Reviewer #1 (Public review):

[Editors' note: this version has been assessed by the Reviewing Editor without further input from the original reviewers. The authors have addressed the comments raised in the previous round of review.]

Summary:

This manuscript by Zhao et. al investigates the canonical hedgehog pathway in testis development of Nile tilapia. They used complementary approaches with genetically modified tilapia and transfected TSL cells (a clonal stem Leydig cell line) previously derived from 3-mo old tilapia. The approach is innovative and provides a means to investigate DHH and each downstream component from the ptch receptors to the gli and sf1 transcription factors. They concluded that Dhh binds Ptch2 to stimulate Gli1 to promote an increase in Sf1 expression leading to the onset of 11-ketotesterone synthesis heralding the differentiation of Leydig cells in the developing male tilapia.'

Strengths of the methods and results:

- The use of Nile tilapia is important as it is an important aquaculture species, it shares the genetic pathway for sex determination of mammalian species, and molecular differentiation pathways are highly conserved<br /> - The approach is rigorous and incorporates a novel TSL, clonal stem Leydig cell model that they developed that is relatively faithful in following endogenous developmental steps and can produce the appropriate steroid.<br /> - Tilapia are relatively amenable to CRISPR/Cas9 targeting and, with their accelerated developmental time frame, provide an excellent model system to interrogate specific signaling pathways.<br /> - The stepwise analysis from dhh-gli-sf1 is thoughtful and well done.

Achieved Aims: The authors set out to test the hypothesis that the canonical Dhh signaling pathway for Leydig cell differentiation and steroidogenic activity is mediated via ptch2 and gli1 regulation of sf1. The results are strong, there are additional steps needed to verify that redundancy/compensation is not contributing to the outcomes.

This work is important in better understanding of nuanced commonalities and differences in developmental pathways across species. Specific to Leydig cell differentiation and steroidogenesis, their work with tilapia supports conservation of the canonical Dhh pathway; however, there appear to be some differences in downstream mediators compared to mouse. Specifically, they conclude that ptch2/gli1 stimulates sf1 and steroidogenesis in tilapia where gli1 is dispensable in mouse. Instead, Gli3 has recently been shown to play an important role to stimulate Sf1 and support the hedgehog pathway.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

[Editors' note: this version has been assessed by the Reviewing Editor without further input from the original reviewers. The authors have addressed the comments raised in the previous round of review.]

Summary:

The authors describe co-regulated gene modules underlying stage differentiation in Leishmania donovani through a system-level analysis of multiple molecular layers. Using amastigotes isolated from infected hamster spleens and corresponding culture-derived promastigotes, they analyzed genomic variation, transcript abundance, protein levels, phosphorylation states, and metabolite profiles. By combining these, the study identified potential regulatory mechanisms associated with parasite differentiation and generated hypotheses regarding how gene expression is coordinated across different levels.

Strengths:

A major strength of the study is the breadth of the dataset generated. The integration provides an unusually comprehensive view of molecular changes associated with Leishmania differentiation in vitro. Such multi-layer datasets involving bona fide vertebrate host stages remain relatively rare in parasitology and will likely become a valuable resource for the molecular parasitology community. In addition, the use of amastigotes isolated from infected hamsters rather than relying on axenic models provided a biologically relevant framework for the analyses.

The revised manuscript improved several aspects of the original. The RNA-seq analysis is described with a clearer pipeline, and several claims regarding causal regulatory feedback associations have been appropriately toned down. Among the observations reported, the association between parasite differentiation and proteasome-mediated protein degradation is particularly remarkable. The combination of quantitative proteomics with pharmacological inhibition of the proteasome with lactacystin provides support for a role for protein turnover in developmental transitions and paves the way for future mechanistic studies.

Weaknesses:

Most regulatory interpretations remain largely inferential or indirect. The integration identifies correlations between different levels, but direct functional validation is limited/absent. Many of the descriptions should not be interpreted as validated. As highlighted by the authors in this revised version, the mechanistic studies will be part of future work and are beyond the scope of the current work. Of note, the attempt to confirm lactacystin-induced inhibition of proteasomal activity via anti-polyUb immunoblotting did not demonstrate the expected outcome of increase in overall poly-ubiquitylation.Editors' note: this version has been assessed by the Reviewing Editor without further input from the original reviewers. The authors have addressed the comments raised in the previous round of review.]

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Pescher and colleagues present a revised manuscript detailing the multi-omic characterisation of Leishmania donovani amastigote to promastigote differentiation and integration of this data. The molecular pathways that regulate Leishmania life-stage transitions are still poorly understood, with many approaches exploring single proteins/RNAs etc in a reductionist manner. This paper takes a systems-scale approach and does a good job of integrating the disparate -omics datasets to generate hypotheses about the intersections of regulatory proteins that are associated with life-cycle progression. The differentiation step studied is from amastigote to promastigote using hamster-derived amastigotes which is a major strength. The use of hamsters permits the extraction of parasites that are host adapted and represent "normal", host-adapted Leishmania ploidy; the promastigote experiments are performed at a low passage number. Therefore, this is a strength or the work as it reduces the interference from the biological plasticity of Leishmania when it is cultured outside the host for prolonged periods. The multi-omics datasets presented are robust in their acquisition and analysis and will form an excellent resource for researchers studying the molecular events (particularly proteasomal protein degradation, and phosphorylation) during life-stage progression.

Overall, in the absence of follow up experiments on specific individual examples, some of the claims in the original submission were toned down and reflect a more neutral description of the data now. Significantly, the data still underpin a key role for regulation of the ribosome between the amastigote and promastigote stages (and during the differentiation process). The recursive and reciprocal links between the phosphorylation and ubiquitination systems are interesting and present many opportunities for future investigation.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

Summary:

The authors proposed to use 5-layer systems level analysis (genomics, transcriptomics, proteomics / protein degradation, metabolomics, phosphoproteomics) to uncover how post-transcriptional mechanisms regulate stage differentiation in Leishmania donovani.<br /> This enabled the identification of several potential regulatory networks, including the regulation of stage-specific gene clusters by RNA stabilisation or decay, proteasomal degradation and protein phosphorylation.

In the new version of this manuscript, the authors have addressed all questions raised by the reviewers.

Strengths:

Although some observations in this study have already been described in the literature, the integrated analysis applied here provides a novel view on how different levels of post-transcriptional networks regulate Leishmania differentiation. This "5-layer system" represents the first analysis of this depth in kinetoplastid parasites.<br /> The revised version with an increased sample number for the RNA-seq now made the authors assumptions adequate to their obtained data.<br /> The use of a proteasomal inhibitor adds an interesting insight in how protein degradation is involved in the parasite differentiation, confirming previous observations in the literature, and help to explain the discrepancies between mRNA and protein expression in the different stages.

Weaknesses:

While this work provides an impressive and foundational dataset, it opens the door for future research to rigorously validate these initial findings and conclusions.

Significance and Impact in the field.

The different datasets generated in this study will be of great interest to the parasitology community, either to be used for hypothesis generation, to validate data from other sources, etc.

The multi-layered analysis performed here identified a series of potential feedback loops and regulatory networks to be further explored in organisms that lack transcriptional control.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

The manuscript by Tassan-Lugrezin et al. confirms the existence of the MICOS complex in the causative agent of malaria Plasmodium falciparum. Prior to this study, only one of the two core MICOS subunits, Mic60, was found by homology search to be encoded in the apicomplexan parasite's genome. This study demonstrates the absence of the other core subunit, Mic10. It also identifies another MICOS subunit, Mic19, which co-migrates with Mic60 in a very large molecular weight complex upon blue native polyacrylamide gel electrophoresis. The authors then demonstrate that expression of both Mic60 and Mic19 is considerably upregulated during the differentiation of P. falciparum from the pathogenic asexual blood stage (ABS) to gametocytes, which correlates with the activation of oxidative phosphorylation during this process. While gene deletion of Mic19, Mic60 and both simultaneously does not affect this transition, the crista are nevertheless deformed. More significantly, crista junctions are significantly reduced, indicating that MICOS serves the same function in apicomplexans as it does in opisthokonts: maintaining crista junctions. Furthermore, the genetic interaction of mic60 and mic19 observed by augmented crista deformation when both are deleted is further evidence of their biochemical interaction, further supporting their similar complexome profiles. This study represents an important contribution to our understanding of MICOS evolution. Furthermore, the study shows that proper cristae formation is not essential for Plasmodium life cycle progression under in vitro conditions. Moreover, mutant gametocytes are still able to mate in the mosquito vector, albeit with lower efficiency.

Strengths:

The study is a result of a lot of technically challenging work in the model Plamsodium. The technically difficult life cycle progression experiments are well performed as far as I can tell. The electron microscopy is very well done and rigorously analyzed to obtain information about crista parameters. In particular, the authors were able to quantify the occurrence and diameter of crista junctions, which is very challenging in small mitochondria with small cristae. Finally, the authors provide convincing support that Mic60 and the newly discovered Mic19 act to shape crista junctions and MICOS can apparently carry out this function without the core subunit Mic10.

Weaknesses:

In its current form, there are conceptual weaknesses. The authors focus on the development of crista from a highly likely acristate state. This is true. But there can be more insight by considering their result in light of discovering the first functioning MICOS complex without one of its two core proteins, Mic10. The surprisingly large size of is also not really considered by the authors. This brings me the second weakness in my opinion. While I think the study represents a lot of work utilizing appropriate and crucial experiments, it seems the Complexome data was not explored enough. This data revealed Mic19, but what other potential subunits are co-migrating with Mic60 and Mic19 that can explain the large size of Plasmodium MICOS? Also, what is the consequence of the loss of Mic60 and Mic19 on the mitoproteome? Perhaps other MICOS subunits can be identified by their depletion in the knockouts versus the parental cell line.

Comments on latest version:

I am reviewing this manuscript again after reviewing it for Reviewers Commons. I appreciate the author's responses to my comments. The new version is improved but, in my opinion, still needs more work.

These revisions are changes to text, interpretations and obtaining more data from existing data or databases. I do still think one experimental control is necessary to substantiate the authors claim about membrane potential.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

This manuscript reports the identification of putative orthologues of mitochondrial contact site and cristae organizing system (MICOS) proteins in Plasmodium falciparum - an organism that unusually shows an acristate mitochondrion during the asexual part of its life cycle and then develops cristae as it enters the sexual stage of its life cycle and beyond into the mosquito. The authors identify PfMIC60 and PfMIC19 as putative members and study these in detail. The authors add HA tags to both proteins and look for timing of expression during the parasite life cycle and attempt (unsuccessfully) to localise them within the parasite - lack of signal concluded to be reflect very low expression levels. They also genetically delete both genes singly and in parallel and phenotype the effect on parasite development. They show that both proteins are expressed in gametocytes and not asexuals, suggesting they are present at the same time as cristae development. They also show that the proteins are dispensable for the entire parasite life cycle investigated (asexuals through to sporozoites), however there is some reduction in mosquito transmission. Using mitotracker labelling, the authors observe differences in mitochondrial organisation in gametocytes compared to the transgenic lines. Further investigation at higher resolution using EM techniques, shows data supporting their hypothesis that PfMIC60 and PfMIC19 are important for organising the parasite mitochondrion.

The manuscript is interesting and is an intriguing use of a well-studied organism of medical importance to answer fundamental biological questions. Given the essentiality of mitochondrial respiration for parasite survival in the mosquito, it is surprising that the single and double knock-out transgenics do not give a severe phenotype. However, the authors have been rigorous in characterizing the impact of genetic deletion of both genes throughout the parasite life cycle. Subtle differences in mitochondrial organisation were observed, consistent with their hypothesis that PfMIC60 and PfMIC19 play roles in mitochondrial organisation. Therefore, these data presented give new insights into an organelle that dramatically changes during parasite development and adds to our knowledge of mitochondrial biology in a highly unusual organism.

Comments on revised version:

I previously reviewed this manuscript for Review Commons. This version is greatly improved and the authors should be commended for addressing all comments raised.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

Summary:

MICOS is a conserved mitochondrial protein complex responsible for organising the mitochondrial inner membrane and the maintenance of cristae junctions. This study sheds first light on the role of two MICOS subunits (Mic60 and the newly annotated Mic19) in the malaria parasite Plasmodium falciparum, which forms cristae de novo during sexual development, as demonstrated by EM of thin section and electron tomography. By generating knockout lines (including a double knockout), the authors demonstrate that knockout of both MICOS subunits leads to defects in cristae morphology and a partial loss of cristae junctions. With a formidable set of parasitological assays, the authors show that despite the metabolically important role of mitochondria for gametocytes, the knockout lines can progress through the life stages and form sporozoites, albeit with diminished infection efficiency.

Major comments (from the previous round of review):

(1) The authors should improve to present their findings in the right context, in particular by:

(i) giving a clearer description in the introduction of what is already known about the role of MICOS. This starts in the introduction, where one main finding is missing: loss of MICOS leads to loss of cristae junctions and the detachment of cristae membranes, which are nevertheless formed, but become membrane vesicles. This needs to be clearly stated in the introduction to allow the reader to understand the consistency of the authors' findings in P. falciparum with previous reports in the literature.

(ii) at the end to the introduction, the motivating hypothesis is formulated ad hoc "conclusive evidence about its involvement in the initial formation of cristae is still lacking" (line 83). If there is evidence in the literature that MICOS is strictly required for cristae formation in any organism, then this should be explained, because the bona fide role of MICOS is maintenance of cristae junctions (the hypothesis is still plausible and its testing important).

(2) Line 96-97: "Interestingly, PfMIC60 is much larger than the human MICOS counterpart, with a large, poorly predicted N-terminal extension." This statement is lacking a reference and presumably refers to annotated ORFs. The authors should clarify if the true N-terminus is definitely known - a 120kDa size is shown for the P. falciparum, but this is not compared to the expected length or the size in S. cerevisiae.

(3) lines 244-245: "Furthermore, our data indicates the effect size increases with simultaneous ablation of both proteins?". The authors should explain which data they are referring to, as some of the data in Figs 3 and 4 look similar and all significance tests relate to the wild type, not between the different mutants, so it is not clear if any overserved differences are significant. The authors repeat this claim in the discussion in lines 368-369 without referring to a specific significance test. This needs to be clarified.

(4) lines 304-306: "Though well established as the cristae organizing system, the role of MICOS in initial formation of cristae remains hidden in model organisms that constitutively display cristae.". This sentence is misleading since even in organisms that display numerous cristae throughout their life cycle, new cristae are being formed as the cells proliferate. Thus, failure to produce cristae in MICOS knockout lines would have been observable but has apparently not been reported in the literature. Thus, the concerted process in P. falciparum makes it a great model organism, but not fundamentally different to what has been studied before in other organisms.

(5) lines 373-378. "where ablation of just MIC60 is sufficient to deplete functionality of the entire MICOS (11, 15),". The authors' claim appears to be contrary to what is actually stated in ref 15, which they cite:

"MICOS subunits have non-redundant functions as the absence of both MICOS subcomplexes results in more severe morphological and respiratory growth defects than deletion of single MICOS subunits or subcomplexes."

This seems in line with what the authors show, rather than "different".

(6) lines 380-385: "... thus suggesting that membrane invaginations still arise but are not properly arranged in these knockout lines. This suggests that MICOS either isn't fully depleted,...". These conclusions are incompatible with findings from ref. 15, which the authors cite. In that study, the authors generated a ∆MICOS line which still forms membrane invaginations, showing that MICOS is not required at all for this process in yeast. Hence the authors' implication that MICOS needs to be fully depleted before membrane invaginations cease to occur is not supported by the literature.

(7) The authors should consider if the first part of their title could be seen as misleading: It suggests that MICOS is "the architect" in cristae formation, but this is not consistent with the literature nor their own findings.

Significance:

The main strength of the study is that it provides the first characterisation of the MICOS complex in P. falciparum, a human parasite in which the mitochondrion has been shown to be a drug target. Mic60 and the newly annotated Mic19 are confirmed to be essential for proper cristae formation and morphology, as well as overall mitochondrial morphology. Furthermore, the mutant lines are characterised for their ability to complete the parasite life cycle and defects in infection effectivity are observed. This work is an important first step for deciphering the role of MICOS in the malaria parasite and the composition and function of this complex in this organism.

The limitation of the study stems from what is already known about MICOS and its subunits in other organisms. MICOS subunit knockouts have been characterised in great detail in yeast and humans with similar findings regarding loss of cristae and cristae defects. The findings of this study do not provide dramatic new insight on MICOS function or go substantially beyond the vast existing literature in terms of the extent of the study, which focuses on parasitological assays and morphological analysis.

Exploring the role of MICOS in an early-divergent organism and human parasite is however important given the divergence found in mitochondrial biology and P. falciparum is a uniquely suited model system. One aspect that would increase the impact of the paper would be if the authors could mechanistically link the observed morphological defects to the decreased infection efficiency, e.g. by probing effects on mitochondrial function. This will likely be challenging as the morphological defects are diverse and the fitness defects appear moderate/mild.

The advance presented in this study is to pioneer the study of MICOS in P. falciparum, thus widening our understanding of the role of this complex to different model organism. This study will likely be mainly of interest for specialised audiences such as basic research parasitologists and mitochondrial biologists. My own field of expertise is mitochondrial biology and structural biology.

Comments on revised version:

The authors have addressed my all of my previous comments in the updated manuscript version.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

In this manuscript, the role of the insulin receptor and the insulin growth factor receptor was investigated in podocytes. Mice, where both receptors were deleted, developed glomerular dysfunction and developed proteinuria and glomerulrosclerosis over several months. Because of concerns about incomplete KO, the authors generated and studied podocyte cell lines where both receptors were deleted. Loss of both receptors was highly deleterious with greater than 50% cell death. To elucidate the mechanism of cell death, the authors performed global proteomics and found that spliceosome proteins were downregulated. They confirmed this directly by using long-read sequencing. These results suggest a novel role for insulin and IGF1R signaling in RNA splicing in podocytes.

This is primarily a descriptive study and no technical concerns are raised. The mechanism of how insulin and IGF1 signaling regulates splicing is not directly addressed but implicates potentially the phosphorylation downstream of these receptors. In the revised manuscript, it is shown that the mouse KO is incomplete potentially explaining the slow onset of renal insufficiency. Direct measurement of GFR and serial serum creatinines might also enhance our understanding of progression of disease, proteinuria is a strong sign of renal injury. An attempt to rescue the phenotype by overexpression of SF3B4 would also be useful but may be masked by defects in other spliceosome genes. As insulin and IGF are regulators of metabolism, some assessment of metabolic parameters would be an optional add-on.

Significance:

With the GLP1 agonists providing renal protection, there is great interest in understanding the role of insulin and other incretins in kidney cell biology. It is already known that Insulin and IGFR signaling play important roles in other cells of the kidney. So, there is great interest in understanding these pathways in podocytes. The major advance is that these two pathways appear to have a role in RNA metabolism.

Latest comments:

The new reviewer raised two major points, whether the KO effect on splicing is specific to IGF1 and whether the interpretation could be developmental rather than due to splicing. The reviewer raises some important issues but the evidence to suggest that this is specific is data in the literature that IR/IGF signaling is already known to regulate splicing and that splicing defects were not detected in other models that they have analyzed. I agree with the reviewer (and authors) that the incomplete floxing of the genes is a major complication. The point that there could be a developmental defect with mice being born with fewer podocytes and perhaps the authors should caveat this point. The fact that they mice are born with normal function, that renal function can be maintained with up to 80% loss of podocytes suggest that they are likely born with a good number of podocytes and the dysfunction that occurs at 6 months is due to a process, induced by the loss of IR/IGF signaling that is detrimental to the podocyte.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

In this manuscript, submitted to Review Commons (journal agnostic), Coward and colleagues report on the role of insulin/IGF axis in podocyte gene transcription. They knocked out both the insulin and IGFR1 mice. Dual KO mice manifested a severe phenotype, with albuminuria, glomerulosclerosis, renal failure and death at 4-24 weeks.

Long read RNA sequencing was used to assess splicing events. Podocyte transcripts manifesting intron retention were identified. Dual knock-out podocytes manifested more transcripts with intron retention (18%) compared wild-type controls (18%), with an overlap between experiments of ~30%.

Transcript productivity was also assessed using FLAIR-mark-intron-retention software. Intron retention w seen in 18% of ciDKO podocyte transcripts compared to 14% of wild-type podocyte transcripts (P=0.004), with an overlap between experiments of ~30% (indicating the variability of results with this method). Interestingly, ciDKO podocytes showed downregulation of proteins involved in spliceosome function and RNA processing, as suggested by LC/MS and confirmed by Western blot.

Pladienolide (a spliceosome inhibitor) was cytotoxic to HeLa cells and to mouse podocytes but no toxicity was seen in murine glomerular endothelial cells.

The manuscript is generally clear and well-written. Mouse work was approved in advance. The four figures are generally well-designed, bars/superimposed dot-plots.

Methods are generally well described.

Comments on previous version:

Coward and colleagues have done an excellent job of responding to all the reviewer comments.

Reviewer #4 (Public review):

Summary and background:

This report entitled "The insulin/IGF axis is critically important (for) controlling gene transcription in the podocyte" from Hurcombe et al is based on a mouse double knockdown of the IR and IGF1R and a parallel cultured mouse podocyte model. Insulin/IGF signaling system in mammals evolved as three gene reduplicated peptides (insulin, IGF-1, and IGF-2) and their two receptors IR and IGF1R that cross-react to variable extents with the peptides, are ubiquitously expressed, and signal through parallel pathways. The major downstream effect of insulin is to regulate glucose uptake and metabolism, while that of the IGF pathways is to regulate growth and cell cycling in part through mTORC1. The GH-IGF-1-IGF1R pathway regulates post-natal growth. IGF-2 signaling is thought to play a major role in regulating intrauterine growth and development, although IGF-2 is also present at high levels in post-natal life. Thus, one would anticipate that reducing IR/IGF1R signaling in any cell would slow growth and cell cycling by reducing growth factor and metabolic mTORC1-mediated and other processes including the splicing of RNA for protein synthesis.

Comments on revised version:

The second sentence of the Summary reads "This study sought to elucidate the compound role of the insulin/IGF1 axis in podocytes using transgenic mice and cell culture models deficient in both receptors." The study design and rationale for the proteosome analysis described is predicated on the finding that podocyte-specific knockdown of the IR/IGF-1R in mice is associated with development of proteinuria and reduced eGFR by 20months of life. Since the IR/IGF-1R are critically required for normal development and growth of all cells and organs, the obvious explanation for the observation would be that the model system results in defective podocyte development and deployment (caused by reduced IR/IGF-1) that, in turn, causes subsequent development of proteinuria and glomerulosclerosis (that may be much less dependent on a normal level of IR/IGF-1R expression). Thus, the experimental design does not allow a distinction between podocyte development and steady state function which are different biologic processes. The data provided does not examine podocyte status immediately after birth to confirm that podocyte number and size and structure is normal in mice that subsequently develop proteinuria and glomerulosclerosis. The response to the reviewer suggests that since this would require additional mice it has not been undertaken in order to reduce animal usage. This is not a valid argument, particularly when the investigators have not even used state-of-the-art methods to measure podocyte number, size and density in adult mice, key parameters that would be required to interpret their data. Counting podocyte nuclear number in glomerular cross-sections is simply an inadequate method, even if it is used and reported in other journals, and particularly where the examples given to justify its use can hardly be viewed as representing first rate science.

If the absence of studies that would answer the above questions, the investigators should add a sentence to the Discussion dealing with study limitations as follows. "The study design does not allow us to determine whether the primary effect of reduced IR/IGF-1R expression on the phenotype is during in utero and post-natal podocyte development and deployment, during periods of rapid growth when IGF-1 levels are highest, in steady state adult podocytes, or under all of the above conditions".

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

Johnston and Smith used linear electrode arrays to record from small populations of neurons in the superior colliculus (SC) of monkeys performing a memory-guided saccade (MGS) task. Dimensionality reduction (PCA) was used to reveal low-dimensional subspaces of population activity reflecting the slow drift of neuronal signals during the delay period across a recording session (similar to what they reported for parts of cortex: Cowley et al., 2020). This SC drift was correlated with a similar slow-drift subspace recorded from the prefrontal cortex, and both slow-drift subspaces tended to be associated with changes in arousal (pupil size). These relationships were driven primarily by neurons in superficial layers of the SC, where saccade sensitivity/selectivity is typically reduced. Accordingly, delay-period modulations of both spiking activity and pupil size were independent of saccade-related activity, which was most prevalent in deeper layers of the SC. The authors suggest that these findings provide evidence of a separation of arousal- and motor-related signals. The analysis techniques expand upon the group's previous work and provides useful insight into the power of large-scale neural recordings paired with dimensionality reduction. This is particularly important with the advent of recording technologies which allow for the measurement of spiking activity across hundreds of neurons simultaneously. Together, these results provide a useful framework for comparing how different populations encode signals related to cognition, arousal, and motor output in potentially different subspaces.

Comments on revised manuscript:

The authors have done a very good job of responding to all of the reviewers' concerns.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

Neurons in motor-related areas have increasingly shown to carry also other, non-motoric signals. This creates a problem of avoidance of interference between the motor and non-motor-related signals. This is a significant problem that likely affects many brain areas. The specific example studied here is interference between saccade-related activity and slow-changing arousal signals in the superior colliculus. The authors identify neuronal activity related to saccades and arousal. Identifying saccade-related activity is straightforward, but arousal-related activity is harder to identify. The authors first identify a potential neuronal correlate of arousal using PCA to identifying a component in the population activity corresponding to slow drift over the recording session. Next, they link this component to arousal by showing that the component is present across different brain areas (SC and PFC), and that it is correlated with pupil size, an external marker of arousal. Having identified an arousal-related component in SC, the authors show next that SC neurons with strong motor-related activity are less strongly affected by this arousal component (both SC and PFC). Lastly, they show that SC population activity pattern related to saccades and pupil size form orthogonal subspaces in the SC population.

Strengths:

A great strength of this research is the clear description of the problem, its relationship with the performed analysis and the interpretation of the results. The paper is very well written and easy to follow.

An additional strength is the use of fairly sophisticated analysis using population activity.

Weaknesses:

(1) The greatest weakness in the present research is the fact that arousal is a functionally less important non-motoric variable. The authors themself introduce the problem with a discussion of attention, which is without any doubt the most important cognitive process that needs to be functionally isolated from oculomotor processes. Given this introduction, one cannot help but wonder, why the authors did not design an experiment, in which spatial attention and oculomotor control are differentiated. Absent such an experiment, the authors should spend more time on explaining the importance of arousal and how it could interfere with oculomotor behavior.

(2) In this context, it is particularly puzzling that one actually would expect effects of arousal on oculomotor behavior. Specifically, saccade reaction time, accuracy, and speed could be influenced by arousal. The authors should include an analysis of such effects. They should also discuss the absence or presence of such effects and how they affect their other results.

(3) The authors use the analysis shown in Figure 6D to argue that across recording sessions the activity components capturing variance in pupil size and saccade tuning are uncorrelated. however, the distribution (green) seems to be non-uniform with a peak at very low and very high correlation, specifically. The authors should test if such an interpretation is correct. If yes, where are the low and high correlations respectively? Are there potentially two functional areas in SC?

Comments on the first revision:

My main concern with the paper is really two-fold. First, I think it is only incremental and adds next to no useful information about the SC. That might not be a fair criticism and certainly is purely subjective, but it affects the standards that eLife has on significance thresholds for papers. As such, this is an issue the editors should talk about.

Second, my main concern with the substance of the paper is that the authors jump immediately into an analysis of the 'arousal-related' effects on SC activity. Before that, I would like to see some behavioral indicators of arousal, such as RT differences, pupil size (the talk about this), or accuracy. The authors first need to describe the objective behavioral indicators of the level of arousal. Using these indices, they need to establish that there are meaningful differences in the level of arousal across the recording session. Having done so, they can proceed to link changes in SC activity with levels of arousal.

Instead, in its current form, the authors find changes in SC activity and describe them immediately as 'arousal-related'. I hope it is clear why that is premature. The 'slow-drift' fluctuations are presumed to be related to arousal, but they could be meaningless random fluctuations, or related to some other cognitive process.

Other than this conceptual issue, I do not have major problems with the analysis per se.

Comments on the latest version:

They have constructively responded to my concerns. I think 'incomplete' should be replaced with 'solidly supported'.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

Summary:

This study looked at slow changes in neuronal activity (on the order of minutes to hours) in the superior colliculus (SC) and prefrontal cortex (PFC) of two monkeys. They found that SC activity shows slow drift in neuronal activity like in the cortex. They then computed a motor index in SC neurons. By definition, this index is low if the neuron has stronger visual responses than motor response, and it is high if the neuron has weaker visual responses and stronger motor responses. The authors found that the slow drift in neuronal activity was more prevalent in the low motor index SC neurons and less prevalent in the high motor index neurons. In addition, the authors measured pupil diameter and found it to correlate with slow drifts in neuronal activity, but only in the neurons with lower motor index of the SC. They concluded that arousal signals affecting slow drifts in neuronal modulations are brain-wide. They also concluded that these signals are not present in the deepest SC layers, and they interpreted this to mean that this minimizes the impact of arousal on unwanted eye movements.

Strengths:

The paper is clear and well-written.

Showing slow drifts in the SC activity is important to demonstrate that cortical slow drifts could be brain-wide.

Weaknesses:

The authors find that the SC cells with the low motor index are modulated by pupil diameter. However, this could be independent of an "arousal signal". These cells have substantial visual sensitivity. If the pupil diameter changes, then their activity should be influenced since the monkey is watching a luminous display. So, in this regard, the fact that they do not see "an arousal signal" in the most motor neurons (through the pupil diameter analyses) is not evidence that the arousal signal is filtered out from the motor neurons. It could simply be that these neurons simply do not get affected by the pupil diameter because they do not have visual sensitivity.

Comments on revisions:

The authors have given due consideration to the possibility that SC signaling of arousal could be at least in part due to changes in pupil size related responses to ambient light. Discussion of this point in the most recent revision helps to mitigate this concern.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

[Editors' note: this version has been assessed by the Reviewing Editor without further input from the original reviewers. The authors have addressed the weaknesses noted above, which were raised in the previous round of review.]

Summary:

The manuscript investigates how exogenous attention modulates spatial frequency sensitivity within the foveola. Using high-precision eye-tracking and gaze-contingent stimulus control, the authors show that exogenous attention selectively improves contrast sensitivity for low- to mid-range spatial frequencies (4-8 cycles/degree), but not for higher frequencies (12-20 CPD). In contrast, improvements in asymptotic performance at the highest contrast levels occur across all spatial frequencies. These results suggest that, even within the foveola, exogenous attention operates through a mechanism similar to that observed in peripheral vision, preferentially enhancing lower spatial frequencies.

Strengths:

The study shows strong methodological rigor. Eye position was carefully controlled, and the stimulus generation and calibration were highly precise. The authors also situate their work well within the existing literature, providing a clear rationale for examining the fine-grained effects of exogenous attention within the foveola. The combination of high spatial precision, gaze-contingent presentation, and detailed modeling makes this a valuable technical contribution.

Weaknesses:

The manipulation of attention raises some interpretive concerns. Clarifying this issue, together with additional detail about statistics, participant profiles, other methodological elements, and further discussion in relation to oculomotor control in general, could broaden the impact of the findings.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

This study aims to test whether foveal and non-foveal vision share the same mechanisms for endogenous attention. Specifically, they aim to test whether they can replicate at the foveola previous results regarding the effects of exogenous attention for different spatial frequencies.

Strengths:

Monitoring the exact place where the gaze is located at this scale requires very precise eye-tracking methods and accurate and stable calibration. This study uses state-of-the-art methods to achieve this goal. The study builds on many other studies that show similarities between foveal vision and non-foveal vision, adding more data supporting this parallel.

Weaknesses:

The study lacks a discussion of the strength of the effect and how it relates to previous studies done away from the fovea. It would be valuable to know if not just the range of frequencies, but the size of the effect is also comparable.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

Summary:

This paper explores how spatial attention affects foveal information processing across different spatial frequencies. The results indicate that exogenously directed attention enhances contrast sensitivity for low- to mid-range spatial frequencies (4-8 CPD), with no significant benefits for higher spatial frequencies (12-20 CPD). However, asymptotic performance increased as a result of spatial attention independently of spatial frequency.

Strengths:

The strengths of this article lie in its methodological approach, which combines a psychophysical experiment with precise control over the information presented in the foveola.

Weaknesses:

The authors acknowledge that they used the standard approach of analyzing observer-averaged data, but recognize that this method has limitations: it ignores the uncertainty associated with parameter estimates and the relationships between different parameters of the psychometric model. This may affect the interpretation of attentional effects. In the future, mixed-effects models at the trial level could overcome these limitations.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

In this manuscript, Emperador-Melero et al. seek to determine whether recruitment of endocytic machinery to the periactive zone is activity-dependent or tethered to delivery of active zone machinery. They use genetic knockouts and pharmacological block in two model synapses - cultured mouse hippocampal neurons and Drosophila neuromuscular junctions - to determine how well endocytic machinery localizes after chronic inhibition or acute depolarization by super-resolution imaging. They find acute depolarization in both models have minimal to no effect on the localization of endocytic machinery at the periactive zone, suggesting that these proteins are constitutively maintained rather than upregulated in response to evoked activity. Interestingly, chronic inhibition slightly increases endocytic machinery levels, implying a potential homeostatic upregulation in preparation for rebound depolarization. Using genetic knockouts, the authors show that localization of endocytic machinery to periactive zones occurs independently of proper active zone assembly, even in the absence of upstream organizers like Liprin-α.

Overall, they propose that the constitutive deployment of endocytic machinery reflects its critical role in facilitating rapid and reliable membrane internalization during synaptic functions beyond classical endocytosis, such as regulation of the exocytic fusion pore and dense-core vesicle fusion. Although many experiments reveal limited changes in the localization or abundance of endocytic machinery, the findings are thorough, and data substantially supports a model in which endocytic components are organized through a pathway distinct from that of the active zone. This work advances our understanding of synaptic dynamics by supporting a model in which endocytic machinery is constitutively recruited and regulated by distinct upstream organizers compared to active zone proteins. It also highlights the utility of super-resolution imaging across diverse synapse types to uncover functionally conserved elements of synaptic biology.

Strengths:

The study's technical strengths, particularly the use of super-resolution microscopy and rigorous image analyses developed by the group, bolster their findings.

Weaknesses:

One limitation, acknowledged by the authors, is the persistence of spontaneous activity at these synapses, which could still impact the organization of these regions.

Comments on revisions:

The authors have addressed all of my previous comments.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

This study examines whether the localization of endocytic proteins to presynaptic periactive zones depends on synaptic activity or active zone scaffolds. Using genetic and pharmacological perturbations in both Drosophila and mouse neurons, the authors show that key endocytic proteins remain localized to periactive zones even when evoked release or active zone architecture is disrupted. While the findings are largely negative, the study is methodologically solid and provides useful constraints for current models of synaptic vesicle recycling.

Strengths:

The experimental design is careful and systematic, spanning both fly and mammalian systems. The use of advanced genetic models, including Liprin-α quadruple knockout mice, is a notable strength. High-resolution imaging approaches (STED, Airyscan) are appropriately applied to assess nanoscale organization. The study clarifies that strict activity dependence of endocytic recruitment may not be a general principle.

Weaknesses (largely addressed in revision):

Several initial concerns have been satisfactorily addressed in the revised manuscript. In particular, the inclusion of EndoA/Dap160 experiments and the expanded discussion improve the work. Some limitations remain, including the reliance on Tetanus toxin at the Drosophila NMJ, which does not fully abolish presynaptic fusion, and the still limited insight into the mechanistic basis of periactive zone organization. The biological interpretation of small changes in protein levels upon silencing also remains somewhat unclear.

Comments on revisions:

I thank the authors for the careful revision of the manuscript. The additional experiments, in particular the inclusion of EndoA and Dap160 at the Drosophila NMJ, as well as the extended discussion of limitations, are appreciated and address important points raised in the first round.

While the principal conclusions of the study remain unchanged, and the manuscript is still largely based on negative results, I find that the authors now present these data in a more balanced and transparent manner. The discussion of activity-dependence is improved and more nuanced, especially with regard to possible contributions of spontaneous release and homeostatic effects.

In my opinion, despite the mostly negative nature of the findings, the work provides a valuable and relevant contribution, as it defines important constraints on current models of periactive zone organization. The study is technically strong, carefully executed, and systematically performed across different model systems.

Overall, the revised manuscript is clearly improved and represents a solid and well-executed piece of work that will be of interest to the field.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

Summary:

This study examines how synaptic endocytic zones are positioned using a combination of cultured neurons and the Drosophila neuromuscular junction. The authors test whether neuronal activity, active zone assembly, or liprin-α function is required to localize endocytic zone markers, including Dynamin, Amphiphysin, Nervous Wreck, PIPK1γ, and AP-180. None of the manipulations tested caused a coordinated disruption in the localization or abundance of these markers, leading to the conclusion that endocytic zones form independently of synaptic activity and active zone scaffolds.

Strengths:

The work is systematic and carefully executed, using multiple manipulations and two complementary model systems. The authors consistently examine multiple molecular markers, strengthening the interpretation that endocytic zone positioning is robust to changes in activity and structural assembly.

Weaknesses:

The main limitation is that the study does not test whether the methods used are sensitive enough to detect subtle functional disruption, and no condition tested produces clear disorganization of the endocytic zone. As a result, the conclusion that these zones assemble independently is supported by negative data, without a strong positive control for disassembly or mislocalization.

This paper addresses a longstanding question in synaptic biology and provides a well-supported boundary on the types of mechanisms that are likely to govern endocytic zone localization. The conclusions are well justified by the data, though additional evidence would be needed to define the assembly mechanism itself.

Comments on revisions:

The authors responded to the initial review with care. They both revised the manuscript and conducted new experiments to address each reviewer's concern. The responses to the review were effective, and I think that the revised manuscript provides significant new insights. In my view, it does not require additional revisions.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

In their manuscript entitled "Terminal tracheal cells of Drosophila are immune privileged to maintain their Foxo-dependent structural plasticity", Bossen and colleagues determine that the terminal cells of the tracheal system differ from other larval tracheal cells in that they do not typically show an Imd-dependent immune response to fungal and viral infections. Authors reach this conclusion based on the expression of a reporter line, Drs-GFP. The authors speculate that this difference may reflect differential expression of an immune pathway component, as tracheal terminal cells (ttcs) do not respond to forced expression of PRGP-LS. The authors then go on to show that, unlike the other cells of the tracheal system, terminal cells do not express PGRP-LC as reported by a GAL4 enhancer trap. Forced expression of PGRP-LC in terminal cells resulted in reduced branching, cell damage and features of the cell death program. These effects could be suppressed by depletion of AP-1 or Foxo transcription factors. Authors show that Foxo plays a negative role in branching of ttcs, with ectopic branching occurring upon RNAi (or under hypoxic conditions). The authors speculate that immune privilege of the ttcs may have evolved to permit Foxo regulation of ttc branching.

Strengths:

The authors provide compelling genetic data that support their overall conclusions.

Weaknesses:

FC do not appear to express DRS reporter in Figure 1 or elsewhere, raising the question of whether fusion cells are also immune privileged.<br /> Fig 5, TRE_RFP expression, is convincing in wt ttc, but not in ttc o/x PGRP-LCx

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

In this study, Bossen et al. looked at the immune status of the tracheal terminal cells (TTCs) in Drosophila larvae. The authors propose that these cells do show PGFP-LCx expression and, hence, lack immune function. Artificial overexpression of the PGRP-LCx in the TTCs causes these cells to undergo apoptosis.

Strengths:

Only a few groups have tried to look at the immune status of the trachea, though we know that AMPs are expressed there after infection. This exciting study attempts to understand the differences in the tracheal cells that do not produce AMPs upon infection.

Weaknesses:

The reason why the TTCs have some immune privilege still needs to be completely clear. Whether the phenotype is cell autonomous or contributes to the cellular immune system is not evaluated. As we know, crystal cells also maintain oxygen levels in larvae; whether in the absence of a terminal trachea, the crystal cells have any role is not explored.

My particular comments on the figures are as follows:

(1) In Figure 2, the PGRP-LCx signal should be quantified as done for Drosomycin GFP, as shown in Figure 1.<br /> - The authors have now done this.

(2) In Fig 2F and G are the larvae infected? If not, what happens to PGRP-LCx expression post Ecc15 infection?<br /> - The authors have answered this question, saying infection has no effect on TTCs' Dr-GFP expression.

(3) Is the effect of overexpression of LCx exaggerated post-infection? In particular, when it comes to the escape phenotype.<br /> - This was not done; the infection experiment was done with PGRP-LE overexpression.

(4) Does overexpression of anti-apoptotic genes in TTC and PGRP-LCx rescue the TTC branching?<br /> - This was not done.

(5) Have the authors tried to rescue the larvae with shallow food?<br /> - This was not done.

(6) Is there any effect on the circulating hemocytes or lymph gland in the PGFRP-LCx overexpressing animals?<br /> - This was not done.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

Summary:

The authors report that tracheal terminal cells (TTCs) in Drosophila do not activate innate immunity following bacterial infection, and attribute this to the absence of PGRP-LCx expression in these cells. Forced activation of the Imd pathway in TTCs leads to JNK-mediated cell death and reduced tracheal branching. The authors propose that this immune-privileged status preserves Foxo-dependent structural plasticity, which is essential for TTCs to respond to changing environmental conditions such as hypoxia.

Strengths:

The revised manuscript represents a meaningful improvement over the initial submission. The addition of multiple antimicrobial peptide reporters substantially strengthens the key observation that TTCs do not mount a humoral immune response upon infection, moving beyond reliance on the Drs-GFP reporter alone. The mechanistic dissection of the cell death pathway - demonstrating roles for JNK, AP-1, and Foxo downstream of ectopic PGRP-LCx activation - is well-executed and provides solid mechanistic insight. The inclusion of a second, independent UAS-PGRP-LCx line with a milder phenotype adds useful calibration. The hypoxia sensitivity assays provide physiological context, and the discussion of the gradient hypothesis, while based on qualitative observation, is logically reasoned and addresses a legitimate alternative interpretation.

Weaknesses:

The primary remaining concern is that the absence of PGRP-LCx expression in TTCs is supported by a single GAL4 enhancer trap line, without independent validation by complementary methods such as in situ hybridization, antibody staining, or reanalysis of publicly available single-cell transcriptomic data. The authors acknowledge this limitation transparently. While the convergent evidence from infection experiments - in which neither the Drs-GFP reporter nor the PGRP-LCx-Gal4 line shows TTC activation - lends indirect support, orthogonal confirmation would more definitively establish this mechanistic claim.

Additionally, the finding that Dcp-1 cleavage occurs in non-TTC tracheal cells as well suggests that Imd-mediated apoptotic signaling is not uniquely restricted to TTCs, and the Discussion could more explicitly address what distinguishes the TTC response in terms of degree or cellular context.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

Agarwal et al identified the small molecule semapimod from a chemical screen of repurposed drugs with specific antimycobacterial activity against a leucine-dependent strain of M. tuberculosis. To better understand the mechanism of action of this repurposed anti-inflammatory drug, the authors used RNA-seq to reveal a leucine-deficient transcriptomic signature from semapimod challenge. The authors then measured a decreased intracellular concentration of leucine after semapimod challenge, suggesting that semapimod disrupts leucine uptake as the primary mechanism of action. Unexpectedly however, resistant mutants raised against semapimod had a mutation in the polyketide synthase gene ppsB that resulted in loss of PDIM synthesis. The authors believe growth inhibition is a consequence of decreased accumulation of leucine as a result of an impaired cell wall and a disrupted, unknown leucine transporter. This study highlights the importance of branched-chain amino acids for M. tuberculosis survival and the chemical genetic interactions between semapimod and ppsB indicate that ppsB is a conditionally essential gene in a medium deplete of leucine.

The conclusions regarding the leucine and PDIM phenotypes are moderately supported by experimental data. The authors do not provide experimental evidence to support a specific link between leucine uptake and impaired PDIM production. Additional work is needed to support these claims and strengthen this mechanism of action.

A mechanistic gap still exists for the model of semapimod antitubercular activity. The basis for semapimod activity is that the leucine auxotroph strain cannot acquire leucine from its environment, and thus the bug ceases to grow. Under normal growth conditions, the leucine auxotroph strain produces PDIM and acquires exogenous leucine through some mechanism (either through a transporter or through PDIM). Semapimod binding to PpsB causes the cell to alter its PDIM profile (lacking experimental for this), and now with the altered PDIM profile the cell cannot acquire enough exogenous leucine to sustain growth (either because the altered PDIM profile interferes with the leucine transporter activity or through PDIM uptake). Acquiring a mutation in ppsB results in cells unable to produce PDIM (some evidence supporting this) but can now acquire enough exogenous leucine to sustain growth. I cannot find the connection between cells that have normal PDIM with normal leucine uptake and cells that are missing PDIM with normal leucine uptake.

(1) The manuscript would benefit from adding additional antibiotic controls to experiments. With the current experimental approaches, it is unclear if these signatures are the result of semapimod specifically or the effect of an antimicrobial agent. Adding additional strains to the 2D TLC experiments could provide more confidence in the absence or modifications of the PDIM band.

(2) The intriguing observation that wild-type H37Rv is resistant to semapimod but the leucine-auxotroph is sensitive should be further explored. If the authors are correct and semapimod does inhibit leucine uptake through a specific transporter or modified PDIM profiles, testing semapimod activity against the leucine-auxotroph in various concentrations of BCAAs could highlight the importance of intracellular leucine. Cells might recover growth in the presence of semapimod treatment if enough leucine is provided in the media and some fraction is able to enter the cell through the impaired PDIM barrier.

