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    1. On 2021-10-04 17:19:09, user Bearwallow wrote:

      Thank you for this interesting study. Well done! Has it yet been peer reviewed yet? or are your conclusions too easy and cost effective to implement? The world medical industry seems to prefer complicated expensive patented experimental "solutions". I so hope your study receives the attention it deserves. <br /> The dose of honey seems quite large. 1gm/kg/day- just asking- just making sure, is this correct? I saw one other study used 0.5 gm/kg/day. Thank you and keep making your useful discoveries.

    1. On 2021-10-05 13:49:34, user helene banoun wrote:

      This study does not take into account infections between dose 1 and dose 2. Indeed, the vaccinated did not produce enough antibodies during this period and are therefore not considered as vaccinated; but as the vaccination takes place during an epidemic period, we cannot afford to write off the infections taking place during this crucial period.<br /> Indeed, ADE seems to cause post-vaccination outbreaks according to other studies (e.g., https://www.medrxiv.org/con... "https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.05.27.21257583v1)")

    1. On 2021-10-09 23:18:22, user kdrl nakle wrote:

      On the contrary, this research has no practical value whatsoever as we surely won't be seeking polio vaccination against SARS-CoV-2. However it may have a theoretical value in the way to explain why the spread of one virus can inhibit the spread of another.

    1. On 2021-10-12 07:42:23, user Ralph Feltens wrote:

      One conclusion that can not be drawn from this study is that vaccination (with a mRNA-based Covid-19 Vaccine) provides stronger immunity than a SARS-CoV-2 infection.<br /> In contrast to an infection with the virus, with the mRNA-based vaccine only antibodies against the spike protein are produced.

      And T- and B-cell-based immunity is another topic altogether ...

    1. On 2021-10-16 15:36:50, user Alex wrote:

      Clearly there are some very logical arguments here and whilst I think it’s absolutely logical that having had COVID is the best defence against COVID and as the virus is in the environment so we are likely to encounter it again can someone tell me why vaccines are effectively being forced on people and recommended for children even though a large number have had the virus and to date is very low risk?

    1. On 2021-10-21 21:51:01, user CDSL JHSPH wrote:

      Thank you for sharing your clinical study! I greatly enjoyed reading your experimental design and wanted to compliment the impeccable organizational flow of this manuscript. I also appreciated the information discussed in the introduction, since I wasn't fully aware of the details regarding BA metabolism and the link it had to the microbiome. I noticed in the section of the results discussing "age related changes in bile acid and microbiome profiles" figure 2D was mentioned twice, if I am not mistaken I believe figure 2C shows an increasing trend with age. I was also wondering whether you encountered any outliers in the P2Ab group, that may have been omitted due to an insignificant contribution, that did not show a significant decrease in conjugated bile acids over time? If there were any, could this be due to confounding lifestyle factors? Once again, this was a very interesting experiment and i'm hoping to see larger studies conducted in the future!

    2. On 2021-10-26 03:27:22, user Rahi Brahmbhatt wrote:

      Dear authors,

      Firstly, thank you to the authors for sharing this commendable work. The manuscript is well written and signifies an important contribution to the field. Furthering research on the effects of the gut microbiome on bile acid metabolism is groundbreaking for the understanding of many metabolic and immune disorders. The introduction and discussion sections were the absolute powerhouses of this manuscript. They both displayed tactics that will help reach a broad audience, such as detailed background information and the connection of bile acid regulation to several high profile metabolic disorders. Furthermore, the specialization of the gut microbiome effects on bile acid regulation on type one diabetes offers great hope in further understanding the pathogenesis of T1D. Both the introduction and discussion sections were clear and easy to follow, and I greatly appreciated the acknowledgement of limitations and areas to improve in future studies.

      However, a few minor points to consider in the methods, figures, and results section. In the experimental design conducted, is there any standardization done to account for the disproportionate sample sizes? Could the inclusion of more subjects that progressed to single or multiple autoantibodies impact the findings for the P2Ab group? In the comparisons between the P2Ab group and the controls, how this gap in sample size (nearly double the amount of CTR subjects) accounted for? Furthermore, a combination of the clinical study setting of the methods section and first section of the results may lead to a clearly understanding of the experimental design as a whole. Currently, the first result seems to repeat the initial study set up than indicate a result from the set up. Also, there is a section in the results that seems to have incorrectly identified 2C as 2D in the written section. Lastly, if possible a condensification and simplification of figures 4 and 5 may allow for a clearer understanding of how bile acid profiles change the regulation of bile acid metabolism in progression to islet immunity. Perhaps a figure correlating the changes in the profile and it's direct change in the metabolism pathways as displayed in figure 3 would help in this understanding.

      Finally, this manuscript opens up many pathways for further gut-microbiome-bile acid regulation studies. The suggestion of incorporating lifestyle factors such as diet and environmental factors that impact the gut microbiome allows for a coherent and logical flow of how research in this field may progress. Once again the paper was an excellent concept and more studies should be done to further our understanding of the gut microbiome's contribution to islet autoimmunity. I look forward to seeing this paper post publication and thank you for your contribution to science!

    1. On 2021-10-23 19:26:47, user kdrl nakle wrote:

      Not going into formulas used but the premise is good and last paragraph of conclusion in regard to boosters is also very good argument.

    1. On 2020-05-25 21:46:44, user ben marafino wrote:

      Interesting finding. However, the study, as designed currently, does not exclude the possibility that the drop in mortality rate in April was principally driven by increased testing picking up more out-of-hospital, and thus less severe, cases. What proportion of the sample was hospitalized in April versus March?

    1. On 2020-05-26 09:04:49, user Plonit Almonit wrote:

      When comparing CFR rates of different countries, the differing testing regimes need to be taken in account (minimally by including the highly differing positive rates per test in the calculation in some way.) A raw data comparison doesn't make much sense.

    1. On 2020-05-27 05:29:08, user Mark van Loosdrecht wrote:

      Nice work congratulations. Measuring in thickened sludge would have the disadvantage of a certain time delay, primary sludge is more direct related to the load of the day of sampling and likely therefore more suitable? Could you establish if there was viral RNA decay between primary sludge and thickened sludge? Any indication if virus was infective?

    1. On 2020-05-30 18:13:16, user Sam Wheeler wrote:

      What's the result for different types of masks? Surgical mask, FFP3 mask, FFP2 = KN95 = N95 mask? The most well known brands like 3M, vs. unknown brands?

    1. On 2020-06-02 14:41:57, user Matthew Healy wrote:

      If at least some of the institutions participating in a seroprevalence study have access to stored blood samples collected before December 2019, those could also be used as negative controls.

    1. On 2020-06-02 15:13:39, user Sinai Immunol Review Project wrote:

      Title <br /> Serum protein profiling reveals a landscape of inflammation and immune signaling in early-stage COVID-19 infection

      Keywords<br /> • Serum Profiling<br /> • Cytokines<br /> • Protein array<br /> • CCL2<br /> • CXCL10

      Main Findings<br /> In this preprint Hou et al., analyze serological immune mediators and other proteins from individuals with early COVID-19 symptoms using an antibody microarray that detects 532 target proteins. Patients were classified as COVID-19 (n=13) or influenza (n=15) based on positive RT PCR test for SARS-CoV-2 RNA (COVID-19) or FluA, FluB, RSV RNA (all classified as influenza group).<br /> 88 up-regulated and 37 down-regulated proteins were identified by comparing COVID-19 and influenza patient groups (p-value < 0.05). Some of those up-regulated ytyl34proteins were reported before, such as IFN-????, IL-6, CXCL8, CCL2, CXCL10 and some that were not previously associated with COVID-19, such as IL-20, CCL27 and IL-21. Complement proteins C1R and C7, as well as PLG were found to be reduced in COVID-19 patients.

      After performing a correlation analysis of the differentially upregulated proteins and clinical data, the authors found a positive correlation between expression of several proteins in the CCL2 and CXCL10 signaling pathways and clinical parameters typically related to liver and renal function, myocardial injury, inflammation and infection, as well as neutrophils counts. Conversely, most of these same proteins show a negative correlation with lymphocyte counts.

      Limitations<br /> The control “influenza group” had patients negative for influenza virus but positive for RSV, and thus the nomenclature should be revised. As noted by the authors, a larger cohort should be used to validate findings. There is no multivariate analysis, and identification of independent or confounding variables. Even though several proteins were differentially expressed between the patient groups, there was significant overlap between the groups, which may preclude the use of any single protein as a biomarker. Data on clinical variables should have been included in main figure. It is unclear why the authors annotated serum proteins in cellular components. Proteins in CCL2 and CXCL10 interaction network are largely overlapping, but the authors do not emphasize it. <br /> Authors didn’t show lymphocyte and neutrophil counts. Since it is known that severe COVID-19 patients can present lymphopenia and neutrophilia, it would be important to have this information in their cohort as they are correlating protein levels with neutrophils and lymphocytes.<br /> Authors claim that CCL2 can act as an autocrine factor that promotes viral replication in infected macrophages, and cite one paper with HIV, but authors should discuss that this chemokine recruits monocytes to the site of infection and then could contribute to the increased inflammatory response related to COVID-19.

      Significance<br /> This study shows the potential use protein array to simultaneously identify many different proteins in serum of COVID-19 patients.<br /> The authors identify several differentially expressed proteins (potential biomarkers) and correlate them with clinical indices that give insights on possible therapy targets in COVID-19.

      Credit<br /> Reviewed by Alessandra Soares-Schanoski as part of a project by students, postdocs and faculty at the Immunology Institute of the Icahn School of Medicine, Mount Sinai.

    1. On 2020-06-07 14:24:04, user kenneth katz wrote:

      ABO epitopes are post-translational modifications (diifferent patterns of glycosylation). The S protein is highly glycosylated around the region of receptor binding. Could it be the association of severity correlating with glycosylation variation be because the same glycosylation variation is applied to the S sites and affects S function?

    1. On 2020-05-06 00:34:42, user mvandemar wrote:

      It doesn't state in the study, but wouldn't people willing to venture out to be tested possibly be more likely to be ones who were ignoring social distancing orders, and if so a higher risk population? If that were the case would that skew their extrapolations to the community as a whole?

    1. On 2020-05-06 00:54:07, user Alessandro_Machi wrote:

      We had a U.S. Senior flu epidemic in 2017-2018 that probably killed 100,000 seniors even though only 61,000 were reported. Flu and pneumonia deaths were being renamed among Seniors as death by Natural Causes, Respiratory Failure, Heart Attack on their death certificates. I have multiple links to stories about how badly the flu epidemic was during the 2017-2018 Senior flu epidemic. The problem was no numbers were being reported during the epidemic, thus allowing Emergency response to pretend there was no senior flu epidemic.

    1. On 2020-05-06 06:16:09, user JL Segovia wrote:

      Mike Bray, Craig Rayner, François Noël, David Jans, Kylie Wagstaff,<br /> Ivermectin and COVID-19: a report in Antiviral Research, widespread interest, an <br /> FDA warning, two letters to the editor and the authors' responses, Antiviral Research, 2020, http://www.sciencedirect.co...

      "Ivermectin’s key direct target in mammalian cells <br /> is a not a viral component, but a host protein important in <br /> intracellular transport (Yang et al., 2020);<br /> the fact that it is a host-directed agent (HDA) is almost certainly the<br /> basis of its broad-spectrum activity against a number of different RNA <br /> viruses in vitro (Tay et al., 2013; Yang et al., 2020).<br /> The way a HDA can reduce viral load is by inhibiting a key cellular <br /> process that the virus hijacks to enhance infection by suppressing the <br /> host antiviral response. Reducing viral load by even a modest amount by <br /> using a HDA at low dose early in infection can be the key to enabling <br /> the body’s immune system to begin to mount the full antiviral response <br /> before the infection takes control."

    1. On 2020-05-06 23:30:49, user Bárbara Souto wrote:

      Patients of the non-chloroquine group started to be monitored six days before the chloroquine group. Consequently, it is clear that the chloroquine group participants would have an early clearance of virus RNA. The median of day difference between start of symptoms and start treatment (monitoring) was 6 days. Exactly the same difference between the medians of viral RNA clearance day between the groups, as show in the KM curve. In fact, the results from this study strongly suggest that there is no effect of chloroquine on viral clearance.

    1. On 2020-05-07 22:07:31, user Dan T.A. Eisenberg wrote:

      Have you done any tests to see how stable the samples are for longer periods of time than in this paper? Also, can you clarify which Norgen RNA purification kits you used (Cell-Free or Total RNA kits)? Thank you. Trying to get this ramped up in my lab.

    2. On 2020-09-28 14:47:49, user Screamin_Jay wrote:

      If saliva testing accuracy has been demonstrated to be equal to the nasal swab method, why subject patients to the uncomfortable nasal swab? Why is, then, all testing not saliva-based?

    1. On 2020-05-10 00:42:01, user cm wrote:

      "Assuming a molecular clock rate of 8 x 10- 4 with a standard deviation of 5 x 10- 4 substitutions per site per year, we used TreeTime to estimate the dates of branching events in the phylogeny and re-rooted the phylogeny to maximize the correlation coefficient of the root-to-tip plot. The command-line options for treetime were --reroot least-squares --clock-filter 3 --tip-slack 3 --confidence --clock-rate 0.0008 --clock-std-dev 0.0005. The resulting time trees are provided in Supplementary Data 1."

      Why is the molecular clock assumed without any citation justifying it with empirical evidence?

    1. On 2020-05-11 17:35:00, user DickRuble wrote:

      s-CRP has been shown to correlate with BMI and waist circumference. We know that Covid patients with obesity fare much worse than other patients. It's been shown by others that low vitamin D also correlates (though causality is not established) with high s-CRP. I fail to see the novelty of the finding to justify publishing this paper. A majority of elderly patients show "vitamin D deficiency". They also fare poorly when infected with Covid-19. They also have loss of hair. Should we make them wear wigs, because loss of hair correlates with severity of symptoms?

    1. On 2020-05-15 10:17:49, user Jean-Michel Boiron wrote:

      Hi,<br /> I think you may consider writing "Compared with the control group, HCQ with or without azithromycin (AZI) showed no benefit in viral clearance of SARS-CoV-2 (odds ratio (OR) 1.95, <br /> 95% CI 0.19-19.73) or reduction in progression rate (OR 0.89, 95% CI0.58-1.37)" instead of "Compared with the control group, HCQ with or without azithromycin (AZI) <br /> showed benefits in viral clearance of SARS-CoV-2 (odds ratio (OR) 1.95, <br /> 95% CI 0.19-19.73) and a reduction in progression rate (OR 0.89, 95% CI <br /> 0.58-1.37), but without demonstrating any statistical significance.", which is misleading.

    1. On 2020-05-15 12:51:54, user Marjukka Mäkelä wrote:

      Dear Sir

      Summaryx Ltd, a company preparing systematic reviews (SRs) and health technology assessment reports, is currently finalizing an SR on the effectiveness of using masks in public for preventing the spread of influenza-like illness (ILI). Our literature search produced 6 primary studies and 6 SRs as material, and one of the SRs was a preprint of “Facemasks and similar barriers to prevent respiratory illness such as COVID-19: A rapid systematic review” by Brainard et al. We believe there is a mistake in their GRADE tabulation (Table 1) that seriously distorts the results. For the first outcome “Primary prevention, well wear masks – RCT data – outcome ILI”, they report the risk without masks to be 108 and with masks 102 ILIs per thousand. This is a difference of six per thousand, or six per mil, not per cent, as the abstract tells. When looking at original data, it may be that the numbers ought to be 105 and 102, which gives an even lower effect.

