major cause of morbidity and mortality in preterm infants, and adjusting PN composition is a feasible intervention.
Strengths:
(1) They address a highly significant problem of neonatal sepsis in preterm infants using a preterm piglet model.<br /> (2) They have compelling data in this paper (and in a previous publication, ref 27) that low glucose PN confers a survival advantage. A downside of the low glucose PN is hypoglycemia which they mitigate in this paper by using a slightly high amount of glucose in the PN.<br /> (3) The experiment where they change PN from high to low glucose after infection is very important to determine if this approach might be used clinically. Unfortunately, this did not show an ability to reduce sepsis risk with this approach.<br /> (4) They produce an impressive multiomics data set from this model of preterm piglet sepsis which is likely to provide additional insights into the pathogenesis of preterm neonatal sepsis.
Weaknesses:
(1) Piglets on the low glucose PN had consistently lower density of SE (~1 log) across all timepoints. This may be due to changes in immune response leading to better clearance or it could be due to slower growth in lower glucose environment. These possibilities are not fully disentangled in this study.
(2) Many differences in the different omics (transcriptomics, metabolomics, proteomics) were identified in the SE-LOW vs SE-HIGH comparison. Since the bacterial load is very different between these conditions, could the changes be due to bacterial load rather than metabolic reprograming from the low glucose PN? The authors argue in supplementary figure 1F that density of SE in blood does not correlate with sepsis implying that bacterial load is not the driver of outcome. The authors recently published some additional analysis that may be helpful to reference in this manuscript.
(3) Further, expanding upon a model to better understand the complex relationship between differences in supplemental glucose infusion, blood glucose levels, bacterial load, host responses and how they impact the development of sepsis would be helpful. These complex relationships are difficult to fully disentangle, but one could consider infusing the same quantity of heat-killed bacteria under different glucose conditions to see if the glucose levels drive outcomes independently of bacterial burden.
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Reviewer #2 (Public review):
The authors demonstrate that a low parenteral glucose regimen can lead to improved bacterial clearance and survival from Staph epi sepsis in newborn pigs without inducing hypoglycemia, as compared to a high glucose regimen. Using RNA-seq, metabolomic, and proteomic data, the authors conclude that this is primarily mediated by altered hepatic metabolism.
The authors have addressed the concerns raised by the reviewers in their revised manuscript and have added additional information in the results and discussion part.<br /> Please address in Fig. 3- the genes PGM2 and GCK, which the authors mention, are downregulated in SE-Low compared to SE-high, but these are actually less downregulated in the SE group compared to Control group, where the the Con-low shows even more decrease in these genes compared to Con-high. So if anything, these genes are getting upregulated by infection.
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Reviewer #1 (Public review):
Summary:
In this work, Harpring et al. investigated divisome assembly in Chlamydia trachomatis serovar L2 (Ct), an obligate intracellular bacterium that lacks FtsZ, the canonical master regulator of bacterial cell division. They find that divisome assembly is initiated by the protein FtsK in Ct by showing that it forms discrete foci at the septum and future division sites. Additionally, knocking down ftsK prevents divisome assembly and inhibits cell division, further supporting their hypothesis that FtsK regulates divisome assembly. Finally, they show that MreB is one of the last chlamydial divisome proteins to arrive at the site of division and is necessary for the formation of septal peptidoglycan rings but does not act as a scaffold for division assembly as previously proposed.
Strengths:
The authors use microscopy to clearly show that FtsK forms foci both at the septum as well as at the base of the progenitor cell where the next septum will form. They also show that the Ct proteins PBP2, PBP3, MreC, and MreB localize to these same sites suggesting they are involved in the divisome complex.
Using CRISPRi the authors knock down ftsK and find that most cells are no longer able to divide and that PBP2 and PBP3 no longer localized to sites of division suggesting that FtsK is responsible for initiating divisome assembly. They also performed a knockdown of pbp2 using the same approach and found that this also mostly inhibited cell division. Additionally, FtsK was still able to localize in this strain, however PBP3 did not, suggesting that FtsK acts upstream of PBP2 in the divisome assembly process while PBP2 is responsible for the localization of PBP3.
The authors also find that performing a knockdown of ftsK also prevents new PG synthesis further supporting the idea that FtsK regulates divisome assembly. They also find that inhibiting MreB filament formation using A22 results in diffuse PG, suggesting that MreB filament formation is necessary for proper PG synthesis to drive cell division.
Overall the authors propose a new hypothesis for divisome assembly in an organism that lacks FtsZ and use a combination of microscopy and genetics to support their model that is rigorous and convincing. The finding that FtsK, rather than a cytoskeletal or "scaffolding" protein is the first division protein to localize to the incipient division site is unexpected and opens up a host of questions about its regulation. The findings will progress our understanding of how cell division is accomplished in bacteria with non-canonical cell wall structure and/or that lack FtsZ.
Weaknesses:
No major weaknesses were noted in the data supporting the main conclusions. However, there was a claim of novelty in showing that multiple divisome complexes can drive cell wall synthesis simultaneously that was not well-supported (i.e. this has been shown previously in other organisms). In addition, there were minor weaknesses in data presentation that do not substantially impact interpretation (e.g. presenting the number of cells rather than the percentage of the population when quantifying phenotypes and showing partial western blots instead of total western blots).
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Reviewer #2 (Public review):
Summary:
Chlamydial cell division is a peculiar event, whose mechanism was mysterious for many years. C. trachomatis division was shown to be polar and involve a minimal divisome machinery composed of both homologues of divisome and elongasome components, in the absence of an homologue of the classical division organizer FtsZ. In this paper, Harpring et al., show that FtsK is required at an early stage of the chlamydial divisome formation.
Strengths:
The manuscript is well-written and the results are convincing. Quantification of divisome component localization is well performed, number of replicas and number of cells assessed are sufficient to get convincing data. The use of a CRISPRi approach to knock down some divisome components is an asset and allows a mechanistic understanding of the hierarchy of divisome components.
Weaknesses:
The authors did not analyse the role of all potential chlamydial divisome components and did not show how FtsK may initiate the positioning of the divisome. Their conclusion that FtsK initiates the assembly of the divisome is an overinterpretation and is not backed by the data. However, data show convincingly that FtsK, if perhaps not the initiator of chlamydial division, is definitely an early and essential component of the chlamydial divisome.
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Reviewer #3 (Public review):
Summary:
The obligate intracellular bacterium Chlamydia trachomatis (Ct) divides by binary fission. It lacks FtsZ, but still has many other proteins that regulate the synthesis of septal peptidoglycan, including FtsW and FtsI (PBP3) as well as divisome proteins that recruit and activate them, such as FtsK and FtsQLB. Interestingly, MreB is also required for the division of Ct cells, perhaps by polymerizing to form an FtsZ-like scaffold. Here, Harpring et al. show that MreB does not act early in division and instead is recruited to a protein complex that includes FtsK and PBP2/PBP3. This indicates that Ct cell division is organized by a chimera between conserved divisome and elongasome proteins. Their work also shows convincingly that FtsK is the earliest known step of divisome activity, potentially nucleating the divisome as a single protein complex at the future division site. This is reminiscent of the activity of FtsZ, yet fundamentally different.
Strengths:
The study is very well written and presented, and the data are convincing and rigorous. The data underlying the proposed localization dependency order of the various proteins for cell division is well justified by several different approaches using small molecule inhibitors, knockdowns, and fluorescent protein fusions. The proposed dependency pathway of divisome assembly is consistent with the data and with a novel mechanism for MreB in septum synthesis in Ct.
Weaknesses:
The paper could be improved by including more information about FtsK, the "focus" of this study. For example, if FtsK really is the FtsZ-like nucleator of the Ct divisome, how is the Ct FtsK different sequence-wise or structurally from FtsK of, e.g. E. coli? Is the N-terminal part of FtsK sufficient for cell division in Ct like it is in E. coli, or is the DNA translocase also involved in focus formation or localization? Addressing those questions would put the proposed initiator role of FtsK in Ct in a better context and make the conclusions more attractive to a wider readership.
Another weakness is that the title of the paper implies that FtsK alone initiates divisome assembly. However, the data indicate only that FtsK is important at an early stage of divisome assembly, not that it is THE initiator. I suggest modifying the title to account for this--perhaps "FtsK is required to initiate....".
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Reviewer #1 (Public review):
Summary:
This manuscript uses molecular dynamics simulations to understand how forces felt by the intracellular domain are coupled to the opening of the mechanosensitive ion channel NOMPC. The concept is interesting - as the only clearly defined example of an ion channel that opens due to forces on a tethered domain, the mechanism by which this occurs is yet to be fully elucidated. The main finding is that twisting of the transmembrane portion of the protein - specifically via the TRP domain that is conserved within the broad family of channels- is required to open the pore. That this could be a common mechanism utilised by a wide range of channels in the family, not just mechanically gated ones, makes the result significant. It is intriguing to consider how different activating stimuli can produce a similar activating motion within this family. However, the support for the finding can be strengthened as the authors cannot yet exclude that other forces could open the channel if given longer or at different magnitudes. In addition, they do not see the full opening of the channel, only an initial dilation. Even if we accept that twist is essential for this, it may be that it is not sufficient for full opening, and other stimuli are required.
Strengths:
Demonstrating that rotation of the TRP domain is the essential requirement for channel opening would have significant implications for other members of this channel family.
Weaknesses:
The manuscript centres around 3 main computational experiments. In the first, a compression force is applied on a truncated intracellular domain and it is shown that this creates both a membrane normal (compression) and membrane parallel (twisting) force on the TRP domain. This is a point that was demonstrated in the authors' prior eLife paper - so the point here is to quantify these forces for the second experiment.
The second experiment is the most important in the manuscript. In this, forces are applied directly to two residues on the TRP domain with either a membrane normal (compression) or membrane parallel (twisting) direction, with the magnitude and directions chosen to match that found in the first experiment. Only the twisting force is seen to widen the pore in the triplicate simulations, suggesting that twisting, but not compression can open the pore. This result is intriguing and there appears to be a significant difference between the dilation of pore with the two force directions. However, there are two caveats to this conclusion. Firstly, is the magnitude of the forces - the twist force is larger than the applied normal force to match the result of experiment 1. However, it is possible that compression could also open the pore at the same magnitude or if given longer. It may be that twist acts faster or more easily, but I feel it is not yet possible to say it is the key and exclude the possibility that compression could do something similar. I also note that when force was applied to the AR domain in experiment 1, the pore widened more quickly than with the twisting force alone, suggesting that compression is doing something to assist with opening. Given that the forces are likely to be smaller in physiological conditions it could still be critical to have both twist and compression present. As this is the central aspect of the study, I believe that examining how the channel responds to different force magnitudes could strengthen the conclusions and recommend additional simulations be done to examine this.
The second important consideration is that the study never sees a full pore opening, but rather a widening that is less than that seen in open state structures of other TRP channels and insufficient for rapid ion currents. This is something the authors acknowledge in their prior manuscript in eLife 2021. While this may simply be due to the limited timescale of the simulations, it needs to be clearly stated as a caveat to the conclusions. Twist may be the key to getting this dilation, but we don't know if it is the key to full pore opening. To demonstrate that the observed dilation is a first step in pore opening, then a structural comparison to open-state TRP channels would be beneficial to provide evidence that this motion is along the expected pathway of channel gating.
Experiment three considers the intracellular domain and determines the link between compression and twisting of the intracellular AR domain. In this case, the end of the domain is twisted and it is shown that the domain compresses, the converse to the similar study previously done by the authors in which compression of the domain was shown to generate torque. While some additional analysis is provided on the inter-residue links that help generate this, this is less significant than the critical second experiment.
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Reviewer #2 (Public review):
This study uses all-atom MD simulation to explore the mechanics of channel opening for the NOMPC mechanosensitive channel. Previously the authors used MD to show that external forces directed along the long axis of the protein (normal to the membrane) result in AR domain compression and channel opening. This force causes two changes to the key TRP domains adjacent to the channel gate: 1) a compressive force pushes the TRP domain along the membrane normal, while 2) a twisting torque induces a clock-wise rotation on the TRP domain helix when viewing the bottom of the channel from the cytoplasm. Here, the authors wanted to understand which of those two changes is responsible for increasing the inner pore radius, and they show that it is the torque. The simulations in Figure 2 probe this question with different forces, and we can see the pore open with parallel forces in the membrane, but not with the membrane-normal forces. I believe this result as it is reproducible, the timescales are reaching 1 microsecond, and the gate is clearly increasing diameter to about 4 Ã…. This seems to be the most important finding in the paper, but the impact is limited since the authors already show how forces lead to channel opening, and this is further teasing apart the forces and motions that are actually the ones that cause the opening.
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Reviewer #3 (Public review):
Summary:
This manuscript by Duan and Song interrogates the gating mechanisms and specifically force transmission in mechanosensitive NOMPC channels using steered molecular dynamics simulations. They propose that the ankyrin spring can transmit force to the gate through torsional forces adding molecular detail to the force transduction pathways in this channel.
3. Constant velocity or constant force<br /> For the SMD the authors write "and a constant velocity or constant force". It's unclear from this reviewer's perspective what is used to generate the simulation data.
Strengths:
Detailed, rigorous simulations coupled with a novel model for force transduction.
Weaknesses:
Experimental validation of reduced mechanosensitivity through mutagenesis of proposed ankyrin/TRP domain coupling interactions would greatly enhance the manuscript. I have some additional questions documented below:
(1) The membrane-parallel torsion force can open NOMPC<br /> How does the TRP domain interact with the S4-S5 linker? In the original structural studies, the coordination of lipids in this region seems important for gating. In this manner does the TRP domain and S4-S5 linker combined act like an amphipathic helix as suggested first for MscL (Bavi et al., 2016 Nature Communications) and later identified in many MS channels (Kefauver et al., 2020 Nature).
(2) Torsional forces on shorter ankyrin repeats of mammalian TRP channels<br /> Is it possible torsional forces applied to the shorter ankyrin repeats of mammalian TRPs may also convey force in a similar manner?
(3) Constant velocity or constant force<br /> For the SMD the authors write "and a constant velocity or constant force". It's unclear from this reviewer's perspective which is used to generate the simulation data.
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Reviewer #1 (Public review):
The manuscript examines the role of Naa10 in cKO animals, in immortalized neurons, and in primary neurons. Given that Naa10 mutations in humans produce defects in nervous system function, the authors used various strategies to try to find a relevant neuronal phenotype and its potential molecular mechanism.
This work contains valuable findings that suggest that the depletion of Naa10 from CA1 neurons in mice exacerbates anxiety-like behaviors. Using neuronal-derived cell lines authors establish a link between N-acetylase activity, Btbd3 binding to CapZb, and F-actin, ultimately impinging on neurite extension. The evidence demonstrating this is in most cases incomplete, since some key controls are missing and clearly described or simply because claims are not supported by the data. The manuscript also contains biochemical, co-immunoprecipitation, and proteomic data that will certainly be of value to our knowledge of the effects of protein N--acetylation in neuronal development and function.
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Reviewer #2 (Public review):
In this study, the authors sought to elucidate the neural mechanisms underlying the role of Naa10 in neurodevelopmental disruptions with a focus on its role in the hippocampus. The authors use an impressive array of techniques to identify a chain of events that occurs in the signaling pathway starting from Naa10 acetylating Btbd3 to regulation of F-actin dynamics that are fundamental to neurite outgrowth. They provide convincing evidence that Naa10 acetylates Btbd3, that Btbd3 facilitates CapZb binding to F-actin in a Naa10 acetylation-dependent manner, and that this CapZb binding to F-actin is key to neurite outgrowth. Besides establishing this signaling pathway, the authors contribute novel lists of Naa10 and Btbd3 interacting partners, which will be useful for future investigations into other mechanisms of action of Naa10 or Btbd3 through alternative cell signaling pathways. The evidence presented for an anxiety-like behavioral phenotype as a result of Naa10 dysfunction is mixed and tenuous, and assays for the primary behaviors known to be altered by Naa10 mutations in humans were not tested. As such, behavioral findings and their translational implications should be interpreted with caution. Finally, while not central to the main cell signaling pathway delineated, the characterization of brain region-specific and cell maturity of Naa10 expression patterns was presented in few to single animals and not quantified, and as such should also be interpreted with caution. On a broader level, these findings have implications for neurodevelopment and potentially, although not tested here, synaptic plasticity in adulthood, which means this novel pathway may be fundamental for brain health.
Summarized list of minor concerns
(1) The early claims of the manuscript are supported by very small sample sizes (often 1-3) and/or lack of quantification, particularly in Figures S1 and 1.
(2) Evidence is insufficient for CA1-specific knockdown of Naa10.
(3) The relationship between the behaviors measured, which centered around mood, and Ogden syndrome, was not clear, and likely other behavioral measures would be more translationally relevant for this study. Furthermore, the evidence for an anxiety-like phenotype was mixed.
(4) Btbd3 is characterized by the authors as an OCD risk gene, but its status as such is not well supported by the most recent, better-powered genome-wide association studies than the one that originally implicated Btbd3. However, there is evidence that Btbd3 expression, including selectively in the hippocampus, is implicated in OCD-relevant behaviors in mice.
(5) The reporting of the statistics lacks sufficient detail for the reader to deduce how experimental replicates were defined.
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Reviewer #1 (Public review):
Summary:
In "Drift in Individual Behavioral Phenotype as a Strategy for Unpredictable Worlds," Maloney et al. (2024) investigate changes in individual responses over time, referred to as behavioral drift within the lifespan of an animal. Drift, as defined in the paper, complements stable behavioral variation (animal individuality/personality within a lifetime) over shorter timeframes, which the authors associate with an underlying bet-hedging strategy. The third timeframe of behavioral variability that the authors discuss occurs within seasons (across several generations of some insects), termed "adaptive tracking." This division of "adaptive" behavioral variability over different timeframes is intuitively logical and adds valuable depth to the theoretical framework concerning the ecological role of individual behavioral differences in animals.
Strengths:
While the theoretical foundations of the study are strong, the connection between the experimental data (Figure 1) and the modeling work (Figure 2-4) is less convincing.
Weaknesses:
In the experimental data (Figure 1), the authors describe the changes in behavioral preferences over time. While generally plausible, I identify three significant issues with the experiments:
(1) All of the subsequent theoretical/simulation data is based on changing environments, yet all the experiments are conducted in unchanging environments. While this may suffice to demonstrate the phenomenon of behavioral instability (drift) over time, it does not properly link to the theory-driven work in changing environments. An experiment conducted in a changing environment and its effects on behavioral drift would improve the manuscript's internal consistency and clarify some points related to (3) below.
(2) The temporal aspect of behavioral instability. While the analysis demonstrates behavioral instability, the temporal dynamics remain unclear. It would be helpful for the authors to clarify (based on graphs and text) whether the behavioral changes occur randomly over time or follow a pattern (e.g., initially more right turns, then more left turns). A proper temporal analysis and clearer explanations are currently missing from the manuscript.
(3) The temporal dimension leads directly into the third issue: distinguishing between drift and learning (e.g., line 56). In the neutral stimuli used in the experimental data, changes should either occur randomly (drift) or purposefully, as in a neutral environment, previous strategies do not yield a favorable outcome. For instance, the animal might initially employ strategy A, but if no improvement in the food situation occurs, it later adopts strategy B (learning). In changing environments, this distinction between drift and learning should be even more pronounced (e.g., if bananas are available, I prefer bananas; once they are gone, I either change my preference or face negative consequences). Alternatively, is my random choice of grapes the substrate for the learning process towards grapes in a changing environment? Further clarification is needed to resolve these potential conflicts.
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Reviewer #2 (Public review):
Summary:
This is an inspired study that merges the concept of individuality with evolutionary processes to uncover a new strategy that diversifies individual behavior that is also potentially evolutionarily adaptive.
The authors use a time-resolved measurement of spontaneous, innate behavior, namely handedness or turn bias in individual, isogenic flies, across several genetic backgrounds.
They find that an individual's behavior changes over time, or drifts. This has been observed before, but what is interesting here is that by looking at multiple genotypes, the authors find the amount of drift is consistent within genotype i.e., genetically regulated, and thus not entirely stochastic. This is not in line with what is known about innate, spontaneous behaviors. Normally, fluctuations in behavior would be ascribed to a response to environmental noise. However, here, the authors go on to find what is the pattern or rule that determines the rate of change of the behavior over time within individuals. Using modeling of behavior and environment in the context of evolutionarily important timeframes such as lifespan or reproductive age, they could show when drift is favored over bet-hedging and that there is an evolutionary purpose to behavioral drift. Namely, drift diversifies behaviors across individuals of the same genotype within the timescale of lifespan, so that the genotype's chance for expressing beneficial behavior is optimally matched with potential variation of environment experienced prior to reproduction. This ultimately increases the fitness of the genotype. Because they find that behavioral drift is genetically variable, they argue it can also evolve.
Strengths:
Unlike most studies of individuality, in this study, the authors consider the impact of individuality on evolution. This is enabled by the use of multiple natural genetic backgrounds and an appropriately large number of individuals to come to the conclusions presented in the study. I thought it was really creative to study how individual behavior evolves over multiple timescales. And indeed this approach yielded interesting and important insight into individuality. Unlike most studies so far, this one highlights that behavioral individuality is not a static property of an individual, but it dynamically changes. Also, placing these findings in the evolutionary context was beneficial. The conclusion that individual drift and bet-hedging are differently favored over different timescales is, I think, a significant and exciting finding.
Overall, I think this study highlights how little we know about the fundamental, general concepts behind individuality and why behavioral individuality is an important trait. They also show that with simple but elegant behavioral experiments and appropriate modeling, we could uncover fundamental rules underlying the emergence of individual behavior. These rules may not at all be apparent using classical approaches to studying individuality, using individual variation within a single genotype or within a single timeframe.
Weaknesses:
I am unconvinced by the claim that serotonin neuron circuits regulate behavioral drift, especially because of its bidirectional effect and lack of relative results for other neuromodulators. Without testing other neuromodulators, it will remain unclear if serotonin intervention increases behavioral noise within individuals, or if any other pharmacological or genetic intervention would do the same. Another issue is that the amount of drugs that the individuals ingested was not tracked. Variable amounts can result in variable changes in behavior that are more consistent with the interpretation of environmental plasticity, rather than behavioral drift. With the current evidence presented, individual behavior may change upon serotonin perturbation, but this does not necessarily mean that it changes or regulates drift.
However, I think for the scope of this study, finding out whether serotonin regulates drift or not is less important. I understand that today there is a strong push to find molecular and circuit mechanisms of any behavior, and other peers may have asked for such experiments, perhaps even simply out of habit. Fortunately, the main conclusions derived from behavioral data across multiple genetic backgrounds and the modeling are anyway novel, interesting, and in fact more fundamental than showing if it is serotonin that does it or not.
To this point, one thing that was unclear from the methods section is whether genotypes that were tested were raised in replicate vials and how was replication accounted for in the analyses. This is a crucial point - the conclusion that genotypes have different amounts of behavioral drift cannot be drawn without showing that the difference in behavioral drift does not stem from differences in developmental environment.
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Reviewer #3 (Public review):
Summary:
The paper begins by analyzing the drift in individual behavior over time. Specifically, it quantifies the circling direction of freely walking flies in an arena. The main takeaway from this dataset is that while flies exhibit an individual turning bias (when averaged over time), their preferences fluctuate over slow timescales.
To understand whether genetic or neuromodulatory mechanisms influence the drift in individual preference, the authors test different fly strains concluding that both genetic background and the neuromodulator serotonin contribute to the degree of drift.
Finally, the authors use theoretical approaches to identify the range of environmental conditions under which drift in individual bias supports population growth.
Strengths:
The model provides a clear prediction of the environmental fluctuations under which a drift in bias should be beneficial for population growth.
The approach attempts to identify genetic and neurophysiological mechanisms underlying drift in bias.
Weaknesses:
Different behavioral assays are used and are differently analysed, with little discussion on how these behaviors and analyses compare to each other.
Some of the model assumptions should be made more explicit to better understand which aspects of the behaviors are covered.
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Reviewer #1 (Public review):
Zhu and colleagues used high-density Neuropixel probes to perform laminar recordings in V1 while presenting either small stimuli that stimulated the classical receptive field (CRF) or large stimuli whose border straddled the RF to provide nonclassical RF (nCRF) stimulation. Their main question was to understand the relative contribution of feedforward (FF), feedback (FB), and horizontal circuits to border ownership (Bown), which they addressed by measuring cross-correlation across layers. They found differences in cross-correlation between feedback/horizontal (FH) and input layers during CRF and nCRF stimulation.
Although the data looks high quality and analyses look mostly fine, I had a lot of difficulty understanding the logic in many places. Examples of my concerns are written below.
(1) What is the main question? The authors refer to nCRF stimulation emerging from either feedback from higher areas or horizontal connections from within the same area (e.g. lines 136 to 138 and again lines 223-232). I initially thought that the study would aim to distinguish between the two. However, the way the authors have clubbed the layers in 3D, the main question seems to be whether Bown is FF or FH (i.e., feedback and horizontal are clubbed). Is this correct? If so, I don't see the logic, since I can't imagine Bown to be purely FF. Thus, just showing differences between CRF stimulation (which is mainly expected to be FF) and nCRF stimulation is not surprising to me.
(2) Choice of layers for cross-correlation analysis: In the Introduction, and also in Figure 3C, it is mentioned that FF inputs arrive in 4C and 6, while FB/Horizontal inputs arrive at "superficial" and "deep", which I take as layer 2/3 and 5. So it is not clear to me why (i) layer 4A/B is chosen for analysis for Figure 3D (I would have thought layer 6 should have been chosen instead) and (ii) why Layers 5 and 6 are clubbed.
(3) Addressing the main question using cross-correlation analysis: I think the nice peaks observed in Figure 3B for some pairs show how spiking in one neuron affects the spiking in another one, with the delay in cross-correlation function arising from the conduction delay. This is shown nicely during CRF stimulation in Figure 3D between 4C -> 2/3, for example. However, the delay (positive or negative) is constrained by anatomical connectivity. For example, unless there are projections from 2/3 back to 4C which causes firing in a 2/3 layer neuron to cause a spike in a layer 4 neuron, we cannot expect to get a negative delay no matter what kind of stimulation (CRF versus nCRF) is used.
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Reviewer #2 (Public review):
Summary:
The authors present a study of how modulatory activity from outside the classical receptive field (cRF) differs from cRF stimulation. They study neural activity across the different layers of V1 in two anesthetized monkeys using Neuropixels probes. The monkeys are presented with drifting gratings and border-ownership tuning stimuli. They find that border-ownership tuning is organized into columns within V1, which is unexpected and exciting, and that the flow of activity from cell-to-cell (as judged by cross-correlograms between single units) is influenced by the type of visual stimulus: border-ownership tuning stimuli vs. drifting-grating stimuli.
Strengths:
The questions addressed by the study are of high interest, and the use of Neuropixels probes yields extremely high numbers of single-units and cross-correlation histograms (CCHs) which makes the results robust. The study is well-described.
Weaknesses:
The weaknesses of the study are (a) the use of anesthetized animals, which raises questions about the nature of the modulatory signal being measured and the underlying logic of why a change in visual stimulus would produce a reversal in information flow through the cortical microcircuit and (b) the choice of visual stimuli, which do not uniquely isolate feedforward from feedback influences.
(1) The modulation latency seems quite short in Figure 2C. Have the authors measured the latency of the effect in the manuscript and how it compares to the onset of the visually driven response? It would be surprising if the latency was much shorter than 70ms given previous measurements of BO and figure-ground modulation latency in V2 and V1. On the same note, it might be revealing to make laminar profiles of the modulation (i.e. preferred - non-preferred border orientation) as it develops over time. Does the modulation start in feedback recipient layers?
(2) Can the authors show the average time course of the response elicited by preferred and non-preferred border ownership stimuli across all significant neurons?
(3) The logic of assuming that cRF stimulation should produce the opposite signal flow to border-ownership tuning stimuli is worth discussing. I suspect the key difference between stimuli is that they used drifting gratings as the cRF stimulus, the movement of the stimulus continually refreshes the retinal image, leading to continuous feedforward dominance of the signals in V1. Had they used a static grating, the spiking during the sustained portion of the response might also show more influence of feedback/horizontal connections. Do the initial spikes fired in response to the border-ownership tuning stimuli show the feedforward pattern of responses? The authors state that they did not look at cross-correlations during the initial response, but if they do, do they see the feedforward-dominated pattern? The jitter CCH analysis might suffice in correcting for the response transient.
(4) The term "nCRF stimulation" is not appropriate because the CRF is stimulated by the light/dark edge.
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Reviewer #3 (Public review):
Summary:
The paper by Zhu et al is on an important topic in visual neuroscience, the emergence in the visual cortex of signals about figures and ground. This topic also goes by the name border ownership. The paper utilizes modern recording techniques very skillfully to extend what is known about border ownership. It offers new evidence about the prevalence of border ownership signals across different cortical layers in V1 cortex. Also, it uses pairwise cross-correlation to study signal flow under different conditions of visual stimulation that include the border ownership paradigm.
Strengths:
The paper's strengths are its use of multi-electrode probes to study border ownership in many neurons simultaneously across the cortical layers in V1, and its innovation of using cross-correlation between cortical neurons -- when they are viewing border-ownership patterns or instead are viewing grating patterns restricted to the classical receptive field (CRF).
Weaknesses:
The paper's weaknesses are its largely incremental approach to the study of border ownership and the lack of a critical analysis of the cross-correlation data. The paper as it is now does not advance our understanding of border ownership; it mainly confirms prior work, and it does not challenge or revise consensus beliefs about mechanisms. However, it is possible that, in the rich dataset the authors have obtained, they do possess data that could be added to the paper to make it much stronger.
Critique:
The border ownership data on V1 offered in the paper replicates experimental results obtained by Zhou and von der Heydt (2000) and confirms the earlier results using the same analysis methods as Zhou. The incremental addition is that the authors found border ownership in all cortical layers extending Zhou's results that were only about layer 2/3.
The cross-correlation results show that the pattern of the cross-correlogram (CCG) is influenced by the visual pattern being presented. However, the results are not analyzed mechanistically, and the interpretation is unclear. For instance, the authors show in Figure 3 (and in Figure S2) that the peak of the CCG can indicate layer 2/3 excites layer 4C when the visual stimulus is the border ownership test pattern, a large square 8 deg on a side. But how can layer 2/3 excite layer 4C? The authors do not raise or offer an answer to this question. Similar questions arise when considering the CCG of layer 4A/B with layer 2/3. What is the proposed pathway for layer 2/3 to excite 4A/B? Other similar questions arise for all the interlaminar CCG data that are presented. What known functional connections would account for the measured CCGs?
The problems in understanding the CCG data are indirectly caused by the lack of a critical analysis of what is happening in the responses that reveal the border ownership signals, as in Figure 2. Let's put it bluntly - are border ownership signals excitatory or inhibitory? The reason I raise this question is that the present authors insightfully place border ownership as examples of the action of the non-classical receptive field (nCRF) of cortical cells. Most previous work on the nCRF (many papers cited by the authors) reveal the nCRF to be inhibitory or suppressive. In order to know whether nCRF signals are excitatory or inhibitory, one needs a baseline response from the CRF, so that when you introduce nCRF signals you can tell whether the change with respect to the CRF is up or down. As far as I know, prior work on border ownership has not addressed this question, and the present paper doesn't either. This is where the rich dataset that the present authors possess might be used to establish a fundamental property of border ownership.
Then we must go back to consider what the consequences of knowing the sign of the border ownership signal would mean for interpreting the CCG data. If the border ownership signals from extrastriate feedback or, alternatively, from horizontal intrinsic connections, are excitatory, they might provide a shared excitatory input to pairs of cells that would show up in the CCG as a peak at 0 delay. However, if the border ownership manuscript signals are inhibitory, they might work by exciting only inhibitory neurons in V1. This could have complicated consequences for the CCG. The interpretation of the CCG data in the present version of the m is unclear (see above). Perhaps a clearer interpretation could be developed once the authors know better what the border ownership signals are.
My critique of the CCG analysis applies to Figure 5 also. I cannot comprehend the point of showing a very weak correlation of CCG asymmetry with Border Ownership Index, especially when what CCG asymmetry means is unclear mechanistically. Figure 5 does not make the paper stronger in my opinion.
In Figure 3, the authors show two CCGs that involve 4C--4C pairs. It would be nice to know more about such pairs. If there are any 6--6 pairs, what they look like also would be interesting. The authors also in Figure 3 show CCG's of two 4C--4A/B pairs and it would be quite interesting to know how such CCGs behave when CRF and nCRF stimuli are compared. In other words, the authors have shown us they have many data but have chosen not to analyze them further or to explain why they chose not to analyze them. It might help the paper if the authors would present all the CCG types they have. This suggestion would be helpful when the authors know more about the sign of border ownership signals, as discussed at length above.
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Reviewer #1 (Public review):
The paper by Fournier et al. investigates the sensitivity of neural circuits to changes in intrinsic and synaptic conductances. The authors use models of the stomatogastric ganglion (STG) to compare how perturbations to intrinsic and synaptic parameters impact network robustness. Their main finding is that changes to intrinsic conductances tend to have a larger impact on network function than changes to synaptic conductances, suggesting that intrinsic parameters are more critical for maintaining circuit function.
