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livebaseballscorecards.com livebaseballscorecards.com
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Bob Carpenter talks about preparing his scorebook by [[masn Nationals]]
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thirty81press.com thirty81press.com
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[–]lawyernurse 17 points18 points19 points 3 days ago (1 child)He would also use “WW” for when he missed a play - wasn’t watching. He was a treasure. permalinkembedsavereportreply[–]Practical_Bad8980 7 points8 points9 points 3 days ago (0 children)He got that from Phil Rizzuto
WW - Wasn't Watching
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“It was like this almost 11x17 spiral bound book,” Provus said. “It probably had 185, 190 pages, and I had to carry that. I had to fill that out every day. I would write the names, the numbers, the defense, the starters. … He taught me his way of scoring and to this day, that’s how I score. “In a blowout, when a runner will take second base on indifference, as Bob Uecker would say and write in his scorecard, ‘Who cares?’ He would put a ‘WC.’ ”
WC - "Who Cares"
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swingleydev.com swingleydev.com
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https://swingleydev.com/baseball/scorecards.php
these look pretty solid and have some alternate options
Also CC - ShareALike License
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The majority of American machines (Royal, Remington, Smith-Corona) are 6 lines per inch and either 10 characters per inch (pica) or 12 CPI (elite). My guess would be that you'll see about 90% of people's machines covered across these specs with a roughly 60/40 split for pica vs. elite when it comes to planning print runs.
Most European machines are like the Olympias and are labeled as 2.3 m/m which when multiplied out (25.4mm/inch x 1 character/2.3mm) gives 11.043 CPI. Generally they're also 6 lines per inch. In the US, most of the common (and still popular) imported typewriters are going to be the Olympia SM2, SM3, SM4, SM7, and SM9s and the three incarnations of the Hermes 3000.
I've got a small collection of 50 mostly American machines across six decades with a few less common typefaces including Vogue, Gothic, and Congress Elite if you need some machines for nearby testing (I'm in Altadena, though temporarily still displaced). Most of my available machines are listed at https://typewriterdatabase.com/typewriters.php?hunter_search=7248
There are definitely some smaller 16, 18, 20, and even 24 CPI machines, but they tend to have come on the larger Olympia standards which weigh in at 30-40 pounds and are unlikely to be lugged to ballparks the way that smaller portables and ultraportables might be. There are some larger format 6 CPI machines, but they tend to be much rarer and are more often found on 1970s Smith-Coronas. If you want to go crazy, I'd guess you're aware of Ted Munk's collection of typefaces and catalogs that can be found at: https://typecast.munk.org/category/typewriter-typestylesfonts/
Incidentally, for fun, Bill Madden's book Yankees, Typewriters, Scandals, and Cooperstown: A Baseball Memoir is set for release tomorrow.
Since you sound like a local Dodgers fan, I'd love to invite you to the upcoming SoCal Type-in I'm planning for Saturday, May 10th at Vroman's Bookstore in Pasadena: https://boffosocko.com/2025/03/25/youre-invited-to-a-southern-california-type-in/ I hope you'll have some final versions available by then. 😍
reply posted 2025-04-01 at https://old.reddit.com/r/BaseballScorecards/comments/1jn2475/yes_tom_hanks_does_schlep_a_typewriter_to_ball/
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If you're curious about some of the technical details and how the are affected by the distribution of typefaces and sizes, I laid out some of them the other day: https://www.reddit.com/r/BaseballScorecards/comments/1jn2475/comment/mks9rbc/
Lou also has some great examples of scorekeeping across display sizes and level of data in his offerings at https://thirty81press.com/.
The broader issue for most scorers is the limitation to 8.5 x 11" paper which is the most common page size for the ubiquitous portable and ultraportable typewriters from the mid-century. While there are some portables with carriages and platens that might accomodate up to 12" wide paper, they're not super common.
To get machines with wider platens to get 11x14 or 11x17, you're going to need the significantly larger standard machines and unless you're rich enough to have a suite that you can securely store one in or a journalist with your own booth, not many baseball fans are going to cart a 35-45+ pound typewriter with them to all their games. Though this wouldn't prevent the fan viewing at home from scoring this way easily. My example above was done on a standard width carriage on a standard machine, but I did have several options to do it on a 12", 14", and even two 16" standard typewriters. Interestingly, most of my larger carriage machines are elite 12/6 (12CPI with 6 lines/inch) formats, and I don't think Lou has designed yet for that standard which would allow for an additional 15 characters to be distributed amidst the columns (while still keeping a minimum of 1/2" margins for some balanced white space). I'll be tinkering around with some of this myself in the coming week or so on 11x14" paper using a 15" wide platen on an elite machine to see how things might look.
Perhaps a modified format at 8.5 x 11 that alternates the teams and splits a 12 inning game format across three sheets so that the typist can type down a single page without swapping sheets every half inning and realigning their page every time? But this would cause a lot of formating change versus traditional layouts to do so.
I've also been tinkering with using small space characters like the - and the _ to indicate data (with or without the use of the variable line spacing mechanism) for things like tracking RBIs. The underline is particularly useful for this in Lou's three space layout.
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www.baseball-almanac.com www.baseball-almanac.com
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Red Barber once stated, "I doubt if there are any two people, fans, writers or broadcasters, who keep score with identical symbols and systems. I do know that any fan who acquires the habit of scoring his own ball games will find that it adds much to his enjoyment of the pastime."
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Comprehensive Abbreviation List In Alphabetical Order Abbreviations Definitions * or ! Great Defensive Play 1B Single 2B Double 3B Triple A Assist BB Base on Balls BK Balk BS Blown Save BT Bunt CG Complete Game CS Caught Stealing DP Double Play DH Designated Hitter E Error Et Error on Throw F Foul FC Fielder's Choice FO Force-Out FP Fielding Percentage G Game GA Games Ahead GB Games Behind GIDP Grounded into Double Play GS Games Started HB Hit by Ball HBP Hit By Pitch HR Home Run I Interference IBB Intentional Base on Balls IF Infield Fly IP Innings Pitched IW Intentional Walk K Strikeout Kc Strikeout - Called Ks Strikeout - Swinging L Left or Losses LD Line Drive LOB Left on Base LP Losing Pitcher NP Number of Pitches Thrown Obs Obstruction OF Outfield OS Out Stealing PB Passed Ball PH Pinch Hit PO Putout PR Pinch Runner R Right RBI Runs Batted In RS Runner(s) Stranded S or SH Sacrifice Hit SAC Sacrifice SB Stolen Base SF Sacrifice Fly SHO Shutout SO Strikeouts SV Save T Triple TB Total Bases TP Triple Play U Unassisted Putout W Walk WP Wild Pitch
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www.thirdring.net www.thirdring.net
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eephusleague.com eephusleague.com
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https://eephusleague.com/product/the-halfliner/
Simple and straightforward. Not bad, but not my favorite either.
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bcscorebook.com bcscorebook.com
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Like the quantity, but the layout and format doesn't do much for me.
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Andres Wirkmaa Baseball scorebook<br /> https://www.wirkmaa.com/wirkmaa_s_baseball_softball_scorebook_45944.htm
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www.72doubleplay.com www.72doubleplay.com
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7-2 Double Play<br /> https://www.72doubleplay.com/
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Lives in OC near Angels Stadium
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Numbers Game Scorebooks<br /> https://www.numbersgame.co/
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BaseballNotation.com<br /> Free baseball scorecard app
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