      We suggest Brainard et al. should change their conclusion, as formulated in the Abstract: ”In 3 RCTs, wearing a facemask may very slightly reduce the odds of developing ILI/respiratory symptoms, by around 6% (OR 0.94, 95% CI 0.75 to 1.19, I2 29%, low certainty evidence).” should be corrected to ”In 3 RCTs, wearing a facemask may very slightly reduce the odds of developing ILI/respiratory symptoms, by around 0,6% (OR 0.94, 95% CI 0.75 to 1.19, I2 29%, low certainty evidence).” There are several other places in the paper that need correction regarding this apparent mistake.

      On behalf of Summaryx ltd., <br /> Yours sincerely, <br /> Marjukka Mäkelä, MD, PhD,M.Sc.(ClinEpi)<br /> Professor emerita

    1. On 2020-05-15 14:20:03, user Boonton wrote:

      Has someone read the larger study? How do they verify so few outdoor cases? Given 14 days is a lot to remember for people who haven't been locked down, it doesn't seem clear to me how you know someone didn't get it from outdoors or an outdoor person didn't get it indoors?

    1. On 2020-05-15 22:43:37, user Milesy Mathis wrote:

      Seems like the takeaway is include zinc and start the HCQ/AZM early, not after they become acute and are getting put on ventilators (itself questionable since the standard ARDS vent protocols don't seem well matched to the peculiar oxygen deprivation symptoms without pneumonia that COVID seems to present with). That Univ. of Albany study that CNN was touting has NO MENTION of zinc, another retrospective in the same State - hard to believe that level of ignorance of past research into coronavirus or RNA virus therapy exists among some of these providers.

    2. On 2020-05-19 11:46:53, user James Eridon wrote:

      Very practical, reasonable approach to the issue. Seems to indicate about a 50% reduction in poor outcomes. Not a silver bullet, but certainly a big deal, especially considering the low cost and ease of treatment. Tired of complaints about how it’s not double blind and randomized - that doesn’t make it invalid. It’s the sort of argument made by someone trying to advance an agenda, rather than knowledge. <br /> One minor point. I believe the OR and p-value on Intubation in Table 3 are off. The actual values are somewhat better than those shown.

    1. On 2020-05-17 16:22:51, user Sinai Immunol Review Project wrote:

      Main findings<br /> The impact of SARS-CoV-2 infection and subsequent COVID-19 disease in pregnant women at different trimesters is not well described. The precise influence of a potentially dysregulated antiviral response to this pathogen during pregnancy is unclear, so a better understanding would guide management for pregnant women, who may be more susceptible to infection. Here, Hosier et al. profile a case of a woman with COVID-19 in the second trimester of pregnancy with severe hypertension, elevated liver enzymes, and coagulopathy. These symptoms led to a diagnosis of severe preeclampsia.

      The patient initially presented with a high fever, non-productive cough, nausea, diarrhea, diffuse myalgias, anorexia, and malaise. A RT-PCR test for SARS-CoV-2 RNA in a nasopharyngeal swab of the patient was positive. Upon admission, the patient was treated for hypertension, disseminated intravascular coagulopathy, and she eventually elected to terminate via dilation and evacuation. During surgical management and recovery, the patient developed lymphopenia, though she was able to be extubated and weaned to room air on post-operative day 1. The patient was given hydroxychloroquine. Two days later, her coagulation markers improved, and she was discharged.

      RT-PCR and sequencing and phylogenetic analyses showed that the placenta and umbilical cord were positive for SARS-CoV-2 RNA, but no other major fetal tissues tested positive. Saliva and urine, collected from the patient, also tested positive, although the oral and nasal swabs did not. Whole genome sequencing of the viral genome isolated from the placenta was phylogenetically similar to those isolated from local cases of SARS-CoV-2 infection and those identified in Europe and Australia.

      Serologic testing for patients' antibodies revealed high titers of anti-SARS-CoV-2 IgG and IgM antibodies. These levels were reportedly the highest of the 56 COVID-19 patients admitted to the Yale New Haven Hospital, suggesting that the patient was not unsuccessful in eliciting a humoral response.

      Gross pathological examination revealed a marginally adherent blood clot, presenting as a focal placental infarct, while histological analyses using CD3 and CD68 as markers revealed an infiltration of T cells and macrophages, which suggests that fibrin-dense intervillositis may have contributed to the coagulopathy observed in the patient. No necrotic tissue was seen. Immunohistochemistry staining for the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein and in situ hybridization for the SARS-CoV-2 RNA revealed that the infection of fetal tissue was localized preferentially to the syncytiotrophoblasts of the placenta.

      Electron microscopy confirmed the presence of viral particles (75-100 nm in diameter) in the cytosol of placental cells.

      Limitations<br /> Technical<br /> This report profiles a single patient to describe the impact of COVID-19 in pregnant women. Without a larger sample size, it is difficult to assess, however, how infection or peak disease at a given trimester differentially influence prognosis and clinical outcome. It is also important to note that this patient was diagnosed with an underlying autoimmune disease, psoriasis. It will also be important for future studies to consider the stage of pregnancy and whether COVID infection leads to other pregnancy-related disorders, such as recurring miscarriage, fetal growth restriction and possibly even increase in size of fetus creating challenges for delivery.

      Biological<br /> Finally, it is unclear whether these placental cells express the ACE2 receptor. Though electron microscopy, among other methods, identified viral particles in placental cells and indicated SARS-CoV-2 infection of the placenta, the authors did not demonstrate that the syncytiotrophoblasts expressed the ACE2 receptor, which has been shown to be the target of SARS-CoV-2 viral entry into host cells.

      Additional considerations<br /> The immunology of pregnancy is not static - the myeloid and T cell repertoire of the placental micro-environment is dynamic throughout the different trimesters. For instance, during the first trimester, trophoblastic cells secrete cytokines and chemokines that promote the recruitment and infiltration of circulating monocytes, neutrophils, NK cells, and T cells (1,2). This trafficking is essential, and disruption of any elements of this signaling axis results in poor pregnancy outcomes (1). Notably, NK cells and monocyte-derived macrophages are responsible for decidual vascular and tissue remodeling (1,2).

      The second trimester, however, is described as an anti-inflammatory stage, characterized by the induction of regulatory T cells by decidual CD56brightCD16- NK cells and monocyte-derived macrophages. Interestingly, a population of TH17 cells are also present and expand during the second trimester (1). The third trimester is then marked by a return to an inflammatory phenotype (1). It is unclear how these differential states are influenced by an antiviral response to SARS-CoV-2 infection. The authors reported the presence of macrophages and T cells, but a lack of more specific stains and analyses make it difficult to precisely characterize the immunological anomalies of the placental micro-environment in pregnant women with COVID-19. The role of decidual NK cells is likely to be especially important, given their role in trophoblast-mediated immune modulation during the different trimesters of pregnancy and their role in the antiviral response to viral infections.

      Significance<br /> Hypertensive disorders, like preeclampsia, in pregnant women increase the likelihood for complicated pregnancies, and recent studies of the field suggest that dysregulated immune activity may partially be responsible for these outcomes. The trimesters of pregnancy exhibit different immune landscapes, so the presence of certain microbes, including viral pathogens, is likely to perturb homeostatic immune processes that are required for a normal pregnancy. The impact of SARS-CoV-2 infection, therefore, warrants its own investigation, as the health outcomes of COVID-19 are especially poor. The authors report direct infection of the syncytiotrophoblast by SARS-CoV-2. These cells are derived from trophoblasts, which play an important immuno-modulatory role in all three trimesters of pregnancy. So, collectively, given the role of the ACE2 receptor as the target of SARS-CoV-2 viral entry and the involvement of ACE2 in the physiology of preeclampsia, the two pathologies likely share altered immune states and a dysfunctional renin-angiotensin-aldosterone system (RAAS) as etiologies.

      This review was undertaken by Matthew D. Park as part of a project by students, postdocs and faculty at the Immunology Institute of the Icahn school of medicine, Mount Sinai.

      References<br /> 1 Mor, G., Aldo, P., & Alvero, A.B. The unique immunological and microbial aspects of <br /> pregnancy. Nat. Rev. Immunol. 17, 469-482 (2020).<br /> 2 Yockey, L.J., Lucas, C., & Iwasaki, A. Contributions of maternal and fetal antiviral <br /> immunity in congenital disease. Science. 368, 608-612 (2020).

    1. On 2020-05-18 08:41:42, user Anton De Spiegeleer wrote:

      @jkoenin, what do you mean by 'questionably executed' from a scientific viewpoint? We agree it is a small study with limitations (also clearly mentioned in the study), however we believe it is well-conducted and valuable. We would be happy to hear concrete possible improvements of the study or current alternatives to save lives of older COVID-19 residents from you.

    1. On 2020-05-18 08:51:23, user Joanna Treasure wrote:

      People are citing this study as indicating that chidren do not bring the infection home, but the study only identifies the first person showing symptoms and sign, which may be less apparen in children. Circular argument.

    2. On 2020-08-17 14:30:16, user Ciron Soauv wrote:

      This study was cited in a nice powerpoint (link below) made by the Dr.<br /> Wanderson Oliveira from Brazil Ministry of Health, titled "scientific<br /> evidence of pandemic impact". It is being circulated on WhatsUp, together<br /> with videos from Dr. Ioannidis from Stanford, who suggests mortality rates are<br /> around 0.1%. Unfortunately, many people in that country, where more than 100,000<br /> people died of COVID, minimises the pandemic impact justifying it with those<br /> pre-prints. Noted, no fault on the authors – they are the ones that need to get<br /> “immune” to misrepresentation.

      https://www.sinprolondrina....

    1. On 2020-05-18 23:55:59, user BannedbyN4stickingup4Marjolein wrote:

      I find the conclusions of this paper seem to have been presented in a quite mis-leading way. I say this because of the many Twitter comments above which appear to have come from people who have been thus mis-led: their inference is that contracting Covid-19 is no more dangerous for an under-65 year-old than driving a car.

      This is clearly not what the paper calculates - it looks at the combined probability of both contracting COVID-19 AND death from it during the first wave of the epidemic. An epidemic of this nature spreads in a series of multiple outbreaks each with its own start date and peak. Country totals for a specific date range do not necessarily capture the intensity of a "wave".

      The actual risk of dying from Covid-19 is larger, since we must consider not just the risk of dying in this short period, but over the next 18 months or so (presuming successful implementation of yet to be proven immunisation strategies). This additional risk could possibly dwarf that experienced so far in any location where the government cannot get itself in control of the transmission rate.

      Also, "comorbidities" and "underlying diseases" are referred to, but given no clear definition. What for example is "hypertension"? Does it involve having been prescribed medication for this condition? Having abnormal blood pressure recorded at any one time? Without careful examination of the data and these definitions, it could just be that most of the dead have ended up being lumped under the comorbidity/underlying diseases heading, with a resulting bias to the study's conclusions.

    1. On 2020-05-19 03:07:59, user rferrisx wrote:

      Hoping to find these two segregated: "Prior COPD or asthma". Trying to figure out why the 25M who have asthma in the US don't show up much at all in Covid-19 comorbidities.

    1. On 2020-05-19 09:44:20, user Ivan Berlin wrote:

      This is a unique sample. Why not to compare the COVID-19 + sample to a matched COVID-19 - sample? We lack case-control studies in this field.

    2. On 2020-09-14 23:14:12, user arkancide_is_real wrote:

      When are we going to see the data associated with this project? Source code merely shows how to generate output.

      The data should be openly available, given the supervising author's history.

    1. On 2020-05-22 01:22:41, user Dee Bee wrote:

      So one wonders how the model does in predicting the pandemic path as controls are relaxed. From a couple of statements, at the end of the abstract indicates, seems like not so much.

    1. On 2020-05-25 09:06:03, user Paul Ananth Tambyah wrote:

      Would be good to know the breakdown within the bigger groups of healthcare professionals and healthcare associate professionals - in particular how many had direct patient contact

    1. On 2020-08-02 18:17:55, user iVX Engineering wrote:

      Why on earth they used such dangerously high dosing (800mg per day is the daily max according to FDA, with most other studies using 400) 2400mg dose in the first day? This is a toxic dose. What is these doctors trying to do, intentionally poison patients? Who reviewed the ethics of doing this and why was this allowed? And why are there no comments in the paper justifying this extremely high dosing? In addition to this there needs to be a portion of the discussion addressing how potential toxicity from high doses may have influenced the results.

    1. On 2020-07-30 17:31:33, user Wayne Saslow wrote:

      Aerosol-sized droplets have been studied by physicists since at least 1897, when J. J. Thomson used them in determining the properties of electrons. In a chamber with no air current, he observed the fall of a water droplet; from its terminal velocity v he estimated the droplet radius R -- at terminal velocity the force of gravity downward is balanced by the (Stokes) drag force upward. The gravity force varies as the droplet volume (proportional to the cube of R) but the Stokes drag force is proportional to vR, so at terminal velocity v is proportional to the square of R: doubling R makes v four times larger.

      Therefore the larger droplets in an aerosol fall out quickly, but the smaller droplets (but not too small to include a virus particle) remain much longer. So it should not be surprising that aerosols are important for coronavirus transmission; they stay in the air much longer than larger droplets.

      To finish the story, knowing the droplet radius R helped Thomson in the following way: he was able to obtain the gravitational force on the droplet. He then put a sheet of negative charge below the aerosol, and found that some of the droplets floated, so the electric force due to electrons on the aerosol cancelled the gravitational force. This permitted an estimate of the charge on the electron. A few years later Millikan used less-quickly evaporating oil drops to make a more accurate measurement of the electron charge.

      Why care? Without electrons, no atoms; without atoms, no molecules; without molecules, no DNA; without DNA, no biology.

    1. On 2020-08-02 00:11:16, user Michael Verstraeten wrote:

      I would like to make also a suggestion. <br /> 1. Calculate the amount of people infected in the whole population on the highest result of your research, by age category. (That's a simplification since there are also other relevant factors then age, like comorbidity factors but ok). <br /> 2. Add to this amount the results from the positive PCR-tests in the hospitals until that moment (Also a problem since there is a % of false negative results, but ok) <br /> 3. Estimate the amount of patients whit a general problem who were refused to get a blood test due to a suspicion of Covid - 19 and were not admitted to the hospital (if possible). And add them to the grand total. <br /> 4. From there on you can make an estimate based on the weighted average evolution of the deaths from de date corresponding to the testdate pn (a few days later then the test dates). It seems to be a relatively good assumption to consider that de evolution of the infections will be relatively equal to the evolution of the deaths / age category. <br /> 5. There is one problem however: we are not sure about the exact amount of deaths due to Covid. 73 % of people deceased in the care homes were not diagnosed and the tests have a big error margin. And diagnoses are maybe wrong due to extended diagnose protocols. Maybe it would be a good idea to calculate an average on the evolution of deaths and hospital admissions. Even if the latter depends on the admission policy.

      Even with the uncertainties and the quite big error margin, maybe it will be possible to come with such an exercise closer to the real number of the infected population.

    1. On 2020-08-05 12:20:29, user Per Sjögren-Gulve wrote:

      Have the authors tested whether the sample of incubation days is normally distributed or not? If not, it is more appropriate to present the range of the observed values than to report 95% CIs. The latter requires that the parameter is normally distributed (the arithmetric mean is equal to the median).

    1. On 2020-08-05 17:49:59, user Dieter Mergel wrote:

      Note from the author:<br /> Error in Figure 4 and Figure 5.

      Fatality rates leT2000 in Figure 4 and lT18 in Figure 5 have to be shifted by 18 days to earlier dates. Fatality rate lT20 has to be shifted by 20 days to earlier dates.

      Updated version will be available shortly.

    1. On 2020-08-13 12:21:29, user Justin Cotney wrote:

      These Cq values are at the very unreliable end of the instrument's detection range. Most biologists and in my own lab do not trust Cq values greater than 35. The instrument will usually report a number even in negative controls as was seen in their table. Performing a melt curve analysis after the PCR reveals if it is the product you were expecting or spurious amplification. Please show qpcr traces and melt curves.