The paper is well-written and the results are compelling, but I have several concerns that need to be addressed to strengthen the manuscript. Specifically, I have two main concerns:<br /> (1) It is not clear from the paper what the mechanism is that leads to the importance of intrinsic parameters over synaptic parameters.<br /> (2) It is not clear how general the result is, both within the framework of the STG network and its function, and across other functions and networks. This is crucial, as the title of the paper appears very general.
I believe these two elements are missing in the current manuscript, and addressing them would significantly strengthen the conclusions. Without a clear understanding of the mechanism, it is difficult to determine whether the results are merely anecdotal or if they depend on specific details such as how the network is trained, the particular function being studied, or the circuit itself. Additionally, understanding how general the findings are is vital, especially since the authors claim in the title that "Circuit function is more robust to changes in synaptic than intrinsic conductances," which suggests a broad applicability.
I do not wish to discourage the authors from their interesting result, but the more we understand the mechanism and the generality of the findings, the more insightful the result will be for the neuroscience community.
Major comments
(1) Mechanism<br /> While the authors did a nice job of describing their results, they did not provide any mechanism for why synaptic parameters are more resilient to changes than intrinsic parameters. For example, from Figure 5, it seems that there is mainly a shift in the sensitivity curves. What is the source of this shift? Can something be changed in the network, the training, or the function to control it? This is just one possible way to investigate the mechanism, which is lacking in the paper.
(2) Generality of the results within the framework of the STG circuit<br /> (a) The authors did show that their results extend to multiple networks with different parameters (the 100 networks). However, I am still concerned about the generality of the results with respect to the way the models were trained. Could it be that something in the training procedure makes the synaptic parameters more robust than intrinsic parameters? For example, the fact that duty cycle error is weighted as it is in the cost function (large beta) could potentially affect the parameters that are more important for yielding low error on the duty cycle.<br /> (b) Related to (a), I can think of a training scheme that could potentially improve the resilience of the network to perturbations in the intrinsic parameters rather than the synaptic parameters. For example, in machine learning, methods like dropout can be used to make the network find solutions that are robust to changes in parameters. Thus, in principle, the results could change if the training procedure for fitting the models were different, or by using a different optimization algorithm. It would be helpful to at least mention this limitation in the discussion.
(3) Generality of the function<br /> The authors test their hypothesis based on the specific function of the STG. It would be valuable to see if their results generalize to other functions as well. For example, the authors could generate non-oscillatory activity in the STG circuit, or choose a different, artificial function, maybe with different duty cycles or network cycles. It could be that this is beyond the scope of this paper, but it would be very interesting to characterize which functions are more resilient to changes in synapses, rather than intrinsic parameters. In other words, the authors might consider testing their hypothesis on at least another 'function' and also discussing the generality of their results to other functions in the discussion.
(4) Generality of the circuit<br /> The authors have studied the STG for many years and are pioneers in their approach, demonstrating that there is redundancy even in this simple circuit. This approach is insightful, but it is important to show that similar conclusions also hold for more general network architectures, and if not, why. In other words, it is not clear if their claim generalizes to other network architectures, particularly larger networks. For example, one might expect that the number of parameters (synaptic vs intrinsic) might play a role in how resilient the function is with respect to changes in the two sets of parameters. In larger models, the number of synaptic parameters grows as the square of the number of neurons, while the number of intrinsic parameters increases only linearly with the number of neurons. Could that affect the authors' conclusions when we examine larger models?
In addition, how do the authors' conclusions depend on the "complexity" of the non-linear equations governing the intrinsic parameters? Would the same conclusions hold if the intrinsic parameters only consisted of fewer intrinsic parameters or simplified ion channels? All of these are interesting questions that the authors should at least address in the discussion.
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Reviewer #2 (Public review):
Summary:
This manuscript presents an important exploration of how intrinsic and synaptic conductances affect the robustness of neural circuits. This is a well-deserved question, and overall, the manuscript is written well and has a logical progression.
The focus on intrinsic plasticity as a potentially overlooked factor in network dynamics is valuable. However, while the stomatogastric ganglion (STG) serves as a well-characterized and valuable model for studying network dynamics, its simplified structure and specific dynamics limit the generalizability of these findings to more complex systems, such as mammalian cortical microcircuits.
Strengths:<br /> Clean and simple model. Simulations are carefully carried out and parameter space is searched exhaustively.
Weaknesses:
(1) Scope and Generalizability:<br /> The study's emphasis on intrinsic conductance is timely, but with its minimalistic and unique dynamics, the STG model poses challenges when attempting to generalize findings to other neural systems. This raises questions regarding the applicability of the results to more complex circuits, especially those found in mammalian brains and those where the dynamics are not necessarily oscillating. This is even more so (as the authors mention) because synaptic conductances in this study are inhibitory, and changes to their synaptic conductances are limited (as the driving force for the current is relatively low).
(2) Challenges in Comparison:<br /> A significant challenge in the study is the comparison method used to evaluate the robustness of intrinsic versus synaptic perturbations. Perturbations to intrinsic conductances often drastically affect individual neurons' dynamics, as seen in Figure 1, where such changes result in single spikes or even the absence of spikes instead of the expected bursting behavior. This affects the input to downstream neurons, leading to circuit breakdowns. For a fair comparison, it would be essential to constrain the intrinsic perturbations so that each neuron remains within a particular functional range (e.g., maintaining a set number of spikes). This could be done by setting minimal behavioral criteria for neurons and testing how different perturbation limits impact circuit function.
(3) Comparative Metrics for Perturbation:<br /> Another notable issue lies in the evaluation metrics for intrinsic and synaptic perturbations. Synaptic perturbations are straightforward to quantify in terms of conductance, but intrinsic perturbations involve more complexity, as changes in maximal conductance result in variable, nonlinear effects depending on the gating states of ion channels. Furthermore, synaptic perturbations focus on individual conductances, while intrinsic perturbations involve multiple conductance changes simultaneously. To improve fairness in comparison, the authors could, for example, adjust the x-axis to reflect actual changes in conductance or scale the data post hoc based on the real impact of each perturbation on conductance. For example, in Figure 6, the scale of the panels of the intrinsic (e.g., g_na-bar) is x500 larger than the synaptic conductance (a row below), but the maximal conductance for sodium hits maybe for a brief moment during every spike and than most of the time it is close to null. Moreover, changing the sodium conductance over the range of 0-250 for such a nonlinear current is, in many ways, unthinkable, did you ever measure two neurons with such a difference in the sodium conductance? So, how can we tell that the ranges of the perturbations make a meaningful comparison?
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Reviewer #1 (Public review):
Summary:
The paper proposes that the placement of criteria for determining whether a stimulus is 'seen' or 'unseen' can significantly impact the validity of neural measures of consciousness. The authors found that conservative criteria, which require stronger evidence to classify a stimulus as 'seen,' tend to inflate effect sizes in neural measures, making conscious processing appear more pronounced than it is. Conversely, liberal criteria, which require less evidence, reduce these effect sizes, potentially underestimating conscious processing. This variability in effect sizes due to criterion placement can lead to misleading conclusions about the nature of conscious and unconscious processing.
Furthermore, the study highlights that the Perceptual Awareness Scale (PAS), a commonly used tool in consciousness research, does not effectively mitigate these criterion-related confounds. This means that even with PAS, the validity of neural measures can still be compromised by how criteria are set. The authors emphasize the need for careful consideration and standardization of criterion placement in experimental designs to ensure that neural measures accurately reflect the underlying cognitive processes. By addressing this issue, the paper aims to improve the reliability and validity of findings in the field of consciousness research.
Strengths:
(1) This research provides a fresh perspective on how criterion placement can significantly impact the validity of neural measures in consciousness research.
(2) The study employs robust simulations and EEG experiments to demonstrate the effects of criterion placement, ensuring that the findings are well-supported by empirical evidence.
(3) By highlighting the limitations of the PAS and the impact of criterion placement, the study offers practical recommendations for improving experimental designs in consciousness research.
Weaknesses:
The primary focused criterion of PAS is a commonly used tool, but there are other measures of consciousness that were not evaluated, which might also be subject to similar or different criterion limitations. A simulation could applied to these metrics to show how generalizable the conclusion of the study is.
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Reviewer #2 (Public review):
Summary:
The study investigates the potential influence of the response criterion on neural decoding accuracy in consciousness and unconsciousness, utilizing either simulated data or reanalyzing experimental data with post-hoc sorting data.
Strengths:
When comparing the neural decoding performance of Target versus NonTarget with or without post-hoc sorting based on subject reports, it is evident that response criterion can influence the results. This was observed in simulated data as well as in two experiments that manipulated the subject response criterion to be either more liberal or more conservative. One experiment involved a two-level response (seen vs unseen), while the other included a more detailed four-level response (ranging from 0 for no experience to 3 for a clear experience). The findings consistently indicated that adopting a more conservative response criterion could enhance neural decoding performance, whether in conscious or unconscious states, depending on the sensitivity or overall response threshold.
Weaknesses:
(1) The response criterion plays a crucial role in influencing neural decoding because a subject's report may not always align with the actual stimulus presented. This discrepancy can occur in cases of false alarms, where a subject reports seeing a target that was not actually there, or in cases where a target is present but not reported. Some may argue that only using data from consistent trials (those with correct responses) would not be affected by the response criterion. However, the authors' analysis suggests that a conservative response criterion not only reduces false alarms but also impacts hit rates. It is important for the authors to further investigate how the response criterion affects neural decoding even when considering only correct trials.
(2) The author has utilized decoding target vs. nontarget as the neural measures of unconscious and/or conscious processing. However, it is important to note that this is just one of the many neural measures used in the field. There are an increasing number of studies that focus on decoding the conscious content, such as target location or target category. If the author were to include results on decoding target orientation and how it may be influenced by response criterion, the field would greatly benefit from this paper.
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Reviewer #3 (Public review):
Summary:
Fahrenfort et al. investigate how liberal or conservative criterion placement in a detection task affects the construct validity of neural measures of unconscious cognition and conscious processing. Participants identified instances of "seen" or "unseen" in a detection task, a method known as post hoc sorting. Simulation data convincingly demonstrate that, counterintuitively, a conservative criterion inflates effect sizes of neural measures compared to a liberal criterion. While the impact of criterion shifts on effect size is suggested by signal detection theory, this study is the first to address this explicitly within the consciousness literature. Decoding analysis of data from two EEG experiments further shows that different criteria lead to differential effects on classifier performance in post hoc sorting. The findings underscore the pervasive influence of experimental design and participants report on neural measures of consciousness, revealing that criterion placement poses a critical challenge for researchers.
Strengths and Weaknesses:
One of the strengths of this study is the inclusion of the Perceptual Awareness Scale (PAS), which allows participants to provide more nuanced responses regarding their perceptual experiences. This approach ensures that responses at the lowest awareness level (selection 0) are made only when trials are genuinely unseen. This methodological choice is important as it helps prevent the overestimation of unconscious processing, enhancing the validity of the findings.
A potential area for improvement in this study is the use of single time-points from peak decoding accuracy to generate current source density topography maps. While we recognize that the decoding analysis employed here differs from traditional ERP approaches, the robustness of the findings could be enhanced by exploring current source density over relevant time windows. Event-related peaks, both in terms of timing and amplitude, can sometimes be influenced by noise or variability in trial-averaged EEG data, and a time-window analysis might provide a more comprehensive and stable representation of the underlying neural dynamics.
It is helpful that the authors show the standard error of the mean for the classifier performance over time. A similar indication of a measure of variance in other figures could improve clarity and transparency.<br /> That said, the paper appears solid regarding technical issues overall. The authors also do a commendable job in the discussion by addressing alternative paradigms, such as wagering paradigms, as a possible remedy to the criterion problem (Peters & Lau, 2015; Dienes & Seth, 2010). Their consideration of these alternatives provides a balanced view and strengthens the overall discussion.
Impact of the Work:
This study effectively demonstrates a phenomenon that has been largely unexplored within the consciousness literature. Subjective measures may not reliably capture the construct they aim to measure due to criterion confounds. Future research on neural measures of consciousness should account for this issue, and no-report measures may be necessary until the criterion problem is resolved.
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Reviewer #1 (Public review):
Summary:
Urination requires precise coordination between the bladder and external urethral sphincter (EUS), while the neural substrates controlling this coordination remain poorly understood. In this study, Li et al. identify estrogen receptor 1-expressing neurons (ESR1+) in Barrington's nucleus as key regulators that faithfully initiate or suspend urination. Results from peripheral nerve lesions suggest that BarEsr1 neurons play independent roles in controlling bladder contraction and relaxation of the EUS. Finally, the authors performed region-specific retrograde tracing, claiming that distinct populations of BarEsr1 neurons target specific spinal nuclei involved in regulating the bladder and EUS, respectively.
Strength:
Overall, the work is of high quality. The authors integrate several cutting-edge technologies and sophisticated, thorough analyses, including opto-tagged single unit recordings, combined optogenetics, and urodynamics, particularly those following distinct peripheral nerve lesions.
Weakness:
(1) My major concern is the novelty of this study. Keller et al. 2018 have shown that BarEsr1 neurons are active during urination and play an essential role in relaxing the external urethral sphincter (EUS). Minimally, substantial content that merely confirms previous findings (e.g. Figures 1A-E; Figures 3A-E) should be move to the supplementary datasets.
(2) I also have concerns regarding the results showing that the inactivation of BarEsr1 neurons led to the cessation of EUS muscle firing (Figures 2G and S5C). As shown in the cartoon illustration of Figure 8, spinal projections of BarEsr1 neurons contact interneurons (presumably inhibitory) that innervate motor neurons, which in turn excite the EUS. I would therefore expect that the inactivation of BarEsr1 should shift the EUS firing pattern from phasic (as relaxation) to tonic (removal of relaxation), rather than stopping their firing entirely. Could the authors comment on this and provide potential reasons or mechanisms for this finding?
(3) Current evidence is insufficient to support the claim that the majority of BarEsr1 neurons innervate the SPN but not DGC. The current spinal images are uninformative, as the fluorescence reflects the distribution of Esr1- or Crh-expressing neurons in the spinal cord, along with descending BarEsr1 or BarCrh axons. Given the close anatomical proximity of these two nuclei, a more thorough histological analysis is required to demonstrate that the spinal injections were accurately confined to either the SPN or the DGC.
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Reviewer #2 (Public review):
Summary:
The authors have performed a rigorous study to assess the role of ESR1+ neurons in the PMC to control the coordination of bladder and sphincter muscles during urination. This is an important extension of previous work defining the role of these brainstem neurons, and convincingly adds to the understanding of their role as master regulators of urination. This is a thorough, well-done study that clarifies how the Pontine micturition center coordinates different muscle groups for efficient urination, but there are some questions and considerations that remain.
Strengths:
These data are thorough and convincing in showing that ESR1+ PMC neurons exert coordinated control over both the bladder and sphincter activity, which is essential for efficient urination. The anatomical distinctions in pelvic versus pudendal control are clear, and it's an advance to understand how this coordination occurs. This work offers a clearer picture of how micturition is driven.
Weaknesses:
The dynamics of how this population of ESR1+ neurons is engaged in natural urination events remains unclear. Not all ESR1+neurons are always engaged, and it is not measured whether this is simply variation in population activity, or if more neurons are engaged during more intense starting bladder pressures, for instance. In particular, the response dynamics of single and doubly-projecting neurons are not defined. Additionally, the model for how these neurons coordinate with CRH+ neuron activity in the PMC is not addressed, although these cell types seem to be engaged at the same time. Lastly, it would be interesting to know how sensory input can likely modulate the activity of these neurons, but this is perhaps a future direction.
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Reviewer #3 (Public review):
Summary:
The paper by Li et al explored the role of Estrogen receptor 1 (Esr1) expressing neurons in the pontine micturition center (PMC), a brainstem region also known as Barrington's nucleus (Hou et al 2016, Keller et al 2018). First, the author conducted bulk Ca2+ imaging/unit recording from PMCESR1 to investigate the correlations of PMCESR1 neural activity to voiding behavior in conscious mice and bladder pressure/external urethral muscle activity in urethane anesthetized mice. Next, the authors conducted optogenetics inactivation/activation of PMCESR1 to confirm the contribution to the voiding behavior also conducted peripheral nerve transection together with optogenetics activation to confirm the independent control of bladder pressure and urethral sphincter muscle.
Weaknesses:
(1) The study demonstrates that pelvic nerve transection reduces urinary volume triggered by PMCESR1+ cell photoactivation in freely moving mice. Could the role of pudendal nerve transection also be examined in awake mice to provide a more comprehensive understanding of neural involvement?
(2) While the paper primarily focuses on PMCESR1+ cells in bladder-sphincter coordination, the analysis of PMCESR1+-DGC/SPN neural circuits - given their distinct anatomical projections in the sacral spinal cord - feels underexplored. How do these circuits influence bladder and sphincter function when activated or inhibited? Also, do you have any tracing data to confirm whether bladder-sphincter innervation comes from distinct spinal nuclei?
(3) Although the paper successfully identifies the physiological role of PMCESR1+ cells in bladder-sphincter coordination, the study falls short in examining the electrophysiological properties of PMCESR1+-DGC/SPN cells. A deeper investigation here would strengthen the findings.
(4) The parameters for photoactivation (blue light pulses delivered at 25 Hz for 15 ms, every 30 s) and photoinhibition (pulses at 50 Hz for 20 ms) vary. What drove the selection of these specific parameters? Moreover, for photoactivation experiments, the change in pressure (ΔP = P5 sec - P0 sec) is calculated differently from photoinhibition (Δpressure = Ppeak - Pmin). Can you clarify the reasoning behind these differing approaches?
(5) The discussion could further emphasize how PMCESR1+ cells coordinate bladder contraction and sphincter relaxation to control urination, highlighting their central role in the initiation and suspension of this process.
(6) In Figure 8, The authors analyze the temporal sequence of bladder pressure and EUS bursting during natural voiding and PMC activation-induced voiding. It would be acceptable to consider the existence of a lower spinal reflex circuit, however, the interpretation of the data contains speculation. Bladder pressure measurement is hard to say reflecting efferent pelvic nerve activity in real time. (As a biological system, bladder contraction is mediated by smooth muscle, and does not reflect real-time efferent pelvic nerve activity. As an experimental set-up, bladder pressure measurement has some delays to reflect bladder pressure because of tubing, but EUS bursting has no delay.) Especially for the inactivation experiment, these factors would contribute to the interpretation of data. This reviewer recommends a rewrite of the section considering these limitations. Most of the section is suitable for the results.
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Reviewer #1 (Public Review):
Summary:
The study aimed to better understand the role of the H3 protein of the Monkeypox virus (MPXV) in host cell adhesion, identifying a crucial α-helical domain for interaction with heparan sulfate (HS). Using a combination of advanced computational simulations and experimental validations, the authors discovered that this domain is essential for viral adhesion and potentially a new target for developing antiviral therapies.
Strengths:
The study's main strengths include the use of cutting-edge computational tools such as AlphaFold2 and molecular dynamics simulations, combined with robust experimental techniques like single-molecule force spectroscopy and flow cytometry. These methods provided a detailed and reliable view of the interactions between the H3 protein and HS. The study also highlighted the importance of the α-helical domain's electric charge and the influence of the Mg(II) ion in stabilizing this interaction. The work's impact on the field is significant, offering new perspectives for developing antiviral treatments for MPXV and potentially other viruses with similar adhesion mechanisms. The provided methods and data are highly useful for researchers working with viral proteins and protein-polysaccharide interactions, offering a solid foundation for future investigations and therapeutic innovations.
Comments on revised version:
The authors have successfully addressed the questions raised in my review.
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Reviewer #2 (Public Review):
Summary:
The manuscript presenting the discovery of a heparan-sulfate (HS) binding domain in monkeypox virus (MPXV) H3 protein as a new anti-poxviral drug target, presented by Bin Zhen and co-workers, is of interest, given that it offers a potentially broad antiviral substance to be used against poxviruses. Using new computational biology techniques, the authors identified a new alpha-helical domain in the H3 protein, which interacts with cell surface HS, and this domain seems to be crucial for H3-HS interaction. Given that this domain is conserved across orthopoxviruses, authors designed protein inhibitors. One of these inhibitors, AI-PoxBlock723, effectively disrupted the H3-HS interaction and inhibited infection with Monkeypox virus and Vaccinia virus. The presented data should be of interest to a diverse audience, given the possibility of an effective anti-poxviral drug.
Strengths:
In my opinion, the experiments done in this work were well-planned and executed. The authors put together several computational methods, to design poxvirus inhibitor molecules, and then they test these molecules for infection inhibition.
Comments on revised version:
The authors have addressed the comments I made in my review.
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Reviewer #3 (Public Review):
Summary:
The article is an interesting approach to determining the MPOX receptor using "in silico" tools. The results show the presence of two regions of the H3 protein with a high probability of being involved in the interaction with the HS cell receptor. However, the α-helical region seems to be the most probable, since modifications in this region affect the virus binding to the HS receptor.
Strengths:
In my opinion, it is an informative article with interesting results, generated by a combination of "in silico" and wet science to test the theoretical results. This is a strong point of the article.
Comments on revised version:
After a review of the changes to the manuscript and the author's responses, no further changes are needed.
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This study of mixed glutamate/GABA transmission from axons of the supramammillary nucleus to dentate gyrus seeks to sort out whether the two transmitters are released from the same or different synaptic vesicles. This conundrum has been examined in other dual-transmission cases and even in this particular pathway there are different views. The authors use a variety of electrophysiological and immunohistochemical methods to reach the surprising (to me) conclusion that glutamate and GABA filled vesicles are distinct yet released from the same nerve terminals. While the strength of the conclusion rests on the abundance of data (approaches) rather than the decisiveness of any one approach, I came away believing that the boutons may indeed produce and release distinct types of vesicles. Accepting the conclusion, one is now left with another conundrum: how can a single bouton sort out VGLUTs and VIAATs to different vesicles, position them in distinct locations with nm precision and recycle them without mixing? And why do it this way instead of with single vesicles having mixed chemical content? For example, could a quantitative argument be made that separate vesicles allow for higher transmitter concentrations? Hopefully, future studies will probe these issues.
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Summary:
In this study, the authors investigated the release properties of glutamate/GABA co-transmission at the supramammillary nucleus (SuM)-dentate granule cell (DGC) synapses using state -of-the-arts in vitro electrophysiology and anatomical approaches at the light and electron microscopy level. They found that SuM to dentate granule cell synapses, which co-release glutamate and GABA, exhibit distinct differences in paired-pulse ratio, Ca2+ sensitivity, presynaptic receptor modulation, and Ca2+ channel-vesicle coupling configuration for each neurotransmitter. The study shows that glutamate/GABA co-release produces independent glutamatergic and GABAergic synaptic responses, with postsynaptic targets segregated. They show that most SuM boutons form distinct glutamatergic and GABAergic synapses at proximity, characterized by GluN1 and GABAAα1 receptor labeling respectively. Furthermore, they demonstrate that glutamate/GABA co-transmission exhibits distinct short-term plasticity, with glutamate showing frequency-dependent depression and GABA showing frequency-independent stable depression. The authors provide compelling evidence at the anatomical and physiological levels that glutamate and GABA are co-release by different synaptic vesicles within the same synaptic terminal at the SuM-DGC synapses and that the distinct transmission modes of the glutamate and GABA release serve as a frequency-dependent filters of SuM inputs on GC outputs.<br /> This is a fundamental work, that significantly advances our understanding of the mechanism by which the two fast-acting and functionally opposing neurotransmitters glutamate and GABA are co-transmitted at the SuM-DGC synapses and the functional role of this type of Glutamate/GABA co-transmission.
Strengths:
The conclusions of this paper are provided by a large number of compelling data
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Reviewer #3 (Public review):
Summary:
In this manuscript, Hirai et al investigated the release properties of glutamate/GABA co-transmission at SuM-GC synapses and reported that glutamate/GABA co-transmission exhibits distinct short-term plasticity with segregated postsynaptic targets. Using optogenetics, whole-cell patch-clamp recordings, and immunohistochemistry, the authors reveal distinct transmission modes of glutamate/GABA co-release as frequency-dependent filters of incoming SuM inputs.
Strengths:
Overall, this study is well-designed and executed; conclusions are supported by the results. This study addressed a long-standing question of whether GABA and glutamate are packaged in the same vesicles and co-released in response to the same stimuli in the SuM-GC synapses (Pedersen et al., 2017; Hashimotodani et al., 2018; Billwiller et al., 2020; Chen et al., 2020; Li et al., 2020; Ajibola et al., 2021). Knowledge gained from this study advances our understanding of neurotransmitter co-release mechanisms and their functional roles in the hippocampal circuits.
Comments on revisions:
The authors have addressed my comments, and now the manuscript is in a good form as it currently stands.
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This paper reports fossil soft-tissue structures (tail vanes) of pterosaurs, and attempts to relate this to flight performance and other proposed functions for the tail
The paper presents new evidence for soft-tissue strengthening of vanes using exciting new methods.
There is now some discussion of bias in the sample selection method as well as some theory to show how the lattice could have functioned, other than a narrative description.
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Summary:
Lodhiya et al. demonstrate that antibiotics with distinct mechanisms of action, norfloxacin and streptomycin, cause similar metabolic dysfunction in the model organism Mycobacterium smegmatis. This includes enhanced flux through the TCA cycle and respiration as well as a build-up of reactive oxygen species (ROS) and ATP. Genetic and/or pharmacologic depression of ROS or ATP levels protect M. smegmatis from norfloxacin and streptomycin killing. Because ATP depression is protective, but in some cases does not depress ROS, the authors surmise that excessive ATP is the primary mechanism by which norfloxacin and streptomycin kill M. smegmatis. In general, the experiments are carefully executed; alternative hypotheses are discussed and considered; the data are contextualized within the existing literature.
Strengths:
The authors tackle a problem that is both biologically interesting and medically impactful, namely, the mechanism of antibiotic-induced cell death.
Experiments are carefully executed, for example, numerous dose- and time-dependency studies; multiple, orthogonal readouts for ROS; and several methods for pharmacological and genetic depletion of ATP.
There has been a lot of excitement and controversy in the field, and the authors do a nice job of situating their work in this larger context.
Inherent limitations to some of their approaches are acknowledged and discussed e.g., normalizing ATP levels to viable counts of bacteria.
Weaknesses:
All of the experiments performed here were in the model organism M. smegmatis. As the authors point out, the extent to which these findings apply to other organisms (most notably, slow-growing pathogens like M. tuberculosis) is to be determined. To avoid the perception of overreach, I would recommend substituting "M. smegmatis" for Mycobacteria (especially in the title and abstract).
At first glance, a few of the results in the manuscript seem to conflict with what has been previously reported in the (referenced) literature. In their response to reviewers, the authors addressed my concerns. It would also be ideal to include a few lines in the manuscript briefly addressing these points. (Other readers may have similar concerns)
In the first round of review, I suggested that the authors consider removing Figs. 9 and 10A-B as I believe they distract from the main point of the paper and appear to be the beginning of a new story rather than the end of the current one. I still hold this opinion. However, one of the strengths of the eLife model is that we can agree to disagree.
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Summary:
The authors are trying to test the hypothesis that ATP bursts are the predominant driver of antibiotic lethality of Mycobacteria
Strengths:
No significant strengths in the current state as it is written.
Weaknesses:
A major weakness is that M. smegmatis has a doubling time of three hours and the authors are trying to conclude that their data would reflect the physiology of M. tuberculossi that has a doubling time of 24 hours. Moreover, the authors try to compare OD measurements with CFU counts and thus observe great variabilities.
Comments on revisions:
I am surprised that the authors simply did not repeat the study in figure one with CFU counts and repeated in triplicate. Since this is M. smegmatis, it would take no longer than two weeks to repeat this experiment and replace the figure. I understand that obtaining CFU counts is much more laborious than OD measurements but it is necessary. Your graph still says that there is 0 bacteria at time 0, yet in your legend it says you started with 600,000 CFU/ml. I don't understand why this experiment was not repeated with CFU counts measured throughout. This is not a big ask since this is M. smegmatis but it appears that the authors do not want to repeat this experiment. Minimally, fix the graph to represent the CFU.
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Summary:
This is a very nice paper in which the authors addressed the potential for NK cell cellular therapy to treat and potentially eliminate previously established metastases after surgical resections, which are a major cause of death in human cancer patients. To do so they developed a model using the EO771 breast cancer cell line, in which they establish and then resect tumors and the draining lymph node, after which the majority of mice eventually succumb to metastatic disease. They found that when the initiating tumors were resected when still relatively small, adoptive transfers of IL-15/12-conditioned NK cells substantially enhanced the survival of tumor-bearing animals. They then delved into the cellular mechanisms involved. Interestingly and somewhat unexpectedly, the therapeutic effect of the transferred NK cells was dependent on the host's CD8+ T cells. Accordingly, the NK cell therapy contributed to the formation of tumor-specific CD8+ T cells, which protected the recipient animals against tumor re-challenge and were effective in protecting mice from tumor formation when transferred to naive mice. Mechanistically, they used Ifng knockout NK cells to provide evidence that IFNgamma produced by the transferred NK cells was crucial for the accumulation and activation of DCs in the metastatic lung, including expression of CD86, CD40 and MHC genes. In turn, IFNgamma production by NK cells was essential for the induced accumulation of activated CD8 effector T cells and stem cell-like CD8 T cells in the metastatic lung. The authors then expanded their findings from the mouse model to a small clinical trial. They found that inoculations of IL-15/12-conditioned autologous NK cells in patients with various malignancies after resection was safe and showed signs of efficacy.
Strengths:
- Monitoring of long-term metastatic disease and survival after resection used in this paper is a physiological model that closely resembles clinical scenarios more than the animal models usually used, a great strength of the approach.<br /> - Previous literature focused on the notion that NK cells clear metastatic lesions directly, within a short period. The authors' use of a more relevant model and time frame revealed the previously unexplored T cell-dependent mechanism of action of infused NK cells for long-term control of metastatic diseases.<br /> - Also important, the paper provides solid evidence for the contribution of IFNgamma produced by NK cells for activation of dendritic cells and T cells. This is an interesting finding that provokes additional questions concerning the action of the interferon gamma in this context.<br /> - The results from the clinical trial in cancer patients based on the same type of IL-15/12-conditioned NK cell infusions, was encouraging with respect to safety and showed signals of efficacy, which support the translatability of the author's findings.
Future studies in this model could shed even more light on the mechanisms. The authors do not address whether the IL-12 in their cocktail is essential for the effects they see. Relatedly, it was of interest that despite the effectiveness of the transferred IL-15/IL-12 cultured NK cells, the cells failed to persist very long after transfer. Published studies have reported that so-called memory-like NK cells, which are pre-activated with a cocktail of IL-12, IL-18 and IL-15, persist much longer in lympho-depleted mice and patients than IL-2 cultured NK cells. It would be illuminating to compare these two types of NK cell products in the author's model system, and with, or without, lymphodepletion, to identify the critical parameters. If greater persistence occurred with the memory-like NK cell product, it is possible that the NK cells might provide greater benefit, including by directly targeting the tumor.
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Summary:
The authors show convincing data that increasing NK cell function/frequency can reduce development and progression of metastatic disease after primary tumor resection.
Strengths:
The inclusion of a first-in-human trial highlighting some partial responses of metastatic patients treated with in vitro expanded NK cells is tantalising. It is difficult to perform trials in preventing further metastasis since the timelines are very protracted but more data like these highlighting a role for NK cells in improving local cDC1/T cells anti-tumor immunity will encourage deeper thinking around therapeutic approaches to target endogenous NK cells to achieve the same.
Weaknesses:
As always, more patient data would help increase confidence around the human relevance of the approach.
Comments on revisions:
The authors have addressed all my queries
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Previous work has shown that the evolutionarily-conserved division-orienting protein LGN/ Pins/ GPR1/2 (vertebrates/flies/nematodes) participates in division orientation across a variety of cell types, perhaps most importantly those that undergo asymmetric divisions (ACDs). Micromere formation in echinoids relies on asymmetric cell division at the 16-cell stage, and these authors previously demonstrated a role for the LGN/Pins homolog AGS (Activator of G-protein signaling) in that ACD process. Here they extend that work by investigating and exploiting the question of why echinoids but not other echinoderms form micromeres. Using an impressive combination of phylogenetics and molecular experiments, they determine that much of the difference in ACD and micromere formation in echinoids can be attributed to differences in the AGS C-terminus, in particular a GoLoco domain (GL1) that is missing in most other echinoderms. This work helps explain how AGS works and thereby enhances our understanding of a conserved player in division orientation.
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This study from Dr. Emura and colleagues addresses the relevance of AGS3 mutations in the execution of asymmetric cell divisions promoting the formation of the micromere during sea-searching development. To this aim, the authors use quantitative imaging approaches to evaluate the localisation of AGS3 mutants truncated at the N-terminal region or at the C-terminal region, and correlate these distributions with the formation of micromere and correct development of embryos to the pluteus stage. The authors also analyse the capacity of these mutated proteins to rescue developmental defects observed upon AGS3 depletion by morpholino antisense nucleotides (MO). Collectively these experiments revealed that the C-terminus of AGS3, coding for four GoLoco motifs binding to cortical Gaphai proteins, is the molecular determinant for cortical localisation of AGS3 at the micromeres and correct pluteus development. Further genetic dissections and expression of chimeric AGS3 mutants carrying shuffled copies of the GoLoco motifs or four copies of the same motifs revealed that the position of GoLoco1 is essential for AGS3 functioning. To understand whether the AGS3-GoLoco1 evolved specifically to promote asymmetric cell divisions, the author analyse chimeric AGS3 variants in which they replaced the sea urchin GoLoco region with orthologs from other echinoids that do not form micromeres, or from Drosophila Pins or human LGN. These analyses corroborate the notion that the GoLoco1 position is crucial for asymmetric AGS3 functions. In the last part of the manuscript, the authors explore whether SpAGS3 interacts with the molecular machinery described to promote asymmetric cell division in eukaryotes, including Insc, NuMA, Par3 and Galphai, and show that all these proteins colocalize at the nascent micromere, together with the fate determinant Vasa. Collectively this evidence highlighted how evolutionarily selected AGS3 modifications are essential to sustain asymmetric divisions and specific developmental programs associated with them.
