• for: noosphere, symbolosphere, meaningverse, comparison - noosphere, symbolosphere, meaningverse

• comparison: noosphere, symbolosphere, menaingverse

  • The last two terms originate in Stop Reset Go's Deep Humanity praxis and are comparable to the noosphere.

  • The symbolosphere stresses the symbolic nature of the experience

https://app.thebrain.com/brain/3d80058c-14d8-5361-0b61-a061f89baf87/b3c77013-8ce4-29cd-95b9-18112649a306

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noosphere

See also:<br /> - https://subconscious.substack.com/p/noosphere-a-protocol-for-thought - https://app.thebrain.com/brain/3d80058c-14d8-5361-0b61-a061f89baf87/b3c77013-8ce4-29cd-95b9-18112649a306

https://subconscious.substack.com/p/noosphere-a-protocol-for-thought

Them: So what are we really talking about here?

Me: Do you want the cosmic answer?

Them: Sure.

Me: OK. We're in the process of creating a planetary nervous system.

https://web.archive.org/web/20230503153010/https://subconscious.substack.com/p/llms-break-the-internet-signing-everything

Gordon Brander on how Maggie Appleton's point in her talk may be addressed: by humans signing their output (it doesn't preclude humans signing generated output I suppose, which amounts to the same result as not signing) Appleton suggests IRL meet-ups are key here for the signing. Reminds me of the 'parties' where we'd sign / vouch for each others SSL certs. Or how already in Threema IRL meet-ups are used to verify Threema profiles as mutually trusted. Noosphere is more than this though? It would replace the current web with its own layer. (and issues). Like Maggie Appleton mentions Dead Internet Theory

Noosphere was presented at the Render conf on tools for thought. There's overlap with Boris' work on IPFS, judging by his tweets he's involved in this effort too.

This Noosphere Explainer explains the tech used, not the 'massive-multiplayer knowledge graph' it is posited to be, how that would come about with this tech, or what that is meant to be for.

i agree that in some cases people on social media have been radicalized, have become terrible. but i do not blame the platform, and don't think there's anything inherently rotten about them.

almost sorry to say it, but i think big social is kind of ok? mostly it's pretty harmless. use protection, some tracking blocking software. but a lot of people have very fine, very enjoyable or very ok experiences, connecting reasonably in many cases primarily or mostly with people they know. big social has been incredibly valuable at connecting us.

its not "all toxic as fuck." i think there is good & good uses we have to acknowledge. focusing only on the bad of things delegitimizes the things we have to say. i believe strongly that we're missing a lot of good, but overall, i think the bad being done is fairly mild, that toxic-leaning people are going to mis-use and abuse most systems, that the personal-data is often significantly oversold & overrated. i have a lot of technical hopes for what i hope & think might be on the frontiers, what we might do, and i want to replace big social. let the good compel us. let's think of what we want. let's not fall to despair. resist radicalizing yourself but immerse yourself in practice, in trying things, in understanding connecting with people.

there's a solid enough conceptual idea here, that society ought be able to voice some sense, direct & govern the platforms forward & along & upwards. there is something lacking, certainly, in that the companies have nothing to listen to, are so alone. (oh yes there are voices but it's a chaos of voices, there's no scheme for guiding oneself through, so the entity must keep picking for itself what to do.)

still though,

It sounds a little dystopian, I’ll grant.

no. it sounds a lot dystopian. very very dystopian.

society could use means to weave together coherence, to establish a democratic growth, proclaim the unity it does have. celebrates, accepts & socializes core things to itself.

where's the line though? every output generates a feedback loop with the hivemind, turning into input to ourselves with our cracking, overwhelmed, filters

it's unrealistic to wish everyone to see jokes are jokes, to rely on journalists to generate unbiased facts, and politicians as self serving leeches, err that's my bias speaking