    1. On 2020-08-17 14:11:29, user Aaron J. Courtney wrote:

      Is the mask modeling based upon a surgical mask? Have you rerun the model assuming everyone wore N95s? Any eye protection to guard against conjunctiva infection? What factor did aerosol transmission, particularly fecal and urine aerosolization in community rest rooms, account for infectivity calculus? (recall Hong Kong high rise apartment building SARS-CoV-1 outbreak caused by faulty plumbing)

    1. On 2020-08-20 15:31:30, user Matt Price wrote:

      6 people had antibodies to SARS CoV2 prior to departure, 3 of whom had neutralizing antibodies (i.e., much more potent). Of the 3 who didn't have neutralizing antibodies, all developed symptoms and became PCR+ during the trip. I have a few comments for the authors, that I think would be helpful to address (unless I missed it):

      1. Did those 3 without neutralizing abs later develop neutralizing antibodies?
      2. Were they (as someone below suggests) the carriers who might have brought the virus on board, since PCR does have a high rate of false negatives (i.e., failing to detect virus when in fact it is there)? This might be difficult to test, as you don't have samples during the trip...
      3. How many of the 104 with positive PCR and later seroconverted developed neutralizing antibodies (i.e., is it common that everyone develops potential immunity?)

      Very nice work.

    2. On 2020-08-21 13:41:13, user CodeJ wrote:

      While it is great that we have some concrete evidence that being infected/testing positive for antibodies gives you protection, how long does protection last? Is it 3 months? Is it 1 year? Is it lifelong? I want to know when these three Ab+ individuals were actually exposed to the virus, though I acknowledge that this information could be difficult to obtain. Based on what we know about SARS and common cold causing coronavirus strains, this protection may be short-lived. These questions needs to be answered before the pandemic can truly be over and an effective vaccination strategy can be developed, but we obviously need more time to answer these questions, as well.

      Also, while the studies of the neutralizing antibodies are promising, there is no evidence that the neutralizing antibodies they detect actually protect people from getting reinfected, as T cell response also seems to be important, which is highlighted by other studies. Additionally, are these antibodies present in serum getting to the mucosal sites of infection they need to be in order to protect? Importantly, this study does underscore the need to test the therapeutic and prophylactic potential of monoclonal Abs directed against the virus (i.e. the NP protein or S) that can perhaps be derived from these neutralizing Abs present in convalescent individuals.

    1. On 2020-08-21 09:47:26, user David Simons wrote:

      Hi,

      It looks like this may already be formatted for submission but you may want to revisit the inclusion of Qi (reference 16) in particular.

      The relevant pre-print has only dichotomised smoking into current and non-current smokers. The authors do not make clear that non-current smokers are never smokers. I've found this difficult to mannage in our own work so we do not include them in meta-analysis if there is no explicit never smoker category. It is unclear from your manuscript how you manage this.

      Kind regards,

      David

    1. On 2020-08-23 18:52:01, user Michael Shodell wrote:

      Greatly enjoyed this paper as the logic, assumptions, and<br /> analyses are very-well described and readily followed. This also enables good critical assessments<br /> of the range of confidence to place in the numbers at which the author<br /> arrives. HOWEVER – by ignoring<br /> everything other than the sedentary in-flight, non-perambulating and generally<br /> observant passengers (see excerpts below), the author may have missed the<br /> greatest risk areas of flying.

      For instance, when disembarking at the destination, the more<br /> crowded the plane (eg. a plane with middle seats occupied), the riskier this<br /> part of travel. I can tell you from recent<br /> experience that for up to 10 minutes passengers crowd the aisles awaiting disembarking<br /> and, being the flight conclusion, often with masks at half-staff or barely<br /> covering the face at all.

      Probably similar consideration for use of toilets and aisle<br /> movement during the flight.

      106 We focus on a particular passenger who is traveling<br /> alone, and assume that the primary

      107 infection risk for this passenger arises from other<br /> passengers in the same row. We further

      108 assume that additional risk arises from passengers in<br /> the row ahead and row behind. For two

      109 reasons, we treat the risk posed by other passengers as<br /> negligible …

      … we treat the risks associated with boarding

      119 the aircraft, leaving the aircraft, visiting the<br /> lavatory, and touching surfaces in

      120 the passenger cabin, as second-order effects.

    1. On 2020-08-25 17:13:15, user Benjamin Kirkup wrote:

      Despite some discussion and speculation about the diversity of the strains in a single patient at the start of one local outbreak, I don't see any data or analysis reflecting on the measured viral diversity of SARS-CoV-2 within any of the clinical samples; nor an analysis of whether that can be used to tie individuals together via the minor populations, for example [https://www.biorxiv.org/con...]. Instead, each sample is reduced, mapping to reference, to a consensus genome or partially covered consensus genome. Is there a way you could address the potential for minor populations in the samples; and leverage that for greater resolution in the transmission analysis?

    1. On 2020-08-25 19:43:48, user Allan H. SMITH wrote:

      Some readers may be misled by the title and abstract of this paper into thinking the Covid-19 epidemic is under control.

      Dr. Bhatia acknowledged that I was a reviewer, and I have been reviewing drafts of the paper and providing comments along the way. It is good to see work on epidemiological data concerning Covid-19. More is needed if we are to learn from the tragic mistakes which have been made in responding to the outbreak.

      My reason for writing this comment is that I fear it may appear to some that this paper indicates that the epidemic has been under control since early March. The confusion may arise from misunderstanding the term “epidemic growth rate”. If there were a sequence of 1,2,4,8,16,27 one could state that the epidemic growth rates has declined in the last period because the last number is 27, and not 32 which would be expected with a continuing doubling of rates. In fact, the greatest increase in this sequence is in last period, going from 16 to 27, an increase of 11 compared to the previous largest increase of 8. So, stating that the epidemic growth rate is declining does not mean the epidemic is under control.

      In fact, the epidemic in the United States charges on and is out of control. You can see evidence for this in Figure 1a in Dr. Bhatia’s paper. Hospital admission rates are mostly much higher than in early March, and many places have evidence of a resurgence in July.<br /> Mortality data give clear evidence of the catastrophe being experienced in some countries, especially the United States, Brazil, Peru, and India. The Johns Hopkins Coronavirus website gives excellent tracking graphs. https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/cumulative-cases You can get the death numbers by clicking in the dropdown box on the left. The top line in the graph is for the United Sates. You can see the curve seemed to start to flatten, but it has taken off again. I think this can reasonably be termed a public health catastrophe. Mortality rates like these have not occurred in any other developed nation, and they could have largely been avoided.

      To conclude, I thank Dr. Bhatia for his paper and extensive work analyzing the data, and for sharing it with me.

    1. On 2020-08-29 05:11:06, user Daniel Connelly wrote:

      The practitioners at our office in NJ have been prescribing HCQ +zinc + azithromycin or doxycycline to newly diagnosed symptomatic Covid-19 patients since March. Our sample size is small and includes nursing home patients. To date, all patients improved rapidly, usually within 24 hours. The were zero hospitalizations, zero deaths and no reported side effects.<br /> The import number from the study is only 7.6% of outpatients were prescribed the drug. This could be because they were asymptomatic at the time and did not need it or it could be because of the oppressive political climate that suppressed the use of this life saving drug in New Jersey.

    1. On 2020-08-30 22:20:50, user JimboKatana wrote:

      Is the virus truly decreasing in virulence or is it following the phenomenon of decreased severity that occurs with viruses in the summer?

    1. On 2020-09-06 08:30:14, user Aporia wrote:

      No matter how you criticize the data- every argument still places these estimates FAR lower then what the media has been pushing . Add to that Dr Ioanidis's talks - we did this by being pushed into a panic- the total years of life lost this season due to Covid is on par wt a flu, but the lockdown will cause REAL LIVES LOST - via deaths of despair (suicides, crime, od etc)

    2. On 2020-09-08 19:17:49, user Jacques des Anges wrote:

      Some general data:<br /> in the US for the age group of 45-64 (82million people) there are about 30,000 deaths involved COVID-19, or about 1 in 2667. And about 1 in 2000 for the age group of 55-64. And over 6 million total confirmed cases in the US by sep 5th, or about 1 in 54 people?

      While the ensemble level infection and fatality probabilities for individual person to person contact calculated in the study might be useful for epidemiologists, they are not helpful for individuals to do a risk assessment in any way. Even if the results were accurate and the conclusions valid, which is what peer review helps to establish.

      The paper give a false sense that the risk is really low when the actual fatality numbers paint a different picture on individual interaction infection probability and overall outcomes. It will cause people to underestimate the probabilities, as is very common; see also: birthday problem. (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/... "https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birthday_problem)").

      Numbers from CDC as of sep 5 2020. <br /> https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nv...

    1. On 2020-09-06 14:23:35, user Knut Wittkowski wrote:

      The hypothesis of two strains in my manuscript, starting in the March 31 version, was confirmed in a July 2 paper in Cell. Korber (2020) identified two strains, D614 and G614, of which G614 is more virulent and arrived in Europe first in Italy.<br /> https://doi.org/10.1016/j.c...

    1. On 2020-09-07 11:18:03, user Maria Elena Flacco wrote:

      There are at least two major issues in the present pre-print manuscript:<br /> 1. <br /> The authors report that only one meta-analysis, published on MedRxiv, is currently available on the association between ACEi/ARBs use and severe/lethal COVID-19. However, at least two meta-analyses have been published on the topic in Medline-indexed journals (see for example Flacco et al Heart 2020 Jul 1:heartjnl-2020-317336 - doi: 10.1136/heartjnl-2020-317336);<br /> 2. <br /> All the included data seemingly came from observational, retrospective studies. The authors meta-analyze them computing RRs (and 95% CIs) using raw data, as if the studies were randomized controlled trials. This approach is not correct, as it is based upon unadjusted (and non-randomized) estimates: to account for the observational nature of the included data, a generic inverse-variance approach should have been used.

    1. On 2020-09-07 18:33:30, user Sunil Bhopal wrote:

      I have read the methods section several times and can't find any description of the tool or administration method for asking about these symptoms. Was this retrospectively done? At what time point? What was the recall period? Who asked the questions? Were they free-answers or multiple choice and so on. My apologies if this is already written up but I can't see it. Best wishes, Sunil Bhopal

    1. On 2020-09-11 04:45:37, user Guest wrote:

      Very insightful! As described in method section, you included variable with p < 0.2 for your model C, but as I can see from table 3, the variable "Age at first marriage" has p value > 0.2 in model B yet this variable was included in model C. I'm curious to know what assumptions were made to retain this variable for the final model despite it clearly could not pass the p<0.2 criterion?

    1. On 2020-09-13 16:40:32, user kdrl nakle wrote:

      One more non-randomized study where the selection of patients was obviously done with respect to their conditions. You can see that from age distributions of two groups. This repeats the same errors of previous non-randomized studies with roughly the same erroneous conclusions.

    1. On 2020-09-16 11:31:32, user Robert Eibl wrote:

      I remember the online meeting with a young virologist / university physician with patients; he claimed that, surprisingly, the co-infection of SARS-CoV-2 and influenza appeared to be lower than expected, but this was probably just the end of the flu season in Germany, when COVID-19 just gained speed.

    1. On 2020-09-16 12:25:37, user Paulo Portinho wrote:

      Hello, I could not understand how the estimated standardized cumulative death rates are 0.23% for HCQ group and 0.22% for NONHCQ group.<br /> Deaths NONHCQ 477, sample 164.068 = 0,29%.<br /> Deaths HCQ 70, sample 30.569 = 0,228%.<br /> I know it is standardized, but shouldn't it be around the average number?

    1. On 2020-09-18 17:21:48, user kdrl nakle wrote:

      Dysfunctional response of T cells (not just elderly) has already been reported in papers before but the reasons were unclear.

    1. On 2020-09-22 13:49:24, user Calvint33 wrote:

      Useful data. But if a ~30% reduction is not significant, then study was underpowered, no? Because 30% would be enough to act upon. Evidently the infection rate in Manitoba was too low for a good test even with this very sizable sample.

    1. On 2020-10-05 16:41:55, user Michael Sibelius wrote:

      Nice work! Now that epidemics have progressed quite a bit further in many of the countries mentioned in the paper, is there some evidence that this heard immunity due to variation in susceptibility, as discussed in this paper? I think I have seen it mentioned with regards to some individual geographic pockets in Italy and the US, but would be great to hear from the authors of this work.

    1. On 2020-10-14 16:27:56, user Darren Brown; HIV Physiotherap wrote:

      1) It would be beneficial to reference the long-term consequences (or sequelae) of COVID-19 as the patient preferred term of 'Long COVID". https://blogs.bmj.com/bmj/2....

      2) This manuscript has been poorly constructed. The structure should be introduction, methods, results, discussion, conclusion. This requires major revision.

      3) Because of the poor construction of this manuscript it is unclear to the reader what statistical hypothesis testing has been performed. It is not suitable to put statistical methodology in brackets in the results section.

      I would reject this submission, requiring major revisions.

    1. On 2020-10-27 04:44:07, user Crispus wrote:

      Did not control for vitamin D levels, zinc, viral load or obesity, nor was that data collected. Since these were not controlled, from what I gather, then it's possible that one group may have had more vitamin D, zinc or Greater BMI than the other groups. This means that if I tested for correlation between the mentioned factors and treatment, the correlation between the two would not be zero...An example of this would be if the group with higher obesity is more likely to be of the HCQ group. Hence a serious concern of potential omitted variable bias. Now just because bias is present doesn't mean the findings are useless. It depends on the direction of the bias. But many health practitioners recommend supplementing vitamin D and zinc, and it's known that obesity and viral load have an impact on mortality.

    1. On 2020-11-15 21:13:34, user Atomsk's Sanakan wrote:

      Some flaws in this study that render it's IFR estimate unreliable:

      1) He uses many studies that over-estimate the number of people that were infected [and thus under-estimate IFR], since these studies were not meant to be representative of the general population Ioannidis applies them to. He doesn't even follow PRISMA guidelines for assessing studies for risk of bias in a study's research design. "Bias" here does not refer to the motivations of the study's authors, but instead that the design of their study would likely cause their results to not be representative of the general population.<br /> 2) He exploited collinearity by sampling the same region multiple times, in a way that skews his results towards a lower IFR. He conveniently tends to avoid sampling an area multiple times when that area has a higher IFR.<br /> 3) He adjusts IFR downwards for reasons not supported by the analysis he cites for that adjustment.<br /> 4) He takes at face-value areas that likely under-estimate COVID-19 deaths, such as Iran, causing him to under-estimate IFR further.<br /> 5) He uses inconsistent reasoning to evade government studies that show higher IFR, even though governments are doing much of the testing needed to determine IFR. That includes Ioannidis ignoring large studies from Italy and Portugal that are more representative of the general population they sampled.<br /> 6) His IFR from a study in Brazil contradicts the study's own IFR, and his explanation for that makes no sense. This conveniently allows him to cut the study's IFR by about a 1/3.<br /> 7) His use of blood donor studies does not make sense, even if one sets aside the fact that blood donor studies would over-estimate population-wide seroprevalence. For example, he uses a Danish blood donor study that leaves out deaths from people 70 and older, to claim an IFR of 0.27% for adults. When those researchers performed a subsequent study in which they included people 70 and older, they got an IFR for adults that's 3 times larger than Ioannidis claims [0.81% vs. 0.27%].

      And so on.

      The sources below provide further context on this:

      https://rapidreviewscovid19...<br /> https://rapidreviewscovid19...<br /> https://rapidreviewscovid19...

      https://twitter.com/GidMK/s...<br /> https://twitter.com/GidMK/s... [ https://threadreaderapp.com... ]<br /> https://www.medscape.com/vi... { http://archive.is/O3vGs , https://threadreaderapp.com... }<br /> https://hildabastian.net/in...<br /> https://twitter.com/AVG_Jos...<br /> https://twitter.com/Atomsks...<br /> https://twitter.com/Atomsks...<br /> https://twitter.com/Atomsks...

