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Reviewer #1 (Public Review):
Summary:
This manuscript reports the effects of a heterozygous mutation in the KCNT1 potassium channels on the properties of ion currents and firing behavior of excitatory and inhibitory neurons in the cortex of mice expressing KCNT1-Y777H. In humans, this mutation as well as multiple other heterozygotic mutations produce very severe early-onset seizures and produce a major disruption of all intellectual function. In contrast, in mice, this heterozygous mutation appears to have no behavioral phenotype or any increased propensity to seizures. A relevant phenotype is, however, evident in mice with the homozygous mutation, and the authors have previously published the results of similar experiments with the homozygotes. As perhaps expected, the neuronal effects of the heterozygous mutation presented in this manuscript are generally similar but markedly smaller than the previously published findings on homozygotes. There are, however, some interesting differences, particularly on PV+ interneurons, which appear to be more excitable than wild type in the heterozygotes but more excitable in the heterozygotes. This raises the interesting question, which has been explicitly discussed by the authors in the revised manuscript, as to whether the reported changes represent homeostatic events that suppress the seizure phenotype in the mouse heterozygotes or simply changes in excitability that do not reach the threshold for behavioral outcomes.
Strengths and Weaknesses:
(1) The authors find that the heterozygous mutation in PV+ interneurons increases their excitability, a result that is opposite from their previous observation in neurons with the corresponding homozygous mutation. They propose that this results from the selective upregulation of a persistent sodium current INaP in the PV+ interneurons. These observations are very interesting ones, and they raised some issues in the original submission:
A) The protocol for measuring the INaP current could potentially lead to results that could be (mis)interpreted in different ways in different cells. First, neither K currents nor Ca currents are blocked in these experiments. Instead, TTX is applied to the cells relatively rapidly (within 1 second) and the ramp protocol is applied immediately thereafter. It is stated that, at this time, Na currents and INaP are fully blocked but that any effects on Na-activated K currents are minimal. In theory this would allow the pre- to post- difference current to represent a relatively uncontaminated INaP. This would, however, only work if activation of KNa currents following Na entry is very slow, taking many seconds. A good deal of literature has suggested that the kinetics of activation of KNa currents by Na influx vary substantially between cell types, such that single action potentials and single excitatory synaptic events rapidly evoke KNa currents in some cell types. This is, of course, much faster than the time of TTX application. Most importantly, the kinetics of KNa activation may be different in different neuronal types, which would lead to errors that could produce different estimates of INaP in PV+ interneurons vs other cell types.
In their revised manuscript, the authors have provided good data demonstrating that, at least for the PV and SST neurons, loss of KNa currents after TTX application is slow relative to the time course of loss of INaP, justifying the use of this protocol for these neuronal types.
B) As the authors recognize, INaP current provides a major source of cytoplasmic sodium ions for the activation. An expected outcome of increased INaP is, therefore, further activation of KNa currents, rather than a compensatory increase in an inward current that counteracts the increase in KNa currents, as is suggested in the discussion.
The authors comment in the rebuttal that, despite the fact that sodium entry through INaP is known to activate KNa channels, an increase in INaP does not necessarily imply increased KNa current. This issue should be addressed directly somewhere in the text, perhaps most appropriately in the discussion.
C) The numerical simulations, in general, provide a very useful way to evaluate the significance of experimental findings. Nevertheless, while the in-silico modeling suggests that increases in INaP can increase firing rate in models of PV+ neurons, there is as yet insufficient information on the relative locations of the INaP channels and the kinetics of sodium transfer to KNa channels to evaluate the validity of this specific model.
The authors have now put in all of the appropriate caveats on this very nicely in the revised manuscript.
(2) The effects of the KCNT1 channel blocker VU170 on potassium currents are somewhat larger and different from those of TTX, suggesting that additional sources of sodium may contribute to activating KCNT1, as suggested by the authors. Because VU170 is, however, a novel pharmacological agent, it may be appropriate to make more careful statements on this. While the original published description of this compound reported no effect on a variety of other channels, there are many that were not tested, including Na and cation channels that are known to activate KCNT1, raising the possibility of off-target effects.
In the revised version, the authors have added more to the manuscript on this issue and have added a very clear discussion of this to the text (in the discussion section).
This is a very clear and thorough piece of work, and the authors are to be congratulated on this. My one remaining suggestion would be to make an explicit statement about whether increased sodium influx through INaP channels, which is thought to activate KNa channels, would be likely to increase KNa current in these neurons (see comment 1B).
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Reviewer #2 (Public Review):
Summary:
In this manuscript, Shore et al. investigate the consequent changes in excitability and synaptic efficacy of diverse neuronal populations in an animal model of juvenile epilepsy. Using electrophysiological patch-clamp recordings from dissociated neuronal cultures, the authors find diverging changes in two major populations of inhibitory cell types, namely somatostatin (SST)- and parvalbumin (PV)-positive interneurons, in mice expressing a variant of the KCNT1 potassium channel. They further suggest that the differential effects are due to a compensatory increase in the persistent sodium current in PV interneurons in pharmacological and in silico experiments. It remains unclear why this current is selectively enhanced in PV-interneurons.
Strengths:
(1) Heterozygous KCNT1 gain of function variant was used which more accurately models the human disorder.
(2) The manuscript is clearly written, and the flow is easy to follow. The authors explicitly state the similarities and differences between the current findings and the previously published results in the homozygous KCNT1 gain of function variant.
(3) This study uses a variety of approaches including patch clamp recording, in silico modeling and pharmacology that together make the claims stronger.
(4) Pharmacological experiments are fraught with off-target effects and thus it bolsters the authors' claims when multiple channel blockers (TTX and VU170) are used to reconstruct the sodium-activated potassium current.
Weaknesses:
(1) This study mostly relies on recordings in dissociated cortical neurons. Although specific WT interneurons showed intrinsic membrane properties like those reported for acute brain slices, it is unclear whether the same will be true for those cells expressing KCNT1 variants, especially when the excitability changes are thought to arise from homeostatic compensatory mechanisms. The authors do confirm that mutant SST-interneurons are hypoexcitable using an ex vivo slice preparation which is consistent with work for other KCTN1 gain of function variants (e.g. Gertler et al., 2022). However, the key missing evidence is the excitability state of mutant PV-interneurons, given the discrepant result of reduced excitability of PV cells reported by Gertler et al in acute hippocampal slices.
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Reviewer #3 (Public Review):
Summary:
The present manuscript by Shore et al. entitled Reduced GABAergic Neuron Excitability, Altered Synaptic Connectivity, and Seizures in a KCNT1 Gain-of-Function Mouse Model of Childhood Epilepsy" describes in vitro and in silico results obtained in cortical neurons from mice carrying the KCNT1-Y777H gain-of-function (GOF) variant in the KCNT1 gene encoding for a subunit of the Na+-activated K+ (KNa) channel. This variant corresponds to the human Y796H variant found in a family with Autosomal Dominant Nocturnal Frontal lobe epilepsy. The occurrence of GOF variants in potassium channel encoding genes is well known, and among potential pathophysiological mechanisms, impaired inhibition has been documented as responsible for KCNT1-related DEEs. Therefore, building on a previous study by the same group performed in homozygous KI animals, and considering that the largest majority of pathogenic KCNT1 variants in humans occur in heterozygosis, the Authors have investigated the effects of heterozygous Kcnt1-Y777H expression on KNa currents and neuronal physiology among cortical glutamatergic and the 3 main classes of GABAergic neurons, namely those expressing vasoactive intestinal polypeptide (VIP), somatostatin (SST), and parvalbumin (PV), crossing KCNT1-Y777H mice with PV-, SST- and PV-cre mouse lines, and recording from GABAergic neurons identified by their expression of mCherry (but negative for GFP used to mark excitatory neurons).
The results obtained revealed heterogeneous effects of the variant on KNa and action potential firing rates in distinct neuronal subpopulations, ranging from no change (glutamatergic and VIP GABAergic) to decreased excitability (SST GABAergic) to increased excitability (PV GABAergic). In particular, modelling and in vitro data revealed that an increase in persistent Na current occurring in PV neurons was sufficient to overcome the effects of KCNT1 GOF and cause an overall increase in AP generation.
Strengths:
The paper is very well written, the results clearly presented and interpreted, and the discussion focuses on the most relevant points.<br /> The recordings performed in distinct neuronal subpopulations (both in primary neuronal cultures and, for some subpopulations, in cortical slices, are a clear strength of the paper. The finding that the same variant can cause opposite effects and trigger specific homeostatic mechanisms in distinct neuronal populations is very relevant for the field, as it narrows the existing gap between experimental models and clinical evidence.
Weaknesses:
My main concern regarding the epileptic phenotype of the heterozygous mice investigated has been clarified in the revision, where the infrequent occurrence of seizures is more clearly stated. Also, a more detailed statistical analysis of the modeled neurons has been added in the revision.
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Reviewer #1 (Public Review):
Summary:
Using chromaffin cells as a powerful model system for studying secretion, the authors study the regulatory role of complexin in secretion. Complexin is still enigmatic in its regulatory role, as it both provides inhibitory and facilitatory functions in release. The authors perform an extensive structure-function analysis of both the C- and N-terminal regions of complexin. There are several interesting findings that significantly advances our understanding of cpx/SNARe interactions in regulating release. C-terminal amphipathic helix interferes with SNARE complex assembly and thus clamps fusion. There are acidic residues in the C-term that may be seen as putative interaction partners for Synaptotagmin. The N-terminus of Complexin promoting role may be associated with an interaction with Syt1. In particular the putative interaction with Syt1 is of high interest and supported by quite strong functional and biochemical evidence. The experimental approaches are state of the art, and the results are of the highest quality and convincing throughout. They are adequate and intelligently discussed in the rich context of the standing literature. Whilst there are some concerns about whether the facilitatory actions of complexion have to be tightly linked to Syt1 interactions, the proposed model will significantly advance the field by providing new directions in future research.
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Reviewer #2 (Public Review):
Summary:
Complexin (Cplx) is expressed at nearly all chemical synapses. Mammalian Cplx comes in four different paralogs which are differentially expressed in different neurons or secretory cell types, either selectively or in combination with one or two other Cplx isoforms. Cplx binds with high affinity to assembled SNARE complexes and promotes evoked synchronous release. Cplx is assumed to preclude premature SV fusion by preventing full SNARE assembly, thereby arresting subsequent SNARE-driven fusion ("fusion-clamp" theory). The protein has multiple domains, the functions of which are controversially discussed. Cplx's function has been studied in a variety of model organisms including mouse, fly, worm, and fish with seemingly conflicting results which led to partly contradicting conclusions.<br /> Makee et al. study the function of mammalian Cplx2 in chromaffin cells by making use of Cplx2 ko mice to overexpress and functionally characterize mutant Cplx2 forms in cultured chromaffin cells. The main conclusion of the present study are:
The hydrophobic character of the amphipathic helix in Cplx's C-terminal domain is essential for inhibiting premature vesicle fusion at a [Ca2+]i of several hundreds of nM (pre-flash [Ca2+]i). The Cplx-mediated inhibition of fusion under these conditions does not rely on expression of either Syt1 or Syt7.
Slow-down of exocytosis by N-terminally truncated Cplx mutants in response to a [Ca2+]i of several µM (peak flash [Ca2+]i) occurs regardless of the presence or absence of Syt7 demonstrating that Cplx2 does not act as a switch favoring preferential assembly of the release machinery with Syt1,2 rather than the "slow" sensor Syt7.
Cplx's N-terminal domain is required for the Cplx2-mediated increase in the speed of exocytosis and faster onset of exocytosis which likely reflect an increased apparent Ca2+ sensitivity and faster Ca2+ binding of the release machinery.
Strengths:
The authors perform systematic truncation/mutational analyses of Cplx2. They analyze the impact of single and combined deficiencies for Cplx2 and Syt1 to establish interactions of both proteins.<br /> State-of-the-art methods are employed: Vesicle exocytosis is assayed directly and with high resolution using capacitance measurements. Intracellular [Ca2+] is controlled by loading via the patch-pipette and by UV-light induced flash-photolysis of caged [Ca2+]. The achieved [Ca2+ ] is measured with Ca2+ -sensitive dyes.<br /> The data is of high quality and the results are compelling.
Weaknesses:
With the exception of mammalian retinal ribbon synapses (and some earlier RNAi knock down studies which had off-target effects), there is little experimental evidence for a "fusion-clamp"-like function of Cplxs at mammalian synapses. At conventional mammalian synapses, genetic loss of Cplx (i.e. KO) consistently decreases AP-evoked release, and generally either also decreases spontaneous release rates or does not affect spontaneous release, which is inconsistent with a "fusion-clamp" theory. This is in stark contrast to invertebrate (D. m. and C. e.) synapses where genetic Cplx loss is generally associated with a strong upregulation of spontaneous release.
There are alternative scenarios explaining how Cplx may phenomenological "clamp" vesicle fusion rates without mechanistically assigning a "clamping" function to Cplx (Neher 2010, Neuron). In fact, changes in asynchronous release kinetics following conditioning AP trains observed at Cplx1 ko calyx of Held synapses do not favor a "fusion clamp" model (Chang et al., 2015, J.Neurosci.), while an alternative model, assigning Cplx the role of a "checkpoint" protein in SNARE assembly, quantitatively reproduces all experimental observations (Lopez et al., 2024, PNAS). It might be helpful for a reader to mention such alternative scenarios.
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Summary:
In this research, Soni and Frank investigate the network mechanisms underlying capacity limitations in working memory from a new perspective, with a focus on visual working memory (VWM). The authors have advanced beyond the classical neural network model, which incorporates the prefrontal cortex and basal ganglia (PBWM), by introducing an adaptive chunking variant. This model is trained using a biologically plausible, dopaminergic reinforcement learning framework. The adaptive chunking mechanism is particularly well-suited to the VWM tasks involving continuous stimuli and elegantly integrates the 'slot' and 'resource' theories of working memory constraints. The chunk-augmented PBWM operates as a slot-like system with resource-like limitations.
Through numerical simulations under various conditions, Soni and Frank demonstrate the performance of the chunk-augmented PBWM model surpasses the no-chunk control model. The improvements are evident in enhanced effective capacity, optimized resource management, and reduced error rates. The retention of these benefits, even with increased capacity allocation, suggests that working memory limitations are due to a combination of factors, including the efficient credit assignments that are learned flexibly through reinforcement learning. In essence, this work addresses fundamental questions related to a computational working memory limitation using a biologically-inspired neural network, and thus has implications for clinical conditions in which working memory is affected, such as Parkinson's disease, ADHD, and schizophrenia.
Strengths:
The integration of mechanistic flexibility, reconciling two theories for WM capacity into a single unified model, results in a neural network that is both more adaptive and human-like. Building on the PBWM framework ensures the robustness of the findings. The addition of the chunking mechanism tailors the original model for continuous visual stimuli. Chunk-stripe mechanisms contribute to the 'resource' aspect, while input-stripes contribute to the 'slot' aspect. This combined network architecture enables flexible and diverse computational functions, enhancing performance beyond that of the classical model.
Moreover, unlike previous studies that design networks for specific task demands, the proposed network model can dynamically adapt to varying task demands by optimizing the chunking gating policy through RL.
The implementation of a dopaminergic reinforcement learning protocol, as opposed to a hard-wired design, leads to the emergence of strategic gating mechanisms that enhance the network's computational flexibility and adaptability. These gating strategies are vital for VWM tasks and are developed in a manner consistent with ecological and evolutionary learning held by humans. Further examination of how reward prediction error signals, both positive and negative, collaborate to refine gating strategies reveals the crucial role of reward feedback in fine-tuning the working memory computations and the model's behavior, aligning with the current neuroscientific understanding that reward matters.
Furthermore, assessing the impact of a healthy balance of dopaminergic reward prediction error signals on information manipulation holds implications for patients with altered striatal dopaminergic signaling.
Weaknesses:
While I appreciate the novelty of the idea presented in this paper, which aligns with common interests in cognitive neuroscience, I believe there are several areas that require further clarification.
First, the method section appears somewhat challenging to follow. To enhance clarity, it might be beneficial to include a figure illustrating the overall model architecture. This visual aid could provide readers with a clearer understanding of the overall network model.
Additionally, the structure depicted in Figure 2 could be potentially confusing. Notably, the absence of an arrow pointing from the thalamus to the PFC and the apparent presence of two separate pathways, one from sensory input to the PFC and another from sensory input to the BG and then to the thalamus, may lead to confusion. While I recognize that Figure 2 aims to explain network gating, there is room for improvement in presenting the content accurately.
Still, for the method part, it would enhance clarity to explicitly differentiate between predesigned (fixed) components and trainable components. Specifically, does the supplementary material state that synaptic connection weights in striatal units (Go&NoGo) are trained using XCAL, while other components, such as those in the PFC and lateral inhibition, are not trained (I found some sentences in 'Limitations and Future Directions')?
I'm not sure about the training process shown in Figure 8. It appears that the training may not have been completed, given that the blue line representing the chunk stripe is still ascending at the endpoint. The weights depicted in panel d) seem to correspond with those shown in panels b) and c), no? Then, how is the optimization process determined to be finished? Alternatively, could it be stated that these weight differences approach a certain value asymptotically? It would be better to clarify the convergence criteria of the optimization process.
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Reviewer #1 (Public Review):
Summary:
This paper represents a huge amount of work on a condition whose patients' health and well-being have not always been prioritized, and only relatively recently has the immune dysregulation seen in patients with Down Syndrome (DS) been garnering major research interest.
This paper provides an unparalleled examination of immune disorders in patients with DS. The authors also report the results from a clinical trial with the JAK inhibitor tofacitinib in DS patients.
Strengths:
This manuscript reports a herculean effort and provides an unparalleled examination of immune disorders in a large number of patients with DS.
Weaknesses:
Not a major weakness but, apart from finding an elevation of CD4 T central memory cells and more differentiated plasmablast, several of the alterations reported in this manuscript had already been suggested by a few case reports and a very small series. On the other hand, the number of patients (and controls) utilized for this study is remarkable and allows for drawing much firmer conclusions.
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Reviewer #2 (Public Review):
In this manuscript, Rachubinski and colleagues provide a comprehensive clinical, immunological, and autoantibody assessment of autoimmune/inflammatory manifestations of patients with Down syndrome (DS) in a large number of patients with this disorder. These analyses confirm prior results of excess interferon and cytokine signals in DS patients and extend these observations to highlight early-onset immunological aberrancies, far before symptoms occur, as well as characterizing novel autoantibody reactivities in this patient population. Then, the authors report the interim analysis of an open-label, Phase II, clinical trial of the JAK1/3 inhibitor, tofacitinib, that aims to define the safety, clinical efficacy, and immunological outcomes of DS patients who suffer from inflammatory conditions of the skin. The clinical trial analysis indicates that the treatment is tolerated without serious adverse effects and that the majority of patients have experienced clinical improvement or remission in their corresponding clinical cutaneous manifestations as well as improvement or normalization of aberrant immunological signals such as cytokines.
The major strength of the study is the recruitment and uniform, systematic evaluation of an impressive number of DS patients. Moreover, the promising early results from the tofacitinib clinical trial pave the way for analysis of a larger number of patients within the Phase II trial and otherwise, which may lead to improved clinical outcomes for affected patients. An inherent weakness of such studies is the descriptive nature of several parameters and the relatively small size of tofacitinib-treated DS patients. However, the descriptive nature of some of the correlative research analyses is of scientific interest and is useful to generate hypotheses for future additional (including mechanistic) work, and treatment of 10 DS patients in a formal clinical trial at interim analysis is not a trivial task for a disease like this. The manuscript achieves the aims of the authors and the results support their conclusions. The authors appropriately acknowledge areas that require more research and areas that are not well understood. The results are represented in a useful manner and statistical methods and analyses appear sound.
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Reviewer #3 (Public Review):
Summary:
Individuals with Down syndrome (DS) have high rates of autoimmunity and can have exaggerated immune responses to infection that can unfortunately cause significant medical complications. Prior studies from these authors and others have convincingly demonstrated that individuals with DS have immune dysregulation including increased Type I IFN activity, elevated production of inflammatory cytokines (hypercytokinemia), increased autoantibodies, and populations of dysregulated adaptive immune cells that pre-dispose to autoimmunity. Prior studies have demonstrated that using JAK inhibitors to treat patient samples in vitro, in small case series of patients, and in mouse models of DS leads to improvement of immune phenotype and/or clinical disease. This manuscript provides two major advances in our understanding of immune dysregulation and therapy for patients. First, they perform deep immune phenotyping on several hundred individuals with DS and demonstrate that immune dysregulation is present from infancy. Second, they report a promising interim analysis of a Phase II clinical trial of a JAK inhibitor in 10 people with DS and moderate to severe skin autoimmunity.
Strengths and weaknesses:
The relatively large cohort and careful clinical annotation here provide new insights into the immune phenotype of patients with DS. For example, it is interesting that regardless of autoimmune disease or autoantibody status, individuals with DS have elevated cytokines and CRP. Analysis of the cohorts by age demonstrated that some cytokines are significantly elevated in people with DS starting in infancy (e.g., IL-9 and IL-17C). Nearly all adults with DS in this study had autoantibodies (98%) and most had six or more autoantibodies (63%), which differed significantly from euploid study participants. This implies that all patients with DS might benefit from early intervention with therapy to reduce inflammation. However, it is also worth considering that an alternative interpretation that since hypercytokinemia does not vary based on disease state in individuals with DS, this may not be a key factor driving autoimmunity (although it may be relevant for other clinical symptoms such as neuroinflammation).
Small case series have suggested the benefit of JAK inhibitors to treat autoimmunity in DS. This is the first report of a prospective clinical trial to test a JAK inhibitor in this setting. The clinical trial entry criteria included moderate to severe autoimmune skin disease in patients aged 12-50 years with DS, and treatment was with the JAK1/3 inhibitor tofacitinib. This clinical trial is a critically important step for the field. The early results support that treatment is well tolerated with an improvement of interferon scores in patients and reduction of autoantibodies. Most patients experienced clinical improvement, with alopecia areata having the greatest response. Treatment may not affect all skin diseases equally, for example of the 5 patients with hidradenitis suppurativa, only 1 showed clinical improvement based on skin score. While very promising, the clinical trial results reported here are preliminary and based on an interim analysis of 10 patients at 16 weeks. Individuals with DS have a lifelong risk of immune dysregulation and thus it is unclear how long therapy, if of benefit, would need to be continued. The results of longer-term therapy will be informative when considering the risks/benefits of this therapy.
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Joint Public Review
Cav1.4 calcium channels control voltage-dependent calcium influx at photoreceptor synapses, and congenital loss of Cav1.4 function causes stationary night blindness CSNB2. Based on a broad portfolio of methodological approaches - genetic mouse models, immunolabeling and microscopic imaging, serial block-face-SEM, ERGs, and electrophysiology - the authors show that cone photoreceptor synapse development is strongly perturbed in the absence of Cav1.4 protein, and that expression of a nonconducting Cav1.4 channel mitigates these perturbations. Further data indicate that Cav3 channels are present, which, according to the authors, may compensate for the loss of Cav1.4 calcium currents and thus maintain cone synaptic transmission. These data, which are in agreement with a similar study by the same authors on rod photoreceptor synapses, help to explain what functional defects exactly cause CSNB2 and why it is accompanied by only mild visual impairment.
The strengths of the present study are its conceptual and experimental soundness, the broad spectrum of cutting-edge methodological approaches pursued, and the convincing differential analysis of mutant phenotypes. Weaknesses mainly concern the mechanism by which Cav3 channels might partially compensate for the loss of Cav1.4 calcium currents.
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Reviewer #1 (Public Review):
Summary:<br /> In this manuscript the authors use the model organism Drosophila to explore sex and age impacts of a TBI method. They find age and sex differences: older age is susceptible to mild TBI and females are also more susceptible. In particular, they pursue a finding that virgin vs mated females show different responses: virgins are protected but mated females succumb to TBI with climbing deficits. In fact, virgin females compared to mated females are largely protected. They discover this is associated with exposure of the females to Sex Peptide in the reproductive neurons of the female reproductive tract. When they extend to RNAseq of brains, they show that there are very few genes in common between males, mated females, virgins and females mated with males lacking sex peptide. But what the few chronic genes associated with mated females seem associated with the immune system. These findings suggest that mated females have a compromised immune system, which might make them more vulnerable. In a bigger context, these findings point to the idea that the life status of the animal/individual may have an important impact on the outcome of a TBI - here illustrated by the differential state of virgin vs mated females in Drosophila.
Strengths:<br /> This is an interesting paper that allows a detailed comparison of sex and age in TBI which is largely only possible in such a simple model, where large numbers and many variations can be addressed. Overall the findings are interesting.
Weaknesses:<br /> Although the findings beyond Sex peptide are observational, the work sets the stage for more detailed studies to pursue the role of the genes they find by RNAseq and whether for example, boosting the innate immune system would protect the mated females, among other experiments.
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Reviewer #2 (Public Review):
Summary:<br /> In this manuscript, the authors use the Drosophila model system to study the impact of mild head trauma on sex-dependent brain deficits. They identify Sex Peptide as a modulator of greater negative outcomes in female flies. Additionally, they observe that increased age at the time of injury results in worse outcomes, especially in females, and that this is due to chronic suppression of innate immune defense networks in mated females. The results demonstrate a novel signaling pathway that promotes age- and sex-dependent outcomes after head injury.
Strengths:<br /> The authors have modified their previously reported TBI model in flies to mimic mild TBI, which is novel. Methods are explained in detail, allowing for reproducibility. Experiments are rigorous with appropriate statistics. A number if important controls are included. The work tells a complete mechanistic story and adds important data to increase our understanding of sex-dependent differences in recovery after TBI. The Discussion is comprehensive and puts the work in context of the field.
Weaknesses: None<br /> The authors answered the following concerns, and I have no other concerns:<br /> A very minor weakness is that exact n values should be included in the figure legends. There should also be confirmation of knockdown by RNAi in female flies either by immunohistochemistry or qRT-PCR if possible.
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Reviewer #3 (Public Review):
Summary:<br /> In this manuscript, the authors used a Drosophila model to show that exposure to repetitive mild TBI causes neurodegenerative conditions that emerge late in life and disproportionately affect females. In addition to the well-known age-dependent impact, the authors identified Sex Peptide (SP) signaling as a key factor in female susceptibility to post-injury brain deficits.
Strengths:<br /> The authors have presented a compelling set of results showing that female sex peptide signaling adversely affects late-life neurodegeneration after early-life exposure to repetitive mild head injury in Drosophila. They have compared the phenotypes of adult male and female flies sustaining TBI at different ages, and the phenotypes of virgin females and mated females, 2) compared the phenotypes of eliminating SP signaling in mating females and introducing SP-signaling into virgin females, 3) compared transcriptomic changes of different groups in response to TBI. The results are generally consistent and robust.
Weaknesses:<br /> The authors have made their claims largely based on assaying climbing index and vacuole formation as the only indicators of late-life neurodegeneration after TBI. Furthermore, it is also really surprising to see so few DEGs even in wild-type males and mated females and to see that none of DEGs overlap among groups or are even related to the SP-signaling. The authors state that the reason is their TBI is very minor. It is critical to independently verify their RNA-sequencing results and to add some more molecular evidence to support their conclusion. Finally, since similar sex peptide signaling is not present in mammalians or humans, its implication in humans remains unclear.
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Reviewer #1 (Public Review):
The manuscript by Hong-Qian Chen and collaborators describes the development of a mouse model that co-expresses a fluorescent protein ZsGreen marker in gene fusion with the Fshr gene.
The authors are correct in that there is a lack of reliable antibodies against many of the GPCR family members. The approach is novel and interesting, with a potential to help understand the expression pattern of gonadotropin receptors. There has been a very long debate about the expression of gonadotropin receptors in other tissues other than gonads. While their expression of the Fshr in some of those tissues has been detected by a variety of methods, their physiological, or pathophysiological, function(s) remain elusive.
The authors in this manuscript assume that the expression of ZsGren and the Fshr are equal. While this is correct genetically (transcription->translation) it does not go hand in hand to other posttranslational processes.
One of the shocking observations in this manuscript is the expression of Fshr in Leydig cells. Other observations are in the osteoblasts and endothelial cells as well as epithelial cells in different organs. The expression of ZsGreen in these tissues seems high and one shall start questioning if there are other mechanisms at play here.
First, the turnover of fluorescent proteins is long, longer than 48h, which means that they accumulate at a different speed than the endogenous Fshr. This means that ZsGreen will accumulate in time while the Fshr receptor might be degraded almost immediately. This correlated with mRNA expression (by the authors) but does not with the results of other studies in single-cell sequencing (see below).
Then, the expression of ZsGreen in Leydig cells seems much higher than in Sertoli cells, this is "disturbing" to put it mildly. This is visible in both, the ZsGreen expression and the FISH assay (Fig 2 B-D).
The expression in WAT and BAT is also questionable as the expression of ZsGreen is high everywhere. What makes it difficult to actually believe that the images are truly informative? For example, the stainings of the aorta show the ZsGreen expression where elastin and collagen fibres are - these are not "cells" and therefore are not expressing ZsGreen.
FISH expression (for Fshr) in WT mice is missing.
Also, the tissue sections were stained with the IgG only (neg control) but in practice both the KI and the WT tissues should be stained with the primary and secondary antibodies.
The only control that I could think of to truly get a sense of this would be a tagged receptor (N-terminal) that could then be analysed by immunohistochemistry.
The authors also claim:<br /> To functionally prove the presence of Fshr in osteoblasts/osteocytes, we also deleted Fshr in osteocytes using an inducible model. The conditional knockout of Fshr triggered a much more profound increase in bone mass and decrease in fat mass than blockade by Fsh antibodies (unpublished data)
This would be a good control for all their images. I think it is necessary to make the large claim of extragonadal expression, as well as intragonadal such as Leydig cells.
Claiming that the under-developed Leydig cells in FSHR KO animals is due to a direct effect of the FSHR, and not via a cross-talk between Sertoli and Leydig cells, is too much of a claim. It might be speculated to some degree but as written at the moment is suggests this is "proven".
We also do not know if this Fshr expressed is a spliced form that would also result in the expression of ZsGreen but in a non-functional Fshr, or whether the Fshr is immediately degraded after expression. The insertion of the ZsGreen might have disturbed the epigenetics, transcription or biosynthesis of the mRNA regulation.
The authors should go through single-cell data of WT mice to show the existence of the Fshr transcript(s). For example here:<br /> https://www.nature.com/articles/sdata2018192
Comments after revision:
The response by the authors does not seem sufficient or adequate, by any length, for what one would expect for a work having such a large claim as the expression of the Fshr in multiple cell types and organs. It is not the fact that Fshr might be expressed extragonadally or even by other cells in the gonads, but the surprising images where virtually every cell in the provided tissues, and not only cells but structures, glows green.
It is not possible to know, as a reviewer, whether the excitation intensity and exposure for all images is equal. We believe that they cannot be, as control organs such as fat, testes, ovaries, and vasculature have a natural fluorescence background.
Leydig cells cannot simply express more Fshr than Sertoli cells, that would go against what we have known for >50 years in physiology. While it is scientific to question 'old' data, to make extraordinary claims there is a need for "extraordinary evidence". There is very low expression in Sertoli cells (Fig 2) while Leydig cells and spermatozoa glow vividly.
Moreover, even the tails of spermatozoa glow! This is not cytoplasm and cannot contain a soluble fluorescent protein.
The controls should be shown side-by-side to the experimental images. It would be a lot more credible if the WT and the KI tissues were placed on the same slide, with images taken from them side by side not only for ZsGreen but antibody immunofluorescence staining.
Moreover, I noticed that the entire manuscript is based on a single founder mouse, which is not acceptable as an error - either multiple integrations other than in the correct locus or genetic instability created by the KI integration would result in promiscuous expression. The founder mouse is not well enough characterised as it is only performed by Southern blots and PCR, while additional integrations cannot be detected by such. Other methods should be used such as FISH or even whole genome sequencing. Yet, several lines should be used to ensure no other effects exist.
In Fig 5, the section of aorta shows low staining in the elastin/collagen fibres, while there is clearly in Suppl Data 2. In the same figure, the 2nd lung images show green fluorescence in the mucosa (centre) which should not be as there is no cells there.
The additional single-cell data does not truly support their claims, in the sense that while some of the data might go in line e.g. Leydig cells showing as high expression as "tubules", there are many other cell types that show no expression such as hepatocytes and skeletal muscle, where the authors claim to have high expression of Fshr. Moreover, in the datasets presented organs like "ovary" have almost no Fshr expression, which should question the validity of such.
The authors use an Fshr antibody without enough validation. The Fshr KO animals should be used for this. In fact, one of the very first statements in the manuscript is that antibodies against GPCRs in general, and gonadotropin receptors more specifically, are unreliable. The fact that controls show the same pattern as transgenic animals questions the validity, as no single acceptable antibody against FSHR recognises Leydig cells.
The detection of Fshr in e.g. adipocytes of B6 mice is as questionable as many other claims of gonadotropin receptors in extragonadal tissues, which has been questioned a number of times by many researchers.
One question we should ask is, is there any tissue on these mice that does not 'express' (Fshr)-ZsGreen? Because from what I see every single tissue analysed has 'Fshr". Which might be the problem why it is so difficult to find.
Some images seem to be duplicated such as in Fig 2C where the first row and the 3rd row seem to be the same image.
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Ctnnb1 encodes β-catenin, an essential component of the canonical Wnt signaling pathway. In this study, the authors identify an upstream enhancer of Ctnnb1 responsible for the specific expression level of β-catenin in the gastrointestinal tract. Deletion of this promoter in mice and analyses of its association with human colorectal tumors support that it controls the dosage of Wnt signaling critical to the homeostasis in intestinal epithelia and colorectal cancers.
Strengths:
This study has provided convincing evidence to demonstrate the functions of a gastrointestinal enhancer of Ctnnb1 using combined approaches of bioinformatics, genomics, in vitro cell culture models, mouse genetics, and human genetics. The results support the idea that the dosage of Wnt/β-catenin signaling plays an important role in the pathophysiological functions of intestinal epithelia. The experimental designs are solid and the data presented are of high quality. This study significantly contributes to the research fields of Wnt signaling, tissue-specific enhancers, and intestinal homeostasis.
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One weakness of this manuscript is an insufficient discussion on the Ctnnb1 enhancers for different tissues. For example, do specific DNA motifs and transcriptional factors contribute to the tissue-specificity of the neocortical and gastrointestinal enhancers? It is also worth discussing the potential molecular mechanisms controlling the gastrointestinal expression of Ctnnb1 in different species since the identified human and mouse enhancers don't seem to share significant similarities in primary sequences.
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Wnt signaling is the name given to a cell-communication mechanism that cells employ to inform on each other's position and identity during development. In cells that receive the Wnt signal from the extracellular environment, intracellular changes are triggered that cause the stabilization and nuclear translocation of β-catenin, a protein that can turn on groups of genes referred to as Wnt targets. Typically these are genes involved in cell proliferation. Genetic mutations that affect Wnt signaling components can therefore affect tissue expansion. Loss of function of APC is a drastic example: APC is part of the β-catenin destruction complex, and in its absence, β-catenin protein is not degraded and constitutively turns on proliferation genes, causing cancers in the colon and rectum. And here lies the importance of the finding: β-catenin has for long been considered to be regulated almost exclusively by tuning its protein turnover. In this article, a new aspect is revealed: Ctnnb1, the gene encoding for β-catenin, possesses tissue-specific regulation with transcriptional enhancers in its vicinity that drive its upregulation in intestinal stem cells. The observation that there is more active β-catenin in colorectal tumors not only because the broken APC cannot degrade it, but also because transcription of the Ctnnb1 gene occurs at higher rates, is novel and potentially game-changing. As genomic regulatory regions can be targeted, one could now envision that mutational approaches aimed at dampening Ctnnb1 transcription could be a viable additional strategy to treat Wnt-driven tumors.
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Reviewer #3 (Public Review):
The authors of this paper identify an enhancer upstream of the Ctnnb1 gene that selectively enhances expression in intestinal cells. This enhancer sequence drives expression of a reporter gene in the intestine and knockout of this enhancer attenuates Ctnnb1 expression in the intestine while protecting mice from intestinal cancers. The human counterpart of this enhancer sequence is functional and involved in tumorigenesis. Overall, this is an excellent example of how to fully characterize a cell-specific enhancer. The strength of the study is the thorough nature of the analysis and the relevance of the data to the development of intestinal tumors in both mice and humans. A minor weakness is that the loss of this enhancer does not completely compromise the expression of the Ctnnb1 gene in the intestine, suggesting that other elements are likely involved. Adding some discussion on that point would be helpful.
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The paper describes a program developed to identify PPI-hot spots using the free protein structure and compares it to FTMap and SPOTONE, two webservers that they consider as competitive approaches to the problem. We appreciate the effort in providing a new webserver that can be tested by the community but we continue to have major concerns:
(1) The comparison to the FTMap program is problematic. The authors misinterpret the article they refer to, i.e., Zerbe et al. "Relationship between hot spot residues and ligand binding hot spots in protein-protein interfaces" J. Chem. Inf. Model. 52, 2236-2244, (2012). FTMap identifies hot spots that bind small molecular ligands. The Zerbe et al. article shows that such hot spots tend to interact with hot spot residues on the partner protein in a protein-protein complex (emphasis on "partner"). Thus, the hot spots identified by FTMap are not the hot spots defined by the authors. In fact, because the Zerbe paper considers the partner protein in a complex, the results cannot be compared to the results of Chen et al. This difference is missed by the authors, and hence the comparison of the FTMap is invalid.
(2) Chen et al. use a number of usual features in a variety of simple machine-learning methods to identify hot spot residues. This approach has been used in the literature for more than a decade. Although the authors say that they were able to find only FTMap and SPOTONE as servers, there are dozens of papers that describe such a methodology. Some examples are given here: (Higa and Tozzi, 2009; Keskin, et al., 2005; Lise, et al., 2011; Tuncbag, et al., 2009; Xia, et al., 2010). There are certainly more papers. Thus, while the web server is a potentially useful contribution, the paper does not provide a fundamentally novel approach.
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Summary:
This study addresses the question of how task-relevant sensory information affects activity in the motor cortex. The authors use various approaches to address this question, looking at single units and population activity. They find that there are three subtypes of modulation by sensory information at the single unit level. Population analyses reveal that sensory information affects the neural activity orthogonally to motor output. The authors then compare both single unit and population activity to computational models to investigate how encoding of sensory information at the single unit level is coordinated in a network. They find that an RNN that displays similar orbital dynamics and sensory modulation to the motor cortex also contains nodes that are modulated similarly to the three subtypes identified by the single unit analysis.
Strengths:
The strengths of this study lie in the population analyses and the approach of comparing single-unit encoding to population dynamics. In particular, the analysis in Figure 3 is very elegant and informative about the effect of sensory information on motor cortical activity. The task is also well designed to suit the questions being asked and well controlled.
It is commendable that the authors compare single units to population modulation. The addition of the RNN model and perturbations strengthen the conclusion that the subtypes of individual units all contribute to the population dynamics. However, the subtypes (PD shift, gain, and addition) are not sufficiently justified. The authors also do not address that single units exhibit mixed modulation, but RNN units are not treated as such.
Weaknesses:
The main weaknesses of the study lie in the categorization of the single units into PD shift, gain, and addition types. The single units exhibit clear mixed selectivity, as the authors highlight. Therefore, the subsequent analyses looking only at the individual classes in the RNN are a little limited. Another weakness of the paper is that the choice of windows for analyses is not properly justified and the dependence of the results on the time windows chosen for single-unit analyses is not assessed. This is particularly pertinent because tuning curves are known to rotate during movements (Sergio et al. 2005 Journal of Neurophysiology).
This paper shows sensory information can affect motor cortical activity whilst not affecting motor output. However, it is not the first to do so and fails to cite other papers that have investigated sensory modulation of the motor cortex (Stavinksy et al. 2017 Neuron, Pruszynski et al. 2011 Nature, Omrani et al. 2016 eLife). These studies should be mentioned in the Introduction to capture better the context around the present study. It would also be beneficial to add a discussion of how the results compare to the findings from these other works.
This study also uses insights from single-unit analysis to inform mechanistic models of these population dynamics, which is a powerful approach, but is dependent on the validity of the single-cell analysis, which I have expanded on below.
I have clarified some of the areas that would benefit from further analysis below:
(1) Task:<br /> The task is well designed, although it would have benefited from perhaps one more target speed (for each direction). One monkey appears to have experienced one more target speed than the others (seen in Figure 3C). It would have been nice to have this data for all monkeys.
(2) Single unit analyses:<br /> In some analyses, the effects of target speed look more driven by target movement direction (e.g. Figures 1D and E). To confirm target speed is the main modulator, it would be good to compare how much more variance is explained by models including speed rather than just direction. More target speeds may have been helpful here too.
The choice of the three categories (PD shift, gain addition) is not completely justified in a satisfactory way. It would be nice to see whether these three main categories are confirmed by unsupervised methods.
The decoder analyses in Figure 2 provide evidence that target speed modulation may change over the trial. Therefore, it is important to see how the window considered for the firing rate in Figure 1 (currently 100ms pre - 100ms post movement onset) affects the results.
(3) Decoder:<br /> One feature of the task is that the reach endpoints tile the entire perimeter of the target circle (Figure 1B). However, this feature is not exploited for much of the single-unit analyses. This is most notable in Figure 2, where the use of a SVM limits the decoding to discrete values (the endpoints are divided into 8 categories). Using continuous decoding of hand kinematics would be more appropriate for this task.
(4) RNN:<br /> Mixed selectivity is not analysed in the RNN, which would help to compare the model to the real data where mixed selectivity is common. Furthermore, it would be informative to compare the neural data to the RNN activity using canonical correlation or Procrustes analyses. These would help validate the claim of similarity between RNN and neural dynamics, rather than allowing comparisons to be dominated by geometric similarities that may be features of the task. There is also an absence of alternate models to compare the perturbation model results to.
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Summary:
In this manuscript, Zhang et al. examine neural activity in the motor cortex as monkeys make reaches in a novel target interception task. Zhang et al. begin by examining the single neuron tuning properties across different moving target conditions, finding several classes of neurons: those that shift their preferred direction, those that change their modulation gain, and those that shift their baseline firing rates. The authors go on to find an interesting, tilted ring structure of the neural population activity, depending on the target speed, and find that (1) the reach direction has consistent positioning around the ring, and (2) the tilt of the ring is highly predictive of the target movement speed. The authors then model the neural activity with a single neuron representational model and a recurrent neural network model, concluding that this population structure requires a mixture of the three types of single neurons described at the beginning of the manuscript.
Strengths:
I find the task the authors present here to be novel and exciting. It slots nicely into an overall trend to break away from a simple reach-to-static-target task to better characterize the breadth of how the motor cortex generates movements. I also appreciate the movement from single neuron characterization to population activity exploration, which generally serves to anchor the results and make them concrete. Further, the orbital ring structure of population activity is fascinating, and the modeling work at the end serves as a useful baseline control to see how it might arise.
Weaknesses:
While I find the behavioral task presented here to be excitingly novel, I find the presented analyses and results to be far less interesting than they could be. Key to this, I think, is that the authors are examining this task and related neural activity primarily with a single-neuron representational lens. This would be fine as an initial analysis since the population activity is of course composed of individual neurons, but the field seems to have largely moved towards a more abstract "computation through dynamics" framework that has, in the last several years, provided much more understanding of motor control than the representational framework has. As the manuscript stands now, I'm not entirely sure what interpretation to take away from the representational conclusions the authors made (i.e. the fact that the orbital population geometry arises from a mixture of different tuning types). As such, by the end of the manuscript, I'm not sure I understand any better how the motor cortex or its neural geometry might be contributing to the execution of this novel task.
Main Comments:
My main suggestions to the authors revolve around bringing in the computation through a dynamics framework to strengthen their population results. The authors cite the Vyas et al. review paper on the subject, so I believe they are aware of this framework. I have three suggestions for improving or adding to the population results:
(1) Examination of delay period activity: one of the most interesting aspects of the task was the fact that the monkey had a random-length delay period before he could move to intercept the target. Presumably, the monkey had to prepare to intercept at any time between 400 and 800 ms, which means that there may be some interesting preparatory activity dynamics during this period. For example, after 400ms, does the preparatory activity rotate with the target such that once the go cue happens, the correct interception can be executed? There is some analysis of the delay period population activity in the supplement, but it doesn't quite get at the question of how the interception movement is prepared. This is perhaps the most interesting question that can be asked with this experiment, and it's one that I think may be quite novel for the field--it is a shame that it isn't discussed.
(2) Supervised examination of population structure via potent and null spaces: simply examining the first three principal components revealed an orbital structure, with a seemingly conserved motor output space and a dimension orthogonal to it that relates to the visual input. However, the authors don't push this insight any further. One way to do that would be to find the "potent space" of motor cortical activity by regression to the arm movement and examine how the tilted rings look in that space (this is actually fairly easy to see in the reach direction components of the dPCA plot in the supplement--the rings will be highly aligned in this space). Presumably, then, the null space should contain information about the target movement. dPCA shows that there's not a single dimension that clearly delineates target speed, but the ring tilt is likely evident if the authors look at the highest variance neural dimension orthogonal to the potent space (the "null space")--this is akin to PC3 in the current figures, but it would be nice to see what comes out when you look in the data for it.
(3) RNN perturbations: as it's currently written, the RNN modeling has promise, but the perturbations performed don't provide me with much insight. I think this is because the authors are trying to use the RNN to interpret the single neuron tuning, but it's unclear to me what was learned from perturbing the connectivity between what seems to me almost arbitrary groups of neurons (especially considering that 43% of nodes were unclassifiable). It seems to me that a better perturbation might be to move the neural state before the movement onset to see how it changes the output. For example, the authors could move the neural state from one tilted ring to another to see if the virtual hand then reaches a completely different (yet predictable) target. Moreover, if the authors can more clearly characterize the preparatory movement, perhaps perturbations in the delay period would provide even more insight into how the interception might be prepared.
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Reviewer #3 (Public Review):
Summary:
This experimental study investigates the influence of sensory information on neural population activity in M1 during a delayed reaching task. In the experiment, monkeys are trained to perform a delayed interception reach task, in which the goal is to intercept a potentially moving target.
This paradigm allows the authors to investigate how, given a fixed reach endpoint (which is assumed to correspond to a fixed motor output), the sensory information regarding the target motion is encoded in neural activity.
At the level of single neurons, the authors found that target motion modulates the activity in three main ways: gain modulation (scaling of the neural activity depending on the target direction), shift (shift of the preferred direction of neurons tuned to reach direction), or addition (offset to the neural activity).
At the level of the neural population, target motion information was largely encoded along the 3rd PC of the neural activity, leading to a tilt of the manifold along which reach direction was encoded that was proportional to the target speed. The tilt of the neural manifold was found to be largely driven by the variation of activity of the population of gain-modulated neurons.<br /> Finally, the authors studied the behaviour of an RNN trained to generate the correct hand velocity given the sensory input and reach direction. The RNN units were found to similarly exhibit mixed selectivity to the sensory information, and the geometry of the « neural population » resembled that observed in the monkeys.
Strengths:
- The experiment is well set up to address the question of how sensory information that is directly relevant to the behaviour but does not lead to a direct change in behavioural output modulates motor cortical activity.
- The finding that sensory information modulates the neural activity in M1 during motor preparation and execution is non trivial, given that this modulation of the activity must occur in the nullspace of the movement.
- The paper gives a complete picture of the effect of the target motion on neural activity, by including analyses at the single neuron level as well as at the population level. Additionally, the authors link those two levels of representation by highlighting how gain modulation contributes to shaping the population representation.
Weaknesses:
- One of the main premises of the paper is the fact that the motor output for a given reach point is preserved across different target motions. However, as the authors briefly mention in the conclusion, they did not record muscle activity during the task, but only hand velocity, making it impossible to directly verify how preserved muscle patterns were across movements. While the authors highlight that they did not see any difference in their results when resampling the data to control for similar hand velocities across conditions, this seems like an important potential caveat of the paper whose implications should be discussed further or highlighted earlier in the paper.
- The main takeaway of the RNN analysis is not fully clear. The authors find that an RNN trained given a sensory input representing a moving target displays modulation to target motion that resembles what is seen in real data. This is interesting, but the authors do not dissect why this representation arises, and how robust it is to various task design choices. For instance, it appears that the network should be able to solve the task using only the motion intention input, which contains the reach endpoint information. If the target motion input is not used for the task, it is not obvious why the RNN units would be modulated by this input (especially as this modulation must lie in the nullspace of the movement hand velocity if the velocity depends only on the reach endpoint). It would thus be important to see alternative models compared to true neural activity, in addition to the model currently included in the paper. Besides, for the model in the paper, it would therefore be interesting to study further how the details of the network setup (eg initial spectral radius of the connectivity, weight regularization, or using only the target position input) affect the modulation by the motion input, as well as the trained population geometry and the relative ratios of modulated cells after training.
- Additionally, it is unclear what insights are gained from the perturbations to the network connectivity the authors perform, as it is generally expected that modulating the connectivity will degrade task performance and the geometry of the responses. If the authors wish the make claims about the role of the subpopulations, it could be interesting to test whether similar connectivity patterns develop in networks that are not initialized with an all-to-all random connectivity or to use ablation experiments to investigate whether the presence of multiple types of modulations confers any sort of robustness to the network.
- The results suggest that the observed changes in motor cortical activity with target velocity result from M1 activity receiving an input that encodes the velocity information. This also appears to be the assumption in the RNN model. However, even though the input shown to the animal during preparation is indeed a continuously moving target, it appears that the only relevant quantity to the actual movement is the final endpoint of the reach. While this would have to be a function of the target velocity, one could imagine that the computation of where the monkeys should reach might be performed upstream of the motor cortex, in which case the actual target velocity would become irrelevant to the final motor output. This makes the results of the paper very interesting, but it would be nice if the authors could discuss further when one might expect to see modulation by sensory information that does not directly affect motor output in M1, and where those inputs may come from. It may also be interesting to discuss how the findings relate to previous work that has found behaviourally irrelevant information is being filtered out from M1 (for instance, Russo et al, Neuron 2020 found that in monkeys performing a cycling task, context can be decoded from SMA but not from M1, and Wang et al, Nature Communications 2019 found that perceptual information could not be decoded from PMd)?
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Reviewer #3 (Public Review):
Summary:
In this manuscript, the authors show that impairment of hind limb muscle contraction by cast immobilization suppresses skeletal muscle thermogenesis and activates thermogenesis in brown fat. They also propose that free BCAAs derived from skeletal muscle are used for BAT thermogenesis, and identify IL-6 as a potential regulator.
Strengths:
The data support the conclusions for the most part.
Weaknesses:
The data provided in this manuscript are largely descriptive. It is therefore difficult to assess the potential significance of the work. Moreover, many of the described effects are modest in magnitude, questioning the overall functional relevance of this pathway. There are no experiments that directly test whether BCAAs derived from adipose tissue are used for thermogenesis, which would require more robust tracing experiments. In addition, the rigor of the work should be improved. It is also recommended to put the current work in the context of the literature.
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Heat production mechanisms are flexible, depending on a wide variety of genetic, dietary, and environmental factors. The physiology associated with each mechanism is important to understand since loss of flexibility is associated with metabolic decline and disease.
The phenomenon of compensatory heat production has been described in some detail in publications and reviews, notably by modifying BAT-dependent thermogenesis (for example by deleting UCP1 or impairing lipolysis, cited in this paper).
These authors chose to eliminate exercise as an alternative means of maintaining body temperature. To do this, they cast either one or both mouse hindlimbs.
This paper is set up as an evaluation of a loss of function of muscle on the functionality of BAT.
Strengths:
The study is supported by a variety of modern techniques and procedures.
Weaknesses:
The authors show that cast immobilization (CI) does not work as a (passive) loss of function, instead, this procedure produces a dramatic gain of function, putting the animal under considerable stress, inducing b-adrenergic effectors, increased oxygen consumption, and IL6 expression in a variety of tissues, together with commensurate cachectic effects on muscle and fat. The BAT is put under considerable stress, super-induced but relatively poor functioning.
Thus within hours and days of CI, there is massive muscle loss (leading to high circulating BCAAs), and loss of lipid reserves in adipose and liver. The lipid cycle that maintains BAT thermogenesis is depleted and the mouse is unable to maintain body temperature.
I cannot agree with these statements in the Discussion:
"We have here shown that cast immobilization suppressed skeletal muscle thermogenesis, resulting in failure to maintain core body temperature in a cold environment."<br /> • This result could also be attributed to high stress and decreased calorie reserves. Note also: CI suppresses 50% of locomotor activity, but the actual work done by the mouse carrying bilateral casts is not taken into account.
"Thermoregulatory system in endotherms cannot be explained by thermogenesis based on muscle contraction alone, with nonshivering thermogenesis being required as a component of the ability to tolerate cold temperatures in the long term."<br /> • This statement is correct, and it clearly showcases how difficult it is to interpret results using this CI strategy. The question to the author is- which components of muscle thermogenesis are actually inhibited by CI, and what is the relative heat contribution?
This conclusion is overinterpreted:
"In conclusion, we have shown that cast immobilization induced thermogenesis in BAT that was dependent on the utilization of free amino acids derived from skeletal muscle, and that muscle-derived IL-6 stimulated BCAA metabolism in skeletal muscle. Our findings may provide new insights into the significance of skeletal muscle as a large reservoir of amino acids in the regulation of body temperature".
In terms of the production of the article - the data shown in the heat maps has oddly obscure log10 dimensions. The changes are minimal, approx. 1.5x increase/decrease and therefore significance would be key to reporting these data. Fig.3C heatmap is not suitable. What are the 6 lanes to each condition? Overall, this has little/no information.