Reviewer #4 (Public review):

Summary:

In this study, the authors screened an FDA-approved repurposed library of small-molecule inhibitors against the auxotrophic strain Mtb mc2 6206 and found that semapimod exclusively inhibited its growth. Further studies showed that it inhibits L-leucine uptake by interacting with PpsB, although the exact mechanism remains unknown. Interestingly, semapimod showed antibacterial activity against H37Rv only in vivo, not in vitro, suggesting a dependence on host-derived exogenous leucine during intracellular growth. This work therefore suggests that uptake of host-derived leucine can be targeted as an effective strategy to reduce intracellular survival of Mtb.

Strengths:

The authors have used different approaches to understand the mechanism of L-leucine uptake in Mtb. To start, they conducted an in vitro screen using an FDA-approved library, followed by transcriptomic and metabolic analyses of different Mtb mutants. Through whole-genome sequencing, they identified mutations conferring resistance to semapimod to gain further mechanistic understanding. This led to the analysis of semapimod-PpsB interaction by BLI-Octet and analysis of cell-wall apolar lipid, which explained how PDIM loss resulted in sensitivity to vancomycin. Finally, infection experiments in mice surprisingly showed that semapimod was effective against intracellular Mtb in vivo but not in vitro.

Weakness:

The major weakness of this study is that it is unclear what role PpsB plays in L-leucine uptake. It is also not clear why intracellular Mtb relies on exogenous leucine rather than endogenous leucine. Does intracellular Mtb lose its ability to synthesize leucine, which is why semapimod is active in vivo but not in vitro? Or semapimod has any other effect on host immunity that has not been explored. I have a few minor comments, which are as follows:

(1) Authors state that "The colony forming unit (CFU) estimation further shows a bactericidal activity of this molecule which causes 88% reduction of bacterial viability on day 2 and >99% reduction after 5 days of incubation" (Fig. 1d). However, this is only true when compared to the untreated control. Compared to the Day 0 control, treated bacteria appear to have undergone little or no change, suggesting that the compound is bacteriostatic, not bactericidal. The drug concentration used for Fig 1d is not mentioned. For Fig. 1e, there is no day 0 control, and the comparison is with the untreated control at Day 6, which again does not suggest bactericidal action of Semapimod.

(2) The authors report that "Notably, no cytotoxic effect was observed at this concentration against THP1, thus ruling out the possibility of cell lysis by semapimod," but the data are not shown. Similarly, authors state that "As a control, interaction of semapimod was also analyzed with the purified Ppe60, which fails to exhibit any binding," but the data is not shown.

(3) Line 235: change "promote" to "promoter".

Reviewer #5 (Public review):

Summary:

The authors have extensively characterized the response of the leucine and pantothenate auxotroph Mtb strain H37Rv mc26 206 to an FDA-approved compound library and identified semapimod that is, at best, bacteriostatic in its action against the pathogen. The authors have used transcriptional profiling, metabolite quantification and a screening of genetically-resistant mutants to identify changes in leucine uptake under semapimod exposure. Based on these data, the authors attribute changes in antibiotic susceptibility to differences in environmental leucine availability and bacterial PDIM architecture. While the work presents an interesting avenue of investigation of metabolite uptake and utilization in a comparative fashion between fully virulent and auxotroph Mtb strains, it lacks clear and direct evidence to link the observations with a mechanistic explanation.

Strengths:

The authors used a well-designed screening strategy for FDA-approved compounds against a metabolically defined strain and follow up characterization of semapimod exposure through RNA-seq and pathway analysis, metabolomics and time-course analysis of drug effects. The data has been interestingly interpreted to identify a phenotypic connection between PDIM and altered drug susceptibility.

Weaknesses:

The major gap in the study is the speculative nature of the mechanism underpinning the connection between PDIM architecture and changes in leucine uptake under various bacterial growth conditions.

(1) Despite claims of identifying a "novel leucine uptake mechanism", the authors only provide endpoint metabolite measurements rather than kinetic leucine transport studies.

(2) A clear explanation for the differences in susceptibility between auxotroph and fully virulent Mtb strains through changes in "PDIM architecture" is not supported by any direct evidence such as structural analysis, lipidomics, or direct measurement of PDIM architectural changes.

(3) The figures 1D (lines 110-112, "kills bacteria") and 7c (lines 283-285) are used to infer a bactericidal role of semapimod, which maybe a mischaracterization of drug activity. The trend in CFUs in both cases seems of no bacterial growth rather than a CFU reduction- therefore interpreted as "bacteriostatic" at best. These observations would in fact align with the general antibiotic/stress response signature identified by RNA-seq, where leucine transport related genes only happen to be a small subset of many dysregulated genes. How do the authors disentangle these generic signatures from the leucine transport evidence, other than endpoint metabolite quantification?

(4) Furthermore, the studies with supplementation of leuCD (and not panCD) in rescuing from semapimod susceptibility are not supported by a clear mechanistic link. The complementation of leuCD does not completely rescue growth- does this indicate differences in uptake and metabolism? The authors should test this by monitroing the growth of the strains in minimal medium in presence and absence of exogenous leucine.

(5) It remains unclear if the authors attribute leucine uptake differences to a loss of PDIM or changes in PDIM amount and architecture. No direct evidence is provided for differences in PDIM production in the WT H37Rv strain and the auxotroph mc2 6206 strains used in this study. Mulholland et al (2024) report similar PDIM levels for WT and auxotrophic Mtb (mc2 6206) in their stocks passaged to maintain PDIM. This could change for stocks maintained differently. Since the presence of PDIM has classically been used to explain a penetration barrier for small molecules and the schematic provided by the authors at the end of the manuscript (figure 8c) suggest free leucine penetration in the absence of PDIM, how do the authors explain the increased leucine uptake and sensitivity of a PDIM positive auxotroph to semapimod through direct experimental evidence? Further on the point of PDIM production, the WT auxotroph strain seems to produce limited amounts of PDIM as evidenced by the TLC data in Figure 6b. To solidify this point, the authors should test other point mutants for PDIM production (not attenuated for growth) through TLC and quantify these differences. These data should be compared with PDIM production in the WT Mtb H37Rv strain (used by the authors) under in vitro growth conditions. A comparative lipidomics of cell envelope components might be insightful in explaining these differences. I believe answering this query is crucial and within the scope of the work whose central claim is the identification of a novel leucine uptake mechanism. It would be interesting, in fact, to identify a novel transporter associated with the PDIM layer on the cell envelope.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

The manuscript by Rayan et al. aims to elucidate the role of RNA as a context-dependent modulator of liquid-liquid phase separation (LLPS), aggregation, and bioactivity of the amyloidogenic peptides PSMα3 and LL-37, motivated by their structural and functional similarities.

Strengths:

The authors combine extensive biophysical characterization with cell-based assays to investigate how RNA differentially regulates peptide aggregation states and associated cytotoxic and antimicrobial functions.

Weaknesses:

While the study addresses an interesting and timely question with potentially broad implications for host-pathogen interactions and amyloid biology, some aspects of the experimental design and data analysis require further clarification and strengthening.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

In this paper, Rayan et al. report that RNA influences cytotoxic activity of the staphylococcal secreted peptide cytolysin PSMalpha3 versus human cells and E. coli by impacting its aggregation. The authors used sophisticated methods of structural analysis and describe the associated liquid-liquid phase separation. They also compare to the influence of RNA on aggregation and activity of LL-37, which shows differences to that on PSMalpha3.

That RNA impacts PSM cytotoxicity when co-incubated in vitro becomes clear. However, I have two major problems with this study:

(1) The premise, as stated in the introduction and elsewhere, that PSMalpha3 amyloids are biologically functional, is highly debatable and has never been conclusively substantiated. The property that matters most for the present study, cytotoxicity, is generally attributed to PSM monomers, not amyloids. The likely erroneous notion that PSM amyloids are the predominant cytotoxic form is derived from an earlier study by the authors that has described a specific amyloid structure of aggregated PSMalpha3. Other authors have later produced evidence that, quite unsurprisingly, indicated that aggregation into amyloids decreases, rather than increases, PSM cytotoxicity. Unfortunately, yet other groups have in the meantime published in-vitro studies on "functional amyloids" by PSMs without critically challenging the concept of PSM amyloid "functionality". Of note, the authors' own data in the present study that show strongly decreased cytotoxicity of PSMalpha3 after prolonged incubation are in agreement with monomer-associated cytotoxicity as they can be easily explained by the removal of biologically active monomers from the solution.

In their revision and in the rebuttal, the authors have further described their concept regarding what they call "functionality" of PSMalpha3 amyloids. They now admit that monomers are the active cytolytic form, like other researchers have stressed, whereas amyloids are not. This represents a considerable difference to earlier papers in which they ascribed functionality, i.e. cytolytic capacity, to PSMalpha3 amyloids, a claim that has raised considerable controversy. Now, they use the term "functional " to describe that PSMalpha3 amyloids, while not cytolytic, can be reversed to a cytolytic monomeric state, calling them a "dynamic reservoir". There is no evidence that such a reservoir is necessary for the cytolytic activity of the monomers to be established; also, there is no evidence that in a biological system, such an amyloid reservoir exists. To continue calling PSMalpha3 amyloids "functional" based on this - considerably changed - concept of the authors appears inappropriate, given the finally admitted absence of cytolytic activity of the PSM amyloids in addition to the continuing complete lack of evidence of any biological relevance of PSM amyloid formation.

(2) That RNA may interfere with PSM aggregation and influence activity is not very surprising, given that PSM attachment to nucleic acids - while not studied in as much detail as here - has been described. Importantly, it does not become clear whether this effect has biologically significant consequences beyond influencing, again not surprisingly, cytotoxicity in vitro. The authors do show in nice microscopic analyses that labeled PSMalpha3 attaches to nuclei when incubated with HeLa cells. However, given that the cells are killed rapidly by membrane perturbation by the applied PSM concentrations, it remains unclear and untested whether the attachment to nucleic acids in dying cells makes any contribution to PSM-induced cell death or has any other biological significance.

Overall, the findings can be explained in a much more straightforward way with the common concept of cytotoxicity being due to monomeric PSMs, and the impact of nucleic acids on cytotoxicity being due to lowering of the concentration of that active form by RNA attachment. Further limiting the significance of the findings, whether this interaction has any biological significance on the physiology or infectivity of the PSM producer remains largely unexplored.

Further remarks:

• Circumstantial evidence based on the "amyloid inhibitor", EGCG: The results with EGCG, which has been shown to have a moderate amyloid-reducing effect on PSMalpha 1 and PSMalpha4, should not be taken as evidence for amyloid-based cytotoxicity. While increased concentrations of EGCG reduced the cytotoxic effect of PSMalpha3, it is not convincingly shown that this is due to a lower concentration of amyloid vs. monomeric PSM.

• It is appreciated that the authors refrain from presenting the unsubstantiated concept of "functional" PSM amyloids in the discussion. However, wording in that direction must also be removed from other parts of the manuscript (e.g. "bioactive fibrillar polymorphs". "The formation of cross-alpha amyloids has been correlated with toxic activity", etc.), generally refraining from uncritically implying that amyloid formation underlies PSM biological activity, and rather discussing that the much more likely explanation of the findings is a lowering of cytolytically active, monomeric PSM concentration.

• Discussion: "PSM alpha3 interaction with nucleic acids within human cells ...supports a comparable mechanism...". Delete. Unsubstantiated.

• The authors should cite papers that have argued against their hypothesis and not only their own manuscripts.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

This study presents a detailed single-cell transcriptomic analysis of the post-natal development of mouse anterior chamber tissues. The dataset is robust, consisting of ~130,000 cells collected across seven time points from early post-natal development to adult. Analysis focused on the development of cells that comprise Schlemm's Canal (SC) and trabecular meshwork (TM).

Comments on revisions:

My critiques have been adequately addressed.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

The authors show that if they generate a weighted multi-conformer ensemble of structural models to fit crystallographic electron density data, the application of statistical mechanical methodologies to that ensemble can provide reasonable estimates of configurational entropy terms related to protein-ligand binding.

Strengths:

A fair range of proteins (12) and ligands (70) is included in the study. The analytical methodologies are well described. Both successful and less successful analytical approaches are discussed, and the latter are frequently as insightful as the former.

Weaknesses:

Compared to the universe of protein-ligand complexes, this dataset is inevitably very limited, so the generality of the observations made here remains speculative. Though a fair range of proteins is studied, the dynamic range in the binding affinity data is limited. The practical utility of the approach is never really commented on.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

The manuscript by Miller and Wankowicz (M&W) develops a crystallographic approach to predict the contribution of protein conformational entropy to the total binding entropy using multi-conformer ensemble models. The approach loosely follows the path developed by Wand using NMR relaxation methods. Their approach is to generate local crystallographic order parameters (analogous to NMR order parameters) to estimate protein conformational entropy and then combine this with statements about water entropy. The static view of the ensemble is perhaps easier to grasp, with respect to entropy, than the NMR-based dynamical view. This approach is potentially ground-breaking and of great importance given the ease, relative to NMR, with which the source data can be obtained. However, the approach has several deficiencies, only some of which are noted by the authors.

Like the initial Wand approach (Frederick et al Nature, 2007), M&W develop a simple counting relationship between members of the ensemble and a statement about conformational entropy. For reasons that are not clear, M&W utilize "per residue" scaling, which was initially introduced by Wand but later discarded for the more physically meaningful "per torsion angle" scaling. As noted in the Nature 2007 paper, this assumes uncorrelated occupancy. The current Wand approach (Caro et al PNAS, 2017) subsumes correlated occupancy and potentially incomplete sampling of the ensemble into an empirically determined scaling parameter (sd). This is likely a major contributor to the mysterious 1/4 scaling factor that is introduced. It is not clear to me how discrete conformational states are counted from the qFit models. Using the B-factor, as opposed to a thermal factor, to account for motion in a rotamer well seems suspect. With some irony, M&W only look at chi-1 rotamers in distinct contrast to the NMR approach, which looks at the end of the side chain, which captures the entire disorder. On the other hand, the crystallographic approach "sees" all side chains, whereas the NMR approach, as currently rendered, looks only at methyl-bearing side chains and requires coupling to neighbors to report on all side chains (see Kasinath JACS 2013 and Wand & Sharp ARB 2018).

Nevertheless, as noted by Nature 2007, the fact that a linear relationship is seen between the apparent conformational entropy and total binding entropy suggests that the former is a major component of the latter. It also reinforces the idea that dSrt is constant for higher affinity complexes, i.e., residual rigid-body motion of protein relative to ligand is limited (a conclusion reached in PNAS 2017) but not mentioned. This is an important result.

The classic hydrophobic effect is potentially a significant component of total binding entropy. Here, the manuscript falls flat by focusing on crystallographically resolved waters. As shown in site-resolved detail (Nucci et al, NSMB 2011 and others), hydration water has a range of residual motion (entropy) that will modulate contributions to water entropy upon displacement from an interface. A very clear example of the potential for large contributions was demonstrated in the wet interface of a barnase-DNA complex (PNAS 2017). The fact that the classic dASA treatment failed, I think, points to problems elsewhere in the approach.

I note that the range of ligand types explored by M&W is quite limited as compared to PNAS 2017, making generalization somewhat difficult (see Wand Cur. Opin. Struct. Biol, 2013 for why this is important). Finally, it is disappointing that the authors chose not to examine systems common to PNAS 2017, making direct comparison to the NMR method impossible.

In summary, this manuscript sets the field in a new direction. It is a first serious look at conformational entropy using crystallographic approaches. If fully validated, this approach would permit an explosion of insight since the crystallography is now straightforward, very fast and capable of approaching larger systems, relative to the NMR approach. However, there are missing quantitative elements represented by a formal relationship that is fitted by the data. I do not think this is a fatal flaw for this manuscript, however. If the supplementary material is improved for clarity and completeness (e.g, include tables of thermodynamic data; conformer analysis; B-factors) such that all figures could be independently reproduced and therefore analyzed in different ways, and the comments made above are addressed, if not resolved, then I think this manuscript could become a keystone for this new direction.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Matsumoto et al. identify Com2, a C2H2-type zinc finger transcription factor not previously linked to sphingolipid metabolism, as a regulator of this pathway in budding yeast. They show that depletion of sphingolipids by myriocin, an inhibitor of serine palmitoyl transferase, increases Com2 expression. This, in turn, promotes the expression of the protein kinase Ypk1 and enhances TORC2-dependent phosphorylation of Ypk1. The authors identify a Com2-binding site in the YPK1 promoter and provide evidence that Com2 functions upstream of Ypk1 to regulate its<br /> expression. They further report that Com2 abundance is controlled by the ubiquitin-proteasome system: degradation of Com2 is inhibited by myriocin treatment and enhanced by phytosphingosine. Mutational analyses of putative phosphorylation and ubiquitination sites support a role for these modifications in regulating Com2 stability. Based on these findings, the authors propose that Com2 acts as a transcriptional regulator of sphingolipid metabolism that responds to sphingolipid levels and promotes Ypk1 expression.

Strengths:

This study provides a valuable finding on the regulation of sphingolipid synthesis by the transcription factor Com2 in budding yeast. The evidence supporting the authors' claims is solid, although additional evidence clarifying the mechanisms and biological significance of ubiquitin-proteasome-mediated degradation of Com2 would strengthen the work. This work will be of interest to microbiologists studying budding yeast.

Weaknesses:

The biological significance of Com2 degradation is not sufficiently clear, which represents an important limitation of the study. It would also be important to determine whether Com2 is actively degraded under normal growth conditions, such as during logarithmic growth in the absence of drug treatment.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

In this study, Matsumoto and co-workers use budding yeast as a model organism to identify and characterize transcriptional mechanisms that homeostatically regulate sphingolipid metabolism. Through a genetic suppressor screen and a series of genetic, molecular, and biochemical analyses, they identify the transcription factor Com2 as a key regulator that responds to sphingolipid levels and regulates the expression of genes such as YPK1, which in turn controls the activity of several enzymes in the yeast sphingolipid biosynthetic pathway.

Com2 itself is further regulated by the ubiquitin proteasome system in response to sphingolipid levels. High sphingolipid levels promote proteasomal degradation of Com2, whereas low sphingolipid levels stabilize Com2. These findings suggest that Com2 is a central component of a feedback system that helps maintain sphingolipid homeostasis.

Strengths:

The identification of Com2 as an upstream regulator of the TORC2-Ypk1 pathway is supported by multiple orthogonal lines of evidence. The authors also provide mechanistic insight into how Com2 protein levels are dynamically controlled through phosphorylation and ubiquitin-mediated degradation. Stabilization of Com2 in response to sphingolipid depletion appears to be required for the transcriptional upregulation of YPK1 expression.

Weaknesses:

Although several important questions remain unresolved, such as which kinases function upstream of Com2 and which ubiquitin ligase(s) target Com2, this work is nevertheless likely to have a meaningful impact on the field of sphingolipid metabolism. The identification of a regulated transcription factor that responds to sphingolipid levels may also be of broader interest to researchers studying membrane homeostasis.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

This paper extends the authors' 2022 studies of how the synthesis of membrane sphingolipids is regulated in budding yeast. Here, they hypothesized that overexpression of a protein involved in sphingolipid (SL) biosynthesis would confer resistance of lip1-1 cells, which are Dox-inducibly defective in expression of a ceramide synthase regulatory subunit, to myriocin (Myr), a serine palmitoyltransferase inhibitor that inhibits SL synthesis. To test this idea, they transformed lip1-1 cells with a multi-copy genomic library, selecting for Myr resistance. Apart from LIP1 itself and YPK1, a protein kinase downstream of TORC2, COM2, which encodes the Com2 C2H2-type zinc finger transcription factor, was the most frequent hit in the screen. They went on to show that com2Δ cells exhibited Myr sensitivity, and that Com2 protein expression was induced under conditions that reduced complex sphingolipid synthesis, such as Myr-treatment. Using ypk1-as ypk2Δ cells and the 3-MB-PP1 Ypk1as a selective Ypk1as kinase inhibitor, they showed that Com2 phosphorylation was independent of Ypk1 activity, suggesting that Ypk1 lies downstream of Com2. Consistently, Myr treatment, which reduces SL synthesis, resulted in an increase in both Com2 and Ypk1 proteins. By generating a Ptet-off-GFP-COM2 strain they showed that when Dox was removed to induce GFP-Com2 overexpression, Myr resistance was increased. They went on to show that Com2 binds to a Com2 response element in the YPK1 promoter and drives expression of Ypk1. This was confirmed by showing that expression of a YPK1-driven lacZ reporter gene was also elevated when GFP-Com2 overexpression was induced. CRISPR deletion of the putative Com2-binding site (CBS) from the endogenous YPK1 promoter was used to generate PYPK1-ΔCBS cells, which showed a significant reduction in Ypk1 expression and exhibited intermediate Myr sensitivity, suggesting that Com2 is important for but not the only regulator of Ypk1 expression. Analysis of SL levels showed that they largely paralleled the levels of Ypk1 protein and active pT662 Ypk1. Using deletion analysis of the COM2 gene, they showed that residues 2-190 and the C-terminal DNA binding domain of Com2 were essential for Com2 function in the SL synthesis pathway. Deletion of {greater than or equal to}40 amino acids from the N-terminus increased expression of Com2 protein irrespective of Myr treatment, suggesting that Com2 protein levels are regulated by protein stability. Consistently, they found the high level of Com2 protein induced by Myr was rapidly reversed by treatment with phytosphingosine (PHS), a ceramide precursor that bypasses the Myr-blocked step and restores SL synthesis. The reduction in Com2 protein plus PHS was prevented by MG132 proteasome inhibitor treatment and led to the accumulation of polyUb-Com2 species, consistent with Com2 being negatively regulated by SL-induced UPS-mediated degradation. Based on the use of selective inhibitors of different steps in SL synthesis, they showed that SL biosynthesis up to the level of MIPC (mannnosyldiinositol phosphorylceramide) is required for the SL-mediated degradation response. Based on individual and combined K to R mutagenesis of the three Lys in Com2 1-49, they showed that K23, K35 and K51 in combination are needed for PHS-induced Com2 degradation, and therefore are likely to be the main Com2 Ub sites. Finally, they observed that PHS induced an increase in K3R Com2 phosphorylation, finding that an S/T10A mutant was only weakly phosphorylated and was resistant to PHS-induced degradation, suggesting that phosphorylation of Com2 is required for PHS-dependent degradation.

The paper is clearly written, and the data in Figures 1-6 show convincingly that the Com2 zinc finger protein, by inducing the expression of a set of genes, including YPK1 and LCB1, plays an important role in sphingolipid (SL) homeostasis in yeast under conditions when sphingolipid levels are low. However, the data in Figures 7 and 8, where the authors provide evidence that the Com2 protein was rapidly degraded in a proteasome-dependent manner in response to phytosphingosine (PHS) treatment, dependent on the N-terminal 40 residues of Com2 and a combination of three Lys residues in this region, are intriguing but incomplete. There are a number of issues, including the identity of the Com2 ubiquitylation sites. They showed that the K23/35/51R Com2 mutant was stabilized, but did they provide direct evidence that these three Lys are in fact ubiquitylated (e.g. GG-K peptide enrichment based MS analysis of Ub-Com2 from PHS-treated, MG132-treated cells). They showed that PHS treatment increased Myc13-tagged Com2 ubiquitylation in the presence of MG132, but did not show that the K3R Com2 mutant (or the S/T10A phosphorylation site Com2 mutant) failed to be ubiquitylated. They also found that the WT Com2 and particularly the K3R Com2 mutant protein exhibited hyperphosphorylation in response to PHS treatment, and that mutation of 10 potential pSer sites to Ala abolished this effect, and stabilized the Com2 protein. However, it is unclear whether the K3R mutation led to increased Com2 hyperphosphorylation per se following PHS treatment, or whether this is because there is more K3R protein, as they suggest might be the case. It is also not clear what protein kinase is responsible or how it might be activated when SL levels are high. In addition, the E3 Ub ligase needed for Com2 degradation was not identified, and it is not clear whether Com2 phosphorylation is directly involved in its recognition by a phosphodependent E3 Ub ligase, as they propose in the model shown in Figure 9. Finally, and perhaps most importantly. It is unclear how elevated levels of phytosphingosine or any sphingolipid are sensed by the Com2 pathway in order to switch on the degradation response as a negative feedback event. The model depicted in Figure 9 exposes all of these unknowns. The paper would be significantly strengthened by additional experiments defining how complex SL levels are sensed, how Com2 is phosphorylated in response to SL sensor signals, and how (phospho)Com1 is recognized for ubiquitylation and degradation.

In summary, the finding that the Com2 zinc finger transcription factor is an upstream regulator of the sphingolipid biosynthesis pathway in budding yeast, acting as part of an SL sensor system to maintain sphingolipid homeostasis, is new and potentially important. However, more mechanistic work needs to be done to address the unanswered questions raised by the data in Figures 7 and 8.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

This paper asks how the NK cell receptor KIR2DL4 binds HLA-G and undergoes endocytosis. The authors propose that an allosteric disulfide-bond switch controls whether the receptor is in a ligand-binding or non-binding state, and they support this model using mutagenesis, imaging, mass spectrometry, and structural prediction.

Strengths:

A major strength is the use of diverse, complementary approaches to validate the central claim. The authors combined unbiased random mutagenesis to identify key residues, confocal microscopy to track cellular localization , and mass spectrometry to quantify the redox states of specific disulfide bonds. These methods consistently support a single model: an allosteric disulfide switch. The transition between a Cys10-Cys28 bond and a Cys28-Cys74 bond serves as a functional switch that controls whether the receptor resides at the plasma membrane to bind ligand or remains inactive in endosomes.

Weaknesses:

The core model is interesting, but some of the strongest mechanistic claims still rely heavily on structure prediction rather than direct structural evidence, especially the proposed HLA-G contact surface in Figure 6.

The paper supports an effect of the disulfide state on trafficking and uptake, but the case for direct KIR2DL4-HLA-G binding still feels somewhat indirect. The manuscript itself notes that direct binding had not been previously shown, and the current explanation partly depends on inference about which disulfide state is present.

Most of the main experiments are done in transfected 293T cells, so it is still not fully clear how strongly this mechanism carries over to the more relevant NK-cell setting discussed in the paper.

The cellular evidence for the PDI story is not specific, since it depends a lot on inhibitor and blocking experiments that could affect the broader extracellular redox environment.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

Rajagopalan et al show how extracellular domain features regulate KIR2DL4 internalization. The trafficking phenotypes of cysteine mutants are logically organized, and well-summarized in a Table. The disulfide mapping and differential alkylation strategy are appropriate and provide strong support for alternative disulfide configurations in D0. The higher accessibility or more selective reduction of Cys10-Cys28 as compared to Cys28-Cys74 by PDI is a key mechanistic anchor.

Strengths:

The identification of a conformational switch in KIR2DL4 is conceptually novel. Experimental elegance, detailed and well-written.

Weaknesses:

Most of the mechanistic work was shown in HEK293. The authors should exhibit relevance using primary NK cells (using primary NK)

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

Sun et al. generated germline-specific cKO mice for the Znhit1 gene and examined its effect on male meiosis. The authors found that the loss of Znhit1 affects the transcriptional activation of pachytene. Znhit1 is a subunit of the SRCAP chromatin remodeling complex and a depositor of H2AZ, and in cKO spermatocytes, H2AZ is not deposited into the gene region. The authors claim that this is why the PGA was not activated. These findings provide important insights into the mechanisms of transcriptional regulation during the meiotic prophase.

Strengths:

The authors used samples from their original mouse model, analyzing both the epigenome and the transcriptome in detail using diverse NGS analyses to gain new insights into PGA. The quality of the results appeared excellent.

Comments on revisions:

Sun et al. have responded to each comment with great care and sincerity, and substantial improvements are evident.

In particular, the addition of scRNA-seq data from P35 samples appears to play an important role in supporting the authors' claims.

However, there is still room for improvement in the reanalysis of the data and in the Discussion section.

From the data perspective, for example, the authors state in line 347 of the revised manuscript that "We found that Znhit1-deficient spermatocytes phenocopied abnormal meiotic phenotypes observed in A-MYB mutants." However, the corresponding descriptions in the main text and figure legends are not sufficiently detailed, and therefore do not fully support or substantiate this interpretation. Incorporating a statistical comparison between DEGs in Znhit1-sKO and A-myb KO would likely strengthen this point.

Regarding the overall structure of the Discussion, the connections among delayed DSB repair, MSCI, and PGA regulation via H2A.Z remain somewhat descriptive and difficult to follow. This may reflect a lack of direct evidence linking these processes; however, a more logically structured and clearly articulated Discussion would improve clarity.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

The study demonstrates that Znhit1 regulates male meiosis, with deletion causing pachytene failure associated with defective expression of pachytene genes and subtle effects on X-Y pairing and DSB repair. The authors attribute this phenotype to the defective incorporation of the Znhit1 target H2A.Z into chromatin.

Strengths:

The paper and the figures are well presented and the narrative is clear. Evidence that the conditional deletion strategy removes Znhit1 is strong, with multiple orthogonal approaches used. Most of the meiotic phenotyping is well performed, and the omics analysis clearly identifies a dramatic effect on the meiotic gene expression program. The link to H2A.Z and A-MYB adds a mechanistic angle to the study.

Comments on revisions:

In the revision, the authors have addressed most of my comments. The only incomplete one is comment 1, where I asked them to define the stage of germ cell arrest by histology. I requested this because the stage of arrest they identified is so unique. They didn't do it, and instead used the scRNAseq to show a depletion at the late pachytene stage onwards. I guess it supports their main findings, but it's a bit disappointing.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

In this manuscript, the authors use HiC to study the 3D genome of CD14+ CD16+ monocytes from the blood of healthy and those from patients with Alcohol-associated Hepatitis.

Overall, the authors perform a cursory analysis of the HiC data and conclude that there are a large number of changes in 3D genome architecture between healthy and AH patient monocytes. They highlight some specific examples that are linked to changes in gene expression. The analysis is of such a preliminary nature that I would usually expect to see the data from all figures in just one or two figures.

In addition, I have a number of concerns regarding the experimental design and the depth of the analyses performed that I think must be addressed.

(1) There is a myriad of literature that describes the existence of cell-type-specific 3D genome architecture. In this manuscript, there is an assumption by the authors that the CD14+ CD16+ monocytes represent the same population from both the healthy and diseased patients. Therefore, the authors conclude that the differences they see in the HiC data are due to disease-related changes in the equivalent cell types. However, I am concerned that the AH patient monocytes may have differentiated due to their environment so that they are in fact akin to a different cell type and the 3D genome changes they describe reflect this. This is supported by published articles, for example: Dhanda et al., Intermediate Monocytes in Acute Alcoholic Hepatitis Are Functionally Activated and Induce IL-17 Expression in CD4+ T Cells. J Immunol (2019) 203 (12): 3190-3198, in which they show an increased frequency of CD14+ CD16+ intermediate monocytes in AH patients that are functionally distinct.

I suggest that if the authors would like to study the specific effects of AH on 3D genome architecture then they should carefully FACsort the equivalent monocyte populations from the healthy and AH patients.

(2) The analysis of the HiC data is quite preliminary. In the 3D genome field, it is usual to report the different scales of genome architecture, for example, compartments, topologically associated domains (TADs) and loops. I think that reporting this information and how it changes in AH patients in the appropriate cell types would be of great interest to the field.

Comments on revisions:

In the revision the authors did not respond to my concerns which I believe still remain valid and compromise the author's conclusions of AH-specific effects on genome architecture.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

Al Asafen and colleagues here apply a set of scanning fluorescence correlation spectroscopic approaches (Raster Image Correlation Spectroscopy (RICS), cross-correlation RICS, and pair correlation function spectroscopy) to address the nucleo-cytoplasmic kinetics of the Dorsal (Dl) transcription factor in early Drosophila embryos. The Toll/Dl system has long been appreciated to establish dorsal-ventral polarity of the embryo through Toll-dependent control of Dl nuclear localization, and represents one of a handful of model morphogen gradients produced with high enough precision to yield robust biophysical measurements of general transcription factor activity and function. By measurement of GFP-tagged Dl protein, either in wild-type embryos, or in mutant embryos with low/medium/high levels of Toll signaling, the authors report diffusivity of Dl in nuclear and cytoplasmic compartments, as well as the fraction of mobile and immobile Dl, which can be correlated with DNA binding through cross-correlation RICS. A model is presented where Cactus/IkB is implicated in preventing Dl from binding to DNA.

Strengths:

The study uses raster image correlation spectroscopy approaches to measure biophysical components of the Dl gradient in Drosophila embryos. It convincingly demonstrates a positive correlation between Toll pathway activity and the fraction of bound Dl in the nucleus. RICS methodology has widespread potential applications in cell and developmental biology, and this study will contribute to its adoption.

Weaknesses:

The study seeks to test a hypothesis for how the Toll pathway may limit Dl DNA binding in the nucleus. This experiment, while producing initial support for a role of nuclear Cactus, is confounded by co-expression of wild-type Dl, thus limiting the interpretation of the experimental results.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

In this manuscript, Al Asafen, Clark et al. use fluorescence correlation spectroscopy (FCS) to quantitatively analyze the mobility of Dl along the DV axis of the early Drosophila embryo. Dl is essential for dorsal-ventral (DV) patterning and its gradient initiates the activation of several genes and thereby orchestrates the formation of the Drosophila body plan. While the mechanisms underlying Dl gradient formation have been extensively studied, there are some observations for which there is not yet a mechanistic explanation. For example, the peak of the Dl gradient grows continuously during nuclear cycles 10-14. This is likely due to Cact-dependent Dl diffusion and Dl binding to DNA. But the biophysical parameters governing Dl nuclear dynamics that would support these claims have not been previously measured. In this work, the authors separated GFP-tagged Dl into a mobile and an immobile pools. Interestingly, the fraction of immobile Dl is position-dependent, revealing more binding to DNA in ventral than in dorsal nuclei. This is either due to higher binding affinity in ventral locations (due to Toll-dependent Dl phosphorylation) or to higher Dl-Cact binding in dorsal nuclei that would prevent Dl to bind DNA. Using specific dl alleles, authors support the latter hypothesis.

Strengths:

The manuscript is well written and their conclusions are convincingly supported by their methodology and analysis. As a quantitative study, the biophysical analysis seems rigorous, in general.

Although this is not the first study that employs FSC to investigate the dynamics of a morphogen, it further exemplifies how these quantitative tools can be used to uncover mechanistic aspects of morphogen dynamics during development. In particular, the manuscript reports novel biophysical parameters of Dl dynamics that will be helpful in future hypotheses-driven modeling studies.

Weaknesses:

The main weakness of the manuscript is that the main biological implication of the study, namely that the asymmetry in the fraction of immobile Dl is a result of nuclear Dl-Cact binding which prevents Dl to bind DNA (Figure 5), occurs in a region of the embryo where there is very little Dl anyways (Figure 1A). While it is interesting that a small fraction of immobile Dl significantly increases in dorsal nuclei in mutants expressing a form of Dl with reduced Cact binding it is unclear what is the biological impact of this effect in a location where Dl is nearly absent.

Another weakness of the study, is that experiments are performed in the presence of a wild-type GFP-tagged Dl (unfortunately, the Dl gradient does not form without it; Supplemental Figure 4). This is an unfortunate technical limitation, because it cannot allow to test how important Cact binding is for determining the amount of Dl that could bind DNA in more biologically-relevant locations of the embryo (e.g., in lateral regions).

Overall, I feel that the manuscript exemplify how FSC methods and analysis can be used for the estimation of biophysical parameters and test biological hypothesis, even under very low concentrations (such as Dl in dorsal-most nuclei). However, due to technical limitations, it falls short in offering a real quantitative understanding of their proposed mechanisms. The authors did not report in Figure 5, what happens to the fraction of Dl bound to DNA in lateral regions in the reduced Cact binding and reduced Toll phosphorylation mutants.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

In this manuscript, Chen, Tu, and Lu focused on how brain-wide dopamine release dynamically changes during sleep/wake state transitions. Using multi-site fiber photometry to monitor DA release, alongside simultaneous EEG and EMG recordings, the authors show distinct DA dynamics during transitions from NREM to WAKE, REM to WAKE, WAKE to NREM, and NREM to REM. Next, they analyze temporal coordination between regions using cross-correlation analysis. Finally, chemogenetic activation of VTA or DRN but not SNc dopamine neurons is shown to promote wakefulness.

Strengths:

The manuscript addresses an interesting question: how brainwide dopamine activity evolves across sleep/wake transitions. The combination of multi-site DA recordings with simultaneous EEG/EMG monitoring is technically sophisticated. The experimental logic is generally clear, and the dataset is rich. The result has several interesting observations.

Weaknesses:

The authors used the GRAB-DA2m sensor to monitor dopamine release. Although DA2m exhibits higher affinity for dopamine compared to NE (around 15-fold difference in EC50 in HEK cell assays), it is still possible that NE contributes to the recorded signals, particularly during sleep/wake transitions when locus coeruleus activity is strongly modulated. Given the widespread and state-dependent dynamics of NE, this potentially needs to be addressed.

Similarly, the chemogenetic experiments rely on CNO to activate hM3Dq-expressing dopamine neurons. However, it is well established that CNO can be converted to clozapine in rodents, and clozapine itself is known to influence sleep/wake. Although the authors included non-hM3Dq-expressing mice as controls, the potential confounding effects of clozapine on sleep regulation remain a concern.

Midbrain dopamine neurons exhibit both tonic and phasic firing patterns. In Figure 1, most reported dopamine transitions appear relatively slow. However, some faster, phasic-like components are observable. For example, in NAc-L during REM-to-WAKE transitions, there are 2 phasic-like decreases between −20 and 0 s. The authors used laser-evoked stimulation experiments in the VTA and DRN and showed that 2 s versus 10 s stimulation produces distinct dopamine kinetics, suggesting that different firing patterns generate distinct DA dynamics. Moreover, the temporal profiles vary not only across regions but also across transitions within the same region. For example, in CeA, the NREM-to-WAKE transition shows a relatively rapid decrease, whereas REM-to-WAKE displays a much slower decline. Similarly, some regions (e.g., NAc-L NREM-to-WAKE, DRN REM-to-WAKE) show faster changes, while others (e.g., mPFC WAKE-to-NREM, VTA NREM-to-WAKE) show slower kinetics. These observations argue against a simple region-specific explanation and instead suggest that distinct firing modes may differentially contribute depending on transition type.

While cross-correlation analysis provides insight into the temporal coordination of DA signals across regions, several limitations should be considered. Sleep/wake transitions are inherently non-stationary events, whereas cross-correlation assumes relatively stable signal properties within the analysis window. This mismatch may bias lag estimates and obscure transient lead-lag relationships. Moreover, the temporal resolution of fiber photometry and the kinetics of genetically encoded DA sensors limit the precision with which timing relationships can be interpreted, particularly for sub-second lags.

In the Introduction, the authors state that they aim to address 'which dopaminergic populations causally drive these patterns.' However, the chemogenetic approach used operates on a relatively slow timescale: CNO-induced activation takes 15-30 minutes to produce effects, and the induced changes are long-lasting. In contrast, the dopamine transitions described in Figure 1 occur on a much faster timescale compared to CNO manipulation. Thus, while chemogenetic activation demonstrates that stimulating VTA or DRN dopamine neurons promotes wakefulness, it does not directly establish that these populations causally drive the rapid transition-related DA dynamics observed in the photometry recordings.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

In "Brainwide dopamine dynamics across sleep-wake transitions", Chen et al. provide a thorough description of how dopamine dynamics fluctuate across sleep-wake transitions and in transitions between sleep states. To achieve this, the authors used multi-channel fiber photometry and a genetically encoded fluorescent dopamine reporter to simultaneously measure dopamine dynamics in 8 brain regions. They also used EEG measurements to precisely quantify and time transitions between sleep states and wakefulness. Finally, the authors used channelrhodopsin to examine dopamine dynamics following subregion stimulation and chemogenetics to test the causal relationship between activation of distinct dopamine neuron populations and their effects on sleep state.

The conclusions made by the authors in this study are modest and appropriate given the largely observational nature of the principal findings. The use of optogenetics to probe regional dopamine signaling following activation of distinct nuclei is interesting, but not entirely novel and constrained in interpretability. Similarly, the chemogenetics experiment largely confirms previous studies, which the authors correctly cited in the text.

The principal findings of this study are based on strong methodological and analytical methods. Implanting 8 optical fibers in a single mouse, along with EEG/EMG electrodes, is technically challenging, providing valuable, simultaneous measurements of dopamine fluctuations across the brain. This enables the strong correlational and time-locked analyses performed by the authors in Figure 2. What's more, the use of EEG/EMG electrodes provides time-locked descriptions of sleep states, enabling precise comparisons between the dopamine signal and sleep state transitions.

The paper has some weaknesses that the authors could address. The analyses in Figure 1 could be strengthened to show how dopamine changes during transitions between specific sleep states. The injection sites for channelrhodopsin and chemogenetic viruses could be validated to strengthen the interpretation of those results. Also, a stronger justification for the experiments conducted in Figure 3 could be provided, as they seem unrelated to the present study.

Overall, this study has strong descriptive power, convincingly showing how dopamine fluctuates across sleep states. Some of the other aspects of the paper, however, are somewhat limited in novelty and interpretation.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

Pecak et al have deciphered the conformational dynamics of a heterodimeric model ABC transporter, TmrAB, a functional homolog of the human antigen transporter TAP, using single-molecule Forster resonance energy and fluorophores attached to residues at either nucleotide binding domains or periplasmic gate. The analysis not only differentiated ATP-free and bound states but also enabled the real-time monitoring of protein conformational changes, precisely dissecting transport cycles and resolving transient intermediates. This study is absolutely significant in providing and establishing a general pipeline delineating the conformational dynamics in heterodimeric ABC transporters.

Strengths:

The scientific study is very well documented for experimental design, results, and conclusions supported by the experimental data. The authors have determined the conformational dynamics of TmrAB across different ATP concentrations, including physiological ones, and resolved an outward open state and other conformational states consistent with previous cryoEM and DEER studies.

Weaknesses:

The scientific study needs a bit of in-depth analysis with respect to consistency in Kd and its implications on the mechanism.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

In their manuscript entitled 'ATP-driven conformational dynamics reveal hidden intermediates in a heterodimeric ABC transporter', Pečak et al. use elegant single-molecule FRET experiments in detergent to investigate the heterodimeric ABC transporter TmrAB. By combining simulations of the transporter's accessible volume with elegant trapping strategies, the authors identify an unresolved outward-facing open state and conclude that it is usually obscured by a rapidly interconverting ATP-bound ensemble. Overall, the study demonstrates that smFRET can resolve the short-lived intermediate states of TmrAB and potentially other ABC transporters that are obscured in ensemble measurements.

It is a very interesting study that highlights the power of combining high-resolution structural information with spectroscopic approaches. I have three major points and a few minor criticisms.

Major points:

(1) The main weakness is that the authors base their conclusions on a very limited set of FRET pairs. While TmrAB has been extensively studied in terms of its structure, the authors should at least acknowledge this limitation more clearly.

(2) Most smFRET distributions were fitted with one, two, or three Gaussians. However, in several cases, additional populations with noticeable amplitudes appear to be present (e.g., Figure 3c at 0.1 mM and 3 mM ATP; Figure 4a, apo; Figure 4c, 0.3 mM R9L). Could the authors clarify why these populations were not included in the analysis?

(3) Figure 3c (3 mM ATP): Is it truly possible to distinguish the two states in this distribution?

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

Chen and colleagues conducted a cross-sectional longitudinal study, administering high-definition transcranial direct stimulation (HD-tDCS) targeting the left DLPFC to examine the effect of HD-tDCS on real-world procrastination behavior. They find that seven sessions of active neuromodulation to the left DLPFC elicited greater modulation of procrastination measures (e.g., task-execution willingness, procrastination rates, task aversiveness, outcome value) relative to sham. They show that HD-tDCS reduces task aversiveness and increases task-execution willingness on real-world tasks as quantified by intensive experience sampling methods, providing causal evidence for the role of DLPFC in modulating contextual features to delaying or completing one's goals.

Strengths:

• This is a well-designed protocol with rigorous administration of high-definition transcranial direct current stimulation across multiple sessions. The intensive experience sampling approach which probes and assesses self-relevant task goals is innovative and aims to address an important question regarding the specific role of DLPFC in modulating specific features of chronic procrastination behavior (e.g., task-execution willingness, task aversiveness).

• The quantification of task aversiveness through AUC metrics is a clever approach to account for the temporal dynamics of task aversiveness, which is notoriously difficult to quantify.

Weaknesses:

• While the findings that neurostimulation reduces procrastination behavior is compelling, there remain several alternative interpretations for these effects. For example, it could be that the task-execution willingness isn't increased per se, but rather that the goal completion becomes more valuable as participants learn from feedback or become more aware of their successful attainment of or failure to complete task goals. It is unclear whether the effects could be driven by improved working memory or attention to the reported tasks (and this limitation is addressed by the authors). In short, it is also difficult to examine the temporal dynamics of how these goals are selected across time.

• It is unclear whether the current evidence support long-retention of this neurostimulation intervention. The study includes one 6-month timepoint after the study to examine the long-term retention of the neural stimulation effect. Future studies that evaluate the long-term effects across multiple time points would strengthen the evidence for the robustness of this intervention.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

The authors report the results of a tDCS brain stimulation study (verum vs sham stimulation of left DLPFC; between-subjects) in 46 participants, using an intense stimulation protocol over 2 weeks, combined with an experience-sampling approach, plus follow-up measures after 6 months.

