Reviewer #1 (Public review):

First, the authors confirm the up-regulation of the main genes involved in the three branches of the Unfolded Protein Response (UPR) system in diet-induced obese mice in AT, observations that have been extensively reported before. Not surprisingly, IRE1a inhibition with STF led to an amelioration of the obesity and insulin resistance of the animals. Moreover, non-alcoholic fatty liver disease was also improved by the treatment. More novel are their results in terms of thermogenesis and energy expenditure, where IRE1a seems to act via activation of brown AT. Finally, mice treated with STF exhibited significantly fewer metabolically active and M1-like macrophages in the AT compared to those under vehicle conditions. Overall, the authors conclude that targeting IRE1a has therapeutical potential for treating obesity and insulin resistance.

The study has some strengths, such as the detailed characterization of the effect of STF in different fat depots and a thorough analysis of macrophage populations. However, the lack of novelty in the findings somewhat limits the study´s impact on the field.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

The manuscript by Wu et al demonstrated that IRE1a inhibition mitigated insulin resistance and other comorbidities through increased energy expenditure in DIO mice. In this reviewer's opinion, this timely study has high significance in the field of metabolism research for the following reasons.

(1) The authors' findings are significant and may offer a new therapeutic target to treat metabolic diseases, including diabetes, obesity, NAFLD, etc.

(2) The authors carefully profiled the ATMs and examined the changes in gene expression after STF treatment.

(3) The authors presented evidence collected from both systemic indirect calorimetry and individual tissue gene expression to support the notion of increased energy expenditure.

Overall, the authors have presented sufficient background in a clear and logically organized structure, clearly stated the key question to be addressed, used the appropriate methodology, produced significant and innovative main findings, and made a justified conclusion.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

Summary:

The manuscript by Wu D. et al. explores an innovative approach to immunometabolism and obesity by investigating the potential of targeting macrophage Inositol-requiring enzyme 1α (IRE1α) in cases of overnutrition. Their findings suggest that pharmacological inhibition of IRE1α could influence key aspects such as adipose tissue inflammation, insulin resistance, and thermogenesis. Notable discoveries include the identification of High-Fat Diet (HFD)-induced CD9+ Trem2+ macrophages and the reversal of metabolically active macrophages' activity with IRE1α inhibition using STF. These insights could significantly impact future obesity treatments.

Strengths:

The study's key strengths lie in its identification of specific macrophage subsets and the demonstration that inhibiting IRE1α can reverse the activity of these macrophages. This provides a potential new avenue for developing obesity treatments and contributes valuable knowledge to the field.

Weaknesses:

The research lacks an in-depth exploration of the broader metabolic mechanisms involved in controlling diet-induced obesity (DIO). Addressing this gap would strengthen the understanding of how targeting IRE1α might fit into the larger metabolic landscape.

Impact and Utility:

The findings have the potential to advance the field of obesity treatment by offering a novel target for intervention. However, further research is needed to fully elucidate the metabolic pathways involved and to confirm the long-term efficacy and safety of this approach. The methods and data presented are useful, but additional context and exploration are required for broader application and understanding.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

This study examined the interaction between two key cortical regions in the mouse brain involved in goal-directed movements, the rostral forelimb area (RFA) - considered a premotor region involved in movement planning, and the caudal forelimb area (CFA) - considered a primary motor region that more directly influences movement execution. The authors ask whether there exists a hierarchical interaction between these regions, as previously hypothesized, and focus on a specific definition of hierarchy - examining whether the neural activity in the premotor region exerts a larger functional influence on the activity in the primary motor area than vice versa. They examine this question using advanced experimental and analytical methods, including localized optogenetic manipulation of neural activity in either region while measuring both the neural activity in the other region and EMG signals from several muscles involved in the reaching movement, as well as simultaneous electrophysiology recordings from both regions in a separate cohort of animals.

The findings presented show that localized optogenetic manipulation of neural activity in either RFA or CFA resulted in similarly short-latency changes in the muscle output and in firing rate changes in the other region. However, perturbation of RFA led to a larger absolute change in the neural activity of CFA neurons. The authors interpret these findings as evidence for reciprocal, but asymmetrical, influence between the regions, suggesting some degree of hierarchy in which RFA has a greater effect on the neural activity in CFA. They go on to examine whether this asymmetry can also be observed in simultaneously recorded neural activity patterns from both regions. They use multiple advanced analysis methods that either identify latent components at the population level or measure the predictability of firing rates of single neurons in one region using firing rates of single neurons in the other region. Interestingly, the main finding across these analyses seems to be that both regions share highly similar components that capture a high degree of variability of the neural activity patterns in each region. Single units' activity from either region could be predicted to a similar degree from the activity of single units in the other region, without a clear division into a leading area and a lagging area, as one might expect to find in a simple hierarchical interaction. However, the authors find some evidence showing a slight bias towards leading activity in RFA. Using a two-region neural network model that is fit to the summed neural activity recorded in the different experiments and to the summed muscle output, the authors show that a network with constrained (balanced) weights between the regions can still output the observed measured activities and the observed asymmetrical effects of the optogenetic manipulations, by having different within-region local weights. These results put into question whether previous and current findings that demonstrate asymmetry in the output of regions can be interpreted as evidence for asymmetrical (and thus hierarchical) inputs between regions, emphasizing the challenges in studying interactions between any brain regions.

Strengths:

The experiments and analyses performed in this study are comprehensive and provide a detailed examination and comparison of neural activity recorded simultaneously using dense electrophysiology probes from two main motor regions that have been the focus of studies examining goal-directed movements. The findings showing reciprocal effects from each region to the other, similar short-latency modulation of muscle output by both regions, and similarity of neural activity patterns without a clear lead/lag interaction, are convincing and add to the growing body of evidence that highlight the complexity of the interactions between multiple regions in the motor system and go against a simple feedforward-like network and dynamics. The neural network model complements these findings and adds an important demonstration that the observed asymmetry can, in theory, also arise from differences in local recurrent connections and not necessarily from different input projections from one region to the other. This sheds an important light on the multiple factors that should be considered when studying the interaction between any two brain regions, with a specific emphasis on the role of local recurrent connections, that should be of interest to the general neuroscience community.

Weaknesses:

While the similarity of the activity patterns across regions and lack of a clear leading/lagging interaction are interesting observations that are mostly supported by the findings presented (however, see comment below for lack of clarity in CCA/PLS analyses), the main question posed by the authors - whether there exists an endogenous hierarchical interaction between RFA and CFA - seems to be left largely open. The authors note that there is currently no clear evidence of asymmetrical reciprocal influence between naturally occurring neural activity patterns of the two regions, as previous attempts have used non-natural electrical stimulation, lesions, or pharmacological inactivation. The use of acute optogenetic perturbations does not seem to be vastly different in that aspect, as it is a non-natural stimulation of inhibitory interneurons that abruptly perturbs the ongoing dynamics. Furthermore, the main finding that supports a hierarchical interaction is a difference in the absolute change of firing rates as a result of the optogenetic perturbation, a finding that is based on a small number of animals (N = 3 in each experimental group), and one which may be difficult to interpret. As the authors nicely demonstrate in their neural network model, the two regions may differ in the strength of local within-region inhibitory connections. Could this theoretically also lead to a difference in the effect of the artificial light stimulation of the inhibitory inter-neurons on the local population of excitatory projection neurons, driving an asymmetrical effect on the downstream region? Moreover, the manipulation was performed upon the beginning of the reaching movement, while the premotor region is often hypothesized to exert its main control during movement preparation, and thus possibly show greater modulation during that movement epoch. It is not clear if the observed difference in absolute change is dependent on the chosen time of optogenetic stimulation and if this effect is a general effect that will hold if the stimulation is delivered during different movement epochs, such as during movement preparation.

Another finding that is not clearly interpretable is in the analysis of the population activity using CCA and PLS. The authors show that shifting the activity of one region compared to the other, in an attempt to find the optimal leading/lagging interaction, does not affect the results of these analyses. Assuming the activities of both regions are better aligned at some unknown ground-truth lead/lag time, I would expect to see a peak somewhere in the range examined, as is nicely shown when running the same analyses on a single region's activity. If the activities are indeed aligned at zero, without a clear leading/lagging interaction, but the results remain similar when shifting the activities of one region compared to the other, the interpretation of these analyses is not clear.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

While technical advances have enabled large-scale, multi-site neural recordings, characterizing inter-regional communication and its behavioral relevance remains challenging due to intrinsic properties of the brain such as shared inputs, network complexity, and external noise. This work by Saiki-Ishkawa et al. examines the functional hierarchy between premotor (PM) and primary motor (M1) cortices in mice during a directional reaching task. The authors find some evidence consistent with an asymmetric reciprocal influence between the regions, but overall, activity patterns were highly similar and equally predictive of one another. These results suggest that motor cortical hierarchy, though present, is not fully reflected in firing patterns alone.

Strengths:

Inferring functional hierarchies between brain regions, given the complexity of reciprocal and local connectivity, dynamic interactions, and the influence of both shared and independent external inputs, is a challenging task. It requires careful analysis of simultaneous recording data, combined with cross-validation across multiple metrics, to accurately assess the functional relationships between regions. The authors have generated a valuable dataset simultaneously recording from both regions at scale from mice performing a cortex-dependent directional reaching task.

Using electrophysiological and silencing data, the authors found evidence supporting the traditionally assumed asymmetric influence from PM to M1. While earlier studies inferred a functional hierarchy based on partial temporal relationships in firing patterns, the authors applied a series of complementary analyses to rigorously test this hierarchy at both individual neuron and population levels, with robust statistical validation of significance.

In addition, recording combined with brief optogenetic silencing of the other region allowed authors to infer the asymmetric functional influence in a more causal manner. This experiment is well designed to focus on the effect of inactivation manifesting through oligosynaptic connections to support the existence of a premotor to primary motor functional hierarchy.

Subsequent analyses revealed a more complex picture. CCA, PLS, and three measures of predictivity (Granger causality, transfer entropy, and convergent cross-mapping) emphasized similarities in firing patterns and cross-region predictability. However, DLAG suggested an imbalance, with RFA capturing CFA variance at a negative time lag, indicating that RFA 'leads' CFA. Taken together these results provide useful insights for current studies of functional hierarchy about potential limitations in inferring hierarchy solely based on firing rates.

While I would detail some questions and issues on specifics of data analyses and modeling below, I appreciate the authors' effort in training RNNs that match some behavioral and recorded neural activity patterns including the inactivation result. The authors point out two components that can determine the across-region influence - 1) the amount of inputs received and 2) the dependence on across-region input, i.e., the relative importance of local dynamics, providing useful insights in inferring functional relationships across regions.

Weaknesses:

(1) Trial-averaging was applied in CCA and PLS analyses. While trial-averaging can be appropriate in certain cases, it leads to the loss of trial-to-trial variance, potentially inflating the perceived similarities between the activity in the two regions (Figure 4). Do authors observe comparable degrees of similarity, e.g., variance explained by canonical variables? Also, the authors report conflicting findings regarding the temporal relationship between RFA and CFA when using CCA/PLS versus DLAG. Could this discrepancy be due to the use of trial-averaging in former analyses but not in the latter?

(2) A key strength of the current study is the precise tracking of forelimb muscle activity during a complex motor task involving reaching for four different targets. This rich behavioral data is rarely collected in mice and offers a valuable opportunity to investigate the behavioral relevance of the PM-M1 functional interaction, yet little has been done to explore this aspect in depth. For example, single-trial time courses of inter-regional latent variables acquired from DLAG analysis can be correlated with single-trial muscle activity and/or reach trajectories to examine the behavioral relevance of inter-regional dynamics. Namely, can trial-by-trial change in inter-regional dynamics explain behavioral variability across trials and/or targets? Does the inter-areal interaction change in error trials? Furthermore, the authors could quantify the relative contribution of across-area versus within-area dynamics to behavioral variability. It would also be interesting to assess the degree to which across-area and within-area dynamics are correlated. Specifically, can across-area dynamics vary independently from within-area dynamics across trials, potentially operating through a distinct communication subspace?

(3) While network modeling of RFA and CFA activity captured some aspects of behavioral and neural data, I wonder if certain findings such as the connection weight distribution (Figure 7C), across-region input (Figure 7F), and the within-region weights (Figure 7G), primarily resulted from fitting the different overall firing rates between the two regions with CFA exhibiting higher average firing rates. Did the authors account for this firing rate disparity when training the RNNs?

(4) Another way to assess the functional hierarchy is by comparing the time courses of movement representation between the two regions. For example, a linear decoder could be used to compare the amount of information about muscle activity and/or target location as well as time courses thereof between the two regions. This approach is advantageous because it incorporates behavior rather than focusing solely on neural activity. Since one of the main claims of this study is the limitation of inferring functional hierarchy from firing rate data alone, the authors should use the behavior as a lens for examining inter-areal interactions.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

This study investigates how two cortical regions that are central to the study of rodent motor control (rostral forelimb area, RFA, and caudal forelimb area, CFA) interact during directional forelimb reaching in mice. The authors investigate this interaction using<br /> (1) optogenetic manipulations in one area while recording extracellularly from the other,<br /> (2) statistical analyses of simultaneous CFA/RFA extracellular recordings, and<br /> (3) network modeling.<br /> The authors provide solid evidence that asymmetry between RFA and CFA can be observed, although such asymmetry is only observed in certain experimental and analytical contexts.

The authors find asymmetry when applying optogenetic perturbations, reporting a greater impact of RFA inactivation on CFA activity than vice-versa. The authors then investigate asymmetry in endogenous activity during forelimb movements and find asymmetry with some analytical methods but not others. Asymmetry was observed in the onset timing of movement-related deviations of local latent components with RFA leading CFA (computed with PCA) and in a relatively higher proportion and importance of cross-area latent components with RFA leading than CFA leading (computed with DLAG). However, no asymmetry was observed using several other methods that compute cross-area latent dynamics, nor with methods computed on individual neuron pairs across regions. The authors follow up this experimental work by developing a two-area model with asymmetric dependence on cross-area input. This model is used to show that differences in local connectivity can drive asymmetry between two areas with equal amounts of across-region input.

Overall, this work provides a useful demonstration that different cross-area analysis methods result in different conclusions regarding asymmetric interactions between brain areas and suggests careful consideration of methods when analyzing such networks is critical. A deeper examination of why different analytical methods result in observed asymmetry or no asymmetry, analyses that specifically examine neural dynamics informative about details of the movement, or a biological investigation of the hypothesis provided by the model would provide greater clarity regarding the interaction between RFA and CFA.

Strengths:

The authors are rigorous in their experimental and analytical methods, carefully monitoring the impact of their perturbations with simultaneous recordings, and providing valid controls for their analytical methods. They cite relevant previous literature that largely agrees with the current work, highlighting the continued ambiguity regarding the extent to which there exists an asymmetry in endogenous activity between RFA and CFA.

A strength of the paper is the evidence for asymmetry provided by optogenetic manipulation. They show that RFA inactivation causes a greater absolute difference in muscle activity than CFA interaction (deviations begin 25-50 ms after laser onset, Figure 1) and that RFA inactivation causes a relatively larger decrease in CFA firing rate than CFA inactivation causes in RFA (deviations begin <25ms after laser onset, Figure 3). The timescales of these changes provide solid evidence for an asymmetry in the impact of inactivating RFA/CFA on the other region that could not be driven by differences in feedback from disrupted movement (which would appear with a ~50ms delay).

The authors also utilize a range of different analytical methods, showing an interesting difference between some population-based methods (PCA, DLAG) that observe asymmetry, and single neuron pair methods (granger causality, transfer entropy, and convergent cross mapping) that do not. Moreover, the modeling work presents an interesting potential cause of "hierarchy" or "asymmetry" between brain areas: local connectivity that impacts dependence on across-region input, rather than the amount of across-region input actually present.

Weaknesses:

There is no attempt to examine neural dynamics that are specifically relevant/informative about the details of the ongoing forelimb movement (e.g., kinematics, reach direction). Thus, it may be preemptive to claim that firing patterns alone do not reflect functional influence between RFA/CFA. For example, given evidence that the largest component of motor cortical activity doesn't reflect details of ongoing movement (reach direction or path; Kaufman, et al. PMID: 27761519) and that the analytical tools the authors use likely isolate this component (PCA, CCA), it may not be surprising that CFA and RFA do not show asymmetry if such asymmetry is related to the control of movement details. An asymmetry may still exist in the components of neural activity that encode information about movement details, and thus it may be necessary to isolate and examine the interaction of behaviorally-relevant dynamics (e.g., Sani, et al. PMID: 33169030).

The idea that local circuit dynamics play a central role in determining the asymmetry between RFA and CFA is not supported by experimental data in this paper. The plausibility of this hypothesis is supported by the model but is not explored in any analyses of the experimental data collected. Given the focus on this idea in the discussion, further experimental investigation is warranted.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

This study investigates how ant group demographics influence nest structures and group behaviors of Camponotus fellah ants, a ground-dwelling carpenter ant species (found locally in Israel) that build subterranean nest structures. Using a quasi-2D cell filled with artificial sand, the authors perform two complementary sets of experiments to try to link group behavior and nest structure: first, the authors place a mated queen and several pupae into their cell and observe the structures that emerge both before and after the pupae eclose (i.e., "colony maturation" experiments); second, the authors create small groups (of 5,10, or 15 ants, each including a queen) within a narrow age range (i.e., "fixed demographic" experiments) to explore the dependence of age on construction. Some of the fixed demographic instantiations included a manually induced catastrophic collapse event; the authors then compared emergency repair behavior to natural nest creation. Finally, the authors introduce a modified logistic growth model to describe the time-dependent nest area. The modification introduces parameters that allow for age-dependent behavior, and the authors use their fixed demographic experiments to set these parameters, and then apply the model to interpret the behavior of the colony maturation experiments. The main results of this paper are that for natural nest construction, nest areas, and morphologies depend on the age demographics of ants in the experiments: younger ants create larger nests and angled tunnels, while older ants tend to dig less and build predominantly vertical tunnels; in contrast, emergency response seems to elicit digging in ants of all ages to repair the nest.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

I enjoyed this paper and the approach to examining an accepted wisdom of ants determining overall density by employing age polyethism that would reduce the computational complexity required to match nest size with population (although I have some questions about the requirement that growth is infinite in such a solution). Moreover, the realization that models of collective behaviour may be inappropriate in many systems in which agents (or individuals) differ in the behavioural rules they employ, according to age, location, or information state. This is especially important in a system like social insects, typically held as a classic example of individual-as-subservient to whole, and therefore most likely to employ universal rules of behaviour. The current paper demonstrates a potentially continuous age-related change in target behaviour (excavation), and suggests an elegant and minimal solution to the requirement for building according to need in ants, avoiding the invocation of potentially complex cognitive mechanisms, or information states that all individuals must have access to in order to have an adaptive excavation output.

The only real reservation I have is in the question of how this relationship could hold in properly mature colonies in which there is (presumably) a balance between the birth and death of older workers. Would the prediction be that the young ants still dig, or would there be a cessation of digging by young ants because the area is already sufficient? Another way of asking this is to ask whether the innate amount of digging that young ants do is in any way affected by the overall spatial size of the colony. If it is, then we are back to a problem of perfect information - how do the young ants know how big the overall colony is? Perhaps using density as a proxy? Alternatively, if the young ants do not modify their digging, wouldn't the colony become continuously larger? As a non-expert in social insects, I may be misunderstanding and it may be already addressed in the citations used.

In any case, this is an excellent paper. The modelling approach is excellent and compelling, also allowing extrapolation to other group sizes and even other species. This to me is the main strength of the paper, as the answer to the question of whether it is younger or older ants that primarily excavate nests could have been answered by an individual tracking approach (albeit there are practical limitations to this, especially in the observation nest setup, as the authors point out). The analysis of the tunnel structure is also an important piece of the puzzle, and I really like the overall study.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

Summary:

In this study, Harikrishnan Rajendran, Roi Weinberger, Ehud Fonio, and Ofer Feinerman measured the digging behaviours of queens and workers for the first 6 months of colony development, as well as groups of young or old ants. They also provide a quantitative model describing the digging behaviours and allowing predictions. They found that young ants dig more slanted tunnels, while older ants dig more vertically (straight down). This finding is important, as it describes a new form of age polyethism (a division of labour based on age). Age polyethism is described as a "yes or no" mechanism, where individuals perform or not a task according to their age (usually young individuals perform in-nest tasks, and older ones foraging). Here, the way of performing the task is modified, not only the propensity to carry it or not. This data therefore adds in an interesting way to the field of collective behaviours and division of labour.

The conclusions of the paper are well supported by the data. Measurements of the same individuals over time would have strengthened the claims.

Strengths:

I find that the measure of behaviour through development is of great value, as those studies are usually done at a specific time point with mature colonies. The description of a behaviour that is modified with age is a notable finding in the world of social insects. The sample sizes are adequate and all the information clearly provided either in the methods or supplementary.

Weaknesses:

I think the paper is failing to take into consideration or at least discuss the role of inter-individual variabilities. Tasks have been known to be undertaken by only a few hyper-active individuals for example. Comments on the choice to use averages and the potential roles of variations between individuals are in my opinion lacking. Throughout the paper wording should be modified to refer to the group and not the individuals, as it was the collective digging that was measured. Another issue I had was the use of "mature colony" for colonies with very few individuals and only 6 months of age. Comments on the low number of workers used compared to natural mature colonies would be welcome.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

The authors introduce a novel algorithm for the automatic identification of long-range axonal projections. This is an important problem as modern high-throughput imaging techniques can produce large amounts of raw data, but identifying neuronal morphologies and connectivities requires large amounts of manual work. The algorithm works by first identifying points in three-dimensional space corresponding to parts of labelled neural projections, these are then used to identify short sections of axons using an optimisation algorithm and the prior knowledge that axonal diameters are relatively constant. Finally, a statistical model that assumes axons tend to be smooth is used to connect the sections together into complete and distinct neural trees. The authors demonstrate that their algorithm is far superior to existing techniques, especially when dense labelling of the tissue means that neighbouring neurites interfere with the reconstruction. Despite this improvement, however, the accuracy of reconstruction remains below 90%, so manual proofreading is still necessary to produce accurate reconstructions of axons.

Strengths:

The new algorithm combines local and global information to make a significant improvement on the state-of-the-art for automatic axonal reconstruction. The method could be applied more broadly and might have applications to reconstructions of electron microscopy data, where similar issues of high-throughput imaging and relatively slow or inaccurate reconstruction remain.

Weaknesses:

There are three weaknesses in the algorithm and manuscript.

(1) The best reconstruction accuracy is below 90%, which does not fully solve the problem of needing manual proofreading.

(2) The 'minimum information flow tree' model the authors use to construct connected axonal trees has the potential to bias data collection. In particular, the assumption that axons should always be as smooth as possible is not always correct. This is a good rule-of-thumb for reconstructions, but real axons in many systems can take quite sharp turns and this is also seen in the data presented in the paper (Figure 1C). I would like to see explicit acknowledgement of this bias in the current manuscript and ideally a relaxation of this rule in any later versions of the algorithm.

(3) The writing of the manuscript is not always as clear as it could be. The manuscript would benefit from careful copy editing for language, and the Methods section in particular should be expanded to more clearly explain what each algorithm is doing. The pseudo-code of the Supplemental Information could be brought into the Methods if possible as these algorithms are so fundamental to the manuscript.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

In this manuscript, Cai et al. introduce PointTree, a new automated method for the reconstruction of complex neuronal projections. This method has the potential to drastically speed up the process of reconstructing complex neurites. The authors use semi-automated manual reconstruction of neurons and neurites to provide a 'ground-truth' for comparison between PointTree and other automated reconstruction methods. The reconstruction performance is evaluated for precision, recall, and F1-score and positions. The performance of PointTree compared to other automated reconstruction methods is impressive based on these 3 criteria.

As an experimentalist, I will not comment on the computational aspects of the manuscript. Rather, I am interested in how PointTree's performance decreases in noisy samples. This is because many imaging datasets contain some level of background noise for which the human eye appears essential for the accurate reconstruction of neurites. Although the samples presented in Figure 5 represent an inherent challenge for any reconstruction method, the signal-to-noise ratio is extremely high (also the case in all raw data images in the paper). It would be interesting to see how PointTree's performance changes in increasingly noisy samples, and for the author to provide general guidance to the scientific community as to what samples might not be accurately reconstructed with PointTree.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

Zhang et al. addressed the question of whether hyperaltruistic preference is modulated by decision context, and tested how oxytocin (OXT) may modulate this process. Using an adapted version of a previously well-established moral decision-making task, healthy human participants in this study undergo decisions that gain more (or lose less, termed as context) meanwhile inducing more painful shocks to either themselves or another person (recipient). The alternative choice is always less gain (or more loss) meanwhile less pain. Through a series of regression analyses, the authors reported that hyperaltruistic preference can only be found in the gain context but not in the loss context, however, OXT reestablished the hyperaltruistic preference in the loss context similar to that in the gain context.

Strengths:

This is a solid study that directly adapted a previously well-established task and the analytical pipeline to assess hyperaltruistic preference in separate decision contexts. Context-dependent decisions have gained more and more attention in literature in recent years, hence this study is timely. It also links individual traits (via questionnaires) with task performance, to test potential individual differences. The OXT study is done with great methodological rigor, including pre-registration. Both studies have proper power analysis to determine the sample size.

Weaknesses:

Despite the strengths, multiple analytical decisions have to be explained, justified, or clarified. Also, there is scope to enhance the clarity and coherence of the writing - as it stands, readers will have to go back and forth to search for information. Last, it would be helpful to add line numbers in the manuscript during the revision, as this will help all reviewers to locate the parts we are talking about.

(1) Introduction:<br /> The introduction is somewhat unmotivated, with key terms/concepts left unexplained until relatively late in the manuscript. One of the main focuses in this work is "hyperaltruistic", but how is this defined? It seems that the authors take the meaning of "willing to pay more to reduce other's pain than their own pain", but is this what the task is measuring? Did participants ever need to PAY something to reduce the other's pain? Note that some previous studies indeed allow participants to pay something to reduce other's pain. And what makes it "HYPER-altruistic" rather than simply "altruistic"? Plus, in the intro, the authors mentioned that the "boundary conditions" remain unexplored, but this idea is never touched again. What do boundary conditions mean here in this task? How do the results/data help with finding out the boundary conditions? Can this be discussed within wider literature in the Discussion section? Last, what motivated the authors to examine the decision context? It comes somewhat out of the blue that the opening paragraph states that "We set out to [...] decision context", but why? Are there other important factors? Why decision context is more important than studying those others?

(2) Experimental Design:<br /> (2a) The experiment per se is largely solid, as it followed a previously well-established protocol. But I am curious about how the participants got instructed? Did the experimenter ever mention the word "help" or "harm" to the participants? It would be helpful to include the exact instructions in the SI.

(2b) Relatedly, the experimental details were not quite comprehensive in the main text. Indeed, the Methods come after the main text, but to be able to guide readers to understand what was going on, it would be very helpful if the authors could include some necessary experimental details at the beginning of the Results section.

(3) Statistical Analysis<br /> (3a) One of the main analyses uses the harm aversion model (Eq1) and the results section keeps referring to one of the key parameters of it (ie, k). However, it is difficult to understand the text without going to the Methods section below. Hence it would be very helpful to repeat the equation also in the main text. A similar idea goes to the delta_m and delta_s terms - it will be very helpful to give a clear meaning of them, as nearly all analyses rely on knowing what they mean.

(3b) There is one additional parameter gamma (choice consistency) in the model. Did the authors also examine the task-related difference of gamma? This might be important as some studies have shown that the other-oriented choice consistency may differ in different prosocial contexts.

(3c) I am not fully convinced that the authors included two types of models: the harm aversion model and the logistic regression models. Indeed, the models look similar, and the authors have acknowledged that. But I wonder if there is a way to combine them? For example:<br /> Choice ~ delta_V * context * recipient (*Oxt_v._placebo)<br /> The calculation of delta_V follows Equation 1.<br /> Or the conceptual question is, if the authors were interested in the specific and independent contribution of dalta_m and dalta_s to behavior, as their logistic model did, why did the authors examine the harm aversion first, where a parameter k is controlling for the trade-off? One way to find it out is to properly run different models and run model comparisons. In the end, it would be beneficial to only focus on the "winning" model to draw inferences.

(3d) The interpretation of the main OXT results needs to be more cautious. According to the operationalization, "hyperaltruistic" is the reduction of pain of others (higher % of choosing the less painful option) relative to the self. But relative to the placebo (as baseline), OXT did not increase the % of choosing the less painful option for others, rather, it decreased the % of choosing the less painful option for themselves. In other words, the degree of reducing other's pain is the same under OXT and placebo, but the degree of benefiting self-interest is reduced under OXT. I think this needs to be unpacked, and some of the wording needs to be changed. I am not very familiar with the OXT literature, but I believe it is very important to differentiate whether OXT is doing something on self-oriented actions vs other-oriented actions. Relatedly, for results such as that in Figure 5A, it would be helpful to not only look at the difference but also the actual magnitude of the sensitivity to the shocks, for self and others, under OXT and placebo.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

In this manuscript, the authors reported two studies where they investigated the context effect of hyperaltruistic tendency in moral decision-making. They replicated the hyperaltruistic moral preference in the gain domain, where participants inflicted electric shocks on themselves or another person in exchange for monetary profits for themselves. In the loss domain, such hyperaltruistic tendency is abolished. Interestingly, oxytocin administration reinstated the hyperaltruistic tendency in the loss domain. The authors also examined the correlation between individual differences in utilitarian psychology and the context effect of hyperaltruistic tendency.

Strengths:

(1) The research question - the boundary condition of hyperaltruistic tendency in moral decision-making and its neural basis - is theoretically important.

(2) Manipulating the brain via pharmacological means offers a causal understanding of the neurobiological basis of the psychological phenomenon in question.

(3) Individual difference analysis reveals interesting moderators of the behavioral tendency.

Weaknesses:

(1) The theoretical hypothesis needs to be better justified. There are studies addressing the neurobiological mechanism of hyperaltruistic tendency, which the authors unfortunately skipped entirely.

(2) There are some important inconsistencies between the preregistration and the actual data collection/analysis, which the authors did not justify.

(3) Some of the exploratory analysis seems underpowered (e.g., large multiple regression models with only about 40 participants).

(4) Inaccurate conceptualization of utilitarian psychology and the questionnaire used to measure it.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

Summary:

In this study, the authors aimed to index individual variation in decision-making when decisions pit the interests of the self (gains in money, potential for electric shock) against the interests of an unknown stranger in another room (potential for unknown shock). In addition, the authors conducted an additional study in which male participants were either administered intranasal oxytocin or placebo before completing the task to identify the role of oxytocin in moderating task responses. Participants' choice data was analyzed using a harm aversion model in which choices were driven by the subjective value difference between the less and more painful options.

Strengths:

Overall I think this is a well-conducted, interesting, and novel set of research studies exploring decision-making that balances outcomes for the self versus a stranger, and the potential role of the hormone oxytocin (OT) in shaping these decisions. The pain component of the paradigm is well designed, as is the decision-making task, and overall the analyses were well suited to evaluating and interpreting the data. Advantages of the task design include the absence of deception, e.g., the use of a real study partner and real stakes, as a trial from the task was selected at random after the study and the choice the participant made was actually executed. 

Weaknesses:

The primary weakness of the paper concerns its framing. Although it purports to be measuring "hyper-altruism" it does not provide evidence to support why any of the behavior being measured is extreme enough to warrant the modifier "hyper" (and indeed throughout I believe the writing tends toward hyperbole, using, e.g., verbs like "obliterate" rather than "reduce"). More seriously, I do not believe that the task constitutes altruism, but rather the decision to engage, or not engage, in instrumental aggression.

I found it surprising that a paradigm that entails deciding to hurt or not hurt someone else for personal benefit (whether acquiring a financial gain or avoiding a loss) would be described as measuring "altruism." Deciding to hurt someone for personal benefit is the definition of instrumental aggression. I did not see that in any of the studies was there a possibility of acting to benefit the other participant in any condition. Altruism is not equivalent to refraining from engaging in instrumental aggression. True altruism would be to accept shocks to the self for the other's benefit (e.g., money).  The interpretation of this task as assessing instrumental aggression is supported by the fact that only the Instrumental Harm subscale of the OUS was associated with outcomes in the task, but not the Impartial Benevolence subscale. By contrast, the IB subscale is the one more consistently associated with altruism (e.g,. Kahane et al 2018; Amormino at al, 2022) I believe it is important for scientific accuracy for the paper, including the title, to be re-written to reflect what it is testing.

Relatedly: in the introduction I believe it would be important to discuss the non-symmetry of moral obligations related to help/harm--we have obligations not to harm strangers but no obligation to help strangers. This is another reason I do not think the term "hyper altruism" is a good description for this task--given it is typically viewed as morally obligatory not to harm strangers, choosing not to harm them is not "hyper" altruistic (and again, I do not view it as obviously altruism at all).

The framing of the role of OT also felt incomplete. In introducing the potential relevance of OT to behavior in this task, it is important to pull in evidence from non-human animals on origins of OT as a hormone selected for its role in maternal care and defense (including defensive aggression). The non-human animal literature regarding the effects of OT is on the whole much more robust and definitive than the human literature. The evidence is abundant that OT motivates the defensive care of offspring of all kinds. My read of the present OT findings is that they increase participants' willingness to refrain from shocking strangers even when incurring a loss (that is, in a context where the participant is weighing harm to themselves versus harm to the other). It will be important to explain why OT would be relevant to refraining from instrumental aggression, again, drawing on the non-human animal literature.

Another important limitation is the use of only male participants in Study 2. This was not an essential exclusion. It should be clear throughout sections of the manuscript that this study's effects can be generalized only to male participants.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

The paper by Auer et. makes several contributions:

(1) The study developed a novel approach to map the microstructural organization of the human amygdala by applying radiomics and dimensionality reduction techniques to high-resolution histological data from the BigBrain dataset.

(2) The method identified two main axes of microstructural variation in the amygdala, which could be translated to in vivo 7 Tesla MRI data in individual subjects.

(3) Functional connectivity analysis using resting-state fMRI suggests that microstructurally defined amygdala subregions had distinct patterns of functional connectivity to cortical networks, particularly the limbic, frontoparietal, and default mode networks.

(4) Meta-analytic decoding was used to suggest that the superior amygdala subregion's connectivity is associated with autobiographical memory, while the inferior subregion was linked to emotional face processing.

(5) Overall, the data-driven, multimodal approach provides an account of amygdala microstructure and possibly function that can be applied at the individual subject level, potentially advancing research on amygdala organization.

Although these are meritorious contributions there are some concerns that I will summarize below.

(1) The paper makes little-to-no contact with the monkey literature regarding the anatomy of amygdala subregions, their functionality, and their patterns of anatomical connectivity. This is surprising because such literature on non-human primates is a very important starting point for understanding the human amygdala. I recommend taking a careful look at the work by Helen Barbas, among others. There are too many papers to cite but a notable example is: Ghashghaei, H. T., Hilgetag, C. C., & Barbas, H. (2007). Sequence of information processing for emotions based on the anatomic dialogue between prefrontal cortex and amygdala. Neuroimage, 34(3), 905-923. The work of Amaral is also highly relevant. Furthermore, the authors subscribe to a model with LB, CM, and SF sectors. How does the SF sector relate to monkey anatomy?

(2) The authors use meta-analytical decoding via NeuroSynth. If the authors like those results of course they should keep them but the quality of coordinate reporting in the literature is insufficient to conclude much in the context of amygdala subregion function in my opinion. I believe the results reported are at most "somewhat suggestive".

(3) Another significant concern has to do with the results in Figure 3. The red and yellow clusters identified are quite distinct but the differences in functional connectivity are very modest. Figure 3C reveals very similar functional connectivity with the networks investigated. This is very surprising, and the authors should include a careful comparison with related findings in the literature. Overall, there is limited comparison between the observed results and those obtained via other methods. On a more pessimistic note, the results of Figure 3 seem to question the validity of the general approach.

(4) Some statements in the Discussion feel unwarranted. For example, "significant dissociation in functional connectivity to prefrontal structures that support self-referential, reward-related, and socio-affective processes." This feels way beyond what can be stated based on the analyses performed.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

This study bridges a micro- to macroscale understanding of the organization of the amygdala. First, using a data-driven approach, the authors identify structural clusters in the human amygdala from high-resolution post-mortem histological data. Next, multimodal imaging data to identify structural subunits of the amygdala and the functional networks in which they are involved. This approach is exciting because it permits the identification of both structural amygdalar subunits, and their functional implications, in individual subjects. There are, however, some differences in the macro and microscale levels of organization that should be addressed.

Strengths:

The use of data-driven parcellation on a structure that is important for human emotion and cognition, and the combination of this with high-resolution individual imaging-based parcellation, is a powerful and exciting approach, addressing both the need for a template-level understanding of organization as well as a parcellation that is valid for individuals. The functional decoding of rsfMRI permits valuable insight into the functional role of structural subunits. Overall, the combination of micro to macro, structure, and function, and general organization to individual relevance is an impressive holistic approach to brain mapping.

Weaknesses:

(1) UMAP 1, as calculated from the histological data, appears to correlate well across individuals, and decently with the MRI data, although the medial-lateral coordinate axis is an outlier. UMAP 2, on the other hand, does not appear to correlate well with imaging data or across individuals. This does pose a problem with the claim that this paper bridges micro- and macroscale parcellations. One might certainly expect, however, that different levels of organization might parcellate differently, but the authors should address this in the discussion and offer ways forward.

(2) It would be interesting to see functional decoding for the right amygdala. This could be included in the supplementary material. A discussion of differences in the results in the two hemispheres could be illuminating.

(3) The authors acknowledge that this mapping matches some but not all subunits that have been previously described in the amygdala. It would be helpful to neuroanatomists if the authors could discuss these differences in more detail in the discussion, to identify how this mapping differs and what the implications of this are.

(4) The acronym UMAP is not explained. A brief explanation and description would be useful to the reader.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

In this study, Fakhar et al. use a game-theoretical framework to model interregional communication in the brain. They perform virtual lesioning using MSA to obtain a representation of the influence each node exerts on every other node, and then compare the optimal influence profiles of nodes across different communication models. Their results indicate that cortical regions within the brain's "rich club" are most influential.

Strengths:

Overall, the manuscript is well-written. Illustrative examples help to give the reader intuition for the approach and its implementation in this context. The analyses appear to be rigorously performed and appropriate null models are included.

Weaknesses:

The use of game theory to model brain dynamics relies on the assumption that brain regions are similar to agents optimizing their influence, and implies competition between regions. The model can be neatly formalized, but is there biological evidence that the brain optimizes signaling in this way? This could be explored further. Specifically, it would be beneficial if the authors could clarify what the agents (brain regions) are optimizing for at the level of neurobiology - is there evidence for a relationship between regional influence and metabolic demands? Identifying a neurobiological correlate at the same scale at which the authors are modeling neural dynamics would be most compelling.

It is not entirely clear what Figure 6 is meant to contribute to the paper's main findings on communication. The transition to describing this Figure in line 317 is rather abrupt. The authors could more explicitly link these results to earlier analyses to make the rationale for this figure clearer. What motivated the authors' investigation into the persistence of the signal influence across steps?

The authors used resting-state fMRI data to generate functional connectivity matrices, which they used to inform their model of neural dynamics. If I understand correctly, their functional connectivity matrices represent correlations in neural activity across an entire fMRI scan computed for each individual and then averaged across individuals. This approach seems limited in its ability to capture neural dynamics across time. Modeling time series data or using a sliding window FC approach to capture changes across time might make more sense as a means of informing neural dynamics.

The authors evaluated their model using three different structural connectomes: one inferred from diffusion spectrum imaging in humans, one inferred from anterograde tract tracing in mice, and one inferred from retrograde tract-tracing in macaque. While the human connectome is presumably an undirected network, the mouse and macaque connectomes are directed. What bearing does experimentally inferred knowledge of directionality have on the derivation of optimal influence and its interpretation?

It would be useful if the authors could assess the performance of the model for other datasets. Does the model reflect changes during task engagement or in disease states in which relative nodal influence would be expected to change? The model assumes optimality, but this assumption might be violated in disease states.

The MSA approach is highly computationally intensive, which the authors touch on in the Discussion section. Would it be feasible to extend this approach to task or disease conditions, which might necessitate modeling multiple states or time points, or could adaptations be made that would make this possible?

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

The authors provide a compelling method for characterizing communication within brain networks. The study engages important, biologically pertinent, concerns related to the balance of dynamics and structure in assessing the focal points of brain communication. The methods are clear and seem broadly applicable, however further clarity on this front is required.

Strengths:

The study is well-developed, providing an overall clear exposition of relevant methods, as well as in-depth validation of the key network structural and dynamical assumptions. The questions and concerns raised in reading the text were always answered in time, with straightforward figures and supplemental materials.

Weaknesses:

The narrative structure of the work at times conflicts with the interpretability. Specifically, in the current draft, the model details are discussed and validated in succession, leading to confusion. Introducing a "base model" and "core datasets" needed for this type of analysis would greatly benefit the interpretability of the manuscript, as well as its impact.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

Winkler et al. present brain activity patterns related to complex motor behaviour by combining whole-head magnetoencephalography (MEG) with subthalamic local field potential (LFP) recordings from people with Parkinson's disease. The motor task involved repetitive circular movements with stops or reversals associated with either predictable or unpredictable cues. Beta and gamma frequency oscillations are described, and the authors found complex interactions between recording sites and task conditions. For example, they observed stronger modulation of connectivity in unpredictable conditions. Moreover, STN power varied across patients during reversals, which differed from stopping movements. The authors conclude that cortex-STN beta modulation is sensitive to movement context, with potential relevance for movement redirection.

Strengths:

This study employs a unique methodology, leveraging the rare opportunity to simultaneously record both invasive and non-invasive brain activity to explore oscillatory networks.

Weaknesses:

It is difficult to interpret the role of the STN in the context of reversals because no consistent activity pattern emerged.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

This study examines the role of beta oscillations in motor control, particularly during rapid changes in movement direction among patients with Parkinson's disease. The researchers utilized magnetoencephalography (MEG) and local field potential (LFP) recordings from the subthalamic nucleus to investigate variations in beta band activity within the cortex and STN during the initiation, cessation, and reversal of movements, as well as the impact of external cue predictability on these dynamics. The primary finding indicates that beta oscillations more effectively signify the start and end of motor sequences than transitions within those sequences. The article is well-written, clear, and concise.

Strengths:

The use of a continuous motion paradigm with rapid reversals extends the understanding of beta oscillations in motor control beyond simple tasks. It offers a comprehensive perspective on subthalamo-cortical interactions by combining MEG and LFP.

Weaknesses:

(1) The small and clinically diverse sample size may limit the robustness and generalizability of the findings. Additionally, the limited exploration of causal mechanisms reduces the depth of its conclusions and focusing solely on Parkinson's disease patients might restrict the applicability of the results to broader populations.

(2) The small sample size and variability in clinical characteristics among patients may limit the robustness of the study's conclusions. It would be beneficial for the authors to acknowledge this limitation and propose strategies for addressing it in future research. Additionally, incorporating patient-specific factors as covariates in the ANOVA could help mitigate the confounding effects of heterogeneity.

(3) The author may consider using standardized statistics, such as effect size, that would provide a clearer picture of the observed effect magnitude and improve comparability.

(4) Although the study identifies revelance between beta activity and motor events, it lacks causal analysis and discussion of potential causal mechanisms. Given the valuable datasets collected, exploring or discussing causal mechanisms would enhance the depth of the study.

(5) The study cohort focused on senior adults, who may exhibit age-related cortical responses during movement planning in neural mechanisms. These aspects were not discussed in the study.

(6) Including a control group of patients with other movement disorders who also undergo DBS surgery would be beneficial. Because we cannot exclude the possibility that the observed findings are specific to PD or can be generalized. Additionally, the current title and the article, which are oriented toward understanding human motor control, may not be appropriate.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

Summary:

The study highlights how the initiation, reversal, and cessation of movements are linked to changes in beta synchronization within the basal ganglia-cortex loops. It was observed that different movement phases, such as starting, stopping briefly, and stopping completely, affect beta oscillations in the motor system.

It was found that unpredictable cues lead to stronger changes in STN-cortex beta coherence. Additionally, specific patterns of beta and gamma oscillations related to different movement actions and contexts were observed. Stopping movements was associated with a lack of the expected beta rebound during brief pauses within a movement sequence.

Overall, the results underline the complex and context-dependent nature of motor-control and emphasize the role of beta oscillations in managing movement according to changing external cues.

Strengths:

The paper is very well written, clear, and appears methodologically sound.

Although the use of continuous movement (turning) with reversals is more naturalistic than many previous button push paradigms.

Weaknesses:

The generalizability of the findings is somewhat curtailed by the fact that this was performed peri-operatively during the period of the microlesion effect. Given the availability of sensing-enabled DBS devices now and HD-EEG, does MEG offer a significant enough gain in spatial localizability to offset the fact that it has to be done shortly postoperatively with externalized leads, with an attendant stun effect? Specifically, for paradigms that are not asking very spatially localized questions as a primary hypothesis?

Further investigation of the gamma signal seems warranted, even though it has a slightly lower proportional change in amplitude in beta. Given that the changes in gamma here are relatively wide band, this could represent a marker of neural firing that could be interestingly contrasted against the rhythm account presented.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

In this manuscript, Mendoza-Romero et al. investigate the effects of maternal high-fat diet (MHFD) on microglia and AgRP synaptic terminals in the hypothalamus of postnatal mice during lactation. The study employs 3D microglial morphology reconstruction and genetically targeted axonal labeling, offering a detailed examination of microglial changes and their implications for AgRP terminal density and body weight regulation, focusing on the PVN and ARC nuclei. The authors also use pharmacological (e.g., PLX5622) elimination of microglia to test the sufficiency of microglia to shape PVN AgRP+ synapses.

Strengths:

This is a well-written paper with a thorough introduction and discussion.

The impact of microglia on hypothalamic synaptic pruning is poorly characterized, so the findings herein are especially interesting.

Weaknesses:

(1) A cartoon paradigm of the HFD treatment window would be a helpful addition to Figure 1. Relatedly, the authors might consider qualifying MHFD as 'lactational MHFD.' Readers might miss the fact that the exposure window starts at birth.

(2) More details on the modeling pipeline are needed either in Figure 1 or text. Of the ~50 microglia that were counted (based on Figure 1J), were all 50 quantified for the morphological assessments? Were equal numbers used for the control and MHFD groups? Were the 3D models adjusted manually for accuracy? How much background was detected by IMARIS that was discarded? Was the user blind to the treatment group while using the pipeline? Were the microglia clustered or equally spread across the PVN?