      "Estimation without representation: Early SARS-CoV-2 seroprevalence studies and the path forward"<br /> Not-yet-peer-reviewed: "Assessing the age specificity of infection fatality rates for COVID-19: Meta-analysis & public policy implications" (comments on "selection criteria")

    1. On 2021-08-11 09:40:50, user Joao Martins wrote:

      Incredible! Violation of the underlying assumptions of the test used in this article!

      From its ref (10), Tajima's original proposal of D' test:<br /> "Assumption: In this paper we consider a random mating population of N diploid individuals and assume that there is no selection and no recombination between DNA sequences."

      Tajima's D' applies to "random mating populations of diploid individuals": do RNA-viruses fit in this description?

    1. On 2021-08-23 04:17:45, user Anon wrote:

      How about selection bias? Vaccinated people take covid more seriously which would lead to less infections.Not to mention this study was before Delta took over so the results are irrelevant

    1. On 2021-08-26 11:13:46, user Fran Braga wrote:

      There's an English mistake in the interpretation section "Interpretation". The sentence "Coronavac vaccinees above 55 years" is repeated

    1. On 2021-07-11 12:03:24, user Charles L. wrote:

      At least in Fig.1, colors are interchanged (blue, and not green, seems to be the susceptible group).<br /> Also, wouldn't be more realistic to model when 70-80% of population is fully vaccinated? As a 100% vaccination campaign will never be achieved and official govt. states that 70-80% vaccination is the goal in several countries.

    1. On 2021-07-12 02:43:41, user Jennifer McDonald wrote:

      Dr Conly et al, I read your pre-print with interest. I have a few clarifying questions.

      First, given the demonstrated viral stability on hospital equipment/PPE, I am curious why there was no attempt to collect virus directly from used PPE. Does the pre-publication contain the full list of objects/equipment sampled, including those with negative results?

      Second, can you elaborate on the sampling method used to obtain the positive cultures off hands? Were these samples collected at random or immediately following a cough into the hands? Regarding the hand transfer experiment, were the hands washed in culture medium immediately following the transfer? Was this experiment attempted with a longer duration between cough-handshake and handshake-culture?

      Thank you for clarifying,<br /> Jennifer McDonald, MD, Ottawa

    1. On 2021-07-13 02:15:24, user ?0 wrote:

      Will note that absolute risk reduction between vaccinated and unvaccinated is 0.32%. The authors’ claims that the vaccines prevented death are not supported by the evidence provided, which is correlated in nature, not causative.

      A good paper on this issue: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.go...

    1. On 2021-07-14 20:26:08, user bruno ursino wrote:

      I came by this article now, so sorry for posting a comment at this time but it seems to me that no one pointed this out: the formula for the evaluation of Rt is completely wrong, indeed this can be shown just by applying this same technique to a simple SIR model.

      I think it's impossible to send here my plots, but I ask you to execute the following code using octave or matlab:<br /> `tf = 300;<br /> dt = 0.01;<br /> t = 0:dt:tf;

      mu = 1.7/100;

      T = 17;<br /> alfa = 1/T;

      R0 = 4;

      bN = R0*alfa;

      S = zeros(1,numel(t));<br /> I = zeros(1,numel(t));<br /> R = zeros(1,numel(t));<br /> d = zeros(1,numel(t));

      S(1) = 0.99999999;<br /> I(1) = 1 - S(1);

      for k = 2:1:numel(t)

      S(k) = S(k-1) + dt(- bNS(k-1)I(k-1));<br /> I(k) = I(k-1) + dt(bNS(k-1)I(k-1) - alfaI(k-1));<br /> R(k) = R(k-1) + dt(alfaI(k-1));<br /> d(k) = mu(R(k) - R(k-1));

      end

      T_steps = T/dt;

      Ri = zeros(1,numel(t));

      for k = (T_steps+1):1:(numel(t) - T_steps)

      aux = dt(sum(d((k):1:(k+T_steps))) - musum(d((k-T_steps):1:(k))));<br /> Ri(k) = d(k+T_steps)/aux;

      end

      R_t = zeros(1,numel(t));

      for k = (T_steps+1):1:(numel(t) - 2*T_steps)

      R_t(k) = dt*(sum(Ri(k:1:(k+T_steps))));

      end

      figure, plot(t((T_steps+1):1:(numel(t) - 3T_steps)), R_t((T_steps+1):1:(numel(t) - 3T_steps)))<br /> grid minor<br /> hold on<br /> plot(t((T_steps+1):1:(numel(t) - 3T_steps)), R0.(1-R((T_steps+1):1:(numel(t) - 3*T_steps))))`

      the blue line will be the Rt evaluated using your formula, while the red one will be the true Rt value. It's not only a matter of the exact values, but most importantly the issue is about the fact that your formula antedates the day in which Rt starts to decrease of a full month, thus it's not possible to use it to actually prove that the measures did or did not have an effect on the Rt value.

    1. On 2021-07-15 07:57:35, user John Lambiase wrote:

      What's truly interesting is that no one is talking about Fructose and refined sugar activating long term NLRP3 inflammasome in the Monocyte which reprograms the monocyte on a path of inflammation and upregulation of Reactive oxygen species which lowers nitric oxide in Endothelium. Sars CoV-2 seems to have a knack of exploiting and exacerbating this chronic inflammation in patients leading to an acute medical malody.

      What deactivates NLRP3 inflammasome? Olive Oil, Melatonin, Vitamin D Fish Oil, Resveritrol, Quercetin etal. Been taking doses of Oleic Acid for months because of all the research I was finding. Cashews high in Oleic Acid. If this all comes down to Anti Oxidants vs Oxidants then medicine is going to have serious explaining to do. Unfortunately that would never get out.

    1. On 2021-07-15 13:36:08, user Merlin Khoo wrote:

      This laboratory study seems to indicate the need for a booster 3rd jab based on the latest variant as the virus mutates further and further from the original wild type

    1. On 2021-07-16 09:27:55, user ??? wrote:

      There's recently published article presenting the application of brain temperature rhythm in outcome prediction after traumatic brain injury. This paper should be cited.<br /> "Kuo, L.-T.; Lu, H.-Y.; Huang, A.P.-H. Prognostic Value of Circadian Rhythm of Brain Temperature in Traumatic Brain Injury. J. Pers. Med. 2021, 11, 620. https://doi.org/10.3390/jpm..."

    1. On 2021-07-22 18:02:23, user Andriy Kolesnyk wrote:

      1260 times at which point on timeline? Delta is faster (4 days vs 6), and in case of measuring the viral load at 6th day we can receive the result 1260 times bigger for Delta. Becouse Delta has 2 days more for multiplying the viral load.

    1. On 2021-07-22 18:39:09, user Bernie Mulvey wrote:

      Did you check which genes are driving the "synapse organization" enrichment? The clustered protocadherin locus is GWAS significant in, I believe, all of these disorders. Several of those 20-some genes have ontology terms including "synapse organization" (which is true of these genes). However, the density and complex transcriptional regulation of these along with LD results in several PCDH genes being associated to variants by QTLs and so forth. Just sharing to be cautious, as this phenomenon has spoiled many a moment of ontologic excitement in my own work.

    1. On 2021-07-26 17:27:59, user Fortu Nisko wrote:

      The research should not use PCR or tests derived of PCR for assessing 1-Infection 2-infectiousness 3-illness. If the research depends on flawed data, at its root, then, the conclusions drawn will be no better. First establish what you are actually looking for - an intact viral particle that can be cultured. Further, establish that each supposed transmission be verified using such a method. And, de4fine the actual illness that is supposed to be directly associated with the pathogen you are looking for; that means a syndrome of acute severe respiratory distress. Not a cough or a wheeze; not a fever; not a symptom that is applicable to many other potential causes. So make the causal relationship front and center. Specifically identify and test for the particular causal agent; specifically verify illness caused by that causal agent. Failing that, your research will be for nothing specific - not for a specific infection, not for a specific transmission, not for a specific malady. This should be noted in the strenghts/weakness portion of any research paper produced from your efforts.

    2. On 2021-07-26 17:44:49, user Fortu Nisko wrote:

      From expected results.

      We intend to present the evidence in three distinct packages: study description, methodological quality assessment and data extracted. We intend on summarising the evidence and drawing conclusions as to the quality of the evidence.

      Fair enough. A ruthlessly non-politiccal assessment of the quality of scientific evidence will be the most significant portion of the research. Perhaps you might add to the discussion portion of your research paper the impact of basing policy on evidennce that does not meet the standard for policy-grade evidence. This is a very important discussion. Policy-makers seem to be ignorant of the standards necessary to draw conclusions that then can translate into sound policies for public health. They seem to have fallen into the trap of self-perpetuating policies that become untethered from an assessment of the quality of evidence.

      Wishing you luck and good fortune in your pursuit of a worthy goal re quality of evidence.

    1. On 2021-07-30 05:51:51, user Raja Mugasimangalam wrote:

      The views expressed in this article do not necessarily represent the views of the DHSC JCVI NIHR or WHO. TW, HS, IH, JB, EJK, KS, JV, TLV are employees of AstraZeneca. <br /> should I need to say anything more?

    1. On 2021-07-30 16:47:26, user Kirsten Elliott wrote:

      There seem to be at least three reviews based on the same literature search, so I'm posting similar comments on each of them.

      The search strategy for this review has not been adequately reported as there is not enough information in the appendix to replicate the search in any database, as it hasn't been made clear which fields were searched. It is therefore not compliant with PRISMA 2009 or PRISMA 2020 reporting standards. Furthermore, from what has been reported it appears that relevant search terms and subject headings have not been included, meaning that it is likely relevant papers have been missed.

    1. On 2021-07-31 20:00:31, user I. Bokonon wrote:

      In Table S5, among participants receiving placebo, why are the surveillance time (0.265) and n2 (736) for the positive baseline SARS-CoV-2 status group greater than the sum of those values shown for the 3 positive subgroups (0.264 and 735)?

    2. On 2021-08-01 14:47:19, user Nir Tsabar wrote:

      In the 'Disposition of Participants' chart, the numbers of participants who 'Entered open-label follow up' (lowest items) and those of 'Withdrawal after Dose 2' do not add up to those 'Received Dose 2'. <br /> There seem to be missing 583 participants in the Placebo group and 1258 in the Pfizer BNT162b2 group.<br /> Moreover, a clear statement regarding the possibility of unknown deaths in the randomized groups may be very important.

    3. On 2021-08-02 22:47:42, user drwambier wrote:

      Please revise: "No new serious adverse events assessed as related by investigators were reported after data cut-off for the previous report."

      Previously reported: 2 deaths (BNT162b2) vs 4 (placebo), with zero deaths related to COVID19 in each arm. Death (any cause) is the main SERIOUS ADVERSE EVENT (SAE), and a higher number was reported, please revise accordingly.

      "During the blinded, controlled period, 15 BNT162b2 and 14 placebo recipients died; during the open-label period, 3 BNT162b2 and 2 original placebo recipients who received BNT162b2 after unblinding died. None of these deaths were considered related to BNT162b2 by investigators. Causes of death were balanced between BNT162b2 and placebo groups (Table S4).”

      Since you are reporting the 6 months data, please consider rephrasing to the full numbers: "18 deaths on BNT162b2 versus 16 deaths on the placebo (including the 2 deaths after receiving BNT162b2)." It is also important to specify the denominator for each group. It is unclear what is the total number of patients were followed-up for full 6 months, and how many were lost to follow-up (survivor bias?).

      "Cumulative safety follow-up was available up to 6 months post-dose 2 from combined blinded and open-label periods for 12,006 participants originally randomized to BNT162b2. The longer follow-up for this report, including open-label observation of original BNT162b2 recipients and placebo recipients who received BNT162b2 after unblinding, revealed no new safety signals relative to the previous report”.

      If 3 deaths happened in the BNT162b2 group until 1 month after Dose 2 during the blinded period and 5 in the placebo group, the new deaths after that month were: 15 for BNT162b2 and 11 for placebo (including the 2 deaths after receiving BNT162b2). Please verify if this is correct, if it is, please state specifically as this might be considered a safety signal.

      200 HIV patients data is still not disclosed. I understand that this is per protocol. However, we ask to please disclose the current HIV+ data, since many are receiving the shots under EUA without data of their subgroup analysis.

      Plus, assuming that those are in the 22,166 patients of BNT162b2 and 22,320 of placebo:<br /> Considering the “scenario of all patients followed, without unknown outcomes”:<br /> RR for death is 1.1328 (.5778-2.2208). An increase by 13% of all cause mortality in 6 months of follow-up including the part of vaccinating the placebo arm.<br /> The ages and gender of deaths would be informative for safety since populations were balanced by randomization please add a table with such information.

      Current data suggests that within 6 months of follow-up, BNT162b2 does not reduce all-cause mortality. There is a signal that it might increase all-cause mortality. <br /> Assuming that it would be difficult for investigators to access if deaths were related to BNT162b2 since myocarditis or heart-related side effects were initially thought to be unrelated to BNT162b2, also no previous signals of thrombosis were reported.

      Causes of death were assumed to be “Cardiac Arrest” or other "unknown" descriptions. There is even a “death” as cause of death on the table… "dementia?" For future trials or third injection, an active screening for myocarditis (Serum Cardiac Troponin T and Creatine Kinase–MB), and thromboembolic events would be prudent, specially in the >65 y.o. population, which may be more vulnerable to momentary reduction of cardiac muscle function through inflammation.

      As this was a healthy population (not treatment of COVID-19, etc), and deaths were rare. <br /> It seems that all-cause mortality was indeed more common than deaths by COVID-19 in the current manuscript, thus, they cannot be left aside from the trial results discussion. Please discuss specifically about the comparison of COVID-19 deaths in the control group vs the relative increase of deaths detected in the BNT162b2 group and how putting those numbers in the balance.

      About COVID-19 related deaths, the score was expected: 2 deaths on placebo (“COVID-19”) and 1 death in Vaccine ("COVID-19 pneumonia”). <br /> With the current safety data, caution is warranted, since the number to harm in the best scenario points that approximately 100 deaths could be attributed to the vaccine for every 1M fully vaccinated, if the increase in all-cause deaths is not a noise of low numbers.

      "Safety monitoring will continue per protocol for 2 years post-dose 2 for participants who originally received BNT162b2 and for 18 months after the second BNT162b2 dose for placebo recipients who received BNT162b2 after unblinding.”

      Was all the control group crossed-over to BNT162b2 post-unblinding? If so, please state and give the reasons why it was decided to do so. If there is no placebo arm for a safety control comparison, this safety monitoring will only be important if extreme flags happen: such as unexpected high number of serious adverse events emerge.

    4. On 2021-08-06 12:28:32, user Sven wrote:

      So we have only 2 "covid deaths" in the placebo group and 1 in the vaccinated group, for a total group of about 44000 persons and a period of half a year? Regarding "all-cause deaths", we have 14 (placebo) vs 15 (vaccine). Covid death was extreme rare, so that it had no impact on death rates, i.e. the vaccine did not yield any significant benefit in preventing deaths in the study population. From only 3 covid deaths we cannot derive any statistical data! Where is the evidence for the statement, that the vaccine is preventing covid deaths?; this study is certainly not able to show that. Moreover, as the placebo group is vaccinated already, it is also not possible to get this data in future from this study.

    5. On 2021-08-06 15:18:01, user Robert Clark wrote:

      It is notable that the number of deaths six months after the vaccine is not reduced. This might be because the number of deaths due to COVID overall is percentage-wise too small for a difference to show up in this trial.