Rather than cherry-picking for a few genes, the results could be made more rigorous using RNA-seq profiling of BAT and muscle tissues.
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Reviewer #2 (Public Review):
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In this study, the authors identified a previously unrecognized organ interaction where limb immobilization induces thermogenesis in BAT. They showed that limb immobilization by cast fixation enhances the expression of UCP1 as well as amino acid transporters in BAT, and amino acids are supplied from skeletal muscle to BAT during this process, likely contributing to increased thermogenesis in BAT. Furthermore, the experiments with IL-6 knockout mice and IL-6 administration to these mice suggest that this cytokine is likely involved in the supply of amino acids from skeletal muscle to BAT during limb immobilization.
Strengths:
The function of BAT plays a crucial role in the regulation of an individual's energy and body weight. Therefore, identifying new interventions that can control BAT function is not only scientifically significant but also holds substantial promise for medical applications. The authors have thoroughly and comprehensively examined the changes in skeletal muscle and BAT under these conditions, convincingly demonstrating the significance of this organ interaction.
Weaknesses:
Through considerable effort, the authors have demonstrated that limb-immobilized mice exhibit changes in thermogenesis and energy metabolism dynamics at their steady state. However, The impact of immobilization on the function of skeletal muscle and BAT during cold exposure has not been thoroughly analyzed.
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On responding to the first round of reviews, the authors have nicely adjusted their wording and fairly describe the results of their study. Certain markers were identified for further investigation. Yet, an overall non-obvious relationship between immune markers and HIV reservoirs has been shown previously, and despite the attempt to leverage powerful ML algorithms, they are not magical and cannot reveal strong relationships that fundamentally do not exist. In addition, categorical classification is for now hard to interpret and the more powerful ML algorithms do not seem to outperform more classic regression methods. Therefore, it remains relatively hard to evaluate the utility of this kind of study.
Initial summary:
Semenova et al. have studied a large cross-sectional cohort of people living with HIV on suppressive ART, N=115, and performed high dimensional flow-cytometry to then search for associations between immunological and clinical parameters and intact/total HIV DNA levels.
A number of interesting data science/ML approaches were explored on the data and the project seems a serious undertaking. However, like many other studies that have looked for these kinds of associations, there was not a very strong signal. Of course the goal of unsupervised learning is to find new hypotheses that aren't obvious to human eyes, but I felt in that context, there were (1) results slightly oversold, (2) some questions about methodology in terms mostly of reservoir levels, and (3) results were not sufficiently translated back into meaning in terms of clinical outcomes.
Strengths:
The study is evidently a large and impressive undertaking and combines many cutting edge statistical techniques with a comprehensive experimental cohort of people living with HIV, notably inclusive of populations underrepresented in HIV science. A number of intriguing hypotheses are put forward that could be explored further. Data will be shared and could be a useful repository for more specific analyses.
Weaknesses:
Despite the detailed experiments and methods, there was not a very strong signal for variable(s) predicting HIV reservoir size. The spearman coefficients are ~0.3, (somewhat weak, and acknowledged as such) and predictive models reach 70-80% prediction levels, though of sometimes categorical variables that are challenging to interpret.
There are some questions about methodology, as well as some conclusions that are not completely supported by results, or at minimum not sufficiently contextualized in terms of clinical significance. Edit, authors have substantially revised the text.
On associations: the false discovery rate correction was set at 5%, but data appear underdetermined with fewer observations than variables (144vars > 115ppts), and it isn't always clear if/when variables are related (e.g inverses of one another, for instance %CD4 and %CD8).
The modeling of reservoir size was unusual, typically intact and defective HIV DNA are analyzed on a log10 scale (both for decays and predicting rebound). Also sometimes in this analysis levels are normalized (presumably to max/min?, e.g. S5), and given the large within-host variation of level we see in other works, it is not trivial to predict any downstream impact of normalization across population vs within person. Edit, fixed.
Also, the qualitative characterization of low/high reservoir is not standard, and naturally will split by early/later ART if done as above/below median. Given the continuous nature of these data it seems throughout that predicting above/below median is a little hard to translate into clinical meaning.
Lastly, work is comprehensive and appears solid, but the code was not shared to see how calculations were performed. Edit, fixed.
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Reviewer #1 (Public Review):
Summary:<br /> Ever-improving techniques allow the detailed capture of brain morphology and function to the point where individual brain anatomy becomes an important factor. This study investigated detailed sulcal morphology in the parieto-occipital junction. Using cutting-edge methods, it provides important insights into local anatomy, individual variability, and local brain function. The presented work advances the field and will stimulate future research into this important area.
Strengths:<br /> Detailed, very thorough methodology. Multiple raters mapped detailed sulci in a large cohort. The identified sulcal features and their functional and behavioural relevance are then studied using various complementary methods. The results provide compelling evidence for the importance of the described sulcal features and their proposed relationship to cortical brain function.
Comments on revised version:
The revised manuscript addresses all my concerns.
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Reviewer #2 (Public Review):
Summary:<br /> After manually labelling 144 human adult hemispheres in the lateral parieto-occipital junction (LPOJ), the authors 1) propose a nomenclature for 4 previously unnamed highly variable sulci located between the temporal and parietal or occipital lobes, 2) focus on one of these newly named sulci, namely the ventral supralateral occipital sulcus (slocs-v) and compare it to neighbouring sulci to demonstrate its specificity (in terms of depth, surface area, gray matter thickness, myelination, and connectivity), 3) relate the morphology of a subgroup of sulci from the region including the slocs-v to the performance in a spatial orientation task, demonstrating behavioural and morphological specificity. In addition to these results, the authors propose an extended reflection on the relationship between these newly named landmarks and previous anatomical studies, a reflection about the slocs-v related to functional and cytoarchitectonic parcellations as well as anatomic connectivity and an insight about potential anatomical mechanisms relating sulcation and behaviour.
Strengths:<br /> - To my knowledge, this is the first study addressing the variable tertiary sulci located between the superior temporal sulcus (STS) and intra-parietal sulcus (IPS).<br /> - This is a very comprehensive study addressing altogether anatomical, architectural, functional and cognitive aspects.<br /> - The definition of highly variable yet highly reproductible sulci such as the slocs-v feeds the community with new anatomo-functional landmarks (which is emphasized by the provision of a probability map in supp. mat., which in my opinion should be proposed in the main body).<br /> - The comparison of different features between the slocs-v and similar sulci is useful to demonstrate their difference.<br /> - The detailed comparison of the present study with state of the art contextualises and strengthens the novel findings.<br /> - The functional study complements the anatomical description and points towards cognitive specificity related to a subset of sulci from the LPOJ<br /> - The discussion offers a proposition of theoretical interpretation of the findings<br /> - The data and code are mostly available online (raw data made available upon request).
Weaknesses:<br /> - While the identification of the sulci has been done thoroughly with expert validation, the sulci have not been labelled in a way that enables the demonstration of the reproducibility of the labelling.
The proposed methodology is convincing in identifying and studying the relationship between highly variable sulci and cognition. This improves our refined understanding of the general anatomical variability in the LPOJ and its potential functional/cognitive correlates. This work is important to the understanding of sulcal variability and its implications on functional and cognitive aspects.
Comments on revised version:
Thank you for the elegant and informative work.
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Reviewer #3 (Public Review):
Summary:<br /> 72 subjects, and 144 hemispheres, from the Human Connectome Project had their parietal sulci manually traced. This identified the presence of previous undescribed shallow sulci. One of these sulci, the ventral supralateral occipital sulcus (slocs-v), was then demonstrated to have functional specificity in spatial orientation. The discussion furthermore provides an eloquent overview of our understanding of the anatomy of the parietal cortex, situating their new work into the broader field. Finally, this paper stimulates further debate about the relative value of detailed manual anatomy, inherently limited in participant numbers and areas of the brain covered, against fully automated processing that can cover thousands of participants but easily misses the kinds of anatomical details described here.
Strengths:<br /> - This is the first paper describing the tertiary sulci of the parietal cortex with this level of detail, identifying novel shallow sulci and mapping them to behaviour and function.<br /> - It is a very elegantly written paper, situating the current work into the broader field.<br /> - The combination of detailed anatomy and function and behaviour is superb.
Weaknesses:<br /> - the numbers of subjects are inherently limited both in number as well as in being typically developing young adults.<br /> - while the paper begins by describing four new sulci, only one is explored further in greater detail.<br /> - there is some tension between calling the discovered sulci new vs acknowledging they have already been reported, but not named.<br /> - the anatomy of the sulci, as opposed to their relation to other sulci, could be described in greater detail.
Overall, to summarize, I greatly enjoyed this paper and believe it to be a highly valued contribution to the field.
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Reviewer #1 (Public Review):
Summary:
In this manuscript, the authors report that activation of excitatory DREADDs in the mid-cervical spinal cord can increase inspiratory activity in mice and rats. This is an important first step toward an ultimate goal of using this, or similar, technology to drive breathing in disorders associated with decreased respiratory motor output, such as spinal injury or neurodegenerative disease.
Strengths:
Strengths of this study include a comparison of non-specific DREADD expression in the mid-cervical spinal cord versus specific targeting to ChAT-positive neurons, and the measurement of multiple respiratory-related outcomes, including phrenic inspiratory output, diaphragm EMG activity, and ventilation. The data show convincingly that DREADDs can be used to drive phrenic inspiratory activity, which in turn increases diaphragm EMG activity and ventilation.
Weaknesses:
The main limitation is that the ligand, J60, was not given to control animals without spinal DREADD expression. Since J60 may have off-target effects (PMID: 37530882), a discussion of this limitation is warranted, particularly in light of the one rat that was reported to not have detectible mCherry expression in the mid-cervical spinal cord, yet had robust increases in diaphragm output after J60 administration.
In experiments in ChAT-Cre animals, several neuronal types will express DREADDs, including non-phrenic motor neurons and some interneurons. As such, these experiments do not specifically "target" phrenic motor neurons any more so than experiments in WT animals. Experiments in ChAT-Cre animals also do not avoid inducing "non-specific expression in the vicinity of the phrenic motor nucleus". This is not a study design flaw per se, but an overinterpretation of findings.
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Reviewer #2 (Public Review):
Summary:
This study shows that when excitatory DREADD receptors are expressed in the ventral area of the cervical spinal cord containing phrenic motoneurons, the systemic administration of the DREADD ligand J60 increases diaphragm EMG activity without altering respiratory rate. The authors took a non-selective expression approach in wild-type mice, as well as a more selective Cre-dependent approach in Chat-Cre mice and Chat-Cre rats to stimulate cervical motoneurons in the spinal cord. This is a proof of principle study that supports the use of DREADD technology to stimulate the motor output to the diaphragm.
Strengths:
The strengths of the study lie in the use of both mice and rats and testing activation of diaphragmatic activity with multiple experimental approaches to show that diaphragm EMG and tidal volume are increased.
Weaknesses:
Weaknesses of the study consist in the lack of some important control experiments to consolidate the findings: a test of DREADD ligand effects in the absence of viral construct; repeated respiratory challenges within the same recording session in whole body plethysmographs that could compromise the behaving experiments; and lastly, a limited qualitative analysis of the histological data that does not allow for confirmation of expression in phrenic motoneurons.
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Summary:
In the manuscript entitled "Rtf1 HMD domain facilitates global histone H2B monoubiquitination and regulates morphogenesis and virulence in the meningitis-causing pathogen Cryptococcus neoformans" by Jiang et al., the authors employ a combination of molecular genetics and biochemical approaches, along with phenotypic evaluations and animal models, to identify the conserved subunit of the Paf1 complex (Paf1C), Rtf1, and functionally characterize its critical roles in mediating H2B monoubiquitination (H2Bub1) and the consequent regulation of gene expression, fungal development, and virulence traits in C. deneoformans or C. neoformans. Specially, the authors found that the histone modification domain (HMD) of Rtf1 is sufficient to promote H2B monoubiquitination (H2Bub1) and the expression of genes related to fungal mating and filamentation, and restores the fungal morphogenesis and pathogenicity defects caused by RTF1 deletion.
Strengths:
The manuscript is well-written and presents the findings in a clear manner. The findings are interesting and contribute to a better understanding of Rtf1-mediated epigenetic regulation of fungal morphogenesis and pathogenicity in a major human fungal pathogen, and potentially in other fungal species, as well.
Weaknesses:
A major limitation of this study is the absence of genome-wide information on Rtf1-mediated H2B monoubiquitination (H2Bub1), as well as a lack of detail regarding the function of the Plus3 domain. Although overexpression of HMD in the rtf1Δ mutant restored global H2Bub1 levels, it did not rescue certain critical biological functions, such as growth at 39{degree sign}C and melanin production (Figure 4C-D). This suggests that the precise positioning of H2Bub1 is essential for Rtf1's function. A comprehensive epigenetic landscape of H2Bub1 in the presence of HMD or full-length Rtf1 would elucidate potential mechanisms and shed light on the function of the Plus3 domain.
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Reviewer #2 (Public Review):
Summary:
The authors set out to determine the role of Rtf1 in Cryptococcal biology, and demonstrate that Rtf1 acts independently of the Paf1 complex to exert regulation of Histone H2B monoubiquitylation (H2Bub1). The biological impact of the loss of H2Bub1 was observed in defects in morphogenesis, reduced production of virulence factors, and reduced pathogenic potential in animal models of cryptococcal infection.
Strengths:
The molecular data is quite compelling, demonstrating that the Rtf1-depednent functions require only this histone modifying domain of Rtf1, and are dependent on nuclear localization. A specific point mutation in a residue conserved with the Rtf1 protein in the model yeast demonstrates the conservation of that residue in H2Bub1 modification. Interestingly, whereas expression of the HMD alone suppressed the virulence defect of the rtf1 deletion mutant, it did not suppress defects in virulence factor production.
Weaknesses:
The authors use two different species of Cryptococcus to investigate the biological effect of Rtf1 deletion. The work on morphogenesis utilized C. deneoformans, which is well-known to be a robust mating strain. The virulence work was performed in the C. neoformans H99 background, which is a highly pathogenic isolate. The study would be more complete if each of these processes were assessed in the other strain to understand if these biological effects are conserved across the two species of Cryptococcus. H99 is not as robust in morphogenesis, but reproducible results assessing mating and filamentation in this strain have been performed. Similarly, C. deneoformans does produce capsule and melanin.
There are some concerns with the conclusions related to capsule induction. The images reported in Figure B are purported to be grown under capsule-inducing conditions, yet the H99 panel is not representative of the induced capsule for this strain. Given the lack of a baseline of induction, it is difficult to determine if any of the strains may be defective in capsule induction. Quantification of a population of cells with replicates will also help to visualize the capsular diversity in each strain population.
The authors demonstrate that for specific mating-related genes, the expression of the HMD recapitulated the wild-type expression pattern. The RNA-seq experiments were performed under mating conditions, suggesting specificity under this condition. The authors raise the point in the discussion that there may be differences in Rtf1 deposition on chromatin in H99, and under conditions of pathogenesis. The data that overexpression of HMD restores H2Bub1 by western is quite compelling, but does not address at which promoters H2Bub1 is modulating expression under pathogenesis conditions, and when full-length Rtf1 is present vs. only the HMD.
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Reviewer #3 (Public Review):
Summary:
In this very comprehensive study, the authors examine the effects of deletion and mutation of the Paf1C protein Rtf1 gene on chromatin structure, filamentation, and virulence in Cryptococcus.
Strengths:
The experiments are well presented and the interpretation of the data is convincing.
Weaknesses:
Yet, one can be frustrated by the lack of experiments that attempt to directly correlate the change in chromatin structure with the expression of a particular gene and the observed phenotype. For example, the authors observed a strong defect in the expression of ZNF2, a known regulator of filamentation, mating, and virulence, in the rtf1 mutant. Can this defect explain the observed phenotypes associated with the RTF1 mutation? Is the observed defect in melanin production associated with altered expression of laccase genes and altered chromatin structure at this locus?
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Reviewer #1 (Public Review):
Summary:
In this manuscript, Jiao D et al reported the induction of synthetic lethal by combined inhibition of anti-apoptotic BCL-2 family proteins and WSB2, a substrate receptor in CRL5 ubiquitin ligase complex. Mechanistically, WSB2 interacts with NOXA to promote its ubiquitylation and degradation. Cancer cells deficient in WSB2, as well as heart and liver tissues from Wsb2-/- mice exhibit high susceptibility to apoptosis induced by inhibitors of BCL-2 family proteins. The anti-apoptotic activity of WSB2 is partially dependent on NOXA.
Overall, the finding, that WSB2 disruption triggers synthetic lethality to BCL-2 family protein inhibitors by destabilizing NOXA, is rather novel. The manuscript is largely hypothesis-driven, with experiments that are adequately designed and executed. However, there are quite a few issues for the authors to address, including those listed below.
Specific comments:
(1) At the beginning of the Results section, a clear statement is needed as to why the authors are interested in WSB2 and what brought them to analyze "the genetic co-dependency between WSB2 and other proteins".
(2) In general, the biochemical evidence supporting the role of WSB2 as a SOCS box-containing substrate-binding receptor of CRL5 E3 in promoting NOXA ubiquitylation and degradation is relatively weak. First, since NOXA2 binds to WSB2 on its SOCS box, which consists of a BC box for Elongin B/C binding and a CUL5 box for CUL5 binding, it is crucial to determine whether the binding of NOXA on the SOCS box affects the formation of CRL5WSB2 complex. The authors should demonstrate the endogenous binding between NOXA and the CRL5WSB2 complex. Additionally, the authors may also consider manipulating CUL5, SAG, or ElonginB/C to assess if it would affect NOXA protein turnover in two independent cell lines. Second, in all the experiments designed to detect NOXA ubiquitylation in cells, the authors utilized immunoprecipitation (IP) with FLAG-NOXA/NOXA, followed by immunoblotting (IB) with HA-Ub. However, it is possible that the observed poly-Ub bands could be partly attributed to the ubiquitylation of other NOXA binding proteins. Therefore, the authors need to consider performing IP with HA-Ub and subsequently IB with NOXA. Alternatively, they could use Ni-beads to pull down all His-Ub-tagged proteins under denaturing conditions, followed by the detection of FLAG-tagged NOXA using anti-FLAG Ab. The authors are encouraged to perform one of these suggested experiments to exclude the possibility of this concern. Furthermore, an in vitro ubiquitylation assay is crucial to conclusively demonstrate that the polyubiquitylation of NOXA is indeed mediated by the CRL5WSB2 complex.
(3) In their attempt to map the binding regions between NOXA and WSB2, the authors utilized exogenous proteins of both WSB2 and NOXA. To strengthen their findings, it would be more convincing to perform IP with exogenous wt/mutant WSB2 or NOXA and subsequently perform IB to detect endogenous NOXA or WSB2, respectively. Additionally, an in vitro binding assay using purified proteins would provide further evidence of a direct binding between NOXA and WSB2.
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Reviewer #2 (Public Review):
Summary:
Exploring the DEP-MAP database and two drug-screen databases, the authors identify WSB2 as an interactor of several BCL2 proteins. In follow-up experiments, they show that CRL5/WSB2 controls NOXA protein levels via K48 ubiquitination following direct protein-protein interaction, and cell death sensitivity in the context of BH3 mimetic treatment, where WSB2 depletion synergizes with drug treatment.
Strengths:
The authors use a set of orthogonal methods across different model cell lines and a new WSB2 KO mouse model to confirm their findings. They also manage to correlate WSB2 expression with poor prognosis in prostate and liver cancer, supporting the idea that targeting WSB2 may sensitize cancers for treatment with BH3 mimetics.
Weaknesses:
The conclusions drawn based on the findings in cancer patients are very speculative, as regulation of NOXA cannot be the sole function of CRL5/WSB2 and it is hence unclear what causes correlation with patient survival. Moreover, the authors do not provide a clear mechanistic explanation of how exactly higher levels of NOXA promote apoptosis in the absence of WSB2. This would be important knowledge, as usually high NOXA levels correlate with high MCL1, as they are turned over together, but in situations like this, or loss of other E3 ligases, such as MARCH, the buffering capacity of MCL1 is outrun, allowing excess NOXA to kill (likely by neutralizing other BCL2 proteins it usually does not bind to, such as BCLX). Moreover, a necroptosis-inducing role of NOXA has been postulated. Neither of these options is interrogated here.
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Reviewer #1 (Public Review):
Summary:
Building upon their famous tool for the deconvolution of human transcriptomics data (EPIC), Gabriel et al. implemented a new methodology for the quantification of the cellular composition of samples profiled with Assay for Transposase-Accessible Chromatin sequencing (ATAC-seq). To build a signature for ATAC-seq deconvolution, they first created a compendium of ATAC-seq data and derived chromatin accessibility marker peaks and reference profiles for 12 cell types, encompassing immune cells, endothelial cells, and fibroblasts. Then, they coupled this novel signature with the EPIC deconvolution framework based on constrained least-square regression to derive a dedicated tool called EPIC-ATAC. The method was then assessed using real and pseudo-bulk ATAC-seq data from human peripheral blood mononuclear cells (PBMC) and, finally, applied to ATAC-seq data from breast cancer tumors to show it accurately quantifies their immune contexture.
Strengths:
Overall, the work is of very high quality. The proposed tool is timely; its implementation, characterization, and validation are based on rigorous methodologies and results in robust estimates. The newly-generated, validation data and the code are publicly available and well-documented. Therefore, I believe this work and the associated resources will greatly benefit the scientific community.
Weaknesses:
In the benchmarking analysis, EPIC-ATAC was compared also to deconvolution methods that were originally developed for transcriptomics and not for ATAC-seq data. However, the authors described in detail the specific settings used to analyze this different data modality as robustly as possible, and they discussed possible limitations and ideas for future improvement.
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Reviewer #2 (Public Review):
Summary:
The manuscript expands the current bulk sequencing data deconvolution toolkit to include ATAC-seq. The EPIC-ATAC tool successfully predicts accurate proportions of immune cells in bulk tumour samples and EPIC-ATAC seems to perform well in benchmarking analyses. The authors achieve their aim of developing a new bulk ATAC-seq deconvolution tool.
Strengths:
The manuscript describes simple and understandable experiments to demonstrate the accuracy of EPIC-ATAC. They have also been incredibly thorough with their reference dataset collections and have been robust in their benchmarking endeavours and measured EPIC-ATAC against multiple datasets and tools. This tool will be valuable to the community it serves.
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Reviewer #1 (Public Review):
Summary:
Previous research from the Margoliash laboratory has demonstrated that the intrinsic electrophysiological properties of one class of projection neurons in the song nucleus HVC, HVCX neurons, are similar within birds and differ between birds in a manner that relates to the bird's song. The current study builds on this research by addressing how intrinsic properties may relate to the temporal structure of the bird's song and by developing a computational model for how this can influence sequence propagation of activity within HVC during singing.
First, the authors identify that the duration of the song motif is correlated with the duration of song syllables and particularly the length of harmonic stacks within the song. They next found positive correlations between some of the intrinsic properties, including firing frequency, sag ratio, and rebound excitation area with the duration of the birds' longest harmonic syllable and some other measure of motif duration. These results were extended by examining measures of firing frequency and sag ratio between two groups of birds that were experimentally raised to learn songs that only differed by the addition of a long terminal harmonic stack in one of the groups. Lastly, the authors present an HH-based model elucidating how the timing and magnitude of rebound excitation of HVCX neurons can function to support previously reported physiological network properties of these neurons during singing.
Strengths:
By trying to describe how intrinsic properties (IPs) may relate to the structure of learned behavior and providing a potentially plausible model (see below for more on this) for how differences in IPs can relate to sequence propagation in this neural network, this research is addressing an important and challenging issue. An understanding of how cell types develop IPs and how those IPs relate to the function and output of a network is a fundamental issue. Tackling this in the zebra finch HVC is an elegant approach because it provides a quantifiable and reliable behavior that is explicitly tied to the neurons that the authors are studying. Nonetheless, this is a difficult problem, and kudos to the authors for trying to unravel this.
Correlations between harmonic stack durations and song durations are well-supported and interesting. This provides a new insight that can and will likely be used by other research groups in correlating neuronal activity patterns to song behavior and motif duration. Additionally, correlations between IPs associated with rebound excitation are also well supported in this study.
The HH-model presented is important because it meaningfully relates how high or low rebound excitation can set the integration time window for HVCX neurons. Further, the synaptic connectivity of this model provides at least one plausible way in how this functions to permit the bursting activity of HVCX neurons during singing (and potentially during song playback experiments in sleeping birds). Thus, this model will be useful to the field for understanding how this network activity intersects with 'learned' IPs in an important class of neurons in this circuit.
Weaknesses:
The main weakness of the study is that there is somewhat of a disconnect between the physiological measurements described and the key components of the circuit model presented at the end of the paper. Thus, better support could be provided to link the magnitude of rebound excitation with song temporal structure. The rebound excitation area is shown to be positively correlated with the longest harmonic stack. Does this correlation hold when the four birds with unusually long stacks (>150ms) are excluded? Is rebound excitation area positively correlated with motif duration? Additionally, rebound excitation was not considered when examining experimentally tutored birds. Further analysis of these correlations can better link this research to the model presented.
The HH model is of general interest, but I am concerned about the plausibility of some of this circuitry, particularly because synaptic connectivity underlying information flow is a central component of the model. At several steps in the model, excitatory drive onto HVCX neurons is coming from another HVCX neuron. Although disynaptic inhibition between HVCX neurons and between HVCRA and HVCX neurons is well established, I am not aware of any data indicating direct synaptic connections between HVCX neurons.
Thus, how does the model change if all excitatory drive onto HVCX neurons are coming from HVCRA neurons? Currently, the model is realized through neurons being active at syllable or gesture transitions. What does the model predict about the distribution of HVCRA neurons activity across songs if they are the exclusive excitatory input to HVCX neurons? A better consideration of these issues can improve the suitability of the model in the context of known connectivity.
If I understand the model and ideas correctly, birds with longer motifs should exhibit longer pauses in the activity of tonically active HVC interneurons during singing and they should exhibit longer post-rebound integration windows. Experimental evidence supporting either of these ideas is not provided and would strengthen this research.
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Reviewer #2 (Public Review):
Intrinsic properties of a neuron refer to the ion channels that a neuron expresses. These ion channels determine how a neuron responds to its inputs. How intrinsic properties link to behavior remains poorly understood. Medina and Margoliash address this question using the zebra finch, a well-studied songbird. Previous studies from their lab and other labs have shown that the intrinsic properties of adult songbird basal-ganglia projecting premotor neurons, are more similar within a bird than across birds. Across birds, this similarity is related to the extent of similarity in the songs; the more similar the song between two birds, the more similar the intrinsic properties between the neurons of these two birds. Finally, the intrinsic properties of these neurons change over the course of development and are sensitive to intact auditory feedback. However, the song features that relate to these intrinsic properties and the function of the within-bird homogeneity of intrinsic properties are unclear.
In this manuscript, the authors address these two questions by examining the intrinsic properties of basal-ganglia projecting premotor neurons in zebra finch brain slices. Specifically, they focus on the Ih current (as this is related to rhythmic activity in many pattern-generating circuits) and correlate the properties of the Ih current with song features. They find that the sag ratio (a measure of the driving force of the Ih current) and the rebound area (a measure of the post-inhibitory depolarisation) are both correlated with the temporal features of the song. First, they show the presence of correlations between the length of the song motif and the length of the longest syllable (most often a harmonic stack syllable). Based on this, they conclude that longer song motifs are composed of longer syllables. Second, they show that HVCX neurons within a bird have more similar sag ratios and rebound areas than across birds. Third, the mean sag ratio and mean rebound areas across birds were correlated with the duration of the longest harmonic stack within the song. These two results suggest that IPs are correlated with the temporal structure of the song. To further test this, the authors used natural and experimental tutoring procedures to have birds that learned two different types of songs that only differed in length; the longer song had an extra harmonic stack at the end. Using these two sets of birds, the authors find larger sag ratios and higher firing frequencies in birds with longer songs. Fifth, they show that the post-inhibitory rebound area allows neurons to respond to excitatory inputs and produce spikes. Neurons with a larger rebound area have a larger time window for responding to excitatory inputs. Based on this, they speculate that HVCX neurons with larger rebound areas integrate over larger time windows. Finally, they make a network model of HVC and show that one specific model could explain sequence-specific bursting of HVCX neurons.
Strengths
The question being addressed is an interesting question and the authors use appropriate techniques. The authors find a new temporal structure within the song, specifically, they find that longer songs typically have more syllables and longer syllables. As far as I know, this has not been shown earlier. The authors build on existing literature to suggest that IPs of HVCX neurons are correlated with the temporal structure of songs.
Weaknesses
I have a number of concerns with the statistics and interpretation of the results, insufficient controls for one experiment, and the specifics of the model that affect the implications of these results. These concerns are listed in the recommendations for the authors.
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Reviewer #3 (Public Review):
It is rare to find systems in neuroscience where a detailed mechanistic link can be made between the biophysical properties of individual neurons and observable behaviors. In this study, Medina and Margoliash examined how the intrinsic physiological properties of a subclass of neurons in HVC, the main nucleus orchestrating the production of birdsong, might have an effect on the temporal structure of a song. This builds on prior work from this lab demonstrating that intrinsic properties of these neurons are highly consistent within individual animals and more similar between animals with similar songs, by identifying specific acoustic features of the song that covary with intrinsic properties and by setting forth a detailed biophysical network model to explain the relationship.
The main experimental finding is that excitability, hyperpolarization-evoked sag, and rebound depolarization are correlated with song duration and the duration of long harmonic elements. This motivates the hypothesis that rebound depolarization acts as a coincidence detector for the offset of inhibition associated with the previous song element and excitation associated with the start of the next element, with the delay and other characteristics of the window determined primarily by Ih. The idea is then that the temporal sensitivity of coincidence detection, which is common to all HVCx neurons, sets a global tempo that relates to the temporal characteristics of a song. This model is supported by some experimental data showing variation in the temporal integration of rebound spiking and by a Hodgkin-Huxley-based computational model that demonstrates proof of principle, including the emergence of a narrow (~50 ms) post-inhibitory window when excitatory input from other principal neurons can effectively evoke spiking.
Overall, the data are convincing and the model is compelling. The manuscript plays to the strengths of zebra finch song learning and the well-characterized microcircuitry and network dynamics of HVC. Of particular note, the design for the electrophysiology experiments employed both a correlational approach exploiting the natural variation in zebra finch song and a more controlled approach comparing birds that were tutored to produce songs that differed primarily along a single acoustical dimension. The modeling is based on Hodgkin-Huxley ionic conductances that have been pharmacologically validated, and the connections and functional properties of the network are consistent with prior work. This makes for a level of mechanistic detail that will likely be fruitful for future work.
There are some minor to moderate weaknesses. A minor weakness in the analysis of the experimental data relates to the handling of multiple correlations. There are several physiological variables that covary and several acoustical variables that covary, which makes it difficult to interpret standard Pearson correlation coefficients between any two individual variables. This is a minor concern because the results of the correlational analysis were confirmed in separate experiments with controlled tutoring, but a partial correlation analysis or latent factor analysis would be a more rigorous way of analyzing the natural live tutoring data.
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Reviewer #1 (Public Review):
The authors propose a UPEC TA system in which a metabolite, c-di-GMP, acts as the AT with the toxin HipH. The idea is novel, but several key ideas are missing in regard to the relevant literature, and the experimental design is flawed. Moreover, they are absolutely not studying persister cells as Figure 1b clearly shows they are merely studying dying cells since no plateau in killing (or anything close to a plateau) was reached. So in no way has persistence been linked to c-di-GMP. Moreover, I do not think the authors have shown how the c-di-GMP sensor works. Also, there is no evidence that c-di-GMP is an antitoxin as no binding to HipH has been shown. So at best, this is an indirect effect, not a new toxin/antitoxin system as for all 7 TAs, a direct link to the toxin has been demonstrated for antitoxins.
Weaknesses:
(1) L 53: biofilm persisters are no different than any other persisters (there is no credible evidence of any different persister cells) so this reviewer suggests changing 'biofilm persisters' to 'persisters' throughout the text.
(2) L 51: persister cells do not mutate and, once resuscitated, mutate like any other growing cell so this sentence should be deleted as it promotes an unnecessary myth about persistence.
(3) L 69: please include the only metabolic model for persister cell formation and resuscitation here based on single cells (e.g., doi.org/10.1016/j.bbrc.2020.01.102 , https://doi.org/10.1016/j.isci.2019.100792 ); otherwise, you write as if there are no molecular mechanisms for persistence/resuscitation.
(4) The authors should cite in the Intro or Discussion that others have proposed similar novel TAs including a ppGpp metabolic toxin paired with an enzymatic antitoxin SpoT that hydrolyzes the toxin (http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/j.molcel.2013.04.002).
(5) Figure 1b: there are no results in this paper related to persister cells. Figure 1b simply shows dying cells were enumerated. Hence, the population of stressed cells increased, not 'persister cells' (Figure 1f), in the course of these experiments.
(6) Figure S1: I see no evidence that the authors have shown this c-di-GMP detects different c-di-GMP levels since there appears to be no data related to varying c-di-GMP concentrations with a consistent decrease. Instead, there is a maximum. What are the concentration of c-di-GMP on the X-axis for panels C, D, and E? How were c-di-GMP levels varied such that you know the c-di-GMP concentration?
(7) The viable portion of the VBNC population are persister cells so there is no reason to use VBNC as a separate term. Please see the reported errors often made with nucleic acid staining dyes in regard to VBNCs.
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Reviewer #2 (Public Review):
Summary:
Hebin et al reported a fascinating story about antibiotic persistence in the biofilms. First, they set up a model to identify the increased persisters in the biofilm status. They found that the adhesion of bacteria to the surface leads to increased c-di-GMP levels, which might lead to the formation of persisters. To figure out the molecular mechanism, they screened the E.coli Keio Knockout Collection and identified the HipH. Finally, the authors used a lot of data to prove that c-di-GMP not only controls HipH over-expression but also inhibits HipH activity, though the inhibition might be weak.
Strengths:
They used a lot of state-of-the-art technologies, such as single-cell technologies as well as classical genetic and biochemistry approaches to prove the concept, which makes the conclusions very solid. Overall, it is a very interesting and solid story that might attract diverse readers working with c-di-GMP, persisters, and biofilm.
Weaknesses:
(1) Is HipH the only target identified by screening the E.coli Keio Knockout Collection?
(2) Since the story is complicated, a diagrammatic picture might be needed to illustrate the whole story. And the title does not accurately summarize the novelty of this study.
(3) The ratio of mVenus NB to mScarlet-I (R) negatively correlates with the concentration of c-di-GMP. Therefore, R -1 demonstrates a positive correlation with the concentration of c-di-GMP. Is this method validated with other methods to quantify c-di-GMP, or used in other studies?
(4) References are missing throughout the manuscript. Please add enough references for every conclusion.
(5) The novelty of this study should be clearly written and compared with previous references. For example, is it the first study to report the mechanism that the adhesion of bacteria to the surface leads to increased persister formation?
(6) in vitro DNA cleavage assay. Why not use bacterial genomic DNA to test the cleaving of HipH on the bacterial genome?
(7) C-di-gmp -HipH is not a TA, it does not fit in the definition of the TA systems. You can say C-di-gmp is an antitoxin based on your study, but C-di-gmp -HipH is not a TA pair.
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Reviewer #1 (Public Review):
The authors introduce DIPx, a deep learning framework for predicting synergistic drug combinations for cancer treatment using the AstraZeneca-Sanger (AZS) DREAM Challenge dataset. While the approach is innovative, I have the following concerns and comments which hopefully will improve the study's rigor and applicability, making it a more powerful tool in the real clinical world.
(1) Test Set 1 comprises combinations already present in the training set, likely leading overfitting issue. The model might show inflated performance metrics on this test set due to prior exposure to these combinations, not accurately reflecting its true predictive power on unknown data, which is crucial for discovering new drug synergies. The testing approach reduces the generalizability of the model's findings to new, untested scenarios.
(2) The model struggles with predicting synergies for drug combinations not included in its training data (showing only a Spearman correlation of 0.26 in Test Set 2). This limits its potential for discovering new therapeutic strategies. Utilizing techniques such as transfer learning or expanding the training dataset to encompass a wider range of drug pairs could help to address this issue.
(3) The use of pan-cancer datasets, while offering broad applicability, may not be optimal for specific cancer subtypes with distinct biological mechanisms. Developing subtype-specific models or adjusting the current model to account for these differences could improve prediction accuracy for individual cancer types.
(4) Line 127, "Since DIPx uses only molecular data, to make a fair comparison, we trained TAJI using only molecular features and referred to it as TAJI-M.". TAJI was designed to use both monotherapy drug-response and molecular data, and likely won't be able to reach maximum potential if removing monotherapy drug-response from the training model. It would be critical to use the same training datasets and then compare the performances. From Figure 6 of TAJI's paper (Li et al., 2018, PMID: 30054332) , i.e., the mean Pearson correlation for breast cancer and lung cancer is around 0.5 - 0.6.
The following 2 concerns have been included in the Discussion section which is great:
(1) Training and validating the model using cell lines may not fully capture the heterogeneity and complexity of in vivo tumors. To increase clinical relevance, it would be beneficial to validate the model using primary tumor samples or patient-derived xenografts.
(2) The Pathway Activation Score (PAS) is derived exclusively from primary target genes, potentially overlooking critical interactions involving non-primary targets. Including these secondary effects could enhance the model's predictive accuracy and comprehensiveness.
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Reviewer #2 (Public Review):
Trac, Huang, et al used the AZ Drug Combination Prediction DREAM challenge data to make a new random forest-based model for drug synergy. They make comparisons to the winning method and also show that their model has some predictive capacity for a completely different dataset. They highlight the ability of the model to be interpretable in terms of pathway and target interactions for synergistic effects. While the authors address an important question, more rigor is required to understand the full behavior of the model.
Major Points
(1) The authors compare DIPx to the winning method of the DREAm challenge, TAJI to show that from molecular features alone they retrain TAJI to create TAJI-M without the monotherapy data inputs. They mention that "of course, we could also use such data in DIPx...", but they never show the behaviour of DIPx with these data. The authors need to demonstrate that this statement holds true or else compare it to the full TAJI.
(2) It would be neat to see how the DIPx feature importance changes with monotherapy input. For most realistic scenarios in which these models are used robust monotherapy data do exist.
(3) In Figure 2, the authors compare DIPx and TAJI-M on various test sets. If I understood correctly, they also bootstrapped the training set with n=100 and reported all the model variants in many of the comparisons. While this is a nice way of showing model robustness, calculating p-values with bootstrapped data does not make sense in my opinion as by increasing the value of n, one can make the p-value arbitrarily small. The p-value should only be reported for the original models.
(4) From Figures 2 and 3, it appears DIPx is overfit on the training set with large gaps in Spearman correlations between Test Set 2/ONeil set and Test Set 1. It also features much better in cases where it has seen both compounds. Could the authors also compare TAJI on the ONeil dataset to show if it is as much overfit?
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Reviewer #3 (Public Review):
Summary:
Predicting how two different drugs act together by looking at their specific gene targets and pathways is crucial for understanding the biological significance of drug combinations. Such combinations of drugs can lead to synergistic effects that enhance drug efficacy and decrease resistance. This study incorporates drug-specific pathway activation scores (PASs) to estimate synergy scores as one of the key advancements for synergy prediction. The new algorithm, Drug synergy Interaction Prediction (DIPx), developed in this study, uses gene expression, mutation profiles, and drug synergy data to train the model and predict synergy between two drugs and suggests the best combinations based on their functional relevance on the mechanism of action. Comprehensive validations using two different datasets and comparing them with another best-performing algorithm highlight the potential of its capabilities and broader applications. However, the study would benefit from including experimental validation of some predicted drug combinations to enhance its reliability.
Strengths:
The DIPx algorithm demonstrates the strengths listed below in its approach for personalized drug synergy prediction. One of its strengths lies in its utilization of biologically motivated cancer-specific (driver genes-based) and drug-specific (target genes-based) pathway activation scores (PASs) to predict drug synergy. This approach integrates gene expression, mutation profiles, and drug synergy data to capture information about the functional interactions between drug targets, thereby providing a potential biological explanation for the synergistic effects of combined drugs. Additionally, DIPx's performance was tested using the AstraZeneca-Sanger (AZS) DREAM Challenge dataset, especially in Test Set 1, where the Spearman correlation coefficient between predicted and observed drug synergy was 0.50 (95% CI: 0.47-0.53). This demonstrates the algorithm's effectiveness in handling combinations already in the training set. Furthermore, DIPx's ability to handle novel combinations, as evidenced by its performance in Test Set 2, indicates its potential for extrapolating predictions to new and untested drug combinations. This suggests that the algorithm can adapt to and make accurate predictions for previously unencountered combinations, which is crucial for its practical application in personalized medicine. Overall, DIPx's integration of pathway activation scores and its performance in predicting drug synergy for known and novel combinations underscore its potential as a valuable tool for personalized prediction of drug synergy and exploration of activated pathways related to the effects of combined drugs.
Weaknesses:
While the DIPx algorithm shows promise in predicting drug synergy based on pathway activation scores, it's essential to consider its limitations. One limitation is that the algorithm's performance was less accurate when predicting drug synergy for combinations absent from the training set. This suggests that its predictive capability may be influenced by the availability of training data for specific drug combinations. Additionally, further testing and validation across different datasets (more than the current two datasets) would be necessary to assess the algorithm's generalizability and robustness fully. It's also important to consider potential biases in the training data and ensure that DIPx predictions are validated through empirical studies including experimental testing of predicted combinations. Despite these limitations, DIPx represents a valuable step towards personalized prediction of drug synergy and warrants continued investigation and improvement. It would benefit if the algorithm's limitations are described with some examples and suggest future advancement steps.
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Munday, Rosello, and colleagues compared predictions from a group of experts in epidemiology with predictions from two mathematical models on the question of how many Ebola cases would be reported in different geographical zones over the next month. Their study ran from November 2019 to March 2020 during the Ebola virus outbreak in the Democratic Republic of the Congo. Their key result concerned predicted numbers of cases in a defined set of zones. They found that neither the ensemble of models nor the group of experts produced consistently better predictions. Similarly, neither model performed consistently better than the other, and no expert's predictions were consistently better than the others. Experts were also able to specify other zones in which they expected to see cases in the next month. For this part of the analysis, experts consistently outperformed the models. In March, the final month of the analysis, the models' accuracy was lower than in other months and consistently poorer than the experts' predictions.
A strength of the analysis is the use of consistent methodology to elicit predictions from experts during an outbreak that can be compared to observations, and that are comparable to predictions from the models. Results were elicited for a specified group of zones, and experts were also able to suggest other zones that were expected to have diagnosed cases. This likely replicates the type of advice being sought by policymakers during an outbreak.
A potential weakness is that the authors included only two models in their ensemble. Ensembles of greater numbers of models might tend to produce better predictions. The authors do not address whether a greater number of models could outperform the experts.
The elicitation was performed in four months near the end of the outbreak. The authors address some of the implications of this. A potential challenge to the transferability of this result is that the experts' understanding of local idiosyncrasies in transmission may have improved over the course of the outbreak. The model did not have this improvement over time. The comparison of models to experts may therefore not be applicable to the early stages of an outbreak when expert opinions may be less well-tuned.
This research has important implications for both researchers and policy-makers. Mathematical models produce clearly-described predictions that will later be compared to observed outcomes. When model predictions differ greatly from observations, this harms trust in the models, but alternative forms of prediction are seldom so clearly articulated or accurately assessed. If models are discredited without proper assessment of alternatives then we risk losing a valuable source of information that can help guide public health responses. From an academic perspective, this research can help to guide methods for combining expert opinion with model outputs, such as considering how experts can inform models' prior distributions and how model outputs can inform experts' opinions.
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Reviewer #2 (Public Review):
Summary:
The manuscript by Munday et al. presents real-time predictions of geographic spread during an Ebola epidemic in north-eastern DRC. Predictions were elicited from individual experts engaged in outbreak response and from two mathematical models. The authors found comparable performance between experts and models overall, although the models outperformed experts in a few dimensions.
Strengths:
Both individual experts and mathematical models are commonly used to support outbreak response but rarely used together. The manuscript presents an in-depth analysis of the accuracy and decision-relevance of the information provided by each source individually and in combination.
Weaknesses:
A few minor methodological details are currently missing.
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Summary
The authors show that ELS induces a number of brain and behavioral changes in the adult lateral amygdala. These changes include enduring astrocytic dysfunction, and inducing astrocytic dysfunction via genetic interventions is sufficient to phenocopy the behavioral and neural phenotypes. This suggests that astrocyte dysfunction may play a causal role in ELS-associated pathologies.
Strengths:
A strength is the shift in focus to astrocytes to understand how ELS alters adult behavior.
Weaknesses:
The mechanistic links between some of the correlates - altered astrocytic function, changes in neural excitability, and synaptic plasticity in the lateral amygdala and behaviour - are underdeveloped.
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Summary:
The manuscript asks the question of whether astrocytes contribute to behavioral deficits triggered by early life stress. This question is tested by experiments that monitor the effects of early life stress on anxiety-like behaviors, long-term potentiation in the lateral amygdala, and immunohistochemistry of astrocyte-specific (GFAP, Cx43, GLT-1) and general activity (c-Fos ) markers. Secondarily, astrocyte activity in the lateral amygdala is impaired by viruses that suppress gap-junction coupling or reduce astrocyte Ca2+ followed by behavioral, synaptic plasticity, and c-Fos staining. Early life stress is found to reduce the expression of GFAP and Cx43 and to induce translocation of the glucocorticoid receptor to astrocytic nuclei. Both early life stress and astrocyte manipulations are found to result in the generalization of fear to neutral auditory cues. All of the experiments are done well with appropriate statistics and control groups. The manuscript is very well-written and the data are presented clearly. The authors' conclusion that lateral amygdala astrocytes regulate amygdala-dependent behaviors is strongly supported by the data. However, the extent to which astrocytes contribute to behavioral and neuronal consequences of early life stress remains open to debate.
Strengths:
A strong combination of behavioral, electrophysiology, and immunostaining approaches is utilized and possible sex differences in behavioral data are considered. The experiments clearly demonstrate that disruption of astrocyte networks or reduction of astrocyte Ca2+ provokes generalization of fear and impairs long-term potentiation in the lateral amygdala. The provocative finding that astrocyte dysfunction accounts for a subset of behavioral effects of early life stress (e.g. not elevated plus or distance traveled observations) is also perceived as a strength.
Weaknesses:
The main weakness is the absence of more direct evidence that behavioral and neuronal plasticity after early life stress can be attributed to astrocytes. It remains unknown what would happen if astrocyte activity were disrupted concurrently with early life stress or if the facilitation of astrocyte Ca2+ would attenuate early life stress outcomes. As is, the only evidence that early life stress involves astrocytes is nuclear translocation of GR and downregulation of GFAP and Cx43 in Figure 3 which may or may not provoke astrocyte Ca2+ or astrocyte network activity changes.
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Reviewer #2 (Public Review):
Summary:
In this manuscript, Guayasamin et al. show that early-life stress (ELS) can induce a shift in fear generalisation in mice. They took advantage of a fear conditioning paradigm followed by a discrimination test and complemented learning and memory findings with measurements for anxiety-like behaviors. Next, astrocytic dysfunction in the lateral amygdala was investigated at the cellular level by combining staining for c-Fos with astrocyte-related proteins. Changes in excitatory neurotransmission were observed in acute brains slices after ELS suggesting impaired communication between neurons and astrocytes. To confirm the causality of astrocytic-neuronal dysfunction in behavioral changes, viral manipulations were performed in unstressed mice. Occlusion of functional coupling with a dominant negative construct for gap junction connexin 43 or reduction in astrocytic calcium with CalEx mimicked the behavioral changes observed after ELS suggesting that dysfunction of the astrocytic network underlies ELS-induced memory impairments.
Strengths:
Overall, this well-written manuscript highlights a key role for astrocytes in regulating stress-induced behavioral and synaptic deficits in the lateral amygdala in the context of ELS. Results are innovative, and methodological approaches relevant to decipher the role of astrocytes in behaviors. As mentioned by the authors, non-neuronal cells are receiving increasing attention in the neuroscience, stress, and psychiatry fields.
Weaknesses:
I do have several suggestions and comments to address that I believe will improve the clarity and impact of the work. For example, there is currently a lack of information on the timeline for behavioral experiments, tissue collection, etc.
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Summary:<br /> The authors demonstrate that, while the loss of Ezrin increases lysosomal biogenesis and function, its presence is required for the specific endocytosis of EGFR. Upon further investigation, the authors reveal that Ezrin is a crucial intermediary protein that links EGFR to AKT, leading to the phosphorylation and inhibition of TSC. TSC is a critical negative regulator of the mTORC1 complex, which is dysregulated in various diseases, making their findings a valuable addition to multiple fields of study. Their cell signaling findings are translatable to an in vivo Medaka fish model and suggest that Ezrin may play a crucial role in retinal degeneration.
Strengths:<br /> Giamundo, Intartaglia, et al. utilized unbiased proteomic and transcriptomic screens in Ezrin KO cells to investigate the mechanistic function of Ezrin in lysosome and cell signaling pathways. The authors' findings are consistent with past literature demonstrating Ezrin's role in the EGFR and mTORC1 signaling pathways. They used several cell lines, small molecule inhibitors, and cellular and in vivo knockout models to validate signaling changes through biochemical and microscopy assays. Their use of multiple advanced microscopy techniques is also impressive.
Weaknesses:<br /> While the authors demonstrated activation of TSC1 (lysosomal accumulation) and inactivation of Akt (decreased phosphorylation in TSC1), as well as decreased mTORC1 signaling in Ezrin knockout cells, direct experiments showing the rescue of mTORC1 activity by AKT and TSC1 mutants are required to confirm the linear signaling pathway and establish Ezrin as a mediator of EGFR-AKT-TSC1-mTORC1 signaling. Although the authors presented representative images from advanced microscopy techniques to support their claims, there is insufficient quantification of these experiments. Additionally, several immunoblots in the manuscript lack vital loading controls, such as input lanes for immunoprecipitations and loading controls for western blots.
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Reviewer #2 (Public Review):
Summary:<br /> The authors begin with the stated goal of gaining insight into the known repression of autophagy by Ezrin, a major membrane-actin linker that assembles signaling complexes on membranes. RNA and protein expression analysis is consistent with upregulation of lysosomal proteins in Ezrin-deficient MEFs, which the authors confirm by immunostaining and western blotting for lysosomal markers. Expression analysis also implicates EGF signaling as being altered downstream of Ezrin loss, and the authors demonstrate that Ezrin promotes relocalization of EGFR from the plasma membrane to endosomes. Ezrin loss impacts downstream MAPK/Akt/mTORC1 signaling, although the mechanistic links remain unclear. An Ezrin mutant Medaka fish line wa then generated to test Ezrin's role in retinal cells, which are known to be sensitive to changes in autophagy regulation. Phenotypes in this model appear generally consistent with observations made in cultured cells, though mild overall.
Strengths:<br /> Data on the impact of Ezrin-loss on relocalization of EGFR from the plasma membrane are extensive, and thoroughly demonstrate that Ezrin is required for EGFR internalization in response to EGF.
A new Ezrin-deficient in vivo model (Medaka fish) is generated.
Strong data demonstrates that Ezrin loss suppresses Akt signaling. Ezrin loss also clearly suppresses mTORC1 signaling in cell culture, although examination of mTORC1 activity is notably missing in Ezrin-deficient fish.
Weaknesses:<br /> LC3 is used as a readout of autophagy, however the lipidated/unlipidated LC3 ratio generally does not appear to change, thus there does not appear to be evidence that Ezrin loss is affecting autophagy in this study.
The conclusion is drawn that Ezrin loss suppresses EGF signaling, however this is complicated by a strong increase in phosphorylation of the p38 MAPK substrate MK2. Without additional characterization of MAPK and Erk signaling, the effect of Ezrin loss remains unclear.
Causative conclusions between effects on MAPK, Akt, and mTORC1 signaling are frequently drawn, but the data only demonstrate correlations. For example, many signaling pathways can activate mTORC1 including MAPK/Erk, thus reduced mTORC1 activity upon Ezrin-loss cannot currently be attributed to reduced Akt signaling. Similarly, other kinases can phosphorylate TSC2 at the sites examined here, so the conclusion cannot be drawn that Ezrin-loss causes a reduction in Akt-mediated TSC2 phosphorylation. In Figure 7, the conclusion cannot be drawn that retinal degeneration results from aberrant EGFR signaling.
It is unclear why TSC1 is highlighted in the title, as there does not appear to be any specific regulation of TSC1 here.
In Figure 1 the conclusion is drawn that there is an increase in lysosome number with Ezrin KO, however it does not appear that the current analysis can distinguish an increased number from increased lysosome size or activity. Similarly, conclusions about increased lysosome "biogenesis" could instead reflect decreased turnover.
Immunoprecipitation data for a role for Ezrin as a signaling scaffold appear minimal and seem to lack important controls.
In Figure 3A it seems difficult to conclude that EGFR dimerization is reduced since the whole blot, including the background between lanes, is lighter on that side.
In Figure 6C specificity controls for the TSC1 and TSC2 antibodies are not included, but seem necessary since their localization patterns appear very different from each other in WT cells.
In Figure 7 the signaling effects in Ezrin-deficient fish are mild compared to cultured cells, and effects on mTORC1 are not examined. Further data on the retinal cell phenotypes would strengthen the conclusions.
In Figure 7F there appears to be more EGFR throughout the cell, so it is difficult to conclude that more EGFR at the PM in Ezrin-/- fish means reduced internalization.