The manuscript addresses an interesting question and uses elegant genetic approaches associated with imaging analyses to elucidate the molecular mechanisms whereby AGS3 and spindle orientation proteins promote asymmetric divisions and specific developmental programs. This considered, it might be worth clarifying a few aspects of the reported findings.
(1) In some experimental settings, the presence of AGS3 mutants exacerbates the AGS3 deletion by MO (Fig. 4F). Can the author speculate on what can be the molecular explanation?
(2) Imaging analyses of Figure 4B-C suggest that the mutant AGS1111 does not localise at the vegetal cortex while AGS2222 does (Fig. 4C). However these mutants induce similar developmental defects (Fig. 4F) . What could be the reason?
(3) Figure 7 shows the crosstalk between AGS3 and other asymmetry players including NuMA. Vertebrate and Drosophila NuMA are ubiquitously present in tissues and localises to the spindle poles in mitosi. However in Figure 7A and 7E NuMA seems expressed only in a subset of sea urchin embryonic cells. Is this the case?
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The authors aimed to classify hepatocellular carcinoma (HCC) patients into distinct subtypes using a comprehensive multi-omics approach. They employed an innovative consensus clustering method that integrates multiple omics data types, including mRNA, lncRNA, miRNA, DNA methylation, and somatic mutations. The study further sought to validate these subtypes by developing prognostic models using machine learning algorithms and extending the findings through single-cell RNA sequencing (scRNA-seq) to explore the cellular mechanisms driving subtype-specific prognostic differences.
Strengths:
(1) Comprehensive Data Integration: The study's integration of various omics data provides a well-rounded view of the molecular characteristics underlying HCC. This multi-omics approach is a significant strength, as it allows for more accurate and detailed classification of cancer subtypes.
(2) Innovative Methodology: The use of a consensus clustering approach that combines results from 10 different clustering algorithms is a notable methodological advancement. This approach reduces the bias that can result from relying on a single clustering method, enhancing the robustness of the findings.
(3) Machine Learning-Based Prognostic Modeling: The authors rigorously apply a wide array of machine learning algorithms to develop and validate prognostic models, testing 101 different algorithm combinations. This comprehensive approach underscores the study's commitment to identifying the most predictive models, which is a considerable strength.
(4) Validation Across Multiple Cohorts: The external validation of findings in independent cohorts is a critical strength, as it increases the generalizability and reliability of the results. This step is essential for demonstrating the clinical relevance of the proposed subtypes and prognostic models.
Weaknesses:
(1) Inconsistent Storyline:<br /> Despite the extensive data mining and rigorous methodologies, the manuscript suffers from a lack of a coherent and consistent narrative. The transition between different sections, particularly from multi-omics data integration to single-cell validation, feels disjointed. A clearer articulation of how each analysis ties into the overall research question would improve the manuscript.
(2) Questionable Relevance of Immune Cell Activity Analysis:<br /> The evaluation of immune cell activities within the cancer cell model raises concerns about its meaningfulness. The methods used to assess immune function in the tumor microenvironment may not be fully appropriate, potentially limiting the insights gained from this part of the study.
(3) Incomplete Single-Cell RNA-Seq Validation:<br /> The validation of the findings using single-cell RNA-seq data appears insufficient to fully support the study's claims. While the authors make an effort to extend their findings to the single-cell level, the analysis lacks depth. A more comprehensive validation is necessary to substantiate the robustness of the identified subtypes.
(4) Figures and Visualizations:<br /> Several figures in the manuscript are missing necessary information, which affects the clarity of the results. For instance, the pathways in Figure 3A could be clustered to enhance interpretability, the blue bar in Figure 4A is unexplained, and Figure 4B is not discussed in the text. Additionally, the figure legend in Figure 7C lacks detail, and many figure descriptions merely repeat the captions without providing deeper insights.
(5) Appraisal of the Study's Aims and Results:<br /> The authors have set out to achieve an ambitious goal of classifying HCC patients into distinct prognostic subtypes and validating these findings through both bulk and single-cell analyses. While the methodologies employed are innovative and the data integration comprehensive, the study falls short of fully achieving its aims due to inconsistencies in the narrative and incomplete validation. The results partially support the conclusions, but the lack of coherence and depth in certain areas limits the overall impact of the study.
(6) Impact on the Field:<br /> If the identified weaknesses are addressed, this study has the potential to significantly impact the field of HCC research. The multi-omics approach combined with machine learning is a powerful framework that could set a new standard for cancer subtype classification. However, the current state of the manuscript leaves some uncertainty regarding the practical applicability of the findings, particularly in clinical settings.
(6) Additional Context<br /> For readers and researchers, this study offers a valuable look into the potential of integrating multi-omics data with machine learning to improve cancer classification and prognostication. However, readers should be aware of the noted weaknesses, particularly the need for more consistent narrative development and comprehensive validation of the methods. Addressing these issues could greatly enhance the study's utility and relevance to the community.
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Summary:
Overall, this is a well-executed and insightful study. With some refinement to the presentation and a deeper exploration of the implications, the manuscript will make a significant contribution to the field of cancer genomics and personalized medicine.
Strengths:
The manuscript integrates multi-omics data with machine learning to address the significant heterogeneity of hepatocellular carcinoma (HCC). The use of multiple clustering algorithms and a consensus method strengthens the robustness of the findings. The study successfully develops a prognostic model with excellent predictive accuracy, validated across independent datasets. This adds considerable value to the field, particularly in providing individualized treatment strategies. The identification of two distinct liver cancer subtypes with different biological and metabolic characteristics is well-supported by the data, offering a promising direction for personalized medicine.
Weaknesses:
(1) Consider streamlining the presentation of methods, especially regarding the clustering algorithms and machine learning models. Readers may find it difficult to follow the exact process unless more clearly outlined.
(2) Some figures, such as the signaling pathways and heatmaps, are critical to understanding the study's findings. Ensure that all figures are high quality, easy to interpret, and adequately labeled. You may also want to highlight the key findings within the figure captions more explicitly.
(3) While the manuscript does compare its prognostic model to those previously published, the novelty of the findings could be emphasized more clearly. Discussing the potential limitations of the study (e.g., the reliance on computational models and small sample sizes for scRNA-seq) could strengthen the manuscript.
(4) The manuscript mentions that the data was split into training and validation datasets in a 1:1 ratio. How was the performance verified? Is there an independent test set?
(5) The role of the MIF signaling pathway in subtype differentiation is intriguing, but further mechanistic insights into how this pathway drives the differences between CS1 and CS2 could be discussed in more detail. If experimental evidence for this pathway exists in the literature, it should be mentioned.
(6) Some sentences are quite long and complex, which can affect readability. Breaking them down into shorter, clearer sentences would improve the flow.
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Debeuf et al. introduce a new, fast method for the selection of suitable T cell clones to generate TCR transgenic mice, a method claimed to outperform traditional hybridoma-based approaches. Clone selection is based on the assessment of the expansion and phenotype of cells specific for a known epitope following immune stimulation. The analysis is facilitated by a new software tool for TCR repertoire and function analysis termed DALI. This work also introduces a potentially invaluable TCR transgenic mouse line specific for SARS-CoV-2.
Strengths:
The newly introduced method proved successful in the quick generation of a TCR transgenic mouse line. Clone selection is based on more comprehensive phenotypical information than traditional methods, providing the opportunity for a more rational T-cell clone selection.
The study provides a software tool for TCR repertoire analysis and its linkage with function.
The findings entail general practical implications in the preclinical study of a potentially very broad range of infectious diseases or vaccination.
A novel SARS-CoV-2 spike-specific TCR transgenic mouse line was generated.
Weaknesses:
The authors present a novel method to develop TCR transgenic mice and overcome the limitations of the more traditional method based on hybridomas.
The authors indicate that they did not intend to directly compare their new method with the traditional hybridoma-based approach. However, such comparison becomes inevitable when the classical method is presented as suboptimal and an alternative approach is introduced to address its limitations. Nevertheless, the explanations provided in their rebuttal have helped clarify their position. The intention behind supplementary figure 1 is to illustrate that a clone that appears suitable using traditional assays may fail to produce a successful TCR transgenic line. This is a valid point that I think should be emphasized more clearly in the manuscript, as it highlights the limitations of the traditional method.
However, the main question that remains is whether the proposed new method will reliably resolve this issue. As previously noted, only one mouse line was generated (successfully) from a single candidate, and the method presented to generate their new TCR transgenic line starts from a more advanced point (a well characterized epitope is already known, and tetramers are available to preselect specific clones). Although this approach likely increases the chances of success, it also limits applicability.
The authors suggest that tetramers are not absolutely necessary to select a clone of interest. Testing this hypothesis would have added value to this manuscript, demonstrating the ability to rapidly generate new TCR transgenic lines in response to emerging pathogens, as outlined in the introduction. They propose that, in such cases, mice could be immunised and expanded clones retested for reactivity. However, it is unclear how this strategy differs from the classic method in increasing the chances of selecting an optimal clone.
Regarding the practical value and cost-effectiveness of extensive expression profiling for T cell clone selection, it remains unclear how well a clone chosen for specific traits will retain these features when developed into a TCR transgenic line, or what traits are ideal for different applications. T cell fate is plastic, and various parameters could influence marker expression.
Issues remain concerning the statistical analysis. Data are said to have been analyzed using both parametric and non-parametric tests. The described approach of performing a normality test followed by either parametric or non-parametric tests is not a correct method for statistical data analysis.
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Summary:
The authors seek to use single-cell sequencing approaches to identify TCRs specific for the SARS CoV2 spike protein, select a candidate TCR for cloning and use it to construct a TCR transgenic mouse. The argument is that this process is less cumbersome than the classical approach, which involves the identification of antigen-reactive T cells in vitro and the construction of T cell hybridomas prior to TCR cloning. TCRs identified by single-cell sequencing that is already paired to transcriptomic data would more rapidly identify TCRs that are likely to contribute to a functional response. The authors successfully identify TCRs that have expanded in response to SARS CoV2 spike protein immunization, bind to MHC tetramers and express genes associated with functional response. They then select a TCR for cloning and construction of a transgenic mouse in order to test the response of resulting T cells in vivo following immunization with spike protein of coronavirus infection.
Strengths:
(1) The study provides proof of principle for the identification and characterization of TCRs based on single-cell sequencing data.
(2) The authors employ a recently developed software tool (DALI) that assists in linking transcriptomic data to individual clones.
(3) The authors successfully generate a TCR transgenic animal derived from the most promising T cell clone (CORSET8) using the TCR sequencing approach.
(4) The authors provide initial evidence that CORSET8 T cells undergo activation and proliferation in vivo in response to immunization or infection.
(5) Procedures are well-described and readily reproducible.
Weaknesses:
(1) The purpose of presenting a failed attempt to generate TCR transgenic mice using a traditional TCR hybridoma method is unclear. The reasons for the failure are uncertain, and the inclusion of this data does not really provide information on the likely success rate of the hybridoma vs single cell approach for TCR identification, as only a single example is provided for either.
(2) There is little information provided regarding the functional differentiation of the CORSET8 T cells following challenge in vivo, including expression of molecules associated with effector function, cytokine production, killing activity and formation of memory. The study would be strengthened by some evidence that CORSET8 T cells are successfully recapitulating the functional features of the endogenous immune response (beyond simply proliferating and expressing CD44). This information is important to evaluate whether the presented sequencing-based identification and selection of TCRs is likely to result in T-cell responses that replicate the criteria for selecting the TCR in the first place.
(3) While I find the argument reasonable that the approach presented here has a lot of likely advantages over traditional approaches for generating TCR transgenic animals, the use of TCR sequencing data to identify TCRs for study in variety of areas, including cancer immunotherapy and autoimmunity, is in broad use. While much of this work opts for alternative methods of TCR expression in primary T cells (i.e. CRISPR or retroviral approaches), the process of generating a TCR transgenic mouse from a cloned TCR is not in itself novel. It would be helpful if the authors could provide a more extensive discussion explaining the novelty of their approach for TCR identification in comparison to other more modern approaches, rather than only hybridoma generation.
Comments on revisions:
The authors have provided additional clarification on the comparisons between the presented method for TCR transgenic generation and the hybridoma method that is more commonly used and added additional verification of the functional response in vivo of T cells expressing the selected TCR. Overall, these additions enhance the evidence that the proposed methods are likely to identify TCRs with a strong immune activation profile and are a reasonable response to the first round of review.
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Summary:
Jin et al. investigated how the bacterial DNA damage (SOS) response and its regulator protein RecA affects the development of drug resistance under short-term exposure to beta-lactam antibiotics. Canonically, the SOS response is triggered by DNA damage, which results in the induction of error-prone DNA repair mechanisms. These error-prone repair pathways can increase mutagenesis in the cell, leading to the evolution of drug resistance. Thus, inhibiting the SOS regulator RecA has been proposed as means to delay the rise of resistance.
In this paper, the authors deleted the RecA protein from E. coli and exposed this ∆recA strain to selective levels of the beta-lactam antibiotic, ampicillin. After an 8h treatment, they washed the antibiotic away and allowed the surviving cells to recover in regular media. They then measured the minimum inhibitory concentration (MIC) of ampicillin against these treated strains. They note that after just 8 h treatment with ampicillin, the ∆recA had developed higher MICs towards ampicillin, while by contrast, wild-type cells exhibited unchanged MICs. This MIC increase was also observed subsequent generations of bacteria, suggesting that the phenotype is driven by a genetic change.
The authors then used whole genome sequencing (WGS) to identify mutations that accounted for the resistance phenotype. Within resistant populations, they discovered key mutations in the promoter region of the beta-lactamase gene, ampC; in the penicillin-binding protein PBP3 which is the target of ampicillin; and in the AcrB subunit of the AcrAB-TolC efflux machinery. Importantly, mutations in the efflux machinery can impact the resistances towards other antibiotics, not just beta-lactams. To test this, they repeated the MIC experiments with other classes of antibiotics, including kanamycin, chloramphenicol, and rifampicin. Interestingly, they observed that the ∆recA strains pre-treated with ampicillin showed higher MICs towards all other antibiotic tested. This suggests that the mutations conferring resistance to ampicillin are also increasing resistance to other antibiotics.
The authors then performed an impressive series of genetic, microscopy, and transcriptomic experiments to show that this increase in resistance is not driven by the SOS response, but by independent DNA repair and stress response pathways. Specifically, they show that deletion of the recA reduces the bacterium's ability to process reactive oxygen species (ROS) and repair its DNA. These factors drive accumulation of mutations that can confer resistance towards different classes of antibiotics. The conclusions are reasonably well-supported by the data, but some aspects of the data and the model need to be clarified and extended.
Strengths:
A major strength of the paper is the detailed bacterial genetics and transcriptomics that the authors performed to elucidate the molecular pathways responsible for this increased resistance. They systemically deleted or inactivated genes involved in the SOS response in E. coli. They then subjected these mutants the same MIC assays as described previously. Surprisingly, none of the other SOS gene deletions resulted an increase in drug resistance, suggesting that the SOS response is not involved in this phenotype. This led the authors to focus on the localization of DNA PolI, which also participates in DNA damage repair. Using microscopy, they discovered that in the RecA deletion background, PolI co-localizes with the bacterial chromosome at much lower rates than wild-type. This led the authors to conclude that deletion of RecA hinders PolI and DNA repair. Although the authors do not provide a mechanism, this observation is nonetheless valuable for the field and can stimulate further investigations in the future.
In order to understand how RecA deletion affects cellular physiology, the authors performed RNA-seq on ampicillin-treated strains. Crucially, they discovered that in the RecA deletion strain, genes associated with antioxidative activity (cysJ, cysI, cysH, soda, sufD) and Base Excision Repair repair (mutH, mutY, mutM), which repairs oxidized forms of guanine, were all downregulated. The authors conclude that down-regulation of these genes might result in elevated levels of reactive oxygen species in the cells, which in turn, might drive the rise of resistance. Experimentally, they further demonstrated that treating the ∆recA strain with an antioxidant GSH prevents the rise of MICs. These observations will be useful for more detailed mechanistic follow-ups in the future.
Weaknesses:
Throughout the paper, the authors use language suggesting that ampicillin treatment of the ∆recA strain induces higher levels of mutagenesis inside the cells, leading to the rapid rise of resistance mutations. However, as the authors note, the mutants enriched by ampicillin selection can play a role in efflux and can thus change a bacterium's sensitivity to a wide range of antibiotics, in what is known as cross-resistance. The current data is not clear on whether the elevated "mutagenesis" is driven ampicillin selection or by a bona fide increase in mutation rate.
Furthermore, on a technical level, the authors employed WGS to identify resistance mutations in the treated ampicillin-treated wild-type and ∆recA strains. However, the WGS methodology described in the paper is inconsistent. Notably, wild-type WGS samples were picked from non-selective plates, while ΔrecA WGS isolates were picked from selective plates with 50 μg/mL ampicillin. Such an approach biases the frequency and identity of the mutations seen in the WGS and cannot be used to support the idea that ampicillin treatment induces higher levels of mutagenesis.
Finally, it is important to establish what the basal mutation rates of both the WT and ∆recA strains are. Currently, only the ampicillin-treated populations were reported. It is possible that the ∆recA strain has inherently higher mutagenesis than WT, with a larger subpopulation of resistant clones. Thus, ampicillin treatment might not in fact induce higher mutagenesis in ∆recA.
Comments on revisions:
Thank you for responding to the concerns raised previously. The manuscript overall has improved.
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Reviewer #2 (Public review):
Summary:
This study aims to demonstrate that E. coli can acquire rapid antibiotic resistance mutations in the absence of a DNA damage response. The authors employed a modified Adaptive Laboratory Evolution (ALE) workflow to investigate this, initiating the process by diluting an overnight culture 50-fold into an ampicillin selection medium. They present evidence that a recA- strain develops ampicillin resistance mutations more rapidly than the wild-type, as indicated by the Minimum Inhibitory Concentration (MIC) and mutation frequency. Whole-genome sequencing of recA- colonies resistant to ampicillin showed predominant inactivation of genes involved in the multi-drug efflux pump system, contrasting with wild-type mutations that seem to activate the chromosomal ampC cryptic promoter. Further analysis of mutants, including a lexA3 mutant incapable of inducing the SOS response, led the authors to conclude that the rapid evolution of antibiotic resistance occurs via an SOS-independent mechanism in the absence of recA. RNA sequencing suggests that antioxidative response genes drive the rapid evolution of antibiotic resistance in the recA- strain. They assert that rapid evolution is facilitated by compromised DNA repair, transcriptional repression of antioxidative stress genes, and excessive ROS accumulation.
Strengths:
The experiments are well-executed and the data appear reliable. It is evident that the inactivation of recA promotes faster evolutionary responses, although the exact mechanisms driving this acceleration remain elusive and deserve further investigation.
Weaknesses:
Some conclusions are overstated. For instance, the conclusion regarding the LexA3 allele, indicating that rapid evolution occurs in an SOS-independent manner (line 217), contradicts the introductory statement that attributes evolution to compromised DNA repair. The claim made in the discussion of Figure 3 that the hindrance of DNA repair in recA- is crucial for rapid evolution is at best suggestive, not demonstrative. Additionally, the interpretation of the PolI data implies its role, yet it remains speculative. In Figure 2A table, mutations in amp promoters are leading to amino acid changes! The authors' assertion that ampicillin significantly influences persistence pathways in the wild-type strain, affecting quorum sensing, flagellar assembly, biofilm formation, and bacterial chemotaxis, lacks empirical validation. Figure 1G suggests that recA cells treated with ampicillin exhibit a strong mutator phenotype; however, it remains unclear if this can be linked to the mutations identified in Figure 2's sequencing analysis.
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Reviewer #3 (Public review):
Summary:
In the present work, Zhang et al investigate involvement of the bacterial DNA damage repair SOS response in the evolution of beta-lactam drug resistance evolution in Escherichia coli. Using a combination of microbiological, bacterial genetics, laboratory evolution, next-generation, and live-cell imaging approaches, the authors propose short-term (transient) drug resistance evolution can take place in RecA-deficient cells in an SOS response-independent manner. They propose the evolvability of drug resistance is alternatively driven by the oxidative stress imposed by accumulation of reactive oxygen species and compromised DNA repair. Overall, this is a nice study that addresses a growing and fundamental global health challenge (antimicrobial resistance).
Strengths:
The authors introduce new concepts to antimicrobial resistance evolution mechanisms. They show short-term exposure to beta-lactams can induce durably fixed antimicrobial resistance mutations. They propose this is due to comprised DNA repair and oxidative stress. Antibiotic resistance evolution under transient stress is poorly studied, so the authors' work is a nice mechanistic contribution to this field.
Weaknesses:
The authors do not show any direct evidence of altered mutation rate or accumulated DNA damage in their model.
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Reviewer #1 (Public review):
Summary:
In this manuscript Spott et al. combine SARS-CoV-2 genomic data alongside granular mobility data to retrospectively evaluate the spread of SARS-CoV-2 alpha lineages throughout Germany and specifically Thuringia. They further prospectively identified districts with strong mobility links to the first district in which BQ.1.1 was observed to direct additional surveillance efforts to these districts. The additional surveillance effort resulted in the earlier identification of BQ.1.1 in districts with strong links to the district in which BQ.1.1 was first observed.
Strengths:
There are two important strengths of this work. The first, is the scale and detail in the data that has been generated an analyzed as part of this study. Specifically, the authors use 6,500 SARS-CoV-2 sequences and district level mobility data within Thuringia. I applaud the authors for making a subset of their analyses public e.g. on the associated micro react page.
Further, the main focus of the article is on the potential utility of mobility-directed surveillance sequence. While I may certainly be mistaken, I have not seen this proposed elsewhere, at least in the context of SARS-CoV-2. The authors were further able to test this concept in a real world setting during the emergence of BQ.1.1 and compare it to the "gold standard" of random sampling. This is a unique real-world evaluation of a novel surveillance sequencing strategy and there is considerable value in publishing this analysis. Given the increased focus on optimizing sampling strategies for genomic surveillance, this work provides a novel strategy and will hopefully motivate additional modeling and real-world implementations.
Weaknesses:
The article is quite strong and I find the analyses to generally be rigorous. Limitations of the analysis, particularly due to the fact that BQ.1.1 remained a low-prevalence variant, are adequately addressed. The results do not provide quantitative, definitive proof that mobility-guided sampling is an optimal strategy, but they also do not claim to nor do I think they need to to make an important contribution to the field.
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Reviewer #2 (Public review):
In the manuscript, the authors combine SARS-CoV-2 sequence data from a state in Germany and mobility data to help in understanding the movement of virus and the potential to help decide where to focus sequencing. The global expansion in sequencing capability is a key outcome of the public health response. However, there remains uncertainty how to maximise the insights the sequence data can give. Improved ability to predict the movement of emergent variants would be a useful public health outcome.
However, I remain unconvinced that changing surveillance strategies is necessarily sensible as it remains unclear what the ultimate benefit of variant hunting is. Decisions to adapt surveillance strategies should not be taken lightly as there are substantial benefits of maintaining a stable and as representative as possible, system over time. It's unclear what public health action would result of detecting a few more sequences of a variant. Once a variant has been identified (arguably anywhere in the world/region), we already have the necessary information to motivate the development of updated vaccines/monoclonals.
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Summary:
This paper describes a new in vitro model for DRG neurons that recapitulates several key differences between the peripheral and central branches of DRG axons in vivo. These differences include morphology (with one branch being thinner than the other), and regenerative capacity (with the peripheral branch displaying higher regenerative capacity). The authors analyze the abundance of various microtubule-associated protein (MAPs) in each branch, as well as the microtubule dynamics in each branch, and find significant differences between branches. Importantly, they found that a well-known conditioning paradigm (prior lesion of the peripheral branch improves the regenerative capacity of the central branch) is not only reproduced in this system but also leads to loss of the asymmetry of MAPs between branches. Zooming in on one MAP that shows differential abundance between the axons, they find that the severing enzyme Spastin is required for the asymmetry in microtubule dynamics and in regenerative capacity following a conditioning lesion.
Strengths:
The establishment of an experimental system that recapitulates DRG axon asymmetry in vitro is an important step that is likely to be useful for other studies. In addition, identifying key molecular signatures that differ between central and peripheral branches, and determining how they are lost following a conditioning lesion adds to our understanding of why peripheral axons have a better regenerative capacity. Last, the author's use of an in vivo model system to support some of their in vitro findings is a strength of this work.
Weaknesses:
The main weakness of the manuscript is that to a large degree, one of its main conclusions (MAP symmetry underlies differences in regenerative capacity) relies mainly on a correlation, without firmly establishing a causal link. However, this weakness is relatively minor because (1) it is partially addressed with the Spastin KO and (2) there isn't a trivial way to show a causal relationship in this case.
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Reviewer #2 (Public review):
Summary:
The authors set out to develop a tissue culture method in which to study the different regenerative abilities of the central and peripheral branch of sensory axons. Neurons developed a small and large branch, which have different regenerative abilities, different transport rates, and different microtubule properties. The study provides convincing evidence that the two axonal branches differ in a way to correspond to in vivo. The different regenerative abilities of the two branches are an important observation because until now it has not been clear whether this difference is intrinsic to the neuron and axons or due to differences in the environment surrounding the axons. The authors have then looked for molecular explanations of the differences between the branches. They find different transport rates and different microtubule dynamics. The different microtubule dynamics are explained by differing levels of spastin, an enzyme that severs microtubules encouraging dynamics.
Strengths:
The differences between the two branches are clearly shown, together with differences in transport, microtubule dynamics, and regeneration. The in vitro model is novel and could be widely used. The methods used are robust and generally accepted.
Weaknesses:
In order for the method to be used it needs to be better described. For instance what proportion of neurons develop just two axonal branches, one of which is different? How selective are the researchers in finding appropriate neurons?
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Reviewer #3 (Public review):
Summary:
In this manuscript, Costa and colleagues investigate how asymmetry in dorsal root ganglion (DRG) neurons is established. The authors developed an in vitro system that mimics the pseudo-unipolar morphology and asymmetry of DRG neurons during the regeneration of the peripheral and central branch axons. They suggest that central-like DRG axons exhibit a higher density of growing microtubules. By reducing the polymerization of microtubules in these central-like axons, they were able to eliminate the asymmetry in DRG neurons.
Strengths:
The authors point out a distinct microtubule-associated protein signature that differentiates between DRG neurons' central and peripheral axonal branches. Experimental results demonstrate that genetic deletion of spastin eliminated the differences in microtubule dynamics and axon regeneration between the central and peripheral branches.
Weaknesses:
While some of the data are compelling, experimental evidence only partially supports the main claims.
In its current form, the study is primarily descriptive and lacks convincing mechanistic insights. It misses important controls and further validation using 3D in vitro models.
Given the heterogeneity of dorsal root ganglion (DRG) neurons, it is unclear whether the in vitro model described in this study can be applied to all major classes of DRG neurons. Also unclear is the inconsistency with embryonic DRG cultures with embryonic (E)16 from rats and E13 from mice (spastin knockout and wild-type controls). Furthermore, the authors stated (line 393) that only a small subset of cultured DRG neurons exhibited a pseudo-unipolar morphology. The authors should include the percentage of the neurons that exhibit a pseudo-unipolar morphology.
The significance of studying microtubule polymerization to DRG asymmetry in vitro is questionable, especially considering the model's validity. The authors might consider eliminating the in vitro data and instead focus on characterizing DRG asymmetry in vivo both before and after a conditioning lesion. If the authors choose to retain the in vitro data, classifying the central and peripheral-like branches in cultured DRG neurons will require further in-depth characterization. Additional validation should be performed in adult DRG neuron cultures not aged in vitro.
The comparison of asymmetry associated with a regenerative response between in vitro and in vivo paradigms has significant limitations due to the nature of the in vitro culture system. When cultured in isolation, DRG neurons fail to form functional connections with appropriate postsynaptic target neurons (the central branch) or to differentiate the peripheral domains associated with the innervation of target organs. Rather than growing neurons on a flat, hard surface like glass, more physiologically relevant substrates and/or culturing conditions should be considered. This approach could help eliminate potential artifacts caused by plating adult DRG neurons on a flat surface. Additionally, the authors should consider replicating their findings in a 3D culture model or using dorsal root ganglia explants, where both centrally and peripherally projecting axons are present.
Panels 5H-J require additional processing with astrocyte markers to accurately define the lesion borders. Furthermore, including a lower magnification would facilitate a direct comparison of the lesion site. The use of cholera toxin subunit B (CTB) to trace dorsal column sensory axons is prone to misinterpretation, as the tracer accumulates at the axon's tip. This limitation makes it extremely challenging to distinguish between regenerating and degenerating axons.
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Reviewer #1 (Public review):
Summary of Key Findings:
The authors identified 20 ancient molluscan linkage groups (MLGs) that are largely conserved in other molluscan groups but highly dynamic and rearranged in chitons. This contrasts with the stability seen in other animal groups.
Significant chromosome rearrangements, fusions, and duplications were observed in chitons, particularly in the most basal clades like Lepidopleurida, indicating that chitons undergo more extensive genomic changes than expected.
Chitons exhibit extremely high levels of genomic heterozygosity, exceeding that of other molluscan species and even Lepidoptera. This presents challenges for assembling high-quality genomes but also points to genetic diversity as a driver of evolutionary processes.
Partial genome duplications, particularly in Liolophura japonica, extend the knowledge of gene duplication events within the broader Mollusca clade.
The paper speculates that these genomic rearrangements may contribute to maintaining species boundaries in sympatric and parapatric radiations, as observed in certain Acanthochitona species.
Strengths:
The use of high-quality genomic data, including four de novo genome assemblies, provides robust evidence for the conclusions.
The research challenges the common assumption that chitons are evolutionarily conservative, showing that their genomes are highly dynamic despite their morphological stasis.
The study adds to the understanding of how chromosomal rearrangements might contribute to speciation, a concept that can be applied to other taxa.
Limitations:
The paper acknowledges that the limited availability of high-quality genomes across molluscs may restrict the scope of comparative analyses. More genomic data from other molluscan groups could strengthen the conclusions.
The role of high heterozygosity in chitons is highlighted, but more information is needed to clarify how this affects genome assembly and evolutionary outcomes.
Implications for Future Research:
The research raises important questions about the relationship between genomic instability and phenotypic stasis, which can inform studies in other animal groups.
The findings call for a re-evaluation of how we define and measure biodiversity, particularly in "neglected" clades like chitons. Further studies could focus on linking the observed genomic changes to specific adaptive traits or ecological niches.
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Reviewer #2 (Public review):
Summary:
The authors provide four new annotated genomes for an important taxon within Mollusca known as Polyplacophora (chitons). They provide an impressive analysis showing syntenic relationships between the chromosomes of these four genomes but also other available chiton genome sequences and analysis of 20 molluscan linkage groups to expand this analysis across Mollusca.
Strengths:
The authors have selected particular chiton species for genome sequencing and annotation that expand what is known about genomes across portions of chiton phylogenetic diversity lacking genome sequences. The manuscript is well-written and illustrated in a concise manner. The figures are mostly clear, allowing a reader to visually compare the syntenic relationships of chromosomes, especially within chitons. Their phylogenetic analysis provides a simple manner to map important events in molluscan genome evolution. This study greatly expands what is known about molluscan and chiton comparative genomics.
Weaknesses:
I am not especially convinced that chitons have experienced more substantial genomic rearrangements or other genomic events than other molluscan classes, and for this reason, I did not personally find the title compelling: "Still waters run deep: Large scale genome rearrangements in the evolution of morphologically conservative Polyplacophora." Are the documented events "large scale genomic rearrangements"? It seems that mostly they found two cases of chromosome fusion, plus one apparent case of whole genome duplication. What do they mean by "Still waters run deep"? I have no idea. I guess they consider chitons to be morphologically conservative in their appearance and lifestyle so they are calling attention to this apparent paradox. However, most chiton genomes seem to be relatively conserved, but there are unexpected chromosome fusion events within a particular genus, Acanthochitona. Likewise, they found a large-scale gene duplication event in Acanthopleurinae, a different subfamily of chitons, which is quite interesting but these seem to be geologically recent events that do not especially represent the general pattern of genome evolution across this ancient molluscan taxon.
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Reviewer #1 (Public review):
Summary:
The authors attempted to dissect the function of a long non-coding RNA, lnc-FANCI-2, in cervical cancer. They profiled lnc-FANCI-2 in different cell lines and tissues, generated knockout cell lines, and characterized the gene using multiple assays.
Strengths:
A large body of experimental data has been presented and can serve as a useful resource for the scientific community, including transcriptomics and proteomics datasets. The reported results also span different parts of the regulatory network and open up multiple avenues for future research.
Weaknesses:
The write-up is somewhat unfocused and lacks deep mechanistic insights in some places.