      A question I have is specifically for the elderly cases. Is the number of deaths or life-threatening events higher, lower of the same for that case?

      Robert Clark

    1. On 2021-08-02 01:30:33, user Paul wrote:

      Hasn't the CDC indicated that data says people who get the vaccine are just as likely to get the virus and be just as contagious as those who don't take the virus? That means that to 70% of the population getting the virus, or even 100% will not lead the herd immunity since the vaccines fight the virus in the blood after it has reproduced in the throat. What is the point in a vaccine with 50% effectiveness it still makes you five times as likely to develop serious symptoms compared to one with 90% effectiveness. Being vaccinated does nothing for the common good, only for the individual good of reducing symptoms. At the rate the Philippines is spreading the virus it will take 100 years to burn itself out with or without the vaccines. It seems to me the best way to deal with it is to vaccinate as many as possible to prevent symptoms and then open the economy and remove the mask mandates so the virus will burn itself out quicker. It is a tough decision to make but I have known many more who died do to being unemployed and not able to afford their maintenance medicines during the lockdowns than who have died from COVID

    1. On 2021-08-06 21:20:16, user MotherGinger wrote:

      This is at the stage of calculating CFR where we were with the initial wild SARS-Cov2 in February 2021. That is, we have no idea how many cases there actually are, because most people aren't getting tested.

      Testing was extremely common prior to mass vaccination, but post-vaccination, most people no longer bother to get tested as soon as they have symptoms, most institutions (colleges, healthcare, etc.) stopped requiring weekly testing for those with proof of vaccination, most institutions requiring immediate tests for participation (sports, travel, etc.) stopped requiring it for those with proof of vaccination, and the CDC, among other public health bodies, announced they would stop collecting stats for asymptomatic cases in the vaccinated.

      That means the denominator for the CFR for VOC-202012/1 ("Delta") is completely unknown, just as it was in February 2020 for the wild virus, when it was estimated at 3.5% or higher, at least an order of magnitude higher than it turned out to be.

      Unfortunately, this study doesn't yet allow us to compare apples to apples.

    1. On 2021-08-07 15:14:47, user A Call for Honesty wrote:

      What a number of critics ignore in their comments is that there are really poor countries that have a very, very limited supply of expensive medicines. If they have a good supply of Ivermectin, like one I know well, a caring doctor would not hesitate to try this medicine. I have had family that were quite ill with covid and responded very well to ivermectin. If their GP was in the US, UK or some other EU country, he would quite likely have his license withdrawn at the behest of politicians and academic experts who are not working with patients at the coal face. Less doctors in these situations would mean even more suffering and deaths.

    1. On 2021-08-08 14:35:35, user Yaakov Kranz wrote:

      Hi I'm curious was this study taking into acount the Delta variant?<br /> Did anything cahnge since then with regards to the Delta variant?<br /> Thanks!

    1. On 2021-12-02 21:55:33, user Volker wrote:

      The main message taken from this "paper" is "we estimate that unvaccinated individuals are involved in 8–9 out of 10 new infections.". This message is as wrong as it seems to be in comparison with the real world.<br /> One must add "that vaccinated individuals are involved in 5–6 out of 10 new infections.", which means "in more than half of new infections vaccinated individuals are involved". This is exactly what is shown in the graphics, too. <br /> The most dangerous thing about this paper is, that it is used as a base for political decisions only in a single part, not in complete.

    2. On 2021-12-15 11:10:40, user DatenNarr wrote:

      The main Shortcoming of this publication is that it accentuates the participation of unvaccinated individuals on new infections (91.1%, or 8–9 of 10), but does not mention the participation of vaccinated (49% or 5-6 of 10). 51 + 25 + 15 = 91 and 9 + 25 + 15 = 49 according to picture "FIG. 1". You see, the portion of vaccinated is not as small as someone would image (9%).

      Because of the withholding of the participation of vaccinated individuals, the result description is insufficient and misleading. It gives people a wrong illusion as if the unvaccinated would be responsible for 91% infections. Such illusion leads to the effect that people fail to see the necessity to reduce the contacts of vaccinated persons in fight against the pandemic disease., with wrong politics about Covid-19 as result.

      My proposal to the publication:<br /> 1) Change please the publication title to "participation of vaccinated and unvaccinated individuals on new Covid infections"<br /> 2) Add please the statement "vaccinated are involved in 5-6 of 10 new infections" after the statement "unvaccinated are involved in 8–9 of 10 new infections".<br /> 3) Add please the statement "the vaccinated population plays a role in 49% of cases" after the statement "the unvaccinated population plays a role in 91.1% ... of cases".<br /> 3) Take please real data about symptomatic cases from the RKI's weekly report of KW 41-44 for checking your modeling result, from which one can get that the vaccinated population plays at least a role in 40% of infection cases.

    1. On 2021-12-04 08:24:25, user Benjamin George wrote:

      I am skeptical about a paper that was designed with the alpha and delta variants in mind and reinfection rates. <br /> How does a paper that reviewed data from March 2020 to November 27 2021, suddenly include with great conviction that Omicron picked up on Nov 16 and 17 samples and announced on November 25 as a new variant show higher reinfection rates. <br /> All based on a few days of studies. <br /> And Omicron dropped into the summary to add credibility to the paper!

      One should question the validity and professionalism of the writers.

    2. On 2021-12-04 16:11:11, user Liz Jenny wrote:

      Would be fascinating to further dissect the data with inclusion of vaccination status and age. Our initial wave in NYC was children (what I call the invisible leading edge of school absenteeism seen in early March 2020), then relatively young "out and about types". Implication of this article seems to suggest that COVID is undergoing antigenic drift leading driven by ambient antibody in COVID experienced population.

      thanks to The NY Times for picking this up.

    1. On 2021-12-14 17:22:40, user Ronnie wrote:

      they refuse to properly interpret the data ...?

      Reaching the unvaccinated with current vaccines remains a priority in order to reduce transmission levels and reduce the potential for severe disease in the immunologically naïve.

    1. On 2021-12-18 19:05:20, user Ben Veal wrote:

      Looks likely we'll be facing this individual freedom vs collective safety dilemma on a regular basis from now on, omicron is unlikely to be the last variant, and the inevitable flu pandemic hasn't struck yet.

      The kinds questions we all want answers to are: if I go the cinema in an area with a population density of X, infection rate of Y, and an immunity level of Z, how much extra risk am I incurring on myself and others? <br /> How does this compare with other risks such as smoking in a public space, or driving above the speed limit? <br /> The comparison ought to be done in terms of life expectancy rather than lives, e.g. using microlives rather than micromorts, to ensure a fairer comparison. <br /> How do the corresponding costs of safety compliance compare?

    1. On 2021-12-21 15:47:29, user Yingying Wang wrote:

      A typo: "The group differences in fluency were not significant, and the CI group scored marginally lower in fluency tasks than their TH peers (g = - .67, p < .001)." should be "The group differences in fluency were not significant, and the CI group scored marginally lower in fluency tasks than their TH peers (g = - .67, p =0.054)."

    1. On 2021-12-22 22:18:39, user Le Bon wrote:

      Interesting work.<br /> I suggest to the authors to add another analysis grouping all vaccinated patients 3 month after dose 2, including thoose having received the dose 3 and simulating an ITT analysis.

      There are several possibilities here.<br /> 1)The vaccine efficacy of 2 doses is really negative for Omicron 3 months after vaccine, and the third dose is really efficient against Omicron, at least during one month.<br /> 2)The negative efficacy is due to a temporal bias, or a selection bias (for example the more careful persons get vaccinated first) ins this case the 2 doses could be without a negative efficacy, but the efficacy of the third dose could be an artefact.

      Those 2 groups have to be merged, and analyzed in time.

      Typically, if the merged group has zero efficacy, an artefact is likely.<br /> If the merged group has globally a positive efficacy, a real effect of the the third dose is likely. (But no conclusions on the negative effect of 2 doses)

      If the merged group has globally a negative effect, it means a real negative effect of 2 doses after 3 months (but no conclusions on the positive effect of 3 doses)

    2. On 2021-12-29 01:23:50, user lowell2 wrote:

      The negative estimates in the final period arguably suggest different behaviour and/or exposure patterns in the vaccinated and unvaccinated cohorts causing underestimation of the VE. --uh, evidence that suddenly at 91 days people started behaving differently than they did the previous 90 days? this conclusion in the discussion has no substantiation whatsoever. Maybe the vaccine just didn't work after that regardless of what people did or didn't do.

    1. On 2021-12-25 08:38:40, user Eslam Maher wrote:

      The authors investigate whether Machine Learning (ML) algorithms fare better compared to traditional Cox models in big data. They selected Glioblastoma and gliosarcoma from SEER as the basis of their data set. There are two main points that are worth considering here, (1) statistical, and (2) clinical.

      (1) a- Glioblastomas are relatively rare diseases, therefore, readers need to bare in mind that the hypothesis studied here may not be relevant to their work that is usually mono-institutional or multi-institutional. Unlike the huge SEER database, we never actually have such numbers at hand to analyze in survival models.

      There is no doubt that Cox would outperform ML models in smaller samples. ML is gaining popularity in the medical community that is hugely inflated and unnecessary.

      b- Unlike ML approaches, the performance of Cox models is heavily dependent on its assumptions. This includes the proportionality of hazards between levels of a given variable, which the authors do not seem to have investigated this assumption before running the model.

      Another assumption is how the model was selected in the first place. The authors say they have run Cox univariably to decide upon the variables that would be used in the final mode. It is unclear whether a "significant" variable is considered as such at 5% alpha. Regardless of the alpha level, automated stepwise methods are notorious, this is because they are very popular among physicians and not professional statisticians and epidemiologists. Stepwise methods do not allow modelers to think about the model at hand. Plus, some causal variables may not be statistically significant, while some nuisance variables may be coincidentally significant due to high N. Automated regression using p-values is a bad idea because it also ignores multiplicity problems.

      (2) a- 22.6% of the cases included had no surgery, how then were they diagnosed as glioblastomas if no tissue samples were available? It is unclear if surgeries comprised craniotomies and biopsies or the former alone.

      b- All glioblastomas and gliosarcomas are grade IV tumors, however, for some reason, grade is a variable included in the models with levels of grade I, II, III, and IV!

      c- Reference categories in the authors' models were selected alphabetically rather than clinically. For Site, there are 14 levels using ICD-O classifications. Such classifications are not meant for clinical correlations. For example, all Lobar sites (frontal, pariental, occipital etc) are part of the Cerebrum. There are only 2 cases available for cauda equina glioblastomas, which is nonsensical to include as a separate level in the model (which puts more constraints in the model's degrees of freedom while also resulting in unstable ratios).

      d- Finally, the median survival for glioblastoma patients as noted by the authors was eight months. Looking for model accuracy at 120 months is just insane.

      This would have a been a neat paper had the authors run a proper Cox model rather than run a straw man, and designed their study with a neuro-oncologist. Even then, please note that this preprint is concerned with the performace of these models IN BIG DATA only, so do not extrapolate to the data you are routinely working with.

    1. On 2021-12-25 11:00:44, user Jeffrey_S_Morris wrote:

      These results are strange indeed.

      The fact that this time period is so short, and that delta was still so dominant during this period, makes these results very difficult to interpret given the competition between delta and omicron

      Given the already well documented immune escape properties of omicron vs vaccination, previous infection and monoclonal antibodies, yet the strong transmission advantages of delta, it is possible (likely?) that the infections from those with immune protection are predominantly omicron, but for those without immune protection it is predominantly delta. This effect could strongly reduce omicron specific infection rates in unvaccinated and have a strong effect on VE estimates.

      Too bad they removed previously infected from these data and didn’t consider them a stratified cohort. If this competition effect was a major factor here, then one would also expect the cases among previously infections would also be dominated by omicron, and previous infection would also be deemed to have “negative effectiveness” vs omicron. These data would give us an idea of whether the negative effect is a component of vaccination or an artifact of this competition effect.

      If omicron eventually dominates and delta disappears, then this competition effect would disappear and we’d have a clearer sense of VE of vaccines vs omicron outside of this competition effect.

      But there is also a chance that delta has an inherent transmission advantage that will cause it to remain dominant in unvaccinated while omicron’s immune escape makes it dominate among vaccinated and previously infected.

      In that case we might see delta and omicron coexist in some sense.

      We will have to watch these data unfold in the coming weeks and months

    2. On 2021-12-25 19:28:38, user Nate Dyer wrote:

      Decades of coronavirus research warned us about this.

      Why was it ignored?

      Why did scientists choose to make vaccines that specifically target the spike protein when so many studies made the warning below?

      "We suggested that antibodies against spike proteins of SARS-CoV may cause ADE effect. This data raises reasonable concern regarding the use of SARS-CoV vaccine and shed light on some roles in SARS pathogenesis."

      https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.go...

    3. On 2022-01-08 03:26:25, user Neven Karlovac wrote:

      Interesting article but the author's explanation of the negative infectivity seems arbitrary speculation and the article would be better without it.

    4. On 2022-01-24 21:23:22, user KBNJ wrote:

      Am I wrong in thinking it's entirely possible that the negative effectiveness of the vaccine for recovered people is real (biological), and not behavioral? Our bodies don't have unlimited immune resources. If vaccines induce an immune response that is less effective than recovered immunity at fighting an evolved variant (which various studies have shown at least for Delta), I would think this would be expected, and not a surprise.

    1. On 2021-12-31 02:47:03, user Robert Crombie wrote:

      Is the same true for Astrazeneca ?<br /> If Astrazeneca is less protective, why aren't the authorities warning those that have been given it ?

    1. On 2021-12-31 07:01:37, user Georg Neeby wrote:

      Hi, I was surprise to see your paper, it was mentioned in a conspiracy blog, https://childrenshealthdefe...

      ITs being used as a reason to not get vaccinated, and for children specifically to not get vaccinated. I took a look at your data, and there is nothing to your paper. Its all just noise, nothing would be reproducible. Your claims massively overstate your data, which basically shows no difference, and you havent controlled for batch effects. Given how this information is being used by nefarious players, you should repeat the entire study with adequate power, I bet none of your new data will show the same trends as your old data.

    1. On 2022-01-02 21:25:37, user madmathemagician wrote:

      In its 4th revision, part of the title changes from an unsubstantiated suggestive question "Are COVID-19 data reliable?" which the article fails to answer, to "Applying Benford’s law to COVID-19 data: ...". The article mentions the conditions of applicability of Benford’s law, but does not test these assumptions on the source data, and "compensates" by making weak but suggestive claims, and recommending further research.

      I'd recommend the author not doing any further research.

    2. On 2022-01-02 22:34:18, user madmathemagician wrote:

      The article does not discuss substantial differences in reporting by country in the used data set: some countries are only reporting every week, or not in weekends.

      I guess the author could add another "disclaimer" about this issue, and creating a new revision. Perhaps even discussing how it would affect the fitness of a Benford's distribution.

      However even when this issue is properly addressed, this article is about applying non-applicable statistics, concluding nothing, but making weak but suggestive claims.

    1. On 2022-01-04 00:38:33, user Leicesterboy wrote:

      This study looks at 29,000 Omicron patients, but the authors seem unable to find the courage to look at the statistics for “risk of death” independently, preferring to conflate it with other outcomes, like ICU or hospitalizations. Why? Isn’t that the outcome most of us are interested in and fear? By the way, I’d also be keen to see people be more definitive about the word “Hospitalizations” with COVID. We now know that hospitalizations arising from COVID are conflated with Hospitalizations with COVID, meaning those admitted due to an ankle sprain and discharged quickly are included in the “Hospitalizations” numbers. Clearly this is meaningless if the purpose of the analysis is to look at risk from COVID. The fact that someone with a sprained ankle had asymptomatic COVID has absolutely no interest for me. It Carrie’s zero information about health risk and potential outcomes for me.

