- Nov 2023
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inquiringmind.com inquiringmind.com
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Otherwise we’d be second-guessing ourselves at every moment: Who is deciding to buy a house or have a child? FV: That’s right. Every decision would be suspect. So evolution has designed you so that you just want to hurry on with your solidified self. That is what the sense of being a separate organism is all about.
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quote: Fransisco Verella
- Evolution has designed you so that you just want to hurry on with your solidified self. They is what the sense of being a separate organism is about.
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date: 1999
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- Verella claims evolution has designed us to have no self awareness of no-self, the origins of the self.
- even this phrase seems like an oxymoron 'self awareness of no-self!'
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- how would a less complex, more primitive life form even have self awareness? What does that mean biologically? At that most rudimentary level, I suppose it would mean sensory feedback signals,
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- Does this imply that (emotionally or affectively) awakening to your origins of self leads to second guessing ourselves as well? From observation of the behaviour of awakened individuals, this does not seem to be the case. Rather, authentically awakens individuals appear to be associated with much higher levels of wisdom and compassion, which would seem to confer evolutionary fitness
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: Why do you think it is so hard for people to awaken to the true nature of things, even after being told of scientific research or after having a personal experience of no-self? FV: My hypothesis is that evolution has shaped human beings to disregard the basic sources of our being. We were built to forget how we were put together.
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- Verella makes the interesting claim that evolution designer is to be blind to our lack of self
- in fact, major evolutionary transitions in individuality embed the creation of a new higher order individual at each major stage of transition.
- More fundamentally, major evolutionary transitions to individuals at each level need to define a biological self through a new physiological boundary between what constitutes a new unitary individual "self" (our inner world) and the rest of the environment ( our new outer world)
- It will be interesting to see how Verella's claim reconcile with that
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In some sense, a heightened degree of self-awareness is antievolutionary.
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quote: Fransisco Verella
- In some sense, a heightened degree of self-awareness is anti evolutionary
- date: 1999
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- Jan 2022
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www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
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Simone de Beauvoir said that when she became an atheist, it felt like the world had fallen silent.
source?
Is there a link to religion and the connection and potential conversation provided by it that provides an evolutionary advantage? Is there a psychological change in attention or self-consciousness?
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- Dec 2021
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there's an exception ah yes indeed there is an exception to that which is largely 00:08:28 when you're talking to someone else so in conversation and in dialogue you're actually can maintain consciousness for very long periods of time well which is why you need to imagine you're talking 00:08:41 to someone else to really be able to think out a problem
Humans in general have a seven second window of self-consciousness. (What is the reference for this? Double check it.) The exception is when one is in conversation with someone else, and then people have much longer spans of self-consciousness.
I'm left to wonder if this is a useful fact for writing in the margins in books or into one's notebook, commonplace book, or zettelkasten? By having a conversation with yourself, or more specifically with the imaginary author you're annotating or if you prefer to frame it as a conversation with your zettelkasten, one expands their self-consciousness for much longer periods of time? What benefit does this have for the individual? What benefit for humanity in aggregate?
Is it this fact or just coincidence that much early philosophy was done as dialectic?
From an orality perspective, this makes it much more useful to talk to one's surroundings or objects like rocks. Did mnemonic techniques help give rise to our ability to be more self-conscious as a species? Is it like a muscle that we've been slowly and evolutionarily exercising for 250,000 years?
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- Oct 2021
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ndpr.nd.edu ndpr.nd.edu
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Plessner finds in the dynamics of double aspectivity the constitution of a kind of self. Living entities develop which means they both lead away into something new and yet persist as what they are. It is in their constant becoming Other that they become themselves and constitute and sustain a "form-idea." Plessner's early concept of development, is capacious enough (unlike some more recent formulations that presume multi-cellularity) to characterize even single celled life-forms.
From Plessner's perspective, even a cell has a constitution of a self.
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- Jul 2020
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psyarxiv.com psyarxiv.com
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Salvador, C., Kraus, B., Ackerman, J., Gelfand, M., & Kitayama, S. (2020, April 10). Interdependent Self-Construal Predicts Complacency Under Pathogen Threat: An Electrocortical Investigation. https://doi.org/10.31234/osf.io/t5pg6
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- Nov 2015
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christmind.info christmind.info
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You can’t get outside of your Self; therefore, you aren’t outside of your Self. This means that the devolution and Evolution that you are experiencing is in total consonance with You. What is threatening you (Being) is what is moving you to the point of not being threatened again.
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