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Reviewer #2 (Public review):
The study by Liu et al provides a functional analysis of lnc-FANCI-2 in cervical carcinogenesis, building on their previous discovery of FANCI-2 being upregulated in cervical cancer by HPV E7.
The authors conducted a comprehensive investigation by knocking out (KO) FANCI-2 in CaSki cells and assessing viral gene expression, cellular morphology, altered protein expression and secretion, altered RNA expression through RNA sequencing (verification of which by RT-PCR is well appreciated), protein binding, etc. Verification experiments by RT-PCR, Western blot, etc are notable strengths of the study.
The KO and KD were related to increased Ras signaling and EMT and reduced IFN-y/a responses.
Although the large amount of data is well acknowledged, it is a limitation that most data come from CaSki cells, in which FANCI-2 localization is different from SiHa cells and cancer tissues (Figure 1). The cytoplasmic versus nuclear localization is somewhat puzzling.
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Reviewer #3 (Public review):
Summary:
A long noncoding RNA, lnc-FANCI-2, was reported to be regulated by HPV E7 oncoprotein and a cell transcription factor, YY1 by this group. The current study focuses on the function of lnc-FANCI-2 in HPV-16 positive cervical cancer is to intrinsically regulate RAS signaling, thereby facilitating our further understanding of additional cellular alterations during HPV oncogenesis. The authors used advanced technical approaches such as KO, transcriptome and (IRPCRP) and LC- MS/MS analyses in the current study and concluded that KO Inc-FANCI-2 significantly increases RAS signaling, especially phosphorylation of Akt and Erk1/2.
Strengths:
(1) HPV E6E7 are required for full immortalization and maintenance of the malignant phenotype of cervical cancer, but they are NOT sufficient for full transformation and tumorigenesis. This study helps further understanding of other cellular alterations in HPV oncogenesis.
(2) lnc-FANCI-2 is upregulated in cervical lesion progression from CIN1, CIN2-3 to cervical cancer, cancer cell lines, and HPV transduced cell lines.
(3) Viral E7 of high-risk HPVs and host transcription factor YY1 are two major factors promoting lnc-FANCI-2 expression.
(4) Proteomic profiling of cytosolic and secreted proteins showed inhibition of MCAM, PODXL2, and ECM1 and increased levels of ADAM8 and TIMP2 in KO cells.
(5) RNA-seq analyses revealed that KO cells exhibited significantly increased RAS signaling but decreased IFN pathways.
(6) Increased phosphorylated Akt and Erk1/2, IGFBP3, MCAM, VIM, and CCND2 (cyclin D2) and decreased RAC3 were observed in KO cells.
Weaknesses:
(1) The authors observed the increased Inc-FANCI-2 in HPV 16 and 18 transduced cells, and other cervical cancer tissues as well, HPV-18 positive HeLa cells exhibited different expressions of Inc-FANCI-2.
(2) Previous studies and data in the current showed a steadily increased Inc-FANCI-2 during cancer progression, however, the authors did not observe significant changes in cell behaviors (both morphology and proliferation) in KO Inc-FANCI-2.
(3) The authors observed the significant changes of RAS signaling (downstream) in KO cells, but they provided limited interpretations of how these results contributed to full transformation or tumorigenesis in HPV-positive cancer.
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Reviewer #1 (Public review):
Summary:
The manuscript by Rühling et al analyzes the mode of entry of S. aureus into mammalian cells in culture. The authors propose a novel mechanism of rapid entry that involves the release of calcium from lysosomes via NAADP-stimulated activation of TPC1, which in turn causes lysosomal exocytosis; exocytic release of lysosomal acid sphingomyelinase (ASM) is then envisaged to convert exofacial sphingomyelin to ceramide. These events not only induce the rapid entry of the bacteria into the host cells but are also described to alter the fate of the intracellular S. aureus, facilitating escape from the endocytic vacuole to the cytosol.
Strengths:
The proposed mechanism is novel and could have important biological consequences.
Weaknesses:
Unfortunately, the evidence provided is unconvincing and insufficient to document the multiple, complex steps suggested. In fact, there appear to be numerous internal inconsistencies that detract from the validity of the conclusions, which were reached mostly based on the use of pharmacological agents of imperfect specificity.
Firstly, the release of calcium from lysosomes is not demonstrated. Localized changes in the immediate vicinity of lysosomes need to be measured to ascertain that these organelles are the source of cytosolic calcium changes. In fact, 9-phenantrol, which the authors find to be the most potent inhibitor of invasion and hence of the putative calcium changes, is not a blocker of lysosomal calcium release but instead blocks plasmalemmal TRPM4 channels. On the other hand, invasion is seemingly independent of external calcium. These findings are inconsistent with each other and point to non-specific effects of 9-phenantrol. The fact that ionomycin decreases invasion efficiency is taken as additional evidence of the importance of lysosomal calcium release. It is not clear how these observations support involvement of lysosomal calcium release and exocytosis; in fact treatment with the ionophore should itself have induced lysosomal exocytosis and stimulated, rather than inhibited invasion. Yet, manipulations that increase and others that decrease cytosolic calcium both inhibited invasion.
The proposed role of NAADP is based on the effects of "knocking out" TPC1 and on the pharmacological effects of Ned-19. It is noteworthy that TPC2, rather than TPC1, is generally believed to be the primary TPC isoform of lysosomes. Moreover, the gene ablation accomplished in the TPC1 "knockouts" is only partial and rather unsatisfactory. Definitive conclusions about the role of TPC1 can only be reached with proper, full knockouts. Even the pharmacological approach is unconvincing because the high doses of Ned-19 used should have blocked both TPC isoforms and presumably precluded invasion. Instead, invasion is reduced by only ≈50%. A much greater inhibition was reported using 9-phenantrol, the blocker of plasmalemmal calcium channels. How is the selective involvement of lysosomal TPC1 channels justified?
Invoking an elevation of NAADP as the mediator of calcium release requires measurements of the changes in NAADP concentration in response to the bacteria. This was not performed. Instead, the authors analyzed the possible contribution of putative NAADP-generating systems and reported that the most active of these, CD38, was without effect, while the elimination of SARM1, another potential source of NAADP, had a very modest (≈20%) inhibitory effect that may have been due to clonal variation, which was not ruled out. In view of these data, the conclusion that NAADP is involved in the invasion process seems unwarranted.
The involvement of lysosomal secretion is, again, predicated largely on the basis of pharmacological evidence. No direct evidence is provided for the insertion of lysosomal components into the plasma membrane, or for the release of lysosomal contents to the medium. Instead, inhibition of lysosomal exocytosis by vacuolin-1 is the sole source of evidence. However, vacuolin-1 is by no means a specific inhibitor of lysosomal secretion: it is now known to act primarily as a PIKfyve inhibitor and to cause massive distortion of the endocytic compartment, including gross swelling of endolysosomes. The modest (20-25%) inhibition observed when using synaptotagmin 7 knockout cells is similarly not convincing proof of the requirement for lysosomal secretion.
ASM is proposed to play a central role in the rapid invasion process. As above, most of the evidence offered in this regard is pharmacological and often inconsistent between inhibitors or among cell types. Some drugs affect some of the cells, but not others. It is difficult to reach general conclusions regarding the role of ASM. The argument is made even more complex by the authors' use of exogenous sphingomyelinase (beta-toxin). Pretreatment with the toxin decreased invasion efficiency, a seemingly paradoxical result. Incidentally, the effectiveness of the added toxin is never quantified/validated by directly measuring the generation of ceramide or the disappearance of SM.
The use of fluorescent analogs of sphingomyelin and ceramide is not well justified and it is unclear what conclusions can be derived from these observations. Despite the low resolution of the images provided, it appears as if the labeled lipids are largely in endomembrane compartments, where they would presumably be inaccessible to the secreted ASM. Moreover, considering the location of the BODIPY probe, the authors would be unable to distinguish intact sphingomyelin from its breakdown product, ceramide. What can be concluded from these experiments? Incidentally, the authors report only 10% of BODIPY-positive events after 10 min. What are the implications of this finding? That 90% of the invasion events are unrelated to sphingomyelin, ASM, and ceramide?
It is also unclear how the authors can distinguish lysenin entry into ruptured vacuoles from the entry of RFP-CWT, used as a criterion of bacterial escape. Surely the molecular weights of the probes are not sufficiently different to prevent the latter one from traversing the permeabilized membrane until such time that the bacteria escape from the vacuole.
Both SMase inhibitors (Figure 4C) and SMase pretreatment increased bacterial escape from the vacuole. The former should prevent SM hydrolysis and formation of ceramide, while the latter treatment should have the exact opposite effects, yet the end result is the same. What can one conclude regarding the need and role of the SMase products in the escape process?
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Reviewer #2 (Public review):
Summary:
In this manuscript, Ruhling et al propose a rapid uptake pathway that is dependent on lysosomal exocytosis, lysosomal Ca2+ and acid sphingomyelinase, and further suggest that the intracellular trafficking and fate of the pathogen is dictated by the mode of entry.
The evidence provided is solid, methods used are appropriate and results largely support their conclusions, but can be substantiated further as detailed below. The weakness is a reliance on chemical inhibitors that can be non-specific to delineate critical steps.
Specific comments:
A large number of experiments rely on treatment with chemical inhibitors. While this approach is reasonable, many of the inhibitors employed such as amitriptyline and vacuolin1 have other or non-defined cellular targets and pleiotropic effects cannot be ruled out. Given the centrality of ASM for the manuscript, it will be important to replicate some key results with ASM KO cells.
Most experiments are done in HeLa cells. Given the pathway is projected as generic, it will be important to further characterize cell type specificity for the process. Some evidence for a similar mechanism in other cell types S. aureus infects, perhaps phagocytic cell type, might be good.
I'm a little confused about the role of ASM on the surface. Presumably, it converts SM to ceramide, as the final model suggests. Overexpression of b-toxin results in the near complete absence of SM on phagosomes (having representative images will help appreciate this), but why is phagosomal SM detected at high levels in untreated conditions? If bacteria are engulfed by SM-containing membrane compartments, what role does ASM play on the surface? If surface SM is necessary for phagosomal escape within the cell, do the authors imply that ASM is tuning the surface SM levels to a certain optimal range? Alternatively, can there be additional roles for ASM on the cell surface? Can surface SM levels be visualized (for example, in Figure 4 E, F)?
Related to that, why is ASM activity on the cell surface important? Its role in non-infectious or other contexts can be discussed.
If SM removal is so crucial for uptake, can exocytosis of lysosomes alone provide sufficient ASM for SM removal? How much or to what extent is lysosomal exocytosis enhanced by initial signaling events? Do the authors envisage the early events in their model happening in localized confines of the PM, this can be discussed.
How are inhibitor doses determined? How efficient is the removal of extracellular bacteria at 10 min? It will be good to substantiate the cfu experiments for infectivity with imaging-based methods. Are the roles of TPC1 and TPC2 redundant? If so, why does silencing TPC1 alone result in a decrease in infectivity? For these and other assays, it would be better to show raw values for infectivity. Please show alterations in lysosomal Ca2+ at the doses of inhibitors indicated. Is lysosomal Ca2+ released upon S. aureus binding to the cell surface? Will be good to directly visualize this.
The precise identification of cytosolic vs phagosomal bacteria is not very easy to appreciate. The methods section indicates how this distinction is made, but how do the authors deal with partial overlaps and ambiguities generally associated with such analyses? Please show respective images. The number of events (individual bacteria) for the live cell imaging data should be clearly mentioned.
In the phagosome maturation experiments, what is the proportion of bacteria in Rab5 or Rab7 compartments at each time point? Will the decreased Rab7 association be accompanied by increased Rab5? Showing raw values and images will help appreciate such differences. Given the expertise and tools available in live cell imaging, can the authors trace Rab5 and Rab7 positive compartment times for the same bacteria?
The results with longer-term infection are interesting. Live cell imaging suggests that ASM-inhibited cells show accelerated phagosomal escape that reduces by 6 hpi. Where are the bacteria at this time point ? Presumably, they should have reached lysosomes. The relationship between cytosolic escape, replication, and host cell death is interesting, but the evidence, as presented is correlative for the populations. Given the use of live cell imaging, can the authors show these events in the same cell?
Given the inherent heterogeneity in uptake processes and the use of inhibitors in most experiments, the distinction between ASM-dependent and independent pathways might not be as clear-cut as the authors suggest. Some caution here will be good. Can the authors estimate what fraction of intracellular bacteria are taken up ASM-dependent?
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Reviewer #1 (Public review):
Summary:
Liang and Guan have studied the transport mechanism of Melbiose transporter MelB using the string method in collective variables and replica-exchange umbrella sampling simulations. The authors study the mechanism of substrate binding to the outward-facing state, conformational change of the transporter from outward-facing to inward-facing, and substrate unbinding from inward-facing state. In their analysis, they also highlight the effects of mutant D59C and the effect of sodium binding on the substrate transport process.
Strengths:
The authors employ a combination of string method and replica-exchange umbrella sampling simulation techniques to provide a complete map of the free energy landscape for sodium-coupled melibiose transport in MelB.
Weaknesses:
(1) Free energy barriers appear to be very high for a substrate transport process. In Figure 3, the transitions from IF (Inward facing) to OF (Outward facing) state appear to have a barrier of 12 kcal/mol. Other systems with mutant or sodium unbound have even higher barriers. This does not seem consistent with previous studies where transport mechanisms of transporters have been explored using molecular dynamics.
(2) Figure 2b: The PMF between images 20-30 shows the conformation change from OF to IF, where the occluded (OC) state is the highest barrier for transition. However, OC state is usually a stable conformation and should be in a local minimum. There should be free energy barriers between OF and OC and in between OC and IF.
(3) String method pathway is usually not the only transport pathway and alternate lower energy pathways should be explored. The free energy surface looks like it has not deviated from the string pathway. Longer simulations can help in the exploration of lower free energy pathways.
(4) The conformational change in transporters from OF to IF state is a complicated multi-step process. First, only 10 images in the string pathway are used to capture the transition from OF to IF state. I am not sure is this number is enough to capture the process. Second, the authors have used geodesic interpolation algorithm to generate the intermediate images. However, looking at Figure 3B, it looks like the transition pathway has not captured the occluded (OC) conformation, where the transport tunnel is closed at both the ends. Transporters typically follow a stepwise conformational change mechanism where OF state transitions to OC and then to IF state. It appears that the interpolation algorithm has created a hourglass-like state, where IF gates are opening and OF gates are closing simultaneously thereby creating a state where the transport tunnel is open on both sides of the membrane. These states are usually associated with high energy. References 30-42 cited in the manuscript reveal a distinct OC state for different transporters.
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Reviewer #2 (Public review):
Summary:
The manuscript by Liang and Guan provides an impressive attempt to characterize the conformational free energy landscape of a melibiose permease (MelB), a symporter member of major facilitator superfamily (MFS) of transporters. Although similar studies have been conducted previously for other members of MFS, each member or subfamily has its own unique features that make the employment of such methods quite challenging. While the methodology is indeed impressive, characterizing the coupling between large-scale conformational changes and substrate binding in membrane transporters is quite challenging and requires a sophisticated methodology. The conclusions obtained from the three sets of path-optimization and free energy calculations done by the authors are generally supported by the provided data and certainly add to our understanding of how sodium binding facilitates the transport of melibiose in MelB. However, the data is not generated reliably which questions the relevance of the conclusions as well. I particularly have some concerns regarding the implementation of the methodology that I will discuss below.
(1) In enhanced sampling techniques, often much attention is given to the sampling algorithm. Although the sampling algorithm is quite important and this manuscript has chosen an excellent pair: string method with swarms of trajectories (SMwST) and replica-exchange umbrella sampling (REUS) for this task, there are other important factors that must be taken into account. More specifically, the collective variables used and the preparation of initial conformations for sampling. I have objectives for both of these (particularly the latter) that I detail below. Overall, I am not confident that the free energy profiles generated (summarized in Figure 5) are reliable, and unfortunately, much of the data presented in this manuscript heavily relies on these free energy profiles.
(2) The authors state that they have had an advantage over other similar studies in that they had two endpoints of the string to work from experimental data. I agree that this is an advantage. However, this could lead to some dangerous flaws in the methodology if not appropriately taken into account. Proteins such as membrane transporters have many slow degrees of freedom that can be fully captured within tens of nanoseconds (90 ns was the simulation time used here for the REUS). Biased sampling allows us to overcome this challenge to some extent, but it is virtually impossible to take into account all slow degrees of freedom in the enhanced sampling protocol (e.g., the collective variables used here do not represent anything related to sidechain dynamics). Therefore, if one mixes initial conformations that form different initial structures (e.g., an OF state and an IF state from two different PDB files), it is very likely that despite all equilibration and relaxation during SMwST and REUS simulations, the conformations that come from different sources never truly mix. This is dangerous in that it is quite difficult to detect such inconsistencies and from a theoretical point of view it makes the free energy calculations impossible. Methods such as WHAM and its various offshoots all rely on overlap between neighboring windows to calculate the free energy difference between two windows and the overlap should be in all dimensions and not just the ones that we use for biasing. This is related to well-known issues such as hidden barriers and metastability. If one uses two different structures to generate the initial conformations, then the authors need to show their sampling has been long enough to allow the two sets of conformations to mix and overlap in all dimensions, which is a difficult task to do.
(3) I also have concerns regarding the choice of collective variables. The authors have split the residues in each transmembrane helix into the cyto- and periplasmic sides. Then they have calculated the mass center distance between the cytoplasmic sides of certain pairs of helices and have also done the same for the periplasmic side. Given the shape of a helix, this does not seem to be an ideal choice since rather than the rotational motion of the helix, this captures more the translational motion of the helix. However, the transmembrane helices are more likely to undergo rotational motion than the translational one.
(4) Convergence: String method convergence data does not show strong evidence for convergence (Figure S2) in my opinion. REUS convergence is also not discussed. No information is provided on the exchange rate or overlap between the windows.
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Reviewer #3 (Public review):
The paper from Liang and Guan details the calculation of the potential mean force for the transition between two key states of the melibiose (Mel) transporter MelB. The authors used the string method along with replica-exchange umbrella sampling to model the transition between the outward and inward-facing Mel-free states, including the binding and subsequent release of Mel. They find a barrier of ~6.8 kcal/mol and an overall free-energy difference of ~6.4 kcal/mol. They also investigate the same process without the co-transported Na+, finding a higher barrier, while in the D59C mutant, the barrier is nearly eliminated.
I found this to be an interesting and technically competent paper. I was disappointed actually to see that the authors didn't try to complete the cycle. I realize this is beyond the scope of the study as presented.
The results are in qualitative agreement with expectations from experiments. Could the authors try to make this comparison more quantitative? For example, by determining the diffusivity along the path, the authors could estimate transition rates.
Relatedly, could the authors comment on how typical concentration gradients of Mel and Na+ would affect these numbers?
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Reviewer #1 (Public review):
In their manuscript "PDGFRRa signaling regulates Srsf3 transcript binding to affect PI3K signaling and endosomal trafficking" Forman and colleagues use iMEPM cells to characterize the effects of PDGF signaling on alternative splicing. They first perform RNA-seq using a one-hour stimulation with Pdgf-AA in control and Srsf3 knockdown cells. While Srsf3 manipulation results in a sizeable number of DE genes, PDGF does not. They then turn to examine alternative splicing, due to findings from this lab. They find that both PDGF and Srsf3 contribute much more to splicing than transcription. They find that the vast majority of PDGF-mediated alternative splicing depends upon Srsf3 activity and that skipped exons are the most common events with PDGF stimulation typically promoting exon skipping in the presence of Srsf3. They used eCLIP to identify RNA regions bound to Srsf3. Under both PDGF conditions, the majority of peaks were in exons with +PDGF having a substantially greater number of these peaks. Interestingly, they find differential enrichment of sequence motifs and GC content in stimulated versus unstimulated cells. They examine 2 transcripts encoding PI3K pathway (enriched in their GO analysis) members: Becn1 and Wdr81. They then go on to examine PDGFRRa and Rab5, an endosomal marker, colocalization. They propose a model in which Srsf3 functions downstream of PDGFRRa signaling to, in part, regulate PDGFRa trafficking to the endosome. The findings are novel and shed light on the mechanisms of PDGF signaling and will be broadly of interest. This lab previously identified the importance of PDGF naling on alternative splicing. The combination of RNA-seq and eCLIP is an exceptional way to comprehensively analyze this effect. The results will be of great utility to those studying PDGF signaling or neural crest biology.
Comments on the revised version:
The authors have fully addressed my previous comments and I have no further concerns.
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Reviewer #2 (Public review):
Summary:
This manuscript builds upon the work of a previous study published by the group (Dennison, 2021) to further elucidate the coregulatory axis of Srsf3 and PDGFRa on craniofacial development. The authors in this study investigated the molecular mechanisms by which PDGFRa signaling activates the RNA-binding protein Srsf3 to regulate alternative splicing (AS) and gene expression (GE) necessary for craniofacial development. PDGFRa signaling-mediated Srsf3 phosphorylation drives its translocation into the nucleus and affect binding affinity to different proteins and RNA, but the exact molecular mechanisms were not known. The authors performed RNA sequencing on immortalized mouse embryonic mesenchyme (MEPM) cells treated with shRNA targeting 3' UTR of Srsf3 or scramble shRNA (to probe AS and DE events that are Srsf3 dependent) and with and without PDGF-AA ligand treatment (to probe AS and DE events that are PDGFRa signaling dependent). They found that PDGFRa signaling has more effect on AS than on DE. A matching eCLIP-seq experiment was performed to investigate how Srsf3 binding sites change with and without PDGFRa signaling.
Strengths:
(1) The work builds well upon the previous data and the authors employ a variety of appropriate techniques to answer their research questions.
(2) The authors show that Srsf3 binding pattern within the transcript as well as binding motifs change significantly upon PDGFRa signaling, providing a mechanistic explanation for the significant changes in AS.
(3) By combining RNA-seq and eCLIP datasets together, the authors identified a list of genes that are directly bound by Srsf3 and undergo changes in GE and/or AS. Two examples are Becn1 and Wdr81, which are involved in early endosomal trafficking.
Weaknesses:
(1) The authors identify two genes whose AS are directly regulated by Srsf3 and involved in endosomal trafficking; however, they do not validate the differential AS results and whether changes in these genes can affect endosomal trafficking. In Figure 6, they show that PDGFRa signaling is involved in endosome size and Rab5 colocalization, but do not show how Srsf3 and the two genes are involved.
(2) The proposed model does not account for other proteins mediating the activation of Srsf3 after Akt phosphorylation. How do we know this is a direct effect (and not secondary or tertiary effect)?
This is a thoroughly revised manuscript. I would like to congratulate the authors to have invested a lot of time, resources, new data, and a more refined discussion to make this a compelling piece of work. I have no further concerns.
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Reviewer #1 (Public review):
Summary:
The manuscript titled "Household clustering and seasonal genetic variation of Plasmodium falciparum at the community-level in The Gambia" presents a valuable genetic spatio-temporal analysis of malaria-infected individuals from four villages in The Gambia, covering the period between December 2014 and May 2017. The majority of samples were analyzed using a SNP barcode with the Spotmalaria panel, with a subset validated through WGS. Identity-by-descent (IBD) was calculated as a measure of genetic relatedness and spatio-temporal patterns of the proportion of highly related infections were investigated. Related clusters were detected at the household level, but only within a short time period.
Strengths:
This study offers a valuable dataset, particularly due to its longitudinal design and the inclusion of asymptomatic cases. The laboratory analysis using the Spotmalaria platform combined and supplemented with WGS is solid, and the authors show a linear correlation between the IBD values determined with both methods, although other studies have reported that at least 200 SNPs are required for IBD analysis. Data-analysis pipelines were created for (1) variant filtering for WGS and subsequent IBD analysis, and (2) creating a consensus barcode from the spot malaria panel and WGS data and subsequent SNP filtering and IBD analysis.
Weaknesses:
Further refining the data could enhance its impact on both the scientific community and malaria control efforts in The Gambia.
(1) The manuscript would benefit from improved clarity and better explanation of results to help readers follow more easily. Despite familiarity with genotyping, WGS, and IBD analysis, I found myself needing to reread sections. While the figures are generally clear and well-presented, the text could be more digestible. The aims and objectives need clearer articulation, especially regarding the rationale for using both SNP barcode and WGS (is it to validate the approach with the barcode, or is it to have less missing data?). In several analyses, the purpose is not immediately obvious and could be clarified.
(2) Some key results are only mentioned briefly in the text without corresponding figures or tables in the main manuscript, referring only to supplementary figures, which are usually meant for additional detail, but not main results. For example, data on drug resistance markers should be included in a table or figure in the main manuscript.
(3) The study uses samples from 2 different studies. While these are conducted in the same villages, their study design is not the same, which should be addressed in the interpretation and discussion of the results. Between Dec 2014 and Sept 2016, sampling was conducted only in 2 villages and at less frequent intervals than between Oct 2016 to May 2017. The authors should assess how this might have impacted their temporal analysis and conclusions drawn. In addition, it should be clarified why and for exactly in which analysis the samples from Dec 2016 - May 2017 were excluded as this is a large proportion of your samples.
(4) Based on which criteria were samples selected for WGS? Did the spatiotemporal spread of the WGS samples match the rest of the genotyped samples? I.e. were random samples selected from all times and places, or was it samples from specific times/places selected for WGS?
(5) The manuscript would benefit from additional detail in the methods section.
(6) Since the authors only do the genotype replacement and build consensus barcode for 199 samples, there is a bias between the samples with consensus barcode and those with only the genotyping barcode. How did this impact the analysis?
(7) The linear correlation between IBD-values of barcode vs genome is clear. However, since you do not use absolute values of IBD, but a classification of related (>=0.5 IBD) vs. unrelated (<0.5), it would be good to assess the agreement of this classification between the 2 barcodes. In Figure S6 there seem to be quite some samples that would be classified as unrelated by the consensus barcode, while they have IBD>0.5 in the Genome-IBD; in other words, the barcode seems to be underestimating relatedness.<br /> a. How sensitive is this correlation to the nr of SNPs in the barcode?
(8) With the sole focus on IBD, a measure of genetic relatedness, some of the conclusions from the results are speculative.<br /> a. Why not include other measures such as genetic diversity, which relates to allele frequency analysis at the population level (using, for example, nucleotide diversity)? IBD and the proportion of highly related pairs are not a measure of genetic diversity. Please revise the manuscript and figures accordingly.<br /> b. Additionally, define what you mean by "recombinatorial genetic diversity" and explain how it relates to IBD and individual-level relatedness.<br /> c. Recombination is one potential factor contributing to the loss of relatedness over time. There are several other factors that could contribute, such as mobility/gene flow, or study-specific limitations such as low numbers of samples in the low transmission season and many months apart from the high transmission samples.<br /> d. By including other measures such as linkage disequilibrium you could further support the statements related to recombination driving the loss of relatedness.
(9) While the authors conclude there is no seasonal pattern in the drug-resistant markers, one can observe a big fluctuation in the dhps haplotypes, which go down from 75% to 20% and then up and down again later. The authors should investigate this in more detail, as dhps is related to SP resistance, which could be important for seasonal malaria chemoprofylaxis, especially since the mutations in dhfr seem near-fixed in the population, indicating high levels of SP resistance at some of the time points.
(10) I recommend that raw data from genotyping and WGS should be deposited in a public repository.
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Reviewer #2 (Public review):
Summary:
Malaria transmission in the Gambia is highly seasonal, whereby periods of intense transmission at the beginning of the rainy season are interspersed by long periods of low to no transmission. This raises several questions about how this transmission pattern impacts the spatiotemporal distribution of circulating parasite strains. Knowledge of these dynamics may allow the identification of key units for targeted control strategies, the evaluation of the effect of selection/drift on parasite phenotypes (e.g., the emergence or loss of drug resistance genotypes), and analyze, through the parasites' genetic nature, the duration of chronic infections persisting during the dry season. Using a combination of barcodes and whole genome analysis, the authors try to answer these questions by making clever use of the different recombination rates, as measured through the proportion of genomes with identity-by-descent (IBD), to investigate the spatiotemporal relatedness of parasite strains at different spatial (i.e., individual, household, village, and region) and temporal (i.e., high, low, and the corresponding the transitions) levels. The authors show that a large fraction of infections are polygenomic and stable over time, resulting in high recombinational diversity (Figure 2). Since the number of recombination events is expected to increase with time or with the number of mosquito bites, IBD allows them to investigate the connectivity between spatial levels and to measure the fraction of effective recombinational events over time. The authors demonstrate the epidemiological connectivity between villages by showing the presence of related genotypes, a higher probability of finding similar genotypes within the same household, and how parasite-relatedness gradually disappears over time (Figure 3). Moreover, they show that transmission intensity increases during the transition from dry to wet seasons (Figure 4). If there is no drug selection during the dry season and if resistance incurs a fitness cost it is possible that alleles associated with drug resistance may change in frequency. The authors looked at the frequencies of six drug-resistance haplotypes (aat1, crt, dhfr, dhps, kelch13, and mdr1), and found no evidence of changes in allele frequencies associated with seasonality. They also find chronic infections lasting from one month to one and a half years with no dependence on age or gender.
The use of genomic information and IBD analytic tools provides the Control Program with important metrics for malaria control policies, for example, identifying target populations for malaria control and evaluation of malaria control programs.
Strength:
The authors use a combination of high-quality barcodes (425 barcodes representing 101 bi-allelic SNPs) and 199 high-quality genome sequences to infer the fraction of the genome with shared Identity by Descent (IBD) (i.e. a metric of recombination rate) over several time points covering two years. The barcode and whole genome sequence combination allows full use of a large dataset, and to confidently infer the relatedness of parasite isolates at various spatiotemporal scales.
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Reviewer #3 (Public review):
This study aimed to investigate the impact of seasonality on the malaria parasite population genetic. To achieve this, the researchers conducted a longitudinal study in a region characterized by seasonal malaria transmission. Over a 2.5-year period, blood samples were collected from 1,516 participants residing in four villages in the Upper River Region of The Gambia and tested the samples for malaria parasite positivity. The parasites from the positive samples were genotyped using a genetic barcode and/or whole genome sequencing, followed by a genetic relatedness analysis.
The study identified three key findings:
(1) The parasite population continuously recombines, with no single genotype dominating, in contrast to viral populations;
(2) The relatedness of parasites is influenced by both spatial and temporal distances; and
(3) The lowest genetic relatedness among parasites occurs during the transition from low to high transmission seasons. The authors suggest that this latter finding reflects the increased recombination associated with sexual reproduction in mosquitoes.
The results section is well-structured, and the figures are clear and self-explanatory. The methods are adequately described, providing a solid foundation for the findings. While there are no unexpected results, it is reassuring to see the anticipated outcomes supported by actual data. The conclusions are generally well-supported; however, the discussion on the burden of asymptomatic infections falls outside the scope of the data, as no specific analysis was conducted on this aspect and was not stated as part of the aims of the study. Nonetheless, the recommendation to target asymptomatic infections is logical and relevant.
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Reviewer #1 (Public review):
Summary:
This manuscript describes a novel magnetic steering technique to target human adipose derived mesenchymal stem cells (hAMSC) or induce pluripotent stem cells to the TM (iPSC-TM). The authors show that delivery of the stem cells lowered IOP, increased outflow facility, and increased TM cellularity.
Strengths:
The technique is novel and shows promise as a novel therapeutic to lower IOP in glaucoma. hAMSC are able to lower IOP below the baseline as well as increase outflow facility above baseline with no tumorigenicity. These data will have a positive impact on the field and will guide further research using hAMSC in glaucoma models.
Weaknesses:
The transgenic mouse model of glaucoma the authors used did not show ocular hypertensive phenotypes at 6-7 months of age as previously reported. Therefore, if there is no pathology in these animals the authors did not show a restoration of function, but rather a decrease in pressure below normal IOP.
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Reviewer #2 (Public review):
Summary:
This observational study investigates the efficacy of intracameral injected human stem cells as a means to re-functionalize the trabecular meshwork for the restoration of intraocular pressure homeostasis. Using a murine model of glaucoma, human adipose-derived mesenchymal stem cells are shown to be biologically safer and functionally superior at eliciting a sustained reduction in intraocular pressure (IOP). The authors conclude that the use of human adipose-derived mesenchymal stem cells has the potential for long-term treatment of ocular hypertension in glaucoma.
Strengths:
A noted strength is the use of a magnetic steering technique to direct injected stem cells to the iridocorneal angle. An additional strength is the comparison of efficacy between two distinct sources of stem cells: human adipose-derived mesenchymal vs. induced pluripotent cell derivatives. Utilizing both in vivo and ex vivo methodology coupled with histological evidence of introduced stem cell localization provides a consistent and compelling argument for a sustainable impact exogenous stem cells may have on the re-functionalization of a pathologically compromised TM.
Weaknesses:
A noted weakness of the study, as pointed out by the authors, includes the unanticipated failure of the genetic model to develop glaucoma-related pathology (elevated IOP, TM cell changes). While this is most unfortunate, it does temper the conclusion that exogenous human adipose derived mesenchymal stem cells may restore TM cell function. Given that TM cell function was not altered in their genetic model, it is difficult to say with any certainty that the introduced stem cells would be capable of restoring pathologically altered TM function. A restoration effect remains to be seen. Another noted complication to these findings is the observation that sham intracameral-injected saline control animals all showed elevated IOP and reduced outflow facility, compared to WT or Tg untreated animals, which allowed for more robust statistically significant outcomes. Additional comments/concerns that the authors may wish to address are elaborated in the Private Review section.