    1. On 2022-01-05 09:52:18, user Zacharias Fögen wrote:

      Dear Authors,

      Thank you for this in-depth analysis, yet you draw conclusions that lack physiological plausibility.

      First, you draw conclusions from serum neutralisation to transmissibility. As any SARS-COV-2 variant replicates in nasopharyngeal epidermal tissue, and protection from these kind of viruses is solely reliant on sIgA or IgM but not on monomeric IgG, you cannot draw this conclusion.<br /> This has been well researched in animal coronavirus vaccinations and is also the reason why Polio vaccines are given p.o. instead of s.c. in endemic regions.<br /> Furthermore, you are describing the variant as hyper-transmissible, yet again, there is no physiological explanation for this. Entry into epithel cells is only a micrometer of the distance needed to move from one person to another. Changes in spike protein have no effect on the men-to-men transmission. <br /> Furthermore, you are relying on studies which do not control for differences in contacts between the group now infected with Omicron variant and those previously infected with Delta variant. There are less restrictions now in England and Denmark then when Delta variant arrived. Statistics also show that age group 20-30 is primarily infected with Omicron, and as those have the most variable contacts, there is clear indication of bias.

      Best,

      Zacharias Fögen

    1. On 2022-01-08 01:52:21, user Danuta Skowronski wrote:

      When reporting paradoxical findings (e.g. negative vaccine effectiveness (VE)) based upon an observational study design, the first explanation to be considered is methodological bias (i.e. study weakness). Only after due diligence investigation of that most likely hypothesis can a possible biological effect (e.g. increased vaccine-associated risk) then be considered. The pre-print posted here does not provide that due diligence check.

      An underlying requirement for valid VE estimation by any observational study (including the test-negative design) is comparable exposure risk between vaccinated and unvaccinated participants. However, vaccine passports have permitted broader social mixing by vaccinated compared to unvaccinated people. There is thus good reason to suspect that the vaccinated and unvaccinated are no longer at comparable likelihood of exposure. Higher exposure risk and therefore spuriously increased likelihood of vaccinated individuals contributing to the case series would negatively affect VE estimates due to behavioural rather than biological differences.

      Another underlying requirement for valid VE estimation is comparable case ascertainment between vaccinated and unvaccinated participants. The test-negative design standardizes for the likelihood of being tested as an advantage over other observational (e.g. cohort) study designs but the likelihood of being found a case is not the same across multiple different reasons for being tested (i.e. testing indication), which may differ between vaccinated and unvaccinated people. Testing indications with different pre-test likelihoods of being positive include symptomatic illness vs. asymptomatic exposure vs. being part of an outbreak vs. routine pre-travel, workplace or pre-hospital admission screening etc. The recent deployment of rapid antigen testing, followed by confirmatory PCR testing, also affects VE estimates in uncertain ways. The pre-print posted here provides overall VE estimates against any infection in any age group, pooling these multiple testing indications. As such, selection bias remains one of the foremost explanations for their paradoxical findings.

      We urge extreme caution before accepting paradoxical negative VE estimates at face value based on any observational study that has not addressed the above methodological issues.

      Danuta M Skowronski MD, FRCPC<br /> BC Centre for Disease Control<br /> Vancouver, British Columbia<br /> Canada

      and

      Gaston De Serres MD, PhD<br /> Institut national de santé publique du Québec<br /> Quebec City, Quebec<br /> Canada

    1. On 2022-01-08 00:34:01, user AC wrote:

      If ~40% of prevalent cases during the “omicron emergent” window are delta, why would severe outcomes be less than 40% what they were in the previous time window? Even if the severe effects were concentrated entirely among delta patients and none from omicron, these rates are still lower than expected. This suggests to me there could be an unidentified confounding factor.

    1. On 2022-01-08 08:27:05, user Menno Schaap wrote:

      Significant contribution! Self-tests are promoted for testing oneself before an event or visiting relatives. But in case the subject has no symptoms, reliability is only 22.6%. Therefore perceived feeling of safety is questionable. People should realize that.

    1. On 2022-01-13 17:45:28, user T S wrote:

      There is a calculation error in Table S8 for the Hispanic noSGTF. The percentage listed in parenthesis is incorrect and appears to be a transposition of the line above it for Black non-hispanic.

      Also, I would hate for this article to appear biased upon publication but listing the actual value for increased risk of Omicron infection as compared to Delta for people with prior Covid diagnosis "4.45 (3.24-6.12) fold higher" yet listing a general statement of just "higher" when presenting that same data for prior vaccines leads an astute reader to assume the authors are using framing to present a bias to the data in favor of vaccines. With our top health officials playing politician by misrepresenting studies and dodging questions it is ever more important that actual scientists and peer reviewed studies are above reproach or we risk further deteriation of the rapidly declining public trust in scientists and studies.

      "Among cases first ascertained in outpatient settings, adjusted odds of documented prior SARS-CoV-2 infection >=90 days before individuals’ first positive test during the study period were 4.45 (3.24-6.12) fold higher among cases with Omicron variant infections than among cases with Delta variant infections infection (Figure 1; Table 2). <br /> Similarly, adjusted odds of prior receipt of each vaccine series (1, 2, or 3 doses of BNT162b2/mRNA-1973, or Ad.26.COV2.S with or without a booster dose of any vaccine) were higher among cases with Omicron as compared to Delta variant infections."

    1. On 2022-01-16 04:06:03, user FreedomForEvar wrote:

      I would like to know how many of these people in the Cohorts had previous infections le Natural immunity The Hospitals can tell and which did these people have Delta or Omicron?<br /> https://www.medrxiv.org/con...<br /> Death rate Los Angeles County Omicron 1 died out of 57,000 that is .0018% <br /> I recommend you take a look at this study that actually includes the Naturally immune START Acknowledging What has been around Since the Very beginning of Human life. <br /> Also <br /> Death rates per WHO<br /> 7 days ending Jan 11 <br /> World wide Death rate is .24% USA same time Death rate is .24% Same period For California Death rate is .09% <br /> 1st week of December USA Death rate is .90% per WHO<br /> Data from England and other countries Show that the Vaccinated are Catching Omicron/Delta virus 80% of the time<br /> it's time to figure out why the vaccine for Covid 19 Is no longer working<br /> What in Delta and what in Omicron Is causing this? What in the Vaccine Is causing this?

    1. On 2022-01-23 20:43:42, user ELSA GRENMYR wrote:

      Did you verify that all patients infected with VOC-Delta and VOC-omicron were SARS-COV2 naive, or could there be a mix of convalescent and naive individuals? How would the infectious viral titres look in a re-infected cohort?

    1. On 2022-02-01 12:17:22, user Daniel Anthony wrote:

      While the primary endpoint may have been missed, the shorter illness course and attenuation of loss of smell and taste is very interesting and warrants further investigation. It also suggests that the mode of action is unlikely to be related to the inhibition of TMPRSS2 to block SPKIE activation.

    1. On 2022-02-01 17:13:38, user Ilya Gordeychuk wrote:

      A disclaimer. I'm employed at the Chumakov Center, the developer and manufacturer of CoviVac.

      First of all, thank you for your work. Clinical description and assessment of cases of symptomatic SARS-CoV-2 infection in vaccinated people during the circulation of emerging virus variants are essential both for the general public and for the healthcare system.

      Still, I think some interpretations require further clarification. The first two questions coming in mind after reading the paper are:

      1. Did you do any genome sequencing of the virus isolates during your work? It looks now that you assume that those cases were all caused by the delta variant based only on the general epidemiological data saying that delta was predominant in St. Petersburg at the period of observation. If so, the title of the study may be a bit misleading, as it states that those cases were all delta.

      2. You state throughout the manuscript that you see significant differences between the effectiveness of the three vaccines, but these interpretations are not supported by the data. <br /> Namely, you state in the abstract that "In contrast to other Russian vaccines, Gam-COVID-Vac is effective against symptomatic SARS-CoV-2 infection caused by Delta VOC", on Page 8 that "CoviVac usefulness is also doubtful" etc. At the same time there is no data in the paper supporting this statement. There is no statistical comparison between the CoviVac group and other vaccine groups. Moreover, I performed a statistical assessment of the data presented in Table A1 and there is no statistically significant difference between the CoviVac group and the Gam-COVID-Vac group, so the data presented in this table directly contradicts your interpretation of the data.

      Best regards,<br /> Ilya Gordeychuk

    1. On 2022-02-06 23:31:27, user Danilo Vieira wrote:

      I consider that the lack of education in PGx among clinicians makes implementation difficult, but I don't think this barrier is 'extremely' relevant.

    1. On 2022-02-21 11:05:51, user diveoceanos wrote:

      Studies 4 through 6 are doing a matched-cohort analysis of Ct values between group 2 (unvaccinated and reinfected) and unvaccinated and infected individuals, individuals with breakthrough infections after BNT16262 vaccine and individuals with breakthrough infection after mRNA-1273 vaccine respectively.

      Based on the data the mean Ct value is higher for the unvaccinated and reinfected individuals in all studies compared to the matched-cohort, with studies 4 and 5 reaching statistical significance, while in study 6 the P-value is at 0.104 indicating not a statistically significant difference.

      In the text the authors are ranking the infectiousness in order of decreased magnitude in line with their findings i.e.

      “The different comparisons suggest an overall hierarchy, present for both asymptomatic and symptomatic infections, where primary infections in unvaccinated persons are most infectious, followed by BNT162b2 breakthrough infections, mRNA-1273 breakthrough infections, and finally reinfections in unvaccinated persons.”

      Figure 2 is clearly showing that reinfections are associated with higher Ct compared to all other studied groups.

      However there is misleading information on tables 4 and 5. Specifically tables 4 and 5 are showing in the last two rows that infectiousness of breakthrough infections is less compared to infectiousness of reinfections in unvaccinated individuals:

      • Infectiousness of BNT162b2-vaccine breakthrough infections relative to reinfections in unvaccinated individuals<br /> • Infectiousness of mRNA-1273-vaccine breakthrough infections relative to reinfections in unvaccinated individuals

      Either the line descriptions should change to reflect the correct ratio (i.e. infectiousness of reinfections in unvaccinated individuals over the breakthrough infections or the relative infectiousness should be recalculated to reflect the line description.

    1. On 2020-03-29 18:14:17, user Sinai Immunol Review Project wrote:

      Main findings:

      This study examined<br /> the incidence of diarrhea in patients infected with SARS-CoV-2 across three<br /> recently published cohorts and found that there are statistically significant differences<br /> by Fisher’s exact test. They report that this could be due to subjective<br /> diagnosis criterion for diarrhea or from patients first seeking medical care<br /> from gastroenterologist. In order to minimize nosocomial infections arising<br /> from unsuspected patients with diarrhea and gain comprehensive understanding of<br /> transmission routes for this viral pathogen, they compared the transcriptional<br /> levels of ACE2 of various human tissues from NCBI public database as well as in<br /> small intestine tissue from CD57BL/6 mice using single cell sequencing. They<br /> show that ACE2 expression is not only increased in the human small intestine,<br /> but demonstrate a particular increase in mice enterocytes positioned on the<br /> surface of the intestinal lining exposed to viral pathogens. Given that ACE2 is<br /> the viral receptor for SARS-CoV-2 and also reported to regulate diarrhea, their<br /> data suggests the small intestine as a potential transmission route and<br /> diarrhea as a potentially underestimated symptom in COVID19 patients that must<br /> be carefully monitored. Interestingly, however, they show that ACE2 expression<br /> level is not elevated in human lung tissue.

      Limitations of the Study:

      Although this study demonstrates a statistical<br /> difference in the incidence of diarrhea across three separate COVID19 patient<br /> cohorts, their conclusions are limited by a small sample size. Specifically,<br /> the p-value computed by Fisher’s exact test is based on a single patient cohort<br /> of only six cases of which 33% are reported to have diarrhea, while the<br /> remaining two larger cohorts with 41 and 99 cases report 3% and 2% diarrhea incidence,<br /> respectively. Despite showing significance, they would need to acquire larger<br /> sample sizes and cohorts to minimize random variability and draw meaningful conclusions.<br /> Furthermore, they do not address why ACE2 expression level is not elevated in<br /> human lung tissue despite it being a major established route of transmission<br /> for SARS-CoV-2. It could be helpful to validate this result by looking at ACE2<br /> expression in mouse lung tissue. Finally, although this study is descriptive<br /> and shows elevated ACE2 expression in small intestinal epithelial cells, it<br /> does not establish a mechanistic link to SARS-CoV-2 infection of the host.<br /> Overall, their claim that infected patients exhibiting diarrhea pose an increased<br /> risk to hospital staff needs to be further substantiated.

      Relevance:

      This study provides a possible transmission route and a potentially underappreciated<br /> clinical symptom for SARS-CoV-2 for better clinical management and control of<br /> COVID19.

    1. On 2020-04-01 13:40:40, user Sinai Immunol Review Project wrote:

      Title: Correlation between universal BCG vaccination policy and reduced morbidity and mortality for COVID-19: an epidemiological study

      Keywords: BCG vaccine – epidemiology – vaccination policy

      Main findings:The authors compared middle and high income countries that never had a universal BCG vaccination policy (Italy, Lebanon, Nederland, Belgium) and countries with a current policy (low income countries were excluded from the analysis as their number of cases and deaths might be underreported for the moment). Countries that never implement BCG vaccination have a higher mortality rate than countries which have a BCG vaccination policy (16.38 deaths per million people vs 0.78). Next, the authors show that an earlier start of vaccination correlates with a lower number of deaths per million inhabitants. They interpret this as the vaccine protecting a larger fraction of elderly people, which are usually more affected by COVID-19. Moreover, higher number of COVID-19 cases were presented in countries that never implemented a universal BCG vaccination policy.

      Limitations:While this study aims to test an intriguing hypothesis unfortunately, the data is not sufficient at this time to accurately make any determinations. Several caveats must be noted including: not all countries are in the same stage of the pandemic, the number of cases/deaths is still changing very rapidly in a lot of countries and thus the association may only reflect exposure to the virus. This analysis would need to be re-evaluated when all the countries are passed the pandemic and more accurate numbers are available. Additionally, very few middle and high-income countries ever implemented universal BCG vaccination, which can be a source of bias (5 countries, vs 55 that have a BCG vaccine policy). Effective screening and social isolation policies also varied considerable across the countries tested and may reflect another important confounder. The authors could consider analyzing the Case Fatality Rate (CFR, % of patients with COVID-19 that die), to more correct for exposure although testing availability will still bias this result. Variability in mortality within countries or cities with variable vaccination and similar exposure could also be appropriate although confounders will still be present.

      Relevance:BCG vaccine is a live attenuated strain derived from Mycobacterium bovis and used for a vaccine for tuberculosis (TB). This vaccine has been proven to be efficient in preventing childhood meningitis TB, but doesn’t prevent adult TB as efficiently. For this reason, several countries are now only recommending this vaccine for at-risk population only.<br /> This study shows that there is a correlation between BCG vaccination policy and reduced mortality for Covid-19. Indeed, BCG vaccine has been shown to protect against several viruses and enhance innate immunity1, which could explain why it could protect against SARS-CoV-2 infection, but the exact mechanism is still unknown. Moreover, the efficiency of adult/older people vaccination and protection against Covid-19 still needs to be assessed. Regarding this, Australian researchers are starting a clinical trial of BCG vaccine for healthcare workers2, to assess if it can protect them against Covid-19.

      1. Moorlag SJCFM, Arts RJW, van Crevel R, Netea MG. Non-specific effects of BCG vaccine on viral infections. Clinical Microbiology and Infection. 2019;25(12):1473-1478. doi:10.1016/j.cmi.2019.04.020
      2. BCG vaccination to Reduce the impact of COVID-19 in Australian healthcare workers following Coronavirus Exposure (BRACE) Trial | Murdoch Children’s Research Institute. https://www.mcri.edu.au/BRACE. Accessed March 31, 2020.