Strengths:

The authors are studying a relevant and interesting research question using an intriguing design, following participants quite intensely over time and even at a follow-up time point. The use of an experience-sampling approach is another strength of the work.

Comments on revisions:

Overall, I think the authors made many improvements to their manuscript. There are, however, still a number of concerns that first need to be addressed, since it is still not currently possible to fully evaluate the analyses, results, and conclusions presented in the paper. I list these points below:

(1) The authors still use causal language where they must not use causal language. This is true for many places in the manuscript; I am highlighting here just a few places, but the authors nevertheless have to go carefully through the whole manuscript to change these instances.

Some examples:

(a) In response to my comment (1) in the previous round, where the authors adjusted their text, the authors still use causal language in their last sentence "... procrastination behavior has been observed to impair general health..." Unless the cited study truly allowed causal conclusions, the causal language should be removed here as well.

(b) The authors still make (causal) claims about the involvement of self-control in their observed results. To reiterate from the previous round of revisions: The authors cannot make any strong claims about the role of self-control processes because they do not directly measure self-control nor do they directly manipulate self-control or have a design that would rule out alternative mechanisms other than self-control. Therefore, their claims about self-control have to be toned down. It is laudable that the authors have added a statement towards the end of their discussion about not being able to make strong conclusions about the role of self-control. But the authors need to use similar careful wording not just at the end of the discussion but throughout the manuscript.

(i) In the abstract, the authors use the formulation "...conceptualized roles of self-control on procrastination..." -- this wording is still too strong, suggesting that you actually studied self-control.

(ii) In the introduction (page 4, lines162-169), the way the authors formulate these sentences suggests that they directly measured self-control. Again, the authors need to make it explicit that they are not directly measuring self-control but its hypothesized down-stream consequences on valuations/behavior.

(iii) In the discussion, for example, on page 11, lines 555 and following, the authors write:

"One major contribution this study has made is to disentangle the neurocognitive mechanism of procrastination by demonstrating that self-control could increase task-outcome value so as to reduce procrastination."

Again, please be aware that you are NOT demonstrating that self-control does anything, since you only measure procrastination rates, outcome values, and task aversiveness. It is possible that mechanisms other than self-control might be relevant for this. Perhaps neuromodulation directly increases outcome values, without involvement of self-control processes. You simply cannot know that and therefore you cannot make those claims in the form that you are making them. You can write that the observed results are consistent with the idea that neuromodulation might have had an effect on self-control and this in turn might have affected outcome values. But you also need to make it explicit that, to substantiate these claims, you would need more direct evidence that indeed self-control was involved. These more careful formulations would not at all reduce the value of your work, but indeed they would rather demonstrate your carefulness in interpreting the results you obtained.

(2) I am still puzzled by the power analysis. In the text, you write that a sample size of 18 participants (i.e., 9 per group) would be sufficient to achieve 80% power. I still feel this seems far too optimistic and hard to believe, but that is not my point here. While in the text, you write that you need 18 participants, the G*power output seems to suggest a sample size of 34, not 18. Why this contradiction? Or is it not contradictory? If it is not, then please explain it more fully.

(3) I have several comments about the mixed-effects analysis.

First of all, I want to thank the authors for adding more details, things have become much clearer now. However, I still have a few questions and comments related to these analyses:

(a) The variable Emotions was within-subjects, as far as I understood. Accordingly, Emotions should most likely be modelled with random slopes varying over participants (in addition to being modelled as a fixed effect).

(b) The analyses still cannot fully be evaluated as I cannot access the scripts and data. The authors mention that the scripts and data should be available via a link they provide (https://doi.org/10.57760/sciencedb.35140). However, when I try to access these materials via this link, no page opens; it seems the link is dead?

(c) What are the results and conclusions if you do not include the covariates of no interest? I.e., please re-run your main models without age, gender, SES, Emotions.

(d) The authors mention that they use GLMMs, which would suggest generalized mixed-effects models, but they do not describe what family/distribution they used. Since they mention lmerTest and seem to report F-tests, my guess is that they used Gaussian models. However, both their DVs (procrastination rates and their ratings) are bounded variables and at least procrastination rates hit the lower boundary. That can mean that their analyses suffer from inflated Type 1 and/or Type 2 rates. Therefore, please repeat the analyses with an appropriate generalized mixed-effects model (perhaps a beta regression type of model?).

(e) When reporting the results of the mixed-effects models, the authors report the regression coefficient, standard error, DFs and p value, but not the actual test statistic. Please add the information about the test statistic and report all degrees of freedom (in case of F tests that would be the degrees of freedom of the test and the residual degrees of freedom).

(f) Thank you for adding the analysis where you remove the last two sessions. But currently you present them in the manuscript without explaining/motivating why you do this. Please add this motivation, as otherwise it will be puzzling for the reader why you conduct these analyses.

(4) Mediation analysis

In your manuscript, you present some mediation analyses. Please be aware that such mediation analyses cannot establish causality and they suffer from extremely high Type 1 error rates (see, e.g., https://datacolada.org/103).

My suggestion would be to completely remove all mediation analyses. However, if you want to keep them, then you need to be extremely careful in how you present the results. You need to explicitly mention that you cannot derive any causal conclusions from them and that simulation studies have shown that such mediation analyses suffer from extremely high Type 1 errors.

As an example (but the mediation results are mentioned in several places, for example, also in the abstract):

On page 10, lines 501-503: What you can causally conclude is that neuromodulation affects your measured variables (outcome values, procrastination rates, task aversiveness), but you cannot conclude that the effect of neuromodulation on procrastination rates causally operates via outcome values. Thus, please adjust the formulation accordingly. The same applies to the mediation section that follows right afterwards (page 10, lines 505-522).

(5) In the introduction, the authors introduce several theoretical procrastination frameworks (TMT, mood repair, TDM). Do the results of the current paper help to decide which framework might be the most appropriate, at least for the authors data set? It might be of interest to address this explicitly.

(6) The language is sometimes hard to understand and seems in quite some places grammatically incorrect. Thus, I think the paper would profit very much from thorough English proofreading.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

This is an interesting study describing intensity changes of lamellipodial Arp2/3 complex incorporation dependent on the substratum the cells are spreading on (PLL vs fibronectin), but also on manipulation of either contractility or osmotic pressure or even external mechanical load exerted onto cells, e.g., by increasing medium viscosity. The authors use quite fancy cell systems for their studies, first of all, a CRISPR-engineered fibroblast cell line in which both endogenous loci of the Arp2/3 complex subunit Arpc2 are tagged with mScarlet, but at the same time, conditionally removable using tamoxifen. These lines, optionally also harboring Pxn-GFP and Lifeact-miRFP670, have previously been described by the authors (Chandra et al, 2022, PMID: 34861242). In addition, they use cells allowing local photoactivation of Rac signalling through a Tiam1 activation module combined with Halo-tagged Arpc2, apparently stably co-expressed in tamoxifen-treated Arpc2-KO fibroblasts. These cells may or may not have been published previously.

Overall, the study provides convincing evidence that Arp2/3 complex accumulation in the lamellipodium negatively correlates with its width and perhaps the mechanical load these actin networks are exposed to at the leading edge membrane, shown initially through allowing cells to spread on substrates in which the formation of integrin-based adhesions is poor (PLL) or stimulated (through fibronectin). In the latter case, lamellipodia are comparably narrow, perhaps reasonably well clutched, and thus feel sufficient counter-force at the leading edge membrane to build a dense, Arp2/3-dependent actin network. Albeit interesting and important to show as the authors did, these results are not entirely surprising given the literature published on actin remodeling in cells in conditions similar to those used by the authors (i.e., on PLL). Thus, the results should be better embedded into the context of this previous literature to more precisely reveal which aspects are new and interesting and which ones are more or less intuitive and expected.

However, the authors also show yet another result, which is quite spectacular indeed, revealing dramatic local protrusion of a Rac-dependent lamellipodium on PLL only in the presence of methylcellulose, but not on PLL alone. Although the authors cannot fully explain the mechanisms causing these results, they are thought-provoking and will certainly stimulate future, relevant research on this topic and new insights. Altogether, I think this is an interesting study that can be shared rapidly, given that the authors provide more experimental detail and transparency concerning their used cell model systems. Aside from a few other suggestions for amendments and corrections, I would also recommend citing classical literature that has provided the basis for the interpretation of the results shown here, as specified below.

Specific criticism and comments:

(1) I feel the paper is interesting for actin remodeling and Arp2/3 complex aficionados, but quite difficult to read and to understand in places for non-experts in the field, so I think the text requires more detailed explanation of specific terms, model systems used, and overall correction of either grammatical or semantic errors, or colloquial language.

(2) In general, I think the characterization of Arp2/3 complex incorporation into the lamellipodia of cells spreading on PLL versus FN is interesting, as it has not been done previously in such a systematic fashion to my knowledge. However, I think the authors could emphasize better how this relates to previously established structural features of actin filament networks, published on PLL. So more than 3 decades ago, Hotchin & Hall published clear evidence that starved fibroblasts can only form focal complexes or adhesions downstream of PDGF or LPA-stimulation if seeded on FN, but not on PLL (see Figure 1 in PMID: 8557752). Around the same time, Flinn and Ridley showed this virtual absence of classical, Rac-dependent focal complexes to be accompanied by the formation of beautiful, broad lamellipodia (see Fig. 1A in PMID: 8743960), which only formed in the absence of excess RhoA activity and thus contractility by the way (see also below). A few years later, Small et al summarized all these phenotypes in a comprehensive review and also showed that cells on PLL (similar to the rapidly migrating keratocytes) combined large, flat lamellipodia with tiny, nascent adhesions scattered throughout these structures (see Figure 2 in PMID: 10047522). These authors also noted that the sole inhibitor-mediated reduction of contractility could switch FN-phenotypes with narrow, ruffling lamellipodia and peripheral focal complexes back to a PLL-type phenotype of broad lamellipodia (see Figure 1 in PMID: 10047522). In the following decade then, different labs (Verkhovsky, Bershadsky, Vavylonis, Watanabe et al) showed beautiful phase contrast or fluorescence movies illustrating that the broad lamellipodial phenotype of cells plated on PLL was accompanied by low frequency membrane ruffling and instead a rapid, continuous rearward flow of continuously assembling actin filament networks, partly also directly shown with actin networks labeled with both LifeAct and Arp2/3 complex subunits (see e.g. PMIDs 18800171 and 22500749). In Alexandrova et al, 2008 (PMID 18800171), authors showed that the formation of adhesions in spreading cells triggers the transition from fast to slow flow (which is of course relevant to the current study and conclusions), whereas Ryan et al, 2012 (PMID 22500749) already established the broad incorporation of actin and Arp2/3 complex into the very broad lamellipodia formed on PLL by Xenopus fibroblasts and the rapid flow of both components from distal to proximal lamellipodial regions. None of these seminal studies has been cited, although they are highly relevant for the interpretation and conclusions of the results presented. I would strongly recommend specifically referring to these studies, as this will actually support the conclusions and interpretations drawn.

(3) On the subject of literature, on the second page of the intro, end of 2nd paragraph, the authors describe Rac signaling to Arp2/3 complex through WRC considered essential for Arp2/3-mediated actin assembly at lamellipodial leading edges, but aside from one of their own papers cite none of the seminal studies by Insall, Scita, Stradal, Rottner, Bogdan labs having published seminal aspects on this pathway.

Considering the rapid F-actin flow in lamellipodia, obviously accompanied by admittedly sparse but continuous Arp2/3 complex incorporation, it is not so surprising that the latter will be obligatory here, and also the accumulation of its prominent activator WRC, as well as the branch stabilizer cortactin. Thus, the data described on page 3 of the Results section could also be framed in the context of all this previously published knowledge, providing a more comprehensive and realistic view of the relevance and novelty of the described data.

(4) In the abstract, the authors state in the context of the force-feedback mechanism established in vitro for the formation of Arp2/3 complex-dependent actin networks that "this phenomenon has not been explored through the examination of real-time responses of endogenous actin networks in cells". In my view, this is not correct, as in their prominent Cell paper, the Sixt laboratory has done exactly that (Mueller et al, 2017, PMID: 18800171). Although Mueller et al have not looked at Arp2/3 complex dynamics as far as I recall, they have still connected the extent and hence intensity of actin networks at the leading edges of keratocyte lamellipodia with the forces exerted onto them, including direct experimental manipulation of those forces. Although the study has been cited in an independent context, this point should be made clear, and the corresponding sentence in the abstract should be amended.

(5) One point that struck me a little bit was the authors' detailed description of cell spreading on PLL and the quite strong variability of Arp2/3 incorporation dependent on the timing after spreading (as for instance the very strong and quite narrow Arp2/3 leading edge intensity at 2 hours post-seeding in Figure 3S2D). In the authors' view, they have worked with a very clean system, as they emphasized to even have eliminated the FN-locus in their cells, excluding the secretion of endogenous FN (PMID: 34861242), but how about ECM components potentially present in serum, such as, for instance, vitronectin? Indeed, it looks like the authors have done all experiments in the presence of 10% serum as far as I can see, although most of the classical PLL-experiments mentioned above have been performed with starved cells in the absence of serum. I think it would generate a more complete picture of the phenotypes and results as compared to the literature if the authors performed a subset of the key experiments on PLL without serum. I don't think the starving of cells as such is important and could be counteracted by simply lamellipodia-inducing growth factors adding into the spreading medium, traditionally perhaps PDGF or EGF (dependent on the receptor distribution of those fibroblasts), but the absence of serum would have two advantages: it would not only exclude any potential impact of serum-containing ECM components, but also alleviate the hyperstimulation of the Rho-pathway through LPA-bound BSA, the major serum-protein, which has previously been shown to counteract the "undisturbed" formation of PLL-type lamellipodia (see Figure 1B in Flinn & Ridley, PMID: 8743960).

(6) Regarding the scanning EM-images shown in the Supplement, currently called Figure 3S2A and -B (in the text erroneously termed Figures 3S1A and-B, see above). I am not sure how representative these individual EM-images of the cell plated on PLL are, given the data of rapid rearward flow of actin and Arp2/3 complex subunits, at least at early stages of spreading. Again, the classical literature on PLL-type lamellipodia and, in particular, previously published movies of such lamellipodia suggest broad lamellipodia with few ruffles, and the opposite with cells plated on FN. So in this context, the scanning EM-data shown on both PLL and FN do neither fit the authors' own data very well nor the literature, and I would recommend making sure that the individual cells selected were (i) correctly annotated and (ii) representative of a specific time point of spreading actually fitting the previously described data.

(7) It also surprised me to see that the authors describe the spreading process on PLL to actually be much slower than on FN (see Figure 3S2C - in the text Figure 3S1C). It is tempting to speculate that this might change if plating the cells in serum-free medium, as traditionally, full spreading and lamellipodia formation downstream of PDGF-stimulation (at least in 3T3 fibroblasts) is described to occur in the range of 10-30 minutes at maximum, and not several hours as shown here. This point could also be considered, or at least discussed.

(8) The movies are of very high quality and beautiful to look at, but it would help the reader to get a bit more information in the legends (like the meaning of the time-stamps, which will display elapsed time in minutes:seconds I assume, but this info is missing from the legends as far as I can see. Also, it would help the reader to better mark in the movies when a specific treatment kicks in. For instance, in movie 10, the legend states treatment starts at 10:00 (minutes:seconds?), but it would help very much if the authors could paste the term "blebbistatin" directly into the movie, beginning with the frame of treatment start.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

The authors work with endogenously labeled Arp2/3 complexes in mouse fibroblast cell lines plated on surfaces coated with fibronectin or poly-L-lysine. They observe increased retrograde flow, but decreased actin and Arp2/3 densities, in the absence of integrin-based adhesions. Interestingly, they further find that an increase in branching density can be achieved in the absence of adhesion by a diverse set of perturbations, including blebbistatin, physical compression under agarose, and methylcellulose-mediated increases in extracellular viscosity. Although all of these conditions are likely to have pleiotropic effects on cell physiology and signaling, one plausible common denominator is that they promote cell spreading and may thereby increase membrane tension.

This study addresses a question of broad interest. The relationship between protrusive actin assembly, resisting forces, and membrane tension has received considerable attention in recent years (for a recent overview, see PMID: 38991476). Earlier work established that branched actin networks can respond to force by increasing network density in vitro (PMID: 26771487; PMID: 35748355), and pioneering work from the Sixt laboratory showed that keratocyte lamellipodia adapt to resisting forces by increasing actin density in cells (PMID: 28867286). Against that background, the manuscript contains novel and insightful observations. At the same time, the current version would be strengthened by a more rigorous mechanistic analysis and by clearer reporting of experimental systems and statistics.

Major points:

(1) Engagement with prior work on membrane tension and protrusion.

The relationship between protrusive actin assembly and membrane tension is a subject of major current interest (PMID: 38991476), and it is unfortunate that the authors do not engage more fully with seminal prior work on this subject. In particular, work from the Weiner laboratory showed that membrane tension can act as an inhibitor of cell protrusion and branched actin assembly, at least in some cell types (PMID: 22265410; PMID: 37311454). In addition, a membrane-tension-sensitive signaling pathway involving PLD2 and mTORC2 has been proposed to mediate this negative feedback (PMID: 27280401). These findings appear, at least at first glance, to contrast with the model advanced here, in which elevated membrane tension is associated with increased branching density. A more explicit discussion of these findings and of the apparent differences between systems would be essential. Testing the relevance of some of the proposed negative-feedback regulators, for example, mTORC2 or PLD2, under at least some conditions expected to increase membrane tension would substantially strengthen the manuscript.

(2) The central assumption regarding membrane tension should be tested directly.

Part of the model put forward by the authors rests on the assumption that most of the perturbations used to promote cell spreading, with the exception of hyperosmotic treatment, also increase membrane tension. This is a testable hypothesis. Multiple mechanical and optical methods have been established for this purpose, including tether pulling, micropipette aspiration, and fluorescent membrane-tension probes. Directly measuring membrane tension under at least a subset of the key perturbations would significantly strengthen the manuscript.

(3) WAVE and cortactin localization should be quantified.

The claim that WAVE and cortactin localization are independent of fibronectin-integrin engagement (Figure 2A-B) deserves to be established quantitatively. I appreciate that some variability is expected because these experiments use exogenous fluorescently tagged constructs, but the current presentation relies too heavily on representative kymographs. Quantitative analysis would make this conclusion more convincing.

(4) The interpretation of the increased-viscosity experiments needs stronger physical justification.

I am aware of the recent high-profile work showing that elevated extracellular viscosity can promote migration (PMID: 36323783), and the present manuscript is clearly supporting this. However, the physical basis for this perturbation is neither well reasoned nor explained clearly enough here. The authors use 0.6% methylcellulose of the 1500 cP grade (the relevant viscosity of the final medium should be stated explicitly btw!). Estimating the added viscosity at 7 cP = 0.007 Pa·s (up from 1 to 8 cP), one can formulate the rough back-of-the-envelope calculation for the added viscous stress:

delta τ = delta η v/h

where τ= viscous stress (Pa = pN/µm²), η = viscosity, v= protrusion speed, h = characteristic shear length scale. For cells protruding at 1 um/min, this resistance will be 0.00001-0.001 Pa. Even if the cells would protrude 100 times faster, the resistance would not exceed one pascal! Hence, the added bulk viscous stress opposing protrusion at this viscosity appears negligible relative to the known force-generating capacity of lamellipodia. This does not invalidate the biological phenotype, but it does suggest that the interpretation should be much more careful.

(5) Cell lines and experimental systems are insufficiently described.

Most biological experiments in this manuscript appear to have been performed in engineered mouse fibroblast lines, but the Methods do not provide sufficient clarity about which specific cell lines were used in which experiments. More concerning, the manuscript refers inconsistently to the base model as both a mouse dermal fibroblast line and MEFs, while the only clearly distinct named line appears to be JR20 fibroblasts used for traction-force microscopy. Along similar lines, the Arp2/3 knockout cells in Figure 2 are not adequately explained in the Results, Methods, or figure legends, regarding how these cells were generated or how the knockout was validated. The authors only later note in the Discussion that these conditional knockouts were described in an earlier paper. In general, the manuscript would benefit from much more explicit reporting of which cell line or derivative was used in each experiment.

(6) Some experiments and quantifications appear to suffer from limited replication.

For example, the optogenetic Rac activation experiment in Figure 2E appears to have been performed possibly only for a single cell per condition, since the raw intensity traces are shown without clear indicators of variability. If that reading is correct, this is below the standard typically expected for mechanistic support and seriously reduces confidence in the strength of this particular conclusion.

(7) Statistical reporting needs clarification.

Although the Methods state that the graphs show 95% confidence intervals, the manuscript does not clearly define the underlying statistical unit for many quantified datasets. In several figures, sample sizes are reported as numbers of cells pooled across only two or three independent experiments, but it is not clear whether the authors performed statistical analyses on pooled single-cell measurements or on experiment-level means. The authors should explicitly state for each quantified panel what n represents, what the error bars denote, which statistical test was used, and whether the analyses were performed on per-cell values or on independent experimental replicates.

(8) The Discussion is rather expansive relative to the amount of experimental evidence presented.

Parts of the Discussion feel more speculative and interpretive than necessary, and the manuscript would be strengthened by focusing the Discussion more tightly on the principal findings, limitations, and immediate implications of the work.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

Summary:

Butler et al. investigated how different force mechanisms influence Arp2/3-related branched actin networks at the leading edge of lamellipodial protrusions in mouse dermal fibroblasts. In particular, their study aimed at characterizing the specific contribution and interplay between load force and adhesion signaling on the regulation of branched actin networks in live-cell experiments using endogenously one-labeled Arp2/3 subunit. A key finding of their work is that by plating fibroblasts on two different substrates supporting or not integrin engagement, they observe striking differences in branched network architectures that cannot be explained solely by integrin signaling. Instead, several of their results point to mechanical feedback resulting from changes in membrane tension during spreading, regulating the density of branched actin networks. Finally, by modifying the extracellular viscosity, the authors suggest that the stress generated at the actin-membrane interface would play a key role in regulating branched actin density in protrusions.

Major Strengths:

(1) The combination of methods used in this paper (endogenous labeling of Arp2/3, Arp2/3 genetic knockout, optogenetic activation of Rac) provides a unique opportunity to monitor spatial and temporal reorganization of endogenous branched networks generated by Arp2/3 in live cells in response to different biochemical and mechanical manipulations.

(2) The authors provide a deep characterization of the actin-network organization and dynamics observed when plating cells on different substrates, engaging or not integrins (Figure 1 and associated supplementary: intensity and width of the signal in protrusions, retrograde flow, incorporation of actin to the edge, nascent focal adhesions), which serves as a strong basis to build the rest of the paper. They also offer a comprehensive analysis of the different parameters that could explain the lack of dense branched actin network at the leading edge of fibroblasts grown on PLL-coated surfaces (they exclude the contribution of reduced branch nucleation by NPF or insufficient branch stabilization in Figure 2, the insufficient integrin-mediated signaling activating NPF in Figure 2).

(3) After having ruled out the influence of adhesion signaling in the regulation of branched actin-network density at the leading edge of the cells, the authors demonstrate that the enrichment of Arp2/3 at the leading edge is evolving together with cell spreading, suggesting a possible role of membrane tension in the process (Figure 3 and associated supplementary). To prove their point, they tested numerous methods to promote adhesion-independent cell spreading (Figures 4 to 6), while describing well the limitations of each of these techniques. These methods included promoting rapid spreading on PLL-coated substrate using blebbistatin or physical compression under agarose, and finally increasing extracellular viscosity by treating cells with methylcellulose. All of these treatments led to very consistent results upon the increase in membrane tension, supporting the idea of membrane tension controlling the branched actin organization of cells. This conclusion was further supported by an experiment (Figure 4 S1) in which a hyper-osmotic shock was performed, increasing the actin-membrane interface stress while keeping the spreading area of cells, which led to a drastic increase in Arp2/3 density at the protrusions.

(4) By activating Rac optogenetically in cells plated on PLL treated with methylcellulose (Figure 8), the authors observe the formation of robust protrusions enriched in Arp2/3, showing that increased extracellular viscosity can bypass the requirement for ECM proteins to activate protrusion driven by signaling.

Weaknesses:

(1) Although the lamellipodial architecture in cells plated on PLL appears very different from the one developed by cells grown on fibronectin (Figure 1, wider and less homogenous), the branched network is still present, and one may wonder how these differences can affect the functionality of the lamellipodia (for example, by measuring the impact on migration in 2D and 3D systems).

(2) To explain the differences observed in the branched actin networks developed by cells on PLL and FN, the authors envision several hypotheses, among which signaling factors or branched-promoting factors would be decreased in the absence of integrin adhesions. They could have, in addition, assessed actin network dynamics and turnover (we could imagine that competition between Arp2/3- and non-Arp2/3- driven structures could be different in the presence or absence of adhesions, the competition being nicely visible from Figure 2B and 2C, where, in the absence of Arp2/3, cells form prominent filopodia).

(3) All of the methods used to apply physical forces on barbed ends have their own caveats and alter not only membrane tension (but the limitations are discussed in the paper). The paper may have benefited from micropatterning the cells to either reduce or force the spreading of cells in a controlled fashion. In addition, the conclusions on levels of interface stress between plasma-membrane and the barbed-ends of actin lamellipodial networks rely on an estimate of the effect of perturbations rather than on actual measurements of these stress levels.

Likely impact of the work on the field, and the utility of the methods and data to the community:

Although the finding that branched actin networks respond to the application of physical force by increasing their density was already known from previous in vitro studies, this paper offers a detailed and compelling characterization of the reorganization of endogenously labelled branched actin networks upon different mechanical perturbations. In addition to showing the effect of increased extracellular viscosity on promoting branched actin network densification in the absence of ECM, this paper sheds new light on the interplay between signaling and mechanics in regulating protrusion and spreading. While the authors show that both signaling and mechanical feedback are important regulators of branched actin regulation and cell spreading, they demonstrate that optogenetic Rac activation is not sufficient to trigger branch network formation in the absence of sufficient mechanical support. They thus propose that biochemical signaling would act at a different level than mechanics by promoting protrusion persistence and coherence. This work will therefore impact the field of cell biology in offering a new perspective to understand the interplay between mechanical and biochemical feedback in 2D and 3D migration. It may also have broader implications as the formation of branched actin networks under the regulation by mechanical loads has been shown to be involved in other processes such as endocytosis.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

Yuan and colleagues present a thorough study of gene activation before and during metamorphosis in sponge larvae, combining in-depth analyses of staged transcriptomes and chromatin accessibility profiling (ATACseq). Amongst several very interesting findings, the study reveals that the acquisition of settlement competence, which arises in response to decreasing light at sunset, is characterized by changes in chromatin accessibility that anticipate strong transcriptional shifts occurring as metamorphosis starts. Another notable finding is a set of transcription factors amongst the genes strongly up-regulated at the onset of metamorphosis. In addition, larvae exposed to constant light, a condition that stalls metamorphosis, were found to activate metabolic pathways that are not normally expressed in swimming larvae. Together, the findings provide a rare level of understanding into how environmental conditions can promote deployment of alternative developmental programs in planktonic larvae.

Strengths:

This is a very comprehensive, well-documented and rigorous study of a phenomenon of wide interest. It will inspire researchers working on other species to look for similar, environmentally-driven "anticipatory" epigenetic mechanisms. It also provides a wealth of detailed information on genes, notably transcription factors, that are candidates for involvement in regulating specific metamorphosis transitions - and beyond. The data presented here are thus undoubtedly a rich and valuable resource.

Weaknesses:

I see no significant weaknesses; however, the documentation of the data is very compressed, with all the findings contained in 4 multi-panel figures with succinct legends. It is not always straightforward to connect the conclusion statements in the text to the figures. Although the relevant data is available in supplementary files, I would appreciate more help in navigating the data to assess the support for key conclusions, if possible, illustrating each text conclusion explicitly in the main figures.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

It is demonstrated that sponge larvae prepare for receiving the environmental cue (sunset) by extensively modifying their chromatin accessibility in the vicinity of genes that are going to be regulated during metamorphosis, in the absence of large gene expression changes. This program can be offset by modifying the cue (making light constant), leading to a novel molecular state.

Strengths:

This is a top-notch study of a key lifecycle transition in an organism of great phylogenetic importance, involving concurrent gene expression and chromatic accessibility profiling (to the best of my knowledge, this has never been done in non-bilaterians and likely anywhere outside Vertebrata). The result is highly non-trivial. There is also an additional experiment modifying the key environmental cue (constant light), adding additional insight.

Weaknesses:

I have only a couple of suggestions.

(1) Not all new pre-emptively opened OCR regions are associated with genes that are going to be regulated during metamorphosis. Is their association with such genes statistically significant? (Fisher's exact test?)

(2) Re: extended discussion on possible reasons for activation of specific transcription factor families. I feel it is not terribly useful since it is hardly more than guesswork. The authors should consider condensing this part to better emphasize the major (and most unexpected) large-scale regulation patterns.

(3) Re: enrichment analysis based on significant genes (Figure 1H): Even though it is a common practice, there is nuance: as we all know very well, many genes pass a significance threshold not because they are highly differentially regulated (i.e., show large fold-change), but because they are more abundantly expressed overall and so the statistical power for them is greater. A good example is ribosomes - before we realized what was happening, they would show up as enriched in almost every experiment of ours, which was not very useful since their fold-change was quite trivial. I see the authors have ribosome enrichment too, and I suspect there are a few more functional groups that made it because they tend to express highly on average. Ideally, we want to see what is enriched among highly regulated genes, not among abundantly expressed genes. Because of this we moved to compute enrichment based only on fold-change, using the GO_MWU package (https://github.com/z0on/GO_MWU). I suggest authors give it a shot, to see if the enrichment results become more interpretable. GO_MWU is also very powerful to analyze enrichment in WGCNA modules, in case the authors want to try that.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

Summary:

In their manuscript, Huifang Yan and colleagues perform RNA-seq (CEL-seq) and ATAC-seq experiments to profile the transcriptome and chromatin accessibility of sponge larvae across larval competence, settlement and early postlarval development. Amphimedon, the sponge species that they use, is amenable to lab experiments and can therefore be a convenient model for experimenting with this otherwise difficult to assay ecological parameters and cues. They had previously observed that light conditions (diminished light) at sunset are critical for larvae to enter a pre-settlement stage and prime them for settlement and metamorphosis. In this paper, they report that these conditions induce a gain of accessibility in many genes, including transcription factors, and that altering these conditions by providing continuous light at sunset affects this reprogramming event.

Strengths:

The above is a very interesting observation, one that the authors speculate could have a broader significance and be a theme in many more larvae. I agree with the authors that this is an important finding, and I think that the paper will be interesting for a broad readership. If this is the case, the authors open up a new theme of chromatin regulation, extensively studied in mammalian contexts, but severely understudied in pretty much every other context.

Weaknesses:

I think, however, that their paper often reports the data in a difficult-to-follow way, and that other sorts of analyses would have made the results more accessible for a broad readership. Here, I present some suggestions that the authors might want to take into account to improve their results.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Objectives of the study and impact of the work:

The authors of this article primarily aim to reconstruct the evolutionary history of the insect odorant receptor (OR) family, which is responsible for the detection of odorant signals by olfactory neurons. Due to the lack of phylogenetic signal present in the sequences of this multigene family, which evolves very rapidly, phylogenetic analyses have so far never made it possible to precisely retrace how ORs diversified prior to the appearance of present-day insect orders, and what the drivers of this diversification were. For example, one may suspect that the adaptation of ORs to odors emitted by plants constituted a critical step in insect evolution during the "angiosperm terrestrial revolution," which occurred at the end of the Cretaceous, but nothing currently allows this to be asserted.

There are very nice examples, notably in Drosophilids, derived from comparisons between closely related species and documenting mechanisms of OR adaptation to certain signals. However, what the authors attempt to do in this work is to produce a macroevolutionary analysis at the scale of insects as a whole, based almost exclusively on bioinformatic analyses. To do this, they annotated OR genes in about one hundred insect species and developed pipelines for analyzing sequence similarity, structural similarity, and functional similarity, the latter being estimated through a molecular docking approach. An important feature in the evolution of insect ORs is the emergence of a unique co-receptor, called Orco, which appears to be an OR that has lost the ability to bind odorants. In addition to the large-scale bioinformatic analysis, the authors also aim to explore more specifically the factors that favored the emergence of Orco and the selective advantage conferred by the existence of OR-Orco complexes.

Given the importance of odorant receptors in insect biology and in their adaptation to different environments and lifestyles, retracing their evolutionary history is indeed a major question in evolutionary biology. In principle, this type of work therefore has the potential to become a reference in the field and to provide a basis for significant scientific advances.

Major strengths and weaknesses:

The sampling chosen for collecting OR sequences is very impressive, with more than 100 insect families represented, covering most of the major orders. This sampling appears appropriate for the question being addressed. The analysis pipeline used to collect the sequences makes sense, relying on homology-based annotation tools coupled with a structure-based filter. Nevertheless, one can note aberrant numbers of ORs for certain species (much lower than reality), which indicates that the pipeline probably did not function correctly for all genomes. In the absence of a validation step comparing the results with already known OR repertoires, it is difficult to estimate the overall quality of the data. The authors chose to apply a fairly stringent filter on sequence quality (based on predicted 3D structure), which reduces the number from 14,000 to 9,000. This choice seems logical given the subsequent use of these data, but it inevitably leads to data loss. The fact that some OR genes may be missing and that the total number may not be exact for each species is not prohibitive for studying the evolution of the family at a broad scale; however, it calls into question certain results that rely on this total number, such as the correlation between the number of ORs and genome size, lifestyle, and diet.

From the dataset collected, the authors attempted to categorize ORs in several ways, starting with the reconstruction of sequence similarity networks. The approach is interesting, but in the end, the results do not seem to be sufficiently exploited, and it is not obvious what the advantage of this approach is compared with the "classical" phylogenetic approach, which generally fails to reveal homology relationships between ORs from species belonging to different insect orders. Here again, the majority of the clusters identified are "order-specific," and when this is not the case, the authors did not attempt to exploit the results. For example, clusters SeqC26 or SeqC28, which appear to be shared by many insects, are potentially very interesting. It might have been relevant to combine this similarity-based clustering approach with phylogenetic reconstructions within each shared cluster.

The clustering based on structure also leads to the identification of a majority of "order-specific" clusters, but once again, the clusters shared by several orders are not truly exploited, which does not provide new insight into the evolution of ORs. However, the authors highlight a group of ORs in flies that appear to possess an unusual intracellular region. This is interesting, although it is a result more relevant to OR structure than to their evolution. The function of these ORs in Drosophila melanogaster, if it is known, is not discussed.

The analysis of structural diversity then leads the authors to focus on the Orco co-receptors, which are characterized by modifications of the binding pocket and the emergence of an extracellular loop that could explain the loss of the ability to bind odorant molecules. This part, which relies on in vitro experiments, is interesting and constitutes the most striking result of the study, which could in itself have been the subject of a separate manuscript. However, the molecular dynamics modelling does not add anything in the way it is conducted (5 ns is too short).

The rest of the manuscript is based on the prediction of OR response spectra using molecular docking. The work that has been carried out is extremely substantial, and the objective of linking clusters based on sequence similarity or 3D structural similarity with functional categories is entirely relevant. Nevertheless, I see two major problems with this in silico functional analysis:

(1) The docking score threshold used was chosen thoughtfully, which is very good, and according to the calculation performed, should ensure a true positive rate of more than 20%, which is excellent in such a docking analysis. But in the absence of functional validation, this 20% true positive rate is not sufficient to extrapolate OR function as the authors do in the remainder of the manuscript. The risk of error remains too high to compare in such detail the function of ORs from insects with different lifestyles or diets.

(2) The six functional clusters identified are only slightly different from one another, with similar detection of all chemical families except acids and amines (which was expected, given that these families are a priori detected by IRs rather than ORs). This shows that even though the approach is relevant and deserves to be tested, it cannot be used to establish a link between groups/lineages of ORs and response spectra at the scale of insects as a whole. This is reflected in the final analysis by the fact that there is no visible link between sequence or structural clusters and functional clusters. Given the uncertainty surrounding the docking results, the entire subsequent analysis of the relationship between the Binding Breadth Index and ecological variables is highly questionable.

Finally, the evolutionary analysis proposed to conclude that the work suffers from an incorrect interpretation: ORs of non-holometabolous insects cannot be considered equivalent to those of species that existed before the Permian-Triassic extinction. The fact that a locust or a cockroach has more narrowly tuned ORs than holometabolous insects does not mean that this was also the case for ancestral insects. To advance this type of conclusion, it would be necessary to conduct a phylogenetic analysis and reconstruct ancestral states, which is not the case here.

In summary, despite the large number of analyses performed, the authors do not succeed in achieving the stated objective of reconstructing the evolutionary history of insect ORs, and the results obtained do not sufficiently support the conclusions regarding the links between OR repertoires and environment or lifestyle.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

The remarkable evolvability of the olfactory system enables animals to rapidly adapt to dynamic and chemically complex environments. Over the past two decades, substantial effort has been devoted to uncovering the evolutionary principles that drive the diversification of odorant receptors (ORs), yielding key insights into the forces shaping their striking variability in both vertebrates and insects. In this manuscript, Zhang and colleagues analyze the OR repertoires of over 100 insect species, leveraging sequence and structural similarity to infer patterns of gene family evolution within this diverse and ecologically important clade. By integrating sequence-based and structure-based comparisons, their study builds on a compelling and recently emerging line of research made possible by the advent of AlphaFold, which has previously clarified the phylogenetic relationship between insect Ors and the gustatory receptor gene family and revealed the unexpectedly deep evolutionary origins of this ancient structural fold.

Applying this approach to a large set of ORs derived from species throughout the insect phylogeny, the authors confirm many previously reported patterns of OR evolution. Unfortunately, the way these results are presented lacks clarity in what is already known from previous work in the field versus what is a novel finding based on the analysis of this dataset.

It is unclear how complete the odorant receptor sets are. I recommend benchmarking the pipeline by comparing its output to a gold standard and a frequently vetted complete OR set, such as that of Robertson and Wanner 2006 or similar.

Using their structural clustering approach, the authors identify a structural feature mostly unique to the OR co-receptor ORco, a beta-sheet in EL2, which they functionally show reduces odorant binding affinity - a key aspect of ORco, which does not bind ligands in the ancestral ligand-binding site. This is a particularly strong part of the manuscript, since the authors support their in silico-derived hypothesis with functional data.

Lastly, in an attempt to assess the relationship between sequence identity and structure on one hand and function on the other, the authors perform an in silico structure prediction and chemical docking analysis. As it stands, this part is on the more speculative side since the docking approach has not been verified with available functional datasets.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

Dancausse et al. investigate behavioral responses to nicotine exposure in Drosophila larvae. They discover that high concentrations of nicotine lead to less movement and twitching, which recover slowly after several hours. Exposure to lower concentrations, however, increases locomotion and leads to hyperactive behavior. The authors also perform pharmacological and genetic manipulations to address the role of dopamine for these behavioral changes. Additionally, they test the role of MB intrinsic neurons by genetic silencing. Both Dopamine and MB manipulations affect responses to nicotine exposure. Finally, they investigate how larvae respond to repeated exposures to nicotine and find that they do not habituate. Additionally, repeated exposure to nicotine leads to a preference towards higher concentrations in a gradient assay.

Strengths:

The authors use rigorous behavioral analysis and discover interesting concentration and experience-dependent effects of nicotine exposure on locomotion in fly larvae, which will be worth investigating in the future to decipher the underlying neural mechanism.

Weaknesses:

As the manuscript currently stands, the results of genetic manipulations are hard to interpret and rather inconclusive. The genetic manipulations have been performed using broadly expressing genetic driver lines, which weakens the conclusions drawn by the authors. Thus, no specific neural populations or brain regions have been discovered, and there is little insight into the underlying neural mechanism.

Based on gradient experiments, the authors suggest that fly larvae could serve as a model organism for addiction. This claim is quite strong, but no control experiments are shown for shorter exposure or a single exposure with a longer resting period before the gradient test. To compare this to addiction-like behaviors, more control experiments should be performed.

The authors should clarify better how experiments were performed in Materials and Methods. Generally, the authors perform novel behavioral analysis, which is not explained in enough detail. The nicotine concentration that has been used for most experiments is this a relevant concentration comparable to other studies? This information would be useful to put into context with other findings.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

CNS function relies on a balance of excitatory and inhibitory activity. Use of addictive stimulants such as nicotine results in a chronic imbalance of these activities, and often this activity acts through dopamine pathways. To address how stimulants cause dysfunctional signaling in the DA neurotransmitter system and how this impacts neural circuit activity and behavior, the authors of this study begin to establish Drosophila larvae as a model for studying nicotine exposure.

They focus on three questions:<br /> (1) In what ways does nicotine-driven hyperactivation modulate behavior?<br /> (2) What roles do neural circuits play in these responses?<br /> (3) What are the mechanisms of drug dependence and addiction-like plasticity?

To this end, the authors use high-resolution behavioral, genetic, and pharmacological methods.

The authors show that exposure to nicotine alters the behavioral repertoire of larval Drosophila, with effects that are long-lasting (hours) and dose-dependent. Most of the study uses a 5-minute exposure to "moderate" levels of nicotine because this dosage produces the greatest potentiation of larval crawling speed. Concomitant with increases in crawling speed, they find alterations in other behavioral parameters-crawl "efficiency" and turn rate are reduced; whereas head swings are faster and more likely to be accepted. They find that reducing the activity of dopaminergic neurons reverses the valence of behavioral change upon exposure to nicotine. For example, crawling speed is decreased upon nicotine exposure in a Ple>Kir2.1 manipulation in comparison to controls. Moreover, they demonstrate that the effect of nicotine on the quantified set of behaviors depends on dopamine signaling. Beyond implicating dopamine signaling, they implicate the mushroom body, and particularly the gamma-neurons, in mediating exposure to nicotine.

The authors further probe how nicotine exposure alters larval behavior. First, they determine what happens to crawling speed with multiple exposures, finding sustained higher crawling speeds relative to controls. Second, as a model for addition-like behavior, they examine larval behavior on a nicotine gradient after repeated nicotine exposure. The data in Figure 7D are particularly compelling, showing that after nicotine exposure, larvae prefer high concentrations of nicotine.

Strengths:

In a concise set of experiments, the authors demonstrate a nicotine-induced behavioral change, its interaction with a neurotransmitter system, and a locus of action within the CNS. Thus, the authors set the stage for the use of Drosophila larvae as a model to better understand addiction-related behaviors.

Weaknesses:

This is a clear advance for the field of larval neurogenetics, but the extent to which it changes the way we think about nicotine exposure more generally is less clear. Nonetheless, the authors clearly achieved the goal they set out to attain.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

Summary:

Dancausse et al. examine behavioral responses to nicotine administration in larvae. The study first distinguishes between spasms and extreme hyperexcitability elicited at high doses from a hyperactivity state triggered at lower (~1 mM feeding) doses. They then focus on the hyperactivity state and examine if dopaminergic neuron function is involved (via transgenic and pharmacological manipulations). Next, the role of the Mushroom body, a site of integration in the larval brain, is interrogated. In these studies, the authors use multiple approaches to draw complementary conclusions. The last section examines the effect of repeated nicotine exposure and of nicotine preference following repeated exposure. The findings are foundational for future studies looking to use Drosophila larvae as a system to study nicotine addiction.

Strengths:

Overall, I think the study is of broad importance. The neurogenetics community gets valuable insight into how ACh excitation interplays with DA signaling to regulate movement. For the addiction community, the work describes a valuable system to further interrogate genetic and environmental factors potentially driving addiction under well-controlled conditions. The quantitative analysis is generally well done, and the use of multiple experimental strategies to buttress conclusions is commendable.

Weaknesses:

(1) Conceptual point. Insects use ACh as the primary excitatory neurotransmitter, with nAChRs broadly expressed, while vertebrates use Glutamate in this role. (Arguably, nicotine expression in tobacco plants evolved as an insecticide, broadly disrupting the central excitatory neurotransmitter.) In vertebrates, central ACh neurons are relatively sparse - primarily originating from the basal forebrain.

Based on these distinctions, it is important to consider/contrast nicotine-driven hyperexcitation from other methods to produce broad hyperexcitation (e.g., inhibition of GABA, high K+, elevated temperature, etc). Many of these methods to induce hyperexcitability would also modulate DA circuitry.

A discussion of the role of ACh in insect vs. vertebrate brains is necessary to interpret the experimental design and findings with regard to addiction. These points should be addressed in the intro and discussion.

(2) (Figure 1) Relatedly, how do the behaviors elicited in Figure 1B (30 or 60 mM) compare to the convulsions described following electroshock stimulation to induce a seizure? My suspicion is that you're essentially triggering a seizure (or seizures) in these larvae.

(3) (Figure 4) Is a statistical analysis between the CS, Ple>Kir, Ple, and Kir locomotion at baseline done? Presumably, these manipulations would alter the intrinsic activity levels of the larvae?

(4) (General quantitative question) How do the parameters co-vary across individuals following nicotine admin? Crawl speed and peristalsis frequency are analyzed. Turning doesn't seem to be considered. Do individuals that show large increases in velocity also show the largest reductions in turn rate? Are these relations preserved following the DA metabolism and MB function interventions?