(3) Suggest toning back some of the language. For example: "...consistent with enhanced activity and surveillance of their immediate microenvironment" (Line 195) could be "...perhaps consistent with...". Likewise, "profound" (Lines 194, 377) might be an overstatement.

(4) Representative images for AgRP+ cells (quantified in Figure 2J) are missing. Why not a co-label of Iba1+/AgRP+ as per Figure 1, 3? Also, what was quantified in Figure 2J - soma? Total immunoreactivity?

(5) For the PLX experiment:<br /> a) "...we depleted microglia during the lactation period" (Line 234). This statement suggests microglia decreased from the first injection at P4 and throughout lactation, which is inaccurate. PLX5622 effects take time, upwards of a week. Thus, if PLX5622 injections started at P4, it could be P11 before the decrease in microglia numbers is stable. Moreover, by the time microglia are entirely knocked down, the pups might be supplementing some chow for milk, making it unclear how much PLX5622 they were receiving from the dam, which could also impact the rate at which microglia repopulation commences in the fetal brain. Quantifying microglia across the P4-P21 treatment window would be helpful, especially at P16, since the PVN AgRP microglia phenotypes were demonstrated and roughly when pups might start eating some chow.

b) I am surprised that ~70% of the microglia are present at P21. Does this number reflect that microglia are returning as the pups no longer receive PLX5622 from milk from the dam? Does it reflect the poor elimination of microglia in the first place?

(6) Was microglia morphology examined for all microglia across the PVN? It is possible that a focus on PVNmpd microglia would reveal a stronger phenotype? In Figure 4H, J, AgRP+ terminals are counted in PVN subregions - PVNmpd and PVNpml, with PVNmpd showing a decrease of ~300 AgRP+ terminals in MHFD/Veh (rescued in MHFD/PLX5622). In Figure 1K, AgRP+ terminals across what appears to be the entire PVN decrease by ~300, suggesting that PVNmpd is driving this phenotype. If true, then do microglia within the PVNmpd display this morphology phenotype?

(7) What chow did the pups receive as they started to consume solid food? Is this only a MHFD challenge, or could the pups be consuming HFD chow that fell into the cage?

(8) Figure 5: Does internalized AgRP+ co-localize with CD68+ lysosomes? How was 'internalized' determined?

(9) Different sample sizes are used across experiments (e.g., Figure 4 NCD n=5, MHFD n=4). Does this impact statistical significance?

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

Microglia sense stressors and other environmental factors during the postnatal period in rodents and can sculpt developing circuits by promoting or pruning synaptic connections, depending on the brain region and context. Here, the authors examine the contributions of microglia to the effects of maternal high-fat diet during lactation (MHFD) to reduce the formation of projections from AgRP neurons in the ARH to the PVH, a critical node in circuits regulating energy balance. Using detailed histomorphometric analyses of Iba-1+ cells in 3 hypothalamic nuclei (ARH, PVH, and BNST) at two-time points (P16 and P30), the authors show that microglial volume and complexity increase while cell numbers decrease across this period. Exposure to MHFD is associated with an increase in the complexity/volume of microglia at P16 in the PVH but not in the other brain regions or time points assessed. The authors cite this as evidence of "spatial-specific" effects. They also demonstrate that reducing the number of microglia using a pharmacological approach (injection of the CSFR inhibitor from P4-P21) in pups exposed to MHFD enhances AgRP outgrowth to the PVH and reduces body weight at weaning, effectively reversing the effects of MHFD. The central claim in the manuscript is that microglia in the PVH "sculpt the density of AgRP inputs to the PVH" in a spatially restricted manner.

Strengths:

(1) Detailed 3-D reconstructions of Iba-1 staining in microglia are used to perform unbiased and comprehensive analyses of microglial complexity and to quantify the spatial relationship between microglial processes and AgRP terminals.

(2) The rationale for exploring whether the effects of maternal HFD on the formation of AgRP projections to the PVH is mediated via changes in microglia is supported by the literature. For example, microglial development in the postnatal hippocampus and cortex is sensitive to maternal factors, such as inflammation, with lasting effects on circuit formation and function.

(3) Here the authors explored whether changes in microglia contribute to the effects of maternal HFD feeding during lactation on the formation of AgRP to PVH circuits that are important for the regulation of food intake and energy expenditure.

Weaknesses:

(1) Under chow-fed conditions, there is a decrease in the number of microglia in the PVH and ARH between P16 and P30, accompanied by an increase in complexity/volume. With the exception of PVH microglia at P16, this maturation process is not affected by MHFD. This "transient" increase in microglial complexity could also reflect premature maturation of the circuit.

(2) The key experiment in this paper, the ablation of microglia, was presumably designed to prevent microglial expansion/activation in the PVH of MHFD pups. However, it also likely accelerates and exaggerates the decrease in cell number during normal development regardless of maternal diet. Efforts to interpret these findings are further complicated because microglial and AgRP neuronal phenotypes were not assessed at earlier time points when the circuit is most sensitive to maternal influences.

(3) Microglial loss was induced broadly in the forebrain. Enhanced AgRP outgrowth to the PVH could be caused by actions elsewhere, such as direct effects on AgRP neurons in the ARH or secondary effects of changes in growth rates.

(4) Prior publications from the authors and other groups support the idea that the density of AgRP projections to the PVH is primarily driven by factors regulating outgrowth and not pruning. The failure to observe increased engulfment of AgRP fibers by PVH microglia is surprising. Therefore, not surprising. The possibility that synaptic connectivity is modulated by microglia was not explored.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

Summary:

The authors interrogated the putative role of microglia in determining AgRP fiber maturation in offspring exposed to a maternal high-fat diet. They found that changes in specific parts of the hypothalamus (but not in others) occur in microglia and that the effect of microglia on AgRP fibers appears to be beyond synaptic pruning, a classical function of these brain-resident macrophages.

Strengths:

The work is very strong in neuroanatomy. The images are clear and nicely convey the anatomical differences. The microglia depletion study adds functional relevance to the paper; however, the pitfalls of the technology regarding functional relevance should be discussed.

Weaknesses:

There was no attempt to interrogate microglia in different parts of the hypothalamus functionally. Morphology alone does not reflect a potential for significant signaling alterations that may occur within and between these and other cell types.

The authors should discuss the limitations of their approach and findings and propose future directions to address them.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

The study by Hu et al. investigated the role of olfactory ErbB4 in regulating olfactory information processing. The authors demonstrated that ErbB4 deletion impairs odor discrimination, sensitivity, habituation, and dishabituation by using an impressive combination of techniques from morphological to electrophysiology (both slice and in vivo) and from viral injection to cell-type-specific mutation to behavioral analysis. The findings underscore the crucial role of ErbB4 in olfactory PV neurons in modulating mitral cell function and odor perception.

Strengths:

This study contains a pretty comprehensive set of experiments.

Major concerns:

(1) Line 151 page 7, "PV-Erbb4+/+ mice (generated by crossing PV-Cre mice (Wen et al., 2010) with loxP flanked Erbb4 mice". Does this mean mice carrying PV-Cre and ErbB4 floxed allele? Or with the WT allele? This is confusing. Figures 2B and 2C, ErbB4 expression was evident in many cells that were not positive for PV. What are the identities of those cells? Are they important?

(2) In Figure 4, the authors performed tetrode recordings in awake head-fixed animals. Although individual neuron spikes could be obtained by spike-sorting, this is not a "single-unit" experiment due to the nature of this approach.

What is the odor used in Figure 4? How did the authors clean up the odor to limit the stimulation within 2 seconds? In what layer were the tetrodes placed? What is the putative cell type presented in Figure 4C? If Figure 4C is a representative neuron recorded, the odor-induced suppression of spike activity seems to be impaired in PV-ErbB4-/- animals. However, Figure 4D shows that suppressed neurons were similar between the two types of animals. Such comparisons among individual mice are difficult for in vivo electrophysiological experiments because the recorded cell type and placement of electrodes would be different. The authors should apply ErbB4 inhibitors to the same animals and compare the effects before and after. This would ensure the recoding of the same population of neurons.

(3) At a glance in the heatmap in Figure 4D, excited neurons were reduced in PV-ErbB4-/- mice, but not inhibited neurons. This was different from Figure 4L. The authors need to have a criteria or threshold to show how they categorized each population.

(4) Figure 4D, 4F and 4J seemed to be inconsistent. In Figure 4D before odor, there was no clear increase in the spontaneous activity in PV-ErbB4-/- mice; in Figure 4F-4G and 4J-4K, clearly, there was a high spontaneous activity in PV-ErbB4-/- mice.

(5) What are the neurons recorded in Figure 6E-6F? If they were MCs, loss of ErbB4 in PV neurons should not alter their intrinsic electrical properties. Rather GABAergic inputs could be altered. Indeed, the authors presented a reduction of GABAergic inputs from PV neurons to MCs.

(6) Figure 8E-8H, a better experiment would be specifically expressing ErbB4 or PV neurons. In Figure 8F and Figure 8I, was it the excitability after the current injection? Why not perform the spontaneous activity recording?

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

Hu et al investigate the role of PV neurons and their expression of Erbb4 in olfactory performance through a series of behavioral tests, selective knockout experiments, and in vivo and in vitro electrophysiology. Knockout of Erbb4, either in PV cells or the whole OB, resulted in impairment of discriminating complex odors. The authors present data that inhibition is impaired in MCs, which is likely underlying the abnormal odor-evoked responses of MCs in vivo and the impaired behavioral responses.

Strengths:

Overall, a key strength of this manuscript is the breadth of experiments to test the role of PV Erbb4 expression on circuit dynamics and behavior. The behavioral experiments were clear and sufficiently powered.

Weaknesses:

The major drawback of this manuscript is the lack of depth and rigor in experiments. Some experiments are preliminary, underpowered, and not quantified. As a result, many conclusions of the manuscript are weakly supported in its current form and would require significant revisions to address these shortcomings. Major weaknesses that should be addressed are as follows:

AAV-PV-Cre-GFP is not described or validated. Is this the S5E2 enhancer or something else? What is the specificity and efficacy of this approach in selectively knocking out Erbb4 in PV neurons? Reduced Erbb4 expression in the entire OB with PCR does not validate the selectivity of this approach. At a titer of 10^12, it is unlikely to be specific. Even a small amount of off-target Cre expression will knock out the gene in non-PV cells, so the authors should show whether the gene is knocked out at the single cell level from PV and non-PC cells. Without validation of this approach, this experiment is no different than the AAV-Cre-GFP experiments.

Figure 1D - three mice per group is insufficient. There is no control group error (the same as Figure 9). Why is it a paired t-test when there is a control group? The authors should be comparing go/go vs. go/no-go. The methods for normalization are unclear and are likely to hide the fact that n=3 is insufficient to capture a difference without extra measures to normalize the data.

The analysis of LFP is limited. During what period was this quantified? Are there any differences in task-related LFP changes? Also related to in vivo electrophysiology, the authors should show examples of isolated units, including their waveforms and how units were clustered and assigned to M/TCs.

The authors use 80pA and 100pA to elicit equivalent AP spiking in MCs to determine if recurrent inhibition differs, but do not actually show that AP spiking is the same across groups. This should be quantified.

There seems to be a prominent increase in the firing of MCs in PV-Erbb4+/+ mice before odor presentation, but not in PV-Erbb4-/- mice. What is the significance of this?

There is a disconnect between the in vivo firing rates of MCs and ex vivo firing rates. In slice, the authors note that the spontaneous activity of MCs is elevated in the KO, but this is not observed in vivo, where conditions are physiological. Therefore, it is unclear whether the concept of signal-to-noise changes in slice (higher spontaneous, lower evoked), indeed translate to something in vivo. It would be important to know what the PV cells are doing in vivo. Perhaps they have low firing rates prior to odor onset, which may explain the lack of observed difference in baseline FRs in MCs. The authors should have this data in their tetrode recordings, which would offer insight into when inhibition is recruited.

Since PV neurons are required for gamma oscillations, why is it that KOs have higher gamma oscillations? Is it indeed the case that PV cells have a hypofunctional phenotype in this model? Again, recording from PV cells in vivo would help make sense of this.

A clearer picture of how PV cell inhibition changes with Erbb4 KO would be achieved with optogenetically evoked IPSPs, rather than changes in mini frequency.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

Summary:

The authors investigate the role of ErbB4 in parvalbumin (PV) interneurons within the olfactory bulb (OB) and its regulation of odor discrimination behavior in mice. They demonstrate that odor discrimination increases ErbB4 kinase activity and that the loss of ErbB4 in the OB impairs the dishabituation of odor response and discrimination of complex odors. The study also characterizes the expression of ErbB4 in the OB, showing it is enriched in PV neurons. Furthermore, the authors utilize a mouse model in which ErbB4 is knocked out in PV neurons and perform a variety of behavioral, electrophysiological, and local field potential (LFP) recording experiments to characterize alterations in olfactory bulb activity. They then use a model in which ErbB4 is specifically knocked out in PV neurons in the OB and show that this manipulation disrupts odor-related behaviors in mice.

Strengths:

The study's strengths lie in its use of a diverse range of techniques, including RNAscope, IHC, and Western blotting, to assess the presence of ErbB4 in PV neurons within the OB. Additionally, the authors employ various behavioral tests to evaluate the effects of ErbB4 manipulation in different mouse models, alongside comprehensive electrophysiological experiments and LFP recordings to examine the impact of these manipulations on OB physiology.

Weaknesses:

While the data presented in this paper are interesting, several major concerns reduce my enthusiasm for this study, as outlined below:

(1) In reviewing Figure 1C/D, there are several concerns regarding the clarity and interpretation of the data:

a) While the Western blot for ErbB4 in other figures (Figure 1F, 2I) of the manuscript shows a clear single band, the blot presented in Figure 1C (for both p-ErbB4 and total ErbB4) shows multiple bands, which is unexpected. This discrepancy raises concerns about the consistency of the results.

b) The data presented in Figure 1D uses only 3 mice per group, and the reported p-value of 0.0492, while technically significant, is very close to the threshold. This raises concerns about the robustness of the finding, especially given the small sample size. Additionally, the p-ErbB4 band intensity in the Go/No-Go condition in Figure 1C does not appear to show a clear increase over the Go/Go condition, which is not congruent with the bar graph in Figure 1D showing a 50% increase in p-ErbB4/ErbB4 levels.

c) It is a standard practice in many journals to include full, uncropped Western blot images as supplementary material. This transparency helps ensure that no bands are selectively shown or omitted and increases confidence in the presented data.

(2) In Figure 2, the authors used the anti-ErbB4 antibody sc-283 from Santa Cruz to assess the expression of ErbB4 in PV neurons and the absence of its expression in PV-ErbB4 knock-out mice. However, this particular antibody has been shown to produce non-specific bands in Western blotting and also generate non-specific labeling in IHC. This non-specificity has been demonstrated in Vullhorst et al. (2009, J Neurosci), raising significant concerns about the reliability of the data generated using this antibody.

(3) In reviewing the statistical analysis for the series of odor discrimination tests, there could be a potential issue with the clarity of the significance testing. Although the figure legend reports the F and p values from the two-way ANOVA, it is unclear whether these values represent the main effects or the results of a post hoc test. Additionally, it is not clear whether the asterisk in the figures reflects significance from a post hoc test or from the overall ANOVA. The methods section does not explicitly state whether a post hoc test was performed to assess differences between the knockout and control groups. Given that the tests were conducted across multiple days or conditions, a post hoc test that can adjust for multiple comparisons would be necessary to accurately identify where specific differences between the groups exist.

(4) Throughout the manuscript, the authors use different mouse models, including ErbB4 knockout specifically in the OB (AAV-Cre-GFP), ErbB4 knockout in PV interneurons throughout the brain (PV-ErbB4-/-), and ErbB4 knockout in PV interneurons within the OB (AAV-PV-Cre-GFP). For Figures 4 and 5, the authors use the PV-ErbB4-/- model to examine odor-evoked activity and neural oscillations within the OB. Since the knockout affects PV interneurons across the entire brain, it is difficult to disentangle whether the observed changes in the OB are due to local effects or broader network alterations elsewhere in the brain.

(5) While the electrophysiological experiments shown in Figures 6-8 provide valuable insights into the reduced inhibition to MCs in PV-ErbB4 knockout mice, it appears that the authors did not record from PV interneurons themselves. Since PV interneurons are central to the proposed mechanism, directly recording them would provide critical information on how the ErbB4 knockout affects their intrinsic properties, synaptic inputs, and firing behavior. Without these direct recordings, the conclusions about the specific role of PV neurons in regulating MC activity remain somewhat indirect. Prior studies have established that knockout of ErbB4 in PV interneurons reduces mEPSC frequency in PV neurons (Del Pino et al., 2013).

(6) In Figure 9, the authors knock out ErbB4 in PV neurons in the OB with AAV-PV-Cre-GFP and show with western blotting that ErbB4 expression is reduced in the mouse injected with AAV-PV-Cre-GFP. However, it is not clear whether ErbB4 was selectively knocked out in PV neurons without the quantification from IHC assays.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

In this study from Zhu and colleagues, a clear role for MED26 in mouse and human erythropoiesis is demonstrated that is also mapped to amino acids 88-480 of the human protein. The authors also show the unique expression of MED26 in later-stage erythropoiesis and propose transcriptional pausing and condensate formation mechanisms for MED26's role in promoting erythropoiesis. Despite the author's introductory claim that many questions regarding Pol II pausing in mammalian development remain unanswered, the importance of transcriptional pausing in erythropoiesis has actually already been demonstrated (Martell-Smart, et al. 2023, PMID: 37586368, which the authors notably did not cite in this manuscript). Here, the novelty and strength of this study is MED26 and its unique expression kinetics during erythroid development.

Strengths:

The widespread characterization of kinetics of mediator complex component expression throughout the erythropoietic timeline is excellent and shows the interesting divergence of MED26 expression pattern from many other mediator complex components. The genetic evidence in conditional knockout mice for erythropoiesis requiring MED26 is outstanding. These are completely new models from the investigators and are an impressive amount of work to have both EpoR-driven deletion and inducible deletion. The effect on red cell number is strong in both. The genetic over-expression experiments are also quite impressive, especially the investigators' structure-function mapping in primary cells. Overall the data is quite convincing regarding the genetic requirement for MED26. The authors should be commended for demonstrating this in multiple rigorous ways.

Weaknesses:

(1) The authors state that MED26 was nominated for study based on RNA-seq analysis of a prior published dataset. They do not however display any of that RNA-seq analysis with regards to Mediator complex subunits. While they do a good job showing protein-level analysis during erythropoiesis for several subunits, the RNA-seq analysis would allow them to show the developmental expression dynamics of all subunit members.

(2) The authors use an EpoR Cre for red cell-specific MED26 deletion. However, other studies have now shown that the EpoR Cre can also lead to recombination in the macrophage lineage, which clouds some of the in vivo conclusions for erythroid specificity. That being said, the in vitro erythropoiesis experiments here are convincing that there is a major erythroid-intrinsic effect.

(3) The donor chimerism assessment of mice transplanted with MED26 knockout cells is a bit troubling. First, there are no staining controls shown and the full gating strategy is not shown. Furthermore, the authors use the CD45.1/CD45.2 system to differentiate between donor and recipient cells in erythroblasts. However, CD45 is not expressed from the CD235a+ stage of erythropoiesis onwards, so it is unclear how the authors are detecting essentially zero CD45-negative cells in the erythroblast compartment. This is quite odd and raises questions about the results. That being said, the red cell indices in the mice are the much more convincing data.

(4) The authors make heavy use of defining "erythroid gene" sets and "non-erythroid gene" sets, but it is unclear what those lists of genes actually are. This makes it hard to assess any claims made about erythroid and non-erythroid genes.

(5) Overall the data regarding condensate formation is difficult to interpret and is the weakest part of this paper. It is also unclear how studies of in vitro condensate formation or studies in 293T or K562 cells can truly relate to highly specialized erythroid biology. This does not detract from the major findings regarding genetic requirements of MED26 in erythropoiesis.

(6) For many figures, there are some panels where conclusions are drawn, but no statistical quantification of whether a difference is significant or not.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

The manuscript by Zhu et al describes a novel role for MED26, a subunit of the Mediator complex, in erythroid development. The authors have discovered that MED26 promotes transcriptional pausing of RNA Pol II, by recruiting pausing-related factors.

Strengths:

This is a well-executed study. The authors have employed a range of cutting-edge and appropriate techniques to generate their data, including: CUT&Tag to profile chromatin changes and mediator complex distribution; nuclear run-on sequencing (PRO-seq) to study Pol II dynamics; knockout mice to determine the phenotype of MED26 perturbation in vivo; an ex vivo erythroid differentiation system to perform additional, important, biochemical and perturbation experiments; immunoprecipitation mass spectrometry (IP-MS); and the "optoDroplet" assay to study phase-separation and molecular condensates.

This is a real highlight of the study. The authors have managed to generate a comprehensive picture by employing these multiple techniques. In doing so, they have also managed to provide greater molecular insight into the workings of the MEDIATOR complex, an important multi-protein complex that plays an important role in a range of biological contexts. The insights the authors have uncovered for different subunits in erythropoiesis will very likely have ramifications in many other settings, in both healthy biology and disease contexts.

Weaknesses:

There are almost no discernible weaknesses in the techniques used, nor the interpretation of the data. The IP-MS data was generated in HEK293 cells when it could have been performed in the human CD34+ HSPC system that they employed to generate a number of the other data. This would have been a more natural setting and would have enabled a more like-for-like comparison with the other data.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

Summary:

The authors aim to explore whether other subunits besides MED1 exert specific functions during the process of terminal erythropoiesis with global gene repression, and finally they demonstrated that MED26-enriched condensates drive erythropoiesis through modulating transcription pausing.

Strengths:

Through both in vitro and in vivo models, the authors showed that while MED1 and MED26 co-occupy a plethora of genes important for cell survival and proliferation at the HSPC stage, MED26 preferentially marks erythroid genes and recruits pausing-related factors for cell fate specification. Gradually, MED26 becomes the dominant factor in shaping the composition of transcription condensates and transforms the chromatin towards a repressive yet permissive state, achieving global transcription repression in erythropoiesis.

Weaknesses:

In the in vitro model, the author only used CD34+ cell-derived erythropoiesis as the validation, which is relatively simple, and more in vitro erythropoiesis models need to be used to strengthen the conclusion.

Reviewer #1 (Public Review):

The authors investigate whether during free exploration of an environment with an internal structure of corridors and occasionally fluid-rewarded alleys, rat CA1 place cells generate multiple firing fields in repeating patterns, allowing the investigators to analyze whether firing field positional properties like alley orientation, and non-positional properties like heading, field-rate modulation and other properties are similar or different within and across single place cell place fields. They adopt a standard cognitive map analysis framework, conceiving each cell as an individual map element and characterizing each cell's individual activity independently of the activity of other cells, such that the main unit of analysis is a place field averaged across recording times of many minutes. Despite framing the work as an investigation of a fundamentally-subjective episodic memory system sensitive to hidden cognitive and attentional variables, the experiment and analyses are conceived as if the cells respond to positional and non-positional features of experience as static "inputs" that the investigators infer. These "inputs" are conceptualized as effectively stationary and steady, and they are not manipulated. The authors find that there are many "repeated" firing fields, that they tend to have similar orientation more than expected by chance, and that each field's rate is modulated distinctly by heading direction and other factors, leading them to conclude that each field's nonpositional inputs are "individually addressable." The authors do not consider alternative possibilities for which there are strong indications in the contemporary literature like 1) CA1 activity could be internally generated; 2) that there could be hidden cognitive variables that influence CA1 activity episodically and in non-stationary ways rather than consistently; 3) that CA1 cells exhibit mixed tuning to a variety of environmental and navigational variables; 4) that CA1 activity is better interpreted from the point-of-view of a neural ensemble or a neural manifold of conjoint neural activity that represents multiple information variables, or 5) that stable neural representations of information need not depend on stable stimulus-response properties of individual cells. In fact, the analyses provide evidence consistent with each of these alternatives, but they are not considered. There is a case to be made that the authors are allowed to ignore these alternatives because they properly engage the dogmatic point of view, in which case there is little to adjust in the manuscript, which is both well-conceived and well-executed in the classic (but not contemporary) norms of place cell investigations.

My comments are focused on improving the manuscript without insisting that the authors adopt alternative (contemporary) points of view, but requiring them to clarify their point of view and explain that there are alternatives.

(1) The authors define what they mean by "positional" and "non-positional" "inputs" later in the manuscript. Since the experimental apparatus and task have been designed to isolate these "inputs" the authors should in the initial description of the environment and task explain what the task does and does not allow them to analyze. Instead, they have repeatedly asserted that the environment is a hybrid of an open-field and a linear track environment. This may be the case, but so what? The authors need to better explain, up front, why that matters and what they will be able to investigate as a result. As written, this all seems to me rather vague and post hoc.

(2) The abstract states "Previous work implies a distinction between positional inputs to the hippocampus that provide information about an animal's location and non-positional inputs which provide information about the content of experience." While I understand what the authors mean, I want to point out that it is not straightforward to identify the "positional inputs" and the "non-positional inputs." What are they, how can they be measured? Is it not also possible that hippocampus generates "positional" information rather than receiving it, that is in fact the longstanding view of the cognitive map framework that the authors have adopted, and yet they frame the essential issue as one of differential receipt of positional and non-positional inputs. This seems to me imprecise and hard to defend but demonstrates the authors' opinion in framing this work. In my view a more objective and accurate statement might be "Previous work implies a distinction between hippocampal (positional) activity representing information about an animal's location and (non-positional) activity which represents information about the content of experience." This opinion about "inputs" is found throughout the manuscript over 50 times, starting with the title. While in my view this is not an objective treatment of the experimental design or data (positional and non-positional inputs are never identified or manipulated, they are merely inferred), I accept that the authors can say whatever they want so long as they make it clear to the reader that theirs is an opinion or assumption rather than a measurement. The manuscript is written as if the different inputs are identified and valid, rather than inferred.

(3) The abstract states "even though the animal's behavior was not constrained to 1-D trajectories" whereas page 13 states "but their trajectories were constrained to orthogonal directions by the city-maze architecture" and page 23 states "but their trajectories were constrained to a rectilinear grid." While I understand what the authors mean, the first statement appears to contradict the others. There are additional examples that I do not identify here. In any case, I would like to have seen examples of the animals' trajectories through the maze. A figure showing the raw trajectories and another after the unwanted behaviors have been filtered out should be given, allowing the reader to understand how much the animals tended to travel through the alleys, how much they turned and lingered within them, etc.

(4) The abstract ends with "These results demonstrate that the positional inputs that drive a cell to fire in similar locations across the maze can be behaviorally and temporally dissociated from the nonpositional inputs that alter the firing rates of the cell within its place fields, thereby increasing the flexibility of the system to encode episodic variables within a spatiotemporal framework provided by place cells." I don't see the evidence for the "thereby ..." claim. The authors are free to speculate and discuss but they should say they are speculating and/or discussing a possibility, rather than assert as if they have demonstrated a fact.

(5) The Introduction begins with "All behavior is embedded within a spatial and temporal framework." By this statement, I believe the authors mean to assert, or at least they cause a reader to understand that there is a spatial and temporal framework that is separate from the behaving subject. They will use this point of view to design their experiment around the utility of a city- maze. Since the authors appeal to cognitive map theory so much, I point out that O'Keefe and Nadel write in The Hippocampus as a Cognitive Map that "Space was a way of perceiving, not a thing to be perceived." Sentence number 2 of the book states "We shall argue that the hippocampus is the core of a neural memory system providing an objective spatial framework within which the items and events of an organism's experience are located and interrelated." Consistent with Kant and O'Keefe and Nadel, the present authors might more accurately state "All behavior is embedded within a subjective spatial and temporal framework." but then they will have to explain why they conceive of there being "positional inputs" to which they are measuring CA1 responses. This framing seems to me problematic and not logically self-consistent.

(6) On page 2 the authors assert "Neurons within the hippocampus respond to a wide array of sensory and otherwise nonspatial cues..." then they go on to list sensory features and "non-positional" features of experience to which CA1 cells respond. It seems to me they leave out a class of features of experience that might be considered "subjective spatial frames" that have been investigated by Gothard and Redish when they were in the McNaughton and Barnes lab, as well the Fenton and Muller labs, amongst others. All of these papers describe non-stationary, multi-stable place cell phenomena that are tied to subjective variables, which have the potential to undermine the premise of the present work's analyses and so they should be considered. I list a sample but certainly not all the work that might be considered.

Gothard KM, Skaggs WE, Moore KM, McNaughton BL (1996) Binding of hippocampal CA1 neural activity to multiple reference frames in a landmark-based navigation task. J Neurosci 16:823-835.

Gothard KM, Skaggs WE, McNaughton BL (1996) Dynamics of mismatch correction in the hippocampal ensemble code for space: interaction between path integration and environmental cues. J Neurosci 16:8027-8040.

Gothard KM, Hoffman KL, Battaglia FP, McNaughton BL (2001) Dentate gyrus and ca1 ensemble activity during spatial reference frame shifts in the presence and absence of visual input. J Neurosci 21:7284-7292.

Redish AD, Rosenzweig ES, Bohanick JD, McNaughton BL, Barnes CA (2000) Dynamics of hippocampal ensemble activity realignment: time versus space. J Neurosci 20:9298-9309.

Rosenzweig ES, Redish AD, McNaughton BL, Barnes CA (2003) Hippocampal map realignment and spatial learning. Nat Neurosci 6:609-615.

Jackson J, Redish AD (2007) Network dynamics of hippocampal cell-assemblies resemble multiple spatial maps within single tasks. Hippocampus 17:1209-1229

Lenck-Santini PP, Fenton AA, Muller RU (2008) Discharge properties of hippocampal neurons during performance of a jump avoidance task. J Neurosci 28:6773-6786.

Fenton AA, Lytton WW, Barry JM, Lenck-Santini PP, Zinyuk LE, Kubik S, Bures J, Poucet B, Muller RU, Olypher AV (2010) Attention-like modulation of hippocampus place cell discharge. J Neurosci 30:4613-4625.

Kelemen E, Fenton AA (2013) Key features of human episodic recollection in the cross-episode retrieval of rat hippocampus representations of space. PLoS Biol 11:e1001607.

(7) The Introduction asserts that "rate remapping" is a hypothesis. Rate remapping is a phenomenon, something that is observed. The interpretation of the observation as being the substrate of episodic memory is certainly a hypothesis that in my opinion has not been tested and is not being tested in the present work. After making the above statement, the authors go on to describe that firing rates differ across "repeated" firing fields, which seems to be a form of rate remapping, and predicted by the relevant hypothesis that different episodes of experience at the same locations are represented by different firing rates. This is very speculative and there are many other explanations.

(8) The Introduction ends with the statement "Here, we show that repeating fields of the same neuron do not always display the same nonpositional rate modulation, demonstrating that nonpositional cues are dissociable from, and more flexible than, the positional inputs onto place cells in a given environment." Apart from my concern about using the "input" terminology I which to point out that there is very little novel in this statement. It has been described many times before that on linear tracks CA1 firing fields are directionally modulated such that the field rates for traversals in one direction are different compared to field traversals in the opposite direction. Jackson and Redish (2007) cited above show this to be due to reference frame or map switching. That and other work allow one to state that "Others show that repeating fields of the same neuron do not always display the same nonpositional rate modulation, demonstrating that nonpositional cues are dissociable from, and more flexible than, the positional inputs onto place cells in a given environment." Either the present authors should acknowledge that they are demonstrating what others have already demonstrated, or they should more precisely describe what about their contribution is unique.

(9) Page 6 Methods - Data Filtering and Pre-processing. How did the authors handle theta cells and others that fired more or less everywhere but with spatial modulation?

(10) Page 9 Methods - Why was the session-wide activity used to normalize the firing rates for the activity vector input to the random forest classifier? The authors state "The normalized firing rate was computed as discussed above with the change that the session-wide activity in the alley was used." It seems to me better to have used the session-averaged firing rate map because the activity would be normalized by the expected positional firing. I imagine "The classifier used the population vector of firing rates as the input." is incorrect and the authors mean to state "The classifier used the population vector of normalized firing rates as the input."

(11) What does "spatially-gated" mean? The use of such jargon should be explained, or better avoided.

(12) Page 12: Since fields tend to have similar orientations, but not repeat at all geometrically similar locations, did they tend to be clustered? Was there a proximity feature to their distribution?

(13) Page 18 states "Thus, although there was a slight trend for repeating field ..." The authors are reporting a significant effect not a "slight trend." They do something similar in reporting Figure 5's result. Despite significant effects, they seem to think the findings are not large enough so state that repeating-field directionality is not conserved. It is fine to explain that a significant effect was small (for example give the effect size, which would have been welcome throughout) but as in these cases and others, the authors should be more objective in their reporting of the outcomes. Either a statistical test was or was not significant. It is not "a little" or "a lot" significant.

(14) Page 18: What do the authors mean by "topology?" Might they mean "topography?"

(15) Figure 6 shows field instability and multi-stability (termed temporal dynamics) as described on page 22. The recording sessions were 60 min. Is this impression simply due to long recording sessions? If 10 or 15 minutes of data were analyzed (which is more the norm), would similar instability be observed/detectable?

(16) I found the Discussion very confusing. On the one hand, there is an assertion that because the location of firing fields is stable there is a "positional code." How would that actually work? Any neural system has to signal by firing rates or firing coincidences across groups of cells (that are affected by changes in rate) so if there is firing field firing rate instability the authors should explain how position can be accurately decoded on a behaviorally-meaningful time scale. In fact, they should demonstrate such decoding explicitly. Just because there is modulation and instability, it is a rather long leap to assert that this is how episodic experience/memory is encoded (as stated at the end of the abstract and elsewhere for example on page 24: "The present data utilize repeating fields to suggest that, within an environment, the positional inputs are relatively rigid, whereas the nonpositional inputs are more flexible, allowing different repeating fields to show different directional preferences. In other words, fields are individually addressable with respect to the nonpositional inputs they receive; they do not inherit their nonpositional tuning as a global property of the cell." What does it mean that a field is "individually addressable?" How is that achieved by neurons? If the authors want to make such assertions they should explain and demonstrate how their assertions can be valid, given the data and findings. At least they should explain what they are assuming.<br /> The main findings seem related to the published finding that in large environments place cells have multiple firing fields, with distinct rates in each field, quite similar to what is here described in the city maze. In my opinion, positional representations can only plausibly work in such cases by using the conjoint population activity moment to moment, which necessarily marginalizes the value of individual firing fields, yet the present work focuses the discussion (and analyses) on interpretations of single firing fields (which they assert are individually addressable multiple times). I don't know what that means exactly and the authors should explain why maintaining the standard single-field perspective is appropriate and how position can be represented in such a system, given the data. In fact, I would have thought that the present findings would cause the authors to reject as invalid the framework they have adopted.

(17) This is a further example, on page 25 which asserts that "Directionality is affected by an animal's experience through the field (Navratilova et al., 2012), so it is possible the difference in experience between sampling fields on the same versus different corridors affects the directional tuning properties between them." I do not understand how "the difference in experience between sampling fields on the same versus different corridors affects the directional tuning properties between them." If I follow the logic then the so-called directionality would depend on experience and so only emerge after a certain time for experience, or else the firing during one traversal would need to be modulated by information about future traversals, which I suppose the authors would agree does not make sense.

(18) I found it at times confusing to follow the arguments because the terms "route" and "trajectory" and also "direction" and "heading" were used sometimes interchangeably and sometimes in ways that appear distinct.

(19) Page 25 states "One explanation for these data is that fields sampled along contiguous routes, without interruptions from heading change or reward delivery, are more likely to share their directionality." The authors should consider alternative explanations like reference frame shifts as mentioned in comment 6 above. These alternatives can be rejected based on data, but they should be considered because they seem to offer more parsimonious explanations for the observations than what the authors have offered. For example, what can explain the bimodality reported in Fig. 5G?

(20) The authors assert on page 15 that "In the present study, turns at the ends of corridors, along with reward deliveries, may be salient task boundaries at which point theta sequences are terminated. Fields active within the same theta sequence (typically same corridor fields) may be functionally coupled, while fields active on opposite sides of a theta sequence termination (different corridor fields) may be uncoupled and their tuning uncorrelated." The authors should check this. They recorded the LFPs. Why speculate when they can evaluate the speculation?

(21) The authors assert on page 26 "It is important to note that because a Pearson correlation was used, it is possible the fields are related in time with a phase shift, and we did not have the statistical power to test this possibility adequately." I either do not understand this statement or it is untrue. Please clarify.

(22) The authors continue on page 26, asserting "Thus, although it is clear that the place fields of repeating cells do not change their firing rates in synchrony, as if the cell had a global excitability change that made all its fields wax and wane together, it nonetheless remains an open question as to whether the subfields of repeating cells engage in certain types of competitive interactions or other network dynamics that couple changes in their firing rates in more complex ways." This statement implies that it might even be possible for firing fields in distinct and distant locations to be modulated together. Could the authors please explain how that is possible? A firing field is an observation that requires averaging over minutes and behavioral sampling across minutes. How might one cell be modulated to fire at a low rate during one minute and then at another minute later be modulated to fire at a high rate everywhere in the environment? Perhaps I am again not understanding the assertion - please clarify.

Reviewer #2 (Public Review):

The authors present evidence that free-foraging behavior within an environment having structural regularity in its distribution of obstacles (an internal "city block" configuration) yields multiple place-specific firing fields for CA1 neurons. These fields tend to be aligned to analogous locations within the environment. Aligned fields tend to share direction-biased tuning of place-specific activity. The distribution of in-field firing rates across repeating fields of individual neurons varies and in a reliable enough fashion, that reconstruction of the animal's location in the environment can still be achieved. These results are interpreted as reflecting a combined mapping of environmental position as well as repeating structural features of the environment. The results have strong implications for understanding how navigation and spatial awareness might be represented within environments having such regularities (e.g., a city such as Manhattan). Further, the results suggest that repeating firing fields for CA1 neurons can develop in the absence of regularized path-running behavior. Finally, the authors consider drift in the character of the representation across time to represent the position in time across the foraging session. This last claim lacks evidence for reproducibility and is unnecessarily speculative. Altogether, the work is original and, for the most part, well-evidenced.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

This paper describes the covalent interactions of small molecule inhibitors of carbonic anhydrase IX, utilizing a pre-cursor molecule capable of undergoing beta-elimination to form the vinyl sulfone and covalent warhead.

Strengths:

The use of a novel covalent pre-cursor molecule that undergoes beta-elimination to form the vinyl sulfone in situ. Sufficient structure-activity relationships across a number of leaving groups, as well as binding moieties that impact binding and dissociation constants.

Weaknesses:

No major weaknesses noted. Suggested corrections were addressed.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

The authors utilized a "ligand-first" targeted covalent inhibition approach to design potent inhibitors of carbonic anhydrase IX (CAIX) based on a known non-covalent primary sulfonamide scaffold. The novelty of their approach lies in their use of a protected pre-vinylsulfone as a precursor to the common vinylsulfone covalent warhead to target a nonstandard His residue in the active site of CAIX. In addition to biochemical assessment of their inhibitors, they showed that their compounds compete with a known probe on the surface of HeLa cells.

Strengths:

The authors use a protected warhead for what would typically be considered an "especially hot" or even "undevelopable" vinylsulfone electrophile. This would be the first report of doing so making it a novel targeted covalent inhibition approach specifically with vinylsulfones.

The authors used a number of orthogonal biochemical and biophysical methods including intact MS, 2D NMR, x-ray crystallography, and an enzymatic stopped-flow setup to confirm the covalency of their compounds and even demonstrate that this novel pre-vinylsulfone is activated in the presence of CAIX. In addition, they included a number of compelling analogs of their inhibitors as negative controls that address hypotheses specific to the mechanism of activation and inhibition.

The authors employed an assay that allows them to assess target engagement of their compounds with the target on the surface of cells and a fluorescent probe which is generally a critical tool to be used in tandem with phenotypic cellular assays.

Weaknesses:

This reviewer does not find any major weaknesses beyond those noted in the first round of review.<br /> I understand that some of the previously suggested experiments are cumbersome and I look forward to seeing this manuscript published as well as follow-up on this work in the future.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

Summary:

Targeted covalent inhibition of therapeutically relevant proteins is an attractive approach in drug development. This manuscript now reports a series of covalent inhibitors for human carbonic anhydrase (CA) isozymes (CAI, CAII, and CAIX, CAXIII) for irreversible binding to a critical histidine amino acid in the active site pocket. To support their findings, they included co-crystal structures of CAI, CAII, and CAIX in the presence of three such inhibitors. Mass spectrometry and enzymatic recovery assays validate these findings, and the results and cellular activity data are convincing.

Strengths:

The authors designed a series of covalent inhibitors and carefully selected non-covalent counterparts to make their findings about the selectivity of covalent inhibitors for CA isozymes quite convincing. The supportive X-ray crystallography and MS data are significant strengths. Their approach of targeted binding of the covalent inhibitors to histidine in CA isozyme may have broad utility for developing covalent inhibitors.

Weaknesses:

This reviewer did not find any significant weaknesses. The authors have incorporated most of my suggestions from the first round of review.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Previous studies have used a randomly induced label to estimate the number of hematopoietic precursors that contribute to hematopoiesis. In particular, the McKinney-Freeman lab established a measurable range of precursors of 50-2500 cells using random induction of one of the 4 fluorescent proteins (FPs) of a Confetti reporter in the fetal liver to show that hundreds of precursors establish lifelong hematopoiesis. In the presented work, Liu and colleagues aim to extend the measurable range of precursor numbers previously established and enable measurement in a variety of contexts beyond embryonic development. To this end, the authors investigated whether the random induction of a given Confetti FP follows the principles of binomial distribution such that the variance inversely correlates with the precursor number. The authors validated their hypothesis and identified sampling conditions to minimize experimental error using a simplified in vitro system. They use tamoxifen-inducible Scl-CreER, active in hematopoietic stem and progenitor cells (HSPCs), to induce Confetti labeling and investigate whether they could extend their model to cell numbers below 50 with in vivo transplantation of high versus low numbers of Confetti total bone marrow (BM) cells. The data generated are generally robust. While the lower and upper limits of the model may show some small error or have not yet been completely validated experimentally, it extends the measurable range of precursor from 15 - 10^5 cells. The authors then apply their model to estimate the number of hematopoietic precursors that contribute to hematopoiesis in a variety of contexts including adult steady state, fetal liver, following myeloablation, and a genetic model of Fanconi anemia.

Their data highlight the importance of estimating precursor numbers and not just donor frequency in transplantation settings and show that native hematopoiesis is highly polyclonal. Their data also confirm previous findings from Ganuza et al, 2022 that demonstrate no major expansion of precursors between E11.5 - E14.5. Finally, their work reveals intact Fancc-/-precursor numbers following transplantation, suggesting that the observed reduced chimerism is due to defects in cell proliferation.

The conclusions are generally sound and based on high-quality data. As the authors note, future studies should validate the model using alternative Cre-drivers to exclude any potential functional difference between labelled and non-labelled cells. Although this system does not permit tracing of individual clones, the modeling presented allows measurements of clonal activity covering nearly the entire HSPC population (as recently estimated by Cosgrove et al, 2021) and can be applied to a wide range of in vivo contexts with relative ease.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

The manuscript is well written, with beautiful and clear figures, and both methods and mathematical models are clear and easy to understand. Since 2017, Mikel Ganuza, Shannon McKinney-Freeman et al have been using these Confetti approaches that rely on calculating the variance across independent biological replicates as a way to infer clonal dynamics. This is a powerful tool and it is a pleasure to see it being implemented in more labs around the world. One of the cool novelties of the current manuscript is using a mathematical model (based on a binomial distribution) to avoid directly regressing the Confetti labeling variance with the number of clones (which only has linearity for a small range of clone numbers). As a result, this current manuscript of Liu et al. methodologically extends the usability of the Confetti approach, allowing them more precise and robust quantification.

They then use this model to revisit some questions from various Ganuza et al. papers, validating most of their conclusions. The application to the clonal dynamics of hematopoiesis in a model of Fanconi anemia (Fancc mice) is very much another novel aspect, and shows the surprising result that clonal dynamics are remarkably similar to the wild-type (in spite of the defect that these Fancc HSCs have during engraftment).

Overall, the manuscript succeeds at what it proposes to do, stretching out the possibilities of this Confetti model, which I believe will be useful for the entire community of stem cell biologists, and possibly make these assays available to other stem cell regenerating systems.

The revised version has incorporated the reviewer suggestions, strengthening the solidity of the arguments and statements, and highlighting alternative interpretations. My comments were addressed in full.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

The paper presents a solid method for quantifying hematopoietic precursors using statistical variance as a proxy, providing valuable insights into hematopoietic dynamics across different physiological and pathological scenarios. The findings are pivotal for understanding hematopoietic dynamics. The strength of the evidence is convincing and acknowledges limitations such as the binomial assumption and the need of tools to measure clonality.

Liu et al. focus on a mathematical method to quantify active hematopoietic precursors in mice using Confetti reporter mice combined with Cre-lox technology. The paper explores the hematopoietic dynamics in various scenarios, including homeostasis, myeloablation with 5-fluorouracil, Fanconi anemia (FA), and post-transplant environments. The key findings and strengths of the paper include (1) precursor quantification: The study develops a method based on the binomial distribution of fluorescent protein expression to estimate precursor numbers. This method is validated across a wide dynamic range, proving more reliable than previous approaches that suffered from limited range and high variance outside this range; (2) dynamic response analysis: The paper examines how hematopoietic precursors respond to myeloablation and transplantation; (3) application in disease models: The method is applied to the FA mouse model, revealing that these mice maintain normal precursor numbers under steady-state conditions and post-transplantation, which challenges some assumptions about FA pathology. Despite the normal precursor count, a diminished repopulation capability suggests other factors at play, possibly related to cell proliferation or other cellular dysfunctions. In addition, the FA mouse model showed a reduction in active lymphoid precursors post-transplantation, contributing to decreased repopulation capacity as the mice aged. The authors are aware of the limitation of the assumption of uniform expansion. The paper assumes a uniform expansion from active precursor to progenies for quantifying precursor numbers. This assumption may not hold in all biological scenarios, especially in disease states where hematopoietic dynamics can be significantly altered. If non-uniformity is high, this could affect the accuracy of the quantification. Overall, the study underscores the importance of precise quantification of hematopoietic precursors in understanding both normal and pathological states in hematopoiesis, presenting a robust tool that could significantly enhance research in hematopoietic disorders and therapy development. This manuscript would be interesting to the readers of eLife.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

This study serves as a proof of concept for KMO inhibition as a new non-hormonal treatment for endometriosis. The authors investigated KMO expression in human endometrial and endometriosis lesion tissues, confirmed that KNS898 effectively inhibits KMO and alleviates manifestations of endometriosis in mice - reduced endometriosis lesions and improved hyperalgesia and cage behaviour.