      Review by Emma Risson part of a project of students, postdocs and faculty at the Immunology Institute of the Icahn school of medicine, Mount Sinai.

    2. On 2020-04-08 06:20:46, user Vincent Hare wrote:

      Logarithmic differences in death rates are also partially explained by the fact that UM and H income countries had the virus first; and there is a clear lag between infections and deaths - of several weeks. On top of this, lower income countries with mandatory BCG programs have also pursued more aggressive lockdowns. Both biases - lag, and lockdown - need to be factored into this analysis BEFORE the effect is tested for statistical significance. Otherwise, the comparison is more or less meaningless.

    3. On 2020-04-08 07:30:20, user Lara wrote:

      It does not appear that the authors adjusted for number of tests conducted. There is a significant difference in the number of tests conducted in high income like the US (>2 million) versus LMIC like South Africa (1700 tests). Right now it can't be assumed that BCG is protective, when the full scope of the problem is not unknown, or in other words true case load is presented.

    1. On 2020-07-09 18:37:18, user K dawg wrote:

      Nobody cares about the CFR because it is arbitrarily based on testing availability.

      What is the Covid IFR? Looks to be around 0.1% from what I've seen... about like influenza.

    1. On 2019-07-09 23:24:44, user Guyguy wrote:

      EVOLUTION OF THE EBOLA EPIDEMIC IN THE PROVINCES OF NORTH KIVU AND ITURI

      Tuesday, July 9, 2019

      The epidemiological situation of the Ebola Virus Disease dated July 8, 2019:

      Since the beginning of the epidemic, the cumulative number of cases is 2,428, of which 2,334 are confirmed and 94 are probable. In total, there were 1,641 deaths (1,547 confirmed and 94 probable) and 683 people healed.<br /> 322 suspected cases under investigation;<br /> 10 new confirmed cases, including 8 in Beni, 1 in Vuhovi and 1 in Oicha;<br /> 11 new confirmed case deaths:<br /> 5 community deaths, including 3 Beni, 1 in Vuhovi and 1 in Oicha;<br /> 6 deaths in Ebola Treatment Center including 3 in Beni, 1 in Mabalako, 1 in Butembo and 1 in Katwa.

      The cumulative number of confirmed / probable cases among health workers is 128 (5% of all confirmed / probable cases) including 40 deaths.

      NEWS<br /> Ebola Virus Disease in Uganda<br /> The Ministry of Health of the Republic of Uganda announced that all index case contacts have completed their mandatory 21-day follow-up period without developing signs of the disease. As a result, Ebola transmission in Kasese District was interrupted. As a reminder, the index case was a 5-year-old boy who had traveled with his mother to the burial of his grandfather who died of Ebola in Aloya, in the health zone of Mabalako.<br /> Uganda has strengthened its border surveillance system. Thus, all travelers coming from the DRC or having traveled to the DRC during the last 21 days must go through the sanitary control at Entebbe airport and at the various road and sea entry points of the country.<br /> Source: Ministry of Health press team on the state of the response to the Ebola epidemic in the Democratic Republic of Congo.

    1. On 2019-07-23 17:47:15, user GuyguyKabundi Tshima wrote:

      EVOLUTION OF THE EBOLA EPIDEMIC IN THE PROVINCES OF NORTH KIVU AND ITURI

      Monday, July 22, 2019

      The epidemiological situation of the Ebola Virus Disease dated 21 July 2019:

      Since the beginning of the epidemic, the cumulative number of cases is 2,592, of which 2,498 are confirmed and 94 are probable. In total, there were 1,743 deaths (1,649 confirmed and 94 probable) and 729 people healed.<br /> 272 suspected cases under investigation;<br /> 14 new confirmed cases, including 10 in Beni, 2 in Mandima, 1 in Oicha and 1 in Mutwanga;<br /> 6 new confirmed case deaths:<br /> 3 community deaths including 1 in Beni, 1 in Mandima and 1 in Mutwanga;<br /> 3 deaths at the Ebola Treatment Center of Beni.

      Change in coordination of the response to Ebola Virus Disease<br /> A new arrangement of the Presidency of the Republic announced this Saturday, July 20, 2019, the establishment of a technical secretary under the direct supervision of the Head of State to coordinate the response against the Ebola Virus Dpsease in North Kivu and Ituri. This technical secretary is headed by Professor Jean-Jacques Muyembe, who was also chairman of the laboratory committee in coordinating the current response since August 2018.<br /> As a result, all communications related to the response will now be managed directly by the Presidency.

      Source: The press team of the Ministry of Health.

    1. On 2020-02-10 08:17:02, user zjuliu wrote:

      Firstly I think this should be a milestone for 2019 NCov research because of the work from Academician Zhong and his colleagues. But one thing I need to point out: this paper included patients from Wuhan, Hubei (except Wuhan) and other cities except Hubei, but as we know, it is very different on epidemiological trend, mortality etc when compared with these cohorts. Therefore, I think it is worthy to share this trend on public database so that the scholars can better use these data for further study.

    2. On 2020-02-10 20:08:48, user Marc Bevand wrote:

      93.6% of cases (1029 out of 1099) are still in the hospital. Their outcome (death or recovery) is not known yet. This is why the case fatality rate observed (1.4%) so far is low..

      For comparison, the two other studies with 41 and 99 cases had only 17% and 58% cases still in the hospital at the time of their writing. More cases had resolved, this is why their case fatality rate was higher (15% and 11%).

    1. On 2020-02-12 07:04:04, user Marc Bevand wrote:

      Table S3 in supplemental data says there are 3665 confirmed patients with 2019-nCoV infections. All the numbers in the table add up to 3665. However the rest of the preprint claims 4021 confirmed patients. What explains this discrepancy?

    1. On 2020-02-13 16:20:21, user Xiaolin Zhu wrote:

      We are the authors. We have retrained our model with confirmed cases by Feb. 11. We updated our prediction results. The total infections in mainland China would be 72172 by March 12, 2020 under current trend. It will be 149774 in the worst situation.

    1. On 2020-02-20 09:21:38, user Linh Ngoc Dinh wrote:

      Thanks for sharing your research.<br /> Just a small comment: In an introductory graph, you said "In jurisdictions outside China (and excluding Hong Kong, Macao and Taiwan) the CFR as detailed in the 13 FebruaryWHO Report [3] was 1/447 = 0.22% (95% confidence interval (CI) = 0.40% to 1.26%)."<br /> This is quite misleading statement, WHO has never mentioned an estimate of CFR outside China until now. I think what cite here is the information that there was 1 death and 447 confirmed cases outside China. You should make this point clear, because as a reader, I feel like the number 0.22% (95%CI: .4%-1.26%) is what WHO said. <br /> Also, I wonder how you arrived to that 95%CI as we have only 1 point estimate.

      Thanks much!

    1. On 2020-02-25 12:11:41, user Igor Nesteruk wrote:

      Dear colleagues,

      Unfortunately, the coronavirus epidemic in Italy is developing very much like we have seen in mainland China (details in my preprint).

      http://dx.doi.org/10.13140/...

      Only very strict quarantine and safeguards can stop the spread of the infection throughout Europe.

      May be, this information could be useful for your investigations.

      I have found today the accumulated number of cases in Italy – 229 - on the official site of Italian Health Ministry.

      http://www.salute.gov.it/po...

      This point was already in the figure from

      http://dx.doi.org/10.13140/...

      We need the correct and reliable information about the accumulated number of cases. Do you have any links?

      Be careful and healthy!

      Sincerely yours,

      Igor Nesteruk,

    1. On 2020-02-26 19:26:13, user ricwerme wrote:

      Did I miss the exported case counts the paper used to determine the internal # of cases, or is it just "three" with assumed missed cases?

      The abstract says "suggesting a underlying burden of disease in that country than is indicated by reported cases." Should that be "a greater underlying..."?

    1. On 2020-02-28 02:55:16, user Art Enquirer wrote:

      Will it be possible for an AI startup (actually a hackathon team) to secure access to your data? Will you share for the sake of the world? We are also running servers with AI algorithms and wish to pre-test your conclusion.

    2. On 2020-02-28 19:16:00, user Antoine Jomier wrote:

      Hello, i am running an ai algorithm start up company. Would it be possible to share your model or data set so that we distribue it in France. We would not do any commercial exploitation but make it available widely to the community. My contact antoine.jomier@incepto-medical.com<br /> Thanks

    1. On 2020-03-05 09:13:52, user Jørgen K. Kanters wrote:

      Important paper but needs to be improved to be a High flier. First around 50 % had a hypertensive history. In an American population that would mean hypertension is protective. You need an age gender matched control population from the same area to compare with. Furthermore you miss a very important point. Which medicine prescriptions had the patients before admission? ACE Inhibitors and A2 antagonists as the most interesting. Again compared to a control population

    1. On 2020-03-05 16:05:56, user Erik Kulstad wrote:

      Thank you for this data. You mention that you excluded patients with mild symptoms who had been transferred to mobile cabin hospitals (as well as patients who had been transferred to other hospitals for advanced life support), but were any of the patients with mild symptoms then re-admitted, to then become patients that were included in your 109 total (or are you able to track)?

    1. On 2020-03-14 08:04:28, user Stefano Gaburro wrote:

      Minimal viral titer for infection: thanks for this great piece of work that allows governmental bodies to give suggestion. One question: the viral titer decreases over time meaning it could be detected but no longer infectious. Have you determined the minimal titer of virus to determine an infection?

    2. On 2020-03-14 19:27:30, user Halmartin Brown wrote:

      Covid-19 Question: What is the risk of the virus being transmitted on paper and mail in general and packages? Are mail and package carriers being tested and are they using gloves? I read it can survive up to a day on cardboard and cash doesn't allow viruses to survive as long.

    3. On 2020-03-15 18:34:58, user tusitw wrote:

      Are you also going to study as a function of humidity?<br /> Below LOD, do we know it is still capable of infecting? a question in the same theme as Stefano Gaburro...

    4. On 2020-03-25 17:42:51, user Rudolf Brüggemann wrote:

      It is a bit irritating that version1 and version2 give different values for the half-lifes. Is there an error based on a factor ln10 somewhere? The half-lifes in Table 1 of the supplement of the published version are much smaller than those in Table 1 in the preprint version. E.g., half-life (median) for steel 13.1 hours in the preprint, median of 5.63 hours in Table 1 of the Supplement of the published version.

    1. On 2020-03-17 23:37:34, user RunningThrough wrote:

      Given the study cohort of patients are all hospital admitted patients there in Wuhan, presumably are all in the 'severe' and 'critical' category of all COVID-19 patients per admission policies that we read, so does this present data suggests that the SARS-CoV-2 virus has a higher infectivity amongst blood Gp A patients or that blood Gp A patients are more likely to develop a more severe disease?

    2. On 2020-03-20 17:02:20, user Kevin Hamill wrote:

      An editing suggestion:<br /> This manuscript will be read by new media/journalists therefore I would encourage more careful use of the term "significant".

      For example where it says "blood group A had a significantly higher risk for COVID-19 " if that was quoted then people would hear this as "blood group A had a much higher risk for COVID-19."

      In the same sentence, I would write:<br /> blood group A had approximately 20% higher risk for COVID-19 (odds ratio-OR, 1.20; 95% confidence interval-CI 1.02~1.43, P = 0.02). <br /> [and equivalent changes with the other phrases].

      Note that as you have already stated the p values, using the word significant has no added value, it only provides a source for ambiguity.

    3. On 2020-03-26 07:52:06, user M.E.Valentijn wrote:

      Has anyone been able to verify their source claiming 33% prevalence of Type O in the general population? I can't find the journal that's cited for that, and a newer article says 30.2% for Han Chinese, not the nearly 34% claimed here. Though that's Han Chinese in general, not just in Wuhan. Can't find their other sources for normal blood types in the area either.

    1. On 2020-03-20 20:57:29, user Sylvie Vullioud wrote:

      Could authors provide information to dissipate high risks of bias:

      1. Manuscript was first published on mediterranee-infection.com website, not on medRxiv. On the manuscript on the website on mediterranee-infection.com, I can read 'In Press 17 March 2020 – DOI : 10.1016/j.ijantimicag.2020.105949'. It means that manuscript was already accepted by International Journal of Antimicrobial Agents at the time when the manuscript was deposit on the 20.03.2020 on medRxiv.

      -> Pre-print on medRxiv is not a real pre-print to collect feed-back for manuscript improvement, as originally designed for. Moreover, medRxiv states: 'All preprints posted to medRxiv are accompanied by a prominent statement that the content has not been certified by peer review'.

      -> There is an obvious potential conflict of interest, because last author Raoult is editor of the article collection COVID-19 Therapeutic and Prevention in International Journal of Antimicrobial Agents.

      -> International Journal of Antimicrobial Agents is runned by Elsevier, suggesting 'If accepted for publication, we encourage authors to link from the preprint to their formal publication via its Digital Object Identifier (DOI)'.

      1. Discussion on the controversy of main cited Chinese paper, ref 8 ?

      2. According to paper, allocation of patients group was random but treated group is 51.2 years average and control group 37.3 years?

      3. Article describes 3 conditions of patients: asymptomatic, low and high symptoms. Why?

      4. Care to patients, biological and physiological sampling and analyses, and statistical analyses were not blinded. Why?

      5. I think that no placebo was used. Why?

      6. 6 patients on total of 42 were excluded from study: three patients were transferred to intensive care unit, 1 stopped because of nausea, 1 died. One left hospital. <br /> It is written :'study results presented here are therefore those of 36 patients (20 hydroxychloroquine-treated patients and 16 control patients). Why were dead, intensive care, and nausea patients not included in statistical treatment? <br /> -> This may be a selection bias? <br /> -> What about unwanted very worrying effects of the treatment?

      7. 'The protocol, appendices and any other relevant documentation were submitted to the French National Agency for Drug Safety (ANSM) (2020-000890-25) and to the French Ethic Committee (CPP Ile de France) (20.02.28.99113) for reviewing and approved on 5th and 6th March, 2020, respectively'. Pre-print was posted on 20.03.2020. Time points on day 14 on patients.<br /> -> So recruitment and study started before approval of ANSM and French Ethic Committee? How is it possible?

      8. How is it plausible that numerous authors (18!) participated equally to the work? Is it possible to add their respective contributions?

      Thank you in advance for considering my questions. <br /> Regards, <br /> Sylvie Vullioud

    1. On 2020-03-22 04:52:08, user Juan B. Gutierrez wrote:

      In summary, provided that our Ro is correct, and we are certain it is, as we reused very long results from our recent peer-reviewed result, https://doi.org/10.1007/s11... Bulletin of Mathematical Biology (the premier venue for the discipline), then with the information that we have today, Ro cannot be close to 3.

      By a suggestion of Dr. Jeremy Faust, MD, Brigham and Women's Hospital, @jeremyfaust, I modified the most uncertain parameters to produce an Ro of 3.These parameters are the mean infectious periods for symptomatic (lambda_yr) and asymptomatic (lambda_ar) subjects. If we consider the median of the other parameters to be correct (there is more data), then the mean infectious period of a symptomatic patient should be 4.9 days, and the mean infectious period of an asymptomatic should be 4.1 days. These numbers do not match what is happening on the ground. If we reduce alpha, the probability of becoming asymptomatic upon infection, to something less than 0.86, e.g. alpha = 0.5, then the mean infectious period of a symptomatic patient should be 3.7 days, and the mean infectious period of an asymptomatic should be 3.1 days.

      The reality is that patients are infectious before the onset of symptoms, and the disease lasts more than 3 days in symptomatic patients. The necessary conclusion is that via a computational reductio ad absurdum, and with the information we have today, Ro cannot be close to 3.