(5) (Discussion / general question) Beyond DA, other monoamines are involved in regulating larval locomotion - OA and TA are a clear example from Fox et al. (2006). Could the authors comment on whether they would expect similar findings in other neurotransmitter systems or if these neurotransmitter systems are involved in the ACh -> DA interplay studied here?

(6) (Discussion) Following the establishment of nicotine preference, do larvae exhibit signs of 'withdrawal' or changes in baseline behavior when deprived of nicotine? For example, in Figure 6, does the speed following nic administration ever 'go below' the H2O line?

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

In this manuscript, the authors investigate how the anterior claustrum may integrate temporally separated task-relevant signals to guide behavior in a delayed escape paradigm. Because in vivo neural recordings from claustrum during this task are extremely limited-comprising single-trial data with small neuronal samples-the authors adopt a modeling-driven approach. They train recurrent neural networks (RNNs) using only behavioral data (escape latency) to reproduce task performance and then analyze the internal dynamics of the trained networks. Within these networks, they identify a subset of units whose activity exhibits persistent responses and strong correlations with behavior, which the authors label as "claustrum-like." Using dimensionality reduction, decoding, and information-theoretic analyses, they argue that these units dynamically integrate conditioned stimulus (CS) and door-opening signals via nonlinear, trajectory-based population dynamics rather than fixed-point attractor states.

To bridge model predictions and biology, the authors complement the modeling with in vitro slice experiments demonstrating recurrent excitatory connectivity and prolonged activity in the anterior claustrum that depends on glutamatergic transmission. They further compare latent neural trajectories derived from previously published in vivo claustrum recordings to those observed in the RNN, reporting qualitative similarities. Based on these results, the authors propose that the claustrum implements temporal signal integration through recurrent excitatory circuitry and dynamic population trajectories, potentially supporting broader theories of integrative brain function.

Strengths:

This study addresses an important and challenging problem: how to infer population-level computation in a brain structure for which in vivo data are sparse and experimentally constrained. The authors are commendably transparent about these limitations and seek to overcome them through a principled modeling framework. The integration of behavioral modeling, RNN analysis, and slice electrophysiology is ambitious and technically sophisticated.

Several aspects stand out as strengths. First, the behavioral RNN is carefully trained and interrogated using a rich set of modern analytical tools, including cross-temporal decoding, trajectory analysis, and partial information decomposition, providing multiple complementary views of network dynamics. Second, the slice experiments convincingly demonstrate recurrent excitatory connectivity in anterior claustrum, lending biological plausibility to the model's reliance on recurrent dynamics. Third, the manuscript is clearly written, logically organized, and conceptually engaging, and it offers a coherent mechanistic hypothesis that could guide future large-scale recording experiments.

Importantly, the work has significant heuristic value: rather than merely fitting data, it attempts to generate testable computational ideas about claustral function in a regime where direct empirical access is currently limited.

Weaknesses:

Despite these strengths, the manuscript suffers from a recurring and substantial conceptual issue: systematic over-interpretation of model-data correspondence. While the modeling results are potentially insightful, the extent to which they are presented as recapitulating real claustral neural mechanisms goes beyond what the available data can support.

A fundamental limitation is that the RNN is trained solely on behavioral output, without being constrained by neural data at either single-unit or population levels. As a result, the internal network dynamics are underdetermined and non-unique. Many distinct internal solutions could plausibly generate identical behavior. However, the manuscript frequently treats the specific internal solution discovered in the RNN as if it were a close approximation of the actual claustrum circuit.

This issue is compounded by the sparse nature of the in vivo data used for comparison. The GPFA-based trajectory analyses rely on pseudo-populations and single-trial recordings, yet are interpreted as evidence for robust population-level dynamics. Because neurons were not recorded simultaneously, the inferred trajectories necessarily lack true population covariance and shared trial-to-trial variability, limiting their interpretability as genuine population dynamics. Similarly, conclusions about trajectory-based versus attractor-based computation are drawn almost exclusively from model analyses and then generalized to the biological system.

Overall, while the modeling framework is appropriate as a hypothesis-generating tool, the manuscript repeatedly crosses the line from proposing plausible mechanisms to asserting explanatory or even causal equivalence between the model and the brain. This undermines the otherwise strong contributions of the work.

Below are several specific points that warrant further clarification or revision:

(1) Tone of model-data correspondence

Numerous statements describe the RNN as "closely mimicking," "recapitulating," or being "nearly identical" to claustral neural dynamics, sometimes extending to claims about causal relationships between neural activity and behavior. Given that neural data were not used to train the model, and that only a small subset of trained networks showed the reported dynamics, these statements should be substantially softened throughout the manuscript. The RNN should be framed as providing one possible computational realization consistent with existing data, not as a close instantiation of the biological circuit.

(2) Non-uniqueness of RNN solutions

The fact that only a small fraction of trained networks exhibited "claustrum-like" clusters deserves deeper discussion. This observation raises the possibility that the identified solution is fragile or highly specific rather than canonical. The authors should explicitly discuss the non-uniqueness of internal solutions in behavior-trained RNNs, including the range of alternative network dynamics that can reproduce the same behavior. In particular, it should be clarified why the specific network exhibiting "claustrum-like" clusters is informative about claustral computation, rather than representing one arbitrary solution among many.

(3) GPFA trajectory comparisons

The qualitative similarity between RNN trajectories and GPFA-derived trajectories from sparse in vivo data is interesting but insufficient to support claims of robustness or population-level structure. Statements suggesting that these patterns are unlikely to arise from noise or random fluctuations are not justified given the single-trial, pseudo-population nature of the data. Either additional quantitative controls should be added, or the interpretation should be substantially tempered.

(4) Scope of functional claims

The discussion connecting the findings to broad theories of claustral function, global workspace, or consciousness extends well beyond the data presented. These speculative links should be clearly labeled as such and significantly reduced in strength and prominence.

The manuscript repeatedly describes the delayed escape task as an "inference-based behavioral paradigm" and states that animals "infer that a value-neutral alternative space is likely to be safer" when the CS is presented in a novel environment. While I appreciate that the US-CS association was established in a different context and that the CS is then presented in a new environment, I am not convinced that the current behavioral evidence uniquely supports an inference interpretation.

First, it is not clear that this task is widely recognized in the literature as a canonical inference task, in the sense of, for example, sensory preconditioning, transitive inference, or model-based inference paradigms. Rather, the observed effect-that CS animals escape faster to a neutral compartment than neutral-CS controls-can be parsimoniously interpreted in terms of generalized threat value, heightened fear/anxiety, or a bias toward avoidance/escape under elevated threat, without requiring an explicit inferential step about the specific safety of the alternative compartment. The fact that no prior training is needed is compatible with flexible generalization, but does not by itself demonstrate inference in a more formal computational sense.

Second, the inference claim becomes central to the manuscript's conceptual framing (e.g., the idea that rsCla supports "inference-based escape"), yet the behavioral analyses presented here and in the cited prior work do not clearly rule out simpler accounts. Clarifying this distinction would help avoid overstating both the inferential nature of the behavior and the specific role of rsCla and the RNN's "claustrum-like" cluster in supporting inference per se, as opposed to more general integration of threat-related signals with an opportunity for escape.

This manuscript presents an interesting and potentially valuable modeling-based framework for thinking about temporal integration in the claustrum, supported by solid slice physiology. However, in its current form, it overstates the degree to which the proposed RNN dynamics reflect actual claustral neural mechanisms. With substantial revision-especially a more cautious interpretation of model-data similarity and a clearer articulation of modeling limitations-the study could make a meaningful contribution as a hypothesis-generating work rather than a definitive mechanistic account.

Comments on revisions:

The authors have carefully addressed the concerns raised in the initial review. In particular, the manuscript has been substantially improved in terms of tone, conceptual clarity, and the interpretation of the modeling results. The revised version now presents a well-balanced and appropriately framed account of the work.

The study offers a compelling and useful hypothesis-generating framework for understanding temporal integration in the claustrum, and I support its publication. As a minor point, given the acknowledged limitations of pseudo-population and single-trial data, it would be preferable to slightly soften a few remaining statements that describe trajectory structure as directly "reflecting" population-level dynamics (e.g., using "consistent with" instead).

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

This manuscript reports the behavior of a computational model of rat claustral neurons during the performance of a behavioral task known as the delayed escape task (in this reviewer's understanding, this behavioral task was created and implemented by this group only). These authors have argued in a prior manuscript (Han et al.) that a group of neurons located "rostral to striatum" are part of the claustrum. The group names the region the "rostral to striatum claustrum." Additionally, in the Han et al. paper, the authors argue that these cells are responsible for maintaining a signal that lasts through the delay period.

The main findings of the current paper are:

(1) The authors have built a model network that was trained to show firing similar to what was reported for rats in their prior paper.

(2) The authors' analysis of model behavior is used to suggest that the model network recapitulates biological activity, including the existence of a cluster of cells mainly responsible for the delay period firing.

(3) The authors offer evidence from patch clamp recordings for excitatory interconnections among claustral neurons that are an essential feature of the model network.

A major value of the computational network is that "trials" of the network can be performed. In experiments on animals, only single trials can be used.

Concerns:

(1) This paper is based on behavioral results and neural recordings from their prior paper (Han et al.), but data, e.g. in figure 1, are not clearly identified as new or as coming from that source. Figure 1A, for example, appears to be taken directly from Han et al. No methods are given in this manuscript for the behavioral testing or the in vivo electrophysiology.

(2) Many other details are unclear. Examples include model training, the weight matrices and how these changed with training (p. 13), the equations 2 and 3 (p. 13), the sources for the constants in the equations (p. 14), the methods (anesthesia, stereotaxic coordinates, injection specifics and details for "sparse expression") for the ChrimsonR injections.

(3) The explorations of model behavior are a catalog of everything tried rather than an organized demonstration of what the model can and cannot do. The figures could be reduced in number to emphasize the key comparisons of the different clusters and the model's behavior under different conditions intended to "test" the model.

(4) On page 6, the E-E connectivity is argued from Shelton et al. (2025) and against Kim et al. (2016), but ignores Orman (2015), which to this reviewer's knowledge was the first to demonstrate such connectivity, including the long duration events and impact of planes of section.

(5) Whereas the authors are entitled to their own opinion of prior work (references 3-8), it is inappropriate to misrepresent prior work as only demonstrating a "limited function" of claustum. Additional papers by Mathur's group and Citri's group are ignored.

In summary, the authors have made a computational model that recapitulates the firing of a subset of potentially claustral neurons during a particular behavioral task (delayed escape is certainly not the only behavior that involves claustrum - see e.g., attention, salience, sleep). If the conclusion is that excitatory claustral cells must be connected to other excitatory claustral cells, such a conclusion is not new and the electrophysiological E-E metrics are not well quantified (e.g., connectivity frequency, strength of connection). If the model is intended to predict how claustrum might accomplish any other task, there is insufficient detail to evaluate the model beyond the evidence that the model creates a subset of cells that can sustain firing during the delay period in the delayed escape task.

All relevant work must be appropriately cited throughout the manuscript.

Comments on revisions:

The authors have adequately addressed the concerns that were raised in response to the first version of the manuscript.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

This study presents a novel toolkit for visualizing and manipulating neurotransmitter-specific vesicles in C. elegans neurons, addressing the challenge of tracking neurotransmitter dynamics at the level of individual synapses. The authors engineered endogenously tagged vesicular transporters for glutamate, GABA, acetylcholine, and monoamines, enabling cell-specific labeling while maintaining physiological function. Additionally, they developed conditional knockout strains to disrupt neurotransmitter synthesis in single neurons. The study reveals that over 10% of neurons in C. elegans exhibit co-transmission, with a detailed case study on the ADF sensory neuron, where serotonin and acetylcholine are trafficked in distinct vesicle pools. The approach provides a powerful platform for studying neurotransmitter identity, synaptic architecture, and co-transmission.

Strengths:

(1) This toolkit offers a generalizable framework that can be applied to other model organisms, advancing the ability to investigate synaptic plasticity and neural circuit logic with molecular precision.

(2) The use of this toolkit, the authors uncover molecular heterogeneity at individual synapses, revealing co-transmission in over 10% of neurons, and offers new insights into neurotransmitter trafficking and synaptic plasticity, advancing our understanding of synaptic organization.

Weaknesses:

(1) While the article introduces valuable tools for visualizing neurotransmitter vesicles in vivo, the core techniques are based on previously established methods. The study does not present significant technological breakthroughs, limiting the novelty of the methodological advancements.

(2) The article does not fully explore the potential implications or the underlying mechanisms governing this process, while the discovery of co-transmission in over 10% of neurons is an intriguing finding. A deeper investigation into the functional uniqueness and interactions of neurotransmitters released from individual co-transmitting neurons-perhaps through case study example-would strengthen the study's impact.

Comments on revisions:

I have no further questions regarding this work. I would like to congratulate the authors on the forthcoming publication of their manuscript. This study presents a versatile methodological framework with strong potential to advance the field of neuroscience, particularly in dissecting neural circuit function and neurotransmission dynamics in vivo.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

In this manuscript, the authors developed fluorescent reporters to visualize the subcellular localization of vesicular transporters for glutamate, GABA, acetylcholine, and monoamines in vivo. They also developed cell-specific knockout methods for these vesicular transporters. To my knowledge, this is the first comprehensive toolkit to label and ablate vesicular transporters in C. elegans. They carefully and strategically designed the reporters, and clearly explained the rationale behind their construct designs. Meanwhile, they used previously established functional assays to confirm that the reporters are functional. They also tested and confirmed the effect of cell-specific and pan-neuronal knockout of several of these transporters.

Strengths:

The tools developed are versatile: they generated both green and red fluorescent reporters for easy combination with other reporters; they established the method for cell-type specific KO to analyze function of the neurotransmitter in different cell types. The reagents allow visualization of specific synapses among other processes and cell bodies. In addition, they also developed a binary expression method to detect co-transmission "We reasoned that if two neurotransmitters were co-expressed in the same neuron, driving Flippase under the promoter of one transmitter would activate the conditional reporter-resulting in fluorescence-only in cells also expressing a second neurotransmitter identity". Overall, this is a versatile and valuable toolkit with well-designed and carefully validated reagents. This toolkit will likely be widely used by the C. elegans community.

Comments on revisions:

The authors addressed my questions in the revised manuscript.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

Summary:

Cuentas-Condori et al. generate cell-specific tools for visualizing the endogenous expression of, as well as knocking out, four different classes of neurotransmitter vesicular transporters (glutamatergic, cholinergic, gabaergic and monoaminergic) in C. elegans. They then use these tools in an intersectional strategy to provide evidence for the co-expression of these transporters in individual neurons, suggesting co-transmission of the associated neurotransmitters.

Strengths:

A major strength of the work is the generation of several endogenous tools that will be of use to the community. Additionally, this adds to accumulating evidence of co-transmission of different classes of neurotransmitters in the nervous system.

Another strength is the comparison to previously published single cell sequencing data and other previously published data.

Weaknesses:

Co-expression of these transporters is not in and of itself sufficient to establish neurotransmitter co-release, but this caveat is acknowledged by the authors.

Comments on revisions:

The authors have addressed all of my previous concerns.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

Ma et al. show that melanoma cells induce an EMT-like state in nearby keratinocytes and that when this state is induced experimentally by Twist-overexpression the resulting alteration in keratinocytes is inhibitory for melanoma invasion. These conclusions are based on experiments in vivo with zebrafish and, in vitro, with human cells. The work is carefully done and provides new insights into the interactions between melanoma cells and their environment.

Strengths:

Use of both zebrafish and human cells adds confidence that findings are relevant to human melanomas while also further demonstrating utility of the zebrafish system for discovering important new features of melanoma biology that could ultimately have clinical impacts. The work also combines a nice suite of approaches including different models for induced melanomagenesis in zebrafish, single cell RNA-sequencing, and more. Some of the final observations are intriguing as well, especially the possibility of EMT induced melanocyte-keratinocyte interactions via Jam3 expression; it will be interesting to see if these is indeed a mechanism for restraining melanoma invasion. The paper is clearly written and the inferences appropriate for the results obtained. Overall the work makes a solid contribution to our understanding of important, but too often neglected, roles of the tumor microenvironment in promoting or inhibiting tumor progression and outcome.

Weaknesses:

No critical weaknesses noted.

Comments on revisions:

The authors have adequately addressed my comments and concerns.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

Manuscript by Ma et. al. utilizes a zebrafish melanoma model, single-cell RNA sequencing (scRNA-seq), a mammalian in vitro co-culture system, and quantitative PCR (Q-PCR) gene expression analysis to investigate the role keratinocytes might play within the melanoma microenvironment. Convincing evidence is presented from scRNA-seq analysis showing that a small cluster of melanoma-associated keratinocytes upregulate the master EMT regulator, transcription factor, Twist1a. To investigate how Twist-expressing keratinocytes might influence melanoma development, the authors use an in vivo zebrafish model to induce melanoma initiation while overexpressing Twist in keratinocytes through somatic transgene expression. This approach reveals that Twist overexpression in keratinocytes suppresses invasive melanoma growth. Using a complementary in vitro human cell line co-culture model, the authors demonstrate reduced migration of melanoma cells into the keratinocyte monolayer when keratinocytes overexpress Twist. Further scRNA-seq analysis of zebrafish melanoma tissues reveal that, in the presence of Twist-expressing keratinocytes, subpopulations of melanoma cells show altered gene expression, with one unique melanoma cell cluster appearing more terminally differentiated. The authors use computational methods to predict putative receptor-ligand pairs that might mediate the interaction between Twist-expressing keratinocytes and melanoma cells. Finally the authors established that similar keratinocyte phentypical changes also occurs in human melanoma tissues, setting a scene for future clinically relevant studies.

Strengths:

The scRNA-seq approach reveals a small proportion of keratinocytes undergoing EMT within melanoma tissue. The use of a zebrafish somatic transgenic model to study melanoma initiation and progression provides an opportunity to manipulate host cells within the melanoma microenvironment and evaluate their impact on tumour progression. Solid data demonstrate that Twist-expressing keratinocytes can constrain melanoma invasive development in vivo and reduce melanoma cell migration in vitro, establishing that Twist-overexpressing keratinocytes can suppress at least one aspect of tumour progression. Using GeoMX spatial transcriptomics platform to interrogate a series of early melanoma precursor lesions, enabled the authors to demonstrate similar EMT phenotype in keratinocytes also occurs in humans.

Weaknesses:

Due to limitations of the current model, no EMT marker gene expression was examined in melanoma tissue sections to determine the proportion and localization of Twist+ve keratinocytes within the melanoma microenvironment. However the authors compensated this through using spatial transcriptomics platform to interrogate a series of early melanoma precursor lesions in humans.

Due to technical limitations, it remain to be determined whether blocking EMT through down-regulation of Twist in keratinocytes may influence melanoma development.

Due to technical limitations, none of the gene expression changes detected through Q-PCR or scRNA-seq were examined using immunostaining or in situ hybridization, hence cellular resolution spatial information is lacking.

Overall, the data presented in this report draw attention to a less-studied host cell type within the tumour microenvironment, the keratinocytes, which, similar to well-studied immune cells and fibroblasts, could play important roles in either promoting or constraining melanoma development. Counterintuitively, the authors show that Twist-expressing EMT keratinocytes can constrain melanoma progression. While the detailed mechanisms remain to be uncovered, this is an exciting new line of research that warrant future studies.

Comments on revisions:

The authors have provided additional evidence to support their original conclusions, and the inclusion of spatial transcriptomic analysis using human samples strengthens the study. I did not identify any further issues that require attention.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

Summary:

In this study the authors use the zebrafish model and in vitro co-cultures with human cell lines, to study how keratinocytes modulate the early stages of melanoma development/migration. The authors demonstrate that keratinocytes undergo an EMT-like transformation in the presence of melanoma cells which lead to a reduction in melanoma cell migration. This EMT transformation occurs via Twist; and resulted in an improvement in OS in zebrafish melanoma models. Authors suggest that the limitation of melanoma cell migration by Twist-overexpressing keratinocytes was through altered cell-cell interactions (Jam3b) that caused a physical blockage of melanoma cell migration.

Strengths:

Authors describe a new cross-talk between melanoma and its major initial microenvironment: the keratinocytes and how instructed by melanoma cells keratinocytes undergo an EMT transformation, which then controls melanoma migration.<br /> Overall, the paper is very well written, and the results are clearly organized and presented.

Weaknesses:

(1) To really show their last point it would be important to CRISPR KO Jam3b in melanoma with twist OE keratinocytes, in vivo or in vitro.

(2) Use of patient biopsies from early-stage melanomas vs healthy tissue to assess if there is a similar alteration of morphology of adjacent keratinocytes and increase in vimentin in human samples would strengthen the author's findings.

(3) Characterise better the cell-cell junctions and borders between cells (melanoma/ keratinocytes) with cellular and sub-cellular resolution. Since melanocytes can "touch" with their dendrites ~40 keratinocytes - can authors expand and explain better their model? Can this explain that in some images we cannot observe a direct interface between the cells?

Comments on revisions:

The authors answered most of the concerns raised.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

The manuscript provides several important findings that advance our current knowledge about the function of the gustatory cortex (GC). The authors used high density electrophysiology to record neural activity during a sucrose/NaCl mixture discrimination task. They observed population-based activity capable of representing different mixtures in a linear fashion during the initial stimulus sampling period as well as representing the behavioral decision (i.e., lick left or right) at a later time point. Analyzing this data at the single neuron level, they observed functional subpopulations capable of encoding the specific mixture (e.g., 45/55), tastant (e.g., sucrose), and behavioral choice (e.g., lick left). To test the functional consequences of these subpopulations, they built a recurrent neural network model in order to "silence" specific functional subpopulations of GC neurons. The virtual ablation of these functional subpopulations altered virtual behavioral performance in a manner predicted by the subpopulation's presumed contribution.

Strengths:

Building a recurrent neural network model of the gustatory cortex allows the impact of the temporal sequence of functionally identifiable populations of neurons to be tested in a manner not otherwise possible. Specifically, the author's model links neural activity at the single neuron and population level with perceptual ability. The electrophysiology methods and analyses used to shape the network model are appropriate. Overall, the conclusions of the manuscript are well supported.

Weaknesses:

One minor weakness is the mismatch between the neural analyses and behavioral data. Neural analyses (i.e. population activity trajectories) indicate a separation of the neural activity associated with each mixture. Given this analysis, one might expect the psychometric curve to have a significantly steeper slope. One potential explanation is the concentration of the stimuli utilized in the mixture discrimination task. The authors utilize equivalent concentrations, rather than intensity matched concentrations. In this case, a single stimulus can (theoretically) dominant the perception of a mixture resulting in a biased behavioral response despite accurate concentration coding. Given the difficulty of iso-intensity matching concentrations, this concern is not paramount.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Lang et al. investigate the contribution of individual neuronal encoding of specific task features to population dynamics and behavior. Using a taste based decision-making behavioral task with electrophysiology from the mouse gustatory cortex and computational modeling, the authors reveal that neurons encoding sensory, perceptual, and decision-related information with linear and categorical patterns are essential for driving neural population dynamics and behavioral performance. Their findings suggest that individual linear and categorical coding units have a significant role in cortical dynamics and perceptual decision-making behavior.

Overall, the experimental and analytical work is of very high quality, and the findings are of great interest to the taste coding field, as well as to the broader systems neuroscience field.

I initially had some suggestions for further analyses to clarify the contribution of constrained and unconstrained units. In the revised version, the authors have performed all the suggested analyses, further strengthening their conclusions.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

Primary taste cortex neurons show a variety of dynamic response profiles during taste decision making tasks, reflecting both sensory and decision variables. In the present study, Lang et al., set out to determine how neurons with distinct response profiles contribute to perceptual decisions about taste stimuli.

The methods with regard to the behavioral task and electrophysiological recordings/data analysis are straightforward, solid and appropriate. The computational model is presented in a clear and conceptually intuitive manner, although the details are outside of my area of expertise.

The experimental design features a simple 2-alternative forced choice task that yielded clear psychometric curves across a range of stimuli. In vivo recordings were performed using neuropixels and yielded an appropriate sample of single neuron responses. The strength of the model lies in the fact that it consists of single neurons whose response profiles mimic those recorded in vivo, and allows neuron-selective manipulation.

By virtually lesioning specific subsets of neurons in the network, the authors demonstrate that a relatively small populations of neurons with specific tuning profiles were sufficient to produce the observed neural dynamics and behavioral responses. This effect was selective as lesioning other responsive neurons did not affect overall response dynamics or performance.

These findings provide new insight into the relation between the response profiles of single neurons in sensory cortex, their population-level activity dynamics, and the perceptual decisions they inform.

The approach is particularly innovative as it uses computational modeling to target functionally-defined "cell types", which cannot necessarily be targeted by more conventional genetic approaches.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

This paper characterises the physiological and computational underpinnings of the accumulation of intermittent glimpses of sensory evidence, with a focus on the centroparietal positivity and motor beta lateralization. The main finding is that the centroparietal positivity builds up during evidence accumulation but falls back to baseline during gaps, while motor beta lateralization maintains a continuous a sustained representation throughout the gap and until response.

Strengths:

- Elegant combination of electroencephalography and computational modelling.

- Innovative task design, including parametric manipulation of gap duration.

- The authors describe results of two separate experiments, with very similar results, in effect providing an internal replication.

Weaknesses:

- A direct characterization of how the centroparietal positivity and motor beta lateralization interact is missing, which limits the novelty. In their reply to reviewers, the authors argue that the signal-to-noise ratio of EEG signals is insufficient for such analyses at the single-trial level. If so, a binned or trial-averaged approach could still be attempted.

- An exhaustive characterisation of sensors and frequency bands is also missing. In their reply to reviewers, the authors suggest that this would detract from their hypothesis-driven focus. I disagree: the main hypothesis and figures could remain centred on the centroparietal positivity and motor beta lateralization, with a more comprehensive mapping of sensors and frequencies placed in supplementary material. Since the purpose of the paper is to examine EEG-based decision signals in a novel behavioural context, a broader characterisation of the underlying EEG landscape would seem appropriate.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

This manuscript examines decision-making in a context where the information for the decision is not continuous, but separated by a short temporal gap. The authors use a standard motion direction discrimination task over two discrete dot motion pulses (but unlike previous experiments, fill the gaps in evidence with 0-coherence random dot motion of differently coloured dots). Previous studies using this task (Kiani et al., 2013; Tohidi-Moghaddam et al., 2019; Azizi et al., 2021; 2023) or other discrete sample stimuli (Cheadle et al., 2014; Wyart et al., 2015; Golmohamadian et al., 2025) have shown decision-makers to integrate evidence from multiple samples (although with some flexible weighting on each sample). In this experiment, decision-makers tended not to use the second motion pulse for their decision. This allows the separation of neural signatures of momentary decision-evidence samples from the accumulated decision-evidence. In this context, classic electroencephalography signatures of accumulated decision-evidence (central-parietal positivity) are shown to reflect the momentary decision-evidence samples.

Strengths:

The authors present an excellent analysis of the data in support of their findings. In terms of proportion correct, participants show poorer performance than predicted if assuming both evidence samples were integrated perfectly. A regression analysis suggested a weaker weight on the second pulse, and in line with this, the authors show an effect of the order of pulse strength that is reversed compared to previous studies: A stronger second pulse resulted in worse performance than a stronger first pulse (this is in line with the visual condition reported in Golmohamadian et al., 2025). The authors also show smaller changes in electrophysiological signatures of decision-making (central parietal positivity, and lateralised motor beta power) in response to the second pulse. The authors describe these findings with a computational model which allows for early decision-commitment, meaning the second pulse is ignored on the majority of trials. The model-predicted electrophysiological components describe the data well. In particular, this analysis of model-predicted electrophysiology is impressive in providing simple and clear predictions for understanding the data.

Weaknesses:

Some readers may be left questioning why behaviour in this experiment is so different from previous experiments which use almost exactly the same design (Kiani et al., 2013; Tohidi-Moghaddam et al., 2019; Azizi et al., 2021; 2023). Overall performance in this experiment was much worse than previous experiments: Participants achieved ~85% correct following 400 ms of 33 - 45% coherent motion. In previous work, performance was ~90% correct following 240ms of 12.8% coherent motion. A second weakness is that, while the authors present a model which describes the data based on pre-mature decision-commitment, they do not examine explanations from the existing literature, that evidence is flexibly weighted, and do not provide any analyses which could be used to compare these descriptions. While their model can describe the data in this manuscript, it cannot explain the data from previous experiments showing a stronger weight on the second pulse.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

[Editors' note: this version has been assessed by the Reviewing Editor without further input from the original reviewers. The authors have addressed the comments raised in the previous round of review.]

Summary:

This study addresses the important question of how top-down cognitive processes affect tactile perception in autism - specifically, in the Fmr1-/y genetic mouse model of autism. Using a 2AFC tactile task in behaving mice, the study investigated multiple aspects of perceptual processing, including perceptual learning, stimulus categorization and discrimination, as well as the influence of prior experience and attention.

Strengths:

The experiments seem well performed, with interesting results. Thus, this study can/will advance our understanding of atypical tactile perception and its relation to cognitive factors in autism.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

This manuscript presents a tactile categorization task in head-fixed mice to test whether Fmr1 knockout mice display differences in vibrotactile discrimination using the forepaw. Tactile discrimination differences have been previously observed in humans with Fragile X Syndrome, autistic individuals, as well as mice with loss of Fmr1 across multiple studies. The authors show that during training, Fmr1 mutant mice display subtle deficits in perceptual learning of "low salience" stimuli, but not "high salience" stimuli, during the task. Following training, Fmr1 mutant mice displayed an enhanced tactile sensitivity under low-salience conditions but not high-salience stimulus conditions. The authors suggest that, under 'high cognitive load' conditions, Fmr1 mutant mouse performance during the lowest indentation stimuli presentations was affected, proposing an interplay of sensory and cognitive system disruptions that dynamically affect behavioral performance during the task.

Strengths:

The study employs a well-controlled vibrotactile discrimination task for head-fixed mice, which could serve as a platform for future mechanistic investigations. By examining performance across both training stages and stimulus "salience/difficulty" levels, the study provides a more nuanced view of how tactile processing deficits may emerge under different cognitive and sensory demands.

Weaknesses:

The study is primarily descriptive. The authors collect behavioral data and fit simple psychometric functions, but provide no neural recordings, causal manipulations, or computational modeling. Without mechanistic evidence, the conclusions remain speculative.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

Summary:

Developing consistent and reliable biomarkers is critically important for developing new pharmacological therapies in autism spectrum disorders (ASDs). Altered sensory perception is one of the hallmarks of autism and has been recently added to DSM-5 as one of the core symptoms of autism. Touch is one of the fundamental sensory modalities, yet it is currently understudied. Furthermore, there seems to be a discrepancy between different studies from different groups focusing on tactile discrimination. It is not clear if this discrepancy can be explained by different experimental setups, inconsistent terminology, or the heterogeneity of sensory processing alterations in ASDs. The authors aim to investigate the interplay between tactile discrimination and cognitive processes during perceptual decisions. They have developed a forepaw-based 2-alternative choice task for mice and investigated tactile perception and learning in Fmr1-/y mice

Strengths:

There are several strengths of this task: translational relevance to human psychophysical protocols, including controlled vibrotactile stimulation. In addition to the experimental setup, there are also several interesting findings: Fmr1-/y mice demonstrated choice consistency bias, which may result in impaired perceptual learning, and enhanced tactile discrimination in low-salience conditions, as well as attentional deficits with increased cognitive load. The increase in the error rates for low salience stimuli is interesting. These observations, together with the behavioral design, may have a promising translational potential and, if confirmed in humans, may be potentially used as biomarkers in ASD.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

It is well known that neurons in the medial prefrontal cortex (mPFC) are involved in higher cognitive functions such as executive planning, motivational processing and internal state mediated decision-making. These internal states often correlate with the emotional states of the brain. While several studies point to the role of mPFC in regulating behavior based on such emotional states, the diversity of information processing in its sub-populations remains a less explored territory. In this study, the authors try to address this gap by identifying and characterizing some of these sub-populations in mice using a combination of projection-specific imaging, function-based tagging of neurons, multiple behavioral assays and ex-vivo patch clamp recordings.

Strengths:

The authors targeted mPFC projections to the nucleus accumbens (NAc) and basolateral amygdala (BLA). Using the open field task (OFT), the authors identified four relevant behavioral states as well as neurons active while the animal was in the center region ("center-ON neurons"). By characterizing single unit activity and using dimensionality reduction, the authors show differentiated coding of behavioral events at both the projection and functional levels. They further substantiate this effect by showing higher sensitivity of mPFC-BLA center-ON neurons during time spent in the open arms of the elevated plus maze (EPM). The authors then pivoted to the three-chamber social interaction (SI) assay to show the different subsets of neurons encode preference of social stimulus over non-social. This reveals an interesting diversity in the function of these sub-populations on multiple levels. Lastly, the authors used the tube test as a manipulation of the anxiety state of mice and compared behavioral differences before/after in the OFT and social interaction tasks. This experiment revealed that "losers" of the tube test spend less time in the center of the open field while "winners" show a stronger preference for the familiar mouse over the object. Using patch-clamp experiments, the authors also found that "winners" exhibit stronger synaptic transmission in the mPFC-NAc projection while "losers" exhibit stronger synaptic transmission in the mPFC-BLA projection. Given the popularity of the tube test assay in rank determination, this provides useful insights into possible effects on anxiety levels and synaptic plasticity. Overall, the many experiments performed by the authors reveal interesting differences in mPFC neurons relative to their involvement in high or low anxiety behaviors, social preference and social rank.

Weaknesses:

The authors have addressed all comments.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

The goal of this proposal was to understand how two separate projection neurons from the medial prefrontal cortex, those innervating the basolateral amygdala (BLA ) and nucleus accumbens (NAc), contribute to the encoding of emotional behaviors. The authors record the activity of these different neuron classes across three different behavioral environments. They propose that, although both populations are involved in emotional behavior, the two populations have diverging activity patterns in certain contexts. A subset of projections to the NAc appear particularly important for social behavior. They then attempt to link these changes to the emotional state of the animal and changes in synaptic connectivity.

Strengths:

The behavioral data builds on previous studies of these projection neurons supporting distinct roles in behavior and extend upon previous work by looking at the heterogeneity within different projection neurons across contexts, this is important to understand the "neural code" within the PFC that contributes to such behaviours and how it is relayed to other brain structures.

Weaknesses:

The diversity of neurons mediating these projections and their targeting within the BLA and NAc is not explored. These are not homogeneous structures and so one possibility is that some of the diversity within their findings may relate to targeting of different sub-structures within BLA or NAc or the diversity of projection neuron subtypes that mediate these pathways. This is an important future direction for this work but does not detract from the main finding as reported. The electrophysiological data in Figure 7 have some experimental confounds that makes their interpretation challenging.

Comments on revisions:

The authors have improved the manuscript somewhat by refining their description of the results. However, the normalized EPSC experiments still do not make much sense. If you have a higher light intensity or LED duration the curve of the EPSC response will saturate earlier. Similarly, if you are in a highly, or poorly labeled slice or subregion of a slice then you will see responses emerge at different intensities based on the number of synapses labelled. There is no standardization in the way these experiments were performed, so performing some arbitrary post hoc normalisation does not correct for this. Similarly, they also place the fibreoptic manually above the slice each time. This makes it much harder to determine the actual light intensity delivered to the slice on a cell by cell and group by group basis.

I have reduced my public statement from significant experimental confounds, to some experimental confounds. But the way the experiments were performed does not allow the normalized data to really be interpretable. They still argue that normalized EPSCs are relatively larger. I don't even really understand what this means biologically.

The subsequent rise/decay and other measures is now better described. However, they note that the decay constant is larger. This means that the kinetics are slower, not enhanced, as they describe.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

This manuscript examines the evolution of molluscan shells using single-cell analyses of the adult mantle of Crassostrea gigas and compares these data with previous datasets from embryonic and larval stages of this species and other spiralians. The authors provide support for a scenario in which secretory cells are broadly conserved across spiralians, and the incorporation of lineage-restricted genes contributes to the evolution of molluscan shells.

Strengths:

High-quality datasets for mantle tissue in Crassostrea gigas and thorough comparisons with existing datasets for this species and other spiralians. Balanced discussion.

Weaknesses:

No major weaknesses. The analyses follow fairly standard approaches in the field that have been previously applied and developed in similar systems.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

Bai et al. present in their study three single-cell RNA seq datasets derived from gastrulae, trochophores, and adults of the bivalve Crassostrea gigas. While a dataset on the oyster trochophore has already been published previously (Piovani et al. 2023), the gastrula and adult datasets have not been published yet. The authors conclude that cell types secreting the oyster shell valves use a genetic repertoire that is also used by epithelial and secretory cell types of very different spiralians, such as annelids, chaetognaths and flatworms.

Strengths:

The study provides new single-cell datasets from multiple developmental stages of an oyster, offering a valuable resource for the field. It takes a broad comparative approach using state-of-the-art techniques across diverse animal groups and addresses an important question regarding the origin and evolution of shell-forming cell types.

Weaknesses & suggestions to improve the manuscript:

(1) Validation of cell types

Cell type identities are not convincingly validated. Although the authors cite previous studies (l. 92), the referenced marker genes are largely not used, and the cited works do not provide sufficient spatial validation. Without in situ data, the inferred locations of cell types (e.g. Figure 2A) are not supported. Spatial validation of marker genes (e.g. via HCR) is essential, particularly for a study addressing shell field evolution. In addition, the gastrula dataset is not meaningfully analyzed, and its inclusion remains unclear.

(2) Robustness of cell type classification

Several proposed cell types may not represent distinct entities (not individuated) but rather reflect over-clustering. Marker genes are often not specific and are shared across clusters (e.g. Sec1/Sec2), making it difficult to distinguish cell types reliably.

(3) Comparative analysis of secretory cells

The comparative framework is not sufficiently supported. Secretory cells are highly diverse, and without proper validation, their comparison across taxa is not meaningful. The transcription factor analysis is limited, as only a few genes are shared and many are inconsistently expressed (Figure 3E). The conclusion of a conserved regulatory program across spiralians is therefore overstated.

(4) Clarity and interpretation of results

Results are at times difficult to follow and remain superficial. Marker genes are insufficiently annotated (especially for Crassostrea), and comparisons across taxa lack functional interpretation. Unvalidated and heterogeneous cell types are grouped together, and transcriptional similarities are overinterpreted. Overall, key conclusions are not adequately supported by the presented data.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

Summary:

This manuscript by Bai et al. reports single-cell transcriptomics of the oyster mantle to elucidate the respective contributions of ancient conserved programmes and lineage-specific genes to the origin of the molluscan shell. The authors compare their dataset with other oyster larval datasets as well as data from other organisms (annelids, chaetognaths) and find evidence of evolutionary conservation and functional similarity with secretory cell types. They also observe that cells involved in secreting the larval skeleton express predominantly recent genes, whereas the adult skeleton-secreting programme is evolutionarily more conserved.

Strengths:

The manuscript is well written and clearly presented, and the results are interesting, particularly the distinction between larval and adult skeleton secretion, which is placed in a thoughtful evolutionary context.

Weaknesses:

(1) My main concern is that the authors rely primarily on previous studies for the experimental and functional characterisation of the identified cell types. The cited papers (Piovani, 2023 and de la Forest Divonne et al., 2025) deal with distinct stages or tissues (larvae and hemocytes, respectively), which limits their direct relevance. The authors also cite other papers for in situ expression data; it would be helpful to summarise somewhere (e.g. in a table) which genes have been experimentally characterised and what their expression domains are, or alternatively to provide HCR or in situ staining on the mantle. For instance, what is the rationale for the claim that proliferative cells give rise to the mantle? The trajectory inference approach used (Monocle) would likely yield a similar result regardless of the reference cell type, so additional justification is needed.

(2) More broadly, I find that the functional properties of the identified cell types and their relationship to the expressed genes deserve more detailed discussion. For example, at L100, several genes are mentioned, but their functional roles are not discussed. Similarly, the basis for annotating the proliferative cells is not explained. How was gene orthology assessed? Throughout the manuscript, vertebrate-style gene names are used without explicitly establishing orthology status in oyster, which should be addressed.

(3) More detail is needed on the methods and quality control for the single-cell data. The authors should clarify that the platform used (BMKMANU) is a droplet-based technology comparable in principle to Drop-seq. BMKMANU is not widely used in the field. How does it compare to 10x Genomics in terms of sensitivity and cell recovery? The authors appear to use the 10x Chromium cellranger pipeline for data analysis, which suggests compatibility, but this should be stated explicitly. Additionally, no information is provided on the number of sequencing runs or biological replicates, nor on how reproducible the results are across samples.

(4) A limitation of the phylostratigraphic analysis is that it is restricted to mantle tissue, making it difficult to place the results in a whole-organism context. How do the age profiles of mantle-expressed genes compare to those of more evolutionarily conserved tissues, such as the nervous system? I appreciate the methodological and experimental constraints, but this is a genuine limitation of the study. The authors could at least discuss it explicitly, and ideally consider generating a broader single-cell atlas of the oyster to provide this comparative baseline.

(5) Have the authors considered the potential importance of lineage-specific gene duplication? It is well established that spiralians, including oysters, have undergone extensive lineage-specific duplication of transcription factors such as homeobox genes, and many structural shell-associated proteins may similarly have been duplicated. This could be relevant to interpreting both the phylostratigraphic results and the expansion of secretory gene families.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

This paper reports a previously unrecognized mechanism by which platelets compact fibrin fibers during clot retraction. Rather than simply pulling on fibers, the authors propose that platelets generate swirling motions that wind and loop fibrin into dense structures.

While the results are intriguing, the underlying physical mechanism remains unexplained. In particular, it is unclear how platelets generate swirling motion capable of inducing fibrin coiling, especially when suspended in 3d fibrin mesh. This raises concerns about the conclusions. Also, does fibrin have inherent chirality or structural asymmetry that could promote coiling independently of platelet activity? Furthermore, platelet retraction typically involves platelet aggregation rather than isolated cells, and it is unclear how fibrin coiling would proceed in clustered platelets.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):<br /> <br /> Summary:

Grichine et al. investigate platelet-mediated fibrin compaction using human donor platelets and propose a novel mechanistic model in which platelets generate contractile forces and wind fibrin fibers into compact coiled structures. Using a combination of 2D spread assays, 3D clot imaging via expansion microscopy, live-cell imaging, and computational modelling, the authors present evidence of cage-like fibrin architectures, coiled-fibre morphologies, and platelet-centred "rosette" structures present during fibre compaction. They further suggest that actomyosin-driven cytoskeletal dynamics, potentially involving rotational or swirling motion, underlie this proposed winding mechanism, analogous to DNA looping and compaction. The study addresses an important and longstanding question in thrombosis and hemostasis and offers a conceptually novel perspective on clot compaction.

Strengths:

The integration of multiple imaging modalities is a notable strength of this paper. In particular, the 2D fiber-retraction assay provides a useful model for understanding the spatio-temporal dynamics of platelet-mediated fibrin compaction, which can be applied to other systems and may yield detailed mechanistic insights into biological processes. The live-imaging approaches are particularly well executed and offer valuable dynamic insight.

Weaknesses:

The primary weakness of this paper lies in its descriptive nature and its reliance on correlative rather than causal evidence. Several interpretations are not uniquely supported by the data presented. For example, the categorisation of fibrin accumulation in 2D assays as "fiber winding" and "fibre compaction" remains descriptive without establishing winding as a mechanism. Alternative mechanisms, such as circular bundling, stacked fibers under tension, or fibrin crosslinking-induced aggregation, are neither excluded nor investigated. Although the authors present compelling live imaging, establishing winding as a dynamic phenotype would require quantitative analyses, such as measuring angular velocities and coiling rates. The use of a second fluorophore-labelled fibrin population could further strengthen evidence for rotational dynamics. Similarly, the inference of rotational contractility or actomyosin "swirling", based on chiral actin organisation and blebbistatin treatment, is not sufficiently supported to conclude that platelets actively wind or loop fibrin fibers. The mathematical model, while complementary and well-constructed, relies on multiple assumptions and lacks predictive validation.

Appraisal:

While the authors successfully document intriguing fibrin architectures and provide a compelling descriptive framework, they do not fully demonstrate a mechanistic model of active fibrin winding by platelets. The conclusions regarding platelet-driven winding and rotational dynamics are not sufficiently supported by direct or quantitative evidence. To substantiate these claims, the study would benefit from experiments that directly link platelet dynamics to fibrin organisation, including coordinated measurements of platelet motion and fibre rearrangement. As it stands, the results are suggestive but do not definitively support the proposed mechanism.

Discussion and Impact:

Despite these limitations, the study addresses an important question in thrombosis and hemostasis and introduces a potentially impactful conceptual framework for understanding clot compaction. The imaging approaches and datasets presented will be valuable to the community, particularly for researchers interested in platelet mechanics and fibrin organisation. However, the overall impact will depend on whether the proposed mechanism can be more rigorously validated. In its current form, the study presents an interesting and thought-provoking model, but would benefit from either stronger experimental support for the proposed mechanisms or a more cautious interpretation of the findings.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

Summary:

This work aims to understand the mechanisms that platelets use to interact with and compact fibrin fibers during clot formation. This is an important process during wound healing, and recent work has demonstrated that platelets play a critical role in generating the force required to drive the accumulation of fibrin. The authors argue that current models are insufficient to account for the observed reduction in clot volume and propose that platelets actively 'wind up' these fibers by undergoing myosin-dependent rotation. While interesting, the experiments performed by the authors do not directly test this mechanism, and further evidence is required to support their claims.