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Reviewer #3 (Public review):
Summary:
The purpose of the current manuscript was to investigate a magnetic cell steering technique for efficiency and tissue-specific targeting, using two types of stem cells, in a mouse model of glaucoma. As the authors point out, trabecular meshwork (TM) cell therapy is an active area of research for treating elevated intraocular pressure as observed in glaucoma. Thus, further studies determining the ideal cell choice for TM cell therapy is warranted. The experimental protocol of the manuscript involved the injection of either human adipose derived mesenchymal stem cells (hAMSCs) or induced pluripotent cell derivatives (iPSC-TM cells) into a previously reported mouse glaucoma model, the transgenic MYOCY437H mice and wild-type littermates followed by the magnetic cell steering. Numerous outcome measures were assessed and quantified including IOP, outflow facility, TM cellularity, retention of stem cells, and the inner wall BM of Schlemm's canal.
Strengths:
All of these analyses were carefully carried out and appropriate statistical methods were employed. The study has clearly shown that the hAMSCs are the cells of choice over the iPSC-TM cells, the latter of which caused tumors in the anterior chamber. The hAMSCs were shown to be retained in the anterior segment over time and this resulted in increased cellular density in the TM region and a reduction in IOP and outflow facility. These are all interesting findings and there is substantial data to support it.
Weaknesses:
However, where the study falls short is in the MYOCY437H mouse model of glaucoma that was employed. The authors clearly state that a major limitation of the study is that this model, in their hands, did not exhibit glaucomatous features as previously reported, such as a significant increase in IOP, which was part of the overall purpose of the study. The authors state that it is possible that "the transgene was silenced in the original breeders". The authors did not show PCR, western blot, or immuno of angle tissue of the tg to determine transgenic expression (increased expression of MYOC was shown in the angle tissue of the transgenics in the original paper by Zode et al, 2011). This should be investigated given that these mice were rederived. Thus, it is clearly possible that these are not transgenic mice. If indeed they are transgenics, the authors may want to consider the fact that in the Zode paper, the most significant IOP elevation in the mutant mice was observed at night and thus this could be examined by the authors. Other glaucomatous features of these mice could also have been investigated such as loss of RGCs, to further determine their transgenic phenotype. Finally, while increased cellular density in the TM region was observed, proliferative markers could be employed to determine if the transplanted cells are proliferating.
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The manuscript "Interplay of condensate material properties and chromatin heterogeneity governs nuclear condensate ripening" presents experiments and theory to explain the dynamic behavior of nuclear condensates. The authors present experimental data that shows the size of multiple artificially induced condensates as a function of time for various conditions. They identify different dynamic regimes, which all differ from traditional Ostwald ripening. By careful analysis and comparison with a quantitative model, the authors conclude that the elastic effects of the chromatin are relevant and the interplay between (heterogeneous) elasticity and surface tension governs the droplets' behavior. However, since they apply a simple model to a complex system, I think that the work is sometimes prone to over-interpretation, which I detail below. In summary, since droplet growth in a heterogeneous, elastic environment is unavoidable for condensates, this work achieves an important step toward understanding this complex setting. The work will likely stimulate more experiments (using different methods or alternative settings) as well as theory (accounting for additional effects, like spatial correlations).
Strengths:
A particularly strong point of the work is the tight integration between experiment and theory. Both parts are explained well at an appropriate level with more details in the methods section and the supplementary information. I cannot comment much on the experiments, but they seem convincing to me and the authors quantify the relevant parameters. Concerning the theory, they derive a model at the appropriate level of description. The analysis of the model is performed and explained well. Even though spatial correlations are not taken into account, the model will serve as a useful basis for developing more complicated models in the future. It is also worth mentioning that the clear classification into different growth regimes is helpful since such results, with qualitative predictions for parameter dependencies, likely also hold in more complex scenarios.
Weaknesses:
I think that the manuscript would profit from more precise definitions and explanations in multiple points, as detailed below. Clearly, not all these points can be fully incorporated in a model at this point, but I think it would be helpful to mention weaknesses in the manuscript and to discuss the results a bit more carefully.
(1) The viscosity analysis likely over-interprets the data. First, the FRAP curves do not show clear exponential behavior. For Figure 1C, there are at least two time scales and it is not clear to me why the shorter time scale right after bleaching is not analyzed. If the measured time scale were based on the early recovery, the differences between the two cases would likely be very small. For Figure 1D, the recovery is marginal, so it is not clear how reliable the measurements are. More generally, the analysis was performed on condensates of very different sizes, which can surely affect the measurements; see https://doi.org/10.7554/eLife.68620 for many details on using FRAP to analyze condensate dynamics. Second, the relaxation dynamics are likely not purely diffusive in a viscous environment since many condensates show elastic properties (https://doi.org/10.1126/science.aaw4951). I could very well imagine that the measured recovery time is related to the viscoelastic time scale. Third, the assumption of the Stokes-Einstein-Sutherland equation to relate diffusivity and viscosity is questionable because of viscoelasticity and the fact that the material is clearly interacting, so free diffusion is probably not expected.
(2) A large part of the paper is spent on the difference between different dynamic regimes, which are called "fusion", "ripening", and "diffusion-based" (with slightly different wording in different parts). First, I would welcome consistent language, e.g., using either fusion or coalescence. Second, I would welcome an early, unambiguous definition of the regimes. A definition is given at the end of page 2, but this definition is not clear to me: Does the definition pertain to entire experiments (e.g., is something called "fusion" if any condensates fuse at any time in the experiment?), or are these labels used for different parts of the experiment (e.g., would the data in Figure 1H first be classified as "ripening" and then "diffusion-based")? More generally, the categorization seems to depend on the observed system size (or condensate count) and time scale. Third, I find the definition of the ripening time a bit strange since it is clearly correlated with droplet size. Is this dependency carefully analyzed in the subsequent parts?
(3) The effect of the elastic properties of the chromatin is described by a Neo-Hookean model, but the strains R/\xi used in the theory are of the order of 100, which is huge. At such high strains, the Neo-Hookean model essentially has a constant pressure 5E/6, so the mesh size \xi does not matter. It is not clear to me whether chromatin actually exhibits such behavior, and I find it curious that the authors varied the stiffness E but not the mesh size \xi when explaining the experiments in the last section although likely both parameters are affected by the experimental perturbations. In any case, https://doi.org/10.1073/pnas.2102014118 shows that non-linear elastic effects related to breakage and cavitation could set in, which might also be relevant to the problem described here. In particular, the nucleation barrier discussed in the later part of the present manuscript might actually be a cavitation barrier due to elastic confinement. In any case, I would welcome a more thorough discussion of these aspects (in particular the large strains).
(4) The description of nucleation on page 7 is sloppy and might be misleading. First, at first reading I understood the text as if droplets of any radius could nucleate with probability p_nuc related to Eq. 7. This must be wrong since large droplets have ΔG<0 implying p_nuc > 1. Most likely, the nucleation rate only pertains to the critical radius (which is what might be meant by R_0, but it is unclear from the description). In this case, the critical radius and its dependence on parameters should probably be discussed. It might also help to give the value of the supersaturation S in terms of the involved concentrations, and it should be clarified whether P_E depends on R_0 or not (this might also relate to the cavitation barrier raised in point 3 above). Secondly, it is a bit problematic that E is sampled from a normal distribution, which allows for negative stiffnesses! More importantly, the exact sampling protocol is important since sampling more frequently (in the simulations) leads to a larger chance of hitting a soft surrounding, which facilitates nucleation. I could not find any details on the sampling in the numerical simulations, but I am convinced that it is a crucial aspect. I did find a graphical representation of the situation in Figure S4A, but I think it is misleading since there is no explicit space in the model and stiffnesses are not correlated.
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Summary:
The authors used a chemical linker to induce phase separation in U2OS cell nuclei with two different proteins, a coiled-coil protein (Mad1) and a disordered domain (from LAF-1), whose condensates were purported to have different material properties. First, they performed Fluorescence Recovery After Photobleaching (FRAP) and estimated the viscosity via the Stokes-Einstein equation. Combined with droplet fusion assays, this yielded an estimate of the surface tension, wherein the disordered condensates were found to have 130 times higher surface tension than the coiled-coil condensates. Confocal fluorescence microscopy was used to follow condensates over time, enabling classification of growth events as either fusion-, ripening-, or diffusion-based, and subsequent comparison of the relative abundances of these growth events between the two condensate types. Coiled-coil condensates grew primarily by diffusive processes, whereas disordered condensates grew primarily by ripening processes. The coarsening rates were described by growth exponents extracted from power-law fits of average normalized condensate radius over time. In both cases, these growth exponents were smaller than those predicted by theory, leading the authors to propose that nuclear condensate growth is generally suppressed by chromatin mechanics, as found in previous studies albeit with different exponents. The authors developed a theory to understand how the extent of this effect may depend on condensate material properties like surface tension. Treating chromatin as a neo-Hookean elastic solid, the authors assume a form of mechanical pressure that plateaus with increasing condensate size, and the resulting theory is used to analyze the observed condensate growth dynamics. A linearized extension of the theory is used to distinguish between suppressed, elastic, and Ostwald ripening. Finally, the authors consider the impact of different chromatin environments on condensate growth patterns and dynamics, which is achieved experimentally with another cell type (HeLa) and with a drug that decondenses chromatin (TSA). They find that condensate growth patterns are not significantly changed in either condensate type, but that the number of condensates nucleated and their related growth exponent are more sensitive to variations in chromatin stiffness in the coiled-coil system due to its low surface tension.
Strengths:
This work provides evidence that nuclear condensates can coarsen not only by fusion but also by continuous diffusive growth processes, predominant in coiled-coil condensates, and ripening, predominant in disordered condensates. Across these different condensate types and coarsening mechanisms, the authors find growth exponents lower than theoretical expectations, reinforcing the notion that elastic media can suppress condensate growth in the nucleus. Combined with theory, these observed differences in growth patterns and rates are argued to originate from differences in material properties, namely, surface tension relative to local chromatin stiffness. The authors further suggest that the few ripening events that are seen in coiled-coil condensates may be elastic in nature due to gradients in chromatin stiffness as opposed to Ostwald ripening. If this assertion proves to be robust, it would mark an early observation of elastic ripening in living cells.
Weaknesses:
(1) The assertion that nuclear condensates experience an external pressure from the chromatin network implies that chromatin should be excluded from the condensates (Nott et al., Molecular Cell (2015); Shin et al., Cell (2018)). This has not been shown or discussed here. While Movie 1 suggests the coiled-coil condensates may exclude chromatin, Movie 2 suggests the disordered condensates do not. LAF-1, as an RNA helicase, interacts with RNA, and RNA can be associated with chromatin in the nucleus. RNA can also modulate droplet viscosity. The authors' analysis of the disordered condensate data only makes sense if these condensates exclude chromatin, which they have not demonstrated, and which appears not to be the case.
(2) Critical physical parameters like viscosity and surface tension have not been directly measured but rather are estimated indirectly using FRAP and the Stokes-Einstein equation. While not uncommon in the field, this approach is flawed as droplet viscosity is not simply determined by the size of the composing particles. Rather, in polymeric systems, viscosity strongly depends on the local protein concentration and intermolecular interactions (Rubinstein & Semenov Macromolecules (2001)). This unjustified approach propagates to the surface tension estimate since only the ratio of viscosity to surface tension is explicitly measured. Since the paper's conclusions strongly hinge on the magnitude of the surface tension, a more accurate estimate or direct measurement of this salient material property is called for.
(3) The phase diagram of growth modes very much depends on the assumption of neo-Hookean elasticity of the chromatin network. This assumption is poorly justified and calls into question the general conclusions about possible growth phases. The authors need to either provide evidence for neo-Hookean elasticity, or, alternatively, consider a model in which strain stiffening or thinning continues as droplets grow, which would likely lead to very different conclusions, and acknowledge this uncertainty.
(4) There is limited data for the elastic ripening claim. In Figure 3E, only one data point resides in the elastic ripening (δ < 0) range, with a few data points very close to zero.
(5) The authors claim that "our work shows that the elastic chromatin network can stabilize condensates against Ostwald ripening but only when condensate surface tension is low." This claim also depends on the details of the chosen neo-Hookean model of chromatic elasticity, and it is not studied here whether these results are robust to other models.
(6) It is also not clear how the total number of Mad1 proteins and LAF-1 disordered regions change while the condensates evolve with time. As the experiments span longer than 6 hours, continued protein production could lead to altered condensate coarsening dynamics. For example, continued production of Mad1 can lead to the growth of all Mad1 condensates, mimicking the diffusive growth process.
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Summary:
Enterobacteriaceae produce microcins to target their competitors. Using informatics approaches, the authors identified 12 new microcins. They expressed them in E. coli, demonstrating that the microcins have antimicrobial activity against other microbes, including plant pathogens and the ESKAPE pathogens Pseudomonas aeruginosa and Acinetobacter baumannii.
Strengths:
Overall, this study has the merit of identifying new potential antimicrobial molecules that could be used to target important pathogens. The bioinformatics analysis, the expression system used, and the antimicrobial assays performed are solid, and the data presented are convincing. This work will set the basis for new studies to investigate the potential role of these microcins in vivo.
Weaknesses:
The work has been performed in vitro, which is a valid approach for identifying the antimicrobial peptides and assessing their antimicrobial activity. Future studies will need to address whether these new microcins exhibit antimicrobial activity in vivo (e.g., in the context of infection models), and to identify the targets (receptor and mechanisms of action) for the new microcins.
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Reviewer #2 (Public review):
Mortzfeld et al. describe their study of class IIb microcins. Furthering our awareness of the presence and action of microcins is an important line of research. However, several issues related to the premise, sequence analysis, and validation require attention to support the claims.
(1) Previous studies have been published on the broader distribution of microcins across bacteria. The software has been published for their identification. Comparison to this software and/or discussion of previous work should be included to place this work in the context of the field.
(2) It is not clear how immunity proteins were identified and there does not appear to be functional confirmation to show these predicted immunity proteins are real. Thus, it is premature to state that immunity genes have been found. This may also confound some of the validation studies below if proper immunity proteins have not been included.
(3) Please show the nt alignment used to generate the tree. Without seeing it, one would guess that the sequences are either quite similar (making the results from this study less novel) or there would be concerns that the phylogenetic relationship derived from the nt alignment is spurious.
(4) Figure 1 B-C: There are numerous branches that do not have phylogenetic support (values <50%). These are not statistically valid phylogenetic relationships and should be collapsed. The resulting tree should be used in the description of clades.
(5) The discovered microcins are not being directly tested since they are expressed heterologous and reliant on non-native modification systems. The results present the statement that novel microcins have been validated. This should be described accordingly.
(6) The key finding of this paper is the claim that 12 novel class IIb microcins have been validated. To substantiate this claim, original images showing evidence of antibacterial activity must be made available rather than a presence/absence chart. The negative controls for this table are unclear and should be included with the original images.
(7) Further data for the purified microcin is needed. The purification method described is standard practice and should allow for product quantification, which should be included. Standard practice includes an SDS page showing the purity of the microcin, or at least the TEV digest to show microcin has been produced, and importantly a control sample (scrambled sequence, empty vector purification, etc) to show that observed activity (Figure 2B) is not from a purification carry over. This data should be included to support that microcin has been purified and is active.
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Reviewer #3 (Public review):
Summary:
In this study, several novel class IIb microcin biosynthetic gene clusters have been discovered by specific homology searches and manual curation. Using a specific E. coli expression system, the microcins were expressed and conjugated to monoglycosylated enterobactin as siderophore moiety. While this synthetic biology approach cannot account for other siderophores being coupled to the microcin core peptide in the original producing strains, it nonetheless allows for a general screening for the activity of the heterologously produced compounds. Through this approach, the activity of several predicted microcins has been confirmed and three novel class IIb microcin clades were identified.
Strengths:
The experimental design is sound, the results are corroborated by suitable controls, and the findings have a high level of novelty and significance. Furthermore, the comments of the initial round of peer review have been answered satisfactorily by the authors.
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Reviewer #1 (Public review):
Summary:
This study investigates the role of CD131, a receptor subunit for GM-CSF and IL-3, in ulcerative colitis pathogenesis using a DSS-induced murine colitis model. By comparing wild-type and CD131-deficient mice, the authors demonstrate that CD131 contributes to DSS-induced colitis, working in concert with tissue-infiltrating macrophages.
Strengths:
The research shows that CD131's influence on macrophage and T cell chemotaxis is mediated by CCL4. The authors conclude by proposing a pro-inflammatory role for CD131 in murine colitis and suggest potential clinical relevance in human inflammatory bowel disease.
Weaknesses:
The statistical association between increased CD131 expression and clinical IBD was not observed in Table 1, indicating that the main results from animal experiments were not reproduced in human subjects. Additionally, due to the absence of experimental results regarding the downstream signaling pathways through CD131, it is difficult to infer the precise differentiated outcomes of this study. Furthermore, the effects of CD131 on immune cells other than macrophages were not presented, and the results specific to macrophage-selective CD131 were not shown. Therefore, I conclude that it is challenging to provide a detailed review as there is a lack of supporting evidence for the core arguments made in this paper.
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Reviewer #2 (Public review):
Summary:
This study investigates the potential role of CD131, a cytokine receptor subunit shared by GM-CSF and IL-3, in intestinal inflammation. Using heterozygous mice with an inactivating mutation on this gene, the study demonstrates ameliorated inflammation, associated with less infiltration of macrophages. Moreover, the depletion of macrophages prevented many of the inflammatory effects of DSS and made both WT and mutant mice equivalent in terms of inflammation severity. Correlative data showing increased CD131+ cells in tissues of patients with ulcerative colitis is also demonstrating, evidence for plausibility for these pathways in human disease.
Strengths:
The phenotype of mutant mice seems quite robust and the pathways proposed, GM-CSF signaling in macrophages with CCL4 as a downstream pathway, are all plausible and concordant with existing models. Many of the experiments included meaningful endpoints and were overall well performed.
Weaknesses:
(1) Experimental rigor was lacking in this manuscript, which provided limited or no details on the number of independent iterations that each experiment was done, the number of animals per group, the number of technical or biological replicates in each graph, etc.
(2) Details of animal model validation showing that this particular mutant allele results in a lack of CD131 protein expression were not shown. Moreover, since the paper uses heterozygous mice, it is critical to show that at the protein level, there is indeed reduced expression of CD131 in het mice compared to controls (many heterozygous states do not lead to appreciable protein depletion).
(3) Another major weakness is that the paper asserts a causal relationship between CD131 signaling and CCL4 production: the data shown indicates that the phenotypes of CCL4 deficiency (through Ab blockade) and CD131 partial deficiency (in het mice) are similar. However, this does not establish that CD131 signaling acts through CCL4.
(4) Lastly, while the paper claims that CD131 acts through macrophage recruitment, the evidence is circumstantial and not direct. DSS-induced acute colitis is largely mediated by macrophages, so any manipulation associated with less severe inflammation is accompanied by lesser macrophage infiltration in this model: this does not directly establish that CD131 acts directly on macrophages, which would require cell-specific knockout or complex cell reconstitution experiments.
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In their manuscript entitled 'The domesticated transposon protein L1TD1 associates with its ancestor L1 ORF1p to promote LINE-1 retrotransposition', Kavaklıoğlu and colleagues delve into the role of L1TD1, an RNA binding protein (RBP) derived from a LINE1 transposon. L1TD1 proves crucial for maintaining pluripotency in embryonic stem cells and is linked to cancer progression in germ cell tumors, yet its precise molecular function remains elusive. Here, the authors uncover an intriguing interaction between L1TD1 and its ancestral LINE-1 retrotransposon.
The authors delete the DNA methyltransferase DNMT1 in a haploid human cell line (HAP1), inducing widespread DNA hypo-methylation. This hypomethylation prompts abnormal expression of L1TD1. To scrutinize L1TD1's function in a DNMT1 knock-out setting, the authors create DNMT1/L1TD1 double knock-out cell lines (DKO). Curiously, while the loss of global DNA methylation doesn't impede proliferation, additional depletion of L1TD1 leads to DNA damage and apoptosis.
To unravel the molecular mechanism underpinning L1TD1's protective role in the absence of DNA methylation, the authors dissect L1TD1 complexes in terms of protein and RNA composition. They unveil an association with the LINE-1 transposon protein L1-ORF1 and LINE-1 transcripts, among others.
Surprisingly, the authors note fewer LINE-1 retro-transposition events in DKO cells compared to DNMT1 KO alone.
Strengths:
The authors present compelling data suggesting the interplay of a transposon-derived human RNA binding protein with its ancestral transposable element. Their findings spur interesting questions for cancer types, where LINE1 and L1TD1 are aberrantly expressed.
Weaknesses:
Suggestions for refinement:
The initial experiment, inducing global hypo-methylation by eliminating DNMT1 in HAP1 cells, is intriguing and warrants more detailed description. How many genes experience mis-regulation or aberrant expression? What phenotypic changes occur in these cells? Why did the authors focus on L1TD1? Providing some of this data would be helpful to understand the rationale behind the thorough analysis of L1TD1.
The finding that L1TD1/DNMT1 DKO cells exhibit increased apoptosis and DNA damage but decreased L1 retro-transposition is unexpected. Considering the DNA damage associated with retro-transposition and the DNA damage and apoptosis observed in L1TD1/DNMT1 DKO cells, one would anticipate the opposite outcome. Could it be that the observation of fewer transposition-positive colonies stems from the demise of the most transposition-positive colonies? Further exploration of this phenomenon would be intriguing.
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Reviewer #2 (Public review):
In this study, Kavaklıoğlu et al. investigated and presented evidence for a role for domesticated transposon protein L1TD1 in enabling its ancestral relative, L1 ORF1p, to retrotranspose in HAP1 human tumor cells. The authors provided insight into the molecular function of L1TD1 and shed some clarifying light on previous studies that showed somewhat contradictory outcomes surrounding L1TD1 expression. Here, L1TD1 expression was correlated with L1 activation in a hypomethylation dependent manner, due to DNMT1 deletion in HAP1 cell line. The authors then identified L1TD1 associated RNAs using RIP-Seq, which display a disconnect between transcript and protein abundance (via Tandem Mass Tag multiplex mass spectrometry analysis). The one exception was for L1TD1 itself, is consistent with a model in which the RNA transcripts associated with L1TD1 are not directly regulated at the translation level. Instead, the authors found L1TD1 protein associated with L1-RNPs and this interaction is associated with increased L1 retrotransposition, at least in the contexts of HAP1 cells. Overall, these results support a model in which L1TD1 is restrained by DNA methylation, but in the absence of this repressive mark, L1TD1 is expression, and collaborates with L1 ORF1p (either directly or through interaction with L1 RNA, which remains unclear based on current results), leads to enhances L1 retrotransposition. These results establish feasibility of this relationship existing in vivo in either development or disease, or both.
Comments on revised version:
In general, the authors did an acceptable job addressing the major concerns throughout the manuscript. This revision is much clearer and has improved in terms of logical progression.
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Reviewer #1 (Public review):
The authors used a novel multi-dimensional experience sampling (mDES) approach to identify data-driven patterns of experience samples that they use to interrogate fMRI data collected during naturalistic movie-watching data. They identify a set of multi-sensory features of a set of movies that delineate low-dimensional gradients of BOLD fMRI signal patterns that have previously been linked to fundamental axes of cortical organization.
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Reviewer #2 (Public review):
The present study explores how thoughts map onto brain activity, a notoriously challenging question because of the dynamic, subjective, and abstract nature of thoughts. To tackle this question, the authors collected continuous thought ratings from participants watching a movie, and additionally made use of an open-source fMRI dataset recorded during movie watching as well as five established gradients of brain variation as identified in resting state data. Using a voxel-space approach, the results show that episodic knowledge, verbal detail, and sensory engagement of thoughts commonly modulate visual and auditory cortex, while intrusive distraction modulates the frontoparietal network. Additionally, sensory engagement mapped onto a gradient from primary to association cortex, while episodic knowledge mapped onto a gradient from the dorsal attention network to visual cortex. Building on the association between behavioral performance and neural activation, the authors conclude that sensory coupling to external input and frontoparietal executive control are key to comprehension in naturalistic settings.
The manuscript stands out for its methodological advancements in quantifying thoughts over time and its aim to study the implementation of thoughts in the brain during naturalistic movie watching.
Strengths:
(1) The study raises a question that has been difficult to study in naturalistic settings so far but is key to understanding human cognition, namely how thoughts map onto brain activation.
(2) The thought ratings introduce a novel method for continuously tracking thoughts, promising utility beyond this study.
(3) The authors used diverse data types, metrics, and analyses to substantiate the effects of thinking from multiple perspectives.
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Reviewer #3 (Public review):
This study attempted to investigate the relations between processing in the human brain during movie watching and corresponding thought processes. This is a highly interesting question, as movie watching presents a semi-constrained task, combining naturally occurring thoughts and common processing of sensory inputs across participants. This task is inherently difficult because in order to know what participants are thinking at any given moment, one has to interrupt the same thought process which is the object of study.
This study attempts to deal with this issue by aggregating staggered experience sampling data across participants in one behavioral study and using the population level thought patterns to model brain activity in different participants in an open access fMRI dataset.
The behavioral data consist of 120 participants who watched 3 11-minute movie clips. Participants responded to the mDES questionnaire: 16 visual scales characterizing ongoing thought 5 times, two minutes apart, in each clip. The 16 items are first reduced to 4 factors using PCA, and their levels are compared across the different movies. The factors are "episodic knowledge", "intrusive distraction", "verbal detail", and "sensory engagement". The factors differ between the clips, and distraction is negatively correlated with movie comprehension and sensory engagement is positively correlated with comprehension.
The components are aggregated across participants (transforming single subject mDES answers into PCA space and concatenating responses of different participants) and are used as regressors in a GLM analysis. This analysis identifies brain regions corresponding to the components. The resulting brain maps reveal activations that are consistent with the proposed mental processes (e.g. negative loading for intrusion in frontoparietal network, positive loadings for visual and auditory cortices for sensory engagement).
Then, the coordinates for brain regions which were significant for more than one component are entered into a paper search in neurosynth. It is not clear what this analysis demonstrates beyond the fact that sensory engagement contained both visual and auditory components.
The next analysis projected group-averaged brain activation onto gradients (based on previous work) and used gradient timecourses to predict the behavioral report timecourses. This revealed that high activations in gradient 1 (sensory→association) predicted high sensory engagement, and that "episodic knowledge" thought patterns were predicted by increased visual cortex activations. Then, permutation tests were performed to see whether these thought pattern related activations corresponded to well defined regions on a given cluster.
In conclusion, this study tackles a highly interesting subject and does it creatively and expertly.
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Reviewer #1 (Public review):
Summary:
This paper represents a huge amount of work on a condition whose patients' health and well-being have not always been prioritized, and only relatively recently has the immune dysregulation seen in patients with Down Syndrome (DS) been garnering major research interest.
This paper provides an unparalleled examination of immune disorder in patients with DS. The authors also report the results from a clinical trial with the JAK inhibitor tofacitinib in DS patients.
Strengths:
This manuscript report an herculean effort and provides an unparalleled examination of immune disorder in a large number of patients with DS.
Weaknesses:
Not a major weakness but, apart from finding an elevation of CD4 T central memory cells and more differentiated plasmablast, several of the alteration reported in this manuscript had already been suggested by a few case reports and very small series. On the other hand, the number of patients (and controls) utilized for this study is remarkable and allows to draw much firmer conclusions.
Comments on revised version:
I don't have any further comments.
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Reviewer #2 (Public review):
In this manuscript, Rachubinski and colleagues provide a comprehensive clinical, immunological, and autoantibody assessment of autoimmune/inflammatory manifestations of patients with Down syndrome (DS) in a large number of patients with this disorder. These analyses confirm prior results of excess interferon and cytokine signals in DS patients and extend these observations to highlight early-onset immunological aberrancies, far before symptoms occur, as well as characterizing novel autoantibody reactivities in this patient population. Then, the authors report the interim analysis of an open label, Phase II, clinical trial of the JAK1/3 inhibitor, tofacitinib, that aims to define the safety, clinical efficacy, and immunological outcomes of DS patients who suffer from inflammatory conditions of the skin. The clinical trial analysis indicates that the treatment is tolerated without serious adverse effects and that the majority of patients have experienced clinical improvement or remission in their corresponding clinical cutaneous manifestations as well as improvement or normalization of aberrant immunological signals such as cytokines.
The major strength of the study is the recruitment and uniform, systematic evaluation of an impressive number of DS patients. Moreover, the promising early results from the tofacitinib clinical trial pave the way for analysis of a larger number of patients within the Phase II trial and otherwise, which may lead to improved clinical outcomes of affected patients. An inherent weakness of such studies is the descriptive nature of several parameters and the relatively small size of tofacitinib-treated DS patients. However, the descriptive nature of some of the correlative research analyses are of scientific interest and are useful to generate hypotheses for future additional (including mechanistic) work and treatment of 10 DS patients in a formal clinical trial at interim analysis is not a trivial task for a disease like this. The manuscript achieves the aims of the authors and the results support their conclusions. The authors appropriately acknowledge areas that require more research and areas that are not well understood. The results are represented in a useful manner and statistical methods and analyses appear sound.
Comments on revised version:
The authors have satisfactorily addressed my comments in the revised manuscript.
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Reviewer #3 (Public review):
Summary:
Individuals with Down syndrome (DS) have high rates of autoimmunity and can have exaggerated immune responses to infection that can unfortunately cause significant medical complications. Prior studies from these authors and others have convincingly demonstrated that individuals with DS have immune dysregulation including increased Type I IFN activity, elevated production of inflammatory cytokines (hypercytokinemia), increased autoantibodies, and populations of dysregulated adaptive immune cells that pre-dispose to autoimmunity. Prior studies have demonstrated that using JAK inhibitors to treat patient samples in vitro, in small case series of patients, and in mouse models of DS leads to improvement of immune phenotype and/or clinical disease. This manuscript provides two major advances in our understanding of the immune dysregulation and therapy for patients. First, they perform deep immune phenotyping on several hundred individuals with DS and demonstrate that immune dysregulation is present from infancy. Second, they report promising interim analysis of a Phase II clinical trial of a JAK inhibitor in 10 people with DS and moderate to severe skin autoimmunity.
Strengths and weaknesses:
The relatively large cohort and careful clinical annotation here provides new insights into the immune phenotype of patients with DS. For example, it is interesting that regardless of autoimmune disease or autoantibody status, individuals with DS have elevated cytokines and CRP. Analysis of the cohorts by age demonstrated that some cytokines are significant elevated in people with DS starting in infancy (e.g., IL-9 and IL-17C). Nearly all adults with DS in this study had autoantibodies (98%) and most had six or more autoantibodies (63%), which differed significantly from euploid study participants. This implies that all patients with DS might benefit from early intervention with therapy to reduce inflammation. However, it is also worth considering that an alternative interpretation that since hypercytokinemia does not vary based on disease state in individuals with DS, that this may not be a key factor driving autoimmunity (although it may be relevant for other clinical symptoms such as neuroinflammation).
Small case series have suggested the benefit of JAK inhibitors to treat autoimmunity in DS. This is the first report of a prospective clinical trial to test a JAK inhibitor in this setting. The clinical trial entry criteria included moderate to severe autoimmune skin disease in patients aged 12-50 years with DS, and treatment was with the JAK1/3 inhibitor tofacitinib. This clinical trial is a critically important step for the field. The early results support that treatment is well tolerated with improvement of interferon scores in patients and reduction of autoantibodies. Most patients experienced clinical improvement, with alopecia areata having the greatest response. Treatment may not affect all skin disease equally, for example of the 5 patients with hidradenitis suppurativa, only 1 showed clinical improvement based on skin score. While very promising, the clinical trial results reported here are preliminary and based on interim analysis of 10 patients at 16 weeks. Individuals with DS have a lifelong risk of immune dysregulation and thus it is unclear how long therapy, if of benefit, would need to be continued. Results of longer-term therapy will be informative when considering the risks/benefits of this therapy.
Comments on revised version:
The authors have made appropriate revisions to this important contribution to the literature.
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Reviewer #1 (Public review):
This study by Popli et al. evaluated the function of Atg14, an autophagy protein, in reproductive function using a conditional knockout mouse model. The authors showed that female mice lacking Atg14 were infertile partly due to defective embryo transport function of the oviduct and faulty uterine receptivity and decidualization using PgrCre/+;Atg14f/f mice. The findings from this work are exciting and novel. The authors demonstrated that a loss of Atg14 led to an excessive pyroptosis in the oviductal epithelial cells that compromises cellular integrity and structure, impeding the transport function of the oviduct. In addition, the authors use both genetic and pharmacological approaches to test the hypothesis. Therefore, the findings from this study are high-impact and likely reproducible. However, there are multiple major concerns that need to be addressed to improve the quality of the work.
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Reviewer #2 (Public review):
In this manuscript, Popli et al investigated the roles of autophagy related gene, Atg14, in the female reproductive tract (FRT) using conditional knockout mouse models. By ablation of Atg14 in both oviduct and uterus with PR-Cre (Atg14 cKO), authors discovered that such females are completely infertile. They went on to show that Atg14 cKO females have impaired embryo implantation as well as embryo transport from oviduct to uterus. Further analysis showed that Atg14 cKO leads to increased pyroptosis in oviduct, which disrupts oviduct epithelial integrity and leads to obstructive oviduct lumen and impaired embryo transport. The authors concluded that Atg14 is critical for maintaining the oviduct homeostasis and keeping the inflammation under check to enable proper embryo transport.
