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  1. Jan 2019
    1. indeliblylinguistic:dialectic.

      The dialectic is logos, linguistic.

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  2. Oct 2018
    1. A theory, in short, is some-thing a practitioner consults when he wishes to perform correctly, withthe term "correctly" here understood as meaning independently of hispreconceptions, biases, or personal preferences.

      Fish's definition of a theory.

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    1. In  what I earlier named a bounded-argument space these controls do not have to be  imposed by will because they are built into the structure of the discursive situation.  In a bounded-argument space, the things one is obliged to say and the things one  is forbidden to say are known in advance, either because they are set down in a list  of rules or because they are part of the tacit knowledge internalized by every  competent practitioner.

      Bounded Space definition

  3. Aug 2018
    1. Thespace of politics is filled by dispute, contingency, inconsistency, unreason,and passion: here the arts of persuasion rule. Rhetoric is thus the key tountangling the legal and extralegal tensions shot through life in the com-munity, where the networks of identity that make up the civic self intersectand blur together

      Stanley Fish all day.

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  4. Apr 2018
    1. Culler's conventions, Fish's strategies, are not present in the text; rather, they are part of the mental equipment of writers and readers, and only by examining this mental equipment can we explain how writers and readers communicate.

      Fish : problems with forming problems . .. .

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  5. Feb 2018
    1. "First, we need to know more about how graduates with humanities degrees are doing in the workplace. Second, we need to know more about how the skills the humanities seek to impart -- critical thinking and communication skills, for instance -- actually matter in the workplace. And third, we need to be willing to adjust our views about which humanities aptitudes are significant (or not) in the extraordinarily dynamic workplace of the coming decades. Along the way, we’re also going to have to get a better grip on just how well we’re doing in fostering the capabilities we deem most relevant to work readiness and success."

      This is an argument the Humanities will always lose.

  6. Jan 2018
    1. Our fellow citizens, too, who in proportion to their love of liberty keep a steady eye upon the means of sustaining it, do not require to be reminded of the duty they owe to themselves to remedy all essential defects in so vital a part of their system. While they are sensible that every evil attendant upon its operation is not necessarily indicative of a bad organization, but may proceed from temporary causes, yet the habitual presence, or even a single instance, of evils which can be clearly traced to an organic defect will not, I trust, be over-looked through a too scrupulous veneration for the work of their ancestors. The Constitution was an experiment committed to the virtue and intelligence of the great mass of our country-men, in whose ranks the framers of it themselves were to perform the part of patriotic observation and scrutiny, and if they have passed from the stage of existence with an increased confidence in its general adaptation to our condition we should learn from authority so high the duty of fortifying the points in it which time proves to be exposed rather than be deterred from approaching them by the suggestions of fear or the dictates of misplaced reverence.

      Jackson's argument for amending the Constitution. What's important to him (or anyone): the end goal (in this case, changing the VP election law) or the supporting logic (the Founders understood their imperfection and so provided ways to rectify structural problems).

  7. Jun 2017
    1. I will not be attending the Modern Language Association meeting in Seattle (Jan. 5-8), but I have read through the program to see what’s going on and what’s no longer going on in literary studies.

      Isn't this a little like a movie reviewer saying, "I haven't seen this movie, but here's the problem with it"?

  8. Mar 2017
    1. There may well be a dominant reading, but this can erode over time if the “interpretive community” (Fish 1980) to which it speaks changes or the message lost entirely if that com-munity is decisively disrupted or displaced.14
    1. ccording to Dobrin, without theory, "composition scholarship will stagnate, and composition as a field will be defined within the narrow confines of a service orientation" (23). We risk invisibility and illegiti macy, and those attributes would have dire consequences for the field as a whole.

      True.

    1. rather, he doesn't like it because he thinks it makes claims for benefits that cannot be scientifically substantiated and so leaves academe open to all sorts of meddling criticism

      But that's not all, right? I'm thinking in terms of Hawk, though Fish doesn't go so far. More specifically, Hawk says the only to teach such values is to give students opportunity to discover it on their own, right?

    2. an a sentence. Indeed, by characterizing my field as "composition studies" only, Fish leaves out a major part of what we do: addressing not only the structure of language but also the rhetorical means of persuasion

      Not any longer.

    1. (students always know what they are ex­pected to believe)

      They always know there's a game and no matter how much I try to break out of this game, construct ways to break these bounds, I am still constrained by the situation. I've merely changed the rules of the game.

    2. The Eskimo reading is unaccepta­ble because there is at present no interpretive strategy for pro­ducing it, no way of "looking" or reading (and remember, all acts of looking or reading are "ways") that would result in the emergence of obviously Eskiri:lO meanings. This does not mean, however, that no such strategy could ever come into play, and it is not difficult to imagine the circumstances under which it would establish itself.

      And this is the point.

  9. Feb 2017
    1. So when Fish says “form” he means “school grammar” and syntax.

      No.

    2. Winterowd states that “current-traditionalism simply has no advocates” (En-glish 14), and among compositionists this is generally true.

      hmm

    3. Translated into pedagogy, this belief typically results in some version of current-traditionalism. And despite some novel elements, Fish’s approach to writing instruction is indeed current-traditional, within a belletristic conception of English as the refined appreciation of literature.

      Argument

    4. Meanwhile, current-traditional composition already has its prominent public intellectual: Stanley Fish.

      Contention

    5. it continues to frame public attitudes toward writing pedagogy, and thus—to the extent that the public assesses practice and influences policy—continues to influence com-position.

      The problem.

    6. current-traditional p
    1. For current-traditional rhetoric, reality is rational, regular and certain - a realm which when it is not static is at least in a predictable, harmonious, symmetrical balance. Meaning thus exists independent of the perceiving mind, reposing in external reality.

      No way Fish believes this.