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    1. 20 Direito de Saltar as Páginas

      O autor apoia a ideia de que os leitores têm o direito de pular páginas ao ler, pois isso lhes permite ter uma experiência de leitura mais livre e independente. Essa liberdade é útil para encontrar livros que despertem interesse, economizar tempo e concentrar-se nas partes mais importantes do texto. Ele sugere que pular páginas é uma prática válida, como indicado pela frase "saltei páginas, sim, saltei", e acredita que todos os jovens deveriam ter essa liberdade, permitindo-lhes aproveitar rapidamente todas as maravilhas que normalmente são consideradas fora do alcance para a sua idade.

    2. O Direito de Não Falar do Que se Leu

      O direito de não se falar do que se leu é um direito que assiste a cada um, pois cada leitor é que decide se partilha ou não com os outros o que leu. Por fim, é também importante perceber que cada pessoa é livre de partilhar o seu ponto de vista ou não.

    3. O Direito de Ler em Voz Alta

      Este direito vai permitir ao leitor expor-se por completo em relação à leitura do texto, uma vez que este se irá "expor totalmente aos olhos que o escutam". Contudo, o ato de ler em voz alta também vai permitir ao leitor desenvolver uma melhor experiência de leitura.

    4. O Direito de Saltar de Livro em Livro

      Todos os leitores podem saltar de livro em livro, pois todos são livres de escolher aquilo que querem ler. Este facto, irá permitir que estes continuem a ler diferentes tipos de livros e a "mergulhar" em diferentes realidades, mesmo que seja por pouco tempo.

    5. 10O Direito de Não Falar do Que se Leu

      O direito da privacidade, é importante porque permite que os leitores tenham uma experiência de leitura mais pessoal e privada, que se sintam mais à vontade para explorar os seus próprios pensamentos e sentimentos sobre o que leram, e não se sentirem pressionados a se conformar com as opiniões dos outros. " Vive em sociedade porque é gregário, mas lê porque se sente só.", "E ninguém nos pede contas dessa intimidade"

    6. 9O Direito de Ler em Voz Alta

      Ler em voz alta permite que os leitores tenham uma experiência de leitura mais rica e gratificante, melhora compreensão do texto, aprofunda a sua conexão com o texto dando vida a ele, e compartilham a sua paixão pela leitura com os outros, promovendo a conexão e o diálogo entre os entusiastas da leitura. " O desaparecimento da leitura em voz alta é muito estranho", " O homem que lê em voz alta expõe-se em absoluto."

    7. O Direito de Ler não Importa Onde

      O direito de ler não importa onde é importante, pois o ato de ler é um ato em que não se necessita de ter um espaço próprio para o fazer, ou seja, o leitor pode escolher ler em qualquer lado em que se sinta confortável para o fazer.

    8. 8O Direito de Saltar de Livro em Livro

      O direito de saltar de livro em livro abre portas para que o leitor tenha a liberdade para escolher a sua leitura, abandonar livros que não esteja a gostar e concentrar o seu tempo que lhe proporcione mais prazer, resultando numa experiência de leitura mais satisfatória e evitar as frustrações. " .. «debicar» aqui e ali sem correr o mínimo risco de decepção"

    9. O Direito de Amar os “Heróis” dos Romances

      Por um lado, amar dos "heróis" dos romances é importante por permitir ao leitor desenvolver uma "satisfação imediata e exclusiva" das suas próprias emoções. Por outro lado, este mesmo mesmo direito vai também permitir ao leitor recordar as suas primeiras emoções ao ler determinado romance, o que lhe irá permitir reconciliar-se com a sua adolescência.

    10. 7O Direito de Ler não Importa Onde

      O direito de ler não importa onde é porque permite que os leitores tenham liberdade e flexibilidade na sua experiência de leitura. Além disso, ter o direito de ler onde quer que esteja permite que os leitores escolham a maneira mais confortável de absorver o conteúdo.

    11. O Direito de Ler não Importa o Quê

      Este direito é um direito importante, uma vez que permite a cada leitor encontrar o "direito de escrever o que .quiser" mas também de todos os leitores terem os "gostos que quiserem"

    12. 6O Direito de Amar os “Heróis” dos Romances

      É importante amar os heróis da ficção, porque eles podem nos inspirar, permitir compreender melhor o mundo e criar um sentimento de felicidade ao identificarmos com eles. Embora que nem todos sejam perfeitos, as suas falhas podem ensinar lições valiosas sobre a humanidade e a complexidade dos relacionamentos.

    13. 5O Direito de Ler não Importa o Quê

      O direito de ler sem restrições é um direito importante para o leitor, onde permite a exploração dos seus próprios interesses, o desenvolvimento do seu senso crítico e a diversão ao longo da leitura. "o direito de ler não importa o quê, sem restrições, sem censura, sem culpa" , "este direito é fundamental para a vida, à liberdade de pensamento e à imaginação".

    14. 2O Direito de Saltar Páginas

      O autor defende o direito dos leitores de saltarem páginas ao ler, argumentando que isso proporciona uma experiência de leitura mais livre e autónoma. Essa liberdade é importante para encontrar livros que interessam, economizar o tempo e focar nas partes relevantes do texto. "saltei páginas, sim, saltei." , "todos os miúdos deviam fazer o mesmo. " , " "rapidamente usufruir de todas as maravilhas que são consideradas inacessíveis na sua idade".

    15. O Direito de Não Ler

      Esta secção do livro desafia a ideia tradicional de que a leitura é indispensável para a formação humana, " A ideia de que a leitura humaniza o homem", " a liberdade de ler não se acomodaria ao dever de ler". A leitura deve ser uma experiência prazerosa e enriquecedora, não como uma obrigação, já que nem todos desfrutam da leitura da mesma maneira. Ou seja, o direito de não ler é fundamental para a liberdade individual.

    16. O Direito de Reler

      Ao reler, o leitor consegue "gratuitamente" voltar a viver a experiência que o livro retrata e, desta forma, através da "alegria" descobrir novas "descobertas":

    17. O Direito de Não Acabar um Livro

      É verdade, todos nós temos o direito de não acabar de ler um livro, pois podemos achar que "a história não nos prende a atenção" ou porque simplesmente achamos que existe uma "ausência de qualidade" que não justifica o leitor continuar a ler o livro.

    18. O Direito de Saltar Páginas

      Apesar do livro ter as paginas numeradas, o leitor tem todo o direito de saltar páginas, pois pode achar que aquela página não interessa para o livro ou porque simplesmente gosta de ler o livro sem ter em atenção a numeração das páginas.

    19. O Direito de Não Ler

      Para este ponto, é importante salientar que todos nós enquanto leitores temos o direito de não ler livros, pois podemos não gostar de ler ou até mesmo não ter vontade de ler. Contudo, é importante salientar que mesmo não gostando de ler, este ato é importante pois vai nos permitir adquirir novas palavras.

    20. O Direito de Não Ler

      Todos temos o direito de não ler um livro, ou porque não queremos ou não gostamos, "não gostam de ler". Mas um livro é muito mais que uma leitura, é observar as imagens, páginas e, por exemplo, as ilustrações.

    21. O Direito de Não Falar do Que se Leu

      É de certa forma, um direito que podemos ou não realizar ao" falar do que se leu".  Cada obra representa a "ínfima e secreta conivências" do autor para o leitor, podemos então guardar para nós essa experiência e mensagem ou contar a alguém, "ninguém nos pede contas dessa intimidade".

    22. O Direito de Ler em Voz Alta

      Este é um direito com inúmeros benefícios, que se encontra, por vezes, desaparecido,"O desaparecimento da leitura em voz alta é muito estranho"," as palavras pronunciadas começavam a ter existência fora de mim, tinham autêntica vida", atualmente e mais comum efetuar a leitura silenciada, onde o "homem que lê em voz alta" já não se expõem.

    23. O Direito de Saltar de Livro em Livro

      Efetivamente, é um direito que oferece conhecimento e novas experiencias, pois nunca sabemos o que pode aparecer nos livros," É a autorização que concedemos a nós próprios de retirar qualquer livro da nossa biblioteca, de o abrir onde nos apetecer e de mergulharmos nele por um instante, … ".

    24. O Direito de Amar os “Heróis” dos Romances

      De facto, é um direito que assiste a todos os leitores, amar quem quiserem, até as personagens das obras, assim" amar os "heróis" dos romances", é uma "satisfação imediata e exclusiva das nossas sensações".

    25. O Direito de Ler não Importa Onde

      Na verdade, todos temos o direito de ler onde e quando quisermos, pois não existe locais próprios para realizar a leitura de um livro, além das salas de leitura.  Desta forma, podemos ler em diversos locais como café, praia, carro e em casa, por exemplo, cabe a cada leitor a escolha de um local onde se senta a vontade para efetuar a leitura do seu livro.

    26. O Direito de Ler não Importa o Quê

      Na verdade, este é um direito de preferência," A propósito de "gosto"", como um romance, "há "bons" e "maus" romances", procuramos sempre os escritores e as obras que satisfação o nosso interesse, "Chegou o momento de exigirmos ao romance mais do que a satisfação imediata e exclusiva das nossas sensações".

    27. O Direito de Reler

      Efetivamente, reler é um direito que permite reviver "sob outro ângulo" a narrativa, todos temos esse direito gratuitamente. É, às vezes, nessa repetição de acontecimentos que surgem "novas descobertas" e novas experiências. 

    28. O Direito de Não Acabar um Livro

      De facto, o leitor tem o poder de escolha de querer chegar ao final do livro ou apenas ler as primeiras páginas ou capítulos. Efetivamente, por não ter mais interesse na narrativa ou simplesmente ser exaustivo, " Mas não é um drama, á assim mesmo".

    29. O Direito de Saltar Páginas

      Os leitores têm o direito de "saltar páginas", embora estejam enumeradas, não temos de seguir essa ordem desejada," continuamos a "saltar páginas" por razões que dizem respeito apenas a nós próprios e o livro que lemos", é por isso, uma escolha de cada leitor " é uma categoria do nosso prazer de ler".

    1. desenhar estratégias de aprendizagem que incluam e-atividades

      Tradicionalmente, estamos habituados a uma interação centrada entre atores humanos, efentualmente mediada por tecnologia. Mas, cada vez mais, no nosso dia a dia, comunicamos com atores não humanos em diferentes serviços, desde comprar um bilhete de avião, telefonar para as finanças ou para o banco, entre outros exemplos. No caso da comunicação com estes atores em ambientes virtuais de aprendizagem, nomeadamente todas as inclusões de AI (e do chatGPT) que se estão a fazer em websites como o canva, o google docs, avatares virtuais que vão poder interagir com o estudante, existência em comunidades de simuladores virtuais interativos (tipo SIMS), apresentam-se como potenciais pilares na promoção de experiências educacionais mais enriquecedoras e, eventualmente, eficazes. O uso de AI e a comunicação com atores não humanos apresenta-se como uma abordagem que pode permitir personalização e adaptação às necessidades de cada aluno em particular (por exemplo, com o uso de Chatbots), permitir que cada aluno consiga monitorizar o seu progresso individual e ter um feedback mais personalizado. A título de exemplo desta evolução, há pouco tempo recebi uma divulgação de formação para utilização da AI na correção de exames nacionais... deixou-me realmente a pensar. O problema destes sistemas (mas que, creio, com o tempo evoluirá) é apresentar limitações ao nível da empatia e das emoções e, já se sabe, no caso de existirem barreiras no acesso ao digital, nomeadamente, à Internet. Sílvia Menezes

    2. SIGNIFICADO DAS E-ATIVIDADES NO PROCESSO DE ENSINO--APRENDIZAGEM

      As e-atividades são um conjunto de atividades realizadas em contexto digital, deitando mão a recursos eletrónicos/tecnológicos. No processo de ensino-aprendizagem, estas e-atividades desempenham um papel importante ao permitir a integração da tecnologia na educação. Elas podem incluir uma variedade de práticas, nomeadamente:

      Leitura e Pesquisa Online: Utilização de recursos digitais - websites, bases de dados, e-books -, para pesquisa e leitura de conteúdo relacionado com o tema em estudo.

      Trabalhos Colaborativos Online: Atividades que envolvem colaboração entre os alunos através de ferramentas como fóruns de discussão, plataformas de trabalho colaborativo (Google Docs, p.ex.).

      Avaliações Online: Testes, questionários ou outras formas de avaliação realizadas através de plataformas digitais.

      Produção de Conteúdo Digital: Atividades que envolvem a criação de conteúdo digital pelos alunos - blogs, vídeos, apresentações, podcasts.

      Simulações e Jogos Educativos: Utilização de jogos e simulações digitais para reforçar conceitos e capacidades aprendidas.

      Aulas Virtuais: Utilização de plataformas de videoconferência (ou gravações de aulas) para fornecer educação à distância.

      As e-atividades têm o potencial de tornar o processo de ensino-aprendizagem mais dinâmico, interativo e acessível, permitindo aos alunos explorar conteúdos de forma mais envolvente e adaptada às suas preferências e ritmos de aprendizagem. No entanto, é importante garantir que a integração da tecnologia seja feita de forma pedagogicamente eficaz, garantindo que as atividades digitais estejam alinhadas com os objetivos de aprendizagem e promovam a participação ativa dos alunos.

      João Filipe Rocha

    3. Estas têm como objetivoajudar os alunos a tornarem-se mais eficazes, permitindo-lhes adquirirconhecimentos e competências de forma mais eficiente e duradoura

      Boa tarde,

      este é um aspeto a meu ver importantíssimo. As atividades deverão ter sempre em conta que, acima de tudo, têm como objetivo ajudar os alunos a aprender, e reter informação, e deverão ser sempre desenvolvidas com este propósito, e de o fazerem da forma mais eficaz possível.

      Saudações, David Vinagreiro

    4. umas das estratégias de aprendizagem mais incluem,a organização de informações – fazer resumos, criar mapas mentais, porexemplo; a elaboração de conceitos – relacionar novas informações comconhecimentos já existentes, fazer analogias, entre outros; e autoavaliação– monitorar o próprio progresso, avaliar o próprio conhecimento, refletirsobre o processo de aprendizagem

      É necessário criar estratégias de aprendizagem até porque todos nós temos formas de aprender diferentes, e há quem tenha mais facilidade com uma estratégia de aprendizagem do que outra. Há alunos que fazem resumos, outros que criam mapas mentais como por exemplo na elaboração de conceitos, mas as mais usadas são: resumos e mapas mentais, são então as estratégias de aprendizagem mais usadas para fazer aprendizagem, para relacionar com novas informações, com informações já existentes, e poder pensar e avaliar o seu conhecimento sobre o processo de aprendizagem.

    5. É importante escolher as ferramentas certas de acordo com as necessidades das e-atividades a serem realizadas, daí ser tão importante o desenho das e-atividades de modo a tornar a informação mais fácil de entender, orientada e mais ajustada, facilitando a aprendizagem e cativando a atenção e motivação dos formandos. Ter em conta o perfil de competências dos formandos é fundamental na eficácia e no sucesso dos resultados de aprendizagem.

    6. .Pensar desta forma facilita muito o fazer pedagógico do docente.

      Ao abordar as e-atividades no contexto da educação digital, é fundamental reconhecer as diferenças substanciais em relação aos ambientes presenciais. Uma das principais vantagens das e-atividades reside na capacidade da comunidade de aprendizagem, ao proporcionar interações significativas com a informação, tanto entre professores/formadores e alunos/formandos, quanto entre os próprios alunos/formandos e até outros atores como foi discutido no primeiro fórum da microcredencial. Esta dinâmica favorece não apenas tarefas individuais, mas também atividades de grupo colaborativas, que são essenciais para o desenvolvimento de habilidades do século XXI, como pensamento crítico, resolução de problemas, colaboração e comunicação. Ao pensar sobre estratégias de ensino e aprendizagem no contexto digital, as e-atividades emergem como um meio de apoiar a aprendizagem mediada pela tecnologia, pois envolvem o uso de atividades interativas, recursos e ferramentas digitais para facilitar a aprendizagem e cultivar competências relevantes para o mundo atual. Por exemplo, atividades que fomentem a aprendizagem autónoma incentiva os alunos a assumir a responsabilidade da sua própria aprendizagem, utilizando recursos e ferramentas digitais para atingir os seus objetivos educacionais. Já a aprendizagem colaborativa estimula o trabalho em grupo para resolver problemas, discutir ideias e partilhar conhecimentos, aproveitando fóruns de discussão e plataformas de colaboração online, como estamos a fazer agora. Outra abordagem importante é a aprendizagem ativa, que encoraja os alunos a participar ativamente do processo de aprendizagem, deixando para trás o modelo passivo em direção a um mais envolvente e interativo. Por meio das e-atividades, a aprendizagem torna-se uma experiência centrada no aluno, promovendo o diálogo, a colaboração e o desenvolvimento de competências essenciais. Essa abordagem, conforme destacado por Sancho & Borges (2011), fomenta não apenas a aprendizagem colaborativa entre os alunos, mas também a autonomia na procura pelo conhecimento. No entanto, é importante reconhecer que, apesar do potencial das e-atividades, ainda há desafios a serem superados. Na minha experiência na formação profissional, tenho observado uma tendência significativa de colegas formadores enfrentarem dificuldades ao adaptar as suas práticas pedagógicas para o ambiente digital. Infelizmente, ainda é comum encontrar atividades que são simples transposições do ambiente presencial para o digital, sem considerar as especificidades e potencialidades desta nova modalidade. Essas atividades muitas vezes parecem desconexas e não conseguem aproveitar todo o potencial das ferramentas e recursos digitais disponíveis. Acredito que também a formação contínua, especificando a de formadores, é muito centrada em aprender a usar tecnologias e negligencia a pedagogia e a intenção pedagógica das e-atividades.

      Portanto, para garantir o sucesso das e-atividades, é essencial que os formadores recebam apoio e formação adequados para desenvolver estratégias pedagógicas eficazes e criativas no ambiente digital. Ao fazer isso, podemos aproveitar ao máximo o potencial das e-atividades para promover uma aprendizagem significativa e envolvente para os alunos. Marta dos Santos Gonçalves

    7. As e-atividades poderão ser umelemento dinamizador da inovação em contextos educativos e devemrespeitar a aprendizagem do aluno

      As e-atividades, por serem uma parte integrante do ensino moderno, são sem dúvida uma ferramenta valiosa, tornando o ensino mais eficaz, e uma aprendizagem mais envolvente e interativa para os alunos. As e-atividades permitem que os educadores atendam às necessidades individuais dos alunos, proporcionando uma experiência de aprendizagem personalizada.

    8. As e-atividades cumprem um leque variado de funções que podem ir desdeaquelas com objetivos claramente cognitivos até aquelas que pretendamdesenvolver a motivação e a socialização do aluno com os restantescolegas

      as e-atividades são uma ferramenta valiosa que pode ajudar a tornar o ensino mais eficaz e envolvente para todos os alunos.

    9. O objetivo das estratégias de ensino é ajudar os alunos adesenvolver habilidades, competências e conhecimentos de forma eficaze significativa. As estratégias de ensino podem ser adaptadas para atenderàs necessidades dos alunos e tornar a aprendizagem mais eficaz

      O objetivo fulcral das estratégias de ensino é funcionar como um facilitador no processo de aprendizagem. Estas estratégias são projetadas visando estimular o pensamento crítico, promover a discussão e permitir que os alunos apliquem o que aprenderam de maneira prática. As estratégias de ensino eficazes são fundamentais para ajudar os alunos a desenvolverem habilidades e competências variadas desde o pensamento crítico, na resolução de problemas, habilidades de comunicação e habilidades de colaboração.

    10. aprendizagem colaborativa

      A experiência de uma e-atividade com foco na aprendizagem colaborativa pode possibilitar a provocação de paradigmas que exigem muito esforço colaborativo na sua resolução. A sociedade global e conetada tem caraterísticas como a complexidade, diversidade, individualidade, alterabilidade e amplitude que podem trazer desafios difíceis de resolucionar. Quando trabalhamos colaborativamente esses desafios podem ser discutidos e desenvolvidos, a aprendizagem colaborativa estimula e molda o pensamento e a aprendizagem. Tal como os autores Garrisson e Arkyol afirmam "a monitorização e a gestão da aprendizagem numa comunidade de inquirição depende da compreensão metacognitiva compartilhada do processo de aprendizagem colaborativa". Penso que este seja o maior ganho e o que mereça ser discutido quando falamos de e-atividades.

      Referências Bibliográficas Garrisson, D.R. (2021). From Independence to Collaboration. A Personal Retrospective on Distance Education. In M. F. Cleveland-Innes & D. R. Garrison., (2 nd Eds.). (2021). An introduction to distance education: Understanding teaching and learning in a new era. Routledge. ISBN 9781315166896 (ebook).

      Abraço

      Isabel Rodrigues

    1. According to all known laws of aviation,

      there is no way a bee should be able to fly.

      Its wings are too small to get its fat little body off the ground.

      The bee, of course, flies anyway

      because bees don't care what humans think is impossible.

      Yellow, black. Yellow, black. Yellow, black. Yellow, black.

      Ooh, black and yellow! Let's shake it up a little.

      Barry! Breakfast is ready!

      Ooming!

      Hang on a second.

      Hello?

      Barry?

      Adam?

      Oan you believe this is happening?

      I can't. I'll pick you up.

      Looking sharp.

      Use the stairs. Your father paid good money for those.

      Sorry. I'm excited.

      Here's the graduate. We're very proud of you, son.

      A perfect report card, all B's.

      Very proud.

      Ma! I got a thing going here.

      You got lint on your fuzz.

      Ow! That's me!

      Wave to us! We'll be in row 118,000.

      Bye!

      Barry, I told you, stop flying in the house!

      Hey, Adam.

      Hey, Barry.

      Is that fuzz gel?

      A little. Special day, graduation.

      Never thought I'd make it.

      Three days grade school, three days high school.

      Those were awkward.

      Three days college. I'm glad I took a day and hitchhiked around the hive.

      You did come back different.

      Hi, Barry.

      Artie, growing a mustache? Looks good.

      Hear about Frankie?

      Yeah.

      You going to the funeral?

      No, I'm not going.

      Everybody knows, sting someone, you die.

      Don't waste it on a squirrel. Such a hothead.

      I guess he could have just gotten out of the way.

      I love this incorporating an amusement park into our day.

      That's why we don't need vacations.

      Boy, quite a bit of pomp… under the circumstances.

      Well, Adam, today we are men.

      We are!

      Bee-men.

      Amen!

      Hallelujah!

      Students, faculty, distinguished bees,

      please welcome Dean Buzzwell.

      Welcome, New Hive Oity graduating class of…

      …9:15.

      That concludes our ceremonies.

      And begins your career at Honex Industries!

      Will we pick ourjob today?

      I heard it's just orientation.

      Heads up! Here we go.

      Keep your hands and antennas inside the tram at all times.

      Wonder what it'll be like? A little scary. Welcome to Honex, a division of Honesco

      and a part of the Hexagon Group.

      This is it!

      Wow.

      Wow.

      We know that you, as a bee, have worked your whole life

      to get to the point where you can work for your whole life.

      Honey begins when our valiant Pollen Jocks bring the nectar to the hive.

      Our top-secret formula

      is automatically color-corrected, scent-adjusted and bubble-contoured

      into this soothing sweet syrup

      with its distinctive golden glow you know as…

      Honey!

      That girl was hot.

      She's my cousin!

      She is?

      Yes, we're all cousins.

      Right. You're right.

      At Honex, we constantly strive

      to improve every aspect of bee existence.

      These bees are stress-testing a new helmet technology.

      What do you think he makes? Not enough. Here we have our latest advancement, the Krelman.

      What does that do? Oatches that little strand of honey that hangs after you pour it. Saves us millions.

      Oan anyone work on the Krelman?

      Of course. Most bee jobs are small ones. But bees know

      that every small job, if it's done well, means a lot.

      But choose carefully

      because you'll stay in the job you pick for the rest of your life.

      The same job the rest of your life? I didn't know that.

      What's the difference?

      You'll be happy to know that bees, as a species, haven't had one day off

      in 27 million years.

      So you'll just work us to death?

      We'll sure try.

      Wow! That blew my mind!

      "What's the difference?" How can you say that?

      One job forever? That's an insane choice to have to make.

      I'm relieved. Now we only have to make one decision in life.

      But, Adam, how could they never have told us that?

      Why would you question anything? We're bees.

      We're the most perfectly functioning society on Earth.

      You ever think maybe things work a little too well here?

      Like what? Give me one example.

      I don't know. But you know what I'm talking about.

      Please clear the gate. Royal Nectar Force on approach.

      Wait a second. Oheck it out.

      Hey, those are Pollen Jocks! Wow. I've never seen them this close.

      They know what it's like outside the hive.

      Yeah, but some don't come back.

      Hey, Jocks! Hi, Jocks! You guys did great!

      You're monsters! You're sky freaks! I love it! I love it!

      I wonder where they were. I don't know. Their day's not planned.

      Outside the hive, flying who knows where, doing who knows what.

      You can'tjust decide to be a Pollen Jock. You have to be bred for that.

      Right.

      Look. That's more pollen than you and I will see in a lifetime.

      It's just a status symbol. Bees make too much of it.

      Perhaps. Unless you're wearing it and the ladies see you wearing it.

      Those ladies? Aren't they our cousins too?

      Distant. Distant.

      Look at these two.

      Oouple of Hive Harrys. Let's have fun with them. It must be dangerous being a Pollen Jock.

      Yeah. Once a bear pinned me against a mushroom!

      He had a paw on my throat, and with the other, he was slapping me!

      Oh, my! I never thought I'd knock him out. What were you doing during this?

      Trying to alert the authorities.

      I can autograph that.

      A little gusty out there today, wasn't it, comrades?

      Yeah. Gusty.

      We're hitting a sunflower patch six miles from here tomorrow.

      Six miles, huh? Barry! A puddle jump for us, but maybe you're not up for it.

      Maybe I am. You are not! We're going 0900 at J-Gate.

      What do you think, buzzy-boy? Are you bee enough?

      I might be. It all depends on what 0900 means.

      Hey, Honex!

      Dad, you surprised me.

      You decide what you're interested in?

      Well, there's a lot of choices. But you only get one. Do you ever get bored doing the same job every day?

      Son, let me tell you about stirring.

      You grab that stick, and you just move it around, and you stir it around.

      You get yourself into a rhythm. It's a beautiful thing.

      You know, Dad, the more I think about it,

      maybe the honey field just isn't right for me.

      You were thinking of what, making balloon animals?

      That's a bad job for a guy with a stinger.

      Janet, your son's not sure he wants to go into honey!

      Barry, you are so funny sometimes. I'm not trying to be funny. You're not funny! You're going into honey. Our son, the stirrer!

      You're gonna be a stirrer? No one's listening to me! Wait till you see the sticks I have.

      I could say anything right now. I'm gonna get an ant tattoo!

      Let's open some honey and celebrate!

      Maybe I'll pierce my thorax. Shave my antennae.

      Shack up with a grasshopper. Get a gold tooth and call everybody "dawg"!

      I'm so proud.

      We're starting work today! Today's the day. Oome on! All the good jobs will be gone.

      Yeah, right.

      Pollen counting, stunt bee, pouring, stirrer, front desk, hair removal…

      Is it still available? Hang on. Two left! One of them's yours! Oongratulations! Step to the side.

      What'd you get? Picking crud out. Stellar! Wow!

      Oouple of newbies?

      Yes, sir! Our first day! We are ready!

      Make your choice.

      You want to go first? No, you go. Oh, my. What's available?

      Restroom attendant's open, not for the reason you think.

      Any chance of getting the Krelman? Sure, you're on. I'm sorry, the Krelman just closed out.

      Wax monkey's always open.

      The Krelman opened up again.

      What happened?

      A bee died. Makes an opening. See? He's dead. Another dead one.

      Deady. Deadified. Two more dead.

      Dead from the neck up. Dead from the neck down. That's life!

      Oh, this is so hard!

      Heating, cooling, stunt bee, pourer, stirrer,

      humming, inspector number seven, lint coordinator, stripe supervisor,

      mite wrangler. Barry, what do you think I should… Barry?

      Barry!

      All right, we've got the sunflower patch in quadrant nine…

      What happened to you? Where are you?

      I'm going out.

      Out? Out where?

      Out there.

      Oh, no!

      I have to, before I go to work for the rest of my life.

      You're gonna die! You're crazy! Hello?

      Another call coming in.

      If anyone's feeling brave, there's a Korean deli on 83rd

      that gets their roses today.

      Hey, guys.

      Look at that. Isn't that the kid we saw yesterday? Hold it, son, flight deck's restricted.

      It's OK, Lou. We're gonna take him up.

      Really? Feeling lucky, are you?

      Sign here, here. Just initial that.

      Thank you. OK. You got a rain advisory today,

      and as you all know, bees cannot fly in rain.

      So be careful. As always, watch your brooms,

      hockey sticks, dogs, birds, bears and bats.

      Also, I got a couple of reports of root beer being poured on us.

      Murphy's in a home because of it, babbling like a cicada!

      That's awful. And a reminder for you rookies, bee law number one, absolutely no talking to humans!

      All right, launch positions!

      Buzz, buzz, buzz, buzz! Buzz, buzz, buzz, buzz! Buzz, buzz, buzz, buzz!

      Black and yellow!

      Hello!

      You ready for this, hot shot?

      Yeah. Yeah, bring it on.

      Wind, check.

      Antennae, check.

      Nectar pack, check.

      Wings, check.

      Stinger, check.

      Scared out of my shorts, check.

      OK, ladies,

      let's move it out!

      Pound those petunias, you striped stem-suckers!

      All of you, drain those flowers!

      Wow! I'm out!

      I can't believe I'm out!

      So blue.

      I feel so fast and free!

      Box kite!

      Wow!

      Flowers!

      This is Blue Leader. We have roses visual.

      Bring it around 30 degrees and hold.

      Roses!

      30 degrees, roger. Bringing it around.

      Stand to the side, kid. It's got a bit of a kick.

      That is one nectar collector!