The authors have barely addressed most of my concerns in this revised version with a few minor issues remaining to be addressed:<br /> (1) The authors tried to address my first concern regarding the statement that "autophagy is critical for maintaining the oviduct homeostasis". The revised statement in Line 53-54 "we report that Atg14-dependent autophagy plays a crucial role in maintaining..." is still not correct. It should be corrected as " we report that autophagy-related protein Atg14 plays a crucial role in maintaining...".<br /> (2) Line 349-351 described 80-90% of blastocysts retrieved from oviducts of cKO mice, which is in consistent with Figure 3B (showing more than 98%).<br /> (3) Line 447, "Fig. 5E" should be Fig. 6A. In addition, grammar error in the next sentence.<br /> (4) In Figure 6D, why the composition of blastocysts in chemical treated group do not add up to 100%.
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Reviewer #3 (Public review):
Summary:
The manuscript by Pooja Popli and co-authors tested the importance of Atg14 in the female reproductive tract by conditionally deleting Atg14 use PrCre and also Foxj1cre. The authors showed that loss of Atg14 leads to infertility due to the retention of embryos within the oviduct. The authors further concluded that the retention of embryos within the oviduct is due to pyroptosis in oviduct cells leading to defective cellular integrity. The revised manuscript has included new experimental data (Figs. S2B, 5B, 5C, and S3) that satisfied the concerns of this reviewer. The manuscript should provide important advancement to the field.
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Reviewer #1 (Public review):
Summary:
The anatomical connectivity of the claustrum and the role of its output projections has, thus far, not been studied in detail. The aim of this study was to map the outputs of the endopiriform (EN) region of the claustrum complex, and understand their functional role. Here the authors have combined sophisticated intersectional viral tracing techniques, and ex vivo electrophysiology to map the neural circuitry of EN outputs to vCA1, and shown that optogenetic inhibition of the EN→vCA1 projection impairs both social and object recognition memory. Interestingly the authors find that the EN neurons target inhibitory interneurons providing a mechanism for feedforward inhibition of vCA1.
Strengths:
The strength of this study was the application of a multilevel analysis approach combining a number of state-of-the-art techniques to dissect the contribution of the EN→vCA1 to memory function.
In addition the authors conducted behavioural analysis of locomotor activity, anxiety and fear memory, and complemented the analysis of discrimination with more detailed description of the patterns of exploratory behaviour.
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Reviewer #2 (Public review):
Summary:
Yamawaki et al., conducted a series of neuroanatomical tracing and whole cell recording experiments to elucidate and characterise a relatively unknown pathway between the endopiriform (EN) and CA1 of the ventral hippocampus (vCA1) and to assess its functional role in social and object recognition using fibre photometry and dual vector chemogenetics. The main findings were that the EN sends robust projections to the vCA1 that collateralise to the prefrontal cortex, lateral entorhinal cortex and piriform cortex, and these EN projection neurons terminate in the stratum lacunosum-moleculare (SLM) layer of distal vCA1, synapsing onto GABAergic neurons that span across the Pyramidal-Stratum Radiatum (SR) and SR-SML borders. It was also demonstrated that EN input disynaptically inhibits vCA1 pyramidal neurons. vCA1 projecting EN neurons receive afferent input from piriform cortex, and from within EN. Finally, fibre photometry experiments revealed that vCA1 projecting EN neurons are most active when mice explore novel objects or conspecifics, and pathway-specific chemogenetic inhibition led to an impairment in the ability to discriminate between novel vs. familiar objects and conspecifics.
Revision 1:<br /> The authors have addressed most of my concerns, but a few weaknesses remain :
(1) I expected to see the addition of raw interaction times with objects and conspecifics for each phase of social testing (pre-test, sociability test, social discrimination), as per my comment on including raw data. However, the authors only provided total distance traveled and velocity, and total interaction time in Figure S9, which is less informative.
(2) The authors observed increased activity in vCA1-projecting EN neurons tracking with the preferred object during the pre-test (object-object exploration) phase of the social tests, and the summary schematic (Figure 9A) depicts animals as showing a preference for one object over the other (although they are identical) in both the social and object recognition tests. However, in the chemogenetic experiment, the data (Fig S9B) indicate that animals did not show this preference for one object over another, making the expected baseline for this task unclear. This also raises an important question of whether the lack of effect from chemogenetic inhibition of vCA1-projecting EN neurons could be attributed to the absence of this baseline preference.<br /> Additionally, the finding that vCA1-projecting EN activity is associated with the preferred object exploration appears to counter the authors' argument that novelty engages this circuit (since both objects are novel in this instance). This discrepancy warrants further discussion.
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Reviewer #2 (Public review):
Summary:
This study aimed to test experimentally a theoretical framework that aims to explain the perception of tinnitus, i.e., the perception of a phantom sound in the absence of external stimuli, through differences in auditory predictive coding patterns. To this aim, the researchers compared the neural activity preceding and following the perception of a sound using MEG in two different studies. The sounds could be highly predictable or random, depending on the experimental condition. They revealed that individuals with tinnitus and controls had different anticipatory predictions. This finding is a major step in characterizing the top-down mechanisms underlying sound perception in individuals with tinnitus.
Strengths:
This article uses an elegant, well-constructed paradigm to assess the neural dynamics underlying auditory prediction. The findings presented in the first experiment were partially replicated in the second experiment, which included 80 participants. This large number of participants for an MEG study ensures very good statistical power and a strong level of evidence. The authors used advanced analysis techniques - Multivariate Pattern Analysis (MVPA) and classifier weights projection - to determine the neural patterns underlying the anticipation and perception of a sound for individuals with or without tinnitus. The authors evidenced different auditory prediction patterns associated with tinnitus. Overall, the conclusions of this paper are well supported, and the limitations of the study are clearly addressed and discussed.
Weaknesses:
Even though the authors took care of matching the participants in age and sex, the control could be more precise. Tinnitus is associated with various comorbidities, such as hearing loss, anxiety, depression, or sleep disorders. The authors assessed individuals' hearing thresholds with a pure tone audiogram, but they did not take into account the high frequencies (6 kHz to 16 kHz) in the patient/control matching. Moreover, other hearing dysfunctions, such as speech-in-noise deficits or hyperacusis, could have been taken into account to reinforce their claim that the observed predictive pattern was not linked to hearing deficits. Mental health and sleep disorders could also have been considered more precisely, as they were accounted for only indirectly with the score of the 10-item mini-TQ questionnaire evaluating tinnitus distress. Lastly, testing the links between the individuals' scores in auditory prediction and tinnitus characteristics, such as pitch, loudness, duration, and occurrence (how often it is perceived during the day), would have been highly informative.
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Thank you for your responses. There are a few remaining points that, if addressed, could further enhance the manuscript:
- While the manuscript acknowledges the limitation of not matching groups on hearing thresholds in Study 1, a deeper analysis of participants' hearing abilities and their impact on MEG results, similar to that conducted in Study 2, would be valuable. Specifically, including a linear model that considers all frequencies, group membership, and their interactions could highlight differences across groups. Additionally, examining the effect of high-frequency hearing loss on prediction scores, as performed in Study 2, would strengthen the analysis, particularly given the trend noted (line 719). Such an addition could make a significant contribution to the literature by exploring how hearing abilities may influence prediction patterns.
- The connection with the hippocampal regions (line 864) remains somewhat unclear. While the inclusion of the Paquette reference appropriately links temporal region activity with tinnitus, it does not fully support the statement: "An increased focus on hippocampal regions, e.g., in fMRI, patient, or animal studies, could be a worthwhile complement to our MEG work, given the outstanding relevance of medial temporal areas in the formation of associations in statistical learning paradigms"
- Authors should add a comparison of participants mini-TQ scores on both studies<br /> - Authors should add significant level on Fig 6.B as in Fig 3.C, and a n.s on Fig 6.D
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Reviewer #1 (Public review):
Summary:
Kimura et al performed a saturation mutagenesis study of CDKN2A to assess functionality of all possible missense variants and compare them to previously identified pathogenic variants. They also compared their assay result with those from in silico predictors.
Strengths:
CDKN2A is an important gene that modulate cell cycle and apoptosis, therefore it is critical to accurately assess functionality of missense variants. Overall, the paper reads well and touches upon major discoveries in a logical manner.
Weaknesses:
The paper lacks proper details for experiments and basic data, leaving the results less convincing. Analyses are superficial and does not provide variant-level resolution. Many of which were addressed during the revision process.
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The manuscript was improved during the revision process.
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Reviewer #2 (Public review):
Summary:
This study describes a deep mutational scan across CDKN2A using suppression of cell proliferation in pancreatic adenocarcinoma cells as a readout for CDKN2A function. The results are also compared to in silico variant predictors currently utilized by the current diagnostic frameworks to gauge these predictors' performance. The authors also functionally classify CDKN2A somatic mutations in cancers across different tissues
Review:
The goal of this paper was to perform functional classification of missense mutations in CDKN2A in order to generate a resource to aid in clinical interpretation of CDKN2A genetic variants identified in clinical sequencing. In our initial review, we concluded that this paper was difficult to review because there was a lack of primary data and experimental detail. The authors have significantly improved the clarity, methodological detail and data exposition in this revision, facilitating a fuller scientific review. Based on the data provided we do not think the functional characterization of CDKN2A variants is robust or complete enough to meet the stated goal of aiding clinical variant interpretation. We think the underlying assay could be used for this purpose but different experimental design choices and more replication would be required for these data to be useful. Alternatively, the authors could also focus on novel CDKN2A variants as there seems to be potential gain of function mutations that are simply lumped into "neutral" that may have important biological implications.
Major concerns:
Low experimental concordance. The p-value scatter plot (Figure 2 Figure Supplement 3A) across 560 variants shows low collinearity indicating poor replicability. These data should be shown in log2fold changes, but even after model fitting with the gamma GLM still show low concordance which casts strong doubt on the function scores.<br /> The more detailed methods provided indicate that the growth suppression experiment is done in 156 pools with each pool consisting of the 20 variants corresponding to one of the 156 aa positions in CKDN2A. There are several serious problems with this design.
Batch effects in each of the pools preventing comparison across different residues. We think this is a serious design flaw and not standard for how these deep mutational scans are done. The standard would be to combine all 156 pools in a single experiment. Given the sequencing strategy of dividing up CDKN2A into 3 segments, the 156 pools could easily have been collapsed into 3 (1 to 53, 54 to 110, 111 to 156). This would significantly minimize variation in handling between variants at each residue and would be more manageable for performance of further replicates of the screen for reproducibility purposes. The huge variation in confluency time 16-40 days for each pool suggest that this batch effect is a strong source of variation in the experiment
Lack of experimental/biological replication: The functional assay was only performed once on all 156 CDKN2A residues and was repeated for only 28 out of 156 residues, with only ~80% concordance in functional classification between the first and second screens. This is not sufficiently robust for variant interpretation. Why was the experiment not performed more than once for most aa sites?
For the screen, the methods section states that PANC-1 cells were infected at MOI=1 while the standard is an MOI of 0.3-0.5 to minimize multiple variants integrating into a single cell. At an MOI =1 under a Poisson process which captures viral integration, ~25% of cells would have more than 1 lentiviral integrant. So in 25% of the cells the effect of a variant would be confounded by one or more other variants adding noise to the assay.
While the authors provide more explanation of the gamma GLM, we strongly advise that the heatmap and replicate correlations be shown with the log2 fold changes rather than the fit output of the p-values.
In this study, the authors only classify variants into the categories "neutral", "indeterminate", or "deleterious" but they do not address CDKN2A gain-of-function variants that may lead to decreased proliferation. For example, there is no discussion on variants at residue 104, whose proliferation values mostly consist of higher magnitude negative log2fold change values. These variants are defined as neutral but from the one replicate of the experiment performed, they appear to be potential gain-of-function variants.
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Automatically identifying single cell types in heterogeneous mixed cell populations holds great promise to characterize mixed cell populations and to discover new rules of spatial organization and cell-cell communication. Although the current manuscript focuses on the application of quality control of iPSC cultures, the same approach can be extended to a wealth of other applications including in depth study of the spatial context. The simple and high-content assay democratizes use and enables adoption by other labs.
The authors also propose a new nucleocentric phenotyping pipeline, where a convolutional neural network is trained on the nucleus and some margins around it. This nucleocentric approach improves classification performance at high densities because nuclear segmentation is less prone to errors in dense cultures.
The manuscript is supported by comprehensive experimental and computational validations that raises the bar beyond the current state of the art in the field of high-content phenotyping and makes this manuscript especially compelling. These include (i) Explicitly assessing replication biases (batch effects); (ii) Direct comparison of feature-based (a la cell profiling) versus deep-learning-based classification (which is not trivial/obvious for the application of cell profiling); (iii) Systematic assessment of the contribution of each fluorescent channel; (iv) Evaluation of cell-density dependency; (v) explicit examination of mistakes in classification; (vi) Evaluating the performance of different spatial contexts around the cell/nucleus; (vii) generalization of models trained on cultures containing a single cell type (mono-cultures) to mixed co-cultures; (viii) application to multiple classification tasks.
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Reviewer #1 (Public review):
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In this manuscript, the model's capacity to capture epistatic interactions through multi-point mutations and its success in finding the global optimum within the protein fitness landscape highlights the strength of deep learning methods over traditional approaches.
Strengths:
It is impressive that the authors used AI combined with limited experimental validation to achieve such significant enhancements in protein performance. Besides, the successful application of the designed antibody in industrial settings demonstrates the practical and economic relevance of the study. Overall, this work has broad implications for future AI-guided protein engineering efforts.
Weaknesses:
However, the authors should conduct a more thorough computational analysis to complement their manuscript. While the identification of improved multi-point mutants is commendable, the manuscript lacks a detailed investigation into the mechanisms by which these mutations enhance protein properties. The authors briefly mention that some physicochemical characteristics of the mutants are unusual, but they do not delve into why these mutations result in improved performance. Could computational techniques, such as molecular dynamics simulations, be employed to explore the effects of these mutations? Additionally, the authors claim that their method is efficient. However, the selected VHH is relatively short (<150 AA), resulting in lower computational costs. It remains unclear whether the computational cost of this approach would still be acceptable when designing larger proteins (>1000 AA). Besides, the design process involves a large number of prediction tasks, including the properties of both single-site saturation and multi-point mutants. The computational load is closely tied to the protein length and the number of mutation sites. Could the authors analyze the model's capability boundaries in this regard and discuss how scalable their approach is when dealing with larger proteins or more complex mutation tasks?
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Reviewer #2 (Public review):
In this paper, the authors aim to explore whether an AI model trained on natural protein data can aid in designing proteins that are resistant to extreme environments. While this is an interesting attempt, the study's computational contributions are weak, and the design of the computational experiments appears arbitrary.
(1) The writing throughout the paper is poor. This leaves the reader confused.
(2) The main technical issue the authors address is whether AI can identify protein mutations that adapt to extreme environments based solely on natural protein data. However, the introduction could be more concise and focused on the key points to better clarify the significance of this question.
(3) The authors did not develop a new model but instead used their previously developed Pro-PRIME model. This significantly weakens the novelty and contribution of this work.
(4) The computational experiments are not well-justified. For instance, the authors used a zero-shot setting for single-point mutation experiments but opted for fine-tuning in multiple-point mutation experiments. There is no clear explanation for this discrepancy. How does the model perform in zero-shot settings for multiple-point mutations? How would fine-tuning affect single-point mutation results? The choice of these strategies seems arbitrary and lacks sufficient discussion.
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Reviewer #1 (Public review):
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In this manuscript, Arimura et al describe MagIC-Cryo-EM, an innovative method for immune-selective concentrating of native molecules and macromolecular complexes for Cryo-EM imaging and single-particle analysis. Typically, Cryo-EM imaging requires much larger concentrations of biomolecules than that are feasible to achieve by conventional biochemical fractionation. Overall, this manuscript is meticulously and clearly written and may become a great asset to other electron microscopists and chromatin researchers.
Strengths:
Previously, Arimura et al. (Mol. Cell 2021) isolated from Xenopus extract and resolved by Cryo-EM a sub-class of native nucleosomes conjugated containing histone H1.8 at the on-dyad position, similar to that previously observed by other researchers with reconstituted nucleosomes. Here they sought to analyze immuno-selected nucleosomes aiming to observe specific modes of H1.8 positioning (e.g. on-dyad and off-dyad) and potentially reveal structural motifs responsible for the decreased affinity of H1.8 for the interphase chromatin compared to metaphase chromosomes. The main strength of this work is a clever and novel methodological design, in particular the engineered protein spacers to separate captured nucleosomes from streptavidin beads for a clear imaging. The authors provide a detailed step-by-step description of MagIC-Cryo-EM procedure including nucleosome isolation, preparation of GFP nanobody attached magnetic beads, optimization of the spacer length, concentration of the nucleosomes on graphene grids, data collection and analysis, including their new DUSTER method to filter-out low signal particles. This tour de force methodology should facilitate considering of MagIC-Cryo-EM by other electron microscopists especially for analysis of native nucleosome complexes.<br /> In pursue of biologically important new structures, the immune-selected H1.8-containing nucleosomes were solved at about 4A resolution; their structure appears to be very similar to the previously determined structure of H1.8-reconstituted nucleosomes. There were no apparent differences between the metaphase and interphase complexes suggesting that the on-dyad and off-dyad positioning does not explain the differences in H1.8 - nucleosome binding. However, they were able to identify and solve complexes of H1.8-GFP with histone chaperone NPM2 in a closed and open conformation providing mechanistic insights for H1-NPM2 binding and the reduced affinity of H1.8 to interphase chromatin as compared to metaphase chromosomes.
Weaknesses:
Still, I feel that there are certain limitations and potential artifacts resulting from formaldehyde fixation, use of bacterial-expressed recombinant H1.8-GFP, and potential effects of magnetic beads and/or spacer on protein structure, that should be more explicitly discussed. Also, the GFP-pulled down H1.8 nucleosomes should be better characterized biochemically to determine the actual linker DNA lengths (which are known to have a strong effect of linker histone affinity) and presence or absence of other factors such as HMG proteins that may compete with linker histones and cause the multiplicity of nucleosome structural classes (such as shown on Fig. 3F) for which the association with H1.8 is uncertain.
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Summary:
The authors present a straightforward and convincing demonstration of a reagent and workflow that they collectively term "MagIC-cryo-EM", in which magnetic nanobeads combined with affinity linkers are used to specifically immobilize and locally concentrate complexes that contain a protein-of-interest. As a proof of concept, they localize, image, and reconstruct H1.8-bound nucleosomes reconstructed from frog egg extracts. The authors additionally devised an image-processing workflow termed "DuSTER", which increases the true positive detections of the partially ordered NPM2 complex. The analysis of the NPM2 complex {plus minus} H1.8 was challenging because only ~60 kDa of protein mass was ordered. Overall, single-particle cryo-EM practitioners should find this study useful.
Strengths:
The rationale is very logical and the data are convincing.
Weaknesses: I have seen an earlier version of this study at a conference. The conference presentation was much easier to follow than the current manuscript. It is as if this manuscript had undergone review at another journal and includes additional experiments to satisfy previous reviewers. Specifically, the NPM2 results don't seem to add much to the main story (MagIC-cryo-EM), and read more like an addendum. The authors could probably publish the NPM2 results separately, which would make the core MagIC results (sans DusTER) easier to read.
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Reviewer #3 (Public review):
Summary:
In this paper, Arimura et al report a new method, termed MagIC-Cryo-EM, which refers to the method of using magnetic beads to capture specific proteins out of a lysate via, followed immunoprecipitation and deposition on EM grids. The so-enriched proteins can be analzyed structurally. Importantly, the nanoparticles are further functionalized with protein-based spacers, to avoid a distorted halo around the particles. This is a very elegant approach and allows the resolution of the stucture of small amounts of native proteins at atomistic resolution.<br /> Here, the authors apply this method to study the chromatosome formation from nucleosomes and the oocyte-specific linker histone H1.8. This allows them to resolve H1.8-containing chromatomosomes from oocyte extract in both interphase and metaphase conditions at 4.3 A resolution, which reveal a common structure with H1 placed right at the dyad and contacting both entry-and exit linker DNA.<br /> They then investigate the origin of H1.8 loss during interphase. They identify a non-nucleosomal H1.8-containing complex from interphase preparations. To resolve its structure, the authors develop a protocol (DuSTER) to exclude particles with ambiguous center, revealing particles with five-fold symmetry, that matches the chaperone NPM2. MS and WB confirms that the protein is present in interphase samples but not metaphase. The authors further separate two isoforms, an open and closed form that coexist. Additional densities in the open form suggest that this might be bound H1.8.
Strengths:
Together this is an important addition to the suite of cryoEM methods, with broad applications. The authors demonstrate the method using interesting applications, showing that the methods work and they can get high resolution structures from nucleosomes in complex with H1 from native environments.
Weaknesses:
The structures of the NPM2 chaperone is less well resolved, and some of the interpretation in this part seems only weakly justified.
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Reviewer #1 (Public review):
The manuscript by Sayeed et al. uses a comprehensive series of multi-omics approaches to demonstrate that late-stage human cytomegalovirus (HCMV) infection leads to a marked disruption of TEAD1 activity, a concomitant loss of TEAD1-DNA interactions, and extensive chromatin remodeling. The data are thoroughly presented and provide evidence for the role of TEAD1 in the cellular response to HCMV infection. However, a key question remains unresolved: is the observed disruption of TEAD1 activity a direct consequence of HCMV infection, or could it be secondary to the broader innate antiviral response? In this respect, the study would benefit from experiments that assess the effect of TEAD1 overexpression or knockdown/deletion on HCMV replication dynamics. Such functional assays could help delineate whether TEAD1 perturbation directly influences viral replication or is part of a downstream/indirect cellular response, providing deeper mechanistic insights.
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Reviewer #2 (Public review):
Summary:
This work uses genomic and biochemical approaches for HCMV infection in human fibroblasts and retinal epithelial cell lines, followed by comparisons and some validations using strategies such as immunoblots. Based on these analyses, they propose several mechanisms that could contribute to the HCMV-induced diseases, including closing of TEAD1-occupying domains and reduced TEAD1 transcript and protein levels, decreased YAP1 and phospho-YAP1 levels, and exclusion of TEAD1 exon 6.
Strengths:
The genomics experiments were done in duplicates and data analyses show good technical reproducibility. Data analyses are performed to show changes at the transcript and chromatin level changes, followed by some Western blot validations.
Weaknesses:
This work, at the current stage, is quite correlative since no functional studies are done to show any causal links. For readers who are outside the field, some clarifications of the system and design need to be stated.
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Reviewer #1 (Public review):
Summary<br /> Roseman et al. use a new inhibitor of the maintenance DNA methyltransferase DNMT1 to probe the role of methylation on binding of the CTCF protein, which is known to be involved chromatin loop formation. As previous reported, and as expected based on our knowledge that CTCF binding is methylation-sensitive, the authors find that loss of methylation leads to additional CTCF binding sites and increased loop formation. By comparing novel loops with the binding of the pre-mRNA splicing factor SON, which localizes to the nuclear speckle compartment, they propose that these reactivated loops localize to near speckles. This behavior is dependent on CTCF whereas degradation of two speckle proteins does not affect CTCF binding or loop formation. The authors propose a model in which DNA methylation controls the association of genome regions with speckles via CTCF-mediated insulation.
Strengths<br /> The strengths of the study are 1) the use of a new, specific DNMT1 inhibitor and 2) the observation that genes whose expression is sensitive to DNMT1 inhibition and dependent on CTCF (cluster 2) show higher association with SON than genes which are sensitive to DNMT1 inhibition but are CTCF insensitive, is in line with the authors' general model.
Weaknesses<br /> There are a number of significant weaknesses that as a whole undermine many of the key conclusions, including the overall mechanistic model of a direct regulatory role of DNA methylation on CTCF-mediated speckle association of chromatin loops.
(1) The authors frequently make quasi-quantitative statements but do not actually provide the quantitative data, which they actually all have in hand. To give a few examples: "reactivated CTCF sites were largely methylated (p. 4/5), "many CTCF binding motifs enriched..." (p.5), "a large subset of reactivated peaks..."(p.5), "increase in strength upon DNMT1 inhibition" (p.5); "a greater total number....." (p.7). These statements are all made based on actual numbers and the authors should mention the numbers in the text to give an impression of the extent of these changes (see below) and to clarify what the qualitative terms like "largely", "many", "large", and "increase" mean. This is an issue throughout the manuscript and not limited to the above examples.<br /> Related to this issue, many of the comparisons which the authors interpret to show differences in behavior seem quite minor. For example, visual inspection suggests that the difference in loop strength shown in figure 1E is something like from 0 to 0.1 for K562 cells and a little less for KCT116 cells. What is a positive control here to give a sense of whether these minor changes are relevant. Another example is on p. 7, where the authors claim that CTCF partners of reactivated peaks tend to engage in a "greater number" of looping partners, but inspection of Figure 2A shows a very minor difference from maybe 7 to 7.5 partners. While a Mann-Whitney test may call this difference significant and give a significant P value, likely due to high sample number, it is questionable that this is a biologically relevant difference.
(2) The data to support the central claim of localization of reactivated loops to speckles is not overly convincing. The overlap with SON Cut&Tag (figure 2F) is partial at best and although it is better with the publicly available TSA-seq data, the latter is less sensitive than Cut&Tag and more difficult to interpret. It would be helpful to validate these data with FISH experiments to directly demonstrate and measure the association of loops with speckles (see below).
(3) It is not clear that the authors have indeed disrupted speckles from cells by degrading SON and SRRM2. Speckles contain a large number of proteins and considering their phase separated nature stronger evidence for their complete removal is needed. Note that the data published in ref 58 suffers from the same caveat.
(4) The authors ascribe a direct regulatory role to DNA methylation in controlling the association of some CTCF-mediated loops to speckles (p. 20). However, an active regulatory role of speckle association has not been demonstrated and the observed data are equally explainable by a more parsimonious model in which DNA methylation regulates gene expression via looping and that the association with speckles is merely an indirect bystander effect of the activated genes because we know that active genes are generally associated with speckles. The proposed mechanism of a regulatory role of DNA methylation in controlling speckle association is not convincingly demonstrated by the data. As a consequence, the title of the paper is also misleading.
(5) As a minor point, the authors imply on p. 15 that ablation of speckles leads to misregulation of genes by altering transcription. This is not shown as the authors only measure RNA abundance, which may be affected by depletion of constitutive splicing factors, but not transcription. The authors would need to show direct effects on transcription.
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Summary:<br /> CTCF is one of the most well-characterized regulators of chromatin architecture in mammals. Given that CTCF is an essential protein, understanding how its binding is regulated is a very active area of research. It has been known for decades that CTCF is sensitive to 5-cystosine DNA methylation (5meC) in certain contexts. Moreover, at genomic imprints and in certain oncogenes, 5meC-mediated CTCF antagonism has very important gene regulatory implications. A number of labs (eg, Schubeler and Stamatoyannopoulos) have assessed the impact of DNA methylation on CTCF binding, but it is important to also interrogate the effect on chromatin organization (ie, looping). Here, Roseman and colleagues used a DNMT1 inhibitor in two established human cancer lines (HCT116 [colon] and K562 [leukemia]), and performed CTCF ChIPseq and HiChIP. They showed that "reactivated" CTCF sites-that is, bound in the absence of 5meC-are enriched in gene bodies, participate in many looping events, and intriguingly, appear associated with nuclear speckles. This last aspect suggests that these reactivated loops might play an important role in increased gene transcription. They showed a number of genes that are upregulated in the DNA hypomethylated state actually require CTCF binding, which is an important result.
Strengths:<br /> Overall, I found the paper to be succinctly written and the data presented clearly. The relationship between CTCF binding in gene bodies and association with nuclear speckles is an interesting result. Another strong point of the paper was combining DNMT1 inhibition with CTCF degradation.
Weaknesses:<br /> The most problematic aspect of this paper in my view is the insufficient evidence for the association of "reactivated" CTCF binding sites with nuclear speckles needs to be more diligently demonstrated (see Major Comment). One unfortunate aspect was that this paper neglected to discuss findings from our recent paper, wherein we also performed CTCF HiChIP in a DNA methylation mutant (Monteagudo-Sanchez et al., 2024 PMID: 39180406). It is true, this is a relatively recent publication, although the BioRxiv version has been available since fall 2023. I do not wish to accuse the authors of actively disregarding our study, but I do insist that they refer to it in a revised version. Moreover, there are a number of differences between the studies such that I find them more complementary rather than overlapping. To wit, the species (mouse vs human), the cell type (pluripotent vs human cancer), the use of a CTCF degron, and the conclusions of the paper (we did not make a link with nuclear speckles). Furthermore, we used a constitutive DNMT knockout which is not viable in most cell types (HCT116 cells being an exception), and in the discussion mentioned the advantage of using degron technology:
"With high-resolution techniques, such as HiChIP or Micro-C (119-121), a degron system can be coupled with an assessment of the cis-regulatory interactome (118). Such techniques could be adapted for DNA methylation degrons (eg, DNMT1) in differentiated cell types in order to gauge the impact of 5meC on the 3D genome."
The authors here used a DNMT1 inhibitor, which for intents and purposes, is akin to a DNMT1 degron, thus I was happy to see a study employ such a technique. A comparison between the findings from the two studies would strengthen the current manuscript, in addition to being more ethically responsible.
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In organisms with open mitosis, nuclear envelope breakdown at mitotic entry and re-assembly of the nuclear envelope at the end of mitosis are important, highly regulated processes. One key regulator of nuclear envelope re-assembly is the BAF (Barrier-to-Autointegration) protein, which contributes to cross-linking of chromosomes to the nuclear envelope. Crucially, BAF has to be in a dephosphorylated form to carry out this function, and PP2A has been shown to be the phosphatase that dephosphorylates BAF. The Ankle2/LEM4 protein has previously been identified as an important regulator of PP2A in the dephosphorylation of BAF but its precise function is not fully understood, and Li and colleagues set out to investigate the function of Ankle2/LEM4 in both Drosophila flies and Drosophila cell lines.
Strengths:
The authors use a combination of biochemical and imaging techniques to understand the biology of Ankle2/LEM4. On the whole, the experiments are well conducted and the results look convincing. A particular strength of this manuscript is that the authors are able to study both cellular phenotypes and organismal effects of their mutants by studying both Drosophila D-mel cells and whole flies.
The work presented in this manuscript significantly enhances our understanding of how Ankle2/LEM4 supports BAF dephosphorylation at the end of mitosis. Particularly interesting is the finding that Ankle2/LEM4 appears to be a bona fide PP2A regulatory protein in Drosophila, as well as the localisation of Ankle2/LEM4 and how this is influenced by the interaction between Ankle2 and the ER protein Vap33. It would be interesting to see, though, whether these insights are conserved in mammalian cells, e.g. does mammalian Vap33 also interact with LEM4? Is LEM4 also a part of the PP2A holoenzyme complex in mammalian cells?
Weaknesses:
This work is certainly impactful but more discussion and comparison of the Drosophila versus mammalian cell system would be helpful. Also, to attract the largest possible readership, the Ankle2 protein should be referred to as Ankle2/LEM4 throughout the paper to make it clear that this is the same molecule.
A schematic model at the end of the final figure would be very useful to summarise the findings.
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Reviewer #2 (Public review):
The authors first identify Ankle2 as a regulatory subunit and direct interactor of PP2A, showing they interact both in vitro and in vivo to promote BAF dephosphorylation. The Ankyrin domain of Ankle2 is important for the interaction with PP2A. They then show Ankle2 also interacts with the ER protein Vap33 through FFAT motifs and they particularly co-localize during mitosis. The recruitment of Ankle2 to Vap33 is essential to ER and nuclear envelop membrane in telophase while earlier in mitosis, it relies on the C terminus but not the FFAT motifs for recruitments to the nuclear membrane and spindle envelop in early mitosis. The molecular determinants and receptors are currently not known. The authors check the function of the PP2A recruitment to Ankle2/Vap33 in the context of embryos and show this recruitment pathway is functionally important. While the Ankle2/Vap33 interaction is dispensable in adult flies -looking at wing development, the PP2A/Ankle2 interaction is essential for correct wing and fly development. Overall, this is a very complete paper that reveals the molecular mechanism of PP2A recruitment to Ankle2 and studies both the cellular and the physiological effect of this interaction in the context of fly development.
Strengths:
The paper is well written and the narrative is well-developed. The figures are of high quality, well-controlled, clearly labelled, and easy to understand. They support the claims made by the authors.
Weaknesses:
The study would benefit from being discussed in the context of what is already known on Ankle2 biology in C.elegans and human cells. It is important to highlight the structures shown in the paper are alphafold models, rather than validated structures.
