- Nov 2022
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www.zylstra.org www.zylstra.org
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annotations of "10 Thoughts After 100 Annotations in Hypothes.is"
I love that you've got a comments heading for Hypothes.is annotations on your post @tonz! This is awesome.
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Annotations are the first step of getting useful insights into my notes. This makes it a prerequisite to be able to capture annotations in my note making tool Obsidian, otherwise Hypothes.is is just another silo you’re wasting time on. Luckily h. isn’t meant as a silo and has an API. Using the API and the Hypothes.is-to-Obsidian plugin all my annotations are available to me locally.
This is key - exporting annotations via the API to either public commonplace books (Chris A Style) or to a private knowledge store seems to be pretty common.
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In the same category of integrating h. into my pkm workflows, falls the interaction between h. and Zotero, especially now that Zotero has its own storage of annotations of PDFs in my library. It might be of interest to be able to share those annotations, for a more complete overview of what I’m annotating. Either directly from Zotero, or by way of my notes in Obsidian (Zotero annotatins end up there in the end)
I've been thinking about this exact same flow. Given that I'm mostly annotating scientific papers I got from open access journals I was wondering whether there might be some way to syndicate my zotero annotations back to h via a script.
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- Sep 2022
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www.zylstra.org www.zylstra.org
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so I save web archive links too as an annotation
I do a similar thing—everything I annotate in Hypothesis (or simply bookmark with Pinboard) is saved in Wayback. I've considered adding a perma.cc subscription, but $170/year seems a little steep for 100 links/month.
Grabbing a local Markdown copy of articles to store locally is an interesting idea...one worth considering; thanks!
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If you use h., I’d be interested to hear about it.
I do! 525 annotations since 2012, but I took a long break and only started re-using it late last year. The social part of annotations has been useful for me in a few cases, but for the most part I annotate to get quotes and my thoughts about them into my own Obsidian vault. (I don't use an Obsidian plugin...instead I side-load the Markdown files with a Python script.) I haven't yet added Hypothesis to my blog, but it is on my list of things to do.
I'll second what Colby said in an earlier comment: Peter Hagen's work on annotations.lindylearn.io has been invaluable in expanding the quality content that crosses my screen.
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Some other things:
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If I visit https://www.zylstra.org/blog/ and content from e.g. this blog post https://www.zylstra.org/blog/2022/09/10-thoughts-after-100-annotations-in-hypothes-is/ has been inlined, Hypothesis doesn't know how to deal with this—it doesn't know that the annotations that apply to the latter can also be layered onto the inlined content at /blog/. This is a minor quibble insofar as you can measure it on terms of mere convenience. Less minor, however, is that if a user attaches their annotations to /blog/, then it will eventually be orphaned (as more posts are written and the now-current ones get bumped off the page), and will never appear in the correct place on the actual post.
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When people annotate Wikipedia there's a high likelihood that the annotation will become orphaned as the content changes, even though the version that was actually annotated will usually be available from the article history.
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has 800 in six years
public annotations... a vast majority of my annotations are private, as I teach with Hypothesis, have done so for years, and all those comments (with students) are private to groups. and thanks for the shoutout ;)
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Despite the social nature of h., discovery is very difficult. Purposefully ‘finding the others’ is mostly impossible.
This was Peter's motivation to create annotations.lindylearn.io.
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H.’s marketing director has 1348 public annotations over almost 6 years, its founder 1200 in a decade.
Public ones, at least.
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Fellow IndieWeb netizen Maya
We are neighbors! (I started my blogroll by copying yours, so I could be fairly be called your imitator)
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Another path of integration to think about is sharing annotated links from h. to my blog or the other way around. I blog links with a general annotation at times (example). These bloggable links I could grab from h. where I bookmark things in similar ways (example), usually to annotate further later on. I notice myself thinking I should do both, but unless I could do that simultaneously I won’t do such a thing twice.
Many, many, many of my blog posts start their life as annotations that I then cut down or expand. I find that this helps me make sense of the habit of annotation; you make the best use of the tool that's most in your hand.
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