- Jun 2024
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this is why it's such a trap which is why like we're on this train barreling down this pathway which is super risky
for - progress trap - double bind - AI - ubiquity
progress trap - double bind - AI - ubiquity - Rationale: we will have to equip many systems with AI - including military systems - Already connected to the internet - AI will be embedded in every critical piece of infrastructure in the future - What happens if something goes wrong? - Now there is an alignment failure everywhere - We will potentially have superintelligence within 3 years - Alignment failures will become catastrophic with them
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- Dec 2023
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docdrop.org docdrop.org
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we need to build this this again this bridge and it's obviously not going to be written in the 00:50:41 same style or standard as your kind of deep academic papers if you think this is uh U unnecessary or irrelevant then you end up with is a scientific 00:50:56 Community which talks only to itself in language that nobody else understands and you live the general Republic uh uh prey to a lot of very 00:51:09 unscientific conspiracy theories and mythologies and theories about the world
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key insight
- Elites are necessary in every society
- Historically, people who strongly believe that the current elites aren't necessary or are harmful often become the revolutionaries who become the new elites
- elites need to speak in their own specialist language to each other but there are two kinds of elites
- those who serve society
- those who serve themselves
- often, we have fox in sheep's clothing - elites who serve themselves but disguise themselves in the language of elites who serve others in order to gain access to power ,
- we normally think of wealthy people as elites, but Harari classifies scientists as also a kind of elite
- elites may be necessary but
- We are caught in a double bind, a wicked problem as elites are also the world's greatest per capita energy consumers and their outsized ecological, consumption and energy footprint is now a existential threat to the survival of our species
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references
- Kevin Anderson: A Habitable Earth Can No Longer Afford The Rich – And That Could Mean Me And You
- The role of high-socioeconomic-status people in locking in or rapidly reducing energy-driven greenhouse gas emissions
- Millionaire spending incompatible with 1.5 °C ambitions
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enough versus feasible dilemma
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definition: enough vs feasible dilemma
- the changes that are actually required are not feasible to do
- what is feasible to do is not enough
- this puts us in a double bind
- we need to have interventions that are BOTH
- enough to solve these problems and are
- feasible to execute
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- Nov 2023
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A productive debate about the oil and gas industry in transitions needs to avoid two common misconceptions. The first is that transitions can only be led by changes in demand.
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for: double bind - oil and gas industry committing to clean energy, oil and gas industry - Mexican standoff - SIMPOL
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- The oil and gas industry faces the dilemma of the first mover. Nobody wants to take the risk to commit
- It's a Mexican standoff but maybe SIMPOL is the solution
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- Oct 2023
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theconversation.com theconversation.com
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docdrop.org docdrop.org
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being able to recognize a double bind is wonderful it's a really good thing to know how to do 01:16:29 um like I said it won't solve it for you but it will keep it from tearing you in half and that's something yeah so generally you have to do a jump 01:16:40 or come from another context the response to double bind is never on either side of the bind like never which is so hard in a culture that is 01:16:54 completely committed to linear strategic change making and solving if the if the solution looks nothing like the problem
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quote: Nora Bateson
- being able to recognize a double bind is wonderful it's a really good thing to know how to do
- it won't solve it for you but it will keep it from tearing you in half and that's something
- generally you have to do a jump or come from another context
- the response to double bind is never on either side of the bind, like never, which is so hard in a culture that is completely committed to linear strategic change making and solving if the if the solution looks nothing like the problem
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how do we 01:03:46 meet not match right so this is an image that meets all of this these images are going to go for 01:04:00 decontextualized singular responses that are going to create more double binds if you try to solve for life on land you're going to end up with life on 01:04:12 water being a disaster life in water or life in the air or life right if you try to solve for one you get into these contradictions and double binds
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for: holism, progress trap, double bind, SDG failure
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- In the current silo'd approach typified by the SDGs, unintended consequences, or progress traps are unavoidable and are built into the approach itself.