Strengths:

(1) Inhibition of KMO may present as a promising first-in-class non-hormonal therapeutic agent for patients suffering from endometriosis and the side-effects of hormonal treatments.<br /> (2) The expression of KMO in endometrial tissues was demonstrated in both human (multiple patients per AFS stage of disease) and mice tissues.<br /> (3) Measurement of multiple substrates/analytes of the KMO regulatory pathway was performed and demonstrated strong correlation to each other in response to KMO inhibition.<br /> (4) The aims of study (as proof-of-concept) were achieved in the study and the results support their conclusions.

Weaknesses:

If any dysregulation in the KMO/tryptophan metabolic activity, expression and/or pathway in endometriosis can be shown, this will strengthen the rationale for the use of KMO inhibitor in the disease.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

The authors aim to address the clinical challenge of treating endometriosis, a debilitating condition with limited and often ineffective treatment options. They propose that inhibiting KMO could be a novel non-hormonal therapeutic approach. Their study focuses on:<br /> • Obtaining proof-of-concept for KMO inhibition as a novel therapy for endometriosis.<br /> • Characterising KMO expression in human and mouse endometriosis tissues.<br /> • Demonstrating the efficacy of KMO inhibition in improving histological and symptomatic features of endometriosis.

Strengths:

• Novelty and Relevance: The study addresses a significant clinical need for better endometriosis treatments and explores a novel therapeutic target.

Weaknesses:

• Limited Mechanistic Insight: The study lacks a comprehensive investigation of the mechanistic pathways through which KNS898 affects endometriosis. The dysregulation of KMO activity and the kynurenine pathway in endometriosis remains poorly characterized, both in the human condition and the experimental model. While the authors present preliminary evidence that kynurenine metabolites (KYN, 3HK, and KYNA) are not dysregulated in the experimental model of endometriosis, they show that KMO inhibition modulates these metabolite levels and leads to some improvement in disease features. However, these findings do not significantly close the existing knowledge gap or provide a strong rationale for targeting KMO as a therapeutic approach for endometriosis. Further mechanistic insights are necessary to justify the potential of KMO inhibition in this context.

Achievement of Aims:

• The authors demonstrated that KMO is expressed in endometriosis lesions and that KNS898 can induce KMO inhibition, leading to biochemical changes and improvements in few endometriosis features in a mouse model. Therefore, the authors addressed the proposed specific aims. However, fail to provide a clear rationale for proposing KMO inhibition as a novel therapy for endometriosis.

Support of Conclusions:

• The conclusions are somewhat overextended given the limitations in mechanistic insights to explain how KMO inhibition result in improvment of histological and symptomatic features of experimental endometriosis. The study provides promising initial evidence but requires further exploration to firmly establish the efficacy of KNS898 for endometriosis treatment.

Impact on the Field:

• The study introduces a novel therapeutic target to be explored for endometriosis, potentially leading to non-hormonal treatment options.

Utility of Methods and Data:

• The methods used provide a foundation for further research, although they require refinement. The data, while promising, need more rigorous investigation and deeper mechanistic exploration to be fully convincing and useful to the community.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

Orlovski and his colleagues revealed an interesting phenomenon that SAP54-overexpressing leaf exposure to leafhopper males is required for the attraction of followed females. By transcriptomic analysis, they demonstrated that SAP54 effectively suppresses biotic stress response pathways in leaves exposed to the males. Furthermore, they clarified how SAP54, by targeting SVP, heightens leaf vulnerability to leafhopper males, thus facilitating female attraction and subsequent plant colonization by the insects.

Strengths:

The phenomenon of this study is interesting and exciting.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

In this study, the authors show that leaf exposure to leafhopper males is required for female attraction in the SAP54-expressing plant. They clarify how SAP54, by degrading SVP, suppresses biotic stress response pathways in leaves exposed to the males, thus facilitating female attraction and plant colonization.

Strengths:

This study suggests the possibility that the attraction of insect vectors to leaves is the major function of SAP54, and the induction of the leaf-like flowers may be a side-effect of the degradation of MTFs and SVP. It is a very surprising discovery that only male insect vectors can effectively suppress the plant's biotic stress response pathway. Although there has been interest in the phyllody symptoms induced by SAP54, the purpose and advantage of secreting SAP54 were unknown. The results of this study shed light on the significance of secreted proteins in the phytoplasma life cycle and should be highly evaluated.

Weaknesses:

There are no major weaknesses. The mechanism behind why only male leafhoppers reduce plant defense responses in the presence of SAP54 remains somewhat unclear, but clarifying this is beyond the scope of this study and is for future work.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

By employing human primary microvascular endothelial cells, along with live confocal imaging, proteomics, and chemical validation studies, the authors reveal a novel cellular mechanism underlying mycolactone's effects in Buruli ulcer lesions. This finding provides important insights into the specific mechanisms of skin pathogenesis.

Strengths:

The techniques employed are state-of-the-art.

Weaknesses:

The study lacks genetic validation of the findings.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

The authors have investigated the effect of the toxin mycolactone produced by Mycobacterium ulcerans on the endothelium. Mycobacterium ulcerans is involved in Buruli ulcer lesions classified as a neglected disease by WHO. This disease has dramatic consequences on the microcirculation causing important cutaneous lesions. The authors have previously demonstrated that endothelial cells are especially sensitive to mycolactone. The present study brings more insight into the mechanism involved in mycolactone-induced endothelial cells defect and thus in microcirculatory dysfunction. The authors showed that mycolactone directly affected the synthesis of proteoglycans at the level of the golgi with a major consequence on the quality of the glycocalyx and thus on the endothelial function and structure. Importantly, the authors show that blockade of the enzyme involve in this synthesis (galactosyltransferase II) phenocopied the effects of mycolactone. The effect of mycolactone on the endothelium was confirmed in vivo. Finally, the authors showed that exogenous laminin-511 reversed the effects of mycolactone, thus opening an important therapeutic perspective for the treatment of wound healing in patients suffering Buruli ulcer lesions.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

The investigators undertook detailed characterization of a previously proposed membrane targeting sequence (MTS), a short N-terminal peptide, of the bactofilin BacA in Caulobacter crescentus. Using light microscopy, single molecule tracking, liposome binding assays, and molecular dynamics simulations, they provide data to suggest that this sequence indeed does function in membrane targeting and further conclude that membrane targeting is required for polymerization. While the membrane association data are reasonably convincing, there are no direct assays to assess polymerization and some assays used lack proper controls as detailed below. Since the MTS isn't required for bactofilin polymerization in other bacterial homologues, showing that membrane binding facilitates polymerization would be a significant advance for the field.

Major concerns

(1) This work claims that the N-termina MTS domain of BacA is required for polymerization, but they do not provide sufficient evidence that the ∆2-8 mutant or any of the other MTS variants actually do not polymerize (or form higher order structures). Bactofilins are known to form filaments, bundles of filaments, and lattice sheets in vitro and bundles of filaments have been observed in cells. Whether puncta or diffuse labeling represents different polymerized states or filaments vs. monomers has not been established. Microscopy shows mis-localization away from the stalk, but resolution is limited. Further experiments using higher resolution microscopy and TEM of purified protein would prove that the MTS is required for polymerization.<br /> (2) Liposome binding data would be strengthened with TEM images to show BacA binding to liposomes. From this experiment, gross polymerization structures of MTS variants could also be characterized.<br /> (3) The use of the BacA F130R mutant throughout the study to probe the effect of polymerization on membrane binding is concerning as there is no evidence showing that this variant cannot polymerize. Looking through the papers the authors referenced, there was no evidence of an identical mutation in BacA that was shown to be depolymerized or any discussion in this study of how the F130R mutation might to analogous to polymerization-deficient variants in other bactofilins mentioned in these references.<br /> (4) Microscopy shows that a BacA variant lacking the native MTS regains the ability to form puncta, albeit mis-localized, in the cell when fused to a heterologous MTS from MreB. While this swap suggests a link between puncta formation and membrane binding the relationship between puncta and polymerization has not been established (see comment 1).<br /> (5) The authors provide no primary data for single molecule tracking. There is no tracking mapped onto microscopy images to show membrane localization or lack of localization in MTS deletion/variants. A known soluble protein (e.g. unfused mVenus) and a known membrane bound protein would serve as valuable controls to interpret the data presented. It also is unclear why the authors chose to report molecular dynamics as mean squared displacement rather than mean squared displacement per unit time, and the number of localizations is not indicated. Extrapolating from the graph in figure 4 D for example, it looks like WT BacA-mVenus would have a mobility of 0.5 (0.02/0.04) micrometers squared per second which is approaching diffusive behavior. Further justification/details of their analysis method is needed. It's also not clear how one should interpret the finding that several of the double point mutants show higher displacement than deleting the entire MTS. These experiments as they stand don't account for any other cause of molecular behavior change and assume that a decrease in movement is synonymous with membrane binding.<br /> (6) The experiments that map the interaction surface between the N-terminal unstructured region of PbpC and a specific part of the BacA bactofilin domain seem distinct from the main focus of the paper and the data somewhat preliminary. While the PbpC side has been probed by orthogonal approaches (mutation with localization in cells and affinity in vitro), the BacA region side has only been suggested by the deuterium exchange experiment and needs some kind of validation.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

The authors of this study investigated the membrane-binding properties of bactofilin A from Caulobacter crescentus, a classic model organism for bacterial cell biology. BacA was the progenitor of a family of cytoskeletal proteins that have been identified as ubiquitous structural components in bacteria, performing a range of cell biological functions. Association with the cell membrane is a common property of the bactofilins studied and is thought to be important for functionality. However, almost all bactofilins lack a transmembrane domain. While membrane association has been attributed to the unstructured N-terminus, experimental evidence had yet to be provided. As a result, the mode of membrane association and the underlying molecular mechanics remained elusive.

Liu at al. analyze the membrane binding properties of BacA in detail and scrutinize molecular interactions using in-vivo, in-vitro and in-silico techniques. They show that few N-terminal amino acids are important for membrane association or proper localization and suggest that membrane association promotes polymerization. Bioinformatic analyses revealed conserved lineage-specific N-terminal motifs indicating a conserved role in protein localization. Using HDX analysis they also identify a potential interaction site with PbpC, a morphogenic cell wall synthase implicated in Caulobacter stalk synthesis. Complementary, they pinpoint the bactofilin-interacting region within the PbpC C-terminus, known to interact with bactofilin. They further show that BacA localization is independent of PbpC.

Strengths

These data significantly advance the understanding of the membrane binding determinants of bactofilins and thus their function at the molecular level. The major strength of the comprehensive study is the combination of complementary in vivo, in vitro and bioinformatic/simulation approaches, the results of which are consistent.

Weaknesses:

The results are limited to protein localization and interaction, as there is no data on phenotypic effects. Therefore, the cell biological significance remains somewhat underrepresented.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

This paper tests the hypothesis that neuronal adaptation to spatial frequency affects the estimation of spatial population receptive field sizes as commonly measured using the pRF paradigm in fMRI. To this end, the authors modify a standard pRF setup by presenting either low or high SF (near full field) adaptation stimuli prior to the start of each run and interleaved between each pRF bar stimulus. The hypothesis states that adaptation to a specific spatial frequency (SF) should affect only a specific subset of neurons in a population (measured with an fMRI voxel), leaving the other neurons in the population intact, resulting in a shift in the tuning of the voxel in the opposite direction of the adapted stimulus (so high SF adaptation > larger pRF size and vice versa). The paper shows that this 'repelling' effect is robustly detectable psychophysically and is evident in pRF size estimates after adaptation in line with the hypothesized direction, thereby demonstrating a link between SF tuning and pRF size measurements in the human visual cortex.

Strengths:

The paper introduces a new experimental design to study the effect of adaptation on spatial tuning in the cortex, nicely combining the neuroimaging analysis with a separate psychophysical assessment.

The paper includes careful analyses and transparent reporting of single-subject effects, and several important control analyses that exclude alternative explanations based on perceived contrast or signal-to-noise differences in fMRI.

The paper contains very clear explanations and visualizations, and a carefully worded Discussion that helpfully contextualizes the results, elucidating prior findings on the effect of spatial frequency adaptation on size illusion perception.

Weaknesses:

The fMRI experiments consist of a relatively small sample size (n=8), of which not all consistently show the predicted pattern in all ROIs. For example, one subject shows a strong effect in the pRF size estimates in the opposite direction in V1. It's not clear if this subject is also in the psychophysical experiment and if there is perhaps a behavioral correlate of this deviant pattern. The addition of a behavioral task in the scanner testing the effect of adaptation could perhaps have helped clarify this (although arguably it's difficult to do psychophysics in the scanner). Although the effects are clearly robust at the group level here, a larger sample size could clarify how common such deviant patterns are, and potentially allow for the assessment of individual differences in adaption effects on spatial tuning as measured with fMRI, and their perceptual implications.

The psychophysical experiment in which the perceptual effects are shown included a neutral condition, which allowed for establishing a baseline for each subject and the discovery of an asymmetry in the effects with stronger perceptual effects after high SF adaptation compared to low SF. This neutral condition was lacking in fMRI, and thus - as acknowledged - this asymmetry could not be tested at the neural level, also precluding the possibility of comparing the obtained pRF estimates to the typical ranges found using standard pRF mapping procedures (without adaptation), or to compare the SNR using in the adaptation pRF paradigm with that of a regular paradigm, etc.

The results indicate quite some variability in the magnitude of the shift in pRF size across eccentricities and ROIs (Figure 5B). It would be interesting to know more about the sources of this variability, and if there are other effects of adaptation on the estimated retinotopic maps other than on pRF size (there is one short supplementary section on the effects on eccentricity tuning, but not polar angle).

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

The manuscript "Spatial frequency adaptation modulates population receptive field sizes" is a heroic attempt to untangle a number of visual phenomena related to spatial frequency using a combination of psychophysical experiments and functional MRI. While the paper clearly offers an interesting and clever set of measurements supporting the authors' hypothesis, my enthusiasm for its findings is somewhat dampened by the small number of subjects, high noise, and lack of transparency in the report. Despite several of the methods being somewhat heuristically and/or difficult to understand, the authors do not appear to have released the data or source code nor to have committed to doing so, and the particular figures in the paper and supplements give a view of the data that I am not confident is a complete one. If either data or source code for the analyses and figures were provided, this concern could be largely mitigated, but the explanation of the methods is not sufficient for me to be anywhere near confident that an expert could reproduce these results, even starting from the authors' data files.

Major Concerns:

I feel that the authors did a nice job with the writing overall and that their explanation of the topic of spatial frequency (SF) preferences and pRFs in the Introduction was quite nice. One relatively small critique is that there is not enough explanation as to how SF adaptation would lead to changes in pRF size theoretically. In a population RF, my assumption is that neurons with both small and large RFs are approximately uniformly distributed around the center of the population. (This distribution is obviously not uniform globally, but at least locally, within a population like a voxel, we wouldn't expect the small RFs to be on average nearer the voxel's center than the voxel's edges.) Why then would adaptation to a low SF (which the authors hypothesize results in higher relative responses from the neurons with smaller RFs) lead to a smaller pRF? The pRF size will not be a function of the mean of the neural RF sizes in the population (at least not the neural RF sizes alone). A signal driven by smaller RFs is not the same as a signal driven by RFs closer to the center of the population, which would more clearly result in a reduction of pRF size. The illustration in Figure 1A implies that this is because there won't be as many small RFs close to the edge of the population, but there is clearly space in the illustration for more small RFs further from the population center that the authors did not draw. On the other hand, if the point of the illustration is that some neurons will have large RFs that fall outside of the population center, then this ignores the fact that such RFs will have low responses when the stimulus partially overlaps them. This is not at all to say that I think the authors are wrong (I don't) - just that I think the text of the manuscript presents a bit of visual intuition in place of a clear model for one of the central motivations of the paper.

The fMRI methods are clear enough to follow, but I find it frustrating that throughout the paper, the authors report only normalized R2 values. The fMRI stimulus is a very interesting one, and it is thus interesting to know how well pRF models capture it. This is entirely invisible due to the normalization. This normalization choice likely leads to additional confusion, such as why it appears that the R2 in V1 is nearly 0 while the confidence in areas like V3A is nearly 1 (Figure S2). I deduced from the identical underlying curvature maps in Figures 4 and S2 that the subject in Figure 4 is in fact Participant 002 of Figure S2, and, assuming this deduction is correct, I'm wondering why the only high R2 in that participant's V1 (per Figure S2) seems to correspond to what looks like noise and/or signal dropout to me in Figure 4. If anything, the most surprising finding of this whole fMRI experiment is that SF adaptation seems to result in a very poor fit of the pRF model in V1 but a good fit elsewhere; this observation is the complete opposite of my expectations for a typical pRF stimulus (which, in fairness, this manuscript's stimulus is not). Given how surprising this is, it should be explained/discussed. It would be very helpful if the authors showed a map of average R2 on the fsaverage surface somewhere along with a map of average normalized R2 (or maps of each individual subject).

On page 11, the authors assert that "Figure 4c clearly shows a difference between the two conditions, which is evident in all regions." To be honest, I did not find this to be clear or evident in any of the highlighted regions in that figure, though close inspection leads me to believe it could be true. This is a very central point, though, and an unclear figure of one subject is not enough to support it. The plots in Figure 5 are better, but there are many details missing. What thresholding was used? Could the results in V1 be due to the apparently small number of data points that survive thresholding (per Figure S2)? I would very much like to see a kernel density plot of the high-adapted (x-axis) versus low-adapted (y-axis) pRF sizes for each visual area. This seems like the most natural way to evaluate the central hypothesis, but it's notably missing.

Regarding Figure 4, I was curious why the authors didn't provide a plot of the difference between the PRF size maps for the high-adapted and low-adapted conditions in order to highlight these apparent differences for readers. So I cut the image in half (top from bottom), aligned the top and bottom halves of the figure, and examined their subtraction. (This was easy to do because the boundary lines on the figure disappear in the difference figure when they are aligned correctly.) While this is hardly a scientific analysis (the difference in pixel colors is not the difference in the data) what I noticed was surprising: There are differences in the top and bottom PRF size maps, but they appear to correlate spatially with two things: (1) blobs in the PRF size maps that appear to be noise and (2) shifts in the eccentricity maps between conditions. In fact, I suspect that the difference in PRF size across voxels correlates very strongly with the difference in eccentricity across voxels. Could the results of this paper in fact be due not to shifts in PRF size but shifts in eccentricity? Without a better analysis of the changes in eccentricity and a more thorough discussion of how the data were thresholded and compared, this is hard to say.

While I don't consider myself an expert on psychophysics methods, I found the sections on both psychophysical experiments easy to follow and the figures easy to understand. The one major exception to this is the last paragraph of section 4.1.2, which I am having trouble following. I do not think I could reproduce this particular analysis based on the text, and I'm having a hard time imagining what kind of data would result in a particular PSE. This needs to be clearer, ideally by providing the data and analysis code.

Overall, I think the paper has good bones and provides interesting and possibly important data for the field to consider. However, I'm not convinced that this study will replicate in larger datasets - in part because it is a small study that appears to contain substantially noisy data but also because the methods are not clear enough. If the authors can rewrite this paper to include clearer depictions of the data, such as low- and high-adapted pRF size maps for each subject, per visual-area 2D kernel density estimates of low- versus high-adapted pRF sizes for each voxel/vertex, clear R2 and normalized-R2 maps, this could be much more convincing.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

This is a well-designed study examining an important, surprisingly understudied question: how does adaptation affect spatial frequency processing in the human visual cortex? Using a combination of psychophysics and neuroimaging, the authors test the hypothesis that spatial frequency tuning is shifted to higher or lower frequencies, depending on the preadapted state (low or high s.f. adaptation). They do so by first validating the phenomenon psychophysically, showing that adapting to 0.5 cpd stimuli causes an increase in perceived s.f., and 3.5 cpd causes a relative decrease in perceived s.f. Using the same stimuli, they then port these stimuli to a neuroimaging study, in which population receptive fields are measured under high and low spatial frequency adaptation states. They find that adaptation changes pRF size, depending on adaptation state: adapting to high s.f. led to broader overall pRF sizes across the early visual cortex, whereas adapting to low s.f. led to smaller overall pRF sizes. Finally, the authors carry out a control experiment to psychophysically rule out the possibility that the perceived contrast change w/ adaptation may have given rise to these imaging results (this doesn't appear to be the case). All in all, I found this to be a good manuscript: the writing is taut, and the study is well designed There are a few points of clarification that I think would help, though, including a little more detail about the pRF analyses carried out in this study. Moreover, one weakness is that the sample size is relatively small, given the variability in the effects.

(1) The pRF mapping stimuli and paradigm are slightly unconventional. This is, of course, fairly necessary to assess the question at hand. But, unless I missed it, there is a potentially critical piece of the analyses that I couldn't find in the results or methods: is the to-our adapter incorporated into the inputs for the pRF analyses, or was it simply estimating pRF size in response to the pRF mapping bar? Ignoring the large, full field-ish top-up seems like it might be dismissing an important nonlinearity in RF response to that aspect of the display (including that that had different s.f. content from the mapping stimulus) -especially because it occurred 50% of the time during the pRF mapping procedure. While the bar/top-up were events sub-TR, you could still model the prfprobe+topup response, then downsample to TR level afterwards. In any case, to fully understand this, some more detail is needed here regarding the prf fitting procedure.

(2) I appreciate the eccentricity-dependent breakdown in Figure 5b. However, it would be informative to have included the actual plots of the pRF size as a function of eccen, for the two conditions individually, in addition to the difference effects depicted in 5b.

(3) I know the N is small for this, but did the authors take a look at whether there was any relationship between the magnitude of the psychophysical effect and the change in pRF size, per individual? This is probably underpowered but could be worth a peek.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

This study addresses the issue of rapid skill learning and whether individual sequence elements (here: finger presses) are differentially represented in human MEG data. The authors use a decoding approach to classify individual finger elements, and accomplish an accuracy of around 94%. A relevant finding is that the neural representations of individual finger elements dynamically change over the course of learning. This would be highly relevant for any attempts to develop better brain machine interfaces - one now can decode individual elements within a sequence with high precision, but these representations are not static but develop over the course of learning.

Strengths:

The work follows a large body of work from the same group on the behavioural and neural foundations of sequence learning. The behavioural task is well established and neatly designed to allow for tracking learning and how individual sequence elements contribute. The inclusion of short offline rest periods between learning epochs has been influential because it has revealed that a lot, if not most of the gains in behaviour (ie speed of finger movements) occur in these so-called micro-offline rest periods.

The authors use a range of new decoding techniques, and exhaustively interrogate their data in different ways, using different decoding approaches. Regardless of the approach, impressively high decoding accuracies are observed, but when using a hybrid approach that combines the MEG data in different ways, the authors observe decoding accuracies of individual sequence elements from the MEG data of up to 94%.

Weaknesses:

There are a few concerns which the authors may well be able to resolve. These are not weaknesses as such, but factors that would be helpful to address as these concern potential contributions to the results that one would like to rule out.

Regarding the decoding results shown in Figure 2 etc, a concern is that within individual frequency bands, the highest accuracy seems to be within frequencies that match the rate of keypresses. This is a general concern when relating movement to brain activity, so is not specific to decoding as done here. As far as reported, there was no specific restraint to the arm or shoulder, and even then it is conceivable that small head movements would correlate highly with the vigor of individual finger movements. This concern is supported by the highest contribution in decoding accuracy being in middle frontal regions - midline structures that would be specifically sensitive to movement artefacts and don't seem to come to mind as key structures for very simple sequential keypress tasks such as this - and the overall pattern is remarkably symmetrical (despite being a unimanual finger task) and spatially broad. This issue may well be matching the time course of learning, as the vigor and speed of finger presses will also influence the degree to which the arm/shoulder and head move.

This is not to say that useful information is contained within either of the frequencies or broadband data. But it raises the question of whether a lot is dominated by movement "artefacts" and one may get a more specific answer if removing any such contributions.

A somewhat related point is this: when combining voxel and parcel space, a concern is whether a degree of circularity may have contributed to the improved accuracy of the combined data, because it seems to use the same MEG signals twice - the voxels most contributing are also those contributing most to a parcel being identified as relevant, as parcels reflect the average of voxels within a boundary. In this context, I struggled to understand the explanation given, ie that the improved accuracy of the hybrid model may be due to "lower spatially resolved whole-brain and higher spatially resolved regional activity patterns". Firstly, there will be a relatively high degree of spatial contiguity among voxels because of the nature of the signal measured, ie nearby individual voxels are unlikely to be independent. Secondly, the voxel data gives a somewhat misleading sense of precision; the inversion can be set up to give an estimate for each voxel, but there will not just be dependence among adjacent voxels, but also substantial variation in the sensitivity and confidence with which activity can be projected to different parts of the brain. Midline and deeper structures come to mind, where the inversion will be more problematic than for regions along the dorsal convexity of the brain, and a concern is that in those midline structures, the highest decoding accuracy is seen.

Some of these concerns could be addressed by recording head movement (with enough precision) to regress out these contributions. The authors state that head movement was monitored with 3 fiducials, and their timecourses ought to provide a way to deal with this issue. The ICA procedure may not have sufficiently dealt with removing movement-related problems, but one could eg relate individual components that were identified to the keypresses as another means for checking. An alternative could be to focus on frequency ranges above the movement frequencies. The accuracy for those still seems impressive, and may provide a slightly more biologically plausible assessment.

One question concerns the interpretation of the results shown in Figure 4. They imply that during the course of learning, entirely different brain networks underpin the behaviour. Not only that, but they also include regions that would seem rather unexpected to be key nodes for learning and expressing relatively simple finger sequences, such as here. What then is the biological plausibility of these results? The authors seem to circumnavigate this issue by moving into a distance metric that captures the (neural network) changes over the course of learning, but the discussion seems detached from which regions are actually involved; or they offer a rather broad discussion of the anatomical regions identified here, eg in the context of LFOs, where they merely refer to "frontoparietal regions".

If I understand correctly, the offline neural representation analysis is in essence the comparison of the last keypress vs the first keypress of the next sequence. In that sense, the activity during offline rest periods is actually not considered. This makes the nomenclature somewhat confusing. While it matches the behavioural analysis, having only key presses one can't do it in any other way, but here the authors actually do have recordings of brain activity during offline rest. So at the very least calling it offline neural representation is misleading to this reviewer because what is compared is activity during the last and during the next keypress, not activity during offline periods. But it also seems a missed opportunity - the authors argue that most of the relevant learning occurs during offline rest periods, yet there is no attempt to actually test whether activity during this period can be useful for the questions at hand here.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary

Dash et al. asked whether and how the neural representation of individual finger movements is "contextualized" within a trained sequence during the very early period of sequential skill learning by using decoding of MEG signal. Specifically, they assessed whether/how the same finger presses (pressing index finger) embedded in the different ordinal positions of a practiced sequence (4-1-3-2-4; here, the numbers 1 through 4 correspond to the little through the index fingers of the non-dominant left hand) change their representation (MEG feature). They did this by computing either the decoding accuracy of the index finger at the ordinal positions 1 vs. 5 (index_OP1 vs index_OP5) or pattern distance between index_OP1 vs. index_OP5 at each training trial and found that both the decoding accuracy and the pattern distance progressively increase over the course of learning trials. More interestingly, they also computed the pattern distance for index_OP5 for the last execution of a practice trial vs. index_OP1 for the first execution in the next practice trial (i.e., across the rest period). This "off-line" distance was significantly larger than the "on-line" distance, which was computed within practice trials and predicted micro-offline skill gain. Based on these results, the authors conclude that the differentiation of representation for the identical movement embedded in different positions of a sequential skill ("contextualization") primarily occurs during early skill learning, especially during rest, consistent with the recent theory of the "micro-offline learning" proposed by the authors' group. I think this is an important and timely topic for the field of motor learning and beyond.

Strengths

The specific strengths of the current work are as follows. First, the use of temporally rich neural information (MEG signal) has a large advantage over previous studies testing sequential representations using fMRI. This allowed the authors to examine the earliest period (= the first few minutes of training) of skill learning with finer temporal resolution. Second, through the optimization of MEG feature extraction, the current study achieved extremely high decoding accuracy (approx. 94%) compared to previous works. As claimed by the authors, this is one of the strengths of the paper (but see my comments). Third, although some potential refinement might be needed, comparing "online" and "offline" pattern distance is a neat idea.

Weaknesses

Along with the strengths I raised above, the paper has some weaknesses. First, the pursuit of high decoding accuracy, especially the choice of time points and window length (i.e., 200 msec window starting from 0 msec from key press onset), casts a shadow on the interpretation of the main result. Currently, it is unclear whether the decoding results simply reflect behavioral change or true underlying neural change. As shown in the behavioral data, the key press speed reached 3~4 presses per second already at around the end of the early learning period (11th trial), which means inter-press intervals become as short as 250-330 msec. Thus, in almost more than 60% of training period data, the time window for MEG feature extraction (200 msec) spans around 60% of the inter-press intervals. Considering that the preparation/cueing of subsequent presses starts ahead of the actual press (e.g., Kornysheva et al., 2019) and/or potential online planning (e.g., Ariani and Diedrichsen, 2019), the decoder likely has captured these future press information as well as the signal related to the current key press, independent of the formation of genuine sequential representation (e.g., "contextualization" of individual press). This may also explain the gradual increase in decoding accuracy or pattern distance between index_OP1 vs. index_OP5 (Figure 4C and 5A), which co-occurred with performance improvement, as shorter inter-press intervals are more favorable for the dissociating the two index finger presses followed by different finger presses. The compromised decoding accuracies for the control sequences can be explained in similar logic. Therefore, more careful consideration and elaborated discussion seem necessary when trying to both achieve high-performance decoding and assess early skill learning, as it can impact all the subsequent analyses.

Related to the above point, testing only one particular sequence (4-1-3-2-4), aside from the control ones, limits the generalizability of the finding. This also may have contributed to the extremely high decoding accuracy reported in the current study.

In terms of clinical BCI, one of the potential relevance of the study, as claimed by the authors, it is not clear that the specific time window chosen in the current study (up to 200 msec since key press onset) is really useful. In most cases, clinical BCI would target neural signals with no overt movement execution due to patients' inability to move (e.g., Hochberg et al., 2012). Given the time window, the surprisingly high performance of the current decoder may result from sensory feedback and/or planning of subsequent movement, which may not always be available in the clinical BCI context. Of course, the decoding accuracy is still much higher than chance even when using signal before the key press (as shown in Figure 4 Supplement 2), but it is not immediately clear to me that the authors relate their high decoding accuracy based on post-movement signal to clinical BCI settings.

One of the important and fascinating claims of the current study is that the "contextualization" of individual finger movements in a trained sequence specifically occurs during short rest periods in very early skill learning, echoing the recent theory of micro-offline learning proposed by the authors' group. Here, I think two points need to be clarified. First, the concept of "contextualization" is kept somewhat blurry throughout the text. It is only at the later part of the Discussion (around line #330 on page 13) that some potential mechanism for the "contextualization" is provided as "what-and-where" binding. Still, it is unclear what "contextualization" actually is in the current data, as the MEG signal analyzed is extracted from 0-200 msec after the keypress. If one thinks something is contextualizing an action, that contextualization should come earlier than the action itself.

The second point is that the result provided by the authors is not yet convincing enough to support the claim that "contextualization" occurs during rest. In the original analysis, the authors presented the statistical significance regarding the correlation between the "offline" pattern differentiation and micro-offline skill gain (Figure 5. Supplement 1), as well as the larger "offline" distance than "online" distance (Figure 5B). However, this analysis looks like regressing two variables (monotonically) increasing as a function of the trial. Although some information in this analysis, such as what the independent/dependent variables were or how individual subjects were treated, was missing in the Methods, getting a statistically significant slope seems unsurprising in such a situation. Also, curiously, the same quantitative evidence was not provided for its "online" counterpart, and the authors only briefly mentioned in the text that there was no significant correlation between them. It may be true looking at the data in Figure 5A as the online representation distance looks less monotonically changing, but the classification accuracy presented in Figure 4C, which should reflect similar representational distance, shows a more monotonic increase up to the 11th trial. Further, the ways the "online" and "offline" representation distance was estimated seem to make them not directly comparable. While the "online" distance was computed using all the correct press data within each 10 sec of execution, the "offline" distance is basically computed by only two presses (i.e., the last index_OP5 vs. the first index_OP1 separated by 10 sec of rest). Theoretically, the distance between the neural activity patterns for temporally closer events tends to be closer than that between the patterns for temporally far-apart events. It would be fairer to use the distance between the first index_OP1 vs. the last index_OP5 within an execution period for "online" distance, as well.

A related concern regarding the control analysis, where individual values for max speed and the degree of online contextualization were compared (Figure 5 Supplement 3), is whether the individual difference is meaningful. If I understood correctly, the optimization of the decoding process (temporal window, feature inclusion/reduction, decoder, etc.) was performed for individual participants, and the same feature extraction was also employed for the analysis of representation distance (i.e., contextualization). If this is the case, the distances are individually differently calculated and they may need to be normalized relative to some stable reference (e.g., 1 vs. 4 or average distance within the control sequence presses) before comparison across the individuals.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

Summary:

One goal of this paper is to introduce a new approach for highly accurate decoding of finger movements from human magnetoencephalography data via dimension reduction of a "multi-scale, hybrid" feature space. Following this decoding approach, the authors aim to show that early skill learning involves "contextualization" of the neural coding of individual movements, relative to their position in a sequence of consecutive movements. Furthermore, they aim to show that this "contextualization" develops primarily during short rest periods interspersed with skill training, and correlates with a performance metric which the authors interpret as an indicator of offline learning.

Strengths:

A clear strength of the paper is the innovative decoding approach, which achieves impressive decoding accuracies via dimension reduction of a "multi-scale, hybrid space". This hybrid-space approach follows the neurobiologically plausible idea of the concurrent distribution of neural coding across local circuits as well as large-scale networks. A further strength of the study is the large number of tested dimension reduction techniques and classifiers (though the manuscript reveals little about the comparison of the latter).

A simple control analysis based on shuffled class labels could lend further support to this complex decoding approach. As a control analysis that completely rules out any source of overfitting, the authors could test the decoder after shuffling class labels. Following such shuffling, decoding accuracies should drop to chance level for all decoding approaches, including the optimized decoder. This would also provide an estimate of actual chance-level performance (which is informative over and beyond the theoretical chance level). Furthermore, currently, the manuscript does not explain the huge drop in decoding accuracies for the voxel-space decoding (Figure 3B). Finally, the authors' approach to cortical parcellation raises questions regarding the information carried by varying dipole orientations within a parcel (which currently seems to be ignored?) and the implementation of the mean-flipping method (given that there are two dimensions - space and time - what do the authors refer to when they talk about the sign of the "average source", line 477?).

Weaknesses:

A clear weakness of the paper lies in the authors' conclusions regarding "contextualization". Several potential confounds, described below, question the neurobiological implications proposed by the authors and provide a simpler explanation of the results. Furthermore, the paper follows the assumption that short breaks result in offline skill learning, while recent evidence, described below, casts doubt on this assumption.

The authors interpret the ordinal position information captured by their decoding approach as a reflection of neural coding dedicated to the local context of a movement (Figure 4). One way to dissociate ordinal position information from information about the moving effectors is to train a classifier on one sequence and test the classifier on other sequences that require the same movements, but in different positions (Kornysheva et al., Neuron 2019). In the present study, however, participants trained to repeat a single sequence (4-1-3-2-4). As a result, ordinal position information is potentially confounded by the fixed finger transitions around each of the two critical positions (first and fifth press). Across consecutive correct sequences, the first keypress in a given sequence was always preceded by a movement of the index finger (=last movement of the preceding sequence), and followed by a little finger movement. The last keypress, on the other hand, was always preceded by a ring finger movement, and followed by an index finger movement (=first movement of the next sequence). Figure 4 - Supplement 2 shows that finger identity can be decoded with high accuracy (>70%) across a large time window around the time of the key press, up to at least {plus minus}100 ms (and likely beyond, given that decoding accuracy is still high at the boundaries of the window depicted in that figure). This time window approaches the keypress transition times in this study. Given that distinct finger transitions characterized the first and fifth keypress, the classifier could thus rely on persistent (or "lingering") information from the preceding finger movement, and/or "preparatory" information about the subsequent finger movement, in order to dissociate the first and fifth keypress. Currently, the manuscript provides no evidence that the context information captured by the decoding approach is more than a by-product of temporally extended, and therefore overlapping, but independent neural representations of consecutive keypresses that are executed in close temporal proximity - rather than a neural representation dedicated to context.

Such temporal overlap of consecutive, independent finger representations may also account for the dynamics of "ordinal coding"/"contextualization", i.e., the increase in 2-class decoding accuracy, across Day 1 (Figure 4C). As learning progresses, both tapping speed and the consistency of keypress transition times increase (Figure 1), i.e., consecutive keypresses are closer in time, and more consistently so. As a result, information related to a given keypress is increasingly overlapping in time with information related to the preceding and subsequent keypresses. The authors seem to argue that their regression analysis in Figure 5 - Figure Supplement 3 speaks against any influence of tapping speed on "ordinal coding" (even though that argument is not made explicitly in the manuscript). However, Figure 5 - Figure Supplement 3 shows inter-individual differences in a between-subject analysis (across trials, as in panel A, or separately for each trial, as in panel B), and, therefore, says little about the within-subject dynamics of "ordinal coding" across the experiment. A regression of trial-by-trial "ordinal coding" on trial-by-trial tapping speed (either within-subject or at a group-level, after averaging across subjects) could address this issue. Given the highly similar dynamics of "ordinal coding" on the one hand (Figure 4C), and tapping speed on the other hand (Figure 1B), I would expect a strong relationship between the two in the suggested within-subject (or group-level) regression. Furthermore, learning should increase the number of (consecutively) correct sequences, and, thus, the consistency of finger transitions. Therefore, the increase in 2-class decoding accuracy may simply reflect an increasing overlap in time of increasingly consistent information from consecutive keypresses, which allows the classifier to dissociate the first and fifth keypress more reliably as learning progresses, simply based on the characteristic finger transitions associated with each. In other words, given that the physical context of a given keypress changes as learning progresses - keypresses move closer together in time and are more consistently correct - it seems problematic to conclude that the mental representation of that context changes. To draw that conclusion, the physical context should remain stable (or any changes to the physical context should be controlled for).

A similar difference in physical context may explain why neural representation distances ("differentiation") differ between rest and practice (Figure 5). The authors define "offline differentiation" by comparing the hybrid space features of the last index finger movement of a trial (ordinal position 5) and the first index finger movement of the next trial (ordinal position 1). However, the latter is not only the first movement in the sequence but also the very first movement in that trial (at least in trials that started with a correct sequence), i.e., not preceded by any recent movement. In contrast, the last index finger of the last correct sequence in the preceding trial includes the characteristic finger transition from the fourth to the fifth movement. Thus, there is more overlapping information arising from the consistent, neighbouring keypresses for the last index finger movement, compared to the first index finger movement of the next trial. A strong difference (larger neural representation distance) between these two movements is, therefore, not surprising, given the task design, and this difference is also expected to increase with learning, given the increase in tapping speed, and the consequent stronger overlap in representations for consecutive keypresses. Furthermore, initiating a new sequence involves pre-planning, while ongoing practice relies on online planning (Ariani et al., eNeuro 2021), i.e., two mental operations that are dissociable at the level of neural representation (Ariani et al., bioRxiv 2023).

Given these differences in the physical context and associated mental processes, it is not surprising that "offline differentiation", as defined here, is more pronounced than "online differentiation". For the latter, the authors compared movements that were better matched regarding the presence of consistent preceding and subsequent keypresses (online differentiation was defined as the mean difference between all first vs. last index finger movements during practice). It is unclear why the authors did not follow a similar definition for "online differentiation" as for "micro-online gains" (and, indeed, a definition that is more consistent with their definition of "offline differentiation"), i.e., the difference between the first index finger movement of the first correct sequence during practice, and the last index finger of the last correct sequence. While these two movements are, again, not matched for the presence of neighbouring keypresses (see the argument above), this mismatch would at least be the same across "offline differentiation" and "online differentiation", so they would be more comparable.

A further complication in interpreting the results regarding "contextualization" stems from the visual feedback that participants received during the task. Each keypress generated an asterisk shown above the string on the screen, irrespective of whether the keypress was correct or incorrect. As a result, incorrect (e.g., additional, or missing) keypresses could shift the phase of the visual feedback string (of asterisks) relative to the ordinal position of the current movement in the sequence (e.g., the fifth movement in the sequence could coincide with the presentation of any asterisk in the string, from the first to the fifth). Given that more incorrect keypresses are expected at the start of the experiment, compared to later stages, the consistency in visual feedback position, relative to the ordinal position of the movement in the sequence, increased across the experiment. A better differentiation between the first and the fifth movement with learning could, therefore, simply reflect better decoding of the more consistent visual feedback, based either on the feedback-induced brain response, or feedback-induced eye movements (the study did not include eye tracking). It is not clear why the authors introduced this complicated visual feedback in their task, besides consistency with their previous studies.

The authors report a significant correlation between "offline differentiation" and cumulative micro-offline gains. However, it would be more informative to correlate trial-by-trial changes in each of the two variables. This would address the question of whether there is a trial-by-trial relation between the degree of "contextualization" and the amount of micro-offline gains - are performance changes (micro-offline gains) less pronounced across rest periods for which the change in "contextualization" is relatively low? Furthermore, is the relationship between micro-offline gains and "offline differentiation" significantly stronger than the relationship between micro-offline gains and "online differentiation"?

The authors follow the assumption that micro-offline gains reflect offline learning. However, there is no direct evidence in the literature that micro-offline gains really result from offline learning, i.e., an improvement in skill level. On the contrary, recent evidence questions this interpretation (Gupta & Rickard, npj Sci Learn 2022; Gupta & Rickard, Sci Rep 2024; Das et al., bioRxiv 2024). Instead, there is evidence that micro-offline gains are transient performance benefits that emerge when participants train with breaks, compared to participants who train without breaks, however, these benefits vanish within seconds after training if both groups of participants perform under comparable conditions (Das et al., bioRxiv 2024).

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

Mollá-Albaladejo et al. investigate the neurons downstream of GR64f and Gr66a, called G2Ns. They identify downstream neurons using trans-Tango labeling with RFP and then perform bulk RNA-seq on the RFP-sorted cells. Gene expression is up- or downregulated between the cell populations and between fed and starved states. They specifically identify Leukocinin as a neuropeptide that is upregulated in starved Gr66a cells. Leucokinin cells, identified by a GAL4 line indeed show higher expression when starved, especially in the SEZ. Furthermore, Leucokinin cells colocalize with the trans-Tango signal from downstream neurons of both GRs. This connection is confirmed with GRASP. According to EM data, Leucokinin cells in the SEZ receive a lot of input and connect to many downstream neurons. In behavior experiments performed with flies lacking Leucokinin neurons, flies show reduced responsiveness to sugar and bitter mixtures when starved. The authors suggest that Leucokinin neurons integrate bitter and sugar tastes and that their output is modified by a hunger state.

Strengths:

The authors use a multitude of tools to identify SELK neurons downstream of taste sensory neurons and as starvation-sensitive cells. This study provides an example of how combining genetic labeling, RNA-seq, and EM analysis can be combined to investigate neural circuits.

Weaknesses:

The authors do not show a functional connection between sensory neurons and SELK neurons. Additionally, data from RNA seq, anatomical studies, and EM analysis are sometimes contradictory in terms of connectivity. GRASP signal is not foolproof that cells are synaptically connected.

The authors describe a behavioral phenotype when flies are starved, however, they do not use a specific driver for the described cell type, thus they should also tone down their claims.

Generally, the authors do not provide a big advancement to the field and some of the results are contradictory with previous publications.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

A core task of the brain is processing sensory cues from the environment. The neural mechanisms of how sensory information is transmitted from peripheral sense organs to subsequent being processing in defined brain centers remain an important topic in neuroscience. The taste system hereby assesses the palatability of food by evaluating the chemical composition and nutrient content while integrating the current need for energy by assessing the satiation level of the organism. The current manuscript provides insights into the early circuits of gustatory coding using the fruit fly as a model. By combining trans-tango and FACS-based bulk RNAseq to assess the target neurons of sweet sensing (using Gr64f-Gal4) and bitter sensing (using Gr66a-Gal4) in a first set of experiments the authors investigate genes that are differentially expressed or co-expressed in normal and starved conditions. With a focus on neuropeptides and neurotransmitters, different expressions in the different conditions were assessed resulting in the identification of Leucokinin as a potentially interesting gene. The notion is further supported by RNAseq of Lk-Gal4>mCD8:GFP sorted cells and immunostainings. GRASP and BacTrace experiments further support that the two Lk-expressing cells in the SEZ should indeed be postsynaptic to both types of sensories. Using EM-based connectomics data (based on a previous publication by Engert et al.), the authors also look for downstream targets of the bitter versus sweet gustatory neurons to identify the Lk-neurons. Based on the morphology they identify candidates and further depict the potential downstream neurons in the connectome, which appears largely in agreement with GRASP experiments. Finally silencing the Lk-neurons shows an increased PER response in starved flies (when combined with bitter compounds) as well as increased feeding in a FlyPad assay.

Strengths:

Overall this is an intriguing manuscript, which provides insight into the organization of 2nd order gustatory neurons. It specifically provides strong evidence for the Lk-neurons as a target of sweet and bitter GRNs and provides evidence for their role in regulating sweet vs bitter-based behavioral responses. Particularly the integration of different techniques and datasets in an elegant fashion is a strong side of the manuscript. Moreover to put the known LK-neurons into the context of 2nd order gustatory signalling is strengthening the knowledge about this pathway.

Weaknesses:

I do not see any major weakness in the current manuscript. Novelty is to some degree lessened by the fact, that the RNAseq approach did not identify new neurons but rather put the known LK-neurons as major findings. Similarly, the final behavioral section is not very deep and to some degree corroborates the previous publication by the Keene and Nässel labs - that said, the model they propose is indeed novel (but lacks depth in analyses; e.g. there is no physiology that would support the modulation of Lk neurons by either type of GRN). The connectomic section appears a bit out of place and after reading it it's not really clear what one should make of the potential downstream neurons (particularly since the Lk-receptor expression has been previously analyzed); here it might have been interesting to address if/how Lk-neurons may signal directly via a classical neurotransmitter (an information that might be found easily in the adult brain single-cell data).

