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Résumé vidéo [00:00:00][^1^][1] - [00:22:46][^2^][2]: La vidéo présente une session de webinaire organisée par Solidatech, où l'équipe de Cyber Forgo discute de l'intelligence artificielle (IA) et de son utilisation par les associations. Elodie de Solidatech introduit le webinaire et explique les aspects pratiques, suivie par une présentation de Solidatech et ses services pour les associations. L'équipe de Cyber Forgo partage ensuite des exemples d'utilisation de l'IA générative et des conseils pour son utilisation sécurisée et efficace.

Points forts: + [00:00:00][^3^][3] Introduction et objectifs du webinaire * Présentation par Elodie de Solidatech * Discussion sur l'IA par Cyber Forgo + [00:02:15][^4^][4] Présentation de Solidatech * Services numériques pour associations * Histoire et mission de Solidatech + [00:06:19][^5^][5] Exemples d'utilisation de l'IA générative * Utilité de l'IA pour les associations * Conseils pour une utilisation responsable + [00:09:35][^6^][6] Risques et précautions d'usage de l'IA * Importance de la sécurité et de l'éthique * Astuces pour éviter les pièges de l'IA Résumé de la vidéo [00:22:48][^1^][1] - [00:49:22][^2^][2]: La vidéo présente l'association Data for Good qui soutient des projets technologiques à impact social. Elle met en lumière l'utilisation de l'IA pour extraire des données, analyser des images et accélérer le développement technique avec des ressources limitées.

Points forts: + [00:22:48][^3^][3] Structure de Data for Good * Saisons de projets tech * Recrutement envisagé + [00:24:56][^4^][4] Extraction de données non structurées * Observatoire sur l'évasion fiscale + [00:25:09][^5^][5] Analyse d'image * Projets environnementaux * Détection d'incendies et pollution plastique + [00:25:35][^6^][6] Développements techniques complexes * Projets ambitieux avec petites équipes + [00:30:50][^7^][7] Projet Carbon Bombs * Visualisation de mégaprojets fossiles + [00:32:16][^8^][8] Risques de l'IA générative * Biais, fausses informations, fuites de données + [00:38:23][^9^][9] Conseils pour utiliser l'IA générative * Écrire des requêtes claires * Ne pas divulguer d'informations personnelles * Vérifier les réponses obtenues Résumé de la vidéo 00:49:23 - 01:04:05 : La vidéo aborde l'écriture de prompts, la confidentialité des données avec les outils génératifs, et l'utilisation de l'IA dans les associations. Elle souligne l'importance de la transparence et de la sécurité des données.

Points clés : + [00:49:23][^1^][1] Écriture de prompts * Conseils pour construire des requêtes + [00:50:09][^2^][2] Applications pour prompts * Utiliser des applis pour créer des requêtes + [00:51:13][^3^][3] Conseils sur les requêtes * Créer ses propres requêtes pour mieux comprendre l'outil + [00:52:01][^4^][4] Sécurité des données * Risques liés à l'utilisation des outils génératifs + [00:54:06][^5^][5] Confidentialité et IA * Prudence avec les informations personnelles + [00:57:18][^6^][6] IA pour FAQ * Réflexion sur l'utilisation de l'IA pour améliorer les FAQ

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As Walter Ong’s bibliographic studies have shown, the rise of English Ramism did not begin until the 1570s and did not take off until the 1580s, when seven editions of Ramus’s Dialectica were published (Rhetoric,Romance 85-86).

Or nothing but material difference (paper) between them ;)

Like kmurphy1, I was thinking Ong would likely disagree on this matter, but Astell does make room for their differences as "talents which do not always meet." For all the functional differences (oral vs pen and paper, intangible vs tangible), does Astell see them both as means of communication and therefore only different in those functions?

I think Ong would take issue with the notion that there is no "material difference" between speaking and writing. Writing is a "technology" so to speak, and thus presents itself differently than mere thought through speaking. One can go back and edit writing, whereas orality is not so easily done.

Ong talks about this on Orality and Literacy--if an idea is written down, it is understood as being more "real" than ideas that are spoken. I wonder how this translates into digital communication?

I have never thought of the idea of trusting language. What would walter ong think?

Cf. Ong's examination of how literacy changes how we think

Ong argues that writing in general (not just self-reflective writing) is isolating. In his "Writing Is a Technology that Restructures Thought," he says, "Writing is diaeretic. It divides and distances, and it divides and distances all sorts of things in all sorts of ways," one of which is the way the writer becomes reclusive and divided from the world when caught up in the act of thinking and writing.

Two things: first, in other writings by Ong where he uses this situation, he cites the loss of Roman baby talk, a purely oral, mostly feminine form of the language that we have forever lost to history. Second, this also reminds me of Nina Baym's "Melodramas of Beset Manhood," and her assertion of the male "literature" and female "best seller" and how historically they've been opposed.

Former SLU faculty and a really remarkable guy. I've been trawling through the archives and interviewing former colleagues and students of Ong for an ongoing project, and I'm continuously struck by the personality that comes across. You don't really see it in his published works, but his lectures have these corny, not-really-a-joke jokes ("it's agreed that these epic poems were either written by Homer, or by another man of the same name") in them. Also, this essay is a good example of him touching on history, archaeology, musicology, ancient Greek, and a bit of Freud, so if you're like me and a hugely disorganized mess of interests, Ong's a lot of fun.

Seriously, if you get the chance, check out the archives, digitized or the whole thing. You can find his poetry from before the US entered WW2 all the way to discussions about flame wars in the early 90s.

I feel that Ong addresses this, though? He draws a lot from McLuhan's point that fascism emerged from radio broadcasts, and while skimming my Ong books, I'm not finding much on the telephone, he certainly looks at technologically-mediated orality as something distinct from the usual paradigm?

I have never been able to reconcile this with Ong's approach, that even writing involves sounding words out in your head. The text here is making it out that Derrida's only using it as an example, that both are equally at a remove, which, fair enough, but I'm not seeing how writing has primacy over speech. Bail me out here, y'all.

"A script in the sense of true writing, as understood here, does not consist of mere pictures, of representations of things, but is a representation of an utterance, of words that someone says or is imagined to say."

-Ong

Point raised by Fr. Ong in The Presence of the Word "With the appearance of what we have called the sound-sight split in Latin, that stream of the language which developed into the modern romance vernaculars remained in use in the home, but the other stream known as Learned Latin, which moved only in artificially controlled channels through the male world of the schools was no longer anyone's mother tongue, in a quite literal sense." There was an active language-world for women in ancient Rome, but its one that was not recorded, and is now lost to time.

Hmmmm, so how would this apply to our hostile audiences from two weeks ago? Those were audiences for oral arguments, rather than readers, but presumably the relationship would be similar. Essentially, I suppose I am asking what Ong would say in response to an author who is deliberately writing to an unreceptive audience.

I've been toiling away in the online Ong Archives, and this seems to really call for a pairing. I'm wary to commit to it, because I have no idea about the sort of literacies and its gender divide at the time, but the division of facts from lived experience is something Ong points to as part of the shift from manuscript to print culture. Still, with women barred from much of academia, most of their written life would logically come from novels and letters more than textbooks and manuals.