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meet the double bind don't match it
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when your lover or your partner says to you or maybe you say it to your partner 00:37:21 you never tell me that you love me
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example: double bind
- you never tell me that you love me
- parent encouraging children to be independent but then asking them " don't you love me?"
- encouraging children to speak their mind but then having standardized test scores
- having to work to stay alive but sacrificing being with our children, aged parents or other loved ones in order to do so
- maintaining our current precarious lives working at destructive and meaningless jobs in order to survive
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- these examples seem to be more indicative of contradiction than multiple contexts
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the double bind was an evolutionary principle an evolutionary principle 00:36:26 so that every organism at some point right every organism is in relationship to all these other organisms and all those organisms are always changing a little bit 00:36:40 and so one day the moment comes when that organism cannot do what it used to do to survive if it does what it knows how to do it dies 00:36:54 but it doesn't know how to do anything else
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the definition of a double bind is that you have a a problem a bind 00:35:07 in one context and you can't actually solve it in that context because it's caught in another context and so you can't solve it in that 00:35:20 context because it's caught in these other contexts
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definition: double bind
- the definition of a double bind is that you have a problem (a bind) in one context and you can't actually solve it in that context because it's caught in another context
- Gregory Bateson defined the double bind as an evolutionary trait of species due to their changing nature.
- Since individuals of a species are constantly changing, there comes a day when all that it knows what to do in order to survive is outdated due to the changing environment. When it repeats the old behavior that served its survival in the past, it dies.
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- progress traps are related to double binds because in a progress trap, an implemented solution to a problem in one context gives rise to a new problem in another context.
- the original problem (bind) in one context appears to be resolvable but actual isn't. Future unfolding of the implemented solution unfold a future unexpected problem.
- The two problems are not simultaneously occurring as in a double bind, but time-delayed
- both double bind and progress traps emerge from the same root of violating holism
- in not grasping the implications of the emptiness of phenomena, we ignore intertwingled nature of reality, we circumvent Indra's meet of jewels at our own peril
- adjacency
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one of the problems of the double 00:44:14 bind is that you are often so caught in the extreme drama of the situation that it becomes very difficult to see beyond it
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insight: double bind
- one of the problems of the double bind is that you are often so caught in the extreme drama of the situation that it becomes very difficult to see beyond it
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- Jul 2022
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the mechanism ofdouble bind described by Gregory Bateson et al. [35 ] as a pattern of communication
!- examples : double bind * When one thinks a little, one finds many such double bind situations in life such as: * Persons in positions of responsibility who have access to more resources than they have ability to afford, creating temptation to steal Marrying out of sense of duty instead of love * Challenges identifying with gender identity - LGBTQ+ (lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, queer (or sometimes questioning), and others. The "plus" represents other sexual identities including pansexual and Two-Spirit) * Conformity bias - sensing injustice of certain social norms propagated by your own ingroup but feeling peer pressure to conform
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All moral codes, all prescribed ways ofliving, all social arrangements do involve to a degree such targeting. Certain behaviours, desires, oreven thoughts are simply unacceptable, will be punished, or at least strongly discouraged. While someof such prohibitions are official and overt and thus can be related to and evaluated, others remainonly tacit and below the threshold of consciousness.
!- effects : double bind * When we are caught in a double bind, the effects can manifest explicitly and overtly or be subtle and tacit such as behaviors of boredom, frustration, loneliness, unfulfilled, desperation, etc. * the resulting emotional tension is unhealthy
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select from its intrinsic desires, ideas and dispositions those that may fit into theperceivable societal contours—and to choose what to do with the remains that do not fit.
!- in other words : double bind * try to fit societal contours and adapt remaining behaviors that do not fit
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The sharp boundary created by thesplitting of thoughts and disowning those which threaten to disrupt the personware seems thento be an intelligible choice.
!- insight : double bind confronted with personal survival, the person is forced to choose the personware * The cost of disrupting it is perceived as too high
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- Apr 2021
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www.merriam-webster.com www.merriam-webster.com
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the double bind faced by every politician: responding to scurrilous charges only gives them unwarranted publicity; not responding to such charges is often interpreted as an admission of guilt
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