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

Summary:

To make feeding decisions, animals need to process three types of information: positive cues like sweetness, negative cues like bitterness, and internal states such as hunger or satiety. This study aims to identify where the information is integrated into the fruit fly brain. The authors applied RNA sequencing on second-order gustatory neurons responsible for sweet and bitter processing, under fed and starved conditions. The sequencing data reveal significant changes in gene expression across sweet vs. bitter pathways and fed vs. starved states. The authors focus on the neuropeptide Leucokinin (Lk), whose expression is dependent on the starvation state. They identify a pair of neurons, named SELK neurons, which express Lk and receive direct input from both sweet and bitter gustatory neurons. These SELK neurons are ideal candidates to integrate gustatory and internal state information. Behavioral experiments show that blocking these neurons in starved flies alters their tolerance to bitter substances during feeding.

Strengths:

(1) The study employs a well-designed approach, targeting specific neuronal populations, which is more efficient and precise compared to traditional large-scale genetic screening methods.

(2) The RNAseq results provide valuable data that can be utilized in future studies to explore other molecules beyond Lk.

(3) The identification of SELK neurons offers a promising avenue for future research into how these neurons integrate conflicting gustatory signals and internal state information.

Weaknesses:

(1) Unfortunately, due to technical challenges, the authors were unable to directly image the functional activity of SELK neurons.

(2) In the behavioral experiments, tetanus toxin was used to block SELK neurons. Since these neurons may release multiple neurotransmitters or neuropeptides, the results do not specifically demonstrate that Leucokinin (Lk) is the critical factor, as suggested in Figure 8. To address this, I recommend using RNAi to inhibit Lk expression in SELK neurons and comparing the outcomes to wild-type controls via the PER assay.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

This paper describes "Ais", a new software tool for machine-learning based segmentation and particle picking of electron tomograms. The software can visualise tomograms as slices and allows manual annotation for the training of a provided set of various types of neural networks. New networks can be added, provided they adhere to a python file with an (undescribed) format. Once networks have been trained on manually annotated tomograms, they can be used to segment new tomograms within the same software. The authors also set up an online repository to which users can upload their models, so they might be re-used by others with similar needs. By logically combining the results from different types of segmentations, they further improve the detection of distinct features. The authors demonstrate the usefulness of their software on various data sets. Thus, the software appears to be a valuable tool for the cryo-ET community that will lower the boundaries of using a variety of machine-learning methods to help interpret tomograms.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

Last et al. present Ais, a new deep learning based software package for segmentation of cryo electron tomography data sets. The distinguishing factor of this package is its orientation to the joint use of different models, rather than the implementation of a given approach: Notably, the software is supported by an online repository of segmentation models, open to contributions from the community.

The usefulness of handling different models in one single environment is showcased with a comparative study on how different models perform on a given data set; then with an explanation on how the results of several models can be manually merged by the interactive tools inside Ais.

The manuscripts presents two applications of Ais on real data sets; one oriented to showcase its particle picking capacities on a study previously completed by the authors; a second one refers to a complex segmentation problem on two different data sets (representing different geometries as bacterial cilia and mitochondria in a mouse neuron), both from public databases.

The software described in the paper is compactly documented in its website, additionally providing links to some youtube videos (less than an hour it toral) where the authors videocapture and comment major workflows.

In short, the manuscript describes a valuable resource for the community of tomography practitioners.

Strengths:

Public repository of segmentation models; easiness of working with several models and comparing/merging the results.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

Summary:

In this manuscript, Last and colleagues describe Ais, an open-source software package for the semi-automated segmentation of cryo-electron tomography (cryo-ET) maps. Specifically, Ais provides a graphical user interface (GUI) for the manual segmentation and annotation of specific features of interest. These manual annotations are then used as input ground-truth data for training a convolutional neural network (CNN) model, which can then be used for automatic segmentation. Ais provides the option of several CNNs so that users can compare their performance on their structures of interest in order to determine the CNN that best suits their needs. Additionally, pretrained models can be uploaded and shared to an online database.

Algorithms are also provided to characterize "model interactions" which allows users to define heuristic rules on how the different segmentations interact. For instance, a membrane adjacent protein can have rules where it must colocalize a certain distance away from a membrane segmentation. Such rules can help reduce false positives; as in the case above, false negatives predicted away from membranes are eliminated.

The authors then show how Ais can be used for particle picking and subsequent subtomogram averaging and for segmentation of cellular tomograms for visual analysis. For subtomogram averaging, they used a previously published dataset and compared the averages of their automated picking with the published manual picking. Analysis of cellular tomogram segmentations were primarily visual.

Strengths:

CNN-based segmentation of cryo-ET data is a rapidly developing area of research, as it promises substantially faster results than manual segmentation as well as the possibility for higher accuracy. However, this field is still very much in the development and the overall performance of these approaches, even across different algorithms, still leaves much to be desired. In this context, I think Ais is an interesting packages, as it aims to provide both new and experienced users streamlined approaches for manual annotation, access to a number of CNNs, and methods to refine the outputs of CNN models against each other. I think this can be quite useful for users, particularly as these methods develop.

Reviewer #4 (Public review):

Summary:

This study describes an understudied migration pattern of dynamic non-breeding range using data from an Arctic raptor. Using data from GPS tags, the study describes the known pattern of fast migration during autumn and spring, and an undescribed pattern of slow migration, at much slower pace, throughout the over-wintering season.

Strengths:

The study presents a comprehensive analysis of the annual cycle of an interesting and undescribed migration system. The conceptual advancement is original and the data is rich and persuading. The Discussion part of the manuscript is well written.

Weaknesses:

Other sections of the manuscript need some more polish, both in terms of the terminology, the language and the logic of the presentation of the subject. The title is not good. During most of the text, the authors do not properly follow a certain terminology regarding migration, over-wintering, non-breeding range, and this is very confusing. So, consistency of the text is warranted. A bigger issue is the selection of latitudes (or the actual reason for movement) during the over-wintering period. The study claims that this relates to snow cover but fails to properly demonstrate it. It is likely that the birds move because of changes in snow cover rather than because of the level of snow cover. This is a testable prediction. A possible explanation is that there is a cost for moving further south and thus the birds are reluctant of moving unless they are forced to do it by the high snow cover. Another, similar and testable prediction is that the birds aim at selecting latitudes where snow cover is partial and move slowly during the winter to areas that are only partially covered by the snow with the progression of the winter. A modified, non-linear, snow cover analysis using GAMM could uncover such patterns.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

In an era of increasing antibiotic resistance, there is a pressing need for the development of novel sustainable therapies to tackle problematic pathogens. In this study, the authors hypothesize that pyoverdines - metal-chelating compounds produced by fluorescent pseudomonads - can act as antibacterials by locking away iron, thereby arresting pathogen growth. Using biochemical, growth and virulence assays on 12 opportunistic pathogens strains, the authors demonstrate that pyoverdines induce iron starvation, but this affect was highly context dependent. This same effect has been demonstrated for plant pathogens, but not for human opportunistic pathogens exposed to natural siderophores. Only those pathogens lacking (1) a matching receptor to take up pyoverdine-bound iron and/or (2) the ability to produce strong iron chelators themselves experienced strong growth arrest. This would suggest that pyoverdines might not be effective against all pathogens, thereby potentially limiting the utility of pyoverdines as global antibacterials.

Strengths:

The work addresses an important and timely question - can pyoverdines be used as an alternative strategy to deal with opportunistic pathogens? In general, the work is well conducted with rigorous biochemical, growth and virulence assays. In line, the work is clearly written, and the findings are supported by high-quality figures.

Weaknesses:

I do not think there are any 'weaknesses' as such. The authors have taken all suggestions on board and this has greatly improved the quality and robustness of the work

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

In this work, Vollenweider et al. examine the effectiveness of using natural products, specifically molecules that chelate iron, to treat infectious agents. Through the purification of 320 environmental isolates, 25 potential candidates were identified based on inhibition assays and further screened. The structural information and chemical composition of these candidates were determined. Using a series of well-described and standard assays, the authors show that three compounds have some effect in reducing mortality in a simple in vivo model.

The paper is well-structured and thorough; targeting virulence factors in this manner is an excellent approach. However, my enthusiasm is dampened by the mediocre effects of the compounds. A reduction in the hazard ratio is reported, indicating that the compounds are having an effect, but without comparison to other iron-chelating molecules or current standards of care, it is difficult to contextualize the significance of these reductions.

I am less convinced by a claim from the abstract: "Furthermore, experimental evolution combined with whole-genome sequencing revealed reduced potentials for resistance evolution compared to an antibiotic." Perhaps this is a semantic issue, but what is meant by "potential for resistance evolution"? My understanding is that this refers to mutations or sets of mutations that would be favored under selective pressure, allowing the bacteria to more easily climb a fitness landscape peak. However, the authors present a different result: the bacteria did not grow better after selection in different conditions (except for the positive control using ciprofloxacin). They correctly suggest that there may be individuals in the populations that have developed resistance and recommend isolating 8 from each treatment for testing. However, they then use the mean value of these individuals to conclude that there is no difference from the ancestor. This seems incorrect-surely the point of using individuals is not to compare them as a group but to determine if any one has a growth rate outside the expected distribution. In short, Figure S10 does not seem to support the findings reported in line 417.

A final consideration for the evolution experiment is the choice of a bactericidal antibiotic. It might have been more appropriate to use a bacteriostatic drug as a control. However, I feel that additional work on this topic is beyond the scope of the current paper.

Similarly, it would be interesting to consider how evolving the isolates in iron-limited media would affect resistance levels. Currently, I think the difference in growth rate is attributed to the iron-scavenging nature of the siderophores. In future work, this could be tested, and an evolution experiment in which iron availability is measured could provide valuable insights. To clarify, I believe this work is not necessary for the current paper, but it would be an interesting avenue for future research.

Joint Public Review:

Summary:

This study presents a strategy to efficiently isolate PcrV-specific BCRs from human donors with cystic fibrosis who have/had Pseudomonas aeruginosa (PA) infection. Isolation of mAbs that provide protection against PA may be a key to developing a new strategy to treat PA infection as the PA has intrinsic and acquired resistance to most antibiotic drug classes. Hale et al. developed fluorescently labeled antigen-hook and isolated mAbs with anti-PA activity. Overall, the authors' conclusion is supported by solid data analysis presented in the paper. Four of five recombinantly expressed PcrV-specific mAbs exhibited anti-PA activity in a murine pneumonia challenge model as potent as the V2L2MD mAb (equivalent to gremubamab). However, therapeutic potency for these isolated mAbs is uncertain as the gremubamab has failed in Phase 2 trials. Clarification of this point would greatly benefit this paper.

Strengths:

(1) High efficiency of isolating antigen-specific BCRs using an antigenic hook.

(2) The authors' conclusion is supported by data.

Weaknesses:

Although the authors state that the goal of this study was to generate novel protective mAbs for therapeutic use (P12; Para. 2), it is unclear whether PcrV-specific mAbs isolated in this study have therapeutic potential better than the gremubamab, which has failed in Phase 2 trials. Four of five PcrV-specific mAbs isolated in this study reduced bacterial burdens in mice as potent as, but not superior to, gremubamab-equivalent mAb. Clarification of this concern by revising the text or providing experimental results that show better potential than gremubamab would greatly benefit this paper.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

In their paper, Kang et al. investigate rigidity sensing in amoeboid cells, showing that, despite their lack of proper focal adhesions, amoeboid migration of single cells is impacted by substrate rigidity. In fact, many different amoeboid cell types can durotax, meaning that they preferentially move towards the stiffer side of a rigidity gradient.

The authors observed that NMIIA is required for durotaxis and, buiding on this observation, they generated a model to explain how durotaxis could be achieved in the absence of strong adhesions. According to the model, substrate stiffness alters the diffusion rate of NMAII, with softer substrates allowing for faster diffusion. This allows for NMAII accumulation at the back, which, in turn, results in durotaxis.

The evidence provided for durotaxis of non adherent (or low-adhering) cells is strong. I am particularly impressed by the fact that amoeboid cells can durotax even when not confined. I wish to congratulate the authors for the excellent work, which will fuel discussion in the field of cell adhesion and migration.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

The authors developed an imaging-based device, that provides both spatial confinement and stiffness gradient, to investigate if and how amoeboid cells, including T cells, neutrophils and Dictyostelium can durotax. Furthermore, the authors showed that the mechanism for the directional migration of T cells and neutrophils depends on non-muscle myosin IIA (NMIIA) polarized towards the soft-matrix-side. Finally, they developed a mathematical model of an active gel that captures the behavior of the cells described in vitro.

Strengths:

The topic is intriguing as durotaxis is essentially thought to be a direct consequence of mechanosensing at focal adhesions. To the best of my knowledge, this is the first report on amoeboid cells that are not dependent on FAs to exert durotaxis. The authors developed an imaging-based durotaxis device that provides both spatial confinement and stiffness gradient and they also utilized several techniques such as quantitative fluorescent speckle microscopy and expansion microscopy. The results of this study have well-designed control experiments and are therefore convincing.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

In their paper, Kang et al. investigate rigidity sensing in amoeboid cells, showing that, despite their lack of proper focal adhesions, amoeboid migration of single cells is impacted by substrate rigidity. In fact, many different amoeboid cell types can durotax, meaning that they preferentially move towards the stiffer side of a rigidity gradient.

The authors observed that NMIIA is required for durotaxis and, buiding on this observation, they generated a model to explain how durotaxis could be achieved in the absence of strong adhesions. According to the model, substrate stiffness alters the diffusion rate of NMAII, with softer substrates allowing for faster diffusion. This allows for NMAII accumulation at the back, which, in turn, results in durotaxis.

The evidence provided for durotaxis of non adherent (or low-adhering) cells is strong. I am particularly impressed by the fact that amoeboid cells can durotax even when not confined. I wish to congratulate the authors for the excellent work, which will fuel discussion in the field of cell adhesion and migration.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

The authors developed an imaging-based device, that provides both spatial confinement and stiffness gradient, to investigate if and how amoeboid cells, including T cells, neutrophils and Dictyostelium can durotax. Furthermore, the authors showed that the mechanism for the directional migration of T cells and neutrophils depends on non-muscle myosin IIA (NMIIA) polarized towards the soft-matrix-side. Finally, they developed a mathematical model of an active gel that captures the behavior of the cells described in vitro.

Strengths:

The topic is intriguing as durotaxis is essentially thought to be a direct consequence of mechanosensing at focal adhesions. To the best of my knowledge, this is the first report on amoeboid cells that are not dependent on FAs to exert durotaxis. The authors developed an imaging-based durotaxis device that provides both spatial confinement and stiffness gradient and they also utilized several techniques such as quantitative fluorescent speckle microscopy and expansion microscopy. The results of this study have well-designed control experiments and are therefore convincing.

Joint Public review:

Summary

This manuscript offers significant insights into the impact of maternal obesity on oocyte methylation and its transgenerational effects. Chao and colleagues demonstrated the potential mechanisms behind the DNA methylation changes. The major observations of the work include transgenerational DNA methylation changes in offspring of maternal obesity and metabolites such as methionine and melatonin which correlated with the epigenetic changes. Exogenous melatonin treatment could reverse the effects of obesity. The authors further hypothesized that the linkage may be mediated by the cAMP/PKA/CREB pathway to regulate the expression of DNMTs. This work has done lots of breeding and DNA Methylation analysis across multiple generations, which provides solid data for future research. The results of this work may benefit from deeper data analysis to make more causal analyses and conclusions more concrete.

Strengths

The study employs comprehensive methodologies, including transgenerational breeding experiments, whole genome bisulfite sequencing, and metabolomics analysis, and provides the convincing data.

Weaknesses

The results of this work are correlational, which may require further analysis to establish more concrete conclusions on causal relationships.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

In this work by Wang et al., the authors use single-molecule super-resolution microscopy together with biochemical assays to quantify the organization of Nipah virus fusion protein F (NiV-F) on cell and viral membranes. They find that these proteins form nanoscale clusters which favors membrane fusion activation, and that the physical parameters of these clusters are unaffected by protein expression level and endosomal cleavage. Furthermore, they find that the cluster organization is affected by mutations in the trimer interface on the NiV-F ectodomain and the putative oligomerization motif on the transmembrane domain, and that the clusters are stabilized by interactions among NiV-F, the AP2-complex, and the clathrin coat assembly. This work improves our understanding of the NiV fusion machinery, which may also have implications for our understanding of the function of other viruses.

Strengths:

The conclusions of this paper are well-supported by the presented data. This study sheds light on the activation mechanisms underlying the NiV fusion machinery.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

In this manuscript, Wang and co-workets employ single molecule light microscopy (SMLM) to detect Nipah virus Fusion protein (NiV-F) in the surface of cells. They corroborate that these glycoproteins form microclusters (previously seen and characterized together with the NiV-G and Nipah Matrix protein by Liu and co-workers (2018) also with super-resolution light microscopy). Also seen by Liu and coworkers the authors show that the level of expression of NiV-F does not alter the identity of these microclusters nor endosomal cleavage. Moreover, mutations and the transmembrane domain or the hexamer-of-trimer interface seem to have a mild effect on the size of the clusters that the authors quantified. Importantly, it has also been shown that these particles tend to cluster in Nipah VLPs.

Strengths:

The authors have tried to perform SMLM in single VLPs and have shown partially the importance of NiV-F clustering.

Comments on the revised version:

I am happy with the answers the authors have provided to my questions

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

Summary:

The manuscript by Wang and colleagues describes single molecule localization microscopy to quantify the distribution and organization of Nipah virus F expressed on cells and on virus-like particles. Notably the crystal structure of F indicated hexameric assemblies of F trimers. The authors propose that F clustering favors membrane fusion.

Strengths:

The manuscript provides solid data on imaging of F clustering with the main findings of:<br /> - F clusters are independent of expression levels<br /> - Proteolytic cleavage does not affect F clustering<br /> - Mutations that have been reported to affect the hexamer interface reduce clustering on cells and its distribution on VLPs<br /> - F nanoclusters are stabilized by AP

Comments on the revised version:

The authors addressed most of my previous concerns.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

The authors make a new contribution with careful computational validation/exploration of their method on synthetic and real-world datasets. Overall, I find their results significant and their presentation compelling.

Strengths:

The authors provide extensive computational validation of their approach to synthetic and real-world datasets of increasing complexity.

Weaknesses:

The authors should provide a comparison of their approach to other state-of-the-art neural network-based methods. Without this, it is difficult to tell which aspects of their approach (novel coupling metric, or network architecture) are most important for their results.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

This paper introduces a new methodology for probing time-varying causal interactions in complex dynamical systems using a novel machine-learning architecture of Temporal Autoencoders for Causal Inference (TACI) combined with a novel metric (CSGI) for assessing causal interactions using surrogate data. This is a timely contribution in the field of causal inference from temporal data which has been largely restricted to stationary time series so far. However, the benchmarking of the proposed methods could be improved.

Strength:

The method's capacity to uncover piecewise time-varying non-linear dynamic systems is demonstrated on synthetic datasets as well as on two real-world applications on climate and brain activity data. A particular advantage of the approach is to train a single model capturing the dynamics of the whole time series, thereby allowing for time-varying interactions to be found without retraining over different time periods.

Weaknesses:

(1) It is not clear why the new metric Comparative Surrogate Granger Index CSGI (Eq.6) should be better than the Extended Granger Causality Index EGCI (Eq.5), which can also be used to compare the information about y(t) contained in the actual data x(t) versus in a randomized surrogate x^s(t), as implemented in the proposed metric (Eq.6).

(2) The benchmarking of the new approach TACI against earlier metrics (ie Surrogate Linear Granger, Convergent Cross Mapping, and Transfer Entropy) should be revised:

(a) The details of the computation should be provided to clarify how the different metrics are estimated notably between multidimensional variables [for instance to estimate Ty->x for x=(x_1,x_2,x_3) and y=(y_1,y_2,y_3)].

(b) Reliable implementations of the different metrics should be used, as some of the reported results do not seem right. In particular, the unidirectional examples, Eq.9 (Figure 2) and Eq.12 (Figure 5), are expected to lead to vanishing transfer entropies from Y to X, ie Ty->x =0, for all values of the coupling parameter below the synchronization threshold. This can be verified by computing transfer entropies as conditional mutual information using MIIC R package, i.e. Ty->x = I(x(t);y(t-1)|x(t-1)).

(c) Besides, some reported benchmarks focus on peculiar non-linear systems displaying somewhat "pathological" behaviors. For instance, the two Hénon maps with unidirectional coupling Eq.12 (Figure 5) lead to an equality between the two variables, i.e. y(t)=x(t) for all t, above the synchronization threshold C>0.7. This leads mathematically to zero transfer entropy upon synchronization, as I(x(t);y(<br /> d) By contrast, Eq.9 (Fig.2) leads to strongly coupled, yet non-identical variables above the synchronization threshold. This strong coupling can be shown to yield non-vanishing transfer entropies in both directions, as observed in Figure 2c, and does not correspond to "incorrect prediction of non-existent interactions", as stated in the "Summary of Results on Artificial Test Systems". Clearly synchronized variables do interact and their bidirectional transfer entropies are actually consistent with a non-causal (or bidirectional) relationship. Only a vanishing transfer entropy in one direction implies a causal relation (in the opposite direction). Likewise, vanishing transfer entropies in both directions imply either independent variables or a spurious dependency between them due to an unobserved common cause L, i.e. X<--(L)-->Y. This is usually represented with a bidirected edge (X<-->Y), which is different from a bidirectional relation corresponding to two opposite unidirectional edges (ie X-->Y and X<--Y). It is therefore surprising that TACI metric vanishes in both directions upon synchronization in this case (Eq.9, Figure 2), as one would expect to learn variable y(t) more reliably using the actual data x(<br /> e) In order to assess TACI performance on non-stationary time series, it might be more informative to benchmark it on datasets displaying intermittency rather than synchrony. In particular, the change of causal directions over time, presented as one of the motivations for the new approach, should be more thoroughly benchmarked in the paper. For instance, it would be nice to demonstrate the tracking of the spontaneous reversal of causal relation in a simple 'toggle switch' regulatory network between two mutually repressing genes + expression noise. This is something that causal inference methods assuming stationarity cannot do.

(3) Concerning the real-world applications, the analysis of the electrocorticography (ECoG) data does not seem to be in strong disagreement with the general trends of the original more detailed study by Tajima et al 2015. Could the authors better delineate what are the common versus conflicting findings between the two approaches? The main difference appears to be the near loss of interaction in the anesthetized state, which might be linked to TACI's tendency to report no interaction between synchronized variables as discussed in d) above. Does the anesthetized state correspond to a global synchrony of the brain regions? This could be easily validated by a more direct analysis of synchrony.

Reviewer #2 (Public Review):

The manuscript by Menon et al describes a set of simulations of alpha-Synuclein (aSYN) and analyses of these and previous simulations in the presence of a small molecule.

Comments on latest version:

I have read the authors' response to my comments as well as to the other reviewers. Summarizing briefly, I don't think they provide substantial answer to the questions/comments by me or reviewer 3, and generally do not quantify the results/effects data. I still remain unconvinced about the analyses and conclusions. Rather than rewriting another set of comments, I think it will be more useful for all (authors and readers) simply to be able to see the entire set of reviews and responses together with the paper.

Reviewer #3 (Public Review):

In this manuscript Menon, Adhikari, and Mondal analyze explicit solvent molecular dynamics (MD) computer simulations of the intrinsically disordered protein (IDP) alpha-synuclein in the presence and absence of a small molecule ligand, Fasudil, previously demonstrated to bind alpha-synuclein by NMR spectroscopy without inducing folding into more ordered structures. In order to provide insight into the binding mechanism of Fasudil the authors analyze an unbiased 1500us MD simulation of alpha-synuclein in the presence of Fasudil previously reported by Robustelli et.al. (Journal of the American Chemical Society, 144(6), pp.2501-2510). The authors compare this simulation to a very different set of apo simulations: 23 separate1-4us simulations of alpha-synuclein seeded from different apo conformations taken from another previously reported by Robustelli et. al. (PNAS, 115 (21), E4758-E4766), for a total of ~62us.

To analyze the conformational space of alpha-synuclein - the authors employ a variational auto-encoder (VAE) to reduce the dimensionality of Ca-Ca pairwise distances to 2 dimensions, and use the latent space projection of the VAE to build Markov state Models. The authors utilize k-means clustering to cluster the sampled states of alpha-synuclein in each condition into 180 microstates on the VAE latent space. They then coarse grain these 180 microstates into a 3-macrostate model for apo alpha-synuclein and a 6-macrostate model for alpha-synuclein in the presence of fasudil using the PCCA+ course graining method. Few details are provided to explain the hyperparameters used for PCCA+ coarse graining and the rationale for selecting the final number of macrostates.

The authors analyze the properties of each of the alpha-synuclein macrostates from their final MSMs - examining intramolecular contacts, secondary structure propensities, and in the case of alpha-synuclein:Fasudil holo simulations - the contact probabilities between Fasudil and alpha-synuclein residues.

The authors utilize an additional variational autoencoder (a denoising convolutional VAE) to compare denoised contact maps of each macrostate, and project onto an additional latent space. The authors conclude that their apo and holo simulations are sampling distinct regions of the conformational space of alpha-synuclein projected on the denoising convolutional VAE latent space.

Finally, the authors calculate water entropy and protein conformational entropy for each microstate. To facilitate water entropy calculations - the author's take a single structure from each macrostate - and ran a 20ps simulation at a finer timestep (4 femtoseconds) using a previously published method (DoSPT), which computes thermodynamic properties of water from MD simulations using autocorrelation functions of water velocities. The authors report that water entropy calculated from these individual 20ps simulations is very similar.

For each macrostate the authors compute protein conformational entropy using a previously published Maximum Information Spanning tree approach based on torsion angle distributions - and observe that the estimated protein conformational entropy is substantially more negative for the macrostates of the holo ensemble.

The authors calculate mean first passage times from their Markov state models and report a strong correlation between the protein conformational entropy of each state and the mean first passage time from each state to the highest populated state.

As the authors observe the conformational entropy estimated from macrostates of the holo alpha-synuclein:Fasudil is greater than those estimated from macrostates of the apo holo alpha-synuclein macrostates - they suggest that the driving force of Fasudil binding is an increase in the conformational entropy of alpha-synuclein. No consideration/quantification of the enthalpy of alpha-synuclein Fasudil binding is presented.

Strengths:

The author's utilize MD simulations run with an appropriate force field for IDPs (a99SB-disp and a99SB-disp water (Robustelli et. al, PNAS, 115 (21), E4758-E4766) - which has previously been used to perform MD simulations of alpha-synuclein that have been validated with extensive NMR data.

The contact probability between Fasudil and each alpha-synuclein residue observed in the previously performed 1500us MD simulation of alpha-synuclein in the presence of Fasudil (Robustelli et. al., Journal of the American Chemical Society, 144(6), pp.2501-2510) was previously found to be in good agreement with experimental NMR chemical shift perturbations upon Fasudil binding - suggesting that this simulation is a reasonable choice for understanding IDP:small molecule interactions.

Comments on the latest version:

While the authors have provided additional information in the updated manuscript, none of the additional analyses address the fundamental flaws of the manuscript.

The additional analyses do not convincingly demonstrate that these two extremely different simulation datasets (1500 microsecond unbiased MD for a-synuclein + fasudil, 23 separate 1-4 microsecond simulations of apo a-synuclein) are directly comparable for the purposes of building MSMs.

The additional analyses do not demonstrate that there are sufficient conformational transitions among kinetically metastable states observed in 23 separate 1-4 microsecond simulations of apo a-synuclein to build a valid MSM, or that the latent space of the VAE is kinetically meaningful.

If one is interested in modeling the kinetics and thermodynamics of transitions between a set of conformational states, and they run a small number of MD simulations that are too short to see conformational transitions between conformational states - any kinetics and thermodynamics modeled by an MSM will be inherently meaningless. This is likely to be the case with the apo a-synuclein dataset analyzed in this investigation.

Simulations of 1-4 microseconds are almost certainly far too short to see a meaningful sampling of conformational transitions of a highly entangled 140-residue IDP beyond a very local relaxation of the starting structures, and the authors provide no analyses to suggest otherwise.

Without convincingly demonstrating reasonable statistics of conformational changes from the very small apo simulation dataset analyzed here, it seems highly likely the apparent validity of the apo MSM results from learning a VAE latent space that groups structurally and kinetically distinct conformations into similar states, creating the spurious appearance of transitions between states. As such, the kinetics and thermodynamics of the resulting MSM are likely to be relatively meaningless, and comparisons with an MSM for a-synuclein in the presence of fasudil are likely to be meaningless.

In its present form, this study provides an example of how the use of black-box machine learning methods to analyze molecular simulations can lead to obtaining misleading results (such as the appearance of a valid MSM) - when more basic analyses are omitted.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

UGGTs are involved in the prevention of premature degradation for misfolded glycoproteins, by utilizing UGGT1-KO cells and a number of different ERAD substrates. They proposed a concept by which the fate of glycoproteins can be determined by a tug-of-war between UGGTs and EDEMs.

Strengths:

The authors provided a wealth of data to indicate that UGGT1 competes with EDEMs, which promotes the glycoprotein degradation.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

In this study, Ninagawa et al., sheds light on UGGT's role in ER quality control of glycoproteins. By utilizing UGGT1/UGGT2 DKO , they demonstrate that several model misfolded glycoproteins undergo early degradation. One such substrate is ATF6alpha where its premature degradation hampers the cell's ability to mount an ER stress response.

This study convincingly demonstrates that many unstable misfolded glycoproteins undergo accelerated degradation without UGGTs. Also, this study provides evidence of a "tug of war" model involving UGGTs (pulling glycoproteins to being refolded) and EDEMs (pulling glycoproteins to ERAD).

The study explores the physiological role of UGGT, particularly examining the impact of ATF6α in UGGT knockout cells' stress response. The authors further investigate the physiological consequences of accelerated ATF6α degradation, convincingly demonstrating that cells are sensitive to ER stress in the absence of UGGTs and unable to mount an adequate ER stress response.

These findings offer significant new insights into the ERAD field, highlighting UGGT1 as a crucial component in maintaining ER protein homeostasis. This represents a major advancement in our understanding of the field.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

This valuable manuscript demonstrates the long-held prediction that the glycosyltransferase UGGT slows degradation of endoplasmic reticulum (ER)-associated degradation substrates through a mechanism involving re-glucosylation of asparagine-linked glycans following release from the calnexin/calreticulin lectins. The evidence supporting this conclusion is solid using genetically-deficient cell models and well established biochemical methods to monitor the degradation of trafficking-incompetent ER-associated degradation substrates, although this could be improved by better defining of the importance of UGGT in the secretion of trafficking competent substrates. This work will be of specific interest to those interested in mechanistic aspects of ER protein quality control and protein secretion.

The authors have largely addressed my comments from the previous round of review. The only remaining comment is about defining the impact of UGGT1 in the regulation of secretion-competent proteins, which the authors indicate they will continue to pursue in subsequent work, which is fine, but remains a minor limitation of the study.

As I mentioned in my previous review, I think that this work is interesting and addresses an important gap in experimental evidence supporting a previously asserted dogma in the field. I do think that the authors would be better suited for highlighting the limitations of the study, as discussed above. Ultimately, though, this is an important addition to the literature.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

This is an interesting study on the role of FGF signaling in the induction of primitive streak-like cells (PS-LC) in human 2D-gastruloids. The authors use a previously characterized standard culture that generates a ring of PS-LCs (TBXT+) and correlate this with pERK staining. A requirement for FGF signaling in TBXT induction is demonstrated via pharmacological inhibition of MEK and FGFR activity. A second set of culture conditions (with no exogenous FGFs) suggests that endogenous FGFs are required for pERK and TBXT induction. The authors then characterize, via scRNA-seq, various components of the FGF pathway (genes for ligands, receptors, ERK regulators, and HSPG regulation). They go on to characterize the pFGFR1, receptor isoforms, and polarized localization of this receptor. Finally, they perform FGF4 inhibition and use a cell line with a limited FGF17 inactivation (heterozygous null) and show that loss of these FGFs reduces PS-LC and derivative cell types.

Strengths:

(1) As the authors point out, the role of FGF signaling in gastrulation is less well understood than other signaling pathways. Hence this is a valuable contribution to that field.

(2) The FGF4 and FGF17 loss-of-function experiments in Figure 5 are very intriguing. This is especially so given the intriguing observation that these FGFs appear to be dominating in this model of human gastrulation, in contrast to what FGFs dominate in mice, chicks, and frogs.

(3) In general this paper is valuable as a further development of the Human gastruloid system and the role of FGF signaling in the induction of PS-CLs. The wide net that the authors cast in characterizing the FGF ligand gene, receptor isoforms, and downstream components provides a foundation for future work. As the authors write near the beginning of the Discussion "Many questions remain."

Weaknesses:

(1) FGFs are cell survival factors in various aspects of development. The authors fail to address cell death due to loss of FGF signaling in their experiments. For example, in Figure 1E (which requires statistical analysis) and 1G (the bottom FGFRi row), there appears to be a significant amount of cell loss. Is this due to cell death? The authors should address the question of whether the role of FGF/ERK signaling is to keep the cells alive.

(2) Regarding the sparse cells in 1G, is there a reduction in cell number only with FGFRi and not MEKi? Is this reproducible? Gattiglio et al (Development, 2023, PMID: 37530863) present data supporting a "community effect" in the FGF-induced mesoderm differentiation of mouse embryonic stem cells. Could a community effect be at play in this human system (especially given the images in the bottom row of 1G)? If the authors don't address this experimentally they should at least address the ideas in Gattoglio et al.

(3) Do the FGF4 and FGF17 LOF experiments in Figure 5 affect cell numbers like FGFRi in Figure 1? Why examine PS-LC induction only in FGF17 heterozygous cells and not homozygous FGF17 nulls?

(4) The idea that FGF8 plays a dominant role during gastrulation of other species but not humans is so intriguing it warrants deeper testing. The authors dismiss FGF8 because its mRNA "...levels always remained low." (line 363) as well as the data published in Zhai et al (PMID: 36517595) and Tyser et al (PMID: 34789876). But there are cases in mouse development where a gene was expressed at levels so low, that it might be dismissed, and yet LOF experiments revealed it played a role or even was required in a developmental process. The authors should consider FGF8 inhibition or inactivation to explore its potential role, despite its low levels of expression.

(5) Redundancy is a common feature in FGF genetics. What is the effect of inhibiting FGF4 in FGF17 LOF cells?

(6) I suggest stating that the authors take more caution in describing FGF gradients. For example, in one Results heading they write "Endogenous FGF4 and FGF17 gradients underly the ERK activity pattern.", implying an FGF protein gradient. However, they only present data for FGF mRNA , not protein. This issue would be clarified if they used proper nomenclature for gene, mRNA (italics), and protein (no italics) throughout the paper.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

The role of FGFs in embryonic development and stem cell differentiation has remained unclear due to its complexity. In this study, the authors utilized a 2D human stem cell-based gastrulation model to investigate the functions of FGFs. They discovered that FGF-dependent ERK activity is closely linked to the emergence of primitive streak cells. Importantly, this 2D model effectively illustrates the spatial distribution of key signaling effectors and receptors by correlating these markers with cell fate markers, such as T and ISL1. Through inhibition and loss-of-function studies, they further corroborated the needs of FGF ligands. Their data shows that FGFR1 is the primary receptor, and FGF2/4/17 are the key ligands for primitive streak development, which aligns with observations in primate embryos. Additional experiments revealed that the reduction of FGF4 and FGF17 decreases ERK activity.

Strengths:

This study provides comprehensive data and improves our understanding of the role of FGF signaling in primate primitive streak formation. The authors provide new insights related to the spatial localization of the key components of FGF signaling and attempt to reveal the temporal dynamics of the signal propagation and cell fate decision, which has been challenging.

Weaknesses:

Given the solid data, the work only partially clarifies the complex picture of FGF signaling, so details remain somewhat elusive. The findings lack a strong punchline, which may limit their broader impact.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

Jo and colleagues set out to investigate the origins and functions of localized FGF/ERK signaling for the differentiation and spatial patterning of primitive streak fates of human embryonic stem cells in a well-established micropattern system. They demonstrate that endogenous FGF signaling is required for ERK activation in a ring-domain in the micropatterns, and that this localized signaling is directly required for differentiation and spatial patterning of specific cell types. Through high-resolution microscopy and transwell assays, they show that cells receive FGF signals through basally localized receptors. Finally, the authors find that there is a requirement for exogenous FGF2 to initiate primitive streak-like differentiation, but endogenous FGFs, especially FGF4 and FGF17, fully take over at later stages.

Even though some of the authors' findings - such as the localized expression of FGF ligands during gastrulation and the importance of FGF/ERK signaling for cell differentiation in the primitive streak - have been reported in model organisms before, this is one of the first studies to investigate the role of FGF signaling during primitive streak-like differentiation of human cells. In doing so, the paper reports a number of interesting and valuable observations, namely the basal localization of FGF receptors which mirrors that of BMP and Nodal receptors, as well as the existence of a positive feedback loop centered on FGF signaling that drives primitive-streak differentiation. The authors also perform a comparison of the role of different FGFs across species and try to assign specific functions to individual FGFs. In the absence of clean genetic loss-of-function cell lines, this part of the work remains less strong.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

Walton et al. set out to isolate new phages targeting the opportunistic pathogen Pseudomonas aeruginosa. Using a double ∆fliF ∆pilA mutant strain, they were able to isolate 4 new phages, CLEW-1. -3, -6, and -10, which were unable to infect the parental PAO1F Wt strain. Further experiments showed that the 4 phages were only able to infect a ∆fliF strain, indicating a role of the MS-protein in the flagellum complex. Through further mutational analysis of the flagellum apparatus, the authors were able to identify the involvement of c-di-GMP in phage infection. Depletion of c-di-GMP levels by an inducible phosphodiesterase renders the bacteria resistant to phage infection, while elevation of c-di-GMP through the Wsp system made the cells sensitive to infection by CLEW-1. Using TnSeq, the authors were able to not only reaffirm the involvement of c-di-GMP in phage infection but also able to identify the exopolysaccharide PSL as a downstream target for CLEW-1. C-di-GMP is a known regulator of PSL biosynthesis. The authors show that CLEW-1 binds directly to PSL on the cell surface and that deletion of the pslC gene resulted in complete phage resistance. The authors also provide evidence that the phage-PSL interaction happens during the biofilm mode of growth and that the addition of the CLEW-1 phage specifically resulted in a significant loss of biofilm biomass. Lastly, the authors set out to test if CLEW-1 could be used to resolve a biofilm infection using a mouse keratitis model. Unfortunately, while the authors noted a reduction in bacterial load assessed by GFP fluorescence, the keratitis did not resolve under the tested parameters.

Strengths:

The experiments carried out in this manuscript are thoughtful and rational and sufficient explanation is provided for why the authors chose each specific set of experiments. The data presented strongly supports their conclusions and they give present compelling explanations for any deviation. The authors have not only developed a new technique for screening for phages targeting P. aeruginosa, but also highlight the importance of looking for phages during the biofilm mode of growth, as opposed to the more standard techniques involving planktonic cultures.

Weaknesses:

While the paper is strong, I do feel that further discussions could have gone into the decision to focus on CLEW-1 for the majority of the paper. The paper also doesn't provide any detailed information on the genetic composition of the phages. It is unclear if the phages isolated are temperate or virulent. Many temperate phages enter the lytic cycle in response to QS signalling, and while the data as it is doesn't suggest that is the case, perhaps the paper would be strengthened by further elimination of this possibility. At the very least it might be worth mentioning in the discussion section.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

This manuscript by Walton et al. suggests that they have identified a new bacteriophage that uses the exopolysaccharide Psl from Pseudomonas aeruginosa (PA) as a receptor. As Psl is an important component in biofilms, the authors suggest that this phage (and others similarly isolated) may be able to specifically target biofilm-growing bacteria. While an interesting suggestion, the manner in which this paper is written makes it difficult to draw this conclusion. Also, some of the results do not directly follow from the data as presented and some relevant controls seem to be missing.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

Abdelmageed et al. investigate age-related changes in the subcellular localization of DNA polymerase kappa (POLK) in the brains of mice. POLK has been actively investigated for its role in translesion DNA synthesis and involvement in other DNA repair pathways in proliferating cells, very little is known about POLK in a tissue-specific context, let alone in post-mitotic cells. The authors investigated POLK subcellular distribution in the brains of young, middle-aged, and old mice via immunoblotting of fractioned tissue extracts and immunofluorescence (IF). Immunoblotting revealed a progressive decrease in the abundance of nuclear POLK, while cytoplasmic POLK levels concomitantly increased. Similar findings were present when IF was performed on brain sections. Further, IF studies of the cingulate cortex (Cg1), the motor cortex (M1, M2), and the somatosensory (S1) cortical regions all showed an age-related decline in nuclear POLK. Nuclear speckles of POLK decrease in each region, meanwhile, the number of cytoplasmic POLK granules decreases in all four regions, but granule size is increasing. The authors report similar findings for REV1, another Y-family DNA polymerase.

The authors then investigate the colocalization of POLK with other DNA damage response (DDR) proteins in either pyramidal neurons or inhibitory interneurons. At 18 months of age, DNA damage marker gH2AX demonstrated colocalization with nuclear POLK, while strong colocalization of POLK and 8-oxo-dG was present in geriatric mice. The authors find that cytoplasmic POLK granules colocalize with stress granule marker G3BP1, suggesting that the accumulated POLK ends up in the lysosome.

Brain regions were further stained to identify POLK patterns in NeuN+ neurons, GABAergic neurons, and other non-neuronal cell types present in the cortex. Microglia associated with pyramidal neurons or inhibitory interneurons were found to have a higher abundance of cytoplasmic POLK. The authors also report that POLK localization can be regulated by neuronal activity induced by Kainic acid treatment. Lastly, the authors suggest that POLK could serve as an aging clock for brain tissue, but POLK deserves further characterization and correlation to functional changes before being considered as a biomarker.

Strengths:

Investigation of TLS polymerases in specific tissues and in post-mitotic cells is largely understudied. The potential changes in sub-cellular localization of POLK and potentially other TLS polymerases open up many questions about DNA repair and damage tolerance in the brain and how it can change with age.

Weaknesses:

The work is quite novel and interesting, and the authors do suggest some potentially interesting roles for POLK in the brain, but these are in and of themselves a bit speculative. The majority of the findings of this paper draw upon findings from POLK antibody and its presumed specificity for POLK. However, this antibody has not been fully validated and needs further work. Further validation experiments using Polk-deficient or knocked-down cells to investigate antibody specificity for both immunoblotting and immunofluorescence should be performed. More mechanistic investigation is needed before POLK could be considered as a brain aging clock.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

Abdelmageed et al., demonstrate POLK expression in nervous tissue and focus mainly on neurons. Here they describe an exciting age-dependent change in POLK subcellular localization, from the nucleus in young tissue to the cytoplasm in old tissue. They argue that the cytosolic POLK is associated with stress granules. They also investigate the cell-type specific expression of POLK, and quantitate expression changes induced by cell-autonomous (activity) and cell nonautonomous (microglia) factors.

I think it is an interesting report but requires a few more experiments to support their findings in the latter half of the paper. Additionally, a more mechanistic understanding of the pathways regulating POLK dynamics between the nucleus and cytosol, what is POLK doing in the cytosol, and what is it interacting with; would greatly increase the impact of this report. However, additional mechanistic experiments are mostly not needed to support much of the currently presented results, again, it would simply increase the impact.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

Summary:

In this study, the authors show that DNA polymerase kappa POLK relocalizes in the cytoplasm as granules with age in mice. The reduction of nuclear POLK in old brains is congruent with an increase in DNA damage markers. The cytoplasmic granules colocalize with stress granules and endo-lysosome. The study proposes that protein localization of POLK could be used to determine the biological age of brain tissue sections.

Strengths:

Very few studies focus on the POLK protein in the peripheral nervous system (PNS). The microscopy approach used here is also very relevant: it allows the authors to highlight a radical change in POLK localization (nuclear versus cytoplasmic) depending on the age of the neurons.

The conclusions of the study are strong. Several types of neurones are compared, the colocalization with several proteins from the NHEJ and BER repair pathways is tested, and microscopy images are systematically quantified.

Weaknesses:

The authors do not discuss the physical nature of POLK granules. There is a large field of research dedicated to the nature and function of condensates: in particular numerous studies have shown that some condensates but not all exhibit liquid-like properties (https://www.nature.com/articles/nrm.2017.7, https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33510441/ https://www.mdpi.com/2073-4425/13/10/1846). The change of physical properties of condensates is particularly important in cells undergoing stress and during aging. The authors should discuss this literature.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

This study examined the effects of uncertainty over states (i.e., stimuli) and uncertainty over rewards (i.e., reward probability) on human learning and decision-making in a simple reinforcement learning task. The authors proposed two hypotheses: (1) high uncertainty over states reduces the learning rate, and (2) visual salience drives decision-making. A Bayesian learner is proposed to support the first hypothesis and several regression analyses confirm this finding. Furthermore, the analysis of salience bias also supports the second hypothesis.

Strengths:

(1) The experiment is simple and solid.

(2) The experimental design is clever and consistent with several well-established paradigms.

Weaknesses:

(1) One of my main concerns is that the first conclusion "high uncertainty over states reduces learning rate" is not new and has been shown recently in Yoo et al. (2023). In that study, a slower learning rate was found when stimuli were perceptually similar. It seems to me that the only difference here is that simple Gabor patches are used instead of e.g., green vegetable images in that study. The conclusion is exactly the same.

(2) The second hypothesis should be more explicit. Instead of claiming "A drives B", can you show specific predictions for the direction of this influence? For example, given the same expected value, do human learners prefer to choose a high-contrast stimulus? and why?

(3) The analyses of salience bias support the second hypothesis. However, If I understand it correctly, there is no salience parameter (i.e., absolute contrast of each stimulus) in the decision process, according to Eqs. 4,5, and 6 in the Methods. In other words, the Bayesian learner should not exhibit a salience bias. The question then became, why do human learners have such a bias? What are the underlying mechanisms of the salience bias?

(4) If high perceptual uncertainty reduces the learning rate, why does the normative agent, which takes perceptual uncertainty into account, learn faster than the categorical agent, which has no perceptual uncertainty at all? Did I miss something?

(5) The learning algorithm is different from the standard Q-learning modeling approach. Better to include more explanation of why this type of learning algorithm is Bayesian optimal?

(6) Similar to the above, Bayesian modeling here only confirms that high perceptual uncertainty reduces the learning rate in an optimal Bayesian learner. Two questions remain elusive: (a) whether human learners are close to the Bayesian learner (i.e., near optimal). It seems that (a) is unlikely given several suboptimal heuristics (e.g., confirmation bias) found in humans. Then the question is (b) how optimal learning and suboptimal heuristics are combined in the human learning process. One of the major disadvantages of this study is that no new model is proposed to fit trial-by-trial human choices. I believe that building formal process models is the key to improving this study.

