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  1. Jan 2026
    1. k zei tegen hen: vraag al je bedrijven om een kopie van hun data op een Europese cloud te bewaren, voor de zekerheid. Dat is minimale beveiliging. Je kunt nog steeds met AWS werken als je wilt, maar zorg dat je een kopie hebt onder Europese jurisdictie.’

      good example here of suggesting a single easy step to break the status quo by [[Henri Verdier p]]: ensure copies of all your data are available on a European cloud too. See it as a minimal safety precaution (that can become the first step to fully moving away from US clouds)

  2. Dec 2025
    1. Hij raakt teleurgesteld over hoe de Europese bedrijven zich opstellen, vooral cloudaanbieders als Herztner, Leaseweb (Nederlands), OVH en Ionos. „Je zou verwachten dat die voorop zouden lopen in de strijd. Maar in plaats daarvan zeggen ze ‘Het ligt niet aan ons dat mensen onze spullen niet kopen’.”

      [[Bert Hubert c]] thinks the reaction of Hetzner (misspelled here), Leaseweb (involved in #jtc25), OVH en Ionos (collab w Nextcloud) is disappointing. They're not making themselves visible ('we were already here') or make noise now at the opportunity arising.

    2. En dus probeert de NextCloud-topman de gefragmenteerde Europese ict-industrie in beweging te krijgen. Op 4 maart pakt Karlitschek het vliegtuig naar Milaan voor een EuroStack-bijeenkomst met vooral Europese ondernemers. Het is de bedoeling daar stappen te zetten richting een gezamenlijk Europees ict-aanbod. Ze spreken er een eerste stap af naar een gezamenlijke Europese standaard voor clouds.

      March 2025, Eurostack meeting in Milano, where a first step towards European cloud standard would have been decided. Connection to #jtc25 ?

    1. I'm not advocating that everyone should self-host everything. But the pendulum has swung too far toward managed services. There's a large sweet spot where self-hosting makes perfect sense, and more teams should seriously consider it. Start small. If you're paying more than $200/month for RDS, spin up a test server and migrate a non-critical database. You might be surprised by how straightforward it is. The future of infrastructure is almost certainly more hybrid than it's been recently: managed services where they add genuine value, self-hosted where they're just expensive abstractions. Postgres often falls into the latter category. Footnotes They're either just hosting a vanilla postgres instance that's tied to the deployed hardware config, or doing something opaque with edge deploys and sharding. In the latter case they near guarantee your DB will stay highly available but costs can quickly spiral out of control. ↩ Maybe up to billions at this point. ↩ Even on otherwise absolutely snail speed hardware. ↩ This was Jeff Bezos's favorite phrase during the early AWS days, and it stuck. ↩ Similar options include OVH, Hetzner dedicated instances, or even bare metal from providers like Equinix. ↩ AWS RDS & S3 has had several major outages over the years. The most memorable was the 2017 US-East-1 outage that took down half the internet. ↩

      Cloud hosting can become an expensive abstraction layer quickly. I also think there's an entire generation of coders / engineers who treat silo'd cloudhosting as a given, without considering other options and their benefits. Large window for selfhosting in which postgres almost always falls

    2. When self-hosting doesn't make sense I'd argue self-hosting is the right choice for basically everyone, with the few exceptions at both ends of the extreme: If you're just starting out in software & want to get something working quickly with vibe coding, it's easier to treat Postgres as just another remote API that you can call from your single deployed app If you're a really big company and are reaching the scale where you need trained database engineers to just work on your stack, you might get economies of scale by just outsourcing that work to a cloud company that has guaranteed talent in that area. The second full freight salaries come into play, outsourcing looks a bit cheaper. Regulated workloads (PCI-DSS, FedRAMP, HIPAA, etc.) sometimes require a managed platform with signed BAAs or explicit compliance attestations.

      Sees use for silo'd postgres hosting on the extremes of the spectrum: when you start without knowledge and are vibecoding, so you can treat the database as just another API, and when you are megacorp (outsourcing looks cheaper quickly if you have to otherwise pay multiple FTE salaries otherwise), or/and have to prove regulatory compliance.

    3. The real operational complexity

      Good overview of tasks wrt selfhosting (or rather dedicated server in a non silo datacenter), weekly, monthly, quarterly. Amounts to half a day per quarter at most. You do need to time risky updates etc better, if you run stuff others depend upon, so that you can do incident response

    4. I helped prove this to myself when I migrated off RDS. I took a pg_dump of my RDS instance, restored it to a self-hosted server with identical specs, and ran my application's test suite. Performance was identical. In some cases, it was actually better because I could tune parameters that RDS locks down.

      This reads like what I did wrt Gmail 2014 and Amazon ebooks 2025. [[Leaving a walled garden or silo 20160820203833]] is listing the bits it does and originally improved for you, then rebuild outside the silo based on same components. Not difficult but needs bit of focus.

    5. The value proposition is operational: they handle the monitoring, alerting, backup verification, and incident response. It's also a production ready configuration at minute zero of your first deployment.

      The value proposition is twofold: 1. operational handling (monitoring, backups all that) 2. production ready config out of the box (which feels like fast progress, but also locks you in ofc)

    6. For the most part managed database services aren't running some magical proprietary technology. They're just running the same open-source Postgres you can download with some operational tooling wrapped around it. Take AWS RDS. Under the hood, it's: Standard Postgres compiled with some AWS-specific monitoring hooks A custom backup system using EBS snapshots Automated configuration management via Chef/Puppet/Ansible Load balancers and connection pooling (PgBouncer) Monitoring integration with CloudWatch Automated failover scripting

      AWS RDS is not much else as open source postgres with operational tooling that is not complex itself.

    7. Fast forward to 2025 and I hope the pendulum might be swinging back. RDS pricing has grown considerably more aggressive. A db.r6g.xlarge instance (4 vCPUs, 32GB RAM) now costs $328/month before you add storage, backups, or multi-AZ deployment. For that price, you could rent a dedicated server with 32 cores and 256GB of RAM.

      Amazon database servers have become much more expensive since 2015. You could run a dedicated full server for similar money.

    8. The real shift happened around 2015 when cloud adoption accelerated. Companies started to view any infrastructure management as "undifferentiated heavy lifting"4. Running your own database became associated with legacy thinking. A new orthodoxy emerged of focusing on your application logic and letting AWS handle the infrastructure.

      This post places the shift to hyperscaler dependency in 2015, when (I presume: software) companies began to view any involvement in digital infrastructure management as hassle.

  3. Sep 2025
  4. Jun 2024
    1. https://web.archive.org/web/20240630131123/https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cd114lllyp6o

      37signals on when it does not make sense to run cloud infra. Costs vs what it brings. Great if you need 20mins of high performance, but not needed to in 5mins extend serverpark, if a week and running own hardware is also ok. I think this is true for hosted subscription services too. They add up, and there might well be alternatives. - [ ] #webbeheer maak beter lijstje abo's #tgl met Fenna. Is er iets te vervangen of consolideren? 2024-09-01

      "From cloud-first to cloud-when-it-fits" (Mark Turner of Pulsant colocation data centres)