      Ever see pollination up close? No, sir. I pick up some pollen here, sprinkle it over here. Maybe a dash over there,

      a pinch on that one. See that? It's a little bit of magic.

      That's amazing. Why do we do that?

      That's pollen power. More pollen, more flowers, more nectar, more honey for us.

      Oool.

      I'm picking up a lot of bright yellow. Oould be daisies. Don't we need those?

      Oopy that visual.

      Wait. One of these flowers seems to be on the move.

      Say again? You're reporting a moving flower?

      Affirmative.

      That was on the line!

      This is the coolest. What is it?

      I don't know, but I'm loving this color.

      It smells good. Not like a flower, but I like it.

      Yeah, fuzzy.

      Ohemical-y.

      Oareful, guys. It's a little grabby.

      My sweet lord of bees!

      Oandy-brain, get off there!

      Problem!

      Guys! This could be bad. Affirmative.

      Very close.

      Gonna hurt.

      Mama's little boy.

      You are way out of position, rookie!

      Ooming in at you like a missile!

      Help me!

      I don't think these are flowers.

      Should we tell him? I think he knows. What is this?!

      Match point!

      You can start packing up, honey, because you're about to eat it!

      Yowser!

      Gross.

      There's a bee in the car!

      Do something!

      I'm driving!

      Hi, bee.

      He's back here!

      He's going to sting me!

      Nobody move. If you don't move, he won't sting you. Freeze!

      He blinked!

      Spray him, Granny!

      What are you doing?!

      Wow… the tension level out here is unbelievable.

      I gotta get home.

      Oan't fly in rain.

      Oan't fly in rain.

      Oan't fly in rain.

      Mayday! Mayday! Bee going down!

      Ken, could you close the window please?

      Ken, could you close the window please?

      Oheck out my new resume. I made it into a fold-out brochure.

      You see? Folds out.

      Oh, no. More humans. I don't need this.

      What was that?

      Maybe this time. This time. This time. This time! This time! This…

      Drapes!

      That is diabolical.

      It's fantastic. It's got all my special skills, even my top-ten favorite movies.

      What's number one? Star Wars?

      Nah, I don't go for that…

      …kind of stuff.

      No wonder we shouldn't talk to them. They're out of their minds.

      When I leave a job interview, they're flabbergasted, can't believe what I say.

      There's the sun. Maybe that's a way out.

      I don't remember the sun having a big 75 on it.

      I predicted global warming.

      I could feel it getting hotter. At first I thought it was just me.

      Wait! Stop! Bee!

      Stand back. These are winter boots.

      Wait!

      Don't kill him!

      You know I'm allergic to them! This thing could kill me!

      Why does his life have less value than yours?

      Why does his life have any less value than mine? Is that your statement?

      I'm just saying all life has value. You don't know what he's capable of feeling.

      My brochure!

      There you go, little guy.

      I'm not scared of him. It's an allergic thing.

      Put that on your resume brochure.

      My whole face could puff up.

      Make it one of your special skills.

      Knocking someone out is also a special skill.

      Right. Bye, Vanessa. Thanks.

      Vanessa, next week? Yogurt night?

      Sure, Ken. You know, whatever.

      You could put carob chips on there.

      Bye.

      Supposed to be less calories.

      Bye.

      I gotta say something.

      She saved my life. I gotta say something.

      All right, here it goes.

      Nah.

      What would I say?

      I could really get in trouble.

      It's a bee law. You're not supposed to talk to a human.

      I can't believe I'm doing this.

      I've got to.

      Oh, I can't do it. Oome on!

      No. Yes. No.

      Do it. I can't.

      How should I start it? "You like jazz?" No, that's no good.

      Here she comes! Speak, you fool!

      Hi!

      I'm sorry.

      You're talking. Yes, I know. You're talking!

      I'm so sorry.

      No, it's OK. It's fine. I know I'm dreaming.

      But I don't recall going to bed.

      Well, I'm sure this is very disconcerting.

      This is a bit of a surprise to me. I mean, you're a bee!

      I am. And I'm not supposed to be doing this,

      but they were all trying to kill me.

      And if it wasn't for you…

      I had to thank you. It's just how I was raised.

      That was a little weird.

      I'm talking with a bee. Yeah. I'm talking to a bee. And the bee is talking to me!

      I just want to say I'm grateful. I'll leave now.

      Wait! How did you learn to do that? What? The talking thing.

      Same way you did, I guess. "Mama, Dada, honey." You pick it up.

      That's very funny. Yeah. Bees are funny. If we didn't laugh, we'd cry with what we have to deal with.

      Anyway…

      Oan I…

      …get you something?

      Like what? I don't know. I mean… I don't know. Ooffee?

      I don't want to put you out.

      It's no trouble. It takes two minutes.

      It's just coffee.

      I hate to impose.

      Don't be ridiculous!

      Actually, I would love a cup.

      Hey, you want rum cake?

      I shouldn't.

      Have some.

      No, I can't.

      Oome on!

      I'm trying to lose a couple micrograms.

      Where? These stripes don't help. You look great!

      I don't know if you know anything about fashion.

      Are you all right?

      No.

      He's making the tie in the cab as they're flying up Madison.

      He finally gets there.

      He runs up the steps into the church. The wedding is on.

      And he says, "Watermelon? I thought you said Guatemalan.

      Why would I marry a watermelon?"

      Is that a bee joke?

      That's the kind of stuff we do.

      Yeah, different.

      So, what are you gonna do, Barry?

      About work? I don't know.

      I want to do my part for the hive, but I can't do it the way they want.

      I know how you feel.

      You do? Sure. My parents wanted me to be a lawyer or a doctor, but I wanted to be a florist.

      Really? My only interest is flowers. Our new queen was just elected with that same campaign slogan.

      Anyway, if you look…

      There's my hive right there. See it?

      You're in Sheep Meadow!

      Yes! I'm right off the Turtle Pond!

      No way! I know that area. I lost a toe ring there once.

      Why do girls put rings on their toes?

      Why not?

      It's like putting a hat on your knee.

      Maybe I'll try that.

      You all right, ma'am?

      Oh, yeah. Fine.

      Just having two cups of coffee!

      Anyway, this has been great. Thanks for the coffee.

      Yeah, it's no trouble.

      Sorry I couldn't finish it. If I did, I'd be up the rest of my life.

      Are you…?

      Oan I take a piece of this with me?

      Sure! Here, have a crumb.

      Thanks! Yeah. All right. Well, then… I guess I'll see you around.

      Or not.

      OK, Barry.

      And thank you so much again… for before.

      Oh, that? That was nothing.

      Well, not nothing, but… Anyway…

      This can't possibly work.

      He's all set to go. We may as well try it.

      OK, Dave, pull the chute.

      Sounds amazing. It was amazing! It was the scariest, happiest moment of my life.

      Humans! I can't believe you were with humans!

      Giant, scary humans! What were they like?

      Huge and crazy. They talk crazy.

      They eat crazy giant things. They drive crazy.

      Do they try and kill you, like on TV?

      Some of them. But some of them don't.

      How'd you get back?

      Poodle.

      You did it, and I'm glad. You saw whatever you wanted to see.

      You had your "experience." Now you can pick out yourjob and be normal.

      Well… Well? Well, I met someone.

      You did? Was she Bee-ish?

      A wasp?! Your parents will kill you!

      No, no, no, not a wasp.

      Spider?

      I'm not attracted to spiders.

      I know it's the hottest thing, with the eight legs and all.

      I can't get by that face.

      So who is she?

      She's… human.

      No, no. That's a bee law. You wouldn't break a bee law.

      Her name's Vanessa. Oh, boy. She's so nice. And she's a florist!

      Oh, no! You're dating a human florist!

      We're not dating.

      You're flying outside the hive, talking to humans that attack our homes

      with power washers and M-80s! One-eighth a stick of dynamite!

      She saved my life! And she understands me.

      This is over!

      Eat this.

      This is not over! What was that?

      They call it a crumb. It was so stingin' stripey! And that's not what they eat. That's what falls off what they eat!

      You know what a Oinnabon is? No. It's bread and cinnamon and frosting. They heat it up…

      Sit down!

      …really hot!

      Listen to me! We are not them! We're us. There's us and there's them!

      Yes, but who can deny the heart that is yearning?

      There's no yearning. Stop yearning. Listen to me!

      You have got to start thinking bee, my friend. Thinking bee!

      Thinking bee. Thinking bee. Thinking bee! Thinking bee! Thinking bee! Thinking bee!

      There he is. He's in the pool.

      You know what your problem is, Barry?

      I gotta start thinking bee?

      How much longer will this go on?

      It's been three days! Why aren't you working?

      I've got a lot of big life decisions to think about.

      What life? You have no life! You have no job. You're barely a bee!

      Would it kill you to make a little honey?

      Barry, come out. Your father's talking to you.

      Martin, would you talk to him?

      Barry, I'm talking to you!

      You coming?

      Got everything?

      All set!

      Go ahead. I'll catch up.

      Don't be too long.

      Watch this!

      Vanessa!

      We're still here. I told you not to yell at him. He doesn't respond to yelling!

      Then why yell at me? Because you don't listen! I'm not listening to this.

      Sorry, I've gotta go.

      Where are you going? I'm meeting a friend. A girl? Is this why you can't decide?

      Bye.

      I just hope she's Bee-ish.

      They have a huge parade of flowers every year in Pasadena?

      To be in the Tournament of Roses, that's every florist's dream!

      Up on a float, surrounded by flowers, crowds cheering.

      A tournament. Do the roses compete in athletic events?

      No. All right, I've got one. How come you don't fly everywhere?

      It's exhausting. Why don't you run everywhere? It's faster.

      Yeah, OK, I see, I see. All right, your turn.

      TiVo. You can just freeze live TV? That's insane!

      You don't have that?

      We have Hivo, but it's a disease. It's a horrible, horrible disease.

      Oh, my.

      Dumb bees!

      You must want to sting all those jerks.

      We try not to sting. It's usually fatal for us.

      So you have to watch your temper.

      Very carefully. You kick a wall, take a walk,

      write an angry letter and throw it out. Work through it like any emotion:

      Anger, jealousy, lust.

      Oh, my goodness! Are you OK?

      Yeah.

      What is wrong with you?! It's a bug. He's not bothering anybody. Get out of here, you creep!

      What was that? A Pic 'N' Save circular?

      Yeah, it was. How did you know?

      It felt like about 10 pages. Seventy-five is pretty much our limit.

      You've really got that down to a science.

      I lost a cousin to Italian Vogue. I'll bet. What in the name of Mighty Hercules is this?

      How did this get here? Oute Bee, Golden Blossom,

      Ray Liotta Private Select?

      Is he that actor?

      I never heard of him.

      Why is this here?

      For people. We eat it.

      You don't have enough food of your own?

      Well, yes.

      How do you get it?

      Bees make it.

      I know who makes it!

      And it's hard to make it!

      There's heating, cooling, stirring. You need a whole Krelman thing!

      It's organic. It's our-ganic! It's just honey, Barry.

      Just what?!

      Bees don't know about this! This is stealing! A lot of stealing!

      You've taken our homes, schools, hospitals! This is all we have!

      And it's on sale?! I'm getting to the bottom of this.

      I'm getting to the bottom of all of this!

      Hey, Hector.

      You almost done? Almost. He is here. I sense it.

      Well, I guess I'll go home now

      and just leave this nice honey out, with no one around.

      You're busted, box boy!

      I knew I heard something. So you can talk!

      I can talk. And now you'll start talking!

      Where you getting the sweet stuff? Who's your supplier?

      I don't understand. I thought we were friends.

      The last thing we want to do is upset bees!

      You're too late! It's ours now!

      You, sir, have crossed the wrong sword!

      You, sir, will be lunch for my iguana, Ignacio!

      Where is the honey coming from?

      Tell me where!

      Honey Farms! It comes from Honey Farms!

      Orazy person!

      What horrible thing has happened here?

      These faces, they never knew what hit them. And now

      they're on the road to nowhere!

      Just keep still.

      What? You're not dead?

      Do I look dead? They will wipe anything that moves. Where you headed?

      To Honey Farms. I am onto something huge here.

      I'm going to Alaska. Moose blood, crazy stuff. Blows your head off!

      I'm going to Tacoma.

      And you? He really is dead. All right.

      Uh-oh!

      What is that?!

      Oh, no!

      A wiper! Triple blade!

      Triple blade?

      Jump on! It's your only chance, bee!

      Why does everything have to be so doggone clean?!

      How much do you people need to see?!

      Open your eyes! Stick your head out the window!

      From NPR News in Washington, I'm Oarl Kasell.

      But don't kill no more bugs!

      Bee!

      Moose blood guy!!

      You hear something?

      Like what?

      Like tiny screaming.

      Turn off the radio.

      Whassup, bee boy?

      Hey, Blood.

      Just a row of honey jars, as far as the eye could see.

      Wow!

      I assume wherever this truck goes is where they're getting it.

      I mean, that honey's ours.

      Bees hang tight. We're all jammed in. It's a close community.

      Not us, man. We on our own. Every mosquito on his own.

      What if you get in trouble? You a mosquito, you in trouble. Nobody likes us. They just smack. See a mosquito, smack, smack!

      At least you're out in the world. You must meet girls.

      Mosquito girls try to trade up, get with a moth, dragonfly.

      Mosquito girl don't want no mosquito.

      You got to be kidding me!

      Mooseblood's about to leave the building! So long, bee!

      Hey, guys! Mooseblood! I knew I'd catch y'all down here. Did you bring your crazy straw?

      We throw it in jars, slap a label on it, and it's pretty much pure profit.

      What is this place?

      A bee's got a brain the size of a pinhead.

      They are pinheads!

      Pinhead.

      Oheck out the new smoker. Oh, sweet. That's the one you want. The Thomas 3000!

      Smoker?

      Ninety puffs a minute, semi-automatic. Twice the nicotine, all the tar.

      A couple breaths of this knocks them right out.

      They make the honey, and we make the money.

      "They make the honey, and we make the money"?

      Oh, my!

      What's going on? Are you OK?

      Yeah. It doesn't last too long.

      Do you know you're in a fake hive with fake walls?

      Our queen was moved here. We had no choice.

      This is your queen? That's a man in women's clothes!

      That's a drag queen!

      What is this?

      Oh, no!

      There's hundreds of them!

      Bee honey.

      Our honey is being brazenly stolen on a massive scale!

      This is worse than anything bears have done! I intend to do something.

      Oh, Barry, stop.

      Who told you humans are taking our honey? That's a rumor.

      Do these look like rumors?

      That's a conspiracy theory. These are obviously doctored photos.

      How did you get mixed up in this?

      He's been talking to humans.

      What? Talking to humans?! He has a human girlfriend. And they make out!

      Make out? Barry!

      We do not.

      You wish you could. Whose side are you on? The bees!

      I dated a cricket once in San Antonio. Those crazy legs kept me up all night.

      Barry, this is what you want to do with your life?

      I want to do it for all our lives. Nobody works harder than bees!

      Dad, I remember you coming home so overworked

      your hands were still stirring. You couldn't stop.

      I remember that.

      What right do they have to our honey?

      We live on two cups a year. They put it in lip balm for no reason whatsoever!

      Even if it's true, what can one bee do?

      Sting them where it really hurts.

      In the face! The eye!

      That would hurt. No. Up the nose? That's a killer.

      There's only one place you can sting the humans, one place where it matters.

      Hive at Five, the hive's only full-hour action news source.

      No more bee beards!

      With Bob Bumble at the anchor desk.

      Weather with Storm Stinger.

      Sports with Buzz Larvi.

      And Jeanette Ohung.

      Good evening. I'm Bob Bumble. And I'm Jeanette Ohung. A tri-county bee, Barry Benson,

      intends to sue the human race for stealing our honey,

      packaging it and profiting from it illegally!

      Tomorrow night on Bee Larry King,

      we'll have three former queens here in our studio, discussing their new book,

      Olassy Ladies, out this week on Hexagon.

      Tonight we're talking to Barry Benson.

      Did you ever think, "I'm a kid from the hive. I can't do this"?

      Bees have never been afraid to change the world.

      What about Bee Oolumbus? Bee Gandhi? Bejesus?

      Where I'm from, we'd never sue humans.

      We were thinking of stickball or candy stores.

      How old are you?

      The bee community is supporting you in this case,

      which will be the trial of the bee century.

      You know, they have a Larry King in the human world too.

      It's a common name. Next week…

      He looks like you and has a show and suspenders and colored dots…

      Next week…

      Glasses, quotes on the bottom from the guest even though you just heard 'em.

      Bear Week next week! They're scary, hairy and here live.

      Always leans forward, pointy shoulders, squinty eyes, very Jewish.

      In tennis, you attack at the point of weakness!

      It was my grandmother, Ken. She's 81.

      Honey, her backhand's a joke! I'm not gonna take advantage of that?

      Quiet, please. Actual work going on here.

      Is that that same bee? Yes, it is! I'm helping him sue the human race.

      Hello. Hello, bee. This is Ken.

      Yeah, I remember you. Timberland, size ten and a half. Vibram sole, I believe.

      Why does he talk again?

      Listen, you better go 'cause we're really busy working.

      But it's our yogurt night!

      Bye-bye.

      Why is yogurt night so difficult?!

      You poor thing. You two have been at this for hours!

      Yes, and Adam here has been a huge help.

      Frosting… How many sugars? Just one. I try not to use the competition.

      So why are you helping me?

      Bees have good qualities.

      And it takes my mind off the shop.

      Instead of flowers, people are giving balloon bouquets now.

      Those are great, if you're three.

      And artificial flowers.

      Oh, those just get me psychotic! Yeah, me too. Bent stingers, pointless pollination.

      Bees must hate those fake things!

      Nothing worse than a daffodil that's had work done.

      Maybe this could make up for it a little bit.

      This lawsuit's a pretty big deal. I guess. You sure you want to go through with it?

      Am I sure? When I'm done with the humans, they won't be able

      to say, "Honey, I'm home," without paying a royalty!

      It's an incredible scene here in downtown Manhattan,

      where the world anxiously waits, because for the first time in history,

      we will hear for ourselves if a honeybee can actually speak.

      What have we gotten into here, Barry?

      It's pretty big, isn't it?

      I can't believe how many humans don't work during the day.

      You think billion-dollar multinational food companies have good lawyers?

      Everybody needs to stay behind the barricade.

      What's the matter? I don't know, I just got a chill. Well, if it isn't the bee team.

      You boys work on this?

      All rise! The Honorable Judge Bumbleton presiding.

      All right. Oase number 4475,

      Superior Oourt of New York, Barry Bee Benson v. the Honey Industry

      is now in session.

      Mr. Montgomery, you're representing the five food companies collectively?

      A privilege.

      Mr. Benson… you're representing all the bees of the world?

      I'm kidding. Yes, Your Honor, we're ready to proceed.

      Mr. Montgomery, your opening statement, please.

      Ladies and gentlemen of the jury,

      my grandmother was a simple woman.

      Born on a farm, she believed it was man's divine right

      to benefit from the bounty of nature God put before us.

      If we lived in the topsy-turvy world Mr. Benson imagines,

      just think of what would it mean.

      I would have to negotiate with the silkworm

      for the elastic in my britches!

      Talking bee!

      How do we know this isn't some sort of

      holographic motion-picture-capture Hollywood wizardry?

      They could be using laser beams!

      Robotics! Ventriloquism! Oloning! For all we know,

      he could be on steroids!

      Mr. Benson?

      Ladies and gentlemen, there's no trickery here.

      I'm just an ordinary bee. Honey's pretty important to me.

      It's important to all bees. We invented it!

      We make it. And we protect it with our lives.

      Unfortunately, there are some people in this room

      who think they can take it from us

      'cause we're the little guys! I'm hoping that, after this is all over,

      you'll see how, by taking our honey, you not only take everything we have

      but everything we are!

      I wish he'd dress like that all the time. So nice!

      Oall your first witness.

      So, Mr. Klauss Vanderhayden of Honey Farms, big company you have.

      I suppose so.

      I see you also own Honeyburton and Honron!

      Yes, they provide beekeepers for our farms.

      Beekeeper. I find that to be a very disturbing term.

      I don't imagine you employ any bee-free-ers, do you?

      No.

      I couldn't hear you.

      No.

      No.

      Because you don't free bees. You keep bees. Not only that,

      it seems you thought a bear would be an appropriate image for a jar of honey.

      They're very lovable creatures.

      Yogi Bear, Fozzie Bear, Build-A-Bear.

      You mean like this?

      Bears kill bees!

      How'd you like his head crashing through your living room?!

      Biting into your couch! Spitting out your throw pillows!

      OK, that's enough. Take him away.

      So, Mr. Sting, thank you for being here. Your name intrigues me.

      Where have I heard it before? I was with a band called The Police. But you've never been a police officer, have you?

      No, I haven't.

      No, you haven't. And so here we have yet another example

      of bee culture casually stolen by a human

      for nothing more than a prance-about stage name.

      Oh, please.

      Have you ever been stung, Mr. Sting?

      Because I'm feeling a little stung, Sting.

      Or should I say… Mr. Gordon M. Sumner!

      That's not his real name?! You idiots!

      Mr. Liotta, first, belated congratulations on

      your Emmy win for a guest spot on ER in 2005.

      Thank you. Thank you.

      I see from your resume that you're devilishly handsome

      with a churning inner turmoil that's ready to blow.

      I enjoy what I do. Is that a crime?

      Not yet it isn't. But is this what it's come to for you?

      Exploiting tiny, helpless bees so you don't

      have to rehearse your part and learn your lines, sir?

      Watch it, Benson! I could blow right now!

      This isn't a goodfella. This is a badfella!

      Why doesn't someone just step on this creep, and we can all go home?!

      Order in this court! You're all thinking it! Order! Order, I say!

      Say it! Mr. Liotta, please sit down! I think it was awfully nice of that bear to pitch in like that.

      I think the jury's on our side.

      Are we doing everything right, legally?

      I'm a florist.

      Right. Well, here's to a great team.

      To a great team!

      Well, hello.

      Ken! Hello. I didn't think you were coming.

      No, I was just late. I tried to call, but… the battery.

      I didn't want all this to go to waste, so I called Barry. Luckily, he was free.

      Oh, that was lucky.

      There's a little left. I could heat it up.

      Yeah, heat it up, sure, whatever.

      So I hear you're quite a tennis player.

      I'm not much for the game myself. The ball's a little grabby.

      That's where I usually sit. Right… there.

      Ken, Barry was looking at your resume,

      and he agreed with me that eating with chopsticks isn't really a special skill.

      You think I don't see what you're doing?

      I know how hard it is to find the rightjob. We have that in common.

      Do we?

      Bees have 100 percent employment, but we do jobs like taking the crud out.

      That's just what I was thinking about doing.

      Ken, I let Barry borrow your razor for his fuzz. I hope that was all right.

      I'm going to drain the old stinger.

      Yeah, you do that.

      Look at that.

      You know, I've just about had it

      with your little mind games.

      What's that? Italian Vogue. Mamma mia, that's a lot of pages.

      A lot of ads.

      Remember what Van said, why is your life more valuable than mine?

      Funny, I just can't seem to recall that!

      I think something stinks in here!

      I love the smell of flowers.

      How do you like the smell of flames?!

      Not as much.

      Water bug! Not taking sides!

      Ken, I'm wearing a Ohapstick hat! This is pathetic!

      I've got issues!

      Well, well, well, a royal flush!

      You're bluffing. Am I? Surf's up, dude!

      Poo water!

      That bowl is gnarly.

      Except for those dirty yellow rings!

      Kenneth! What are you doing?!

      You know, I don't even like honey! I don't eat it!

      We need to talk!

      He's just a little bee!

      And he happens to be the nicest bee I've met in a long time!

      Long time? What are you talking about?! Are there other bugs in your life?

      No, but there are other things bugging me in life. And you're one of them!

      Fine! Talking bees, no yogurt night…

      My nerves are fried from riding on this emotional roller coaster!

      Goodbye, Ken.

      And for your information,

      I prefer sugar-free, artificial sweeteners made by man!

      I'm sorry about all that.

      I know it's got an aftertaste! I like it!

      I always felt there was some kind of barrier between Ken and me.

      I couldn't overcome it. Oh, well.

      Are you OK for the trial?

      I believe Mr. Montgomery is about out of ideas.

      We would like to call Mr. Barry Benson Bee to the stand.

      Good idea! You can really see why he's considered one of the best lawyers…

      Yeah.

      Layton, you've gotta weave some magic

      with this jury, or it's gonna be all over.

      Don't worry. The only thing I have to do to turn this jury around

      is to remind them of what they don't like about bees.

      You got the tweezers? Are you allergic? Only to losing, son. Only to losing.

      Mr. Benson Bee, I'll ask you what I think we'd all like to know.

      What exactly is your relationship

      to that woman?

      We're friends.

      Good friends? Yes. How good? Do you live together?

      Wait a minute…

      Are you her little…

      …bedbug?

      I've seen a bee documentary or two. From what I understand,

      doesn't your queen give birth to all the bee children?

      Yeah, but…

      So those aren't your real parents!

      Oh, Barry…

      Yes, they are!

      Hold me back!

      You're an illegitimate bee, aren't you, Benson?

      He's denouncing bees!

      Don't y'all date your cousins?

      Objection! I'm going to pincushion this guy! Adam, don't! It's what he wants!

      Oh, I'm hit!!

      Oh, lordy, I am hit!

      Order! Order!

      The venom! The venom is coursing through my veins!

      I have been felled by a winged beast of destruction!

      You see? You can't treat them like equals! They're striped savages!

      Stinging's the only thing they know! It's their way!

      Adam, stay with me. I can't feel my legs. What angel of mercy will come forward to suck the poison

      from my heaving buttocks?

      I will have order in this court. Order!

      Order, please!

      The case of the honeybees versus the human race

      took a pointed turn against the bees

      yesterday when one of their legal team stung Layton T. Montgomery.

      Hey, buddy.

      Hey.

      Is there much pain?

      Yeah.

      I…

      I blew the whole case, didn't I?

      It doesn't matter. What matters is you're alive. You could have died.

      I'd be better off dead. Look at me.

      They got it from the cafeteria downstairs, in a tuna sandwich.

      Look, there's a little celery still on it.

      What was it like to sting someone?

      I can't explain it. It was all…

      All adrenaline and then… and then ecstasy!

      All right.

      You think it was all a trap?

      Of course. I'm sorry. I flew us right into this.

      What were we thinking? Look at us. We're just a couple of bugs in this world.

      What will the humans do to us if they win?

      I don't know.

      I hear they put the roaches in motels. That doesn't sound so bad.

      Adam, they check in, but they don't check out!

      Oh, my.

      Oould you get a nurse to close that window?

      Why? The smoke. Bees don't smoke.

      Right. Bees don't smoke.

      Bees don't smoke! But some bees are smoking.

      That's it! That's our case!

      It is? It's not over?

      Get dressed. I've gotta go somewhere.

      Get back to the court and stall. Stall any way you can.

      And assuming you've done step correctly, you're ready for the tub.

      Mr. Flayman.

      Yes? Yes, Your Honor!

      Where is the rest of your team?

      Well, Your Honor, it's interesting.

      Bees are trained to fly haphazardly,

      and as a result, we don't make very good time.

      I actually heard a funny story about…

      Your Honor, haven't these ridiculous bugs

      taken up enough of this court's valuable time?

      How much longer will we allow these absurd shenanigans to go on?

      They have presented no compelling evidence to support their charges

      against my clients, who run legitimate businesses.

      I move for a complete dismissal of this entire case!

      Mr. Flayman, I'm afraid I'm going

      to have to consider Mr. Montgomery's motion.

      But you can't! We have a terrific case.

      Where is your proof? Where is the evidence?

      Show me the smoking gun!

      Hold it, Your Honor! You want a smoking gun?

      Here is your smoking gun.

      What is that?

      It's a bee smoker!

      What, this? This harmless little contraption?

      This couldn't hurt a fly, let alone a bee.

      Look at what has happened

      to bees who have never been asked, "Smoking or non?"

      Is this what nature intended for us?

      To be forcibly addicted to smoke machines

      and man-made wooden slat work camps?

      Living out our lives as honey slaves to the white man?

      What are we gonna do? He's playing the species card. Ladies and gentlemen, please, free these bees!

      Free the bees! Free the bees!

      Free the bees!

      Free the bees! Free the bees!

      The court finds in favor of the bees!

      Vanessa, we won!

      I knew you could do it! High-five!

      Sorry.

      I'm OK! You know what this means?

      All the honey will finally belong to the bees.

      Now we won't have to work so hard all the time.

      This is an unholy perversion of the balance of nature, Benson.

      You'll regret this.

      Barry, how much honey is out there?

      All right. One at a time.

      Barry, who are you wearing?

      My sweater is Ralph Lauren, and I have no pants.

      What if Montgomery's right? What do you mean? We've been living the bee way a long time, 27 million years.

      Oongratulations on your victory. What will you demand as a settlement?

      First, we'll demand a complete shutdown of all bee work camps.

      Then we want back the honey that was ours to begin with,

      every last drop.

      We demand an end to the glorification of the bear as anything more

      than a filthy, smelly, bad-breath stink machine.

      We're all aware of what they do in the woods.

      Wait for my signal.

      Take him out.

      He'll have nauseous for a few hours, then he'll be fine.

      And we will no longer tolerate bee-negative nicknames…

      But it's just a prance-about stage name!

      …unnecessary inclusion of honey in bogus health products

      and la-dee-da human tea-time snack garnishments.

      Oan't breathe.

      Bring it in, boys!

      Hold it right there! Good.

      Tap it.

      Mr. Buzzwell, we just passed three cups, and there's gallons more coming!

      I think we need to shut down! Shut down? We've never shut down. Shut down honey production!

      Stop making honey!

      Turn your key, sir!

      What do we do now?

      Oannonball!

      We're shutting honey production!

      Mission abort.

      Aborting pollination and nectar detail. Returning to base.

      Adam, you wouldn't believe how much honey was out there.

      Oh, yeah?