(7) The writing should be substantially improved. The main concern here is that the authors used several seemingly related but ambiguous words to represent the same concept. For example, "perceptual uncertainty" in Figures 1 & 2 indicate the contrast differences between two patches. But page 5 line 9 includes "belief-state uncertainty". Are they the same concept? Moreover, on page 18 line 17, if I understand it correctly, "perceptual uncertainty" here indicates sensory noise not contrast differences. Please carefully check all terminologies and use a single and concrete one to represent a concept throughout the paper.

(8) Similarly, is the "task state" on page 17 the same as the "perceptual state" in Figure 1&2?

(9) The Methods section could also be improved. For example, I am not sure how Eq. 5 is derived. Also, page 18 line 16 states that "in our simulations, we manipulated...'. I did not find any information about the simulation. How was the simulation performed? Did I miss something?

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

The authors addressed the question of how perceptual uncertainty and reward uncertainty jointly shape value-based decision-making. They sought to test two main hypotheses: (H1) perceptual uncertainty modulates learning rates, and (H2) perceptual salience is integrated in value computation. Through a series of analyses, including regression models and normative computational modeling, they showed that learning rates were modulated by perceptual uncertainty (reflected by differences in contrast), supporting H1, and the update was indeed biased toward high-contrast (ie, salient) stimuli, supporting H2.

Strengths:

This is a timely and interesting study, with a strong theory-driven focus, reflected by the sophisticated experimental design that systematically tests both perceptual and reward uncertainty. This paper is also well written, with relevant examples (bakery) that draw the analogy to explain the main research question. The main response by participants is reward probability estimation (on a slider), which goes beyond commonly used binary choices and offers richness of the data, that was eventually used in the regression analysis. This work may also open new directions to test the interaction between perceptual decision-making and value-based decision-making.

Weaknesses:

Despite the strengths, multiple points may need to be clarified, to make this paper stronger.

(1) Experimental design:

(1a) The authors stated (page 6) that "The systematic manipulation of uncertainty resulted in three experimental conditions." If this is truly systematic, wouldn't there be a low-low condition, in a factorial design fashion? Essentially, the current study has H(perceptual uncertainty)-H(reward uncertainty), L(perceptual uncertainty)-H(reward uncertainty), H(perceptual uncertainty)-L(reward uncertainty), but naturally, one would anticipate a L-L condition. It could be argued that the L-L condition may seem too easy, causing a ceiling effect, but it nonetheless provides a benchmark for baseline learning when everting is not ambiguous. Unless the authors would love to, I am not asking the authors to run additional experiments to include all these 4 conditions. But it would be helpful to justify their initial choice of why a L-L condition was not included.

(1b) I feel there are certain degrees of imbalance regarding the levels of uncertainty. For reward uncertainty, {0.9, 0.1} is low uncertainty, and {0.7, 0.3} is uncertainty, whereas for perceptual uncertainty, the levels of differences in contrasts of the Gabor stimuli are much higher. This means the design appears to be more sensitive to detect any effect that can be caused by perceptual uncertainty (as there is sufficient variation) than reward uncertainty. Again, I am not asking the authors to run additional experiments, but it would be very helpful if they can explain/justify the choice of experimental set up and specification.

(2) Statistical Analysis:

(2a) There is some inconsistency regarding the stats used. For all the comparisons across the three conditions, sometimes an F-test is used followed by a series of t-tests (eg. page 6), but in other places, only pair-wise t-tests were reported without an F-test (eg, page 12). It would be helpful, for all of them, to have an F-test first, and then three t-tests. And for the F-test, I assume it was one-way ANOVA? This info was not explicit in the Methods. Also, what multiple comparison corrections were used, or whether it was used at all?

(2b) Regarding normative modeling, I am aware that this is a pure simulation without model fitting, but it loses the close relationship between the data and model without model fitting. I wonder if model fitting can be done at all. As it stands, there is even no qualitative evidence regarding how well the model could explain the data (eg, by adding real data to Figure 3e). In other words, now that it is a normative model, it is no surprise that it works, but it is not known if it works to account for human data. As a side note, I appreciate that certain groups of researchers tend not to run model estimation; instead, model simulations are used to qualitatively compare the model and data. This is particularly true for "normative models". But at least in the current case, I believe model estimation can be implemented, and will provide mode insights.

(2c) Relatedly, regarding specific results shown in Figure 4b - the normative agent has a near-zero effect on the fixed learning rate. I do not find these results surprising, because since the normative agent "knows" what is going to happen, and which state the agent is in, there is no need to update the prediction error in the classic Q-learning fashion. But humans, on the other hand, do NOT know the environment, hence they do not know what they are supposed to do, like the model. In essence, the model knows more than the humans in the task know. We can leave this to debate, but I believe most cognitive modelers would agree that the model should not know more than humans know. I think it would be helpful if the authors could discuss the advantages and disadvantages of using normative models in this case.

(2d) I find the results in Figure 5 interesting. But given the dependent variable is identical across the three correlations (ie, absolute estimation error), I would suggest the authors put all three predicters into a single multiple regression. This way, shared variance, if any, could also be taken into account by the model.

(2e) I feel the focus on testing H2 is somewhat too less on H1. The authors did a series of analyses on testing and supporting H1, but then only briefly on H2. On first reading, I wondered why not having a normative model also tests the effect of salience, but actually, salience is indeed included in the model (buried in the methods). I am curious to know whether analyzing the salience-related parameter (beta_4) would also support H2.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

This work shows that resistance profiles to a variety of drugs are variable between different mycobacterial species and are not correlated with growth rate or intrabacterial compound concentration (at least for linezolid, bedaquiline, and Rifampicin). Note that intrabacterial compound concentration does not distinguish between cytosolic and periplasmic/cell wall-associated drugs. The susceptibility profiles for a wide range of mycobacteria tested under the same conditions against 15 commonly used antimycobacterial drugs provide the first recorded cross-species comparison which will be a valuable resource for the scientific community. To understand the reasons for the high Rifampicin resistance seen in many mycobacteria, the authors confirm the presence of the arr gene known to encode a Rif ribosyltransferase involved in Rif resistance in M. smegmatis in the resistant mycobacteria after confirming the absence of on-target mutations in the RpoB RRDR. Metabolomic analyses confirm the presence of ribosylated Rif in some of the naturally resistant mycobacteria which may not be entirely surprising but an important confirmation. Presumably M. branderi is highly resistant despite lacking the arr homolog due to the rpoB S45N mutation. M. flavescens has an MIC similar to that of M. smegmatis, despite having both Arr-1 and Arr-X. Various Arr-1 and Arr-X proteins are expressed and characterized for catalytic activity which shows that Arr-X is a faster enzyme,, especially with respect to more hydrophobic rifamycins. M. flavescens has similar MIC values to Rifapentine and Rifabutin to M. smegmatis. Thus, the Arr-1 versus Arr-X comparison does not provide a complete explanation for the underlying reasons driving natural Rif resistance in mycobacteria. Downregulation of Arr-X expression in M. conceptionense confers increased sensitivity to Rifabutin confirming its role as a rifamycin-inactivating enzyme.

Overall, the comparison of cross-species susceptibility profiles is novel; the demonstration that MIC is not correlated with intracellular drug concentration is important but not sufficiently interrogated, the demonstration that Arr-X is also a Rif ADP-ribosyltransferase is a good confirmation and shows that it is more efficient than Arr-1 on hydrophobic rifamycins is interesting but maybe not entirely surprising. The manuscript seems to have two parts that are related, but the rifamycin modification aspect of the work is not strongly linked to the first part since it interrogates the modification of one drug but not the common cause of natural resistance for other drugs.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

The authors use a variety of methods to investigate the mechanisms of innate drug resistance in mycobacteria. They end up focusing on two primary determinants - drug accumulation, which correlates rather poorly with resistance for many species, and, for the rifamycins, ADP-ribosyltransferases. The latter enzymes do appear to account for a good deal of resistance, though it is difficult to extrapolate quantitatively what their relative contributions are.

Overall, they make excellent use of biochemical methods to support their conclusions. Though they set out to draw very broad lessons, much of the focus ends up being on rifamycins. This is still a very interesting set of conclusions.

Strengths:

(1) A very interesting approach and set of questions.

(2) Outstanding technical approaches to measuring intracellular drug concentrations and chemical modification of rifamycins.

(3) Excellent characterization of variant rifamycin ADP-ribosyltransferases

Weaknesses:

(1) Figure 3c/d: These panels show the same experiment done twice, yet they display substantially different results in certain cases. For instance, M. smegmatis appears to show an order of magnitude lower RIF accumulation in panel d compared to M. flavescens, despite them displaying equal accumulation in panel c. The authors should provide justification for this variation, particularly as quantitative intra-species comparisons are central to the conclusions of this figure.

(2) There are several technical concerns with Figure 3 that affect how to interpret the work. According to the methods, the authors did not appear to normalize to an internal standard, only to an external antibiotic standard (which may account for some of the technical variation alluded to above). Second, the authors used different concentrations of drug for each species to try to match the species' MICs. I appreciate the authors' thinking on this, but I think for an uptake experiment it would be more appropriate to treat with the same concentration of drug since uptake is likely saturable at higher drug concentrations. In the current setup, for the species with higher MIC, they have to be able to uptake substantially more antibiotics than the species with low MIC in order to end up with the same normalized uptake value in Figure 3d. It would be helpful to repeat this experiment with a single drug concentration in the media for all species and test whether that gives the same results seen here.

(3) Figure 4f: This panel seems to argue against the idea that the efficacy of RIF ribosylation is what's driving drug susceptibility. M. flavescens is similarly resistant to RIF as M. smegmatis, yet M. flavescens has dramatically lower riboslyation of RIF. This is perhaps not surprising, as the authors appropriately highlight the number of different rif-modifying enzymes that have been identified that likely also contribute to drug resistance. However, I do think this means that the authors can't make the claim that the resistance they observe is caused by rifamycin modification, so those claims in the text and figure legend should be altered unless the authors can provide further evidence to support them. This experiment also has results that are inconsistent with what appears to be an identical experiment performed in Supplemental Figure 5b. The authors should provide context for why these results differ.

(4) Fig 4f/5c: M. flavescens has both Arr-1 and Arr-X, yet it appears to not have ribosylated RIF. This result seems to undermine the authors' reliance on the enzyme assay shown in Fig 5c - in that assay, M. flavescens Arr-X is very capable of modifying rifampicin, yet that doesn't appear to translate to the in vivo setting. This is of importance because the authors use this enzyme assay to argue that Arr-X is a fundamentally more powerful RIF resistance mechanism than Arr-1 and that it has specificity for rifabutin. However, the result in Figure 4f would argue that the enzyme assay results cannot be directly translated to in vivo contexts. For the authors to claim that Arr-X is most potent at modifying rifabutin, they could test their CRISPRi knockdowns of Arr-X and Arr-1 under treatment with each of the rifamycins they use in the enzyme assay. The authors mentioned that they didn't do this because all the strains are resistant to those compounds; however, if Arr-X is important for drug resistance, it would be reasonable to expect to see sensitization of the bacteria to those compounds upon knockdown.

(5) Figure 5d: The authors use this CRISRPi experiment to claim that ArrX from M. conceptionanse is more potent at inactivating rifabutin than Arr-1. This claim depends on there being equal degrees of knockdown of Arr-1 and Arr-X, so the authors should validate the degree of knockdown they get. This is particularly important because, to my knowledge, nobody has used this system in M. conceptionanse before

(6) The authors' arguments about Arr-X and Arr-1 would be strengthened by showing by LC/MS that Arr-X knockdown in M. conceptionense results in more loss of ribosyl-rifabutin than knockdown of Arr-1.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

This manuscript presents a macroevolutionary approach to the identification of novel high-level antibiotic resistance determinants that takes advantage of the natural genetic diversity within a genus (mycobacteria, in this case) by comparing antibiotic resistance profiles across related bacterial species and then using computational, molecular, and cellular approaches to identify and characterize the distinguishing mechanisms of resistance. The approach is contrasted with "microevolutionary" approaches based on comparing resistant and susceptible strains of the same species and approaches based on ecological sampling that may not include clinically relevant pathogens or related species. The potential for new discoveries with the macroevolution-inspired approach is evident in the diversity of drug susceptibility profiles revealed amongst the selected mycobacterial species and the identification and characterization of a new group of rifamycin-modifying ADP-ribosyltransferase (Arr) orthologs of previously described mycobacterial Arr enzymes. Additional findings that intra-bacterial antibiotic accumulation does not always predict potency within this genus, that M. marinum is a better proxy for M. tuberculosis drug susceptibility than the commonly used saprophyte M. smegmatis, and that susceptibility to semi-synthetic antibiotic classes is generally less variable than susceptibility to antibiotics more directly derived from natural products strengthen the claim that the macroevolutionary lens is valuable for elucidating general principles of susceptibility within a genus.

There are some limitations to the work. The argument for the novelty of the approach could be better articulated. While the opportunities for new discoveries presented by the identification of discrepant susceptibility results between related species are evident, it is less clear how the macroevolutionary approach is further leveraged for the discovery of truly novel resistance determinants. The example of the discovery of Arr-X enzymes presented here relied upon foundational knowledge of previously characterized Arr orthologs. There is little clarity on what the pipeline for identifying more novel resistance determinants would look like. In other words, what does the macroevolutionary perspective contribute to discovery from the point of finding interspecies differences in susceptibility? Does the framework still remain distinct from other discovery frameworks and approaches? If so, how?

While the experimentation and analyses performed appear well-designed and rigorous, there are a few instances in which broad claims are based on inferences from sample sets or data sets that are too limited to provide robust support. For example, the claim that rifampicin modification, and precisely ADP-ribosylation, is the dominant mechanism of resistance to rifampicin in mycobacteria may be a bit premature or an over-generalization, as other enzymatic modification mechanisms and other mechanisms such as helR-mediated dissociation of rifampicin-stalled RNA polymerases, efflux, etc were not examined nor were CRISPRi knockdown experiments conducted beyond an experiment to tease out the role of Arr-X and Arr-1 in one strain. The general claim that intra-bacterial antibiotic accumulation does not predict potency in mycobacteria may be another over-generalization based on the limited number of drugs and species studied, but perhaps the intended assertion was that antibiotic accumulation ALONE does not predict potency.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

In this manuscript, the authors aimed to show that SF1 and QKI compete for the intron branch point sequence ACUAA and provide evidence that QKI represses inclusion when bound to it.

Major strengths of this manuscript include:<br /> (1) Identification of the ACUAA-like motif in exons regulated by QKI and SF1.<br /> (2) The use of the splicing reporter and mutant analysis to show that upstream and downstream ACUAAC elements in intron 10 of RAI are required for repressing splicing.<br /> (3) The use of proteomic to identify proteins in C2C12 nuclear extract that binds to the wild type and mutant sequence.<br /> (4) The yeast studies showing that ectopic lethality when Qki5 expression was induced, due to increased mis-splicing of transcripts that contain the ACUAA element.

The authors conclusively show that the ACUAA sequence is bound by QKI and provide strong evidence that this leads to differences in exons inclusion and exclusion. In animal cells, and especially in human, branchpoint sequences are degenerate but seem to be recognized by specific splicing factors. Although a subset of splicing factors shows tissue-specific expression patterns most don't, suggesting that yet-to-be-identified mechanisms regulate splicing. This work suggests that an alternate mechanism could be related to the binding affinity of specific RNA binding factors for branchpoint sequences coupled with the level of these different splicing factors in a given cell.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

In this manuscript, Pereira de Castro and coworkers are studying potential competition between a more standard splicing factor SF1, and an alternative splicing factor called QK1. This is interesting because they bind to overlapping sequence motifs and could potentially have opposing effects on promoting the splicing reaction. To test this idea, the authors KD either SF1 or QK1 in mammalian cells and uncover several exons whose splicing regulation follows the predicted pattern of being promoted for splicing by SF1 and repressed by QK1. Importantly, these have introns enriched in SF1 and QK1 motifs. The authors then focus on one exon in particular with two tandem motifs to study the mechanism of this in greater detail and their results confirm the competition model. Mass spec analysis largely agrees with their proposal; however, it is complicated by the apparently quick transition of SF1-bound complexes to later splicing intermediates. An inspired experiment in yeast shows how QK1 competition could potentially have a detrimental impact on splicing in an orthogonal system. Overall, these results show how splicing regulation can be achieved by competition between a "core" and alternative splicing factor and provide additional insight into the complex process of branch site recognition. The manuscript is exceptionally clear and the figures and data are very logically presented. The work will be valuable to those in the splicing field who are interested in both mechanism and bioinformatics approaches to deconvolve any apparent "splicing code" being used by cells to regulate gene expression. Criticisms are minor and the most important of them stem from overemphasis on parts of the manuscript on the evolutionary angle when evolution itself wasn't analyzed per se.

Strengths:

(1) The main discovery of the manuscript involving evidence for SF1/QK1 competition is quite interesting and important for this field. This evidence has been missing and may change how people think about branch site recognition.

(2) The experiments and the rationale behind them are exceptionally clearly and logically presented. This was wonderful!

(3) The experiments are carried out to a high standard and well-designed controls are included.

(4) The extrapolation of the result to yeast in order to show the potentially devastating consequences of the QK1 competition was very exciting and creative.

Weaknesses:

Overall the weaknesses are relatively minor and involve cases where clarification is necessary, some additional analysis could bolster the arguments, and suggestions for focusing the manuscript on its strengths.

(1) The title (Ancient...evolutionary outcomes), abstract, and some parts of the discussion focus heavily on the evolutionary implications of this work. However, evolutionary analysis was not performed in these studies (e.g., when did QK1 and SF1 proteins arise and/or diverge? How does this line up with branch site motifs and evolution of U2? Any insight from recent work from Scott Roy et al?). I think this aspect either needs to be bolstered with experimental work/data or this should be tamped down in the manuscript. I suggest highlighting the idea expressed in the sentence "A nuanced implication of this model is that loss-of-function...". To me, this is better supported by the data and potentially by some analysis of mutations associated with human disease.

(2) One paper that I didn't see cited was that by Tanackovic and Kramer (Mol Biol Cell 2005). This paper is relevant because they KD SF1 and found it nonessential for splicing in vivo. Do their results have implications for those here? How do the results of the KD compare? Could QK1 competition have influenced their findings (or does their work influence the "nuanced implication" model referenced above?)?

(3) Can the authors please provide a citation for the statement "degeneracy is observed to a higher degree in organisms with more alternative splicing"? Does recent evolutionary analysis support this?

(4) For the data in Figure 3, I was left wondering if NMD was confounding this analysis. Can the authors respond to this and address this concern directly?

(5) To me, the idea that an engaged U2 snRNP was pulled down in Figure 4F would be stronger if the snRNA was detected. Was that able to be observed by northern or primer extension? Would SF1 be enriched if the U2 snRNA was degraded by RNaseH in the NE?

(6) I'm wondering how additive the effects of QK1 and SF1 are... In Figure 2, if QK1 and SF1 are both knocked down, is the splicing of exon 11 restored to "wt" levels?

(7) The first discussion section has two paragraphs that begin "How does competition between SF1..." and "Relatively little is known about how...". I found the discussion and speculation about localization, paraspekles, and lncRNAs interesting but a bit detracting from the strengths of the manuscript. I would suggest shortening these two paragraphs into a single one.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

Summary:

In this manuscript, the authors were trying to establish whether competition between the RNA-binding proteins SF1 and QKI controlled splicing outcomes. These two proteins have similar binding sites and protein sequences, but SF1 lacks a dimerization motif and seems to bind a single version of the binding sequence. Importantly, these binding sequences correspond to branchpoint consensus sequences, with SF1 binding leading to productive splicing, but QKI binding leading instead to association with paraspeckle proteins. They show that in human cells SF1 generally activates exons and QKI represses, and a large group of the jointly regulated exons (43% of joint targets) are reciprocally controlled by SF1 and QKI. They focus on one of these exons RAI14 that shows this reciprocal pattern of regulation, and has 2 repeats of the binding site that make it a candidate for joint regulation, and confirm regulation within a minigene context. The authors used the assembly of proteins within nuclear extracts to explain the effect of QKI versus SF1 binding. Finally, the authors show that the expression of QKI is lethal in yeast, and causes splicing defects.

How this fits in the field. This study is interesting and provides a conceptual advance by providing a general rule on how SF1 and QKI interact in relation to binding sites, and the relative molecular fates followed, so is very useful. Most of the analysis seems to focus on one example, although the molecular analysis and global work significantly add to the picture from the previously published paper about NUMB joint regulation by QKI and SF (Zong et al, cited in text as reference 50, that looked at SF1 and QKI binding in relation to a duplicated binding site/branchpoint sequence in NUMB).

Strengths:

The data presented are strong and clear. The ideas discussed in this paper are of wide interest, and present a simple model where two binding sites generate a potentially repressive QKI response, whereas exons that have a single upstream sequence are just regulated by SF1. The assembly of splicing complexes on RNAs derived from RAI14 in nuclear extracts, followed by mass spec gave interesting mechanistic insight into what was occurring as a result of QKI versus SF1 binding.

Weaknesses:

I did not think the title best summarises the take-home message and could be perhaps a bit more modest. Although the authors investigated splicing patterns in yeast and human cells, yeast do not have QKI so there is no ancient competition in that case, and the study did not really investigate physiological or evolutionary outcomes in splicing, although it provides interesting speculation on them. Also as I understood it, the important issue was less conserved branchpoints in higher eukaryotes enabling alternative splicing, rather than competition for the conserved branchpoint sequence. So despite the the data being strong and properly analysed and discussed in the paper, could the authors think whether they fit best with the take-home message provided in the title? Just as a suggestion (I am sure the authors can do a better job), maybe "molecular competition between variant branchpoint sequences predict physiological and evolutionary outcomes in splicing"?

Although the authors do provide some global data, most of the detailed analysis is of RAI14. It would have been useful to examine members of the other quadrants in Figure 1C as well for potential binding sites to give a reason why these are not co-regulated in the same way as RAI14. How many of the RAI14 quadrants had single/double sites (the motif analysis seemed to pull out just one), and could one of the non-reciprocally regulated exons be moved into a different quadrant by addition or subtraction of a binding site or changing the branchpoint (using a minigene approach for example).

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Shigella flexneri is a bacterial pathogen that is an important globally significant cause of diarrhea. Shigella pathogenesis remains poorly understood. In their manuscript, Saavedra-Sanchez et al report their discovery that a secreted E3 ligase effector of Shigella, called IpaH1.4, mediates the degradation of a host E3 ligase called RNF213. RNF213 was previously described to mediate ubiquitylation of intracellular bacteria, an initial step in their targeting of xenophagosomes. Thus, Shigella IpaH1.4 appears to be an important factor in permitting evasion of RNF213-mediated host defense.

Strengths:

The work is focused, convincing, well-performed, and important. The manuscript is well-written.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

The authors find that the bacterial pathogen Shigella flexneri uses the T3SS effector IpaH1.4 to induce degradation of the IFNg-induced protein RNF213. They show that in the absence of IpaH1.4, cytosolic Shigella is bound by RNF213. Furthermore, RNF213 conjugates linear and lysine-linked ubiquitin to Shigella independently of LUBAC. Intriguingly, they find that Shigella lacking ipaH1.4 or mxiE, which regulates the expression of some T3SS effectors, are not killed even when ubiquitylated by RNF213 and that these mutants are still able to replicate within the cytosol, suggesting that Shigella encodes additional effectors to escape from host defenses mediated by RNF213-driven ubiquitylation.

Strengths:

The authors take a variety of approaches, including host and bacterial genetics, gain-of-function and loss-of-function assays, cell biology, and biochemistry. Overall, the experiments are elegantly designed, rigorous, and convincing.

Weaknesses:

The authors find that ipaH1.4 mutant S. flexneri no longer degrades RNF213 and recruits RNF213 to the bacterial surface. The authors should perform genetic complementation of this mutant with WT ipaH1.4 and the catalytically inactive ipaH1.4 to confirm that ipaH1.4 catalytic activity is indeed responsible for the observed phenotype.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

Summary:

In this study, the authors set out to investigate whether and how Shigella avoids cell-autonomous immunity initiated through M1-linked ubiquitin and the immune sensor and E3 ligase RNF213. The key findings are that the Shigella flexneri T3SS effector, IpaH1.4 induces degradation of RNF213. Without IpaH1.4, the bacteria are marked with RNF213 and ubiquitin following stimulation with IFNg. Interestingly, this is not sufficient to initiate the destruction of the bacteria, leading the authors to conclude that Shigella deploys additional virulence factors to avoid this host immune response. The second key finding of this paper is the suggestion that M1 chains decorate the mxiE/ipaH Shigella mutant independent of LUBAC, which is, by and large, considered the only enzyme capable of generating M1-linked ubiquitin chains.

Strengths:

The data is for the most part well controlled and clearly presented with appropriate methodology. The authors convincingly demonstrate that IpaH1.4 is the effector responsible for the degradation of RNF213 via the proteasome, although the site of modification is not identified.

Weaknesses:

The work builds on prior work from the same laboratory that suggests that M1 ubiquitin chains can be formed independently of LUBAC (in the prior publication this related to Chlamydia inclusions). In this study, two pieces of evidence support this statement -fluorescence microscopy-based images and accompanying quantification in Hoip and Hoil knockout cells for association of M1-ub, using an antibody, to Shigella mutants and the use of an internally tagged Ub-K7R mutant, which is unable to be incorporated into ubiquitin chains via its lysine residues. Given that clones of the M1-specific antibody are not always specific for M1 chains, and because it remains formally possible that the Int-K7R Ub can be added to the end of the chain as a chain terminator or as mono-ub, the authors should strengthen these findings relating to the claim that another E3 ligase can generate M1 chains de novo.

The main weakness relating to the infection work is that no bacterial protein loading control is assayed in the western blots of infected cells, leaving the reader unable to determine if changes in RNF213 protein levels are the result of the absent bacterial protein (e.g. IpaH1.4) or altered infection levels.

The importance of IFNgamma priming for RNF213 association to the mxiE or ipaH1.4 strain could have been investigated further as it is unclear if RNF213 coating is enhanced due to increased protein expression of RNF213 or another factor. This is of interest as IFNgamma priming does not seem to be needed for RNF213 to detect and coat cytosolic Salmonella.

Overall, the findings are important for the host-pathogen field, cell-autonomous/innate immune signaling fields, and microbial pathogenesis fields. If further evidence for LUBAC independent M1 ubiquitylation is achieved this would represent a significant finding.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

This study highlights the role of role of telomeres in modulating IL-1 signaling and tumor immunity. The authors demonstrate a strong correlation between telomere length and IL-1 signaling by analyzing TNBC patient samples and tumor-derived organoids. Mechanistic insights revealed that non-telomeric TRF2 binding at the IL-1R1. The observed effects on NF-kB signaling and subsequent alterations in cytokine expression contribute significantly to our understanding of the complex interplay between telomeres and the tumor microenvironment. Furthermore, the study reports that the length of telomeres and IL-1R1 expression is associated with TAM enrichment. However, the manuscript lacks in-depth mechanistic insights into how telomere length affects IL-1R1 expression Overall, this work broadens our understanding of telomere biology.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

Summary:

In this manuscript, entitled "Telomere length sensitive regulation of Interleukin Receptor 1 type 1 (IL1R1) by the shelterin protein TRF2 modulates immune signalling in the tumour microenvironment", Dr Mukherjee and colleagues pointed at clarifying the extra-telomeric role of TRF2 in regulating IL1R1 expression with consequent impact on TAMs tumor-infiltration.

Strengths:

Upon a careful manuscript evaluation, I feel to conclude that the presented story is undoubtedly well conceived. At technical level, experiments have been properly performed and the obtained results well-support author conclusions.

Weaknesses:

Unfortunately, the covered topic is not particularly novel. In detail, TRF2 capability of binding extratelomeric foci in cells with short telomeres has been well demonstrated in a previous work published by the same research group. The capability of TRF2 to regulate gene expression is well-known, the capability of TRF2 to interact with p300 has been already demonstrated and, finally, the capability of TRF2 to regulate TAMs infiltration (that is the effective novelty of the manuscript) appears as an obvious consequence of IL1R1 modulation (this is probably due to the current manuscript organization).

Reviewer #1 (Public Review):

Summary/Strengths:

This manuscript describes a stimulating contribution to the field of human motor control. The complexity of control and learning is studied with a new task offering a myriad of possible coordination patterns. Findings are original and exemplify how baseline relationships determine learning.

Weaknesses:

A new task is presented: it is a thoughtful one, but because it is a new one, the manuscript section is filled with relatively new terms and acronyms that are not necessarily easy to rapidly understand.

First, some more thoughts may be devoted to the take-home message. In the title, I am not sure manipulating a stick with both hands is a key piece of information. Also, the authors appear to insist on the term 'implicit', and I wonder if it is a big deal in this manuscript and if all the necessary evidence appears in this study that control and adaptation are exclusively implicit. As there is no clear comparison between gradual and abrupt sessions, the authors may consider removing at least from the title and abstract the words 'implicit' and 'implicitly'. Most importantly, the authors may consider modifying the last sentence of the abstract to clearly provide the most substantial theoretical advance from this study.

It seems that a substantial finding is the 'constraint' imposed by baseline control laws on sensorimotor adaptation. This seems to echo and extend previous work of Wu, Smith et al. (Nat Neurosci, 2014): their findings, which were not necessarily always replicated, suggested that the more participants were variable in baseline, the better they adapted to a systematic perturbation. The authors may study whether residual errors are smaller or adaptation is faster for individuals with larger motor variability in baseline. Unfortunately, the authors do not present the classic time course of sensorimotor adaptation in any experiment. The adaptation is not described as typically done: the authors should thus show the changes in tip movement direction and stick-tilt angle across trials, and highlight any significant difference between baseline, early adaptation, and late adaptation, for instance. I also wonder why the authors did not include a few no-perturbation trials after the exposure phase to study after-effects in the study design: it looks like a missed opportunity here. Overall, I think that showing the time course of adaptation is necessary for the present study to provide a more comprehensive understanding of that new task, and to re-explore the role of motor variability during baseline for sensorimotor adaptation.

The distance between hands was fixed at 15 cm with the Kinarm instead of a mechanical constraint. I wonder how much this distance varied and more importantly whether from that analysis or a force analysis, the authors could determine whether one hand led the other one in the adaptation.

I understand the distinction between task- and end-effector irrelevant perturbation, and at the same time results show that the nervous system reacts to both types of perturbation, indicating that they both seem relevant or important. In line 32, the errors mentioned at the end of the sentence suggest that adaptation is in fact maladaptive. I think the authors may extend the Discussion on why adaptation was found in the experiments with end-effector irrelevant and especially how an internal (forward) model or a pair of internal (forward) models may be used to predict both the visual and the somatosensory consequences of the motor commands.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

The authors have developed a novel bimanual task that allows them to study how the sensorimotor control system deals with redundancy within our body. Specifically, the two hands control two robot handles that control the position and orientation of a virtual stick, where the end of the stick is moved into a target. This task has infinite solutions to any movement, where the two hands influence both tip-movement direction and stick-tilt angle. When moving to different targets in the baseline phase, participants change the tilt angle of the stick in a specific pattern that produces close to minimum movement of the two hands to produce the task. In a series of experiments, the authors then apply perturbations to the stick angle and stick movement direction to examine how either tip-movement (task-relevant) or stick-angle (task-irrelevant) perturbations effect adaptation. Both types of perturbations affect adaptation, but this adaptation follows the baseline pattern of tip-movement and stick angle relation such that even task-irrelevant perturbations drive adaptation in a manner that results in task-relevant errors. Overall, the authors suggest that these baseline relations affect how we adapt to changes in our tasks. This work provides an important demonstration that underlying solutions\relations can affect the manner in which we adapt. I think one major contribution of this work will also be the task itself, which provides a very fruitful and important framework for studying more complex motor control tasks.

Strengths:

Overall, I find this a very interesting and well-written paper. Beyond providing a new motor task that could be influential in the field, I think it also contributes to studying a very important question - how we can solve redundancy in the sensorimotor control system, as there are many possible mechanisms or methods that could be used - each of which produces different solutions and might affect the manner in which we adapt.

Weaknesses:

The visual perturbations were only provided while reaching to one target, which limits the amount of exploration of the environment that the participants experience. Overall, I would find the results even more compelling if the same perturbations applied to movements to more (or all) of the targets produced similar adaptation profiles. The question is to what degree the results derive from only providing a small subset of the environment to explore.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

Summary:

This study investigated motor system adaptation to new environments through modifications in redundant body movements. Utilizing a novel bimanual stick-manipulation task, participants controlled a virtual stick to reach targets, focusing on how tip-movement direction perturbations affected tip movement and stick-tilt adaptation. The findings revealed a consistent strategy among participants who flexibly adjusted the tilt angle of the stick in response to errors. The adaptation patterns were influenced by physical space relationships, which guided the motor system's selection of movement patterns. This study underscores the motor system's adaptability through changes in redundant body movement patterns.

Strengths:

This study introduces an innovative bimanual stick manipulation task to explore motor system adaptation to novel environments through alterations in redundant body movement patterns. It also expands the use of endpoint robots in motor control studies.

Weaknesses:

The generalizability of the findings is limited. Future work may strengthen the present study's findings by examining whether the observed relationships hold for different stick lengths (i.e., varying hand positions along the virtual stick) or when reaching targets to the left and right of the starting position, not just at varying angles along one side. Additionally, a more comprehensive review of the existing literature on redundant systems, rather than primarily focusing on the lack of redundancy in endpoint-reaching tasks, would have strengthened this study. While the novel task expands the use of endpoint robots in motor control studies, its utility in exploring broader aspects of motor control and learning may be constrained.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

The authors long term goals are to understand the utility of precisely phased cortex stimulation regimes on recovery of function after spinal cord injury (SCI). In prior work the authors explored effects of contralesion cortex stimulation. Here, they explore ipsilesion cortex stimulation in which the ipsilesion corticospinal fibers that cross at the pyramidal decussation are spared. The authors explore the effects of such stimulation in intact rats and rats with a hemisection lesion at thoracic level ipsilateral to the stimulated cortex. The appropriately phased microstimulation enhances contralateral flexion and ipsilateral extension, presumably through lumbar spinal cord crossed extension interneuron systems. This microstimulation improves weight bearing in the ipsilesion hindlimb soon after injury, before any normal recovery of function would be seen. The contralateral homologous cortex can be lesioned in intact rats without impacting the microstimulation effect on flexion and extension during gait. In two rats ipsilateral flexion responses are noted, but these are not clearly demonstrated to be independent of the contralateral homologous cortex remaining intact.

Strengths:

This paper adds to prior data on cortical microstimulation by the authors' laboratory in interesting ways. First, the strong effects of the spared crossed fibers from ipsi-lesional cortex in parts of the ipsi-lesion leg's step cycle and weight support function are solidly demonstrated. This raises the interesting possibility that stimulating contra-lesion cortex as reported previously may execute some of its effects through callosal coordination with the ipsi-lesion cortex tested here. This is also now discussed by the authors and may represent a significant aspect of these data. The authors demonstrate solidly that ablation of the contra-lesional cortex does not impede the effects reported here. I believe this has not been shown for the contra-lesional cortex microstimulation effects reported earlier, but I may be wrong.<br /> Effects and neuroprosthetic control of these effects are explored well in the ipsi-lesion cortex tests here.

Weaknesses:

Some data is based on only a few rats. For example (N=2) for ipsilateral flexion effects of microstimulation. N=3 for homologous cortex ablation, and only ipsi extension is tested it seems. However, these data clearly point the way and replication is likely.

Likely Impacts:

This data adds in significant ways to prior work by the authors, and an understanding of how phased stimulation in cortical neuroprosthetics may aid in recovery of function after SCI, especially if a few ambiguities in writing and interpretation are fully resolved.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

Summary:

This article aims to investigate the impact of neuroprosthesis (intracortical microstimulation) implanted unilaterally on the lesion side in the context of locomotor recovery following thoracic spinal hemisection.

Strength:

The study reveals that stimulating the left motor cortex, on the same side as the lesion, not only activates the expected right (contralateral) muscle activity but also influences unexpected muscle activity on the left (ipsilateral) side. These muscle activities resulted a substantial enhancement in lift during the swing phase of the contralateral limb and improved trunk-limb support for the ipsilateral limb. They used different experimental and stimulation condition to show the ipsilateral limb control evoked by the stimulation. This outcome holds significance, shedding light on the engagement of the contralateral-projecting corticospinal tract (CST) in activating a not only contralateral but also ipsilateral spinal network.

The experimental design and findings align with the investigation of the stimulation effect of contralateral projecting CSTs. They carefully examined the recovery of ipsilateral limb control with motor maps. And they also tested the effective sites of cortical stimulation. The study successfully demonstrates the impact of electrical stimulation on the contralateral projecting neurons on ipsilateral limb control during locomotion, as well as identifying importance stimulation spots for such effect. These results contribute to our understanding of how these neurons influence bilateral spinal circuitry. The study's findings contribute valuable insights to the broader neuroscience and rehabilitation communities.

Weakness:

The term "ipsilateral" lacks a clear definition in some cases, potentially causing confusion for the reader. Readers can potentially link ipsilateral cortical network to ipsilateral-projecting CSTs, which is less likely to play a role to ipsilateral limb control in this study since this tract is disrupted by the thoracic hemisection.

Specific comments:

Abstract: Line 1-4: Consider refining the initial sentences of the abstract to reduce ambiguity around the term 'ipsilateral lesion' and its potential conflation with ipsilateral projecting cortical neurons.

The abstract begins with 'Control of voluntary limb movement is predominantly attributed to the contralateral motor cortex.' This is followed by, 'However, increasing evidence suggests the involvement of ipsilateral cortical networks in this process, especially in motor tasks requiring bilateral coordination, such as locomotion.'

The phrase 'ipsilateral cortical networks' remains somewhat unclear. Readers may mistakenly interpret it as referring to the ipsilateral projecting corticospinal tract (CST), which is not the focus of this study.

Shifting the focus away from 'ipsilateral cortical control' and instead highlighting ipsilateral limb control following a spinal hemisection would improve clarity. This adjustment would also align the title and abstract more closely with the study's primary focus.

Introduction:<br /> It is suggested to revise the introduction to more closely align with the study's experimental design and outcomes, placing emphasis on the stimulation effects observed in contralateral projecting tracts rather than implying a primary focus on ipsilateral projecting CST neurons.

Line 30-32: "Nevertheless, the function of the ipsilateral motor cortex is unclear and its role in the recovery of motor control after injury remains controversial. " This still gives the impression that ipsilateral projecting CST is the topic of the research here. Also, some of the cited references contains discuss ipsilateral projecting CSTs.

Line 34-36: "While the most prominent feature of motor cortex pathways is their contralateral organization, unilateral or bilateral movements are well represented in the ipsilateral hemisphere." This sentence is unclear to me. It would be helpful to specify what 'ipsilateral hemisphere' refers to-ipsilateral to what? Clarifying whether it's ipsilateral to the lesion or another reference point would make the statement more precise."

Reviewer #1 - Public Review

Summary:

Jin, Briggs, and colleagues use light sheet imaging to reconstruct the islet three-dimensional Ca2+ network. The authors find that early/late responding (leader) cells are dynamic over time, and located at the islet periphery. By contrast, highly connected or hub cells are stable and located toward the islet center. Suggesting that the two subpopulations are differentially regulated by fuel input, glucokinase activation only influences leader cell phenotype, whereas hubs remain stable.

Strengths:

The studies are novel in providing the first three-dimensional snapshot of the beta cell functional network, as well as determining the localization of some of the different subpopulations identified to date. The studies also provide some consensus as to the origin, stability, and role of such subpopulations in islet function.

Weaknesses:

Experiments with metabolic enzyme activators do not take into account the influence of cell viability on the observed Ca2+ network data. Limitations of the imaging approach used need to be recognized and evaluated/discussed.

Reviewer #2 - Public Review

The manuscript by Erli Jin, Jennifer Briggs et al. utilizes light sheet microscopy to image islet beta cell calcium oscillations in 3D and determine where beta cell populations are located that begin and coordinate glucose-stimulated calcium oscillations. The light sheet technique allowed clear 3D mapping of beta cell calcium responses to glucose, glucokinase activation, and pyruvate kinase activation. The manuscript finds that synchronized beta-cells are found at the islet center, that leader beta cells showing the first calcium responses are located on the islet periphery, that glucokinase activation helped maintain beta cells that lead calcium responses, and that pyruvate kinase activation primarily increases islet calcium oscillation frequency. The study is well-designed, contains a significant amount of high-quality data, and the conclusions are largely supported by the results.

It has recently been shown that beta cells within islets containing intact vasculature (such as those in a pancreatic slice) show different calcium responses compared to isolated islets (such as that shown in PMID: 35559734). It would be important to include some discussion about the potential in vitro artifacts in calcium that arise following islet isolation (this could be included in the discussion about the limitations of the study).

Reviewer #3 - Public Review

Summary:

Jin, Briggs et al. made use of light-sheet 3D imaging and data analysis to assess the collective network activity in isolated mouse islets. The major advantage of using whole islet imaging, despite compromising on the speed of acquisition, is that it provides a complete description of the network, while 2D networks are only an approximation of the islet network. In static-incubation conditions, excluding the effects of perfusion, they assessed two subpopulations of beta cells and their spatial consistency and metabolic dependence.

Strengths:

The authors confirmed that coordinated Ca2+ oscillations are important for glycemic control. In addition, they definitively disproved the role of individual privileged cells, which were suggested to lead or coordinate Ca²⁺ oscillations. They provided evidence for differential regional stability, confirming the previously described stochastic nature of the beta cells that act as strongly connected hubs as well as beta cells in initiating regions (doi.org/10.1103/PhysRevLett.127.168101).

The fact that islet cores contain beta cells that are more active and more coordinated has also been readily observed in high-frequency 2D recordings (e.g. DOI: 10.2337/db22-0952), suggesting that the high-speed capture of fast activity can partially compensate for incomplete topological information.

They also found an increased metabolic sensitivity of mantle regions of an islet with a subpopulation of beta cells with a high probability of leading the islet activity which can be entrained by fuel input. They discuss a potential role of alpha/delta cell interaction, however relative lack of beta cells in the islet border region could also be a factor contributing to less connectivity and higher excitability.

The Methods section contains a useful series of direct instructions on how to approach fast 3D imaging with currently available hardware and software.

The Discussion is clear and includes most of the issues regarding the interpretation of the presented results.

Some issues concerning inconsistencies between data presented and statements made as well as statistical analysis need to be addressed.

Taken together it is a strong technical paper to demonstrate the stochasticity regarding the functions subpopulations of beta cells in the islets may have and how less well-resolved approaches (both missing spatial resolution as well as missing temporal resolution) led us to jump to unjustified conclusions regarding the fixed roles of individual beta cells within an islet.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

The authors comprehensively present data from single cell RNA sequencing and spatial transcriptomics experiments of the juvenile male and female mouse vomeronasal organ, with a particular emphasis on the neuronal populations found in this sensory tissue. The use of these two methods effectively maps the locations of relevant cell types in the vomeronasal organ at a level of depth beyond what is currently known. Targeted analysis of the neurons in the vomeronasal organ produced several important findings, notably the common co-expression of multiple vomeronasal type 1 receptors (V1Rs), vomeronasal type 2 receptors (V2Rs), and both V1R+V2Rs by individual neurons, as well as the presence of a small but noteworthy population of neurons expressing olfactory receptors (ORs) and associated signal transduction molecules. Additionally, the authors identify transcriptional patterns associated with neuronal development/maturation, producing lists of genes that can be used and/or further investigated by the field. Finally, the authors report the presence of coordinated combinatorial expression of transcription factors and axon guidance molecules associated with multiple neuronal types, providing the framework for future studies aimed at understanding how these patterns relate to the complex glomerular organization in the accessory olfactory bulb. Several of these conclusions have been reached by previous studies, partially limiting the overall impact of the current work. However, when combined, these results provide important insights into the cellular diversity in the vomeronasal organ that are likely to support multiple future studies of the vomeronasal system.

Strengths:

The comprehensive analysis of the data provides a wealth of information for future research into vomeronasal organ function. The targeted analysis of neuronal gene transcription demonstrates the co-expression of multiple receptors by individual neurons, and confirms the presence of a population of OR-expressing neurons in the vomeronasal organ. Although many of these findings have been noted by others, the depth of analysis here validates and extends prior findings in an effective manner. The use of spatial transcriptomics to identify the locations of specific cell types is especially useful and produces a template for the field's continued research into the various cell types present in this complex sensory tissue. Overall, the manuscript's biggest strength is found in the richness of the data presented, which will not only support future work in the broader field of vomeronasal system function but also provide insights into others studying complex sensory tissues.

Weaknesses:

The inherent weaknesses of single cell RNA sequencing studies based on the 10x Genomics platforms (need to dissociate tissues, limited depth of sequencing, etc.) is acknowledged. However, the authors document their extensive attempts to avoid making false positive conclusions through the use of software tools designed for this purpose. Because of its complexity, there are some portions of the manuscript where the data are difficult to interpret as presented, but this is a relatively minor weakness. The data resulting from the use of the Resolve Biosciences spatial transcriptomics platform are somewhat difficult to interpret because the methods are proprietary and presented in an opaque manner. That said, the resulting data provide useful links between transcriptional identities and cellular locations, which is not possible without the use of such tools.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

In their paper entitled "Molecular, Cellular, and Developmental Organization of the Mouse Vomeronasal Organ at Single Cell Resolution" Hills Jr. et al. perform single-cell transcriptomic profiling and analyze tissue distribution of a large number of transcripts in the mouse vomeronasal organ (VNO). The use of these complementary tools provides a robust approach to investigating many aspects of vomeronasal sensory neuron (VSN) biology based on transcriptomics. Harnessing the power of these techniques, the authors present the discovery of previously unidentified sensory neuron types in the mouse VNO. Furthermore, they report co-expression of chemosensory receptors from different clades on individual neurons, including the co-expression of VR and OR. Finally, they evaluated the correlation between transcription factor expression and putative surface axon guidance molecules during the development of different neuronal lineages. Based on such correlation analysis, authors further propose a putative cascade of events that could give rise to different neuronal lineages and morphological organization.

We appreciate the authors' efforts to add context and citations that relate to recent single cell RNA sequencing studies in the VNO as well as to studies on vomeronasal receptors co-expression and V1R/V2R lineage determination. We also appreciate the new details on the marker genes used for cell annotation as well as clarifications about the differences between juvenile versus adult or male versus female samples.