Weaknesses:

(1) The motivation to switch from the system used in Figures 1 and 2 to the '2D fiber-retraction assay' is not clear. While the authors state that this system has 'reduced complexity', the differences between these assays appear to disrupt the 'cage-like' organization of fibrin around platelets shown in Figures 1 and 2 (compare images in Figure 2 with those in Figure 4). An in-depth comparison of two methods is needed to support the conclusions from the 2D system. Furthermore, the change in plasma volume (Figure 2 vs Figure 7) should also be tested - the authors state that this increases fibrin fiber formation, but this is not quantified or demonstrated in the figures. Notably, this appears to change the morphology of the fibrin fibers shown (comparing Figure 2 and Figure 7).

(2) It is unclear how the classification of platelets as 'fiber-winding' versus 'fiber compaction' differs in Figure 2. The criteria used for these classifications should be stated. Further, it seems premature to characterize fibers as wound without having established this earlier in the manuscript.

(3) Is the 'gearwheel' different from the 'cage' of fibrin fibers? They appear similar, but it is difficult to distinguish between them with only qualitative descriptions of these phenotypes.

(4) The quantification of platelet extensions in Figure 9 is confusing. While those in 9A are clear, those in 9B are not. For instance, what is the difference between #7 and #8 in the middle panel of 9B? It does not seem like #8 is labeling an extension.

(5) It is unclear what the modeling accomplishes, as there is no comparison between the results of these simulations and their experiments.

(6) The data presented in Figure 12 provides the most direct support for their mechanism, but falls short of directly testing their claims. These experiments should be repeated to include blebbistatin to test the contribution of myosin and include quantitative rather than qualitative comparisons of these experiments.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

The authors introduce the Training Village (TV), an open-source and modular system that allows group-housed rodents to live in enriched home cages while individually accessing a single shared operant box for automated cognitive training. The paper reported the animals' activity both in the operant box and in the home cages, which is novel.

Strengths:

A major strength of the work is that it moves beyond a proof-of-concept and demonstrates sustained box usage, long-term trial accumulation, and compatibility with different task designs.

(1) The platform provided a technical contribution in rodent cognitive neuroscience: obtaining large amounts of behavioral data from complex tasks while reducing experimenter intervention and preserving social housing.

(2) The authors demonstrate that the system can sustain prolonged task engagement (up to 12 months), maintain efficient use of a single operant box.

(3) The manuscript opens interesting opportunities for studying behavior outside standard session-based training. Because animals self-initiate training while remaining in a group-housed setting, the platform has the potential to illuminate relationships among motivation, spontaneous activity, and task engagement that are hard to access in conventional paradigms.

Weaknesses:

(1) One area that would benefit from further clarification is the manuscript's core advance relative to prior automated group-housed training systems, particularly Mouse Academy (Qiao et al., 2018). The authors listed some advantages in the Discussion section; however, those were some minor engineering improvements, and what is more interesting is the scientific question or results that can be asked or obtained from this study. The current study clearly presents a functional and carefully documented platform, but it would help the reader if the authors more explicitly distinguished the present system from earlier related approaches, both in terms of system design and in terms of experimental validation.

(2) At the system level, several of the claimed advantages could be supported more directly with quantitative data. For example, if the double-detection corridor and alarm system are important distinguishing features, it would be valuable to report measures such as detection accuracy, missed detections, co-entry failures, alarm frequency, and the degree of manual intervention required in practice. Similarly, the welfare-related arguments are plausible and important, but would be strengthened by more direct evidence, such as longitudinal body weight data, water intake, or comparison with group-housed no-task controls.

(3) At the experimental level, the manuscript would also benefit from a more detailed characterization of training performance. Although three behavioral paradigms are presented, the data currently shown provide a stronger demonstration of feasibility than of training optimization. For a study focused on automated cognitive training, it would be critical to include more information on learning speed, progression across stages, success and failure rates, and variability across animals. Along the same lines, the comparison with manual training is a useful addition, but a broader benchmark including learning curves, time to criterion, and between-animal variability would make the practical value of the system easier to assess.

(4) The authors claimed that they conducted 3 complex cognitive tasks (3AFC, 2AFC, 2AB) in their setup. However, those 3 tasks are quite basic for rodents and have been demonstrated in many studies, especially comparing tasks implemented in Yu et al., eLife 2025. Therefore, lowering this 'complex' statement is necessary.

(5) The authors claimed that they have successfully implemented the so-called hybrid mode, but it is only briefly described and not supported by citations or data. Since this may be one of the most broadly applicable use cases of the platform, a more detailed explanation of how the system can be integrated with recording workflows would strengthen the manuscript.

(6) The manuscript highlights the opportunity to relate task behavior to home-cage activity and to study individualized behavioral patterns. To better support these aspects, it would be helpful to include more subject-level analyses, rather than relying predominantly on population averages, or alternatively to discuss in more concrete terms which features of the dataset may be especially informative for studying individuality. More generally, the manuscript would benefit from clarifying whether different parameter settings within this group-housed framework may be better suited for maximizing training efficiency versus preserving more naturalistic or socially modulated behavior, and what the implications of these choices may be for interpretation.

(7) In Table S1, 'Touch screen' is task-specific and is not necessarily a metric. 'Testing outside home cage' is also not necessarily an advantage (please clarify if it is). Many other systems implemented different levels of 'Alarm system', which is not reflected in the table.

(8) Table S3 shows important data that help the reader to evaluate the paper's work, thus is deserved to move to the main text.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

The Training Village (TV) is an innovative autonomous system for rodent training. By integrating an operant box with a group-housed home-cage environment, this platform enables animals to learn operant behaviors while preserving their social context and interactions, which is an aspect often overlooked in the field. The flexibility and modularity of the TV system allow training across multiple cognitive tasks in a continual learning framework. Furthermore, its remote accessibility and affordability make it a compelling tool for the broader neuroscience community.

Comments:

(1) Social Hierarchy and Access Competition

Previous studies on rodent social hierarchy (e.g., PMID: 21960531) have demonstrated clear dominance structures within group-housed animals. Based on this, one might expect dominant animal(s) to occupy more sessions and trials than subordinate animals by preferentially accessing the operant box. Therefore, it is somewhat surprising to observe a relatively uniform distribution of operant box occupancy across animals (Figure 2a, 2i). As a control, it would strengthen the manuscript to include an independent assessment of social hierarchy (e.g., tube test, barber assay, or similar behavioral metrics) to quantitatively characterize dominance relationships within the cohort. Correlating these rankings with chamber occupancy and trial frequency would significantly strengthen the validation of the system's equity.

(2) Behavioral Saving Effects in Continual Learning

The authors demonstrate that the TV platform allows for the sequential learning of multiple cognitive tasks (Figure S3e). This provides an excellent opportunity to examine a continual learning paradigm. A key hallmark of successful continual learning is the "behavior savings effect", where re-learning a previously acquired task occurs faster than initial learning. For example, if animals are trained sequentially on task A (e.g., 2AFC), then task B (e.g., 2AB), and subsequently re-trained on task A, do they exhibit accelerated re-learning? Including such an analysis would significantly strengthen the claim regarding continual learning capabilities.

(3) Robustness of Multi-Animal Attempt Detection

In the TV platform, only one animal can access the operant box at a time under group-housed conditions. This setup inherently introduces the possibility of "multi-animal attempts", as shown in Figure 2j-k and Figure S2c. While the authors address this using pixel-based classification, additional quantitative validation would improve confidence in this approach. For instance, presenting the distribution of pixel counts for single-animal versus multi-animal events would be informative. Moreover, given variability in body size across animals, a fixed pixel threshold may not be sufficient. It would be helpful to include analyses of classification performance (e.g., Type I and Type II error rates) across different animal pairings within the same cohort.

(4) Protocol Flexibility and Implementation

It would be helpful to clarify how behavioral task protocols are switched within the TV system. Specifically, are task changes applied globally to all animals sharing the operant box, or can they be assigned individually? Additionally, are task sequences pre-programmed prior to the experiment, or can they be modified dynamically during ongoing experiments?

(5) Presentation and Readability

To improve readability, the Discussion section could be streamlined, as it is currently somewhat lengthy and descriptive.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

Summary:

The Training Village (TV) is an open-source automated platform for continuous training and testing of group-housed mice and rats in cognitive tasks. Animals live in enriched multi-compartment home cages and access a single operant box individually through a sorting corridor controlled by RFID identification and real-time video analysis. A Raspberry Pi 5 runs the entire system, manages an adaptive training algorithm, monitors animal welfare, and allows remote supervision via a graphical interface and Telegram alarm system. The system is validated across 12 groups totaling 121 animals, three cognitive paradigms of varying complexity, and experiments lasting up to 12 months.

Strengths:

(1) The open-source implementation is probably the paper's strongest point. The authors provide not just code but 3D-printable designs, a full bill of materials with costs (~5500€ total), assembly instructions, and a dedicated website. The estimated build time of 2-7 days is credible. In the current landscape of methods papers, this level of documentation is the minimum necessary to allow other laboratories to actually adopt and propagate the system - and the authors deliver it fully. The compatibility with two operant box designs, three cognitively distinct tasks, and two species - demonstrated empirically rather than merely claimed - makes the modularity argument credible and distinguishes the TV from systems designed around a single paradigm. Finally, the combination of automatic weighing at each exit, temperature and humidity tracking, and a granular Telegram alarm system (Table S2) represents a meaningful practical contribution. For a system operating 24/7 without daily human supervision, this level of welfare monitoring is a necessity, and it seems well implemented here.

(2) With 121 animals across 12 groups, three distinct cognitive paradigms, two species, and longitudinal data spanning up to 12 months, the validation effort is substantial. The authors acknowledge the limitations of their comparisons - notably that the TV vs. manual training comparison is not a controlled experiment. The rat dataset is limited in scope, but the authors at least demonstrate that the system can be adapted to a second species, which is a useful proof of concept. The demonstration that task engagement increases progressively over 12 months (Fig. 3g) is a novel observation at this temporal scale, with practical implications for the design of long-term experiments.

(3) The demonstration that operant box usage is distributed nearly uniformly across animals (Gini < 0.15 in all groups) is carefully demonstrated and addresses a question that any laboratory considering this type of system will legitimately ask, e.g., whether dominant individuals monopolize access at the expense of subordinates. This has been shown before in comparable systems, but remains a necessary validation for each new implementation. The control condition removing temporal constraints (Figure S4) adds useful mechanistic insight into the role of the refractory interval. However, the interpretation of this result deserves more nuance than the authors provide - see Weaknesses.

Weaknesses:

(1) The TV is more than an automation tool; its architecture makes the most sense if one intends to study how spontaneous home cage behavior relates to individual cognitive performance, and the introduction and discussion explicitly frame this as a key application. Yet the analysis delivers only group-level descriptive results, and the cognitive data are presented almost exclusively as group averages. The individual-level questions that the system is uniquely positioned to address (do stable home cage behavioral profiles emerge across animals, do animals learn at the same rate and using the same strategies, and do these dimensions correlate with each other ) are never asked. This is particularly relevant given that enriched social environments are precisely the conditions under which stable inter-individual differences tend to emerge spontaneously, even among genetically identical animals (Freund et al., 2013, Science), and that comparable systems have already linked such profiles to cognitive and neurochemical phenotypes (Torquet et al., 2018, Nature Communications). The TV clearly has the data to begin exploring this - doing so would substantially strengthen the paper's scientific contribution beyond its methodological value.

(2) Sustained daytime operant box usage in nocturnal animals deserves more discussion: Box occupancy during the light phase remains around 75% - only modestly below the ~85% seen at night (Fig. S5a-b). The authors conclude this reflects "sustained engagement with the task throughout the circadian cycle," but other explanations are not considered: residual thirst driving animals to seek sucrose water during the day, and the refractory interval mechanically redistributing sessions into the light phase? A more explicit discussion of the consequences of 24/7 unsupervised testing for data quality (daytime sessions may yield noisier behavioral data?) would be useful.

(3) The finding that all animals access the operant box in roughly equal proportions (Gini < 0.15) is practically important and carefully demonstrated. However, the authors' interpretation that animals self-organize in an egalitarian manner despite known social hierarchies deserves a note of caution. The system design itself constrains monopolization: the refractory interval imposes the same waiting time on all animals regardless of social rank, and session duration determines how often the box becomes available. The no-constraint control (Figure S4) partially addresses this but was run on already-trained animals, limiting its interpretive value. The key practical message, that all animals can access the task regularly under the proposed design, is well supported. Whether this reflects genuine social tolerance or is primarily a consequence of system constraints is a subtler question that the current data cannot fully resolve.

(4) The rat cohort consists of a single group of 6 female Long-Evans rats, yet species comparisons are drawn across multiple dimensions (daily sessions, task engagement, performance...). Observed differences could reflect group size, sex, strain, reward calibration, or simple individual variability rather than species differences. These results should be presented for what they are: a useful proof of concept showing the system works with a second species, not a basis for comparative conclusions.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

This paper examines whether humans use protracted temporal integration in a noise-free, deferred-response contrast discrimination task, using a covert evidence-duration manipulation combined with EEG (SSVEP, CPP, Mu/Beta). The key finding is that evidence for protracted sampling is behaviorally and neurally supported, but even joint CPP + behaviour fitting cannot fully discriminate a standard integration (DDM) model from a novel "extremum-flagging" non-integration model. The paper is transparent about this outcome.

Strengths:

This is a well-conducted and well-written study that makes a genuine contribution to the perceptual decision-making literature by introducing a clean experimental design for probing temporal integration without participants adapting their strategy and demonstrating for the first time that a non-integration model (extremum-flagging) can replicate CPP waveform dynamics that have long been considered hallmarks of evidence accumulation. The transparent treatment of equivocal modelling outcomes is commendable.

Weaknesses:

My main concerns relate to statistical power, the under-specification of the and the extremum-flagging mechanism. Addressing these would greatly strengthen the paper.

(1) The sample of 16 participants (15, after the exclusion of one participant) is described as "close to similar EEG studies" with no formal power analysis. Given that the paper's core claim rests on subtle quantitative differences between two model classes - differences that are, by the authors' own admission, not sufficient to declare a winner - even a modest increase in sample size might yield a more decisive outcome. At a minimum, the authors should report a sensitivity analysis or post-hoc power calculation to indicate what effect sizes the current N could reliably detect, particularly for the rmANOVA comparisons and the neural constraint fitting.

(2) The Extremum-flagging model is the paper's most novel contribution, yet its physiological basis is underspecified. The model posits that each decision-terminating bound-crossing triggers a stereotyped, half-sine-shaped centroparietal signal, but no neural circuit or computational mechanism is proposed for how the brain could detect the first bound-crossing event in a non-accumulating evidence stream or generate a temporally precise, fixed-amplitude signal in response. Possible connections to P3b theories of context updating and response facilitation are acknowledged, but these are vague functional descriptions rather than mechanistic accounts. I think the discussion should engage more directly with potential neural substrates that could generate this flagging signal, and whether these are consistent with the known generators of the CPP/P3b. Without this, the extremum-flagging model risks being viewed as a mathematical convenience rather than a biologically plausible alternative.

(3) The Integration model at the preferred neural weighting estimates a high-to-low contrast drift rate ratio of 8.7, whereas the empirical Mu/Beta lateralization slopes suggest a ratio of approximately 3.5. The authors attribute this discrepancy to the nonlinear contrast response function of early visual cortex and the salience of the high-contrast evidence onset, but these explanations are speculative. These outcomes are arguably the most quantitatively damaging result for the integration model, so they deserve more than a brief discussion. I would recommend that the authors (a) estimate what range of contrast response nonlinearities would be required to close this gap, (b) test whether an alternative drift rate parameterization (e.g., scaling drift rates directly by SSVEP amplitude rather than contrast) reduces the discrepancy, or (c) be more explicit about treating this as a point against the Integration account.

(4) The sensitivity analysis over neural constraint weightings (w = 0.1 to 1000) is thoughtful, but the paper ultimately acknowledges that the preferred weighting is w=10, chosen because it achieves "a good fit to CPP dynamics without substantively sacrificing behavioral fit" - a qualitative criterion. No principled statistical framework is used to select the optimal weighting or to compare models at a given weighting. A Bayesian model comparison could provide a more formal framework for combining behavioral and neural fit components, and would allow a clearer statement about the relative posterior probability of each model.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

The manuscript by Hajimohammadi, Mohr, O'Connell and Kelly is intended to demonstrate that participants integrate evidence over time to make a decision, even in a noise-free, static decision context. This is validated by the observation that (1) participant accuracy improves with increased exposure to the stimulus; and (2) there is a correlation between participant accuracy and a neural index of evidence accumulation, as measured by centro-parietal positivity (CPP).

Strengths:

(1) Joint modelling of accuracy and CPP dynamics is a significant achievement, as behaviour alone often cannot distinguish between competing theories of decision-making. In the case of protracted sampling in particular, the absence of reaction times (RT) due to the delayed nature of the response makes this method highly appealing.

(2) The experimental manipulations and the method used to extract the different neural indices are well chosen, enabling the mapping of putative cognitive processes such as evidence accumulation and motor preparation onto the recorded EEG with clarity.

(3) The in-depth discussion of the results clearly articulates those reported by the authors and in previous works.

Weaknesses:

(1) One main issue to support the interpretation of the authors toward the need for protracted sampling is the timing of the evidence. By design, participants believe that the signal is present for 1.6 seconds (reinforced by the fact that easy trials were displayed for 1.6 seconds). However, the difference in stimuli is turned off either 1.4, 1.2, 0.8 or 0 seconds before the cue to respond. While this makes sense in the context of the authors' question, it also raises the possibility that participants will focus on the last samples before answering. Even if participants apply equal weighting, this still favours them delaying evidence accumulation until they are sufficiently certain that the evidence should be present (e.g. participants might start accumulating after the stimulus has disappeared in the 0.2 condition). I do not see an easy way to test these alternative explanations outside of running a study in which the evidence is always offset before the go cue.

(2) Regarding the behavioural models, are these identifiable based on accuracy data alone? This should be addressed using a parameter recovery study, in which a set of parameters is used to generate data, and the same fitting routine used for the real data is used to estimate the parameters. This would enable us to determine what can be inferred from the model comparison presented. This is not a serious problem for the manuscript, as it specifically aims to go beyond behaviour. It is, however, worth noting that such a parameter recovery addition could be used to demonstrate the need for a joint modelling framework to answer the question of protracted sampling on delayed response times (RT).

Minor comments:

(1) I would advise authors to fix the D1 parameter and use it as a scaling parameter across all models. Currently, as I understand it, the models are scale-free, meaning the same fit is achieved by multiplying all parameters by two, for example. This makes the fit more complex (bounds on parameter values are required) and means that the models are less comparable in terms of their estimates. Perhaps I'm missing something, but I would have thought that fixing D1 (the common parameter across all models) would solve these issues.

(2) Why is the snapshot model so bad despite being a good model in Stine et al 2020? Can the authors speculate in the discussion?

(3) The meaning of the flag width is unclear. Figure 4 provides the reader with an intuitive understanding of the model that the authors have in mind. However, the tables in the appendices report values between 0.2 and 0.9. I understand that these values represent the width of the half-sine in seconds. This suggests that the actual estimated values for these flag events are much broader than those displayed in Figure 4. While this is probably fine for most models, it can be problematic for the extremum-flagging model, as it means that the rise to the peak takes between 0.1 and 0.45 seconds. While strictly speaking, this is still a 'flag' model, such a slow rise to the peak, given the usual expectation of evidence accumulation, would place this model closer to a smooth integration model than to a boundary-crossing flagging mechanism.

(4) In the modelling section, it is not clear overall (i.e. for G² and R²) how the participant dimension is taken into account. Are these individually fitted models, and if so, how are the secondary statistics generated from the individual estimates? Or were these fitted over all participants?

(5) On page 7, in the last sentence of the first paragraph of the section titled 'Decision-Related Neural Signals', the authors state that 'this stable contrast-difference encoding suggests that a constant (i.e. non-adapting) drift rate is a reasonable simplifying model assumption'. However, I am not sure how this is true given that SSVEP quantifies encoding, yet the drift rate can vary due to non-sensory aspects (e.g. attention).

(6) The mu/beta lateralisation does indeed favor the integration model more, but in terms of boundary estimation and starting-point analyses, both models are pretty far apart. Providing an interpretation of this observation, e.g. regarding alternative linking functions for mu/beta, would add to the manuscript.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

Summary:

The authors aim to compare proposal models of perceptual decision making using a joint modeling approach, where they fit models to both behavioral outcomes as well as CPP. Most notably, they compare a standard evidence accumulation model with models that track the evidence without integrating it over time (extrema detection). The authors report that the joint CPP-behavioral data do not discriminate between two of their proposals.

Strengths:

This is an interesting finding that reinforces the idea that what we believe to see based on aggregation over trials may not be what happens on every single trial. The models are creative, and the simulations are convincing, relating the models to multiple neural markers of decision formation. These include the CPP but also mu/beta power spectra.

Weaknesses:

The paper makes some strong points, and the work seems generally well-executed. The weaknesses that I identified are twofold:

(1) Embedding in the literature/exposition of the main argument.

The focus in the introduction is on the noise-free nature of the stimulus and the prolonged presentation time. However, after reading the paper, I felt these were mostly experimental design choices that enable comparison of the different models using the CPP. Perhaps my misreading of the goals of the paper stems from two other observations:

a) The fact that the stimulus is noise-free does not entail that perception is noise-free. Thus, the argument that using a noise-free stimulus precludes the necessity of temporal integration seems not completely valid. Of course, one could argue that noise is limited in this case, but that makes a noise-free stimulus more of a design choice.

b) The focus on prolonged stimulus presentation, but at the same time the contrast with expanded judgement, did not make sense to me. Perhaps, as a non-native speaker, I am misreading the subtle difference between "protracted sampling" and "longer sampling", but again, the longer duration seems mostly a design choice.

More could be said about the optimality of the extrema detection methods. In particular, decades of work (centuries?) have shown that evidence integration is an optimal decision-making procedure: For example, the Sequential Probability Ratio Test is Bayes-optimal wrt mean RT (Wald, 1946); evidence accumulation together with collapsing threshold serves to maximize rewards in repeated choices (e.g., Bogacz et al., PsychRev, 2006; Boehm et al. APP, 2020). Given all this work, why would the brain have evolved to adopt a different mechanism? I realize that the paper is not about optimal decision making, but some discussion of this point seems warranted.

(2) Modeling choices.

The authors introduce a parameter, sampT, that represents uncertainty in the sampling onset time. It was not clear to me whether this parameter represented an offset of all trials, or a distribution (probably the latter). I wonder how exactly this parameter was integrated into the models, and in particular, if and how it interacts with the starting-point parameters. My intuition is that on a single-trial, IF early sampling occurs, you can model that with either a negative sampT and z at 0, or with sampT at 0 but a shift in z. This would suggest trade-offs between these parameters, making them hard to estimate independently. Since the paper does not depend on the identification of parameter estimates, this may not be a huge problem, but nevertheless it is good to explore the consequences.

The way the Bounded Integration model (BIntg) is formulated seems very close to the EZ-diffusion model (Wagenmakers et al., PBR, 2007). This model states that the proportion of correct responses Pc = 1/(1+exp(-B*D/s^2), with B and D the bound and drift rate parameters, respectively. However, filling in the numbers for the high contrast condition from Table 2, and assuming that s=2 (because the model description states that dt=2, with s undefined), I get a Pc of 80% for the 1.6H condition. This seems substantially less than what Figure 2 suggests.

On some occasions, it is unclear to me what modeling choices are being made:

a) It seems as if the models are fit on accuracy data alone (before introducing the neural data). This seems suboptimal given that the authors do report differences in RT.

b) Are the models fit on all data combined, or on the data of individual participants? Fitting individual participant data is preferred, as combined or aggregated data may be distorted by individual differences.

c) The authors seem to suggest that the diffusion coefficient s is estimated (in the section "Integration models"). Most likely, however, this is set to a fixed value. Obviously, it matters for the model comparison using AIC whether this parameter was freely estimated or not.

Not really a weakness, but I wondered about the effect of stimulus duration on RT. In particular, what hypothesis (or post hoc explanation) do the authors have for these RT effects? I could think of at least three hypotheses that are consistent with the behavioral data:

a) H1: The shorter the evidence duration, the more likely participants are to require a double-check before response execution, reflecting their uncertainty about their decision.<br /> b) H2: There is a collapsing threshold that initiates at stimulus offset, leading to quicker responses on trials where there is more evidence.<br /> c) H3: motor preparation is correlated with the evidence signal, which leads to faster responses on trials with more evidence.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Vasilevskaya and Keller test different models of cortical function through the lens of predictive processing, a powerful framework for the brain to learn and predict the statistics of the world via generative internal models. The authors use a clever combination of behavioral perturbations in closed-loop and open-loop visuomotor virtual reality assays, a paradigm the Keller lab pioneered and used effectively in the past decade, in conjunction with two-photon imaging of neuronal calcium responses and targeted optogenetic perturbations of activity. They specifically put to test proposed hierarchical vs. non-hierarchical circuit implementations of predictive processing by analyzing the logic of inter-lamina interactions (superficial vs. deep; L2/3 vs. L5/6).

The authors conclude that both versions of predictive processing architectures they analyze are likely invalid, and instead formulate an alternative novel model of cortical function based on a recently developed machine learning algorithm for self-supervised learning (joint embeddings of predictive architectures, JEPA) and its further refinements. JEPA borrows elements from predictive processing, engaging two encoder networks and training the output of one network to predict the output of the other. In their new model of cortical computations, prediction error neurons in L2/3 compare the deep layers (L5/6) activity, which is taken as a teaching signal, to a local, L2/3 prediction of this latent representation.

Specifically, the authors build on their previous work and reports from other groups that different sets of L2/3 neurons compute positive prediction errors (fire when sensory stimuli appear unexpectedly with respect to the movements of the animal; e.g., grating onsets in the absence of locomotion) and respectively negative prediction errors (fire when sensory stimuli are absent, while the brain expected them to be present; e.g. mice locomote but visual flow is suddenly halted - visuomotor mismatches). These L2/3 positive and negative prediction error neurons exchange messages with neurons in the deeper cortical layers that, the authors propose, build an internal representation (R) of the sensory stimuli given the animals' movements.

In the hierarchical model, internal representation neurons (R) are supposed to act as a teaching signal for both types of prediction error neurons; the output of the positive prediction error neurons is assumed to suppress activity of R such that the error between the teaching signal and the prediction is minimized; similarly, in the non-hierarchical version, R serves as a prediction for the prediction error neurons, and in turn it receives excitatory drive from the positive prediction error neurons and negative input from the negative prediction error neurons.

The authors find that the functional impact of L5 neurons on L2/3 neurons is not compatible with the non-hierarchical architecture they and other groups proposed, but rather in accordance with the hierarchical model. At the same time, the functional impact of L2/3 neurons (positive vs. negative prediction error neurons) on L5 neurons (internal representation) appears not compatible with the hierarchical model, but rather in accordance with the non-hierarchical implementation.

They further hypothesize that L2/3 prediction error neurons don't use sensory input, but rather the L5 activity as a teaching signal, and test it using perturbations (halts) of optogenetic stimulation of L5 neurons coupled with locomotion (Figure 7).

All in all, the question is topical, and the new model addresses a decades-long quest to develop a unifying model of cortical function. The findings reported here transform our understanding of cortical computations, opening new, exciting avenues for future investigation. The experimental design and execution are rigorous; the arguments are clearly laid out (in spite of ample potential for confusion given the numerous loops and sign flips). These include a discussion of why the non-hierarchical model proposed by the same group does not hold, as well as potential caveats in interpreting the results and novel testable proposed experiments emerging from the JEPA-like model.

I have several questions about the interpretations of some of the claims and suggestions for potential additional experiments and analyses.

(1) Some of the pieces of the puzzle remain to be identified and demonstrated: the existence of internal representation neurons in L2/3 and ascertaining that the L5/6 neurons analyzed function indeed as internal representation neurons. The authors find that stimulation of L2/3 positive prediction error neurons enhances activity of L5 neurons...If L5 neurons hold a latent representation that serves as a teaching signal for L2/3 neurons (as the authors posit), wouldn't one expect that the input they receive from the positive prediction neurons be suppressive, such that the error is further minimized?

(2) Do the authors envision any specific differences between the representations of the two encoder networks posited to exist in L2/3 and L5 in the JEPA-like implementation? Are they synchronous/offset in their temporal representations, or any other features?

(3) Where is the prediction coming from onto L2/3 neurons? Is it emerging locally in L2/3 from the putative internal representation neurons, or is it long-range - as work from the authors previously proposed? Or a mix of both?

(4) What is the role of the indiscriminate L4 input that appears to enhance activity of both positive and negative prediction error neurons in L2/3?

(5) Does Figure 7D change in a meaningful manner if the authors plot the correlation between optomotor mismatch response and visuomotor mismatch response specifically for the negative prediction error neurons in L2/3 (Adamts-2) rather than for all L2/3 cells sampled?

(6) Do the optomotor mismatch responses in L2/3 neurons depend on how long the closed-loop coupling of optogenetic stimulation of Tlx3 L5 neurons and locomotion speed has been in place for?

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

This manuscript reveals the functional connectivity of two different classes of cortical neurons that respond in opposite ways to mismatches between sensory and top-down inputs. These data are very valuable because different theories of information processing in the cortex make different predictions on the patterns of connectivity of these neurons. Therefore, these data strongly constrain possible theories of cortical processing.

General comments:

(1) The methods of statistical testing are insufficiently described. I did not understand the description in lines 1105-1119. The authors should provide sufficient details so the reader can reproduce their analyses. For example, it may be helpful to provide specific details of the testing procedure for one of the comparisons (e.g. the first comparison in Table S1).

(2) The authors should clarify how the problem of multiple comparisons was addressed for comparisons performed in multiple moments of time, where significance is indicated by a black bar (e.g. in Figure 2F).

(3) It would be helpful to add a figure in the Discussion summarising the functional connectivity suggested by all experiments.

(4) Throughout the manuscript, the authors use the term "teaching signals", but I am unclear what they mean by it: after reading the definition in lines 45-46, I thought that they corresponded to values (as they are compared to sensory signals). Later (428-430), the text suggests that they correspond to error neurons. But then lines 605-607 say it is not an error signal. The authors should define teaching signals very precisely or remove this term.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

Vasilevskaya and Keller set out to experimentally distinguish between two variants of predictive processing: a hierarchical and a non-hierarchical variant. The hierarchical variant assumes a hierarchical organization in which internal representation neurons (believed to be a subset of layer 5 excitatory neurons) serve as a source of a teaching signal for local prediction error neurons as well as for the next higher level of the hierarchy, while simultaneously providing prediction signals to the preceding lower level. In contrast, the non-hierarchical variant posits that these layer 5 internal representation neurons provide local predictions to layer 2/3 prediction error neurons.

The interaction between internal representation neurons and prediction error neurons differs fundamentally between the two variants. In the hierarchical variant, internal representation neurons excite positive prediction error neurons and inhibit negative prediction error neurons, while at the same time being inhibited by positive prediction error neurons and excited by negative prediction error neurons. In the non-hierarchical variant, this pattern of connectivity is reversed.

This work is very exciting, timely, and carefully executed. The authors functionally, and later molecularly, identify layer 2/3 prediction error neurons in V1 and probe their interactions with genetically defined neuron types in cortical layers 5 and 6 using optogenetics. They demonstrate that the functional influence of putative prediction error neurons in layer 2/3 onto layer 5 is incompatible with the hierarchical variant, whereas the influence of layer 5 onto putative prediction error neurons in layer 2/3 is incompatible with the non-hierarchical variant. They then test an alternative hypothesis, in which layer 2/3 responses resemble prediction errors with respect to perturbations of artificial layer 5 activity patterns. To investigate this, they designed an experiment in which optogenetic activation of L5 IT neurons was closed-loop coupled to the mouse's locomotion speed in the absence of visual feedback, allowing them to probe the causal influence of L5 activity on layer 2/3 responses.

Finally, the authors hypothesize that their data are more consistent with a joint embedding predictive architecture (JEPA) and outline experimentally testable predictions arising from this framework.

While the work is overall convincing and significantly advances our understanding of the circuit-level implementation of predictive processing, there are a few weaknesses that should be addressed or discussed:

(1) The authors define putative positive prediction error neurons as the 15% of neurons most responsive to grating onset and putative negative prediction error neurons as the 15% most responsive to visuomotor mismatch. While this selection would be expected to overlap with negative and positive prediction error neurons, the criterion is not sufficiently stringent (independent of the exact percentage chosen). In particular, classification of a neuron as a prediction error neuron should ideally be accompanied by evidence that it does not exhibit a significant increase in activity when the prediction matches the sensory input or teaching signal.

(2) The authors "speculate that the prediction error responses in layer 2/3 may not be computed with respect to sensory input, but with respect to layer 5 activity as a teaching signal." However, it is unclear how this perspective differs from earlier statements in the manuscript. In the Introduction, the authors note that "these signals, typically referred to as sensory signals, we will refer to as teaching signals," and later describe the hierarchical variant as one "in which internal representation neurons act as a source of the teaching signal." Given this framing, it is difficult to identify what is conceptually novel in the updated view. Is the key distinction that layer 2/3 neurons are now proposed to generate predictions in an internal representation space rather than in sensory input space, as briefly suggested in the Discussion? Or are the authors introducing a distinction between an external (sensory) and an internal (cortical) teaching signal? If so, this distinction should be made explicit. Clarifying this point would considerably strengthen the manuscript.

(3) The authors propose that "L2/3 neurons predict L5 activity, hence making predictions in the internal representation space rather than the input space," and further suggest that, since both deep and superficial cortical layers receive thalamic input, the cortex may function like a JEPA. This idea appears closely related to the model introduced by Nejad et al. (2025), which effectively implements a JEPA-like architecture: L5 activity serves as a target against which L2/3 predictions are compared in a self-supervised manner, with both L5 and L2/3 (via L4) receiving thalamic input. It would be helpful for the authors to clarify how their framework differs from that model, and to specify the key conceptual or mechanistic distinctions between the present proposal and the approach described by Nejad et al..

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

This manuscript investigates mutations and expression patterns of zinc finger proteins in Kenyan breast cancer patients. Whole-exome sequencing and RNA-seq were performed on 23 breast cancer samples alongside matched normal tissues.

Strengths:

Whole-exome sequencing and RNA-seq were performed on 23 breast cancer samples alongside matched normal tissues in Kenyan breast cancer patients. The authors identified mutations in ZNF217, ZNF703, and ZNF750.

Weaknesses:

(1) Research scope:

The results primarily focus on mutations in ZNF217, ZNF703, and ZNF750, with limited correlation analyses between mutations and gene expression. The rationale for focusing only on these genes is unclear. Given the availability of large breast cancer cohorts such as TCGA and METABRIC, the authors should compare their mutation profiles with these datasets. Beyond European and U.S. cohorts, sequencing data from multiple countries, including a recent Nigerian breast cancer study (doi: 10.1038/s41467-021-27079-w), should also be considered. Since whole-exome sequencing was performed, it is unclear why only four genes were highlighted, and why comparisons to previous literature were not included.

(2) Language and Style Issues

There are many typos and clear errors in the main text (e.g. (ref)).

Additionally, several statements read unnaturally. For example:

"Investigators uncovered 170 mutations ..." should instead be phrased as "We identified 170 mutations ...."

"The research team ..." should be rephrased as "Our team ...."

(3) Methods and Data Analysis Details

The methods section is vague, with general descriptions rather than specific details of data processing and analysis. The authors should provide:

(a) Parameters used for trimming, mapping, and variant calling (rather than referencing another paper such as Tang et al. 2023).

(b) Statistical methods for somatic mutation/SNP detection.

(c) Details of RNA purification and RNA-seq library preparation.

Without these details, the reproducibility of the study is limited.

(4) Data Reporting

This study has the potential to provide a valuable resource for the field. However, data-sharing plans are unclear. The authors should:

a) Deposit sequencing data in a public repository.

b) Provide supplementary tables listing all detected mutations and all differentially expressed genes (DEGs).

c) Clarify whether raw or adjusted p-values were used for DEG analysis.

d) Perform DEG analyses stratified by breast cancer subtypes, since differential expression was observed by HER2 status, and some zinc finger proteins are known to be enriched in luminal subtypes.

(5) Mutation Analysis

Visualizations of mutation distribution across protein domains would greatly strengthen interpretation. Comparing mutation distribution and frequency with published datasets would also contextualize the findings.

Comments on revisions:

The revised manuscript hasn't addressed any of these concerns. Careful proofreading is recommended, even if the authors do not intend to make further modifications to the manuscript.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

This work integrated the mutational landscape and expression profile of ZNF molecules in 23 Kenyan women with breast cancer.

Strengths:

The mutation landscape of ZNF217, ZNF703, and ZNF750 were comprehensively studied and correlate with tumor stage and HER2 status to highlight the clinical significance.

Weaknesses:

The current cohort size is relatively small to reach significant findings, and targeted exploration on ZNF family without emphasizing the reason or clinical significance hinders the overall significance of the entire work.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

Summary:

This revised study analyzes the somatic mutational profiles and transcriptomic expression of three zinc-finger genes (ZNF217, ZNF703, ZNF750) in 23 Kenyan women with breast cancer, using whole-exome sequencing and RNA-sequencing of paired tumor-normal tissues. A total of 358 somatic mutations were detected, and all three genes were significantly upregulated in tumors compared to normal tissues (ZNF217 showing the most prominent difference). Higher expression was observed in HER2-positive tumors, though mutation burden for each gene did not correlate significantly with HER2 status or cancer stage. The findings provide preliminary evidence for the idenfication of diagnostic/prognostic biomarkers or therapeutic targets in sub-Saharan African populations.

Strengths:

The study's key strengths lie in its focus on an underrepresented Kenyan cohort, addressing a critical gap in sub-Saharan African breast cancer genomic research. It integrates DNA-level mutation analysis with RNA-level expression data, leveraging standardized bioinformatics pipelines (e.g., Mutect2 for variant calling, DESeq2 for differential expression) and rigorous quality control to deliver detailed insights into mutation types, functional impacts, and amino acid changes. Additionally, it explores gene expression patterns across different cancer stages and HER2 status subgroups, generating targeted hypotheses for future validation and enhancing the reliability of its findings.

Weaknesses:

The author has enhanced the descriptive depth of the study by adding details on mutations, expression subgroup analyses, and functional annotations but has not addressed the core weaknesses of small cohort size and lack of functional validation. While the revised version is more comprehensive in cataloging molecular alterations, it remains confined to descriptive analysis, with no substantial improvement in the reliability or generalizability of its conclusions.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

[Editors' note: this version has been assessed by the Reviewing Editor without further input from the original reviewers. The authors have addressed the comments raised in the previous round of review.]

Summary:

Here, the authors have addressed the recruitment and firing patterns of motor units (MUs) from the long and lateral heads of triceps in the mouse. They used their newly developed Myomatrix arrays to record from these muscles during treadmill locomotion at different speeds, and they used template-based spike sorting (Kilosort) to extract units. Between MUs from the two heads, the authors observe differences in their firing rates, recruitment probability, phase of activation within the locomotor cycle and interspike interval patterning. Examining different walking speeds, the authors find increases in both recruitment probability and firing rates as speed increases. The authors also observed differences in the relation between recruitment and the angle of elbow extension between motor units from each head. These differences indicate meaningful variation between motor units within and across motor pools, and may reflect the somewhat distinct joint actions of the two heads of triceps.

Strengths:

The extraction of MU spike timing for many individual units is an exciting new method that has great promise for exposing the fine detail in muscle activation and its control by the motor system. In particular, the methods developed by the authors for this purpose seem to be the only way to reliably resolve single MUs in the mouse, as the methods used previously in humans and in monkeys (e.g. Marshall et al. Nature Neuroscience, 2022) do not seem readily adaptable for use in rodents.

The paper provides a number of interesting observations. There are signs of interesting differences in MU activation profiles for individual muscles here, consistent with those shown by Marshall et al. It is also nice to see fine scale differences in the activation of different muscle heads, which could relate to their partially distinct functions. The mouse offers greater opportunities for understanding the control of these distinct functions, compared to the other organisms in which functional differences between heads have previously been described.

The Discussion is very thorough, providing a very nice recounting of a great deal of relevant previous results.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

The present study, led by Thomas and collaborators, aims to characterise the firing activity of individual motor units in mice during locomotion. To achieve this, the team implanted small arrays of eight electrodes into two heads of the triceps and performed spike sorting using a custom implementation of Kilosort. Concurrently, they tracked the positions of the shoulder, elbow, and wrist using a single camera and a markerless motion capture algorithm (DeepLabCut). Repeated one-minute recordings were conducted in six mice across five speeds, ranging from 10 to 27.5 cm-1.

From these data, the authors demonstrate that:

- Their recording method and adapted spike-sorting algorithm enable robust decoding of motor unit activity during rapid movements.

- Identified motor units tend to be recruited during a subset of strides, with recruitment probability increasing with speed.

- Motor units within individual heads of the triceps likely receive common synaptic inputs that correlate their activity, whereas motor units from different heads exhibit distinct behaviour.

The authors conclude that these differences arise from the distinct functional roles of the muscles and the task constraints (i.e., speed).

Strengths:

- The novel combination of electrode arrays for recording intramuscular electromyographic signals from a larger muscle volume, paired with an advanced spike-sorting pipeline capable of identifying motor unit populations.

- The robustness of motor unit decoding during fast movements.

Weaknesses:

- The data do not clearly indicate which motor units were sampled from each pool, leaving uncertainty as to whether the sample is biased towards high-threshold motor units or representative of the entire pool.

- The results largely confirm the classic physiological framework of motor unit recruitment and rate coding, offering limited new insights into motor unit physiology.

Comments on previous version:

I would like to thank the authors for their thorough and insightful revisions. I am particularly pleased with the inclusion of the new analyses demonstrating the robustness of motor unit decoding, as well as the improved transparency regarding spike-sorting yield for each muscle and animal. Additionally, the new analyses illustrating that recruitment within muscle heads is consistent with the presence of common synaptic inputs and orderly recruitment significantly strengthen the manuscript.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

Summary:

Using the approach of Myomatrix recording, the authors report that 1) motor units are recruited differently in the two types of muscles and 2) individual units are probabilistically recruited during the locomotion strides, whereas the population bulk EMG has a more reliable representation of the muscle. Third, the recruitment of units was proportional to walking speed.

Strengths:

The new technique provides a unique dataset, and the data analysis is convincing and well-executed.

Weaknesses:

After the revision, I no longer see any apparent weaknesses in the study.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

The manuscript by Bohra et al. describes the indirect effects of ligand-dependent gene activation on neighboring non-target genes. The authors utilized single-molecule RNA-FISH (targeting both mature and intronic regions), 4C-seq, and enhancer deletions to demonstrate that the non-enhancer-targeted gene TFF3, located in the same TAD as the target gene TFF1, alters its expression when TFF1 expression declines at the end of the estrogen signaling peak. Since the enhancer does not loop with TFF3, the authors conclude that mechanisms other than estrogen receptor or enhancer-driven induction are responsible for TFF3 expression. Moreover, ERα intensity correlations show that both high and low levels of ERα are unfavorable for TFF1 expression. The ERa level correlations are further supported by overexpression of GFP-ERa. The authors conclude that transcriptional machinery used by TFF1 for its acute activation can negatively impact the TFF3 at peak of signaling but once, the condensate dissolves, TFF3 benefits from it for its low expression.

Strengths:

The findings are indeed intriguing. The authors have maintained appropriate experimental controls, and their conclusions are well-supported by the data.

Weaknesses:

There are some major and minor concerns that related to approach, data presentation and discussion. But the authors have greatly improved the manuscript during the revision work.

Comments on latest version:

The authors have done a lot of work for the revision. The manuscript has been greatly improved.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

Summary:

In this manuscript Bohra et al. measure the effects of estrogen responsive gene expression upon induction on nearby target genes using a TAD containing the genes TFF1 and TFF3 as a model. The authors propose that there is a sort competition for transcriptional machinery between TFF1 (estrogen responsive) and TFF3 (not responsive) such that when TFF1 is activated and machinery is recruited, TFF3 is activated after a time delay. The authors attribute this time delay to transcriptional machinery that was being sequestered at TFF1 becomes available to the proximal TFF3 locus. The authors demonstrate that this activation is not dependent on contact with the TFF1 enhancer through deletion, instead they conclude that it is dependent on a phase-separated condensate which can sequester transcriptional machinery. Although the manuscript reports an interesting observation that there is a dose dependence and time delay on the expression of TFF1 relative to TFF3, there is much room for improvement in the analysis and reporting of the data. Most importantly there is no direct test of condensate formation at the locus in the context of this study: i.e. dissolution upon the enhancer deletion, decay in a temporal manner, and dependence of TFF1 expression on condensate formation. Using 1,6' hexanediol to draw conclusion on this matter is not adequate to draw conclusions on the effect of condensates on a specific genes activity given current knowledge on its non-specificity and multitude of indirect effects. Thus, in my opinion the major claim that this effect of a time delayed expression of TFF3 being dependent on condensates in not supported by the current data.

Strengths:

The depends of TFF1 expression on a single enhancer and the temporal delay in TFF3 is a very interesting finding.

The non-linear dependence of TFF1 and TTF3 expression on ER concentration is very interesting with potentially broader implications.

The combined use of smFISH, enhancer deletion, and 4C to build a coherent model is a good approach.

Weaknesses:

There is no direct observation of a condensate at the TFF1 and TFF3 locus and how this condensate changes over time after E2 treatment, upon enhancer deletion, whether transcriptional machinery is indeed concentrated within it, and other claims on condensate function and formation made in the manuscript. The use of 1,6' HD is not appropriate to test this idea given how broadly it acts.