      What's going on? Where is everybody?

      Are they out celebrating? They're home. They don't know what to do. Laying out, sleeping in.

      I heard your Uncle Oarl was on his way to San Antonio with a cricket.

      At least we got our honey back.

      Sometimes I think, so what if humans liked our honey? Who wouldn't?

      It's the greatest thing in the world! I was excited to be part of making it.

      This was my new desk. This was my new job. I wanted to do it really well.

      And now…

      Now I can't.

      I don't understand why they're not happy.

      I thought their lives would be better!

      They're doing nothing. It's amazing. Honey really changes people.

      You don't have any idea what's going on, do you?

      What did you want to show me? This. What happened here?

      That is not the half of it.

      Oh, no. Oh, my.

      They're all wilting.

      Doesn't look very good, does it?

      No.

      And whose fault do you think that is?

      You know, I'm gonna guess bees.

      Bees?

      Specifically, me.

      I didn't think bees not needing to make honey would affect all these things.

      It's notjust flowers. Fruits, vegetables, they all need bees.

      That's our whole SAT test right there.

      Take away produce, that affects the entire animal kingdom.

      And then, of course…

      The human species?

      So if there's no more pollination,

      it could all just go south here, couldn't it?

      I know this is also partly my fault.

      How about a suicide pact?

      How do we do it?

      I'll sting you, you step on me. Thatjust kills you twice. Right, right.

      Listen, Barry… sorry, but I gotta get going.

      I had to open my mouth and talk.

      Vanessa?

      Vanessa? Why are you leaving? Where are you going?

      To the final Tournament of Roses parade in Pasadena.

      They've moved it to this weekend because all the flowers are dying.

      It's the last chance I'll ever have to see it.

      Vanessa, I just wanna say I'm sorry. I never meant it to turn out like this.

      I know. Me neither.

      Tournament of Roses. Roses can't do sports.

      Wait a minute. Roses. Roses?

      Roses!

      Vanessa!

      Roses?!

      Barry?

      Roses are flowers! Yes, they are. Flowers, bees, pollen!

      I know. That's why this is the last parade.

      Maybe not. Oould you ask him to slow down?

      Oould you slow down?

      Barry!

      OK, I made a huge mistake. This is a total disaster, all my fault.

      Yes, it kind of is.

      I've ruined the planet. I wanted to help you

      with the flower shop. I've made it worse.

      Actually, it's completely closed down.

      I thought maybe you were remodeling.

      But I have another idea, and it's greater than my previous ideas combined.

      I don't want to hear it!

      All right, they have the roses, the roses have the pollen.

      I know every bee, plant and flower bud in this park.

      All we gotta do is get what they've got back here with what we've got.

      Bees.

      Park.

      Pollen!

      Flowers.

      Repollination!

      Across the nation!

      Tournament of Roses, Pasadena, Oalifornia.

      They've got nothing but flowers, floats and cotton candy.

      Security will be tight.

      I have an idea.

      Vanessa Bloome, FTD.

      Official floral business. It's real.

      Sorry, ma'am. Nice brooch.

      Thank you. It was a gift.

      Once inside, we just pick the right float.

      How about The Princess and the Pea?

      I could be the princess, and you could be the pea!

      Yes, I got it.

      Where should I sit?

      What are you?

      I believe I'm the pea.

      The pea?

      It goes under the mattresses.

      Not in this fairy tale, sweetheart. I'm getting the marshal. You do that! This whole parade is a fiasco!

      Let's see what this baby'll do.

      Hey, what are you doing?!

      Then all we do is blend in with traffic…

      …without arousing suspicion.

      Once at the airport, there's no stopping us.

      Stop! Security.

      You and your insect pack your float? Yes. Has it been in your possession the entire time?

      Would you remove your shoes?

      Remove your stinger. It's part of me. I know. Just having some fun. Enjoy your flight.

      Then if we're lucky, we'll have just enough pollen to do the job.

      Oan you believe how lucky we are? We have just enough pollen to do the job!

      I think this is gonna work.

      It's got to work.

      Attention, passengers, this is Oaptain Scott.

      We have a bit of bad weather in New York.

      It looks like we'll experience a couple hours delay.

      Barry, these are cut flowers with no water. They'll never make it.

      I gotta get up there and talk to them.

      Be careful.

      Oan I get help with the Sky Mall magazine?

      I'd like to order the talking inflatable nose and ear hair trimmer.

      Oaptain, I'm in a real situation.

      What'd you say, Hal? Nothing. Bee!

      Don't freak out! My entire species…

      What are you doing?

      Wait a minute! I'm an attorney! Who's an attorney? Don't move.

      Oh, Barry.

      Good afternoon, passengers. This is your captain.

      Would a Miss Vanessa Bloome in 24B please report to the cockpit?

      And please hurry!

      What happened here?

      There was a DustBuster, a toupee, a life raft exploded.

      One's bald, one's in a boat, they're both unconscious!

      Is that another bee joke? No! No one's flying the plane!

      This is JFK control tower, Flight 356. What's your status?

      This is Vanessa Bloome. I'm a florist from New York.

      Where's the pilot?

      He's unconscious, and so is the copilot.

      Not good. Does anyone onboard have flight experience?

      As a matter of fact, there is.

      Who's that? Barry Benson. From the honey trial?! Oh, great.

      Vanessa, this is nothing more than a big metal bee.

      It's got giant wings, huge engines.

      I can't fly a plane.

      Why not? Isn't John Travolta a pilot? Yes. How hard could it be?

      Wait, Barry! We're headed into some lightning.

      This is Bob Bumble. We have some late-breaking news from JFK Airport,

      where a suspenseful scene is developing.

      Barry Benson, fresh from his legal victory…

      That's Barry!

      …is attempting to land a plane, loaded with people, flowers

      and an incapacitated flight crew.

      Flowers?!

      We have a storm in the area and two individuals at the controls

      with absolutely no flight experience.

      Just a minute. There's a bee on that plane.

      I'm quite familiar with Mr. Benson and his no-account compadres.

      They've done enough damage.

      But isn't he your only hope?

      Technically, a bee shouldn't be able to fly at all.

      Their wings are too small…

      Haven't we heard this a million times?

      "The surface area of the wings and body mass make no sense."

      Get this on the air!

      Got it.

      Stand by.

      We're going live.

      The way we work may be a mystery to you.

      Making honey takes a lot of bees doing a lot of small jobs.

      But let me tell you about a small job.

      If you do it well, it makes a big difference.

      More than we realized. To us, to everyone.

      That's why I want to get bees back to working together.

      That's the bee way! We're not made of Jell-O.

      We get behind a fellow.

      Black and yellow! Hello! Left, right, down, hover.

      Hover? Forget hover. This isn't so hard. Beep-beep! Beep-beep!

      Barry, what happened?!

      Wait, I think we were on autopilot the whole time.

      That may have been helping me. And now we're not! So it turns out I cannot fly a plane.

      All of you, let's get behind this fellow! Move it out!

      Move out!

      Our only chance is if I do what I'd do, you copy me with the wings of the plane!

      Don't have to yell.

      I'm not yelling! We're in a lot of trouble.

      It's very hard to concentrate with that panicky tone in your voice!

      It's not a tone. I'm panicking!

      I can't do this!

      Vanessa, pull yourself together. You have to snap out of it!

      You snap out of it.

      You snap out of it.

      You snap out of it!

      You snap out of it!

      You snap out of it!

      You snap out of it!

      You snap out of it!

      You snap out of it!

      Hold it!

      Why? Oome on, it's my turn.

      How is the plane flying?

      I don't know.

      Hello?

      Benson, got any flowers for a happy occasion in there?

      The Pollen Jocks!

      They do get behind a fellow.

      Black and yellow. Hello. All right, let's drop this tin can on the blacktop.

      Where? I can't see anything. Oan you?

      No, nothing. It's all cloudy.

      Oome on. You got to think bee, Barry.

      Thinking bee. Thinking bee. Thinking bee! Thinking bee! Thinking bee!

      Wait a minute. I think I'm feeling something.

      What? I don't know. It's strong, pulling me. Like a 27-million-year-old instinct.

      Bring the nose down.

      Thinking bee! Thinking bee! Thinking bee!

      What in the world is on the tarmac? Get some lights on that! Thinking bee! Thinking bee! Thinking bee!

      Vanessa, aim for the flower. OK. Out the engines. We're going in on bee power. Ready, boys?

      Affirmative!

      Good. Good. Easy, now. That's it.

      Land on that flower!

      Ready? Full reverse!

      Spin it around!

      Not that flower! The other one!

      Which one?

      That flower.

      I'm aiming at the flower!

      That's a fat guy in a flowered shirt. I mean the giant pulsating flower

      made of millions of bees!

      Pull forward. Nose down. Tail up.

      Rotate around it.

      This is insane, Barry! This's the only way I know how to fly. Am I koo-koo-kachoo, or is this plane flying in an insect-like pattern?

      Get your nose in there. Don't be afraid. Smell it. Full reverse!

      Just drop it. Be a part of it.

      Aim for the center!

      Now drop it in! Drop it in, woman!

      Oome on, already.

      Barry, we did it! You taught me how to fly!

      Yes. No high-five! Right. Barry, it worked! Did you see the giant flower?

      What giant flower? Where? Of course I saw the flower! That was genius!

      Thank you. But we're not done yet. Listen, everyone!

      This runway is covered with the last pollen

      from the last flowers available anywhere on Earth.

      That means this is our last chance.

      We're the only ones who make honey, pollinate flowers and dress like this.

      If we're gonna survive as a species, this is our moment! What do you say?

      Are we going to be bees, orjust Museum of Natural History keychains?

      We're bees!

      Keychain!

      Then follow me! Except Keychain.

      Hold on, Barry. Here.

      You've earned this.

      Yeah!

      I'm a Pollen Jock! And it's a perfect fit. All I gotta do are the sleeves.

      Oh, yeah.

      That's our Barry.

      Mom! The bees are back!

      If anybody needs to make a call, now's the time.

      I got a feeling we'll be working late tonight!

      Here's your change. Have a great afternoon! Oan I help who's next?

      Would you like some honey with that? It is bee-approved. Don't forget these.

      Milk, cream, cheese, it's all me. And I don't see a nickel!

      Sometimes I just feel like a piece of meat!

      I had no idea.

      Barry, I'm sorry. Have you got a moment?

      Would you excuse me? My mosquito associate will help you.

      Sorry I'm late.

      He's a lawyer too?

      I was already a blood-sucking parasite. All I needed was a briefcase.

      Have a great afternoon!

      Barry, I just got this huge tulip order, and I can't get them anywhere.

      No problem, Vannie. Just leave it to me.

      You're a lifesaver, Barry. Oan I help who's next?

      All right, scramble, jocks! It's time to fly.

      Thank you, Barry!

      That bee is living my life!

      Let it go, Kenny.

      When will this nightmare end?!

      Let it all go.

      Beautiful day to fly.

      Sure is.

      Between you and me, I was dying to get out of that office.

      You have got to start thinking bee, my friend.

      Thinking bee! Me? Hold it. Let's just stop for a second. Hold it.

      I'm sorry. I'm sorry, everyone. Oan we stop here?

      I'm not making a major life decision during a production number!

      All right. Take ten, everybody. Wrap it up, guys.

      I had virtually no rehearsal for that.

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      Reviewer #1 (Public Review):

      The microtubule cytoskeleton is essential for basic cell functions, enabling intracellular transport, and establishment of cell polarity and motility. Microtubule-associated proteins (MAPs) contribute to the regulation of microtubule dynamics and stability - mechanisms that are specifically important for the development and physiological function of neurons. Here, the authors aimed to elucidate the neuronal function of the MAP Hmmr, which they had previously identified in a quantitative study of the proteome associated with neuronal microtubules.

      The authors conduct well-controlled experiments to demonstrate the localization of endogenous as well as exogenous Hmmr on microtubules within the soma as well as all neurites of hippocampal neurons. Functional analysis using gain- and loss-of-function approaches demonstrates that Hmmr levels are crucial for neuronal morphogenesis, as the length of both dendrites and axons decreases upon loss of Hmmr and increases upon Hmmr overexpression. In addition to length alterations, the branching pattern of neurites changes with Hmmr levels. To uncover the mechanism of how Hmmr influences neuronal morphology, the authors follow the lead that Hmmr overexpression induces looped microtubules in the soma, indicative of an increase in microtubule stability. Microtubule acetylation indeed decreases and increases with Hmmr LOF and GOF, respectively. Together with a rescue of nocodazole-induced microtubule destabilization by Hmmr GOF, these results argue that Hmmr regulates microtubule stability. Highlighted by the altered movement of a plus-end-associated protein, Hmmr also has an effect on the dynamic nature of microtubules. The authors present evidence suggesting that the nucleation frequency of neuronal microtubules depends on Hmmr's ability to recruit the microtubule nucleator Tpx2. Together, these data add novel insight into MAP-mediated regulation of microtubules as a prerequisite for neuronal morphogenesis. While the data shown support the author's conclusions, the study also has several weaknesses:

      • The study appears incomplete as the initial proteomics analysis which is referenced as an entry into the study is not presented. This surely is the authors' choice, however, without presenting this data set, it would make more sense if the authors first showed the localization of Hmmr on neuronal microtubules and then started with the functional analysis.

      The reviewer suggests moving the Hmmr localization data in front of the loss- and gain-of-function data because we did not present the proteomics data. However, we still believe placing the loss- and gain-of-function data in the beginning is the better arrangement. This is because it allows the audience to see the drastic changes on neuronal morphology when HMMR is depleted or overly abundant. It also provides a better linkage between HMMR’s localization on microtubules and its effect on the stability and dynamics of microtubules.

      • Neurite branching is quantified, but the methods used are not consistent (normalized branch density vs. Sholl analysis) and there is no distinction between alterations of branching in dendrites vs. axons. This information should be added as it could prove informative with respect to the physiological function of Hmmr in neurite branching.

      Sholl analysis is considered the gold standard in neurite branching analyses. However, in the knockdown experiment (Figure 1A~1E), HMMR-depleted neurons exhibited extremely short axons (<100 μm) and dendrites (<40 μm). Using Sholl analysis to assess the branching of these Hmmrdepleted neurons became unsuitable. That is why we used normalized branch density (Figure 1E) in the knockdown experiment and Sholl analysis (Figure 1J) in the overexpression experiment.

      Regarding the branching difference between axons and dendrites, only axons exhibit branches at 4 DIV. Therefore, the branching analysis focuses on axons rather than on dendrites. We have revised the manuscript to clarify this.

      • The authors show that altered Hmmr levels affect neurite branching and identify an effect on microtubule stability and dynamics as a molecular mechanism. However, how branching correlates with or is regulated by Hmmr-mediated microtubule dynamics is neither addressed experimentally nor discussed by the authors. The physiological significance of altered neuronal morphogenesis also lacks discussion.
      • To discuss how branching correlates with or is regulated by HMMR-mediated microtubule dynamics, we have added the following paragraph into the Discussion section:

      “It has been shown that compromising microtubule nucleation in neurons by SSNA1 mutant overexpression prevents proper axon branching (Basnet et al., 2018). Additionally, dendritic branching in Drosophila sensory neurons depends on the orientation of microtubule nucleation. Nucleation that results in an anterograde microtubule growth leads to increased branching, while nucleation that results in a retrograde microtubule growth leads to decreased branching (Yalgin et al., 2015). These results demonstrate the importance of microtubule nucleation on neurite branching. It is conceivable that overexpressing a microtubule nucleation promoting protein such as HMMR results in an increase of branching complexity.”

      • In terms of discussing the physiological significance of altered neuronal morphogenesis. We have added the following paragraph to the Discussion section:

      “Neurons are the communication units of the nervous system. The formation of their intricate shape is therefore crucial for the physiological function. Alterations in neuronal morphogenesis have a profound impact on how nerve cells communicate, leading to a variety of physiological consequences. These consequences include impaired neural circuit formation and function, compromised signal transmission between neurons, as well as altered anatomical structure of the CNS. Depending on the specific type and location of the morphogenetically altered neurons, the physiological consequences can include neurological disorders such as autism spectrum disorder (Berkel et al., 2012) and schizophrenia (Goo et al., 2023), as well as learning and memory deficits (Winkle et al., 2016). However, due to the involvement of HMMR on mitosis, most HMMR mutations are associated with familial cancers (based on ClinVar data).”

      • Multiple times, the manuscript lacks a rationale for an experimental approach, choice of cell type, time points, regions of interest, etc. Also, a meaningful description of the methods and for how data were analyzed is missing, making the paper hard to read for someone not directly from the field.

      We understand the reviewer’s comments regarding the lack of rationale for choosing the experimental approach, choice of cell type, time points, regions of interest, etc. As a result, we have added the rationales where appropriate to help readers from other fields to better understand the choice of cell type, time points, regions of interest, etc. A brief explanation is shown below:

      • Approach and timing: We employed both electroporation (immediate but milder expression) and lipofectamine transfection (delayed but stronger expression). We prioritized knocking down HMMR early in development, so electroporation was used. For overexpression experiments, we chose lipofectamine which allows high protein expression level to be achieved.

      • Cell selection: Hippocampal neurons were chosen in experiments that involve morphological quantification due to their homogeneous morphology. On the other hand, cortical neurons were selected in experiments that require large amounts of neurons and/or experiments where we want to demonstrate the universality of a proposed hypothesis.

      • Regions of interest (ROIs): In our previous publication (Chen et al., 2017), it was discovered that a significant reduction of EB3 emanation frequency can be detected at the tip and the base of the neurite but not in the middle of the neurite in TPX2-depleted neurons. The reason for this difference is due to the presence of GTP-bound Ran GTPase (RanGTP) at the tip and the base of the neurite. Since RanGTP has also been shown to regulate the interaction between HMMR and TPX2 in the cell-free system (Scrofani et al., 2015), it is possible that the same phenomenon can be observed in HMMR-depleted neurons. This is why we examined those 3 ROIs in Figure 4.

      Reviewer #2 (Public Review):

      The mechanism of microtubule formation, stabilization, and organization in neurites is important for neuronal function. In this manuscript, the authors examine the phenotype of neurons following alteration in the level of the protein HMMR, a microtubule-associated protein with established roles in mitosis. Neurite morphology is measured as well as microtubule stability and dynamic parameters using standard assays. A binding partner of HMMR, TPX2, is localized. The results support a role for HMMR in neurons.

      The work presented in this manuscript seeks to determine if a MAP called HMMR contributes to microtubule dynamics in neurons. Several steps, including validation of the RNAi, additional statistical analysis, use of cells at the same age in culture, and better documentation in figures, would increase the impact of the work.

      In many places, the data can be improved which might make the story more convincing. As presented, the results show that HMMR is distributed as puncta on neurons with data coming from a single HMMR antibody, and some background staining that was not discussed. In the discussion the authors state that HMMR impacts microtubule stability, which was evaluated by the presence of post-translational modification and resistance to nocodazole; the data are suggestive but not entirely convincing. The discussion also states that HMMR increases the “amount” of growing microtubules which was measured as the frequency of comet appearance. The authors did not comment on how the number of growing microtubules results in the observed morphological changes.

      We actually tested several HMMR antibodies, including E-19 (Santa Cruz, sc-16170), EPR4054 (Abcam, ab124729), and a variety of antibodies provided by Prof. Eva Turley. E-19 performed the best in immunofluorescence (IF) staining and knockdown validation. The other antibodies either failed to detect HMMR in IF staining or generate excessive background signal. We understand that the final images are produced using a single antibody. But since we meticulous validated this antibody and that the localization of overexpressed HMMR is consistent with the endogenous HMMR, we are very confident about our data generated using this single antibody.

      We have added the following paragraph in the Discussion section to elucidate how the number of growing microtubules result in the observed morphological changes such as an increase of axon branches:

      “It has been shown that compromising microtubule nucleation in neurons by SSNA1 mutant overexpression prevents proper axon branching (Basnet et al., 2018). Additionally, dendritic branching in Drosophila sensory neurons depends on the orientation of microtubule nucleation. Nucleation that results in an anterograde microtubule growth leads to increased branching, while nucleation that results in a retrograde microtubule growth leads to decreased branching (Yalgin et al., 2015). These results demonstrate the importance of microtubule nucleation on neurite branching. It is conceivable that overexpressing a microtubule nucleation promoting protein such as HMMR results in an increase of branching complexity.

      Reviewer #1 (Recommendations for The Authors):

      (1) The manuscript jumps extensively between main figures and supplementary figures. Please check whether parts of the supplement could be moved to the main figures.

      We understand the frustration of moving back and forth between the main figures and supplementary figures. After examining the manuscript, we decided to combine Figure 2A with Figure S3.

      (2) In Figure 1, total neurite length between days 3 and 4 DIV does not appear to change - can this be true?

      Please check or else explain.

      We carefully re-examined our raw data and found out the total neurite length of 4 DIV hippocampal neurons expressing non-targeting shRNA (Figure 1B) and that of 3 DIV hippocampal neurons expressing AcGFP (Figure 1G) are indeed very similar. The explanation is that the 3 DIV hippocampal neurons used for Figure 1G was cultured in low-density and in the presence of cortical neuron-conditioned neurobasal medium (as written in Methods, Neuron culture and transfection section). The low-density culture with minimal overlapping neurites allowed us to better quantify total neurite length, because neurons expressing AcGFP-mHMMR sprouted long and highly branched axons. However, the addition of cortical neuron-conditioned neurobasal medium promoted neurite elongation. This is the reason why the total neurite length of 4 DIV hippocampal neurons expressing non-targeting shRNA (Figure 1B) and that of 3 DIV hippocampal neurons expressing AcGFP (Figure 1G) is similar.

      (3) Groen et al. have shown that Hmmr also bundles microtubules, a mechanism that surely is important for neuronal microtubules. Please discuss.

      We thank the reviewer for pointing out that HMMR also bundles microtubules and have added this to our revised Discussion section:

      “It has been shown that the Xenopus HMMR homolog XRHAMM bundles microtubules in vitro (Groen et al., 2004). In addition, deleting proteins which promote microtubule bundling (e.g., doublecortin knockout, MAP1B/MAP2 double knockout) leads to impaired neurite outgrowth (Bielas et al., 2007; Teng et al., 2001). These observations are consistent with our data that overexpressing HMMR leads to the increased axon and dendrite outgrowth, while depleting it results in the opposite phenotype (Figure 1).”

      (4) Please explain why in Figure 4, cortical neurons were chosen for analysis and why and how the three different ROIs were picked.

      To answer the question why we chose cortical neurons for the analyses in Figure 4, it will be important to explain why we used hippocampal neurons for other figures. Primary hippocampal neurons have a high homogeneity in terms of their morphology. This uniform morphology allows more consistent morphological quantification. Figure 4, however, does not involve morphological quantification. We are more confident to conclude that HMMR regulates microtubule dynamics if this effect can be detected in the relatively heterogeneous cortical neurons. These are the reasons why we chose to analyze cortical neurons in Figure 4.

      In our previous publication (Chen et al., 2017), it was discovered that a significant reduction of EB3 emanation frequency can be detected at the tip and the base of the neurite but not in the middle of the neurite in TPX2-depleted neurons. The reason for this difference is due to the presence of GTP-bound Ran GTPase (RanGTP) at the tip of the neurite and in the soma. Since RanGTP has also been shown to regulate the interaction between HMMR and TPX2 in the cell-free system (Scrofani et al., 2015), it is possible that the same phenomenon can be observed in HMMR-depleted neurons. This was why we examined those 3 ROIs in Figure 4.

      (5) Microtubule looping has been shown to occur in regions prior to branch formation (e.g. Dent et al. 2004). As the authors identify increased looping upon Hmmr GOF, this should be discussed.

      We thank the reviewer for pointing out that microtubule looping occurs in regions of branch formation and have added this to our revised discussion:

      “It is worth noting that the elevated level of HMMR increases the branching density of axons (Figure 1J) and promotes the formation of looped microtubules (Figure 3A). This is consistent with the observations that looped microtubules are often detected in regions of axon branch formation (Dent et al., 1999; Dent and Kalil, 2001; Purro et al., 2008).”

      Reviewer #2 (Recommendations for The Authors):

      (1) The work seeks to gain insight into microtubule behavior in neurons, an important issue.

      (2) Several steps, including validation of the RNAi, additional statistical analysis, use of cells at the same age in culture, and better documentation in figures, would increase the impact of the work.

      (3) Figure 1 documents the results of experiments in which the HMMR protein was depleted using shRNA. A western blot of cell extracts from control and depleted cells is needed to verify that the protein level is reduced; alternatively, documentation of the reduction in RNA levels in treated cells could be provided. Neurite, axon, and dendrite length and branch density are measured. The neurite length is in microns, and the axon length is normalized to 100% of the non-treated cells. Please use the same for measures for easier comparison. Looking at the images in Figure 1, the length of the dendrites does not look different in the examples shown, whereas the axon appears shorter. This impression is not supported by the quantification. Are representative images shown? Additionally, the authors should report the values for each replicate of the experiment and compare the three averages rather than comparison of lengths from all measurements. A related issue is that the dendrites do not look longer in panel F, following overexpression of HMMR. For examples of using averages of replicates see: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32346721/

      The reviewer mentioned that Western blot of cell extracts or RNA quantification from control and depleted cells are needed to verify that the protein level is reduced.

      Unfortunately, these assays are extremely difficult to perform in primary neurons due to the low transfection efficiency. We believe that the consistent knockdown phenotype from 3 different shRNA sequences (Figure 1A-D) and the immunofluorescence staining in depleted primary neurons (Figure S2) are sufficient to confirm that HMMR level is reduced.

      We revised Figure 1C, 1D, 1H, 1I so that axon and dendrite lengths are all in micron.

      We selected another image for the non-targeting control in Figure 1A to better demonstrate the reduction of dendrite length when HMMR is knocked down.

      We thank the reviewer for the suggestion of comparing the three average values rather than comparing all measurements. We have performed statistical analyses for all our data using the average values and revised the graphs accordingly. While the P-values changed, our conclusions remain the same.

      We thank the reviewer for pointing out this discrepancy and have selected another image of the AcGFP control for Figure 1F to better demonstrate the increase of dendrite length when HMMR is overexpressed.

      (4) Given the changes in neurite morphology, the authors examine the localization of endogenous and overexpressed. The supplemental figures (see S2 and S3) show evidence that HMMR is present in a punctate pattern by conventional immunofluorescence. This is reasonable evidence that the protein is in a linear pattern along cytoskeletal microtubules and that the signal is present in puncta. Please move this to the main text, perhaps replacing Figure 2A, which is low magnification and very hard to see the HMMR staining. Additionally, the level of overexpression of HMMR is not mentioned. Please address this; were cells with similar levels of overexpression selected? Did the result depend on the overexpression? A related issue is the DIV for the cells - some are examined earlier and some at later times; does this impact the results? Please provide information or perform experiments with consistent timing. For the immunofluorescence, were multiple antibodies tried to see if the result was the same with each? Were different fixations, in addition to methanol, utilized?

      We have replaced Figure 2A with Figure S3 based on the reviewer’s suggestion.

      In the HMMR overexpression experiments, we used HMMR antibody and immunofluorescence staining to confirm that the overexpression is achieved. However, we did not quantify to what extend HMMR was overexpressed.

      We performed all the depletion experiments on 4 DIV to maximize knockdown efficiency and performed all the overexpression experiments on 3 DIV to prevent excessive axon fasciculation. Nonetheless, we examined the effect of HMMR depletion on neuronal morphology on 3 DIV. The trend of reduced total neurite length, axon length, and dendrite length can be observed, but no statistical significance can be detected. We also examined the effect of HMMR overexpression on neuronal morphology on 4 DIV and did observe an increase of total neurite length, axon length, and dendrite length. But the overlapping and bundled axons made reliable quantification extremely difficult.

      We actually tested multiple HMMR antibodies, such as E-19 (Santa Cruz, sc-16170), EPR4054 (Abcam, ab124729), and a variety of antibodies provided by Prof. Eva Turley. E19 performed the best in immunofluorescence (IF) staining and knockdown validation. The other antibodies either failed to detect HMMR in IF staining or generate excessive background signal. We also tested various fixation methods, including 37°C formaldehyde fixation, -20°C methanol fixation, 37°C formaldehyde followed by -20°C methanol fixation. All fixation methods generated similar IF staining pattern using the E-19 antibody, but 3.7% formaldehyde fixation produced the highest signal.

      (5) In Figure 2 C it is hard to see DAPI fluorescence. Are the white areas in the merge with bright cell nuclei? Is Figure 2C control or overexpressing cells? If this is endogenous, is there less signal in PLA compared with S4, which was in culture longer and is overexpressed prior to using PLA for detection?

      The white areas in Figure 2C the reviewer mentioned are not cell nuclei, they are actually bubbles formed within the mounting medium.

      HMMR detected in Figure 2C is endogenous. We did not quantitatively compare the PLA signals in Figure 2C and those in Figure S4. This is because the PLA signals in Figure 2C are generated using anti-HMMR (to detect endogenous HMMR) and anti-β-III-tubulin antibodies while those in Figure S4 are generated using anti-AcGFP (to detect overexpressed AcGFP-mHMMR) and anti-β-III-tubulin antibodies. Since the affinity of the two antibodies (i.e., anti-HMMR and anti-AcGFP) toward their antigens is different, comparing the PLA signals is not informative.

      (6) The images of the endogenous HMMR (Fig S3) and the PLA with tubulin and HMMR antibodies are not the same (2C). The "dots" in PLA are widely separated; gauging from the marker bar length of 50 μm, the small clusters of dots are about 10 μm apart. In Figure S3, the puncta are much more closely spaced, appearing almost in a linear fashion along the microtubules. Enlarging the PLA image shows that each dot is very small - just a few pixels - please provide additional explanation including the minimal detection limit for the method, and why the images differ. If the standard immunofluorescence signal was enhanced, for example with the use of two secondaries, what is observed? Is the distribution of HMMR similar for both dendrites and axons? Microtubule polarity differs in these locations, so greater attention to this point seems of interest. There is a significant amount of punctate HMMR in the cytoplasm (or outside the cytoplasm?) in Figure S5; this is concerning. Please outline the cell edge for ease of visualization. What is the distribution of HMMR in a cell that has been treated with cold and/or nocodazole to disassemble the microtubules? is the signal lost?