A concern still remaining is that two major claims/interpretations - i.e., identification of canonical OSNs and a novel type sVSNs in the mouse VNO - either require experimental substantiation or the authors' claims should be toned down. In their response, Hills Jr. et al. acknowledge that their "paper is primarily intended as a resource paper to provide access to a large-scale single-cell RNA-sequenced dataset and discoveries based on the transcriptomic data that can support and inspire ongoing and future experiments in the field." The authors also write that given "the limited number of genes that we can probe using Molecular Cartography, the number of genes associated with sVSNs may be present in the non-sensory epithelium. This could lead to the identification of cells that may or may not be identical to the sVSNs in the non-neuronal epithelium. Indeed, further studies will need to be conducted to determine the specificity of these cells." Moreover, Hills Jr. et al. acknowledge that as "any transcriptomic study will only be correlative, additional studies will be needed to unequivocally determine the mechanistic link between the transcription factors with receptor choice. Our model provides a basis for these studies." We agree with all these points. Importantly, in the revised manuscript, the authors do not acknowledge that their primary intention is to present "a resource paper to provide access to a large-scale single-cell RNA-sequenced dataset", nor do they acknowledge any of the other caveats/limitations mentioned above. We believe that the authors should not only mention these aspects in their response to the reviews, but they should also make these intentions/caveats/limitations very clear in the manuscript text.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

This study presents a detailed examination of the molecular and cellular organization of the mouse VNO, unveiling new cell types, receptor co-expression patterns, lineage specification regulation, and potential associations between transcription factors, guidance molecules, and receptor types crucial for vomeronasal circuitry wiring specificity. The study identifies a novel type of VSN molecularly different from classic VSNs, which may serve as accessory to other VSNs by secreting olfactory binding proteins and mucins in response to VNO activation. They also describe a previously undetected co-expression of multiple VRs in individual VSNs, providing an interesting view to the ongoing discussion on how receptor choice occurs in VSNs, either stochastic or deterministic. Finally, the study correlates the expression of axon guidance molecules associated with individual VRs, providing a putative molecular mechanism that specifies VSN axon projections and their connection with postsynaptic cells in the accessory olfactory bulb.

The conclusions of this paper are well supported by data, but some aspects of data analysis and acquisition need to be clarified and extended.

(1) The authors claim that they have identified two new classes of sensory neurons, one being a class of canonical olfactory sensory neurons (OSNs) within the VNO. This classification as canonical OSNs is based on expression data of neurons lacking the V1R or V2R markers but instead expressing ORs and signal transduction molecules, such as Gnal and Cnga2. Since OR-expressing neurons in the VNO have been previously described in many studies, it remains unclear to me why these OR-expressing cells are considered here a "new class of OSNs." Moreover, morphological features, including the presence of cilia, and functional data demonstrating the recognition of chemosignals by these neurons, are still lacking to classify these cells as OSNs akin to those present in the MOE. While these cells do express canonical markers of OSNs, they also appear to express other VSN-typical markers, such as Gnao1 and Gnai2 (Fig 2B), which are less commonly expressed by OSNs in the MOE. Therefore, it would be more precise to characterize this population as atypical VSNs that express ORs, rather than canonical OSNs.

(2) The second new class of sensory neurons identified corresponds to a group of VSNs expressing prototypical VSN markers (including V1Rs, V2Rs, and ORs), but exhibiting lower ribosomal gene expression. Clustering analysis reveals that this cell group is relatively isolated from V1R- and V2R-expressing clusters, particularly those comprising immature VSNs. The question then arises: where do these cells originate? Considering their fewer overall genes and lower total counts compared to mature VSNs, I wonder if these cells might represent regular VSNs in a later developmental stage, i.e., senescent VSNs. While the secretory cell hypothesis is compelling and supported by solid data, it could also align with a late developmental stage scenario. Further data supporting or excluding these hypotheses would aid in understanding the nature of this new cell cluster, with a comparison between juvenile and adult subjects appearing particularly relevant in this context.

(3) The authors' decision not to segregate the samples according to sex is understandable, especially considering previous bulk transcriptomic and functional studies supporting this approach. However, many of the highly expressed VR genes identified have been implicated in detecting sex-specific pheromones and triggering dimorphic behavior. It would be intriguing to investigate whether this lack of sex differences in VR expression persists at the single-cell level. Regardless of the outcome, understanding the presence or absence of major dimorphic changes would hold broad interest in the chemosensory field, offering insights into the regulation of dimorphic pheromone-induced behavior. Additionally, it could provide further support for proposed mechanisms of VR receptor choice in VSNs.

(4) The expression analysis of VRs and ORs seems to have been restricted to the cell clusters associated to the neuronal lineage. Are VRs/ORs expressed in other cell types, i.e. sustentacular, HBC or other cells?

Review update:

I believe the novel discovery of two classes of sensory neurons within the VNO-canonical olfactory sensory neurons (OSNs) and secretory vomeronasal sensory neurons (sVSNs)-should be interpreted with caution. Firstly, these cell types are relatively rare, constituting less than 2% of total cells and only 2-6% of the neuronal population (according to Fig. S3). While the OSNs exhibit gene expression profiles consistent with canonical olfactory signal transduction and cilia-related gene ontology, key aspects such as their cell morphology (including the presence of cilia) and functional evidence for chemosignal detection have yet to be demonstrated. The neuronal lineage of sVSNs remains unclear to me. It is uncertain what developmental trajectories these cells follow: do they arise as a specialized subtype of V1R or V2R lineages, or do they have an independent lineage determination, similar to OSNs? At what stage does the commitment to the sVSN lineage begin-during the INP stage or the immature sensory neuron stage? A pseudotime inference analysis of sVSNs could help clarify these questions.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

The fungal cell wall is a very important structure for the physiology of a fungus but also for the interaction of pathogenic fungi with the host. Although a lot of knowledge on the fungal cell wall has been gained, there is lack of understanding of the meaning of ß-1,6-glucan in the cell wall. In the current manuscript, the authors studied in particular this carbohydrate in the important human-pathogenic fungus Candida albicans. The authors provide a comprehensive characterization of cell wall constituents under different environmental and physiological conditions, in particular of ß-1,6-glucan. Also, β-1,6-glucan biosynthesis was found to be likely a compensatory reaction when mannan elongation was defective. The absence of β-1,6-glucan resulted in a significantly sick growth phenotype and complete cell wall reorganization. The manuscript contains a detailed analysis of the genetic and biochemical basis of ß-1,6-glucan biosynthesis which is apparently in many aspects similar to yeast. Finally, the authors provide some initial studies on immune modulatory effects of ß-1,6-glucan.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

The authors provide the first (to my knowledge) detailed characterization of cell wall b-1,6 glucan in the pathogen Candida albicans. The approaches range from biochemistry to genetics to immunology. The study provides fundamental information and will be a resource of exceptional value to the field going forward. Highlights include the construction of a mutant that lacks all b-1,6 glucan and the characterization of its cell wall composition and structure. Figure 5a is a feast for the eyes, showing that b-1,6 glucan is vital for the outer fibrillar layer of the cell wall. Also much appreciated was the summary figure, Figure 7, that presents the main findings in digestible form.

Strengths:

The work is highly significant for the fungal pathogen field especially, and more broadly for anyone studying fungi, antifungal drugs, or antifungal immune responses.<br /> The manuscript is very readable, which is important because most readers will be cell wall nonspecialists.<br /> The authors construct a key quadruple mutant, which is not trivial even with CRISPR methods, and validate it with a complemented strain. This aspect of the study sets the bar high.<br /> The authors develop new and transferable methods for b-1,6 glucan analysis.

Weaknesses:

The one "famous" cell type that would have been interesting to include is the opaque cell. Please include it in the next paper!

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

Summary:

The cell wall of human fungal pathogens, such as Candida albicans, is crucial for structural support and modulating the host immune response. Although extensively studied in yeasts and molds, the structural composition has largely focused on the structural glucan b,1,3-glucan and the surface exposed mannans, while the fibrillar component β-1,6-glucan, a significant component of the well wall, has been largely overlooked. This comprehensive biochemical and immunological study by a highly experienced cell wall group provides a strong case for the importance of β-1,6-glucan contributing critically to cell wall integrity, filamentous growth, and cell wall stability resulting from defects in mannan elongation. Additionally, β-1,6-glucan responds to environmental stimuli and stresses, playing a key role in wall remodeling and immune response modulation, making it a potential critical factor for host-pathogen interactions.

Strengths:

Overall, this study is well designed and executed. It provides the first comprehensive assessment of β-1,6-glucan as a dynamic, albeit underappreciated, molecule. The role of β-1,6-glucan genetics and biochemistry has been explored in molds like Aspergillus fumigatus, but this work shines important light on its role in Candida albicans. This is important work that is of value to Medical Mycology, since β-1,6-glucan plays more than just a structural role in the wall. It may serve as a PAMP and a potential modulator of host-pathogen interactions.

Weaknesses:

In keeping with an important role in immune recognition, it was suggested that the manuscript rigor would benefit from a more physiological evaluation ex vivo and preferably in vivo, assessment on stimulating the immune system within in the cell wall and not just as a purified component. This is a critical outcome measure for this study and gets squarely at its importance for host-pathogen interactions, especially in response to environmental stimuli and drug exposure. The authors addressed this issue contextually and indicate that it will require a more detailed immunologic evaluation but is not in keeping with the intent of this foundational study.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

This work presents CTFFIND5, a new version of the software for determination of the Contrast Transfer Function (CTF) that models the distortions introduced by the microscope in cryoEM images. CTFFIND5 can take acquisition geometry and sample thickness into consideration to improve CTF estimation.

To estimate tilt (tilt angle and tilt axis), the input image is split into tiles and correlation coefficients are computed between their power spectra and a local CTF model that includes the defocus variation according to a tilted plane. As a final step, by applying a rescaling factor to the power spectra of the tiles, an average tilt-corrected power spectrum is obtained used for diagnostic purposes and estimate the goodness of fit. This global procedure and the rescaling factor resemble those used in Bsoft, Warp, etc, with determination of the tilt parameters being a feature specific of CTFFIND5 (and formerly CTFTILT). The performance of the algorithm is evaluated with tilted 2D crystals and tilt-series, demonstrating accurate tilt estimation in general.

CTFFIND5 represents the first CTF determination tool that considers the thickness-related modulation envelope of the CTF firstly described by McMullan et al. (2015) and experimentally confirmed by Tichelaar et al. (2020). To this end, CTFFIND5 uses a new CTF model that takes the sample thickness into account. CTFFIND5 thus provides more accurate CTF estimation and, furthermore, gives an estimation of the sample thickness, which may be a valuable resource to judge the potential for high resolution. To evaluate the accuracy of thickness estimation in CTFFIND5, the authors use the Lambert-Beer law on energy-filtered data and also tomographic data, thus demonstrating that the estimates are reasonable for images with exposure around 30 e/A2. While consideration of sample thickness in CTF determination sounds ideally suited for cryoET, practical application under the standard acquisition protocols in cryoET (exposure of 3-5 e/A2 per image) is still limited. In this regard, the authors are precise in the conclusions and clearly identify the areas where thickness-aware CTF determination will be valuable at present: in situ single particle analysis and in vitro single particle cryoEM of large specimens (e.g. viral particles).

In conclusion, the manuscript introduces novel methods inside CTFFIND5 that improve CTF estimation, namely acquisition geometry and sample thickness. The evaluation demonstrates the performance of the new tool, with fairly accurate estimates of tilt axis, tilt angle and sample thickness and improved CTF estimation. The manuscript critically defines the current range of application of the new methods in cryoEM.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

This paper describes the latest version of the most popular program for CTF estimation for cryo-EM images: CTFFIND5. New features in CTFFIND5 are the estimation of tilt geometry, including for samples, like FIB-milled lamellae, that are pre-tilted along a different axis than the tilt axis of the tomographic experiment, plus the estimation of sample thickness from the expanded CTF model described by McMullan et al (2015). The results convincingly show the added value of the program for thicker and tilted images, such as are common in modern cryo-ET experiments. The program will therefore have a considerable impact on the field.

Comments on revised version:

My comments have been addressed adequately.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

In this study from Zhou, Wang, and colleagues, the authors utilize biventricular electromechanical simulations to illustrate how different degrees of ionic remodeling can contribute to different ECG morphologies that are observed in either acute or chronic post-myocardial infarction (MI) patients. Interestingly, the simulations show that abnormal ECG phenotypes - associated with higher risk of sudden cardiac death - are predicted to have almost no correspondence with left ventricular ejection fraction, which is conventionally used as a risk factor for arrhythmia.

Strengths:

The numerical simulations are state-of-the-art, integrating detailed electrophysiology and mechanical contraction predictions, which are often modeled separately. The population of ventricular simulations provide mechanistic interpretation, down to the level of single cell ionic current remodeling, for different types of ECG morphologies observed in post-MI patients. Collectively, these results demonstrate compelling and significant evidence for the need of incorporating additional risk factors for assessing post-MI patients.

The authors have addressed all of my previous concerns in this updated version.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

The authors constructed a multi-scale modeling and simulation methods to investigate the electrical and mechanical properties under acute and chronic myocardial infarction (MI). The simulated three acute MI conditions and two chronic MI conditions. They showed that these conditions gave rise to distinct ECG characteristics that have seen in clinical settings. They showed that the post-MI remodeling reduced ejection fraction up to 10% due to weaker calcium current or SR calcium uptake, but the reduction of ejection fraction is not sensitive to remodeling of the repolarization heterogeneities.

Strengths:

The major strength of this study is the construction of the computer modeling that simulates both electrical behavior and mechanical behavior for post-MI remodeling. The links of different heterogeneities due to MI remodeling to different ECG characteristics provide some useful information for understanding the complex clinical problems.

Weaknesses:

The rationale (e.g., physiological or medical bases) for choosing the 3 acute MI and 2 chronic MI settings is not clear. Although the authors presented a huge number of simulation data, in particular in the supplemental materials, it is not clearly stated what novel findings or mechanistic insights that this study gained beyond the current understanding of the problem.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

The article by Ryu and colleagues describes the circadian control of astrocytic intracellular calcium levels in vitro.

Strengths:

The authors used a variety of technical approaches that are appropriate and considerably improved the manuscript with experiments and more solid data analysis compared to the first version

Weaknesses:

Some conceptual issues are still present. This is a mechanistic paper done completely in vitro, all references to the in vivo situation are speculative and should be absolutely avoided unless the authors are citing in vivo work.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

This study provides significant insights into how the circadian clock influences astrocytic Ca2+ homeostasis. Astrocyte biology is an active area of research and this study is timely and adds to a growing body of literature in the field. This research highlights the potential importance of circadian rhythms in astrocytes, offering a new perspective on their role in central nervous system regulation.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

Madigan et al. assembled an interesting study investigating the role of the MuSK-BMP signaling pathway in maintaining adult mouse muscle stem cell (MuSC) quiescence and muscle function before and after trauma. Using a full body and MuSC-specific genetic knockout system, they demonstrate that MuSK is expressed on MuSCs and that eliminating the BMP binding domain from the MuSK gene (i.e., MuSK-IgG KO) in mice at homeostasis leads to reduced PAX7+ cells, increased myonuclear number, and increase myofiber size, which may be due to a deficit in maintaining quiescence. Additionally, after BaCl2 injury, MuSK-IgG KO mice display accelerated repair after 7 days post-injury (dpi) in males only. Finally, RNA profiling using nCounter technology showed that MuSK-IgG KO MuSCs express genes that may be associated with the activated state.

Strengths:

Overall, the biology regulating MuSC quiescence is still relatively unexplored, and thus, this work provides a new mechanism controlling this process. The experiments discussed in the paper are technically sound with great complementary mouse models (full body versus tissue-specific mouse KO) used to validate their hypothesis. Additionally, the paper is well written with all the necessary information in the legends, methods, and figures being reported.

Weaknesses:

While the data largely supports the author's conclusions, I do have a few points to consider when reading this paper.

(1) For Figure 1, while I appreciate the author's confirming MuSK RNA and protein in MuSCs, I do think they should (a) quantify the RNA using qPCR and (b) determine the percentage of MuSCs expressing MuSK protein in their single fiber system in multiple biological replicates. This information will help us understand if MuSK is expressed in 1/10 or 10/10 PAX7-expressing MuSCs. Also, it will help place their phenotypes into the right context, especially when considering how much of the PAX7-pool is expressing MuSK from the beginning.

(2) Throughout the paper the argument is made that MuSK-IgG KO (full body and MuSC-specific KOs) are more activated and/or break quiescence more readily, but there is no attempt to test directly. Therefore, the authors should consider measuring the activation dynamics (i.e., break from quiescence) of MuSCs directly (EdU assays or live-cell imaging) in culture and/or in muscle in vivo (EdU assays) using their various genetic mouse models.

(3) For Figure 2, given that mice are considered adults by 3 months, it is really surprising how just two months later they are starting to see a phenotype (i.e., reduced PAX7-cells, increased number of myonuclei, and increased myofiber size)-which correlates with getting older. Given that aged MuSCs have activation defects (i.e., stuck somewhere in the quiescence cycle), a pending question is whether their phenotype gets stronger in aged mice, like 18-24 months. If yes, the argument that this pathway should be used in a therapeutic sense would be strengthened.

(4) For Figure 4, the same question as in point (2), the increase in fiber sizes by 7dpi in MuSK-IgG KO males is minimal (going from ~23 to 27 by eye) and no difference at a later time point when compared to WT mice. However, if older mice are used (18-24 months old) - which are known to have repair deficits-will the regenerative phenotype in MuSK-IgG KO mice be more substantial and longer lasting?

(5) For Figure 6, this gene set is not glaringly obvious as being markers of MuSC activation (i.e., no MyoD), so it's hard for the readers to know if this gene set is truly an activation signature. Also, the Shcherbina et al. data presented as a column with * being up or down (i.e. differentially expressed) is not helpful, since you don't know whether those mRNAs in that dataset are going up with the activation process. Addressing this point as well as my point (1) will further strengthen the author's conclusions about the MuSK-IgG KO MuSCs not being able to maintain quiescence as effectively.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

The work by Madigan et al. provides evidence that the signaling of BMPs via the Ig3 domain of MuSK plays a role during muscle postnatal development and regeneration, ultimately resulting in enhanced contractile force generation in the absence of the MuSK Ig3 domain. They demonstrate that MuSK is expressed in satellite cells initially post-isolation of muscle single fibers both in WT and whole-body deletion of the BMP binding domain of MuSK (ΔIg3-MuSK). In mice, ΔIg3-MuSK results in increased muscle fiber size, a reduction in Pax7+ cells, and increased muscle contractile force in 5-month-old, but not 3-month-old, mice. These data are complemented by a model in which the kinetics of regeneration appear to be accelerated at early time points. Of note, the authors demonstrate muscle tibialis anterior (TA) weights and fiber feret are increased in a Pax7CreERT2;MuSK-Ig3loxp/loxp model in which satellite cells specifically lack the MuSK BMP binding domain. Finally, using Nanostring transcriptional the authors identified a short list of genes that differ between the WT and ΔIg3-MuSK SCs. These data provide the field with new evidence of signaling pathways that regulate satellite cell activation/quiescence in the context of skeletal muscle development and regeneration.

On the whole, the findings in this paper are well supported, however additional validation of key satellite cell markers and data analysis need to be conducted given the current claims.

(1) The Pax7CreERT2;MuSK-Ig3loxp/loxp model is the appropriate model to conduct studies to assess satellite cell involvement in MuSK/BMP regulation. Validation of changes to muscle force production is currently absent using this model, as is quantification of Pax7+ tdT+ cells in 5-month muscle. Given that MuSK is also expressed on mature myofibers at NMJs, these data would further inform the conclusions proposed in the paper.

(2) All Pax7 quantification in the paper would benefit from high magnification images including staining for laminin demonstrating the cells are under the basal lamina.

(3) The nanostring dataset could be further analyzed and clarified. In Figure 6b, it is not initially apparent what genes are upregulated or downregulated in young and aged SCs and how this compares with your data. Pathway analysis geared toward genes involved in the TGFb superfamily would be informative.

(4) Characterizing MuSK expression on perfusion-fixed EDL fibers would be more conclusive to determine if MuSK is expressed in quiescent SCs. Additional characterization using MyoD, MyoG, and Fos staining of SCs on EDL fibers would help inform on their state of activation/quiescent.

(5) Finally, the treatment of fibers in the presence or absence of recombinant BMP proteins would inform the claims of the paper.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

Summary:

Understanding the molecular regulation of muscle stem cell quiescence. The authors evaluated the role of the MuSK-BMP pathway in regulating adult SC quiescence by the deletion of the BMP-binding MuSK Ig3 domain ('ΔIg3-MuSK').

Strengths:

A novel mouse model to interrogate muscle stem cell molecular regulators. The authors have developed a nice mouse model to interrogate the role of MuSK signaling in muscle stem cells and myofibers and have unique tools to do this.

Weaknesses:

Only minor technical questions remain and there is a need for additional data to support the conclusions.

(1) The authors claim that dIg3-MuSK satellite cells break quiescence and start fusing, based on the reduction of Pax7+ and increase of nuclei/fiber (Fig 2-3), and maybe the gene expression (Fig6). However, direct evidence is needed to support these findings such as quantifying quiescent (Pax7+Ki67-) or activated (Pax7+Ki67+) satellite cells (and maybe proliferating progenitors Pax7-Ki67+) in the dIg3-MuSK muscle.

(2) It is not clear if the MuSK-BMP pathway is required to maintain satellite cell quiescence, by the end of the regeneration (29dpi), how Pax7+ numbers are comparable to the WT (Fig4d). I would expect to have less Pax7+, as in uninjured muscle. Can the authors evaluate this in more detail?

(2) Figure 4 claims that regeneration is accelerated, but to claim this at a minimum they need to look at MYH3+ fibers, in addition to fiber size.

(3) The Pax7 specific dIg3-MuSK (Fig5) is very exciting. However, it will be important to quantify the Pax7+ number. Could the authors check the reduction of Pax7+ in this model since it would confirm the importance of MuSK in quiescence?

(3) Rescue of the BMP pathway in the model would be further supportive of the authors' findings.

(4) Is the stem cell pool maintained long term in the deleted dIg3-MuSK SCs? Or would they be lost with extended treatment since they are reduced at the 5-month experiments? This is an important point and should be considered/discussed relevant to thinking about these data therapeutically.

(5) Without the Pax7-specific targeting, when you target dIg3-MuSK in the entire muscle, what happens to the neuromuscular nuclei?

(6) Why were differences seen in males and not females? Is XIST downregulation occurring in both sexes? Could the authors explain these findings in more detail?

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

The authors perform irCLIP of neuronal progenitor cells to profile eIF3-RNA interactions upon short-term neuronal differentiation. The data shows that eIF3 mostly interacts with 3'-UTRs - specifically, the poly-A signal. There appears to be a general correlation between eIF3 binding to 3'-UTRs and ribosome occupancy, which might suggest that eIF3 binding promotes protein synthesis, possibly through inducing mRNA closed-loop formation.

Strengths:

The study provides a wealth of new data on eIF3-mRNA interactions and points to the potential new concept that eIF3-mRNA interactions are polyadenylation-dependent and correlate with ribosome occupancy.

Weaknesses:

(1) A main limitation is the correlative nature of the study. Whereas the evidence that eIF3 interacts with 3-UTRs is solid, the biological role of the interactions remains entirely unknown. Similarly, the claim that eIF3 interactions with 3'-UTR termini require polyadenylation but are independent of poly(A) binding proteins lacks support as it solely relies on the absence of observable eIF3 binding to poly-A (-) histone mRNAs and a seeming failure to detect PABP binding to eIF3 by co-immunoprecipitation and Western blotting. In contrast, LC-MS data in Supplementary File 1 show ready co-purification of eIF3 with PABP.

(2) Another question concerns the relevance of the cellular model studied. irCLIP is performed on neuronal progenitor cells subjected to neuronal induction for 2 hours. This short-term induction leads to a very modest - perhaps 10% - and very transient 1-hour-long increase in translation, although this is not carefully quantified. The cellular phenotype also does not appear to change and calling the cells treated with differentiation media for 2 hours "differentiated NPCs" seems a bit misleading. Perhaps unsurprisingly, the minor "burst" of translation coincides with minor effects on eIF3-mRNA interactions most of which seem to be driven by mRNA levels. Based on the ~15-fold increase in ID2 mRNA coinciding with a ~5-fold increase in ribosome occupancy (RPF), ID2 TE actually goes down upon neuronal induction.

(3) The overlap in eIF3-mRNA interactions identified here and in the authors' previous reports is minimal. Some of the discrepancies may be related to the not well-justified approach for filtering data prior to assessing overlap. Still, the fundamentally different binding patterns - eIF3 mostly interacting with 5'-UTRs in the authors' previous report and other studies versus the strong preference for 3'-UTRs shown here - are striking. In the Discussion, it is speculated that the different methods used - PAR-CLIP versus irCLIP - lead to these fundamental differences. Unfortunately, this is not supported by any data, even though it would be very important for the translation field to learn whether different CLIP methodologies assess very different aspects of eIF3-mRNA interactions.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

The paper documents the role of eIF3 in translational control during neural progenitor cell (NPC) differentiation. eIF3 predominantly binds to the 3' UTR termini of mRNAs during NPC differentiation, adjacent to the poly(A) tails, and is associated with efficiently translated mRNAs, indicating a role for eIF3 in promoting translation.

Strengths:

The manuscript is strong in addressing molecular mechanisms by using a combination of next-generation sequencing and crosslinking techniques, thus providing a comprehensive dataset that supports the authors' claims. The manuscript is methodologically sound, with clear experimental designs.

Weaknesses:

(1) The study could benefit from further exploration into the molecular mechanisms by which eIF3 interacts with 3' UTR termini. While the correlation between eIF3 binding and high translation levels is established, the functionality of these interactions needs validation. The authors should consider including experiments that test whether eIF3 binding sites are necessary for increased translation efficiency using reporter constructs.

(2) The authors mention that the eIF3 3' UTR termini crosslinking pattern observed in their study was not reported in previous PAR-CLIP studies performed in HEK293T cells (Lee et al., 2015) and Jurkat cells (De Silva et al., 2021). They attribute this difference to the different UV wavelengths used in Quick-irCLIP (254 nm) and PAR-CLIP (365 nm with 4-thiouridine). While the explanation is plausible, it remains a caveat that different UV crosslinking methods may capture different eIF3 modules or binding sites, depending on the chemical propensities of the amino acid-nucleotide crosslinks at each wavelength. Without addressing this caveat in more detail, the authors cannot generalize their findings, and thus, the title of the paper, which suggests a broad role for eIF3, may be misleading. Previous studies have pointed to an enrichment of eIF3 binding at the 5' UTRs, and the divergence in results between studies needs to be more explicitly acknowledged.

(3) While the manuscript concludes that eIF3's interaction with 3' UTR termini is independent of poly(A)-binding proteins, transient or indirect interactions should be tested using assays such as PLA (Proximity Ligation Assay), which could provide more insights.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

Summary:

In this manuscript by Mestre-Fos and colleagues, authors have analyzed the involvement of eIF3 binding to mRNA during differentiation of neural progenitor cells (NPC). The authors bring a lot of interesting observations leading to a novel function for eIF3 at the 3'UTR.

During the translational burst that occurs during NPC differentiation, analysis of eIF3-associated mRNA by Quick-irCLIP reveals the unexpected binding of this initiation factor at the 3'UTR of most mRNA. Further analysis of alternative polyadenylation by APAseq highlights the close proximity of the eIF3-crosslinking position and the poly(A) tail. Furthermore, this interaction is not detected in Poly(A)-less transcripts. Using Riboseq, the authors then attempted to correlate eIF3 binding with the translation efficacy of mRNA, which would suggest a common mechanism of translational control in these cells. These observations indicate that eIF3-binding at the 3'UTR of mRNA, near the poly(A) tail, may participate to the closed-loop model of mRNA translation, bridging 5' and 3', and allowing ribosomes recycling. However, authors failed to detect interactions of eIF3, with either PABP or Paip1 or 40S subunit proteins, which is quite unexpected.

Strength:

The well-written manuscript presents an attractive concept regarding the mechanism of eIF3 function at the 3'UTR. Most mRNA in NPC seems to have eIF3 binding at the 3'UTR and only a few at the 5'end where it's commonly thought to bind. In a previous study from the Cate lab, eIF3 was reported to bind to a small region of the 3'UTR of the TCRA and TCRB mRNA, which was responsible for their specific translational stimulation, during T cell activation. Surprisingly in this study, the eIF3 association with mRNA occurs near polyadenylation signals in NPC, independently of cell differentiation status. This compelling evidence suggests a general mechanism of translation control by eIF3 in NPC. This observation brings back the old concept of mRNA circularization with new arguments, independent of PABP and eIF4G interaction. Finally, the discussion adequately describes the potential technical limitations of the present study compared to previous ones by the same group, due to the use of Quick-irCLIP as opposed to the PAR-CLIP/thiouridine.

Weaknesses:

(1) These data were obtained from an unusual cell type, limiting the generalizability of the model.

(2) This study lacks a clear explanation for the increased translation associated with NPC differentiation, as eIF3 binding is observed in both differentiated and undifferentiated NPC. For example, I find a kind of inconsistency between changes in Riboseq density (Figure 3B) and changes in protein synthesis (Figure 1D). Thus, the title overstates a modest correlation between eIF3 binding and important changes in protein synthesis.

(3) This is illustrated by the candidate selection that supports this demonstration. Looking at Figure 3B, ID2, and SNAT2 mRNA are not part of the High TE transcripts (in red). In contrast, the increase in mRNA abundance could explain a proportionally increased association with eIF3 as well as with ribosomes. The example of increased protein abundance of these best candidates is overall weak and uncertain.

(4) Despite several attempts (chemical and UV cross-linking) to identify eIF3 partners in NPC such as PABP, PAIP1, or proteins from the 40S, the authors could not provide any evidence for such a mechanism consistent with the closed-loop model. Overall, this rather descriptive study lacks mechanistic insight (eIF3 binding partners).

(5) Finally, the authors suspect a potential impact of technical improvement provided by Quick-irCLIP, that could have been addressed rather than discussed.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

The manuscript by Bohra et al. describes the indirect effects of ligand-dependent gene activation on neighboring non-target genes. The authors utilized single-molecule RNA-FISH (targeting both mature and intronic regions), 4C-seq, and enhancer deletions to demonstrate that the non-enhancer-targeted gene TFF3, located in the same TAD as the target gene TFF1, alters its expression when TFF1 expression declines at the end of the estrogen signaling peak. Since the enhancer does not loop with TFF3, the authors conclude that mechanisms other than estrogen receptor or enhancer-driven induction are responsible for TFF3 expression. Moreover, ERα intensity correlations show that both high and low levels of ERα are unfavorable for TFF1 expression. The ERa level correlations are further supported by overexpression of GFP-ERa. The authors conclude that transcriptional machinery used by TFF1 for its acute activation can negatively impact the TFF3 at peak of signaling but once, the condensate dissolves, TFF3 benefits from it for its low expression.

Strengths:

The findings are indeed intriguing. The authors have maintained appropriate experimental controls, and their conclusions are well-supported by the data.

Weaknesses:

There are some major and minor concerns that related to approach, data presentation and discussion. But I think they can be fixed with more efforts.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

In this manuscript by Bohra et al., the authors use the well-established estrogen response in MCF7 cells to interrogate the role of genome architecture, enhancers, and estrogen receptor concentration in transcriptional regulation. They propose there is competition between the genes TFF1 and TFF3 which is mediated by transcriptional condensates. This reviewer does not find these claims persuasive as presented. Moreover, the results are not placed in the context of current knowledge.

Strengths:

High level of ERalpha expression seems to diminish the transcriptional response. Thus, the results in Fig. 4 have potential insight into ER-mediated transcription. Yet, this observation is not pursued in great depth however, for example with mutagenesis of ERalpha. However, this phenomenon - which falls under the general description of non monotonic dose response - is treated at great depth in the literature (i.e. PMID: 22419778). For example, the result the authors describe in Fig. 4 has been reported and in fact mathematically modeled in PMID 23134774. One possible avenue for improving this paper would be to dig into this result at the single-cell level using deletion mutants of ERalpha or by perturbing co-activators.

Weaknesses:

There are concerns with the smRNA FISH experiments. It is highly unusual to see so much intronic signal away from the site of transcription (Fig. 2) (PMID: 27932455, 30554876) which suggests to me the authors are carrying out incorrect thresholding or have a substantial amount of labeling background. The Cote paper cited in the manuscript is likewise inconsistent with their findings and is cited in a misleading manner: they see splicing within a very small region away from the site of transcription.

One substantial way to improve the manuscript is to take a careful look at previous single cell analysis of the estrogen response, which in some cases has been done on the exact same genes (PMID: 29476006, 35081348, 30554876, 31930333). In some of these cases, the authors reach different conclusions than those presented in the present manuscript. Likewise, there have been more than a few studies which characterized these enhancers (the first one I know of is: PMID 18728018). Also, Oh et al. 2021 (cited in the manuscript) did show an interaction between TFF1e and TFF3, which seems to contradict the conclusion from Fig. 3. In summary, the results of this paper are not in dialog with the field, which is a major shortcoming.

In the opinion of this reviewer, there are few - if any - experiments to interrogate the existence of LLPS for diffraction limited spots such as those associated with transcription. This difficulty is a general problem with the field and not specific to the present manuscript. For example, transient binding will also appear as a dynamic 'spot' in the nucleus, independently of any higher order interactions. As for Fig. 5, I don't think treating cells with 1,6 hexanediol is any longer considered a credible experiment. For example, there are profound effects on chromatin independent of changes in LLPS (PMID: 33536240).

Summary:

In conclusion, I suggest that the authors look at alternative explanations and analyses -- many of which are experimentally and mathematically rigorous and pre-date the condensate model -- to explain their data.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

This work sets out to elucidate mechanistic intricacies in inflammatory responses in pneumonia in the context of aging process (Terc deficiency - telomerase functionality).

Strengths:

Very interesting, conceptually speaking, approach that is by all means worth pursuing. An overall proper approach to the posited aim.

Weaknesses:

The work is heavily underpowered and may have statistical deficits. This precludes at its current state drawing unequivocal conclusions.

I remain at my initial position regarding the weaknesses.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary

The authors demonstrate heightened susceptibility of Terc-KO mice to S. aureus-induced pneumonia, perform gene expression analysis from the infected lungs, find an elevated inflammatory (NLRP3) signature in some Terc-KO but not control mice, and some reduction in T cell signatures. Based on that, they conclude that dysregulated inflammation and T cell dysfunction play a major role in these phenomena.

The strengths of the work did not change, and include a problem not previously addressed (the role of Terc component of the telomerase complex) in certain aspects of resistance to bacterial infection and innate (and maybe adaptive) immune function.<br /> The weaknesses of this revised version still outweigh the strengths, because the authors did not substantially or experimentally answer the main criticism points, and have rather tried to argue away that which cannot be argued away. In summary, the most germane conclusions of this study remain plagued by flaws in experimental design, by lack of rigorous controls and by incomplete and inadequate approaches to testing of immune function.

I will devote the rest of the comments to the revised manuscript and its success or lack thereof in responding to prior criticisms. Prior criticisms are again listed below in italics, to provide context for the attempts of the investigators to respond.

(1) Reviewer 1 has justifiably criticized the exceptionally low power of the study, with 5 control and 3 experimental animals. The responding author has replied that the animal welfare laws preclude them from doing more experiments. That is unfortunate, and I sympathize with the authors. Nonetheless, in the absence of robust corroboration the rigor of the study remains severely compromised and the work is reduced to what I have pointed above - a preliminary and inconclusive study that is in need of deeper and more serious mechanistic investigation.

(2) Terc-KO mice are a genomic knockout model, and therefore the authors need to carefully consider the impact of this KO on a wide range of tissues. This, however, is not the case. There are no attempts to perform cell transfers, use irradiation chimera or crosses that would be informative.

In response to this criticism, the authors have quoted a whole bunch of papers characterizing different aspects of biology of these same mice. The most important paper in that regard would be the one by Matthe et al. on CD4 cells from these same mice. That study was limited and simply diagnosed in situ the changes in T cell pool, but did not decipher whether and to what extent such defects are cell-intrinsic or a byproduct of similarly altered microenvironments. Most importantly, none of that answers the original critique question of which cell types are truly the culprits in the Terc deletion phenotype presented here. As I indicated, one has to perform cell transfers, bone marrow irradiation chimera, additional genetic crosses and combinations thereof to substantiate whether the defects are ascribable to the lung tissue itself, the infiltrating myeloid cells, including macrophages, the T cells or a combination thereof. The authors provided none of this.

(3) Throughout the manuscript the authors invoke the role of telomere shortening in aging, and according to them their Terc-KO mice should be one potential model for aging. Yet the authors consistently describe major differences between young Terc-KO and naturally aging old mice, with no discussion of the implications. This further confuses the biological significance of this work as presented.

(4) Related to #2, group design for comparisons lacks a clear rationale. The authors stipulate that Terc-KO will mimic natural aging, but in fact, the only significant differences seen between groups in susceptibility to S. aureus are, contrary to the authors' expectation, between young Terc-KO and naturally old mice (Fig. 1A and B, no difference between young Terc-KO and young wt); or there are no significant differences at all between groups (Fig. 1, C, D,). I have also raised the issue of non-physiological nature of a germline Terc-KO, that does not mimic any known physiological or pathological state.<br /> The authors provided a non-response to this criticism. They argue in their response under (2) of their rebuttal that they included old mice as controls not for aging, because their experimental Terc-deletion mice were G3 and do not exhibit as much of a progeroid phenotype as G5 or G6 mice. But they still say in the revised formulation that these mice were infected "to explore the potential link to a fully developed aging phenotype". They just never conclude that no such link is substantiated by the vast majority of their data. Moreover, they come back to state in their response (4) that because the literature reported ".... reduction of Terc and Tert in tissues of old mice and rats. Therefore, as a potential immunomodulatory factor reduced Terc expression could be connected to age-related pathologies." So either they have used old mice here to compare aging phenotypes, and found that Terc-KO mice diverge massively from aging phenotypes, in which case they have to state so, or they are not using them as age comparators (in which case I am not sure what their purpose is).

(5) (originally part of criticism #4) I have criticized inadequate group design is when the authors begin dividing their Terc-KO groups by clinical score into animals with or without "systemic infection" (the condition where a bacterium spreads uncontrollably across the many organs and via blood, which should be properly called sepsis), and then compare this sepsis group to other groups (Suppl Fig. 1G; Fig. 2; lines 374-376 and 389-391). .... Most importantly, methodologically it is highly inappropriate to compare one mouse with sepsis to another one without. If Terc-KO mice with sepsis are a comparator group, then their controls have to be wild type mice with sepsis, who are dealing with the same high bacterial load across the body and are presumably forced to deploy the same set of immune defenses.<br /> The authors responded by making me aware of the 2016 JAMA definition of sepsis that invokes "a life-threatening organ dysfunction caused by a dysregulated host response to infection". I appreciate the correction, and note that in a human setting and globally, such a definition may make sense. The authors stated that bacteremia and not sepsis should be used as a criterion. I agree, and per my original criticism, believe it will be appropriate to compare bacteremic wt and KO mice.

(6) I am shortening my prior critique to make it more to the point that was not addressed: The authors conclude that disregulated inflammation and T cell dysfunction play a major role in S. aureus susceptibility. This may or may not be an important observation, because many KO mice are abnormal for a variety of reasons, and until such reasons are mechanistically dissected, the physiological importance of the observation will remain unclear. ....., the authors truly did not examine the key basic features of their model, including the features of basic and induced inflammatory and immune response. This analysis could be done either using model antigens in adjuvants, defined innate immune stimuli (e.g. TLR, RLR or NLR agonsists), or microbial challenge. The only data provided along these lines are the baseline frequencies of total T cells in the spleen of the three groups of mice examined (not statistically significant, Fig. 4B). We do not know if the composition of naïve to memory T cell subsets may have been different, and more importantly, we have no data to evaluate whether recruitment of the immune response (including T cells) to the lung upon microbial challenge is similar or different. So, what are the numbers and percentages of T cells and alveolar macrophages in the lung following S. aureus challenge and are they even comparable or are there issues in mobilizing the T cell response to the site of infection ? If, for example, Terc-KO mice do not mobilize enough T cells to the lung during infection, that would explain paucity in many T cell -associated genes in their transcriptomic set that they authors report. That in turn may not mean dysfunction of T cells but potentially a whole different set of defects in coordinating the response in Terc-KO mice.<br /> The authors did not respond to this criticism other than to provide more frequencies of different subsets. The key here are the NUMBERS of cells present at the peak of challenge, or better yet the kinetics of cell accumulation (again numbers), as well as transfer experiments to establish where the defect actually lies (mobilization, activation, proliferation, etc.).

(7) Related to that, immunological analysis is also inadequate. First, the authors pull signatures from the total lung tissue, which is both imprecise and potentially skewed by differences not in gene expression but in types of cells present and/or their abundance, a feature known to be affected by aging and perhaps by Terc deficiency during infection. Second, to draw any conclusions about immune responses, the authors would have to track antigen-specific T cells, which is possible for a wide range of microbial pathogens using peptide-MHC multimers. This would allow highly precise analysis of phenomena the authors are trying to conclude about. Moreover, it would allow them to confirm their gene expression data in populations of physiological interest.<br /> The authors agreed that this would be of interest but did nothing to provide it. They provided a sentence in the discussion stating that this (as well as many other experiments needed to interpret the results) would be of interest.

(8) Overall, the authors begun to address the role of Terc in bacterial susceptibility, but to what extent that specifically involves inflammation and macrophages, T cell immunity or aging remains unclear at the present.<br /> My conclusion from the prior review remains unchanged in the face of the revision that did not answer most of the previous criticism. The study as it stands is inconclusive and highly preliminary, with lack of clearly defined mechanistic underpinnings.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

The manuscript entitled "Staphylococcus aureus counters organic acid anion-mediated inhibition of peptidoglycan cross-linking through robust alanine racemase activity" by Panda, S et al. reports an extensive biochemical analysis of the result from a Tn screen that identified alr1 as being required for acetic acid tolerance. In the end, they demonstrate that reduced D-Ala pools in the ∆alr1 mutant lead to a drastic reduction in D-Ala-D-Ala dipeptide. They show that this is due to the ability of organic acid anions to limit the D-Ala-D-Ala ligase enzyme Ddl. They demonstrate that:

(1) Acetate exposure in the ∆alr1 results in reduced D-Ala-D-Ala dipeptide, but not the monomers.

(2) Acetate can bind to purified Ddl in vitro.

(3) This binding results in reduced enzyme activity.

(4) Other organic acid anions such as lactate, proprionate, and itaconitate can also inhibit Ddl.

The experiments are clearly described and logically laid out.

Comments on revised version:

Given that multiple reviewers noted that determining intracellular acetate levels would strengthen the impact of this manuscript, I still think the comment listed below should be dealt with. Radioactivity is not necessary for this. There are enzymatic kits that will allow for the accurate determination of acetate from a lysate of a known number of cells. This can be used to determine intracellular acetate levels.

(1) It is kind of tricky, but it is possible to measure intracellular acetate. That might be of interest to know where in the Ddl inhibition curve the cells actually are.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

In this manuscript, using Staphylococcus aureus as a model organism, Panda et al. aim to understand how organic acids inhibit bacterial growth. Through careful characterization and interdisciplinary collaboration, the authors present valuable evidence that acetic acid specifically inhibit the activity of Ddl enzyme that converts 2 D-alanine amino acids into D-ala-D-ala dipeptide, which is then used to generate the stem pentapeptide of peptidoglycan (PG) precursors in the cytoplasm. Thus, high concentration of acetic acid weakens the cell wall by limiting PG-crosslinking (which requires D-ala portion). However, S. aureus maintains a high intracellular D-ala concentration to circumvent acetate-mediated growth inhibition.

Strengths:

The authors utilized a well-established transposon mutant library to screen for mutants that struggle to grow in the presence of acetic acid. This screen allowed authors to identify that a strain lacking intact alr1, which encodes for alanine racemase (converts L-ala to D-ala), is unable to grow well in the presence of acetic acid. This phenotype is rescued by the addition of external D-ala. Next, the authors rule out the contribution of other pathways that could lead to the production of D-ala in the cell. Finally, by analyzing D-ala and D-ala-D-ala concentrations, as well as muropeptide intermediates accumulation in different mutants, the authors pinpoint Ddl as the specific target of acetic acid. In fact, synthetic overexpression of ddl alone overcomes the toxic effects of acetic acid. Using genetics, biochemistry, and structural biology, the authors show that Ddl activity is specifically inhibited by acetic acid and likely by other biologically relevant organic acids. Interestingly, this mechanism is different from what has been reported for other organisms such as Escherichia coli (where methionine synthesis is affected). It remains to be seen if this mechanism is conserved in other organisms that are more closely related to S. aureus, such as Clostridioides difficile and Enterococcus faecalis.

Weaknesses:

None noted. With new data the authors have satisfactorily addressed all the concerns of the previous version.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

The authors use fluorescence lifetime imaging (FLIM) and tmFRET to resolve resting vs. active conformational heterogeneity and free energy differences driven by cGMP and cAMP in a tetrameric arrangement of CNBDs from a prokaryotic CNG channel.

Strengths:

The data are excellent and provide detailed measures of the probability to adopt resting vs. activated conformations with and without bound ligands.

Weaknesses:

A limitation is that only the cytosolic fragments of the channel were studied.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

The authors investigated the conformational dynamics and energetics of the SthK Clinker/CNBD fragment using both steady-state and time-resolved transition metal ion Förster resonance energy transfer (tmFRET) experiments. To do so, they engineered donor-acceptor pairs at specific sites of the CNBD (C-helix and β-roll) by incorporating a fluorescent noncanonical amino acid donor and metal ion acceptors. In particular, the authors employed two cysteine-reactive metal chelators (TETAC and phenM). This allowed to coordinate three transition metals (Cu2+, Fe2+, and Ru2+) to measure both short (10-20 Å, Cu2+) and long distances (25-50 Å, Fe2+, and Ru2+). By measuring tmFRET with fluorescence lifetimes, the authors determined intramolecular distance distributions in the absence and presence of the full agonist cAMP or the partial agonist cGMP. The probability distributions between conformational states without and with ligands were used to calculate the changes in free energy (ΔG) and differences in free energy change (ΔΔG) in the context of a simple four-state model.

Overall, the work is conducted in a rigorous manner, and it is well-written.

In terms of methodology, this work provides a further support to steady-state and time-resolved tmFRET approaches previously developed by the authors of the present work to probe conformational rearrangements by using a fluorescent noncanonical amino acid donor (Anap) and transition metal ion acceptor (Zagotta et al., eLife 2021; Gordon et al., Biohpysical Journal 2024; Zagotta et al., Biohpysical Journal 2024).