    1. On 2020-03-23 21:39:01, user Shayan wrote:

      wondering what the 4000+ test results refers to with there only being 28 patients? looking at the distribution plots, there seem to be more than 28 data points per biomarker

    1. On 2020-03-24 18:03:39, user Sinai Immunol Review Project wrote:

      This study is a cross-sectional analysis of 100 patients with COVID-19 pneumonia, divided into mild (n = 34), severe (n = 34), and critical (n = 32) disease status based on clinical definitions. The criteria used to define disease severity are as follows:

      1. Severe – any of the following: respiratory distress or respiratory rate >= 30 respirations/minute; oxygen saturation <= 93% at rest; oxygen partial pressure (PaO2)/oxygen concentration (FiO2) in arterial blood <= 300mmHg, progression of disease on imaging to >50% lung involvement in the short term.

      2. Critical – any of the following: respiratory failure that requires mechanical ventilation; shock; other organ failure that requires treatment in the ICU.

      3. Patients with pneumonia who test positive for COVID-19 who do not have the symptoms delineated above are considered mild.

      Peripheral blood inflammatory markers were correlated to disease status. Disease severity was significantly associated with levels of IL-2R, IL-6, IL-8, IL-10, TNF-?, CRP, ferroprotein, and procalcitonin. Total WBC count, lymphocyte count, neutrophil count, and eosinophil count were also significantly correlated with disease status. Since this is a retrospective, cross-sectional study of clinical laboratory values, these data may be extrapolated for clinical decision making, but without studies of underlying cellular causes of these changes this study does not contribute to a deeper understanding of SARS-CoV-2 interactions with the immune system.

      It is also notable that the mean age of patients in the mild group was significantly different from the mean ages of patients designated as severe or critical (p < 0.001). The mean patient age was not significantly different between the severe and critical groups. However, IL-6, IL-8, procalcitonin (Table 2), CRP, ferroprotein (Figure 3A, 3B), WBC count, and neutrophil count (Figure 4A, 4B) were all significantly elevated in the critical group compared to severe. These data suggest underlying differences in COVID-19 progression that is unrelated to age.

      Given the inflammatory profile outlined in this study, patients who have mild or severe COVID-19 pneumonia, who also have any elevations in the inflammatory biomarkers listed above, should be closely monitored for potential progression to critical status.

    1. On 2020-03-25 22:43:03, user Sinai Immunol Review Project wrote:

      Title: A serological assay to detect SARS-Cov-2 seroconversion in humans

      Immunology keywords: specific serological assay - ELISA - seroconversion - antibody titers

      Note: the authors of this review work in the same institution as the authors of the study<br /> Main findings: <br /> Production of recombinant whole Spike (S) protein and the smaller Receptor Binding Domain (RBD) based on the sequence of Wuhan-Hu-1 SARS-CoV-2 isolate. The S protein was modified to allow trimerization and increase stability. The authors compared the antibody reactivity of 59 banked human serum samples (non-exposed) and 3 serum samples from confirmed SARS-CoV-2 infected patients. All Covid-19 patient sera reacted to the S protein and RBD domain compared to the control sera.<br /> The authors also characterized the antibody isotypes from the Covid-19 patients, and observed stronger IgG3 response than IgG1. IgM and IgA responses were also prevalent.

      Limitations of the study:The authors analyzed a total of 59 control human serum samples, and samples from only three different patients to test for reactivity against the RBD domain and full-length spike protein. It will be important to follow up with a larger number of patient samples to confirm the data obtained. Future studies will be required to assess how long after infection this assay allow to detect anti-CoV2 antibodies. Finally, while likely, the association of seroconversion with protective immunity against SARS-Cov-2 infection still needs to be fully established.

      Relevance: <br /> This study has strong implications in the research against SARS-Cov-2. First, it is now possible to perform serosurveys and determine who has been infected, allowing a more accurate estimate of infection prevalence and death rate. Second, if it is confirmed that re-infection does not happen (or is rare), this assay can be used as a tool to screen healthcare workers and prioritize immune ones to work with infected patients. Third, potential convalescent plasma donors can now be screened to help treating currently infected patient. Finally, the recombinant proteins described in this study represent new tools that can be used for further applications, including vaccine development.

      Review part of a project by students, postdocs and faculty at the Immunology Institut of the Icahn School of Medicine, Mount Sinai.

    1. On 2020-03-27 15:01:22, user Sinai Immunol Review Project wrote:

      These authors looked at 17 hospitalized patients with COVID-19 confirmed by RT-PCR in Dazhou, Sichuan. Patients were admitted between January 22 and February 10 and the final data were collected on February 11. Of the 17 patients, 12 remained hospitalized while 5 were discharged after meeting national standards. The authors observed no differences based on the sex of the patients but found that the discharged patients were younger in age (p = 0.026) and had higher lymphocyte counts (p = 0.005) and monocyte counts (p = 0.019) upon admission.

      This study is limited in the sample size of the study and the last data collection point was only one day after some of the patients were admitted.

      These findings have been somewhat supported by subsequent studies that show that older age and an immunocompromised state are more likely to result in a more severe clinical course with COVID-19. However, other studies have been published that report on larger numbers of cases.

    1. On 2020-03-27 20:04:02, user Sinai Immunol Review Project wrote:

      The authors present a digital PCR (dPCR) diagnostic test for SARS-CoV-2 infection. In 103 individuals that were confirmed in a follow-up to be infected, the standard qPCR test had a positivity rate of 28.2% while the dPCR test detected 87.4% of the infections by detecting an additional 61 positive cases. The authors also tested samples from close contacts (early in infection stage) and convalescing individuals (late in infection stage) and were able to detect SARS-CoV-2 nucleic acid in many more samples using dPCR compared to qPCR.

      The authors make a strong case for the need for a highly sensitive and accurate confirmatory method for diagnosing COVID-19 during this outbreak and present a potential addition to the diagnostic arsenal. They propose a dPCR test that they present has a dramatically lower false negative rate than the standard RT-qPCR tests and can be especially beneficial in people with low viral load, whether they are in the earlier or later stages of infection.

    1. On 2020-03-28 18:07:46, user Ian Timaeus wrote:

      I may be being very stupid, but isn't the ACFR formula given in the preprint wrong? Aren't you simply averaging the age-specific CFRs? So don't you want to multiply their sum by n/100, i.e. divide by the number of age intervals, not multiply by the width of those intervals? As an alternative, you could standardise the age-specific CFRs on the age-sex distribution of Italy, rather than on a uniform age distribution, so that the adjusted CFR equated to the CFR if incidence were constant by age and sex.

    1. On 2020-03-30 15:27:50, user Sinai Immunol Review Project wrote:

      Summary and key findings: Summary of clinical trials registered as of March7, 2020 from U.S, Chinese, Korean, Iranian and European registries. Out of the 353 studies identified, 115 were selected for data extraction. 80% of the trials were randomized with parallel assignment and the median number of planned inclusions was 63 (IRQ, 36-120). Most frequent therapies in the trials included; 1) antiviral drugs [lopinavir/ritonavir (n-15); umifenovir (n=9); favipiravir (n=7); redmesivir (n=5)]; 2) anti-malaria drugs [chloroquine (n-11); hydroxychloroquine (n=7)}; immunosuppressant drugs [methylprednisolone (n=5)]; and stem cell therapies (n=23). Medians of the total number of planned inclusions per trial for these therapies were also included. Stem cells and lopunavir/ritonavir were the most frequently evaluated candidate therapies (23 and 15 trials respectively), whereas remdesivir was only tested in 5 trials but these trials had the highest median number of planned inclusions per trial (400, IQR 394-453). Most of the agents used in the different trials were chosen based on preclinical assessments of antiviral activity against SARS CoV and MERS Cov corona viruses.

      The primary outcomes of the studies were clinical (66%); virological (23%); radiological (8%); or immunological (3%). The trials were classified as those that included patients with severe disease only; trials that included patients with moderate disease; and trials that included patients with severe or moderate disease.

      Limitations: The trials evaluated provided incomplete information: 23% of these were phase IV trials but the bulk of the trials (54%) did not describe the phase of the study. Only 52% of the trials (n=60) reported treatment dose and only 34% (n=39) reported the duration. A lot of the trials included a small number of patients and the trials are still ongoing, therefore no insight was provided on the outcome of the trials.

      Significance: Nonetheless, this review serves as framework for identifying COVID-19 related trials, which can be expanded upon as new trials begin at an accelerated rate as the disease spreads around the world.

    1. On 2020-03-31 19:02:12, user earonesty wrote:

      It's an immunomodulator, it prevents some of the inflammation issues associated with COVID-19. Not a surprising result. There may be better ones, but since this is used to treat asthma, and other issues pulmonary inflammation, it's a good choice.

    2. On 2020-04-07 23:44:19, user Ronaldo Wieselberg wrote:

      I see a lot of problems with this study.

      First of all, it does not mention whether risk factors - such as hypertension or diabetes - were taken into account. The table provided for randomization doesn't show them either. Having a difference about risk factors could play a huge part in the difference - let's consider that control group had more people with pre-existing conditions, for instance, thus, the risk of evolving to a severe disease would be improved, independently of HCQ. Moreover, there is no mention of whether the four individuals who progressed to severe disease had any pre-existing conditions, needed mechanical ventilation or any other details of the "severity" - could it be a SpO2 of 92% only, accordingly to inclusion criteria.

      The paper does not describes clearly the evaluation criteria. How was measured the cough? Was it dicotomic (have cough/don't have any cough)? How could you determine whether the pneumonia "improved"? Was it accordingly to the presence/absence of infiltrates on X-Rays, or % of lungs compromised in CT-scan? Thus, calculating a significative p value for subjective criteria is really, really a difficult point.

      It does not states, as well, the symptoms duration prior to admission and start of the intervention. People who had, for instance, 10 days of symptoms before looking for a physician could have fewer days of symptoms than another individual who looked for medical assistance with two days of symptoms - and there is no mention about this.

    1. On 2020-03-31 22:59:25, user Whiskers wrote:

      Even more worrying if it is air spread, we have been led to believe that it is only really contact spread unless someone coughs directly over you.<br /> Perhaps this accounts for the prolific spread of this disease.

    1. On 2020-04-01 14:34:11, user Sinai Immunol Review Project wrote:

      Summary: ?Retrospective study on 97 COVID-19 hospitalized patients (25 severe and 72 non-severe) analyzing clinical and laboratory parameter to predict transition from mild to severe disease based on more accessible indicators (such as fasting blood glucose, serum protein or blood lipid) than inflammatory indicators. In accordance with other studies, age and hypertension were risk factors for disease severity, and lymphopenia and increased IL-6 was observed in severe patients. The authors show that fasting blood glucose (FBG) was altered and patients with severe disease were often hyperglycemic. Data presented support that hypoproteinaemia, hypoalbuminemia, and reduction in high-densitylipoprotein (HDL-C) and ApoA1 were associated with disease severity. ?

      Limitations: ?In this study non-severe patients were divided in two groups based on average course of the disease: mild group1 (14 days, n=28) and mild group 2 (30 days, n=44). However mild patients with a longer disease course did not show an intermediate phenotype (between mild patients with shorter disease course and severe patients), hence it is unclear whether this was a useful and how it impacted the analysis. Furthermore, the non-exclusion of co-morbidity factors in the analysis may bias the results (e.g. diabetic patients and glucose tests) It is not clear at what point in time the laboratory parameters are sampled. In table 3, it would have been interesting to explore a multivariate multiple regression. The correlation lacks of positive control to assess the specificity of the correlation to the disease vs. correlation in any inflammatory case. The dynamic study assessing the predictability of the laboratory parameter is limited to 2 patients. Hence there are several associations with disease severity, but larger studies are necessary to test the independent predictive value of these potential biomarkers.?

      Findings implications:? As hospital are getting overwhelmed a set of easily accessible laboratory indicators (such as serum total protein) would potentially provide a triage methodology between potentially severe cases and mild ones. This paper also opens the question regarding metabolic deregulation and COVID-19 severity.

    1. On 2020-04-03 05:01:21, user Jacob G Scott wrote:

      Please find our update, with HIGHER recommended exposure times for porous PPE, on our github repo: https://github.com/TheoryDi...

      We expect another update in the coming days with filtration/fit testing results at these exposures, as well as biologic validation.

      Please also see recent CDC guidelines: https://www.cdc.gov/coronav...

      and a cooperative groups recommendation for N95 decontamination: https://www.n95decon.org/

      Please stay safe and healthy.

    1. On 2020-04-04 19:53:38, user VirusWar wrote:

      It is interesting study, but I'm surprised you don't talk about level of Potassium in the blood ? Did you check it ? Was there any Magnesium given to correct level of Potassium. Especially, you noted heart troubles with people having renal disease, but it is well known they have excess of Potassium which creates such heart troubles. Also, was treatment H+A stopped when QTc >=500ms ?

    1. On 2020-04-07 19:27:46, user Archisman Mazumder wrote:

      Indian study showing COVID-19 affects the 20-39 yrs age group most in India. This really has to be studied further. Even the Health Ministry of India corroborated the findings.

    1. On 2020-04-12 05:17:40, user John Roberts wrote:

      Cytodyn’s drug Leronlimab is proving effective in treating the cytodyne storm and getting severe Covid patients off of ventilators.

    1. On 2020-04-12 08:33:12, user tsuyomiyakawa wrote:

      Thanks, everyone, for your precious comments.

      1. We are examining the potential confounders, which includes the ones mentioned here.

      2. As Rosemary mentioned, BCG is an attenuated version TB and, indeed, big protective effect of TB prevalence against COVID-19 exists. We will incorporate the data in the next version.

      3. We obtained the data from the web site of European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control, and are re-analyzing the growth of spreading in a more quantitive manner. Basically, there are significant effects of BCG/TB against COVID-19 growth, which will replace the data shown in Figure 3.

      4. Regarding the tourists from China, according to a survey, the top 10 destination countries of China’s out bound countries are Japan, Thailand, South Korea, Indonesia, Singapore, Malaysia, Australia, UK, New Zealand, and Maldives, and 9 out of 10 of them are the ones with extremely low COVID-19 cases and deaths (4 or lower deaths per million) , as of April 13th, which makes it unlikely that the Traveling activity from China matters. This will be added to the discussion. Also, we evaluated the number of international arrivals in each country and it did not essentially affect the results (almost at all).

      5. As for masks and green tea, they cannot explain 1) the differences between Eastern Europe and Western Europe and 2) low COVID-19 indices in Africa, South America and South East Asia. We may consider their potential effect, once we can get any good statistics representing those things, but so far, we set priority low for these potential confounders.


      Anyway, we will upload next version sometime in next week and it will be appreciated if you could keep providing us critical comments, which will greatly improve our manuscript. Thank you!

    1. On 2020-04-12 13:23:51, user Joe Gitchell wrote:

      Thank you to the authors for taking the time and effort to report these findings in the midst of confronting the challenges from managing the COVID19 pandemic. Please stay safe!

      And it is with humility that I make a request to them to do two things with their data on tobacco use. The first I think should be pretty straightforward, the second will depend on the specificity available within the Epic records:

      1) In Tables 1 and 2, can you please break out "Never" and "Unknown" in to separate categories; and

      2) In these tables and in other analyses, can you please break out "tobacco use" at least in to combustible (cigarettes, cigars, cigarillos, hookah, etc) and noncombustible (smokeless tobacco, snus, vaping) categories?

      Thank you. I also found your use of CART/decision-tree analysis really helpful, btw.

      Joe

      Disclosures:<br /> My employer, PinneyAssociates, provides consulting services on tobacco harm minimization on an exclusive basis to JUUL Labs, Inc., a manufacturer of nicotine vaping products. I also own an interest in an improved nicotine gum that has neither been developed nor commercialized.