Comments on latest version:

I don't think the response to Reviewer 2's comment on LLPS condensates on TFF1 are adequate and given this point is essential to the claims of the manuscript they must be addressed. Namely, the data from Saravavanan, 2020 actually suggest that condensate formation at the locus is not very predictive and barely enriched over random spots. The claims in the manuscript on the dependence of the condensate being responsible for sequestering transcriptional machinery are quite strong and the crux of the current model. To continue to make this claim (which I don't think is necessary since there are other possible models) the authors must test if the condensate at his locus (1) shows time dependent behavior, (2) is not present or weakened at the locus in cells that show high TFF3 expression, (3) is indeed enriched for transcriptional machinery when TFF1 peaks. The use of 1,6 hexanediol is not appropriate as pointed out by reviewer 2 and is no longer considered as an appropriate experiment by many as the whole notion of LLPS forming nuclear condensates is now under question. Such condensates can form through a variety of mechanisms as reviewed for example by Mittaj and Pappu (A conceptual framework for understanding phase separation and addressing open questions and challenges, Molecular Cell, 2022). Furthermore, given the distance between TFF1 and TFF3 it is hard to imagine that if a condensate that concentrates machinery in a non-stoichiometric manner was forming how it would not boost expression on both genes and be just specific to one. There must be another mechanism in my opinion.

I would recommend the authors remove this aspect of their manuscript/model and simply report their interesting findings that are actually supported by data: The temporal delay of TFF3 expression, the dependence on ER concentration, and the enhancer dependence.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

In this manuscript, the authors present comprehensive experimental observations and a theoretical framework to explain the heterogeneous behaviour of sarcomeres in cardiomyocytes. They show that a stochastic component exists in their contractile activity, which may act as a feedback mechanism regulating physiological function.

Strengths:

Experiments and data analysis are robust and valid. The rigorous statistical analysis and unbiased methods enable the authors to draw well-supported conclusions that go beyond the existing literature. Their outcomes inform about cellular activity at the individual level and the authors explain how the transient dynamics of single sarcomeres are governed by a force-velocity relationship and lead to the complex contractile patterns. The similarity of the results to the study cited in [24] demonstrates the validity of the in vitro setup for answering these questions and the feasibility of such in-vitro systems to extend our knowledge of out-of-equilibrium dynamics in cardiac cells.

Very interesting the suggestion that the interplay between intrinsic fluctuations and the dynamic instability are part of a feedback mechanism for maintaining structural and functional homeostasis.

The addition of the theoretical model and the new text of the manuscript improves the clarity of the study.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

Sarcomeres, the contractile units of skeletal and cardiac muscle, contract in a concerted fashion to power myofibril and thus muscle fiber contraction.

Muscle fiber contraction depends on the stiffness of the elastic substrate of the cell, yet it is not known how this dependence emerges from the collective dynamics of sarcomeres. Here, the authors analyze contraction time series of individual sarcomeres using live imaging of fluorescently labeled cardiomyocytes cultured on elastic substrates of different stiffness. They find that a reduced collective contractility of muscle fibers on unphysiologically stiff substrates is partially explained by a lack of synchronization in the contraction of individual sarcomeres.

This lack of synchronization is at least partially stochastic, consistent with the notion of a tug-of-war between sarcomeres on stiff sarcomeres. A particular irregularity of sarcomere contraction cycles is 'popping', the extension of sarcomers beyond their rest length. The statistics of 'popping' suggest that this is a purely random process.

Strengths:

This study thus marks an important shift of perspective from whole-cell analysis towards an understanding the collective dynamics of coupled, stochastic sarcomeres.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

The manuscript of Haertter and coworkers studied the variation of the length of a single sarcomere and the response of microfibrils made by sarcomeres of cardiomyocytes on soft gel substrates of varying stiffness.

The measurements at the level of a single sarcomere are an important new result of this manuscript. They are done by combining the labeling of the sarcomeres z line using genetic manipulation and a sophisticated tracking program using machine learning. This single sarcomere analysis shows strong heterogeneities of the sarcomeres that can show fast oscillations not synchronized with the average behavior of the cell and what the authors call popping eveents which are large amplitude oscillations. Another important result is the fact that cardiomyocyte contractility decreases with the substrate stiffness, although the properties of single sarcomeres do not seem to depend on substrate stiffness.

The authors suggest that the cardiomyocyte cell behavior is dominated by sarcomere heterogeneity. They show that the heterogeneity between sarcomere is stochastic and that the contribution of static heterogeneity (such as composition differences between sarcomeres) is small.

Strengths:

All the results are, to my knowledge, new and original. The authors also made a theoretical model where each sarcomere is described by a Langevin equation based on a non-linear coupling between force and velocity of the sarcomeres. This model accounts well for the experimental results including the observation of what the authors call popping events.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Actin filaments and their kinetics have been the subject of extensive research, with several models for filament length control already existing in the literature. The work by Rosario et al. focuses instead on bundle length dynamics and how their fluctuations can inform us on the underlying kinetics. Surprisingly, the authors show that irrespective of the details, typical "balance point" models for filament kinetics give the wrong scaling of bundle length variance with mean length compared to experiments. Instead, the authors show that if one considers a bundle made of several individual filaments, length control for the bundle naturally emerges even in the absence of such a mechanism at the individual filament level. Furthermore, the authors show that the fluctuations of the bundle length display the same scaling with respect to the average as experimental measurements from different systems. This work constitutes a simple yet nuanced and powerful theoretical result that challenges our current understanding of actin filament kinetics and helps relate accessible experimental measurements such as actin bundle length fluctuations to their underlying kinetics. Finally, I found the manuscript to be very well written, with a particularly clear structure and development, which made it very accessible.

Comments on revisions:

I maintain my original favorable assessment of this manuscript.

I thank the authors for considering my comments and for their thoughtful replies. It would have been helpful to see some of the comments reflected in the text and discussion. I leave this to the authors.

I appreciate that the authors replaced the figures with higher-resolution versions, but I maintain my assessment that the graphical and aesthetic quality of the figures, especially the size of the legends (which are often tiny and difficult to read), labels, colors, etc., could be improved. Again, I leave this to the authors.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

The authors present a theoretical study of the length dynamics of bundles of actin filaments. They first show that a "balance point model" in which the bundle is described as an effective polymer. The corresponding assembly and disassembly rates can depend on bundle length. This model generates a steady-state bundle-length distribution with a variance that is proportional to the average bundle length. Numerical simulations confirm this analytic result. The authors then present an analysis of previously published length distributions of actin bundles in various contexts and argue that these distributions have variances that depend quadratically with the average length. They then consider a bundle of N independent filaments that each grow in an unregulated way. Defining the bundle length to be that of the longest filament, the resulting length distribution has a variance that does scale quadratically with the average bundle length.

The manuscript is very well written, and the computations are nicely presented. The work gives fundamental insights into the length distribution of filamentous actin structures. The universal dependence of the variance on the mean length is of particular interest. It will be interesting to see in the future how many universality classes there are, and which features of a growth process determine to which class it belongs.

Comments on revisions:

I thank the authors for their detailed and thorough answers to the points that had been raised. I have no further recommendations.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

The factors that create and maintain diversity in host-associated microbiomes remain poorly understood. A better understanding of these factors will help in the efforts to leverage the adaptive potential of the microbiome to help solve pressing problems in health and agriculture.

Experimental evolution provides a promising path forward as we can track the causes and consequences in the emergence of novel variants, but experimental evolution remains underutilized in host-microbiome interactions. Here, Gracia-Alvira utilizes a long-term experimental evolution study in Drosophila simulans under hot and cold temperature regimes to identify strain-level variation in an important fly bacterium, Lactiplantibacillus plantarum. They identify three strains of L. plantarum, which are most prevalent in their respective three temperature regimes, suggesting that these are locally adapted bacteria. Then, using a combination of genomics, in vitro, and in vivo, Gracia-Alvira et al attempt to understand the factors that led to the differentiation of the hot and cold L. plantarum and their impacts on the fly host.

Strengths:

This is an excellent use of experimental evolution to track the emergence of novelty in the microbiome. The genomic analyses are all solid and appropriate for the data sets. It is especially striking that the comparisons with the other, independent experimental evolution studies in different labs (and across continents between Portugal and South Africa) show a consistent response to temperature. Many have disregarded the microbiome as it is something that is too sensitive to seemingly innocuous variables (particularly in the fly microbiome), such that we cannot find generalities. However, this finding highlights the potential for experimental evolution to uncover these dynamics. The question of how strains emerge and are maintained is timely and is one of the key open questions in host-microbiome evolution currently.

Weaknesses:

(1) The framing in the title and throughout the discussion about "subspecies competition" does not match the data that was collected. The subspecies competition requires actually tracking the competitive outcomes between the hot, cold, and unevolved L. plantarum. In the in vivo work, I can see that mixes of the strains were made, but they did not track whether the cold strain outcompeted the hot strain in vivo under cold conditions, for example. While Figure 4 is suggestive that there is ongoing competition in the hot temperature regime, this is not necessarily shown in the cold, which is dominated by the C clade. It could also be that the bacteria cannot survive in the flies at the different temperatures. The growth curve assays hint that the bacteria can grow, but the plate reader couldn't actually maintain the 18 {degree sign}C temperature (line 455). So all of this evidence is very indirect and insufficient to say that strain competition is driving these patterns.

(2) The in vivo results are interesting in that there appears to be a fitness cost of clade C, but the explanation is underdeveloped. I say under-developed because in Figure 4, the cold L. plantarum remains much higher throughout adaptation to the hot temperature regime than the hot L. plantarum in the cold regime. The hot L. plantarum is low abundance throughout the cold regime. I felt like this observation was not explained, but it seems relevant to understanding the strain dynamics.

I will also note that this is not the first time that L. plantarum or other Lactobacillus have been shown to exert fitness costs to Drosophila. Gould, PNAS, 2018, shows that both Lactobacillus plantarum and Lactobacillus brevis in mono-association have lower fitness (measured through Leslie matrix projections using lifespan and fecundity) than axenic flies. Many studies of wild Drosophila fail to find Lactobacillus, or it is low abundance (e.g., Chandler, PLoS Genetics, 2014; Wang, Environmental Microbiology Reports, 2018; Henry & Ayroles, Molecular Ecology, 2022; Gale, AEM, 2025). This might help provide useful context for the in vivo results.

(3) The data in Figure 4 are compelling to focus on the L. plantarum variants. However, I can see from the methods that the competitive mapping included only other strains of Wolbachia. It is not clear how other members of the microbiome changed in response to the temperature regimes. As I note in point #2, given that Lactobacillus is often rare, it is not clear what the rest of the microbiome looks like over the course of adaptation. Indeed, it seems like Mazzucco & Schlotterer, PRSB, 2021 did a broader analysis of the microbiome and found that Acetobacter is by far the most common bacterium (I think this data is also part of the data shown here?). Expanding on why or why not in this context is important and will improve this study, particularly if the focus is on connecting these evolutionary dynamics to ecological competition to explain the emergence of strain diversity.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

In this manuscript, Gracia-Alvira et al. investigated how environmental temperature affects competition among members of the microbiome, with a focus on intraspecific diversity, using the Drosophila model.

Notably, the authors identified three clades of Lactiplantibacillus plantarum from a natural population of Drosophila simulans collected in Florida. They tracked the dynamics of these three bacterial clades under two temperature conditions over the course of more than ten years. Using comparative genomics and phylogeny, they showed that these three bacterial clades likely adapted to their host independently in a temperature-specific manner. Further, by combining in vitro culture and in vivo mono-association assays, they demonstrated the functional divergence of these three bacterial clades phenotypically, including their growth dynamics and effects on host fitness. Lastly, they performed pathway analysis and speculated on key genomic variance supporting such functional divergence.

Strengths:

The laboratory evolutionary experiment in response to cold or hot environmental temperature is impressive, given its more than ten years of experimental time period. This collection of achieved microbiome samples paired with the fly host data can be a valuable resource for the field.

Weaknesses:

The laboratory evolutionary experiment can be limited due to its artificial experimental setup. For example, wild flies rely on a more diverse set of food sources and are constantly exposed to new bacterial inoculations, whereas under laboratory conditions, flies live in a more restricted ecosystem. In addition, environmental temperatures differ among different locations, but they also involve seasonal changes within the same region. This manuscript can be strengthened with further discussions that elaborate on these limitations.

Moreover, the extent of host effects involved in these experiments remains ambiguous, because it is unclear whether these Lactiplantibacillus plantarum mostly reside within fly guts or on Drosophila medium. The laboratory evolutionary experiment possibly favored better colonizers on Drosophila medium under either cold or hot temperatures, which subsequently can saturate fly guts. As fully dissociating these variables can be experimentally tedious, the authors may want to comment more on these aspects in the discussion. Or they may want to consider some measurements. For example, measuring the growth rate of these bacteria on Drosophila medium under different temperatures, in addition to the current MRS culture experiments, or measuring the portion of the Lactiplantibacillus on Drosophila medium versus these stably colonizing fly guts.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

Summary:

The study presents an analysis of 297 pangenomes derived from 20 populations of Drosophila simulans, at 19 time points for fast-reproducing individuals in a hot environment, or at 10 time points for slow-reproducing individuals in a cold environment, over a period of more than 10 years. The authors select a particular microbial component of the pangenomes and study the dynamics of Lactiplantibacillus plantarum strains in two environments. They discover that the revealed operational taxonomic units could be divided into three phylogenetic clades, which have their own genomic and genetic features, different adaptive capabilities that depend on the environment, and have a distinct impact on the fitness of the host.

Strengths:

The authors prove that bacterial microbiome components are sensitive to the environment and could rapidly (years) be fixed in eukaryotic populations. This study establishes a tractable model that potentially enables the study of variability of the physiological influence of distinct strains of an important commensal species, Lactiplantibacillus plantarum, on the Drsosophila host. It is clearly shown that this single species consists of several phylogenetically and functionally diverse strains. The authors did not limit their interest to their own model, but rather they have integrated a comparative approach by analysing phylogenetic relationships among 92 described L.plantarum strains.

Overall, the study is novel and delivers important discoveries of a longitudinal, well-replicated experiment, generating a substantial amount of genomic data. It highlights an important dimension of research that environmental selection operates at the subspecies level.

Weaknesses:

Even though the authors show only one particular example by conducting their longitudinal experiment, they honestly acknowledge failures important for interpretation of the biological significance of the results (gnotobiotic mono-association experiments was done with D.melanogaster, but not D. simulans) and therefore they state limitations of their conclusions (weaker effects in the non-axenic flies are due to the presence of other taxa or to higher-order interactions with other members of the microbiome). These interactions could significantly affect bacterial growth, metabolism, and physiological influence on the host.

The authors exploit the results of their experiment to speculate about a wide range of evolutionary phenomena, like within-species competition, ecological adaptation and evolution of the host, fitness advantage of bacteria to the host, the benefits of parasitism or mutualism, the domestication of the microbiome, etc. At the end, they conclude that their study "highlights that even subspecies diversity plays a key role in adaptation to environmental temperature". However, the potential mechanisms of such adaptation are barely discussed, so that the focus of the study shifts from the temperature-induced changes in microbial population structures toward metabolism-related adaptations of clade representatives that enable them to diversify their carbon and nitrogen sources. The role of the temperature factor remains elusive.

In addition to that, the paper has a clearly minimalistic experimental approach to address functional properties of the revealed L.plantarum strains, so that their own fitness, or their relationship with the Drosophila host, is characterised superficially. Therefore, the authors' discourse can be speculative rather than factual (especially when the authors use the expression "likely" to share their guesses in the "Results" section). Nevertheless, these minor drawbacks do not underscore the novelty of the discovered phenotypes and the importance of their further investigation.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Giordano et al. demonstrate that yeast cells expressing separated N- and C-terminal regions of Tfb3 are viable and grow well. Using this creative and powerful tool, the authors effectively uncouple CTD Ser5 phosphorylation at promoters and assess its impact on transcription. This strategy is complementary to previous approaches, such as Kin28 depletion or the use of CDK7 inhibitors. The results are largely consistent with earlier studies, reinforcing the importance of the Tfb3 linkage in mediating CTD Ser5 phosphorylation at promoters and subsequent transcription.

Notably, the authors also observe effects attributable to the Tfb3 linker itself, beyond its role as a simple physical connection between the N- and C-terminal domains. These findings provide functional insight into the Tfb3 linker, which had previously been observed in structural studies but lacked clear functional relevance. Overall, I am very positive about the publication of this manuscript and offer a few minor comments below that may help to further strengthen the study.

Page 4 PIC structures show the linker emerging from the N-terminal domain as a long alpha-helix running along the interface between the two ATPase subunits, followed by a turn and a short stretch of helix just N-terminal to a disordered region that connects to the C-terminal region (see schematic in Fig. 1A).

The linker helix was only observed in the poised PIC (Abril-Garrido et al., 2023), not other fully-engaged PIC structures.

Page 8 Recent structures (reviewed in (Yu et al., 2023)) show that the Kinase Module would block interactions between the Core Module and other NER factors. Therefore, TFIIH either enters into the NER complex as free Core Module, or the Kinase Module must dissociate soon after.

To my knowledge, this is still controversial in the NER field. I note the potential function on the kinase module is likely attributed to the N-terminal region of Tfb3 through its binding to Rad3. Because the yeast strains used in Fig. 6 retain the N-terminal region of Tfb3, the UV sensitivity assay presented here is unlikely to directly address the contribution of the kinase module to NER.

Page 11. Notably, release of the Tfb3 Linker contact also results in the long alpha-helix becoming disordered (Abril-Garrido et al., 2023), which could allow the kinase access to a far larger radius of area. This flexibility could help the kinase reach both proximal and distal repeats within the CTD, which can theoretically extend quite far from the RNApII body.

Although the kinase module was resolved at low resolution in all PIC-Mediator structures, these structural studies consistently reveal the same overall positioning of the kinase module on Mediator, indicating that its localization is constrained rather than variable. This observation suggests that the linker region may help position the kinase module at this specific site, likely through direct interactions with the PIC or Mediator. This idea is further supported by numerous cross-links between the linker region and Mediator (Robinson et al., 2016).

Comments on revisions:

Revised ms clarified all my points, including those I previously misunderstood.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

This work advances our understanding of how TFIIH coordinates DNA melting and CTD phosphorylation during transcription initiation. The finding that untethered kinase activity becomes "unfocused," phosphorylating the CTD at ser5 throughout the coding sequence rather than being promoter-restricted, suggests that the TFIIH Core-Kinase linkage not only targets the kinase to promoters but also constrains its activity in a spatial and temporal manner.

Strengths:

The experiments presented are straightforward and the model for coupling initiation and CTD phosphorylation and for evolution of these linked processes are interesting and novel. The results have important implications for the regulation of initiation and CTD phosphorylation.

Comments on revisions:

The revised version with revisions to figures, text and new data has addressed all of our prior comments.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

Summary:

Eukaryotic gene transcription requires a large assemblage of protein complexes that govern the molecular events required for RNA Polymerase II to produce mRNAs. One of these complexes, TFIIH, comprises two modules, one of which promotes DNA unwinding at promoters, while the other contains a kinase (Kin28 in yeast) that phosphorylates the repeated motif at the C-terminal domain (CTD) of the largest subunit of Pol II. Kin28 phosphorylation of Ser5 in the YSPTSPS motif of the CTD is normally highly localized at promoter regions, and marks the beginning of a cycle of phosphorylation events and accompanying protein association with the CTD during the transition from initiation to elongation.

The two modules of TFIIH are linked by Tfb3. Tfb3 consists of two globular regions, an N-terminal domain that contacts the Core module of TFIIH and a C-terminal domain that contacts the kinase module, connected by a linker. In this paper, Giordano et al. test the role of Tfb3 as a connector between the two modules of TFIIH in yeast. They show that while no or very slow growth occurs if only the C-terminal or N-terminal region of Tfb3 is present, near normal growth is observed when the two unlinked regions are expressed. Consistent with this result, the separate domains are shown to interact with the two distinct TFIIH modules. ChIP experiments show that the Core module of TFIIH maintains its localization at gene promoters when the Tfb3 domains are separated, while localization of the kinase module, and of Ser5 phosphorylation on the CTD of Pol II, is disrupted. Finally, the authors examine the effect of separating the Tfb3 domains on another function of TFIIH, namely nucleotide excision repair, and find little or no effect when only the N-terminal region of Tfb3 or the two unlinked domains are present.

Strengths:

Experiments involving expression of Tfb3 domains in yeast are well-controlled and the data regarding viability, interaction of the separate Tfb3 domains with TFIIH modules, genome-wide localization of the TFIIH modules and of phosphorylated Ser5 CTDs, and of effects on NER, are convincing. The experiments are consistent with current models of TFIIH structure and function and support a model in which Tfb3 tethers the kinase module of TFIIH close to initiation sites to prevent its promiscuous action on elongating Pol II.

Weaknesses:

The work is limited in scope and does not provide major insights into the mechanism of transcription. The main addition to current models of transcription is that tethering of Kin28 to Tfb3 may limit kinase action from occurring downstream from the initiation site.

The first described experiment, which purports to show that three kinases cannot function in place of Kin28 when tethered (by fusion) to Tfb3 is missing the crucial control of showing that Kin28 can support viability in the same context. This result also does not connect with the rest of the manuscript, although the experiment apparently motivated the subsequent studies reported here.

Finally, the authors present the interesting and reasonable speculation that the TFIIH complex and connecting Tfb3 found in mammals and yeast may have evolved from an earlier state in which the two TFIIH subdomains were present as unconnected, distinct enzymes. It will be interesting to have this idea tested more thoroughly as more molecular evolutionary data becomes available.

Comments on revisions:

For the most part, the authors have satisfactorily addressed my previous critique. In particular, they have added to their discussion of evolutionary implications, and performed an experiment casting doubt on the assertion of a dominant negative effect, and as a consequence removed this claim from the manuscript. I also pointed out that the fusion experiments that lead off the Results section are missing the crucial control of including a Tfb3-Kin28 fusion. The authors have elected not to perform this control experiment, pointing out that even this control would be imperfect in some respects, and agreeing that this experiment is somewhat disconnected from the rest of the paper. The reason for including it, in spite of its somewhat tangential nature, is that it provides something of a rationale for the experiments that follow. I don't so much mind their retaining the experiment, as the absence of this control (and indeed, the results) does not so much impact the later results. However, I think if it is to be included, this shortcoming should be explicitly recognized, especially as a service to younger scientists who could benefit from an exposition that includes a thorough consideration of potential control experiments.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

The authors address whether theta/beta ratio /TBR) can be used as a clinical biomarker for ADHD.

Strengths:

The data were acquired independently from 2 separate datasets, and there are sufficient subjects for adequate statistical power. The authors applied up-to-date EEG data preprocessing, state-of-the-art feature extraction, and statistical analyses, using a multiverse approach. By testing and comparing all meaningful approaches, defined a priori in the previous meta-analysis, the author convincingly demonstrates that TBR cannot be used as a clinical biomarker, and previous positive results can be explained by interactions between different factors (alpha peak frequency, aperiodic component, age).

Weaknesses:

There are no apparent issues with data, separate datasets, large sample sizes, and state-of-the-art data analysis.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

This manuscript examines whether the theta-beta ratio as derived from EEG data relates to ADHD diagnoses. To do so, it performs a multiverse analysis across a large number of analytical choices, applied to a large EEG dataset, and corroborated in an additional validation set. The results overall show that the TBR is not a reliable indicator of ADHD diagnosis. In discussing the patterns of results across analytical choices, the authors also demonstrate some key points about what appears to be driving the ratio measures, noting that significant results appear to be driven by choices regarding aperiodic-correction and the use of individualized alpha frequencies, suggesting TBR measures can be affected by these features rather than reflecting theta and/or beta activity.

Strengths:

This manuscript addresses a clearly posed and important question in the literature, addressing a longstanding discussion on the relationship between TBR and ADHD, and uses a large dataset and an expansive analysis approach to provide a definitive answer. The strengths of the approach allow for a clear answer, providing a notable contribution to the field.

Weaknesses:

I find no notable weaknesses in the current manuscript nor any major issues that I think challenge the key findings of this manuscript.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

Summary:

In this manuscript, Strzelczyk, Vetsch, and Langer tackle an incredibly important question in clinical neuroscience: the use of the theta/beta ratio as a biomarker of attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD). The theta/beta ratio is argued to be so reliable as an ADHD biomarker that, in the United States, the Food and Drug Administration has approved its use as a biomarker for ADHD diagnosis. However, there is mounting evidence that the theta/beta ratio is likely not really measuring the relative power between two oscillations - the theta rhythm and the beta rhythm - but rather reflects differences in a singular, non-oscillatory aperiodic process. In this very convincing study, Strzelczyk and colleagues take a "multiverse" analysis approach to show that aperiodic activity differences between healthy controls and people with ADHD are driving the apparent theta/beta ratio differences. While in a vacuum, where a measure is a measure and if it's related to a diagnosis it's still useful no matter what, this distinction might not seem important, from a neuroscientific perspective this is a critical distinction, because the ratio between two oscillations has fundamentally very different underlying physiological mechanisms than aperiodic differences, and this framing has a major impact on guiding research on the diagnosis and treatment of ADHD.

Strengths:

While smaller studies and analyses have already hinted at similar results as shown here, the current study's multiverse analysis approach is comprehensive, convincing, and very well done. The large sample size of 1,499 participants is very impressive, as is the use of an independent validation sample of 381 participants.

Overall, the technical and statistical aspects are very well done: the multiverse approach, the validation set, the resampling methods, and even the shiny apps. The authors should be applauded for being so thorough and making their data and analyses publicly accessible.

Weaknesses:

To be clear, I see no breaking weaknesses in the theoretical foundations, methods, statistical analyses, or interpretations. All of my recommendations below are for the sake of clarity, which I believe is especially important because this is such an important paper that many people should read.

Comments:

(1) Some figures are mislabeled. For example, Supplementary Figure 1 says (C) are scalp topographies, but those are (A), while (C) shows power spectra, but it's unclear what (C) is. I assume it's only the aperiodic part of the spectrum (oscillations removed)? But it would be better to plot on a log-log scale if so.

In fact, I recommend showing all spectra on a log-log scale.

(2) Supplementary Figure 6 is also mislabeled, saying (A) shows age (it does not) and so on.

(3) In Supplementary Figure 7, is (B) the aperiodic-removed spectrum? The authors are very inconsistent with what they're showing in these spectral plots, and not actually explaining what they're showing: raw spectra, semi-logged or not, aperiodic-removed or oscillations-removed, etc.

(4) For the HBN data, it is said that, "electrode impedances were kept below 40 kΩ, lower than EGI's standard recommendation of 50 (Net Station Acquisition Technical Manual)." For the validation data: "... electrode impedances were maintained below 5 kΩ." These are big impedance threshold differences. Of course, these recommendations differ by recording system, the use of active electrodes, and so on. But such differences can certainly influence signal-to-noise. The fact that the results are so consistent between them is a strength that perhaps should be explicitly called out.

(5) The authors cite a lot of foundational / related work here, such as Finley et al, but they should also cite several other highly relevant ones:

- Saad et al., "Is the Theta/Beta EEG Marker for ADHD Inherently Flawed?", J Atten Disord, 2015

- Donoghue, Dominguez, Voytek, "Electrophysiological frequency band ratio measures conflate periodic and aperiodic neural activity", eNeuro, 2020

- Karalunas et al., "Electroencephalogram aperiodic power spectral slope can be reliably measured and predicts ADHD risk in early development", Develop Psychobiol, 2022

- Donoghue, "A systematic review of aperiodic neural activity in clinical investigations", Eur J Neurosci 2025

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

The authors set out to conduct a behavioral comparison of macaque and human vision across a wide range of visual properties. Such a comparison is critical for evaluating the use of macaques as a model system for understanding human vision and the underlying neural mechanisms. This goal represents a unique endeavour since prior studies have typically focused on only highly specific tasks. While the authors found consistent coarse representational structure for objects, evidence for Weber's Law and amodal completion, there was divergence for mirror image confusion and the use of global or local image properties.

Strengths:

There are three major strengths of the study. First, the authors employed a behavioral paradigm (oddball search) that allowed them to test multiple perceptual phenomena without having to train the macaques on the specific type of stimuli tested. Second, humans and macaques could be tested in an identical manner. Third, the authors tested a range of different visual properties and phenomena, allowing a broader comparison between species.

There are also some weaknesses to the study (described below), but that doesn't change the fact that the authors have demonstrated and validated a novel approach for systematic and comprehensive comparisons of vision across species.

Weaknesses:

The weaknesses of the study arise in part because of the breadth of the work. In cases where there are divergences between the two species, it would be helpful to know what might account for such divergence, to have more depth. Is it really a species difference, or could there be a different account? For example, does the difference in mirror image confusion arise because the stimuli were objects that would have been highly familiar to the humans but not the macaques? Further, the authors often used small sets of stimuli (e.g. 8 objects only in the test of object similarity; a small set of highly specific occlusion stimuli), and how well the findings will generalize beyond those stimuli is unclear.

The authors discuss the implications of training macaques to perform specific tasks on specific stimuli in comparing across species. While I agree that extensive training in monkeys could change perception, it is important to also consider that humans have been extensively trained through the types of visual tasks we conduct throughout our lives, so I'm not sure it is universally true that the best comparison is between humans and untrained monkeys. But this just consideration just highlights the general problem of comparing across species.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

The macaque monkey is often considered as the animal model of choice to study the neural correlates of visual perception, due to the close similarities to humans in terms of anatomy, physiology and behaviour (Van Essen and Dierker, 2007; DiCarlo et al., 2012; Roelfsema and Treue, 2014; Picaud et al., 2019; Van Essen et al., 2019; Hesse and Tsao, 2020). Quite some studies have been performed to compare the behaviour of macaque monkeys and humans on visual perception tasks. However, it remains difficult to compare the results of these studies as the methods that are used differ significantly between these studies. Furthermore, behavioural studies of macaque monkeys often involve extensive training as the tasks were relatively hard, making it difficult to compare the results with humans, who generally require very little training. The authors present a set of experiments to compare visual perception between macaque monkeys and humans, using the exact same behavioral task that is easy to learn and therefore requires very little training. As expected, they overall find that the two species behave similarly. However, they find a number of interesting exceptions.

Strengths:

A major strength of the current study is the relatively large number of tasks that were tested in the same subjects. This is made possible by using the oddball visual search task, which macaque monkeys can learn very quickly. This means that few trials are sufficient to obtain a significant difference between conditions, minimizing learning effects. Although this type of task has been used in previous studies (Sablé-Meyer et al., 2021), the current manuscript makes better use of the advantages and explains them more explicitly.

In addition, the study finds a number of interesting differences between macaque monkeys and humans. In particular, while humans can dissociate horizontally mirrored images better than vertically mirrored images, monkeys show no difference between these two conditions (Experiment 4). Also, while humans dissociate images better based on the global shape of a stimulus, monkeys dissociate images better based on local elements of a stimulus (Experiments 5 and 6). Although these findings are largely a replication of previous results, they have not yet been studied together with other tasks within the same individual subjects, and the low number of trials avoids any learning effects.

Weaknesses:

A weakness of the study is that while the objects that were used can be considered to be familiar to humans, they are not familiar to macaque monkeys.

In Experiment 4, humans can be expected to have 3D representations of familiar objects such as a Roman helmet or an office chair. Humans can therefore be expected to have view-invariant representations of these objects, predominantly for rotations around the vertical axis of the object (as movements are most common in the horizontal plane). This can explain why only humans confuse objects more often when mirrored vertically than when mirrored horizontally.

Similarly, in Experiment 5, humans can be expected to be familiar with abstract geometric shapes such as squares and circles, while monkeys likely are not. This could explain why monkeys find it hard to recognize these geometric shapes in the global shape of the stimuli, even when thin grey lines are drawn to connect the local elements that constitute the global shape (Experiment 6). Instead, the combination of local shapes can be expected to form a texture that might be more easily recognized by the monkeys.

More generally, as proposed by Fagot et al, it might well be that monkeys tend to conceive stimuli as a combination of low-level visual features, instead of as references to objects in the outside world, as humans have learned to do (Fagot et al., 2010). This line of critique would be relevant to take into account.

Another weakness could be that only three monkeys are tested, while 24 human subjects are tested. According to some theoretical work, a finding in 3 animals is not sufficient to make a claim about an animal species (Fries and Maris, 2022). However, it seems that the results are largely consistent between the different monkeys. Moreover, the results generally agree with the results from previous literature.

The conclusions by the authors are therefore largely supported by the results. Some results could be strengthened by additional experiments, or at least a more extensive discussion of the potential weaknesses.<br /> The potential impact of the paper is significant, as a start of a comprehensive comparison of visual perception between humans and macaque monkeys, which can inspire other labs to contribute to. This comparison can also be extended to other animal species (e.g. crows and rodents), as well as to different types of artificial neural networks (Leibo et al., 2018).

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

Summary:

In this study, Cherian and colleagues compare visual perception between humans and monkeys using a common oddball visual search task across a battery of perceptual phenomena. By keeping the task constant and varying only the stimulus sets, the authors aim to isolate perceptual similarities and differences between species. Across six experiments, they report that monkeys and humans share similarities in coarse object representations, Weber's law, and amodal completion, but differ in mirror confusion and global/local processing.

Strengths:

A major strength of the study is the unified experimental framework. The authors designed the experiments such that the task procedures are identical across conditions and species, differing only in the images shown. This is a significant methodological advantage, as it minimizes task-related confounds that often complicate cross-species and cross-experiment comparisons. As a result, observed similarities and differences can be more directly attributed to perceptual processes rather than differences in training or task demands. This allows for a more comprehensive evaluation of visual perception than is typical in the literature, where individual studies often focus on a single effect with specialized training. The data are carefully collected, and the analyses are systematic and appropriate for the questions posed.

Weaknesses:

Despite its strengths, the study is largely descriptive and provides limited mechanistic or theoretical explanation for the observed similarities and differences. While the authors document several convergences and divergences between humans and monkeys, there is relatively little discussion of why these patterns arise or how they relate to existing theories of visual processing. As a result, it is difficult to assess the broader implications or generalizability of the findings beyond the specific task and stimuli used.

Relatedly, the rationale for selecting the particular set of perceptual phenomena is not fully developed. Some tasks appear motivated by prior work comparing humans and deep neural networks, but it is unclear whether this set constitutes a representative or theoretically grounded sampling of visual perception. Without a clearer justification, it is difficult to interpret the absence or presence of specific effects (e.g., mirror confusion or global advantage) as reflecting fundamental species similarities/differences.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

This paper describes a complex series of studies that measure and explain object recognition in mice. The authors demonstrate that mice are capable of solving an object recognition task, that object identity is decodable in different regions of cortex, and the decodability, to some extent, can be captured by extant theory on object manifolds in deep neural networks. The authors further add some correlational analysis of the time courses of object discriminability to bolster their claim of an object processing hierarchy in the mouse cortex.

The behavioral and neural data described in this paper are likely to be of interest to the general neuroscience community. That said, I have some issues with the analyses, modeling, and image dataset that I'll detail below.

Strengths:

(1) The behavioral work is incredibly cool. Getting mice to solve this task is a real achievement and opens up new avenues for mice as a model for complex visual tasks.

(2) Similarly, the neural recordings are astounding in their scale.

(3) This could be the most complete demonstration of a primate-analogous object processing network in the mouse.

Weaknesses:

No new weaknesses were noted by this reviewer.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

The paper argues that mice are capable of some view-invariant object recognition and that some of their visual areas (especially LM, LI, and AL) carry linearly-decodable signals that could, in principle, help in this process. Further, it argues that the population code in those areas makes linear decodability easier in two ways (fewer dimensions and a smaller radius).

Strengths:

It is very useful to see the performance of the mice in this difficult task, and to compare it to the performance of neurons in the mouse visual system. It is also useful to see analyses of the neural code that seek to understand how the code in some visual areas may be particularly suited to decoding object identity.

Weaknesses:

Though the paper has improved from the previous submission, there are still some open questions, especially about whether some lower-level properties of the neurons (such as receptive field location) might explain the differences between visual areas. This and other concerns are outlined below.

(1) Do the signals from the visual areas outperform or underperform the mice? It is hard to tell, because for mice we get numbers in percent correct (Figure 1e, based on 2 alternatives), whereas for visual areas we get numbers in bits (Figure 2c, where it is not clear whether there are 2 or 4 alternatives). This makes it very hard to compare the two. The authors should provide a statement or figure where readers can compare the two. Also, if the behavioral data are obtained with 2AFC, why not run the analyses as 2AFC too?

(2) Differences in discriminability across objects (Figure 1f). Are these differences also seen for the model based on the difference of Gaussians? (The authors should add those predictions to the plot.) If so, this could further point to possible low-level explanations. It is already quite interesting that the difference of Gaussians model predicts ~58% accuracy, which is not far from the ~65% accuracy of the mice.

(3) Similarly, in a later figure about decoding visual cortical activity, the authors should show a similar breakdown by object. Are certain objects more decodable than others?

(4) Number of neurons. It is wonderful to see so many neurons (489182, i.e., an average of ~15k per mouse). But might the same neurons have been recorded multiple times? Has a tool like ROICat or similar been run to exclude this? If not, that is ok, but the authors should add a sentence in Results to indicate that these are not unique neurons (some neurons may be duplicates or triplicates).

(5) Retinotopy: "within the same ∼20o area of visual space". This is a useful analysis, but which 20 deg area was considered? Was it the one in front of the mice? This would be surprising, because some of the regions do not cover that area (Zhuang et al, eLife 2017). Was a different area chosen? What are its coordinates in azimuth and elevation? And how does it compare to the region where the stimulus was shown during imaging? The Methods do not explain where the stimulus was placed (only that it was in front of the left eye). This information should be added. Also, the screen covered ~120 deg of visual space (63 cm monitor placed 15 cm away), so the emphasis on a 20 deg area is not clear. The authors should provide a figure showing coverage of the screen by each visual area and the position of the stimuli presented during imaging.

(6) If during imaging the stimuli were presented slightly above the horizontal meridian, then a possible explanation for the superiority of LM, AL, and LI is that their receptive fields tend to be in the upper visual field, whereas the rest of the higher visual areas tend to have receptive fields in the lower visual field (Zhuang et al, eLife 2017).

(7) Dimensionality: "number of directions in which this variability is spread". Unless I missed the explanation, the Methods don't provide any information on how the dimensionality is computed. Is it done with cross-validation? If not, noise can be interpreted as having high dimension. There are methods to estimate dimensionality with cross-validation, thus excluding the contribution of noise (e.g., Stringer et al 2019). The authors should confirm that this was done with cross-validation and provide information in the Methods.

(8) Temporal dynamics: "evidence for temporal integration during a trial". Are there really dynamics in the visual responses that last on the scale of seconds? This would be remarkable. Image recognition is usually thought to be done in 100 ms. The long scales presented here are more likely associated with behavioral responses or state responses, or similar. Might there be different brain state correlates in the different cases? For instance, pupil dilation might be different.

(9) Methods: "to ensure animals were in an attentive state (eyes clear and open)". This sounds peculiar. Did the mice ever close their eyes? If so, that's a discovery. Mice keep their eyes open at all times, even when they are sleeping. So, using eye closure for online detection of "inattentive states" does not seem to make sense. (Also, and this is a minor point: why stop a scan when the animal is "inattentive"? Wouldn't one want to acquire the associated data for comparison? Is the point to save disk space?). This whole set of statements is a bit concerning.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

Liao et al. performed a large-scale integrative analysis to explore the function of two cancer genes (BRCA1 and BRCA2) in lung cancer, which is one of the cancers with an extremely high mortality rate. The detailed genetic analysis demonstrated new roles of BRCA1/2 in causing the tumor microenvironment in lung cancer. In particular, the discovery of different mechanisms of BRCA1 and BRCA2 provides an essential foundation for developing drugs that target BRCA1 or BRCA2 in lung cancer therapy.

Strengths:

(1) This study leveraged large-scale genomic and transcriptomic datasets to investigate the prognostic implications of BRCA1/2 mutations in LUAD patients (~2,000 samples). The datasets range from genomics to single-cell RNA-seq to scTCR-seq.

(2) In particular, the scTCR-seq offers a powerful approach for understanding T cell diversity, clonal expansion, and antigen-specific immune responses. Leveraging these data, this study found that BRCA1 mutations were associated with CD8+ Trm expansion, whereas BRCA2 mutations were linked to tumor CD4+ Trm expansion and peripheral T/NK cell cytotoxicity.

(3) This study also performed a comprehensive analysis of genomic variation, gene expression, and clinical data from the TCGA program, which provides an independent validation of the findings from LUAD patients newly collected in this study.

(4) This study provides an exemplary integration analysis using both computational biology and wet bench experiments. The experimental testing in the A549 cell line further supports the robustness of the computational analysis.

(5) The findings of this study offer a comprehensive view of the molecular mechanisms underlying BRCA1 and BRCA2 mutations in LUAD. BRCA1 and BRCA2 are two well-known cancer-related genes in multiple cancers. However, their role in shaping the tumor microenvironment, particularly in lung cancer, is largely unknown.

(6) By focusing on PD-L1-negative LUAD patients, this study demonstrated the molecular mechanisms underlying resistance to immune therapy. These new insights highlight new opportunities for personalized therapeutic strategies to BRCA-driven tumors. For example, they found histone deacetylase (HDAC) inhibitors consistently downregulated 4-R genes in A549 cells.

(7) The deposition of raw single-cell sequencing (including scRNA-seq and scTCR-seq) data will provide an essential data resource for further discovery in this field.

Comments on revisions:

The author has revised accordingly. I have no further comments.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

This study investigates the impact of BRCA1/2 mutations on immunotherapy in lung adenocarcinoma using multi-omics approaches. The work highlights distinct roles of BRCA1 and BRCA2 mutations in shaping immune-related processes, and is logically structured with clearly presented analyses. However, the conclusions rely primarily on descriptive computational analyses and would benefit from additional immunological validation.

Strengths:

By integrating public datasets with in-house data, this study examines the impact of BRCA1/2 mutations on immunotherapy in lung adenocarcinoma from multiple perspectives using multi-omics approaches. The analyses are diverse in scope, with a clear overall logic and a well-organized structure.

Weaknesses:

The study is largely descriptive and would benefit from additional immunological experiments or validation using in vivo models. The fact that the BRCA1 and BRCA2 samples were each derived from a single patient also limits the robustness of the conclusions.

Comments on revisions:

The authors have addressed my concerns satisfactorily

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

[Editors' note: this version has been assessed by the Reviewing Editor without further input from the original reviewers. The authors have addressed most of the comments raised in the previous round of review.]

Summary:

This study addresses the emerging role of fungal pathogens in colorectal cancer and provides mechanistic insights into how Candida albicans may influence tumor-promoting pathways. While the work is potentially impactful and the experiments are carefully executed, the strength of evidence is limited by reliance on in vitro models, small patient sample size, and the absence of in vivo validation, which reduces the translational significance of the findings.

Strengths:

(1) Comprehensive mechanistic dissection of intracellular signaling pathways.

(2) Broad use of pharmacological inhibitors and cell line models.

(3) Inclusion of patient-derived organoids, which increases relevance to human disease.

(4) Focus on an emerging and underexplored aspect of the tumor microenvironment, namely fungal pathogens.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

The authors in this manuscript studied the role of Candida albicans in Colorectal cancer progression. The authors have undertaken a thorough investigation and used several methods to investigate the role of Candida albicans in Colorectal cancer progression. The topic is highly relevant, given the increasing burden of colon cancer globally and the urgent need for innovative treatment options.

Strengths:

Authors have undertaken a thorough investigation and used several methods to investigate the role of Candida albicans in Colorectal cancer progression.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

In this revision the authors address some of the points, but they also make some technical errors. My overall view of the manuscript hasn't changed since the original evaluation.

Previously I noted that SC sparsity presents an issue when comparing to full FC matrices. They authors misinterpreted the Honey et al paper. They resampled ALL entries of the SC matrix (including zeros) from a Gaussian distribution. In effect, this assigns zeros small (but uniform) weights. In Honey et al, the authors resampled only existing edge weights from a gaussian distribution (the rationale at the time was that there might be pushback against the extremely heavy-tailed edge weight distribution). In other words, the zeros are still zeros following this resampling procedure.

That said, I agree that the log transform is likely useful or necessary given edge weight distributions.

In short, I still think that the approach is interesting and meritorious, I just don't think the execution is correct.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

Summary:

In this manuscript, Okuno et al. re-analyze whole-brain imaging data collected in another paper (Brezovec et al., 2024) in the context of the two currently available Drosophila connectome datasets: the partial "FlyEM" (hemibrain) dataset (Scheffer et al., 2020) and the whole-brain "FlyWire" dataset (Dorkenwald et al., 2024). They apply existing fMRI signal processing algorithms to the fly imaging data and compute function-structure correlations across a variety of post-processing parameters (noise reduction methods, ROI size), demonstrating an inverse relationship between ROI size and FC-SC correlation. The authors go on to look at structural connectivity amongst more polarized or less polarized neurons, and suggest that stronger FC-SC correlations are driven by more polarized neurons.

Strengths:

(1) The result that larger mesoscale ROIs have higher correlation with structural data is interesting. This has been previously discussed in Drosophila in Turner et al., 2021, but here it is quantified more extensively.