For what concerns Cyclic nucleotide-binding domain (CNBD)-containing ion channels, the literature on this subject is vast and the authors of the present work have significantly contributed to the understanding of the allosteric mechanism governing the ligand-induced activation of CNBD-containing channels, including a detailed description of the energetic changes induced by ligand binding. Particularly relevant are their works based on DEER spectroscopy. In DeBerg et al., JBC 2016, the authors described, at atomic details, the conformational changes induced by different cyclic nucleotides on the HCN CNBD fragment and derived energetics associated with ligand binding to the CNBD (ΔΔG). In Collauto et al., Phys Chem Chem Phys. 2017, they further detailed the ligand-CNBD conformational changes by combining DEER spectroscopy with microfluidic rapid freeze quench to resolve these processes and obtain both equilibrium constants and reaction rates, thus demonstrating that DEER can quantitatively resolve both the thermodynamics and the kinetics of ligand binding and the associated conformational changes.<br /> In the revised manuscript the authors better framed their work in light of the literature by highlighting novelty and limitations, in particular the decision to work with the isolated Clinker/CNBD fragment and not with the full-length protein.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

Summary:

The manuscript by Eggan et al provides insights into conformational transitions in the cyclic nucleotide binding domain of a cyclic nucleotide-gated (CNG) channel. The authors use transition metal FRET (tmFRET) which has been pioneered by this lab and previously led to detailed insights into ion channel conformational changes. Here, the authors not only use steady-state measurements but also time-resolved, fluorescence lifetime measurements to gain detailed insights into conformational transitions within a protein construct that contains the cytosolic C-linker and cyclic nucleotide binding domain (CNBD) of a bacterial CNG channel. The use of time-resolved tmFRET is a clear advancement of this technique and a strength of this manuscript.

In summary, the present work introduces time-resolved tmFRET as a novel tool to study conformational distributions in proteins. This is a clear technological advance. The limitations of the truncated construct used in this study and how they relate to the energetics in full-length CNG channels are discussed. It will be interesting to see in the future how results compare to similar measurements on full-length channels, for example, reconstituted into nanodiscs.

Strengths:

The results capture known differences in promoting the open state between different ligands (cAMP and cGMP) and are consistent across three donor-acceptor FRET pairs. The calculated distance distributions are further in agreement with predicted values based on available structures. The finding that the C-helix is conformationally more mobile in the closed state as compared to the open state quantitatively increases our understanding of conformational changes in these channels.

Weaknesses:

The results describe movements of the C-helix in CNBDs, but detailed energetics as calculated in this study, need to be limited to the truncated protein construct. This is a weakness that cannot be overcome easily as it will require future experiments using the full-length channel.

The data only describe movements of the C-helix. Upon ligand binding, the C-helix moves upwards to coordinate the ligand. Thus, the results are ligand-induced conformational changes (as the title states). Allosteric regulation usually involves remote locations in the protein, which is applicable only in a limited fashion here.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

In this study, the authors developed a novel radiotherapy sensitivity score (NPC-RSS) for nasopharyngeal carcinoma patients using machine learning algorithms. They identified 18 key genes associated with radiosensitivity and demonstrated that NPC-RSS could effectively predict radiotherapy response in both public and in-house datasets. Furthermore, they found that the key genes of NPC-RSS were closely related to immune characteristics, the expression of radiosensitivity-related genes, and signaling pathways involved in disease progression. The authors validated the consistency of expression of two key genes, SMARCA2 and CD9, with NPC-RSS in their own cell lines. They also showed that the radiosensitive group, classified by NPC-RSS, exhibited a more enriched and activated state of immune infiltration compared to the radioresistant group.

Strengths:

(1) The study employed a comprehensive approach by integrating multiple machine learning algorithms to develop a robust predictive model for radiotherapy sensitivity in nasopharyngeal carcinoma patients.<br /> (2) The predictive performance of NPC-RSS was validated using both public and in-house datasets, demonstrating its potential clinical applicability.<br /> (3) The authors conducted extensive analyses to investigate the biological mechanisms underlying the association between NPC-RSS and radiotherapy response, including immune characteristics, radiosensitivity-related gene expression, and relevant signaling pathways.<br /> (4) The consistency of key gene expression with NPC-RSS was validated in the authors' own cell lines, providing additional experimental evidence.

Weaknesses:

(1) The sample size of the in-house dataset used for training the model was relatively small (34 patients), which might limit the generalizability of the findings.<br /> (2) The authors did not perform functional experiments to directly validate the roles of the identified key genes in radiotherapy sensitivity, relying instead on associations with immune features and signaling pathways.<br /> (3) The study did not discuss the potential limitations of using machine learning algorithms, such as the risk of overfitting and the need for larger, diverse datasets for more robust model development and validation.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

This article utilizes machine learning methods and transcriptomic data from nasopharyngeal carcinoma (NPC) patients to construct a biomarker called NPC-RSS that can predict the radiosensitivity of NPC patients. The authors further explore the biological mechanisms underlying the relationship between NPC-RSS and radiotherapy response in NPC patients. The main objective of this study is to guide the selection of radiotherapy strategies for NPC patients, thereby improving their clinical outcomes and prognosis.

Strengths:

(1) The combination of multiple machine learning algorithms and cross-validation was used to select the best predictive model for radiotherapy sensitivity from 71 differentially expressed genes, enhancing the robustness and reliability of the predictions.<br /> (2) Functional enrichment analysis revealed close associations between NPC-RSS key genes and immune characteristics, expression of radiotherapy sensitivity-related genes, and signaling pathways related to disease progression, providing a biological basis for NPC-RSS in predicting radiotherapy sensitivity.<br /> (3) Grouping NPC samples according to NPC-RSS showed that the radiotherapy-sensitive group exhibited a more enriched and activated state of immune infiltration compared to the radioresistant group. In single-cell samples, NPC-RSS was higher in the radiotherapy-sensitive group, with immune cells playing a dominant role. These results clarify the mechanism of NPC-RSS in predicting radiotherapy sensitivity from an immunological perspective.<br /> (4) The study used public datasets and in-house cohort data for validation, confirming the good predictive performance of NPC-RSS and increasing the credibility of the results.

Limitation:

(1) The study focuses on a specific type of nasopharyngeal carcinoma (NPC) and may not be generalizable to other subtypes or related head and neck cancers. The applicability of NPC-RSS to a broader range of patients and tumor types remains to be determined.<br /> (2) The study does not account for potential differences in radiotherapy protocols, doses, and techniques between the training and validation cohorts, which could influence the performance of the predictive model. Standardization of treatment parameters would be important for future validation studies.<br /> (3) The binary classification of patients into radiotherapy-sensitive and resistant groups may oversimplify the complex spectrum of treatment responses. A more granular stratification system that captures intermediate responses could provide more nuanced predictions and better guide personalized treatment decisions.<br /> (4) The study does not address the potential impact of other relevant factors, such as tumor stage, histological subtype, and concurrent chemotherapy, on the predictive performance of NPC-RSS. Incorporating these clinical variables into the model could enhance its accuracy and clinical utility.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

Intravital microscopy (IVM) is a powerful tool that facilitates live imaging of individual cells over time in vivo in their native 3D tissue environment. Extracting and analysing multi-parametric data from IVM images however is challenging, particularly for researchers with limited programming and image analysis skills. In this work, Rios-Jimenez and Zomer et al have developed a 'zero-code' accessible computational framework (BEHAV3D-Tumour Profiler) designed to facilitate unbiased analysis of IVM data to investigate tumour cell dynamics (via the tool's central 'heterogeneity module') and their interactions with the tumour microenvironment (via the 'large-scale phenotyping' and 'small-scale phenotyping' modules). It is designed as an open-source modular Jupyter Notebook with a user-friendly graphical user interface and can be implemented with Google Colab, facilitating efficient, cloud-based computational analysis at no cost.

To demonstrate the utility of BEHAV3D-TP, they apply the pipeline to timelapse IVM imaging datasets to investigate the in vivo migratory behaviour of fluorescently labelled DMG cells in tumour-bearing mice. Using the tool's 'heterogeneity module' they were able to identify distinct single-cell behavioural patterns (based on multiple parameters such as directionality, speed, displacement, and distance from tumour edge) which was used to group cells into distinct categories (e.g. retreating, invasive, static, erratic). They next applied the framework's 'large-scale phenotyping' and 'small-scale phenotyping' modules to investigate whether the tumour microenvironment (TME) may influence the distinct migratory behaviours identified. To achieve this, they combine TME visualisation in vivo during IVM (using fluorescent probes to label distinct TME components) or ex vivo after IVM (by large-scale imaging of harvested, immunostained tumours) to correlate different tumour behavioural patterns with the composition of the TME. They conclude that this tool has helped reveal links between TME composition (e.g. degree of vascularisation, presence of tumour-associated macrophages) and the invasiveness and directionality of tumour cells, which would have been challenging to identify when analysing single kinetic parameters in isolation.

A key limitation of the pipeline is that it does not overcome the main challenges and bottlenecks associated with processing and extracting quantitative cellular data from timelapse and longitudinal intravital images. This includes correcting breathing-induced movement artifacts, automated registration of longitudinal images taken over days/weeks, and accurate, automated segmentation and tracking of individual cells over time. Indeed, there are currently no standardised computational methods available for IVM data processing and analysis, with most laboratories relying on custom-built solutions or manual methods. This isn't made explicit in the manuscript early on (described below), and the researchers rely on expensive software packages such as IMARIS for image processing and data extraction to feed the required parameters into their pipeline. This limitation unfortunately reduces the likely impact of BEHAV3D-TP on the IVM field.

Nonetheless, this computational framework appears to represent a useful and comparatively user-friendly tool to analyse dynamic multi-parametric data to help identify patterns in cell migratory behaviours, and to assess whether these behaviours might be influenced by neighbouring cells and structures in their microenvironment. When combined with other methods, it, therefore, has the potential to be a valuable addition to a researcher's IVM analysis 'tool-box'.

Strengths:

(1) The figures are clearly presented, and the manuscript is easy to follow.

(2) The pipeline appears to be intuitive and user-friendly for researchers with limited computational expertise. A detailed step-by-step video is also included to support its uptake.

(3) The different computational modules have been tested using a relevant dataset.

(4) All code is open source, and the pipeline can be implemented with Google Colab.

(5) The tool combines multiple dynamic parameters extracted from time-lapse IVM images to identify single-cell behavioural patterns and to cluster cells into distinct groups sharing similar behaviours, and provides avenues to map these onto in vivo or ex vivo imaging data of the tumour microenvironment.

Weaknesses:

(1) As highlighted above, the tool does not facilitate the extraction of quantitative kinetic cellular parameters (e.g. speed, directionality, persistence, and displacement) from intravital images. Indeed, to use the tool researchers must first extract dynamic cellular parameters from their IVM datasets, requiring access to expensive software (e.g. IMARIS as used here) and/or above-average computational expertise to develop and use custom-made open-source solutions. This limitation is not made explicit or discussed in the text.

(2) The number of cells (e.g. per behavioural cluster), and the number of independent mice, represented in each result figure, is not included in the figure legends and are difficult to ascertain from the methods.

(3) The data used to test the pipeline in this manuscript is currently not available, making it difficult to assess its usability. It would be important to include this for researchers to use as a 'training dataset'.

(4) Precisely how the BEHAV3D-TP large-scale phenotyping module can map large-scale spatial phenotyping data generated using LSR-3D imaging data and Cytomap to 3D intravital imaging movies is unclear. Further details in the text and methods would be beneficial to aid understanding.

(5) The analysis provides only preliminary evidence in support of the authors' conclusions on DMG cell migratory behaviours and their relationship with components of the tumour microenvironment. Conclusions should therefore be tempered in the absence of additional experiments and controls.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:<br /> The authors produce a new tool, BEHAV3D to analyse tracking data and to integrate these analyses with large and small-scale architectural features of the tissue. This is similar to several other published methods to analyse spatiotemporal data, however, the connection to tissue features is a nice addition, as is the lack of requirement for coding. The tool is then used to analyse tracking data of tumour cells in diffuse midline glioma. They suggest that 7 clusters exist within these tracks and that they differ spatially. They ultimately suggest that these behaviours occur in distinct spatial areas as determined by CytoMAP.

Strengths:

(1) The tool appears relatively user-friendly and is open source. The combination with CytoMAP represents a nice option for researchers.

- The identification of associations between cell track phenotype and spatial features is exciting and the diffuse midline glioma data nicely demonstrates how this could be used.

Weaknesses:

(1) The strength of democratizing this kind of analysis is undercut by the reliance upon Imaris for segmentation, so it would be nice if this was changed to an open-source option for track generation.

(2) The main issue is with the interpretation of the biological data in Figure 3 where ANOVA was used to analyse the proportional distribution of different clusters. Firstly the n is not listed so it is unclear if this represents an n of 3 where each mouse is an individual or whether each track is being treated as a test unit. If the latter this is seriously flawed as these tracks can't be treated as independent. Also, a more appropriate test would be something like a Chi-squared test or Fisher's exact test. Also, no error bars are included on the stacked bar graphs making interpretation impossible. Ultimately this is severely flawed and also appears to show very small differences which may be statistically different but may not represent biologically important findings. This would need further study.

(3) Figure 4 has similar statistical issues in that the n is not listed and, again, it is unclear whether they are treating each cell track as independent which, again, would be inappropriate. The best practice for this type of data would be the use of super plots as outlined in Lord et al. (2020) JCI - SuperPlots: Communicating reproducibility and variability in cell biology.

(4) The main issue that this raises is that the large-scale phenotyping module and the heterogeneity module appear designed to produce these statistical analyses that are used in these figures and, if they are based on the assumption that each track is independent, then this will produce inappropriate analyses as a default.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

Summary:

The manuscript by Rios-Jimenez developed a computational tool, BEHAV3D Tumor Profiler, to analyze intravital imaging data and extract distinctive tumor cell migratory phenotypes based on the quantified 3D image data.

Weaknesses:

(1) The most challenging task of analyzing 3D time-lapse imaging data is to accurately segment and track the individual cells in 3D over a long time duration. BEHAV3D Tumor Profiler did not provide any new advancement in this regard, and instead relies on commercial software, Imaris, for this critical step. Imaris is known to have a very high error rate when used for analyzing 3D time-lapse data. In the Methods section, the authors themselves stated that "Tumor cell tracks were manually corrected to ensure accurate tracking". Based on our own experience of using Imaris, such manual correction is tedious and often required for every time step of the movie. Therefore, Imaris is not a satisfactory tool for analyzing 3D time-lapse data. Moreover, Imaris is expensive and many research labs probably can't afford to buy it. The fact that BEHAV3D Tumor Profiler critically depends on the faulty ImarisTrack module makes it unclear whether the BEHAV3D tool or the results are reliable.

(2) The authors developed a "Heterogeneity module" to extract distinctive tumor migratory phenotypes from the cell tracks quantified by Imaris. The cell tracks of the individual tumor cells are all quite short, indicating relatively low motility of the tumor cells. It's unclear whether such short migratory tracks are sufficient to warrant the PCA analysis to identify the 7 distinctive migratory phenotypes shown in Figure 2d. It's also unclear whether these 7 migratory phenotypes correspond to unique functional phenotypes.

(3) Using only motility to classify tumor cell behaviours in the tumor microenvironment (TME) is probably not sufficient to capture the tumor cell difference. There are also other non-tumor cell types in the TME. If the authors aim to develop a computational tool that can elucidate tumor cell behaviors in the TME, they should consider other tumor cell features, e.g., morphology, proliferation state, and tumor cell interaction with other cell types, e.g., fibroblasts and distinct immune cells.

(4) The authors have already published two papers on BEHAV3D [Alieva M et al. Nat Protoc. 2024 Jul;19(7): 2052-2084; Dekkers JF, et al. Nat Biotechnol. 2023 Jan;41(1):60-69]. Although the previous two papers used BEHAV3D to analyze T cells, the basic pipeline and computational steps are similar, in particular regarding cell segmentation and tracking. The addition of a "Heterogeneity module" based on PCA analysis does not make a significant advancement in terms of image analysis and quantification.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

This article identifies ADGR3 as a candidate GPCR for mediating beige fat development. The authors use human expression data from Human Protein Atlas and Gtex databases and combine this with experiments performed in mice and a murine cell line. They refer to a GPCR bioactivity screening tool PRESTO-Salsa, with which it was found that Hesperetin activates ADGR3. From their experiments, authors conclude that Hesperetin activates ADGR3, inducing a Gs-PKA-CREB axis resulting in adipose thermogenesis.

Strengths:

The authors analyze human data from public databases and perform functional studies in mouse models. They identify a new GPCR with a role in thermogenic activation of adipocytes.

Considerations:

Selection of ADGRA3 as a candidate GPCR relevant for mediating beiging in humans:

The authors identify GPCRs that are expressed more highly in murine iBAT compared to iWAT in response to cold and assess which of these GPCRs are expressed in human subcutaneous or visceral adipocytes. Although this strategy will identify GPCRs that are expressed at higher levels in brown fat compared to beige and thus possibly more active in thermogenic function, the relevance in choosing GPCRs that also are expressed in unstimulated human white adipocytes should be considered. Thermogenic activity is not normally present in human white adipocytes. It would have strengthened the GPCR selection if the authors instead had assessed the intersection with human brown adipocytes that were activated with norepinephrine.

Strategy to investigate the role of ADGRA3 in WAT beiging:

Having identified ADGRA3 as their candidate receptor, the authors investigated the receptor in mouse models, the murine inguinal adipocyte cell line 3T3 and in human subcutaneous adipose progenitors (HAdsc) differentiated in vitro. Calling the human cells "beige" is a stretch as these cells are derived from a white adipose depot. The authors do observe regulation in UCP1 and abundance of mitochondria following modification of ADGRA3 in the cells. However, in future studies, it should be considered if the receptor rather plays a role in differentiation per se, and perhaps not specifically in thermogenic differentiation/activity.

According to the Human Protein Atlas and Gtex databases, ADGRA3 is not only expressed in adipocytes, but also in other tissues and cell types. The authors address this by measuring the expression in a panel of these tissues, demonstrating a knockdown not only in the adipose tissue, but also in the liver and less pronounced in the muscle (Figure S2). It should thus be emphasized that the decreased TG levels in serum and liver in the mice might in fact depend on Adgra3 overexpression in the liver. Even though this might not have been the purpose of the experiment, it is important to highlight this as it could serve as hypothesis building for future studies of the function of this receptor.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Based on bioinformatics and expression analysis using mouse and human samples, the authors claim that the adhesion G-protein coupled receptor ADGRA3 may be a valuable target for increasing thermogenic activity and metabolic health. Genetic approaches to deplete ADGRA3 expression in vitro resulted in reduced expression of thermogenic genes including Ucp1, reduced basal respiration and metabolic activity as reflected by reduced glucose uptake and triglyceride accumulation. In line, nanoparticle delivery of shAdgra3 constructs is associated with increased body weight, reduced thermogenic gene expression in white and brown adipose tissue (WAT, BAT), and impaired glucose and insulin tolerance. On the other hand, ADGRA3 overexpression is associated with an improved metabolic profile in vitro and in vivo, which can be explained by increasing the activity of the well-established Gs-PKA-CREB axis. Notably, a computational screen suggested that ADGRA3 is activated by hesperetin. This metabolite is a derivative of the major citrus flavonoid hesperidin and has been described to promote metabolic health. Using appropriate in vitro and in vivo studies, the authors show that hesperitin supplementation is associated with increased thermogenesis, UCP1 levels in WAT and BAT, and improved glucose tolerance, an effect that was attenuated in the absence of ADGRA3 expression.

Comments on revised version:<br /> In my opinion, the critical points I raised were not adequately addressed, neither in the revision nor in the response to the reviewer. Therefore, my initial assessment has not changed, the main claims are only partially supported by the data presented.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

Summary:

The manuscript by Zhao et al. explored the function of adhesion G protein-coupled receptor A3 (ADGRA3) in thermogenic fat biology.

Strengths:

Through both in vivo and in vitro studies, the authors found that the gain function of ADGRA3 leads to browning of white fat and ameliorates insulin resistance.

Comments on revised version:

The revised manuscript by Zhao et al. has limited improvement. The authors refused to perform revised experiments using primary cultures even though two reviewers pointed out the same weakness (3T3-L1 adipocytes are unsuitable). Using infrared thermography to measure body temperature is also problematic.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

The mammalian Shieldin complex consisting of REV7 (aka MAD2L2, MAD2B) and SHLD1-3 affects pathway usage in DSB repair favoring non-homologous endjoining (NHEJ) at the expense of homologous recombination (HR) by blocking resection and/or priming fill-in DNA synthesis to maintain or generate near blunt ends suitable for NHEJ. While the budding yeast Saccharomyces cerevisiae does not have homologs to SHLD1-3, it does have Rev7, which was identified to function in conjunction with Rev3 in the translesion DNA polymerase zeta. Testing the hypothesis that Rev7 also affect DSB resection in budding yeast, the work identified a direct interaction between Rev7 and the Rad50-Mre11-Xrs2 complex by two-hybrid and direct protein interaction experiments. Deletion analysis identified that the 42 amino acid C-terminal region was necessary and sufficient for the 2-hybrid interaction. Direct biochemical analysis of the 42 aa peptide was not possible. Rev7 deficient cells were found to be sensitive to HU only in synergy with G2 tetraplex forming DNA. Importantly, the 42 aa peptide alone suppressed this phenotype. Biochemical analysis with full-length Rev7 and a C-terminal truncation lacking the 42 aa region shows G4-specific DNA binding that is abolished in the C-terminal truncation and with a substrate containing mutations to prevent G4 formation. Rev7 lacks nuclease activity but inhibits the dsDNA exonuclease activity of Mre11. The C-terminal truncation protein lacking the 42 aa region also showed some inhibition suggesting the involvement of additional binding sites besides the 42 aa region. Also, the Mre11 ssDNA endonuclease activity is inhibited by Rev7 but not the degradation of linear ssDNA. Rev7 does not affect ATP binding by Rad50 but inhibits in a concentration-dependent manner the Rad50 ATPase activity. The C-terminal truncation protein lacking the 42 aa region also showed some inhibition but significantly less than the full-length protein. Using an established plasmid-based NHEJ assay, the authors provide strong evidence that Rev7 affects NEHJ, showing a four-fold reduction in this assay. The mutations in the other Pol zeta subunits, Rev3 and Rev1, show a significantly smaller effect (~25% reduction). A strain expressing only the Rev7 C-terminal 42 aa peptide showed no NHEJ defect, while the truncation protein lacking this region exhibited a smaller defect than the deletion of REV7. The conclusion that Rev7 supports NHEJ mainly through the 42 aa region was validated using a chromosomal NHEJ assay. The effect on HR was assessed using a plasmid:chromosome system containing G4 forming DNA. The rev7 deletion strain showed an increase in HR in this system in the presence and absence of HU. Cells expressing the 42 aa peptide were indistinguishable from wild type as were cells expressing the Rev7 truncation lacking the 42 aa region. The authors conclude that Rev7 suppresses HR, but the context appears to be system-specific and the conclusion that Rev7 abolished HR repair of DSBs is unwarranted and overly broad.

Strength:

This is a well-written manuscript with well-executed experiments which suggest that Rev7 inhibits MRX-mediated resection to favor NEHJ during DSB repair. This finding is novel and provides insight into the potential mechanism of how the human Shieldin complex might antagonize resection.

Weaknesses:

The nuclease experiments were conducted using manganese as a divalent cation, and it is unclear whether there is an effect with the more physiological magnesium cation. The data largely support the conclusions, although the effect of Rev7 on HR is less well documented, as only a highly specialized assay is used that does not warrant the broad conclusion drawn. Specifically, the results that the Rev7 c-terminal truncation lacking the 42 aa region still suppresses HR is unexpected and unexplained.

In this revision the authors addressed most of my concerns by text revisions and addition of new data.

The new two hybrid data showing that the 42 amino acid segment interacts with MRN are valuable. However, it may not be clear to which subunit the 42 aa segment binds, as in the yeast 2H system the chromosomally encoded subunits are present or were the 2H experiments conducted in an MRN deletion background?. This could be acknowledged.

The material and methods section was updated to indicate use of 5 mM MnCl2 and 5 mM MgCl2 in the exonuclease assay but not the endonuclease assay. Please check if this is correct. Why the difference between both assays? There is a concern that the absence of ATP and Mg affects the endonuclease assay.

The addition of Dmc1 as a specificity control for the ATPase inhibition is nice and shows a specific effect. The use of Sae2 associated nuclease activity as a specificity control for the nuclease inhibition is problematic. There has been considerable debate about the Sae2 associated nuclease activity, which seems to have been solved by the Cejka lab showing that Sae2 is a cofactor of MRN without intrinsic nuclease activity (e.g. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25231868/). Or do the authors want to suggest that Sae2 has intrinsic nuclease activity? The control may still be useful mentioning that the nuclease is associated but not intrinsic and citing the relevant papers.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

In this study, Badugu et al investigate the Rev7 roles in regulating the Mre11-Rad50-Xrs2 complex and in metabolism of G4 structures. The authors also try to make a conclusion that REV7 can regulate the DSB repair choice between homologous recombination and non-homologous end joining.<br /> The major observations of this study are:

(1) Rev7 interacts with the individual components of the MRX complex in a two-hybrid assay and in a protein-protein interaction assay (microscale thermophoresisi) in vitro.<br /> (2) Modeling using AlphaFold-Multimier also indicated that Rev7 can interact with Mre11 and Rad50.<br /> (3) Using a two-hybrid assay, a 42 C terminal domain in Rev7 responsible for the interaction with MRX was identified.<br /> (4) Rev7 inhibits Mre11 nuclease and Rad50 ATPase activities in vitro.<br /> (5) Rev 7 promotes NHEJ in plasmid cutting/relegation assay.<br /> (6) Rev7 inhibits recombination between chromosomal ura3-1 allele and plasmid ura3 allele containing G4 structure.<br /> (7) Using an assay developed in V. Zakian's lab, it was found that rev7 mutants grow poorly when both G4 is present in the genome and yeast are treated with HU.<br /> (8) In vitro, purified Rev7 binds to G4-containing substrates.

In general, a lot of experiments have been conducted, but the major conclusion about the role of Rev7 in regulating the choice between HR and NHEJ is not justified.

(1) Two stories that do not overlap (regulation of MRX by Rev7 and Rev7 role in G4 metabolism) are brought under one umbrella in this work. There is no connection unless the authors demonstrate that Rev7 inhibits the cleavage of G4 structures by the MRX complex.

(2) The authors cannot conclude based on the recombination assay between G4-containing 2-micron plasmid and chromosomal ura3-1 that Rev7" completely abolishes DSB-induced HR". First of all, there is no evidence that DSBs are formed at G4. Why is there no induction of recombination when cells are treated with HU? Second, as the authors showed, Rev7 binds to G4, therefore it is not clear if the observed effects are the result of Rev7 interaction with G4 or impact on HR. The established HO-based assays where the speed of resection can be monitored (e.g., Mimitou and Symington, 2010) have to be used to justify the conclusion that Rev7 inhibits MRX nuclease activity in vivo.

Comments on the revised version:

I am satisfied with the revision. Specifically, i) the elimination of the G4 part and ii) the implementation of the HO-endonuclease resection assay described in Mimiou and Symington, 2010 significantly improved the clarity of the work and strengthened the conclusion about the Rev7 interference with DNA resection.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

Summary:

REV7 facilitates the recruitment of Shieldin complex and thereby inhibits end resection and controls DSB repair choice in metazoan cells. Puzzlingly, Shieldin is absent in many organisms, and it is unknown if and how Rev7 regulates DSB repair in these cells. The authors surmised that yeast Rev7 physically interacts with Mre11/Rad50/Xrs2 (MRX), the short-range resection nuclease complex and tested this premise using yeast two hybrid (Y2H) and microscale thermophoresis (MST). The results convincingly showed that the individual subunits of MRX interacts robustly with Rev7. By AlphaFold Multimer modelling followed by Y2H confirmed that the carboxy terminal 42 amino acid is essential for interaction with MR and G4 DNA binding by REV7. The mutant rev7 lacking the binding interface (Rev7-C1) to MR shows moderate inhibition to the nuclease and the ATPase activity of Mre11/Rad50 in biochemical assays. Deletion of REV7 also causes a mild reduction in NHEJ using both plasmid and chromosome-based assays and increases mitotic recombination between chromosomal ura3-01 and the plasmid ura3 allele interrupted by G4. The revision also showed that rev7 deleted cells exhibit mild hyper-resection phenotype at 0.7 and 3 kb from the DSB using qPCR assays. The authors concluded that Rev7 facilitates NHEJ and antagonises HR even in budding yeast, but it achieves this by blocking Mre11 nuclease and Rad50 ATPase.

Weaknesses:

There are several strengths to the studies and the broad types of well-established assays were used to deduce the conclusion. Nevertheless, there are notable discrepancies on the mutant phenotypes that were to test the functionality of Rev7-MRX interaction on the repair outcomes, raising concerns on the validity of the proposed model. The manuscript also needs a few additional functional assays to reach the accurate conclusions as proposed. The revision responded to several comments raised by the reviewers, but they are inadequate to address the key concerns and did not offer sufficient and compelling experimental support to the main premise that Rev7-Mre11/Rad50/Xrs2 interactions regulate MRX activities in cells and thereby modulates DSB repair choice in budding yeast.

(1) AlphaFold model predicts that Mre11-Rev7 and Rad50-Rev7 binding interfaces overlap and Rev7 might bind only to Mre11 or Rad50 at a time. Interestingly, however, Rev7 appears dimerized (Fig.1). Since MR complex also forms with 2M and 2R in the complex, it should still be possible if REV7 can interact both M and R in the MR complex. The author should perform MST using MR complex instead of individual MR components. The authors should also analyze if Rev7-C1 is indeed deficient in interaction with MR individually and with complex using MST assay.

(2) The nuclease and the ATPase assays require additional controls. Does Rev7 inhibit the other nuclease or ATPase non-specifically? Are these outcomes due to the non-specific or promiscuous activity of Rev7? In fig.6, the effect of REV7 on the ATP binding of Rad50 could be hard to assess because the maximum Rad50 level (1 uM) was used in the experiments. The author should use the suboptimal level of Rad50 to check if REV7 still does not influence ATP binding by Rad50.

(3) The moderate deficiency in NHEJ using plasmid based assay in REV7 deleted cells can be attributed to aberrant cell cycle or mating type in rev7 deleted cells. The authors should demonstrate that rev7 deleted cells retain largely normal cell cycle pattern and the mating type phenotypes. The author should also analyze the breakpoints in plasmid based NHEJ assays in all mutants especially from rev7 and rev7-C1 cells.

(4) It is puzzling why the authors did not analyze end resection defects in rev7 deleted cells after a DSB. The author should employ the widely used resection assay after a HO break in rev3, rev7 and mre11 rev7 cells as described previously.

(5) Is it possible that Rev7 also contributes to NHEJ as the part of TLS polymerase complex? Although NHEJ largely depends on Pol4, the authors should not rule out the possibility if the observed NHEJ defect in rev7 cells are due at least partially to its well-known TLS defect and not all due to their role in MRX activity regulation as the authors proposed. In fact, rev3 or rev1 cells are partially defective in NHEJ (Fig. 7). Rev7-C1 is less deficient in NHEJ than REV7 deletion. These results predict that rev7-C1 rev3 could be more deficient than rev3 or rev7-C1, and such results might indicate that Rev7 contributes to NHEJ by two ways; one by interacting (and modulating) MRX and the other as part of Rev3-Rev7 complex. Additionally, the authors should examine if Rev7-C1 might be deficient in TLS. In this regard, does rev7-C1 reduce TLS and TLS dependent mutagenesis? Is it dominant? The authors should also check if Rev3/Rev1 complexes are stable in Rev7 deleted or rev7-C1 cells by immunoblot assays.

(6) Due to the G4 DNA and G4 binding activity of REV7, it is not clear which class of events the authors are measuring in plasmid-chromosome recombination assay in Fig.9. Do they measure G4 instability or the integrity of recombination or both in rev7 deleted cells. Instead, the effect of rev7 deletion or rev7-C1 on recombination should be measured directly by more standard mitotic recombination assays like mating type switch or his3 repeat recombination. The revision did not address these concerns, which still makes the interpretation of the provided recombination results difficult.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Papalamprou et al. established a methodology to differentiate iPSCs to the syndetome stage and validated it by marker gene expression and scRNA-seq analysis. They further found that inhibition of WNT signaling enhanced the homogeneity of the cell population after identifying a group of branching-off cells that overexpressed WNT. Their results will be helpful in developing cell therapy systems for tendon injuries. However, there are several issues to improve the manuscript:

IPA analysis was performed after scRNA-seq. Although it is knowledge-based software with convenient graphic utilities, it is questionable whether an unbiased genome-level analysis was performed. Therefore, it is not convincing if WNT is the only and best signal for the branching-off marker. Perhaps independent approaches, such as GO, pathway, or module analyses, should be performed to validate the findings.

According to the method section, two iPSC lines were used for the study. However, throughout the manuscript, it is not clearly described which line was used for which experiment. Did they show similar efficiency in differentiation and in responses to WNTi? It is also worrisome if using only two lines is the norm in the stem cell field. Please provide a rationale for using only two lines, which will restrict the observation of individual-specific differential responses throughout the study.

How similar are syndetome cells with or without WNTi? It would be interesting to check if there are major DEGs that differentiate these two groups of cells.

Please discuss the improvement of the current study compared to previous ones (e.g., PMID 36203346, 35083031, 35372337).

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

Dr. Sheyn and colleagues report the step-wise induction of syndetome-like cells from human induced pluripotent stem cells (iPSCs), following a previously published protocol which they adjusted. The progression of the cells through each stage, i.e. presomitic mesoderm (PSM), somitic mesoderm (SM), sclerotome (SCL), and syndetome (SYN)) is characterized using FACS, RT-qPCR and immunofluorescence staining (IF). The authors performed also single-cell RNA sequencing (scRNAseq) analysis of their step-wise induced cells and identify signaling pathways which are potentially involved in and possibly necessary for syndetome induction. They then optimized their protocol by simultaneous inhibition of BMP and Wnt signaling pathways, which lead to an increase in syndetome induction while inhibiting off target differentiation into neural lineages.

Strengths:

The authors conducted scRNAseq analysis of each step of their protocol from iPSCs to syndetome-like cells and employed pathway analysis to uncover further insights into somitic mesoderm (SM) and syndetome (SYN) differentiation. They found that BMP inhibition, in conjunction with the inhibition of WNT signaling, plays a role in driving syndetome differentiation. Analyzing their scRNAseq results, they could improve the syndetome induction efficiency of their protocol from 47.6% to 67%-78% while off-target differentiation into neural lineages could be reduced.

Weaknesses:

The authors demonstrated the efficiency of syndetome induction solely by scRNA-seq data analysis before and after pathway inhibition, without using e.g. FACS analysis or immunofluorescence (IF)-staining based assessment. A functional assessment and validation of the induced cells is also completely missing.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

Papalamprou et al sought to fine tune existing tenogenic differentiation protocols to develop a robust multi-step differentiation protocol to induce tendon cells from human GMP-ready iPSCs. In so doing, they found that while existing protocols are capable of driving cells towards a syndetome-like fate, the resultant cultures contain highly heterogeneous cell populations with sub-optimal cell survival. Through single cell transcriptomic analysis they identify WNT signaling as a potential driver of an off-target neural population and show that inhibition of WNT signaling at the later 2 stages of differentiation can be used to promote higher efficiency of generation of syndetome-like cells.

This paper includes a useful paradigm for identifying transcriptional modulators of cell fate during differentiation and a clear example where transcriptional data can be used to guide the chemical modulation of a differentiation protocol to improve cell output. The paper's conclusions are mostly well supported by the data, but the image analysis and discussion need to be improved to strengthen the impact.

The data outlining the differences between the differentiation outcome of the two tested iPSCs is intriguing, but the authors fail to comment on potential differences between the two iPSC lines that could result in drastically different cell outputs from the same differentiation protocol. This is a critically important point, as the majority of the SCX+ cells generated from the 007i cells using their WNTi protocol were found in the FC subpopulation that failed to form from the 83i line under the same protocol. From the analysis of only these 2 cells lines in vitro, it is difficult to assess whether this WNTi protocol can be broadly used across multiple cell lines to generate tenogenic cells. The authors failed to update the text of the manuscript to reflect the potential differences in the two cell lines and the general applicability of their protocol, but rather just include the description of the proposed explanation in the response to reviewer comments. These critical differences in the response to their protocol and their implications for the applications of this proof-of-concept study should be included in the main text.

The authors make claims about changes in protein expression but fail to quantify either fluorescence intensity or percent cell expression from their immunofluorescence analyses to substantiate these claims. The authors state in their response to reviewers that immunofluorescence is qualitative but continue to make quantitative statements such as upregulated or downregulated in both the text and legend describing these images. The authors should either perform the quantification of the IFs, use Western blots for protein quantification of their cell cultures, use Flow Cytometry to count cell numbers, or remove these quantitative words from the description of the images. The image quality and staining specificity continue to be a limitation of this study. These claims are not fully supported by the data as presented as it is unclear whether there is increased expression of tendon markers at the protein level or more cells surviving the protocol.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

The authors want to elucidate which are the mechanisms that regulate the immune response in physiological conditions in cortical development. To achieve this goal, authors used a wide range of mutant mice to analyse the consequences of immune activation in the formation of cortical ectopia in mice.

Strengths:

The authors demonstrated that Abeta monomers are anti-inflammatory and inhibit microglial activation. This is a novel result that demonstrates the physiological role of APP in cortical development.

The current manuscript has been slightly improved by additional experiments and editing of the text (many of the suggestions of the reviewers have not been included). However, the evidence supporting the conclusions of the study is still very weak and inconsistent.

Remaining weaknesses:

-There is no evidence that microglia express Emx1. The paper they referred (Zhang et al., 2014) was performed in adult mice so it is not comparable. Moreover, many other papers are saying that Emx1 is not expressed in microglia. Line 175: change in cytokine expression is not a strong evidence to state that Emx1 is expressed in microglia. Fig. S8: It is not clear whether the staining was performed on neuronal primary culture or cortical section? It is also unclear why there is a partial reduction of Ric8a mRNA levels in Emx1-Ric8a cKO and not a completed deletion?

-NestinCre and Emx1Cre mouse models are targeting the same type of cells in the developing cortex (cortical progenitors, glutamatergic neurons and astrocytes), but with one day difference in expression (Emx1 E9.5 and Nestin E10.5). In fact, previous studies using the same approach (Nestin-Ric8a cKO) found ectopias in the cortex, it is more in line with the results of Emx1-Ric8a cKO shown in the current study. There is no evidence to assume that ric8a deficiency in neural cell lineages is not responsible for basement membrane degradation and ectopia formation in ric8a mutants.

-Additional experiments should be performed to demonstrate that ectopia formation in Emx1-ric8a cKO mutant mice is due to an increase in immune stimulation and not a cell-autonomous effect. Using double cx3cr1-cre and nestin-cre ric8a mutant mice is not an argument to say that elevated immune activation of ric8a deficient microglia during cortical development is responsible for ectopia formation (line 2012-2013)

-The similarities between Ric8a cKO and APP cKO mice are not enough evidence to claim that APP and Ric8a are involved in the same anti-inflammatory pathway in microglia.

-Gel zymography is not the same as Western blot. For the quantification of the relative amount of protein, authors should use western blot and not immunofluorescence intensity as shown in Fig. 5g, h. For western blot, you also load the same amount of protein but you have to normalize your samples with a control protein.

-The graph of BrdU cell distribution in the mutant mice (Fig. S1 F) shows that there are more BrdU cells in bins 5-7 and less in bin 9, indicating an impaired migration of upper cortical neurons in the mutant mice. The authors claimed there are no differences in migration in the result section but the figure showed significant differences. Panels E, F in Fig S2 show the density of Cux1 and Ctip2 cells per area indicating no changes in the generation of upper and lower cortical neurons, but no information about the migration as authors claimed (lines 117-118). (what is the field for Ctip2 counting?). These experiments cannot rule out the possibility of cell-autonomous effect of Ric8a deletion in glutamatergic neurons or radial glial cells.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Kwon et al. used several conditional KO mice for the deletion of ric8a or app in different cell types. Some of them exhibited pial basement membrane breaches leading to neuronal ectopia in the neocortex.

I am glad to see that the authors performed some of the requested controls.

However, a huge problem with this manuscript which has been highlighted in the reviewer's comments but not corrected by the authors, is the claim that "A novel monomeric amyloid beta-activated signaling pathway regulates brain development". They do not have any proof that Abeta is the activating signal in vivo. Whatever they showed in vitro should be confirmed in vivo to make such a strong claim. The authors even recognized it in their responses to reviewers: "we currently do not have evidence that in the developing cortex Abeta monomers play a role in inhibiting microglia". Therefore, their title is misleading, not supported by the data, and must be changed to reflect accurately the results. Maybe something like "Involvement of microglia in the formation of cortical ectopia".

The abstract is also misleading and must be changed. The abstract is mostly about Abeta, pretending that this is the key part of their findings while they only provide a few in vitro experiments but nothing in vivo.<br /> This is such a bad way to summarize their data. Most of their in vivo data is about Ric8a, then a smaller in vivo part about APP and nothing about Abeta in vivo. But the title "novel monomeric amyloid beta-activated signaling pathway regulates brain development via inhibition of microglia" only mention Abeta. And the Abstract 90% focuses on Abeta.<br /> The first half of the introduction is about Abeta. Why would they focus their paper about Abeta while they basically have only one figure with in vitro data !! This is so deceptive.<br /> It seems that these authors do not fully understand the importance of having their claims supported by solid data.

(1) The authors did not show in vivo data supporting that Abeta monomers are the key players here.<br /> (2) The authors did not show in vivo data supporting the cytokine secretion data provided in vitro in a model system. They claim that it is not technically feasible to extract the extracellular (secreted) fractions of cytokines from an embryonic brain without causing cell lysis and the release of the intracellular pool. But how about RT-qPCR? After all, they showed that the pathway affects the transcription of several cytokines in microglia in vitro.<br /> (3) The authors did not provide a control experiment to show that the insult induced by LPS injection does not induce the phenotype in the ric8a-foxg1-cre mice.<br /> (4) They did not agree to verify the monomer state of their Abeta monomer preparation, even after addition to the culture medium. Abeta have a strong tendency to polymerize. However, because the authors added the requested result with Ab polymers which gave a different outcome. It is OK with me if they don't do it.<br /> (5) The app-cx3cr1-cre +LPS animals show ectopia only in only subsets of mutants and in most cases only in one of the hemispheres. Experiments examining potential changes in MMP9 are therefore difficult and were not done.

I don't mind the inability to perform all the suggestions from the reviewers but it is then necessary to tone down or remove the claims that are not supported by the data.<br /> This kind of issue appears several times later in the text too:

(1) At the end of the introduction "we found that APP and Ric8a form a pathway in microglia that is specifically activated by the monomeric form of Abeta and that this pathway normally inhibits the transcriptional and post-transcriptional expression of immune cytokines by microglia". Data from Abeta and cytokines are only in vitro, so it has to be specified.<br /> (2) Line 282: "Thus, these results indicate that monomeric Abeta possesses a previously unreported anti-inflammatory activity against microglia that strongly inhibits microglial inflammatory activation". Specify in vitro!<br /> (3) Line 322: "We have shown that heightened microglial activation due to mutation in the Abeta monomer-activated APP/Ric8a pathway results in basement membrane degradation and ectopia during cortical development." This is an overstatement. They did not show that Abeta monomers activate the pathway in vivo.<br /> (4) Line 332: "Thus, these results indicate that excessive inflammatory activation of microglia is responsible for ectopia formation in ric8a mutants." This is incorrect. Inhibition of Akt or stat3 does much more than just being pro-inflammatory. This could affect directly migration. The data only show that Akt and/or Stat3 might be involved.<br /> (5) Line 355: "these results indicate this Abeta monomer-regulated anti-inflammatory pathway normally promotes cortical development through suppressing microglial activation and MMP induction.". Another overstatement. There is no proof that Abeta is involved in vivo.<br /> (6) Line 362: "In this article, we have identified a novel microglial anti-inflammatory pathway activated by monomeric Abeta that inhibits microglial cytokine expression and plays essential roles in the normal development of the cerebral cortex". Another overstatement. There is no proof that Abeta is involved in vivo.<br /> (7) Line 365: "this pathway is mediated by APP and the heterotrimeric G protein GEF and molecular chaperone Ric8a in microglia and its activation leads to..." They should mention that its activation was in vitro.<br /> (8) Line 387: "In this study, we have shown that immune over-activation of microglia deficient in a monomeric Ab-regulated pathway results in excessive cortical matrix proteinase activation, leading basement membrane degradation and neuronal ectopia." Another overstatement. There is no support to claim that Abeta is involved in vivo. The immune overactivation was not shown in vivo but only in vitro in a model system that does not even reflect correctly what is happening in vivo due to chronic immune stimulation during in vitro culture.<br /> (9) Line 396: "we have also shown that the anti-inflammatory regulation of microglia in corticogenesis depends on a pathway composed of APP and the heterotrimeric G protein regulator Ric8a." Overstatement. They only showed the anti-inflammatory regulation in vitro and not during corticogenesis.<br /> It is just a matter of rewriting the title, abstract and text in an honest way, in order to make sure that every claim is supported by the data and in some cases acknowledge the weakness of the provided data and describe the multiple interpretations than could be drawn out of them.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

The authors describe the dynamic distribution of laminin γ1 in the olfactory system and forebrain. Using immunohistochemistry and transgenic lines, they found that the olfactory system and adjacent brain tissues are enveloped by basement membrane (BMs) from the earliest stages of olfactory system assembly. They also found that laminin deposits follow the axonal trajectory of axons. They performed a functional analysis of the sly mutant to analyse the function of laminin γ1 in the development of the zebrafish olfactory system. Their study revealed that laminin enables the shape and position of olfactory placodes to be maintained late in the face of major morphogenetic movements in the brain, and its absence promotes the local entry of sensory axons into the brain and their navigation towards the olfactory bulb.