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Reviewer #3 (Public Review):
Summary:<br /> In this study, the authors have attempted to demonstrate a critical role for the cytoskeletal scaffold protein Ezrin, in the upstream regulation of EGFR/AKT/MTOR signaling. They show that in the absence of Ezrin, ligand-induced EGFR trafficking and activation at the endosomes is perturbed, with decreased endosomal recruitment of the TSC complex, and a corresponding decrease in AKT/MTOR signaling.
Strengths:<br /> The authors have used a combination of novel imaging techniques, as well as conventional proteomic and biochemical assays to substantiate their findings. The findings expand our understanding of the upstream regulators of the EGFR/AKT MTOR signaling and lysosomal biogenesis, appear to be conserved in multiple species, and may have important implications for the pathogenesis and treatment of diseases involving endo-lysosomal function, such as diabetes and cancer, as well as neuro-degenerative diseases like macular degeneration. Furthermore, pharmacological targeting of Ezrin could potentially be utilized in diseases with defective TFEB/TFE3 functions like LSDs. While a majority of the findings appear to support the hypotheses, there are substantial gaps in the findings that could be better addressed. Since Ezrin appears to directly regulate MTOR activity, the effects of Ezrin KO on MTOR-regulated, TFEB/TFE3 -driven lysosomal function should be explored more thoroughly. Similarly, a more convincing analysis of autophagic flux should be carried out. Additionally, many immunoblots lack key controls (Control IgG in co-IPs) and many others merit repetition to either improve upon the quality of the existing data, validate the findings using orthogonal approaches, or provide a more rigorous quantitative assessment of the findings, as highlighted in the recommendation for authors.
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Reviewer #1 (Public Review):
This manuscript validates and extends upon the sigh-generating circuit between the NMB/GRP+ RTN/parafacial neurons and the NMBR/GRPR+ preBötC neurons established in Li et al., 2016. The authors generate multiple transgenic lines that enable selective targeting of these various sub-populations of cells and demonstrate the sufficiency of each type in generating a sigh breath. Additionally, they show that NMBR and GPRP preBötC neurons are glutamatergic, have overlapping and distinct expressions, and do not express SST. Beyond this validation, the authors show that ectopic stimulation of SST neurons is sufficient to evoke sighs and that they are necessary for NMB/GRP-induced sighing. This data is the first time that preBötC neurons downstream of NMBR/GRPR neurons have been identified.
The five conclusions stated at the end of the introduction are supported by the data, but a strong emphasis throughout the manuscript is the identification of an unsubstantiated slow sigh rhythm that is produced by NMBR/GRPR neurons. To make such a novel (and quite surprising) claim requires many more studies and the conclusion is dependent on how the authors have defined a sigh. Moreover, some data within the paper conflicts with this idea.
In summary, the optogenetic and chemogenetic characterization of the neuropeptide pathway transgenic lines nicely aligns with and provides important validation of the previous study by Li et. al., 2016 and the SST neuron studies provide a new mechanism for the transformation of NMBR/GRPR neuropeptide activation into a sigh. These are important findings and they should be the points emphasized. The proposal of a slow sigh rhythm should be more rigorously established with new experiments and analysis or should be more carefully described and discussed.
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Reviewer #2 (Public Review):
Summary:
This study investigates in mice neural mechanisms generating sighs, which are periodic large-amplitude breaths occurring during normal breathing that subserve physiological pulmonary functions and are associated with emotional states such as relief, stress, and anxiety. Sighs are generated by a structure called the preBötzinger complex (preBötC) in the medulla oblongata that generates various forms of inspiratory activity including sighs. The authors have previously described a circuit involving neurons producing bombesin-related peptides Neuromedin B (NMB) and gastrin-releasing peptide (GRP) that project to preBötC neurons expressing receptors for NMB (NMBRs) and GRP (GRPRs) and that activation of these preBötC neurons via these peptide receptors generates sighs. In this study, the authors further investigated mechanisms of sigh generation by applying optogenetic and chemogenetic strategies to selectively activate the subpopulations of preBötC neurons expressing NMBRs and/or GRPRs, and a separate subpopulation of neurons expressing somatostatin (SST) but not NMBRs and GRPRs. The authors present convincing evidence that sigh-like inspirations can be evoked by photostimulation of the preBötC neurons expressing NMBRs or GRPRs. Photostimulation of SST neurons can independently evoke sighs, and chemogenetic inhibition of these neurons can abolish sighs. The results presented support the authors' conclusion that the preBötC neurons expressing NMBRs or GRPRs produce sighs via pathways to downstream SST neurons. Thus, these studies have identified some of the preBötC cellular elements likely involved in generating sighs.
Strengths:
(1) This study employs an effective combination of electrophysiological, transgenic, optogenetic, chemogenetic, pharmacological, and neuron activity imaging techniques to investigate sigh generation by distinct subpopulations of preBötC neurons in mice.
(2) The authors extend previous studies indicating that there is a peptidergic circuit consisting of NMB and GRP expressing neurons that project from the parafacial (pF) nucleus region to the preBötC and provides sufficient input to generate sighs, since photoactivation of either pF NMB or GRP neurons evoke ectopic sighs in this study.
(3) Convincing evidence is presented that sighs can be evoked by direct photostimulation of preBötC neurons expressing NMBRs and/or GRPRs, and also a separate subpopulation of neurons expressing somatostatin (SST) but not NMBRs and GRPRs.
(4) The mRNA-expression data presented from in situ hybridization indicates that most preBötC neurons expressing NMBR, GRPR (or both) are glutamatergic and excitatory.
(5) Measurements in slices in vitro indicate that only the NMBR-expressing neurons are normally rhythmically active during normal inspiratory activity and endogenous sigh activity.
(6) Evidence is presented that activation of preBötC NMBRs and/or GRPRs is not necessary for sigh production, suggesting that sighs are not the unique product of the preBötC bombesin-peptide signaling pathway.
(7) The novel conclusion is presented that the preBötC neurons expressing NMBRs and/or GRPRs produce sighs via the separate downstream population of preBötC SST neurons, which the authors demonstrate can independently generate sighs, whereas chemogenetic inhibition of preBötC SST neurons selectively abolishes sighs generated by activating NMBRs and GRPRs.
Weaknesses:
(1) While these studies have identified subpopulations of preBötC neurons capable of episodically evoking sigh-like inspiratory activity, mechanisms producing the normal slow sigh rhythm were not investigated and remain unknown.
(2) Several key technical aspects of the study require further clarification to aid in interpreting the experimental results, including issues relating to the validation of the transgenic mouse lines and virally transduced expressions of proteins utilized for optogenetic and chemogenetic experiments, as well as justifying the optogenetic photostimulation paradigms used to evoke sighs.
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Reviewer #3 (Public Review):
Summary:
This manuscript by Cui et al., studies the mechanisms for the generation of sighing, an essential breathing pattern. This is an important and interesting topic, as sighing maintains normal pulmonary function and is associated with various emotional conditions. However, the mechanisms of its generation remain not fully understood. The authors employed different approaches, including optogenetics, chemogenetics, intersectional genetic approach, slice electrophysiology, and calcium imaging, to address the question, and found several neuronal populations are sufficient to induce sighing when activated. Furthermore, ectopic sighs can be triggered without the involvement of neuromedin B (NMB) or gastrin-releasing peptide (GRP) or their receptors in the preBötzinger Complex (preBötC) region of the brainstem. Additionally, activating SST neurons in the preBötC region induces sighing, even when other receptors are blocked. Based on these results, the authors concluded that increased excitability in certain neurons (NMBR or GRPR neurons) activates pathways leading to sigh generation, with SST neurons serving as a downstream component in converting regular breaths into sighs
Strengths:
The authors employed a combination of various sophisticated approaches, including optogenetics, chemogenetics, intersectional genetic approach, slice electrophysiology and calcium imaging, to precisely pinpoint the mechanism responsible for sigh generation. They utilized multiple genetically modified mouse lines, enabling them to selectively manipulate and observe specific neuronal populations involved in sighing.
Using genetics and calcium imaging, the authors record the neuronal activity of NMBR and GRPR neurons, respectively, and identify their differences in activity patterns. Furthermore, by applying the intersectional approach, the authors were able to genetically target and manipulate several distinct neuronal populations, such as NMBR+, GRPR- neurons, and GRPR+, NMBR- neurons, and conducted a detailed characterization of their functions in influencing sighing.
Weaknesses:
The authors combined multiple approaches in this manuscript; however, the rationale and experimental details require further explanation, and their impacts on the conclusion require clarification. For instance, how and why the variability in optogenetic activation conditions could impact the experimental outcomes. Additionally, a more detailed characterization of the viral labeling efficiency and specificity is necessary to validate the claims made in these experiments. Without this, the results could be compromised by potential discrepancies in the number of labeled neurons or unintended labeling of other populations.
Moreover, the conclusion that preBötC NMBR and GRPR activations are unnecessary for sighing is not fully supported by the current experimental design. While the study shows that sighing can still be induced despite pharmacological inhibition of NMBR and GRPR, this does not conclusively prove that these receptors are not required under natural conditions. The artificial activation of downstream pathways through optogenetic or chemogenetic methods does not negate the potential physiological role of these receptors in sigh production. Therefore, the interpretation of these findings should be approached with caution, and further investigation is warranted to definitively determine the necessity of NMBR and GRPR activations in the natural sighing process.
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Summary:
Fats and lipids serve many important roles in cancers, including serving as important fuels for energy metabolism in cancer cells by being oxidized in the mitochondria. The process of fatty acid oxidation is initiated by the enzyme carnitine palmitoyltransferase 1A (CPT1A), and the function and targetability of CPT1A in cancer metabolism and biology have been heavily investigated. This includes studies that have found important roles for CPT1A in colorectal cancer growth and metastasis.
In this study, Chen and colleagues use analysis of patient samples and functional interrogation in animal models to examine the role CPT1A plays in colorectal cancer (CRC). The authors find that CPT1A expression is decreased in CRC compared to paired healthy tissue and that lower expression correlates with decreased patient survival over time, suggesting that CPT1A may suppress tumor progression. To functionally interrogate this hypothesis, the authors both use CRISPR to knockout CPT1A in a CRC cell line that expresses CPT1A and overexpress CPT1A in a CRC cell line with low expression. In both systems, increased CPT1A expression decreased cell survival and DNA repair in response to radiation in culture. Further, in xenograft models, CPT1A decreased tumor growth basally and radiotherapy could further decrease tumor growth in CPT1A-expressing tumors. As CRC is often treated with radiotherapy, the authors argue this radiosensitization driven by CPT1A could explain why CPT1A expression correlates with increased patient survival.
Lastly, Chen and colleagues sought to understand why CPT1A suppresses CRC tumor growth and sensitizes the tumors to radiotherapy in culture. The antioxidant capacity of cells can increase cell survival, so the authors examine antioxidant gene expression and levels in CPT1A-expressing and non-expressing cells. CPT1A expression suppresses the expression of antioxidant metabolism genes and lowers levels of antioxidants. Antioxidant metabolism genes can be regulated by the FOXM1 transcription factor, and the authors find that CPT1A expression regulates FOXM1 levels and that antioxidant gene expression can be partially rescued in CPT1A-expressing CRC cells. This leads the authors to propose the following model: CPT1A expression downregulates FOXM1 (via some yet undescribed mechanism) which then leads to decreased antioxidant capacity in CRC cells, thus suppressing tumor progression and increasing radiosensitivity. This is an interesting model that could explain the suppression of CPT1A expression in CRC, but key tenets of the model are untested and speculative.
Strengths:
• Analysis of CPT1A in paired CRC tumors and non-tumor tissue using multiple modalities combined with analysis of independent datasets rigorously show that CPT1A is downregulated in CRC tumors at the RNA and protein level.
• The authors use paired cell line model systems where CPT1A is both knocked out and overexpressed in cell lines that endogenously express or repress CPT1A respectively. These complementary model systems increase the rigor of the study.
• The finding that a metabolic enzyme generally thought to support tumor energetics actually is a tumor suppressor in some settings is theoretically quite interesting.
Weaknesses:
• The authors propose that CPT1A expression modulates antioxidant capacity in cells by suppressing FOXM1 and that this pathway alters CRC growth and radiotherapy response. However, key aspects of this model are not tested. The authors do not show that FOXM1 contributes to the regulation of antioxidant levels in CRC cells and tumors or if FOXM1 suppression is key to the inhibition of CRC tumor growth and radiosensitization by CPT1A. Thus, the model the authors propose is speculative and not supported by the existing data.
• The authors propose two mechanisms by which CPT1A expression triggers radiosensitization: decreasing DNA repair capacity (Figure 3) and decreasing antioxidant capacity (Figure 5). However, while CPT1A expression does alter these capacities in CRC cells, neither is functionally tested to determine if altered DNA repair or antioxidant capacity (or both) are the reason why CRC cells are more sensitive to radiotherapy or are delayed in causing tumors in vivo. Thus, this aspect of the proposed model is also speculative.
• The authors find that CPT1A affects radiosensitization in cell culture and assess this in vivo. In vivo, CPT1A expression slows tumor growth even in the absence of radiotherapy, and radiotherapy only proportionally decreases tumor growth to the same extent as it does in CPT1A non-expressing CRC tumors. The authors propose from this data that CPT1A expression also sensitizes tumors to radiotherapy in vivo. However, it is unclear whether CPT1A expression causes radiosensitization in vivo or if CPT1A expression acts as an independent tumor suppressor to which radiotherapy has an additive effect. Additional experiments would be necessary to differentiate between these possibilities.
• The authors propose in Figure 3 that DNA repair capacity is inhibited in CRC cells by CPT1A expression. However, the gH2AX immunoblots performed in Figure 3H-I that measure DNA repair kinetics are not convincing that CPT1A expression impairs DNA repair kinetics. Separate blots are shown for CPT1A expressing and non-expressing cell lines, not allowing for rigorous comparison of gH2AX levels and resolution as CPT1A expression is modulated.
• There are conflicting studies (PMID: 37977042, 29995871) that suggest that CPT1A is overexpressed in CRC and contributes to tumor progression rather than acting as a tumor suppressor as the authors propose. It would be helpful for readers for the authors to discuss these studies and why there is a discrepancy between them.
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Reviewer #2 (Public Review):
The manuscript by Chen et al. describes how low levels of CPT1A in colorectal cancer (CRC) confer radioresistance by expediting radiation-induced ROS clearance. The authors propose that this mechanism of ROS homeostasis is regulated through FOXM1. CPT1A is known for its role in fatty acid metabolism via beta-oxidation of long-chain fatty acids, making it important in many metabolic disorders and cancers.
Previous studies have suggested that the upregulation of CPT1A is essential for the tumor-promoting effect in colorectal cancers (CRC) (PMID: 32913185). For example, CPT1A-mediated fatty acid oxidation promotes colorectal cancer cell metastasis (PMID: 2999587), and repression of CPT1A activity renders cancer cells more susceptible to killing by cytotoxic T lymphocytes (PMID: 37722058). Additionally, inhibition of CPT1A-mediated fatty-acid oxidation (FAO) sensitizes nasopharyngeal carcinomas to radiation therapy (PMID: 29721083). While this suggests a tumor-promoting effect for CPT1A, the work by Chen et al. suggests instead a tumor-suppressive function for CPT1A in CRC, specifically that loss or low expression of CPT1A confers radioresistance in CRC. This makes the findings important given that they oppose the previously proposed tumorigenic function of CPT1A. However, the data presented in the manuscript is limited in scope and analysis.
Major Limitations:
(1) Analysis of Patient Samples
- Figure 1D shows that CPT1A levels are significantly lower in COAD and READ compared to normal tissues. It would be beneficial to show whether CPT1A levels are also significantly lower in CRC compared to other tumor types using TCGA data.<br /> - The analysis should include a comparison of closely related CPT1 isoforms (CPT1B and CPT1C) to emphasize the specific importance of CPT1A silencing in CRC.<br /> - Figure 2 lacks a clear description of how IHC scores were determined and the criteria used to categorize patients into CPT1A-high and CPT1A-low groups. This should be detailed in the text and figure legend.<br /> - None of Figure 2B or 2C show how many patients were assigned to the CPT1A-low and CPT1A-high groups.
(2) Model Selection and Experimental Approaches
- The authors primarily use CPT1A knockout (KO) HCT116 cells and CPT1A overexpression (OE) SW480 cells for their experiments, which poses major limitations.<br /> - The genetic backgrounds of the cell lines (e.g., HCT116 being microsatellite instable (MSI) and SW480 not) should be considered as they might influence treatment outcomes. This should be acknowledged as a major limitation.<br /> - Regardless of their CPT1A expression levels, for the experiments with HCT116 and SW480 cells in Figure 3C-F, it would be useful to see whether HCT116 cells can be further sensitized to radiotherapy in overexpression and whether SW480 cells can be desensitized through CPT1A KO.<br /> - The use of only two CRC cell lines is insufficient to draw broad conclusions. Additional CRC cell lines should be used to validate the findings and account for genetic heterogeneity. The authors should repeat key experiments with additional CRC cell lines to strengthen their conclusions.
(3) Pharmacological Inhibition
Several studies have reported beneficial outcomes of using CPT1 pharmacological inhibition to limit cancer progression (e.g., PMID: 33528867, PMID: 32198139), including its application in sensitization to radiation therapy (PMID: 30175155). Since the authors argue for the opposite case in CRC, they should show this through pharmacological means such as etomoxir and whether CPT1A inhibition phenocopies their observed genetic KO effect, which would have important implications for using this inhibitor in CRC patients.
(4) Data Representation and Statistical Analysis
- The relative mRNA expression levels across the seven cell lines (Supplementary Figure 1C) differ greatly from those reported in the DepMap (https://depmap.org/portal/). This discrepancy should be addressed.<br /> - The statistical significance of differences in mRNA and protein levels between RT-sensitive and RT-resistant cells should be shown (Supplementary Figure 1C, D).
Conclusion
The study offers significant insights into the role of CPT1A in CRC radioresistance, proposing a tumor-suppressive function. However, the scope and depth of the analysis need to be expanded to fully validate these claims. Additional CRC cell lines, pharmacological inhibition studies, and a more detailed analysis of patient samples are essential to strengthen the conclusions.
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Reviewer #3 (Public Review):
Summary:
The study aims to elucidate the role of CPT1A in developing resistance to radiotherapy in colorectal cancer (CRC). The manuscript is a collection of assays and analyses to identify the mechanism by which CPT1A leads to treatment resistance through increased expression of ROS-scavenging genes facilitated by FOXM1 and provides an argument to counter this role, leading to a reversal of treatment resistance.
Strengths:
The article is well written with sound scientific methodology and results. The assays performed are well within the scope of the hypothesis of the study and provide ample evidence for the role of CPT1A in the development of treatment resistance in colorectal cancer. While providing compelling evidence for their argument, the authors have also rightfully provided limitations of their work.
Weaknesses:
The primary weakness of the study is acknowledged by the authors at the end of the Discussion section of the manuscript. The work heavily relies on bioinformatics and in vitro work with little backing of in vivo and patient data. In terms of animal studies, it is to be noted that the model they have used is nude mice with non-orthotopic, subcutaneous xenograft, which may not be the best recreation of the patient tumor.
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Reviewer #1 (Public Review):
In this paper, the authors provide data to support the existence of a regulatory pathway starting with SPI1-driven ZFP36L1 expression, that goes on to downregulate HDAC3 expression at the transcript level, leading to PD-L1 upregulation due to implied enhanced acetylation of its promoter region. This is therefore an interesting pathway that adds to our understanding of how PD-L1 expression is controlled in gastric cancer. However, this is likely one of many possible pathways that impact PD-L1 expression, which is likely equally important. Thus, while potentially interesting, this is more additive information to the literature rather than a fundamentally new concept/finding.
Overall, there are many experiments presented, which appear to be of good quality, however, there are a number of issues with this that need attention. Moreover, the text is often difficult to follow, partly due to the standard of English, but mainly due to the sparsity of detail in the results section and figure legends. Thus providing an overall assessment of data conclusiveness is not possible at this time. This is exacerbated by frequently extrapolating conclusions beyond what is actually shown in an individual experiment.
Major issues:
(1) All the figure legends need to expand significantly, so it is clear what is being presented. All experiments showing data quantification need the numbers of independent biological replicates to be added, plus an indication of what the P-values are associated with the asterisks (and the tests used).
(2) Related to point 1, the description of the data in the text needs to expand significantly, so the figure panels are interpretable. Examples are given below but this is not an exhaustive list.
(3) The addition of "super-enhancer-driven" to the title is a distraction. This is the starting point but the finding is portrayed by the last part of the title. Moreover, it is not clear why this is a super enhancer rather than just a typical enhancer as only one seems to be relevant and functional. I suggest avoiding this term after initial characterisations.
(4) The descriptions of Figures 1B, C, and D are very poor. How for example do you go from nearly 2000 SE peaks to a couple of hundred target genes? What are the other 90% doing? What is the definition of a target gene? This whole start section needs a complete overhaul to make it understandable and this is important as is what leads us to ZFP36L1 in the first place.
(5) It is impossible to work out what Figures 1F, H, and I are from the accompanying text. The same applies to supplementary Figure S1D. Figure 1G is not described in the results.
(6) What is Figure 2A? There is no axis label or description.
(7) Why is CD274 discussed in the text from Figure 2E but none of the other genes? The rationale needs expanding.
(8) Figure 2G needs zooming in more over the putative SE region and the two enhancers labelling. This looks very strange at the moment and does not show typical peak shapes for histone acetylation at enhancers.
(9) The use of JQ1 does not prove something is a super enhancer, just that it is BRD4 regulated and might be a typical enhancer.
(10) An explanation of how the motifs were identified in E1 is needed. Enrichment over what? Were they purposefully looking for multiple motifs per enhancer? Otherwise what it all comes down to later in the figure is a single motif, and how can that be "enriched"?
(11) A major missing experiment is to deplete rather than over-express SPI1 for the various assays in Figure 4.
(12) The authors start jumping around cell lines, sometimes with little justification. Why is MGC803 used in Figure 4I rather than MKN45? This might be due to more endogenous SPI1. However, this does not make sense in Figure 5M, where ZFP36L is overexpressed in this line rather than MKN45. If SPI1 is already high in MGC803, then the prediction is that ZFP36L1 should already be high. Is this the case?
(13) In Figure 5, HDAC3 should also be depleted to show opposite effects to over-expression (as the latter could be artefactual). Also, direct involvement should be proven by ChIP.
(14) Figure 5G and H are not discussed in the text.
(15) Figure 6C needs explaining. Why are three patients selected here? Are these supposed to be illustrative of the whole cohort? What sub-type of GC are these?
(16) In Figure 6E onwards, they switch to MFC cell line. They provide a rationale but the key regulatory axis should be sown to also be operational in these cells to use this as a model system.
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Reviewer #2 (Public Review):
Summary:
This manuscript by Wei et al studies the role of ZFP36L1, an RNA-binding protein, in promoting PD-L1 expression in gastric cancer (GC). They used human gastric cancer tissues from six patients and performed H3K27ac CUT&Tag to unbiasedly identify SE specific for the infiltrative type. They identified an SE driving the expression of ZFP36L1 and immune evasion through upregulation of PD-L1. Mechanistically, they show that SPI1 binds to ZFP36L1-SE and ZFP36L1 in turn regulates PD-L1 expression through modulation of the 3'UTR of HDAC3. This mechanism of PD-L1 regulation in gastric cancer is novel, and ZFP36L1 has not been previously implicated in GC progression. However, the data presented are largely correlations and no direct proof is presented that the identified SE regulates ZFP36L1 expression. Furthermore, the effect of ZFP36L1 manipulation elicited a modest effect on PDL1 expression. In fact, several cell lines (XGC1, MNK45) express abundant ZFP36L1 but no PD-L1, suggesting the ZFP36L1 per se is not a key stimulant of PD-L1 expression as IFNg is. Thus, the central conclusions are not supported by the data.
Strengths:
Use of human GC specimens to identify SE regulating PD-L1 expression and immune evasion.
Weaknesses:
Major comments:
(1) The difference in H3K27ac over the ZFP36L1 locus and SE between the expanding and infiltrative GC is marginal (Figure 2G). Although the authors establish that ZFP36L1 is upregulated in GC, particularly in the infiltrative subtype, no direct proof is provided that the identified SE is the source of this observation. CRISPR-Cas9 should be employed to delete the identified SE to prove that it is causatively linked to the expression of ZFP36L1.
(2) In Figure 3C the impact of shZFP36L1 on PD-L1 expression is marginal and it is observed in the context of IFNg stimulation. Moreover, in XGC-1 cell line the shZFP36L1 failed to knock down protein expression thus the small decrease in PD-L1 level is likely independent of ZFP36L1. The same is the case in Figure 3D where forced expression of ZFP36L1 does not upregulate the expression of PDL1 and even in the context of IFNg stimulation the effect is marginal.
(3) In Figure 4, it is unclear why ELF1 and E2F1 that bind ZFP36L1-SE do not upregulate its expression and only SPI1 does. In Figure 4D the impact of SPI overexpression on ZFP36L1 in MKN45 cells is marginal. Likewise, the forced expression of SPI did not upregulate PD-L1 which contradicts the model. Only in the context of IFNg PD-L1 is expressed suggesting that whatever role, if any, ZFP36L1-SPI1 axis plays is secondary.
(4) The data presented in Figure 6 are not convincing. First, there is no difference in the tumor growth (Figure 6E). IHC in Figure 6I for CD8a is misleading. Can the authors provide insets to point CD8a cells? This figure also needs quantification and review from a pathologist.
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Reviewer #1 (Public Review):<br /> The manuscript by Lucie Oriol et al. revisits the understanding of interneurons in the ventral tegmental area (VTA). The study challenges the traditional notion that VTA interneurons exclusively form local synapses within the VTA. Key findings of the study indicate that VTA GABA and glutamate projection neurons also make local synapses within the VTA. This evidence suggests that functions previously attributed to VTA interneurons could be mediated by these projection neurons.
The study tested four genetic markers-Parvalbumin (PV), Somatostatin (SST), Mu-opioid receptor (MOR), and Neurotensin (NTS)-to determine if they selectively label VTA interneurons. The findings indicate that these markers label VTA projection neurons rather than selectively identifying interneurons. Using a combination of anatomical tracing and brain slice physiological recordings, the study demonstrates that VTA projection neurons make functional inhibitory or excitatory synapses locally within the VTA. These data challenge the conventional view that VTA GABA neurons are purely interneurons and suggest that inhibitory projection neurons can serve functions previously attributed to VTA interneurons. Thus, some functions traditionally ascribed to interneurons may be carried out by projection neurons with local synapses. This has significant implications for understanding the neural circuits underlying reward, motivation, and addiction.
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Reviewer #2 (Public Review):
Summary:
In this manuscript, the authors use a combination of transgenic animals, intersectional viruses, retrograde tracing, and ex-vivo slice electrophysiology to show that VTA projection neurons synapse locally. First, the authors injected a cre-dependent channelrhodopsin into the VTA of PV, SST, MOR, and NTS-Cre mice. Importantly, PV, SST, MOR, and NTS are molecular markers previously used to describe VTA interneurons. Imaging of known VTA target regions identified that these neurons are not localized to the VTA and instead project to the PFC, NAc, VP, and LHb. Next, the authors used an intersectional viral strategy to label projection neurons with both GFP (membrane localized) and Syn:Ruby (release sites). These experiments identified that VTA projection neurons also make intra-VTA synapses. Finally, the authors use a combination of optogenetics and ex-vivo slice electrophysiology to show that neurons projecting from the VTA to the NAc/VP/PFC also synapse locally. Overall, most of the conclusions seem to be well supported by the data.
Strengths:
Previous literature has described Pvalb, Sst, Oprm1, and Nts as selective markers of VTA interneurons. Here, the authors make use of cre driver lines to show that neurons defined by these genes are not interneurons and project to known VTA target regions. Additionally, the authors convincingly use intersectional viral approaches and slice electrophysiology to show that projection neurons synapse onto neighboring cells within the VTA
Weaknesses:
While the authors use several cre driver lines to identify GABAergic projection neurons, they then use wild-type mice to show that projection neurons synapse onto neighboring cells within the VTA. This does not seem to lend evidence to the idea that previously described "interneurons" are projection neurons that collateralize within the VTA.
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Reviewer #3 (Public Review):
Summary:
This study from Oriol et al. first uses transgenic animals to examine projection targets of specific subtypes of VTA GABA neurons (expressing PV, SST, MOR, or NTS). They follow this with a set of optogenetic experiments showing that VTA projection neurons (regardless of genetic subtype) make local functional connections within the VTA itself. Both of these findings are important advances in the field. Notably, both GABAergic and glutamatergic neurons in the VTA likely exhibit these combined long/short-range projections.
Strengths:
The main strength of this study is the series of optogenetic/electrophysiological experiments that provide detailed circuit connectivity of VTA neurons. The long-range projections to the VP (but not other targets) are also verified to have functional excitatory and inhibitory components. Overall, the experiments are well executed and the results are very relevant in light of the rapidly growing knowledge about the complexity and heterogeneity of VTA circuitry.
Another strength of this study is the well-written and thoughtful discussion regarding the current findings in the context of the long-standing question of whether the VTA does or does not have true interneurons.
Weaknesses:
This study has a few modest shortcomings, of which the first is likely addressable with the authors' existing data, while the latter items will likely need to be deferred to future studies:
(1) Some key anatomical details are difficult to discern from the images shown. In Figure 1, the low-magnification images of the VTA in the first column, while essential for seeing what overall section is being shown, are not of sufficient resolution to distinguish soma from processes. A supplemental figure with higher-resolution images could be helpful. Also, where are the insets shown in the second column obtained from? There is not a corresponding marked region on the low-magnification images. Is this an oversight, or are these insets obtained from other sections that are not shown? Lastly, there is a supplemental figure showing the NAc injection sites corresponding to Figure 5, but not one showing VP or PFC injection sites in Figure 6. Why not?
(2) Because multiple ChR2 neurons are activated in the optogenetic experiments, it is not clear how common is it for any specific projection neuron to make local connections. Are the observed synaptic effects driven by just a few neurons making extensive local collateralizations (while other projection neurons do not), or do most VTA projection neurons have local collaterals? I realize this is a complex question, that may not have an easy answer.
(3) There is something of a conceptual disconnect between the early and later portions of this paper. Whereas Figures 1-4 examine forebrain projections of genetic subtypes of VTA neurons, the optogenetic studies do not address genetic subtypes at all. I do realize that is outside of the scope of the author's intent, but it does give the impression of somewhat different (but related) studies being stitched together. For example, the MOR-expressing neurons seem to project strongly to the VP, but it is not addressed whether these are also the ones making local projections. Also, after showing that PV neurons project to the LHb, the opto experiments do not examine the LHb projection target at all.
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Reviewer #1 (Public Review):
In this study, Franke et al. explore and characterize color response properties across primary visual cortex, revealing specific color opponent encoding strategies across the visual field. The authors use awake 2P imaging to define the spectral response properties of visual interneurons in layer 2/3. They find that opponent responses are more pronounced at photopic light levels, and that diversity in color opponent responses exists across the visual field, with green ON/ UV OFF responses more strongly represented in the upper visual field. This is argued to be relevant for the detection of certain features that are more salient when using chromatic space, possibly due to noise reduction. In the revised version, Franke et al. have addressed the potential pitfalls in the discussion, which is an important point for the non-expert reader. Thus, this study provides a solid characterization of the color properties of V1 and is a valuable addition to visual neuroscience research.
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Reviewer #2 (Public Review):
Summary:
Franke et al. characterize the representation of color in the primary visual cortex of mice, highlighting how this changes across the visual field. Using calcium imaging in awake, head-fixed mice, they characterize the properties of V1 neurons (layer 2/3) using a large center-surround stimulation where green and ultra-violet colors were presented in random combinations. Clustering of responses revealed a set of functional cell-types based on their preference to different combinations of green and UV in their center and surround. These functional types were demonstrated to have different spatial distributions across V1, including one neuronal type (Green-ON/UV-OFF) that was much more prominent in the posterior V1 (i.e. upper visual field). Modelling work suggests that these neurons likely support the detection of predator-like objects in the sky.
Strengths:
The large-scale single-cell resolution imaging used in this work allows the authors to map the responses of individual neurons across large regions of the visual cortex. Combining this large dataset with clustering analysis enabled the authors to group V1 neurons into distinct functional cell types and demonstrate their relative distribution in the upper and lower visual fields. Modelling work demonstrated the different capacity of each functional type to detect objects in the sky, providing insight into the ethological relevance of color opponent neurons in V1.
Weaknesses:
It is unfortunate the authors were unable to provide stronger mechanistic insights into how color opponent neurons in V1 are formed.
Overall, this study will be a valuable resource for researchers studying color vision, cortical processing, and the processing of ethologically relevant information. It provides a useful basis for future work on the origin of color opponency in V1 and its ethological relevance.
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Reviewer #3 (Public Review):
This paper improves our understanding of the coding of chromatic signals in mouse visual cortex. Calcium responses of a large collection of cells are measured in response to a simple spot stimulus. These responses are used to estimate chromatic tuning properties - specifically sensitivity to UV and green stimuli presented in a large central spot or a larger still surrounding region. Cells are divided based on their responses to these stimuli into luminance or chromatic sensitive groups.
The paper has improved substantially in revisions and makes an important contribution to how color is coded in mouse V1. The revisions have nicely clarified a few limitations of the current study, and that serves to emphasize the strengths of the data and clear conclusions that can be drawn from it.
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Summary:<br /> Animals can evaluate food quality in many ways. In contrast to the rapid sensory evaluation with smell and taste, the mechanism of slow nutrient sensation and its impact on food choice is unexplored. The authors utilize C. elegans larvae and their bacterial food as an elegant model to tackle this question and reveal the detailed molecular mechanism to avoid nutrient-poor foods.
Strength:<br /> The strength of this study is that they identified the molecular identities of the critical players in bacterial food and C. elegans using unbiased approaches, namely metabolome analysis, E. coli mutant screening, and RNA sequencing. Furthermore, they strengthened their findings by thorough experiments combining multiple methods such as genetics, fluorescent reporter analysis, and Western blot.
Weakness:<br /> The major caveat of this study is the reporter genes; specifically, transcriptional reporters used to monitor the UPRER and immune responses in the intestine of C. elegans. However, their tissue-specific rescue experiments suggest that the genes in the UPRER and immune response function in the neurons. Thus, we should carefully interpret the results of the reporter genes. Another point to be aware of is that although they show that lack of carbohydrates elicits the response to "low-quality" food, carbohydrate supplementation with heat-killed E. coli was insufficient to support animal growth.
Overall, this work provides convincing data to support their model. In the C. elegans field, the behaviors of larvae are not well studied compared to adults. This work will pose an interesting question about the difference between larvae and adults in nutrition sensing in C. elegans and provide a framework and candidate molecules to be studied in other organisms.
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Summary:<br /> In this work, the authors aim to better understand how C. elegans detects and responds to heat-killed (HK) E. coli, a low-quality food. They find that HK food activates two canonical stress pathways, ER-UPR and innate immunity, in the nervous system to promote food aversion. Through the creative use of E. coli genetics and metabolomics, the authors provide evidence that the altered carbohydrate content of HK food is the trigger for the activation of these stress responses and that supplementation of HK food with sugars (or their biosynthetic product, vitamin C), reduces stress pathway induction and food avoidance. This work makes a valuable addition to the literature on metabolite detection as a mechanism for evaluation of nutritional value; it also provides some new insight into physiologically relevant roles of well-known stress pathways in modulating behavior.
Strengths:<br /> -The work addresses an important question by focusing on understanding how the nervous system evaluates food quality and couples this to behavioral change.<br /> -The work takes full advantage of the tools available in this powerful system and builds on extensive previous studies on feeding behavior and stress responses in C. elegans.<br /> -Creative use of E. coli genetics and metabolite profiling enabled identification of carbohydrate metabolism as a candidate source of food-quality signals.<br /> -For the most part, the studies are rigorous and logically designed, providing good support for the authors' model.
Weaknesses:<br /> -The authors' claim that they can detect induction of hsp-4 and irg-5 expression in neurons (Fig 1-S2A) requires further support. The two tail cells shown are quite a bit larger than would by typically expected for neurons. The rescue they observe by neuronal expression is largely convincing, so it's quite possible that these pathways do indeed function in neurons, but that their level of induction in the nervous system is below reporter detection limits (or is 'swamped out' by much higher levels of expression in the intestine).<br /> -The authors conclude that "the induction of Pirg-5::GFP was abolished in pmk-1 knockdown animals fed with HK-E. coli" (Fig 2D). Because a negative control for induction (e.g., animals fed with control E. coli) is not shown, this conclusion must be regarded as tentative.<br /> -The effect sizes in the food-preference assay shown in Figure 5 are extremely small and do not provide strong support for the strong conclusions about the role of stress response pathways in food preference behavior.
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This paper studies the genetic factors contributing to childhood obesity. Through a comprehensive analysis integrating genome-wide association study (GWAS) data with 3D genomic datasets across 57 human cell types, consisting of Capture-C/Hi-C, ATAC-seq, and RNA-seq, the study identifies significant genetic contributions to obesity using stratified LD score regression, emphasizing the enrichment of genetic signals in pancreatic alpha cells and identification of significant effector genes at obesity-associated loci such as BDNF, ADCY3, TMEM18, and FTO. Additionally, the study implicated ALKAL2, a gene responsive to inflammation in nerve nociceptors, as a novel effector gene at the TMEM18 locus. This suggests a role for inflammatory and neurological pathways in obesity's pathogenesis which was supported through colocalization analysis using eQTL derived from the GTEx dataset. This comprehensive genomic analysis sheds light on the complex genetic architecture of childhood obesity, highlighting the importance of cellular context for future research and the development of more effective strategies.
Strengths:
Overall, the paper has several strengths, including leveraging large-scale, multi-modal datasets, using computational reasonable tools, and having an in-depth discussion of the significant results.
Weaknesses:
(1) The results are somewhat inconclusive or not validated.
The overall results are carefully designed, but most of the results are descriptive. While the authors are able to find additional evidence either from the literature or explain the results with their existing knowledge, none of the results have been biologically validated. Especially, the last three result sections (signaling pathways, eQTLs, and TF binding) further extended their findings, but the authors did not put the major results into any of the figures in the main text.
(2) Some technical details are missing.
While the authors described all of their analysis steps, a lot of the time, they did not mention the motivation. Sometimes, the details were also omitted. For example:
- The manuscript would benefit from a detailed explanation of the methods used to define cREs, particularly the process of intersecting OCRs with chromatin conformation data. The current description does not fully clarify how the cREs are defined.
- How did the authors define a contact region?
- The manuscript would benefit from an explanation regarding the rationale behind the selection of the 57 human cell types analyzed. it is essential to clarify whether these cell types have unique functions or relevance to childhood development and obesity.
- I wonder whether the used epigenome datasets are all from children. Although the authors use literature to support that body weight and obesity remain stable from infancy to adulthood, it remains uncertain whether epigenomic data from other life stages might overlook significant genetic variants that uniquely contribute to childhood obesity.
- Given that the GTEx tissue samples are derived from adult donors, there appears to be a mismatch with the study's focus on childhood obesity. If possible, identifying alternative validation strategies or datasets more closely related to the pediatric population could strengthen the study's findings.
(3) The writing needs to improve.
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Based on previous publications suggesting a potential role for miR-26b in the pathogenesis of metabolic dysfunction-associated steatohepatitis (MASH), the researchers aim to clarify its function in hepatic health and explore the therapeutical potential of lipid nanoparticles (LNPs) to treat this condition. First, they employed both whole-body and myeloid cell-specific miR-26b KO mice and observed elevated hepatic steatosis features in these mice compared to WT controls when subjected to WTD. Moreover, livers from whole-body miR-26b KO mice also displayed increased levels of inflammation and fibrosis markers. Kinase activity profiling analyses revealed distinct alterations, particularly in kinases associated with inflammatory pathways, in these samples. Treatment with LNPs containing miR-26b mimics restored lipid metabolism and kinase activity in these animals. Finally, similar anti-inflammatory effects were observed in the livers of individuals with cirrhosis, whereas elevated miR-26b levels were found in the plasma of these patients in comparison with healthy control. Overall, the authors conclude that miR-26b plays a protective role in MASH and that its delivery via LNPs efficiently mitigates MASH development.
The study has some strengths, most notably, its employ of a combination of animal models, analyses of potential underlying mechanisms, as well as innovative treatment delivery methods with significant promise. However, it also presents numerous weaknesses that leave the research work somewhat incomplete. The precise role of miR-26b in a human context remains elusive, hindering direct translation to clinical practice. Additionally, the evaluation of the kinase activity, although innovative, does not provide a clear molecular mechanisms-based explanation behind the protective role of this miRNA.
Therefore, to fortify the solidity of their conclusions, these concerns require careful attention and resolution. Once these issues are comprehensively addressed, the study stands to make a significant impact on the field.
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Reviewer #2 (Public Review):
Summary:
This manuscript by Peters, Rakateli, et al. aims to characterize the contribution of miR-26b in a mouse model of metabolic dysfunction-associated steatohepatitis (MASH) generated by a Western-type diet on the background of Apoe knock-out. In addition, the authors provide a rescue of the miR-26b using lipid nanoparticles (LNPs), with potential therapeutic implications. In addition, the authors provide useful insights into the role of macrophages and some validation of the effect of miR-26b LNPs on human liver samples.
Strengths:
The authors provide a well-designed mouse model, that aims to characterize the role of miR-26b in a mouse model of metabolic dysfunction-associated steatohepatitis (MASH) generated by a Western-type diet on the background of Apoe knock-out. The rescue of the phenotypes associated with the model used using miR-26b using lipid nanoparticles (LNPs) provides an interesting avenue to novel potential therapeutic avenues.
Weaknesses:
Although the authors provide a new and interesting avenue to understand the role of miR-26b in MASH, the study needs some additional validations and mechanistic insights in order to strengthen the author's conclusions.
(1) Analysis of the expression of miRNAs based on miRNA-seq of human samples (see https://ccb-compute.cs.uni-saarland.de/isomirdb/mirnas) suggests that miR-26b-5p is highly abundant both on liver and blood. It seems hard to reconcile that despite miRNA abundance being similar in both tissues, the physiological effects claimed by the authors in Figure 2 come exclusively from the myeloid (macrophages).
(2) Similarly, the miRNA-seq expression from isomirdb suggests also that expression of miR-26a-5p is indeed 4-fold higher than miR-26b-5p both in the liver and blood. Since both miRNAs share the same seed sequence, and most of the supplemental regions (only 2 nt difference), their endogenous targets must be highly overlapped. It would be interesting to know whether deletion of miR-26b is somehow compensated by increased expression of miR-26a-5p loci. That would suggest that the model is rather a depletion of miR-26.
UUCAAGUAAUUCAGGAUAGGU mmu-miR-26b-5p mature miRNA<br /> UUCAAGUAAUCCAGGAUAGGCU mmu-miR-26a-5p mature miRNA
(3) Similarly, the miRNA-seq expression from isomirdb suggests also that expression of miR-26b-5p is indeed 50-fold higher than miR-26b-3p in the liver and blood. This difference in abundance of the two strands is usually regarded as one of them being the guide strand (in this case the 5p) and the other being the passenger (in this case the 3p). In some cases, passenger strands can be a byproduct of miRNA biogenesis, thus the rescue experiments using LNPs with both strands in equimolar amounts would not reflect the physiological abundance miR-26b-3p. The non-physiological overabundance of miR-26b-3p would constitute a source of undesired off-targets.
(4) It would also be valuable to check the miRNA levels on the liver upon LNP treatment, or at least the signatures of miR-26b-3p and miR-26b-5p activity using RNA-seq on the RNA samples already collected.
(5) Some of the phenotypes described, such as the increase in cholesterol, overlap with the previous publication by van der Vorst et al. BMC Genom Data (2021), despite in this case the authors are doing their model in Apoe knock-out and Western-type diet. I would encourage the authors to investigate more or discuss why the initial phenotypes don't become more obvious despite the stressors added in the current manuscript.
(6) The authors have focused part of their analysis on a few gene makers that show relatively modest changes. Deeper characterization using RNA-seq might reveal other genes that are more profoundly impacted by miR-26 depletion. It would strengthen the conclusions proposed if the authors validated that changes in mRNA abundance (Sra, Cd36) do impact the protein abundance. These relatively small changes or trends in mRNA expression, might not translate into changes in protein abundance.
(7) In Figures 5 and 7, the authors run a phosphorylation array (STK) to analyze the changes in the activity of the kinome. It seems that a relatively large number of signaling pathways are being altered, I think that should be strengthened by further validations by Western blot on the collected tissue samples. For quite a few of the kinases, there might be antibodies that recognise phosphorylation. The two figures lack a mechanistic connection to the rest of the manuscript.
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Reviewer #1 (Public Review):
The manuscript by Li et al. investigates the metabolism-independent role of nuclear IDH1 in chromatin state reprogramming during erythropoiesis. The authors describe accumulation and redistribution of histone H3K79me3, and downregulation of SIRT1, as a cause for dyserythropoiesis observed due to IDH1 deficiency. The authors studied the consequences of IDH1 knockdown, and targeted knockout of nuclear IDH1, in normal human erythroid cells derived from hematopoietic stem and progenitor cells and HUDEP2 cells respectively. They further correlate some of the observations such as nuclear localization of IDH1 and aberrant localization of histone modifications in MDS and AML patient samples harboring IDH1 mutations. These observations are intriguing from a mechanistic perspective and they hold therapeutic significance, however there are major concerns that make the inferences presented in the manuscript less convincing.
(1) The authors show the presence of nuclear IDH1 both by cell fractionation and IF, and employ an efficient strategy to knock out nuclear IDH1 (knockout IDH1/ Sg-IDH1 and rescue with the NES tagged IDH1/ Sg-NES-IDH1 that does not enter the nucleus) in HUDEP2 cells. However, some important controls are missing.<br /> A) In Figure 3C, for IDH1 staining, Sg-IDH1 knockout control is missing.<br /> B) Wild-type IDH1 rescue control (ie., IDH1 without NES tag) is missing to gauge the maximum rescue that is possible with this system.
(2) Considering the nuclear knockout of IDH1 (Sg-NES-IDH1 referenced in the previous point) is a key experimental system that the authors have employed to delineate non-metabolic functions of IDH1 in human erythropoiesis, some critical experiments are lacking to make convincing inferences.<br /> A) The authors rely on IF to show the nuclear deletion of Sg-NES-IDH1 HUDEP2 cells. As mentioned earlier since a knockout control is missing in IF experiments, a cellular fractionation experiment (similar to what is shown in Figure 2F) is required to convincingly show the nuclear deletion in these cells.<br /> B) Since the authors attribute nuclear localization to a lack of metabolic/enzymatic functions, it is important to show the status of ROS and alpha-KG in the Sg-NES-IDH1 in comparison to control, wild type rescue, and knockout HUDEP2 cells. The authors observe an increase of ROS and a decrease of alpha-KG upon IDH1 knockdown. If nuclear IDH1 is not involved in metabolic functions, is there only a minimal or no impact of the nuclear knockout of IDH1 on ROS and alpha-KG, in comparison to complete knockout? These studies are lacking.<br /> C) Authors show that later stages of terminal differentiation are impacted in IDH1 knockdown human erythroid cells. They also report abnormal nuclear morphology, an increase in euchromatin, and enucleation defects. However, the authors only report abnormal nuclear morphology in Sg-NES-IDH1 cells, as evaluated by cytospins. It is important to show the status of the other phenotypes (progression through terminal differentiation, euchromatin %, and enucleation) similar to the quantitations in the IDH1 knockdown cells.
(3) The authors report abnormal nuclear phenotype in IDH1 deficient erythroid cells. It is not clear what parameters are used here to define and quantify abnormal nuclei. Based on the cytospins (eg., Figure 1A, 3D) many multinucleated cells are seen in both shIDH1 and Sg-NES-IDH1 erythroid cells, compared to control cells. Importantly, this phenotype and enucleation defects are not rescued by the administration of alpha-KG (Figures 1E, F). The authors study these nuclei with electron microscopy and report increased euchromatin in Figure 4B. However, there is no discussion or quantification of polyploidy/multinucleation in the IDH1 deficient cells, despite their increased presence in the cytospins.
A) PI staining followed by cell cycle FACS will be helpful in gauging the extent of polyploidy in IDH1 deficient cells and could add to the discussions of the defects related to abnormal nuclei.<br /> B) For electron microscopy quantification in Figures 4B and C, how the quantification was done and the labelling of the y-axis (% of euchromatin and heterochromatin) in Figure 4 C is not clear and is confusingly presented. The details on how the quantification was done and a clear label (y-axis in Figure 4C) for the quantification are needed.<br /> C) As mentioned earlier, what parameters were used to define and quantify abnormal nuclei (e.g. Figure 1A) needs to be discussed clearly. The red arrows in Figure 1A all point to bi/multinucleated cells. If this is the case, this needs to be made clear.
(4) The authors mention that their previous study (reference #22) showed that ROS scavengers did not rescue dyseythropoiesis in shIDH1 cells. However, in this referenced study they did report that vitamin C, a ROS scavenger, partially rescued enucleation in IDH1 deficient cells and completely suppressed abnormal nuclei in both control and IDH1 deficient cells, in addition to restoring redox homeostasis by scavenging reactive oxygen species in shIDH1 erythroid cells. In the current study, the authors used ROS scavengers GSH and NAC in shIDH1 erythroid cells and showed that they do not rescue abnormal nuclei phenotype and enucleation defects. The differences between the results in their previous study with vitamin C vs GSH and NAC in the context of IDH1 deficiency need to be discussed.
(5) The authors describe an increase in euchromatin as the consequential abnormal nuclei phenotype in shIDH1 erythroid cells. However, in their RNA-seq, they observe an almost equal number of genes that are up and down-regulated in shIDH1 cells compared to control cells. If possible, an RNA-Seq in nuclear knockout Sg-NES-IDH1 erythroid cells in comparison with knockout and wild-type cells will be helpful to tease out whether a specific absence of IDH1 in the nucleus (ie., lack of metabolic functions of IDH) impacts gene expression differently.
(6) In Figure 8, the authors show data related to SIRT1's role in mediating non-metabolic, chromatin-associated functions of IDH1.<br /> A) The authors show that SIRT1 inhibition leads to a rescue of enucleation and abnormal nuclei. However, whether this rescues the progression through the late stages of terminal differentiation and the euchromatin/heterochromatin ratio is not clear.<br /> B) In addition, since the authors attribute a role of SIRT1 in mediating non-metabolic chromatin-associated functions of IDH1, documenting ROS levels and alpha-KG is important, to compare with what they showed for shIDH1 cells.
(7) In Figure 4 and Supplemental Figure 8, the authors show the accumulation and altered cellular localization of H3K79me3, H3K9me3, and H3K27me2, and the lack of accumulation of other three histone modifications they tested (H3K4me3, H3K35me4, and H3K36me2) in shIDH1 cells. They also show the accumulation and altered localization of the specific histone marks in Sg-NES-IDH1 HUDEP2 cells.<br /> A) To aid better comparison of these histone modifications, it will be helpful to show the cell fractionation data of the three histone modifications that did not accumulate (H3K4me3, H3K35me4, and H3K36me2), similar to what was shown in Figure 4E for H3K79me3, H3K9me3, and H3K27me2).<br /> B) Further, the cell fractionation and staining for histone marks is done in human primary erythroid cells on day15 of terminal differentiation, and these studies revealed that H3K79me3, H3K9me3, and H3K27me2 were retained in the nucleus in shIDH1 cells unlike a cellular localization observed in control cells. The authors cite reference #40 in relation to the cellular localization of histones - in this study, it was shown that the cellular export of histone to cytosol happens during later stages of terminal differentiation. In the current manuscript, the authors observe nuclear IDH1 throughout erythropoiesis and have shown this at both early and late time points of differentiation (between day7 to day15 of differentiation in primary erythroid cells, between day0 to day8 in HUDEP2 cells) in Figure 2. To help correlate the dynamics of localization and to discuss the mechanism for the retention of histone marks in the nucleus in IDH1 deficient cells, it will be helpful to show the cellular location of histone marks using cell fractionations for both early and late time points in terminal erythroid differentiation, similar to what they showed for IDH1 localization studies.<br /> C) Among the three histone marks that are dysregulated in IDH1 deficient cells (H3K79me3, H3K9me3, and H3K27me2), the authors show via ChIP-seq (Fig5) that H3K79me3 is the critical factor. However, the ChIP-seq data shown here lacks many details and this makes it hard to interpret the data. For example, in Figure 5A, they do not mention which samples the data shown correspond to (are these differential peaks in shIDH1 compared to shLuc cells?). There is also no mention of how many replicates were used for the ChIP seq studies.
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Reviewer #2 (Public Review):
Li and colleagues investigate the enzymatic activity-independent function of IDH1 in regulating erythropoiesis. This manuscript reveals that IDH1 deficiency in the nucleus leads to the redistribution of histone marks (especially H3K79me3) and chromatin state reprogramming. Their findings suggest a non-typical localization and function of the metabolic enzyme, providing new insights for further studies into the non-metabolic roles of metabolic enzymes. However, there are still some issues that need addressing:
(1) Could the authors show the RNA and protein expression levels (without fractionation) of IDH1 on different days throughout the human CD34+ erythroid differentiation?
(2) Even though the human CD34+ erythroid differentiation protocol was published and cited in the manuscript, it would be helpful to specify which erythroid stages correspond to cells on days 7, 9, 11, 13, and 15.
(3) It is important to mention on which day the lentiviral knockdown of IDH1 was performed. Will the phenotype differ if the knockdown is performed in early vs. late erythropoiesis? In Figures 1C and 1D, on which day do the authors begin the knockdown of IDH1 and administer NAC and GSH treatments?
(4) The authors validate that IDH1 regulates erythropoiesis in an enzymatic activity-independent manner by adding ROS scavengers or α-KG. Given the complexity of metabolic pathways, these two strategies may not suffice. Mutating the enzymatic active site could provide a clearer explanation for this point.
(5) While the cell phenotype of IDH1 deficiency is quite dramatic, yielding cells with larger nuclei and multi-nuclei, the authors only attribute this phenotype to defects in chromatin condensation. Is it possible that IDH1-knockdown cells also exhibit primary defects in mitosis/cytokinesis (not just secondary to the nuclear condensation defect)?), given the function of H3K79Me in cell cycle regulation?
(6) Why are there two bands of Histone H3 in Figure 4A?
(7) Are the density and localization of histone modifications (not just H3K79me3) in Sg-NEG-IDH1 HuDEP2 cells similar to those in IDH1-shRNA erythroid cells compared to control cells?
(8) Displaying a heatmap and profile plots in Figure 5A between control and IDH1-deficient cells will help illustrate changes in H3K79me3 density in the nucleus after IDH1 knockdown.
(9) Are the distribution and intensity of H3K79me3 in primary healthy erythroid cells in the bone marrow similar to or distinct from those in AML and MDS cells? The authors could present at least one sample of healthy donor cells for comparison.
(10) In Figure 7E, why are the bands of Luciferase-shRNA in the input and probe both light, while the bands of IDH1-shRNA are both dark? This suggests that the expression of KLF1 is much higher in IDH1-shRNA cells than in control cells. Therefore, this result may not strongly support the increased binding of KLF1 at the SIRT1 promoter after IDH1 knockdown.
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Li, Zhang, Wu, and colleagues describe a new role for nuclear IDH1 in erythroid differentiation independent from its enzymatic function. IDH1 depletion results in a terminal erythroid differentiation defect with polychromatic and orthochromatic erythroblasts showing abnormal nuclei, nuclear condensation defects, and an increased proportion of euchromatin, as well as enucleation defects. Using ChIP-seq for the histone modifications H3K79me3, H3K27me2, and H3K9me3, as well as ATAC-seq and RNA-seq in primary CD34-derived erythroblasts, the authors elucidate SIRT1 as a key dysregulated gene that is upregulated upon IDH1 knockdown. They furthermore show that chemical inhibition of SIRT1 partially rescues the abnormal nuclear morphology and enucleation defect during IDH1-deficient erythroid differentiation. The phenotype of delayed erythroid maturation and enucleation upon IDH1 shRNA-mediated knockdown was described in the group's previous co-authored study (PMID: 33535038). The authors' new hypothesis of an enzyme- and metabolism-independent role of IDH1 in this process is currently not supported by conclusive experimental evidence as discussed in more detail further below. On the other hand, while the dependency of IDH1 mutant cells on NAD+, as well as cell survival benefit upon SIRT1 inhibition, has already been shown (see, e.g, PMID: 26678339, PMID: 32710757), previous studies focused on cancer cell lines and did not look at a developmental differentiation process, which makes this study interesting.
(1) The central hypothesis that IDH1 has a role independent of its enzymatic function is interesting but not supported by the experiments. One of the author's supporting arguments for their claim is that alpha-ketoglutarate (aKG) does not rescue the IDH1 phenotype of reduced enucleation. However, in the group's previous co-authored study (PMID: 33535038), they show that when IDH1 is knocked down, the addition of aKG even exacerbates the reduced enucleation phenotype, which could indicate that aKG catalysis by cytoplasmic IDH1 enzyme is important during terminal erythroid differentiation. A definitive experiment to test the requirement of IDH1's enzymatic function in erythropoiesis would be to knock down/out IDH1 and re-express an IDH1 catalytic site mutant. The authors perform an interesting genetic manipulation in HUDEP-2 cells to address a nucleus-specific role of IDH1 through CRISPR/Cas-mediated IDH1 knockout followed by overexpression of an IDH1 construct containing a nuclear export signal. However, this system is only used to show nuclear abnormalities and (not quantified) accumulation of H3K79me3 upon nuclear exclusion of IDH1. Otherwise, a global IDH1 shRNA knockdown approach is employed, which will affect both forms of IDH1, cytoplasmic and nuclear. In this system and even the NES-IDH1 system, an enzymatic role of IDH1 cannot be excluded because (1) shRNA selection takes several days, prohibiting the assessment of direct effects of IDH1 loss of function (only a degron approach could address this if IDH1's half-life is short), and (2) metabolic activity of this part of the TCA cycle in the nucleus has recently been demonstrated (PMID: 36044572), and thus even a nuclear role of IDH1 could be linked to its enzymatic function, which makes it a challenging task to separate two functions if they exist.
(2) It is not clear how the enrichment of H3K9me3, a prominent marker of heterochromatin, upon IDH1 knockdown in the primary erythroid culture (Figure 4), goes along with a 2-3-fold increase in euchromatin. Furthermore, in the immunofluorescence (IF) experiments presented in Figure 4Db, it seems that H3K9me3 levels decrease in intensity (the signal seems more diffuse), which seems to contrast the ChIP-seq data. It would be interesting to test for localization of other heterochromatin marks such as HP1gamma. As a related point, it is not clear at what stage of erythroid differentiation the ATAC-seq was performed upon luciferase- and IDH1-shRNA-mediated knockdown shown in Figure 6. If it was done at a similar stage (Day 15) as the electron microscopy in Figure 4B, then the authors should explain the discrepancy between the vast increase in euchromatin and the rather small increase in ATAC-seq signal upon IDH1 knockdown.
(3) The subcellular localization of IDH1, in particular its presence on chromatin, is not convincing in light of histone H3 being enriched in the cytoplasm on the same Western blot. H3 would be expected to be mostly localized to the chromatin fraction (see, e.g., PMID: 31408165 that the authors cite). The same issue is seen in Figure 4A.
(4) This manuscript will highly benefit from more precise and complete explanations of the experiments performed, the material and methods used, and the results presented. At times, the wording is confusing. As an example, one of the "Key points" is described as "Dyserythropoiesis is caused by downregulation of SIRT1 induced by H3K79me3 accumulation." It should probably read "upregulation of SIRT1".
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Summary:
The authors applied a domain adaptation method using the principal of optimal transport (OT) to superimpose read count data onto each other. While the title suggests that the presented method is independent from and performs better than other methods of bias correction, the presented work uses a self-implemented version of GC bias correction apart of the OT domain adaptation. Performance comparisons were done both on normalized read counts as well as on copy number profiles which is already the complete set of presented use cases. Results involving copy number profiles from iChorCNA were also subjected to the bias correction measures implemented there. It is not clear at many points which correction method actually causes the observed performance.
Strengths:
The quality of superimposing distributions of normalized read counts (and copy number profiles) was sufficiently shown using uniformly distributed p-values in the interval of 0 to 1 for healthy controls D7 and D8 which differed in the choice of library preparation kit.
The ability to select a sample from the source domain for samples in the target domain was demonstrated.
Weaknesses:
Experiment Design:
The chosen bias correction methods are not explicitly designed for nor aimed at domain adaptation. The benchmark against GC bias correction while doing GC bias correction during the OT procedure is probably the most striking flaw of the entire work. GC bias correction has the purpose of correction GC biases, wherever present, NOT correcting categorical pre-analytical variables of undefined character. A more thorough examination of the presented results should address why plain iChor CNA is the best performing "domain adaptation" in some cases. Also, the extent to which the implemented GC bias correction is contributing to the performance increase independent of the OT procedure should be assessed separately in each case.<br /> Moreover, the center-and-scale standardization is probably not the most relevant contestant in domain adaptation that is out there.
Comparison of cohorts (domains) - especially healthy from D7 and D8 - it is not described which type of ChIP analysis was done for the healthy controls of the D7 domain. The utilized library preparation kit implies that D7 represents a subset of available cfDNA in a plasma sample by precipitating only certain cfDNA fragments to which undisclosed type of protein was bound. Even if the type of protein turns out to be histones, the extracted subset of cfDNA should not be regarded as coming from the same distribution of cfNDAs. For example, fragments with sub-mononucleosomal length would be depleted in the ChIP-seq data set while these could be extracted in an untargeted cfDNA sequencing data set. It needs to be clarified why the authors deem D7 and D8 healthy controls to be identical with regards to SCNA analysis. Best start with the protein targets of D7 ChIP-seq samples.
From the Illumina TruSeq ChIP product description page:<br /> "TruSeq ChIP Libary Preparation Kits provide a simple, cost-effective solution for generating chromatin immunoprecipitation sequencing (ChIP-Seq) libraries from ChIP-derived DNA. ChIP-seq leverages next-generation sequencing (NGS) to quickly and efficiently determine the distribution and abundance of DNA-bound protein targets of interest across the genome."
Redundancy:
Some parts throughout the results and discussion part reappear in the methods. The description of the methodology should be concentrated in the method section and only reiterated in a summarizing fashion where absolutely necessary.<br /> Unnecessary repetition inflate the presented work which is not appealing to the reader. Rather include more details of the utilized materials and methods in the corresponding section.
Transparency:
At the time point of review, the code was not available under the provided link.<br /> A part of the healthy controls from D8 is not contained under the provided accession (367 healthy samples are available in the data base vs. sum of D7 and D8 healthy controls is 499)
Neither in the paper nor in reference 4 is an explanation of what was targeted with the ChIP-seq approach.
Consistency:
It is not evident why a ChIP-seq library prep kit was used (sample cohorts designated as D7). The DNA isolation procedure was not presented as having an immunoprecipitation step. Furthermore, it is not clear which DNA bound proteins were targeted during ChIP seq, if such an immunoprecipitation was actually carried out.The authors self-implemented a GC bias correction procedure although they already mentioned other procedures earlier like LIQUORICE. Also, there already exist tools that can be used to correct GC bias, like deepTools (github.com/deeptools/deepTools). Other GC bias correction algorithms designed specifically for cfDNA would be Griffin (github.com/adoebley/Griffin) and GCparagon (github.com/BGSpiegl/GCparagon). When benchmarking against state-of-the-art cfDNA GC bias correction, these algorithms should appear in a relevant scientific work, somewhere other than the introduction, preferably in the results section. It should be shown that the chosen GC bias correction method is performing best under the given circumstances.
Accuracy:
Use clear labels for each group of samples. The domain number is not sufficient to effectively distinguish sample groups. Already the source name plus a simple enumeration would improve the clarity at some points.
The healthy controls of D7 and D8 are described but the numbers do not add up (257 healthy controls in line 227 vs. 260 healthy controls in line 389). Please double check this and use representative sample cohort labels in the materials description for improved clarity!
Avoid statements like "the rest" when talking about a mixed set of samples. It is not clear how many samples from which domain are addressed.
For optimal transport, knowledge about the destination is required ("where do I want to transport to?") and, thus, the proposed method can never be unsupervised. It is always necessary to know the label of both the source and target domains. In practice, this is not often the case and users might fall prey to the error of superimposing data that is actually separated by valid differences in some experimental variables.
Seemingly arbitrary cutoff values are mentioned. For example, it is not clear if choosing "the cutoff that produced the highest MCCs" is meant across methods or for each method separately (are the results for each method reported that also resulted in the highest MCC for that method?).
The Euclidean metric for assessing the similarity of (normalized) read counts is questionable for a high dimensional space: read counts are assessed for 1 Mb genomic intervals which yields around 3000 intervals (dimensions), depending on the number of excluded intervals (which was not described in more detail). There might be more appropriate measures in this high dimensional space.
It is sometimes not clear what data actually is presented. An example would be the caption of Figure 2, (C): it is suggested that all (320) ovarian cancer cases are shown in one copy number profile.
Furthermore, the authors do not make a distinction between male and female samples. A clarification is needed why the authors think SCNAs of ovarian cancer samples should be called against a reference set that contains male controls.<br /> The procedure would likely benefit from a strict separation of male and female cases which would also allow for chrX (and chrY) being included in downstream analysis.
The GC bias and mappability correction implicitly done by iChorCNA for the SCNA profile comparison is presented as "no correction" which is highly misleading. (for clarification, this is also deemed inappropriate, not just inaccurate))
The majority of interpretations presented procedure does not give any significant improvement regarding the similarity of copy number profiles are off and in many instances favor the OT procedure in an unscientific and highly inappropriate manner.
Apart of duplicate marking (which is not specified any further - provide the command(s)!), there is no information on which read (pairs) were used (primary, secondary, supplementary, mapped in a proper pair, fragment length restrictions, clipping restrictions, etc.). The authors should explain why base quality score re-calibration was done as this might be an unnecessary step if the base quality values are not used later on.
The adaptation method presented as "center-and-scale standardization" is inappropriate for unbalanced cancer profiles since it assumes the presence of identical SCNAs in all samples belonging to the same cancer entity.<br /> Please explain why normalizing 1 Mb genomic intervals to the average copy number across different cancer samples should be valid or use another domain adaptation method for performance comparison.
Statements like in line 83 (unsupervised DA) are plain wrong because transport from one domain to another requires the selection of a target domain based on a label, e.g., based on health status, cancer entity, or similar.
Relevance and Appropriateness:
Many of the presented results are not relevant or details of the procedure were incomprehensible or incomplete: the results presented in table 2 - sample assignment. The Euclidean metric seems to be inappropriate for high dimensional data. Also the selection of the cutoff based on Euclidean distance seems to enable the optimization in favor of the OT procedure. It is hypothesized that there might exist other cutoff values for which the selection of samples form the source domain would also work for other correction methods but this is not further described. It could simply be the case that OT can assign a relationship between domains
The statement that there are no continuous pre-analytical variables is wrong (304). The effect of target depth-of-coverage (DoC) was not analyzed although this represents one of the most common (continuous) and difficult to control variables in NGS data analysis. The inclusion of multiple samples from a single patient in a cohort likely represents introduction of a confounding factor ["contamination"] to the model training procedure: the temporal difference that lies between the taken samples of that patient represents leakage of information. As far as can be told from the presented data, this potential bias has not been ruled out (e.g., exclusion of all samples beyond the first from each patient or alternatively: picking all samples of a patient either for the training set or the test set).
Conscientiousness:
Statements like "good"/"best" on their own should be avoided. A clear description of why a certain procedure/methodology/algorithm performs better should be preferred in scientific writing (e.g., "highest MCC values" instead of "best MCC values").<br /> Otherwise, such statements represent mere opinions of the author rather than an unbiased evaluation of the results.<br /> The domain D8 of healthy controls seems to contain samples from multiple sources (some published other in-house). Contrary to the data availability statement (533), not all healthy control samples of the HEMA data set are available from ArrayExpress
Other Major Concerns:
Potential Irrelevance:
The manuscript represents a mere performance assessment of the proposed sWGS per-bin-read-count fitting procedure and, thus, a verification in its character, not a validation (although the model training itself was "validated" - but this is to be viewed separately from the validity of the achieved correction in a biological context). A proper (biological) validation is missing.
It is of utmost importance that parameters of the adapted (transported) samples -that lie outside of what has been optimized to be highly similar- are checked to actually validate the procedure. Especially biological signals and genome-wide parameters (GC content distribution before/after transport) need to be addressed also in hindsight of the rampant criticism towards GC bias correction by the authors. At no point in the manuscript was GC bias addressed properly, i.e., how much of an improvement is expected from GC bias correction if there is no significant GC bias?
The (potential - not clear so far) ability of making ChIP-seq data look like cfDNA data (even if only the copy number profiles SCNAs appear highly similar) raises the concern of potential future users of the tool to superimpose domains that should not be superimposed form a biological point of view because the true domain the superimposed cohorts belong to are different. The ability to superimpose anything onto anything s troubling. There is no control mechanism that allows for failure in cases where the superposition is invalid.
Chromosome X was excluded which could be avoided if data sets were split according to biological sex.
The difference between the distributions was never attributed to GC bias, hence, the benchmark against GC bias correction tools might not be relevant in the first place.
Stability of OT data transformation:
The authors state that the straight forward choice of lambda resulted in many occasions where disruptions (of unspecified nature and amplitude) are introduced in the copy number profiles of transformed data. It is not evident from the proposed work to which extent this behavior was removed from the procedure and if it can occur and how the user could resolve such a problem on their own.
In summary, the presented work needs considerable adaptation and additions before it can actually be considered a valuable contribution to the liquid biopsy field.
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Reviewer #2 (Public Review):
The authors present a computational methodology for de-biasing/denoising high-throughput genomic signals using optimal transport techniques, thus allowing disparate datasets to be merged and jointly analysed. They apply this methodology on liquid biopsy data and they demonstrate improved performance (compared to simpler bias-correcting approaches) for cancer detection using common machine learning algorithms. This is a theoretically interesting and potentially useful approach for addressing a very common practical problem in computational genomics.
I have the following recommendations:
(1) When comparing performance metrics between different approaches (e.g., tables 3 and 4), 95% confidence intervals should also be provided and a pairwise statistical test should be applied to establish whether the observed difference in each performance metric between the proposed method and the alternatives is statistically significant, thus justifying the claim that the proposed method offers an improvement over existing methodologies.
(2) The commonly used center-and-scale and GC debias approaches presented by the authors are fairly simple. How does their methodology compare to more elaborate approaches, such as tangent normalisation (https://academic.oup.com/bioinformatics/article/38/20/4677/6678978) and robust PCA (https://github.com/mskilab-org/dryclean)?
(3) What is the computational cost of the proposed methodology and how does it compare to the alternatives?
(4) The proposed approach relies on a reference dataset, against which a given dataset is adapted. What are the implications for cross-validation experiments (which are essential for assessing the out-of-sample error of every methodology), particularly with regards to the requirement to avoid information leakage between training and validation/test data sets?
In conclusion, this is an interesting and potentially useful paper and I would like to encourage the authors to address the above points, which hopefully will strengthen their case.
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Summary:
The paper sets out to examine the social recognition abilities of a 'solitary' jumping spider species. It demonstrates that based on vision alone spiders can habituate and dishabituate to the presence of conspecifics. The data support the interpretation that these spiders can distinguish between conspecifics on the basis of their appearance.
Strengths:
The study presents two experiments. The second set of data recapitulates the findings of the first experiment with an independent set of spiders, highlighting the strength of the results. The study also uses a highly quantitative approach to measuring relative interest between pairs of spiders based on their distance.
Weaknesses:
The study design is overly complicated, missing key controls, and the data presented in the figures are not clearly connected to the study. The discussion is challenging to understand and appears to make unsupported conclusions.
(1) Study design: The study design is rather complicated and as a result, it is difficult to interpret the results. The spiders are presented with the same individual twice in a row, called a habituation trial. Then a new individual is presented twice in a row. The first of these is a dishabituation trial and the second is another habituation trial (but now habituating to a second individual). This is done with three pairings and then this entire structure is repeated over three sessions. The data appear to show the strong effects of differences between habituation and dishabituation trials in the first session. The decrease in differential behavior between the so-called habituation and dishabituation trials in sessions 2 and 3 is explained as a consequence of the spiders beginning to habituate in general to all of the individuals. The claim that the spiders remember specific individuals is somewhat undercut because all of the 'dishabituation' trials in session 2 are toward spiders they already met for 14 minutes previously but seemingly do not remember in session 2. In session 3 it is ambiguous what is happening because the spiders no longer differentiate between the trial types. This could be due to fatigue or familiarity. A second experiment is done to show that introducing a totally novel individual, recovers a large dishabituation response, suggesting that the lack of differences between 'habituation' and 'dishabituation' trials in session 3 is the result of general habituation to all of the spiders in the session rather than fatigue. As mentioned before, these data do support the claim that spiders differentiate among individuals.
The data from session 1 are easy to interpret. The data from sessions 2 and 3 are harder to understand, but these are the trials in which they meet an individual again after a substantial period of separation. Other studies looking at recognition in ants and wasps (cited by the authors) have done a 4 trial design in which focal animal A meets B in the first trial, then meets C in the second trial, meets B again in the third trial, and then meets D in the last trial. In that scenario trials 1, 2, and 4 are between unfamiliar individuals and trial 3 is between potentially familiar individuals. In both the ants and wasps, high aggression is seen in species with and without recognition on trial 1, with low aggression specifically for trials with familiar individuals in species with recognition. Across different tests, species or populations that lack recognition have shown a general reduction in aggression towards all individuals that become progressively less aggressive over time (reminiscent of the session 2 and 3 data) while others have maintained modest levels of aggression across all individuals. The 4 session design used in those other studies provides an unambiguous interpretation of the data while controlling for 'fatigue'. That all trials in sessions 2 and 3 are always with familiar individuals makes it challenging to understand how much the spiders are habituating to each other versus having some kind of associative learning of individual identity and behavior.
The data presentation is also very complicated. How is it the case that a negative proportion of time is spent? The methods reveal that this metric is derived by comparing the time individuals spent in each region relative to the previous time they saw that individual. At the very least, data showing the distribution of distances from the wall would be much easier to interpret for the reader.
(2) "Long-term social memory": It is not entirely clear what is meant by the authors when they say 'long-term social memory', though typically long-term memory refers to a form of a memory that requires protein synthesis. While the precise timing of memory formation varies across species and contexts, a general rule is that long-term memory should last for > 24 hours (e.g., Dreier et al 2007 Biol Letters). The longest time that spiders are apart in this trial setup is something like an hour. There is no basis to claim that spiders have long-term social memory as they are never asked to remember anyone after a long time apart. The odd phrasing of the 'long-term dishabutation' trial makes it seem that it is testing a long-term memory, but it is not. The spiders have never met. The fact that they are very habituated to one set of stimuli and then respond to a new stimulus is not evidence of long-term memory. To clearly test memory (which is the part really lacking from the design), the authors would need to show that spiders - upon the first instance of re-encountering a previously encountered individual are already 'habituated' to them but not to some other individuals. The current data suggest this may be the case, but it is just very hard to interpret given the design does not directly test the memory of individuals in a clear and unambiguous manner.
(3) Lack of a functional explanation and the emphasis on 'asociality': It is entirely plausible that recognition is a pleitropic byproduct of the overall visual cognition abilities in the spiders. However, the discussion that discounts territoriality as a potential explanation is not well laid out. First, many species that are 'asocial' nevertheless defend territories. It is perhaps best to say such species are not group living, but they have social lives because they encounter conspecifics and need to interact with them. Indeed, there are many examples of solitary living species that show the dear enemy effect, a form of individual recognition, towards familiar territorial neighbors. The authors in this case note that territorial competition is mediated by the size or color of the chelicerae (seemingly a trait that could be used to distinguish among individuals). Apparently, because previous work has suggested that territorial disputes can be mediated by a trait in the absence of familiarity has led them to discount the possibility that keeping track of the local neighbors in a potentially cannibalistic species could be a sufficient functional reason. In any event, the current evidence presented certainly does not warrant discounting that hypothesis.
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Reviewer #2 (Public Review):
Summary:
In this manuscript, the authors investigated whether a salticid spider, Phidippus regius, recognizes other individuals of the same species. The authors placed each spider inside a container from which it could see another spider for 7 minutes, before having its view of the other spider occluded by an opaque barrier for 3 minutes. The spider was then either presented with the same individual again (habituation trial) or a different individual (dishabituation trial). The authors recorded the distance between the two spiders during each trial. In habituation trials, the spiders were predicted to spend more time further away from each other and, in dishabituation trials, the spiders were predicted to spend more time closer to each other. The results followed these predictions, and the authors then considered whether the spiders in habituation trials were generally fatigued instead of being habituated to the appearance of the other spider, which may have explained why they spent less time near the other individual. The authors presented the spiders with a different (novel) individual after a longer period of time (which they considered to be a long-term dishabituation trial), and found that the spiders switched to spending more time closer to the other individual again during this trial. This suggested that the spiders had recognized and had habituated to the individual that they had seen before and that they became dishabituated when they encountered a different individual.
Strengths:
It is interesting to consider individual recognition by Phidippus regius. Other work on individual recognition by an invertebrate has been, for instance, known for a species of social wasp, but Phidippus regius is a different animal. Importantly and more specifically, P. regius is a salticid spider, and these spiders are known to have exceptional eyesight for animals of their size, potentially making them especially suitable for studies on individual recognition. In the current study, the results from experiments were consistent with the authors' predictions, suggesting that the spiders were recognizing each other by being habituated to individuals they had encountered before and by being dishabituated to individuals they had not encountered before. This is a good start in considering individual recognition by this species.
Weaknesses:
The experiments in this manuscript (habituation/dishabituation trials) are a good start for considering whether individuals of a salticid species recognize each other. I am left wondering, however, what features the spiders were specifically paying attention to when recognizing each other. The authors cited Sheehan and Tibbetts (2010) who stated that "Individual recognition requires individuals to uniquely identify their social partners based on phenotypic variation." Also, recognition was considered in a paper on another salticid by Tedore and Johnsen (2013).
Tedore, C., & Johnsen, S. (2013). Pheromones exert top-down effects on visual recognition in the jumping spider Lyssomanes viridis. The Journal of Experimental Biology, 216, 1744-1756. doi: 10.1242/jeb.071118
In this elegant study, the authors presented spiders with manipulated images to find out what features matter to these spiders when recognizing individuals.
Part of the problem with using two living individuals in experiments is that the behavior of one individual can influence the behavior of the other, and this can bias the results. However, this issue can be readily avoided because salticids are well known, for example, to be highly responsive to lures (e.g. dead prey glued in lifelike posture onto cork disks) and to computer animation. These methods have already been successful and helpful for standardizing the different stimuli presented during many different experiments for many different salticid spiders, and they would be helpful for better understanding how Phidippus regius might recognize another individual on the basis of phenotypic variation. There are all sorts of ways in which a salticid might recognize another individual. Differences in face or body structure, or body size, or all of these, might have an important role in recognition, but we won't know what these are using the current methods alone. Also, I didn't see any details about whether body size was standardized in the current manuscript.
For another perspective, my thoughts turn to a paper by Cross et al.
Cross, F. R., Jackson, R. R., & Taylor, L. A. (2020). Influence of seeing a red face during the male-male encounters of mosquito-specialist spiders. Learning & Behavior, 48, 104-112. doi: 10.3758/s13420-020-00411-y
These authors found that males of Evarcha culicivora, another salticid species that is known to have a red face, become less responsive to their own mirror images after having their faces painted with black eyeliner than if their faces remained red. In all instances, the spiders only saw their own mirror images and never another spider, and these results cannot be interpreted on the basis of habituation/dishabituation because the spiders were not responding differently when they simply saw their mirror image again. Instead, it was specifically the change to the spider's face which resulted in a change of behavior. The findings from this paper and from Tedore and Johnsen can help give us additional perspectives that the authors might like to consider. On the whole, I would like the authors to further consider the features that P. regius might use to discern and recognize another individual.
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Reviewer #3 (Public Review):
Summary:
Jumping spiders (family Salticidae) have extraordinarily good eyesight, but little is known about how sensitive these small animals might be to the identity of other individuals that they see. Here, experiments were carried out using Phidippus regius, a salticid spider from North America. There were three steps in the experiments; first, a spider could see another spider; then its view of the other spider was blocked; and then either the same or a different individual spider came into view. Whether it was the same or a different individual that came into view in the third step had a significant effect on how close together or far apart the spiders positioned themselves. It has been demonstrated before that salticids can discriminate between familiar and unfamiliar individuals while relying on chemical cues, but this new research on P. regius provides the first experimental evidence that a spider can discriminate by sight between familiar and unfamiliar individuals.
Clark RJ, Jackson RR (1995) Araneophagic jumping spiders discriminate between the draglines of familiar and unfamiliar conspecifics. Ethology, Ecology and Evolution 7:185-190
Strengths:
This work is a useful step toward a fuller understanding of the perceptual and cognitive capacities of spiders and other animals with small nervous systems. By providing experimental evidence for a conclusion that a spider can, by sight, discriminate between familiar and unfamiliar individuals, this research will be an important milestone. We can anticipate a substantial influence on future research.
Weaknesses:
(1) The conclusions should be stated more carefully.
(2) It is not clearly the case that the experimental methods are based on 'habituation (learning to ignore; learning not to respond). Saying 'habituation' seems to imply that certain distances are instances of responding and other distances are instances of not responding but, as a reasonable alternative, we might call distance in all instances a response. However, whether all distances are responses or not is a distracting issue because being based on habituation is not a necessity.
(3) Besides data related to distances, other data might have been useful. For example, salticids are especially well known for the way they communicate using distinctive visual displays and, unlike distance, displaying is a discrete, unambiguous response.
(4) Methods more aligned with salticids having extraordinarily good eyesight would be useful. For example, with salticids, standardising and manipulating stimuli in experiments can be achieved by using mounts, video playback, and computer-generated animation.
(5) An asocial-versus-social distinction is too imprecise, and it may have been emphasised too much. With P. regius, irrespective of whether we use the label asocial or social, the important question pertains to the frequency of encounters between the same individuals and the consequences of these encounters.
(6) Hypotheses related to not-so-strictly adaptive factors are discussed and these hypotheses are interesting, but these considerations are not necessarily incompatible with more strictly adaptive influences being relevant as well.
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Reviewer #1 (Public Review):
Summary:
The authors aimed to develop a mean-field model that captures the key aspects of activity in the striatal microcircuit of the basal ganglia. They start from a spiking network of individual neuron models tuned to fit striatal data. They show that an existing mean-field framework matches the output firing rates generated by the spiking network both in static conditions and when the network is subject to perfectly periodic drive. They introduce a very simplified representation of dopaminergic cortico-striatal plasticity and show that simulated dopamine exposure makes model firing rates go up or down, in a way that matches the design of the model. Finally, they aim to test the performance of the model in a reinforcement learning scenario, with two very simplified channels corresponding to the selection between two actions. Overall, I do not find that this work will be useful for the field or provide novel insights.
Strengths:
The mean-field model dynamics match well with the spiking network dynamics in all scenarios shown. The authors also introduce a dopamine-dependent synaptic plasticity rule in the context of their reinforcement learning task, which can nicely capture the appropriate potentiation or depression of corticostriatal synapses when dopamine levels change.
Weaknesses:
From the title onwards, the authors refer to a "multiscale" model. They do not, in fact, work with a multiscale model; rather, they fit a spiking model to baseline data and then fit a mean-field model to the spiking model. The idea is then to use the mean-field model for subsequent simulations.
The mean-field modeling framework that is used was already introduced previously by the authors, so that is not a novel aspect of this work in itself. The model includes an adaptation variable for each population in the network. Mean-field models with adaptation already exist, and there is no discussion of why this new framework would be preferable to those. Moreover, as presented, the mean-field model is not a closed system. It includes a variable w (in equation 7) that is never defined.
Overall, the paper shows that a mean-field model behaves similarly to a spiking model in several scenarios. A much stronger result would be to show that the mean-field model captures the activity of neurons recorded experimentally. The spiking model is supposedly fit to data from recordings in some sort of baseline conditions initially, but the quality of this fit is not adequately demonstrated; the authors just show a cursory comparison of data from a single dSPN neuron with the activity of a single model dSPN, for one set of parameters.
The authors purport to test their model via its response to "the main brain rhythms observed experimentally". In reality, this test consists of driving the model with periodic input signals. This is far too simplistic to achieve the authors' goals in this part of the work.
The work also presents model responses to simple simulations of dopamine currents, treated as negative or positive inputs to different model striatal populations. These are implemented as changes in glutamate conductance and possibly in an additional depolarizing/hyperpolarizing current, so the results that are shown are guaranteed to occur by the direct design of the simulation experiment; nothing new is learned from this. The consideration of dopamine also points out that the model is apparently designed and fit in a way that does not explicitly include dopamine, even though the fitting is done to control (i.e., with-dopamine) data, so it's not clear how this modeling framework should be adapted for dopamine-depleted scenarios.
For the reinforcement learning scenario, the model network considered is extremely simplified. Moreover, the behavior generated is unrealistic, with action two selected several times in succession independent of reward outcomes and then an instant change to a pattern of perfectly alternating selection of action 1 and action 2.
Finally, various aspects of the paper are sloppily written. The Discussion section is especially disappointing, because it is almost entirely a summary of the results of the paper, without an actual discussion of their deeper implications, connections to the existing literature, predictions that emerge, caveats or limitations of the current work, and natural directions for future study, as one would expect from a usual discussion section.
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Reviewer #2 (Public Review):
Summary:
The present article by Tesler et al proposes a 3-population model of the striatum input-output function including the direct pathway (D1) striatal projection neurons (dSPNs), the indirect pathway (D2) striatal projection neurons (iSPNs), and the fast-spiking striatal interneurons. The authors derive a mean-field version of the model where the firing rate of each population follows the transfer function obtained from a spiking (AdEx) neuron model for each cell population. They report the response of the mean-field circuit to oscillatory inputs from the cortex, the effect of dopamine on dSPNs and iSPNs, and how a simple reinforcement learning rule at cortico-striatal synapses would adapt the model's output in the face of 2 distinct inputs.
Strengths:
The model is simple and easy to understand.
Weaknesses:
Feedforward inhibition from FSI and interconnections between dSPNs and iSPNs does not seem to have any significant impact on the input-output response of dSPNs and iSPNs to cortical inputs. Therefore, all of the results shown can be derived relatively easily from the basic knowledge we have about mean-field neuronal models and their responses to external inputs: all populations have an output that linearly follows the input. Concerning the reinforcement learning paradigm, showing that 2 distinct inputs can be associated with opposite outputs based on a tri-partite synaptic learning rule does not appear new either. As it is, it's unclear to me how this model contributes to new knowledge concerning striatal neuronal activity. Moreover, the assumptions made concerning the effect of dopamine and the synaptic plasticity rules appear rather simplistic and relatively outdated.
Many of the goals set in the introduction do not appear met:
"understanding and modelling the complex dynamics and functions of the striatum constitutes a very relevant and challenging task".<br /> I'm not sure if the authors aim to understand and model the complex dynamics of the striatum here: there are no complex dynamics that are revealed or explained in the model, as the dSPNs and iSPNs mainly appear to have a linear relationship to their inputs (with added noise) in 3 for example. I did not find any non-trivial dynamics highlighted in the presentation of the results either.
"modelling and studying the functions of the striatum and its associated neuronal dynamics requires to investigate these cellular/microcircuits mechanisms, and how the small-scale mechanisms affect large-scale behavior"<br /> I also did not find a statement about the effect of cellular/microcircuit mechanisms on behavior or large-scale activity in the results or discussion. The effects of micro-circuits are rather transparent as dSPNs and iSPNs do not seem to differ from feedforward responses to cortical inputs.
"existing mean-fields are based on generic models (sometimes inspired by cortical circuits) [7, 8], which do not consider the rich and specific cellular and synaptic variability observed along brain regions."<br /> The authors argue here that specific input-output relationships of striatal neurons may contribute to the circuit dynamics. However, the input-output they derive from a spiking neuron model (AdEx) in Figure 2, are very typical IF curves used in most mean-field models. Apart from a slight saturation effect at large rates (which is incorporated in many mean-field models and may not even be relevant here given the max firing of these cells), the I-F curve looks exactly like what is expected from the most basic rate model neuron with a rectifying transfer function in the presence of synaptic noise. What cellular or synaptic properties would the authors like to highlight here? Linking to molecular and cellular parameters, as advertised in the intro, seems much beyond the current achievements of the present model.
"This approach permits an efficient transition between scales and, furthermore, it allows to explore the effects of cellular parameters at the network level, as we will show for the case of dopaminergic effects in the striatum."<br /> If the authors mean the excitation of D1 SPNS and the inhibition of D2 SPNs by dopamine, this statement seems slightly oversold. It's very well known that dopaminergic effects cannot simply be resumed by a change in excitability as it acts on non-linear currents and complex synaptic parameters. They model it as follows: "To model these effects of dopamine in dSPN cells we will assume the increase of excitability due to D1 activation in dPSNs can be described as an increase in the glutamatergic conductance (Qe in our model) together with the action of a depolarizing current" Which basically means an additional excitatory input and a depolarizing current. The expected effect on the firing rate of these 2 effects is rather simple and does not require circuit modelling I believe.
This effect of dopamine is referred to in the discussion as: "This analysis allowed us to show how modifications at the cellular level can be incorporated within the mean-field model which can in turn predict and capture the emergent changes at the network level generated by them, and in addition has provided further validation to our model."<br /> Again, I don't see any emergent property or model validation here. Maybe the authors can be a bit more precise about what emergent property they refer to.
"In addition it illustrates how changes at the cellular level can lead to emerging effects at the network level, which can be captured by the mean-field model"<br /> I did not find any description of 'emerging effects at the network level" in the results or discussion. Maybe the authors could elaborate on what they mean here.
"shows the capabilities of the model to reproduce specific brain functions"<br /> The capacity of a network to associate stim A to a positive output and stim B to a negative one through reward-driven synaptic plasticity is rather well described and is a bit far from 'specific brain functions'. Concerning the discussion, it highlights how the model 'could be useful' rather than highlighting any strength of the model or relation to existing work. In particular, the (large) literature on circuit modelling in the striatum and BG circuits is not cited at all beyond self-citations, except in one book chapter (Houk et al, 1995) and one paper (Bogacz, 2020).
"The RL model proposed can very easily be improved to capture more biologically complex scenarios"<br /> Why did the authors not implement such an 'easy' improvement?
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Reviewer #2 (Public Review):
Summary:
In the manuscript "Metabolic heterogeneity of colorectal cancer as a prognostic factor: insights gained from fluorescence lifetime imaging" by Komarova et al., the authors used fluorescence lifetime imaging and quantitative analysis to assess the metabolic heterogeneity of colorectal cancer. Generally, this work is logically well-designed, including in vitro and in vivo animal models and ex vivo patient samples. Although the key parameter (BI index) used in this study was already published by this group, it was shown that heterogeneity of patients' samples had associations with clinical characteristics of tumors. Additional samples from 8 patients were added to the data pool during the revision process, which is helpful and important for the conclusions that the authors are trying to draw. Overall, the revisions that the authors have made greatly strengthen this study.
Strengths:
(1) Solid experiments are performed and well-organized, including in vitro and in vivo animal models and ex vivo patient samples;
(2) Attempt and efforts to build the association between the metabolic heterogeneity and prognosis for colorectal cancer.
Weaknesses:
(1) Although additional data acquired from 8 patients were collected, maybe more patients should be involved in the future for reliable diagnosis and prognosis.
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Reviewer #1 (Public Review):
Summary:
In this study, Komarova et al. investigate the clinical prognostic ability of cell-level metabolic heterogeneity quantified via the fluorescence lifetime characteristics of NAD(P)H. Fluorescence lifetime imaging microscopy (FLIM) has been studied as a minimally invasive approach to measure cellular metabolism in live cell cultures, organoids, and animal models. Its clinical translation is spearheaded though macroscopic implementation approaches that are capable of large sampling areas and enable access to otherwise constrained spaces but lack cellular resolution for a one-to-one transition with traditional microscopy approaches, making the interpretation of the results a complicated task. The merit of this study primarily lies in its design by analyzing with the same instrumentation and approach colorectal samples in different research scenarios, namely in vitro cells, in vivo animal xenografts, and ex vivo tumor tissue from human patients. These conform to a valuable dataset to explore the translational interpretation hurdles with samples of increasing levels of complexity. For human samples, which exhibited the highest degree of heterogeneity from the experiments presented, the study specifically investigates the prediction ability of NAD(P)H fluorescence metrics for the binary classification of tumors of low and advanced stage, with and without metastasis, and low and high grade. They find that NAD(P)H fluorescence properties have a strong potential to distinguish between high- and low-grade tumors and a moderate ability to distinguish advanced stage tumors from low stage tumors. This study provides valuable results contributing to the deployment of minimally invasive optical imaging techniques to quantify tumor properties and potentially migrating into tools for human tumor characterization and clinical diagnosis.
Strengths:
The investigation of colorectal samples under multiple imaging scenarios with the same instrument and approach conforms to a valuable dataset that can facilitate interpretation of results across the spectrum of sample complexity.
The manuscript provides a strong discussion reviewing studies that investigated cellular metabolism with FLIM and the metabolic heterogeneity of colorectal cancer in general.
The authors do a thorough acknowledgement of the experimental limitations of investigating human samples ex vivo, and the analytical limitation of manual segmentation, for which they provide a path forward for higher throughput analysis.
Weaknesses:
NAD(P)H fluorescence provides a partial picture of the cell/tissue metabolic characteristics. Including fluorescence from flavins would comprise a more compelling dataset. These additional data should enable the quantification of redox metrics, which could positively contribute to the prognosis potential of metabolic heterogeneity. The authors did attempt to incorporate flavin fluorescence, unfortunately they could not find strong enough signal to proceed with the analysis.
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Reviewer #1 (Public Review):
Summary:
Starting from an unbiased search for somatic mutations (from COSMIC) likely disrupting binding of clinically approved antibodies the authors focus on mutations known to disrupt binding between two ERBB2 mutations and Pertuzamab. They use a combined computational and experimental strategy to nominate position which when mutated could result in restoring the therapeutic activity of the antibody. Using in vitro assays the authors confirm that the engineered antibody binds to the mutant ERBB2 and prevents ERBB3 phosphorylation
Strengths:
(1) In my assessment, the data sufficiently demonstrates that a modified version of Pertuzamab can bind both the wild-type and S310 mutant forms of ERBB2.
(2) The engineering strategy employed is rational and effectively combines computational and experimental techniques.
(3) Given the clinical activity of HER2-targeting ADCs, antibodies unaffected by ERBB2 mutations would be desired
Weaknesses:
(1) There is no data showing that the engineered antibody is equally specific as Pertuzamab i.e. that it does not bind to other (non-ERBB2) proteins.
(2) There is no data showing that the engineered antibody has the desired pharmacokinetics/pharmacodynamics properties or efficacy in vivo.
(3) Computational approaches are only used to design a phage-screen library, but not used to prioritize mutations that are likely to improve binding (e.g. based on predicted impact on the stability of the interaction). A demonstration how computational pre-screening or lead optimization can improve the time-intensive process would be a welcome advance.
Comments on revised version:
I have nothing to add beyond my first review, because no substantial changes, additional experiments and/or data, have been made to the manuscript.
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Reviewer #2 (Public Review):
Summary:
Peled et al identified HER2 mutations in connection with resistance to the anti-HER2 antibody Pertuzumab-mediated therapy. After constructing a yeast display library of Pertuzumab variants with 3.86×10^11 sequences for targeted screening of variant combinations in chosen 6 out of 14 residues, the authors performed experimental screening to obtain the clones that bind to HER2 WT and/or mutants (S310Y and S310F), and then combined new variations to obtain antibodies with a broad spectrum binding to both WT and two HER2 mutants. These are interesting studies of clinical impact and translational potential.
Strengths:
(1) Deep computational analyses of large datasets of clinical data provide useful information about HER2 mutations and their potential relevance to antibody therapy resistance.
(2) There is valuable information analyzing the residues within or near the interface between the antigen HER2 and the Pertuzumab antibody (heavy chain).<br /> The experimental antibody library screening obtained 90+ clones from 3.86×10^11 sequences for further functional validation.
Weaknesses:
(1) There is lack of assessment for antibody variant functions in cancer cell phenotypes in vitro (proliferation, cell death, motility) or in vivo (tumor growth and animal survival). The only assay was the western blotting of phosphopho-HER3 in Figure 4. However, HER2 levels and phosphor-HER2 were not analyzed.
(2) There is misleading impression from the title of computational engineering of a therapeutic antibody and the statement in the abstract "we designed a multi-specific version of Pertuzumab that retains original function while also bindings these HER2 variants" for a few reasons:
a. The primary method used for variant antibody identification for HER2 mutant binding is rather traditional experimental screening based on yeast display instead of computational design of a multi-specific version of Pertuzumab.
b. There is insufficient or lack of computational power in the antibody design or prioritization in choosing variant residues for the library construction of 3.86×1011 sequences. It seems random combinations from 6 residues out of 4 groups with 20 amino acid options.<br /> c. The final version of tri-binding variant is a combination of screened antibody clones instead of computation design from scratch.<br /> d. There is incomplete experimental evidence about the therapeutic values of newly obtained antibody clones.
Comments on revised version:
Two major comments remain and have not been well addressed. Comment 1 is expecting any cellular phenotypic analysis if not in vivo. Comment 2 requires some modifications to avoid overstating.
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Reviewer #2 (Public Review):
This work makes substantial progress towards understanding physical aspects of formation locomotion, notably the hydrodynamic stability of groups of flappers and the modifications to energy costs associated with flow interactions.
Major strengths pertain to the fact that this topic is timely, interesting and complex, and the authors have advanced the understanding through their characterizations.
The weaknesses may relate to the many idealizations employed in the simulations and models, which may raise questions about how to interpret their results and whether the outcomes hold generally. But given the complexity of the problem, simplifications are necessary. The authors have certainly provided a clear presentation with appropriate details and caveats that will help the reader extract the main messages and form their own conclusions.
Overall, the work is a positive addition to the growing set of studies into schooling, flocking and related problems where unsteady flow interactions lead to interesting collective effects.
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Reviewer #1 (Public Review):
Summary:<br /> The study seeks to establish accurate computational models to explore the role of hydrodynamic interactions on energy savings and spatial patterns in fish schools. Specifically, the authors consider a system of (one degree-of-freedom) flapping airfoils that passively position themselves with respect to the streamwise direction, while oscillating at the same frequency and amplitude, with a given phase lag and at a constant cross-stream distance. By parametrically varying the phase lag and the cross-stream distance, they systematically explore the stability and energy costs of emergent configurations. Computational findings are leveraged to distill insights into universal relationships and clarify the role of the wake of the leading foil.
Strengths:<br /> (1) The use of multiple computational models (computational fluid dynamics, CFD, for full Navier-Stokes equations and computationally-efficient inviscid vortex sheet, VS, model) offers an extra degree of reliability of the observed findings and backing to the use of simplified models for future research in more complex settings.
(2) The systematic assessment of the stability and energy savings in multiple configurations of pairs and larger ensembles of flapping foils is an important addition to the literature.
(3) The discovery of a linear phase-distance relationship in the formation attained by pairs of flapping foils is a significant contribution, which helps compare different experimental observations in the literature.
(4) The observation of a critical size effect for in-line formations, above which cohesion and energetic benefits are lost at once, is a new discovery to the field.
Weaknesses:<br /> (1) The extent to which observations on one-degree-of-freedom flapping foils could translate to real fish schools is presently unclear, so that some of the conclusions on live fish schools are likely to be overstated and would benefit from some more biological framing.
(2) The analysis of non-reciprocal coupling is not as novel as the rest of the study and potentially not as convincing due to the chosen linear metric of interaction (that is, the flow agreement).
Overall, this is a rigorous effort on a critical topic: findings of the research can offer important insight into the hydrodynamics of fish schooling, stimulating interdisciplinary research at the interface of computational fluid mechanics and biology.
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How different is Bob Doto's A System for Writing from Antinet Zettelkasten?
Doto's book is far more focused, well-written, and actually edited. Scheper's less well written and in need of heavy editing. Save yourself the extra 400 pages and spend that time practicing the craft instead.
If you were starting from scratch without any knowledge of the area, I would highly recommend Doto's work, possibly mention Ahrens in passing, and not suffer anyone to mention Scheper's book. If you're an academic, I would recommend Umberto Eco or perhaps if a historian, one of the many books on historical method like Barzun, Gottschalk, or Goutor.
As background, both Scheper and Doto sent me pre-publication drafts of their work-in-progress to read. I've also read the majority of other books, papers, articles, and works in the space over the past 150+ years including nearly 100% of the references footnoted the two texts referenced. See also: https://boffosocko.com/research/zettelkasten-commonplace-books-and-note-taking-collection/
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Summary:
This was a well-executed and well-written paper. The authors have provided important new datasets that expand on previous investigations substantially. The discovery that changes in diet are not so closely correlated with the presence of alkaloids (based on the expanded sampling of non-defended species) is important, in my opinion.
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Provision of several new expanded datasets using cutting edge technology and sampling a wide range of species that had not been sampled previously. A conceptually important paper that provides evidence for the importance of intermediate stages in the evolution of chemical defense and aposematism.
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There were some aspects of the paper that I thought could be revised. One thing I was struck by is the lack of discussion of the potentially negative effects of toxin accumulation, and how this might play out in terms of different levels of toxicity in different species. Further, are there aspects of ecology or evolutionary history that might make some species less vulnerable to the accumulation of toxins than others? This could be another factor that strongly influences the ultimate trajectory of a species in terms of being well-defended. I think the authors did a good job in terms of describing mechanistic factors that could affect toxicity (e.g. potential molecular mechanisms) but did not make much of an attempt to describe potential ecological factors that could impact trajectories of the evolution of toxicity. This may have been done on purpose (to avoid being too speculative), but I think it would be worth some consideration.
In the discussion, the authors make the claim that poison frogs don't (seem to) suffer from eating alkaloids. I don't think this claim has been properly tested (the cited references don't adequately address it). To do so would require an experimental approach, ideally obtained data on both lifespan and lifetime reproductive success.
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Reviewer #1 (Public Review):
This is a very relevant study, clearly with the potential of having a high impact on future research on the evolution of chemical defense mechanisms in animals. The authors present a substantial number of new and surprising experimental results, i.e., the presence in low quantities of alkaloids in amphibians previously deemed to lack these toxins. These data are then combined with literature data to weave the importance of passive accumulation mechanisms into a 4-phases scenario of the evolution of chemical defense in alkaloid-containing poison frogs.
In general, the new data presented in the manuscript are of high quality and high scientific interest, the suggested scenario compelling, and the discussion thorough. Also, the manuscript has been carefully prepared with a high quality of illustrations and very few typos in the text. Understanding that the majority of dendrobatid frogs, including species considered undefended, can contain low quantities of alkaloids in their skin provides an entirely new perspective to our understanding of how the amazing specializations of poison frogs evolved. Although only a few non-dendrobatids were included in the GCMS alkaloid screening, some of these also included minor quantities of alkaloids, and the capacity of passive alkaloid accumulation may therefore characterize numerous other frog clades, or even amphibians in general.
While the overall quality of the work is exceptional, major changes in the structure of the submitted manuscript are necessary to make it easier for readers to disentangle scope, hypotheses, evidence and newly developed theories.
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Mutational analysis of diffuse midline glioma (DMG) found that ACVR1 mutations, which up-regulate BMP signaling pathway are found in most H3.1K27M, but not H3.3K27M DMG cases. In this manuscript, Huchede et al attempted to determine whether the BMP signaling pathway has any role in H3.3K27M DMG tumors. They found that the BMP signaling is activated to a similar level in H3.3K27M DMG cells with wild type ACVR1 compared to ACVR1 DMG cells, likely due to the expression of BMP7 or BMP2. They went on to test whether cells treated with BMP7 or BMP2 treatments affected the gene expression and cell fitness of tumor cells with H3.3K27M mutation. They concluded that BMP2/7 synergizes with H3.3K27M to induce a transcriptomic rewiring associated with a quiescent but invasive cell state. The major issue for this conclusion is that the authors did not use the right models/controls to obtain results to support this conclusion as detailed below. Therefore, in order to strengthen the conclusion, the authors need to address the major concerns below.
Strength:<br /> Address an important question in DMG field.
Major concerns/weakness:<br /> (1) All the results in Fig. 2 utilized two glioma lines SF188 and Res259. The authors should repeat all these experiments in a couple of H3.3K27M DMG lines by deleting H3.3K27M mutation first.<br /> (2) Fig. 3. The experiments of BMP2 treatment should be repeated in another H3.3K27M DMG line using H3.1K27M ACVR1 mutant tumor lines as controls.
Minor concerns<br /> Fig.2A. BMP2 expression increased in H3.3K27M SF188 cells. Therefore, the statement "whereas BMP2 and BMP4 expressions are not significantly modified (Figure 2A and Figure 2-figure supplement A-B)"is not accurate
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I had three issues listed above on the initial version. The authors did not address my major concerns of #1 and #2, which are re-listed above.
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The authors developed an extension to the pairwise sequentially Markov coalescent model that allows to simultaneously analyze multiple types of polymorphism data. In this paper, they focus on SNPs and DNA methylation data. Since methylation markers mutate at a much faster rate than SNPs, this potentially gives the method better power to infer size history in the recent past. Additionally, they explored a model where there are both local and regional epimutational processes.
Integrating additional types of heritable markers into SMC is a nice idea which I like in principle. However, a major caveat to this approach seems to be a strong dependence on knowing the epimutation rate. In Fig. 6 it is seen that, when the epimutation rate is known, inferences do indeed look better; but this is not necessarily true when the rate is not known. (See also major comment #1 below about the interpretation of these plots.) A roughly similar pattern emerges in Supp. Figs. 4-7; in general, results when the rates have to be estimated don't seem that much better than when focusing on SNPs alone. This carries over to the real data analysis too: the interpretation in Fig. 7 appears to hinge on whether the rates are known or estimated, and the estimated rates differ by a large amount from earlier published ones.
Overall, this is an interesting research direction, and I think the method may hold more promise as we get more and better epigenetic data, and in particular better knowledge of the epigenetic mutational process.
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A limitation in using SNPs to understand recent histories of genomes is their low mutation frequency. Tellier et al. explore the possibility of adding hypermutable markers to SNP based methods for better resolution over short time frames. In particular, they hypothesize that epimutations (CG methylation and demethylation) could provide a useful marker for this purpose. Individual CGs in Arabidopsis tends to be either close to 100% methylated or close to 0%, and are inherited stably enough across generations that they can be treated as genetic markers. Small regions containing multiple CGs can also be treated as genetic markers based on their cumulative methylation level. In this manuscript, Tellier et al develop computational methods to use CG methylation as a hypermutable genetic marker and test them on theoretical and real data sets. They do this both for individual CGs and small regions. My review is limited to the simple question of whether using CG methylation for this purpose makes sense at a conceptual level, not at the level of evaluating specific details of the methods. I have a small concern in that it is not clear that CG methylation measurements are nearly as binary in other plants and other eukaryotes as they are in Arabidopsis. However, I see no reason why the concept of this work is not conceptually sound. Especially in the future as new sequencing technologies provide both base calling and methylating calling capabilities, using CG methylation in addition to SNPs could become a useful and feasible tool for population genetics in situations where SNPs are insufficient.
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Clostridium thermocellum serves as a model for consolidated bioprocessing (CBP) in lignocellulosic ethanol production. The primary ethanol production pathway involves the enzyme aldehyde-alcohol dehydrogenase (AdhE), which exhibits complex regulation, forming long oligomeric structures known as spirosomes.
The present study describes the cryo-EM structure of C. thermocellum AdhE, resolved at 3.28 Å resolution. By integrating cryo-EM data with molecular dynamics simulations, this study showed that the aldehyde intermediate resides longer in the channel of the extended form, supporting the mechanistic model in which the extended spirosome conformation represents the active form of AdhE.
These findings advance the understanding of the function and regulation of AdhE, a key enzyme involved in the ethanol biosynthesis pathway in Clostridium thermocellum, a model organism for ethanol production in consolidated bioprocessing.
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The manuscript by Ziegler et al, entitled 'Structural characterization and dynamics of AdhE ultrastructure from Clostridium thermocellum: A containment strategy for toxic intermediates?" presents the atomic resolution cryo-EM structure of C. thermocellum AdhE showing that it show dominantly an extended form while E.coli AdhE shows dominantly a compact form. With comparative analysis of their C. thermocellum structure and the previous E.coli AdhE structure, they tried to reveal the mechanism by which C.thermocellum and E.coli show different dominant conformations. In addition, they also analyzed the substrate channel by comparative and computational approaches. Lastly, their computational analysis using CryoDRGN reveals conformational heterogeneity in the sample. Despite this the manuscript is very descriptive and does not provide a mechanistic understanding by which AdhE works, this work will provide structural frame works to further investigate the function and mechanism of AdhE dynamics.
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This manuscript provides the first C. thermocellum (Ct) AdhE structure and comparatively analyzed this structure with E.coli AdhE.
Weaknesses:
This work is very descriptive and does not provide mechanistic understanding of the function and dynamics of AdhE.
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The development of effective computational methods for protein-ligand binding remains an outstanding challenge to the field of drug design. This impressive computational study combines a variety of structure prediction (AlphaFold2) and sampling (RAVE) tools to generate holo-like protein structures of three kinases (DDR1, Abl1, and Src kinases) for binding to type I and type II inhibitors. Of central importance to the work is the conformational state of the Asp-Phy-Gly "DFG motif" where the Asp points inward (DFG-in) in the active state and outward (DFG-out) in the inactive state. The kinases bind to type I or type II inhibitors when in the DFG-in or DFG-out states, respectively.
It is noted that while AlphaFold2 can be effective in generating ligand-free apo protein structures, it is ineffective at generating holo structures appropriate for ligand binding. Starting from the native apo structure, structural fluctuations are necessary to access holo-like structures appropriate for ligand-binding. A variety of methods, including reduced multiple sequence alignment (rMSA), AF2-cluster, and AlphaFlow may be used to create decoy structures. However, those methods can be limited in the diversity of structures generated and lack a physics-based analysis of Boltzmann weight critical to their relative evaluation.
To address this need, the authors combine AlphaFold2 with the Reweighted Autoencoded Variational Bayes for Enhanced Sampling (RAVE) method, to explore metastable states and create a Boltzmann ranking. With that variety of structures in hand, grid-based docking methods Glide and Induced-Fit Docking (IFD) were used to generate protein-ligand (kinase-inhibitor) complexes.
The authors demonstrate that using AlphaFold2 alone, there is a failure to generate DFG-out structures needed for binding to type II inhibitors. By applying the AlphaFold2 with rMSA followed by RAVE (using short MD trajectories, SPIB-based collective variable analysis, and enhanced sampling using umbrella sampling), metastable DFG-out structures with Boltzmann weighting are generated enabling protein-ligand binding. Moreover, the authors found that the successful sampling of DFG-out states for one kinase (DDR1) could be used to model similar states for other proteins (Abl1 and Src kinase). The AF2RAVE approach is shown to result in a set of holo-like protein structures with a 50% rate of docking type II inhibitors.
Overall, this is excellent work and a valuable contribution to the field that demonstrates the strengths and weaknesses of state-of-the-art computational methods for protein-ligand binding. The authors also suggest promising directions for future study, noting that potential enhancements in the workflow may result from the use of binding site prediction models and free energy perturbation calculations.
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Reviewer #2 (Public Review):
This manuscript explores the utility of AlphaFold2 (AF2) and the author's own AF2-RAVE method for drug discovery. As has been observed elsewhere, the predictive power of docking against AF2 structures is quite limited, particularly for proteins like kinases that have non-trivial conformational dynamics. However, using enhanced sampling methods like RAVE to explore beyond AF2 starting structures leads to a significant improvement.
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I'm happy with the changes made.
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Reviewer #3 (Public Review):
In this manuscript, the authors aim to enhance AlphaFold2 for protein conformation-selective drug discovery through the integration of AlphaFold2 and physics-based methods, focusing on improving the accuracy of predicting protein structures ensemble and small molecule binding of metastable protein conformations to facilitate targeted drug design.
The major strength of the paper lies in the methodology, which includes the innovative integration of AlphaFold2 with all-atom enhanced sampling molecular dynamics and induced fit docking to produce protein ensembles with structural diversity. Moreover, the generated structures can be used as reliable crystal-like decoys to enrich metastable conformations of holo-like structures. The authors demonstrate the effectiveness of the proposed approach in producing metastable structures of three different protein kinases and perform docking with their type I and II inhibitors. The paper provides strong evidence supporting the potential impact of this technology in drug discovery. However, limitations may exist in the generalizability of the approach across other structures, especially complex structures such as protein-protein or DNA-protein complexes.
The authors largely achieved their aims by demonstrating that the AF2RAVE-Glide workflow can generate holo-like structure candidates with a 50% successful docking rate for known type II inhibitors. This work is likely to have a significant impact on the field by offering a more precise and efficient method for predicting protein structure ensemble, which is essential for designing targeted drugs. The utility of the integrated AF2RAVE-Glide approach may streamline the drug discovery process, potentially leading to the development of more effective and specific medications for various diseases.
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The revised manuscript looks great to me. I have no further comments.
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The study shows a new mechanism of NFkB-p65 regulation mediated by Vangl2-dependent autophagic targeting. Autophagic regulation of p65 has been reported earlier; this study brings an additional set of molecular players involved in this important regulatory event, which may have implications for chronic and acute inflammatory conditions.
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Vangl2, a core planar cell polarity protein involved in Wnt/PCP signaling, cell proliferation, differentiation, homeostasis, and cell migration. Vangl2 malfunctioning has been linked to various human ailments, including autoimmune and neoplastic disorders. Interestingly, it was shown that Vangl2 interacts with the autophagy regulator p62, and autophagic degradation limits the activity of inflammatory mediators, such as p65/NF-κB. However, the possible role of Vangl2 in inflammation has not been investigated. In this manuscript, Lu et al. describe that Vangl2 expression is upregulated in human sepsis-associated PBMCs and that Vangl2 mitigates experimental sepsis in mice by negatively regulating p65/NF-κB signaling in myeloid cells. Their mechanistic studies further revealed that Vangl2 recruits the E3 ubiquitin ligase PDLIM2 to promote K63-linked poly-ubiquitination of p65. Vangl2 also facilitated the recognition of ubiquitinated p65 by the cargo receptor NDP52. These molecular processes caused selective autophagic degradation of p65. Indeed, abrogation of PDLIM2 or NDP52 functions rescued p65 from autophagic degradation, leading to extended p65/NF-κB activity in myeloid cells. Overall, the manuscript presents convincing evidence for novel Vangl2-mediated control of inflammatory p65/NF-kB activity. The proposed pathway may expand interventional opportunities restraining aberrant p65/NF-kB activity in human ailments.
IKK is known to mediate p65 phosphorylation, which instructs NF-kB transcriptional activity. In this manuscript, Vangl2 deficiency led to an increased accumulation of phosphorylated p65 and IKK also at 30 minutes post-LPS stimulation; however, autophagic degradation of p-p65 may not have been initiated at this early time point. Therefore, this set of data put forward the exciting possibility that Vangl2 could also be regulating the immediate early phase of inflammatory response involving the IKK-p65 axis - a proposition that may be tested in future studies.
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Reviewer #3 (Public Review):
Lu et al. describe Vangl2 as a negative regulator of inflammation in myeloid cells. The primary mechanism appears to be through binding p65 and promoting its degradation, albeit in an unusual autolysosome/autophagy dependent manner. Overall, these findings are novel, valuable and the crosstalk of PCP pathway protein Vangl2 with NF-kappaB is of interest.
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Lu et al. now address all my comments. All data included for the reviewers should be included in the main manuscript or Supplement and should be available to the readers. Please ensure that this criteria is met. I have no further comments.
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The manuscript presents a framework for studying biomechanical principles and their links to morphology and provides interesting insights into a particular question regarding terrestrial locomotion and speed. The goal of the paper is to derive general principals of directed terrestrial locomotion, speed, and symmetry.
Major strengths:
The manuscript is a unique and creative work that explores performance spaces of a complicated question through computational modeling. Overall, the paper is well written and well crafted and was a pleasure to read.
The methods presented here (variable agents used to represent ultra-simplified body configurations that are not inherently constrained) are interesting and there's significant potential in them for a properly constrained question. For the data that is present here their hypotheses (while they can be anticipated from first principles) are very well validated and serve as a robust validation of these expectations and can help.
Of particular interest was the discussion of the transferability of morphologies designed under one system and moving to another. From a deep-time perspective, of particular interest is the transition from subaqueous to terrestrial locomotion which we know was a major earth life transition. The results of this study show that the best suited morphologies for subaqueous movement are ill-suited (from a locomotor speed standpoint at least) to fully terrestrial locomotion which begs the questions on if there are a suite of forms that have balanced performance in both and how that would differ from aquatic morphologies.
Major weaknesses:
(1) There is a major disagreement between target and parameters.
From a biomechanics perspective the target of this study, Directed Locomotion, is a fairly broad behavioral mode. However, what the authors are ultimately evaluating their model organisms on is a single performance parameter (speed, or distance traveled after 30s). Statements such as "bilateral symmetry showed to be a law-like pattern in animal evolution for efficient directed locomotion purposes" (p 12 line 365-366) are problematic for this reason.
Attaining the highest possible speed is a relevant but limited subset of ways one might interpret performance for directed locomotion. Efficiency, power generation, and limb loading/strain are equally relevant components.
The focus on speed coupled with selection for only the highest performing morphologies, rather than setting a minimum performance threshold fundamentally restricts the dynamics of the system in a way that is not representative of their specified target and pulls the simulations toward a specific, anticipatable, result.
Locomotor efficiency is alluded to later in the manuscript as one of the observed outcomes, but speed is not equivalent to locomotor efficiency (in much the same way that it is not the sole metric for describing performance with respect to directed locomotion). Energy/work/power have not been accounted for in the manuscript so this is not a parameter this study weighs in on.
The data and analyses the others present do show an interesting validation of these methods in assessing first order questions relating the shape of a single performance surface to a theoretical morphology, which has significant potential value.
(2) There is significant population and/or sample size and biasing.
Thirty simulations of a population of 101 morphologies seems small for a study of this kind, particularly looking to investigate such a broad question at an abstract level. Particularly when the top 50% of morphologies are chosen to mutate. It would be very easy for artificial biases to rapidly propagate through this system depending on the parameters bounding the formation of the initial generation.
This strong selection choosing the best 50 morphologies and mutating them enforces an aggressive effect that simulates and even more potent phylogenetic inertia than one might anticipate for an actual evolutionary history (it's no surprise then that all of the simulations were able to successfully retrieve a suite of morphotypes that recovered the performance peak for this system within 1500 generations)
Similarly, why is it that a 4^3 voxel limit was chosen? One can imagine that an increase in this voxel limit would allow for the development of more extreme geometries, which might be successful. It is likely that there might be computational resource constraints involved in this, it would be useful for the authors to add additional context here.
Review of resubmission:
I appreciate the clarification of points dealing with the details of computational modeling and methods and clarifications throughout the text.
However, the authors have failed to address the major weaknesses that were previously identified, specifically regarding the broader conclusions of the work, that either 1) the authors need to use an additional metric besides average speed, or 2) the conclusions need to be significantly reigned in to reflect the very narrow nature of the work.
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Reviewer #2 (Public Review):
Summary:<br /> I believe the authors have done a wonderful job at dissecting a very complex topic, starting with basic building blocks of locomotion and introducing a powerful simulation approach to the exploring the landscape of growth and form in intelligent behavior.
Strengths:<br /> This is a very original, timely, and robust piece of work that I believe can inspire further computational studies in evo-devo-etho.
Weaknesses:<br /> More detail on the simulations and also greater clarity regarding the generalizability of their claims would improve the message and further studies.
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This study offers valuable insights into host-virus interactions, emphasizing the adaptability of the immune system. Readers should recognize the significance of MDA5 in potentially replacing RIG-I and the adversarial strategy employed by 5'ppp-RNA SCRV in degrading MDA5 mediated by m6A modification in different species, further indicating that m6A is a conservational process in the antiviral immune response.<br /> However, caution is warranted in extrapolating these findings universally, given the dynamic nature of host-virus dynamics. The study provides a snapshot into the complexity of these interactions, but further research is needed to validate and extend these insights, considering potential variations across viral species and environmental contexts.
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Panel 2N and 2O should have been done with and without SCRV treatment, so that the reader can assess whether SCRV induces additional IFN activation (on top of MDA5 and STING autoactivation). I would recommend the authors include a sentence in the text to explain that ectopic expression of MDA5 or STING (i.e. overexpression from a plasmid) induces autoactivation of these proteins. Therefore, the IFN induction that is seen in panel 2N is likely due to MDA5/STING overexpression. SCRV treatment may further boost IFN induction, but this cannot be assessed without the 'mock' conditions. This information will help the readers to interpret Fig. 2N and 2O correctly.
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In the presence of predators, animals display attenuated foraging responses and increased defensive behaviors that serve to protect them from potential predatory attacks. Previous studies have shown that the basolateral nucleus of the amygdala (BLA) and the periaqueductal gray matter (PAG) are necessary for the acquisition and expression of conditioned fear responses. However, it remains unclear how BLA and PAG neurons respond to predatory threats when animals are foraging for food. To address this question, Kim and colleagues conducted in vivo electrophysiological recordings from BLA and PAG neurons and assessed approach-avoidance responses while rats searched for food in the presence of a robotic predator.
The authors observed that rats exhibited a significant increase in the latency to obtain the food pellets and a reduction in the pellet success rate when the predator robot was activated. A subpopulation of PAG neurons showing an increased firing rate in response to the robot activation didn't change their activity in response to food pellet retrieval during the pre- or post-robot sessions. Optogenetic stimulation of PAG neurons increased the latency to procure the food pellet in a frequency- and intensity-dependent manner, similar to what was observed during the robot test. Combining optogenetics with single-unit recordings, the authors demonstrated that photoactivation of PAG neurons increased the firing rate of 10% of BLA cells. A subsequent behavioral test in 3 of these same rats demonstrated that BLA neurons responsive to PAG stimulation displayed higher firing rates to the robot than BLA neurons nonresponsive to PAG stimulation. Next, because the PAG does not project monosynaptically to the BLA, the authors used a combination of retrograde and anterograde neural tracing to identify possible regions that could convey robot-related information from PAG to the BLA. They observed that neurons in specific areas of the paraventricular nucleus of the thalamus (PVT) that are innervated by PAG fibers contained neurons that were retrogradely labeled by the injection of CTB in the BLA. In addition, PVT neurons showed increased expression of the neural activity marker cFos after the robot test, suggesting that PVT may be a mediator of PAG signals to the BLA.
Overall, the idea that the PAG interacts with the BLA via the midline thalamus during a predator vs. foraging test is new and quite interesting. The authors have used appropriate tools to address their questions. However, there are some major concerns regarding the design of the experiments, the rigor of the histological analyses, the presentation of the results, the interpretation of the findings, and the general discussion that largely reduces the relevance of this study.
The authors have fully addressed all my concerns.
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The authors characterized the activity of the dorsal periaqueductal gray (dPAG) - basolateral amygdala (BLA) circuit. They show that BLA cells that are activated by dPAG stimulation are also more likely to be activated by a robot predator. These same cells are also more likely to display synchronous firing.
The authors also replicate prior results showing that dPAG stimulation evokes fear and the dPAG is activated by a predator.
Lastly, the report performs anatomical tracing to show that the dPAG may act on the BLA via the paraventricular thalamus (PVT). Indeed, the PVT receives dPAG projections and also projects to the BLA. However, the authors do not show if the PVT mediates dPAG to BLA communication with any functional behavioral assay.
The major impact in the field would be to add evidence to their prior work, strengthening the view that the BLA can be downstream of the dPAG.
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Reviewer #3 (Public Review):
In the present study, the authors examined how dPAG neurons respond to predatory threats and how dPAG and BLA communicate threat signals. The authors employed single-unit recording and optogenetics tools to address these issues in an 'approach food-avoid predator' paradigm. They characterized dPAG and BLA neurons responsive to a looming robot predator and found that dPAG opto-stimulation elicited fleeing and increased BLA activity. Importantly, they found that dPAG stimulation produces activity changes in subpopulations of BLA neurons related to predator detection, thus supporting the idea that dPAG conveys innate fear signals to the amygdala. In addition, injections of anterograde and retrograde tracers into the dPAG and BLA, respectively, along with the examination of c-FOS activity in midline thalamic relay stations, suggest that the paraventricular nucleus of the thalamus (PVT) may serve as a mediator of dPAG to BLA neurotransmission. Of relevance, the study helps to validate an important concept that dPAG mediates primal fear emotion and may engage upstream amygdala targets to evoke defensive responses. The series of experiments provides a compelling case for supporting their conclusions. The study brings important concepts revealing dynamics of fear-related circuits particularly attractive to a broad audience, from basic scientists interested in neural circuits to psychiatrists.
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Summary:<br /> The author presents the discovery and characterization of CAPSL as a potential gene linked to Familial Exudative Vitreoretinopathy (FEVR), identifying one nonsense and one missense mutation within CAPSL in two distinct patient families afflicted by FEVR. Cell transfection assays suggest that the missense mutation adversely affects protein levels when overexpressed in cell cultures. Furthermore, conditionally knocking out CAPSL in vascular endothelial cells leads to compromised vascular development. The suppression of CAPSL in human retinal microvascular endothelial cells results in hindered tube formation, a decrease in cell proliferation, and disrupted cell polarity. Additionally, transcriptomic and proteomic profiling of these cells indicates alterations in the MYC pathway.
Strengths:<br /> The study is nicely designed with a combination of in vivo and in vitro approaches, and the experimental results are good quality.
Weaknesses:<br /> My reservations lie with the main assertion that CAPSL is associated with FEVR, as the genetic evidence from human studies appears relatively weak. Further careful examination of human genetics evidence in both patient cohorts and the general population will help to clarify. In light of human genetics, more caution needs to be exercised when interpreting results from mice and cell model and how is it related to the human patient phenotype. Future replication by finding more FEVR patients with a mutation in CAPSL will strengthen the findings.
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Summary:<br /> This work identifies two variants in CAPSL in two generation familial exudative vitreoretinopathy (FEVR) pedigrees, and using a knockout mouse model, they link CAPSL to retinal vascular development and endothelial proliferation through the MYC pathway. Together, these findings suggest that the identified variants may be causative and that CAPSL is a new FEVR-associated gene.
Strengths:<br /> The authors data provides compelling evidence that loss of the poorly understood protein CAPSL can lead to reduced endothelial proliferation in mouse retina and suppression of MYC signaling, consistent with the disease seen in FEVR patients. The paper is clearly written, and the data generally support the author's hypotheses.
Weaknesses:<br /> (1) Both pedigrees described suggest autosomal dominant inheritance in humans, but no phenotype was observed in Capsl heterozygous mice. Additional studies would be needed to determine the cause of this disparity.
(2) Additional discussion of the hypothesized functional mechanism of the p.L83F variant would have improved the manuscript. While the human genetic data is compelling, it remains unclear how this variant may effect CAPSL function. In vitro, p.L83F protein appears to be normally localized within the cell and it is unclear why less mutant protein was detected in transfected cells. Was the modified protein targeted for degradation?
(3) Authors did not describe how the new crispr-generated Capsl-loxp mouse model was screened for potential off-target gene editing, raising the possibility that unrelated confounding mutations may have been introduced.
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Reviewer #3 (Public Review):
Summary:<br /> This manuscript by Liu et al. presents a case that CAPSL mutations are a cause of familial exudative vitreoretinopathy (FEVR). Attention was initially focused on the CAPSL gene from whole exome sequence analysis of two small families. The follow-up analyses included studies in which Capsl was manipulated in endothelial cells of mice and multiple iterations of molecular and cellular analyses. Together, the data show that CAPSL influences endothelial cell proliferation and migration. Molecularly, transcriptomic and proteomic analyses suggest that CAPSL influences many genes/proteins that are also downstream targets of MYC and may be important to the mechanisms.
Strengths:<br /> This multi-pronged approach found a previously unknown function for CAPSL in endothelial cells and pointed at MYC pathways as high-quality candidates in the mechanism. Through the review process, some statements and interpretations were initially challenged. However, the issues were addressed with new experimentation and modifications to the text - leaving a strengthened presentation that makes a compelling case.
Weaknesses:<br /> Two issues shape the overall impact for me. First, it remains unclear how common CAPSL variants may be in the human population. From the current study, it is possible that they are rare - perhaps limiting an immediate clinical impact. However, sharing the data may help identify additional variants in FEVR or other vascular diseases. The findings also make advances in basic biology which could ultimately contribute to therapies of broad relevance. Thus, this weakness is considered modest. Second, the links to the MYC axis are largely based on association, which will require additional experimentation to help understand.
One interesting technical point raised in the study, which might be missed without care by the readership, is that the variants appear to act dominantly in human families, but only act recessively in the mouse model. The authors cite other work from the field in which this same mismatch occurs, likely pointing to limits in how closely a mouse model might be expected to recapitulate a human disease. This technical point is likely relevant to ongoing studies of FEVR and many other multigenic diseases as well.
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Summary:<br /> The authors analyzed how biotic and abiotic factors impact antagonistic host-parasitoid interaction systems in a large BEF experiment. They found the linkage between the tree community and host-parasitoid community from the perspective of the multi-dimensionality of biodiversity. Their results revealed that the structure of the tree community (habitat) and canopy cover influence host-parasitoid compositions and their interaction pattern. This interaction pattern is also determined by phylogenetic associations among species. This paper provides a nice framework for detecting the determinants of network topological structures.
Strengths:<br /> This study was conducted using a five-year sampling in a well-designed BEF experiment. The effects of the multi-dimensional diversity of tree communities have been well explained in a forest ecosystem with an antagonistic host-parasitoid interaction.
The network analysis has been well conducted. The combination of phylogenetic analysis and network analysis is uncommon among similar studies, especially for studies of trophic cascades. Still, this study has discussed the effect of phylogenetic features on interacting networks in depth.
Weaknesses:<br /> (1) The authors should examine species and interaction completeness in this study to confirm that their sampling efforts are sufficient.<br /> (2) The authors only used Rao's Q to assess the functional diversity of tree communities. However, multiple metrics of functional diversity exist (e.g., functional evenness, functional dispersion, and functional divergence). It is better to check the results from other metrics and confirm whether these results further support the authors' results.<br /> (3) The authors did not elaborate on which extinction sequence was used in robustness analysis. The authors should consider interaction abundance in calculating robustness. In this case, the author may use another null model for binary networks to get random distributions.<br /> (4) The causal relationship between host and parasitoid communities is unclear. Normally, it is easy to understand that host community composition (low trophic level) could influence parasitoid community composition (high trophic level). I suggest using the 'correlation' between host and parasitoid communities unless there is strong evidence of causation.
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Reviewer #2 (Public Review):
Summary:<br /> In their manuscript, Multi-dimensionality of tree communities structure host-parasitoid networks and their phylogenetic composition, Wang et al. examine the effects of tree diversity and environmental variables on communities of reed-nesting insects and their parasitoids. Additionally, they look for the correlations in community composition and network properties of the two interacting insect guilds. They use a data set collected in a subtropical tree biodiversity experiment over five years of sampling. The authors find that the tree species, functional, and phylogenetic diversity as well as some of the environmental factors have varying impacts on both host and parasitoid communities. Additionally, the communities of the host and parasitoid showed correlations in their structures. Also, the network metrices of the host-parasitoid network showed patterns against environmental variables.
Strengths:<br /> The main strength of the manuscript lies in the massive long-term data set collected on host-parasitoid interactions. The data provides interesting opportunities to advance our knowledge on the effects of environmental diversity (tree diversity) on the network and community structure of insect hosts and their parasitoids in a relatively poorly known system.
Weaknesses:<br /> To me, there are no major issues regarding the manuscript, though sometimes I disagree with the interpretation of the results and some of the conclusions might be too far-fetched given the analyses and the results (namely the top-down control in the system). Additionally, the methods section (especially statistics) was lacking some details, but I would not consider it too concerning. Sometimes, the logic of the text could be improved to better support the studied hypotheses throughout the text. Also, the results section cannot be understood as a stand-alone without reading the methods first. The study design and the rationale of the analyses should be described somewhere in the intro or presented with the results.
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Summary:
The work by Chuong et al. provides important new insights into the contribution of different molecular mechanisms in the dynamics of CNV formation. It will be of interest to anyone curious about genome architecture and evolution from yeast biologists to cancer researchers studying genome rearrangements.
Strengths:
Their results are especially striking in that the "simplest" mechanism of GAP1 amplification-non-allelic homologous recombination between the flanking Ty-LTR elements is not the most common route taken by the cells, emphasizing the importance of experimentally testing what might seem on the surface to be obvious answers. One of the important developments of their work is the use of their neural network simulation-based inference (nnSBI) model to derive rates of amplicon formation and their fitness effects.
Weaknesses:
The manuscript reads as though two different people wrote two different sections of the manuscript - an experimental evolutionist and a computational scientist. If the goal is to reach both groups of readers, there needs to be more explanation of both types of work. I found the computational sections to be particularly dense but even the experimental sections need clearer explanations and more specific examples of the rearrangements found. I will point out these areas in the detailed remarks to the authors. While I have no reason to question their conclusions, I couldn't independently verify the results that ODIRA was the majority mechanism since the sequence of amplified clones was not made available during the review. I've encouraged the authors to include specific, detailed sequence information for both ODIRA events as well as the specific clones where GAP1 was amplified but the flanking gene GFP was not.
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Summary:
This study examines how local DNA features around the amino acid permease gene GAP1 influence adaptation to glutamine-limited conditions through changes in GAP1 Copy Number Variation (CNV). The study is well motivated by the observation of numerous CNVs documented in many organisms, but difficulty in distinguishing the mechanisms by which they are formed, and whether or how local genomic elements influence their formation. The main finding is convincing and is that a nearby Autonomous Replicating Sequence (ARS) influences the formation of GAP1 CNVs and this is consistent with a predominate mechanism of Origin Dependent Inverted Repeat Amplification (ODIRA). These results along with finding and characterizing other mechanisms of GAP1 CNV formation will be of general interest to those studying CNVs in natural systems, experimental evolution, and in tumor evolution. While the results are limited to a single CNV of interest (GAP1), the carefully controlled experimental design and quantification of CNV formation will provide a useful guide to studying other CNVs and CNVs in other organisms.
Strengths:
The study was designed to examine the effects of two flanking genomic features next to GAP1 on CNV formation and adaptation during experimental evolution. This was accomplished by removing two Long Terminal Repeats (LTRs), removing a downstream ARS, and removing both LTRs and the ARS. Although there was some heterogeneity among replicates, later shown to include the size and breakpoints of the CNV and the presence of an unmarked CNV, both marker-assisted tracking of CNV formation and modeling of CNV rate and fitness effects showed that deletion of the ARS caused a clear difference compared to the control and the LTR deletion.
The consequence of deletion of local features (LTR and ARS) was quantified by genome sequencing of adaptive clones to identify the CNV size, copy number and infer the mechanism of CNV formation. This greatly added value to the study as it showed that i) ODIRA was the most common mechanism but ODIRA is enhanced by a local ARS, ii) non-allelic homologous recombination (NAHR) is also used but depends on LTRs, and iii) de novo insertion of transposable elements mediate NAHR in strains with both ARS and LTR deletions. Together, these results show how local features influence the mechanism of CNV formation, but also how alternative mechanisms can substitute when primary ones are unavailable.
Weaknesses:
The CNV mutation rate and its effect on fitness are hard to disentangle. The frequency of the amplified GFP provides information about mutation rate differences as well as fitness differences. The data and analysis show that each evolved population has multiple GAP1 CNV lineages within it, with some being unmarked by GFP. Thus, estimates of CNV fitness are more of a composite view of all CNV amplifications increasing in frequency during adaptation. Another unknown but potential complication is whether the local (ARS, LTR) deletions influence GAP1 expression and thus the fitness gain of GAP1 CNVs. The neural network simulation-based inference does a good job at estimating both mutation rates and fitness effects, while also accounting for unmarked CNVs. However, the model does not account for the population heterogeneity of CNVs and their fitness effects. Despite these limitations of distinguishing mutation rate and fitness differences, the authors' conclusions are well supported in that the LTR and ARS deletions have a clear impact on the CNV-mediated evolutionary outcome and the mechanism of CNV formation.
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Reviewer #3 (Public Review):
Summary:
The authors represent an elegant and detailed investigation into the role of cis-elements, and therefore the underlying mechanisms, in gene dosage increase. Their most significant finding is that in their system copy number increase frequently occurs by what they call replication errors that result from the origin of replication firing.
The authors somewhat quantitatively determine the effect of the presence of a proximal origin of replication or LTR on the different CNV scenarios.
Strengths:
(1) A clever and elegant experimental design.
(2) A quantitative determination of the effect of a proximal origin of replication or LTR on the different CNV scenarios. Measuring directly the contribution of two competing elements.
(3) ODIRA can occur by firing of a distal ARS element.
(4) Re-insertion of Ty elements is interesting.
Weaknesses:
(1) Overall, the research does not considerably advance the current knowledge. The research does not investigate what the maximum distance between ARS for ODIRA is to occur. This is an important point since ODIRA was previously described. A considerable contribution to the field would be to understand under what conditions ODIRA wins NAHR.
(2) The title and some sentences in the abstract give a wrong impression of the generality and the novelty of the observations presented. Below are some examples of much earlier work that dealt with mechanisms of CNV and got different conclusions. The Lobachev lab (Cell 2006) published a different scenario years ago, with a very different mechanism (hair-pin capped breaks). The Argueso lab found something different (NAHR) (Genetics 2013).
In fact, the CUP1 system presents a good example of this point. The Houseley group showed a complex replication transcription-based mechanism (NAR 2022, cited), the Argueso group showed Ty-based amplification and the Resnick group showed aneuploidy-based amplification. While aneuploidy is a minor factor here the numerous works in Candida albicans, Cryptococcus neoformans, and Yeast suggest otherwise (Selmecki et al Science 2006, Yona et al PNAS 2013, Yang et al Microbiology Spectrum 2021).
(3) The authors added a mathematical model to their experimental data. For me, it was very difficult to understand the contribution of the model to the research. I anticipated, for example, that the model would make predictions that would be tested experimentally. For example, " ARSΔ and ALLΔ are predicted to be almost eliminated by generation 116, as the average predicted WT proportion is 0.998 and 0.999" But to my understanding without testing the model.
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Summary:
This study explores the therapeutic potential of KMO inhibition in endometriosis, a condition with limited treatment options.
Strengths:
KNS898 is a novel specific KMO inhibitor and is orally bioavailable, providing a convenient and non-hormonal treatment option for endometriosis. The promising efficacy of KNS898 was demonstrated in a relevant preclinical mouse model of endometriosis with pathological and behavioural assessments performed.
Weaknesses:
(1) The expression of KMO in human normal endometrium and endometrial lesions was not quantified. Western blot or quantification of IHC images will provide valuable insight. If KMO is not overexpressed in diseased tissues ie it may have homeostatic roles, and inhibition of KMO may have consequences on general human health and wellbeing. In addition, KMO expression in control mice was not shown or quantified. Images of KMO expression in endometriosis mice with treatments should be shown in Figure 4. The images showing quantification analysis (Figure 4A-F) can be moved to supplementary material.
(2) Figure 1 only showed representative images from a few patients. A description of whether KMO expression varies between patients and whether it correlates with AFS stages/disease severity will be helpful. Images from additional patients can be provided in supplementary material.
(3) For Home Cage Analysis, different measurements were performed as stated in methods including total moving distance, total moving time, moving speed, isolation/separation distance, isolated time, peripheral time, peripheral distance, in centre zones time, in centre zones distance, climbing time, and body temperature. However, only the finding for peripheral distance was reported in the manuscript.
(4) The rationale for choosing the different dose levels of KNS898 - 0.01-25mg/kg was not provided. What is the IC50 of a drug?
(5) Statistical significance:<br /> (a) Were stats performed for Fig 3B-E?<br /> (b) Line 141 - 'P = 0.004 for DEGLS per group'<br /> However, statistics were not shown in the figure.<br /> (c) Line 166 - 'the mechanical allodynia threshold in the hind paw was statistically significantly lower compared to baseline for the group'<br /> However, statistics were not shown in the figure.<br /> (d) Line 170 - 'Two-way ANOVA, Group effect P = 0.003, time effect P < 0.0001' The stats need to be annotated appropriately in Figure 5A as two separate symbols.<br /> (e) Figure 5B - multiple comparisons of two-way ANOVA are needed. G4 does not look different to G3 at D42.<br /> (f) Line 565 - 'non-significant improvement in KNS898 treated groups'. However, ** was annotated in Figure 5A.
(6) Discussion is very light. No reference to previous publications was made in the discussion. Discussion on potential mechanistic pathways of KYR/KMO in the pathogenesis of endometriosis will be helpful, as the expression and function of KMO and/or other metabolites in endometrial-related conditions.
The findings in this study generally support the conclusion although some key data which strengthen the conclusion eg quantification of KMO in normal and diseased tissue is lacking. Before KMO inhibitors can be used for endometriosis, the function of KMO in the context of endometriosis should be explored eg KMO knockout mice should be studied.
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Reviewer #2 (Public Review):
Summary:
The authors aim to address the clinical challenge of treating endometriosis, a debilitating condition with limited and often ineffective treatment options. They propose that inhibiting KMO could be a novel non-hormonal therapeutic approach. Their study focuses on:<br /> • Characterising KMO expression in human and mouse endometriosis tissues.<br /> • Investigating the effects of KMO inhibitor KNS898 on inflammation, lesion volume, and pain in a mouse model of endometriosis.<br /> • Demonstrating the efficacy of KMO blockade in improving histological and symptomatic features of endometriosis.
Strengths:
• Novelty and Relevance: The study addresses a significant clinical need for better endometriosis treatments and explores a novel therapeutic target.<br /> • Comprehensive Approach: The authors use both human biobanked tissues and a mouse model to study KMO expression and the effects of its inhibition.<br /> • Clear Biochemical Outcomes: The administration of KNS898 reliably induced KMO blockade, leading to measurable biochemical changes (increased kynurenine, increased kynurenic acid, reduced 3-hydroxykynurenine).
Weaknesses:
• Limited Mechanistic Insight: The study does not thoroughly investigate the mechanistic pathways through which KNS898 affects endometriosis. Specifically, the local vs. systemic effects of KMO inhibition are not well differentiated.<br /> • Statistical Analysis Issues: The choice of statistical tests (e.g., two-way ANOVA instead of repeated measures ANOVA for behavioral data) may not be the most appropriate, potentially impacting the validity of the results.<br /> • Quantification and Comparisons: There is insufficient quantitative comparison of KMO expression levels between normal endometrium and endometriosis lesions, and the systemic effects of KNS898 are not fully explored or quantified in various tissues.<br /> • Potential Side Effects: The systemic accumulation of kynurenine pathway metabolites raises concerns about potential side effects, which are not addressed in the study.
Achievement of Aims:
• The authors successfully demonstrated that KMO is expressed in endometriosis lesions and that KNS898 can induce KMO blockade, leading to biochemical changes and improvements in endometriosis symptoms in a mouse model.
Support of Conclusions:
• While the data supports the potential of KMO inhibition as a therapeutic strategy, the conclusions are somewhat overextended given the limitations in mechanistic insights and statistical analysis. The study provides promising initial evidence but requires further exploration to firmly establish the efficacy and safety of KNS898 for endometriosis treatment.
Impact on the Field:
• The study introduces a novel therapeutic target for endometriosis, potentially leading to non-hormonal treatment options. If validated, KMO inhibition could significantly impact the management of endometriosis.
Utility of Methods and Data:
• The methods used provide a foundation for further research, although they require refinement. The data, while promising, need more rigorous statistical analysis and deeper mechanistic exploration to be fully convincing and useful to the community.
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Reviewer #1 (Public Review):
The study uses nanoscale secondary ion mass spectrometry to show that maize plants inoculated with a bacteria, Gd, incorporated fixed nitrogen into the chloroplast. The authors then state that since "chloroplasts are the chief engines that drive plant growth," that it is this incorporation that explains the maize's enhanced growth with the bacteria.
But the authors don't present the total special distribution of nitrogen in plants. That is, if the majority of nitrogen is in the chloroplast (which, because of Rubisco, it likely is) then the majority of fixed nitrogen should go into the chloroplast.
Also, what are the actual controls? In the methods, the authors detail that the plants inoculated with Gd are grown without nitrogen. But how did the authors document the "enhanced growth rates of the plants containing this nitrogen fixing bacteria." Were there other plants grown without nitrogen and the Gd? If so, of course, they didn't grow as well. Nitrogen is essential for plant growth. If Gd isn't there to provide it in n-free media, then the plants won't grow. Do we need to go into the mechanism for this, really? And it's not just because nitrogen is needed in the chloroplast, even if that might be where the majority ends up.
Furthermore, it is not novel to say that nitrogen from a nitrogen fixing bacteria makes its way into the chloroplast. For any plant ever successfully grown on N free media with a nitrogen fixing bacteria, this must be the case. We don't need a fancy tool to know this.
The experimental setup does not suit the argument the authors are trying to make (and I'm not sure if the argument the authors are trying to make has any legitimacy). The authors contend that their study provides the basis of a "detailed agronomic analysis of the extent of fixed nitrogen fertilizer needs and growth responses in autonomous nitrogen-fixing maize plants." But what is a "fixed nitrogen fertilizer need"? The phrase makes no sense. A plant has nitrogen needs. This nitrogen can be provided via nitrogen fixing bacteria or fertilizer. But are there fixed nitrogen fertilizer needs? It sounds like the authors are suggesting that a plant can distinguish between nitrogen fixed by bacteria nearby and that provided by fertilizer. If that is the contention, then a new set of experiments is needed - with other controls grown on different levels of fertilizer.
What is interesting, and potentially novel, in this study is figure 1D (and lines 90-99). In that image, is the bacteria actually in the plant cell? Or is it colonizing the region between the cells? Either way, it looks to have made its way into the plant leaf, correct? I believe that would be a novel and fascinating finding. If the authors were to go into more detail into how Gd is entering into the symbiotic relationship with maize (e.g. fixing atmospheric nitrogen in the leaf tissue rather than in root nodules like legumes) I believe that would be very significant. But be sure to add to the field in relation to reference 9, and any new references since then.
Also, it would be helpful to have an idea of how fast these plants, grown in n free media but inoculated with the bacteria, grow compared to plants grown on various levels of fertilizer.
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Reviewer #2 (Public Review):
Summary:<br /> In agriculture, nitrogen fertilizers are used to allow for optimum growth and yield of crops. The use of these fertilizers has a large negative impact on the environment and climate. In this report McMahon et al. have inoculated maize seeds with a nitrogen fixing bacterium: Gluconacetobacter diazotrophicus. It has been demonstrated before that nitrogen fixed by this bacterium can be incorporated in a plant. In this study the spatial distribution of the incorporated nitrogen was revealed using NanoSIMS. The nitrogen was strongly enriched in the chloroplasts and especially the stromal region where the Calvin-Benson cycle enzymes are located.
Strengths:<br /> The topic is very interesting as nitrogen supply is of great importance for agriculture. The study is well designed, and the data convincingly show enrichment of 15N (fixed by the bacterium) in the chloroplasts.
Weaknesses:<br /> Some of the data that is discussed is not presented in the (supplement) of the paper. First, in the abstract it is mentioned "help explain the observation of enhanced growth rates in plants containing this nitrogen fixing bacterium". It is unclear if this refers to literature or to this study. Either, it should be mentioned in the introduction, or the data should be shown in the paper. Second, it is mentioned that the chloroplast had a significantly higher nitrogen isotope ratio value compared to the nuclei and the xylem cell walls. Please provide the numbers of the ratios (preferably also an image of the xylem cell wall) and the type of statistical analysis that has been performed.
The paper could benefit from a more in-depth analysis of why the nitrogen isotope ratio is higher in the chloroplast. It seems to be correlated with the local nitrogen abundance, did the authors plot the two against each other? What would it mean if it is correlated? What minimal nitrogen concentration/signal should there be to make a reliable estimate of the ratio? Does the higher ratio mean that the turnover rate of the Calvin-Benson cycle enzymes is higher than for other proteins?
For the small structures that could be the nitrogen fixing bacteria the 15N enrichment is up to 270x the natural ratio. Does this mean that 100% (270*0.0036=1) of their nitrogen is fixed from the provided atmosphere?
Could one also provide the absolute ratio in the chloroplasts? It would be nice if the authors discuss, based on their data, the potential of using nitrogen fixing bacteria to provide nitrogen to crops.
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Reviewer #1 (Public Review):
Summary:
Advances in machine vision and computer learning have meant that there are now state-of-the-art and open-source toolboxes that allow for animal pose estimation and action recognition. These technologies have the potential to revolutionize behavioral observations of wild primates but are often held back by labor-intensive model training and the need for some programming knowledge to effectively leverage such tools. The study presented here by Fuchs et al unveils a new framework (ASBAR) that aims to automate behavioral recognition in wild apes from video data. This framework combines robustly trained and well-tested pose estimate and behavioral action recognition models. The framework performs admirably at the task of automatically identifying simple behaviors of wild apes from camera trap videos of variable quality and contexts. These results indicate that skeletal-based action recognition offers a reliable and lightweight methodology for studying ape behavior in the wild and the presented framework and GUI offer an accessible route for other researchers to utilize such tools.
Given that automated behavior recognition in wild primates will likely be a major future direction within many subfields of primatology, open-source frameworks, like the one presented here, will present a significant impact on the field and will provide a strong foundation for others to build future research upon.
Strengths:
- Clearly articulated the argument as to why the framework was needed and what advantages it could convey to the wider field.
- For a very technical paper it was very well written. Every aspect of the framework the authors clearly explained why it was chosen and how it was trained and tested. This information was broken down in a clear and easily digestible way that will be appreciated by technical and non-technical audiences alike.
- The study demonstrates which pose estimation architectures produce the most robust models for both within-context and out-of-context pose estimates. This is invaluable knowledge for those wanting to produce their own robust models.
- The comparison of skeletal-based action recognition with other methodologies for action recognition helps contextualize the results.
Weaknesses
While I note that this is a paper most likely aimed at the more technical reader, it will also be of interest to a wider primatological readership, including those who work extensively in the field. When outlining the need for future work I felt the paper offered almost exclusively very technical directions. This may have been a missed opportunity to engage the wider readership and suggest some practical ways those in the field could collect more ASBAR-friendly video data to further improve accuracy.
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Reviewer #2 (Public Review):
Fuchs et al. propose a framework for action recognition based on pose estimation. They integrate functions from DeepLabCut and MMAction2, two popular machine-learning frameworks for behavioral analysis, in a new package called ASBAR.
They test their framework by
- Running pose estimation experiments on the OpenMonkeyChallenge (OMC) dataset (the public train + val parts) with DeepLabCut.
- Annotating around 320 image pose data in the PanAf dataset (which contains behavioral annotations). They show that the ResNet-152 model generalizes best from the OMC data to this out-of-domain dataset.
- They then train a skeleton-based action recognition model on PanAf and show that the top-1/3 accuracy is slightly higher than video-based methods (and strong), but that the mean class accuracy is lower - 33% vs 42%. Likely due to the imbalanced class frequencies. This should be clarified. For Table 1, confidence intervals would also be good (just like for the pose estimation results, where this is done very well).
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Reviewer #1 (Public Review):
Summary:
The anatomical connectivity of the claustrum and the role of its output projections has, thus far, not been studied in detail. The aim of this study was to map the outputs of the endopiriform (EN) region of the claustrum complex, and understand their functional role. Here the authors have combined sophisticated intersectional viral tracing techniques, and ex vivo electrophysiology to map the neural circuitry of EN outputs to vCA1, and shown that optogenetic inhibition of the EN→vCA1 projection impairs both social and object recognition memory. Interestingly the authors find that the EN neurons target inhibitory interneurons providing a mechanism for feedforward inhibition of vCA1.
Strengths:
The strength of this study was the application of a multilevel analysis approach combining a number of state-of-the-art techniques to dissect the contribution of the EN→vCA1 to memory function.
Weaknesses:
Some authors would disagree that the vCA1 represents a 'node for recognition of familiarity' especially for object recognition although that is not to say that it might play some role in discrimination, as shown by the authors. I note however that the references provided in the Introduction, concerning the role of vCA1in memory refer to anxiety, social memory, temporal order memory, and not novel object recognition memory. Given the additional projections to the piriform cortex shown in the results, I wonder to what extent the observations may be explained by odour recognition effects. In addition, I wondered whether the impairments in discrimination following Chemo-genetic inhibition of the EN→vCA1 were due to the subject treating the novel and familiar stimuli as either both novel- which might be observed as an increase in exploration, or both stimuli as familiar, with a decrease in overall exploration.
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Reviewer #2 (Public Review):
Summary:
Yamawaki et al., conducted a series of neuroanatomical tracing and whole-cell recording experiments to elucidate and characterise a relatively unknown pathway between the endopiriform (EN) and CA1 of the ventral hippocampus (vCA1) and to assess its functional role in social and object recognition using fibre photometry and dual vector chemogenetics. The main findings were that the EN sends robust projections to the vCA1 that colateralise to the prefrontal cortex, lateral entorhinal cortex, and piriform cortex, and these EN projection neurons terminate in the stratum lacunosum-moleculare (SLM) layer of distal vCA1, synapsing onto GABAergic neurons that span across the Pyramidal-Stratum Radiatum (SR) and SR-SML borders. It was also demonstrated that EN input disynaptically inhibits vCA1 pyramidal neurons. vCA1 projecting EN neurons receive afferent input from the piriform cortex, and from within EN. Finally, fibre photometry experiments revealed that vCA1 projecting EN neurons are most active when mice explore novel objects or conspecifics, and pathway-specific chemogenetic inhibition led to an impairment in the ability to discriminate between novel vs. familiar objects and conspecifics.
This is an interesting mechanistic study that provides valuable insights into the function and connectivity patterns of afferent input from the endopiriform to the CA1 subfield of the ventral hippocampus. The authors propose that the EN input to the vCA1 interneurons provides a feedforward inhibition mechanism by which novelty detection could be promoted. The experiments appear to be carefully conducted, and the methodological approaches used are sound. The conclusions of the paper are supported by the data presented on the whole.
However, some aspects of methodology and data interpretation will need to be clarified and further evidence provided to enhance the utility of the data to the rest of the field.
The authors used dual retrograde tracing and observed that the highest percentage (~30%) of vCA1 projecting EN cells also projected to the PFC. They then employed an intersectional approach to show the presence of collaterals in other cortical areas such as the entorhinal cortex and piriform cortex in addition to the PFC. However, they state that 'Projection to prefrontal cortex was sparse relative to other areas, as expected based on the retrograde labeling data' (referring to Figure 2K) and subsequently appear to dismiss the initial data set indicating strong axonal projections to the PFC.
Since this is a relatively unknown connection, it would be helpful if some evidence/discussion is provided for whether the EN projects to other subfields (CA3, DG) of the ventral hippocampus. This is important, as the retrograde tracer injections depicted in Figure 1B clearly show a spread of the tracer to vCA3 and potentially vDG and it is not possible to ascertain the regional specificity of the pathway.
The vCA1 projecting EN cells appear to originate from an extensive range along the AP axis. Is there a topographical organization of these neurons within the vCA1? A detailed mapping of this kind would be valuable.
Given this extensive range in the location of vCA1 EN originating cells, how were the targets (along the AP axis) in EP selected for the calcium imaging?
The vCA1 has extensive reciprocal connections with the piriform cortex as well, which is in close proximity to the EN. How certain are the authors that the chemogenetic targeting was specific to the EN-vCA1 connection?
Raw data for the sociability and discrimination indices should be provided so that the readers can gain further insight into the nature of the impairment.
Line 222: It is unclear how locomotor activity informs anxiety in the behavioral tests.
Figure 7 title; It is stated that activity of EN neurons 'predict' social/object discrimination performance. However, caution must be exercised with this interpretation as the correlational data are underpowered (n=5-8). Furthermore, the results show a significant correlation between calcium event ratios and the discrimination index in the social discrimination test but not the object discrimination test.
While both male and female mice were included in the anatomical tracing and recording experiments, only male mice were used for behavioral tests.
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Reviewer #1 (Public Review):
In their manuscript, the authors propose a learning scheme to enable spiking neurons to learn the appearance probability of inputs to the network. To this end, the neurons rely on error-based plasticity rules for feedforward and recurrent connections. The authors show that this enables the networks to spontaneously sample assembly activations according to the occurrence probability of the input patterns they respond to. They also show that the learning scheme could explain biases in decision-making, as observed in monkey experiments. While the task of neural sampling has been solved before in other models, the novelty here is the proposal that the main drivers of sampling are within-assembly connections, and not between-assembly (Markov chains) connections as in previous models. This could provide a new understanding of how spontaneous activity in the cortex is shaped by synaptic plasticity.
The manuscript is well written and the results are presented in a clear and understandable way. The main results are convincing, concerning the spontaneous firing rate dependence of assemblies on input probability, as well as the replication of biases in the decision-making experiment. Nevertheless, the manuscript and model leave open several important questions. The main problem is the unclarity, both in theory and intuitively, of how the sampling exactly works. This also makes it difficult to assess the claims of novelty the authors make, as it is not clear how their work relates to previous models of neural sampling.
Regarding the unclarity of the sampling mechanism, the authors state that within-assembly excitatory connections are responsible for activating the neurons according to stimulus probability. However, the intuition for this process is not made clear anywhere in the manuscript. How do the recurrent connections lead to the observed effect of sampling? How exactly do assemblies form from feedforward plasticity? This intuitive unclarity is accompanied by a lack of formal justification for the plasticity rules. The authors refer to a previous publication from the same lab, but it is difficult to connect these previous results and derivations to the current manuscript. The manuscript should include a clear derivation of the learning rules, as well as an (ideally formal) intuition of how this leads to the sampling dynamics in the simulation.
Some of the model details should furthermore be cleared up. First, recurrent connections transmit signals instantaneously, which is implausible. Is this required, would the network dynamics change significantly if, e.g., excitation arrives slightly delayed? Second, why is the homeostasis on h required for replay? The authors show that without it the probabilities of sampling are not matched, but it is not clear why, nor how homeostasis prevents this. Third, G and M have the same plasticity rule except for G being confined to positive values, but there is no formal justification given for this quite unusual rule. The authors should clearly justify (ideally formally) the introduction of these inhibitory weights G, which is also where the manuscript deviates from their previous 2020 work. My feeling is that inhibitory weights have to be constrained in the current model because they have a different goal (decorrelation, not prediction) and thus should operate with a completely different plasticity mechanism. The current manuscript doesn't address this, as there is no overall formal justification for the learning algorithm.
Finally, the authors should make the relation to previous models of sampling and error-based plasticity more clear. Since there is no formal derivation of the sampling dynamics, it is difficult to assess how they differ exactly from previous (Markov-based) approaches, which should be made more precise. Especially, it would be important to have concrete (ideally experimentally testable) predictions on how these two ideas differ. As a side note, especially in the introduction (line 90), this unclarity about the sampling made it difficult to understand the contrast to Markovian transition models.
There are also several related models that have not been mentioned and should be discussed. In 663 ff. the authors discuss the contributions of their model which they claim are novel, but in Kappel et al (STDP Installs in Winner-Take-All Circuits an Online Approximation to Hidden Markov Model Learning) similar elements seem to exist as well, and the difference should be clarified. There is also a range of other models with lateral inhibition that make use of error-based plasticity (most recently reviewed in Mikulasch et al, Where is the error? Hierarchical predictive coding through dendritic error computation), and it should be discussed how the proposed model differs from these.
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Reviewer #2 (Public Review):
Summary:
The paper considers a recurrent network with neurons driven by external input. During the external stimulation predictive synaptic plasticity adapts the forward and recurrent weights. It is shown that after the presentation of constant stimuli, the network spontaneously samples the states imposed by these stimuli. The probability of sampling stimulus x^(i) is proportional to the relative frequency of presenting stimulus x^(i) among all stimuli i=1,..., 5.
Methods:
Neuronal dynamics:
For the main simulation (Figure 3), the network had 500 neurons, and 5 non-overlapping stimuli with each activating 100 different neurons where presented. The voltage u of the neurons is driven by the forward weights W via input rates x, the inhibitory recurrent weights G, are restricted to have non-negative weights (Dale's law), and the other recurrent weights M had no sign-restrictions. Neurons were spiking with an instantaneous Poisson firing rate, and each spike-triggered an exponentially decaying postsynaptic voltage deflection. Neglecting time constants of the postsynaptic responses, the expected postsynaptic voltage reads (in vectorial form) as
u = W x + (M - G) f (Eq. 5)
where f =; phi(u) represents the instantaneous Poisson rate, and phi a sigmoidal nonlinearity. The rate f is only an approximation (symbolized by =;) of phi(u) since an additional regularization variable h enters (taken up in Point 4 below). The initialisation of W and M is Gaussian with mean 0 and variance 1/sqrt(N), N the number of neurons in the network. The initial entries of G are all set to 1/sqrt(N).
Predictive synaptic plasticity:
The 3 types of synapses were each adapted so that they individually predict the postsynaptic firing rate f, in matrix form
ΔW ≈ (f - phi( W x ) ) x^T<br /> ΔM ≈ (f - phi( M f ) ) f^T<br /> ΔG ≈ (f - phi( M f ) ) f^T but confined to non-negative values of G (Dale's law).
The ^T tells us to take the transpose, and the ≈ again refers to the fact that the ϕ entering in the learning rule is not exactly the ϕ determining the rate, only up to the regularization (see Point 4).
Main formal result:
As the authors explain, the forward weight W and the unconstrained weight M develop such that, in expectations,
f =; phi( W x ) =; phi( M f ) =; phi( G f ) ,
consistent with the above plasticity rules. Some elements of M remain negative. In this final state, the network displays the behaviour as explained in the summary.
Major issues:
Point 1: Conceptual inconsistency
The main results seem to arise from unilaterally applying Dale's law only to the inhibitory recurrent synapses G, but not to the excitatory recurrent synapses M.
In fact, if the same non-negativity restriction were also imposed on M (as it is on G), then their learning rules would become identical, likely leading to M=G. But in this case, the network becomes purely forward, u = W x, and no spontaneous recall would arise. Of course, this should be checked in simulations.
Because Dale's law was only applied to G, however, M and G cannot become equal, and the remaining differences seem to cause the effect.
Predictive learning rules are certainly powerful, and it is reasonable to consider the same type of error-correcting predictive learning rule, for instance for different dendritic branches that both should predict the somatic activity. Or one may postulate the same type of error-correcting predictive plasticity for inhibitory and excitatory synapses, but then the presynaptic neurons should not be identical, as it is assumed here. Both these types of error-correcting and error-forming learning rules for same-branches and inhibitory/excitatory inputs have been considered already (but with inhibitory input being itself restricted to local input, for instance).
Point 2: Main result as an artefact of an inconsistently applied Dale's law?
The main result shows that the probability of a spontaneous recall for the 5 non-overlapping stimuli is proportional to the relative time the stimulus was presented. This is roughly explained as follows: each stimulus pushes the activity from 0 up towards f =; phi( W x ) by the learning rule (roughly). Because the mean weights W are initialized to 0, a stimulus that is presented longer will have more time to push W up so that positive firing rates are reached (assuming x is non-negative). The recurrent weights M learn to reproduce these firing rates too, while the plasticity in G tries to prevent that (by its negative sign, but with the restriction to non-negative values). Stimuli that are presented more often, on average, will have more time to reach the positive target and hence will form a stronger and wider attractor. In spontaneous recall, the size of the attractor reflects the time of the stimulus presentation. This mechanism so far is fine, but the only problem is that it is based on restricting G, but not M, to non-negative values.
Point 3: Comparison of rates between stimulation and recall.
The firing rates with external stimulations will be considerably larger than during replay (unless the rates are saturated).
This is a prediction that should be tested in simulations. In fact, since the voltage roughly reads as<br /> u = W x + (M - G) f,<br /> and the learning rules are such that eventually M =; G, the recurrences roughly cancel and the voltage is mainly driven by the external input x. In the state of spontaneous activity without external drive, one has<br /> u = (M - G) f ,<br /> and this should generate considerably smaller instantaneous rates f =; phi(u) than in the case of the feedforward drive (unless f is in both cases at the upper or lower ceiling of phi). This is a prediction that can also be tested.
Because the figures mostly show activity ratios or normalized activities, it was not possible for me to check this hypothesis with the current figures. So please show non-normalized activities for comparing stimulation and recall for the same patterns.
Point 4: Unclear definition of the variable h.<br /> The formal definition of h = hi is given by (suppressing here the neuron index i and the h-index of tau)
tau dh/dt = -h if h>u, (Eq. 10)<br /> h = u otherwise.
But if it is only Equation 10 (nothing else is said), h will always become equal to u, or will vanish, i.e. either h=u or h=0 after some initial transient. In fact, as soon as h>u, h is decaying to 0 according to the first line. If u is >0, then it stops at u=h according to the second line. No reason to change h=u further. If u<=0 while h>u, then h is converging to 0 according to the first line and will stay there. I guess the authors had issues with the recurrent spiking simulations and tried to fix this with some regularization. However as presented, it does not become clear how their regulation works.
BTW: In Eq. 11 the authors set the gain beta to beta = beta0/h which could become infinite and, putatively more problematic, negative, depending on the value of h. Maybe some remark would convince a reader that no issues emerge from this.
Added from discussions with the editor and the other reviewers:
Thanks for alerting me to this Supplementary Figure 8. Yes, it looks like the authors did apply there Dale's law for both the excitatory and inhibitory synapses. Yet, they also introduced two types of inhibitory pathways converging both to the excitatory and inhibitory neurons. For me, this is a confirmation that applying Dale's law to both excitatory and inhibitory synapses, with identical learning rules as explained in the main part of the paper, does not work.
Adding such two pathways is a strong change from the original model as introduced before, and based on which all the Figures in the main text are based. Supplementary Figure 8 should come with an analysis of why a single inhibitory pathway does not work. I guess I gave the reason in my Points 1-3. Some form of symmetry breaking between the recurrent excitation and recurrent inhibition is required so that, eventually, the recurrent excitatory connection will dominate.
Making the inhibitory plasticity less expressive by applying Dale's law to only those inhibitory synapses seems to be the answer chosen in the Figures of the main text (but then the criticism of unilaterally applying Dale's law).
Applying Dale's law to both types of synapses, but dividing the labor of inhibition into two strictly separate and asymmetric pathways, and hence asymmetric development of excitatory and inhibitory weights, seems to be another option. However, introducing such two separate inhibitory pathways, just to rescue the fact that Dale's law is applied to both types of synapses, is a bold assumption. Is there some biological evidence of such two pathways in the inhibitory, but not the excitatory connections? And what is the computational reasoning to have such a separation, apart from some form of symmetry breaking between excitation and inhibition? I guess, simpler solutions could be found, for instance by breaking the symmetry between the plasticity rules for the excitatory and inhibitory neurons. All these questions, in my view, need to be addressed to give some insights into why the simulations do work.
Overall, Supplementary Figure 8 seems to me too important to be deferred to the Supplement. The reasoning behind the two inhibitory pathways should appear more prominently in the main text. Without this, important questions remain. For instance, when thinking in a rate-based framework, the two inhibitory pathways twice try to explain the somatic firing rate away. Doesn't this lead to a too strong inhibition? Can some steady state with a positive firing rate caused by the recurrence, in the absence of an external drive, be proven? The argument must include the separation into Path 1 and Path 2. So far, this reasoning has not been entered.
In fact, it might be that, in a spiking implementation, some sparse spikes will survive. I wonder whether at least some of these spikes survive because of the other rescuing construction with the dynamic variable h (Equation 10, which is not transparent, and that is not taken up in the reasoning either, see my Point 4).
Perhaps it is helpful for the authors to add this text in the reply to them.
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Reviewer #3 (Public Review):
Summary:
The work shows how learned assembly structure and its influence on replay during spontaneous activity can reflect the statistics of stimulus input. In particular, stimuli that are more frequent during training elicit stronger wiring and more frequent activation during replay. Past works (Litwin-Kumar and Doiron, 2014; Zenke et al., 2015) have not addressed this specific question, as classic homeostatic mechanisms forced activity to be similar across all assemblies. Here, the authors use a dynamic gain and threshold mechanism to circumnavigate this issue and link this mechanism to cellular monitoring of membrane potential history.
Strengths:
(1) This is an interesting advance, and the authors link this to experimental work in sensory learning in environments with non-uniform stimulus probabilities.
(2) The authors consider their mechanism in a variety of models of increasing complexity (simple stimuli, complex stimuli; ignoring Dale's law, incorporating Dale's law).
(3) Links a cellular mechanism of internal gain control (their variable h) to assembly formation and the non-uniformity of spontaneous replay activity. Offers a promise of relating cellular and synaptic plasticity mechanisms under a common goal of assembly formation.
Weaknesses:
(1) However, while the manuscript does show that assembly wiring does follow stimulus likelihood, it is not clear how the assembly-specific statistics of h reflect these likelihoods. I find this to be a key issue.
(2) The authors' model does take advantage of the sigmoidal transfer function, and after learning an assembly is either fully active or nearly fully silent (Figure 2a). This somewhat artificial saturation may be the reason that classic homeostasis is not required since runaway activity is not as damaging to network activity.
(3) Classic mechanisms of homeostatic regulation (synaptic scaling, inhibitory plasticity) try to ensure that firing rates match a target rate (on average). If the target rate is the same for all neurons then having elevated firing rates for one assembly compared to others during spontaneous activity would be difficult. If these homeostatic mechanisms were incorporated, how would they permit the elevated firing rates for assemblies that represent more likely stimuli?
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Reviewer #2 (Public Review):
This study elucidates the toxic effects of the lipid aldehyde trans-2-hexadecenal (t-2-hex). The authors show convincingly that t-2-hex induces a strong transcriptional response, leads to proteotoxic stress and causes the accumulation of mitochondrial precursor proteins in the cytosol.
The data shown are of high quality and well-controlled. The genetic screen for mutants that are hyper-and hypo-sensitive to t-2-hex is elegant and interesting, even if the mechanistic insights from the screen are rather limited. Moreover, the authors show evidence that t-2-hex affects subunits of the TOM complex. However, they do not formally demonstrate that the lipidation of a TOM subunit is responsible for the toxic effect of t-2-hex. A t-2-hex-resistant TOM mutant was not identified. Nevertheless, this is an interesting and inspiring study of high quality. The connection of proteostasis, mitochondrial biogenesis and sphingolipid metabolism is exciting and will certainly lead to many follow-up studies.
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Reviewer #3 (Public Review):
Summary: The authors investigate the effect of high concentrations of the lipid aldehyde trans-2-hexadecenal (t-2-hex) in a yeast deletion strain lacking the detoxification enzyme. Transcriptomic analyses as global read out reveal that a large range of cellular functions across all compartments are affected (transcriptomic changes affect 1/3 of all genes). The authors provide additional analyses, from which they built a model that mitochondrial protein import caused by modification of Tom40 is blocked.
Strengths:<br /> Global analyses (transcriptomic and functional genomics approach) to obtain an overview of changes upon yeast treatment with high doses of t-2-hex.
Weaknesses:<br /> The use of high concentrations of t-2-hex in combination with a deletion of the detoxifying enzyme Hfd1 limits the possibility to identify physiological relevant changes. From the hundreds of identified targets the authors focus on mitochondrial proteins, which are not clearly comprehensible from the data. The main claim of the manuscript that t-2-hex targets the TOM complex and inhibits mitochondrial protein import is not supported by experimental data as import was not experimentally investigated. The observed accumulation of precursor proteins could have many other reasons (e.g. dissipation of membrane potential, defects in mitochondrial presequence proteases, defects in cytosolic chaperones, modification of mitochondrial precursors by t-2-hex rendering them aggregation prone and thus non-import competent). However, none of these alternative explanations have been experimentally addressed or discussed in the manuscript.<br /> Furthermore, many of the results have been reported before (interaction of Tom22 and Tom70 with Hfd1) or observed before (TOM40 as target of t-2-hex in human cells).
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Reviewer #1 (Public Review):
Summary:
The manuscript considers a mechanistic extension of MacArthur's consumer-resource model to include chasing down of food and potential encounters between the chasers (consumers) that lead to less efficient feeding in the form of negative feedback. After developing the model, a deterministic solution and two forms of stochastic solutions are presented, in agreement with each other. Finally, the model is applied to explain observed coexistence and rank-abundance data.
Strengths:
- The application of the theory to natural rank-abundance curves is impressive.<br /> - The comparison with the experiments that reject the competitive exclusion principle is promising. It would be fascinating to see if in, e.g. insects, the specific interference dynamics could be observed and quantified and whether they would agree with the model.<br /> - The results are clearly presented; the methods adequately described; the supplement is rich with details.<br /> - There is much scope to build upon this expansion of the theory of consumer-resource models. This work can open up new avenues of research.
Weaknesses:
- Though more and better data could be used to constrain and validate the modeling, given this is a theory-driven manuscript, their results are sufficient.
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Reviewer #3 (Public Review):
Summary:
In this manuscript, the authors extend previous work on the role of predator interference in species coexistence. Previous theoretical work (for example, using the Beddington-DeAngelis model) has shown that predator interference allows for multiple predators to coexist on the same prey. While the Beddington-DeAngelis has been influential in theoretical ecology, it has also been criticized at times for several unusual assumptions, most critically, that predators interfere with each other regardless of whether they are already engaged in another interaction. There has been considerable work since then which has sought either to find sets of assumptions that lead to the B-D equation or to derive alternative equations from a more realistic set of assumptions (Ruxton et al. 1992; Cosner et al. 1999; Broom et al. 2010; Geritz and Gyllenberg 2012). This paper represents another effort to more rigorously derive a model of predator interference by borrowing concepts from chemical reaction kinetics (the approach is similar to previous work: Ruxton et al. 1992). The main point of difference is that the model in the current manuscript allows for 'chasing pairs', where a predator and prey engage with one another to the exclusion of other interactions, a situation Ruxton et al. (1992) do not consider. While the resulting functional response is quite complex, the authors show that under certain conditions, one can get an analytical expression for the functional response of a predator as a function of predator and resource densities. They then go on to show that including intraspecific interference allows for the coexistence of multiple species on one or a few resources, and demonstrate that this result is robust to demographic stochasticity. This work provides additional support for the idea that predator interference allows multiple predators to persist with a shared resource.
Strengths:
I appreciate the effort to rigorously derive interaction rates from models of individual behaviors. As currently applied, functional responses (FRs) are estimated by fitting equations to feeding rate data across a range of prey or predator densities. In practice, such experiments are only possible for a limited set of species. This is problematic because whether a particular FR allows stability or coexistence depends on not just its functional form, but also its parameter values. The promise of the approach taken here is that one might be able to derive the functional response parameters of a particular predator species from species traits or more readily measurable behavioural data.
Weaknesses:
The main weakness of this paper is that while it is technically sound, it doesn't change the fundamental intuition gained from more phenomenological models of predator interference: as one species becomes more common, it limits its own growth (manifested by less time spent searching for/handing resources due to interference), such that it does not exclude the existence of a competitor species. However, given the authors use a different model formulation that has been used in past studies, it suggests that predator interference will likely tend to promote coexistence regardless of some of the technical details in how it is formulated in a model.
The formulation of chasing-pair engagements assumes that prey being chased by a predator are unavailable to other predators. While this may hold in some predator-prey, it does not hold for many others, perhaps limiting some results' generality.
Summary:
The manuscript by Kang et al investigates how the consideration of pairwise encounters (consumer-resource chasing, intraspecific consumer pair, and interspecific consumer pair) influences the community assembly results. To explore this, they presented a new model that considers pairwise encounters and intraspecific interference among consumer individuals, which is an extension of the classical Beddington-DeAngelis (B-D) phenomenological model, incorporating detailed considerations of pairwise encounters and intraspecific interference among consumer individuals. Later, they connected with several experimental datasets.
Strengths:
They found that the negative feedback loop created by the intraspecific interference allows a diverse range of consumer species to coexist with only one or a few types of resources. Additionally, they showed that some patterns of their model agree with experimental data, including time-series trajectories of two small in-lab community experiments and the rank-abundance curves from several natural communities. The presented results here are interesting and present another way to explain how the community overcomes the competitive exclusion principle.
Weaknesses:
The authors did a great job of satisfactorily addressing each of my concerns raised in the previous round. I did not detect additional weaknesses.
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Reviewer #1 (Public Review):
The authors use neural recordings from three different brain areas to assess whether the type of evidence accumulation dynamics in those regions are (1) similar to one another, and (2) similar to best-fitting evidence accumulation dynamics to behavioral choice alone. This is an important theoretical question because it relates to the 'linking hypothesis' that relates neurophysiological data to psychological phenomena. Although the standard evidence accumulation dynamic in describing choice has been the gradual accumulation of evidence, the authors find that those dynamics are not represented equally in all brain regions. Such results suggest that more nuanced computational models are needed to explain how brain areas interact to produce decisions, and the focus of theoretical development should shift away from explaining behavioral patterns alone and more toward explaining both brain and behavioral interactions. Given that the authors simply test the assumption that the same dynamics that best explain behavior should also explain neural data, they accomplish their objective using a sophisticated methodology and find evidence *against* this assumption: they find that each region was best described by a distinct accumulation model, which all differed from the model that best described the rat's choices.
I thought this was an excellent paper with a clear scientific objective, direct analysis to achieve that objective, and a very strong methodological approach to leave little doubt that the conclusions they drew from their analyses were as reasonable and accurate as possible.
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Reviewer #2 (Public Review):
The neural dynamics underlying decision-making have long been studied across different species (e.g., primates and rodents) and brain areas (e.g., parietal cortex, frontal eye fields, striatum). The key question is to what extent neural firing rates covary with evidence accumulation processes as proposed by evidence accumulation models. It is often assumed that the evidence-accumulation process at the neural level should mirror the evidence-accumulation process at the behavioral level. The current paper shows that the neural dynamics of three rat brain regions (the FOF, ADS, and PCC) all show signatures of evidence accumulation, but in distinct ways. Especially the role of the FOF appears to be distinct, due to its dependence on early evidence compared to the other regions. This sheds new light and a new interpretation of the role of the FOF in decision-making - previously, it has been described as a region encoding the choice that is currently being committed to; this new analysis suggests it is instead strongly influenced by early evidence.
A major strength of the paper is that the results are achieved through joint modelling of the behavioral and neural data, combined with information on the physical stimulus at hand. Joint models were shown to provide more information on the underlying processes compared to behavioral or neural models alone. Especially the inclusion of the neural data seemed to have greatly improved the quality of inferences. This is a key contribution that illustrates that the sophisticated modelling of multiple sources of data at the same time, pays off in terms of the quality of inferences. Yet, it should be added here, that due to the nature of the task, the behavioral data contained only choices, and not response times, which tend to contain more information regarding the evidence accumulation process than choice alone. It would be interesting to additionally discuss how choice decision times can be modeled with the proposed modelling framework.
A main limitation of the paper is that it does not appear to address a seemingly logical follow-up question: If these three brain regions individually accumulate evidence in distinct manners, how do these multiple brain regions then each contribute to a final choice? The joint models fit each region's data separately, so how well does each region individually 'explain' or 'predict' behavior, and how does the combined neural activity of the regions lead to manifest behavior? I would be very interested in the authors' perspectives on these questions.
There are some remaining questions regarding the specific models used, that I was hoping the authors could clarify. Specifically, in equations 10-11, I was wondering to what extent there might be a collinearity issue. Equation 10 proposes that the firing rates of neurons can vary across time due to two mechanisms: (1) The dependence of the firing rate on the accumulated evidence, and (2) a time-varying trial average (as detailed in Equation 11). If firing rates of the neuron indeed covary with the accumulated evidence and therefore increase across time, how can the effects of mechanisms 1 and 2 be disentangled? Relatedly, the independent noise models model each neuron separately and thereby include many more parameters, each informed by less data. Is it possible that the relatively poor cross-validation of the independent noise model may be a consequence of the overfitting of the independent noise model?<br /> Another related question is how robust the parameter recovery properties of these models are under a wider range of data-generating parameter settings. I greatly appreciate the inclusion of a parameter recovery study (Figure S1C) using a single synthetic dataset, but it could be made even stronger by simulating multiple datasets with a wider range of parameter settings. Such a simulation study would help understand how robust and reliable the estimated parameters of all models are. Similarly, it would be helpful if also the \theta_{y} parameters are shown, which aren't shown in Figure S1C.
An aspect of the paper that initially raised confusion with me is that the models fit on the choice data and stimulus information alone, make different predictions for the evidence accumulation dynamics in different regions (e.g., Figure 5A, 6A) and also led to different best-fitting parameters in different regions (Figure S9A). It took me a while to realize that this is due to the data being pooled across different rats and sessions - as such, the behavioral choice data are not the same across regions, and neither is the resulting fit models. This could easily be clarified by adding a few notes in the captions of the relevant figures.
Combined, this manuscript represents an interesting and welcome contribution to an ongoing debate on the neural dynamics of decision-making across different brain regions. It also introduced new joint modelling techniques that can be used in the field and raised new questions on how the concurrent activity of neurons across different brain regions combined leads to behavior.
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Reviewer #1 (Public Review):
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In their manuscript, Schmidlin, Apodaca et al try to answer fundamental questions about the evolution of new phenotypes and the trade-offs associated with this process. As a model, they use yeast resistance to two drugs, fluconazole and radicicol. They use barcoded libraries of isogenic yeasts to evolve thousands of strains in 12 different environments. They then measure the fitness of evolved strains in all environments and use these measurements to enumerate patterns in fitness trade-offs. They identify only six major clusters corresponding to different trade-off profiles, suggesting the vast genotypic landscape of evolved mutants translates to a highly constrained phenotypic space. They sequence over a hundred evolved strains and find that mutations in the same gene can result in different phenotypic profiles.
Overall, the authors deploy innovative methods to scale up experimental evolution experiments, and in many aspects of their approach tried to minimize experimental variation.
Weaknesses:
(1) The main objective of the authors is to characterize the extent of phenotypic diversity in terms of resistance trade-offs between fluconazole and radicicol. To minimize noise in the measurement of relative fitness, the authors only included strains with at least 500 barcode counts across all time points in all 12 experimental conditions, resulting in a set of 774 lineages passing this threshold. As the authors remark, this will bias their datasets for lineages with high fitness in all 12 environments, as all these strains must be fit enough to maintain a high abundance. One of the main observations of the authors is phenotypic space is constrained to a few clusters of roughly similar relative fitness patterns, giving hope that such clusters could be enumerated and considered to design antimicrobial treatment strategies. However, by excluding all lineages that fit in only one or a few environments, they conceal much of the diversity that might exist in terms of trade-offs and set up an inclusion threshold that might present only a small fraction of phenotypic space with characteristics consistent with generalist resistance mechanisms or broadly increased fitness. The general conclusions of the authors regarding the evolution of trade-offs might thus be more focused on multi-drug resistant phenotypes.
(2) Most large-scale pooled competition assays using barcodes are usually stopped after ~25 to avoid noise due to the emergence of secondary mutations. The authors measure fitness across ~40 generations, which is almost the same number of generations as in the evolution experiment. This raises the possibility of secondary mutations biasing abundance values, which would not have been detected by the whole genome sequencing as it was performed before the competition assay. Previous studies approximated the fraction of lineages that could be overtaken by secondary mutations (Venkataram and Dunn et al 2016). In their calculations, Venkataram and Dunn et al defined adaptive mutations in their data as having a selection coefficient of 5% and highly adaptive mutations at around 10%. From this and an estimation of the mutation rate, they estimate that the fraction of lineages overtaken by adaptive mutations is negligible (10^4) after 32 generations. However, the effects on fitness observed by the authors here tend to be much stronger than 5-10%, with relative fitness advantages above 1 and often reaching 2. This could result in a much higher chance of lineages being overtaken at 40 generations.
(3) The approach used by the authors to identify and visualize clusters of phenotypes among lineages does not seem to consider the uncertainty in the measurement of their relative fitness. As can be seen from Figure S4, the inter-replicate difference in measured fitness can often be quite large. From these graphs, it is also possible to see that some of the fitness measurements do not correlate linearly (ex.: Med Flu, Hi Rad Low Flu), meaning that taking the average of both replicates might not be the best approach. Because the clustering approach used does not seem to take this variability into account, it becomes difficult to evaluate the strength of the clustering, especially because the UMAP projection does not include any representation of uncertainty around the position of lineages.
(4) The authors make the decision to use UMAP and a Gaussian mixed model as well as validation data to identify unique clusters, which is one of their main objectives. The choice of 7 clusters as the cutoff for the multiple Gaussian model is not well explained. Based on Figure S6A, BIC starts leveling off at 6 clusters, not 7, and going to 8 clusters would provide the same reduction as going from 6 to 7. This choice also appears arbitrary in Figure S6B, where BIC levels off at 9 clusters when only highly abundant lineages are considered. All of the data presented in the validations is presented to fit within the 6 clusters structure but does not include evidence against alternative scenarios for additional relevant clusters as might be suggested by Figure S6.
(5) Large-scale barcode sequencing assays can often be noisy and are generally validated using growth curves or competition assays. Reconstructing some of the specific mutants they identified to validate their phenotypes would also have been a good addition. If the phenotypic clusters identified cannot be reproduced outside of the sequencing assay, then their relevance are they as a model for multi-drug resistance scenarios might be reduced.
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Reviewer #1 (Public Review):
Summary:
In their manuscript, Schmidlin, Apodaca, et al try to answer fundamental questions about the evolution of new phenotypes and the trade-offs associated with this process. As a model, they use yeast resistance to two drugs, fluconazole and radicicol. They use barcoded libraries of isogenic yeasts to evolve thousands of strains in 12 different environments. They then measure the fitness of evolved strains in all environments and use these measurements to examine patterns in fitness trade-offs. They identify only six major clusters corresponding to different trade-off profiles, suggesting the vast genotypic landscape of evolved mutants translates to a highly constrained phenotypic space. They sequence over a hundred evolved strains and find that mutations in the same gene can result in different phenotypic profiles.
Overall, the authors deploy innovative methods to scale up experimental evolution experiments, and in many aspects of their approach tried to minimize experimental variation.
Weaknesses:
(1) One of the objectives of the authors is to characterize the extent of phenotypic diversity in terms of resistance trade-offs between fluconazole and radicicol. To minimize noise in the measurement of relative fitness, the authors only included strains with at least 500 barcode counts across all time points in all 12 experimental conditions, resulting in a set of 774 lineages passing this threshold. This corresponds to a very small fraction of the starting set of ~21 000 lineages that were combined after experimental evolution for fitness measurements. As the authors briefly remark, this will bias their datasets for lineages with high fitness in all 12 environments, as all these strains must be fit enough to maintain a high abundance. One of the main observations of the authors is phenotypic space is constrained to a few clusters of roughly similar relative fitness patterns, giving hope that such clusters could be enumerated and considered to design antimicrobial treatment strategies. However, by excluding all lineages that fit in only one or a few environments, they conceal much of the diversity that might exist in terms of trade-offs and set up an inclusion threshold that might present only a small fraction of phenotypic space with characteristics consistent with generalist resistance mechanisms or broadly increased fitness. This has important implications regarding the general conclusions of the authors regarding the evolution of trade-offs.
(2) Most large-scale pooled competition assays using barcodes are usually stopped after ~25 to avoid noise due to the emergence of secondary mutations. The authors measure fitness across ~40 generations, which is almost the same number of generations as in the evolution experiment. This raises the possibility of secondary mutations biasing abundance values, which would not have been detected by the whole genome sequencing as it was performed before the competition assay.
(3) The approach used by the authors to identify and visualize clusters of phenotypes among lineages does not seem to consider the uncertainty in the measurement of their relative fitness. As can be seen from Figure S4, the inter-replicate difference in measured fitness can often be quite large. From these graphs, it is also possible to see that some of the fitness measurements do not correlate linearly (ex.: Med Flu, Hi Rad Low Flu), meaning that taking the average of both replicates might not be the best approach. Because the clustering approach used does not seem to take this variability into account, it becomes difficult to evaluate the strength of the clustering, especially because the UMAP projection does not include any representation of uncertainty around the position of lineages. This might paint a misleading picture where clusters appear well separate and well defined but are in fact much fuzzier, which would impact the conclusion that the phenotypic space is constricted.
(4) The authors make the decision to use UMAP and a gaussian mixed model to cluster and represent the different fitness landscapes of their lineages of interest. Their approach has many caveats. First, compared to PCA, the axis does not provide any information about the actual dissimilarities between clusters. Using PCA would have allowed a better understanding of the amount of variance explained by components that separate clusters, as well as more interpretable components. Second, the advantages of dimensional reduction are not clear. In the competition experiment, 11/12 conditions (all but the no drug, no DMSO conditions) can be mapped to only three dimensions: concentration of fluconazole, concentration of radicicol, and relative fitness. Each lineage would have its own fitness landscape as defined by the plane formed by relative fitness values in this space, which can then be examined and compared between lineages. Third, the choice of 7 clusters as the cutoff for the multiple Gaussian model is not well explained. Based on Figure S6A, BIC starts leveling off at 6 clusters, not 7, and going to 8 clusters would provide the same reduction as going from 6 to 7. This choice also appears arbitrary in Figure S6B, where BIC levels off at 9 clusters when only highly abundant lineages are considered. This directly contradicts the statement in the main text that clusters are robust to noise, as more a stringent inclusion threshold appears to increase and not decrease the optimal number of clusters. Additional criteria to BIC could have been used to help choose the optimal number of clusters or even if mixed Gaussian modeling is appropriate for this dataset.
(5) Large-scale barcode sequencing assays can often be noisy and are generally validated using growth curves or competition assays. Having these types of results would help support the accuracy of the main assay in the manuscript and thus better support the claims of the authors.
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Reviewer #2 (Public Review):
Summary:
Schmidlin & Apodaca et al. aim to distinguish mutants that resist drugs via different mechanisms by examining fitness tradeoffs across hundreds of fluconazole-resistant yeast strains. They barcoded a collection of fluconazole-resistant isolates and evolved them in different environments with a view to having relevance for evolutionary theory, medicine, and genotype-phenotype mapping.
Strengths:
There are multiple strengths to this paper, the first of which is pointing out how much work has gone into it; the quality of the experiments (the thought process, the data, the figures) is excellent. Here, the authors seek to induce mutations in multiple environments, which is a really large-scale task. I particularly like the attention paid to isolates with are resistant to low concentrations of FLU. So often these are overlooked in favour of those conferring MIC values >64/128 etc. What was seen is different genotype and fitness profiles. I think there's a wealth of information here that will actually be of interest to more than just the fields mentioned (evolutionary medicine/theory).
Weaknesses:
Not picking up low fitness lineages - which the authors discuss and provide a rationale as to why. I can completely see how this has occurred during this research, and whilst it is a shame I do not think this takes away from the findings of this paper. Maybe in the next one!
In the abstract the authors focus on 'tradeoffs' yet in the discussion they say the purpose of the study is to see how many different mechanisms of FLU resistance may exist (lines 679-680), followed up by "We distinguish mutants that likely act via different mechanisms by identifying those with different fitness tradeoffs across 12 environments". Whilst I do see their point, and this is entirely feasible, I would like a bit more explanation around this (perhaps in the intro) to help lay-readers make this jump. The remainder of my comments on 'weaknesses' are relatively fixable, I think:
In the introduction I struggle to see how this body of research fits in with the current literature, as the literature cited is a hodge-podge of bacterial and fungal evolution studies, which are very different! So example, the authors state "previous work suggests that mutants with different fitness tradeoffs may affect fitness through different molecular mechanisms" (lines 129-131) and then cite three papers, only one of which is a fungal research output. However, the next sentence focuses solely on literature from fungal research. Citing bacterial work as a foundation is fine, but as you're using yeast for this I think tailoring the introduction more to what is and isn't known in fungi would be more appropriate. It would also be great to then circle back around and mention monotherapy vs combination drug therapy for fungal infections as a rationale for this study. The study seems to be focused on FLU-resistant mutants, which is the first-line drug of choice, but many (yeast) infections have acquired resistance to this and combination therapy is the norm.
Methods: Line 769 - which yeast? I haven't even seen mention of which species is being used in this study; different yeast employ different mechanisms of adaptation for resistance, so could greatly impact the results seen. This could help with some background context if the species is mentioned (although I assume S. cerevisiae). In which case, should aneuploidy be considered as a mechanism? This is mentioned briefly on line 556, but with all the sequencing data acquired this could be checked quickly?
I think the authors could be bolder and try and link this to other (pathogenic) yeasts. What are the implications of this work on say, Candida infections?
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Reviewer #1 (Public Review):
Mehrdad Kashefi et al. investigated the availability of planning future reaches while simultaneously controlling the execution of the current reach. Through a series of experiments employing a novel sequential arm reaching paradigm they developed, the authors made several findings: 1) participants demonstrate the capability to plan future reaches in advance, thereby accelerating the execution of the reaching sequence, 2) planning processes for future movements are not independent one another, however, it's not a single chunk neither, 3) Interaction among these planning processes optimizes the current movement for the movement that comes after for it.
The question of this paper is very interesting, and the conclusions of this paper are well supported by data.
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Reviewer #2 (Public Review):
In this work, Kashefi et al. investigate the planning of sequential reaching movements and how the additional information about future reaches affects planning and execution. This study, carried out with human subjects, extends a body of research in sequential movements to ask important questions: How many future reaches can you plan in advance? And how do those future plans interact with each other?
The authors designed several experiments to address these questions, finding that information about future targets makes reaches more efficient in both timing and path curvature. Further, with some clever target jump manipulations, the authors show that plans for a distant future reach can influence plans for a near future reach, suggesting that the planning for multiple future reaches is not independent. Lastly, the authors show that information about future targets is acquired parafoveally--that is, subjects tend to fixate mainly on the target they are about to reach to, acquiring future target information by paying attention to targets outside the fixation point.
The study opens up exciting questions about how this kind of multi-target planning is implemented in the brain. As the authors note in the manuscript, previous work in monkeys showed that preparatory neural activity for a future reaching movement can occur simultaneously with a current reaching movement, but that study was limited to the monkey only knowing about two future targets. It would be quite interesting to see how neural activity partitions preparatory activity for a third future target, given that this study shows that the third target's planning may interact with the second target's planning.
[Editors' note: The authors fully addressed the reviewers' comments on the original manuscript.]
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Summary:
HIV associated nephropathy (HIVAN) is a rapidly progressing form of kidney disease that manifests secondary to untreated HIV infection and is predominantly seen in individuals of African descent. Tg26 mice carrying an HIV transgene lacking gag and pol exhibit high levels of albuminuria and rapid decline in renal function that recapitulates many features of HIVAN in humans. HIVAN is seen predominantly in individuals carrying two copies of missense variants in the APOL1 gene, and the authors have previously shown that APOL1 risk variant mRNA induces activity of the double strand RNA sensor kinase PKR. Because of the tight association between the APOL1 risk genotype and HIVAN, the authors hypothesized that PKR activation may mediate the renal injury in Tg26 mice, and tested this hypothesis by treating mice with a commonly used PKR inhibitory compound called C16. Treatment with C16 substantially attenuated renal damage in the Tg26 model as measured by urinary albumin/creatinine ratio, urinary NGAL/creatinine ratio and improvement in histology. The authors then performed bulk and single-nucleus RNAseq on kidneys from mice from different treatment groups to identify pathways and patterns of cell injury associated with HIV transgene expression as well as to determine the mechanistic basis for the effect of C16 treatment. They show that proximal tubule nuclei from Tg26 mice appear to have more mitochondrial transcripts which was reversed by C16 treatment and suggest that this may provide evidence of mitochondrial dysfunction in this model. They explore this hypothesis by showing there is a decrease in the expression of nuclear encoded genes and proteins involved in oxidative phosphorylation as well as a decrease in respiratory capacity via functional assessment of respiration in tubule and glomerular preparations from these mouse kidneys. All of these changes were reversed by C16 treatment. The authors propose the existence of a novel injured proximal tubule cell-type characterized by the leak of mitochondrial transcripts into the nucleus (PT-Mito). Analysis of HIV transgene expression showed high level expression in podocytes, consistent with the pronounced albuminuria that characterizes this model and HIVAN, but transcripts were also detected in tubular and endothelial cells. Because of the absence of mitochondrial transcripts in the podocytes, the authors speculate that glomerular mitochondrial dysfunction in this model is driven by damage to glomerular endothelial cells.
Strengths:
The strengths of this study include the comprehensive transcriptional analysis of the Tg26 model, including an evaluation of HIV transgene expression, which has not been previously reported. This data highlights that HIV transcripts are expressed in a subset of podocytes, consistent with the highly proteinuric disease seen in mouse and humans. However, transcripts were also seen in other tubular cells, notably intercalated cells, principal cells and injured proximal tubule cells. Though the podocyte expression makes sense, the relevance of the tubular expression to human disease is still an open question.
The data in support of mitochondrial dysfunction are also robust and rely on combined evidence from downregulation of transcripts involved in oxidative phosphorylation, decreases in complex I and II as determined by immunoblot, and assessments of respiratory capacity in tubular and glomerular preparations. These data are largely consistent with other preclinical renal injury model reported in the literature as well as previous, less thorough assessments in the Tg26 model.
Comments on latest version:
The authors have revised the manuscript to acknowledge the potential limitations of the C16 tool compound used and have performed some additional analyses that suggest the PT-Mito population can be identified in samples from KPMP. The authors added some control images for the in situ hybridizations, which are helpful, though they don't get to the core issue of limited resolution to determine whether mitochondrial RNA is present in the nuclei of injured PT cells. Some additional work has been done to show that C16 treatment results in a decrease in phospho-PKR, a readout of PKR inhibition. These changes strengthen the manuscript by providing some evidence for the translatability of the PT-mito cluster to humans and some evidence for on-target activity for C16. It would be helpful if the authors could quantify the numbers of cells in IHC with nuclear transcripts as well as pointing out some specific examples in the images provided, as comparator data for the snRNAseq studies in which 3-6% of cortex cells had evidence of nuclear mitochondrial transcripts.
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Reviewer #2 (Public Review):
Summary:
Numerous studies by the authors and other groups have demonstrated an important role for HIV gene expression kidney cells in promoting progressive chronic kidney disease, especially HIV associated nephropathy. The authors had previously demonstrated a role for protein kinase R (PKR) in a non-HIV transgenic model of kidney disease (Okamoto, Commun Bio, 2021). In this study, the authors used innovative techniques including bulk and single nuclear RNAseq to demonstrate that mice expressing a replication-incompetent HIV transgene have prominent dysregulation of mitochondrial gene expression and activation of PKR and that treatment of these mice with a small molecule PKR inhibitor ameliorated the kidney disease phenotype in HIV-transgenic mice. They also identified STAT3 as a key upstream regulator of kidney injury in this model, which is consistent with previously published studies. Other important advances include identifying the kidney cell types that express the HIV transgene and have dysregulation of cellular pathways.
Strengths:
Major strengths of the study include the use of a wide variety of state-of-the-art molecular techniques to generate important new data on the pathogenesis of kidney injury in this commonly used model of kidney disease and the identification of PKR as a potential druggable target for the treatment of HIV-induced kidney disease. The authors also identify a potential novel cell type within the kidney characterized by high expression of mitochondrial genes.
Weaknesses:
Though the HIV-transgenic model used in these studies results in a phenotype that is very similar to HIV-associated nephropathy in humans, the model has several limitations that may prevent direct translation to human disease, including the fact that mice lack several genetic factors that are important contributors to HIV and kidney pathogenesis in humans. Additional studies are therefore needed to confirm these findings in human kidney disease.
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Reviewer #1 (Public Review):
This study is convincing because they performed time-resolved X-ray crystallography under different pH conditions using active/inactive metal ions and PpoI mutants, as with the activity measurements in solution in conventional enzymatic studies. Although the reaction mechanism is simple and maybe a little predictable, the strength of this study is that they were able to validate that PpoI catalyzes DNA hydrolysis through "a single divalent cation" because time-resolved X-ray study often observes transient metal ions which are important for catalysis but are not predictable in previous studies with static structures such as enzyme-substrate analog-metal ion complexes. The discussion of this study is well supported by their data. This study visualized the catalytic process and mutational effects on catalysis, providing a new insight into the catalytic mechanism of I-PpoI through a single divalent cation. The authors found that His98, a candidate of proton acceptor in the previous experiments, also affects the Mg2+ binding for catalysis without the direct interaction between His98 and the Mg2+ ion, suggesting that "Without a proper proton acceptor, the metal ion may be prone for dissociation without the reaction proceeding, and thus stable Mg2+ binding was not observed in crystallo without His98". In the future, this interesting feature observed in I-PpoI should be investigated by biochemical, structural and computational analyses using other one metal-ion dependent nucleases.
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Reviewer #2 (Public Review):
Summary:
Most polymerases and nucleases use two or three divalent metal ions in their catalytic functions. The family of His-Me nucleases, however, use only one divalent metal ion, along with a conserved histidine, to catalyze DNA hydrolysis. The mechanism has been studied previously but, according to the authors, it remained unclear. By use of time resolved X-ray crystallography, this work convincingly demonstrated that only one M2+ ion is involved in the catalysis of the His-Me I-PpoI 19 nuclease, and proposed concerted functions of the metal and the histidine.
Strengths:
This work performs mechanistic studies, including the number and roles of metal ion, pH dependence, and activation mechanism, all by structural analyses, coupled with some kinetics and mutagenesis. Overall, it is a highly rigorous work. This approach was first developed in Science (2016) for a DNA polymerase, in which Yang Cao was the first author. It has subsequently been applied to just 5 to 10 enzymes by different labs, mainly to clarify two versus three metal ion mechanisms. The present study is the first one to demonstrate a single metal ion mechanism by this approach.<br /> Furthermore, on the basis of the quantitative correlation between the fraction of metal ion binding and the formation of product, as well as the pH dependence, and the data from site specific mutants, the authors concluded that the functions of Mg2+ and His are a concerted process. A detailed mechanism is proposed in Figure 6.<br /> Even though there are no major surprises in the results and conclusions, the time-resolved structural approach and the overall quality of the results represent a significant step forward for the Me-His family of nucleases. In addition, since the mechanism is unique among different classes of nucleases and polymerases, the work should be of interest to readers in DNA enzymology, or even mechanistic enzymology in general.
Weaknesses:
Two relatively minor issues are raised here for consideration by the authors:
p. 4, last para, lines 1-2: "we next visualized the entire reaction process by soaking I-PpoI crystals in buffer....". This is a little over-stated. The structures being observed are not reaction intermediates. They are mixtures of substrates and products in the enzyme-bound state. The progress of the reaction is limited by the progress of soaking of the metal ion. Crystallography is just been used as a tool to monitor the reaction (and provide structural information about the product). It would be more accurate to say that "we next monitored the reaction progress by soaking...."
p. 5, beginning of the section. The authors on one hand emphasized the quantitative correlation between Mg ion density and the product density. On the other hand, they raised the uncertainty in the quantitation of Mg2+ density versus Na+ density, thus they repeated the study with Mn2+ which has distinct anomalous signals. This is a very good approach. However, still no metal ion density is shown in the key figure 2A. It will be clearer to show the progress of metal ion density in a figure (in addition to just plots), whether it is Mg or Mn.
Revised version: The authors have properly revised the paper in response to both questions raised in the weakness section. The first issue is an important clarification for others working on similar approaches also. For the second issue, the metal ion density is nicely shown in Fig. S4 now.
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Reviewer #1 (Public Review):
Zheng et al. study the 'glass' transitions that occurs in proteins at ca. 200K using neutron diffraction and differential isotopic labeling (hydrogen/deuterium) of the protein and solvent. To overcome limitations in previous studies, this work is conducted in parallel with 4 proteins (myoglobin, cytochrome P450, lysozyme and green fluorescent protein) and experiments were performed at a range of instrument time resolutions (1ns - 10ps). The author's data looks compelling, and suggests that transitions in the protein and solvent behavior are not coupled and contrary to some previous reports, the apparent water transition temperature is a 'resolution effect'; i.e. instrument response is limited. This is likely to be important in the field, as a reassessment of solvent 'slaving' and the role of the hydration shell on protein dynamics should be reassessed in light of these findings.
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Reviewer #2 (Public Review):
Summary:
The manuscript entitled "Decoupling of the Onset of Anharmonicity between a Protein and Its Surface Water around 200 K" by Zheng et al. presents a neutron scattering study trying to elucidate if at the dynamical transition temperature water and protein motions are coupled. The origin of the dynamical transition temperature has been debated for decades, specifically its relation to hydration.
The study is rather well conducted, with a lot of effort to acquire the perdeuterated proteins, and some results are interesting.
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Reviewer #1 (Public Review):<br /> Summary:
Zhu et al., investigate the cellular defects in glia as a result of loss in DEGS1/ifc encoding the dihydroceramide desaturase. Using the strength of Drosophila and its vast genetic toolkit, they find that DEGS1/ifc is mainly expressed in glia and its loss leads to profound neurodegeneration. This supports a role for DEGS1 in the developing larval brain as it safeguards proper CNS development. Loss of DEGS1/ifc leads to dihydroceramide accumulation in the CNS and induces alteration in the morphology of glial subtypes and a reduction in glial number. Cortex and ensheathing glia appeared swollen and accumulated internal membranes. Astrocyte-glia on the other hand displayed small cell bodies, reduced membrane extension and disrupted organization in the dorsal ventral nerve cord. They also found that DEGS1/ifc localizes primarily to the ER. Interestingly, the authors observed that loss of DEGS1/ifc drives ER expansion and reduced TGs and lipid droplet numbers. No effect on PC and PE and a slight increase in PS.
The conclusions of this paper are well supported by the data. The study could be further strengthened by a few additional controls and/or analyses.
Strengths:
This is an interesting study that provides new insight into the role of ceramide metabolism in neurodegeneration.
The strength of the paper is the generation of LOF lines, the insertion of transgenes and the use of the UAS-GAL4/GAL80 system to assess the cell-autonomous effect of DEGS1/ifc loss in neurons and different glial subtypes during CNS development.
The imaging, immunofluorescence staining and EM of the larval brain and the use of the optical lobe and the nerve cord as a readout are very robust and nicely done.
Drosophila is a difficult model to perform core biochemistry and lipidomics but the authors used the whole larvae and CNS to uncover global changes in mRNA levels related to lipogenesis and the unfolded protein responses as well as specific lipid alterations upon DEGS1/ifc loss.
Weaknesses:
The authors performed lipidomics and RTqPCR on whole larvae and larval CNS from which it is impossible to define the cell type-specific effects. Ideally, this could be further supported by performing single cell RNAseq on larval brains to tease apart the cell-type specific effect of DEGS1/ifc loss.
It's clear from the data that the accumulation of dihydroceramide in the ER triggers ER expansion but it remains unclear how or why this happens. Additionally, the authors assume that, because of the reduction in LD numbers, that the source of fatty acids comes from the LDs. But there is no data testing this directly.
The authors performed a beautiful EMS screen identifying several LOF alleles in ifc. However, the authors decided to only use KO/ifcJS3. The paper could be strengthened if the authors could replicate some of the key findings in additional fly lines.
The authors use M{3xP3-RFP.attP}ZH-51D transgene as a general glial marker. However, it would be advised to show the % overlap between the glial marker and the RFP since a lot of cells are green positive but not perse RFP positive and vice versa.
The authors indicate that other 3xP3 RFP and GFP transgenes at other genomic locations also label most glia in the CNE. Do they have a preferential overlap with the different glial subtypes?
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Reviewer #2 (Public Review):
Summary:<br /> The manuscript by Zhu et al. describes phenotypes associated with the loss of the gene ifc using a Drosophila model. The authors suggest their findings are relevant to understanding the molecular underpinnings of a neurodegenerative disorder, HLD-18, which is caused by mutations in the human ortholog of ifc, DEGS1.<br /> The work begins with the authors describing the role for ifc during fly larval brain development, demonstrating its function in regulating developmental timing, brain size, and ventral nerve cord elongation. Further mechanistic examination revealed that loss of ifc leads to depleted cellular ceramide levels as well as dihydroceramide accumulation, eventually causing defects in ER morphology and function. Importantly, the authors showed that ifc is predominantly expressed in glia and is critical for maintaining appropriate glial cell numbers and morphology. Many of the key phenotypes caused by the loss of fly ifc can be rescued by overexpression of human DEGS1 in glia, demonstrating the conserved nature of these proteins as well as the pathways they regulate. Interestingly, the authors discovered that the loss of lipid droplet formation in ifc mutant larvae within the cortex glia, presumably driving the deficits in glial wrapping around axons and subsequent neurodegeneration, potentially shedding light on mechanisms of HLD-18 and related disorders.
Strengths:<br /> Overall, the manuscript is thorough in its analysis of ifc function and mechanism. The data images are high quality, the experiments are well controlled, and the writing is clear.
Weaknesses:<br /> (1) The authors clearly demonstrated a reduction in number of glia in the larval brains of ifc mutant flies. What remains unclear is whether ifc loss leads to glial apoptosis or a failure for glia to proliferate during development. The authors should distinguish between these two hypotheses using apoptotic markers and cell proliferation markers in glia.
(2) It is surprising that human DEGS1 expression in glia rescues the noted phenotypes despite the different preference for sphingoid backbone between flies and mammals. Though human DEGS1 rescued the glial phenotypes described, can animal lethality be rescued by glial expression of human DEGS1? Are there longer-term effects of loss of ifc that cannot be compensated by the overexpression of human DEGS1 in glia (age-dependent neurodegeneration, etc.)?
(3) The mechanistic link between the loss of ifc and lipid droplet defects is missing. How do defects in ceramide metabolism alter triglyceride utilization and storage? While the author's argument that the loss of lipid droplets in larval glia will lead to defects in neuronal ensheathment, a discussion of how this is linked to ceramides needs to be added.
(4) On page 10, the authors use the words "strong" and "weak" to describe where ifc is expressed. Since the use of T2A-GAL4 alleles in examining gene expression is unable to delineate the amount of gene expression from a locus, the terms "broad" and "sparse" labeling (or similar terms) should be used instead.
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Reviewer #3 (Public Review):
Summary:<br /> In this manuscript, the authors report three novel ifc alleles: ifc[js1], ifc[js2], and ifc[js3]. ifc[js1] and ifc[js2] encode missense mutations, V276D and G257S, respectively. ifc[js3] encodes a nonsense mutation, W162*. These alleles exhibit multiple phenotypes, including delayed progression to the late-third larval instar stage, reduced brain size, elongation of the ventral nerve cord, axonal swelling, and lethality during late larval or early pupal stages.<br /> Further characterization of these alleles the authors reveals that ifc is predominantly expressed in glia and localizes to the endoplasmic reticulum (ER). The expression of ifc gene governs glial morphology and survival. Expression of fly ifc cDNA or human DEGS1 cDNA specifically in glia, but not neurons, rescues the CNS phenotypes of ifc mutants, indicating a crucial role for ifc in glial cells and its evolutionary conservation. Loss of ifc results in ER expansion and loss of lipid droplets in cortex glia. Additionally, loss of ifc leads to ceramide depletion and accumulation of dihydroceramide. Moreover, it increases the saturation levels of triacylglycerols and membrane phospholipids. Finally, the reduction of dihydroceramide synthesis suppresses the CNS phenotypes associated with ifc mutations, indicating the key role of dihydroceramide in causing ifc LOF defects.
Strengths:<br /> This manuscript unveils several intriguing and novel phenotypes of ifc loss-of-function in glia. The experiments are meticulously planned and executed, with the data strongly supporting their conclusions.
Weaknesses:<br /> I didn't find any obvious weakness.
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Reviewer #1 (Public Review):
Summary:
The authors present a theoretical treatment of what they term the "Wright-Fisher-Haldane" model, a claimed modification of the standard model of genetic drift that accounts for variability in offspring number, and argue that it resolves a number of paradoxes in molecular evolution. Ultimately, I found this manuscript quite strange. The notion of effective population size as inversely related to the variance in offspring number is well known in the literature, and not exclusive to Haldane's branching process treatment. However, I found the authors' point about variance in offspring changing over the course of, e.g. exponential growth fairly interesting, and I'm not sure I'd seen that pointed out before. Nonetheless, I don't think the authors' modeling, simulations, or empirical data analysis are sufficient to justify their claims.
Weaknesses:
I have several outstanding issues. First of all, the authors really do not engage with the literature regarding different notions of an effective population. Most strikingly, the authors don't talk about Cannings models at all, which are a broad class of models with non-Poisson offspring distributions that nonetheless converge to the standard Wright-Fisher diffusion under many circumstances, and to "jumpy" diffusions/coalescents otherwise (see e.g. Mohle 1998, Sagitov (2003), Der et al (2011), etc.). Moreover, there is extensive literature on effective population sizes in populations whose sizes vary with time, such as Sano et al (2004) and Sjodin et al (2005). Of course in many cases here the discussion is under neutrality, but it seems like the authors really need to engage with this literature more.
The most interesting part of the manuscript, I think, is the discussion of the Density Dependent Haldane model (DDH). However, I feel like I did not fully understand some of the derivation presented in this section, which might be my own fault. For instance, I can't tell if Equation 5 is a result or an assumption - when I attempted a naive derivation of Equation 5, I obtained E(K_t) = 1 + r/c*(c-n)*dt. It's unclear where the parameter z comes from, for example. Similarly, is equation 6 a derivation or an assumption? Finally, I'm not 100% sure how to interpret equation 7. I that a variance effective size at time t? Is it possible to obtain something like a coalescent Ne or an expected number of segregating sites or something from this?
Similarly, I don't understand their simulations. I expected that the authors would do individual-based simulations under a stochastic model of logistic growth, and show that you naturally get variance in offspring number that changes over time. But it seems that they simply used their equations 5 and 6 to fix those values. Moreover, I don't understand how they enforce population regulation in their simulations---is N_t random and determined by the (independent) draws from K_t for each individual? In that case, there's no "interaction" between individuals (except abstractly, since logistic growth arises from a model that assumes interactions between individuals). This seems problematic for their model, which is essentially motivated by the fact that early during logistic growth, there are basically no interactions, and later there are, which increases variance in reproduction. But their simulations assume no interactions throughout!
The authors also attempt to show that changing variance in reproductive success occurs naturally during exponential growth using a yeast experiment. However, the authors are not counting the offspring of individual yeast during growth (which I'm sure is quite hard). Instead, they use an equation that estimates the variance in offspring number based on the observed population size, as shown in the section "Estimation of V(K) and E(K) in yeast cells". This is fairly clever, however, I am not sure it is right, because the authors neglect covariance in offspring between individuals. My attempt at this derivation assumes that I_t | I_{t-1} = \sum_{I=1}^{I_{t-1}} K_{i,t-1} where K_{i,t-1} is the number of offspring of individual i at time t-1. Then, for example, E(V(I_t | I_{t-1})) = E(V(\sum_{i=1}^{I_{t-1}} K_{i,t-1})) = E(I_{t-1})V(K_{t-1}) + E(I_{k-1}(I_{k-1}-1))*Cov(K_{i,t-1},K_{j,t-1}). The authors have the first term, but not the second, and I'm not sure the second can be neglected (in fact, I believe it's the second term that's actually important, as early on during growth there is very little covariance because resources aren't constrained, but at carrying capacity, an individual having offspring means that another individuals has to have fewer offspring - this is the whole notion of exchangeability, also neglected in this manuscript). As such, I don't believe that their analysis of the empirical data supports their claim.
Thus, while I think there are some interesting ideas in this manuscript, I believe it has some fundamental issues: first, it fails to engage thoroughly with the literature on a very important topic that has been studied extensively. Second, I do not believe their simulations are appropriate to show what they want to show. And finally, I don't think their empirical analysis shows what they want to show.
References:
Möhle M. Robustness results for the coalescent. Journal of Applied Probability. 1998;35(2):438-447. doi:10.1239/jap/1032192859
Sagitov S. Convergence to the coalescent with simultaneous multiple mergers. Journal of Applied Probability. 2003;40(4):839-854. doi:10.1239/jap/1067436085
Der, Ricky, Charles L. Epstein, and Joshua B. Plotkin. "Generalized population models and the nature of genetic drift." Theoretical population biology 80.2 (2011): 80-99
Sano, Akinori, Akinobu Shimizu, and Masaru Iizuka. "Coalescent process with fluctuating population size and its effective size." Theoretical population biology 65.1 (2004): 39-48
Sjodin, P., et al. "On the meaning and existence of an effective population size." Genetics 169.2 (2005): 1061-1070
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Reviewer #2 (Public Review):
Summary:
This theoretical paper examines genetic drift in scenarios deviating from the standard Wright-Fisher model. The authors discuss Haldane's branching process model, highlighting that the variance in reproductive success equates to genetic drift. By integrating the Wright-Fisher model with the Haldane model, the authors derive theoretical results that resolve paradoxes related to effective population size.
Strengths:
The most significant and compelling result from this paper is perhaps that the probability of fixing a new beneficial mutation is 2s/V(K). This is an intriguing and potentially generalizable discovery that could be applied to many different study systems.
The authors also made a lot of effort to connect theory with various real-world examples, such as genetic diversity in sex chromosomes and reproductive variance across different species.
Weaknesses:
One way to define effective population size is by the inverse of the coalescent rate. This is where the geometric mean of Ne comes from. If Ne is defined this way, many of the paradoxes mentioned seem to resolve naturally. If we take this approach, one could easily show that a large N population can still have a low coalescent rate depending on the reproduction model. However, the authors did not discuss Ne in light of the coalescent theory. This is surprising given that Eldon and Wakeley's 2006 paper is cited in the introduction, and the multiple mergers coalescent was introduced to explain the discrepancy between census size and effective population size, superspreaders, and reproduction variance - that said, there is no explicit discussion or introduction of the multiple mergers coalescent.
The Wright-Fisher model is often treated as a special case of the Cannings 1974 model, which incorporates the variance in reproductive success. This model should be discussed. It is unclear to me whether the results here have to be explained by the newly introduced WFH model, or could have been explained by the existing Cannings model.
The abstract makes it difficult to discern the main focus of the paper. It spends most of the space introducing "paradoxes".
The standard Wright-Fisher model makes several assumptions, including hermaphroditism, non-overlapping generations, random mating, and no selection. It will be more helpful to clarify which assumptions are being violated in each tested scenario, as V(K) is often not the only assumption being violated. For example, the logistic growth model assumes no cell death at the exponential growth phase, so it also violates the assumption about non-overlapping generations.
The theory and data regarding sex chromosomes do not align. The fact that \hat{alpha'} can be negative does not make sense. The authors claim that a negative \hat{alpha'} is equivalent to infinity, but why is that? It is also unclear how theta is defined. It seems to me that one should take the first principle approach e.g., define theta as pairwise genetic diversity, and start with deriving the expected pair-wise coalescence time under the MMC model, rather than starting with assuming theta = 4Neu. Overall, the theory in this section is not well supported by the data, and the explanation is insufficient.
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Reviewer #3 (Public Review):
Summary:
Ruan and colleagues consider a branching process model (in their terminology the "Haldane model") and the most basic Wright-Fisher model. They convincingly show that offspring distributions are usually non-Poissonian (as opposed to what's assumed in the Wright-Fisher model), and can depend on short-term ecological dynamics (e.g., variance in offspring number may be smaller during exponential growth). The authors discuss branching processes and the Wright-Fisher model in the context of 3 "paradoxes": (1) how Ne depends on N might depend on population dynamics; (2) how Ne is different on the X chromosome, the Y chromosome, and the autosomes, and these differences do match the expectations base on simple counts of the number of chromosomes in the populations; (3) how genetic drift interacts with selection. The authors provide some theoretical explanations for the role of variance in the offspring distribution in each of these three paradoxes. They also perform some experiments to directly measure the variance in offspring number, as well as perform some analyses of published data.
Strengths:
(1) The theoretical results are well-described and easy to follow.
(2) The analyses of different variances in offspring number (both experimentally and analyzing public data) are convincing that non-Poissonian offspring distributions are the norm.
(3) The point that this variance can change as the population size (or population dynamics) change is also very interesting and important to keep in mind.
(4) I enjoyed the Density-Dependent Haldane model. It was a nice example of the decoupling of census size and effective size.
Weaknesses:
(1) I am not convinced that these types of effects cannot just be absorbed into some time-varying Ne and still be well-modeled by the Wright-Fisher process.
(2) Along these lines, there is well-established literature showing that a broad class of processes (a large subset of Cannings' Exchangeable Models) converge to the Wright-Fisher diffusion, even those with non-Poissonian offspring distributions (e.g., Mohle and Sagitov 2001). E.g., equation (4) in Mohle and Sagitov 2001 shows that in such cases the "coalescent Ne" should be (N-1) / Var(K), essentially matching equation (3) in the present paper.
(3) Beyond this, I would imagine that branching processes with heavy-tailed offspring distributions could result in deviations that are not well captured by the authors' WFH model. In this case, the processes are known to converge (backward-in-time) to Lambda or Xi coalescents (e.g., Eldon and Wakely 2006 or again in Mohle and Sagitov 2001 and subsequent papers), which have well-defined forward-in-time processes.
(4) These results that Ne in the Wright-Fisher process might not be related to N in any straightforward (or even one-to-one) way are well-known (e.g., Neher and Hallatschek 2012; Spence, Kamm, and Song 2016; Matuszewski, Hildebrandt, Achaz, and Jensen 2018; Rice, Novembre, and Desai 2018; the work of Lounès Chikhi on how Ne can be affected by population structure; etc...)
(5) I was also missing some discussion of the relationship between the branching process and the Wright-Fisher model (or more generally Cannings' Exchangeable Models) when conditioning on the total population size. In particular, if the offspring distribution is Poisson, then conditioned on the total population size, the branching process is identical to the Wright-Fisher model.
(6) In the discussion, it is claimed that the last glacial maximum could have caused the bottleneck observed in human populations currently residing outside of Africa. Compelling evidence has been amassed that this bottleneck is due to serial founder events associated with the out-of-Africa migration (see e.g., Henn, Cavalli-Sforza, and Feldman 2012 for an older review - subsequent work has only strengthened this view). For me, a more compelling example of changes in carrying capacity would be the advent of agriculture ~11kya and other more recent technological advances.
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The study presented by Paoli et al. explores temporal aspects of neuronal encoding of odors and their perception, using bees as a general model for insects. The neuronal encoding of the presence of an odor is not a static representation; rather, its neuronal representation is partly encoded by the temporal order in which parallel olfactory pathways participate and are combined. This aspect is not novel, and its relevance in odor encoding and recognition has been discussed for more than the past 20 years.
The temporal richness of the olfactory code and its significance have traditionally been driven by results obtained based on electrophysiological methods with temporal resolution, allowing the identification and timing of the action potentials in the different populations of neurons whose combination encodes the identity of an odor. On the other hand, optophysiological methods that enable spatial resolution and cell identification in odor coding lack the temporal resolution to appreciate the intricacies of olfactory code dynamics.
(1) In this context, the main merit of Paoli et al.'s work is achieving an optical recording that allows for spatial registration of olfactory codes with greater temporal detail than the classical method and, at the same time, with greater sensitivity to measure inhibitions as part of the olfactory code.
The work clearly demonstrates how the onset and offset of odor stimulation triggers a dynamic code at the level of the first interneurons of the olfactory system that changes at every moment as a natural consequence of the local inhibitory interactions within the first olfactory neuropil, the antennal lobe. This gives rise to the interesting theory that each combination of activated neurons along this temporal sequence corresponds to the perception of a different odor. The extent to which the corresponding postsynaptic layers integrate this temporal information to drive the perception of an odor, or whether this sequence is, in a sense, a journey through different perceptions, is challenging to address experimentally.
In their work, the authors propose a computational approach and olfactory learning experiments in bees to address these questions and evaluate whether the sequence of combinations drives a sequence of different perceptions. In my view, it is a highly inspiring piece of work that still leaves several questions unanswered.
(2) In my opinion, the detailed temporal profile of the response of projection neurons and their respective probabilities of occurrence provide valuable information for understanding odor coding at the level of neurons transferring information from the antennal lobes to the mushroom bodies. An analysis of these probabilities in each animal, rather than in the population of animals that were measured, would aid in better comprehending the encoding function of such temporal profiles. Being able to identify the involved glomeruli and understanding the extent to which the sequence of patterns and inhibitions is conserved for each odor across different animals, as it is well known for the initial excitatory burst of activity observed in previous studies without the fine temporal detail, would also be highly significant.
In my view, the computational approach serves as a useful tool to inspire future experiments; however, it appears somewhat simplistic in tackling the complexity of the subject. One question that I believe the researchers do not address is to what extent the inhibitions recorded in the projection neurons are integrated by the Kenyon cells and are functional for generating odor-specific patterns at that level.
Lastly, the behavioral result indicating a difference in conditioned response latency after early or delayed learning protocol is interesting. However, it does not align with the expected time for the neuronal representation that was theoretically rewarded in the delayed protocol. This final result does not support the authors' interpretation regarding the existence of a smell and an after-smell as separate percepts that can serve as conditioned stimuli.
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Summary:<br /> The manuscript describes a series of experiments using human intracranial neural recordings designed to evaluate processing of self-generated speech in the setting of feedback delays. Specifically, the authors aim to address the question about the relationship between speech-induced suppression and feedback sensitivity in the auditory cortex, which, relationship has been conflicting in the literature. They found a correlation between speech suppression and feedback delay sensitivity, suggesting a common process. Additional controls were done for possible forward suppression/adaptation, as well as controlling for other confounds due to amplification, etc.
Strengths:<br /> The primary strength of the manuscript is the use of human intracranial recording, which is a valuable resource and gives better spatial and temporal resolution than many other approaches. The use of delayed auditory feedback is also novel and has seen less attention than other forms of shifted feedback during vocalization. Analyses are robust and include demonstrating a scaling of neural activity with the degree of feedback delay, more robust evidence for error encoding than simply using a single feedback perturbation.
Weaknesses:<br /> Some of the analyses performed differ from those used in past work, which limits the ability to directly compare the results. Notably, past work has compared feedback effects between production and listening, which was not done here. There were also some unusual effects in the data, such as increased activity with no feedback delay when wearing headphones, that the authors attempted to control for with additional experiments, but remain unclear. Confounds by behavioral results of delayed feedback are also unclear.
Overall the work is well done and clearly explained. The manuscript addresses an area of some controversy and does so in a rigorous fashion, namely the correlation between speech-induced suppression and feedback sensitivity (or lack thereof). While the data presented overlap that collected and used for a previous paper, this is expected given the rare commodity these neural recordings represent. Contrasting these results to previous ones using pitch-shifted feedback should spawn additional discussion and research, including verification of the previous finding, looking at how the brain encodes feedback during speech over multiple acoustic dimensions, and how this information can be used in speech motor control.
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Summary:<br /> In "Speech-induced suppression and vocal feedback sensitivity in human cortex", Ozker and colleagues use intracranial EEG to understand audiomotor feedback during speech production using a speech production and delayed auditory feedback task. The purpose of the paper is to understand where and how speaker induced suppression occurs, and whether this suppression might be related to feedback monitoring. First, they identified sites that showed auditory suppression during speech production using a single word auditory repetition task and a visual reading task, then observed whether and how these electrodes show sensitivity to auditory feedback using a DAF paradigm. The stimuli were single words played auditorily or shown visually and repeated or read aloud by the participant. Neural data were recorded from regular- and high-density grids from the left and right hemisphere. The main findings were:<br /> • Speaker induced suppression is strongest in the STG and MTG, and enhancement is generally seen in frontal/motor areas except for small regions of interest in dorsal sensorimotor cortex and IFG, which can also show suppression.<br /> • Delayed auditory feedback, even when simultaneous, induces larger response amplitudes compared to the typical auditory word repetition and visual reading tasks. The authors presume this may be due to effort and attention required to perform the DAF task.<br /> • The degree of speaker induced suppression is correlated with sensitivity to delayed auditory feedback, and is strongest for ~200 ms of delayed auditory feedback.<br /> • pSTG (behind TTS) is more strongly modulated by DAF than mid-anterior STG
Strengths:<br /> Overall, I found the manuscript to be clear, the methodology and statistics to be solid, and the findings mostly quite robust. The large number of participants with high density coverage over both the left and right lateral hemispheres allows for a greater dissection of the topography of speaker induced suppression and changes due to audiomotor feedback. The tasks were well-designed and controlled for repetition suppression and other potential caveats.
Weaknesses:<br /> I am happy with the changes the authors made in response to my first round of comments.
The authors addressed my comments relating to plotting relative to the onset of articulation in Figure 1 and also addressed whether the amount of suppression varies according to more interfering delayed auditory feedback (though the correlations between sensitivity and suppression are a little noisy, they are positive). Finally, I am also satisfied with the inclusion of more group data in Figure 4.
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Summary:
The authors want to elucidate which are the mechanisms that regulate the immune response in physiological conditions in cortical development. To achieve this goal, authors used a wide range of mutant mice to analyse the consequences of immune activation in the formation of cortical ectopia in mice.
Strengths:
The authors demonstrated that Abeta monomers are anti-inflammatory and inhibit microglial activation. This is a novel result that demonstrates the physiological role of APP in cortical development.
Weaknesses:
-On the other hand, cortical ectopia has been already described in mouse models in which the amyloid signalling has been disrupted (Herms et al., 2004; Guenette et al., 2006), making the current study less novel.
One of the molecules analysed is Ric8a, a GTPase activator involved in neuronal development. Authors used the conditional mutant mice Emx1-Ric8a to delete Ric8a from early progenitors and glutamatergic neurons in the pallium. Emx1-Ric8a mutant mice present cortical ectopias and authors attributed this malformation to the increase in inflammatory response due to Ric8a deletion in microglia. Several discordances do not fit this interpretation:
-The role of Ric8a in cortical development and function has been already described in several papers, but none of them has been cited in the current manuscript (Kask et al., 2015, 2018; Ruisu et al., 2013; Tonissoo et al., 2006).
-Ectopia formation in the cortex has been already described in Nestin-Ric8a cKO mice (Kask et al., 2015). In the current manuscript, authors analyzed the same mutant mice (Nestin-Ric8a), but they did not detect any ectopia. Authors should discuss this discordance.
-Authors claim that microglia express Emx1, and therefore, Ric8a is deleted in microglia cells. However, the arguments for this assumption are very weak and the evidence suggests that this is not the case. This is an important point considering that authors want to emphasise the role of Ric8a in microglia activation, and therefore, additional experiments should demonstrate that Ric8a is deleted in microglia in Emx1-Ric8a mutant mice.
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Kwon et al. used several conditional KO mice for the deletion of ric8a or app in different cell types. Some of them exhibited pial basement membrane breaches leading to neuronal ectopia in the neocortex.
They first investigated ric8a, a Guanine Nucleotide Exchange Factor for Heterotrimeric G Proteins. They observed the above-mentioned phenotype when ric8a is deleted from microglia and neural cells (ric8a-emx1-cre or dual deletion with cre combination cx3cr1 (in microglia) and nestin (in neural cells)) but not in microglia alone or neural cells alone (whether it is in CR cells (ric8a-Wnt3a-cre), post-mitotic neurons (nex-cre or dlx5/6-cre), or in progenitors and their progeny (nestin-cre or foxg1-cre). They also show that ric8a KO mutant microglia cells stimulated in vitro by LPS exhibit an increased TNFa, IL6 and IL1b secretion compared to controls (Fig 2). They therefore injected LPS in vivo and observed the neuronal ectopia phenotype in the ric8a-cx3cr1-cre (microglial deletion) cortices at P0 (Fig 2). They suggest that ric8a KO in neuronal cells mimics immune stimulation (but we have no clue how ric8a KO in neural cells would induce immune stimulation).
The authors then turned their attention on APP. They observed neuronal ectopia into the marginal zone when APP is deleted in microglia (app-cxcr3-cre) + intraperitoneal LPS injection (they did not show it, but we have to assume there would not be a phenotype without the injection of LPS) (Fig 3). (The phenotype is similar but not identical to ric8a-cx3cr1-cre + LPS. They suggest that the reason is because they had to inject 3 times less LPS due to enhanced immune sensitivity in this genetic background but it is only a hypothesis). After in vitro stimulation by LPS, app mutant microglia show a reduced secretion of TNFa and IL6 but not IL1b (this is the opposite to ric8a-cx3cr1-cre microglia cells) while peritoneal macrophages in culture show increased secretion of TNFa, IL1, IL6 and IL23 (fig 3 and Suppl. Fig 9).
Amyloid beta (Ab) being one of the molecules binding to APP, the authors showed that Ab40 monomers (they did not test Ab40 oligomers) partially inhibit cytokines (TNFa, IL6, IL1b, MCP-1, IL23a, IL10) secretion in vitro by microglia stimulated by LPS but does not affect secretion by microglia from app-cx3cr1-cre (tested for TNFa, IL6, IL1b, IL23a, IL10) (Fig 4, Suppl fig 10) (but still does it in aplp2-cx3cr1-cre) and does not affect secretion by ric8a-cx3cr1-cre microglia (tested for TNFa and IL6 but still suppress IL1b) (Therefore here is another difference between app and ric8a KO microglia).
The authors injected inhibitors of Akt or Stat3 in the ric8a-emx1-cre cortex and found it suppressed neuronal ectopia (Fig 5, Suppl fig 11). It is not clear whether it suppresses immune stimulation from neuronal cells or immune reaction from microglia cells.
Finally, the authors examined the activities of MMP2 and MMP9 in the developing cortex using gelatin gel zymography. The activity and protein levels of MMP9 but not MMP2 in the ric8a-emx1-cre cortex were claimed significantly increased (Fig 5, Suppl fig 12). Unfortunately, they did not show it in the app-cx3cr1-cre +LPS mouse. They make a connection between ric8a deletion and MMP9 but unfortunately do not make the connection between app deletion and MMP9, which is at the center of the pathway claimed to be important here). Then they injected BB94, a broad-spectrum inhibitor of MMPs or an inhibitor specific for MMP9 and 13. They both significantly suppress the number and the size of the ectopia in ric8a mutants (Fig5).
After reading the manuscript, I still do not know how ric8a in neural cells is involved in the immune inhibition. Is it through the control of Ab monomers? In addition, the authors did not show in vivo data supporting that Ab monomers are the key players here. As the authors said, this is not the only APP interactor. Finally, I still do not know how ric8a is linked to APP in microglia in the model.
While several of the findings presented in this manuscript are of potential interest, there are a number of shortcomings. Here are some suggestions that could improve the manuscript and help substantiate the conclusions:
(1) As the title suggests it, the focus is on Ab and APP functions in microglia. However, the analysis is more focused on ric8a. The connection between ric8a and APP in this study is not investigated, besides the fact that their deletion induces somewhat similar but not identical phenotypes. Showing a similar phenotype is not enough to conclude that they are working on the same pathway. The authors should find a way to make that connection between ric8a and app in the cells investigated here.
(2) This would help to show the appearance of breaches in the pial basement membrane leading to neuronal ectopia; to investigate laminin debris, cell identity, Wnt pathway for app-cxcr3-cre + LPS injection as you did for ric8a-emx1-cre.
(3) As a control, this would help to show that app-cxcr3-cre without the LPS injection does not display the phenotype.
(4) This would help to show the activity and protein levels of MMP9 and MMP2 and perform the rescue experiments with the inhibitors in the app-cx3cr1-cre cortex +LPS.
(5) Is MMP9 secreted by microglia cells or neural cells?
(6) The in vitro evidence indicates that one of the multiple APP interactors, ie Ab40 monomers, is less effective in suppressing the expression of some cytokines by microglia cells mutants for ric8a (TNFa and IL6 but still suppress IL1b) or APP (TNFa, IL6, IL1b, IL23a, IL10) when compared to WT. But there are other interactors for APP. In order to support the claim, it seems crucial to have in vivo data to show that Ab40 monomers are the molecules involved in preventing the breach in the pial basement membrane.
(7) In order to claim that this is specific to Ab40 monomers and not oligomers, it is necessary to show that the Ab40 oligomers do not have the same effect in vitro and in vivo. Also, an assay should be done to show that your Ab preparations are pure monomers or oligomers.
(8) Most of the cytokine secretion assays used microglia cells in culture. Two results draw my attention. Ric8a deletion increases TNFa and IL6 secretion after LPS stimulation in vitro on microglia cells while app deletion decreases their secretion. Then later, papers show that the decrease in IL1b induced by Ab on microglia cells is prevented by APP deletion but not ric8a deletion. Those two pieces of data suggest that ric8a and APP might not be in the same pathway. In addition, the phenotype from app-cxcr3-cre + LPS injection and ric8a-cxcr3-cre + LPS injection are not exactly the same. It could be due to the level of LPS as the author suggests or it might not be. More experiments are needed to prove they are in the same pathway.
(9) How do the authors reconcile the reduced TNFa and IL6 secretion upon stimulation of app mutant microglia with the model where app is attenuating immune response in vivo? Line 213 says that microglia exhibit attenuated immune response following chronic stimulation but I don't know if 3 hours of LPS in vitro is a chronic stimulation.
(10) Line 119: In their model, the authors suggest that there is a breach in pial basement membrane but that the phenotype is different from the retraction of the radial fibers due to reduced adhesion. So, could the author discuss to what substrate the radial fibers are attached to, in their model where the pial surface is destroyed?
(11) The authors should show that the increased cytokine secretion observed in vitro is also happening in vivo in ric8a-emx1-cre compared to WT mice and compared to ric8a-nestin-cre mice. Or when app is deleted in microglia (app-cxcr3-cre) + LPS injection compared to WT mice +LPS.
(12) The authors injected inhibitors of Akt or Stat3 in the ric8a-emx1-cre cortex and found that it suppressed neuronal ectopia (Fig 5, Suppl fig 11). Does it suppress immune stimulation from neuronal cells or immune reaction from microglia cells?
(13) Fig 5 and Supplementary fig 12: Please show a tubulin loading control in Fig 5i as you did in suppl fig 12 d (gel zymography). Please provide a gel zymography showing side by side Control, mutant and mutant +DM/S3I treatment. The same request for the MMP9 staining. Please provide statistics for control vs mutant for suppl fig 12c and d.
(14) Please provide the name and the source of the MMP9/13 inhibitor used in this study.
(15) The results show that deletion of ric8a in microglia and neural cells induced pia membrane breaches but no phenotype is apparent in ric8a deletion in microglia or neural cells alone. Then, the results showed that intraperitoneal injection of LPS induced the phenotype in ric8a-cxcr3-cre mutants. It would be beneficial as a control supporting the model to show that the insult induced by LPS injection does not induce the phenotype in the ric8a-foxg1-cre mice.
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Reviewer #1 (Public Review):
Summary:<br /> Meissner et al describe an update on the collection of split-GAL4 lines generated by a consortium led by Janelia Research Campus. This follows the same experimental pipeline described before and presents as a significant increment to the present collection. This will strengthen the usefulness and relevance of "splits" as a standard tool for labs that already use this tool and attract more labs and researchers to use it.
Strengths:<br /> This manuscript presents a solid step to establish Split-GAL4 lines as a relevant tool in the powerful Drosophila toolkit. Not only does the raw number of available lines contribute to the relevance of this tool in the "technical landscape" of genetic tools, but additional features of this effort contribute to the successful adoption. These include:<br /> (1) A description of expression patterns in the adult and larvae, expanding the "audience" for these tools<br /> (2) A classification of line combination according to quality levels, which provides a relevant criterion while deciding to use a particular set of "splits".<br /> (3) Discrimination between male and female expression patterns, providing hints regarding the potential role of these gender-specific circuits.<br /> (4) The search engine seems to be user-friendly, facilitating the retrieval of useful information.<br /> Overall, the authors employed a pipeline that maximizes the potential of the Split-GAL4 collection to the scientific community.
Weaknesses:<br /> The following aspects apply:<br /> The use of split-GAL4 lines has improved tremendously the genetic toolkit of Drosophila and this manuscript is another step forward in establishing this tool in the genetic repertoire that laboratories use. Thus, this would be a perfect opportunity for the authors to review the current status of this tool, addressing its caveats and how to effectively implement it into the experimental pipeline.
(1) While the authors do bring up a series of relevant caveats that the community should be aware of while using split-GAL4 lines, the authors should take the opportunity to address some of the genetic issues that frequently arise while using the described genetic tools. This is particularly important for laboratories that lack the experience using split-GAL4 lines and wish to use them. Some of these issues are covertly brought up, but not entirely clarified.<br /> First, why do the authors (wisely) rescreen the lines using UAS-CsChrimson-mVenus? One reason is that using another transgene (such as UAS-GFP) and/or another genomic locus can drive a different expression pattern or intensities. Although this is discussed, this should be made more explicit and the readers should be aware of this.<br /> Second, it would be important to include a discussion regarding the potential of hemidriver lines to suffer from transvection effects whenever there is a genetic element in the same locus. These are serious issues that prevent a more reliable use of split-GAL4 lines that, once again, should be discussed.
(2) The authors simply mention that the goal of the manuscript is to "summarize the results obtained over the past decade.". A better explanation would be welcomed in order to understand the need of a dedicated manuscript to announce the availability of a new batch of lines when previous publications already described the Split-GAL4 lines. At the extreme, one might question why we need a manuscript for this when a simple footnote on Janelia's website would suffice.
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Reviewer #3 (Public Review):
Summary:<br /> The manuscript by Meissner et al. describes a collection of 3060 Drosophila lines that can be used to genetically target very small numbers of brain cells. The collection is the product of over a decade of work by the FlyLight Project Team at the Janelia Research Campus and their collaborators. This painstaking work has used the intersectional split-Gal4 method to combine pairs of so-called hemidrivers into driver lines capable of highly refined expression, often targeting single cell types. Roughly one-third of the lines have been described and characterized in previous publications and others will be described in manuscripts still in preparation. They are brought together here with many new lines to form one high-quality collection of lines with exceptional selectivity of expression. As detailed in the manuscript, all of the lines described have been made publicly available accompanied by an online database of images and metadata that allow researchers to identify lines containing neurons of interest to them. Collectively, the lines include neurons in most regions of both the adult and larval nervous systems, and the imaging database is intended to eventually permit anatomical searching that can match cell types targeted by the lines to those identified at the EM level in emerging connectomes. In addition, the manuscript introduces a second, freely accessible database of raw imaging data for many lower quality, but still potentially useful, split-Gal4 driver lines made by the FlyLight Project Team.
Strengths:<br /> Both the stock collection and the image databases are substantial and important resources that will be of obvious interest to neuroscientists conducting research in Drosophila. Although many researchers will already be aware of the basic resources generated at Janelia, the comprehensive description provided in this manuscript represents a useful summary of past and recent accomplishments of the FlyLight Team and their collaborators and will be very valuable to newcomers in the field. In addition, the new lines being made available and the effort to collect all lines that have been generated that have highly specific expression patterns is very useful to all.
Weaknesses:<br /> The collection of lines presented here is obviously somewhat redundant in including lines from previously published collections. Potentially confusing is the fact that previously published split-Gal4 collections have also touted lines with highly selective expression, but only a fraction of those lines have been chosen for inclusion in the present manuscript. For example, the collection of Shuai et al. (2023) describes some 800 new lines, many with specificity for neurons with connectivity to the mushroom body, but only 168 of these lines were selected for inclusion here. This is presumably because of the more stringent criteria applied in selecting the lines described in this manuscript, but it would be useful to spell this out and explain what makes this collection different from those previously published (and those forthcoming).
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Reviewer #2 (Public Review):
Summary: This manuscript describes the creation and curation of a collection of genetic driver lines that specifically label small numbers of neurons, often just a single to handful of cell types, in the central nervous system of the fruit fly, Drosophila melanogaster. The authors screened over 77,000 split hemidriver combinations to yield a collection of 3060 lines targeting a range of cell types in the adult Drosophila central nervous system and 1373 lines characterized in third-instar larvae. These genetic driver lines have already contributed to several important publications and will no doubt continue to do so. It is a truly valuable resource that represents the cooperation of several labs throughout the Drosophila community.
Strengths:<br /> The authors have thoughtfully curated and documented the lines that they have created, so that they may be maximally useful to the greater community. This documentation includes confocal images of neurons labeled by each driver line and when possible, a list of cell types labeled by the genetic driver line and their identity in an EM connectome dataset. The authors have also made available some information from the other lines they created and tested but deemed not specific or strong enough to be included as part of the collection. This additional resource will be a valuable aid for those seeking to label cell types that may not be included in the main collection.
Weaknesses:<br /> None, this is a valuable set of tools that took many years of effort by several labs. This collection will continue to facilitate important science for years to come.
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Their findings elucidate the mechanisms underlying 2-AA-mediated reduction of pyruvate transport into mitochondria, which impairs the interaction between ERRα and PGC1α, consequently suppressing MPC1 expression and reducing ATP production in tolerized macrophages.
This paper presents a novel discovery regarding the mechanisms through which PA regulates the bioenergetics of tolerized macrophages. This paper will provide valuable insights for the journal's broad readership of scientists.
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Summary:
The study tries to connect energy metabolism with immune tolerance during bacterial infection. The mechanism details the role of pyruvate transporter expression via ERRalpha-PGC1 axis, resulting in pro-inflammatory TNF alpha signalling responsible for acquired infection tolerance.
Strengths:
Overall, the study is an excellent addition to the role of energy metabolism during bacterial infection. The mechanism-based approach in dissecting the roles of metabolic coactivator, transcription factor, mitochondrial transporter and pro-inflammatory cytokine during acquired tolerance towards infections indicates a detailed and well-written study. The in vivo studies in mice nicely corroborate with the cell line-based data, indicating the requirement for further studies in human infections with another bacterial model system.
Weakness:
Revised version doesn't have much weakness as authors have performed some of the critical experiments to answer the concerns. Moreover, authors promted that a few concerns like public data sets, etc are out of scope of this work or they will perform such experiments in future.
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Sumarac et al investigate differences in globus pallidus internus (GPi) spike activity and short- and long-term plasticity of direct pathway projections in patients with Parkinson's disease (PD) and dystonia. Their main claims are that GPi neurons exhibit distinct characteristics in these two disorders, with PD associated with specific power-frequency oscillations and dystonia showing lower firing rates, increased burstiness, and less regular activity. Additionally, long-term plasticity and synaptic depression appear to differ between the two conditions. The authors suggest that these findings support the concept of hyperfunctional GPi output in PD and hypofunctional output in dystonia, possibly driven by variations in plasticity of striato-pallidal synapses. Overall enthusiasm is relatively high, but I think the discussion omits discussing findings that don't align well with standard models.
Strengths:
- These types of studies are valuable as the data arise from patients who have dystonia or PD. This could provide unique insights into disease pathophysiology that might not be recapitulated in animal systems work.
Comments on latest version:
The authors addressed my concerns in their revision.
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Summary:
The authors investigated how neuronal activity and metrics of plasticity using local electrical stimulation in the GPi were different between Parkinson's disease and dystonia patients.
Strengths:
The authors achieved their aims of comparing the dynamics related to stimulation induced metrics of plasticity in GPi between dystonia and PD, which has not been previously explored. These results could directly inform DBS protocols to improve treatment. The methods are clearly described and results are strong with measurements from a large population of patients for each disease group, and with distinct findings for each group. These results also may help provide insight as to the differences in terms of dynamics of therapeutic stimulation effects in the different disease groups.
Weaknesses:
After the revisions, the discussion contains many more details and comparisons to relevant literature, which will be helpful for readers to appreciate the importance of the results. The conclusion could have been strengthened as well, as it seems to be a very general summary of their findings without consideration of their clinical implications and importance. However, this may be a minor issue.
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Summary:<br /> The authors aim to consider the effects of phonotactics on the effectiveness of memory reactivation during sleep. They have created artificial words that are either typical or atypical and showed that reactivation improves memory for the latter but not the former.
Strengths:<br /> This is an interesting design and a creative way of manipulating memory strength and typicality. In addition, the spectral analysis on both the wakefulness data and the sleep data is well done. The article is clearly written and provides a relevant and comprehensive of the literature and of how the results contribute to it.
Weaknesses:<br /> (1) Unlike most research involving artificial language or language in general, the task engaged in this manuscript did not require (or test) learning of meaning or translation. Instead, the artificial words were arbitrarily categorised and memory was tested for that categorisation. This somewhat limits the interpretation of the results as they pertain to language science, and qualifies comparisons with other language-related sleep studies that the manuscript builds on.
(2) Participants had to determine whether words are linked with reward or omission of punishment (if correctly categorised). Therefore, the task isn't a mere item categorisation task (group A/B), but also involves the complicated effects of reward (e.g., reward/loss asymmetries as predicted by prospect theory). This is not, in itself, a flaw, but there isn't a clear hypothesis as to the effects of reward on categorisation, and therefore no real justification for this design. This aspect of the task may add unneeded complexity (at best) or some reward-related contamination of the results (at worst).
(3) The study starts off with a sample size of N=39 but excludes 17 participants for some crucial analyses. This is a high number, and exclusion criteria were not pre-registered. Having said that, some criteria seem very reasonable (e.g., excluding participants who were not fully exposed to words during sleep).
(4) Relatedly, the final N is low for a between-subjects study (N=11 per group). This is adequately mentioned as a limitation, but since it does qualify the results, it seemed important to mention it here.
(5) The linguistic statistics used for establishing the artificial words are all based on American English, and are therefore in misalignment with the spoken language of the participants (which was German). This is a limitation of the study. The experimenters did not check whether participants were fluent in English. In all fairness, the behavioural effects presented in Figure 2A are convincing, providing a valuable manipulation test.
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Reviewer #2 (Public Review):
Summary:<br /> The work by Klaassen & Rasch investigates the influence of word learning difficulty on sleep-associated consolidation and reactivation. They elicited reactivation during sleep by applying targeted memory reactivation (TMR) and manipulated word learning difficulty by creating words more similar (easy) or more dissimilar (difficult) to our language.<br /> In one group of participants, they applied TMR of easy words and in another group of participants, they applied TMR of difficult words (between-subjects design).<br /> They showed that TMR leads to higher memory benefits in the easy compared to the difficult word group. On a neural level, they showed an increase in spindle power (in the up-state of an evoked response) when easy words were presented during sleep.
Strengths:<br /> The authors investigate a research question relevant to the field, that is, which experiences are actually consolidated during sleep. To address this question, they developed an innovative task and manipulated difficulty in an elegant way.
Overall, the paper is clearly structured, results and methods are described in an understandable way. The analyses approach is solid.
Weaknesses:<br /> (1) Sample size<br /> For a between-subjects design, the sample size is too small (N = 22). The main finding (also found in the title "Difficulty in artificial word learning impacts targeted memory reactivation") is based on an independent samples t-test with 11 participants/group.<br /> The authors explicitly mention the small sample size and the between-subjects design as a limitation in their discussion. Nevertheless, making meaningful inferences based on studies with such a small sample size is difficult.
(2) Choice of task<br /> Even though the task itself is innovative, there would have been tasks better suited to address the research question. The main disadvantage the task and the operationalisation of memory performance (d') have is that single-trial performance cannot be calculated. Consequently, choosing individual items for TMR is not possible.<br /> Additionally, TMR of low vs. high difficulty is conducted between subjects (and independently of pre-sleep memory performance) which is a consequence of the task design.
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Reviewer #3 (Public Review):
Summary:<br /> In this study, the authors investigated the effects of targeted memory reactivation (TMR) during sleep on memory retention for artificial words with varying levels of phonotactical similarity to real words. The authors report that the high phonotactic probability (PP) words showed a more pronounced EEG alpha decrease during encoding and were more easily learned than the low PP words. Following TMR during sleep, participants who had been cued with the high PP TMR, remembered those words better than 0, whilst no such difference was found in the other conditions. Accordingly, the authors report higher EEG spindle band power during slow-wave up-states for the high PP as compared to low PP TMR trials. Overall, the authors conclude that artificial words which are easier to learn benefit more from TMR than those which are difficult to learn.
Strengths:<br /> (1) The authors have carefully designed the artificial stimuli to investigate the effectiveness of TMR on words that are easy to learn and difficult to learn due to their levels of similarity with prior word-sound knowledge. Their approach of varying the level of phonotactic probability enables them to have better control over phonotactical familiarity than in a natural language and are thus able to disentangle which properties of word learning contribute to TMR success.
(2) The use of EEG during wakeful encoding and sleep TMR sheds new light on the neural correlates of high PP vs low PP both during wakeful encoding and cue-induced retrieval during sleep.
Weaknesses:<br /> (1) The present analyses are based on a small sample and comparisons between participants rather than within participants. Considering that the TMR benefits are based on changes in memory categorization between participants, it could be argued that the individuals in the high PP group were more susceptible to TMR than those in the low PP group for reasons other than the phonotactic probabilities of the stimuli (e.g., these individuals might be more attentive to sounds in the environment during sleep). While the authors acknowledge the small sample size and between-subjects comparison as a limitation, these results should be interpreted with caution.
Impact:<br /> This work is likely to contribute to the subfield of sleep and memory, and their experimental methods could provide a useful resource for those which investigate memory processing of linguistic material.
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Reviewer #1 (Public Review):
Summary:
The authors sought to understand the stage-dependent regulation of exophergenesis, a process thought to contribute to promoting neuronal proteostasis in C. elegans. Focusing on the ALMR neuron, they show that the frequency of exopher production correlates with the timing of reproduction. Using many genetic tools, they dissect the requirements of this pathway to eventually find that occupancy of the uterus acts as a signal to induce exophergenesis. Interestingly, the physical proximity of neurons to the egg zone correlates with exophergenesis frequency. The authors conclude that communication between the uterus and proximal neurons occurs through the sensing of mechanic forces of expansion normally provided by egg occupancy to coordinate exophergenesis with reproduction.
Strengths:
The genetic data presented is thorough and solid, and the observation is novel.
Weaknesses:
The authors have addressed the main weakness of the study in the revised manuscript, by providing data showing stimulation of exopher production in a single-copy transgenic line. Whether this process is related to the extrusion of cellular damage by the neurons in relatively young day 2 animals should be addressed in future studies.
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Reviewer #2 (Public Review):
Summary:
This paper reports that mechanical stress from egg accumulation is a biological stimulus that drives the formation of extruded vesicles from the neurons of C. elegans ALMR touch neurons. Using powerful genetic experiments only readily available in the C. elegans system, the authors manipulate oocyte production, fertilization, embryo accumulation, and egg-laying behavior, providing convincing evidence that exopher production is driven by stretch-dependent feedback of fertilized, intact eggs in the adult uterus. Shifting the timing of egg production and egg laying alters the onset of observed exophers. Pharmacological manipulation of egg laying has the predicted effects, with animals retaining fewer eggs having fewer exophers and animals with increased egg accumulation having more. The authors show that egg production and accumulation have dramatic consequences to the viscera, and moving the ALMR process away from eggs prevents the formation of exophers. This effect is not unique to ALMR but is also observed in other touch neurons, with a clear bias toward neurons whose cell bodies are adjacent to the filled uterus. Embryos lacking an intact eggshell with reduced rigidity have impaired exopher production. Acute injection into the uterus to mimic the stretch that accompanies egg production causes a similar induction of exopher release. Together these results are consistent with a model where stretch caused by fertilized embryo accumulation, and not chemical signals from the eggs themselves or egg release, underlies ALMR exopher production seen in adult animals.
Strengths:
Overall, the experiments are very convincing, using a battery of RNAi and mutant approaches to distinguish direct from indirect effects. Indeed, these experiments provide a model generally for how one would methodically test different models for exopher production. The source and factors influencing exopher production had previously been unclear. This study addresses how and when they form in the animal using physiologically meaningful manipulations. The stage is now set to address at a cellular level how exophers like these are made and what their functions are.
Weaknesses:
Not many. The experiments are about as good as could be done. Some of the n's on the more difficult to work strains or experiments are comparatively low, but this is not a significant concern because the number of different, complementary approaches used. The microinjection experiment is very interesting, and the authors have added additional details on how these experiments were conducted in the revised manuscript. The authors have now included data from strains bearing a single-copy transgene that expresses mKate2 in the same neurons, showing that induced egg accumulation drives a similar degree of exopher production. This indicates that exposers seen are generated in response to specific biological conditions and not merely an artifact of mCherry protein over-expression.
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Reviewer #3 (Public Review):
Summary:
In this paper, the authors use the C. elegans system to explore how already-stressed neurons respond to additional mechanical stress. Exophers are large extracellular vesicles secreted by cells, which can contain protein aggregates and organelles. These can be a way of getting rid of cellular debris, but as they are endocytosed by other cells can also pass protein, lipid, and RNA to recipient cells. The authors find that when the uterus fills with eggs or otherwise expands, a nearby neuron (ALMR) is far more likely to secrete exophers. This paper highlights the importance of the mechanical environment in the behavior of neurons and may be relevant to the response of neurons exposed to traumatic injury.
Strengths:
The paper has a logical flow and a compelling narrative supported by crisp and clear figures.
The evidence that egg accumulation leads to exopher production is strong. The authors use a variety of genetic and pharmacological methods to show that increasing pressure leads to more exopher production, and reducing pressure leads to lower exopher production. For example, egg-laying defective animals, which retain eggs in the uterus, produce many more exophers, and hyperactive egg-laying is accompanied by low exopher production. The authors even inject fluid into the uterus and observe the production of exophers.
Weaknesses:
The main weakness of the paper is that it does not explore the molecular mechanism by which the mechanical signals are received or responded to by the neuron. The authors are currently addressing this in their follow-up studies.
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Reviewer #1 (Public Review):
This study by Paoli et al. used a resonant scanning multiphoton microscope to examine olfactory representation in the projection neurons (PNs) of the honeybee with improved temporal resolution. PNs were classified into 9 groups based on their response patterns. Authors found that excitatory repose in the PNs precedes the inhibitory responses for ~40ms, and ~50% of PN responses contain inhibitory components. They built the neural circuit model of the mushroom body (MB) with evolutionally conserved features such as sparse representation, global inhibition, and a plasticity rule. This MB model fed with the experimental data could reproduce a number of phenomena observed in experiments using bees and other insects, including dynamical representations of odor onset and offset by different populations of Kenyon cells, prolonged representations of after-smell, different levels of odor-specificity for early/delay conditioning, and shift of behavioral timing in delay conditioning. The trace conditioning was also tested experimentally, although bees did not shift the timing of PER response to the post-odor period as the model predicted. The experimental data and the model provide a solid basis for future studies.
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Reviewer #1 (Public Review):
Summary:
The manuscript by Tuberosa et al outlines the generation of a new set of transgenic mice that express different recombinases specifically in Smim32 positive cells. They show that Smim32 is a useful marker of the mouse claustrum. Therefore, these mice could be useful for functional studies focused on measuring claustrum activity or manipulating the claustrum using optogenetic and pharmacogenetic tools.
Strengths:
The manuscript provides a new genetic approach to target claustrum neurons, using Smim32. The work may help future studies where claustrum excitatory neurons are measured or manipulated.
Weaknesses:
A toolbox is only useful if others can use it. Therefore, these mice should be made available to the community through commercial vendors. Without this added step, this toolbox and method does not provide any utility to the research community.
The data presented and quantified in each figure subpanel are from N = 1 mouse. This is not acceptable or conventional. Replication is an important aspect of any paper, and currently, there are no replicates contained in the manuscript. Additional examples of female mice should also be included and separately quantified. Mice from different litters should be used for replicates.
Given the preliminary nature of these data from the minimum possible number of mice, a better characterization of all data should be undertaken.
The tone of the paper implies that this is the superior way to locate the claustrum. A more balanced discussion of the strengths and weaknesses of these mice should be included. Several sentences highlighting the shortfalls of other approaches are overstated and should be toned down.
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Reviewer #2 (Public Review):
Rodent studies of claustrum are complicated by the tube-like shape of this nucleus. As such, judicious viral strategies alone or in combination with existing Cre driver lines (Egr2, Gnb4, Slc17a6, and Tbx21) represent the current gold standard for claustrum structure and function investigation. Any improvement in tools that would allow better genetic access to the claustrum are always desired, as with any nucleus in brain. This paper describes the expression pattern of the gene Smim32 and characterization of new mouse transgenic lines expressing Cre/Flp recombinase driven by the Smim32 promoter. The authors should be applauded for the work to develop these new tools presented in the study. Overall, the strengths of the paper lie in the development of new mouse lines that are well-characterized in comparison to other molecular markers of the claustrum. Weaknesses lie in poor anatomical definitions of the claustrum (and endopiriform nucleus). Smim32 expression is used to define claustrum anatomical boundaries, rather than first using several structural, molecular, and connectivity lines of evidence to define the claustrum anatomically and then to assess whether Smim32 expression fits within this anatomical definition. Another major weakness is the fact that Cre/Flp expression driven by the Smim32 promoter is present in non-claustrum regions, including the neighboring cortex, striatum, and endopiriform nucleus as well as the more distant thalamic reticular nucleus. Despite this, the conclusion of the study, as communicated by the authors, is that selective interrogation of the claustrum is now possible with these Smim32-based tools. Therefore, the data do not support the claims and conclusions.
Very concerning is problematic language in the abstract and introduction sections that diminish the impact of several published studies (not cited) that have led to important findings regarding claustrum function. The authors Create an argument that all the research performed thus far on the claustrum is unreliable because targeting the structure has been sub-optimal. This is definitely not the case for several studies from multiple labs. If investigators new to the claustrum were to read this paper, they would conclude that all previous data hold little-to-no value and that using these tools set forth the possibility, at long last, to solve claustrum structural and functional queries. Here is an example from the abstract of the problematic language: "However, research on the CLA has been challenging due to difficulties in specifically and comprehensively targeting its neuronal populations. In various cases, this limitation has led to inconsistent findings and a lack of reliable data." (no references cited). Since Smim32 driven recombinase (in 61 or 62lrod) is not exclusively expressed in the claustrum, it is not clear how Smim32 is an advantage over possible Nr4a2 or, the more selective, GNB4 Cre driver lines. Taken together, the goal of the study as articulated in the Introduction: "Our goal was here to generate genetic tools capable of targeting the majority of mouse CLA projection neurons without affecting other brain cell populations, or tissues outside the brain" has not been met and, therefore, the conclusion of the study based on the data "With these genetic tools in hand, the comprehensive targeting and functional probing of the densely connected CLA is now possible" is unfortunately also unmet.
The manuscript does convincingly show that Smim32 targets excitatory neurons in the claustrum as evidenced by exclusive overlap of Smim32 expression with Vglut2 and not GAD (fig 1 and suppl fig 1). Additionally, the manuscript provides sufficient evidence that neurons in the claustrum area expressing Smim32 further co-express a number of other molecular markers of claustrum, including Nr4a2 (fig1), Lxn, Gnb4, and Oprk1 (fig 2), and Slc17a6 (suppl fig 1). The authors further show that Smim32 is not co-expressed with molecular markers of layer VI cortex like Ctgf and Rprm (fig 2). However, by limiting the line of evidence to molecular expression, the study fails to escape the limitations of molecular markers, which cannot by themselves be used to define the anatomical boundary of the claustrum. The expression of several of these markers in the neighboring endopiriform nucleus, including Smim32, is evidence that using molecular markers as a sole indicator of the anatomy of the claustrum is not warranted.
While the anatomical boundaries of the claustrum remain somewhat debated, several standards have emerged to delineate claustrum boundaries. These include immunoreactivity against Gng2 (or PV, especially in rat) to indicate claustrum or against Crym to counter-indicate claustrum. In addition, injection of retrograde tracers into the anterior cingulate cortex or retrosplenial cortex, for example, results in selective targeting of (large) subpopulations of claustrum neurons that help define claustrum location. Further targeting of neurons projecting to the anterior insula or thalamus has been used to delineate the boundaries of what some consider the claustrum shell and others consider the deep layers of the insula. The use of any of these approaches to delineate the claustrum anatomy should be used to describe the spatial distribution of Smim32 and Cre or FlpO in the transgenic lines.
The manuscript provides a description of Smim32 promoter-driven tdTomato in the three transgenic Cre lines during development. This shows strong expression in claustrum and not in surrounding regions. However, as the claustrum borders are not distinct without markers, the anatomical boundary of claustrum for this analysis is deemed arbitrary - an issue that is exacerbated when looking at the developing brain where atlases are less precise and boundaries of the claustrum are ill-defined.
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Reviewer #3 (Public Review):
Summary:
In the manuscript by Tuberosa et al., the authors set out to identify a genetic marker for the claustrum to create transgenic mice as tools to study this challenging brain region. To achieve this, the authors first re-analyzed published scRNAseq datasets from mouse frontal cortex and identified a unique cluster expressing Smim32, which correlated with Nr4a2, a previously reported claustrum marker (though also expressed in layer 6 and elsewhere). Importantly, Smim32 was also found to strongly express in the layer 6 and the thalamic reticular nucleus (with weaker expression in other parts of cortex, striatum, thalamus, olfactory bulb and more). The authors then extensively characterize Smim32 expression relative to a few other genes associated with claustrum and layer 6, as well as creating several novel transgenic mice focused on the Smim32 gene.
Strengths:
The main strength of the paper is the well done scRNAseq analysis, the beautiful ISH images/reconstructions, and the assessment of gene expression throughout development. The main value of this paper is adding the Smim32 gene to the list of markers expressed in the claustrum, though it is not specific to the claustrum, showing extensive expression in TRN and layer 6 of cortex.
Weaknesses:
The main weaknesses are that the results do not support the conclusion, namely that the Smim32 gene is not specific to the claustrum and that no other orthogonal approaches were used to define the claustrum, such as retrograde neuroanatomical tracing from cortex. Also, these results are of limited applicability as the gene expression was only performed in mice, so it is unclear how Smim32 relates to claustrum in other mammalian species (e.g. primates), which have a very clearly defined claustrum. The article is also missing some key literature on the anatomical definition of claustrum, specifically as it relates to the endopiriform nucleus (which is putatively considered part of the claustrum in rodents).
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Reviewer #1 (Public Review):
Summary
In this study, Takagi and colleagues demonstrate that changes in axonal arborization of the segmental wave motor command neurons are sufficient to change behavioral motor output.
The authors identify the Wnt receptors DFz2 and DFz4 and the ligand Wnt4 as modulators of stereotypic segmental arborization patterns of segmental wave neurons along the anterior-posterior body axis. Based on both embryonic expression pattern analysis and genetic manipulation of the signaling components in wave neurons (receptors) and the neuropil (Wnt4) the authors convincingly demonstrate that Wnt4 acts as a repulsive ligand for DFz2 that restricts posterior axon guidance of both anterior and posterior wave neurons. They also provide the first evidence that Wnt4 potentially acts as an attractive ligand for Df4 to promote the posterior extension of p-wave neurons. Interestingly, artificial optogenetic activation of all wave neurons that normally induces backward locomotion due to the activity of anterior wave neurons, fails to induce backward locomotion in a DFz2 knockdown condition with altered axonal extensions of all wave neurons towards posterior segments. In addition, the authors now observe enhanced fast-forward locomotion, a feature normally induced by posterior wave neurons. Consistent with these findings, they observe that the natural response to an anterior tactile stimulus is similarly altered in DFz2 knockdown animals. The animals respond with less backward movement and increased fast forward motion. These results suggest that alterations in the innervation pattern of wave motor command neurons are sufficient to switch behavioral response programs.
Strengths
The authors convincingly demonstrate the importance of Wnt signaling for anterior-posterior axon guidance of a single class of motor command neurons in the larval CNS. The demonstration that alteration of the expression level of a single axon guidance receptor is sufficient to not only alter the innervation pattern but to significantly modify the behavioral response program of the animal provides a potential entry point to understanding behavioral adaptations during evolution.
