15 Matching Annotations
- Jul 2024
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When publicly distributed, the open-source code is hidden behind layers of indirection bypassing any packaging/integration effort, relying instead on virtualisation and downloading dependencies on the fly. Thanks to those strategies, corporations could benefit from open source code without any consequence. The open source code is, anyway, mostly hosted and developed on proprietary platforms.
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- Mar 2022
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ludocode.com ludocode.com
- Nov 2021
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www.reddit.com www.reddit.com
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Because flatpaks are distro agnostic, while you may prefer to have the distro's native package format you have to understand maintaining a a deb, rpm, etc simultaneously can be a real pain in the ass that you either deal with or you simply choose not to support certain formats and thus certain distros. With Flatpak is one package for all distros, or at least that's the idea.
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This doesn't solve the problem of supporting where the users are; not everyone wants to use a rolling release, not everyone has the same kernel version, and so on. Not all distros support deb packages.If everyone was on Arch, then AUR would solve everyone's problem. If everyone was on Fedora, then RPM would solve everyone's problem but we don't have that universal packaging system.Freedom to pick and choose what you want to use on Linux is what makes it fun but for people that are trying to develop software and share it with their customers on linux, it's super complicated; they don't have a way to ship software to everyone in one simple package.Software devs can't just ship a deb package. That eliminates the large number of RPM based users such as Fedora, RedHat Fedora Enterprise, CentOS Stream or other distros. Then you have the Arch users, etc.That's what Flatpack/snap/appimage can help with.
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packaging is difficult to maintain on linux with so many different distros that software companies to support.Flatpak, snap, and appimage makes it easier to ship once for a lot of distros that support them.
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- Jan 2021
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forums.theregister.com forums.theregister.com
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Flatpak as a truly cross-distro application solution that works equally well and non-problematic for all
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If upstream code presumes things will work that dont in snap (e.g. accesses /tmp or /etc) the snap maintainer has to rewrite that code and maintain a fork. Pointless work. Packaging for .deb is a no-brainer.
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>Linux needs an app delivery format Yeah, it's incredible that it has managed to survive for so long without one.
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It's Snap that drove me to Arch, so it did me a huge favour. Seeing things like GNOME as a snap and other 'core' products wasn't something I was comfortable with. Personally, I prefer flatpaks as a packaging format when compared to snap and appimage. I agree that Linux needs an app delivery format, but snap's current implementation isn't it.
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discourse.ubuntu.com discourse.ubuntu.com
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All right, whoever, who wanted to get the latest Chromium work without worrying about snaps, get it from here 15, unzip it and make a executable link to executive file “chrome” in it. It opens instantaneously (in a snap). This Chromium web browser is NOT installed, but lives in a folder called chrome-linux.
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Look at it from another distro point of view, like Fedora or Arch. On the whole packages for popular software are not made for those distros - by the manufacturers of the software. As a result many flatpaks and some AUR packages are built by ripping apart debs and re-packing them as other package formats. This benefits Arch and Fedora (and other distros) because they now have access to software they might not have.
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Most users frankly don’t care how software is packaged. They don’t understand the difference between deb / rpm / flatpak / snap. They just want a button that installs Spotify so they can listen to their music.
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Frankly, if the Ubuntu Desktop team “switch” from making a deb of Chromium to making a snap, I doubt they’d switch back. It’s a tremendous amount of work for developer(s) to maintain numerous debs across all supported releases. Maintaining a single snap is just practically and financially more sensible.
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- technical details
- audience: casual users (not power users)
- packaging software
- users just want to get work done
- snap
- don't care
- reducing the amount of work/effort required (efficiency / maintenance burden)
- Chromium
- doesn't matter
- maintenance burden to maintenance multiple versions/variants/instances/copies of same content
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- Oct 2013
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www.pip-installer.org www.pip-installer.org
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Three things are required to fully guarantee a repeatable installation using requirements files.
"Ensuring Repeatability"
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