They showed that in the laminin γ1 mutants no BM staining of laminin could be detected around the OP and the brain. The authors then elegantly used electron microscopy to analyse the ultrastructure of the border between the OP and the brain.<br /> The authors performed a quantitative analysis of the loss of function of Laminin γ1 (sly mutants).<br /> Olfactory axon migration is drastically impaired in sly mutants, demonstrating that Laminin γ1-dependent BMs are essential for the growth and navigation of axons from the OP to the olfactory bulb. They propose that the BM of the OP prevents its deformation in response to mechanical forces generated by morphogenetic movements of the neighbouring brain.<br /> Although the results are expected, the experiments carried out and the results are robust and elegant.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

This manuscript addresses the role of extracellular matrix in olfactory development. Despite the importance of these extracellular structures, the specific roles and activities of matrix molecules are still poorly understood. Here, the authors combine live imaging and genetics to examine the role of the laminin gamma 1 in multiple steps of olfactory development. The work comprises a descriptive but carefully executed, quantitative assessment of the olfactory phenotypes resulting from loss of laminin gamma 1. Overall, this is a constructive advance in our understanding of extracellular matrix contributions to olfactory development, with a well-written Discussion with relevance to many other systems.

Strengths:

The strengths of the manuscript are in the approaches: the authors have combined live imaging, careful quantitative analyses, and molecular genetics. The work presented takes advantage of many zebrafish tools including mutants and transgenics to directly visualize the laminin extracellular matrix in living embryos during the developmental process.

Weaknesses:

Weaknesses in the first round of critique were addressed in the revision, and a minor caveat is regarding interpretation of differences in tissue size and shape in fixed samples (comparing mutants and controls); the fixation process can alter these properties and may do so differently between genotypes.

Reviewer #4 (Public review):

Summary:

In this elegant study XX and colleagues use a combination of fixed tissue analyses and live imaging to characterise the role of Laminin in olfactory placode development and neuronal pathfinding in the zebrafish embryo. They describe Laminin dynamics in the developing olfactory placode and adjacent brain structures and identify potential roles for Laminin in facilitating neuronal pathfinding from the olfactory placode to the brain. To test whether Laminin is required for olfactory placode neuronal pathfinding they analyse olfactory system development in a well-established laminin-gamma-1 mutant, in which the laminin-rich basement membrane is disrupted. They show that while the OP still coalesces in the absence of Laminin, Laminin is required to contain OP cells during forebrain flexure during development and maintain separation of the OP and adjacent brain region. They further demonstrate that Laminin is required for growth of OP neurons from the OP-brain interface towards the olfactory bulb. The authors also present data describing that while the Laminin mutant has partial defects in neural crest cell migration towards the developing OP, these NCC defects are unlikely to be the cause of the neuronal pathfinding defects upon loss of Laminin. Altogether the study is extremely well carried out, with careful analysis of high-quality data. Their findings are likely to be of interest to those working on olfactory system development, or with an interest in extracellular matrix in organ morphogenesis, cell migration, and axonal pathfinding.

Strengths:

The authors describe for the first time Laminin dynamics during the early development of the olfactory placode and olfactory axon extension. They use an appropriate model to perturb the system (lamc1 zebrafish mutant), and demonstrate novel requirements for Laminin in pathfinding of OP neurons towards the olfactory bulb.<br /> The study utilises careful and impressive live imaging to draw most of its conclusions, really drawing upon the strengths of the zebrafish model to investigate the role of laminin in OP pathfinding. This imaging is combined with deep learning methodology to characterise and describe phenotypes in their Laminin-perturbed models, along with detailed quantifications of cell behaviours, together providing a relatively complete picture of the impact of loss of Laminin on OP development.

Weaknesses:

Some of the statistical tests are performed on experiments where n=2 for each condition (for example the measurements in Figure S2) - in places the data is non-significant, but clear trends are observed, and one wonders whether some experiments are under-powered.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

Jirouskova and colleagues in their study have carried out an in-depth proteomic characterization of the dynamics of the liver fibrotic response and the resulting resolution in two distinct models of liver injury: CCl4-induced model of hepatotoxicity and pericentral/bridging liver fibrosis and the DDC feeding model of obstructive cholestasis and periportal fibrosis. They focussed on both the insoluble extracellular matrix (ECM) components as well as the soluble secreted factors produced by hepatic stellate cells (HSCs) and/or portal fibroblasts (PFs). They identified compartment- and time-resolved proteomic signatures in the two models with disease-specific factors or matrisomes. Their study also identified phenotypic differences between the models such as that while the CCl4-induced model induced profound hepatotoxicity followed by resolution, the DDC model induced more lasting liver damage and proteomic changes that resembled advanced human liver fibrosis favouring hepatocarcinogenesis.

Overall, this comprehensive and very well-conducted study is rigorous and well-planned. The conclusions are supported by compelling studies and analyses. One caveat is the lack of mechanistic experiments to prove causality, but this can be carried out in follow-up studies.

Strengths:

(1) A major strength of the study is that the experiments are rigorous and very well conducted. For instance, the authors utilized two models of liver fibrosis to study different aspects of the pathology - hepatotoxicity vs cholestasis. In addition, 4 time points for each model were investigated - 2 for fibrosis development and 2 for fibrosis resolution. They have taken 3 components for proteomic analyses - total lysates, insoluble ECM components as well as the soluble secreted factors. Thus, the authors provide a comprehensive overview of the fibrosis and resolution process in these models.

(2) Another great strength of the study is that the methodology utilized was able to dissect unique pathways relevant to each model as well as common targets. For example, the authors identified known pathways such as mTOR signalling to be differentially regulated in the CCl4 vs DDC model. mTOR signalling was increased in the DDC model which is associated with hyperproliferation. Thus showing that the approach taken is specific enough to distinguish between the two similar (both induce fibrosis) but distinct mechanisms (hepatotoxicity vs cholestasis) is a strong point of the study.

Weaknesses:

(1) The authors themselves propose in their Introduction that the "ECM-associated changes are increasingly perceived as causative, rather than consequential"; however, they have not conducted mechanistic (gain of function/loss of function) studies either in vitro or in vivo from any of their identified targets to truly prove causality. This remains one of the limitations of this study. Thus, future studies should investigate this point in detail. For instance, it would have been intriguing to dissect if knocking out specific genes involved in one specific model or genes common to both would yield distinct phenotypic outcomes.

(2) The majority of the conclusions are derived primarily from the proteomic analyses. Although well conducted, it would strengthen the study to corroborate some of the major findings by other means such as IHC/IF with the corresponding quantifications and not only representative images.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

The authors suggest that ECM abundance and composition change depending on the aetiology of liver fibrosis. To understand this they have investigated the proteome in two models of animal fibrosis and resolution. They suggest their findings could provide a foundation for future anti-fibrotic therapies.

Strengths:

The animal models used are widely studied models of liver fibrosis from both parenchymal and biliary damage aspects. Both would allow analysis of resolution. The CCl4 model in particular fully reverts to a 'healthy' liver following cessation of the insult. I am less clear whether/how quickly the ductal plugs clear in DDC models and thus this may not provide the response they are looking for in terms of reversibility. I believe there have been several extensive studies using a transcriptomics approach in assessing genes and cells involved in the CCl4 model of resolution. Even more mutliomic models of general fibrosis progression in many of the mouse models of fibrosis. However, the proteomic approach they have used is robust and they have made some attempts to integrate with cell-type specific signatures from previously published data.

Although there is minimal data, hepatocyte elasticity is a very interesting part of their study. Additional data and focussed attention on the mechanisms underpinning this would be very insightful.

Weaknesses:

As it currently stands, the data, whilst extensive, is primarily focussed on the proteomic data which is fairly descriptive and I am not clear on the additional insight gained in their approach that is not already detailed from the extensive transcriptomic studies. The manuscript overall would benefit from some mechanistic functional insight to provide new additional modes of action relevant to fibrosis progression. Whilst there is some human data presented it is a minimal analysis without quantification that would imply relevance to disease state.

Although studying disease progression in animals is a fundamental aspect of understanding the full physiological response of fibrotic disease, without more human insight makes any analysis difficult to fulfil their suggestion that these targets identified will be of use to treat human disease.

Some of the terminology is incorrect while discussing these models of injury used and care should be taken. For example - both models are toxin-induced and I do not think these data have any support that the DDC model has a higher carcinogenic risk. An investigation into the tumour-induced risk would require significant additional models. These types of statements are incorrect and not supported by this study.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

The manuscript consists of two separate but interlinked investigations: genomic epidemiology and virulence assessment of Salmonella Dublin. ST10 dominates the epidemiological landscape of S. Dublin, while ST74 was uncommonly isolated. Detailed genomic epidemiology of ST10 unfolded the evolutionary history of this common genotype, highlighting clonal expansions linked to each distinct geography. Notably, North American ST10 was associated with more antimicrobial resistance compared to others. The authors also performed long-read sequencing on a subset of isolates (ST10 and ST74) and uncovered a novel recombinant virulence plasmid in ST10 (IncX1/IncFII/IncN). Separately, the authors performed cell invasion and cytotoxicity assays on the two S. Dublin genotypes, showing differential responses between the two STs. ST74 replicates better intracellularly in macrophages compared to ST10, but both STs induced comparable cytotoxicity levels. Comparative genomic analyses between the two genotypes showed certain genetic content unique to each genotype, but no further analyses were conducted to investigate which genetic factors were likely associated with the observed differences. The study provides a comprehensive and novel understanding of the evolution and adaptation of two S. Dublin genotypes, which can inform public health measures.

The methodology included in both approaches was sound and written in sufficient detail, and data analysis was performed with rigour. Source data were fully presented and accessible to readers. Certain aspects of the manuscript could be clarified and extended to improve the manuscript.

(1) For epidemiology purposes, it is not clear which human diseases were associated with the genomes included in this manuscript. This is important since S. Dublin can cause invasive bloodstream infections in humans. While such information may be unavailable for public sequences, this should be detailed for the 53 isolates sequenced for this study, especially for isolates selected to perform experiments in vitro.

(2) The major AMR plasmid in described S. Dublin was the IncC associated with clonal expansion in North America. While this plasmid is not found in the Australian isolates sequenced in this study, the reviewer finds that it is still important to include its characterization, since it carries blaCMY-2 and was sustainedly inherited in ST10 clade 5. If the plasmid structure is already published, the authors should include the accession number in the Main Results.

(3) The reviewer is concerned that the multiple annotations missing in<br /> (a) plasmid structures in Supplementary Figures 5 & 6, and<br /> (b) genetic content unique to ST10 and ST74 was due to insufficient annotation by Prokka. I would recommend the authors use another annotation tool, such as Bakta (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8743544/) for plasmid annotation, and reconstruction of the pangenome described in Supplementary Figure 10. Since the recombinant virulence plasmid in ST10 is a novel one, I would recommend putting Supplementary Figure 5 as a main figure, with better annotations to show the virulence region, plasmid maintenance/replication, and possible conjugation cluster.

(4) The authors are lauded for the use of multiple strains of ST10 and ST74 in the in vitro experiment. While results for ST74 were more consistent, readouts from ST10 were more heterogenous (Figure 5, 6). This is interesting as the tested ST10 were mostly clade 1, so ST10 was, as expected, of lower genetic diversity compared to tested ST74 (partly shown in Figure 1D. Could the authors confirm this by constructing an SNP table separately for tested ST10 and ST74? Additionally, the tested ST10 did not represent the phylogenetic diversity of the global epidemiology, and this limitation should be reflected in the Discussion.

(5) The comparative genomics between ST10 and ST74 can be further improved to allow more interpretation of the experiments. Why were only SPI-1, 2, 6, and 19 included in the search for virulome, how about other SPIs? ST74 lacks SPI-19 and has truncated SPI-6, so what would explain the larger genome size of ST74? Have the authors screened for other SPIs using more well-annotated databases or references (S. Typhi CT18 or S. Typhimurium ST313)? The mismatching between in silico prediction of invasiveness and phenotypes also warrants a brief discussion, perhaps linked to bigger ST74 genome size (as intracellular lifestyle is usually linked with genome degradation).

(6) On the epidemiology scale, ST10 is more successful, perhaps due to its ongoing adaptation to replication inside GI epithelial cells, favouring shedding. ST74 may tend to cause more invasive disease and less transmission via fecal shedding. The presence of T6SS in ST10 also can benefit its competition with other gut commensals, overcoming gut colonization resistance. The reviewer thinks that these details should be more clearly rephrased in the Discussion, as the results highly suggested different adaptations of two genotypes of the same serovar, leading to different epidemiological success.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

This is a comprehensive analysis of Salmonella Dublin genomes that offers insights into the global spread of this pathogen and region-specific traits that are important to understanding its evolution. The phenotyping of isolates of ST10 and ST74 also offers insights into the variability that can be seen in S. Dublin, which is also seen in other Salmonella serovars, and reminds the field that it is important to look beyond lab-adapted strains to truly understand these pathogens. This is a valuable contribution to the field. The only limitation, which the authors also acknowledge, is the bias towards S. Dublin genomes from high-income settings. However, there is no selection bias; this is simply a consequence of publically available sequences.

Joint Public Review:

Following up on their previous work, the authors investigated whether cell-to-cell transmission of HIV-1 activates the CARD8 inflammasome in macrophages, an important question given that inflammasome activation in myeloid cells triggers proinflammatory cytokine release. The data support the idea that CARD8 is activated by the viral protease and promotes inflammation. However, time-course analyses in primary T cells and macrophages and further information on the specific inflammasome involved would further increase the significance of the study.

Strengths:

The manuscript is well-written and the data is of good quality. The evidence that CARD8 senses the HIV-1 protease in the context of cell-to-cell transmission is important since cell-to-cell transmission is thought to play a key role in viral spread in vivo, and inflammation is a major driver of disease progression. Clean knockout experiments in primary macrophages are a notable strength and the results clearly support the role of CARD8 in protease-dependent sensing of viral spread and the induction of IL1β release and cell death. The finding that HIV-1 strains are resistant to protease inhibitors differ in CARD8 activation and IL1β production is interesting and underscores the potential clinical relevance of these results.

Weaknesses:

One weakness is that the authors used T cell lines which might not faithfully reflect the efficiency of HIV-1 production and cell-cell transfer by primary T cells. To assess whether CARD8 is also activated by protease from incoming viral particles earlier time points should be analyzed. Finally, while the authors exclude the role of NLRP3 in IL-1b and the death of macrophages it would be interesting to know whether the effect is still Gasdermin D dependent.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

The authors test whether the archerfish can modulate the fast response to a falling target. By manipulating the trajectory of the target, they claim that the fish can modulate the fast response. While it is clear from the result that the fish can modulate the fast response, the experimental support for the argument that the fish can do it for a reflex-like behavior is inadequate.

Strengths:

Overall, the question that the authors raised in the manuscript is interesting.

Weaknesses:

(1) The argument that the fish can modulate reflex-like behavior relies on the claim that the archerfish makes the decision in 40 ms. There is little support for the 40 ms reaction time. The reaction time for the same behavior in Schlegel 2008, is 60-70 ms, and in Tsvilling 2012 about 75 ms, if we take the half height of the maximum as the estimated reaction time in both cases. If we take the peak (or average) of the distribution as an estimation of reaction time, the reaction time is even longer. This number is critical for the analysis the authors perform since if the reaction time is longer, maybe this is not a reflex as claimed. In addition, mentioning the 40 ms in the abstract is overselling the result. The title is also not supported by the results.

(2) A critical technical issue of the stimulus delivery is not clear. The frame rate is 120 FPS and the target horizontal speed can be up to 1.775 m/s. This produces a target jumping on the screen 15 mm in each frame. This is not a continuous motion. Thus, the similarity between the natural system where the target experiences ballistic trajectory and the experiment here is not clear. Ideally, another type of stimulus delivery system is needed for a project of this kind that requires fast-moving targets (e.g. Reiser, J. Neurosci.Meth. 2008). In addition, the screen is rectangular and not circular, so in some directions, the target vanishes earlier than others. It must produce a bias in the fish response but there is no analysis of this type.

(3) The results here rely on the ability to measure the error of response in the case of a virtual experiment. It is not clear how this is done since the virtual target does not fall. How do the authors validate that the fish indeed perceives the virtual target as the falling target? Since the deflection is at a later stage of the virtual trajectory, it is not clear what is the actual physics that governs the world of the experiment. Overall, the experimental setup is not well designed.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

This manuscript studies prey capture by archer fish, which observe the initial values of motion of aerial prey they made fall by spitting on them, and then rapidly turn to reach the ballistic landing point on the water surface. The question raised by the article is whether this incredibly fast decision-making process is hardwired and thus unmodifiable or can be adjusted by experience to follow a new rule, namely that the landing point is deflected from a certain amount of the expected ballistic landing point. The results show that the fish learn the new rule and use it afterward in a variety of novel situations that include height, side, and speed of the prey, and which preserve the speed of the fish's decision. Moreover, a remarkable finding presented in this work is the fact that fish that have learned to use the new rule can relearn to use the ballistic landing point for an object based on its shape (a triangle) while keeping simultaneously the 'deflected rule' for an object differing in shape (a disc); in other words, fish can master simultaneously two decision-making rules based on the different shape of objects.

Strengths:

The manuscript relies on a sophisticated and clever experimental design that allows changing the apparent landing point of a virtual prey using a virtual reality system. Several robust controls are provided to demonstrate the reliability and usefulness of the experimental setup.

Overall, I very much like the idea conveyed by the authors that even stimuli triggering apparently hardwired responses can be relearned in order to be associated with a different response, thus showing the impressive flexibility of circuits that are sometimes considered mediating pure reflexive responses. This is the case - as an additional example - of the main component of the Nasanov pheromone of bees (geraniol), which triggers immediate reflexive attraction and appetitive responses, and which can, nevertheless, be learned by bees in association with an electric shock so that bees end up exhibiting avoidance and the aversive response of sting extension to this odorant (1), which is a fully unnatural situation, and which shows that associative aversive learning is strong enough to override preprogrammed responding, thus reflecting an impressive behavioral flexibility.

Weaknesses:

As a general remark, there is some information that I missed and that is mandatory in the analysis of behavioral changes.

Firstly, the variability in the performances displayed. The authors mentioned that the results reported come from 6 fish (which is a low sample size). How were the individual performances in terms of consistency? Were all fish equally good in adjusting/learning the new rule? How did errors vary according to individual identity? It seems to me that this kind of information should be available as the authors reported that individual fish could be recognized and tracked (see lines 620-635) and is essential for appreciating the flexibility of the system under study.

Secondly, the speed of the learning process is not properly explained. Admittedly, fish learn in an impressive way the new rule and even two rules simultaneously; yet, how long did they need to achieve this? In the article, Figure 2 mentions that at least 6 training stages (each defined as a block of 60 evaluated turn decisions, which actually shows that the standard term 'Training Block' would be more appropriate) were required for the fish to learn the 'deflected rule'. While this means 360 trials (turning starts), I was left with the question of how long this process lasted. How many hours, days, and weeks were needed for the fish to learn? And as mentioned above, were all fish equally fast in learning? I would appreciate explaining this very important point because learning dynamics is relevant to understanding the flexibility of the system.

Reference:

(1) Roussel, E., Padie, S. & Giurfa, M. Aversive learning overcomes appetitive innate responding in honeybees. Anim Cogn 15, 135-141, doi:10.1007/s10071-011-0426-1 (2012).

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

This is an interesting manuscript tackling the issue of whether subcircuits of the cerebellum are differentially involved in processes of motor performance, learning, or learning consolidation. The authors focus on cerebellar outputs to the ventrolateral thalamus (VL) and to the centrolateral thalamus (CL), since these thalamic nuclei project to the motor cortex and striatum respectively, and thus might be expected to participate in diverse components of motor control and learning. In mice challenged with an accelerating rotarod, the investigators reduce cerebellar output either broadly, or in projection-specific populations, with CNO targeting DREADD-expressing neurons. They first establish that there are not major control deficits with the treatment regime, finding no differences in basic locomotor behavior, grid test, and fixed-speed rotarod. This is interpreted to allow them to differentiate control from learning, and their inter-relationships. These manipulations are coupled with chronic electrophysiological recordings targeted to the cerebellar nuclei (CN) to control for the efficacy of the CNO manipulation. I found the manuscript intriguing, offering much food for thought, and am confident that it will influence further work on motor learning consolidation. The issue of motor consolidation supported by the cerebellum is timely and interesting, and the claims are novel. There are some limitations to the data presentation and claims, highlighted below, which, if amended, would improve the manuscript.

(1) Statistical analyses: There is too little information provided about how the Deming regressions, mean points, slopes, and intercepts were compared across conditions. This is important since in the heart of the study when the effects of inactivating CL- vs VL- projecting neurons are being compared to control performance, these statistical methods become paramount. Details of these comparisons and their assumptions should be added to the Methods section. As it stands I barely see information about these tests, and only in the figure legends. I would also like the authors to describe whether there is a criterion for significance in a given correlation to be then compared to another. If I have a weak correlation for a regression model that is non-significant, I would not want to 'compare' that regression to another one since it is already a weak model. The authors should comment on the inclusion criteria for using statistics on regression models.

(2) The introduction makes the claim that the cerebellar feedback to the forebrain and cortex are functionally segregated. I interpreted this to mean that the cerebellar output neurons are known to project to either VL or CL exclusively (i.e. they do not collateralize). I was unaware of this knowledge and could find no support for the claim in the references provided (Proville 2014; Hintzer 2018; Bosan 2013). Either I am confused as to the authors' meaning or the claim is inaccurate. This point is broader however than some confusion about citation. The study assumes that the CN-CL population and CN-VL population are distinct cells, but to my knowledge, this has not been established. It is difficult to make sense of the data if they are entirely the same populations, unless projection topography differs, but in any event, it is critical to clarify this point: are these different cell types from the nuclei?; how has that been rigorously established?; is there overlap? No overlap? Etc. Results should be interpreted in light of the level of this knowledge of the anatomy in the mouse or rat.

(3) It is commendable that the authors perform electrophysiology to validate DREADD/CNO. So many investigators don't bother and I really appreciate these data. Would the authors please show the 'wash' in Figure 1a, so that we can see the recovery of the spiking hash after CNO is cleared from the system? This would provide confidence that the signal is not disappearing for reasons of electrode instability or tissue damage/ other.

(4) I don't think that the "Learning" and "Maintenance" terminology is very helpful and in fact may sow confusion. I would recommend that the authors use a day range " Days 1-3 vs 4-7" or similar, to refer to these epochs. The terminology chosen begs for careful validation, definitions, etc, and seems like it is unlikely uniform across all animals, thus it seems more appropriate to just report it straight, defining the epochs by day. Such original terminology could still be used in the Discussion, with appropriate caveats.

(5) Minor, but, on the top of page 14 in the Results, the text states, "Suggesting the presence of a 'critical period' in the consolidation of the task". I think this is a non-standard use of 'critical period' and should be removed. If kept, the authors must define what they mean specifically and provide sufficient additional analyses to support the idea. As it stands, the point will sow confusion.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

This study examines the contribution of cerebello-thalamic pathways to motor skill learning and consolidation in an accelerating rotarod task. The authors use chemogenetic silencing to manipulate the activity of cerebellar nuclei neurons projecting to two thalamic subregions that target the motor cortex and striatum. By silencing these pathways during different phases of task acquisition (during the task vs after the task), the authors report valuable findings of the involvement of these cerebellar pathways in learning and consolidation.

Strengths:

The experiments are well-executed. The authors perform multiple controls and careful analysis to solidly rule out any gross motor deficits caused by their cerebellar nuclei manipulation. The finding that cerebellar projections to the thalamus are required for learning and execution of the accelerating rotarod task adds to a growing body of literature on the interactions between the cerebellum, motor cortex, and basal ganglia during motor learning. The finding that silencing the cerebellar nuclei after a task impairs the consolidation of the learned skill is interesting.

Weaknesses:

While the controls for a lack of gross motor deficit are solid, the data seem to show some motor execution deficit when cerebellar nuclei are silenced during task performance. This deficit could potentially impact learning when cerebellar nuclei are silenced during task acquisition. Separately, I find the support for two separate cerebello-thalamic pathways incomplete. The data presented do not clearly show the two pathways are anatomically parallel. The difference in behavioral deficits caused by manipulating these pathways also appears subtle.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

Summary:

Varani et al present important findings regarding the role of distinct cerebellothalamic connections in motor learning and performance. Their key findings are that:<br /> (1) cerebellothalamic connections are important for learning motor skills<br /> (2) cerebellar efferents specifically to the central lateral (CL) thalamus are important for short-term learning<br /> (3) cerebellar efferents specifically to the ventral anterior lateral (VAL) complex are important for offline consolidation of learned skills, and<br /> (4) that once a skill is acquired, cerebellothalamic connections become important for online task performance.

The authors went to great lengths to separate effects on motor performance from learning, for the most part successfully. While one could argue about some of the specifics, there is little doubt that the CN-CL and CN-VAL pathways play distinct roles in motor learning and performance. An important next step will be to dissect the downstream mechanisms by which these cerebellothalamic pathways mediate motor learning and adaptation.

Strengths:

(1) The dissociation between online learning through CN-CL and offline consolidation through CN-VAL is convincing.

(2) The ability to tease learning apart from performance using their titrated chemogenetic approach is impressive. In particular, their use of multiple motor assays to demonstrate preserved motor function and balance is an important control.

(3) The evidence supporting the main claims is convincing, with multiple replications of the findings and appropriate controls.

Weaknesses:

(1) Despite the care the authors took to demonstrate that their chemogenetic approach does not impair online performance, there is a trend towards impaired rotarod performance at higher speeds in Supplementary Figure 4f, suggesting that there could be subtle changes in motor performance below the level of detection of their assays.

(2) There is likely some overlap between CN neurons projecting to VAL and CL, somewhat limiting the specificity of their conclusions.

Reply to @Edmund https://forum.zettelkasten.de/discussion/comment/21907/#Comment_21907

Doto's book is the best and tightest yet for explaining both how to implement a Luhmann-artig zettelkasten as well as why along with the affordances certain elements provide. He does a particularly good job of providing clear and straightforward definitions which have a muddy nature in some of the online spaces, which tends to cause issues for people new to the practice. Sadly, for me, there isn't much new insight due to the amount of experience and research I bring to the enterprise.

I do like that Doto puts at least some emphasis on why one might want to use alphanumerics even in digital spaces, an idea which has broadly been sidelined in most contexts for lack of experience or concrete affordances for why one might do it.

The other area he addresses, which most elide and the balance gloss over at best, is that of the discussion of using the zettelkasten for output. Though he touches on some particular methods and scaffolding, most of it is limited to suggestions based on his own experience rather than a broader set of structures and practices. This is probably the biggest area for potential expansion and examples I'd like to see, especially as I'm reading through Eustace Miles' How to Prepare Essays, Lectures, Articles, Books, Speeches and Letters, with Hints on Writing for the Press (London: Rivingtons, 1905).

I could have had some more material in chapter 3 which has some fascinating, but still evolving work. Ideas like interstitial journaling and some of the related productivity methods are interesting, but Doto only barely scratches the surface on some of these techniques and methods which go beyond the traditional "zettelkasten space", but which certainly fall in his broader framing of "system for writing" promise.

Doto's "triangle of creativity", a discussion of proximal feedback, has close parallels of Adler and Hutchins' idea of "The Great Conversation" (1952), which many are likely to miss.

For those who missed out, Dan Allosso has posted video from the sessions at https://lifelonglearn.substack.com/ Sadly missing, unless you're in the book club, are some generally lively side chat discussions as the primary video discussion was proceeding. The sessions had a breadth of experiences from the new to the old hands as well as from students to teachers and everywhere in between.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

The authors successfully detected distinct mechanisms signalling prediction violations in the auditory cortex of mice. For this purpose, an auditory pure-tone local-global paradigm was presented to awake and anaesthetised mice. In awake rodents, the authors also evaluated interneuron cell types involved in responses to the interruption of the regularity imposed by local-global sequences. By performing two-photon calcium imaging and single-unit electrophysiology, the authors disentangled three phenomena underlying responses to violations of the distinct local-global regularity levels: Stimulus-specific adaptation, surprise and surprise adaptation. Both stimulus-specific adaptation and surprise-or deviant-evoked responses are observable<br /> under anaesthesia. Altogether, this work advances our understanding of distinct predictive processes computing prediction violations upon the complexity of the regularity imposed by the auditory sequence.

Strengths:

it is an elegant study beautifully executed.

Weaknesses:

No weaknesses were identified by this reviewer.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

Oddball responses are increases in sensory responses when a stimulus is encountered in an unexpected location in a sequence of predictable stimuli. There are two computational interpretations for these responses: stimulus-specific adaptation and prediction errors. In recent years, evidence has accumulated that a significant part of these sequence violation responses cannot be explained simply by stimulus-specific adaptation. The current work elegantly adds to this evidence by using a sequence paradigm based on two levels of sequence violations: "Local" sequence violations of repetitions of identical stimuli, and "global" sequence violations of stimulus sequence patterns. The authors demonstrate that both local and global sequence violation responses are found in L2/3 neurons of the mouse auditory cortex. Using sequences with different inter-stimulus intervals, they further demonstrate that these sequence violation responses cannot be explained by stimulus-specific adaption.

Strengths:

The work is based on a very clever use of a sequence violation paradigm (local-global paradigm) and provides convincing evidence for the interpretation that there are at least two types of sequence violation responses and that these cannot be explained by stimulus-specific adaption. Most of the conclusions are based on a large dataset, and are compelling.

Weaknesses:

The final part of the paper focuses on the responses of VIP and PV-positive interneurons. The responses of VIP interneurons appear somewhat variable and difficult to interpret (e.g. VIP neurons exhibit omission responses in the A block, but not the B block). The conclusions based on these data appear less solid.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

Summary:

In their manuscript entitled "Parallel mechanisms signal a hierarchy of sequence structure violations in the auditory cortex", Jamali et al. provide evidence for cellular-level mechanisms in the auditory cortex of mice for the encoding of predictive information on different temporal and contextual scales. The study design separates more clearly than previous studies between the effects of local and global deviants and separates their respective effects on the neuronal responses clearly through the use of various contextual conditions and short and long time scales. Further, it identifies a contribution from a small set of VIP interneurons to the detection of omitted sounds, and shows the influence of isofluorane anesthesia on the neural responses.

Strengths:

(1) The study provides a rather encompassing set of experimental techniques to study the cellular level responses, using two complementary recording techniques in the same animal and similar cortical location.

(2) Comparison between awake and anesthetized states are conducted in the same animals, which allows for rather a direct comparison of populations under different conditions, thus reducing sampling variability.

(3) The set of paradigms is well developed and specifically chosen to provide appropriate and meaningful controls/comparisons, which were missing from previous studies.

(4) The addition of cell-type specific recordings is valuable and in particular in combination with the contrast of awake and anesthetized animals provides novel insights into the cellular level representation of deviant signals, such as surprise, prediction error, and general adaptation.

(5) The analysis and presentation of the data are clear and quite complete, yet remain succinct and perform insightful contrasts.

(6) The study will have an impact on multiple levels, as it introduces important variations in the paradigm and analytical contrasts that both human and animal researchers can pick up and improve their studies. The cell-type-specific results are particularly intriguing, although these would likely require replication before being completely reliable. Further, the study provides a substantial and diverse dataset that others can explore.

Weaknesses:

(1) The responses from cells recorded via Neuropixel and 2p differ qualitatively, as noted by the authors, with NP-recorded cells showing much more inhibited/reduced responses between acoustic stimulations. The authors briefly qualify these differences as potentially indicating a sampling issue, however, this matter deserves more detailed consideration in my opinion. Specifically, the authors could try to compare the different depths at which these neurons were sampled or relate the locations in the cortex to each other (as the Neuropixel recordings were collected in the same animals, a subset of the 2p recordings could be compared to the Neuropixel recordings.).

(2) The current study did not monitor the attentional state of the mouse in relation to the stimulus by either including a behavioral component or pupil monitoring, which could influence the neural responses to deviant stimuli and omissions. .

(3) Given the complexity and variety of the paradigms, conditions, and analyzed cell-types, the manuscript could profit from a more visual summary figure that provides an easy-to-access overview of what was found.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

This manuscript combined rat fMRI, optogenetics, and electrophysiology to examine the large-scale functional network of the olfactory system as well as its alteration in an aged rat model.

Strengths:

Overall methodology is very solid and the results provided an interesting perspective on large-scale functional network perturbation of the olfactory system.

Weaknesses:

The biological relevance and validation of the current results can be improved.

(1) Figure 1.1, on the top of the figure, CHR2 may be replaced by CHR2-mCherry, as only mCherry is fluorescent. And also, it's somewhat surprising that in AON and Pir regions (where only axon fibers should be labelled as red), most fluorescence appeared dot-like and looked more similar to cell body instead of typical fiber. The authors may want to double-check this.

(2) The authors primarily presented 1Hz stimulation results. What is the most biologically relevant frequency (e.g., perhaps firing frequency under natural odor stimulation) among all frequencies that were used?

(3) In Figure 2, the statistical thresholding is confusing: in the figure legend, it was stated that "t > 3.1 corresponding to P < 0.001" but later "further corrected for multiple comparisons with threshold-free cluster enhancement with family-wise error rate (TFCE-FWE) at P < 0.05"? Regardless of the statistical thresholding, such BOLD activation seemed to be widespread (almost whole-brain activation). Does such activation remain specific to the optogenetic stimulation, or something more general (e.g., arousal level change)? Furthermore, how those results (I assume they are group-level results) were obtained was not described very clearly. Is it just a simple average of individual-level results, or (more conventionally) second-level analysis?

(4) In Figure 2, why use AUC to quantify the activation, not the more conventional beta value in the GLM analysis?

(5) For Figure 2D, the way that it was quantified can be better described as "relative" activation within one condition, and I don't how to interpret the comparison among the relative fraction of activated regions. Perhaps comparison using percentage change (i.e., beta values) is more straightforward.

(6) For Figure 3, it may be more convenient for readers to include the results of 1st activation for direct comparison. The current layout makes it difficult to make direct, visual comparisons among all 3 activations. Again I think using beta values (instead of AUC) may be more conventional.

(7) Can the DCM results (at least part of it) be verified using the current electrophysiological data? For example, the long-range inhibitory effective connectivity of AON is rather intriguing. If that can be verified using ephys. data, it would be really great. In the current form, the DCM and ephys. results seem to be totally unrelated.

(8) In Figure 6, it would be great if the adaptation of BOLD and ephys. signals can be correlated at the brain region level. The current figure only demonstrated there is adaptation in ephys. signal, but did not show if such adaptation is related to the BOLD adaptation.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

Ma and colleagues presented a study on the characterization of brain-wide spatio-temporal impact of olfactory cortical outputs. They take advantage of multi-modal techniques on rats: fMRI, optogenetics, and electrophysiology. In addition, they used cutting-edge analytical techniques and modeling to support and interpret their data. The main findings of the study are:

(1) The neurons in the Olfactory Bulb (OB) predominantly activate primary olfactory network regions, while stimulation of OB afferents in Anterior Olfactory Nucleus (AON) and Piriform Cortex (Pir) primarily orthodromically activates hippocampal/striatal and limbic networks, respectively.

(2) Non-specified adaptation or habituation mechanisms may play a significant role in modulating olfactory outputs over subsequent fMRI sessions.

(3) Artificially induced aging in rats induces profound modification in the functional interaction between olfactory cortices and multiple brain regions.

The results on AON are of particular interest because of the lack of functional information on this region, despite its recognized importance in shaping OB output and behavior (odor localization tasks).

Strengths:

The manuscript is very accurate. The figures are well-crafted, and clear and provide much information with the most appropriate plots and graphics. The study's amount and data quality are remarkable, and the experimental size adequately addresses the scientific questions. I particularly appreciated the details in the description of the methods regarding the missing data and the size of the different animal groups. The supplementary data complete the leading figures and provide information at a single animal level.

Weaknesses:

(1) One of the main reasons the Piriform Cx is understudied in rodents is because of the proximity to air, which creates artifacts in fMRI images. This issue becomes more critical at ultra-high magnetic fields, but I would expect it also at 7T. One main achievement of this study is, indeed, the acquisition of fMRI data from Piriform, and this point should be highlighted by showing raw functional data from a rat. The best would be if an fMRI data sample for a rat, no matter which stimulation, is shared on a public repository, like Zenodo or similar. I am curious to check the quality of the BOLD data from such an 'enormous' field of view, particularly in the OB, with a single-shot sequence. Also, the visual inspection of raw data is essential to appreciate how many 0.5 x 0.5 x 1 mm voxels fit into AON, and others analyzed small brain structures, like the amygdala, etc. Was the amygdala entirely visible in BOLD, or did the air in the ear channel make an artifact partially shadowing it?

(2) Surprisingly, the only information missing in the methods is the post-surgery period and the time between two consecutive fMRI sessions. How much time was accorded to rats to recover from the surgeries, and what time interval between two scans? This information is crucial for interpreting the decrease in most BOLD responses in subsequent recordings. The supposed adaptation should fit into the known time frames for odor adaptation. Usually, fast adaptation does not last for days (and it should be measured within a single experiment: is it the case?), while for long-lasting adaptation the stimulus (odor or opto) should be maintained constantly ON. This does not seem to be the case in this study. The hypothesis, alternative to adaptation, of a less efficient light activation, for example, due to gliosis around the fiber tips, should be discarded with more evidence than the preservation of OB > Pir responses or acknowledged in the manuscript.

(3) The D-galactose experiments were conducted only after administering the aging molecule, with no baseline/reference data on the same animals. Then, comparisons were made with healthy rats, but the two groups not only can be discriminated with respect to D-galactose administration but also with age (10 VS 18 weeks). A control group for 18-weeks-old rats with no D-galactose treatment would better compare the D-galactose effect and avoid any potential bias from group comparisons of rats at different ages. Do you confirm that D-galactose was injected into each rat 56 times/day in a row, or am I mistaken?

Overall, if my concerns are addressed, this is outstanding work, and I congratulate the authors.

Reviewer #1 (Public Review):

Summary:

The emergence of Drosophila EM connectomes has revealed numerous neurons within the associative learning circuit. However, these neurons are inaccessible for functional assessment or genetic manipulation in the absence of cell-type-specific drivers. Addressing this knowledge gap, Shuai et al. have screened over 4000 split-GAL4 drivers and correlated them with identified neuron types from the "Hemibrain" EM connectome by matching light microscopy images to neuronal shapes defined by EM. They successfully generated over 800 split-GAL4 drivers and 22 split-LexA drivers covering a substantial number of neuron types across layers of the mushroom body associative learning circuit. They provide new labeling tools for olfactory and non-olfactory sensory inputs to the mushroom body; interneurons connected with dopaminergic neurons and/or mushroom body output neurons; potential reinforcement sensory neurons; and expanded coverage of intrinsic mushroom body neurons. Furthermore, the authors have optimized the GR64f-GAL4 driver into a sugar sensory neuron-specific split-GAL4 driver and functionally validated it as providing a robust optogenetic substitute for sugar reward. Additionally, a driver for putative nociceptive ascending neurons, potentially serving as optogenetic negative reinforcement, is characterized by optogenetic avoidance behavior. The authors also use their very large dataset of neuronal anatomies, covering many example neurons from many brains, to identify neuron instances with atypical morphology. They find many examples of mushroom body neurons with altered neuronal numbers or mistargeting of dendrites or axons and estimate that 1-3% of neurons in each brain may have anatomic peculiarities or malformations. Significantly, the study systematically assesses the individualized existence of MBON08 for the first time. This neuron is a variant shape that sometimes occurs instead of one of two copies of MBON09, and this variation is more common than that in other neuronal classes: 75% of hemispheres have two MBON09's, and 25% have one MBON09 and one MBON08. These newly developed drivers not only expand the repertoire for genetic manipulation of mushroom body-related neurons but also empower researchers to investigate the functions of circuit motifs identified from the connectomes. The authors generously make these flies available to the public. In the foreseeable future, the tools generated in this study will allow important advances in the understanding of learning and memory in Drosophila.

Strengths:

(1) After decades of dedicated research on the mushroom body, a consensus has been established that the release of dopamine from DANs modulates the weights of connections between KCs and MBONs. This process updates the association between sensory information and behavioral responses. However, understanding how the unconditioned stimulus is conveyed from sensory neurons to DANs, and the interactions of MBON outputs with innate responses to sensory context remains less clear due to the developmental and anatomic diversity of MBONs and DANs. Additionally, the recurrent connections between MBONs and DANs are reported to be critical for learning. The characterization of split-GAL4 drivers for 30 major interneurons connected with DANs and/or MBONs in this study will significantly contribute to our understanding of recurrent connections in mushroom body function.

(2) Optogenetic substitutes for real unconditioned stimuli (such as sugar taste or electric shock) are sometimes easier to implement in behavioral assays due to the spatial and temporal specificity with which optogenetic activation can be induced. GR64f-GAL4 has been widely used in the field to activate sugar sensory neurons and mimic sugar reward. However, the authors demonstrate that GR64f-GAL4 drives expression in other neurons not necessary for sugar reward, and the potential activation of these neurons could introduce confounds into training, impairing training efficiency. To address this issue, the authors have elaborated on a series of intersectional drivers with GR64f-GAL4 to dissect subsets of labeled neurons. This approach successfully identified a more specific sugar sensory neuron driver, SS87269, which consistently exhibited optimal training performance and triggered ethologically relevant local searching behaviors. This newly characterized line could serve as an optimized optogenetic tool for sugar reward in future studies.

(3) MBON08 was first reported by Aso et al. 2014, exhibiting dendritic arborization into both ipsilateral and contralateral γ3 compartments. However, this neuron could not be identified in the previously published Drosophila brain connectomes. In the present study, the existence of MBON08 is confirmed, occurring in one hemisphere of 35% of imaged flies. In brains where MBON08 is present, its dendrite arborization disjointly shares contralateral γ3 compartments with MBON09. This remarkable phenotype potentially serves as a valuable resource for understanding the stochasticity of neurodevelopment and the molecular mechanisms underlying mushroom body lobe compartment formation.

Comments on revised version:

I only suggested minor changes, and these have been resolved.

Reviewer #2 (Public Review):

Summary:

The article by Shuai et al. describes a comprehensive collection of over 800 split-GAL4 and split-LexA drivers, covering approximately 300 cell types in Drosophila, aimed at advancing the understanding of associative learning. The mushroom body (MB) in the insect brain is central to associative learning, with Kenyon cells (KCs) as primary intrinsic neurons and dopaminergic neurons (DANs) and MB output neurons (MBONs) forming compartmental zones for memory storage and behavior modulation. This study focuses on characterizing sensory input as well as direct upstream connections to the MB both anatomically and, to some extent, behaviorally. Genetic access to specific, sparsely expressed cell types is crucial for investigating the impact of single cells on computational and functional aspects within the circuitry. As such, this new and extensive collection significantly extends the range of targeted cell types related to the MB and will be an outstanding resource to elucidate MB-related processes in the future.

Strengths:

The work by Shuai et al. provides novel and essential resources to study MB-related processes and beyond. The resulting tools are publicly available and, together with the linked information, will be foundational for many future studies. The importance and impact of this tool development approach, along with previous ones, for the field cannot be overstated. One of many interesting aspects arises from the anatomical analysis of cell types that are less stereotypical across flies. These discoveries might open new avenues for future investigations into how such asymmetry and individuality arise from development and other factors, and how it impacts the computations performed by the circuitry that contains these elements.

Comments on revised version:

From my side they have addressed the few issues I had sufficiently.

Reviewer #3 (Public Review):

Summary:

Previous research on the Drosophila mushroom body (MB) has made this structure the best-understood example of an associative memory center in the animal kingdom. This is in no small part due to the generation of cell-type specific driver lines that have allowed consistent and reproducible genetic access to many of the MB's component neurons. The manuscript by Shuai et al. now vastly extends the number of driver lines available to researchers interested in studying learning and memory circuits in the fly. It is an 800-plus collection of new cell-type specific drivers target neurons that either provide input (direct or indirect) to MB neurons or that receive output from them. Many of the new drivers target neurons in sensory pathways that convey conditioned and unconditioned stimuli to the MB. Most drivers are exquisitely selective, and researchers will benefit from the fact that whenever possible, the authors have identified the targeted cell types within the Drosophila connectome. Driver expression patterns are beautifully documented and are publicly available through the Janelia Research Campus's Flylight database where full imaging results can be accessed. Overall, the manuscript significantly augments the number of cell type-specific driver lines available to the Drosophila research community for investigating the cellular mechanisms underlying learning and memory in the fly. Many of the lines will also be useful in dissecting the function of the neural circuits that mediate sensorimotor circuits.

Strengths:

The manuscript represents a huge amount of careful work and leverages numerous important developments from the last several years. These include the thousands of recently generated split-Gal4 lines at Janelia and the computational tools for pairing them to make exquisitely specific targeting reagents. In addition, the manuscript takes full advantage of the recently released Drosophila connectomes. Driver expression patterns are beautifully illustrated side-by-side with corresponding skeletonized neurons reconstructed by EM. A comprehensive table of the new lines, their split-Gal4 components, their neuronal targets, and other valuable information will make this collection eminently useful to end-users. In addition to the anatomical characterization, the manuscript also illustrates the functional utility of the new lines in optogenetic experiments. In one example, the authors identify a specific subset of sugar reward neurons that robustly promotes associative learning.

Comments on revised version:

Overall, I thought the authors addressed my comments well with the possible exception of what is actually new here. This was the most important thing that I thought should be included in the revision. Although the authors rewrote the paragraph describing the lines presented in the paper, I still can't tell exactly which ones haven't been previously published. Their revised paragraph says that 40 lines have been "previously used," but Supplemental Table 1 shows references for over 200 of the lines, which sounds more reasonable based on papers that have come out.

Also, in the revised paragraph they state that "All transgenic lines newly generated in this study are listed in Supplementary File 2" but that table lists only the 36 LexA hemidriver lines! Confusingly, this comment cites the same 8 references as are cited for the 40 line that they say were previously published. I am thus only more confused about how many previously uncharacterized lines are presented in this paper.

Further clarification would be helpful. On the one hand, I think this paper is a very nice summary of a ton of work and brings it all under one umbrella in a way that will be useful for many in the field. In that sense, the manuscript is worth publishing simply as a useful resource even if all the lines were previously published. On the other hand, it would be useful for readers to know which lines were previously characterized in other publications and which ones were not. This information may or may not be in Supplementary Tables 1 and 2 (but I can't tell).

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

The paper by Shelton et al investigates some of the anatomical and physiological properties of the mouse claustrum. First, they characterize the intrinsic properties of claustrum excitatory and inhibitory neurons and determine how these different claustrum neurons receive input from different cortical regions. Next, they perform in vitro patch clamp recordings to determine the extent of intraclaustrum connectivity between excitatory neurons. Following these experiments, in vivo axon imaging was performed to determine how claustrum-retrosplenial cortex neurons are modulated by different combinations of auditory, visual, and somatosensory input. Finally, the authors perform claustrum lesions to determine if claustrum neurons are required for performance on a multisensory discrimination task

Strengths: