Not all eeting notes need be transformed into main notes. For bestresults, practice non-attachment when it comes to eeting notes.
What is non-attachment?
What is he attempting to say here?
Not all eeting notes need be transformed into main notes. For bestresults, practice non-attachment when it comes to eeting notes.
What is non-attachment?
What is he attempting to say here?
, writing, even in the form ofshort notes, helps us understand what we think we know.
What about using the notes for comparison and/or contrast of ideas?
To write is to learn.1
Externalizing your thoughts through writing will both challengeand reinforce your beliefs
when putting thoughts into words. Words that remain in our head are freeto exist independent of how they’re used by other people.
On one level, the reason is obvious: accountability. There’s a lot at stake...
except somehow for Donald J. Trump and some in identity politics...
How do they get around it? system 1 vs system 2
A small price for years ofideative connectivity.
ideative connectivity sounds fun, but ???<br /> Sounds like a Nick Milo neologism...
potentially a stab at combinatorial creativity?
e main note has a title that tells you about the idea found in the note
daily notes
process your inbox
How to get round the idea of processing which is a stumbling block for fun?
processed notes are akin to the amount of nutritive value in processed food...
Engagingwith the slip box should feel exciting, not anxiety-producing.
I often find that people who discuss "workflows" and the idea of "processing" their notes are the ones who are falling trap to the anxiety-producing side of the work.
BD should have found more exciting words for "processing" which he uses two more times in the next paragraph.
This relates to Luhmann's quote about only doing what is easy/fun/flow:<br /> - https://hypothes.is/a/TQyC1q1HEe2J9fOtlKPXmA<br /> - https://hypothes.is/a/EyKrfK1WEe2RpEuwUuFA7A
Compare: - being trapped in the box: https://hypothes.is/a/AY7ABO0qEeympasqOZHoMQ - idea of drudgery in the phrase "word processing"
We use the term“ eeting notes” not because they’re of a particularly high value, but becauseof the value we place on the notes they’ll become.
There are some fleeting ideas which are truly great and the entire purpose of writing them down is to maintain their value. ("I was in the bath one day...") Others ideas aren't particularly genius, but may need to be kept for later use or actionability. Still other ideas are just useless and these get flushed out in the wash.
BD doesn't do an exceptional job of looking at the entirety of the spectrum of ideas here, which could be useful and illustrative, but instead focuses on moving things toward what he's calling "main notes", and even these can have different levels of value to a particular person.
e premise is simple yet profound.
BD seems to sideline PKM, but is using the underlying ideas to further his claim that we're forgetful, so capturing thoughts on paper is worthwhile. Seems a bit disingenuous. Maybe sideline the "religious zeal" and take what you need to build your argument here instead?
“ e mind is for having ideas,not holding them.”7 Taken from David Allen’s seminal text on productivity,Getting ings Done, this idea, above all others, binds lawyers to Luddites,helping thousands who struggle to put ideas into action.
I really don't like this David Allen quote which is often seen in these spaces. It's usually used by people who haven't spent any time training their memory.
I'll give BD the benefit of the doubt that the entirety of this PKM paragraph is sidelining the "PKM scene" altogether.
“Personal knowledge management,” or “PKM” as it’s o en called,provides an umbrella under which people of disparate vocations engage indiscourse surrounding not only notes and note-taking, but every niche andnuance of managing information.
Is he poking fun at the PKM space here? This non-definition definition would seem to be a subtle jab certainly.
Fleeting notes
I've never like the phrase fleeting notes, though it does serve a purpose. It's really a conflation (or portmanteau) of two separate ideas: fleeting ideas and writing them down/capturing them quickly so that they're no longer fleeting. Sort of a noun/verb in form.
A Note on Terminology
glad that he's got a section on coming to terms with some of the space, but he's only really looking at recent terminology since about 2013 and even more specifically terminology from Ahrens and how it's been used/misused.
In thisbook, a er every “how-to” is the “why-so,”
Organization of the book gives preference of the practical ("how-to") over the theoretical ("why-so").
the ideas we capture, re ne, connect,and search for in our zettelkasten.
An alternate stating of the process: 1. capture<br /> 2. refine<br /> 3. connect<br /> 4. search
cross-reference earlier process: https://hypothes.is/a/HgcILIvyEe-OfdOArKZxGg
Connections between thoughts leads to new ideas, whichreinforce what we nd interesting in the world, and what we decide tocapture from it.
Like a rhizome, itwill become a form of controlled chaos,
System
card system ⇒ system theory
In the early 1900s it was very common, especially in English speaking countries to call these note taking/paper database systems "card systems". Is it a wonder then that they may have helped to create "systems theory"?
In particular, look at Niklas Luhmann's work as well as Ross Ashby.
Example of a fleeting note triggered by a single word in a context, but with thoughts not relating at all to the specifics of the particular work.
“analog” zettelkästen, although in this book I use theterm “paper-based.”
aside: interesting that he uses the umlaut here, but not consistently other places.
e term comes from German, usuallytranslated as “slip box” or “note box,” less o en, “card catalog,”
also card index and card system (early 1900s)
practices related to having and capturing thoughts (chapters 1and 2); re ning thoughts into clear ideas that can be repurposed (chapter 3);connecting ideas across topics (chapters 4 and 5); developing theseconnections and making them accessible to you (chapter 6); andtransforming all the above into writing for readers—writing that can bereintegrated back into the system (chapters 7, 8 and 9).
Overview of Bob Doto's suggested process:<br /> 1. having and capturing thoughts<br /> 2. refining thoughts into clear ideas that can be repurposed<br /> 3. connecting ideas across topics<br /> 4. developing connections and making them accessible<br /> 5. transforming notes into writing for readers 6. re-integrating writing back into the system (he lumped this in with 5, but I've broken it out)
How do these steps relate to those of others?
Eg: Miles1905: collect, select, arrange, dictate/write (and broadly composition)
writing as a holistic process
We must beware of a certain craze for collecting which sometimes takespossession of those who make notes.... at is a deplorable practice.—A.G. Sertillanges, O.P., e Intellectual Life
Before he even begins the enterprise, Doto starts off by giving pride of place to a quote by Sertillanges admonishing the reader to beware of over-collecting.
Doto, Bob. A System for Writing: How an Unconventional Approach to Note-Making Can Help You Capture Ideas, Think Wildly, and Write Constantly - A Zettelkasten Primer. 1st ed. New Old Traditions, 2024. https://amzn.to/3ztjrfb.
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For twenty ve years, my relationship to writing was equal parts loveand loathing.
144. See Chris Aldrich’s writings for a comprehensive history of zettelkasten use over the yearsand around the world. https://bo osocko.com/
I love the fact that my personal website is physically the last word in the book and therefore "gets the last word."
9.5 ere Is No One System
You have to love that one of the final sections of the book is "There is No One System". This gives the reader the confidence to explore and experiment to see what works for them.
All rights reserved. No part of this book over two hundred y words maybe reproduced, scanned, or distributed in any printed or electronic formwithout permission. Please cite the author and book when quoting.First Edition: June 2024Printed in the United States of AmericaISBN: 979-8-218-45014-4
Doto wastes no time getting into the most important aspects of note taking. Even before the book has begun, the copyright page in the front matter is getting you ready for what is about to come:
Please cite the author and book when quoting.