      The reasons images of the endogenous HMMR (Figure S3) and the PLA with tubulin and HMMR antibodies (Figure 2C) differ are due to the following reasons. o PLA utilizes two primary antibodies to target two different epitopes on HMMR and βIII-tubulin. It is conceivable that not every anti-HMMR antibody has the correct orientation and/or proximity (<40 nm) toward the anti-β-III-tubulin antibody to enable DNA amplification. This results in the shortage of PLA puncta compared to immunofluorescence signals.

      • The creator of PLA has pointed out that in situ PLA is a method based upon equilibrium reactions and several enzymatic steps. Therefore, only a fraction of the inter-acting molecules is detected (Weibrecht et al., 2010).

      We have not used signal enhancing immunofluorescence staining methods [e.g., using tertiary antibodies or tyramide signal amplification (TSA)] to detect HMMR. This is mainly because HMMR signal is strong enough to be detected using standard immunofluorescence staining.

      Regarding the question “Is the distribution of HMMR similar for both dendrites and axons?” The reviewer raised a very important issue about the polarity difference of microtubules in axons (uniform) and dendrites (mixed). We were aware of such issue and very carefully examined the distribution and signal intensity of HMMR in axons vs dendrites. However, no differences were detected.

      The reviewer mentioned that “there is a significant amount of punctate HMMR in the cytoplasm (or outside the cytoplasm?) in Figure S5; this is concerning. Please outline the cell edge for ease of visualization.” Instead of outlining the cell edge, we have selected another image to facilitate the visualization of HMMR signals. There are indeed HMMR signals outside the cell. However, these outside signals are usually weaker and smaller in size compared to those inside the cell.

      After the examination of neurons expressing AcGFP-mHMMR with or without 100 nM nocodazole treatment, we did not notice any difference of AcGFP-mHMMR in distribution. We did not examine the distribution and signal intensity of the endogenous HMMR.

      (7) To determine if HMMR alters microtubule stability, the authors examine the distribution of acetylated tubulin and resistance to nocodazole-induced microtubule disassembly. In Figure 3 please show immunofluorescence images of the acetylated tubulin staining, not just the ratio images; the color is not obviously different in the various panels shown. For statistical analysis, see the comment above for Figure 1. For the nocodazole experiment, a similar change in neurite length following drug treatment was observed (Figure 3H), for the experimental and control, even though the starting length was greater in the overexpressing cells. Please consider the possibility that in both cases the microtubules are only partially resistant to nocodazole and that HMMR is not changing the fraction of microtubules that are sensitive to the drug. The cells were treated at 3 DIV; the authors note that more stable microtubules accumulate with time; how does time in culture impact stability? Often, acute treatment with a high concentration of nocodazole is used to assay microtubule stability; here the authors used a low (nM) concentration for 2 days (chronic). Why not use a higher concentration (1-10 μM) for a shorter incubation? The data show that overexpression of HMMR results in curved, buckled microtubules are these microtubules more acetylated and/or retained after nocodazole treatment?

      The reviewer suggested that we show immunofluorescence images of the acetylated tubulin staining, not just the ratio images. But we still believe showing the ratio images is the better approach. This is because the microtubules density can be different from neuron to neuron. Showing acetylated tubulin may provide a false impression when the overall microtubule density is higher or lower in a particular neuron. We realized that “16 colors” pseudo-color scheme has the cyan color at the lower intensity which can sometimes be confused with the white color at the higher intensity. Therefore, we changed the pseudocolor from “16 colors” to “fire” for Figure 3B and 3E to better visualize these images so that they appear more consistent with the quantitative data.

      The reviewer raised a very good question regarding the possibility that HMMR is not changing the fraction of microtubules that are sensitive to nocodazole. We re-conducted the same experiment and used a series of different nocodazole concentrations. While the addition of nocodazole causes a concentration-dependent reduction of total neurite length in both AcGFP and AcGFP-mHMMR expressing neurons, there are subtle differences in the susceptibility of neurite length to the concentration of nocodazole. 1) 10 nM nocodazole treatment causes a significant reduction of neurite length in AcGFP expressing neurons, but not in AcGFP-mHMMR expressing neurons. This result indicates that AcGFP-mHMMR expression increases the tolerance of neurite elongation toward 10 nM nocodazole treatment. 2) 50 nM and 100 nM nocodazole treatment exhibits no statistical significance in AcGFP expressing neurons, suggesting that 50 nM nocodazole has reached maximal effectiveness. In AcGFP-mHMMR expressing neurons, 100 nM nocodazole further reduces the neurite length compared to the 50 nM group. These results argue against the possibility that HMMR does not change the fraction of microtubules that are sensitive to nocodazole. We have revised Figure 3H accordingly.

      The reviewer asked why we did not use the acute nocodazole treatment (μM concentration) to assess the effect of Hmmr on microtubule stability. This is because we used the neurite length as an indicator for microtubule stability. That is why the chronic treatment was chosen to produce a more detectable effect on neurite length.

      The reviewer asked whether the looped microtubules caused by HMMR overexpression are more acetylated and/or nocodazole resistant. While we do not have direct evidence to answer the reviewer’s question, we can deduce the answer from our observations. We noticed that looped microtubules are only present when HMMR is highly expressed (i.e., using lipofection to introduce HMMR-expressing plasmid) but not when HMMR is mildly expressed (i.e., using electroporation to introduce HMMR-expressing plasmid). From these observations, we can conclude that HMMR is more abundantly present on looped microtubules. Since HMMR overexpression leads to higher microtubule acetylation (Figure 3E), looped microtubules which contains more HMMR are most likely to be more acetylated.

      (8) An additional measure of microtubule dynamics is to measure the growth of microtubules using a live cell marker for microtubule plus ends. Such experiments were performed, using tagged EB3. The images are rather fuzzy. Parameters of microtubule dynamics were measured at three locations - is there data that the authors can cite about any differences in dynamics in control cells at these locations? They look very similar, so it is not clear why the different locations were used. It is not possible to learn much from the kymographs which look similar for all panels; I would remove these unless they can be changed or labeled to help the reader. Data is presented for three shRNA reagents. No data are presented to document the extent to which the protein is depleted with these reagents. This should be fixed. Alternatively, an RNAi pool could be utilized. Is there a control for off-target effects? For the analysis were all the comets used to generate the average values? What about a comparison of the average of each trial - not each comet?

      In our previous publication (Chen et al., 2017), it was discovered that a significant reduction of EB3 emanation frequency can be detected at the tip and the base of the neurite but not in the middle of the neurite in TPX2-depleted neurons. The reason for this difference is due to the presence of RanGTP at the tip and the base of the neurite. Since RanGTP has also been shown to regulate the interaction between HMMR and TPX2 in the cell-free system (Scrofani et al., 2015), it is possible that the same phenomenon can be observed in HMMR-depleted neurons. This is why we examined those 3 ROIs in Figure 4.

      We notice that photobleaching causes the EB3-mCherry signal to diminish at later time points, which made it difficult to observe the differences amongst kymographs. In the revised Figure 4B and 4D, we removed the second half of all the kymographs to make the differences more obvious.

      The reviewer mentioned that there are no data documenting the extent to which the protein is depleted with the shRNAs. These data are shown in Figure S2, in which we quantified the HMMR protein level in the soma and along the neurite in neurons expressing different shRNA molecules.

      The reviewer asked whether there is a control for off-target effects. The answer is yes. We performed the rescue experiment to control for off-target effects, which is shown in Figure S1.

      We revised Figure 4 so that the dynamic properties of EB3 are quantified using the average of each experimental repetition.

      (9) In a final experiment, the authors examine the distribution of TPX2, a binding partner of HMMR. Include a standard immunofluorescence in addition to PLA to illustrate the distribution of TPX2. The quantification used was the inter puncta distance; please quantify the signal in control and treated cells.

      The reviewer asked us to include a standard immunofluorescence staining to illustrate the distribution of TPX2. We have done that in our previous publication (Chen et al., 2017) and TPX2 localizes primarily to the centrosome (https://www.nature.com/articles/srep42297/figures/2). In order to enhance the weak signal of TPX2 along the neurite, we actually needed to use PLA in that publication (https://www.nature.com/articles/srep42297/figures/3).

      Proximity ligation assay (PLA) generates fluorescent signals based on a local enzymatic reaction which catalyzes the amplification of a specific DNA sequence that can then be detected using a red fluorescent probe. Because this enzymatic reaction is not linear, the amount of amplified DNA nor the intensity of the fluorescence does not correlate with the strength of the interaction (Soderberg et al., 2006). As a result, quantification of PLA is typically done by counting the number of fluorescent puncta per unit area or by calculating the area containing fluorescent signal (not signal intensity) per unit area in the case that PLA signals are too strong and coalesced. That is why our quantification is based on the distance between PLA fluorescent puncta, not the fluorescent signal intensity.

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    1. Author response:

      We are grateful to the reviewers for their interest and enthusiasm about the work, and deeply appreciate their constructive comments and suggestions. Our responses are below

      (1) Do mice with BCR-ABL/MSI2-HOXA9 leukemia have an increased pool of leukemic stem cells (LSC), or do they have an increased propensity to develop blast cells? Is it the number of LSCs that has increased, or is it the function of LSC to give rise to the disease that has increased? It is not clear if the detected differences in Lineage-negative cells (Figure S1D) were detected in vitro in retrovirally transduced cells or were detected in vivo in transplanted mice. If the differences were detected in vitro, could the author confirm the same findings in vivo? This will greatly enhance the understanding of in vivo disease pathogenesis and could directly link the aggressivity of the disease (shortened survival) with an increased stem cell-like population.

      We find that BCR-ABL/MSI2-HOXA9 leads to a marked increase in Lineage negative (Lin-) cells which contains the LSC fraction. Specifically, the LSC containing fraction represented 14.1% of the BCR-ABL driven disease and 56.7% of the BCR-ABL and MSI2-HOXA9 driven disease (p<.0001). This suggests that MSI2-HOXA9 triggers the expansion of the undifferentiated LSC containing pool. In addition, the blast frequency was also increased albeit to a lesser extent, with 63.8% blasts (SEM 1.1) for BCR-ABL and 83.3% (SEM 3.1) for BCR-ABL/MSI2-HOXA9 (p=.0001). This suggests that the resulting aggressive disease seen with MSI2-HOXA9 is a consequence of a large increase in undifferentiated  LSC containing cells, as well as the resulting increase in the blast count. The Lin- cells were analyzed from fully established leukemias in vivo (Fig. S1D)

      (2) The authors suggest that BCR-ABL/MSI2-HOXA9 leads to the development of blast crisis-CML. One of the main characteristics of blast crisis-CML is drug resistance. Is BCR-ABL/MSI2-HOXA9 leukemia resistant to classical CML treatment drugs?

      The sensitivity to Imatinib is a very interesting question. In general, while differentiated cells in CML are sensitive to Imatinib, the more undifferentiated cells (LSCs) are resistant1,2. Based on the fact that therapy resistance in blast crisis is largely driven by the undifferentiated fraction of leukemia cells, and given that BCR-ABL/MSI2-HOXA9 driven disease harbors a larger fraction of these undifferentiated cells, we would predict that BCR-ABL/MSI2-HOXA9 leukemia would also be more resistant to imatinib. However, this would need to be experimentally demonstrated and is an important question to address.

      (3) The authors have emphasized the heightened expression of Polrmt in delineating the mitochondrial phenotype of BCR-ABL/MSI2-HOXA9 leukemia cells. However, the regulatory mechanism governing the expression of Polrmt by MSI2-HOXA9 has not been clearly demonstrated by the authors. Unveiling this mechanism would constitute a novel finding and significantly elevate the quality of the research.

      Since Polrmt and mitochondrial genes are transcribed in the nucleus we explored whether MSI2-HOXA9 may control mitochondrial gene expression by triggering expression of Polrmt and other key transcription factors. Consistent with this possibility, MSI2-HOXA9 was preferentially found in the nucleus relative to MSI2. In addition, there were 10 occurrences of the minimal MSI2 RRM1 consensus binding sequence UAGU within the Polrmt transcript. While this is consistent with the possibility that Polrmt expression can be post-transcriptionally modulated by MSI2-HOXA9, this needs to be experimentally validated using Clip Seq analysis with wild type MSI2 as well as the MSI2-HOXA9 fusion protein in context of blast crisis CML.

      (4) Did the authors observe any survival differences between BCR-ABL/NUP98-HOXA9 and BCR-ABL/MSI2-HOXA9?

      In previous work from our lab we have found that the median survival for BCR-ABL/NUP98-HOXA9 was 17 days, and with BCR-ABL/ MSI2-HOXA9 was 18.5 days (p value of 0.22). This suggests that there is not a significant difference in survival times between the leukemias driven by the distinct alleles, and they may be equally aggressive.

      (1) MSI2-HOXA9 fusion is extremely rare as it has been only found in a handful of patients and it is not clear whether other MSI2 fusions function in a similar manner.

      We were very surprised and excited to see the large number of translocations in solid cancers that involve MSI2.  Interestingly, MSI2 translocations occurred both at the N and the C terminus.  Distinct translocations are likely to have unique roles in each disease context. For example, if MSI2’s 5 prime end is part of a translocation, it may functionally contribute via its promoter to drive expression in immature cells and could thus activate oncogenic signals (e.g. controlled by the partner gene) in immature cells which are inherently more susceptible to transformation (Eµ-myc is an example of such a translocation). If Msi2’s RRM domains are part of the fusion, they could bind and target RNAs aberrantly (such as in the wrong cell and the wrong time) and lead to activation of downstream oncogenic mediators. To fully understand the role of each of these translocations in each specific cancer, we would need to experimentally test their impact by ectopic expression in the appropriate cell of origin and domain mapping the basis of any impact in the relevant cancer models as we have done for MSI2-HOXA9 in blast crisis CML in the work we report here.   While this is an intensive undertaking, it is nonetheless important future work as it will undoubtedly lead to new insight about MSI2 linked translocations in diverse solid cancers such as breast cancer and lung cancer.

      (2) The mechanism needs to be strengthened since MSI2 alone or the HOXA9 mutant may not be linked to the mitochondrial mechanism. (3) It is not clear that the mitochondrial pathway is sufficient for the MSI2-HOXA9 oncogenic mechanism.

      Our observation that MSI2-HOXA9 triggered changes in mitochondrial function was of particular interest as it was (to our knowledge) uncharted in context of Msi2 signaling in cancer, thus leading us to explore this further.  However, multiple other signals are likely downstream regulators and these may well act cooperatively with, or independently of, the heightened­­ mitochondrial function we report here. Among these pathways, the most likely mediators included oncogenic programs related to the Wnt pathway including Wnt, Fzd 3 and Frat1, and those related to the Notch pathway including-Tribbles and Hey1 as well as other stem cell genes such as Aldh1. These programs have been previously implicated in the regulation of myeloid leukemia3-11 and could well mediate the impact of the MSI2-HOXA9 translocation. The relative contribution of mitochondrial metabolism and that of developmental and stem cell signals to the onset of MSI2-HOXA9 driven blast crisis CML is an important avenue of future work.

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    1. Reviewer #1 (Public Review):

      Summary:

      The authors aimed to modify the characteristics of the extracellular matrix (ECM) produced by immortalized mesenchymal stem cells (MSCs) by employing the CRISPR/Cas9 system to knock out specific genes. Initially, they established VEGF-KO cell lines, demonstrating that these cells retained chondrogenic and angiogenic properties. Additionally, lyophilized carriage tissues produced by these cells exhibited retained osteogenic properties.

      Subsequently, the authors established RUNX2-KO cell lines, which exhibited reduced COLX expression during chondrogenic differentiation and notably diminished osteogenic properties in vitro. Transplantation of lyophilized carriage tissues produced by RUNX2-KO cell lines into osteochondral defects in rat knee joints resulted in the regeneration of articular cartilage tissues as well as bone tissues, a phenomenon not observed with tissues derived from parental cells. This suggests that gene-edited MSCs represent a valuable cell source for producing ECM with enhanced quality.

      Strengths:

      The enhanced cartilage regeneration observed with ECM derived from RUNX2-KO cells supports the authors' strategy of creating gene-edited MSCs capable of producing ECM with superior quality. Immortalized cell lines offer a limitless source of off-the-shelf material for tissue regeneration.

      Weaknesses:

      Most data align with anticipated outcomes, offering limited novelty to advance scientific understanding. Methodologically, the chondrogenic differentiation properties of immortalized MSCs appeared deficient, evidenced by Safranin-O staining of 3D tissues and histological findings lacking robust evidence for endochondral differentiation. This presents a critical limitation, particularly as authors propose the implantation of cartilage tissues for in vivo experiments. Instead, the bulk of data stemmed from type I collagen scaffold with factors produced by MSCs stimulated by TGFβ.

      The rationale behind establishing VEGF-KO cell lines remains unclear. What specific outcomes did the authors anticipate from this modification?

      Insufficient depth was given to elucidate the disparity in osteogenic properties between those observed in ectopic bone formation and those observed in transplantation into osteochondral defects. While the regeneration of articular cartilage in RUNX2-KO ECM presents intriguing results, the study lacked an exploration into underlying mechanisms, such as histological analyses at earlier time points.

    1. July 1848

      Consider the time period of the artifact and how it affects not only the artifact, but the implications and impact made by the artifact. * This artifact took place in July 1848, 72 years after Abigail Adams wrote a letter to her husband and Founding Father, John Adams. In her letter, she essentially warned Adams of what the future would hold if governing men continued to refuse to recognize Women's Rights.

    1. sessions := 1 to: 11

      El tipo de mensaje es keyword porque son aquellos mensajes que consisten en uno o más nombres de argumentos precedidos por dos puntos (:). Su composición parte de:

      Un receptor (objeto), el mensaje (método a utilizar) y el argumento que son los valores que se pasan al método para que pueda realizar la tarea. En los mensajes keyword, los argumentos están precedidos por dos puntos (:) y separados por comas (,).

      Para este caso: * El objeto es: sessions. * El mensaje es: to * y el argumento pasado por el método to es el 11, Esto indica que la secuencia de números enteros debe ir desde 1 hasta 11 inclusive.

    2. 27 * 23

      Para este ejercicio el tipo de mensaje es binario porque se compone de tres partes: receptor (objeto), selector (mensaje) y argumento.

      1. Objeto: es el receptor del mensaje. En este caso, el objeto es el número 27.
      2. Mensaje: es la acción que se le está enviando al objeto. Para este ejemplo, el mensaje es la operación de multiplicación representada por el selector ( * ), que indica que se debe multiplicar el objeto con el argumento.
      3. Argumento: es el valor que se pasa al mensaje o con el que se realizar la operación. Para este caso, el argumento es el número 23.

      En concusión, devuelve como resultado.

    3. memories do: [:doc | | fileName | fileName := (doc url asString splitOn: $:) last , '.md'. doc file: folder / fileName. doc exportAsFile. ]

      Es un mensaje tipo keyword

      • El objeto es: memories
      • El mensaje es: do
      • El argumento del mensaje es: do es el bloque proporcionado entre corchetes [:doc | .... ] aquí el iterador es el do, el cual se utiliza para recorrer cada elemento de la colección o objeto memories y ejecutar el bloque proporcionado para cada uno de ellos.

      Resultado devuelto al ejecutar todo el bloque:

    1. memories do: [:doc | | fileName | fileName := (doc url asString splitOn: $:) last , '.md'. doc file: folder / fileName. doc exportAsFile. ]

      Es un mensaje tipo keyword

      • El objeto es: memories
      • El mensaje es: do
      • El argumento del mensaje do es el bloque proporcionado entre corchetes [:doc | .... ] aquí el iterador es el do, el cual se utiliza para recorrer cada elemento de la colección o objeto memories y ejecutar el bloque proporcionado para cada uno de ellos.

      Resultado devuelto al ejecutar todo el bloque:

    2. folder := FileLocator documents / 'USemanticas\leidy-palma\Wiki\es\sesiones'.

      Este es un tipo de mensaje binario en donde

      Objeto:

      • El objeto principal en este ejemplo es FileLocator, que es una clase en Pharo utilizada para ubicar archivos en el sistema de archivos.

      Mensaje:

      • El mensaje principal enviado es /, que es un mensaje binario. Este mensaje se utiliza para combinar dos rutas de archivos o directorios.

      Argumento:

      • El argumento del mensaje / es la cadena 'USemanticas\leidy-palma\Wiki\es\sesiones', que representa la ruta relativa de un directorio en el sistema de archivos.

      Este ejercicio devuelve como resultado:

    3. sessions := 1 to: 11

      El tipo de mensaje es keyword porque son aquellos mensajes que consisten en uno o más nombres de argumentos precedidos por dos puntos (:). Su composición parte de:

      Un receptor (objeto), el mensaje (método a utilizar) y el argumento que son los valores que se pasan al método para que pueda realizar la tarea. En los mensajes keyword, los argumentos están precedidos por dos puntos (:) y separados por comas (,).

      Para este caso: * El objeto es sessions. * El mensaje es to * y el argumento pasado por el método to es el 11, Esto indica que la secuencia de números enteros debe ir desde 1 hasta 11 inclusive.

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      Reply to the reviewers

      Reply to the Reviewers

      We sincerely thank the Referees for providing important and constructive comments. We have addressed their concerns point-by-point as described below.

      Associated to Reviewer#1's comments

      *- Diploid embryos are used as controls. Gynogenetic diploids seem to be better controls to ensure that the observed phenotypes are not related to loss of heterozygosity. To limit the amount of work, the use of gynogenetic diploids could be restricted to spindle polarity and centrosome number experiments. *

      Response 1-1

      __[Experimental plan] __Following the reviewer's suggestion, we will conduct immunostaining of a-tubulin and centrin (for visualizing the spindles and centrioles, respectively) in gynogenetic diploids that will be generated by applying heat shock to gynogenetic haploid embryos during the 1st - 2nd cleavage stage. We will observe the head area of gynogenetic diploid larvae at 3-dpf when the haploid counterparts suffer particularly drastic centrosome loss and spindle monopolarization.

      • *

      • *

      *- As the authors discuss, it would be necessary to rescue centrosome loss to establish a causal relationship between centrosome loss and haploid viability. I certainly acknowledge that this is difficult (if not impossible), but it currently limits the significance of the results. *

      Response 1-2

      We agree that rescuing centrosome loss would provide an important advancement in understanding the cause of haploid syndrome in the context of our study. However, as the reviewer also pointed out in the above comment, this poses a significant technical challenge. As described in Discussion in the original manuscript, we have attempted to restore normal centrosome number through cell cycle modulations. However, we have not found a condition that rescues centrosome loss without damaging larval viability. As an alternative approach, we have also tried to induce centriole amplification by injecting mRNA encoding plk4, an essential centriole duplication inducer. However, this caused earlier embryonic death, precluding us from observing its effects on larval morphology after 1 dpf. The main challenge is that any treatment to increase centrosome number can cause centrosome overduplication, which is as deleterious to development as centrosome loss. Efforts to identify a key factor enabling the rescue of centrosome loss in haploid larvae are underway in our laboratory, which requires new explorations over several years and is beyond the scope of the present study. Reflecting on the reviewer's comment, we added a new sentence explaining the situation on this issue (line 395, page 19). To further discuss possible contributions of centrosome loss and mitotic defects to haploidy-linked embryonic defects, we also added a citation of a previous study reporting that depletion of centrosomal proteins caused mitotic defects leading to embryonic defects similar to those observed in haploid embryos in zebrafish (Novorol et al., 2013 Open Biology; line 380, page 19).

      __[Experimental plan] __Meanwhile, as a new trial to induce centriole amplification in a scalable and temporally controllable manner, we plan the following experiment, which can be conducted within the time range of the revision schedule: We will investigate the effects of low dose treatment of a plk4 inhibitor centrinone B on tissue growth and viability of haploid larvae. A recent study reported that centrinone B had complicated effects on the centriole duplication process, which is highly dose-sensitive (Tkach et al., 2022 Elife, PMID: 35758262). While it blocks centriole duplication at sufficiently high concentrations for blocking plk4 activities, it paradoxically causes centriole amplification at suboptimal conditions, presumably though over-stabilizing plk4 by blocking its autophosphorylation-dependent degradation (while its centriole duplicating function remains active). Since a previous study showed that centrinone B is also effective in zebrafish embryos (Rathbun et al., 2020 Current Biology, PMID: 32916112), we try to find optimal centrinone B treatment condition that potentially restores tissue growth or viability of haploid embryos. If we find such a rescuing condition, we will address the principle of the rescuing effects by investigating the possession of centrioles in mitotic cells in these haploid larvae.

      *- Some experiments are not, or arguably, quantified/statistically analyzed. *

      o Figure 2, Active caspase level. Larvae are sorted into three categories, and no statistical test is performed on the obtained contingency table. A Fisher'*s exact test here, or much better, the active caspase-3 levels should be quantified, instead of sorting larvae into categories. *

      Response 1-3

      We apologize that we showed only "zoomed-out" images of the immunostained embryos in the original figures (Fig. 2A), which precluded a clear presentation of the haploidy-associated aggravation of apoptosis and mitotic arrest. We could clearly distinguish cleaved caspase-3- and pH3-positive cells from non-specific background staining with an enlarged view of the same immunostaining data. Therefore, to quantitatively evaluate the extent of the haploidy-linked apoptosis and mitotic arrest, we compared the density of these cells within the right midbrain. This new quantification demonstrated a statistically significant increase in cleaved caspase-3- or pH3-positive cells in haploids compared to diploids.

      In the revised manuscript, we added the enlarged views of cleaved-caspase and pH3 immunostaining (Fig. 2B) and new quantifications with statistical analyses (Fig. 2C). Accompanying these revisions, we omitted the categorization of the severeness of the apoptosis, which was pointed out to be subjective in the reviewer#2's comment (see Response 2-3). We rewrote the corresponding section of the manuscript to explain the new quantitative analyses (line 143, page 7).

      o Same comment for 3E-F. Larvae are scored as Scarce, Mild or Severe. Looking at Fig S3A, I see one mild p53MO embryo, but the two others are not that different from 'severe' cases, which would completely change the contingency table. Again, a proper quantification would be better.

      Response 1-4

      We also quantified the frequency of cleaved caspase-3-positive cells in control and p53MO larvae (original Fig. 3E and F) as described in Response 1-3. While conducting the cell counting with enlarged images, we realized that staining quality within the inner larval layers of morphants was relatively poor in these experiments. This problem precluded us from counting cleaved caspase-3-positive cells within the inner larval layers. Therefore, we tentatively quantified only the surface larval layers of these morphants and found that cleaved caspase-3-positive cells were significantly reduced in haploids upon depletion of p53. We currently show this quantification in Fig. 3G of the revised manuscript. While this quantification confirmed the trend of p53MO-dependent decrease in apoptosis, we think it more appropriate to newly conduct the same experiment with better quality of the staining to apply the same standard of quantification for Fig. 3 as Fig. 2.


      __[Experimental plan] __For the reason described above, we propose to re-conduct immunostaining of cleaved caspase-3 in control and p53MO-injected haploid larvae to improve the visibility of the inner layer of the larvae for better quality of the quantitation.

      Meanwhile, we revised Fig. 3 by adding an enlarged view of immunostaining in Fig. 3F and omitting the subjective categorization shown in the original Fig. 3F and S3A. We plan to replace these data with new images and quantification to be obtained during the next revision. We also rewrote the main text to update these changes (line 166, page 8).

      *o Figure 4D-E, no stats. *

      Response 1-5

      We conducted the ANOVA followed by the post-hoc Tukey test for new Fig. 4D and the Fisher exact test with Benjamini-Hochberg multiple testing correction for new Fig. 4E. Please note that statistical analyses were conducted after adding the data from original Fig. 6B-C following the reviewer's suggestion (see also Response 1-6).

      *o Figure 6, Reversine treated haploid should be compared to haploid embryos (on the graphs and statistically). If no specific controls have been quantified for this experiment, data could be reused from previous figures, provided this is stated. *

      Response 1-6

      The live imaging data shown in original Fig. 4C-E and Fig. 6A-C were obtained within the same experimental series conducted in parallel at the same period under the same experimental condition. In the original manuscript, we separated them into two different figures according to the logical flow. However, following the reviewers' comments (see also Response 2-1), we realized it more appropriate to show them as a single figure panel as in the original experimental design. Therefore, we moved the reversine-treated haploid data from the original Fig. 6A-C to Fig. 4C-E to facilitate direct comparison among conditions with statistical analyses (see also Response 1-5).

      *o Rescue by p53MO and Reversine, it would be nice to also include diploid measurements on the graphs, so that the reader can appreciate the extent of the rescue. *

      Response 1-7

      Following the reviewer's comment, we added control MO-injected or DMSO-treated diploid larval data in the corresponding graphs in Fig. 3I and 6G, respectively. Please refer to Response 2-6 for further discussion on the extent of the rescue.

      Minor comments:

      *- Lines 221-223, authors claim that centriole loss and spindle monopolarization commence earlier in the eyes and brain than in skin. I am note sure I see this in Fig. S5. It could as well be that the defect is less pronounced in skin. *

      Response 1-8

      We rewrote the manuscript to include the possible interpretation suggested by the reviewer on the result (line 225, page 11).

      • *

      - Lines 227-229, authors claim that 'The developmental stage when haploid larvae suffered the gradual aggravation of centrosome loss corresponded to the stage when larval cell size gradually decreased through successive cell divisions'. I did not get that. Doesn'*t cell size decrease since the first division? Fig 5D shows that cell size decreases all along development. *

      Response 1-9

      We agree that the original sentence implies, against our intention, that cell size does not decrease before the developmental stage mentioned here. To correct this problem, we rewrote the corresponding part of Discussion as below (line 230, page 11):

      "Since the first division, embryonic cell size continuously reduces through successive cell divisions during early development (Menon et al., 2020). Cell size reduction continued at the developmental stage when we observed the gradual aggravation of the centrosome loss in haploid larvae."

