I'm reminded of the "Auschwitz Selfie" controversy. Are there limits to posing as a legitimate way to interact with statues, cultural artifacts, art? Is it legitimate/appropriate to pose and take a self portrait in front of any type of cultural artifacts especially if we believe it leads to meaning making? Is that more valuable than the potential to offend other visitors or invested participants? Who decides?

seems like learning to count is much less subjective than learning to interpret art...

explanation of meaning making as it occurs through posing

the posing alone doesn't seem to be enough to make meaning; the comparisons made through posing lead to interpretation and meaning making

and therefore understanding? meaning making?

what happens in the process of the physical act of posing that leads to meaning making?

again I'm prompted to raise the question about tourism and authenticity even though this isn't the question we're supposed to be pondering...reminds me of Nespor's piece

As visitors pose, they themselves become resources for understanding for others

The pose is helping with the internal understanding and at the same time communicates that this is taking place to people nearby.

Posing isn't a representation of an already-established conceptual understanding; it is a tool to help in the construction of understanding.

The first claim is certainly not very controversial -- the idea that the poses, gestures, and physicality of visitors shapes the "social" component of meaning making. I think what is far more interesting is the assertion that it affects the "psychological processes on the intramental plane" -- that is, these poses affect how we construct meaning individually.

Reminds me of when Jasmine spoke to one of my classes last semester, and there was some discussion about teaching kids math when they are sitting still in a classroom. I could be remembering this wrong, but she made the point that no matter what, your body was always doing something, even if that something was sitting. She emphasized that we couldn't simply discount what the body of a learner was doing. Seems that Steier is making that precise point.

To become fully engulfed in the art work. Is this done to try to understand what the other person was thinking? Would this be more to empathize than to learn? Would learning be considered empathizing?

This reminds me of when I did my observation at the Whitney and the one observed was bobbing back and forth to one of the art forms that was a short film. Maybe this helped him (the person I observed) become completely engulfed in the art.

Would this not be the first step an observing would need to do BEFORE posing? This is why I said earlier internalizing and externalizing may be interconnected.

Promotes understanding because you are interpreting what the artwork is symbolizing.

Does this metaphoric gesture in creating an abstract object/content support critical thinking which support understanding and learning of the piece of art?

Which may aid in the knowledge attained by being at the museum.

Gesture as an embodied activity - process of depiction and representation. Using their bodies to respond and adjust to the "posed question" and construction of meaning

Distinction between externalization and internalization. I'm understanding this to essentially be a dialectic of External: visible physical displays of meaning in the body's movement Internal: developed in cognition, process of learning and understanding

Clearly stated argument about the "posing cycle" and how it outlines the meaning making progression.

Here we get a different example of posing, one that is explicitly asked for by the exhibition. This is contrasted by the first example where it seemed that posing emerged organically as a meaning making tool in conversation.

Still, even in the explicit request of the exhibit for posing, learning is happening in their efforts to figure out what it is they have to change to correctly replicate the image.

A nice example of attempts at meaning making through a coordination of gesture, gaze, talk and posing in an interaction between two people.

The authors argue here that the pose helps formulate and externalize her question in an effort to interpret the artwork with her friend.

I feel like maybe where this is going is that that the gestural act of posing is not a presentation of meaning but a participant in the act of meaning making (learning), let's see..

Thus, the framework considers meaning making as occurring through and across interactions between people and context and material and time rather than it being something one does on their own.