(2) The quantification of neuron polarization (PPSSI) as applied to these structural data is a promising approach for quantifying differences in spatial synapse distribution. The revision now uses morphological cable length for some analyses rather than straight-line distance, which improves the realism and interpretability of these results.

Weaknesses:

One should not score noise/nuisance removal methods solely by their impact on FC-SC correlation values, because we do not know a priori that direct structural connections correspond with strong functional correlations. In fact, work in C. elegans, where we have access to both a connectome and neuron-resolution functional data, suggests that this relationship is weak (Yemini et al., 2021; Randi et al., 2023). Similarly, I don't think it's appropriate to tune the confidence scores on the EM datasets using FC-SC correlations as an output metric. While it is likely that some FC-SC relationship does exist at large scales, it does not in my view justify use of this metric for evaluating noise removal methods, since such methods may inadvertently remove real neural correlates. This concern remains unaddressed in the revision.

Any discussion of FC-SC comparisons should include an analysis of excitatory/inhibitory neurotransmitters, which are available in the fly connectome dataset. The authors examine the ratios of input and output neurotransmitters in different defined regions. However, I think it would be more useful to integrate the neurotransmitter information more fully into the assessment of SC, for instance: examining the signed weight (excitatory - inhibitory), or by examining the excitatory and inhibitory networks separately.

Comparisons between fly and human MRI data are also premature here. Firstly, the fly connectomes, which are derived from neuron-scale EM reconstructions, are a qualitatively different kind of data from human connectomes, which are derived from DSI imaging of large-scale tracts. Likewise, calcium data and fMRI data are very different functional data acquisition methods-the fact that similar processing steps can be used on time-series data does not make them surprisingly similar, and does not in my view constitute evidence of "similar design concepts."

The comparison of FlyEM/FlyWire connectomes concludes that differences are more likely a result of data processing than of inter-individual variability. If this is the case, the title should not claim that the manuscript covers individual variability.<br /> The analysis of the wedge-AVLP neuron strikes me as highly speculative, given that the alignment precision between the connectome and the functional data is around 5 microns (Brezovec* et al, PNAS 2024).

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

In this manuscript, the authors aim to determine the ligand on Plasmodium falciparum infected erythrocytes for the NK cell integrin, LFA-1, following up on previous evidence that LFA-1 is important for immune cell-mediated recognition of iRBCs.

They start by incubating LFA-1 with iRBCs and show by flow analysis that a substantial population of these iRBCs binds to the LFA-1 (Fig 1C). They do conduct the control with uninfected RBCs, but put this in the supplementary material. As this is a critical control, I think that it should be moved to Figure 1C as it is essential to allow interpretation of the iRBC data. The authors also do not state which strain of P. falciparum they used (line 144). This is critical information, as different strains have different variant surface antigens and should be included. With these changes, this data seems convincing.

They next incubated LFA-1 with the iRBCs, cross-linked and conducted a pulldown, identifying GP130 as a binding partner. Using cross-linkers is a dangerous strategy as it risks non-specific cross-linking. Did they try without cross-linking and find an interaction?

They raised antibodies to PfGBP and showed IFA, which reveals that these antibodies stain iRBCs (Figure 2Ciii). This experiment lacks a critical control of uninfected RBCs, which needs to be included to show that the staining is specific. Without this, it is not possible to conclude that there is iRBC-specific staining with PfGBP.

They then conduct a pulldown using LFA-Fc, which does show GP130 only in the presence of the LFA-Fc, but not when empty beads are used. This is convincing. BLI measurements are also used to study this interaction (Figure 2Ci). The BLI data is presented in such a way that any association phase is obscured by the y-axis, which makes it impossible to know whether there is binding here. I think that the data needs to be shown with some baseline before the addition of the ligand so that association can be seen. The data is also a bit messy with a downward drift and the curves showing different shapes, for example, with the 1.0uM curve seeming to have a different association rate. As this is the only data which shows a direct interaction between LFA1 and GBP, as pulldowns are done with lysates, which might mean bridging components. I think that it is important to repeat the BLI, or use additional biophysical methods to assess binding, to obtain more convincing data.

The authors next do some modelling of the putative complex. This is done by homology modelling and docking, which is not the most up-to-date method and is overinterpreted. Personally, I would remove this data as I did not find it convincing and it is not important for the story. If the authors wish to include it, then I think that they should validate the modelling by mutagenesis to show that the residues which the models indicate might bind are involved in the interaction.

They next made GP130 and tested the binding of this to THP-1 cells, which are often used as a model for macrophages. They observe greater binding of PfGBP-Fc to these cells when compared with hIgG and show that LFA-1 siRNA reduces this binding. I was a little confused about how the flow plots related to the graph in the bottom right corner of Figure 3Bii. In the flow plots, hIgG control shows 12.8% of cells in the gated region, while the unstained cells has 5.63%, but the MFI data shows a decrease in binding for hIgG vs unstained cells. How is this consistent? Also the siRNA reduces the number of cells in gated region from 66.6% to 25.9%, which is still substantially more that 5.63% in the unstained control. This also doesn't seem quite consistent with the MFI data. Could the authors explain this? Also perhaps an additional experiment would be to add soluble LFA-1 into this assay as an additional control to determine whether this blocks PfGBP binding to the THP-1 cells? It could. Be that there are additional mechanisms of binding which indicate why the siRNA has a partial effect. The same is true for the NK cell experiments in Figure 3Ci in which the siRNA has a partial effect. The authors also test binding to HEK, HepG2 and 'stem' cells and claim 'only background levels of binding', but in each case, there is more binding to these cells by PfGBP-Fc than by hIgG, albeit less than in THP-1 and NK cells. Why have the authors decided that these increases are not significant? All in all, these experiments do indicate a role for the GBP-LFA1 interaction in the binding of immune cells to iRBCs, but perhaps not as absolutely as is suggested.

The authors next produce CHO cells with PfGBP on the surface. These cells bind to LFA-1 specifically. When these cells were incubated with primary NK cells, they did see increases in activation markers, which were reduced by addition of antiCD11a, suggesting these to be specific. They also conduct the same experiment with anti-GBP with iRBCs but this is in a different figure. It would be easier for the reader if Figure 5B were in the same figure as Figure 4B as it is related data using the same method. I found this data convincing, showing that the LFA1:GBP interaction does contribute to immune cell recognition and activation.

The authors next conduct an experiment in which they assess parasite growth in the presence of NK cells and in the presence of anti-GBP. They use Heochst staining as a measure of parasite growth and claim that NK cells reduce the number of parasites, but that anti-GBP abolishes this effect (Figure 5A). I found this experiment very unconvincing as there are small effects and no demonstration of significance. More commonly used approaches to study parasite growth are lactate dehydrogenase GIA assays or calcein-AM labelling. I did not find this experiment convincing and would either remove or supplement with additional data using a more robust assay, with repeats and tests of statistical significance.

In summary, the authors present a set of data which comes together to indicate an interaction between LFA1 and PfGBP on the Plasmodium infected erythrocyte surface. Pulldown studies show convincingly that these two proteins co-precipitate and BLI data suggest that this is direct. Also convincing is that NK cell activation can be reduced using antibodies against either LFA1 or PfGBP, indicating that this interaction does play a role in immune cell recognition of iRBCs.

Comments on revised version:

The authors made some minor changes in response to my review, but did not present any substantial new data to demonstrate a direct interaction between PfGBP and LFA1 or to convincingly show differences in NK cell-mediated killing.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

The authors used an LFA-1 αI-Fc fusion protein to pull down potential ligands and LC-MS/MS, leading to selection of PfGBP-130 as a potential membrane protein on the surface of infected cells. PfGBP-130 antibodies were raised and used to support the surface localization. This putative ligand interacted strongly with LFA-1 (Kd = 15 nM). A presumed PfGBP-130 ectodomain interacts with monocytes and NK cells but not cells that lack LFA-1. PfGBP-130 antibodies also interfered with NK cell-mediated infected cell killing; the effect, although statistically significant, is modest. The authors propose that NK cells recognize infected cells via LFA-1 interaction with PfGBP-130 exposed on the host cell and that this interaction is critical to initiation of NK cell activation and killing of infected cells.

Comments on revised version:

The authors submit a minimally revised manuscript that does not address any of my comments, as itemized here:

(1) This reviewer suggested immunoblotting with hypotonic lysis and alkaline extraction as a simple test of whether PfGBP-130 is a membrane protein as the authors propose despite PEXEL cleavage that removes a signal peptide they originally proposed to be a TM domain. Instead of performing this simple immunoblot, the authors state that it is unnecessary because their LC-MS/MS of membrane-associated proteins recovered PfGBP-130, it must be a membrane protein. Unfortunately, this is insufficient because the high sensitivity of LC-MS/MS leads to detection of many soluble proteins. (For example, it is almost certain that their LC-MS/MS recovered hemoglobin, which is soluble and not a surface-exposed protein on infected cells.)

(2) I also suggested a simple immunoblot using a few different immature-stage cultures to detect the full-length and pre-proteins of PfGBP-130 because their immunoblot detected only a 95 kDa band whereas the PEXEL-processed protein is expected to migrate at 85 kDa. The authors state this is unnecessary because their LC-MS/MS of LFA-1 pulldowns enriched for PfGBP-130 and that a single band was detected in immunoblots. This is insufficient because pulldowns often enrich for more than one protein (e.g. some proteins adsorb onto the immunoprecipitation beads or precipitate with beads in certain buffers); immunoblotting often fails to detect some proteins depending on stringency of blocking and wash buffers. They state that the processed form at 85 kDa "may not be well resolved under our current conditions" as a reason not to perform the simple experiment. This reviewer's original statement that P. falciparum antigens frequently cross-react with nominally specific antibodies (with two examples provided in my original review) remains an important concern that would undermine the authors' main conclusion.

(3) As PfGBP-130 is not essential, a knockout was suggested to more directly test their model given the above concerns. The authors state this cannot be done and that their "multiple orthogonal approaches" suggest it is unnecessary. This reviewer considers this an essential experiment to support a provocative, fundamentally new finding, such as the identification of the NK cell activation ligand.

(4) This reviewer suggested that the authors add some speculation about why PfGBP-130 is retained in parasites if triggers NK cell-mediated killing and is nonessential. Rather than adding relevant hypotheses to the Discussion, the authors appear to dismiss this suggestion by stating that PfEMP1, STEVOR, and RIFIN are retained despite being nonessential. The problem with this response is that each of these other antigens has a clearly defined role on the surface of infected erythrocytes that benefits the parasite. It is not clear that the authors have considered possible advantages the parasite may gain from exposing PfGBP-130 on the red cell surface.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

Summary:

Malhotra and colleagues present evidence that the integrin LFA-1 on NK cells is a ligand for the Plasmodium falciparum protein GBP130 on the infected erythrocyte surface and that this interaction plays a role in the clearance of infected erythrocytes by NK cells.

The authors first select a subdomain contained within the CD11a subunit of LFA-1 as a probe to discover possible binding proteins on the infected erythrocyte surface. Parasite-infected erythrocytes stained positively with this probe; the level of staining increased as the parasites progressed through the life cycle. Using the LFA-1-based probe in cross-linking pull-down experiments, GBP130 was identified by mass spectrometry as a co-purifying parasite protein. The N-terminal portion of GBP130 was recombinantly expressed and shown to interact with LFA-1 alpha-I by biolayer interferometry experiments. The full-length extracellular domain of GBP130 was then recombinantly expressed and used to stain primary human NK cells and THP-1 cells. Knocking down LFA-1 by siRNA reduced staining by GBP130. To assess the contribution of GBP130 to the activation of NK cells, CHO cells exogenously expressing GBP130 were incubated with primary NK cells. Transfecting CHO cells with GBP130 led to increased activation of co-incubated NK cells compared to mock-transfected and compared to GBP130 transfected cells, with the inclusion of anti-CD11a to block NK cell adhesion. Finally, CHO cells expressing GBP130 led to increased activation of NK cells compared to mock-transfected CHO cells.

Overall, although the authors present data from NK cell killing assays that include appropriate controls, the data suggesting a direct interaction between PfGBP-130 and LFA-1 does not include the same necessary controls, for example, the use of blocking antibodies. Most critically, the biolayer interferometry experiments use a recombinant fragment of PfGBP-130, which does not include the residues predicted to be important for mediating specific interaction with LFA1. The biolayer interferometry data instead suggest non-specific interactions between PfGBP-130 and LFA1, as binding does not reach saturation.

Comments on revised version:

The authors have addressed all minor concerns, however the major point regarding the biophysical data supporting direct interaction between PfGB130 and LFA-1, in my opinion, has not been satisfactorily addressed. Biophysical data supporting the interaction was generated using a fragment of PfGB130, which does not include residues that the authors predict by structural modelling to be important for the interaction. The authors argue that PfGB130 is a repeat containing protein and may have multiple binding sites for LFA-1. If this is the best mechanistic hypothesis given the current data, the authors need to explain this in the results section.

Overall though, I agree with Reviewer#1 that the structural modelling results are not convincing and given that the modelling data do not straightforwardly agree with the experiment, the clarity of the manuscript would benefit from their omission.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

In this study, the authors investigate responses to methionine in the olfactory system of the Xenopus tadpole. They show that the LFP response is local to the glomerular layer, arises ipsilaterally, and is blocked by pharmacological blockade of AMPA and NMDA receptors, with little modulation during blockade of GABA-A receptors. They then show that this response is translently enlarged following transection of the contralateral olfactory nerve, but not the optic lobe nerve. Measurement of ROS- a marker of inflammation- was not affected by contralateral nerve transection, and LFP expansion was not affected by pharmacological blockade of ROS production. Imaging biased towards presynaptic terminals suggests that the enlargement of the LFP has a presynaptic component. A D2 antagonist increases the LFP size and variability in intact tadpoles, while a GABA-B antagonist does not. Finally, the authors provide anatomical and physiological evidence that the contralateral dopamine signal may arise from the lateral pallium. Overall, I found the array of techniques and approaches applied in this study to be creatively and effectively employed.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

The authors convincingly demonstrate that when PKMzeta is genetically deleted from the hippocampus, the related atypical PKC, PKClambda is upregulated and compensates both neurophysiologically and behaviorally for the missing PKMzeta. Specifically, the upregulatiion of PKClambda supports late-phase hippocampal long-term potentiation (L-LTP) and long-term spatial memory in the PKMzeta knockout mice.

Strengths:

The study uses up-to-date transgenic techniques to alter the expression of the two atypical PKCs. The synaptic and behavioral experiments are well-controlled and appear to have been carefully executed.

Weaknesses:

None

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

The authors significantly advance understanding of the role of unconventional PKC's, PKCM𝛇 and PKC𝜄/𝝀 in maintenance of late-phase LTP. Their results help to clarify the interplay between "structural" and "biochemical/enzymatic" mechanisms of LTP and learning in the hippocampus.

Strengths:

A strength is the use of state-of-the-art conditional knock-outs of PKCM𝛇 and PKC𝜄/𝝀 to confirm that PKC𝜄/𝝀 compensates for KO of PKCM𝛇 in the hippocampus to maintain long-term potentiation even when PKCM𝛇 is conditionally knocked out in the adult. The authors use both electrophysiological and behavioral methods to assess the effects of genetic manipulations on late-phase LTP and long-term memory. The authors present an informative discussion of the possible molecular mechanisms that may enable compensation by PKC𝜄/𝝀 for KO of PKCM𝛇 in the hippocampus. They correctly emphasize that the notions of "structural" and "enzymatic" mechanisms for maintenance of LTP are not mutually exclusive. With this publication, the experimental case for a role of PKCM𝛇 in maintenance of late-phase LTP is now quite strong.

Weaknesses:

There are no significant weaknesses.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

The manuscript by Tang et al. characterizes the expression dynamics and functional roles of aldehyde dehydrogenase 1 activity in uterine physiology. Using a combination of in vivo lineage tracing and cell ablation coupled with organoid culture, the authors propose that Aldh1a1 lineage-marked cells contribute to uterine gland development and epithelial regeneration. The descriptive data will be of interest to reproductive biologists and clinicians and will build on established hypotheses in the field. The manuscript is well written and scientifically sound; however, several experimental limitations and interpretation caveats should be addressed.

The methods surrounding the passage number and duration of culture following sorting prior to transcriptomic profiling should be clarified in the figure legends. Related to this, the representative images in Figures 1D and 1E do not appear consistent with the quantification presented in Figures 1F-H and should be reconciled.

The conclusion that ALDH1A1+ cells are enriched in populations with stem cell characteristics relies primarily on transcriptomic analysis. Protein-level co-localization should be performed to strengthen this claim.

The overlap of 19 genes between the data set here and AXIN2 HI data is presented as evidence of shared stemness identity, but no statistical assessment of this overlap is provided. A hypergeometric test should be performed to determine whether this overlap is greater than expected by chance.

The impact of tamoxifen injection on Aldh1a1 expression should be characterized in the neonatal uterus, as tamoxifen itself has known estrogenic activity that could confound interpretation of the lineage tracing results at early postnatal timepoints. Related to this, while low-dose tamoxifen is shown to label individual cells within 24 hours of injection, the translation dynamics of the label following Cre-mediated recombination can require up to 72 hours. The presence of only a few labeled clones at PND8 but multiple separate clones per cross-section at later timepoints warrants discussion and may reflect labeling kinetics rather than clonal expansion.

It would strengthen the in vivo ablation data to validate the degree of cell death following diphtheria toxin treatment directly. It is possible that a general decrease in cell number rather than specific loss of a stem cell population is responsible for the observed reduction in gland number and FOXA2 expression (Tongtong et al 2017).

The lineage tracing data in the postpartum endometrium demonstrate that Aldh1a1-marked cells are present during regeneration, but it remains unclear whether these cells are preferentially activated or expanded in response to tissue injury. Coupling these studies with diphtheria toxin-mediated ablation during active regeneration would more directly test the proposed regenerative role of this population.

The contribution of stromal Aldh1a1 lineage-positive cells is underexplored in the discussion, given the lineage tracing data showing stromal labeling across multiple timepoints and its potential relevance to mesenchymal-to-epithelial transition.

Finally, the word 'control' may overstate the functional evidence presented. 'Contribute' may be more accurate given the partial and context-dependent nature of the phenotypes observed.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Tang et al. investigated the contribution of Aldh1a1+ cells, as putative stem/progenitor cells, to endometrial development, maintenance during the estrous cycle, and postpartum repair in mouse models. They employed in vitro organoid formation and in vivo lineage tracing models coupled with RNA-seq to test the stem-ness of Aldh1a1+ cells. They found that mouse endometrial cells with high ALDH activity (using the ALDEFLUOR assay) formed more and larger organoids and were enriched for stem/progenitor cell gene signatures. Similar results were shown using endometrial cells from a human patient sample. Epithelial ALDH1A1 expression was shown to be hormonally regulated, becoming more restricted to the glands, a putative epithelial stem cell niche, under estrogen stimulation. Using lineage-tracing initiated postnatally/prepubertally, Aldh1a1+ epithelial cells were shown to expand, contributing to both the luminal and glandular epithelium into adulthood, whereas adult initiation of labeling showed expansion of stromal Aldh1a1+ cells but not epithelial. Postnatal ablation of single-labeled Aldh1a1+ epithelial cells resulted in impaired gland development. Lastly, Aldh1a1-lineage traced cells (adult labeled) were present during postpartum endometrial repair as were epithelial/mesenchymal transitional cells.

This study addresses an important area of research in the field of endometrial stem/progenitor cell biology. The authors are commended for their use of multiple complementary methods, including lineage tracing, DTR-mediated cell ablation, organoid assays, and RNA-seq in mouse and human models to assess the stem-like nature of Aldh1a1+ cells. The data support the stem/progenitor phenotype of Aldh1a1+ epithelial cells during endometrial development; however, there are noted discrepancies between organoid formation assays and lineage tracing experiments regarding the stemness of Aldh1a1+ epithelial cells in adults. Specifically, organoids were generated from adult cells and demonstrated in vitro stem cell activity; however, in vivo lineage-tracing of adult cells either during the estrous cycle or postpartum repair does not show expansion of Aldh1a1+ cells, suggesting they do not have stem/progenitor activity. Additionally, the stem-ness of epithelial vs stromal Aldh1a1+ cells is confounded in the study because epithelial cells were not purified for organoid experiments, epithelial cells were not exclusively lineage-traced as stromal cells were also labeled, and mesenchymal-epithelial transition was suggested to occur during postpartum repair. The following specific comments are presented to detail these concerns:

(1) The statement in the brief summary, "...critical for lifelong endometrial regeneration," is not supported by the data provided.

(2) AlDH1A1 is not restricted to the endometrial epithelium, and epithelial cells were not purified by flow cytometry for experiments in Figure 1. Figure 2 clearly shows the presence of mesenchymal cells, even using the described method for enriching for epithelial cells. Therefore, contaminating mesenchymal cells with high ALDH activity may confound the experimental results in Figure 1, either through promoting epithelial cell growth or through MET. The authors should provide clear evidence of epithelial purity in organoid experiments or that mesenchymal cells are not contained in the ALDHhi population. These comments also apply to the human organoid experiments in Figure 7.

(3) Lines 186-187: Susd2 was increased in EpSC clusters, yet this is a mesenchymal stem/progenitor marker in humans. The authors should discuss the implications of this.

(4) In Figure 5, RFP+ epithelial cells should be quantified as in previous figures to substantiate the statement in lines 279-280, "At PPD5, the proportion of RFP+ epithelial cells had expanded relative to PPD1 and PPD3 (Figure 5E-E')." Especially because in the low mag images (C-E), RFP+ epithelial cells appear to be most abundant at PPD1 and decrease at PPD3 and PPD5, suggesting that they may not be involved in endometrial regeneration/repair (contradicting the interpretation in line 285). Further, if there is in fact a decrease over postpartum repair, then regeneration should be removed from the title of the manuscript. RFP+ stromal cells should also be quantified.

(5) For Figure 7F, it should be clearly stated in the main text that the results are from one patient sample and the data presented are experimental replicates, so as not to be confused with biological replicates (the same for Supplementary Figure S4). Were B and G in Figure 7 also from one patient?

(6) Lines 425-427: "Ovariectomized mice treated with 90-day E2 pellets, on the other hand, showed a complete restriction of ALDH1A1 to the glandular crypts." In Figure 2 S' ALDH1A1+ cells are visible in the LE (the staining is lighter than in the GE but looks real), contradicting this statement.

(7) Lines 466-467: "In cycling mice, we found sporadic cells that expressed both stromal and epithelial markers in the ALDHA1+ cells." These data are not presented.

(8) These data support the role of Aldh1a1+ cells in endometrial epithelial development, but conclusions about their role in repair/regeneration should be tempered as the data are much weaker here.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

Summary:

Tan et al demonstrated the importance of ALDH-high cells in the epithelial development in the mouse endometrium, and these cells displayed properties of stem cells.

Strengths:

The findings are solid, supported and validated through a combination of technical methods. I appreciated this combined use of mouse and human endometrial cells to strengthen the findings. Genomic results from a single-cell sequencing dataset were informative as they depicted the different stages of the estrus cycle during the regeneration process. Verification with immunostainings with various markers made it convincing for readers to visualize the cell's location, progression, and status at different timepoints. Utilizing human endometrial cells further demonstrated that the phenomenon observed in mice can be translated to humans.

This work will greatly advance the understanding of endometrial regeneration for reproductive biologists.

Weaknesses:

No major weaknesses were identified by this reviewer.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

The authors investigate how methicillin-resistant (MRSA) and sensitive (MSSA) Staphylococcus aureus adapt to a new host (C. elegans) in the presence or absence of a low dose of the antibiotic oxacillin. Using an "Evolve and Resequence" design with 48 independently evolving populations, they track changes in virulence, antibiotic resistance, and other fitness-related traits over 12 passages. Their key finding is that selection from both the host and the antibiotic together, rather than either pressure alone, synergistically results in the evolution of the most virulent pathogens. Genomically, they find that this adaptation repeatedly involves parallel mutations in a small number of key regulatory genes, most notably codY, agr, and saeRS.

Strengths:

The main advantage of the research lies in its strong and thoroughly replicated experimental framework, enabling significant conclusions to be drawn based on the concept of parallel evolution. The study successfully integrates various phenotypic assays (virulence, growth, hemolysis, biofilm formation) with whole-genome sequencing, offering an extensive perspective on the adaptive landscape. The identification of certain regulatory genes as common targets of selection across distinct lineages is an important result that indicates a level of predictability in how pathogens adapt. Furthermore, the detailed mapping of specific parallel mutations provides a highly useful genomic resource for the microbiology community.

Revisions and Re-Appraisal:

In the initial version of the manuscript, a primary limitation was the use of causal language to link specific mutations to phenotypes, despite the evidence from the evolution experiment being correlational. In this revised version, the authors have excellently addressed this limitation. They have meticulously revised the text to accurately reflect these relationships as strong, statistically significant genetic associations rather than confirmed facts. Furthermore, they explicitly acknowledge that future ancestral reconstruction experiments will be required to confirm direct causality. The authors have also appropriately clarified the visual interpretations of their data (such as the PCA clustering) and refined their discussion of mutation rates. With these revisions, the claims made are fully supported by the data presented.

Impact and Context:

The authors successfully achieve their aims, demonstrating that the combined effects of host and antibiotic pressures collaboratively propel the evolution of heightened virulence. While the nematode model does not perfectly mimic human or mammalian infection, the evolutionary principles uncovered here are highly relevant to both evolutionary biology and infectious disease management. The evidence presented is compelling, and the strong correlational hypotheses generated by this study offer a robust and significant basis for upcoming mechanistic research into pathogen adaptation.

Comments on revisions:

I commend the authors for their thorough, thoughtful, and highly constructive revision. You have successfully addressed all of my major and minor comments. The addition of Table S2 and the careful revisions to the causal language have significantly strengthened the manuscript and clarified the data interpretation. I have no further recommendations. Great work!

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

The manuscript describes the results of an evolution experiment where Staphylococcus aureus was experimentally evolved via sequential exposure to an antibiotic followed by passaging through C. elegans hosts. Because infecting C. elegans via ingestion results in lysis of gut cells and an immune response upon infection, the S. aureus were exposed separately across generations to antibiotic stress and host immune stress. Interestingly, the dual selection pressure of antibiotic exposure and adaptation to a nematode host resulted in increased virulence of S. aureus towards C. elegans.

Strengths:

The data presented provide strong evidence that in S. aureus traits involved in adaptation to a novel host and those involved in antibiotic resistance evolution are not traded-off. On the contrary, they seem to be correlated, with strains adapted to antibiotics having higher virulence towards the novel host. As increased virulence is also associated with higher rates of haemolysis, these virulence increases are likely to reflect virulence levels in vertebrate hosts.

Weaknesses:

Right now, the results are presented in the context of human infections being treated with antibiotics, which, in my opinion, is inappropriate. This is because

(1) exposure to the host and antibiotics was sequential, not simultaneous, and thus does not reflect the treatment of infection, and

(2) because the site of infection is different in C. elegans and human hosts.

Nevertheless, the results are of interest; I just think the interpretation and framing should be adjusted.

Comments on revisions:

Following the revision, I now think the weakness I initially described has been addressed well by the authors.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

Summary:

Su et al. sought to understand how the opportunistic pathogen Staphylococcus aureus responds to multiple selection pressures during infection. Specifically, the authors were interested in how the host environment and antibiotic exposure impact the evolution of both virulence and antibiotic resistance in S. aureus. To accomplish this, the authors performed an evolution experiment where S. aureus were fed to Caenorhabditis elegans as a model system to study the host environment and then either subjected to the antibiotic oxacillin or not. Additionally, the authors investigated the difference in evolution between an antibiotic-resistant stain MRSA and an isogenic susceptible strain MSSA. They found that MRSA strains evolved in both antibiotic and host conditions became more virulent and that strains evolved outside these conditions lost virulence. Looking at the strains evolved in just antibiotic conditions, the authors found that S. aureus maintained its ability to lyse blood cells. Mutations in codY, gdpP and pbpA were found to be associated with increased virulence. Additionally, these mutations identified in these experiments were found in S. aureus strains isolated from human infections.

Strengths:

The data are well-presented, thorough, and are an important addition to the understanding of how certain pathogens might adapt to different selective pressures in complex environments.

Comments on revisions:

For the most part, my comments have been addressed. It seems that the authors have not addressed my comments about quantifying population sizes in order to understand mutation supply, particularly in light of which experimental phase exhibits the strongest selection and possible increases in mutation rates. While I think this information would be very useful if they had collected it during the experiment, I don't think it is important enough to require additional experiments. I am therefore satisfied with the current state of the manuscript.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

This paper examines whether action potentials (APs) reliably propagate to the distal axon in neocortical parvalbumin-expressing interneurons (PV-Ins) during prolonged high-frequency activity, as occurring during epileptiform activity. The authors use dual soma and axon-attached patch-clamp recordings from mouse and human PV-INs and show that axon AP amplitude declines when the firing frequency exceeds ~200 Hz and fails during seizure-like bursts. Finally, they show that elevation of external K+ to 10 mM also reduces AP amplitude. Taken together, these data strongly suggest that the reduction in transmitter release observed during intense PV-INs activity or during seizure-like events is mainly mediated by the reduction in the presynaptic AP amplitude in PV-INs.

Strengths:

This paper is very interesting, well-written and technically impressive. It provides new and important results. The paper will have a great impact in the field of both axon physiology and epilepsy.

Weaknesses:

I did not find any significant weakness in the methods, data analysis and results.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

The authors demonstrate a frequency-dependent progressive failure of action potential propagation through the axonal arbors in fast-spiking interneurons

Strengths:

The experimental protocols are technically challenging, but the data is of very high quality, and the presentation and writing are very clear.

I congratulate the authors on submitting a really excellent study demonstrating an activity-dependent alteration in the efficacy of axonal propagation of action potentials in fast-spiking interneurons. It is a well-designed project involving technically challenging experiments, and yet the data is of very high quality, the results are compelling, and the presentation is clear.

Weaknesses:

I have some minor suggestions and comments, including those below, but I hope and expect that these could be performed quickly and without difficulty.

Two of the most interesting figures were consigned to the supplementary information, and I would recommend that they are "upgraded" to be in the main document. The two figures are Figure 1 - Figure Supplement 2, showing the inverse correlation of the AP size with recording distance and branch; and Figure 6 - Figure Supplement 1, showing the postsynaptic effect. My rationale for saying this is that I feel that both add useful biological information to the narrative.

I was glad to see that "realistic" firing patterns were used, because I recall an old modelling paper from Mainen and Sejnowski (https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/7770778/) that is highly relevant to this paper and should be referenced. However, I would like to suggest one further bit of analysis of the data presented in Figure 4, because I think it will support the main story. In Figure 4, the ostensible conclusion is that there is relative preservation of spike amplitude for this natural firing pattern, but that is almost certainly because the average firing rate is substantially below the level where spike amplitude suppression was seen in Figures 2 & 3. Instead, I recommend analysing for each consecutive spike pair, the ratio of the heights of the two spikes with respect to the interspike interval. Viz<br /> t2 - t1 versus spike 2 amplitude / spike 1 amplitude

The data may be a little noisy, but given the very large number of spike pairs, I would expect to see the suppression effect to be fully evident, and that can feed directly into the model.<br /> I think the author's intuition that dissipation of ionic gradients is a key factor is correct, so I was pleased that Na+ was not ignored in the discussion (the results section only talked about K+).

Perhaps the fact that Na gradients may also be depleted could be mentioned in the results section, too. In the discussion, perhaps the authors could mention two other details: that this "fatigue" may reflect ATP depletion, and progressive failure of the Na-K-ATPase in the axons. That could be examined in a follow-up study (I certainly am not suggesting a raft of experiments for this study), but it could be mentioned in the discussion. And second, that the ionic depletion may be greater within the confines of the cell-attached pipette tip, which is why the branching pattern/distance data (F1FS2), the Ca imaging data and the post-synaptic effects (F6FS1) are such important additional supporting data, because together they indicate that the effect is along the whole axon.

Regarding the rise in [K+]o, it would be worth mentioning the fact that this will be greatly exacerbated by the postsynaptic effects of high-frequency PV activity, because the consequent Cl loading of the postsynaptic cell is subsequently cleared by coupling to K+ extrusion. A good reference for this is http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20211979; a recent review (https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/39637123/), which argues that this may even be the dominant source of raised [K+]o in the immediate preictal period, larger even than that exiting cells through the Hodgkin-Huxley mechanism.

The referencing needs some attention. In some instances, the citations either do not really illustrate preceding statements or are simply the wrong citation.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

Summary:

This is an interesting paper which asks a compelling and translationally relevant question: since the firing rate of GABAergic PV+ interneurons (which powerfully control pyramidal cell excitability) increases prior to and during seizures, why doesn't this increase in inhibition do more to prevent seizure propagation? The authors hypothesize that increased PV+ spiking might lead to spike propagation failures in the axon.

To test this hypothesis, the authors conduct paired electrophysiological recordings from PV+ neurons in acute barrel cortex slices of mice and from a handful of human neurosurgical samples. They use patch clamp recordings to measure the membrane potential of PV+ neurons at the soma, while simultaneously measuring spike propagation with a recording electrode in the axon of the same neuron.

After a variety of elegant experiments and modeling, the authors conclude that extracellular K+ accumulation around the axon during high-frequency firing might be causing propagation failures.

Strengths:

Overall, the paper is nicely written, the experiments are technically challenging, and the figures are, for the most par,t well laid out. The topic will be of broad interest for the neuroscience field, given the relevance of PV+ interneurons to cortical circuit function, plasticity across development, and disease.

Weaknesses:

In addition to the strengths here, I feel the need to highlight a few weaknesses which, if rectified, could improve the work.

(1) The key hypothesis in this paper is that extended periods of somatic spiking lead to progressive decreases in the axonal AP amplitude, which eventually lead to failures, potentially (but not necessarily) at branchpoints. Two comments here.

It would be helpful for the authors to show us examples of the axonal spike waveforms at a faster time base (along with the somatic recording) so that we can really understand what's happening to the spike in the axon.

Their data are also compatible with failures of spike initiation at the AIS. Could the authors show us the first derivative of somatic voltage for successes and failures, and maybe show us some phase plots of Vm vs dV/dt for the failures, successes, and attenuated spikes? Effectively, what I'm asking is whether the changes they see in the distal axon are downstream of the initiation zone. It's very possible that extended spiking is simply depolarizing the AIS and inactivating Na+ channels there. In which case, the authors should be able to pull this out in a phase plot.

(2) There's no baseline period for their calcium fluorescence signals, which is necessary to compare their "signal" magnitude to frame-by-frame variance of dG/R. Could the authors correct this issue in Figure 6B?

(3) Some of their stats are a bit unorthodox. Why are they doing two separate Wilcoxon tests in 6D and 6E? Why not throw all that into a one-way ANOVA model followed by appropriate post hoc tests?

(4) Why don't the authors observe washout of their effect after high K+ application? This concerns me that their high K+ application is having secondary and long-lasting effects on PV excitability, which mimic (but are not necessarily identical) to their hypothesized mechanism of axonal failures.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

This study investigates how astrocyte metabolic state influences astrocyte-synapse interactions and the organization of the dopaminergic circuit in the Drosophila CNS. Using a creative split-GFP-based contact reporter ("PEAPOD"), combined with genetic perturbations of glycolytic enzymes, synaptic labeling, EM, transsynaptic tracing, single-cell transcriptomics, and behavioral assays, the authors propose that disruption of astrocyte glycolysis enhances astrocyte-dopamine neuron contacts, promotes synaptogenesis, and biases dopaminergic-motor circuit connectivity through a mechanism involving altered Neuroligin 2 trafficking.

The work is conceptually ambitious and technically broad. The development and application of a contact reporter for astrocyte-neuronal interfaces is potentially valuable to the field, and the convergence of multiple glycolytic perturbations on similar phenotypes is a notable strength. However, several central conclusions currently extend beyond the direct evidence presented. Clarification and calibration of these claims would substantially strengthen the manuscript.

Major Points:

(1) Astrocyte glycolytic impairment is inferred rather than directly demonstrated

The central premise of the manuscript is that reduced astrocyte glycolysis drives the observed phenotypes. While multiple glycolytic enzymes (e.g., pfk, eno, pyk) are genetically perturbed and produce similar increases in PEAPOD signal, the manuscript does not directly demonstrate altered glycolytic flux or metabolic state in astrocytes under these conditions. Reduced enzyme levels or genetic mutation do not necessarily establish functional metabolic deficiency, particularly given potential compensatory mechanisms.

Because glycolytic impairment is foundational to the proposed mechanism, the conclusions should either be supported by direct metabolic readouts in astrocytes or framed more cautiously as perturbations of glycolytic enzymes rather than confirmed metabolic deficiency.

(2) Interpretation of the PEAPOD signal requires clearer calibration

The PEAPOD system is an innovative tool to detect membrane proximity between astrocytes and dopamine neurons. However, the manuscript frequently interprets increased PEAPOD intensity and volume as increased "ensheathment" or increased synaptic contact. A split-GFP-based reporter measures membrane apposition within a defined spatial range but does not directly quantify structural ensheathment, synapse number, or functional synaptic engagement.

Although the authors show an association of the PEAPOD signal with presynaptic markers in some regions, the distinction between increased membrane contact, altered membrane organization, and true changes in perisynaptic coverage should be more explicitly discussed. Several conclusions would benefit from clearer wording that distinguishes contact proximity from ultrastructural or functional synapse remodeling.

(3) Evidence for biased dopaminergic-motor circuit wiring is indirect

The manuscript proposes that disruption of astrocyte glycolysis biases dopaminergic-motor connectivity. This conclusion relies heavily on trans-Tango labeling intensity and downstream cell-type composition analysis via FACS and single-cell RNA sequencing.

Transsynaptic labeling approaches can be influenced by expression levels, reporter trafficking, labeling efficiency, and differential recovery during dissociation and FACS. Changes in labeled cell abundance or reporter intensity do not necessarily equate to altered synaptic wiring. Given that this conclusion represents a major conceptual advance of the study, the manuscript should either provide additional orthogonal support or temper the claim to reflect that altered labeling efficiency or synaptic engagement, rather than definitive rewiring, has been demonstrated.

(4) Mechanistic claims regarding Neuroligin 2 trafficking are suggestive but not definitive

The authors propose that astrocyte glycolytic disruption alters Neuroligin 2 (Nlg2) trafficking, leading to ER retention and downstream synaptogenic effects. The observation of Nlg2-positive intracellular bodies colocalizing with ER markers is intriguing. However, quantitative analysis, additional compartment markers, and/or biochemical support would be necessary to firmly establish altered ER exit or glycosylation status.

At present, the mechanistic model is plausible but should be presented more explicitly as a working model supported by suggestive evidence rather than a fully established trafficking defect.

(5) Behavioral phenotypes are not yet causally linked to dopaminergic circuit changes

The locomotor phenotypes observed upon astrocyte glycolytic perturbation are clear. However, the manuscript attributes these changes to altered dopaminergic-motor connectivity. A direct causal linkage between astrocyte metabolic state, dopaminergic circuit remodeling, and behavior is not conclusively demonstrated. The discussion should either clarify the inferential nature of this link or provide additional evidence supporting dopamine-specific dependence.

Minor Points:

(1) Statistical analyses across multi-group comparisons should be more clearly justified, particularly where multiple pairwise tests are performed. A clarification of the multiple-comparison correction and the exact comparison strategy would improve rigor.

(2) The temporal interpretation of activity-dependent remodeling experiments would benefit from a clearer explanation of what timescale is being tested.

(3) Developmental compensation versus the acute effects of glycolytic perturbation are not fully distinguished and should be discussed.

(4) The orthology and functional equivalence of Drosophila Nlg2 should be described with greater precision to avoid potential confusion.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

This manuscript presents a significant advance in our understanding of how metabolic states in astrocytes directly influence the structural assembly and functional output of neural circuits. By focusing on the Drosophila larval dopaminergic system, the authors uncover an interesting mechanism: astrocyte glycolysis acts as a negative regulator of PEAPODs, ultimately altering locomotor behavior. Metabolic fluctuations (e.g., due to diet, development, or disease) could fundamentally reshape neural connectivity, with broad implications for neurodevelopmental and metabolic disorders.

Strengths:

The manuscript offers a compelling narrative linking astrocyte metabolism to DA-MN circuit wiring and behavior. For the field, this study serves as an important prompt to investigate how metabolic states might dynamically tune neural connectivity during development and in disease.

Weaknesses:

The definitive acceptance of the proposed linear mechanism depends on future validation through genetic interaction tests and rescue experiments.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

Summary:

The authors are trying to demonstrate how astrocytes influence the connections within neural circuits that control behavior.

Strengths:

The data presented in the manuscript are thorough and well-executed, using advanced Drosophila approaches (Ca2+ imaging, GRASP, clonal analysis, trans-Tango) in new ways (PEAPODS) and with new tools (pyk mutants, anti-pyk Ab, LexAop2-pykRNAi). Use of two RNAi lines for each of three glycolytic enzymes is strong evidence that perturbation of glycolysis is responsible, though it does not rule out that inappropriate build-up of intermediates, or shunting to alternative pathways, may play a role here. Subsequent focus on Pyk alone is understandable.

Weaknesses:

As strong as the data is, it does not always support some of the stated claims, and this should be addressed in any revision. In addition, there seems to be an oversimplification of the possible effects of Pyk RNAi, and some missing pieces that could fill in gaps and align the proposed mechanism with observed phenotypes.

Where the data does not support stated claims:

(1) The authors claim larvae executed more reorientation actions during locomotion "as a result" of attenuated astrocyte-to-DAergic neuron signaling through neuroligin 2 (astrocyte) and neurexin 1 (DA Neuron). They correlated these, but did not make a direct connection.

(2) There is a claim that "at the circuit level, behavioral alterations were found to arise from increased DAergic neuronal synaptogenesis and DAergic-motor connection" (sic). However, the work does not build a causal relationship between behavior and synaptogenesis or connectivity. At present, the manuscript does not directly address whether increased DA-motor neuron synapses are sufficient to explain the increased orientation reactions observed.

(3) It is asserted that (line 182, and elsewhere) "astrocyte glycolysis deficiency increased PEAPODs and DAergic neuron synaptogenesis". While astrocyte Pyk KD increased PEAPODS (Figure 2), and it also increased endogenous Brp-GFP in DA neurons (via STaR, Figure 3F), the added Brp-GFP was not localized to synapses under these conditions (pyk KD), to unequivocally demonstrate that the increased PEAPODS are at the sites of DAergic synapses. Also seen in 6I-J.

(4) It may be premature to refer to this strictly as synaptogenesis, as alternative explanations (e.g., stabilization or impaired pruning) could also account for the observations.

(5) The use of trans-Tango is an elegant way to support the idea that extra DAergic synapses are formed onto motor neurons, with potential impact on motor circuits. But again, the claim (line 215, and elsewhere) that this "Biased DAergic-motor wiring" is what "alters motor output", would benefit from additional evidence.

(6) Oversimplification of the possible effects of Pyk RNAi: Because Pyk knockdown is likely to alter glycolytic flux rather than abolish glycolysis entirely, it may be clearer to describe the manipulation as 'Pyk loss' rather than 'glycolysis-deficient' in most contexts.

(7) Filling gaps to align the proposed mechanism with observed phenotypes:

a) Figure 6K-M - the ER retention of Nlg2 should also be tested using Pyk-RNAi, in addition to the pyk mutants shown. This would confirm the astrocyte-specific nature of this effect and close the loop to align the phenotypes.

b) From the mechanism proposed (ER retention of Nlg, presumably leading to loss of Nlg function in astrocytes), one might expect that the effects of loss of Nlg2 from astrocytes could phenocopy the behavioral deficits seen in pyk KD (from astrocytes). Ackerman et al (2021) knocked down Nlg2 from astrocytes and examined motor behavior with FIMTrack. They saw increased accumulated distance but did not see the effects seen upon pyk KD in this manuscript (increased pausing, sweeping). The authors could perform this experiment themselves or alternatively should address this inconsistency in the discussion.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

In this manuscript, Kong et al. conduct a systematic analysis of the multi-cancer risk locus at 2q33. The authors start with a careful analysis of co-localization between the melanoma risk SNPs and several other cancers and conclude that a subset of credible causal SNPs is shared among different cancers, including breast cancer. Next, they define a starting list of 27 SNPs as potential credible causal SNPs and analysis of TADs (topologically associating domains) to zoom in on CASP8 and FLA CC1 as potential target genes. They then systematically rule out coding and splicing variants in the set and focus on a smaller set of three SNPs constituting a melanocyte enhancer element. Using a combination of mass spectrometry, reporter assays, and electrophoretic mobility shift assays, the authors define a role for transcription factors IRF2 and E4F1 in the regulatory network driving risk at the locus.