      *- Some correlations are used to draw conclusions: *

      o Line 301-303. "The correlation between centrosome loss and spindle monopolarization indicates that haploid larval cells fail to form bipolar spindle because of the haploidy-linked centrosome loss."*. As stated by the authors, this is a correlation only. I agree it points in this direction. *

      Response 1-10

      We added a note to the corresponding sentence to draw readers' attention to the discussion on the limitation of the study with respect to the lack of centrosome rescue experiment (line 332, page 16).

      O Line 305-308. "*Interestingly, centrosome loss occurred almost exclusively in haploid cells whose size became smaller than a certain border (Fig. 5), indicating that cell size is a key determinant of centrosome number homeostasis in the haploid state." This one is more problematic. There is no causal link established between cell size and centrosome number homeostasis. It could very well be that some unidentified problem induces both a reduction in cell size and the loss of centrioles. *

      Response 1-11

      To avoid an over-speculative description, we deleted the subsentence "indicating that cell size is a key determinant of centrosome number homeostasis in the haploid state." (line 336, page 17). We also added a new sentence, "Alternatively, it is also possible that other primary causes, such as the lack of second active allele producing sufficient protein pools induced cell size reduction and centrosome loss in parallel without causality between them." to discuss the possibility raised by the reviewer (line 348, page 17), in association with another comment from the reviewer #3 (see also Response 3-3).

      • *

      *I have concerns regarding the significance of the reported findings. Haploid zebrafish embryos show numerous developmental defects (some as early as gastrulation, as previously shown by the authors, Menon 2020), and they die by 4 dpf. That they experience massive apoptosis at day 3 does not seem very surprising, and that inhibiting p53 transiently improves the phenotype is not a big surprise. *

      Response 1-12

      Many reports have revealed tissue-level developmental abnormalities in haploid embryos since the discovery of haploid lethality in vertebrates more than 100 years ago. This has stimulated speculation of underlying causes of haploid intolerance for decades. However, there have been surprisingly few descriptions of cellular abnormalities underlying these tissue defects, precluding an evidence-based understanding of the principle that limits developmental ability in haploid embryos. Our findings of the haploidy-linked p53 upregulation and mitotic defects illustrate what happens in the dying haploid embryos at a cellular level. These findings would provide an evidence-based frame of reference for understanding why vertebrates cannot develop in the haploid state and also provide clues to controlling haploidy-linked embryonic defects in future studies. We added a new section in Discussion to discuss the importance of addressing the haploidy-linked defects at a cellular level (line 276, page 14).

      *This reminds me of the non-specific effects of morpholino injection, which can be partially rescued by knocking down p53. *

      Response 1-13

      We believe the reviewer refers to the previous findings that different morpholinos generally have off-target effects activating p53-mediated apoptosis (e.g., Robu et al., 2007 PLoS Genet, PMID:17530925). However, p53 upregulation and apoptosis aggravation were also observed in uninjected haploid embryos free from morpholinos' artificial effects (Fig. 2, Fig. 3A, and B). To further address this issue, we plan to compare the frequency of cleavage caspase-3-positive cells between uninjected and control MO-injected haploids after revising the immunostaining of morphants in the original Fig. 3E-F (see Response 1-4 for details).

      *The observation of mitotic arrest and mitotic defects and the observation that haploid cells often lack a centrosome is interesting. However, I felt that the manuscript suggested that these observations were novel and could explain the haploid syndrome specifically in non-mammalian embryos, when the authors reported the same observations in human haploid cells as well as in mouse haploid embryos (Yaguchi 2018). To me, this manuscript mainly confirms that their previous observation is not mammalian specific, but at least conserved in vertebrates. *

      Response 1-14

      As we originally wrote (line 341, page 17 in the original manuscript), we think these haploidy-linked cellular defects are conserved among mammalian and non-mammalian vertebrates. To improve the clarity of our interpretation, we rewrote a corresponding part of the manuscript (line 50, page 2).

      *While I am no expert at centrosome duplication, I find the observation that haploidy leads to centrosome loss very intriguing, but have the impression that this manuscript falls short of improving our understanding of this phenomenon. *

      Response 1-15

      We express our gratitude to the reviewer for being interested in our findings. We hope the revisions made in the manuscript and the new results provided by the planned experiments will strengthen the contribution of this study to our understanding of haploidy-linked cellular defects.

      • *

      • *

      Associated to Reviewer#2's comments

      - Lack of proper controls in many experiments. For example, in the experiments where the authors treated haploids with reversine to suppress the SAC, there was no no-treatment control (Fig. 6A-C).

      Response 2-1

      We addressed the same point in__ Response 1-6__. In the original manuscript, we separately presented control and experimental conditions in the same experiment series in Fig. 4 and Fig. 6. We rejoined them in Fig. 4 as in the original experimental design. Please refer to __Response 1-6 __for further details.

      • In Fig. 6D, when a DMSO control was included, the control fish were from 3 dpf while the reversine-treated fish were from 0.5-3 dpf. This is a big flaw in experimental design, especially considering the authors were looking at mitotic index, which is hugely impacted by developmental time. *

      Response 2-2

      In this experiment, we treated haploid larvae with either DMSO or reversine from 0.5 to 3 dpf, isolated cells from the larvae at 3 dpf, and subjected them to flow cytometry. Both DMSO- and reversine-treated larval cells were from 3-dpf larvae. Therefore, this experiment does not have the problem noted by the reviewer. To improve the clarity of the description of the experimental design, we rewrote the corresponding part of the figure legend (line 646, page 34).

      - Subjective and inadequate data quantification. In the immunostaining experiments to detect caspase-3 and pH3, the authors either did not quantify at all and only showed single micrographs that might or might not be representative (for pH3), or only did very subjective and unconvincing quantification (for caspase-3). Objective measurements of fluorescence intensity could have been done, but the authors instead chose to categorize the staining into arbitrary categories with unclear standards. In example images they showed in the supplementary data, it is not obvious at all why some of the samples were classified as "mild" and others as "*severe" when their staining did not appear to be very different. *

      Response 2-3

      We apologize that we showed only "zoomed-out" images of the immunostained embryos in the original figures (Fig. 2A, 3E, and 6F), in which the distribution of individual cleaved caspase-3- or pH3-positive cells could not be clearly recognized. We added the enlarged view of identical immunostaining where these cells were clearly visualized in a countable manner (Fig. 2B, 3F, and 6D). Following the reviewer's suggestion, we newly conducted quantification by comparing the density of these cells within the right midbrain in haploids and diploids.

      This new quantification demonstrated the haploidy-linked increase in cleaved caspase-3- or pH3-positive cells and a reversine-dependent decrease in pH3-positive cells. We added these new quantifications with statistical analyses to the revised manuscript (Fig. 2C and 6E). Accompanying these revisions, we omitted the categorization of the severeness of apoptosis, which was pointed out to be subjective. We rewrote the corresponding section of the manuscript to explain the new quantitative analyses (line 143, page 7; line 260, page 12).

      While we also quantified cleaved caspase-3-positive cells in control and p53MO larvae in the original Fig. 3E, we realized that the staining quality of the inner larval layers of these morphants was relatively poor and could not apply the same standard of quantification as Fig. 2. Though we confirmed a statistically significant reduction in cleaved caspase-3-positive cells upon p53 depletion by quantified limited number of confocal sections (shown in Fig. 3G, please see also Response 1-4 for details), we decided to re-conduct this experiment for improving the staining quality to apply the same criteria of quantification for Fig 3 as Fig. 2 (Experimental plan is provided in Response 1-4).

      Please note that we also tried to evaluate the extent of apoptosis and mitotic arrest based on the fluorescence intensity of organ areas. However, background staining outside the dead cell area precluded the precise quantification.

      Additionally, the authors claimed that "*clusters of apoptotic cells" were only present in haploids but not diploids or p53 MO haploids, but they did not show any quantification. From the few example images (Fig.S3A), apoptotic clusters can be seen in p53 MO treated fish. Also, in some cases, the clusters were visible only because those fish were mounted in an incorrect orientation. For example, in Fig. S3A, control #2, that fish was visualized from its side, thus exposing areas around its eye that contained such clusters. These areas are not visible in other images where the fish were visualized from the top. *

      __Response 2-4 __

      We agree that the definition of "apoptotic clusters" was ambiguous in the original manuscript. We also agree that the visuals of the clusters could be affected by sample conditions, making them less reliable criteria for judging the severity of apoptotic upregulation in larvae. Following the reviewer's suggestion, we newly conducted apoptotic cell counting (Response 2-3), which recapitulated more reliably ploidy- or condition-dependent changes in the extent of apoptosis. Therefore, we decided to omit the description of the clusters in the new version of the manuscript.

      *- Subpar data quality. Aside from issues with qualification, the IF data was not convincing as staining appeared to be inconsistent and uneven, with potential artefacts. *

      Response 2-5

      We apologize that the zoomed-out images in the original figures did not appropriately demonstrate the specific visualization of individual apoptotic or mitotic cells. As described in Response 2-3, we added enlarged views of the immunostaining to the revised manuscript, in which these individual cells are clearly distinguished from non-specific background staining (Fig. 2B, 3F, and 6D). Because of the poorer staining of inner layers of control and p53 morphants, we plan to re-conduct immunostaining for Fig. 3 and Fig. S3 (please refer to Response 1-4 for further detail). The current version of immunostaining and quantification in these figures will be replaced in the next revision.

      - Unsupported and overstated claims. There were many overstatements. For one, in line 268, the authors claimed that "*the haploidy-linked mitotic stress with SAC activation is a primary constraint for organ growth in haploid larvae", while what they were actually showed was that reversine treatment, which suppresses the SAC, was partially rescued 2 out of the 3 growth defects they assessed, to such a small extent that the difference between haploid and haploid rescue was only Response 2-6

      Following the reviewer's comment, we added control MO-injected or DMSO-treated diploid larval data in the corresponding graphs in Fig. 3I and 6G, respectively. We newly estimated the relative extent of the recovery in Results (line 174, page 8; line 268, page 13).

      Reflecting the estimation, we rewrote the manuscript to discuss that haploidy-linked cell death or mitotic defects are a partial cause of organ growth retardation but that there could be other unaddressed cellular defects that also contribute to the growth retardation (line 305, page 15). We also discussed the possibility that incomplete resolution of cell death by p53MO or mitotic defects by reversine treatment may have limited their rescue effects on organ growth retardation (line 303, page 15). We also toned down several descriptions in our manuscript (lines 48 and 50, page 2; line 111, page 5; line 271, page 13; line 298, page 15; line 403, page 20) to achieve a more balanced interpretation on the potential contributions of cell death and mitotic defects to the formation of haploid syndrome.

      In association with this issue, we also discussed the difficulty of assuming a priori "fully-rescued" haploid larval size in this context. This is because even normally developing haploid larvae in haplodiplontic species tend to be much smaller than their diploid counterparts. We newly cited a few cases of haplodiplontic species where haploids are smaller than or the same in size as diploids (line 307, page 15).

      *With so many fundamental flaws, the data seem unreliable and the paper does not meet publishable standards. *

      Response 2-7

      We express our gratitude to the reviewer for providing important suggestions to improve the quality of analyses, data presentations, and interpretations in this study. We sincerely hope that one-by-one verifications of the points raised by the reviewer have improved the credibility of the paper and made it suitable for publication.

      *The low quality of the analysis makes the significance low. *

      *Reviewers have expertise in vertebrate embryogenesis and ploidy manipulation. *

      Response 2-8

      We hope that by addressing and solving the concerns pointed out by the reviewer, we could have clarified the significance of the study.

      Associated to Reviewer#3's comments

      *There seem to be a discrepancy between the microscopic images from Figure 2A and the quantification of pH3 positive cells using flow cytometry in Figure 4. According to the flow cytometric results the proportion of pH3 positive cells is about 3 times higher in haploid larvae compared to the control. The increase in mitotic cells in the imaging results however seems much more drastic. It would be helpful if the authors explain here. *

      Response 3-1

      Following comments provided by other reviewers (see also Response 1-2, 1-4, and__ 2-3__), we newly compared the frequency of pH3 positive cells between the immunostained haploid and diploid larvae. In this new analysis, pH3-positive cells were 6.4 times more frequent in haploids than in diploids, which is a more substantial difference than the one estimated based on the flow cytometric analysis.

      The apparent discrepancy between the immunostaining and flow cytometric quantification would arise because pH3-positive mitotic cells tended to be more localized on the surface than in the inner region of larvae. This inevitably results in higher pH3-positive cell density in immunostaining, in which only larval surface is analyzed. To discuss this point, we newly conducted pH3 immunostaining in haploid larvae made transparent using RapiClear reagent and showed a vertical section of 3-d reconstituted larval image of pH3 immunostaining in Fig. S4E. We rewrote the manuscript to add our interpretation of this issue (line 652, page 34).

      *Mitotic slippage that the authors observe to be increased in the haploid larvae to up to 5% of cells should result in an increase in the number of aneuploid cells. I am wondering why this is not recapitulated in the analyses of the DNA content in Figure S1. *

      Response 3-2

      A possible interpretation would be that the limited viability of newly formed aneuploid progenies precluded the detection of these populations in flow cytometric analyses. We discussed the possible generation of aneuploid progenies with our interpretation of their absence in the flow cytometric analyses in Discussion (line 293, page 14).

      *Discussion: *

      *I find the explanation of centrosomal loss due to depletion of centrosomal protein pools in the cytoplasm during drastic cell reduction interesting. I wonder if the reduction in size is not necessarily caused by the reduction in cells, but rather the result of the absence of a second active allele that produces centrosomal proteins? *

      Response 3-3

      We added the possible interpretation provided by the reviewer to the corresponding part of Discussion, in association with another comment from reviewer #1 (line 348, page 17; see also Response 1-11).

      Reviewer #3 (Significance (Required)):

      • *

      *Overall, I find the study interesting even to a broader audience since diploid development is a fundamental feature of most animals. The authors also manage to discuss their findings on the consequences of haploidy in this bigger context of the restricted diploid development in animals. The study is very well-written even to non-experts. *

      Response 3-4

      We express our gratitude to the reviewer for providing positive comments on the significance of our findings. We sincerely hope that one-by-one verifications of the points raised by the reviewer further improve the quality of the paper.

      I am not an expert of the literature describing previous characterizations of the consequences associated with haploid cell development in animals, which is why I cannot comment on the novelty of their study. Based on my expertise on centromeres and genome organisation I can however assess the results regarding the mitotic defects observed in haploid larvae (see comments).

      Response 3-5

      We sincerely thank the reviewer for providing constructive suggestions and critiques based on the expertise.

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      • A hibridização explica fenómeno químico que ocorre quando orbitais atómicos incompletos se fundem para formar novos orbitais híbridos.
      • A hibridização aumenta o número de ligações covalentes que um átomo pode realizar e ajuda a explicar a geometria molecular e as propriedades de ligação de moléculas.
    1. tipos ideais ou tipos puros
      • O “Tipo Ideal” ou “Tipo Puro” é um critério tipológico e metodológico criado por Max Weber, e está relacionado ao conhecimento de valores e ideias do cientista social sobre o seu objeto de estudo, a sociedade. Trata-se assim de uma construção mental do sociólogo, que está ligado aos seus desejos, daí deriva o conceito de “ideal”, e por isso, não representa a realidade, mas um instrumento que colabore com os estudos.

      • O “Tipo Ideal” é um método que foca nos pares de tipo ao invés da pluralidade de tipos, para compreender o processo dialético da sociedade. Exemplos: pobres e ricos, bairros nobres e bairros operários, vestimentas rurais e vestimentas urbanas, entre outros.

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    1. Reviewer #1 (Public Review):

      Summary:

      C. elegans NHL-2 is a member of the conserved TRIM-NHL RNA binding protein family, with known functions in promoting small regulatory RNA function, including the conserved let-7 family microRNAs. Since NHL-2 promotes microRNA function, the authors seek to address if this function is due to direct binding of a mRNA target shared with the miRNA pathway. They successfully solve the crystal structure of NHL-2's NHL domain and discover residues Tyr935/Arg978 are required for RNA binding in vitro. In C. elegans, they establish that Tyr935/Arg978 are required for nhl-2 to promote let-7 microRNA function. Processing body (P body) size is increased in nhl-2 (Y935A R978A) and null mutants. The microRNA Argonautes, ALG-1 and ALG-2, also show increased binding to known let-7 mRNA targets in nhl-2 null mutants. Together these data suggest a lack of mRNA turnover in the absence of functional NHL-2. NHL-2 may function with CGH-1 and IFET-1 to promote let-7 miRISC function.

      Strengths:

      The authors successfully solve the structure of NHL-2's NHL domain. Although unable to crystalize it bound to RNA they are able to predict residues important for RNA binding based on charge, position and comparison with other known NHL domain structures crystalized with RNA. In vitro RNA binding assays confirm that Tyr935/Arg978 are required for RNA binding in vitro.

      Weaknesses:

      (1) In vivo, authors use a combination of established let-7 microRNA genetics and a 3' UTR reporter assay to establish that Tyr935/Arg978 are required for nhl-2 to promote let-7 microRNA function. However, they do not demonstrate that full length NHL-2 actually binds RNA directly in vivo in the Tyr935/Arg978 mutated background. While the presented genetic evidence suggests nhl(RBlf) acts much like the nhl-2 null, it is never demonstrated that full length NHL-2(RBlf) is actually RNA binding defective/dead in vivo. Yet several times in the text this is implied or stated. For example,<br /> o page 8, section title. "RNA binding is essential for NHL-2 function in heterochronic pathway"<br /> o page 9 - line 13-14. "Together, these data indicate that the RING and NHL domains are required for the normal function of NHL-2, but that the loss of RNA-binding activity has a more pronounced phenotype, suggesting that RNA-binding is critical for NHL-2 function."<br /> o page 11, line 3-4. "Together these experiments support the conclusion that... RNA binding is essential for its function"<br /> The language should be softened (e.g., page 8: "Residues required for RNA binding in vitro are required for NHL-2 function in heterochronic path") or additional experiments should be performed to support that NHL-2(RBlf) is in fact RNA binding defective/dead, like wild-type NHL-2 vs NHL-2(RBlf) RIP-qPCR for let-7 targets.

      (2) Authors report that Processing body (P body) size is dependent on nhl-2 and the Tyr935/Arg978 residues. microRNA Argonautes, ALG-1 and ALG-2, also show increased binding to known let-7 mRNA targets in nhl-2 null mutants (unfortunately requirement of Tyr935/Arg978 is not tested). However total levels of these mRNAs are unchanged. Authors propose these data together support a role for nhl-2 in promoting microRNA target turnover. Unfortunately, it is unclear how increased P body size with no observed increase of microRNA target levels are to be resolved.

      (3) The authors propose a model where NHL-2, CGH-1(DDX6) and IFET-1(eIF4E-transporter/4E-T) promote microRNA mediated translational repression and possibly turnover based on nhl-2-dependent IFET-1 interaction with ALG-1, cgh-1's synthetic interaction with both nhl-2 and ifet-1 to enhance let-7-mediated alae development, and conservation of known interactions between Dead Box helicases and eiF4A, which is supplemented by ALPHAFold modelling of IFET-1. The Boag lab previously characterized ifet-1 as a translational repressor required for germline P granule formation (Sengupta 2013 J Cell Sci). The role of NHL-2 RNA binding is unclear in this model as is any more molecular evidence of direct NHL-2, CGH-1 and IFET-1 interaction.

      (4) In Figure 5, adult nhl-2(ok818) worms express the mCherry when the putative NHL-2 binding sites in the lin-28 3'UTR reporter are mutated. Couldn't this be interpreted as suggesting that the observed phenotype is nhl-2 independent? The authors mention this as an "interesting" observation in text, but I find it concerning. The authors should address this issue more directly. The reporter expression data needs to be quantified.

      (5) I am frankly confused at the direction the manuscript takes in the Discussion section. The role of NHL-2 RNA binding, which has been the core of the paper, is seemingly disregarded and exchanged for what is mainly speculation about protein-protein level regulation with CGH-1 and IFET-1. This is all based on only a few pieces of data that do not include any analysis using the nhl-2(RBlf): nhl-2-dependent IFET-1 interaction with ALG-1, cgh-1's synthetic interaction with both nhl-2 and ifet-1 to enhance let-7-mediated alae development, and conservation of known interactions between Dead Box helicases and eiF4A, which is supplemented by ALPHAFold modelling of IFET-1. I'd strongly suggest reworking the text to better integrate IFET-1 or skip it and refocus the Discussion around the majority of the data characterizing NHL-2 RNA binding.

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    1. According to all known laws of aviation,

      there is no way a bee should be able to fly.

      Its wings are too small to get its fat little body off the ground.

      The bee, of course, flies anyway

      because bees don't care what humans think is impossible.

      Yellow, black. Yellow, black. Yellow, black. Yellow, black.

      Ooh, black and yellow! Let's shake it up a little.

      Barry! Breakfast is ready!

      Ooming!

      Hang on a second.

      Hello?

      Barry?

      Adam?

      Oan you believe this is happening?

      I can't. I'll pick you up.

      Looking sharp.

      Use the stairs. Your father paid good money for those.

      Sorry. I'm excited.

      Here's the graduate. We're very proud of you, son.

      A perfect report card, all B's.

      Very proud.

      Ma! I got a thing going here.

      You got lint on your fuzz.

      Ow! That's me!

      Wave to us! We'll be in row 118,000.

      Bye!

      Barry, I told you, stop flying in the house!

      Hey, Adam.

      Hey, Barry.

      Is that fuzz gel?

      A little. Special day, graduation.

      Never thought I'd make it.

      Three days grade school, three days high school.

      Those were awkward.

      Three days college. I'm glad I took a day and hitchhiked around the hive.

      You did come back different.

      Hi, Barry.

      Artie, growing a mustache? Looks good.

      Hear about Frankie?

      Yeah.

      You going to the funeral?

      No, I'm not going.

      Everybody knows, sting someone, you die.

      Don't waste it on a squirrel. Such a hothead.

      I guess he could have just gotten out of the way.

      I love this incorporating an amusement park into our day.

      That's why we don't need vacations.

      Boy, quite a bit of pomp… under the circumstances.

      Well, Adam, today we are men.

      We are!

      Bee-men.

      Amen!

      Hallelujah!

      Students, faculty, distinguished bees,

      please welcome Dean Buzzwell.

      Welcome, New Hive Oity graduating class of…

      …9:15.

      That concludes our ceremonies.

      And begins your career at Honex Industries!

      Will we pick ourjob today?

      I heard it's just orientation.

      Heads up! Here we go.

      Keep your hands and antennas inside the tram at all times.

      Wonder what it'll be like? A little scary. Welcome to Honex, a division of Honesco

      and a part of the Hexagon Group.

      This is it!

      Wow.

      Wow.

      We know that you, as a bee, have worked your whole life

      to get to the point where you can work for your whole life.

      Honey begins when our valiant Pollen Jocks bring the nectar to the hive.

      Our top-secret formula

      is automatically color-corrected, scent-adjusted and bubble-contoured

      into this soothing sweet syrup

      with its distinctive golden glow you know as…

      Honey!

      That girl was hot.

      She's my cousin!

      She is?

      Yes, we're all cousins.

      Right. You're right.

      At Honex, we constantly strive

      to improve every aspect of bee existence.

      These bees are stress-testing a new helmet technology.

      What do you think he makes? Not enough. Here we have our latest advancement, the Krelman.

      What does that do? Oatches that little strand of honey that hangs after you pour it. Saves us millions.

      Oan anyone work on the Krelman?

      Of course. Most bee jobs are small ones. But bees know

      that every small job, if it's done well, means a lot.

      But choose carefully

      because you'll stay in the job you pick for the rest of your life.

      The same job the rest of your life? I didn't know that.

      What's the difference?

      You'll be happy to know that bees, as a species, haven't had one day off

      in 27 million years.

      So you'll just work us to death?

      We'll sure try.

      Wow! That blew my mind!

      "What's the difference?" How can you say that?

      One job forever? That's an insane choice to have to make.

      I'm relieved. Now we only have to make one decision in life.

      But, Adam, how could they never have told us that?

      Why would you question anything? We're bees.

      We're the most perfectly functioning society on Earth.

      You ever think maybe things work a little too well here?

      Like what? Give me one example.

      I don't know. But you know what I'm talking about.

      Please clear the gate. Royal Nectar Force on approach.

      Wait a second. Oheck it out.

      Hey, those are Pollen Jocks! Wow. I've never seen them this close.

      They know what it's like outside the hive.

      Yeah, but some don't come back.

      Hey, Jocks! Hi, Jocks! You guys did great!

      You're monsters! You're sky freaks! I love it! I love it!

      I wonder where they were. I don't know. Their day's not planned.

      Outside the hive, flying who knows where, doing who knows what.

      You can'tjust decide to be a Pollen Jock. You have to be bred for that.

      Right.

      Look. That's more pollen than you and I will see in a lifetime.

      It's just a status symbol. Bees make too much of it.

      Perhaps. Unless you're wearing it and the ladies see you wearing it.

      Those ladies? Aren't they our cousins too?

      Distant. Distant.

      Look at these two.

      Oouple of Hive Harrys. Let's have fun with them. It must be dangerous being a Pollen Jock.

      Yeah. Once a bear pinned me against a mushroom!

      He had a paw on my throat, and with the other, he was slapping me!

      Oh, my! I never thought I'd knock him out. What were you doing during this?

      Trying to alert the authorities.

      I can autograph that.

      A little gusty out there today, wasn't it, comrades?

      Yeah. Gusty.

      We're hitting a sunflower patch six miles from here tomorrow.

      Six miles, huh? Barry! A puddle jump for us, but maybe you're not up for it.

      Maybe I am. You are not! We're going 0900 at J-Gate.

      What do you think, buzzy-boy? Are you bee enough?

      I might be. It all depends on what 0900 means.

      Hey, Honex!

      Dad, you surprised me.

      You decide what you're interested in?

      Well, there's a lot of choices. But you only get one. Do you ever get bored doing the same job every day?

      Son, let me tell you about stirring.

      You grab that stick, and you just move it around, and you stir it around.

      You get yourself into a rhythm. It's a beautiful thing.

      You know, Dad, the more I think about it,

      maybe the honey field just isn't right for me.

      You were thinking of what, making balloon animals?

      That's a bad job for a guy with a stinger.

      Janet, your son's not sure he wants to go into honey!

      Barry, you are so funny sometimes. I'm not trying to be funny. You're not funny! You're going into honey. Our son, the stirrer!

      You're gonna be a stirrer? No one's listening to me! Wait till you see the sticks I have.

      I could say anything right now. I'm gonna get an ant tattoo!

      Let's open some honey and celebrate!

      Maybe I'll pierce my thorax. Shave my antennae.

      Shack up with a grasshopper. Get a gold tooth and call everybody "dawg"!

      I'm so proud.

      We're starting work today! Today's the day. Oome on! All the good jobs will be gone.

      Yeah, right.

      Pollen counting, stunt bee, pouring, stirrer, front desk, hair removal…

      Is it still available? Hang on. Two left! One of them's yours! Oongratulations! Step to the side.

      What'd you get? Picking crud out. Stellar! Wow!

      Oouple of newbies?

      Yes, sir! Our first day! We are ready!

      Make your choice.

      You want to go first? No, you go. Oh, my. What's available?

      Restroom attendant's open, not for the reason you think.

      Any chance of getting the Krelman? Sure, you're on. I'm sorry, the Krelman just closed out.

      Wax monkey's always open.

      The Krelman opened up again.

      What happened?

      A bee died. Makes an opening. See? He's dead. Another dead one.

      Deady. Deadified. Two more dead.

      Dead from the neck up. Dead from the neck down. That's life!

      Oh, this is so hard!

      Heating, cooling, stunt bee, pourer, stirrer,

      humming, inspector number seven, lint coordinator, stripe supervisor,

      mite wrangler. Barry, what do you think I should… Barry?

      Barry!

      All right, we've got the sunflower patch in quadrant nine…

      What happened to you? Where are you?

      I'm going out.

      Out? Out where?

      Out there.

      Oh, no!

      I have to, before I go to work for the rest of my life.

      You're gonna die! You're crazy! Hello?

      Another call coming in.

      If anyone's feeling brave, there's a Korean deli on 83rd

      that gets their roses today.

      Hey, guys.

      Look at that. Isn't that the kid we saw yesterday? Hold it, son, flight deck's restricted.

      It's OK, Lou. We're gonna take him up.

      Really? Feeling lucky, are you?

      Sign here, here. Just initial that.

      Thank you. OK. You got a rain advisory today,

      and as you all know, bees cannot fly in rain.

      So be careful. As always, watch your brooms,

      hockey sticks, dogs, birds, bears and bats.

      Also, I got a couple of reports of root beer being poured on us.

      Murphy's in a home because of it, babbling like a cicada!

      That's awful. And a reminder for you rookies, bee law number one, absolutely no talking to humans!

      All right, launch positions!

      Buzz, buzz, buzz, buzz! Buzz, buzz, buzz, buzz! Buzz, buzz, buzz, buzz!

      Black and yellow!

      Hello!

      You ready for this, hot shot?

      Yeah. Yeah, bring it on.

      Wind, check.

      Antennae, check.

      Nectar pack, check.

      Wings, check.

      Stinger, check.

      Scared out of my shorts, check.

      OK, ladies,

      let's move it out!

      Pound those petunias, you striped stem-suckers!

      All of you, drain those flowers!

      Wow! I'm out!

      I can't believe I'm out!

      So blue.

      I feel so fast and free!

      Box kite!

      Wow!

      Flowers!

      This is Blue Leader. We have roses visual.

      Bring it around 30 degrees and hold.

      Roses!

      30 degrees, roger. Bringing it around.

      Stand to the side, kid. It's got a bit of a kick.

      That is one nectar collector!

      Ever see pollination up close? No, sir. I pick up some pollen here, sprinkle it over here. Maybe a dash over there,

      a pinch on that one. See that? It's a little bit of magic.