Weaknesses
While the authors demonstrate an alteration of the behavioral response to a natural tactile stimulus the observed effects, a reduction of backward motion and increased fast-foward locomotion, currently cannot be directly correlated to the morphological alterations observed in the single-neuron analyses. The authors do not report any loss of innervation in the "normal" target region but only a small additional innervation of more posterior regions. An analysis of synaptic connectivity and/or a more detailed morphological analysis that is supported by a larger number of analyzed neurons both in control and experimental animals would further strengthen the confidence of the study. As the authors suggest an alteration of the command circuitry, a direct observation of the downstream activation pattern in response to selective optogenetic stimulation of anterior wave neurons would further strengthen their claims (analogous to Takagi et al., 2017, Figure 4).
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Reviewer #2 (Public Review):
Summary:
The authors previously demonstrated that anterior-located a-Wave neurons (neuromeres A1-A3) extend axons anteriorly to connect to circuits inducing backward locomotion, while p-Wave axon (neuromeres A4-A7) project posteriorly to promote forward locomotion in Drosophila larvae. In the manuscript, the authors aim to determine the molecular mechanisms involved in wiring the segmentally homologous Wave neurons distinctively and thus are functionally different in modulating forward or backward locomotion. The genetic screen focused on Wnt/Fz-signaling due to its known anterior-to-posterior guidance roles in mammals and nematodes.
Strengths:
Knock-down (KD) DFz2 with two independent RNAi-lines caused ectopic posterior axon and dendrite extension for all a- and p-Wave neurons, with a-Wave axon extending into regions where p-Wave axons normally project. Both behavioral assays (optogenetic stimulation of all Wave neurons or tactile stimuli on heads using a von Frey filament) show that backward movement is reduced or absent and that the speed of evoked fast-forward locomotion is increased. This demonstrates that altered projections of Wave do alter behavior and the DFz2 KD phenotype is consistent with the potential aberrant wiring of a-Wave neurons to forward locomotion-promoting circuits instead of to backward locomotion-promoting circuits.
The main conclusion, that Wnt/Fz-signaling is essential for the guidance of Wave neurons and in diversifying their protection pattern in a segment-specific manner, is further supported by the results showing that DFz2 gain of function causes shortening of a-Wave but not p-Wave axon extensions towards the posterior end and that KD of DFz4 causes axonal shortening only in A6-p-Wave neurons but does not affect dendrites or processes of other Wave neurons. A role for ligand Wnt4 is demonstrated by results indicating that WNT4 mutants' posterior extension of a-Wave axons was elongated similar to DFz2 KD animals and p-Wave axon extension towards the posterior end was shortened similar to DFz2 KD animals. Finally, a DWnt4 gradient decreasing from the posterior (A8) to the anterior end (A2), similar to that described in other species, is supported by analyses of DWnt4 gene expression (using Wnt4 Trojan-Gal4) and protein expression (using antibodies). In contrast, DFz2 receptor levels seemed to decrease from the anterior (A2) to the posterior end (A5/6). Together the results support the conclusion that opposing Wnt/Fz ligand-receptor gradients contribute to the diversification of Wave neurons in a location-dependent manner and that DFz2 and DFz4 have opposing effects on axon extension.
Weaknesses:
Wave axon and dendrite projections are not exclusively determined by Wnt4, DFz2, and DFz4, and are likely to involve other Fz receptors, Wt ligands, and other types of receptor-ligand signaling pathways. This is in part supported by the fact that Wnt4 loss of function also resulted in phenotypes that do not mimic DFz2 KD or DFz4 KD (Figures 3D, E, and F) and that other Fz/Wnt mutants caused wave neuron phenotypes (Figure 1-supplement 2, D+E). This is not a weakness per se, since it doesn't affect the main conclusion of the manuscript. However, the description and analyses of the data in particular for Figure 1-supplement 2 D should be clarified in the legend. The number within the bars and the asterisks are not defined. It's presumed they refer to numbers of animals assessed and the asterisk next to DFz2 and DFz4 indicate statistically significant differences. However, only one p-value is provided in the legend. It is also unclear if p-values for the other mutants have not been determined or are non-significant. At least for mutants like Corin, which also exhibit altered axon projections, the p-values should be provided.
Figure 4 D, F. The gradient for Wnt4 was determined by comparison of expression levels of other segments to A8 but the gradient for DFz2 was by comparison to A2 and the data supports opposing gradients. However, for DFz2 (Figure 4, F) it seems that the gradient is bi-directional with the lowest being in A5 and increasing towards A2 as well as A8. Analysis should be performed in reference to A8 as well to determine if it is indeed bi-directional. While such a finding would not affect the interpretation of a-Wave neurons, it may impact conclusions about p-Wave neuron projections.
As discussed above, the DFz2 KD phenotypes are consistent with the potential aberrant wiring of a-Wave neurons to forward locomotion-promoting circuits instead of to backward locomotion-promoting circuits. However, since the axon and dendrites of a-Wave and p-Wave are affected the actual dendritic and axonal contributions for the altered behavior remain elusive. The authors certainly considered a potential contribution of altered dendrite projection of a-Wave neurons to the phenotype and their conclusion that altered axonal projections are involved is supported by the optogenetic experiment "bypassing" sensory input (albeit it seems unlikely that all Wave neurons are activated simultaneously when perceiving natural stimuli). However, the author should also consider that altered perception and projection of p-Wave neuron may directly (e.g. extended P-wave axon projections increase forward locomotion input thereby overriding backward locomotion) or indirectly (e.g. feedback loops between forward and backward circuits) contribute to the altered behavioral phenotypes in both assays. It is probably noteworthy that the more complex behavioral alterations observed with mechanical stimulation are likely to also be caused by altered dendritic projections.
Presynaptic varicosities of a-Wave neurons in DFz2 KD animals are indicated by orange arrows in Figure 1. However, no presynaptic markers have been used to confirm actual ectopic synaptic connections. At least the authors should more clearly define what parameters they used to "visually" define potential presynaptic varicosities. Some arrows seem to point to more "globular structures" but for several others, it's unclear what they are pointing at.
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Reviewer #1 (Public Review):
Summary:
In this manuscript, the authors present a novel CRISPR/Cas9-based genetic tool for the dopamine receptor dop1R2. Based on the known function of the receptor in learning and memory, they tested the efficacy of the genetic tool by knocking out the receptor specifically in mushroom body neurons. The data suggest that dop1R2 is necessary for longer-lasting memories through its action on ⍺/ß and ⍺'/ß' neurons but is dispensable for short-term memory and thus in ɣ neurons. The experiments impressively demonstrate the value of such a genetic tool and illustrate the specific function of the receptor in subpopulations of KCs for longer-term memories. The data presented in this manuscript are significant.
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Reviewer #2 (Public Review):
Summary:
This manuscript examines the role of the dopamine receptor, Dop1R2, in memory formation. This receptor has complex roles in supporting different stages of memory, and the neural mechanisms for these functions are poorly understood. The authors are able to localize Dop1R2 function to the vertical lobes of the mushroom body, revealing a role in later (presumably middle-term) aversive and appetitive memory. In general, the experimental design is rigorous, and statistics are appropriately applied. While the manuscript provides a useful tool, it would be strengthened further by additional mechanistic studies that build on the rich literature examining the roles of dopamine signaling in memory formation. The claim that Dop1R2 is involved in memory formation is strongly supported by the data presented, and this manuscript adds to a growing literature revealing that dopamine is a critical regulator of olfactory memory. However, the manuscript does not necessarily extend much beyond our understanding of Dop1R2 in memory formation, and future work will be needed to fully characterize this reagent and define the role of Dop1R2 in memory.
Strengths:
(1) The FRT lines generated provide a novel tool for temporal and spatially precise manipulation of Dop1R2 function. This tool will be valuable to study the role of Dop1R2 in memory and other behaviors potentially regulated by this gene.
(2) Given the highly conserved role of Dop1R2 in memory and other processes, these findings have a high potential to translate to vertebrate species.
Weaknesses:
(1) The authors state Dop1R2 associates with two different G-proteins. It would be useful to know which one is mediating the loss of aversive and appetitive memory in Dop1R2 knockout flies.
(2) It would be interesting to examine 24hr aversive memory, in addition to 24hr appetitive memory.
(3) The manuscript would be strengthened by added functional analysis. What are the DANs that signal through Dop1R. How do these knockouts impact MBONs?
(4) Also in Figure 2, the lobe-specific knockouts might be moved to supplemental since there is no effect. Instead, consider moving the control sensory tests into the main figure.
(5) Can the single-cell atlas data be used to narrow down the cell types in the vertical lobes that express Dop1R2? Is it all or just a subset?
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Reviewer #3 (Public Review):
Summary:
Kaldun et al. investigated the role of Dopamine Receptor Dop1R2 in different types and stages of olfactory associative memory in Drosophila melanogaster. Dop1R2 is a type 1 Dopamine receptor that can act both through Gs-cAMP and Gq-ERCa2+ pathways. The authors first developed a very useful tool, where tissue-specific knock-out mutants can be generated, using Crispr/Cas9 technology in combination with the powerful Gal4/UAS gene-expression toolkit, very common in fruit flies.<br /> They direct the K.O. mutation to intrinsic neurons of the main associative memory centre fly brain-the mushroom body (MB). There are three main types of MB-neurons, or Kenyon cells, according to their axonal projections: a/b; a'/b', and g neurons.
Kaldun et al. found that flies lacking dop1R2 all over the MB displayed impaired appetitive middle-term (2h) and long-term (24h) memory, whereas appetitive short-term memory remained intact. Knocking-out dop1R2 in the three MB neuron subtypes also impaired middle-term, but not short-term, aversive memory.
These memory defects were recapitulated when the loss of the dop1R2 gene was restricted to either a/b or a'/b', but not when the loss of the gene was restricted to g neurons, showcasing a compartmentalized role of Dop1R2 in specific neuronal subtypes of the main memory centre of the fly brain for the expression of middle and long-term memories.
Strengths:
(1) The conclusions of this paper are very well supported by the data, and the authors systematically addressed the requirement of a very interesting type of dopamine receptor in both appetitive and aversive memories. These findings are important for the fields of learning and memory and dopaminergic neuromodulation among others. The evidence in the literature so far was generated in different labs, each using different tools (mutants, RNAi knockdowns driven in different developmental stages...), different time points (short, middle, and long-term memory), different types of memories (Anesthesia resistant, which is a type of protein synthesis independent consolidated memory; anesthesia sensitive, which is a type of protein synthesis-dependent consolidated memory; aversive memory; appetitive memory...) and different behavioral paradigms. A study like this one allows for direct comparison of the results, and generalized observations.
(2) Additionally, Kaldun and collaborators addressed the requirement of different types of Kenyon cells, that have been classically involved in different memory stages: g KCs for memory acquisition and a/b or a'/b' for later memory phases. This systematical approach has not been performed before.
(3) Importantly, the authors of this paper produced a tool to generate tissue-specific knock-out mutants of dop1R2. Although this is not the first time that the requirement of this gene in different memory phases has been studied, the tools used here represent the most sophisticated genetic approach to induce a loss of function phenotypes exclusively in MB neurons.
Weaknesses:
(1) Although the paper does have important strengths, the main weakness of this work is that the advancement in the field could be considered incremental: the main findings of the manuscript had been reported before by several groups, using tissue-specific conditional knockdowns through interference RNAi. The requirement of Dop1R2 in MB for middle-term and long-term memories has been shown both for appetitive (Musso et al 2015, Sun et al 2020) and aversive associations (Plaçais et al 2017).
(2) The approach used here to genetically modify memory neurons is not temporally restricted. Considering the role of dopamine in the correct development of the nervous system, one must consider the possible effects that this manipulation can have in the establishment of memory circuits. However, previous studies addressing this question restricted the manipulation of Dop1R2 expression to adulthood, leading to the same findings than the ones reported in this paper for both aversive and appetitive memories, which solidifies the findings of this paper.
(3) The authors state that they aim to resolve disparities of findings in the field regarding the specific role of Dop1R2 in memory, offering a potent tool to generate mutants and addressing systematically their effects on different types of memory. Their results support the role of this receptor in the expression of long-term memories, however in the experiments performed here do not address temporal resolution of the genetic manipulations that could bring light into the mechanisms of action of Dop1R2 in memory. Several hypotheses have been proposed, from stabilization of memory, effects on forgetting, or integration of sequences of events (sensory experiences and dopamine release).
Overall, the authors generated a very useful tool to study dopamine neuromodulation in any given circuit when used in combination with the powerful genetic toolkit available in Drosophila. The reports in this paper confirmed a previously described role of Dop1R2 in the expression of aversive and appetitive LTM and mapped these effects to two specific types of memory neurons in the fly brain, previously implicated in the expression and consolidation of long-term associative memories.
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Summary:
This paper explores how diverse forms of inhibition impact firing rates in models for cortical circuits. In particular, the paper studies how the network operating point affects the balance of direct inhibition from SOM inhibitory neurons to pyramidal cells, and disinhibition from SOM inhibitory input to PV inhibitory neurons. This is an important issue as these two inhibitory pathways have largely been studies in isolation. Support for the main conclusions is generally solid, but could be strengthened by additional analyses.
Strengths:
A major strength of the paper is the systematic exploration of how circuit architecture effects the impact of inhibition. This includes scans across parameter space to determine how firing rates and stability depend on effective connectivity. This is done through linearization of the circuit about an effective operating point, and then the study of how perturbations in input effect this linear approximation.
Weaknesses:
The linearization approach means that the conclusions of the paper are valid only on the linear regime of network behavior. The paper would be substantially strengthened with a test of whether the conclusions from the linearized circuit hold over a large range of network activity. Is it possible to simulate the full network and do some targeted tests of the conclusions from linearization? Those tests could be guided by the linearization to focus on specific parameter ranges of interest.
The results illustrated in the figures are generally well described but there is very little intuition provided for them. Are there simplified examples or explanations that could be given to help the results make sense? Here are some places such intuition would be particularly helpful:<br /> page 6, paragraph starting "In sum ..."<br /> Page 8, last paragraph<br /> Page 10, paragraph starting "In summary ..."<br /> Page 11, sentence starting "In sum ..."
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Reviewer #2 (Public Review):
Summary:
Bos and colleagues address the important question of how two major inhibitory interneuron classes in the neocortex differentially affect cortical dynamics. They address this question by studying Wilson-Cowan-type mathematical models. Using a linearized fixed point approach, they provide convincing evidence that the existence of multiple interneuron classes can explain the counterintuitive finding that inhibitory modulation can increase the gain of the excitatory cell population while also increasing the stability of the circuit's state to minor perturbations. This effect depends on the connection strengths within their circuit model, providing valuable guidance as to when and why it arises.
Overall, I find this study to have substantial merit. I have some suggestions on how to improve the clarity and completeness of the paper.
Strengths:
(1) The thorough investigation of how changes in the connectivity structure affect the gain-stability relationship is a major strength of this work. It provides an opportunity to understand when and why gain and stability will or will not both increase together. It also provides a nice bridge to the experimental literature, where different gain-stability relationships are reported from different studies.
(2) The simplified and abstracted mathematical model has the benefit of facilitating our understanding of this puzzling phenomenon. (I have some suggestions for how the authors could push this understanding further.) It is not easy to find the right balance between biologically detailed models vs simple but mathematically tractable ones, and I think the authors struck an excellent balance in this study.
Weaknesses:
(1) The fixed-point analysis has potentially substantial limitations for understanding cortical computations away from the steady-state. I think the authors should have emphasized this limitation more strongly and possibly included some additional analyses to show that their conclusions extend to the chaotic dynamical regimes in which cortical circuits often live.
(2) The authors could have discussed -- even somewhat speculatively -- how SST interneurons fit into this picture. Their absence from this modelling framework stands out as a missed opportunity.
(3) The analysis is limited to paths within this simple E,PV,SOM circuit. This misses more extended paths (like thalamocortical loops) that involve interactions between multiple brain areas. Including those paths in the expansion in Eqs. 11-14 (Fig. 1C) may be an important consideration.
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Reviewer #3 (Public Review):
Summary:<br /> Bos et al study a computational model of cortical circuits with excitatory (E) and two subtypes of inhibition - parvalbumin (PV) and somatostatin (SOM) expressing interneurons. They perform stability and gain analysis of simplified models with nonlinear transfer functions when SOM neurons are perturbed. Their analysis suggests that in a specific setup of connectivity, instability and gain can be untangled, such that SOM modulation leads to both increases in stability and gain. This is in contrast with the typical direction in neuronal networks where increased gain results in decreased stability.
Strengths:<br /> - Analysis of the canonical circuit in response to SOM perturbations. Through numerical simulations and mathematical analysis, the authors have provided a rather comprehensive picture of how SOM modulation may affect response changes.
- Shedding light on two opposing circuit motifs involved in the canonical E-PV-SOM circuitry - namely, direct inhibition (SOM -> E) vs disinhibition (SOM -> PV -> E). These two pathways can lead to opposing effects, and it is often difficult to predict which one results from modulating SOM neurons. In simplified circuits, the authors show how these two motifs can emerge and depend on parameters like connection weights.
- Suggesting potentially interesting consequences for cortical computation. The authors suggest that certain regimes of connectivity may lead to untangling of stability and gain, such that increases in network gain are not compromised by decreasing stability. They also link SOM modulation in different connectivity regimes to versatile computations in visual processing in simple models.
Weaknesses:<br /> The computational analysis is not novel per se, and the link to biology is not direct/clear.
Computationally, the analysis is solid, but it's very similar to previous studies (del Molino et al, 2017). Many studies in the past few years have done the perturbation analysis of a similar circuitry with or without nonlinear transfer functions (some of them listed in the references). This study applies the same framework to SOM perturbations, which is a useful and interesting computational exercise, in view of the complexity of the high-dimensional parameter space. But the mathematical framework is not novel per se, undermining the claim of providing a new framework (or "circuit theory").
Link to biology: the most interesting result of the paper with regard to biology is the suggestion of a regime in which gain and stability can be modulated in an unconventional way - however, it is difficult to link the results to biological networks:<br /> - A general weakness of the paper is a lack of direct comparison to biological parameters or experiments. How different experiments can be reconciled by the results obtained here, and what new circuit mechanisms can be revealed? In its current form, the paper reads as a general suggestion that different combinations of gain modulation and stability can be achieved in a circuit model equipped with many parameters (12 parameters). This is potentially interesting but not surprising, given the high dimensional space of possible dynamical properties. A more interesting result would have been to relate this to biology, by providing reasoning why it might be relevant to certain circuits (and not others), or to provide some predictions or postdictions, which are currently missing in the manuscript.<br /> - For instance, a nice motivation for the paper at the beginning of the Results section is the different results of SOM modulation in different experiments - especially between L23 (inhibition) and L4 (disinhibition). But no further explanation is provided for why such a difference should exist, in view of their results and the insights obtained from their suggested circuit mechanisms. How the parameters identified for the two regimes correspond to different properties of different layers?<br /> - Another caveat is the range of parameters needed to obtain the unintuitive untangling as a result of SOM modulation. From Figure 4, it appears that the "interesting" regime (with increases in both gain and stability) is only feasible for a very narrow range of SOM firing rates (before 3 Hz). This can be a problem for the computational models if the sweet spot is a very narrow region (this analysis is by the way missing, so making it difficult to know how robust the result is in terms of parameter regions). In terms of biology, it is difficult to reconcile this with the realistic firing rates in the cortex: in the mouse cortex, for instance, we know that SOM neurons can be quite active (comparable to E neurons), especially in response to stimuli. It is therefore not clear if we should expect this mechanism to be a relevant one for cortical activity regimes.<br /> - One of the key assumptions of the model is nonlinear transfer functions for all neuron types. In terms of modelling and computational analysis, a thorough analysis of how and when this is necessary is missing (an analysis similar to what has been attempted at in Figure 6 for synaptic weights, but for cellular gains). In terms of biology, the nonlinear transfer function has experimentally been reported for excitatory neurons, so it's not clear to what extent this may hold for different inhibitory subtypes. A discussion of this, along with the former analysis to know which nonlinearities would be necessary for the results, is needed, but currently missing from the study. The nonlinearity is assumed for all subtypes because it seems to be needed to obtain the results, but it's not clear how the model would behave in the presence or absence of them, and whether they are relevant to biological networks with inhibitory transfer functions.<br /> - Tuning curves are simulated for an individual orientation (same for all), not considering the heterogeneity of neuronal networks with multiple orientation selectivity (and other visual features) - making the model too simplistic.
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summary - I'm reviewing this paper because the title seems salient for the development of our own participatory Stop Reset Go system mapping tool within Indyweb ecosystem. - The building of - a systems-based Theory of Change using - Participatory Systems Mapping - is salient to our own project and aligns to it with different language: - Theory of Change with uses theory to perform an evaluation and propose an intervention - The Stop Reset Go framework focuses on the specific type of process called "improvement", or - transforming a process to make it "better" in some way
to - Indyweb project info page - https://hyp.is/RRevQk0UEe-xwP-i8Ywwqg/opencollective.com/open-learning-commons/projects/indy-learning-commons
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Reviewer #1 (Public Review):
Summary:
Dr. Santamaria's group previously utilized antigen-specific nanomedicines to induce immune tolerance in treating autoimmune diseases. The success of this therapeutic strategy has been linked to expanded regulatory mechanisms, particularly the role of T-regulatory type-1 (TR1) cells. However, the differentiation program of TR1 cells remained largely unclear. Previous work from the authors suggested that TR1 cells originate from T follicular helper (TFH) cells. In the current study, the authors aimed to investigate the epigenetic mechanisms underlying the transdifferentiation of TFH cells into IL-10-producing TR1 cells. Specifically, they sought to determine whether this process involves extensive chromatin remodeling or is driven by pre-existing epigenetic modifications. Their goal was to understand the transcriptional and epigenetic changes facilitating this transition and to explore the potential therapeutic implications of manipulating this pathway.
The authors successfully demonstrated that the TFH-to-TR1 transdifferentiation process is driven by pre-existing epigenetic modifications rather than extensive new chromatin remodeling. The comprehensive transcriptional and epigenetic analyses provide robust evidence supporting their conclusions.
Strengths:
(1) The study employs a broad range of bulk and single-cell transcriptional and epigenetic tools, including RNA-seq, ATAC-seq, ChIP-seq, and DNA methylation analysis. This comprehensive approach provides a detailed examination of the epigenetic landscape during the TFH-to-TR1 transition.
(2) The use of high-throughput sequencing technologies and sophisticated bioinformatics analyses strengthens the foundation for the conclusions drawn.
(3) The data generated can serve as a valuable resource for the scientific community, offering insights into the epigenetic regulation of T-cell plasticity.
(4) The findings have significant implications for developing new therapeutic strategies for autoimmune diseases, making the research highly relevant and impactful.
Weaknesses:
(1) While the scope of this study lies in transcriptional and epigenetic analyses, the conclusions need to be validated by future functional analyses.
(2) This study successfully identified key transcription factors and epigenetic marks. How these factors mechanistically drive chromatin closure and gene expression changes during the TFH-to-TR1 transition requires further investigation.
(3) The study provides a snapshot of the epigenetic landscape. Future dynamic analysis may offer more insights into the progression and stability of the observed changes.
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Reviewer #2 (Public Review):
Summary:
This study, based on their previous findings that TFH cells can be converted into TR1 cells, conducted a highly detailed and comprehensive epigenetic investigation to answer whether TR1 differentiation from TFH is driven by epigenetic changes. Their evidence indicated that the downregulation of TFH-related genes during the TFH to TR1 transition depends on chromatin closure, while the upregulation of TR1-related genes does not depend on epigenetic changes.
Strengths:
A significant advantage of their approach lies in its detailed and comprehensive assessment of epigenetics. Their analysis of epigenetics covers chromatin open regions, histone modifications, DNA methylation, and using both single-cell and bulk techniques to validate their findings. As for their results, observations from different epigenetic perspectives mutually supported each other, lending greater credibility to their conclusions. This study effectively demonstrates that (1) the TFH-to-TR1 differentiation process is associated with massive closure of OCRs, and (2) the TR1-poised epigenome of TFH cells is a key enabler of this transdifferentiation process. Considering the extensive changes in epigenetic patterns involved in other CD4+ T lineage commitment processes, the similarity between TFH and TR1 in their epigenetics is intriguing.
They performed correlation analysis to answer the association between "pMHC-NP-induced epigenetic change" and "gene expression change in TR1". Also, they have made their raw data publicly available, providing a comprehensive epigenomic database of pMHC-NP-induced TR1 cells. This will serve as a valuable reference for future research.
Weaknesses:
A major limitation is that this study heavily relies on a premise from the previous studies performed by the same group on pMHC-NP-induced T-cell responses. This significantly limits the relevance of their conclusion to a broader perspective. Specifically, differential OCRs between Tet+ and naïve T cells were limited to only 821, as compared to 10,919 differential OCRs between KLH-TFH and naïve T cells (Figure 2A), indicating that the precursors and T cell clonotypes that responded to pMHC-NP were extremely limited. This limitation should be clearly discussed in the Discussion section.
This article uses peak calling to determine whether a region has histone modifications, claiming that the regions with histone modifications in TFH and TR1 are highly similar. However, they did not discuss the differences in histone modification intensities measured by ChIP-seq. For example, as shown in Figure 6C, IL10 H3K27ac modification in Tet+ cells showed significantly higher intensity than KLH-TFH, while in this article, it may be categorized as "possessing same histone modification region". This will strengthen their conclusions.
Last, the key findings of this study are clear and convincing, but some results and figures are unnecessary and redundant. Some results are largely a mere confirmation of the relationship between histone marks and chromatin status. I propose to reduce the number of figures and text that are largely confirmatory. Overall, I feel this paper is too long for its current contents.
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Summary:
The study of human intelligence has been the focus of cognitive neuroscience research, and finding some objective behavioral or neural indicators of intelligence has been an ongoing problem for scientists for many years. Melnick et al, 2013 found for the first time that the phenomenon of spatial suppression in motion perception predicts an individual's IQ score. This is because IQ is likely associated with the ability to suppress irrelevant information. In this study, a high-resolution MRS approach was used to test this theory. In this paper, the phenomenon of spatial suppression in motion perception was found to be correlated with the visuo-spatial subtest of gF, while both variables were also correlated with the GABA concentration of MT+ in the human brain. In addition, there was no significant relationship with the excitatory transmitter Glu. At the same time, SI was also associated with MT+ and several frontal cortex FCs.
Strengths:
(1) 7T high-resolution MRS is used.
(2) This study combines the behavioral tests, MRS, and fMRI.
Weaknesses:
Major:
(1) In Melnick (2013) IQ scores were measured by the full set of WAIS-III, including all subtests. However, this study only used visual spatial domain of gF. I wonder why only the visuo-spatial subtest was used not the full WAIS-III? I am wondering whether other subtests were conducted and, if so, please include the results as well to have comprehensive comparisons with Melnick (2013).
Minor:
(1) Table 1 and Table supplementary 1-3 contain many correlation results. But what are the main points of these values? Which values do the authors want to highlight? Why are only p-values shown with significance symbols in Table supplementary 2??
(2) Line 27, it is unclear to me what is "the canonical theory".
(3) Throughout the paper, the authors use "MT+", I would suggest using "hMT+" to indicate the human MT complex, and to be consistent with the human fMRI literature.
(4) At the beginning of the results section, I suggest including the total number of subjects. It is confusing what "31/36 in MT+, and 28/36 in V1" means.
(5) Line 138, "This finding supports the hypothesis that motion perception is associated with neural activity in MT+ area". This sentence is strange because it is a well established finding in numerous human fMRI papers. I think the authors should be more specific about what this finding implies.
(6) There are no unit labels for all x- and y-axies in Figure 1. I only see the unit for Conc is mmol per kg wet weight.
(7) Although the correlations are not significant in Figure supplement 2&3, please also include the correlation line, 95% confidence interval, and report the r values and p values (i.e., similar format as in Figure 1C).
(8) There is no need to separate different correlation figures into Figure supplementary 1-4. They can be combined into the same figure.
(9) Line 213, as far as I know, the study (Melnick et al., 2013) is a psychophysical study and did not provide evidence that the spatial suppression effect is associated with MT+.
(10) At the beginning of the results, I suggest providing more details about the motion discrimination tasks and the measurement of the BDT.
(11) Please include the absolute duration thresholds of the small and large sizes of all subjects in Figure 1.
(12) Figure 5 is too small. The items in plot a and b can be barely visible.
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Reviewer #3 (Public Review):
(1) Throughout the manuscript, hMT+ connectivity with the frontal cortex has been treated as an a priori hypothesis/space. However, there is no such motivation or background literature mentioned in the Introduction. Can the authors clarify the necessity of functional connectivity? In other words, can BOLD activity of hMT+ in the localizer task substitute for functional connectivity between hMT+ and the frontal cortex?
(2) There is an obvious mismatch between the in-text description and the content of the figure:
"In contrast, there was no correlation between BDT and GABA levels in V1 voxels (figure supplement 1a). Further, we show that SI significantly correlates with GABA levels in hMT+ voxels (r = 0.44, P = 0.01, n = 31, Figure 3d). In contrast, no significant correlation between SI and GABA concentrations in V1 voxels was observed (figure supplement 1b)."
(3) The authors' response to my previous round of review indicated that the "V1 ROIs" covered a substantial amount of V3 (32%). Therefore, it would no longer be appropriate to call these "V1 ROIs". I'd suggest renaming them as "Early Visual Cortex (EVC) ROIs" to be more accurate. Can the authors justify why choosing the left hemisphere for visual intelligence task, which is typically believed to be right lateralized?
(4) "Small threshold" and "large threshold" are neither standard descriptions, and it is unclear what "small threshold" refers to in the following figure caption. Additionally, the unit (ms) is confusing. Does it refer to timing?
"(f) Peason's correlation showing significant negative correlations between BDT and small threshold."
(5) In the response letter, the authors mentioned incorporating the neural efficiency hypothesis in the Introduction, but the revised Introduction does not contain such information.
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Reviewer #1 (Public Review):
In this revised manuscript, authors have conducted epigenetic and transcriptomic profiling to understand how environmental chemicals such as BPS can cause epimutations that can propagate to future generations. They used isolated somatic cells from mice (Sertoli, granulosa), pluripotent cells to model preimplantation embryos (iPSCs) and cells to model the germline (PGCLCs). This enabled them to model sequential steps in germline development, and when/how epimutations occur. The major findings were that BPS induced unique epimutations in each cell type, albeit with qualitative and quantitative cell-specific differences; that these epimutations are prevalent in regions associated with estrogen-response elements (EREs); and that epimutations induced in iPSCs are corrected as they differentiate into PGCLCs, concomitant with the emergence of de novo epimutations. This study will be useful in understanding the multigenerational effects of EDCs, and underlying mechanisms.
Strengths include:
(1) Using different cell types representing life stages of epigenetic programming and during which exposures to EDCs have different effects. This progression revealed information both about the correction of epimutations and the emergence of new ones in PGCLCs.
(2) Work conducted by exposing iPSCs to BPS or vehicle, then differentiating to PGCLCs, revealed that novel epimutations emerged.
(3) Relating epimutations to promoter and enhancer regions
During the review process, authors improved the manuscript through better organization, clarifying previous points from reviewers, and providing additional data.
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Reviewer #2 (Public Review):
Summary:
This manuscript uses cell lines representative of germ line cells, somatic cells and pluripotent cells to address the question of how the endocrine disrupting compound BPS affects these various cells with respect to gene expression and DNA methylation. They find a relationship between the presence of estrogen receptor gene expression and the number of DNA methylation and gene expression changes. Notably, PGCLCs do not express estrogen receptors and although they do have fewer changes, changes are nevertheless detected, suggesting a nonconical pathway for BPS-induced perturbations. Additionally, there was a significant increase in the occurrence of BPS-induced epimutations near EREs in somatic and pluripotent cell types compared to germ cells. Epimutations in the somatic and pluripotent cell types were predominantly in enhancer regions whereas that in the germ cell type was predominantly in gene promoters.
Strengths:
The strengths of the paper include the use of various cell types to address sensitivity of the lineages to BPS as well as the observed relationship between the presence of estrogen receptors and changes in gene expression and DNA methylation.
Weaknesses:
The weakness, which has been addressed by the authors, includes the fact that exposures are more complicated in a whole organism than in an isolated cell line.
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Reviewer #1 (Public Review):
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In this manuscript, Quach et al. report a detailed investigation into the defense mechanisms of Caenorhabditis elegans in response to predatory threats from Pristionchus pacificus. Based on principles from predatory imminence and prey refuge theories, the authors delineate three defense modes (pre-encounter, post-encounter, and circa-strike) corresponding to increasing levels of threat proximity. These modes are observed in a controlled but naturalistic setup and are quantified by multiple behavioral outputs defined in time and/or space domains allowing nuanced phenotypic assays. The authors demonstrate that C. elegans displays graded defense behavioral responses toward varied lethality of threats and that only life-threatening predators trigger all three defense modes. The study also offers a narrative on the behavioral strategies and underlying molecular regulation, focusing on the roles of SEB-3 receptors and NLP-49 peptides in mediating responses in these defense modes. They found that the interplay between SEB-3 and NLP-49 peptides appears complex, as evidenced by the diverse outcomes when either or both genes are manipulated in various behavioral modes.
Strengths:
The paper presents an interesting story, with carefully designed experiments and necessary controls, and novel findings and implications about predator-induced defensive behaviors and underlying molecular regulation in this important model organism. The design of experiments and description of findings are easy to follow and well-motivated. The findings contribute to our understanding of stress response systems and offer broader implications for neuroethological studies across species.
Weaknesses:
Although overall the study is well designed and movitated, the paper could benefit from further improvements on some of the methods descriptions and experiment interpretations.
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Reviewer #2 (Public Review):
In this study, the authors characterize the defensive responses of C. elegans to the predatory Pristionchus species. Drawing parallels to ecological models of predatory imminence and prey refuge theory, they outline various behaviors exhibited by C. elegans when faced with predator threats. They also find that these behaviors can be modulated by the peptide NLP-49 and its receptor SEB-3 in various degrees.
The conclusions of this paper are mostly well-supported, the writing and the figures are clear and easy to interpret. However, some of the claims need to be better supported and the unique findings of this work should be clarified better in text.
(1) Previous work by the group (Quach, 2022) showed that Pristionchus adopt a "patrolling strategy" on a lawn with adult C. elegans and this depends on bacterial lawn thickness. Consequently, it may be hypothesized that C. elegans themselves will adopt different predator avoidance strategies depending on predator tactics differing due to lawn variations. The authors have not shown why they selected a particular size and density of bacterial lawn for the experiments in this paper, and should run control experiments with thinner and denser lawns with differing edge densities to make broad arguments about predator avoidance strategies for C. elegans. In addition, C. elegans leaving behavior from bacterial lawns (without predators) are also heavily dependent on density of bacteria, especially at the edges where it affects oxygen gradients (Bendesky, 2011), and might alter the baseline leaving rates irrespective of predation threats. The authors also do not mention if all strains or conditions in each figure panel were run as day-matched controls. Given that bacterial densities and ambient conditions can affect C. elegans behavior, especially that of lawn-leaving, it is important to run day-matched controls.
(2) Both the patch-leaving and feeding in outstretched posture behaviors described here in this study were reported in an earlier paper by the same group (Quach, 2022) as mentioned by the authors in the first section of the results. While they do characterize these further in this study, these are not novel findings of this work.
(3) For Figures 1F-H, given that animals can reside on the lawn edges as well as the center, bins explored are not a definitive metric of exploration since the animals can decide to patrol the lawn boundary (especially since the lawns have thick edges). The authors should also quantify tracks along the edge from videographic evidence as they have done previously in Figure 5 of Quach, 2022 to get a total measure of distance explored.
(4) Where were the animals placed in the wide-arena predator-free patch post encounter? It is mentioned that the animal was placed at the center of the arena in lines 220-221. While this makes sense for the narrow-arena, it is unclear how far from the patch animals were positioned for the wide exit arena. Is it the same distance away as the distance of the patch from the center of the narrow exit arena? Please make this clear in the text or in the methods.
(5) Do exit decisions from the bacterial patch scale with number of bites or is one bite sufficient? Do all bites lead to bite-induced aversive response? This would be important to quantify especially if contextualizing to predatory imminence.
(6) Why are the threats posed by aversive but non-lethal JU1051 and lethal PS312 evaluated similarly? Did the authors characterize if the number of bites are different for these strains? Can the authors speculate on why this would happen in the discussion?
(7) The authors indicate that bites from the non-aversive TU445 led to a low number of exits and thus it was consequently excluded from further analysis. If anything, this strain would have provided a good negative control and baseline metrics for other circa-strike and post-encounter behaviors.
8) For Figures 3 G and H, the reduction in bins explored (bins_none - bins_RS1594) due to the presence of predators should be compared between wildtype and mutants, instead of the difference between none and RS5194 for each strain.
(9) While the authors argue that baseline speeds of seb-3 are similar to wild type (Figure S3), previous work (Jee, 2012) has shown that seb-3 not only affects speed but also roaming/dwelling states which will significantly affect the exploration metric (bins explored) which the authors use in Figs 3G-H and 4E-F. Control experiments are necessary to avoid this conundrum. Authors should either visualize and quantify tracks (as suggested in 3) or quantify roaming-dwelling in the seb-3 animals in the absence of predator threat.
(10) While it might be beyond the scope of the study, it would be nice if the authors could speculate on potential sites of actions of NLP-49 in the discussion, especially since it is expressed in a distinct group of neurons.
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Reviewer #1 (Public Review):
Summary:
Kan et al. report the serendipitous discovery of a Bacillus amyloliquefaciens strain that kills N. gonorrhoeae. They use TnSeq to identify that the anti-gonococcal agent is oxydifficidin and show that it acts at the ribosome and that one of the dedA gene products in N. gonorrhoeae MS11 is important for moving the oxydifficidin across the membrane.
Strengths:
This is an impressive amount of work, moving from a serendipitous observation through TnSeq to characterize the mechanism by which Oxydifficidin works.
Weaknesses:
(1) There are important gaps in the manuscript's methods.
(2) The work should evaluate antibiotics relevant to N. gonorrhoeae.
(3) The genetic diversity of dedA and rplL in N. gonorrhoeae is not clear, neither is it clear whether oxydifficidin is active against more relevant strains and species than tested so far.
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Reviewer #2 (Public Review):
Summary:
Kan et al. present the discovery of oxydifficidin as a potential antimicrobial against N. gonorrhoeae, including multi-drug resistant strains. The authors show the role of DedA flippase-assisted uptake and the specificity of RplL in the mechanism of action for oxydifficidin. This novel mode of action could potentially offer a new therapeutic avenue, providing a critical addition to the limited arsenal of antibiotics effective against gonorrhea.
Strengths:
This study underscores the potential of revisiting natural products for antibiotic discovery of modern-day-concerning pathogens and highlights a new target mechanism that could inform future drug development. Indeed there is a recent growing body of research utilising AI and predictive computational informatics to revisit potential antimicrobial agents and metabolites from cultured bacterial species. The discovery of oxydifficidin interaction with RplL and its DedA-assisted uptake mechanism opens new research directions in understanding and combating antibiotic-resistant N. gonorrhoeae. Methodologically, the study is rigorous employing various experimental techniques such as genome sequencing, bioassay-guided fractionation, LCMS, NMR, and Tn-mutagenesis.
Weaknesses:
The scope is somewhat narrow, focusing primarily on N. gonorrhoeae. This limits the generalizability of the findings and leaves questions about its broader antibacterial spectrum. Moreover, while the study demonstrates the in vitro effectiveness of oxydifficidin, there is a lack of in vivo validation (i.e., animal models) for assessing pre-clinical potential of oxydifficidin. Potential SNPs within dedA or RplL raise concerns about how quickly resistance could emerge in clinical settings.
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Reviewer #3 (Public Review):
Summary:
The authors have shown that oxydifficidin is a potent inhibitor of Neisseria gonorrhoeae. They were able to identify the target of action to rpsL and showed that resistance could occur via mutation in the DedA flippase and RpsL.
Strengths:
This was a very thorough and clearly argued set of experiments that supported their conclusions.
Weaknesses:
There was no obvious weakness in the experimental design. Although it is promising that the DedA mutations resulted in attenuation of fitness, it remains an open question whether secondary rounds of mutation could overcome this selective disadvantage which was untried in this study.
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Summary:
This paper details a study of endothelial cell vessel formation during zebrafish development. The results focus on the role of aquaporins, which mediate the flow of water across the cell membrane, leading to cell movement. The authors show that actin and water flow together drive endothelial cell migration and vessel formation. If any of these two elements are perturbed, there are observed defects in vessels. Overall, the paper significantly improves our understanding of cell migration during morphogenesis in organisms.
Strengths:
The data are extensive and are of high quality. There is a good amount of quantification with convincing statistical significance. The overall conclusion is justified given the evidence.
Weaknesses:
There are two weaknesses, which if addressed, would improve the paper.
(1) The paper focuses on aquaporins, which while mediates water flow, cannot drive directional water flow. If the osmotic engine model is correct, then ion channels such as NHE1 are the driving force for water flow. Indeed this water is shown in previous studies. Moreover, NHE1 can drive water intake because the export of H+ leads to increased HCO3 due to the reaction between CO2+H2O, which increases the cytoplasmic osmolarity (see Li, Zhou and Sun, Frontiers in Cell Dev. Bio. 2021). If NHE cannot be easily perturbed in zebrafish, it might be of interest to perturb Cl channels such as SWELL1, which was recently shown to work together with NHE (see Zhang, et al, Nat. Comm. 2022).
(2) In some places the discussion seems a little confusing where the text goes from hydrostatic pressure to osmotic gradient. It might improve the paper if some background is given. For example, mention water flow follows osmotic gradients, which will build up hydrostatic pressure. The osmotic gradients across the membrane are generated by active ion exchangers. This point is often confused in literature and somewhere in the intro, this could be made clearer.
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Reviewer #2 (Public Review):
Summary:
Directional migration is an integral aspect of sprouting angiogenesis and requires a cell to change its shape and sense a chemotactic or growth factor stimulus. Kondrychyn I. et al. provide data that indicate a requirement for zebrafish aquaporins 1 and 8, in cellular water inflow and sprouting angiogenesis. Zebrafish mutants lacking aqp1a.1 and aqp8a.1 have significantly lower tip cell volume and migration velocity, which delays vascular development. Inhibition of actin formation and filopodia dynamics further aggravates this phenotype. The link between water inflow, hydrostatic pressure, and actin dynamics driving endothelial cell sprouting and migration during angiogenesis is highly novel.
Strengths:
The zebrafish genetics, microscopy imaging, and measurements performed are of very high quality. The study data and interpretations are very well-presented in this manuscript.
Weaknesses:
Some of the findings and interpretations could be strengthened by additional measurements and further discussion. Also, a better comparison and integration of the authors' findings, with other previously published findings in mice and zebrafish would strengthen the paper.
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Reviewer #3 (Public Review):
Summary:
Kondrychyn and colleagues describe the contribution of two Aquaporins Aqp1a.1 and Aqp8a.1 towards angiogenic sprouting in the zebrafish embryo. By whole-mount in situ hybridization, RNAscope, and scRNA-seq, they show that both genes are expressed in endothelial cells in partly overlapping spatiotemporal patterns. Pharmacological inhibition experiments indicate a requirement for VEGR2 signaling (but not Notch) in transcriptional activation.
To assess the role of both genes during vascular development the authors generate genetic mutations. While homozygous single mutants appear less affected, aqp1a.1;aqp8a.1 double mutants exhibit severe defects in EC sprouting and ISV formation.
At the cellular level, the aquaporin mutants display a reduction of filopodia in number and length. Furthermore, a reduction in cell volume is observed indicating a defect in water uptake.
The authors conclude, that polarized water uptake mediated by aquaporins is required for the initiation of endothelial sprouting and (tip) cell migration during ISV formation. They further propose that water influx increases hydrostatic pressure within the cells which may facilitate actin polymerization and formation membrane protrusions.
Strengths:
The authors provide a detailed analysis of Aqp1a.1 and Aqp8a.1 during blood vessel formation in vivo, using zebrafish intersomitic vessels as a model. State-of-the-art imaging demonstrates an essential role in aquaporins in different aspects of endothelial cell activation and migration during angiogenesis.
Weaknesses:
With respect to the connection between Aqp1/8 and actin polymerization/filopodia formation, the evidence appears preliminary and the authors' interpretation is guided by evidence from other experimental systems.
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Reviewer #1 (Public Review):
Summary:
Heer and Sheffield used 2 photon imaging to dissect the functional contributions of convergent dopamine and noradrenaline inputs to the dorsal hippocampus CA1 in head restrained mice running down a virtual linear path. Mice were trained to collect water reward at the end of the track and on test days, calcium activity was recorded from dopamine (DA) axons originating in ventral tegmental area (VTA, n=7) and noradrenaline axons from the locus coeruleus (LC, n=87) under several conditions. When mice ran laps in a familiar environment, VTA DA axons exhibited ramping activity along the track that correlated with distance to reward and velocity to some extent, while LC input activity remained constant across the track, but correlated invariantly with velocity and time to motion onset. A subset of recordings taken when the reward was removed showed diminished ramping activity in VTA DA axons, but no changes in the LC axons, confirming that DA axon activity is locked to reward availability. When mice were subsequently introduced to a new environment, the ramping to reward activity in the DA axons disappeared, while LC axons showed a dramatic increase in activity lasting 90s (6 laps) following the environment switch. In the final analysis, the authors sought to disentangle LC axon activity induced by novelty vs. behavioral changes induced by novelty by removing periods in which animals were immobile and established that the activity observed in the first 2 laps reflected novelty-induced signal in LC axons.
The revised manuscript included additional evidence of increased (but transient) signal in LC axons after a transition to a novel environment during periods of immobility, and also that a change from dark to familiar environment induces a peak in LC axon activity, showing that LC input to dCA1 may not solely signal novelty.
Strengths:
The results presented in this manuscript provide insights into the specific contributions of catecholaminergic input to the dorsal hippocampus CA1 during spatial navigation in a rewarded virtual environment, offering a detailed analysis at the resolution of single axons. The data analysis is thorough and possible confounding variables and data interpretation are carefully considered.
The authors have addressed my concerns in a thorough manner. The reviewer also appreciates the increased transparency of reporting in the revised manuscript.
Weaknesses:
Listed below are some remaining comments.<br /> The increase in LC activity with any change in environment (from familiar to novel or from dark to familiar) suggests that LC input acts not solely as a novelty signal, but as a general arousal or salience signal in response to environmental changes. Based on this, I have a couple of questions:
• Is the overall claim that LC input to the dHC signals novelty still valid based on observed findings - as claimed throughout the manuscript?<br /> • Would the omission of a reward be considered a salient change in the environment that activates LC signals, or is the LC not involved with processing reward-related information? Has the activity of LC and VTA axons been analysed in the seconds following reward presentation and/or omission?
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Reviewer #2 (Public Review):
Summary:
The authors used 2-photon Ca2+-imaging to study the activity of ventral tegmental area (VTA) and locus coeruleus (LC) axons in the CA1 region of the dorsal hippocampus in head-fixed male mice moving on linear paths in virtual reality (VR) environments.
The main findings were as follows:<br /> - In a familiar environment, activity of both VTA axons and LC axons increased with the mice's running speed on the Styrofoam wheel, with which they could move along a linear track through a VR environment.<br /> - VTA, but not LC, axons showed marked reward position-related activity, showing a ramping-up of activity when mice approached a learned reward position.<br /> - In contrast, activity of LC axons ramped up before initiation of movement on the Styrofoam wheel.<br /> - In addition, exposure to a novel VR environment increased LC axon activity, but not VTA axon activity.
Overall, the study shows that the activity of catecholaminergic axons from VTA and LC to dorsal hippocampal CA1 can partly reflect distinct environmental, behavioral and cognitive factors. Whereas both VTA and LC activity reflected running speed, VTA, but not LC axon activity reflected the approach of a learned reward and LC, but not VTA, axon activity reflected initiation of running and novelty of the VR environment.
I have no specific expertise with respect to 2-photon imaging, so cannot evaluate the validity of the specific methods used to collect and analyse 2-photon calcium imaging data of axonal activity.
Strengths:
(1) Using a state-of-the-art approach to record separately the activity of VTA and LC axons with high temporal resolution in awake mice moving through virtual environments, the authors provide convincing evidence that activity of VTA and LC axons projecting to dorsal CA1 reflect partly distinct environmental, behavioral and cognitive factors.
(2) The study will help a) to interpret previous findings on how hippocampal dopamine and norepinephrine or selective manipulations of hippocampal LC or VTA inputs modulate behavior and b) to generate specific hypotheses on the impact of selective manipulations of hippocampal LC or VTA inputs on behavior.
Weaknesses:
(1) The findings are correlational and do not allow strong conclusions on how VTA or LC inputs to dorsal CA1 affect cognition and behavior. However, as indicated above under Strengths, the findings will aid the interpretation of previous findings and help to generate new hypotheses as to how VTA or LC inputs to dorsal CA1 affect distinct cognitive and behavioral functions.
(2) Some aspects of the methodology would benefit from clarification.<br /> First, to help others to better scrutinize, evaluate and potentially to reproduce the research, the authors may wish to check if their reporting follows the ARRIVE (Animal Research: Reporting of In Vivo Experiments) guidelines for the full and transparent reporting of research involving animals (https://arriveguidelines.org/). For example, I think it would be important to include a sample size justification (e.g., based on previous studies, considerations of statistical power, practical considerations or a combination of these factors). The authors should also include the provenance of the mice. Moreover, although I am not an expert in 2-photon imaging, I think it would be useful to provide a clearer description of exclusion criteria for imaging data (see below, Recommendations for the authors).<br /> Second, why were different linear tracks used for studies of VTA and LC axon activity (from line 362)? Could this potentially contribute to the partly distinct activity correlates that were found for VTA and LC axons?<br /> Third, the authors seem to have used two different criteria for defining immobility. Immobility was defined as moving at <5 cm/s for the behavioral analysis in Fig. 3a, but as <0.2 cm/s for the imaging data analysis in Fig. 4 (see legends to these figures and also see Methods, from line 447, line 469, line 498)? I do not understand why, and it would be good if the authors explained this.
(3) In the Results section (from line 182) the authors convincingly addressed the possibility that less time spent immobile in the novel environment may have contributed to the novelty-induced increase of LC axon activity in dorsal CA1 (Fig. 4). In addition, initially (for the first 2-4 laps), the mice also ran more slowly in the novel environment (Fig. 3aIII, top panel). Given that LC and VTA axon activity were both increasing with velocity (Fig. 1F), reduced velocity in the novel environment may have reduced LC and VTA axon activity, but this possibility was not addressed. Reduced LC axon activity in the novel environment could have blunted the novelty-induced increase. More importantly, any potential novelty-induced increase in VTA axon activity could have been masked by decreases in VTA axon activity due to reduced velocity. The latter may help to explain the discrepancy between the present study and previous findings that VTA neuron firing was increased by novelty (see Discussion, from line 243). It may be useful for the authors to address these possibilities based on their data in the Results section, or to consider them in their Discussion.
(4) Sensory properties of the water reward, which the mice may be able to detect, could account for reward-related activity of VTA axons (instead of an expectation of reward). Do the authors have evidence that this is not the case? Occasional probe trials, intermixed with rewarded trials, could be used to test for this possibility.
REVIEW OF THE REVISED MANUSCRIPT<br /> I thank the authors for their responses addressing some of the weaknesses I raised in my original comments.
Regarding their clarification of some methodological issues [Point 2) above], I have a few additional comments:<br /> - I appreciate that the authors clearly state the sample sizes contributing to the data. However, sample size justifications (e.g. based on previous studies, considerations of statistical power, practical considerations or a combination of these factors) are still lacking.<br /> - It is good that the authors have now clearly indicated how many mice they excluded due to lack of GCaMP expression or due to failure to reach the behavioral criteria. They also indicated that they discarded some of the collected datasets, based on the visual assessment of imaging sessions and the registration metrics output by suite2p. I appreciate that this may be common practice (although I am not using 2-photon imaging myself). However, I note that to minimize the risk of experimenter bias and improve reproducibility, it would be preferable to have more clearly defined quantitative criteria for such exclusions.<br /> - The authors clarified in their response why they used two different linear tracks for their studies of VTA and LC axon activity. I would encourage them to include this clarification in the manuscript. From the authors' response, I understand that they chose the different track lengths to facilitate comparison to previous studies involving LC and VTA axon recordings. However, given that the present paper aimed to compare LC and VTA axon recordings, the use of different track lengths for LC and VTA axon recordings remains a limitation of the present paper.
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Reviewer #3 (Public Review):
Summary:
Heer and Sheffield provide a well-written manuscript that clearly articulates the theoretical motivation to investigate specific catecholaminergic projections to dorsal CA1 of the hippocampus during a reward-based behavior. Using 2-photon calcium imaging in two groups of cre transgenic mice, the authors examine activity of VTA-CA1 dopamine and LC-CA1 noradrenergic axons during reward seeking in a linear track virtual reality (VR) task. The authors provide a descriptive account of VTA and LC activities during walking, approach to reward, and environment change. Their results demonstrate LC-CA1 axons are activated by walking onset, modulated by walking velocity, and heighten their activity during environment change. In contrast, VTA-CA1 axons were most activated during approach to reward locations. Together the authors provide a functional dissociation between these catecholamine projections to CA1. A major strength to their approach is the methodological rigor of 2-photon recording, data processing, and analysis approaches to accommodate their unequal LC-CA1 and VTA-CA1 sample sizes. These important systems neuroscience studies provide solid evidence that will contribute to the broader field of navigation and memory.
Weaknesses:
The conclusions of this manuscript are mostly well supported by the data. However, increasing the sample size of the VTA-CA1 group and using experimental methods that are identical among LC-CA1 and VTA-CA1 groups would help to fully support the author's conclusions.
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