This work represents a high-quality tour de force, using multiple tools, to zoom in on a gene expression regulatory network associated with risk for multiple cancers. It provides a detailed framework for analyses of other multi-cancer risk loci. Limitations of the work, which is rather a current limitation of the field, is the lack of a model to study how the identified network of regulatory elements, transcription factors, and target genes mechanistically drive risk at the organismal level. Advances such as those described in this manuscript contribute significantly to our knowledge of how common risk variants drive risk.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

Kong et al. investigate a well-validated risk locus at chromosome band 2q33.1 adjacent to CASP8, a ubiquitously expressed and central initiator caspase in the extrinsic apoptotic pathway. Importantly, this region is a multi-cancer risk locus harboring multiple highly correlated risk alleles that are confounded by linkage. In addition to protein coding and splicing variants, further evaluation of eQTL and TWAS results for the locus suggests a cis-regulatory effect is present for CASP8 and nearby FLACC1. The authors prioritize variants using orthogonal statistical fine-mapping approaches and triage top candidates for functional assays. Luciferase reporter assays demonstrated convincing allele-specific regulatory activity of rs3769823 variant as well as suggestive evidence for rs3769821 and rs59308963. These three variants lie in close proximity within a melanocyte regulatory element marked by overlapping promoter and enhancer chromatin state signals. The authors employ a haplotype reporter assay, which shows that the combination of risk alleles in the forward direction has additive effects compared to the protective haplotype. These effects are also cell type specific among melanocytes, melanoma, and breast cancer cell states. Utilizing electron mobility shift assays, the authors convincingly show augmented nuclear protein binding of the rs3769823-A risk allele, and mass spectrometry of allele-specific rs3769823 binding proteins revealed specific activity of E4F1 and IRF2, whose motif score is strengthened by the risk allele. Correlation of these transcription factors' expression with CASP8 expression suggested repressive effects of E4F1 and activating effects of IRF2, which were confirmed in siRNA assays across multiple cell types. These data provide important evidence towards the molecular mechanisms governing disease susceptibility at the 2q33.1 risk locus and nominate s3769823 as a causal variant through cis-regulatory activity by E4F1 and IRF2.

Strengths:

Major strengths of the work include the authors' employment of orthogonal fine-mapping approaches and functional assays in multiple cell types. These help to fortify a novel molecular mechanism of rs3769823 and also work together to propose a complicated multi-variant and cell-type-specific effect at this locus, which is worth future investigation.

Weaknesses:

The rs3769823 variant is a protein-coding variant for CASP8. While the authors conclude that this is likely neutral to CASP8 function, their evidence is suggestive at best and does not close the door on a protein-coding function for this variant.

Similarly, another variant, rs10804111, is associated with alternative splicing of CASP8. The authors do well to include the potent rs10804111 sQTL effect on CASP8 and further confirm it by a minigene assay. However, its exclusion from the fine-mapping results may be due to a potent bias towards active chromatin marks. Therefore, rs10804111 still requires further investigation.<br /> Some attention is given to FLACC1, whose promoter may be in contact with multiple variants. However, little is known about FLACC1 function, and the authors don't provide meaningful supporting data to illustrate whether FLACC1 is relevant in the context of melanocyte, melanoma, or other cancer types that share this risk locus (breast, prostate). Showing the absolute expression levels in the eQTL analysis would be helpful towards this.

Phenotypic assays interrogating the rs3769823-E4F1-IRF2 relevance to melanocyte biology and melanoma pathogenesis are not included.

Finally, the segmented figure organization negatively impacts the readability of the paper.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

[Editors' note: this version has been assessed by the Reviewing Editor without further input from the original reviewers. The authors have addressed the major comments raised in the previous round of review. Public Reviews below refer to the version submitted to Review Commons.]

Summary:

Gosselin et al., develop a method to target protein activity using synthetic single-domain nanobodies (sybodies). They screen a library of sybodies using ribosome/ phage display generated against bacillus Smc-ScpAB complex. Specifically, they use an ATP hydrolysis deficient mutant of SMC so as to identify sybodies that will potentially disrupt Smc-ScpAB activity. They next screen their library in vivo, using growth defects in rich media as a read-out for Smc activity perturbation. They identify 14 sybodies that mirror smc deletion phenotype including defective growth in fast-growth conditions, as well as chromosome segregation defects. The authors use a clever approach by making chimeras between bacillus and S. pnuemoniae Smc to narrow-down to specific regions within the bacillus Smc coiled-coil that are likely targets of the sybodies. Using ATPase assays, they find that the sybodies either impede DNA-stimulated ATP hydrolysis or hyperactivate ATP hydrolysis (even in the absence of DNA). The authors propose that the sybodies may likely be locking Smc-ScpAB in the "closed" or "open" state via interaction with the specific coiled-coil region on Smc. I have a few comments that the authors should consider:

Major comments:

(1) Lack of direct in vitro binding measurements:

The authors do not provide measurements of sybody affinities, binding/ unbinding kinetics, stoichiometries with respect to Smc-ScpAB. Additionally, do the sybodies preferentially interact with Smc in ATP/ DNA-bound state? And do the sybodies affect the interaction of ScpAB with SMC?

It is understandable that such measurements for 14 sybodies is challenging, and not essential for this study. Nonetheless, it is informative to have biochemical characterization of sybody interaction with the Smc-ScpAB complex for at least 1-2 candidate sybodies described here.

(2) Many modes of sybody binding to Smc are plausible

The authors provide an elaborate discussion of sybodies locking the Smc-ScpAB complex in open/ closed states. However, in the absence of structural support, the mechanistic inferences may need to be tempered. For example, is it also not possible for the sybodies to bind the inner interface of the coiled-coil, resulting in steric hinderance to coiled-coil interactions. It is also possible that sybody interaction disrupts ScpAB interaction (as data ruling this possibility out has not been provided). Thus, other potential mechanisms would be worth considering/ discussing. In this direction, did AlphaFold reveal any potential insights into putative binding locations?

(3) Sybody expression in vivo

Have the authors estimated sybody expression in vivo? Are they all expressed to similar levels?

(4) Sybodies should phenocopy ATP hydrolysis mutant of Smc

The sybodies were screened against an ATP hydrolysis deficient mutant of Smc, with the rationale that these sybodies would interfere this step of the Smc duty cycle. Does the expression of the sybodies in vivo phenocopy the ATP hydrolysis deficient mutant of Smc? Could the authors consider any phenotypic read-outs that can indicate whether the sybody action results in an smc-null effect or specifically an ATP hydrolysis deficient effect?

Significance:

Overall, this is an impressive study that uses an elegant strategy to find inhibitors of protein activity in vivo. The manuscript is clearly written and the experiments are logical and well-designed. The findings from the study will be significant to the broad field of genome biology, synthetic biology and also SMC biology. Specifically, the coiled coil domain of SMC proteins has been proposed to be of high functional value. The authors have elegantly identified key coiled-coil regions that may be important for function, and parallelly exhibited potential of the use of synthetic sybody/designed binders for inhibition of protein activity.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

Structural Maintenance of Chromosome proteins (SMCs), a family of proteins found in almost all organisms, are organizers of DNA. They accomplish this by a process known as loop extrusion, wherein double-stranded DNA is actively reeled in and extruded into loops. Although SMCs are known to have several DNA binding regions, the exact mechanism by which they facilitate loop extrusion is not understood but is believed to entail large conformational changes. There are currently several models for loop extrusion, including one wherein the coiled coil (CC) arms open, but there is a lack of insightful experimentation and analysis to confirm any of these models. The work presented aims to provide much-needed new tools to investigate these questions: conformation-selective sybodies (synthetic nanobodies) that are likely to alter the CC opening and closing reactions.

The authors produced, isolated, and expressed sybodies that specifically bound to Bacillus subtilis Smc-ScpAB. Using chimeric Smc constructs, where the coiled coils were partly replaced with the corresponding sequences from Streptococcus pneumoniae, the authors revealed that the isolated sybodies all targeted the same 4N CC element of the Smc arms. This region is likely disrupted by the sybodies either by stopping the arms from opening (correctly) or forcing them to stay open (enough). Disrupting these functional elements is suggested to cause the Smc-dependent chromosome organization lethal phenotype, implying that arm opening and closing is a key regulatory feature of bacterial Smc-ScpAB.

Significance:

The authors present a new method for trapping bacterial Smc's in certain conformations using synthetic antibodies. Using these antibodies, they have pinpointed the (previously suggested) 4N region of the coiled coils as an essential site for the opening and closing of the Smc coiled coil arms and that hindering these reactions blocks Smc-driven chromosomal organization. The work has important implications for how we might elucidate the mechanism of DNA loop extrusion by SMC complexes.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

Summary:

Gosselin et al. use the sybody technology to study effects of in vivo inhibition of the Bacillus subtilis SMC complex. Smc proteins are central DNA binding elements of several complexes that are vital for chromosome dynamics in almost all organisms. Sybodies are selected from three different libraries of the single domain antibodies, using the "transition state" mutant Smc. They identify 14 such mutant sybodies that are lethal when expressed in vivo, because they prevent proper function of Smc. The authors present evidence suggesting that all obtained sybodies bind to a coiled-coil region close to the Smc "neck", and thereby interfere with the Smc activity cycle, as evidenced by defective ATPase activity when Smc is bound to DNA.

The study is well done and presented and shows that the strategy is very potent in finding a means to quickly turn off a protein's function in vivo, much quicker than depleting the protein.

The authors also draw conclusions on the molecular mode of action of the SMC complex. The provide a number of suggestive experiments, but in my view mostly indirect evidence for such mechanism.

My main criticism is that the authors have used a single - and catalytically trapped form of SMC. They speculate why they only obtain sybodies from one library, and then only identify sybodies that bind to a rather small part of the large Smc protein. While the approach is definitely valuable, it is biassed towards sybodies that bind to Smc in a quite special way, it seems. Using wild type Smc would be interesting, to make more robust statements about the action of sybodies potentially binding to different parts of Smc.

Line 105: Alternatively, the other libraries did not produce good binders or these sybodies were 106 not stably expressed in B. subtilis. This could be tested using Western blotting - I am assuming sybody antibodies are commercially available. However, this test is not important for the overall study, it would just clarify a minor point.

Fig. 2B: is odd to count Spo0J foci per cells, as it is clear from the images that several origins must be present within the fluorescent foci. I am fine with the "counting" method, as the images show there is a clear segregation defect when sybodies are expressed, I believe the authors should state, though, that this is not a replication block, but failure to segregate origins.

Testing binding sites of sybodies to the SMC complex is done in an indirect manner, by using chimeric Smc constructs. I am surprised why the authors have not used in vitro crosslinking: the authors can purify Smc, and mass spectrometry analyses would identify sites where sybodies are crosslinked to Smc. Again, I am fine with the indirect method, but the authors make quite concrete statements on binding based on non-inhibition of chimeric Smc; I can see alternative explanations why a chimera may not be targeted.

Smc-disrupting sybodies affect the ATPase activity in one of two ways. Again, rather indirect experiments. This leads to the point Revealing Smc arm dynamics through synthetic binders in the discussion. The authors are quite careful in stating that their experiments are suggestive for a certain mode of action of Smc, which is warranted.

In line 245, they state More broadly, the study demonstrates how synthetic binders can trap, stabilize, or block transient conformations of active chromatin-associated machines, providing a powerful means to probe their mechanisms in living cells. This is off course a possible scenario for the use of sybodies, but the study does not really trap Smc in a transient conformation, at least this is not clearly shown.

Overall, it is an interesting study, with a well-presented novel technology, and a limited gain of knowledge on SMC proteins.

Significance:

The work describes the gaining and use of single-binder antibodies (sybodies) to interfere with the function of proteins in bacteria. Using this technology for the SMC complex, the authors demonstrate that they can obtain a significant of binders that target a defined region is SMC and thereby interfere with the ATPase cycle.

The study does not present a strong gain of knowledge of the mode of action of the SMC complex.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

[Editors' note: this version has been assessed by the Reviewing Editor without further input from the original reviewers. The authors have addressed the comments raised in the previous round of review.]

Original review:

Summary:

Lumen formation is a fundamental morphogenetic event essential for the function of all tubular organs, notably the vertebrate vascular network, where continuous and patent conduits ensure blood flow and tissue perfusion. The mechanisms by which endothelial cells organize to create and maintain luminal space have historically been categorized into two broad strategies: cell shape changes, which involve alterations in apical-basal polarity and cytoskeletal architecture, and cell rearrangements, wherein intercellular junctions and positional relationships are remodeled to form uninterrupted conduits. The study presented here focuses on the latter process, highlighting a unique morphogenetic module, junction-based lamellipodia (JBL), as the driver for endothelial rearrangements.

Strengths:

The key mechanistic insight from this work is the requirement of the Arp2/3 complex, the classical nucleator of branched actin filament networks, for JBL protrusion. This implicates Arp2/3-mediated actin polymerization in pushing force generation, enabling plasma membrane advancement at junctional sites. The dependence on Arp2/3 positions JBL within the family of lamellipodia-like structures, but the junctional origin and function distinguish them from canonical, leading-edge lamellipodia seen in cell migration.

Weaknesses:

The study primarily presents descriptive observations and includes limited quantitative analyses or genetic modifications. Molecular mechanisms are typically interrogated through the use of pharmacological inhibitors rather than genetic approaches. Furthermore, the precise semantic distinction between JAIL and JBL requires additional clarification, as current evidence suggests their biological relevance may substantially overlap.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Original review:

Summary:

In Maggi et al., the authors investigated the mechanisms that regulate the dynamics of a specialized junctional structure called junction-based lamellipodia (JBL), which they have previously identified during multicellular vascular tube formation in the zebrafish. They identified the Arp2/3 complex to dynamically localize at expanding JBLs and showed that the chemical inhibition of Arp2/3 activity slowed junctional elongation. The authors therefore concluded that actin polymerization at JBLs pushes the distal junction forward to expand the JBL. They further revealed the accumulation of Myl9a/Myl9b (marker for MLC) at the junctional pole, at interjunctional regions, suggesting that contractile activity drives the merging of proximal and distal junctions. Indeed, chemical inhibition of ROCK activity decreased junctional mergence. With these new findings, the authors added new molecular and cellular details into the previously proposed clutch mechanism by proposing that Arp2/3-dependent actin polymerization provides pushing forces while actomyosin contractility drives the merging of proximal and distal junctions, explaining the oscillatory protrusive nature of JBLs.

Strengths:

The authors provide detailed analyses of endothelial cell-cell dynamics through time-lapse imaging of junctional and cytoskeletal components at subcellular resolution. The use of zebrafish as an animal model system is invaluable in identifying novel mechanisms that explain the organizing principles of how blood vessels are formed. The data is well presented, and the manuscript is easy to read.

Weaknesses:

While the data generally support the conclusions reached, some aspects can be strengthened. For the untrained eye, it is unclear where the proximal and distal junctions are in some images, and so it is difficult to follow their dynamics (especially in experiments where Cdh5 is used as the junctional marker). Images would benefit from clear annotation of the two junctions. All perturbation experiments were done using chemical inhibitors; this can be further supported by genetic perturbations.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

Original review:

The paper by Maggi et al. builds on earlier work by the team (Paatero et al., 2018) on oriented junction-based lamellipodia (JBL). They validate the role of JBLs in guiding endothelial cell rearrangements and utilise high-resolution time-lapse imaging of novel transgenic strains to visualise the formation of distal junctions and their subsequent fusion with proximal junctions. Through functional analyses of Arp2/3 and actomyosin contractility, the study identifies JBLs as localized mechanical hubs, where protrusive forces drive distal junction formation, and actomyosin contractility brings together the distal and proximal junctions. This forward movement provides a unique directionality which would contribute to proper lumen formation, EC orientation, and vessel stability during these early stages of vessel development.

Time-lapse live imaging of VEC, ZO-1, and actin reveals that VEC and ZO-1 are initially deposited at the distal junction, while actin primarily localizes to the region between the proximal and distal sites. Using a photoconvertible Cdh5-mClav2 transgenic line, the origin of the VEC aggregates was examined. This convincingly shows that VE-cadherin was derived from pools outside the proximal junctions. However, in addition to de novo VEC derived from within the photoconverted cell, could some VEC also be contributed by the neighbouring endothelial cell to which the JBL is connected?

As seen for JAILs in cultured ECs, the study reveals that Arp2/3 is enhanced when JBLs form by live imaging of Arpc1b-Venus in conjunction with ZO-1 and actin. Therefore Arp2/3 likely contributes to the initial formation of the distal junction in the lamellopodium.

Inhibiting Arp2/3 with CK666 prevents JBL formation, and filopodia form instead of lamellopodia. This loss of JBLs leads to impaired EC rearrangements.

Is the effect of CK666 treatment reversible? Since only a short (30 min) treatment is used, the overall effect on the embryo would be minimal, and thus washing out CK666 might lead to JBL formation and normalized rearrangements, which would further support the role of Arp2/3.

From the images in Figure 4d it appears that ZO-1 levels are increased in the ring after CK666 treatment. Has this been investigated, and could this overall stabilization of adhesion proteins further prevent elongation of the ring?

To explore how the distal and proximal junctions merge, imaging of spatiotemporal imaging of Myl9 and VEC is conducted. It indicates that Myl9 is localized at the interjunctional fusion site prior to fusion. This suggests pulling forces are at play to merge the junctions, and indeed Y 27632 treatment reduces or blocks the merging of these junctions.

For this experiment, a truncated version of VEC was use,d which lacks the cytoplasmic domain. Why have the authors chosen to image this line, since lacking the cytoplasmic domain could also impair the efficiency of tension on VEC at both junction sites? This is as described in the discussion (lines 328-332).

Since the time-lapse movies involve high-speed imaging of rather small structures, it is understandable that these are difficult to interpret. Adding labels to indicate certain structures or proteins at essential timepoints in the movies would help the readers understand these.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

In their paper, Shimizu and Baron describe the signaling potential of cancer gain-of-function Notch alleles using the Drosophila Notch transfected in S2 cells. These cells do not express Notch or the ligand Dl or Dx, which are all transfected. With this simple cellular system, the authors have previously shown that it is possible to measure Notch signaling levels by using a reporter for the 3 main types of signaling outputs, basal signaling, ligand-induced signaling and ligand-independent signaling regulated by deltex. The authors proceed to test 22 cancer mutations for the above-mentioned 3 outputs. The mutation is considered a cluster in the negative regulatory region (NRR) that is composed of 3 LNR repeats wrapping around the HD domain. This arrangement shields the S2 cleavage site that starts the activation reaction.

The main findings are:

(1) Figure 1: the cell system can recapture ectopic activation of 3 existing Drosophila alleles validated in vivo.

(2) Figure 2: Some of the HD mutants do show ectopic activation that is not induced by Dl or Dx, arguing that these mutations fully expose the S2 site. Some of the HD mutants do not show ectopic activation in this system, a fact that is suggested to be related to retention in the secretory pathway.

(3) Figure 3: Some of the LNR mutants do show ectopic activation that is induced by Dl or Dx, arguing that these might partially expose the S2 site.

(4) Figure 4-6: 3 sites of the LNR3 on the surface that are involved in receptor heterodimerization, if mutated to A, are found to cause ectopic activation that is induced by Dl or Dx. This is not due to changes in their dimerization ability, and these mutants are found to be expressed at a higher level than WT, possibly due to decreased levels of protein degradation.

Strengths and Weaknesses:

The paper is very clearly written, and the experiments are robust, complete, and controlled. It is somewhat limited in scope, considering that Figure 1 and 5 could be supplementary data (setup of the system and negative data). However, the comparative approach and the controlled and well-known system allow the extraction of meaningful information in a field that has struggled to find specific anticancer approaches. In this sense, the authors contribute limited but highly valuable information.

Comments on revised version:

I reviewed the changes and response to criticism, and it seems to me that all has been reasonably addressed.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

Summary:

This manuscript by Shimizu et al., systematically analyzes cancer-associated mutations in the Negative Regulatory Region (NRR) of Drosophila Notch to reveal diverse regulatory mechanisms with implications for cancer modelling and therapy development. The study introduces cancer-associated mutations equivalent to human NOTCH1 mutations, covering a broad spectrum across the LNR and HD domains. By linking mutant-specific mechanistic diversity to differential signaling properties, the work directly informs targeted approaches for modulating Notch activity in cancer cells. These are an exciting set of observations from S2 cells, which should be taken up further for further assessment in any physiological implications.

Strengths:

This manuscript by Shimizu et al., systematically analyzes cancer-associated mutations in the Negative Regulatory Region (NRR) of Drosophila Notch to reveal diverse regulatory mechanisms with implications for cancer modelling and therapy development. The study introduces cancer-associated mutations equivalent to human NOTCH1 mutations, covering a broad spectrum across the LNR and HD domains. The authors use rigorous phenotypic assays to classify their functional outcomes. By leveraging the S2 cell-based assay platform, the work identifies mechanistic differences between mutations that disrupt the LNR-HD interface, core HD, and LNR surface domains, enhancing understanding of Notch regulation. The discovery that certain HD and LNR-HD interface mutations (e.g., R1626Q and E1705P) in Drosophila mirror the constitutive activation and synergy with PEST deletion seen in mammalian T-ALL is nice and provides a platform for future cancer modelling. Surface-exposed LNR-C mutations were shown to increase Notch protein stability and decrease turnover, suggesting a previously unappreciated regulatory layer distinct from canonical cleavage-exposure mechanisms. By linking mutant-specific mechanistic diversity to differential signaling properties, the work directly informs targeted approaches for modulating Notch activity in cancer cells.

Weaknesses:

This is an exciting set of observations, however the work is entirely cell line based, and is the primary weakness. I list my main specific concerns herewith:

(1) The analysis is confined to Drosophila S2 cells, which may not fully recapitulate tissue or organism-level regulatory complexity observed in vivo.

(2) And perhaps for this reason too, some Drosophila HD domain mutants accumulate in the secretory pathway and do not phenocopy human T-ALL mutations. Possibly due to limitations on physiological inputs that S2 cells cannot account for or species-specific differences such as the absence of S1 cleavage. Thus, the findings may not translate directly to understanding Notch 1 function in mammalian cancer models.

(3) Also, while the manuscript highlights mechanistic variety, the functional significance of these mutations for hematopoietic malignancies or developmental contexts in live animals remains untested. Thus even though the changes are evident in Notch signaling, any impact on blood cells or hematopoiesis leading to aberrant malignancies remains to be seen.

(4) Which hematopoietic cell type, progenitor or differentiating cells, would be most sensitive to this kind of altered Notch signaling also remains unclear.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

The authors have studied how a virus (EMCV) uses its RNA (Type 2 IRES) to hijack the host's protein-making machinery. They use cryo-EM to extract structural information about the recruitment of viral Type 2 IRES to ribosomal pre-IC. The authors propose a novel interaction mechanism in which the EMCV Type 2 IRES mimics 28S rRNA and interacts with ribosomal proteins and initiator tRNA (tRNAi).

Strengths:

(1) Getting structural insights about the Type 2 IRES-based initiation is novel.

(2) The study allows a good comparison of other IRES-based initiation systems.

(3) The manuscript is well-written and clearly explains the background, methods, and results.

Comments on revised version:

I have gone through the revised manuscript by Das and Hussain along with the rebuttal comments. While the poor resolution of the ribosomal complex limits detailed analysis of the molecular interactions, addition of the luciferase reporter assay in the supplementary has enriched the paper.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

The field of protein translation has long sought the structure of a Type 2 Internal Ribosome Entry Site (IRES). In this work, Das and Hussain pair cryo-EM with algorithmic RNA structure prediction to present a structure of the Type 2 IRES found in Encephalomyocarditis virus (EMCV). Using medium to low resolution cryo-EM maps, they resolve the overall shape of a critical domain of this Type 2 IRES. They use algorithmic RNA prediction to model this domain onto their maps and attempt to explain previous results using this model.

Strengths:

(1) This study reveals a previously unknown/unseen binding modality used by IRESes: a direct interaction of the IRES with the initiator tRNA.

(2) Use of an IRES-associated factor to assemble and pull down an IRES bound to the small subunit of the ribosome from cellular extracts is innovative.

(3) Algorithmic modeling of RNA structure to complement medium to low resolution cryo-EM maps, as employed here, can be implemented for other RNA structures.

Comments on revised version:

Thanks to the authors for providing thorough responses to the reviewer questions and comments. I appreciate their attempts of improving overall resolution of the complex via various processing strategies that the reviewers suggested.

The authors interpretations of their cryo-EM data match those reported by Bhattacharjee et al. 2025 (EMCV-IRES 48S) and can be contextualized in the light of Velazquez et al. 2025 (poliovirus IRES-48S).

The authors' contextualization of their results with previously published studies (Discussion section lines 355-402) is satisfactory to me but can be improved.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

Summary:

Type II IRES, such as those from encephalomyocarditis virus (EMCV) and foot-and-mouth disease virus (FMDV), mediate cap-independent translation initiation by using the full complement of eukaryotic initiation factors (eIFs), except the cap-binding protein eIF4E. The molecular details of how IRES type II interacts with the ribosome and initiation factors to promote recruitment have remained unclear. Das and Hussain used cryo-electron microscopy to determine the structure of a translation initiation complex assembled on the EMCV IRES. The structure reveals a direct interaction between the IRES and the 40S ribosomal subunit, offering mechanistic insight into how type II IRES elements recruit the ribosome.

Strengths:

The structure reveals a direct interaction between the IRES and the 40S ribosomal subunit, offering mechanistic insight into how type II IRES elements recruit the ribosome.

Comments on revised version:

The revised manuscript does not improve the resolution; however, the authors provide a detailed and well-reasoned rationale that directly addresses the concerns I raised about their structural interpretation. In addition, two independent preprints have been released since the initial submission. In one case, the authors report a higher-resolution, and importantly, all three studies present consistent assignments and interpretations. Together, these observations strengthen confidence in the authors' conclusions. I therefore do not have major concerns regarding the publication of this revised manuscript.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

The authors dissected the ears with some surrounding tissue from 600 embryos at 4 developmental time points of wild-type larvae, as well as from an lmx1bb mutant, performed scRNA-seq analyses, and subclustered the ear/neuromast clusters. They identified cluster markers and performed PAGA pseudotime analyses to build developmental timelines of lineages. They validated some of the cluster markers with HCRs. Many of the clusters are not annotated in detail, but the data sets are still valuable for the community.

Strengths:

Using scRNA-Seq, the authors identified cluster markers for tissues of the developing zebrafish ear and validated some of them with HCRs. The data they compiled and submitted to public databases is a valuable resource for the community.

Weaknesses:

Many of the clusters have not been annotated or rely on published data. For the ones for which no HCRs or UMAPs are shown, it is therefore difficult to estimate which of the markers are indeed the most cell type/state-specific ones.

Major comments:

(1) It would be very useful if the cluster numbers in the Excel files also had the associated cell type annotations as a second column (at least for the ones that are known). E.g., in Supplemental Table 2, the text states which clusters represent which neuromast and ear cell type, but these are not mentioned in the Excel table.

(2) Many of the clusters have not been annotated or rely on published data. For the ones for which no HCRs or UMAPs are shown, it is therefore difficult to estimate which of the markers are indeed the most cell-type/state-specific ones.

(3) Uploading the data to gEAR (https://umgear.org/dataset_explorer.html), a web-based, publicly available ear database, would further increase the usefulness of this study to the broader community.

Method:

The authors should provide the details about how many cells were sequenced for each ear developmental stage, how many cells were present per cluster (page 8), and how many cells were present in each subcluster of ear and lateral line clusters (page 10).

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

Munjal and colleagues present a single-cell RNAseq atlas of otic tissue at 4 developmental stages, generate coarse-grained PAGA graphs to describe the development of various otic cell types, rigorously validate their scRNAseq annotations using fluorescent in situ hybridization, and identify changes in epcam expression in lmx1bb mutants that potentially cause the dramatic defects in otic vesicle formation in these mutants.

Strengths:

The data set is very nice, and the annotations are extremely rigorous and more in-depth than other datasets that include these tissues, since these investigators have enriched significantly for this tissue of interest. Their use of PAGA to identify potential developmental relationships within the data is rigorous. I also would like to specifically point out how incredibly gorgeous the microscopy of the lmx1bb phenotype is in Figure 7. Wow.

Weaknesses:

A missed opportunity is that the authors describe creating an additional scRNAseq dataset from lmx1bb mutants, but do not show any comparative scRNAseq analyses that would identify broader sets of differentially expressed genes. It seems almost as if a key element of the study was removed at the last minute, and as a result, the discussion of changes in epcam expression in lmx1bb mutants in Figure 7 seems somewhat tacked onto the end of the study and not motivated by the analyses presented in the manuscript.

Overall, I do not think this study requires any major revisions to be appropriate and useful to the community. This study would be potentially stronger with a more formal analysis of what gene expression changes occurred in otic tissue in lmx1bb mutants, but it is also useful without this. I did have a couple of minor suggestions for the presentation of some aspects that would have made it easier for me as a reader.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

Summary:

The authors use single-cell transcriptomic analysis to identify distinct cell types in the zebrafish inner ear. They identify markers of hair cells and supporting cells associated with sensory patches, cells that generate the semicircular canals, endolymphatic duct and sac, and periotic mesenchymal cells.

Strengths:

The computational analysis is thorough, and the findings are clearly described. In situ hybridization provides corroboration of cell identities in many cases. This resource atlas will be of particular interest for studies of inner ear morphogenesis. Indeed, the identification of a smooth muscle marker in the endolymphatic sac suggests future analysis of the degree to which this structure undergoes contraction. Identification of cell signaling components in BMP, Wnt, FGF, and other signaling pathways will also provide a resource for understanding signals coordinating ear development.

Weaknesses:

The manuscript is incomplete. Important details that would allow replicable analysis are not provided, with notebooks not available on the referenced GitHub site, and additional files are missing.

The authors make a detailed description of hair cells and supporting cells that are consistent with previous findings (Figures 2 and 3). By contrast, the analysis of distinct cell types that have not been previously well characterized in zebrafish is somewhat incomplete. Markers are described for cells forming the semicircular canals, including ccn1l1 (Figure 4). The authors report an intriguing pattern of its expression before overt bud formation; however, they provide no detailed expression analysis to support this assertion.

The authors also identify new markers for subsets of periotic mesenchyme (Figure 6). These include epyc and otos, which mark distinct populations within the mammalian inner ear - cochlea supporting cells, spiral limbus, and ligament, respectively. Identification of the equivalent of the spiral ligament would be of particular interest. However, the expression analysis is not of sufficient resolution to identify which cell types these represent in the zebrafish inner ear.

Differences in gene expression are reported for lmx1bb mutants. However, none of the single-cell data for mutants is provided, and the table (S8) of differential gene expression is missing. Significantly more detail would be needed to interpret these findings.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

In this work, the authors revisit a well-defined experimental system for studying temporal gene expression mechanisms in TNF-alpha-stimulated macrophages, bringing new tools to the process. Using a hybrid-capture approach, they are able to obtain deeper RNA sequencing of target genes, which allows them to identify potential differences in splicing kinetics of individual introns. Further implementing transcriptional blocks to measure intron half-lives, and predictive machine learning models to identify potential contributing cis-acting RNA elements, they define a group of 'bottleneck' introns whose delayed splicing is a rate-limiting step in mRNA maturation.

Strengths:

(1) The hybrid-capture approach enables deeper RNA sequencing of target transcripts.

(2) The neural network application to identify motifs outside of splice sites could be related to intron removal kinetics.

(3) The paper uses splicing reporters with modulation of 5' splice sites to test the effect on reporter gene expression in the context of 'bottleneck' introns.

Weaknesses:

(1) While evidence is provided that these introns are distinct from previously published splicing kinetics studies, 'bottleneck' introns are not adequately placed in context for assessment of how they are similar or different.

(2) Splicing reporters are a good approach, but the complexities of post-transcriptional gene expression regulation are not adequately addressed

(3) Deep learning models are a potentially powerful tool for identifying novel regulatory sequences; however, their use here is underdeveloped.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

The authors analyzed the temporal dynamics of gene expression patterns within the inflammatory response transcriptome following TNF stimulation, and proposed that the splicing rate of certain introns is a key mechanism of regulating mature mRNA expression rate.

Strengths:

The measurement strategy is generally well-designed to understand the core question of splicing rate and gene expression. The following computation analysis, as well as the mutation or repair studies, further supported the claims. The writing and presentation of the results are also generally clear and easy to follow. I think this manuscript will be of interest to a wide audience.

Weaknesses: 

I do have some questions regarding some of the results and conclusions, and I think either more analysis or more explanation and discussion can make the claims more solid. Please see below for details:<br /> <br /> (1) On the hybrid capture method and the RNA coverage results: The strategy of enriching for the last exon before sequencing does have significance in linking pre-mRNA and mature mRNA. If I understand correctly, this enriches for pre-mRNA molecules that are about to finish the full-length elongation of RNA polymerase. However, is this strategy biased towards measuring the splicing rate variation on introns closer to the 3-prime end? For example, if a gene takes 5 minutes for the RNA polymerase to elongate through the full length of the gene, for intron #1 that's very close to the 5' end, you can't tell if it takes 20s to be spliced out or 4 minutes, as both will show as fully spliced out in the sequencing library. In other words, for introns near the 5' end, a consistent "CoSI=1" pattern in the data doesn't necessarily suggest a true consistent fast splicing of that intron. Do you observe any general pattern of the measured "slowliness" in relation to the 5'-3' location of the introns? If so, should the 5' introns be specially considered or even excluded from certain analyses that use all introns?<br /> <br /> (2) Following on my last point, it may benefit the readers if the author can provide a more detailed comparison of possible sequencing library construction choices. For example, is it feasible to also enrich for other exons for the sequencing library, etc?<br /> <br /> (3) Figure 1C: Are there biological replicates, and should there be error bars and statistics on the plot? Similarly, in places like Figure 2, Supplemental Figure 4C, Supplemental Figure 6, etc., is there any statistical analysis that can be done to show if the claimed differences are statistically significant?<br /> <br /> (4) The logic behind measuring the half-lives of introns seems a little unclear to me.  From the time-dependent RNA coverage plots in Figure 2, it seems that, if we assume a constant transcription elongation rate, then the splicing rate of a specific intron can vary across time after TNF stimulation, as represented by the temporal change of CoSI values, or the heights of the coverage plot relative to neighboring exons. This means the splicing rate or half-life of an intron is not necessarily constant but may be time-dependent, at least in the case of TNF stimulation. Shouldn't the half-life measurements be designed in a way to measure the half-life at multiple time points after TNF stimulation? And maybe the measured half-lives of some introns will show as time-dependent?<br /> <br /> (5) In Supplemental Figure 6, the interpretation is a little confusing to me: If delayed splicing is causing delayed expression of the corresponding gene, shouldn't the non-immediate gene groups (early/intermediate/Late) have low CoSI beginning from the early time points (e.g. 4 minutes)? Why does the slowdown of splicing seem to peak at a later time point? Does it mean immediately after TNF stimulation, there's a different mechanism in delaying the expression of the non-immediate gene groups? Maybe it's better to have more explanation or use a different visualization to show what non-immediate gene groups are experiencing at very early time points.<br /> <br /> (6) On the fine-tuning of the deep sequence model: it's a little unclear whether the input and output are time-dependent. It's stated that expression at multiple time points is used for training, but it's unclear whether the model outputs time-dependent expression patterns and whether the time information is used as input.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

Summary:

The manuscript by Dearborn et al investigates the kinetics of intron splicing in inflammation-associated transcripts after TNF-stimulation of macrophages, using targeted sequencing of chromatin-associated RNA to obtain high coverage across a focused set of induced genes. The authors' main conclusion is that splicing kinetics are heterogeneous across these transcripts, and that delayed introns (which they term "bottleneck introns") are associated with weak donor sequences. Using a deep learning approach, they have also identified additional sequence features that might contribute to intron splicing kinetics.

Overall, I think the findings in the manuscript are very intriguing and will be of interest to readers working on RNA biology. The changes the authors have made to the manuscript in response to some very valid comments from reviewers have strengthened the manuscript. While the existing data might not be sufficient to directly address some of the broader mechanistic claims made by the authors, I think the findings are nonetheless very interesting and should contribute towards a better understanding of the post-transcriptional regulation of gene expression.

Strengths:

A strength of the manuscript is the experimental design. The targeted capture approach is innovative and well-suited to the goal of measuring intron-specific splicing behaviour across time. The inclusion of experimental validation in minigene assays of some of the computational predictions also strengthens the claims made by the authors.

The authors have made a constructive effort to address some of the concerns raised in a previous round of review. The revised manuscript reads as a balanced text.

Weaknesses:

The study still does not fully resolve the downstream consequences of delayed splicing. In particular, it remains unclear whether the bottleneck introns lead primarily to delayed production of mature transcripts, reduced productive transcript output, or some combination of the two.

On a related point, the minigene reporter assays measure a steady-state level of the transcript and don't provide insights into the kinetics directly.

Lastly, given that the detailed analyses were performed on a selected subset of (inflammation-induced) transcripts, a broader evolutionary interpretation needs to be restrained given the current data.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

In this manuscript, Matsuda and collaborators present a model of how tracheal tubulogenesis is controlled in Drosophila embryos. Some of the results backing the model are new, but others are based on information already published by the authors. However, the results in this manuscript present different molecular markers not published before, which agree with previous conclusions. The manuscript also analyses the requirement of the dpp and EGFR signalling pathways for trachealess (trh) maintenance, one of the main tracheal transcription factors.

Strengths:

The two most interesting novel points of the manuscript are:

(1) Its contribution to the analysis of how the dpp and EGFR pathways contribute to the maintenance of trh expression.

(2) The experimental evidence showing that mechanical invagination is not a requirement for trh maintenance in the tracheal cells, an intriguing hypothesis previously suggested by (Kondo Hayashi 2019 eLife 8:e45145) that can now be discarded by the data presented in this work.

Weaknesses:

Because of the mixture of new and already published data, this manuscript can be considered as a review/experimental paper.

Already known data:<br /> - The results showing that hh and vvl drive tracheal invaginaton independently of trh are reported in Figure 5 of (Matsuda et al. 2015 eLife 4:e09646).<br /> - The results showing dpp requirement for trh maintenance are partially reported in Figure 6 of (Matsuda 2015 eLife 4:e09646).

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

Matsuda et al. investigate the regulatory mechanisms controlling gene expression and morphogenesis in the Drosophila embryonic trachea. Building on previous findings that tracheal invagination can occur independently of trh, they identify extrinsic hh and intrinsic vvl as key regulators that cooperatively promote this process. The study also integrates major signaling pathways (Dpp/BMP and EGFR) in defining tracheal cell identity and demonstrates that Ras activation can upregulate trh. Overall, the work supports a model in which multiple transcription factors and signaling inputs coordinate airway progenitor specification.

Strengths:

This study uses genetic analysis of various mutants to dissect regulatory relationships underlying tracheal development. While the uncoupling of tracheal invagination from trh function has been previously recognized, this work advances the field by identifying hh and vvl as key regulators of invagination independent of trh. The study also integrates multiple signaling pathways, such as Dpp/BMP and EGFR, into a coherent framework for tracheal cell specification. In addition, the demonstration that Ras activation can upregulate trh provides a clear mechanistic link between RTK signaling and transcriptional regulation. Overall, the work offers important and broadly relevant insights into how gene expression and morphogenesis are coordinated during development.

Weaknesses:

Data presentation and clarity of interpretation could be improved. Many images primarily show lateral views of whole embryos, which can make it difficult to fully assess some phenotypes; higher-magnification or sectional views would enhance clarity. There are also some minor inconsistencies in the description of invagination phenotypes, particularly regarding whether all trh+ cells remain in a 2D plane versus indications of partial invagination in hh vvl double mutants blocking apoptosis, which would benefit from further clarification. Finally, some statements in the abstract, especially regarding the role of grn, are not directly supported by data in this study and could be better aligned with the scope of the presented results.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

[Editors' note: this version has been assessed by the Reviewing Editor without further input from the original reviewers. The authors have addressed the comments raised in the previous round of review.]

Summary:

Zacharia and colleagues investigate the role of the C-terminus of IFT172 (IFT172c), a component of the IFT-B subcomplex. IFT172 is required for proper ciliary trafficking and mutations in its C-terminus are associated with skeletal ciliopathies. The authors begin by performing a pull-down to identify binding partners of His-tagged CrIFT172968-C in Chlamydomonas reinhardtii flagella. Interactions with three candidates (IFT140, IFT144, and a UBX-domain containing protein) are validated by AlphaFold Multimer with the IFT140 and IFT144 predictions in agreement with published cryo-ET structures of anterograde and retrograde IFT trains. They present a crystal structure of IFT172c and find that a part of the C-terminal domain of IFT172 resembles the fold of a non-canonical U-box domain. As U-box domains typically function to bind ubiquitin-loaded E2 enzymes, this discovery stimulates the authors to investigate the ubiquitin-binding and ubiquitination properties of IFT172c. Using in vitro ubiquitination assays with truncated IFT172c constructs, the authors demonstrate partial ubiquitination of IFT172c in the presence of the E2 enzyme UBCH5A. The authors also show a direct interaction of IFT172c with ubiquitin chains in vitro. Finally, the authors demonstrate that deletion of the U-box-like subdomain of IFT172 impairs ciliogenesis and TGFbeta signaling in RPE1 cells.

However, some of the conclusions of this paper are only partially supported by the data, and presented analyses are potentially governed by in vitro artifacts. In particular, the data supporting autoubiquitination and ubiquitin-binding are inconclusive. Without further evidence supporting a ubiquitin-binding role for the C-terminus, the title is potentially misleading.

Strengths:

(1) The pull-down with IFT172 C-terminus from C. reinhardtii cilia lysates is well performed and provides valuable insights into its potential roles.

(2) The crystal structure of the IFT172 C-terminus is of high quality.

(3) The presented AlphaFold-multimer predictions of IFT172c:IFT140 and IFT172c:IFT144 are convincing and agree with experimental cryo-ET data.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

Cilia are antenna-like extensions projecting from the surface of most vertebrate cells. Protein transport along the ciliary axoneme is enabled by motor protein complexes with multimeric so-called IFT-A and IFT-B complexes attached. While the components of these IFT complexes have been known for a while, precise interactions between different complex members, especially how IFT-A and IFT-B subcomplexes interact, are still not entirely clear. Likewise, the precise underlying molecular mechanism in human ciliopathies resulting from IFT dysfunction has remained elusive.

Here, the authors investigated the structure and putative function of the to-date poorly characterised C-terminus of IFT-B complex member IFT172 using alpha-fold predictions, crystallography and biochemical analyses including proteomics analyses followed by mass spectrometry, pull-down assays, and TGFbeta signalling analyses using chlamydomonas flagellae and RPE cells. The authors hereby provide novel insights into the crystal structure of IFT172 and identify novel interaction sites between IFT172 and the IFT-A complex members IFT140/IFT144. They suggest a U-box-like domain within the IFT172 C-terminus could play a role in IFT172 auto-ubiquitination as well as for TGFbeta signalling regulation.

As a number of disease-causing IFT72 sequence variants resulting in mammalian ciliopathy phenotypes in IFT172 have been previously identified in the IFT172 C-terminus, the authors also investigate the effects of such variants on auto-ubiquitination. This revealed no mutational effect on mono-ubiquitination which the authors suggest could be independent of the U-box-like domain but reduced overall IFT172 ubiquitination.

Strengths:

The manuscript is clear and well written and experimental data is of high quality. The findings provide novel insights into IFT172 function, IFT complex-A and B interactions, and they offer novel potential mechanisms that could contribute to the phenotypes associated with IFT172 C-terminal ciliopathy variants.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

Summary:

Zacharia et al report on the molecular function of the C-terminal domain of the intraflagellar transport IFT-B complex component IFT172 by structure determination and biochemical in vitro and cell culture-based assays. The authors identify an IFT-A binding site that mediates a mutually exclusive interaction to two different IFT-A subunits, IFT144 and IFT140, consistent with interactions suggested in anterograde and retrograde IFT trains by previous cryo-electron tomography studies. Additionally, the authors identify a U-box-like domain that binds ubiquitin and conveys ubiquitin conjugation activity in the presence of the UbcH5a E2 enzyme in vitro. RPE1 cell lines that lack the U-box domain show a reduction in ciliation rate with shorter cilia, and heterozygous cells manifest TGF-beta signaling defects, suggesting an involvement of the U-box domain in cilium-dependent signaling.

Strengths:

(1) The structural analyses of the C-terminal domain of IFT172 combine crystallography with structure prediction using state-of-the-art algorithms, which gives high confidence in the presented protein structures. The structure-based predictions of protein interactions are validated by further biochemical experiments to assess the specific binding of the IFT172 C-terminal domains with other proteins.

(2) The finding that the IFT172 C-terminus interactions with the IFT-A components IFT140 and IFT144 appear mutually exclusive confirm a suggested role in mediating the binding of IFT-B to IFT-A in anterograde and retrograde IFT trains, which is of very high scientific value.

(3) The suggested molecular mechanism of IFT train coordination explains previous findings in Chlamydomonas IFT172 mutants, in particular an IFT172 mutant that appeared defective in retrograde IFT, as well as mutations identified in ciliopathy patients.

(4) The identification of other IFT172 interactors by unbiased mass spectrometry-based proteomics is very exciting. Analysis of stoichiometries between IFT components suggests that these interactors could be part of IFT trains, either as cargos or additional components that may fulfill interesting functions in cilia and flagella.

(5) The authors unexpectedly identify a U-box-like fold in the IFT172 C-terminus and thoroughly dissect it by sequence and mutational analyses to reveal unexpected ubiquitin binding and potential intrinsic ubiquitination activity.

(6) The overall data quality is very high. The use of IFT172 proteins from different organisms suggests a conserved function.

Overall, the authors achieved to characterize an understudied protein domain of the ciliary intraflagellar transport machinery and gained important molecular insights into its role in primary cilia biology, beyond IFT. By identifying an unexpected functional protein domain and novel interaction partners the work makes an important contribution to further our understanding of how ciliary processes might be regulated by ubiquitination on a molecular level. Based on this work it will be important for future studies in the cilia community to consider direct ubiquitin binding by IFT complexes.

Conceptually, the study highlights that protein transport complexes can exhibit additional intrinsic structural features for potential auto-regulatory processes. Moreover, the study adds to the functional diversity of small U-box and ubiquitin-binding domains, which will be of interest to a broader cell biology and structural biology audience.