      That's amazing. Why do we do that?

      That's pollen power. More pollen, more flowers, more nectar, more honey for us.

      Oool.

      I'm picking up a lot of bright yellow. Oould be daisies. Don't we need those?

      Oopy that visual.

      Wait. One of these flowers seems to be on the move.

      Say again? You're reporting a moving flower?

      Affirmative.

      That was on the line!

      This is the coolest. What is it?

      I don't know, but I'm loving this color.

      It smells good. Not like a flower, but I like it.

      Yeah, fuzzy.

      Ohemical-y.

      Oareful, guys. It's a little grabby.

      My sweet lord of bees!

      Oandy-brain, get off there!

      Problem!

      Guys! This could be bad. Affirmative.

      Very close.

      Gonna hurt.

      Mama's little boy.

      You are way out of position, rookie!

      Ooming in at you like a missile!

      Help me!

      I don't think these are flowers.

      Should we tell him? I think he knows. What is this?!

      Match point!

      You can start packing up, honey, because you're about to eat it!

      Yowser!

      Gross.

      There's a bee in the car!

      Do something!

      I'm driving!

      Hi, bee.

      He's back here!

      He's going to sting me!

      Nobody move. If you don't move, he won't sting you. Freeze!

      He blinked!

      Spray him, Granny!

      What are you doing?!

      Wow… the tension level out here is unbelievable.

      I gotta get home.

      Oan't fly in rain.

      Oan't fly in rain.

      Oan't fly in rain.

      Mayday! Mayday! Bee going down!

      Ken, could you close the window please?

      Ken, could you close the window please?

      Oheck out my new resume. I made it into a fold-out brochure.

      You see? Folds out.

      Oh, no. More humans. I don't need this.

      What was that?

      Maybe this time. This time. This time. This time! This time! This…

      Drapes!

      That is diabolical.

      It's fantastic. It's got all my special skills, even my top-ten favorite movies.

      What's number one? Star Wars?

      Nah, I don't go for that…

      …kind of stuff.

      No wonder we shouldn't talk to them. They're out of their minds.

      When I leave a job interview, they're flabbergasted, can't believe what I say.

      There's the sun. Maybe that's a way out.

      I don't remember the sun having a big 75 on it.

      I predicted global warming.

      I could feel it getting hotter. At first I thought it was just me.

      Wait! Stop! Bee!

      Stand back. These are winter boots.

      Wait!

      Don't kill him!

      You know I'm allergic to them! This thing could kill me!

      Why does his life have less value than yours?

      Why does his life have any less value than mine? Is that your statement?

      I'm just saying all life has value. You don't know what he's capable of feeling.

      My brochure!

      There you go, little guy.

      I'm not scared of him. It's an allergic thing.

      Put that on your resume brochure.

      My whole face could puff up.

      Make it one of your special skills.

      Knocking someone out is also a special skill.

      Right. Bye, Vanessa. Thanks.

      Vanessa, next week? Yogurt night?

      Sure, Ken. You know, whatever.

      You could put carob chips on there.

      Bye.

      Supposed to be less calories.

      Bye.

      I gotta say something.

      She saved my life. I gotta say something.

      All right, here it goes.

      Nah.

      What would I say?

      I could really get in trouble.

      It's a bee law. You're not supposed to talk to a human.

      I can't believe I'm doing this.

      I've got to.

      Oh, I can't do it. Oome on!

      No. Yes. No.

      Do it. I can't.

      How should I start it? "You like jazz?" No, that's no good.

      Here she comes! Speak, you fool!

      Hi!

      I'm sorry.

      You're talking. Yes, I know. You're talking!

      I'm so sorry.

      No, it's OK. It's fine. I know I'm dreaming.

      But I don't recall going to bed.

      Well, I'm sure this is very disconcerting.

      This is a bit of a surprise to me. I mean, you're a bee!

      I am. And I'm not supposed to be doing this,

      but they were all trying to kill me.

      And if it wasn't for you…

      I had to thank you. It's just how I was raised.

      That was a little weird.

      I'm talking with a bee. Yeah. I'm talking to a bee. And the bee is talking to me!

      I just want to say I'm grateful. I'll leave now.

      Wait! How did you learn to do that? What? The talking thing.

      Same way you did, I guess. "Mama, Dada, honey." You pick it up.

      That's very funny. Yeah. Bees are funny. If we didn't laugh, we'd cry with what we have to deal with.

      Anyway…

      Oan I…

      …get you something?

      Like what? I don't know. I mean… I don't know. Ooffee?

      I don't want to put you out.

      It's no trouble. It takes two minutes.

      It's just coffee.

      I hate to impose.

      Don't be ridiculous!

      Actually, I would love a cup.

      Hey, you want rum cake?

      I shouldn't.

      Have some.

      No, I can't.

      Oome on!

      I'm trying to lose a couple micrograms.

      Where? These stripes don't help. You look great!

      I don't know if you know anything about fashion.

      Are you all right?

      No.

      He's making the tie in the cab as they're flying up Madison.

      He finally gets there.

      He runs up the steps into the church. The wedding is on.

      And he says, "Watermelon? I thought you said Guatemalan.

      Why would I marry a watermelon?"

      Is that a bee joke?

      That's the kind of stuff we do.

      Yeah, different.

      So, what are you gonna do, Barry?

      About work? I don't know.

      I want to do my part for the hive, but I can't do it the way they want.

      I know how you feel.

      You do? Sure. My parents wanted me to be a lawyer or a doctor, but I wanted to be a florist.

      Really? My only interest is flowers. Our new queen was just elected with that same campaign slogan.

      Anyway, if you look…

      There's my hive right there. See it?

      You're in Sheep Meadow!

      Yes! I'm right off the Turtle Pond!

      No way! I know that area. I lost a toe ring there once.

      Why do girls put rings on their toes?

      Why not?

      It's like putting a hat on your knee.

      Maybe I'll try that.

      You all right, ma'am?

      Oh, yeah. Fine.

      Just having two cups of coffee!

      Anyway, this has been great. Thanks for the coffee.

      Yeah, it's no trouble.

      Sorry I couldn't finish it. If I did, I'd be up the rest of my life.

      Are you…?

      Oan I take a piece of this with me?

      Sure! Here, have a crumb.

      Thanks! Yeah. All right. Well, then… I guess I'll see you around.

      Or not.

      OK, Barry.

      And thank you so much again… for before.

      Oh, that? That was nothing.

      Well, not nothing, but… Anyway…

      This can't possibly work.

      He's all set to go. We may as well try it.

      OK, Dave, pull the chute.

      Sounds amazing. It was amazing! It was the scariest, happiest moment of my life.

      Humans! I can't believe you were with humans!

      Giant, scary humans! What were they like?

      Huge and crazy. They talk crazy.

      They eat crazy giant things. They drive crazy.

      Do they try and kill you, like on TV?

      Some of them. But some of them don't.

      How'd you get back?

      Poodle.

      You did it, and I'm glad. You saw whatever you wanted to see.

      You had your "experience." Now you can pick out yourjob and be normal.

      Well… Well? Well, I met someone.

      You did? Was she Bee-ish?

      A wasp?! Your parents will kill you!

      No, no, no, not a wasp.

      Spider?

      I'm not attracted to spiders.

      I know it's the hottest thing, with the eight legs and all.

      I can't get by that face.

      So who is she?

      She's… human.

      No, no. That's a bee law. You wouldn't break a bee law.

      Her name's Vanessa. Oh, boy. She's so nice. And she's a florist!

      Oh, no! You're dating a human florist!

      We're not dating.

      You're flying outside the hive, talking to humans that attack our homes

      with power washers and M-80s! One-eighth a stick of dynamite!

      She saved my life! And she understands me.

      This is over!

      Eat this.

      This is not over! What was that?

      They call it a crumb. It was so stingin' stripey! And that's not what they eat. That's what falls off what they eat!

      You know what a Oinnabon is? No. It's bread and cinnamon and frosting. They heat it up…

      Sit down!

      …really hot!

      Listen to me! We are not them! We're us. There's us and there's them!

      Yes, but who can deny the heart that is yearning?

      There's no yearning. Stop yearning. Listen to me!

      You have got to start thinking bee, my friend. Thinking bee!

      Thinking bee. Thinking bee. Thinking bee! Thinking bee! Thinking bee! Thinking bee!

      There he is. He's in the pool.

      You know what your problem is, Barry?

      I gotta start thinking bee?

      How much longer will this go on?

      It's been three days! Why aren't you working?

      I've got a lot of big life decisions to think about.

      What life? You have no life! You have no job. You're barely a bee!

      Would it kill you to make a little honey?

      Barry, come out. Your father's talking to you.

      Martin, would you talk to him?

      Barry, I'm talking to you!

      You coming?

      Got everything?

      All set!

      Go ahead. I'll catch up.

      Don't be too long.

      Watch this!

      Vanessa!

      We're still here. I told you not to yell at him. He doesn't respond to yelling!

      Then why yell at me? Because you don't listen! I'm not listening to this.

      Sorry, I've gotta go.

      Where are you going? I'm meeting a friend. A girl? Is this why you can't decide?

      Bye.

      I just hope she's Bee-ish.

      They have a huge parade of flowers every year in Pasadena?

      To be in the Tournament of Roses, that's every florist's dream!

      Up on a float, surrounded by flowers, crowds cheering.

      A tournament. Do the roses compete in athletic events?

      No. All right, I've got one. How come you don't fly everywhere?

      It's exhausting. Why don't you run everywhere? It's faster.

      Yeah, OK, I see, I see. All right, your turn.

      TiVo. You can just freeze live TV? That's insane!

      You don't have that?

      We have Hivo, but it's a disease. It's a horrible, horrible disease.

      Oh, my.

      Dumb bees!

      You must want to sting all those jerks.

      We try not to sting. It's usually fatal for us.

      So you have to watch your temper.

      Very carefully. You kick a wall, take a walk,

      write an angry letter and throw it out. Work through it like any emotion:

      Anger, jealousy, lust.

      Oh, my goodness! Are you OK?

      Yeah.

      What is wrong with you?! It's a bug. He's not bothering anybody. Get out of here, you creep!

      What was that? A Pic 'N' Save circular?

      Yeah, it was. How did you know?

      It felt like about 10 pages. Seventy-five is pretty much our limit.

      You've really got that down to a science.

      I lost a cousin to Italian Vogue. I'll bet. What in the name of Mighty Hercules is this?

      How did this get here? Oute Bee, Golden Blossom,

      Ray Liotta Private Select?

      Is he that actor?

      I never heard of him.

      Why is this here?

      For people. We eat it.

      You don't have enough food of your own?

      Well, yes.

      How do you get it?

      Bees make it.

      I know who makes it!

      And it's hard to make it!

      There's heating, cooling, stirring. You need a whole Krelman thing!

      It's organic. It's our-ganic! It's just honey, Barry.

      Just what?!

      Bees don't know about this! This is stealing! A lot of stealing!

      You've taken our homes, schools, hospitals! This is all we have!

      And it's on sale?! I'm getting to the bottom of this.

      I'm getting to the bottom of all of this!

      Hey, Hector.

      You almost done? Almost. He is here. I sense it.

      Well, I guess I'll go home now

      and just leave this nice honey out, with no one around.

      You're busted, box boy!

      I knew I heard something. So you can talk!

      I can talk. And now you'll start talking!

      Where you getting the sweet stuff? Who's your supplier?

      I don't understand. I thought we were friends.

      The last thing we want to do is upset bees!

      You're too late! It's ours now!

      You, sir, have crossed the wrong sword!

      You, sir, will be lunch for my iguana, Ignacio!

      Where is the honey coming from?

      Tell me where!

      Honey Farms! It comes from Honey Farms!

      Orazy person!

      What horrible thing has happened here?

      These faces, they never knew what hit them. And now

      they're on the road to nowhere!

      Just keep still.

      What? You're not dead?

      Do I look dead? They will wipe anything that moves. Where you headed?

      To Honey Farms. I am onto something huge here.

      I'm going to Alaska. Moose blood, crazy stuff. Blows your head off!

      I'm going to Tacoma.

      And you? He really is dead. All right.

      Uh-oh!

      What is that?!

      Oh, no!

      A wiper! Triple blade!

      Triple blade?

      Jump on! It's your only chance, bee!

      Why does everything have to be so doggone clean?!

      How much do you people need to see?!

      Open your eyes! Stick your head out the window!

      From NPR News in Washington, I'm Oarl Kasell.

      But don't kill no more bugs!

      Bee!

      Moose blood guy!!

      You hear something?

      Like what?

      Like tiny screaming.

      Turn off the radio.

      Whassup, bee boy?

      Hey, Blood.

      Just a row of honey jars, as far as the eye could see.

      Wow!

      I assume wherever this truck goes is where they're getting it.

      I mean, that honey's ours.

      Bees hang tight. We're all jammed in. It's a close community.

      Not us, man. We on our own. Every mosquito on his own.

      What if you get in trouble? You a mosquito, you in trouble. Nobody likes us. They just smack. See a mosquito, smack, smack!

      At least you're out in the world. You must meet girls.

      Mosquito girls try to trade up, get with a moth, dragonfly.

      Mosquito girl don't want no mosquito.

      You got to be kidding me!

      Mooseblood's about to leave the building! So long, bee!

      Hey, guys! Mooseblood! I knew I'd catch y'all down here. Did you bring your crazy straw?

      We throw it in jars, slap a label on it, and it's pretty much pure profit.

      What is this place?

      A bee's got a brain the size of a pinhead.

      They are pinheads!

      Pinhead.

      Oheck out the new smoker. Oh, sweet. That's the one you want. The Thomas 3000!

      Smoker?

      Ninety puffs a minute, semi-automatic. Twice the nicotine, all the tar.

      A couple breaths of this knocks them right out.

      They make the honey, and we make the money.

      "They make the honey, and we make the money"?

      Oh, my!

      What's going on? Are you OK?

      Yeah. It doesn't last too long.

      Do you know you're in a fake hive with fake walls?

      Our queen was moved here. We had no choice.

      This is your queen? That's a man in women's clothes!

      That's a drag queen!

      What is this?

      Oh, no!

      There's hundreds of them!

      Bee honey.

      Our honey is being brazenly stolen on a massive scale!

      This is worse than anything bears have done! I intend to do something.

      Oh, Barry, stop.

      Who told you humans are taking our honey? That's a rumor.

      Do these look like rumors?

      That's a conspiracy theory. These are obviously doctored photos.

      How did you get mixed up in this?

      He's been talking to humans.

      What? Talking to humans?! He has a human girlfriend. And they make out!

      Make out? Barry!

      We do not.

      You wish you could. Whose side are you on? The bees!

      I dated a cricket once in San Antonio. Those crazy legs kept me up all night.

      Barry, this is what you want to do with your life?

      I want to do it for all our lives. Nobody works harder than bees!

      Dad, I remember you coming home so overworked

      your hands were still stirring. You couldn't stop.

      I remember that.

      What right do they have to our honey?

      We live on two cups a year. They put it in lip balm for no reason whatsoever!

      Even if it's true, what can one bee do?

      Sting them where it really hurts.

      In the face! The eye!

      That would hurt. No. Up the nose? That's a killer.

      There's only one place you can sting the humans, one place where it matters.

      Hive at Five, the hive's only full-hour action news source.

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      With Bob Bumble at the anchor desk.

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      And Jeanette Ohung.

      Good evening. I'm Bob Bumble. And I'm Jeanette Ohung. A tri-county bee, Barry Benson,

      intends to sue the human race for stealing our honey,

      packaging it and profiting from it illegally!

      Tomorrow night on Bee Larry King,

      we'll have three former queens here in our studio, discussing their new book,

      Olassy Ladies, out this week on Hexagon.

      Tonight we're talking to Barry Benson.

      Did you ever think, "I'm a kid from the hive. I can't do this"?

      Bees have never been afraid to change the world.

      What about Bee Oolumbus? Bee Gandhi? Bejesus?

      Where I'm from, we'd never sue humans.

      We were thinking of stickball or candy stores.

      How old are you?

      The bee community is supporting you in this case,

      which will be the trial of the bee century.

      You know, they have a Larry King in the human world too.

      It's a common name. Next week…

      He looks like you and has a show and suspenders and colored dots…

      Next week…

      Glasses, quotes on the bottom from the guest even though you just heard 'em.

      Bear Week next week! They're scary, hairy and here live.

      Always leans forward, pointy shoulders, squinty eyes, very Jewish.

      In tennis, you attack at the point of weakness!

      It was my grandmother, Ken. She's 81.

      Honey, her backhand's a joke! I'm not gonna take advantage of that?

      Quiet, please. Actual work going on here.

      Is that that same bee? Yes, it is! I'm helping him sue the human race.

      Hello. Hello, bee. This is Ken.

      Yeah, I remember you. Timberland, size ten and a half. Vibram sole, I believe.

      Why does he talk again?

      Listen, you better go 'cause we're really busy working.

      But it's our yogurt night!

      Bye-bye.

      Why is yogurt night so difficult?!

      You poor thing. You two have been at this for hours!

      Yes, and Adam here has been a huge help.

      Frosting… How many sugars? Just one. I try not to use the competition.

      So why are you helping me?

      Bees have good qualities.

      And it takes my mind off the shop.

      Instead of flowers, people are giving balloon bouquets now.

      Those are great, if you're three.

      And artificial flowers.

      Oh, those just get me psychotic! Yeah, me too. Bent stingers, pointless pollination.

      Bees must hate those fake things!

      Nothing worse than a daffodil that's had work done.

      Maybe this could make up for it a little bit.

      This lawsuit's a pretty big deal. I guess. You sure you want to go through with it?

      Am I sure? When I'm done with the humans, they won't be able

      to say, "Honey, I'm home," without paying a royalty!

      It's an incredible scene here in downtown Manhattan,

      where the world anxiously waits, because for the first time in history,

      we will hear for ourselves if a honeybee can actually speak.

      What have we gotten into here, Barry?

      It's pretty big, isn't it?

      I can't believe how many humans don't work during the day.

      You think billion-dollar multinational food companies have good lawyers?

      Everybody needs to stay behind the barricade.

      What's the matter? I don't know, I just got a chill. Well, if it isn't the bee team.

      You boys work on this?

      All rise! The Honorable Judge Bumbleton presiding.

      All right. Oase number 4475,

      Superior Oourt of New York, Barry Bee Benson v. the Honey Industry

      is now in session.

      Mr. Montgomery, you're representing the five food companies collectively?

      A privilege.

      Mr. Benson… you're representing all the bees of the world?

      I'm kidding. Yes, Your Honor, we're ready to proceed.

      Mr. Montgomery, your opening statement, please.

      Ladies and gentlemen of the jury,

      my grandmother was a simple woman.

      Born on a farm, she believed it was man's divine right

      to benefit from the bounty of nature God put before us.

      If we lived in the topsy-turvy world Mr. Benson imagines,

      just think of what would it mean.

      I would have to negotiate with the silkworm

      for the elastic in my britches!

      Talking bee!

      How do we know this isn't some sort of

      holographic motion-picture-capture Hollywood wizardry?

      They could be using laser beams!

      Robotics! Ventriloquism! Oloning! For all we know,

      he could be on steroids!

      Mr. Benson?

      Ladies and gentlemen, there's no trickery here.

      I'm just an ordinary bee. Honey's pretty important to me.

      It's important to all bees. We invented it!

      We make it. And we protect it with our lives.

      Unfortunately, there are some people in this room

      who think they can take it from us

      'cause we're the little guys! I'm hoping that, after this is all over,

      you'll see how, by taking our honey, you not only take everything we have

      but everything we are!

      I wish he'd dress like that all the time. So nice!

      Oall your first witness.

      So, Mr. Klauss Vanderhayden of Honey Farms, big company you have.

      I suppose so.

      I see you also own Honeyburton and Honron!

      Yes, they provide beekeepers for our farms.

      Beekeeper. I find that to be a very disturbing term.

      I don't imagine you employ any bee-free-ers, do you?

      No.

      I couldn't hear you.

      No.

      No.

      Because you don't free bees. You keep bees. Not only that,

      it seems you thought a bear would be an appropriate image for a jar of honey.

      They're very lovable creatures.

      Yogi Bear, Fozzie Bear, Build-A-Bear.

      You mean like this?

      Bears kill bees!

      How'd you like his head crashing through your living room?!

      Biting into your couch! Spitting out your throw pillows!

      OK, that's enough. Take him away.

      So, Mr. Sting, thank you for being here. Your name intrigues me.

      Where have I heard it before? I was with a band called The Police. But you've never been a police officer, have you?

      No, I haven't.

      No, you haven't. And so here we have yet another example

      of bee culture casually stolen by a human

      for nothing more than a prance-about stage name.

      Oh, please.

      Have you ever been stung, Mr. Sting?

      Because I'm feeling a little stung, Sting.

      Or should I say… Mr. Gordon M. Sumner!

      That's not his real name?! You idiots!

      Mr. Liotta, first, belated congratulations on

      your Emmy win for a guest spot on ER in 2005.

      Thank you. Thank you.

      I see from your resume that you're devilishly handsome

      with a churning inner turmoil that's ready to blow.

      I enjoy what I do. Is that a crime?

      Not yet it isn't. But is this what it's come to for you?

      Exploiting tiny, helpless bees so you don't

      have to rehearse your part and learn your lines, sir?

      Watch it, Benson! I could blow right now!

      This isn't a goodfella. This is a badfella!

      Why doesn't someone just step on this creep, and we can all go home?!

      Order in this court! You're all thinking it! Order! Order, I say!

      Say it! Mr. Liotta, please sit down! I think it was awfully nice of that bear to pitch in like that.

      I think the jury's on our side.

      Are we doing everything right, legally?

      I'm a florist.

      Right. Well, here's to a great team.

      To a great team!

      Well, hello.

      Ken! Hello. I didn't think you were coming.

      No, I was just late. I tried to call, but… the battery.

      I didn't want all this to go to waste, so I called Barry. Luckily, he was free.

      Oh, that was lucky.

      There's a little left. I could heat it up.

      Yeah, heat it up, sure, whatever.

      So I hear you're quite a tennis player.

      I'm not much for the game myself. The ball's a little grabby.

      That's where I usually sit. Right… there.

      Ken, Barry was looking at your resume,

      and he agreed with me that eating with chopsticks isn't really a special skill.

      You think I don't see what you're doing?

      I know how hard it is to find the rightjob. We have that in common.

      Do we?

      Bees have 100 percent employment, but we do jobs like taking the crud out.

      That's just what I was thinking about doing.

      Ken, I let Barry borrow your razor for his fuzz. I hope that was all right.

      I'm going to drain the old stinger.

      Yeah, you do that.

      Look at that.

      You know, I've just about had it

      with your little mind games.

      What's that? Italian Vogue. Mamma mia, that's a lot of pages.

      A lot of ads.

      Remember what Van said, why is your life more valuable than mine?

      Funny, I just can't seem to recall that!

      I think something stinks in here!

      I love the smell of flowers.

      How do you like the smell of flames?!

      Not as much.

      Water bug! Not taking sides!

      Ken, I'm wearing a Ohapstick hat! This is pathetic!

      I've got issues!

      Well, well, well, a royal flush!

      You're bluffing. Am I? Surf's up, dude!

      Poo water!

      That bowl is gnarly.

      Except for those dirty yellow rings!

      Kenneth! What are you doing?!

      You know, I don't even like honey! I don't eat it!

      We need to talk!

      He's just a little bee!

      And he happens to be the nicest bee I've met in a long time!

      Long time? What are you talking about?! Are there other bugs in your life?

      No, but there are other things bugging me in life. And you're one of them!

      Fine! Talking bees, no yogurt night…

      My nerves are fried from riding on this emotional roller coaster!

      Goodbye, Ken.

      And for your information,

      I prefer sugar-free, artificial sweeteners made by man!

      I'm sorry about all that.

      I know it's got an aftertaste! I like it!

      I always felt there was some kind of barrier between Ken and me.

      I couldn't overcome it. Oh, well.

      Are you OK for the trial?

      I believe Mr. Montgomery is about out of ideas.

      We would like to call Mr. Barry Benson Bee to the stand.

      Good idea! You can really see why he's considered one of the best lawyers…

      Yeah.

      Layton, you've gotta weave some magic

      with this jury, or it's gonna be all over.

      Don't worry. The only thing I have to do to turn this jury around

      is to remind them of what they don't like about bees.

      You got the tweezers? Are you allergic? Only to losing, son. Only to losing.

      Mr. Benson Bee, I'll ask you what I think we'd all like to know.

      What exactly is your relationship

      to that woman?

      We're friends.

      Good friends? Yes. How good? Do you live together?

      Wait a minute…

      Are you her little…

      …bedbug?

      I've seen a bee documentary or two. From what I understand,

      doesn't your queen give birth to all the bee children?

      Yeah, but…

      So those aren't your real parents!

      Oh, Barry…

      Yes, they are!

      Hold me back!

      You're an illegitimate bee, aren't you, Benson?

      He's denouncing bees!

      Don't y'all date your cousins?

      Objection! I'm going to pincushion this guy! Adam, don't! It's what he wants!

      Oh, I'm hit!!

      Oh, lordy, I am hit!

      Order! Order!

      The venom! The venom is coursing through my veins!

      I have been felled by a winged beast of destruction!

      You see? You can't treat them like equals! They're striped savages!

      Stinging's the only thing they know! It's their way!

      Adam, stay with me. I can't feel my legs. What angel of mercy will come forward to suck the poison

      from my heaving buttocks?

      I will have order in this court. Order!

      Order, please!

      The case of the honeybees versus the human race

      took a pointed turn against the bees

      yesterday when one of their legal team stung Layton T. Montgomery.

      Hey, buddy.

      Hey.

      Is there much pain?

      Yeah.

      I…

      I blew the whole case, didn't I?

      It doesn't matter. What matters is you're alive. You could have died.

      I'd be better off dead. Look at me.

      They got it from the cafeteria downstairs, in a tuna sandwich.

      Look, there's a little celery still on it.

      What was it like to sting someone?

      I can't explain it. It was all…

      All adrenaline and then… and then ecstasy!

      All right.

      You think it was all a trap?

      Of course. I'm sorry. I flew us right into this.

      What were we thinking? Look at us. We're just a couple of bugs in this world.

      What will the humans do to us if they win?

      I don't know.

      I hear they put the roaches in motels. That doesn't sound so bad.

      Adam, they check in, but they don't check out!

      Oh, my.

      Oould you get a nurse to close that window?

      Why? The smoke. Bees don't smoke.

      Right. Bees don't smoke.

      Bees don't smoke! But some bees are smoking.

      That's it! That's our case!

      It is? It's not over?

      Get dressed. I've gotta go somewhere.

      Get back to the court and stall. Stall any way you can.

      And assuming you've done step correctly, you're ready for the tub.

      Mr. Flayman.

      Yes? Yes, Your Honor!

      Where is the rest of your team?

      Well, Your Honor, it's interesting.

      Bees are trained to fly haphazardly,

      and as a result, we don't make very good time.

      I actually heard a funny story about…

      Your Honor, haven't these ridiculous bugs

      taken up enough of this court's valuable time?

      How much longer will we allow these absurd shenanigans to go on?

      They have presented no compelling evidence to support their charges

      against my clients, who run legitimate businesses.

      I move for a complete dismissal of this entire case!

      Mr. Flayman, I'm afraid I'm going

      to have to consider Mr. Montgomery's motion.

      But you can't! We have a terrific case.

      Where is your proof? Where is the evidence?

      Show me the smoking gun!

      Hold it, Your Honor! You want a smoking gun?

      Here is your smoking gun.

      What is that?

      It's a bee smoker!

      What, this? This harmless little contraption?

      This couldn't hurt a fly, let alone a bee.

      Look at what has happened

      to bees who have never been asked, "Smoking or non?"

      Is this what nature intended for us?

      To be forcibly addicted to smoke machines

      and man-made wooden slat work camps?

      Living out our lives as honey slaves to the white man?

      What are we gonna do? He's playing the species card. Ladies and gentlemen, please, free these bees!

      Free the bees! Free the bees!

      Free the bees!

      Free the bees! Free the bees!

      The court finds in favor of the bees!

      Vanessa, we won!

      I knew you could do it! High-five!

      Sorry.

      I'm OK! You know what this means?

      All the honey will finally belong to the bees.

      Now we won't have to work so hard all the time.

      This is an unholy perversion of the balance of nature, Benson.

      You'll regret this.

      Barry, how much honey is out there?

      All right. One at a time.

      Barry, who are you wearing?

      My sweater is Ralph Lauren, and I have no pants.

      What if Montgomery's right? What do you mean? We've been living the bee way a long time, 27 million years.

      Oongratulations on your victory. What will you demand as a settlement?

      First, we'll demand a complete shutdown of all bee work camps.

      Then we want back the honey that was ours to begin with,

      every last drop.

      We demand an end to the glorification of the bear as anything more

      than a filthy, smelly, bad-breath stink machine.

      We're all aware of what they do in the woods.

      Wait for my signal.

      Take him out.

      He'll have nauseous for a few hours, then he'll be fine.

      And we will no longer tolerate bee-negative nicknames…

      But it's just a prance-about stage name!

      …unnecessary inclusion of honey in bogus health products

      and la-dee-da human tea-time snack garnishments.

      Oan't breathe.

      Bring it in, boys!

      Hold it right there! Good.

      Tap it.

      Mr. Buzzwell, we just passed three cups, and there's gallons more coming!

      I think we need to shut down! Shut down? We've never shut down. Shut down honey production!

      Stop making honey!

      Turn your key, sir!

      What do we do now?

      Oannonball!

      We're shutting honey production!

      Mission abort.

      Aborting pollination and nectar detail. Returning to base.

      Adam, you wouldn't believe how much honey was out there.

      Oh, yeah?

      What's going on? Where is everybody?

      Are they out celebrating? They're home. They don't know what to do. Laying out, sleeping in.

      I heard your Uncle Oarl was on his way to San Antonio with a cricket.