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Reviewer #3 (Public review):
Summary:
The authors were interested in how Ankle2 regulates nuclear envelope reformation after cell division. Other published manuscripts, including those from the authors, show without a doubt that Ankle2 plays a role in this critical process. However, the mechanism by which Ankle2 functions was unclear. Previous work using worms and humans (Asencio et al., 2012) established that human ANKLE2 could bind endogenous PP2A subunits. The binding was direct and was mediated through a region before and including the first ankyrin repeat in human ANKLE2. In addition to its interaction with PP2A, Asencio et al., 2012 also show that ANKLE2 regulates VRK1 kinase activity. Together PP2A and VRK1 regulate BAF phosphorylation for proper nuclear envelope reformation. Here, the authors provide more evidence for interaction with PP2A by also mapping the domain of interaction to the ankyrin repeat in Drosophila. In addition, the ankyrin repeat is essential for nuclear envelope reformation after division. They show that Ankle2 can bind in a PP2A complex without other known regulatory subunits of PP2A. The authors also identify a novel interaction with ER protein Vap33, but functional relevance for this interaction in nuclear envelope reformation is not provided in the manuscript, which the authors explicitly state. This manuscript does not comment on the activity of Ballchen/VRK1 in relation to Ankle2 loss and BAF phosphorylation or nuclear envelope reformation, even though links were previously shown by multiple studies (Asencio et al., Link et al., Apridita Sebastian et al.,). Nuclear envelope defects were rescued by the reduction of VRK1 in two of these manuscripts. It is possible that BAF phosphorylation phenotypes can be contributed by both PP2A inactivity and VRK1 overactivity due to the loss of Ankle2.
Strengths:
This manuscript is a useful finding linking Ankle2 function during nuclear envelope reformation to the PP2A complex. The authors present solid data showing that Ankle2 can form a complex with PP2A-29B and Mts and generate a phosphoproteomic resource that is fundamentally important to understanding Ankle2 biology.
Weaknesses:
However, the main findings/conclusions about subcellular localization might be incomplete since they are drawn from overexpression experiments. In addition, throughout the text, some conclusions are overstated or are not supported by data.
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Reviewer #1 (Public review):
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In this manuscript, Azlan et al. identified a novel maternal factor called Sakura that is required for proper oogenesis in Drosophila. They showed that Sakura is specifically expressed in the female germline cells. Consistent with its expression pattern, Sakura functioned autonomously in germline cells to ensure proper oogenesis. In Sakura KO flies, germline cells were lost during early oogenesis and often became tumorous before degenerating by apoptosis. In these tumorous germ cells, piRNA production was defective and many transposons were derepressed. Interestingly, Smad signaling, a critical signaling pathway for GSC maintenance, was abolished in sakura KO germline stem cells, resulting in ectopic expression of Bam in whole germline cells in the tumorous germline. A recent study reported that Bam acts together with the deubiquitinase Otu to stabilize Cyc A. In the absence of sakura, Cyc A was upregulated in tumorous germline cells in the germarium. Furthermore, the authors showed that Sakura co-immunoprecipitated Otu in ovarian extracts. A series of in vitro assays suggested that the Otu (1-339 aa) and Sakura (1-49 aa) are sufficient for their direct interaction. Finally, the authors demonstrated that the loss of otu phenocopies the loss of sakura, supporting their idea that Sakura plays a role in germ cell maintenance and differentiation through interaction with Otu during oogenesis.
Strengths:
To my knowledge, this is the first characterization of the role of CG14545 genes. Each experiment seems to be well-designed and adequately controlled.
Weaknesses:
However, the conclusions from each experiment are somewhat separate, and the functional relationships between Sakura's functions are not well established. In other words, although the loss of Sakura in the germline causes pleiotropic effects, the cause-and-effect relationships between the individual defects remain unclear.
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Reviewer #2 (Public review):
In this study, the authors identified CG14545 (and named it Sakura), as a key gene essential for Drosophila oogenesis. Genetic analyses revealed that Sakura is vital for both oogenesis progression and ultimate female fertility, playing a central role in the renewal and differentiation of germ stem cells (GSC).
The absence of Sakura disrupts the Dpp/BMP signaling pathway, resulting in abnormal bam gene expression, which impairs GSC differentiation and leads to GSC loss. Additionally, Sakura is critical for maintaining normal levels of piRNAs. Also, the authors convincingly demonstrate that Sakura physically interacts with Otu, identifying the specific domains necessary for this interaction, suggesting a cooperative role in germline regulation. Importantly, the loss of otu produces similar defects to those observed in Sakura mutants, highlighting their functional collaboration.
The authors provide compelling evidence that Sakura is a critical regulator of germ cell fate, maintenance, and differentiation in Drosophila. This regulatory role is mediated through the modulation of pMad and Bam expression. However, the phenotypes observed in the germarium appear to stem from reduced pMad levels, which subsequently trigger premature and ectopic expression of Bam. This aberrant Bam expression could lead to increased CycA levels and altered transcriptional regulation, impacting piRNA expression. Given Sakura's role in pMad expression, it would be insightful to investigate whether overexpression of Mad or pMad could mitigate these phenotypic defects (UAS-Mad line is available at Bloomington Drosophila Stock Center).
A major concern is the overstated role of Sakura in regulating Orb. The data does not reveal mislocalized Orb; rather, a mislocalized oocyte and cytoskeletal breakdown, which may be secondary consequences of defects in oocyte polarity and structure rather than direct misregulation of Orb. The conclusion that Sakura is necessary for Orb localization is not supported by the data. Orb still localizes to the oocyte until about stage 6. In the later stage, it looks like the cytoskeleton is broken down and the oocyte is not positioned properly, however, there is still Orb localization in the ~8-stage egg chamber in the oocyte. This phenotype points towards a defect in the transport of Orb and possibly all other factors that need to localize to the oocyte due to cytoskeletal breakdown, not Orb regulation directly. While this result is very interesting it needs further evaluation on the underlying mechanism. For example, the decrease in E-cadherin levels leads to a similar phenotype and Bam is known to regulate E-cadherin expression. Is Bam expressed in these later knockdowns?
The manuscript would benefit from a more balanced interpretation of the data concerning Sakura's role in Orb regulation. Furthermore, a more expanded discussion on Sakura's potential role in pMad regulation is needed. For example, since Otu and Bam are involved in translational regulation, do the authors think that Mad is not translated and therefore it is the reason for less pMad? Currently the discussion presents just a summary of the results and not an extension of possible interpretation discussed in context of present literature.
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Reviewer #3 (Public review):
In this very thorough study, the authors characterize the function of a novel Drosophila gene, which they name Sakura. They start with the observation that sakura expression is predicted to be highly enriched in the ovary and they generate an anti-sakura antibody, a line with a GFP-tagged sakura transgene, and a sakura null allele to investigate sakura localization and function directly. They confirm the prediction that it is primarily expressed in the ovary and, specifically, that it is expressed in germ cells, and find that about 2/3 of the mutants lack germ cells completely and the remaining have tumorous ovaries. Further investigation reveals that Sakura is required for piRNA-mediated repression of transposons in germ cells. They also find evidence that sakura is important for germ cell specification during development and germline stem cell maintenance during adulthood. However, despite the role of sakura in maintaining germline stem cells, they find that sakura mutant germ cells also fail to differentiate properly such that mutant germline stem cell clones have an increased number of "GSC-like" cells. They attribute this phenotype to a failure in the repression of Bam by dpp signaling. Lastly, they demonstrate that sakura physically interacts with otu and that sakura and otu mutants have similar germ cell phenotypes. Overall, this study helps to advance the field by providing a characterization of a novel gene that is required for oogenesis. The data are generally high-quality and the new lines and reagents they generated will be useful for the field. However, there are some weaknesses and I would recommend that they address the comments in the Recommendations for the authors section below.
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This study aimed to determine whether bacterial translation inhibitors affect mitochondria through the same mechanisms. Using mitoribosome profiling, the authors found that most antibiotics, except telithromycin, act similarly in both systems. These insights could help in the development of antibiotics with reduced mitochondrial toxicity.<br /> They also identified potential novel mitochondrial translation events, proposing new initiation sites for MT-ND1 and MT-ND5. These insights not only challenge existing annotations but also open new avenues for research on mitochondrial function.
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Ribosome profiling is a state-of-the-art method for monitoring the translatome at very high resolution. Using mitoribosome profiling, the authors convincingly demonstrate that most of the analyzed antibiotics act in the same way on both bacterial and mitochondrial ribosomes, except for telithromycin. Additionally, the authors report possible alternative translation events, raising new questions about the mechanisms behind mitochondrial initiation and start codon recognition in mammals.
Weaknesses:
The main weaknesses of this study are:<br /> - While the authors highlight an interesting difference in the inhibitory mechanism of telithromycin on bacterial and mitochondrial ribosomes, mechanistic explanations or hypotheses are lacking.<br /> - The assignment of alternative start codons in MT-ND1 and MT-ND5 is very interesting but does not seem to fully align with structural data.<br /> - The newly proposed translation events in the ncRNAs are preliminary and should be further substantiated with additional evidence or interpreted with more caution.
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Reviewer #2 (Public review):
In this study, the authors set out to explore how antibiotics known to inhibit bacterial protein synthesis also affect mitoribosomes in HEK cells. They achieved this through mitoribosome profiling, where RNase I and Mnase were used to generate mitoribosome-protected fragments, followed by sequencing to map the regions where translation arrest occurs. This profiling identified the codon-specific impact of antibiotics on mitochondrial translation.
The study finds that most antibiotics tested inhibit mitochondrial translation similarly to their bacterial counterparts, except telithromycin, which exhibited distinct stalling patterns. Specifically, chloramphenicol and linezolid selectively inhibited translation when certain amino acids were in the penultimate position of the nascent peptide, which aligns with their known bacterial mechanism. Telithromycin stalls translation at an R/K-X-R/K motif in bacteria, and the study demonstrated a preference for arresting at an R/K/A-X-K motif in mitochondria. Additionally, alternative translation initiation sites were identified in MT-ND1 and MT-ND5, with non-canonical start codons. Overall, the paper presents a comprehensive analysis of antibiotics in the context of mitochondrial translation toxicity, and the identification of alternative translation initiation sites will provide valuable insights for researchers in the mitochondrial translation field.
From my perspective as a structural biologist working on the human mitoribosome, I appreciate the use of mitoribosome profiling to explore off-target antibiotic effects and the discovery of alternative mitochondrial translation initiation sites. However, the description is somewhat limited by a focus on this single methodology. The authors could strengthen their discussion by incorporating structural approaches, which have contributed significantly to the field. For example, antibiotics such as paromomycin and linezolid have been modeled in the human mitoribosome (PMID: 25838379), while streptomycin has been resolved (10.7554/eLife.77460), and erythromycin was previously discussed (PMID: 24675956). The reason we can now describe off-target effects more meaningfully is due to the availability of fully modified human mitoribosome structures, including mitochondria-specific modifications and their roles in stabilizing the decoding center and binding ligands, mRNA, and tRNAs (10.1038/s41467-024-48163-x).<br /> These and other relevant studies should be acknowledged throughout the paper to provide additional context.
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Reviewer #3 (Public review):
Summary:
Recently, the off-target activity of antibiotics on human mitoribosome has been paid more attention in the mitochondrial field. Hafner et al applied mitoribosome profilling to study the effect of antibiotics on protein translation in mitochondria as there are similarities between bacterial ribosome and mitoribosome. The authors conclude that some antibiotics act on mitochondrial translation initiation by the same mechanism as in bacteria. On the other hand, the authors showed that chloramphenicol, linezolid and telithromycin trap mitochondrial translation in a context-dependent manner. More interesting, during deep analysis of 5' end of ORF, the authors reported the alternative start codon for ND1 and ND5 proteins instead of previously known one. This is a novel finding in the field and it also provides another application of the technique to further study on mitochondrial translation.
Strengths:
This is the first study which applied mitoribosome profiling method to analyze mutiple antibiotics treatment cells.<br /> The mitoribosome profiling method had been optimized carefully and has been suggested to be a novel method to study translation events in mitochondria. The manuscript is constructive and written well.
Weaknesses:
This is a novel and interesting study, however, most of the conclusion comes from mitoribosome profiling analysis, as a result, the manuscript lacks the cellular biochemical data to provide more evidence and support the findings.
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Qin and colleagues analysed data from the Human Connectome Project on four right-handed subgroups with different gyrification patterns in Heschl's gyrus. Based on these groups, the authors highlight the structure-function relationship of planum temporale asymmetry in lateralised language processing at the group level and next at the individual level. In particular, the authors propose that especially microstructural asymmetries are related to functional auditory language asymmetries in the planum temporale.
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The study is interesting because of an ongoing and long-standing debate about the relationship between structural and functional brain asymmetries, and in particular whether structural brain asymmetries can be seen as markers of functional language brain lateralisation.
In this debate, the relationship between Heschl's gyrus asymmetry and planum temporale asymmetry is rare and therefore valuable here. A large sample size and inter-rater reliability support the findings.
Weaknesses:
The authors highlight the microstructural results, but could also emphasise on their interesting macrostructural results.
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Reviewer #1 (Public review):
This work from Cui, Pan, Fan et al explores memory impairment in chronic pain mouse models, a topic of great interest for the neurobiology field. In particular, the work starts from a very interesting observation, that WT mice can be divided in susceptible and unsusceptible to memory impairment upon modelling chronic pain with CCI. This observation represents the basis of the work where the authors identify the sphingosine receptor S1PR1 as down-regulated in the dentate gyrus of susceptible animals and demonstrate through an elegant range of experiments involving AAV mediated knockdown or overexpression of S1PR1 that this receptor is involved in the memory impairment observed with chronic pain. Importantly for translational purposes, they also show that activation of S1PR1 through a pharmacological paradigm is able to rescue the memory impairment phenotype.
The authors also link these defects to reduced dendritic branching and reduced number of mature excitatory synapses in the DG to the memory phenotype.
They then proceed to explore possible mechanisms downstream of S1PR1 that could explain this reduction in dendritic spines. They identify integrin α2 as an interactor of S1PR1 and show a reduction in several proteins involved in actin dynamic, which is crucial for dendritic spine formation and plasticity.
They thus hypothesize that the interaction between S1PR1 and Integrin α2 is fundamental for the activation of Rac1 and Cdc42 and consequently for the polymerisation of actin; a reduction in this pathway upon chronic pain would thus lead to impaired actin polymerisation, synapse formation and thus impaired memory.
The work is of great interest and the experiments are of very good quality with results of great importance.
Comments on revisions:
The authors have replied satisfactorily to my previous concerns.
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Reviewer #2 (Public review):
Summary:
The study investigates the molecular mechanisms underlying chronic pain-related memory impairment by focusing on S1P/S1PR1 signaling in the dentate gyrus (DG) of the hippocampus. Through behavioural tests (Y-maze and Morris water maze) and RNA-seq analysis, the researchers segregated chronic pain mice into memory impairment-susceptible and -unsusceptible subpopulations. They discovered that S1P/S1PR1 signaling is crucial for determining susceptibility to memory impairment, with decreased S1PR1 expression linked to structural plasticity changes and memory deficits.
Knockdown of S1PR1 in the DG induced a susceptible phenotype, while overexpression or pharmacological activation of S1PR1 promoted resistance to memory impairment and restored normal synaptic structure. The study identifies actin cytoskeleton-related pathways, including ITGA2 and its downstream Rac1/Cdc42 signaling, as key mediators of S1PR1's effects, offering new insights and potential therapeutic targets for chronic pain-related cognitive dysfunction.
This manuscript consists of a comprehensive investigation and significant findings. The study provides novel insights into the molecular mechanisms of chronic pain-related memory impairment, highlighting the critical role of S1P/S1PR1 signaling in the hippocampal dentate gyrus. The clear identification of S1P/S1PR1 as a potential therapeutic target offers promising avenues for future research and treatment strategies. The manuscript is well-structured, methodologically sound, and presents valuable contributions to the field.
Strengths:
(1) The manuscript is well-structured and written in clear, concise language. The flow of information is logical and easy to follow.
(2) The segregation of mice into memory impairment-susceptible and -unsusceptible subpopulations is innovative and well-justified. The statistical analyses are robust and appropriate for the data.
(3) The detailed examination of S1PR1 expression and its impact on synaptic plasticity and actin cytoskeleton reorganization is impressive. The findings are significant and contribute to the understanding of chronic pain-related memory impairment.
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The authors have satisfactorily addressed all the issues raised.
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The paper addresses the knowledge gap between the representation of goal direction in the central complex and how motor systems stabilize movement toward that goal. The authors focused on two descending neurons, DNa01 and 02, and showed that they play different roles in steering the fly toward a goal. They also explored the connectome data to propose a model to explain how these DNs could mediate response to lateralized sensory inputs. They finally used lateralized optogenetic activation/inactivation experiments to test the roles of these neurons in mediating turnings in freely walking flies.
Strengths:
The experiments are well-designed and controlled. The experiment in Figure 4 is elegant, and the authors put a lot of effort into ensuring that ATP puffs do not accidentally activate the DNs. They also have explained complex experiments well. I only have minor comments for the authors.
Weaknesses:
(1) I do not fully understand how the authors extracted the correlation functions from the population data in Figure 1. Since the ipsilateral DNs are anti-correlated with the contralateral ones, I expected that the average will drop to zero when they are pooled together (e.g., 1E-G). Of course, this will not be the case if all the data in Figure 1 are collected from the same brain hemisphere. It would be helpful if the authors could explain this.
(2) What constitutes the goal directions in Figures 1-3 and 8, as the authors could not use EPG activity as a proxy for goal directions? If these experiments were done in the dark, without landmarks, one would expect the fly's heading to drift randomly at times, and they would not engage the DNa01/02 for turning. Do the walking trajectories in these experiments qualify as menotactic bouts?
(3) In Figure 2B, the authors mentioned that DNa02 overpredicts and 01 underpredicts rapid turning and provided single examples. It would be nice to see more population-level quantification to support this claim.
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Reviewer #2 (Public review):
The data is largely electrophysiological recordings coupled with behavioral measurements (technically impressive) and some gain-of-function experiments in freely walking flies. Loss-of-function was tested but had minimal effect, which is not surprising in a system with partially redundant control mechanisms. The data is also consistent with/complementary to subsequent manuscripts (Yang 2023, Feng 2024, and Ros 2024) showing additional descending neurons with contributions to steering in walking and flying.
The experiments are well executed, the results interesting, and the description clear. Some hypotheses based on connectome anatomy are tested: the insights on the pre-synaptic side - how sensory and central complex heading circuits converge onto these DNs are stronger than the suggestions about biomechanical mechanisms for how turning happens on the motor side.
Of particular interest is the idea that different sensory cues can converge on a common motor program. The turn-toward or turn-away mechanism is initiated by valence rather than whether the stimulus was odor or temperature or memory of heading. The idea that animals choose a direction based on external sensory information and then maintain that direction as a heading through a more internal, goal-based memory mechanism, is interesting but it is hard to separate conclusively.
The "see-saw", where left-right symmetry is broken to allow a turn, presumably by excitation on one side and inhibition of the other leg motor modules, is interesting but not well explained here. How hyperpolarization affects motor outputs is not clear.
The statement near Figure 5B that "DNa02 activity was higher on the side ipsilateral to the attractive stimulus, but contralateral to the aversive stimulus" is really important - and only possible to see because of the dual recordings.
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Reviewer #3 (Public review):
Summary:
Rayshubskiy et al. performed whole-cell recordings from descending neurons (DNs) of fruit flies to characterize their role in steering. Two DNs implicated in "walking control" and "steering control" by previous studies (Namiki et al., 2018, Cande et al., 2018, Chen et al., 2018) were chosen by the authors for further characterization. In-vivo whole-cell recordings from DNa01 and DNa02 showed that their activity predicts spontaneous ipsilateral turning events. The recordings also showed that while DNa02 predicts transient turns DNa01 predicts slow sustained turns. However, optogenetic activation or inactivation showed relatively subtle phenotypes for both neurons (consistent with data in other recent preprints, Yang et al 2023 and Feng et al 2024). The authors also further characterized DNa02 with respect to its inputs and showed a functional connection with olfactory and thermosensory inputs as well as with the head-direction system. DNa01 is not characterized to this extent.
Strengths:
(1) In-vivo recordings and especially dual recordings are extremely challenging in Drosophila and provide a much higher resolution DN characterization than other recent studies that have relied on behavior or calcium imaging. Especially impressive are the simultaneous recordings from bilateral DNs (Figure 3). These bilateral recordings show clearly that DNa02 cells not only fire more during ipsilateral turning events but that they get inhibited during contralateral turns. In line with this observation, the difference between left and right DNa02 neuronal activity is a much better predictor of turning events compared to individual DNa02 activity.
(2) Another technical feat in this work is driving local excitation in the head-direction neuronal ensemble (PEN-1 neurons), while simultaneously imaging its activity and performing whole-cell recordings from DNa02 (Figure 4). This impressive approach provided a way to causally relate changes in the head-direction system to DNa02 activity. Indeed, DNa02 activity could predict the rate at which an artificially triggered bump in the PEN-1 ring attractor returns to its previous stable point.
(3) The authors also support the above observations with connectomics analysis and provide circuit motifs that can explain how the head direction system (as well as external olfactory/thermal stimuli) communicated with DNa02. All these results unequivocally put DNa02 as an essential DN in steering control, both during exploratory navigation as well as stimulus-directed turns.
Weaknesses:
(1) I understand that the first version of this preprint was already on biorxiv in 2020, and some of the "weaknesses" I list are likely a reflection of the fact that I'm tasked to review this manuscript in late 2024 (more than 4 years later). But given this is a 2024 updated version it suffers from laying out the results in contemporary terms. For instance, the manuscript lacks any reference to the DNp09 circuit implicated in object-directed turning and upstream to DNa02 even though the authors cite one of the papers where this was analyzed (Braun et al, 2024). More importantly, these studies (both Braun et al 2024 and Sapkal et al 2024) along with recent work from the authors' lab (Yang et al 2023) and other labs (Feng et al 2024) provide a view that the entire suite of leg kinematics changes required for turning are orchestrated by populations of heterogeneous interconnected DNs. Moreover, these studies also show that this DN-DN network has some degree of hierarchy with some DNs being upstream to other DNs. In this contemporary view of steering control, DNa02 (like DNg13 from Yang et al 2023) is a downstream DN that is recruited by hierarchically upstream DNs like DNa03, DNp09, etc. In this view, DNa02 is likely to be involved in most turning events, but by itself unable to drive all the motor outputs required for the said events. This reasoning could be used while discussing the lack of major phenotypes with DNa02 activation or inactivation observed in the current study, which is in stark contrast to strong phenotypes observed in the case of hierarchically upstream DNs like DNp09 or DNa03. In the section, "Contributions of single descending neuron types to steering behavior": the authors start off by asking if individual DNs can make measurable contributions to steering behavior. Once more, any citations to DNp09 or DNa03 - two DNs that are clearly shown to drive strong turning-on activation (Bidaye et al, 2020, Feng et al 2024) - are lacking. Besides misleading the reader, such statements also digress the results away from contemporary knowledge in the field. I appreciate that the brief discussion in the section titled "Ensemble codes for steering" tries to cover these recent updates. However, I think this would serve a better purpose in the introduction and help guide the results.
(2) The second major weakness is the lack of any immunohistochemistry (IHC) images quantifying the expression of the genetic tools used in these studies. Even though the main split-Gal4 tools for DNa01 and DNa02 were previously reported by Namiki et al, 2018, it is important to document the expression with the effectors used in this work and explicitly mention the expression in any ectopic neurons. Similarly, for any experiments where drivers were combined together (double recordings, functional connectivity) or modified for stochastic expression (Figure 8), IHC images are absolutely necessary. Without this evidence, it is difficult to trust many of the results (especially in the case of behavioral experiments in Figure 8). For example, the DNa01 genetic driver used by the authors is also expressed in some neurons in the nerve cord (as shown on the Flylight webpage of Janelia Research Campus). One wonders if all or part of the results described in Figure 8 are due to DNa01 manipulation or manipulation of the nerve cord neurons. The same applies for optic lobe neurons in the DNa02 driver.
(3) The paper starts off with a comparative analysis of the roles of DNa01 and DNa02 during steering. Unfortunately, after this initial analysis, DNa01 is largely ignored for further characterization (e.g. with respect to inputs, connectomics, etc.), only to return in the final figure for behavioral characterization where DNa01 seems to have a stronger silencing phenotype compared to DNa02. I couldn't find an explanation for this imbalance in the characterization of DNa01 versus DNa02. Is this due to technical reasons? Or was it an informed decision due to some results? In addition to being a biased characterization, this also results in the manuscript lacking a coherent thread, which in turn makes it a bit inaccessible to the non-specialist.
(4) There seems to be a discrepancy with regard to what is emphasized in the main text and what is shown in Figures S3/S4 in relation to the role of these DNs in backward walking. There are only two sentences in the main text where these figures are cited.<br /> a) "DNa01 and DNa02 firing rate increases were not consistently followed by large changes in forward velocity (Figs. 1G and S3)."<br /> b) "We found that rotational velocity was consistently related to the difference in right-left firing rates (Fig. 3B). This relationship was essentially linear through its entire dynamic range, and was consistent across paired recordings (Fig. 3C). It was also consistent during backward walking, as well as forward walking (Fig. S4)."<br /> These main text sentences imply the role of the difference between left and right DNa02 in turning. However, the actual plots in the Figures S3 and S4 and their respective legends seem to imply a role in "backward walking". For instance, see this sentence from the legend of Figure S3 "When (ΔvoltageDNa02>>ΔvoltageDNa01), the fly is typically moving backward. When (firing rateDNa02>>firing rateDNa01), the fly is also often moving backward, but forward movement is still more common overall, and so the net effect is that forward velocity is small but still positive when (firing rateDNa02>>firing rateDNa01). Note that when we condition our analysis on behavior rather than neural activity, we do see that backward walking is associated with a large firing rate differential (Fig. S4)." This sort of discrepancy in what is emphasized in the text, versus what is emphasized in the figures, ends up confusing the reader. More importantly, I do not agree with any of these conclusions regarding the implication of backward walking. Both Figures S3 and S4 are riddled with caveats, misinterpretations, and small sample sizes. As a result, I actually support the authors' decision to not infer too much from these figures in the "main text". In fact, I would recommend going one step further and removing/modifying these figures to focus on the role of "rotational velocity". Please find my concerns about these two figures below:<br /> a) In Figures S3 and S4, every heat map has a different scale for the same parameter: forward velocity. S3A is -10 to +10mm/s. S3B is -6 to +6 S4B (left) is -12 to +12 and S4B (right) is -4 to +4. Since the authors are trying to depict results based on the color-coding this is highly problematic.<br /> b) Figure S3A legend "When (ΔvoltageDNa02>>ΔvoltageDNa01), the fly is typically moving backward." There are also several instances when ΔvoltageDNa02= ΔvoltageDNa01 and both are low (lower left quadrant) when the fly is typically moving backwards. So in my opinion, this figure in fact suggests DNa02 has no role in backward velocity control.<br /> c) Based on the example traces in S4A, every time the fly walks backwards it is also turning. Based on this it is important to show absolute rotational velocity in Figure S4C. It could be that the fly is turning around the backward peak which would change the interpretation from Figure S4C. Also, it is important to note that the backward velocities in S4A are unprecedentedly high. No previous reports show flies walking backwards at such high velocities (for example see Chen et al 2018, Nat Comm. for backward walking velocities on a similar setup).<br /> d) In my opinion, Figure S4D showing that right-left DNa02 correlates with rotational velocity, regardless of whether the fly is in a forward or backward walking state, is the only important and conclusive result in Figures S3/S4. These figures should be rearranged to only emphasize this panel.
(5) Figure 3 shows a really nice analysis of the bilateral DNa02 recordings data. While Figure S5 shows that authors have a similar dataset for DNa01, a similar level analysis (Figures 3D, E) is not done for DNa01 data. Is there a reason why this is not done?
(6) In Figure 4 since the authors have trials where bump-jump led to turning in the opposite direction to the DNa02 being recorded, I wonder if the authors could quantify hyperpolarization in DNa02 as is predicted from connectomics data in Figure 7.
(7) Figure 6 suggests that DNa02 contains information about latent steering drives. This is really interesting. However, in order to unequivocally claim this, a higher-resolution postural analysis might be needed. Especially given that DNa02 activation does not reliably evoke ipsilateral turning, these "latent" steering events could actually contain significant postural changes driven by DNa02 (making them "not latent"). Without this information, at least the authors need to explicitly mention this caveat.
(8) Figure 7 would really benefit from connectome data with synapse numbers (or weighted arrows) and a corresponding analysis of DNa01.
(9) In Figure 8E, the most obvious neuronal silencing phenotype is decreased sideways velocity in the case of DNa01 optogenetic silencing. In Figure S2, the inverse filter for sideways velocity for DNa01 had a higher amplitude than the rotational velocity filter. Taken together, does this point at some role for DNa01 in sideways velocity specifically?
(10) In Figure 8G, the effect on inner hind leg stance prolongation is very weak, and given the huge sample size, hard to interpret. Also, it is not clear how this fits with the role of DNa01 in slow sustained turning based on recordings.
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Reviewer #1 (Public review):
In this paper, Wu et al. investigated the physiological roles of CCDC113 in sperm flagellum and HTCA stabilization by using CRISPR/Cas knockouts mouse models, co-IP and single sperm imaging. They find that CCDC113 localizes in the linker region among radial spokes, the nexin-dynein regulatory complex (N-DRC), and doublet microtubules (DMTs) RS, N-DRC and DMTs and interacts with axoneme-associated proteins CFAP57 and CFAP91, acting as an adaptor protein that facilitates the linkage between RS, N-DRC and DMTs within the sperm axoneme. They show the disruption of CCDC113 produced spermatozoa with disorganized sperm flagella and CFAP91, DRC2 could not colocalize with DMTs in Ccdc113-/- spermatozoa. Interestingly, the data also indicate that CCDC113 could localize on the HTCA region, and interact with HTCA-associated proteins. The knockout of Ccdc113 could also produce acephalic spermatozoa. By using Sun5 and Centlein knockout mouse models, the authors further find SUN5 and CENTLEIN are indispensable for the docking of CCDC113 to the implantation site on the sperm head. Overall, the experiments were designed properly and performed well to support the authors' observation in each part. Furthermore, the study's findings offer valuable insights into the physiological and developmental roles of CCDC113 in the male germ line, which can provide insight into impaired sperm development and male infertility. The conclusions of this paper are mostly well supported by data, but some points need to be clarified and discussed.
(1) In Fig. 1, a sperm flagellum protein, which is far way from CCDC113, should be selected as a negative control to exclude artificial effects in co-IP experiments.<br /> (2) Whether the detachment of sperm head and tail in Ccdc113-/- mice is a secondary effect of the sperm flagellum defects? The author should discuss this point.<br /> (3) Given that some cytoplasm materials could be observed in Ccdc113-/- spermatozoa (Fig. 5A), whether CCDC113 is also essential for cytoplasmic removal?<br /> (4) Although CCDC113 could not bind to PMFBP1, the localization of CCDC113 in Pmfbp1-/- spermatozoa should be also detected to clarify the relationship between CCDC113 and SUN5-CENTLEIN-PMFBP1.
Comments on revisions:
The authors addressed all my concerns. The manuscript was greatly improved.
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Summary:
In the present study, the authors select the coiled-coil protein CCDC113 and revealed its expression in the stages of spermatogenesis in the testis as well as in the different steps of spermiogenesis with expression also mapped in the different parts of the epididymis. Gene deletion led to male infertility in CRISPR-Cas9 KO mice and PAS staining showed defects mapped in the different stages of the seminiferous cycle and through the different steps of spermiogenesis. EM and IF with several markers of testis germ cells and spermatozoa in the epididymis indicated defects in flagella and head-to-tail coupling for flagella as well as acephaly. The authors' co-IP experiments of expressed CCDC113 in HEK293T cells indicated an association with CFAP91 and DRC2 as well as SUN5 and CENTLEIN.
The authors propose that CCDC113 connects CFAP91 and DRC2 to doublet microtubules of the axoneme and CCDC113's association with SUN5 and CENTLEIN to stabilize the sperm flagellum head-to-tail coupling apparatus. Extensive experiments mapping CCDC13 during postnatal development are reported as well as negative co-IP experiments and studies with SUN5 KO mice as well as CENTLEIN KO mice.
Strengths:
The authors provide compelling observations to indicate the relevance of CCDC113 to flagellum formation with potential protein partners. The data are relevant to sperm flagella formation and its coupling to the sperm head.
Weaknesses:
The authors' observations are consistent with the model proposed but the authors' conclusions for the mechanism may require direct demonstration in sperm flagella. The Walton et al paper shows human CCDC96/113 in cilia of human respiratory epithelia. An application of such methodology to the proteins indicated by Wu et al for the sperm axoneme and head-tail coupling apparatus is eagerly awaited as a follow-up study.
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Summary:
The authors aimed to investigate the oscillatory activity of GnRH neurones in freely behaving mice. By utilising GCaMP fiber photometry, they sought to record real-time neuronal activity to understand the patterns and dynamics of GnRH neuron firing and their implications for reproductive physiology.
Strengths:
- The use of GCaMP fiber photometry allows for high temporal resolution recordings of neuronal activity, providing real-time data on the dynamics of GnRH neurones.<br /> - Recording in freely behaving animals ensures that the findings are physiologically relevant and not artifacts of a controlled laboratory environment.<br /> - The authors used statistical methods to characterise the oscillatory patterns, ensuring the reliability of their findings.
Weaknesses:
- While the study identifies distinct oscillatory patterns in GnRH neurones' calcium dynamics, it falls short in exploring the functional implications of these patterns for GnRH pulsatility and overall reproductive physiology.<br /> - The study lacks broader discussion to include comparisons with existing studies on GnRH neurone activity and pulsatility and highlight how the findings of this study align with or differ from previous research and what novel contributions are made.<br /> - The authors aimed to characterise the oscillatory activity of GnRH neurons and successfully identified distinct oscillatory patterns. The results support the conclusion that GnRH neurons exhibit complex oscillatory behaviours, which are critical for understanding their role in reproductive physiology. However, it has not been made clear what exactly do the authors mean by "multi-dimensional oscillatory patterns" and how has this been shown.
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Reviewer #2 (Public review):
Summary:
In this manuscript, the authors report GCaMP fiber-photometry recordings from the GnRH neuron distal projections in the ventral arcuate nucleus. The recording are taken from intact, male and female, freely behaving mice. The report three patterns of neuronal activity:
1) abrupt increases in the Ca2+ signals that are perfectly correlated with LH pulses.
2) a gradual, yet fluctuating (with a slow ultradian frequency), increase in activity, which is associated with the onset of the LH surge in female animals.
3) clustered (high frequency) baseline activity in both female and male animals.
Strengths:
The GCaMP fiber-photometry recordings reported here are the first direct recordings from GnRH neurones in free behaving mice. These recordings suggest a rich repertoire of activity, including the integration of distinct "surge" and "pulse" generation signals, and an ultradian rhythm during the onset of the surge.
Weaknesses:
The data analysis methods used for the characterisation of the oscillatory behaviour could be complemented with more advanced wavelet methods to quantify and analyse how the frequency content of the observed Ca2+ signal changes over the cycle.
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Summary:
This paper studies the genetic factors contributing to childhood obesity. Through a comprehensive analysis integrating genome-wide association study (GWAS) data with 3D genomic datasets across 57 human cell types, consisting of Capture-C/Hi-C, ATAC-seq, and RNA-seq, the study identifies significant genetic contributions to obesity using stratified LD score regression, emphasizing the enrichment of genetic signals in pancreatic alpha cells and identification of significant effector genes at obesity-associated loci such as BDNF, ADCY3, TMEM18, and FTO. Additionally, the study implicated ALKAL2, a gene responsive to inflammation in nerve nociceptors, as a novel effector gene at the TMEM18 locus, suggesting a role for inflammatory and neurological pathways in obesity's pathogenesis which was supported through colocalization analysis using eQTL derived from the GTEx dataset. This comprehensive genomic analysis sheds light on the complex genetic architecture of childhood obesity, highlighting the importance of cellular context for future research and the development of more effective strategies.
Strengths:
Overall, the paper has several strengths, including leveraging large-scale, multi-modal datasets, using appropriate computational tools, and in-depth discussion of their significant results.
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In this manuscript, Zhang et al. report a genetic screen to identify novel transcriptional regulators that coordinate mitochondrial biogenesis. They performed an RNAi-based modifier screen wherein they systematically knocked down all known transcription factors in the developing Drosophila eye, which was sensitized and had decreased mitochondrial DNA content. Through this screen, they identify CG1603 as a potential regulator of mitochondrial volume. They show that protein levels of mitochondrial proteins like TFAM, SDHA, and other mitochondrial proteins and mtDNA content are downregulated in CG1603 mutants. RNA-Seq and ChIP-Seq further show that CG1603 binds to the promoter regions of several known nuclear-encoded mitochondrial genes and regulates their expression. Finally, they also identified YL-1 as an upstream regulator of CG1603. Most studies have focused on PGC-1α as a master regulator of mitochondrial biogenesis. which seems to be a context-dependent regulator. Also, PGC-1α mediated regulation does not explain the regulation of 1100 genes that are required for mitochondrial biogenesis. Therefore, identifying new regulators in this work is crucial for the advancement of our understanding of mitochondrial biogenesis.
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Reviewer #2 (Public review):
Summary:
In this study, the authors identified nuclear genome-encoded transcription factors that regulate mtDNA maintenance and mitochondrial biogenesis. They started with an RNAi screening in developing Drosophila eyes with reduced mtDNA content and identified several putative candidate genes. Subsequently, using ChIP-seq data, they built a potential regulatory network that seems to govern mitochondrial biogenesis. Next, they focused on a candidate gene, CG1603 /clifford, for further characterization. Based on the expression of different markers, such as TFAM and SDHA, in RNAi and overexpression clones in the midgut, they argued that CG1603 promotes mitochondrial biogenesis and the expression of ETC complex genes. They used a CG1603 mutant to show reduced mtDNA and mitochondrial protein levels. Clonal analyses showed a reduction in mitochondrial biogenesis and membrane potential upon loss of CG1603. They further showed that the protein is localized to the mitochondria, and binds to polytene chromosomes in the salivary gland. Based on the RNA-seq results from the mutants and the ChIP data, the authors argued that the nucleus-encoded mitochondrial genes are downregulated >2 folds in the CG1603 mutants and that the regulatory elements bound by CG1603 are related to ETC biogenesis. Finally, they showed that YL-1, another candidate in the network, is an upstream regulator of CG1603. The screening strategy was well-designed, and the follow-up experiments were nicely executed.
Comments on revisions:
The authors have addressed my previous comments satisfactorily.
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Summary:
This study shows that the pro-inflammatory S1P signaling regulates the responses of muller glial cells to damage. The authors describe the expression of S1P signaling components. Using agonist and antagonist of the pathways they also investigate their effect on the de-differentiation and proliferation of Muller glial cells in damaged retina of postnatal chicks. They show that S1PR1 is highly expressed in resting MG and non-neurogenic MGPCs. This receptor suppresses the proliferation and neuronal activity promotes MGPC cell cycle re-entry and enhanced the number of regenerated amacrine-like cells after retinal damage. The formation of MGPCs in damaged retinas is impaired in the absence of microglial cells. This study further shows that ablation of microglial cells from the retina increases the expression of S1P-related genes in MG, whereas inhibition of S1PR1 and SPHK1 partially rescues the formation of MGPCs in damaged retinas depleted of microglia. The studies also show that expression of S1P-related genes is conserved in fish and human retinas.
Strengths:
This is well-conducted study, with convincing images and statistically relevant data
Weaknesses:
However, given that S1P is upstream N NF-κB signaling, it is unclear if it offers conceptual innovations as compared to previous studies from the same team (Palazzo et al. 2020; 2022, 2023)
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Reviewer #2 (Public review):
Summary:
Sphingosine-1-phosphate (S1P) metabolic and signaling genes are expressed highly in retinal Müller glia (MG) cells. This study tested how S1P signaling regulates glial phenotype, dedifferentiation of, reprogramming into proliferating MG-derived progenitor cells (MGPCs), and neuronal differentiation of the progeny of MGPCs using in vivo chick retina. Major techniques used are Sc-RNASeq and immunohistochemistry to determine the gene expression and proliferation of MG cells that co-label with signaling antibodies or mRNA FISH following treating the in vivo eyes with various S1P signaling antagonists, agonists, and signal modulators. The major conclusions drawn are supported by the results presented. However, the methodology they have used to modulate the S1P pathway using various chemical drugs raises questions about the outcomes and whether those are the real effects of S1P receptor modulation or S1P synthesis inhibition.
Strengths:
- Use of elaborated single-cell RNAseq expression data.<br /> - Use of FISH for S1P receptors and kinase as a good quality antibody is not available.<br /> - Use of EdU assay in combination with IHC<br /> - Comparison with human and Zebrafish Sc-RNA data
Weaknesses:
The methodology is not very clean. A number of drugs (inhibitors/ antagonists/agonists signal modulators) are used to modulate S1P expression or signaling in the retina without evidence that these drugs are reaching the target cells. No alternative evaluation if the drugs, in fact, are effective. The drug solubility in the vehicle and in the vitreous is not provided, and how did they decide on using a single dose of each drug to have the optimal expected effect on the S1P pathway?
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Summary:
Shrestha et al report an investigation of mechanisms underlying gustatory preference for carboxylic acids in Drosophila. They begin with a screen of selected IR mutants, identifying 5 candidates - 2 IR co-receptors and 3 other IRs - whose loss of function causes defects in feeding preference for one or more of the three tested carboxylic acids. The requirement for IR51b, IR94a, and IR94h in carboxylic acid responses is evaluated in more detail using behavior, electrophysiology (labellar sensilla), and calcium imaging (pharyngeal neurons). The behavioral valence of IR94a and IR94h neurons is assessed using optogenetics. Overall the study uses a variety of approaches to test and validate the requirement of IRs in pharyngeal carboxylic acid taste.
Strengths:
The involvement of the identified IRs in gustatory responses to carboxylic acids is very clear from this study. The authors use mutants and transgenic rescue experiments and evaluate outcomes using electrophysiology, behavior, and imaging. Complementary approaches of loss-of-function and artificial activation support the main conclusion that the identified pharyngeal neurons sense carboxylic acids and convey a positive behavioral valence.
Weaknesses:
Some aspects of expression analysis and calcium imaging need to be clarified to better support the conclusions.
(1) The conclusion of two parallel IR-mediated pathways rests on expression analysis of Ir94a-GAL4 and Ir94h-GAL4 lines and the observation that Ir51b expression driven by either can rescue the Ir51b mutant phenotype. However, the expression analysis is not as rigorous as it needs to be for such a conclusion. Prior work found co-expression of Ir94a and Ir94h in the LSO. Here, the co-expression of the two drivers has not been examined, and Ir94a-GAL4 does not appear to be expressed in the LSO. Given the challenges in validating expression patterns in pharyngeal organs, the possibility that the drivers do not entirely capture endogenous expression cannot be ruled out. Rescue experiments using feeding preference or single-cell imaging don't suffice as validation. Plus, the expression of Ir51b could not be defined.
(2) The description of methods and results for the ex vivo calcium imaging is not satisfactory. Details about which cells are being analyzed, and in which organs are not included. No solvent stimulus is tested. The temporal dynamics of the responses are not presented. Movies of the imaging are not included as supplementary information - it would be important to visualize those with what was considered modest movement.
(3) The observed differences in phenotypes of Ir25a and Ir76b mutants are intriguing, as are those between the co-receptor mutants and Ir51b, Ir94a, and Ir94h, but have not been sufficiently considered. Prior studies have also found roles for other response modes (OFF response), other IRs and GRs, and other organs (labellum, tarsi) in behavioral responses to carboxylic acids. Overall, the authors' model may be overly simplistic, and the discussion does not do justice to how their model reconciles with the body of work that already exists.
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Reviewer #2 (Public review):
Shrestha et al investigated the role of IR receptors in the detection of 3 carboxylic acids in adult Drosophila. A low concentration of either of these carboxylic acids added to 2 mM sucrose (1% lactic acid (LA), citric acid (CA), or glycolic acid (GA)) stimulates the consumption of adult flies in choice conditions. The authors use this behavioral test to screen the impact of mutations within 33 receptors belonging to the IR family, a large family of receptors derived from glutamate receptors and expressed both in the olfactory and gustatory sensilla of insects. Within the panel of mutants tested, they observed that 3 receptors (IR25a, IR51b, and IR76b) impaired the detection of LA, CA, and GA, and that 2 others impacted the detection of CA and GA (IR94a and IR94h). Interestingly, impairing IR51b, IR94a, and IR94h did not affect the electrophysiological responses of external gustatory sensilla to LA, CA, and GA. Thanks to the use of GAL4 strains associated with these receptors and thanks to the use of poxn mutants (which do not develop external gustatory sensilla but still have functional internal receptors), they show evidence that IR94a and IR94h are only expressed in two clusters of gustatory neurons of the pharynx, respectively in the VCSO (ventral cibarial sense organ) and in the VCSO + LSO (labral sense organ). As for IR51b, the GAL4 approach was not successful but RT-PCR made on different parts of the insect showed an expression both in the pharyngeal organs and in peripheral receptors. These main findings are then complemented by a host of additional experiments meant to better understand the respective roles of IR94a and IR94h, by using optogenetics and brain calcium imaging using GCamp6. They also report a failed attempt to co-express IR51b, IR94a, and IR94h into external receptors, a co-expression which did not confer the capability of bitter-sensitive cells (expressing GR33a-GAL4) to detect either of the carboxylic acids. These data complete and expand previous observations made on this group and others, and dot to 2 new IR receptors which show an unsuspected specific expression, into organs that still remain difficult to study.
The conclusions of this paper are supported by the data presented, but it remains difficult to make general conclusions as concerns the mechanisms by which carboxylic acids are detected.
(1) All experiments were done with 1% of carboxylic acids. What is the dose dependency of the behavioral responses to these acids, and is it conceivable that other receptors are involved at other concentrations?
(2) One result needs to be better discussed and hypotheses proposed - which is why the mutations of most receptors lead to a loss of detection (mutant flies become incapable of detecting the acid) while mutations in IR94a and IR94h make CA and GA potent deterrents. Does it mean that CA and GA are detected by another set of receptors that, when activated, make flies actively avoid CA and GA? In that case, do the authors think that testing receptors one by one is enough to uncover all the receptors participating in the detection of these substances?
(3) The paper needs to be updated with a recent paper published by Guillemin et al (2024), indicating that LA is detected externally by a combination of IR94e, IR76b and IR25a. IR25a might help to form a fully functional receptor in GR33a neurons (a former study from Chen et al (2017) indicate that IR25a is expressed in all gustatory neurons of the pharynx).
(4) Although it was not the main focus of the paper, it would have been most interesting if the cells expressing IR94a and IR94h were identified, and placed on the functional map proposed by the group of Dahanukar (Chen et al 2017 Cell Reports, Chen et al 2019 Cell Reports).
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Reviewer #3 (Public review):
Summary:
In this work, the authors investigated the molecular and cellular basis of sour taste perception in Drosophila melanogaster, focusing on identifying receptors that mediate attractive responses to certain carboxylic acids. It builds on previous work from the same group that had identified the IR co-receptors IR25a and IR76b for this sensory process, screening a set of mutants in IRs to identify three, IR51b, IR94a, and IR94h, required for feeding preference responses to some or all of the tested acids.
Strengths:
The work is of interest because it assigns sensory roles to IRs of previously unknown function, in particular IR94a and IR94h, and points to pharyngeal neurons in which these receptors are expressed as the relevant sensory neurons (potentially with different roles for IR94a- and IR94h-expressing neurons). The work combines elegant genetics, simple but effective feeding and taste assays, chemo-/opto-genetic activation, and some calcium imaging. Overall the presented data look solid and well-controlled.
Weaknesses:
The in situ expression analysis relies entirely on transgenic driver lines for IR94a and IR94h (which had been previously described, though not fully cited in this work). Importantly, given that many of the behavioral experiments (genetic rescue, physiology, artificial activation) use the IR94a and IR94h GAL4 driver lines, it would be helpful to validate that these faithfully reflect IR94a and IR94h expression (as far as I can tell, such validation wasn't done in the original papers describing these lines as part of a large collection of IR drivers). For IR51b, pharyngeal expression is concluded indirectly from non-quantitative RT-PCR analysis (genetic reporters did not work). The lack of direct detection of gene/protein expression (for example, through RNA FISH, immunofluorescence, or protein tagging) would have made for a more complete characterization of these receptors (for example, there is no direct evidence that they also express IR25a and IR76b, as one might expect). Finally, the relationship of IR94a and IR94h neurons to other types of pharyngeal neurons remains unclear, as are their projection patterns in the SEZ.
Conceptually, the work is of interest mostly to those in the immediate field; there have been a very large number of studies in the past decade (several from this lab) characterizing the contributions of different IRs to various chemosensory processes. The current work doesn't lend much insight into the nature of the minimal functional unit of gustatory IRs (reconstitution of a functional IR in a heterologous neuron/cell has not been achieved here, but this is a limitation of many other previous studies), nor to how different pharyngeal sensory pathways might collaborate to control behavior. Nevertheless, the findings provide a useful contribution to the literature.
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Reviewer #2 (Public review):
Summary:
Salt stress is a significant and growing concern for agriculture in some parts of the world. While the effects of sodium excess have been studied in Arabidopsis and (many) crop species, most studies have focused on Na uptake, toxicity and overall effects on yield, rather than on developmental responses to excess Na, per se. The work by Ishka and colleagues aims to fill this gap.
Working from an existing dataset that exposed a diverse panel of A. thaliana accessions to control, moderate, and severe salt stress, the authors identify candidate loci associated with altering the root:shoot ratio under salt stress. Following a series of molecular assays, they characterize a DUF247 protein which they dub SR3G, which appears to be a negative regulator of root growth under salt stress.
Overall, this is a well-executed study which demonstrates the functional role played by a single gene in plant response to salt stress in Arabidopsis.
Review of revised manuscript:
The authors have addressed my point-by-point comments to my satisfaction. In the cases where they have changed their manuscript language, clarified figures, or added analyses I have no further comment. In some cases, there is a fruitful back-and-forth discussion of methodology which I think will be of interest to readers.
I have nothing to add during this round of review. I think that the paper and associated discussion will make a nice contribution to the field
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Reviewer #1 (Public review):
Summary:
The authors aim to assess the effect of salt stress on root:shoot ratio, identify the underlying genetic mechanisms, and evaluate their contribution to salt tolerance. To this end, the authors systematically quantified natural variations in salt-induced changes in root:shoot ratio. This innovative approach considers the coordination of root and shoot growth rather than exploring biomass and the development of each organ separately. Using this approach, the authors identified a gene cluster encoding eight paralog genes with a domain-of-unknown-function 247 (DUF247), with the majority of SNPs clustering into SR3G (At3g50160). In the manuscript, the authors utilized an integrative approach that includes genomic, genetic, evolutionary, histological, and physiological assays to functionally assess the contribution of their genes of interest to salt tolerance and root development.
Comments on revisions:
As the authors correctly noted, variations across samples, genotypes, or experiments make achieving statistical significance challenging. Should the authors choose to emphasize trends across experiments to draw biological conclusions, careful revisions of the text, including titles and figure legends, will be necessary to address some of the inconsistencies between figures (see examples below). However, I would caution that this approach may dilute the overall impact of the work on SR3G function and regulation. Therefore, I strongly recommend pursuing additional experimental evidence wherever possible to strengthen the conclusions.
(1) Given the phenotypic differences shown in Figures S17A-B, 10A-C, and 6A, the statement that "SR3G does not play a role in plant development under non-stress conditions" (lines 680-681) requires revision to better reflect the observed data.<br /> (2) I agree with the authors that detecting expression differences in lowly expressed genes can be challenging. However, as demonstrated in the reference provided (Lu et al., 2023), a significant reduction in WRKY75 expression is observed in T-DNA insertion mutant alleles of WRKY75. In contrast, Fig. 9B in the current manuscript shows no reduction in WRKY75 expression in the two mutant alleles selected by the authors, which suggests that these alleles cannot be classified as loss-of-function mutants (line 745). Additionally, the authors note that the wrky75 mutant exhibits reduced main root length under salt stress, consistent with the phenotype reported by Lu et al. (2023). However, other phenotypic discrepancies exist between the two studies. For example, 1) Lu et al. (2023) report that w¬rky75 root length is comparable to WT under control conditions, whereas the current manuscript shows that wrky75 root growth is significantly lower than WT; 2) under salt stress, Lu et al. (2023) show that wrky75 accumulates higher levels of Na+, whereas the current study finds Na+ levels in wrky75 indistinguishable from WT. To confirm the loss of WRKY75 function in these T-DNA insertion alleles the authors should provide additional evidence (e.g., Western blot analysis).
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Reviewer #1 (Public review):
Summary:
In this study, the authors used a chronic murine dietary restriction model to study the effects of chronic malnutrition on controls of bacterial infection and overall immunity, including cellularity and functions of different immune cell types. They further attempted to determine whether refeeding can revert the infection susceptibility and immunodeficiency. Although refeeding here improves anthropometric deficits, the authors of this study show that this is insufficient to recover the impairments across the immune cell compartments.
Strengths:
The manuscript is well-written and conceived around a valid scientific question. The data supports the idea that malnutrition contributes to infection susceptibility and causes some immunological changes. The malnourished mouse model also displayed growth and development delays. The work's significance is well justified. Immunological studies in the malnourished cohort (human and mice) are scarce, so this could add valuable information.
Weaknesses:
The assays on myeloid cells are limited, and the study is descriptive and overstated. The authors claim that "this work identifies a novel cellular link between prior nutritional state and immunocompetency, highlighting dysregulated myelopoiesis as a major." However, after reviewing the entire manuscript, I found no cellular mechanism defining the link between nutritional state and immunocompetency.
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Reviewer #2 (Public review):
Summary:
Sukhina et al. use a chronic murine dietary restriction model to investigate the cellular mechanisms underlying nutritionally acquired immunodeficiency as well as the consequences of a refeeding intervention. The authors report a substantial impact of undernutrition on the myeloid compartment, which is not rescued by refeeding despite rescue of other phenotypes including lymphocyte levels, and which is associated with maintained partial susceptibility to bacterial infection.
Strengths:
Overall, this is a nicely executed study with appropriate numbers of mice, robust phenotypes, and interesting conclusions, and the text is very well-written. The authors' conclusions are generally well-supported by their data.
Weaknesses:
There is little evaluation of known critical drivers of myelopoiesis (e.g. PMID 20535209, 26072330, 29218601) over the course of the 40% diet, which would be of interest with regard to comparing this chronic model to other more short-term models of undernutrition.
Further, the microbiota, which is well-established to be regulated by undernutrition (e.g. PMID 22674549, 27339978, etc.), and also well-established to be a critical regulator of hematopoiesis/myelopoiesis (e.g. PMID 27879260, 27799160, etc.), is completely ignored here.
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Reviewer #3 (Public review):
Summary:
Sukhina et al are trying to understand the impacts of malnutrition on immunity. They model malnutrition with a diet switch from ad libitum to 40% caloric restriction (CR) in post-weaned mice. They test impacts on immune function with listeriosis. They then test whether re-feeding corrects these defects and find aspects of emergency myelopoiesis that remain defective after a precedent period of 40% CR. Overall, this is a very interesting observational study on the impacts of sudden prolonged exposure to less caloric intake.
Strengths:
The study is rigorously done. The observation of lasting defects after a bout of 40% CR is quite interesting. Overall, I think the topic and findings are of interest.
Weaknesses:
While the observations are interesting, in this reviewer's opinion, there is both a lack of mechanistic understanding of the phenomena and also some lack of resolution/detail about the phenomena itself. Addressing the following major issues would be helpful towards aspects of both:
(1) Is it calories, per se, or macro/micronutrients that drive these phenotypes observed with 40% CR. At the least, I would want to see isocaloric diets (primarily protein, fat, or carbs) and then some of the same readouts after 40% CR. Ie does low energy with relatively more eg protein prevent immunosuppression (as is commonly suggested)? Micronutrients would be harder to test experimentally and may be out of the scope of this study. However, it is worth noting that many of the malnutrition-associated diseases are micronutrient deficiencies.
(2) Is immunosuppression a function of a certain weight loss threshold? Or something else? Some idea of either the tempo of immunosuppression (happens at 1, in which weight loss is detected; vs 2-3, when body length and condition appear to diverge; or 5 weeks), or grade of CR (40% vs 60% vs 80%) would be helpful since the mechanism of immunosuppression overall is unclear (but nailing it may be beyond the scope of this communication).
(3) Does an obese mouse that gets 40% CR also become immunodeficient? As it stands, this ad libitum --> 40% CR model perhaps best models problems in the industrial world (as opposed to always being 40% CR from weaning, as might be more common in the developing world), and so modeling an obese person losing a lot of weight from CR (like would be achieved with GLP-1 drugs now) would be valuable to understanding generalizability.
(4) Generalizing this phenomenon as "bacterial" with listeriosis, which is more like a virus in many ways (intracellular phase, requires type I IFN, etc.) and cannot be given by the natural route of infection in mice, may not be most accurate. I would want to see an experiment with E.Coli, or some other bacteria, to test the statement of generalizability (ie is it bacteria, or type I IFN-pathway dominant infections, like viruses). If this is unique listeriosis, it doesn't undermine the story as it is at all, but it would just require some word-smithing.
(5) Previous reports (which the authors cite) implicate Leptin, the levels of which scale with fat mass, as "permissive" of a larger immune compartment (immune compartment as "luxury function" idea). Is their phenotype also leptin-mediated (ie leptin AAV)?
(6) The inability of re-feeding to "rescue" the myeloid compartment is really interesting. Can the authors do a bone marrow transplantation (CR-->ad libitum) to test if this effect is intrinsic to the CR-experienced bone marrow?
(7) Is the defect in emergency myelopoiesis a defect in G-CSF? Ie if the authors injected G-CSF in CR animals, do they equivalently mobilize neutrophils? Does G-CSF supplementation (as one does in humans) rescue host defense against Listeria in the CR or re-feeding paradigms?
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Reviewer #1 (Public review):
Syngnathid fishes (seahorses, pipefishes, and seadragons) present very particular and elaborated features among teleosts and a major challenge is to understand the cellular and molecular mechanisms that permitted such innovations and adaptations. The study provides a valuable new resource to investigate the morphogenetic basis of four main traits characterizing syngnathids, including the elongated snout, toothlessness, dermal armor and male pregnancy. More particularly, the authors have focused on a late stage of pipefish organogenesis to perform single-cell RNA-sequencing (scRNA-seq) completed by in situ hybridization analyses to identify molecular pathways implicated in the formation of the different specific traits.<br /> The first set of data explores the scRNA-seq atlas composed of 35,785 cells from two samples of gulf pipefish embryos that authors have been able to classify into major cell types characterizing vertebrate organogenesis, including epithelial, connective, neural and muscle progenitors. To affirm identities and discover potential properties of clusters, authors primarily use KEGG analysis that reveals enriched genetic pathways in each cell types. After revisions, the authors have provided extended supplementary files to well interpret the dataset and some statements have been clarified. I thank the authors for the revisions/completions of ISH results compared to initial submission.
To conclude, the scRNA-seq dataset in this unconventional model organism will be useful for the community and will provide clues for future research to understand the extraordinary evolution of the Syngnathidae family.
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Reviewer #2 (Public review):
Summary:
The authors present the first single-cell atlas for syngathid fishes, providing a resource for future evolution & development studies in this group.
Strengths:
The concept here is simple and I find the manuscript to be well written. I like the in situ hybridization of marker genes >> this is really nice. I also appreciate the gene co-expression analysis to identify modules of expression. There are no explicit hypotheses tested in the manuscript, but the discovery of these cell types should have value in this organism and in the determination of morphological novelties in seahorses and their relatives.
Weaknesses:
I think there are a few computational analyses that might improve the generality of the results.
(1) The cell types: The authors use marker gene analysis and KEGG pathways to identify cell types. I'd suggest a tool like SAMap (https://elifesciences.org/articles/66747) which compares single cell data sets from distinct organisms to identify 'homologous' cell types -- I imagine the zebrafish developmental atlases could serve as a reasonable comparative reference.
(2) Trajectory analyses: Authors suggest that their analyses might identify progenitor cell states and perhaps related differentiated states. They might explore cytoTRACE and/or pseudotime-based trajectory analyses to more fully delineate these ideas.
(3) Cell-cell communication: I think it's very difficult to identify 'tooth primordium' cell types, because cell types won't be defined by organ in this way. for instance dental glia will cluster with other glia, dental mesenchyme will likely cluster with other mesenchymal cell types. so the histology and ISH in most convincing in this regard. having said this, given the known signaling interactions in the developing tooth (and in development generally) the authors might explore cell-cell communication analysis (e.g., CellChat) to identify cell types that may be interacting.
Comments on revisions:
I feel essentially the same about this manuscript. it's a useful resource for future experimental forays into this unique system. The team made improvements to deal with comments from other reviewers related to quality of confirmatory in situ hybridization. This is good.
Regarding their response that one can't use CellChat if you're not working in mice or human, this is inaccurate. the assumption one makes is that ligand-receptor pairs and signaling pathways have conserved functions across animals (vertebrates). It's the same assumption the authors make when using the KEGG pathway to score enrichment of pathways in clusters. CellChat used in fishes in Johnson et al 2023 Nature Communications | ( 2023) 14:4891.
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Reviewer #3 (Public review):
Summary:
This study established a single-cell RNA sequencing atlas of pipefish embryos. The results obtained identified unique gene expression patterns for pipefish-specific characteristics, such as fgf22 in the tip of the palatoquadrate and Meckel's cartilage, broadly informing the genetic mechanisms underlying morphological novelty in teleost fishes. The data obtained are unique and novel, potentially important in understanding fish diversity. Thus, I would enthusiastically support this manuscript if the authors improve it to generate stronger and more convincing conclusions than the current forms.
Weakness:
Regarding the expression of sfrp1a and bmp4 dorsal to the elongating ethmoid plate and surrounding the ceratohyal: Are their expression patterns spatially extended or broader compared to the pipefish ancestor? Is there a much closer species available to compare gene expression patterns with pipefish? Did the authors consider using other species closely related to pipefish for ISH? Sfrp1a and bmp4 may be expressed in the same regions of much more closely related species without face elongation. I understand that embryos of such species are not always accessible, but it is also hard to argue responsible genes for a specific phenotype by only comparing gene expression patterns between distantly related species (e.g., pipefish vs. zebrafish). Due to the same reason, I would not directly compare/argue gene expression patterns between pipefish and mice, although I should admit that mice gene expression patterns are sometimes helpful to make a hypothesis of fish evolution. Alternatively, can the authors conduct ISH in other species of pipefish? If the expression patterns of sfrp1a and bmp4 are common among fishes with face elongation, the conclusion would become more solid. If these embryos are not available, is it possible to reduce the amount of Wnt and BMP signal using Crispr/Cas, MO, or chemical inhibitor? I do think that there are several ways to test the Wnt and/or BMP hypothesis in face elongation.
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Reviewer #1 (Public review):
Summary:
This study investigates an intriguing question in cognitive control from a temporal dynamics perspective: why does concurrent verbal working memory load eliminate the color-word Stroop effect? Through a series of thorough data analyses, the authors propose that verbal working memory load occupies the stimulus-response mapping resources represented by theta-band activity, thereby disrupting the mapping process for task-irrelevant distractors. This reduces the response tendency to the distractors, ultimately leading to the elimination of the Stroop effect.
Strengths:
The behavioral and neural evidence presented in the manuscript is solid, and the findings have valuable theoretical implications for research on Stroop conflict processing.
Weaknesses:
There are several areas where the manuscript could be improved.
Major Comments:
(1) In the Results section, the rationale behind selecting the beta band for the central (C3, CP3, Cz, CP4, C4) regions and the theta band for the fronto-central (Fz, FCz, Cz) regions is not clearly explained in the main text. This information is only mentioned in the figure captions. Additionally, why was the beta band chosen for the S-ROI fronto-central region and the theta band for the S-ROI central region? Was this choice influenced by the MVPA results?
(2) In the Data Analysis section, line 424 states: "Only trials that were correct in both the memory task and the Stroop task were included in all subsequent analyses. In addition, trials in which response times (RTs) deviated by more than three standard deviations from the condition mean were excluded from behavioral analyses." The percentage of excluded trials should be reported. Also, for the EEG-related analyses, were the same trials excluded, or were different criteria applied?
(3) In the Methods section, line 493 mentions: "A 400-200 ms pre-stimulus time window was selected as the baseline time window." What is the justification in the literature for choosing the 400-200 ms pre-stimulus window as the baseline? Why was the 200-0 ms pre-stimulus period not considered?
(4) Is the primary innovation of this study limited to the methodology, such as employing MVPA and RSA to establish the relationship between late theta activity and behavior?
(5) On page 14, lines 280-287, the authors discuss a specific pattern observed in the alpha band. However, the manuscript does not provide the corresponding results to substantiate this discussion. It is recommended to include these results as supplementary material.
(6) On page 16, lines 323-328, the authors provide a generalized explanation of the findings. According to load theory, stimuli compete for resources only when represented in the same form. Since the pre-memorized Chinese characters are represented semantically in working memory, this explanation lacks a critical premise: that semantic-response mapping is also represented semantically during processing.
(7) The classic Stroop task includes both a manual and a vocal version. Since stimulus-response mapping in the vocal version is more automatic than in the manual version, it is unclear whether the findings of this study would generalize to the impact of working memory load on the Stroop effect in the vocal version.
(8) While the discussion section provides a comprehensive analysis of the study's results, the authors could further elaborate on the theoretical and practical contributions of this work.
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Reviewer #2 (Public review):
Summary:
Li et al. explored which stage of Stroop conflict processing was influenced by working memory loads. Participants completed a single task (Stroop task) and a dual task (the Sternberg working memory task combined with the Stroop task) while their EEG data was recorded. They adopted the event-related potential (ERP), and multivariate pattern analyses (MVPA) to investigate the interaction effect of task (single/dual) and congruency (congruent/incongruent). The results showed that the interaction effect was significant on the sustained potential (SP; 650-950 ms), the late theta (740-820 ms), and beta (920-1040 ms) power but not significant on the early P1 potential (110-150 ms). They used the representational similarity analyses (RSA) method to explore the correlation between behavioral and neural data, and the results revealed a significant contribution of late theta activity.
Strengths:
(1) The experiment is well-designed.
(2) The data were analyzed in depth from both time and frequency domain perspectives by combining several methods.
Weaknesses:
(1) As the researchers mentioned, a previous study reported a diminished Stroop effect with concurrent working memory tasks to memorize meaningless visual shapes rather than memorize Chinese characters as in the study. My main concern is that lower-level graphic processing when memorizing visual shapes also influences the Stroop effect. The stage of Stroop conflict processing affected by the working memory load may depend on the specific content of the concurrent working memory task. If that's the case, I sense that the generalization of this finding may be limited.
(2) The P1 and N450 components are sensitive to congruency in previous studies as mentioned by the researchers, but the results in the present study did not replicate them. This raised concerns about data quality and needs to be explained.
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