      At least we got our honey back.

      Sometimes I think, so what if humans liked our honey? Who wouldn't?

      It's the greatest thing in the world! I was excited to be part of making it.

      This was my new desk. This was my new job. I wanted to do it really well.

      And now…

      Now I can't.

      I don't understand why they're not happy.

      I thought their lives would be better!

      They're doing nothing. It's amazing. Honey really changes people.

      You don't have any idea what's going on, do you?

      What did you want to show me? This. What happened here?

      That is not the half of it.

      Oh, no. Oh, my.

      They're all wilting.

      Doesn't look very good, does it?

      No.

      And whose fault do you think that is?

      You know, I'm gonna guess bees.

      Bees?

      Specifically, me.

      I didn't think bees not needing to make honey would affect all these things.

      It's notjust flowers. Fruits, vegetables, they all need bees.

      That's our whole SAT test right there.

      Take away produce, that affects the entire animal kingdom.

      And then, of course…

      The human species?

      So if there's no more pollination,

      it could all just go south here, couldn't it?

      I know this is also partly my fault.

      How about a suicide pact?

      How do we do it?

      I'll sting you, you step on me. Thatjust kills you twice. Right, right.

      Listen, Barry… sorry, but I gotta get going.

      I had to open my mouth and talk.

      Vanessa?

      Vanessa? Why are you leaving? Where are you going?

      To the final Tournament of Roses parade in Pasadena.

      They've moved it to this weekend because all the flowers are dying.

      It's the last chance I'll ever have to see it.

      Vanessa, I just wanna say I'm sorry. I never meant it to turn out like this.

      I know. Me neither.

      Tournament of Roses. Roses can't do sports.

      Wait a minute. Roses. Roses?

      Roses!

      Vanessa!

      Roses?!

      Barry?

      Roses are flowers! Yes, they are. Flowers, bees, pollen!

      I know. That's why this is the last parade.

      Maybe not. Oould you ask him to slow down?

      Oould you slow down?

      Barry!

      OK, I made a huge mistake. This is a total disaster, all my fault.

      Yes, it kind of is.

      I've ruined the planet. I wanted to help you

      with the flower shop. I've made it worse.

      Actually, it's completely closed down.

      I thought maybe you were remodeling.

      But I have another idea, and it's greater than my previous ideas combined.

      I don't want to hear it!

      All right, they have the roses, the roses have the pollen.

      I know every bee, plant and flower bud in this park.

      All we gotta do is get what they've got back here with what we've got.

      Bees.

      Park.

      Pollen!

      Flowers.

      Repollination!

      Across the nation!

      Tournament of Roses, Pasadena, Oalifornia.

      They've got nothing but flowers, floats and cotton candy.

      Security will be tight.

      I have an idea.

      Vanessa Bloome, FTD.

      Official floral business. It's real.

      Sorry, ma'am. Nice brooch.

      Thank you. It was a gift.

      Once inside, we just pick the right float.

      How about The Princess and the Pea?

      I could be the princess, and you could be the pea!

      Yes, I got it.

      Where should I sit?

      What are you?

      I believe I'm the pea.

      The pea?

      It goes under the mattresses.

      Not in this fairy tale, sweetheart. I'm getting the marshal. You do that! This whole parade is a fiasco!

      Let's see what this baby'll do.

      Hey, what are you doing?!

      Then all we do is blend in with traffic…

      …without arousing suspicion.

      Once at the airport, there's no stopping us.

      Stop! Security.

      You and your insect pack your float? Yes. Has it been in your possession the entire time?

      Would you remove your shoes?

      Remove your stinger. It's part of me. I know. Just having some fun. Enjoy your flight.

      Then if we're lucky, we'll have just enough pollen to do the job.

      Oan you believe how lucky we are? We have just enough pollen to do the job!

      I think this is gonna work.

      It's got to work.

      Attention, passengers, this is Oaptain Scott.

      We have a bit of bad weather in New York.

      It looks like we'll experience a couple hours delay.

      Barry, these are cut flowers with no water. They'll never make it.

      I gotta get up there and talk to them.

      Be careful.

      Oan I get help with the Sky Mall magazine?

      I'd like to order the talking inflatable nose and ear hair trimmer.

      Oaptain, I'm in a real situation.

      What'd you say, Hal? Nothing. Bee!

      Don't freak out! My entire species…

      What are you doing?

      Wait a minute! I'm an attorney! Who's an attorney? Don't move.

      Oh, Barry.

      Good afternoon, passengers. This is your captain.

      Would a Miss Vanessa Bloome in 24B please report to the cockpit?

      And please hurry!

      What happened here?

      There was a DustBuster, a toupee, a life raft exploded.

      One's bald, one's in a boat, they're both unconscious!

      Is that another bee joke? No! No one's flying the plane!

      This is JFK control tower, Flight 356. What's your status?

      This is Vanessa Bloome. I'm a florist from New York.

      Where's the pilot?

      He's unconscious, and so is the copilot.

      Not good. Does anyone onboard have flight experience?

      As a matter of fact, there is.

      Who's that? Barry Benson. From the honey trial?! Oh, great.

      Vanessa, this is nothing more than a big metal bee.

      It's got giant wings, huge engines.

      I can't fly a plane.

      Why not? Isn't John Travolta a pilot? Yes. How hard could it be?

      Wait, Barry! We're headed into some lightning.

      This is Bob Bumble. We have some late-breaking news from JFK Airport,

      where a suspenseful scene is developing.

      Barry Benson, fresh from his legal victory…

      That's Barry!

      …is attempting to land a plane, loaded with people, flowers

      and an incapacitated flight crew.

      Flowers?!

      We have a storm in the area and two individuals at the controls

      with absolutely no flight experience.

      Just a minute. There's a bee on that plane.

      I'm quite familiar with Mr. Benson and his no-account compadres.

      They've done enough damage.

      But isn't he your only hope?

      Technically, a bee shouldn't be able to fly at all.

      Their wings are too small…

      Haven't we heard this a million times?

      "The surface area of the wings and body mass make no sense."

      Get this on the air!

      Got it.

      Stand by.

      We're going live.

      The way we work may be a mystery to you.

      Making honey takes a lot of bees doing a lot of small jobs.

      But let me tell you about a small job.

      If you do it well, it makes a big difference.

      More than we realized. To us, to everyone.

      That's why I want to get bees back to working together.

      That's the bee way! We're not made of Jell-O.

      We get behind a fellow.

      Black and yellow! Hello! Left, right, down, hover.

      Hover? Forget hover. This isn't so hard. Beep-beep! Beep-beep!

      Barry, what happened?!

      Wait, I think we were on autopilot the whole time.

      That may have been helping me. And now we're not! So it turns out I cannot fly a plane.

      All of you, let's get behind this fellow! Move it out!

      Move out!

      Our only chance is if I do what I'd do, you copy me with the wings of the plane!

      Don't have to yell.

      I'm not yelling! We're in a lot of trouble.

      It's very hard to concentrate with that panicky tone in your voice!

      It's not a tone. I'm panicking!

      I can't do this!

      Vanessa, pull yourself together. You have to snap out of it!

      You snap out of it.

      You snap out of it.

      You snap out of it!

      You snap out of it!

      You snap out of it!

      You snap out of it!

      You snap out of it!

      You snap out of it!

      Hold it!

      Why? Oome on, it's my turn.

      How is the plane flying?

      I don't know.

      Hello?

      Benson, got any flowers for a happy occasion in there?

      The Pollen Jocks!

      They do get behind a fellow.

      Black and yellow. Hello. All right, let's drop this tin can on the blacktop.

      Where? I can't see anything. Oan you?

      No, nothing. It's all cloudy.

      Oome on. You got to think bee, Barry.

      Thinking bee. Thinking bee. Thinking bee! Thinking bee! Thinking bee!

      Wait a minute. I think I'm feeling something.

      What? I don't know. It's strong, pulling me. Like a 27-million-year-old instinct.

      Bring the nose down.

      Thinking bee! Thinking bee! Thinking bee!

      What in the world is on the tarmac? Get some lights on that! Thinking bee! Thinking bee! Thinking bee!

      Vanessa, aim for the flower. OK. Out the engines. We're going in on bee power. Ready, boys?

      Affirmative!

      Good. Good. Easy, now. That's it.

      Land on that flower!

      Ready? Full reverse!

      Spin it around!

      Not that flower! The other one!

      Which one?

      That flower.

      I'm aiming at the flower!

      That's a fat guy in a flowered shirt. I mean the giant pulsating flower

      made of millions of bees!

      Pull forward. Nose down. Tail up.

      Rotate around it.

      This is insane, Barry! This's the only way I know how to fly. Am I koo-koo-kachoo, or is this plane flying in an insect-like pattern?

      Get your nose in there. Don't be afraid. Smell it. Full reverse!

      Just drop it. Be a part of it.

      Aim for the center!

      Now drop it in! Drop it in, woman!

      Oome on, already.

      Barry, we did it! You taught me how to fly!

      Yes. No high-five! Right. Barry, it worked! Did you see the giant flower?

      What giant flower? Where? Of course I saw the flower! That was genius!

      Thank you. But we're not done yet. Listen, everyone!

      This runway is covered with the last pollen

      from the last flowers available anywhere on Earth.

      That means this is our last chance.

      We're the only ones who make honey, pollinate flowers and dress like this.

      If we're gonna survive as a species, this is our moment! What do you say?

      Are we going to be bees, orjust Museum of Natural History keychains?

      We're bees!

      Keychain!

      Then follow me! Except Keychain.

      Hold on, Barry. Here.

      You've earned this.

      Yeah!

      I'm a Pollen Jock! And it's a perfect fit. All I gotta do are the sleeves.

      Oh, yeah.

      That's our Barry.

      Mom! The bees are back!

      If anybody needs to make a call, now's the time.

      I got a feeling we'll be working late tonight!

      Here's your change. Have a great afternoon! Oan I help who's next?

      Would you like some honey with that? It is bee-approved. Don't forget these.

      Milk, cream, cheese, it's all me. And I don't see a nickel!

      Sometimes I just feel like a piece of meat!

      I had no idea.

      Barry, I'm sorry. Have you got a moment?

      Would you excuse me? My mosquito associate will help you.

      Sorry I'm late.

      He's a lawyer too?

      I was already a blood-sucking parasite. All I needed was a briefcase.

      Have a great afternoon!

      Barry, I just got this huge tulip order, and I can't get them anywhere.

      No problem, Vannie. Just leave it to me.

      You're a lifesaver, Barry. Oan I help who's next?

      All right, scramble, jocks! It's time to fly.

      Thank you, Barry!

      That bee is living my life!

      Let it go, Kenny.

      When will this nightmare end?!

      Let it all go.

      Beautiful day to fly.

      Sure is.

      Between you and me, I was dying to get out of that office.

      You have got to start thinking bee, my friend.

      Thinking bee! Me? Hold it. Let's just stop for a second. Hold it.

      I'm sorry. I'm sorry, everyone. Oan we stop here?

      I'm not making a major life decision during a production number!

      All right. Take ten, everybody. Wrap it up, guys.

      I had virtually no rehearsal for that.

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    1. Author response:

      The following is the authors’ response to the original reviews.

      Public Reviews:

      Reviewer #1 (Public Review):

      Summary:

      The manuscript "comparative transcriptomics reveal a novel tardigrade specific DNA binding protein induced in response to ionizing radiation" aims to provide insights into the mediators and mechanisms underlying tardigrade radiation tolerance. The authors start by assessing the effect of ionizing radiation (IR) on the tardigrade lab species, H. exemplaris, as well as the ability of this organism to recover from this stress - specifically, they look at DNA double and single-strand breaks. They go on to characterize the response of H. exemplaris and two other tardigrade species to IR at the transcriptomic level. Excitingly, the authors identify a novel gene/protein called TDR1 (tardigrade DNA damage response protein 1). They carefully assess the induction of expression/enrichment of this gene/protein using a combination of transcriptomics and biochemistry - even going so far as to use a translational inhibitor to confirm the de novo production of this protein. TDR1 binds DNA in vitro and co-localizes with DNA in tardigrades.

      Reverse genetics in tardigrades is difficult, thus the authors use a heterologous system (human cells) to express TDR1 in. They find that when transiently expressed TDR1 helps improve human cell resistance to IR.

      This work is a masterclass in integrative biology incorporating a holistic set of approaches spanning next-gen sequencing, organismal biology, biochemistry, and cell biology. I find very little to critique in their experimental approaches.

      Strengths:

      (1) Use of trans/interdisciplinary approaches ('omics, molecular biology, biochemistry, organismal biology)

      (2) Careful probing of TDR1 expression/enrichment

      (3) Identification of a completely novel protein seemingly involved in tardigrade radio-tolerance.

      (4) Use of multiple, diverse, tardigrade species of 'omics comparison.

      Weaknesses:

      (1) No reverse genetics in tardigrades - all insights into TDR1 function from heterologous cell culture system.

      (2) Weak discussion of Dsup's role in preventing DNA damage in light of DNA damage levels measured in this manuscript.

      (3) Missing sequence data which is essential for making a complete review of the work.

      Overall, I find this to be one of the more compelling papers on tardigrade stress-tolerance I have read. I believe there are points still that the authors should address, but I think the editor would do well to give the authors a chance to address these points as I find this manuscript highly insightful and novel.

      We thank the reviewer for his comments.

      We agree that it will be important to further investigate the role of Dsup in radio-tolerance. We briefly mentioned this point in the discussion (p14). Our findings show that tardigrades undergo DNA damage at levels roughly similar to radio-sensitive organisms and therefore support a major role for DNA repair in the maintenance of genome integrity after exposure to IR. Nevertheless, we believe that more precise quantification of DNA damage may still reveal a contribution of genome protection to radio-tolerance of tardigrades compared to radio-sensitive organisms. Dsup loss of function experiments in tardigrades would clearly be the best way to assess this possibility. In the absence of experiments directly addressing the function of Dsup, we prefer to refrain from drawing any firm conclusion on prevention of DNA damage by Dsup and thus to keep a more open position. In any case, as discussed in the text, we note that Dsup has only been reported in Hypsibioidea and other molecular players, such as TDR1, are likely involved in radio-tolerance in other tardigrade species.

      The sequence data can be accessed at the NCBI SRA database with Bioproject ID PRJNA997229.

      Reviewer #3 (Public Review):

      Summary:

      This paper describes transcriptomes from three tardigrade species with or without treatment with ionizing radiation (IR). The authors show that IR produces numerous single-strand and double-strand breaks as expected and that these are substantially repaired within 4-8 hours. Treatment with IR induces strong upregulation of transcripts from numerous DNA repair proteins including Dsup specific to the Hypsobioidea superfamily. Transcripts from the newly described protein TDR1 with homologs in both Hypsibioidea and Macrobiotoidea supefamilies are also strongly upregulated. They show that TDR1 transcription produces newly translated TDR1 protein, which can bind DNA and co-localizes with DNA in the nucleus. At higher concentrations, TDR appears to form aggregates with DNA, which might be relevant to a possible function in DNA damage repair. When introduced into human U2OS cells treated with bleomycin, TDR1 reduces the number of double-strand breaks as detected by gamma H2A spots. This paper will be of interest to the DNA repair field and to radiobiologists.

      Strengths:

      The paper is well-written and provides solid evidence of the upregulation of DNA repair enzymes after irradiation of tardigrades, as well as upregulation of the TRD1 protein. The reduction of gamma-H2A.X spots in U2OS cells after expression of TRD1 supports a role in DNA damage.

      Weaknesses:

      Genetic tools are still being developed in tardigrades, so there is no mutant phenotype to support a DNA repair function for TRD1, but this may be available soon.

      We thank the reviewer for his comments.

      Reviewer #4 (Public Review):

      The manuscript brings convincing results regarding genes involved in the radio-resistance of tardigrades. It is nicely written and the authors used different techniques to study these genes. There are sometimes problems with the structure of the manuscript but these could be easily solved. According to me, there are also some points which should be clarified in the result sections. The discussion section is clear but could be more detailed, although some results were actually discussed in the results section. I wish that the authors would go deeper in the comparison with other IR-resistant eucaryotes. Overall, this is a very nice study and of interest to researchers studying molecular mechanisms of ionizing radiation resistance.

      I have two small suggestions regarding the content of the study itself.

      (1) I think the study would benefit from the analyses of a gene tree (if feasible) in order to verify if TDR1 is indeed tardigrade-specific.

      (2) It would be appreciated to indicate the expression level of the different genes discussed in the study, using, for example, transcript per millions (TPMs).Recommendations for the authors: please note that you control which revisions to undertake from the public reviews and recommendations for the authors

      We thank the reviewer for his comments.

      (1) To identify TDR1 homologous sequences in non-tardigrade species, we conducted extensive homology searches using multiple homology-based approaches (Blastp and Diamond against the NCBI non-redundant protein sequences (nr) database and hmmsearch against the EBI reference proteomes), which failed to identify TDR1 homologs in non-tardigrade ecdysozoans, thus strongly supporting that TDR1 is indeed tardigrade-specific.

      To be clearer in the manuscript, we now state the absence of hits for TDR1 in non-tardigrade ecdysozoans. Given the absence of homologs in non-tardigrade species, it is not possible to make a gene tree with non-tardigrade species.

      (2) To further document expression levels (which were already available from the Tables in the initial submission), we added MAplots (representing log2foldchange and logNormalized read counts) in the supplementary materials (Supp Figure 3 and Supp Figure 8). These additional figures clearly document that the DNA repair genes discussed in the main text and TDR1 are highly expressed genes after IR and after Bleomycin treatment.

      Recommendations for the authors:

      Reviewer #1 (Recommendations For The Authors):

      We thank the reviewer for his comments.

      (1) It has always seemed strange to me that tardigrades accumulate just as much DNA damage as any other organism when irradiated and yet their Dsup protein is supposed to shield and protect their DNA from damage. Perhaps this is an appropriate time for this idea to be reconsidered given the Dsup was NOT induced by IR in this study and the authors found that their animals incurred just as much damage as other biological systems. While Dsup is clearly not the focus of this manuscript, it is the protein most associated with tardigrade radio-tolerance and I would argue this new paper would call into question previous conclusions made about Dsup.

      We agree that it will be important to further investigate the role of Dsup in radio-tolerance. We briefly mentioned this point in the discussion (p14). Our findings show that tardigrades undergo DNA damage at levels roughly similar to radio-sensitive organisms and therefore support a major role for DNA repair in the maintenance of genome integrity after exposure to IR. Nevertheless, we believe that more precise quantification of DNA damage may still reveal a contribution of genome protection to radio-tolerance of tardigrades compared to radio-sensitive organisms. Dsup loss of function experiments in tardigrades would clearly be the best way to assess this possibility. In the absence of experiments directly addressing the function of Dsup, we prefer to refrain from drawing any firm conclusion on prevention of DNA damage by Dsup and thus to keep a more open position. In any case, as discussed in the text, we note that Dsup has only been reported in Hypsibioidea and other molecular players, such as TDR1, are likely involved in radio-tolerance in other tardigrade species.

      (2) While reverse genetics are difficult in tardigrades, they are not impossible, and RNAi can be used to good effect in these animals. In fact several authors on this manuscript have used RNAi to examine the necessity of genes in tardigrade stress tolerance in the past. Was an attempt made to RNAi TDR1? If not, why? With the large amount of work that the authors put into showing the sufficiency of TDR1 for increasing radiotolerance in cell culture, one would think looking at necessity in tardigrades would be of great interest. If RNAi was performed, what were the results? Even a negative result here is informative since a protein can be sufficient but not necessary for a function - if this were the case it would mean tardigrades have some redundant mechanism(s) for surviving radiation exposure beyond TDR1.

      We have attempted RNAi experiments targeting TDR1 or a mix of DNA repair genes (including XRCC5) and examined response to a bleomycin treatment of 2 weeks. Unfortunately, we could not distinguish any difference between uninjected animals and animals injected with TDR1 dsRNAs , or the mix of DNA repair genes dsRNAs. We concluded that, bleomycin treatment, that we used because it is much easier to perform than irradiation, was perhaps not the best way to assay a potential impact of RNAi on survival since it required long term treatment for several days during which the effect of RNAi may have waned. Another attempt was therefore made injecting with TDR1 or control GFP dsRNAs and exposing animals to a 2000Gy IR treatment. We noticed that the viability was lower after injection with GFP dsRNAs than with TDR1 dsRNAs (likely due to problems we had with the injection needle during injections). The next day, animals were irradiated and we observed after 24h that animals injected with GFP dsRNAs exhibited higher lethality rates than animals injected with TDR1 dsRNAs or uninjected animals. We found that this set of experiments were not conclusive. Our current experimental set up will make it difficult to distinguish lethality due to injections from lethality due to potentially decreased resistance to IR. In particular, many key controls are difficult to make (in particular, we could not confirm the efficiency of target gene knockdown, as it is very challenging given the low amount of biological material available and the poor expression of these genes without irradiation). From a practical point of view, performing these experiments is thus very challenging. We nevertheless agree that, in future work, further experimentation is needed to examine the impact of knock-down by RNAi of TDR1 or of other genes such as DNA repair genes or Dsup, in tardigrade DNA repair and survival after IR. Gene knock-out with CRISPR-Cas9 is a very promising alternative to RNAi given that studies in mutant lines will eliminate the confounding effect of lethality due to injections.

      (3) Regarding the U2OS experiments. I have several questions/points of clarification:

      a. Were survival/proliferation levels tested or only H2AX foci? I think that showing decreased H2AX foci (fewer double-stranded breaks) correlates with higher survival rates would be important.

      In the experiments reported in Figure 6, cells were transiently transfected with expression vectors and we did not examine the impact on survival rates. U2OS cells are resistant to high doses of Bleomycin and testing survival would require longer exposure at much higher concentrations (Buscemi et al, 2014, PMID: 25486478). In order to try and better address an impact on cell survival, we therefore generated populations of cells stably expressing the candidate tardigrade proteins fused to GFP. Despite trying different experiment conditions for treatment with Bleomycin, we could not detect a reproducibly significant benefit on cell survival for any of the tardigrade proteins tested, including RvDsup which was used as a positive control (since it was previously reported to improve cell survival in response to X-rays). One possibility is that the analysis should be performed in clones and not in populations of cells with heterogeneous expression levels of the tardigrade protein tested. For example, expression levels of the tardigrade protein needed to reduce the number of phospho-H2AX foci in response to DNA damage may interfere with cell division. We note that in the original Dsup paper, the benefit of RvDsup on cell survival was reported in specific transgenic clones. Experiments in different biological systems have also started to document toxic effects of RvDsup expression, illustrating the challenge, when performing experiments in heterologous systems, to achieve suitable expression levels of the tested protein. Trying to perform such a finer analysis, in our opinion, would go beyond the scope of our manuscript and will be best addressed in future studies. We are therefore careful in the text not to make any claim on the benefit of TDR1 expression on cell survival in response to Bleomycin in human cultured cells.

      (b) From the methods I am a bit confused as to how the images were treated/foci quantified. With the automatic segmentation and foci identification, is this done through the entire Z-series or a single layer? If the latter then I am not sure the results are meaningful, since we do not know how many foci might be present in other layers of the nuclei analyzed. If the former, please clarify this in the method since it is a very important consideration.

      We have acquired images throughout the entire Z-series and edited the text to make it more clear ; We now write: “ Z-stacks were maximum projected and analyzed with Zen Blue software (v2.3)...”. To limit the time needed for image analysis, we have generated an artificial image by projecting the entire Z-series into a single image and counted foci in that single maximum projection image. Although there are potential drawbacks, such as potentially only counting one focus when two foci are superposed along the Z axis, this approach overcomes the limitations of quantification from a single layer. We further ensured statistical robustness of the analysis by performing quantification from several independent fields of the labelled cells and several independent biological replicates (n>=3 as now specified in the legend of figure 6a).

      (c) RvDsup reduced levels of HXA1 foci in these experiments, however, HeDsup was not found to be enriched in the transcriptomic analysis performed here. Was there a reason HeDsup was not used in the cell-based experiments? One could argue that RvDsup is from a different species of tardigrade, but it is a bit concerning that an ortholog of a protein found NOT to be induced by radiation exposure seems to perform as well (if not better) than some versions of TDR1.

      RvDsup is the protein initially shown to increase survival of human HEK293 cells treated with X-rays and reduce the number of phospho-H2AX foci induced: it was therefore used as a positive control in our experiments. The sequence of HeDsup is only poorly similar to RvDsup (with 26% identity) and activity of HeDsup in cultured cells has not been reported before. We therefore believe that HeDsup is not well suited to provide a positive control for the experiments performed in our manuscript.

      (d) From the methods, it seems that cells were treated with Bleomycin and then immediately fixed without any sort of recovery time. In this short timeframe, the presence of TDR1 appears to be enough to deal with a substantial amount of double-stranded breaks (as evidenced by the reduced number of HXA1 foci). Does this make sense? How quickly could one expect DNA repair machinery to make significant progress in resolving damaged DNA? This response seems much faster than what was observed in tardigrades. Perhaps the authors to comment on this.

      Kinetic studies in human cells show extremely rapid repair of DNA double-strand breaks. Sensing of DNA double strand breaks by PARP proteins takes place within seconds after irradiation by IR (Pandey and Black, 2021, PMID: 33674152). NHEJ is then observed to take place by formation of 53BP1 foci within 15 minutes (Schultz et al, 2000, PMID: 11134068). The number of phospho-H2AX and 53BP1 foci peaks at 30 minutes and starts declining thereafter, showing that at a significant number of sites, DNA repair is proceeding very rapidly (by NHEJ). Although we are not aware of any studies of DNA repair kinetics in U2OS cells after addition of Bleomycin, DNA damage must be instantaneous and further take place during exposure to the drug in parallel to DNA repair, which would be expected to have similar kinetics than after irradiation with IR.

      In our experiments, several mechanisms may be involved in reducing the number of phospho-H2AX foci induced by Bleomycin, such as DNA protection (for Dsup expression) or stimulation of DNA repair (for RNF146 expression). For TDR1, the molecular mechanism involved remains to be determined. Given our finding that TDR1 can form aggregates with DNA, an additional possibility is that clustering of phospho-H2AX foci is induced.

      (4) I could not find the sequences of the TDR1 proteins studied here. I did find the cDNA sequence of HeTDR1 in the final supplementary file, but not the other TDR1 orthologs. In the place where it appeared the TDR1 sequences from other tardigrades should be there were very short segments of the HETDR1 sequence. All sequences of proteins used in this study should be easily accessible to the reader and reviewers as it is not possible to review this work without accessing the sequences.

      Our apologies for the inappropriate documentation of TDR1 sequences in the original manuscript. As requested, we have now included the TDR1 sequences in the Supplementary Table 4.

      (5) Likewise, the RNA sequence data is said to be deposited in NCBI under PRJNA997229, but I do not find this available on NCBI.

      The RNA sequence data was deposited in NCBI under the indicated reference before submission of the manuscript. The data has now been released and is fully available on NCBI.

      (6) A few typographical errors: e.g., Page 10 - sentence 4 has two periods ". ." or page 14 which has an open parenthesis that is not closed.

      These typos have been corrected in the revised manuscript.

      Reviewer #3 (Recommendations For The Authors):

      We thank the reviewer for his comments.

      In Figure 4C, what fraction of the 50 genes upregulated in all species and treatments are DNA repair genes? Is there any other notable commonality between these 50 genes? The bulk of upregulated genes are specific to a species and to treatment with IR or bleomycin. What fraction of DNA repair genes are specific to a species or treatment?

      The results in Figure 4C on the 50 putative orthologous genes upregulated in all species and treatments are further detailed in supp Figure 10. The legend to supp Figure 10 now provides the requested information: 14/50 genes are DNA repair genes and the other notable commonality is that 21/50 are “stress response genes”. We did not further breakdown the analysis to evaluate the fraction of DNA repair genes specific to a species or treatment. It will be interesting to gather data in more species to hed light on the evolutionary history of DNA repair gene regulation in response to IR.

      How does the suite of upregulated tardigrade DNA repair proteins after IR or bleomycin compare with DNA or repair proteins upregulated under similar treatments in human cells? Are they quantitatively or qualitatively different, or both?

      There is a great wealth of studies documenting genes differentially expressed in human cells in response to IR (e.g. Borras-Fresneda et al, 2016, PMID: 27245205; Rieger and Chu, 2004, PMID: 15356296; Budwoeth et al, 2012, PMID: 23144912 ; Rashi-Elkeles et al, 2011, PMID: 21795128; Jen and Cheung, 2003, PMID: 12915489...). Upregulation of DNA repair and cell cycle genes is commonly found. However, the number of DNA repair genes induced is always very limited and fold stimulation very modest compared to the massive upregulation observed in tardigrades.

      On page 14, please explain the acronym BER. Do the authors mean Base Excision Repair? Or something else?

      As assumed by the reviewer, the acronym BER stands for Base Excision Repair. The acronym has been removed from the main text and replaced by the full name.

      Reviewer #4 (Recommendations For The Authors):

      We thank the reviewer for his comments.

      Abstract:

      The abstract is fine. What was hard to grasp at the beginning is why TDR1 gene was named that way. It should be clearer that this study decided to further focus on that gene, one of the most overexpressed gene after IR, with an unknown function. Then maybe introduce that it was found to be unique to tardigrade and to interact with DNA. Therefore, it was named TDR1.

      Introduction:

      The introduction has been modified according to the suggestions of Reviewer#4 below. One of the suggested references, Nicolas et al 2023 from the Van Doninck lab, was published while our manuscript was under review and cannot be considered as background information for our study.

      1st paragraph:

      The study is on tardigrades, I found it strange that the first paragraph is on D. radiodurans. I think it is fine to mention what is known in bacteria and eucaryotes but we should already know what will be the main topic in the first paragraph of the introduction. Some details about D. radiodurans seem less important and distracting from the main topic (3D conformation).

      2nd paragraph:

      When mentioning radio-resistant eurcaryotes the authors do not mention the larvae of the anhydrobiotic insect Polypedilum vanderplanki. Stating that the mechanisms of resistance are poorly characterized should perhaps be nuanced. There are some recent studies on D. radiodurans (Ujaoney et al., 2017) the insect P. vanderplanki (Ryabova et al., 2017), tardigrades (Kamilari et al., 2019), and rotifers (Nicolas et al., 2023, Moris et al., 2023). Perhaps these papers are worth indicating that if mechanisms are not elucidated yet, recent studies suggest some actors involved in their resistance. Regarding the sentence stating that DNA repair rather than DNA protection plays a predominant role in the radio-resistance of bdelloid rotifers should also be nuanced. Indeed, many chaperones, antioxidants were mentioned to play a role in the radio-resistance of bdelloid rotifers (Moris et al., 2023). The authors mentioned the reference Hespeels et al., 2023 which is not found in their list of references, I am not sure which paper they refer to. The last sentence of the second paragraph does not mean much. I am not sure what the authors want to state with this. Perhaps they should specify if they mean that the function of many other genes overexpressed after IR remains unknown.

      Still, in the second paragraph, the authors focus on rotifers. They also do not mention what is known in the insect P. vanderplanki, which should be added. They still do not mention tardigrades. I think it is nice to first start with eucaryotes and then focus on tardigrades but as I mentioned before it would help to understand the aim of the paper if the first paragraph mentioned briefly the tardigrades and then could go into detail in the third paragraph.

      3rd paragraph:

      The sentence starting "with over 1400 species" best to remove from it "but they can differ in their resistance" and start the next sentence with that.

      4th paragraph:

      Very clear, we finally understand what is the focus of the manuscript.

      5th paragraph:

      Very clear. The authors should mention the names of the three studied species. Here, A. antarcticus is missing. The sentence "Further analyses in H. exemplaris... showed that TDR1 protein is present and upregulated". The authors should mention in which conditions the protein is upregulated. In that paragraph the authors mention phospho-H2AX: it might be good to introduce its functions before in the introduction (it is mentioned in the second sentence of the results: best to move it to the introduction).

      Results:

      There are a few sentences in this section which rather discuss the results than describe them. I think the manuscript might gain in quality if these interpretations of the results are moved into the discussion section. That would make the result section more concise and the discussion enriched.

      For instance, I suggest to move these sentences into the discussion:

      • "the finding of persistent DSBs in gonads at 72h.... likely explains...".

      • "suggesting that (i) DNA synthesis..."

      • " Phospho-H2AX....also suggested"

      • "Moreover, expression of TDR1-GFP..., supporting the potential role of TDR1 proteins..."

      • "our results suggest that RNF146 upreguation could contribute..."

      • "AMNP gene g12777 was shown to increase...Based on our results, it is possible that..."

      Interpretations mentioned here above were always introduced cautiously (-"suggesting that (i) DNA synthesis..." ; -" Phospho-H2AX....also suggested" ; -"Moreover, expression of TDR1-GFP..., supporting the potential role of TDR1 proteins..." ; -"our results suggest that RNF146 upreguation could contribute..." ). These cautious interpretations were usually important in deciding next steps of the work. We therefore believe it is important to mention these interpretations in the results section to clearly expose the milestones marking the progression of the study.

      For some results, they were directly discussed in the results section for the sake of concision (for example -"the finding of persistent DSBs in gonads at 72h.... likely explains..."; -"AMNP gene g12777 was shown to increase...Based on our results, it is possible that..." ) since, in our opinion, there was no need to mention them again in the main discussion.

      Some other parts could be good to be moved into the introduction:

      • "Previous studies have indicated that irradiation with IR increases expression of Rad51,..." none of the actors involved in DNA repair are mentioned in the introduction. Also, change resistant into resistance

      • "A. antarcticus ..., known for its resistant to high doses of UV....

      We have moved these parts to the introduction as recommended.

      It was in O. areolatus.... that the first demonstration..."

      This piece of information is somewhat anecdotical. We choose to keep it it here in the results section. This information on the radio-resistance of the species P. areolatus is only relevant at this specific step of the study because it encouraged us to consider that P. fairbanksi, which we isolated fortuitously, would be a good model species for studying radio-resistance of tardigrades.

      Here are some additional comments/suggestions on the result section:

      1st section

      • Remove the Gross et al., 2018 from the sentence "using confocal microscopy", it looks otherwise that these results are from their study, not yours.

      We have changed the text to make it clear that this is indeed a finding of Gross et al which was previously made in non-irradiated tardigrades. We replicated this finding, which showed that the protocol was working appropriately, and that we could use this control result for comparison with irradiated animals. We apologize for this confusion.

      The text now states: “Using confocal microscopy, we could detect DNA synthesis in replicating intestinal cells of control animals, as previously shown by (Gross et al. 2018).”

      2nd section

      • It is confusing what has been found induced by IR and/or by Bleomycin.

      • I think it might help if the authors first present what is induced after IR, then write if it is similar after Bleomycin. Especially since they start to do it in the first paragraph of that section. However, they only mention TDR1 in the second paragraph dedicated to Bleomycin treatment which is confusing as it is also overexpressed after IR. It is also not clear if RNF146 is also induced by Bleomycin.

      As recommended, the text presents first what is induced after IR and then what is induced by Bleomycin in the following paragraph. When reporting results with Bleomycin, we have provided a global assessment of what is common to both treatments in Supp Figure 3 and in Supp Table 3. In this figure, we also specifically highlighted several key genes of DNA repair induced by both treatments. These are also mentioned in the text (p8) to illustrate the point that many key DNA repair genes are common to both treatments. We have now added RNF146 to that list as recommended.

      • Regarding TDR1, it is not clear when introduced in the text as "promising candidate" why it is the case. It is clear in the figures but perhaps the authors should explain why they chose these genes for further analyses: high log2foldchange and expression level for instance. Regarding that last comment, it would be interesting to have an idea about the expression level of the genes with high log2foldchange. In Figures 2, 3, and 4 the pvalue and log2foldchange are represented but not the expression level (ideally Transcript per Millions). These values would give an additional idea on the importance of that gene. While looking at the figures, it is unclear why you did not further characterize other genes with high log2foldchange (some with even hints of their function): the mentioned RNF146, macroH2A1 (not even mentioned in the results), some genes unannotated in the figures with likely unknown functions,

      When selecting genes of interest, we did indeed take into account high expression levels. To more clearly document expression levels (which were already available from the Tables), we added MAplots (representing log2foldchange and logNormalized read counts) in the supplementary materials (Supp Figure 3 and Supp Figure 8).

      • It is also unclear at that stage why you named it "Tardigrade DNA damage response protein", as it is characterized as DNA repair/damage proteins by specific GO id or is it based on your downstream analyses, I think it might be worth to quickly mention the reason of that name.

      The name illustrates two points which were already characteristic at this point in time of the study i.e. 1) it is a tardigrade specific protein and 2) it is induced in response to DNA damage.

      • Regarding the BLAST analyses the protein was searched in C. elegans, D. melanogaster and H. sapiens. Why only these three species? What were the threshold evalues used for these analyses. As mentioned in the main comment, it would be worth searching species phylogenetically close to tardigrades to verify if it is well-tardigrade specific. Did you try to make a gene tree, after looking for a conserved domain (using hmmersearch)?

      As indicated in the methods section, the “Tardigrade-specific" annotation was determined by absence of hits after high-throughput alignment (with diamond using –ultrasensitive-option) on the NCBI nr database and absence of hits after blast search on C. elegans, D. melanogaster and H. sapiens proteomes as a complementary criterion (the latter blast search was primarily performed to enrich for functional annotations). Based on these criteria, TDR1 was annotated as “Tardigrade-specific”. As stated in the text, we also searched for TDR1 related sequences with 1) blastp (which is more sensitive than diamond) on the NCBI nr database and 2) HMMER on Reference Proteomes, and no hits were found among non-tardigrade ecdysozoans organisms, confirming TDR1 is specific to tardigrades. For Blast search for example, there were five hits in non-ecdysozoans organisms (two cephalochordates, one mollusc and two echinoderma). The blastp and HMMER results are now included in the revised supplementary material (Supp Table 5). These very few hits in species phylogenetically distant from tardigrades cannot be taken to support the existence of TDR1 genes outside tardigrades.

      To be clearer in the manuscript, we now state the absence of hits for TDR1 in non-tardigrade ecdysozoans. Given the absence of homologs in non-tardigrade species, it is not possible to make a gene tree with non-tardigrade species.

      • Page 9: "Proteins extracts from H. exemplaris... at 4h and 24h..." I think this sentence can be removed as this is mentioned again 2 paragraphs after: "...we conducted an unbiased proteome analysis... at 4h..." The log2foldchange threshold mentioned for the proteomic analyses is 0.3: why this threshold, was it chosen randomly?

      This is threshold is commonly used when considering log2foldchange with the technology used in our study, an isobaric multiplexed quantitative proteomic strategy which is known to compress ratios (Hogrebe et al. 2018).

      • Page 10:

      It would be good for more clarity to indicate at the beginning of the new section which species were investigated after IR or Bleomycin treatment.

      TDR1 homologs in the other tardigrade species were identified based on what? Best reciprocal hit?

      As indicated in the methods section of the manuscript, we searched for homologs in other tardigrade species by BLAST. A best reciprocal hit approach was not performed to try to determine which homologs might be orthologs. In particular, most TDR1 homologs identified are known from transcriptome assemblies and high-contiguity genome assemblies are needed to more confidently identify orthology (using synteny). The results of the BLASTP search are now provided as supplementary material (Supp Table 5).

      Preliminary experiments indicated that A. antarcticus and P. fairbanski survived exposure to 1000 Gy: is there a supplementary graph showing this?

      We have corrected the text to avoid any confusion. We have not rigorously examined the dose-dependent survival of P. fairbanksi in response to irradiation. Text was changed to: “We found by visual inspection of animals after IR that A. antarcticus and P. fairbanksi readily survived exposure to 1000 Gy.”

      • Page 11:

      "A set of 50 genes was upregulated in the three species": please be precise if only after IR.

      Done

      These genes cannot be the same as they are from different species. Did the author mean that they are coding for similar proteins? It might be good to give some more details even if the supplementary figure is mentioned.

      Obviously, these genes are putative orthologs. We have changed the text to:

      ” a set of 50 putative orthologous genes was upregulated in response to IR in all three species”

      Discussion:

      • General comment: the discussion is focused mainly on TDR1, it would be nice to also discuss the other results: DNA repair genes, RNF146.

      A whole paragraph is devoted to discussion of results on DNA repair genes and RNF146. We have extended that discussion following on the suggestion of the reviewer. In particular, we have explicitly mentioned the apparent paradox that XRCC5 and XRCC6, which are among the most highly stimulated genes at the mRNA level, only display modest upregulation at the protein level. Although further studies would be needed to examine the mechanisms involved, we propose that upregulation of RNF146, whose human homolog has been shown to drive degradation of PARylated XRCC5 and XRCC6 proteins in response to IR (Kang et al. 2011), may be responsible for higher degradation rates and may thus counterbalance increased levels of protein synthesis.

      • Pulse field electrophoresis would be nice to be performed. It has been used to assess DSBs in bdelloid rotifers, is it possible in tardigrades?

      As stated in the discussion, we believe that it would be challenging to perform pulse field electrophoresis in tardigrades. However, if possible, these experiments would certainly bring invaluable information to complement our analysis of DNA damage induced by IR.

      • "By comparative transcriptomics": please rephrase that sentence.

      • Proteins acting early in DNA repair: I am not sure I understand this sentence. Actors as ligases act not at the beginning of the repair pathways.

      Well noted. We have removed ligases from the list.

      • It is confusing that the authors mention NHEJ and double-strand break repair pathways as different pathways. There are 2 main pathways to repair DBSs: NHEJ and HR. It would be nice to add a reference to the sentence "PARP proteins act as sensors of DNA damage etc."

      A typo in the sentence gave rise to the misleading suggestion that NHEJ is not a double strand repair pathway. It has been corrected.

      A reference has been added for PARP proteins.

      • It would be nice if the authors can explain deeper their suggestion that degradation of DNA repair actors is essential for tardigrade IR resistance.

      We have expanded this part of the discussion and hope that it is clearer.

      “For XRCC5 and XRCC6, our studyestablished, by two independent methods, proteomics and Western blot analysies, that the stimulation at the protein level could be much more modest (6 and 20-fold at most (Supp Figure 6) than at the RNA level (420 and 90 fold respectively). This finding suggests that the abundance of DNA repair proteins does not simply increase massively to quantitatively match high numbers of DNA damages. Interestingly, in response to IR, the RNF146 ubiquitin ligase was also found to be strongly upregulated. RNF146 was previously shown to interact with PARylated XRCC5 and XRCC6 and to target them for degradation by the ubiquitin-proteasome system (Kang et al. 2011). To explain the lower fold stimulation of XRCC5 and XRCC6 at the protein levels, it is therefore tempting to speculate that, XRCC5 and XRCC6 protein levels (and perhaps that of other scaffolding complexes of DNA repair as well) are regulated by a dynamic balance of synthesis, promoted by gene overexpression, and degradation, made possible by RNF146 upregulation. Consistent with this hypothesis, we found that, similar to human RNF146 (Kang et al. 2011), He-RNF146 expression in human cells reduced the number of phospho-H2AX foci detected in response to Bleomycin (Figure 6).”

      • Page 15: Please add a reference for the sentence "Functional analysis of promotor sequences in transgenic tardigrades etc."

      The reference has been added to fix this omission.

      Material and Methods:

      Small comments:

      • 40 μm mesh: space missing

      • 100 μm mesh: space missing

      • (for Bleomycin)): parenthesis missing

      • remove "as indicated in the text"

      • The investigated time points after radiation need to be clearly stated in the method section. It is also unclear in the IR and Bleomycin section which tardigrades were treated with what. Not all were treated with Bleomycin.

      The small comments above have been fixed in the revised version of the manuscript.

      • Page 21: please precise the coverage of the RNA sequencing

      Statistics on mapping of RNAseq reads are now provided in Supp Table 10.

      • Page 22: Was any read trimming performed? Anything about the quality check of the reads?

      Trimming was conducted using trimmomatic (v0.39) and quality check using FastQC (v. ?) This information has been added to the Methods section.

      • Were the analyses confirmed by a second approach: for instance, EdgeR? Deseq2 and EdgeR do not always have the same results. For more robust analyses it is advised to use both.

      Differential transcriptome analyses were conducted with DESeq2 only. The robustness of our identification of differentially expressed genes in response to IR stems from performing comparative analyses in three different species, rather than from using two bioinformatics pipelines in a single species. We also note that benchmarking reported in the initial DEseq2 paper showed that identification of differentially expressed genes with large log fold changes (which, as reported in our manuscript, is characteristic of many DNA repair genes in response to IR) is very consistent between DEseq2 and EdgeR.

      Figures:

      • Figure 2: Legend vertical dotted line does not indicate log2foldchange value of 4 in all panels: it would be good to indicate for panels a and c as well.

      Figure 2has been improved following on the suggestions of the reviewer. Dotted lines now show log2foldchange value of 2 in all panels (ie Fold Change of 4 as mentioned in the main text).

      • Figure 2C: There are a few points with high log2foldchange which are not annotated: was it because nothing was found in the blast research? If yes, it would be good to indicate their functions. If not, it would be good to mention in the discussion that there are some genes with still unknown functions which might play an important role in the resistance of tardigrades to IR.

      The few points which are not annotated in figure 2c can now be found in Supp Table 3 Some of them have no hit in Blast search, some others such as BV898_09662 or BV898_07145 have hits on DNA repair genes as RBBP8/CtIP or XRCC6 respectively but are not annnotated as such by eggnog in KEGG pathway.

      • Figure 4C: Why not have included the response of P. fairbanski to bleomycin? I guess it was not done, but it is unclear in the results and methods sections.

      P.fairbanksi response to bleomycin wasn’t assessed as we didn’t get enough animals to run the study. The method section has been modified to precise this point.

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    1. Reviewer #1 (Public Review):

      Summary:

      The paper describes a program developed to identify PPI-hot spots using the free protein structure and compares it to FTMap and SPOTONE, two webservers that they consider as competitive approaches to the problem. On the positive side, I appreciate the effort in providing a new webserver that can be tested by the community but have two major concerns as follows.

      (1) The comparison to the FTMap program is wrong. The authors misinterpret the article they refer to, i.e., Zerbe et al. "Relationship between hot spot residues and ligand binding hot spots in protein-protein interfaces" J. Chem. Inf. Model. 52, 2236-2244, (2012). FTMap identifies hot spots that bind small molecular ligands. The Zerbe et al. article shows that such hot spots tend to interact with hot spot residues on the partner protein in a protein-protein complex (emphasis on "partner"). Thus, the hot spots identified by FTMap are not the hot spots defined by the authors. In fact, because the Zerbe paper considers the partner protein in a complex, the results cannot be compared to the results of Chen et al. This difference is missed by the authors, and hence the comparison of the FTMap is invalid. I did not investigate the comparison to SPOTONE, and hence have no opinion.

      (2) Chen et al. use a number of usual features in a variety of simple machine-learning methods to identify hot spot residues. This approach has been used in the literature for more than a decade. Although the authors say that they were able to find only FTMap and SPOTONE as servers, there are dozens of papers that describe such a methodology. Some examples are given here: (Higa and Tozzi, 2009; Keskin, et al., 2005; Lise, et al., 2011; Tuncbag, et al., 2009; Xia, et al., 2010). There are certainly more papers. Thus, while I consider the web server as a potentially useful contribution, the paper does not provide a fundamentally novel approach.

      Higa, R.H. and Tozzi, C.L. Prediction of binding hot spot residues by using structural and evolutionary parameters. Genet Mol Biol 2009;32(3):626-633.

      Keskin, O., Ma, B.Y. and Nussinov, R. Hot regions in protein-protein interactions: The organization and contribution of structurally conserved hot spot residues. J Mol Biol 2005;345(5):1281-1294.

      Lise, S., et al. Predictions of Hot Spot Residues at Protein-Protein Interfaces Using Support Vector Machines. PLoS One 2011;6(2).

      Tuncbag, N., Gursoy, A. and Keskin, O. Identification of computational hot spots in protein interfaces: combining solvent accessibility and inter-residue potentials improves the accuracy. Bioinformatics 2009;25(12):1513-1520.

      Xia, J.F., et al. APIS: accurate prediction of hot spots in protein interfaces by combining protrusion index with solvent accessibility. BMC Bioinformatics 2010;11:174.

      Strengths:<br /> A new web server was developed for detecting protein-protein interaction hot spots.

      Weaknesses:<br /> The comparison to FTMap results is wrong. The method is not novel.

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      Plantas podem - Comunicarem-se entre si - Pedir ajuda contra predadores - Algumas pode contar - Podem planejar determinadas ações - Tomates podem alterar a química de suas folhas, para estimular lagartas a se comerem umas às outras

      => Elas não tem cérebros, mas botânicos argumentam que a planta como um todo parece funcionar como um cérebro rudimentar, processando informações de modo distribuído

      => Além disso, se anestesiadas, elas se tornam como nós incapazes de reagir a estímulos exteriores

      => As plantas fazem sínteses químicas espontâneas, que convocam, por exemplo, predadores para acabar com pragas que as agridem.

      => São capazes de atrair agentes polinizadores

      => Estas considerações são importantes porque, como ocorre com o reconhecimento da senciência em animais, somos convocados para pensar o primado do exclusivismo humano

      => **Em resumo: 1) não somos o centro da criação. 2) a natureza não tende à perfeição teoricamente encarnada pelos seres humanos. 3) a natureza, muito provavelmente, experimenta e joga com todas as possibilidades e tudo é resultado desse jogo, sem um telos como nossa metafísica tem predicado

    1. Reduced sediment flow: “Sediment retention in the reservoirs results in the release of sediment-depleted water, which subsequently erodes downstream riverbanks and floodplains, thereby reducing the productivity of floodplain agriculture and pastoralism”. The effects of this have been apparent in the fact that the river has changed shape due to the increased sediment making it erode some of the river banks.

      Okuku, Eric O. “Role of a Cascade of Reservoirs in Regulating Downstream Transport of Sediment, Carbon and Nutrients; Case Study of Tropical Arid Climate Tana River Basin.” Lakes and Reservoirs 23, no. 1 (March 1, 2018): 43–55. doi:10.1111/lre.12206.

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      We extend our gratitude to the reviewers for their time and valuable feedback on our manuscript. We especially appreciate the insightful suggestions that have significantly contributed to refining our work and elucidating our findings. With the revisions made to the text and the inclusion of new experimental data, we believe our manuscript now effectively addresses all reviewer comments. We eagerly await your evaluation of our revised submission.

      Small ARF-like GTPases play fundamental roles in dynamic signaling processes linked with vesicular trafficking in eukaryotes. Despite of their evolutionary conservation, there is little known about the ARF-like GTPase functions in plants. Our manuscript reports the biochemical and cell biological characterization of the small ARF-like GTPase TTN5 from the model plant Arabidopsis thaliana*. Fundamental investigations like ours are mostly lacking for ARF and ARL GTPases in Arabidopsis. *

      We employed fluorescence-based enzymatic assays suited to uncover different types of the very rapid GTPase activities for TTN5. The experimental findings are now illustrated in a more comprehensive modified Figure 2 and in the form of a summary of the GTPase activities for TTN5 and its mutant variants in the NEW Figure 7A in the Discussion part. Taken together, we found that TTN5 is a non-classical GTPase based on its enzymatic kinetics. The reviewers appreciated these findings and highlighted them as being „impressive in vitro biochemical characterization" and "major conceptual advance". Since such experiments are "uncommon" for being conducted with plant GTPases, reviewers regarded this analysis as "useful addition to the plant community in general". The significance of these findings is given by the circumstance that „the ARF-like proteins are poorly addressed in Arabidopsis while they could reveal completely different function than the canonical known ARF proteins". Reviewers saw here clearly a "strength" of the manuscript.

      With regard to the cell biological investigation and initial assessment of cell physiological roles of TTN5, we now provide requested additional evidence. First of all, we provide NEW data on the localization of TTN5 by immunolocalization using a complementing HA3-TTN5 construct, supporting our initial suggestions that TTN5 may be associated with vesicles and processes of the endomembrane system. The previous preprint version had left the reviewers „less convinced" of cell biological data due to the lack of complementation of our YFP-TTN5 construct, lack of Western blot data and the low resolution of microscopic images. We fully agree that these points were of concern and needed to be addressed. We have therefore intensively worked on these „weaknesses" and present now a more detailed whole-mount immunostaining series with the complementing HA3-TTN5 transgenic line (NEW Figure 4, NEW Figure 3P), Western blot data (NEW Supplementary Figures S7C and D), and we will provide all original images upon publication of our manuscript at BioImage Archives which will provide the high quality for re-analysis. BioImage Archives is an online storage for biological image data associated with a peer-reviewed publication. This way, readers will be able to inspect each image in detail. The immunolocalization data are of particular importance as they indicate that HA3-TTN5 can be associated with punctate vesicle structures and BFA bodies as seen with YFP studies of YFP-TTN5 seedlings. We have re-phrased very carefully and emphasized those localization patterns which are backed up by immunostaining and YFP fluorescence detection of YFP-TTN5 signals. To improve the comprehension, the findings are summarized in a schematic overview in NEW Figure 7B of the Discussion. We have also addressed all other comments related to the cell biological experiments to "provide the substantial improvement" that had been requested. We emphasize that we found two cell physiological phenotypes for the TTN5T30N mutant. YFP-TTN5T30N confers phenotypes, which are differing mobility of the fluorescent vesicles in the epidermis of hypocotyls (see Video material and NEW Supplementary Video Material S1M-O), and a root growth phenotype of transgenic HA3-TTN5T30N seedlings (NEW Figure 3O). We explain the cell physiological phenotypes in relation to enzymatic GTPase data. These findings convince us of the validity of the YFP-TTN5 analysis indicative of TTN5 localization.

      *We are deeply thankful to the reviewers for judging our manuscript as "generally well written", "important" and "of interest to a wide range of plant scientists" and "for scientists working in the trafficking field" as it "holds significance" and will form the basis for future functional studies of TTN5. *

      We prepared very carefully our revised manuscript in which we address all reviewer comments one by one. Please find our revision and our detailed rebuttal to all reviewer comments below. Changes in the revised version are highlighted by yellow and green color. In the "revised version with highlighted changes".

      With these adjustments, we hope that our peer-reviewed study will receive a positive response.

      We are looking forward to your evaluation of our revised manuscript and thank you in advance,

      Sincerely

      Petra Bauer and Inga Mohr on behalf of all authors

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      __Reviewer #1 (Evidence, reproducibility and clarity (Required)): __

      The manuscript from Mohr and collaborators reports the characterization of an ARF-like GTPase of Arabidopsis. Small GTPases of the ARF family play crucial role in intracellular trafficking and plant physiology. The ARF-like proteins are poorly addressed in Arabidopsis while they could reveal completely different function than the canonical known ARF proteins. Thus, the aim of the study is important and could be of interest to a wide range of plant scientists. I am impressed by the biochemical characterization of the TTN5 protein and its mutated versions, this is clearly a very nice point of the paper and allows for proper interpretations of the other results. However, I was much less convinced on the cell biology part of this manuscript and aside from the subcellular localization of the TTN5 I think the paper would benefit from a more functional angle. Below are my comments to improve the manuscript:

      1- In the different pictures and movies, TTN5 is quite clearly appearing as a typical ER-like pattern. The pattern of localization further extends to dotty-like structures and structures labeled only at the periphery of the structure, with a depletion of fluorescence inside the structure. These observations raise several points. First, the ER pattern is never mentioned in the manuscript while I think it can be clearly observed. Given that the YFP-TTN5 construct is not functional (the mutant phenotype is not rescued) the ER-localization could be due to the retention at the ER due to quality control. The HA-TTN5 construct is functional but to me its localization shows a quite different pattern from the YFP version, I do not see the ER for example or the periphery-labeled structures. In this case, it will be a crucial point to perform co-localization experiments between HA-TTN5 and organelles markers to confirm that the functional TTN5 construct is labeling the Golgi and MVBs, as does the non-functional one. I am also quite sure that a co-localization between YFP-TTN5 and HA-TTN5 will not completely match... The ER is contacting so many organelles that the localization of YFP-TTN5 might not reflects the real location of the protein.

      __Our response: __

      At first, we like to state that specific detection of intracellular localization of plant proteins in plant cells is generally technically very difficult, when the protein abundance is not overly high. In this revised version, we extended immunostaining analysis to different membrane compartments, including now immunostaining of complementing HA3-TTN5 in the absence and presence of BFA, along with immunodetection of ARF1 and FM4-64 labeling in roots (NEW Figure 3P, NEW Figure 4A, B). In the revised version, we focus the analysis and conclusions on the fluorescence patterns that overlap between YFP-TTN5 detection and HA3-TTN5 immunodetection. With this, we can be most confident about subcellular TTN5 localization. Please find this NEW text in the Result section (starting Line 323):

      „For a more detailed investigation of HA3-TTN5 subcellular localization, we then performed co-immunofluorescence staining with an Alexa 488-labeled antibody recognizing the Golgi and TGN marker ARF1, while detecting HA3-TTN5 with an Alexa 555-labeled antibody (Robinson et al. 2011, Singh et al. 2018) (Figure 4A). ARF1-Alexa 488 staining was clearly visible in punctate structures representing presumably Golgi stacks (Figure 4A, Alexa 488), as previously reported (Singh et al. 2018). Similar structures were obtained for HA3-TTN5-Alexa 555 staining (Figure 4A, Alexa 555). But surprisingly, colocalization analysis demonstrated that the HA3-TTN5-labeled structures were mostly not colocalizing and thus distinct from the ARF1-labeled ones (Figure 4A). Yet the HA3-TTN5- and ARF1-labeled structures were in close proximity to each other (Figure 4A). We hypothesized that the HA3-TTN5 structures can be connected to intracellular trafficking steps. To test this, we performed brefeldin A (BFA) treatment, a commonly used tool in cell biology for preventing dynamic membrane trafficking events and vesicle transport involving the Golgi. BFA is a fungal macrocyclic lactone that leads to a loss of cis-cisternae and accumulation of Golgi stacks, known as BFA-induced compartments, up to the fusion of the Golgi with the ER (Ritzenthaler et al. 2002, Wang et al. 2016). For a better identification of BFA bodies, we additionally used the dye FM4-64, which can emit fluorescence in a lipophilic membrane environment. FM4-64 marks the plasma membrane in the first minutes following application to the cell, then may be endocytosed and in the presence of BFA become accumulated in BFA bodies (Bolte et al. 2004). We observed BFA bodies positive for both, HA3-TTN5-Alexa 488 and FM4-64 signals (Figure 4B). Similar patterns were observed for YFP-TTN5-derived signals in YFP-TTN5-expressing roots (Figure 4C). Hence, HA3-TTN5 and YFP-TTN5 can be present in similar subcellular membrane compartments."

      We did not find evidence that HA3-TTN5 can localize at the ER using whole-mount immunostaining (NEW Figure 3P; NEW Figure 4A, B). Hence, we are careful with describing that fluorescence at the ER, as seen in the YFP-TTN5 line (Figure 3M, N) reflects TTN5 localization. We therefore do not focus the text on the ER pattern in the Result section (starting Line 295):

      „Additionally, YFP signals were also detected in a net-like pattern typical for ER localization (Figure 3M, N). (...) We also found multiple YFP bands in α-GFP Western blot analysis using YFP-TTN5 Arabidopsis seedlings. Besides the expected and strong 48 kDa YFP-TTN5 band, we observed three weak bands ranging between 26 to 35 kDa (Supplementary Figure S7C). We cannot explain the presence of these small protein bands. They might correspond to free YFP, to proteolytic products or potentially to proteins produced from aberrant transcripts with perhaps alternative translation start or stop sites. On the other side, a triple hemagglutinin-tagged HA3-TTN5 driven by the 35S promoter did complement the embryo-lethal phenotype of ttn5-1 (Supplementary Figure S7D, E). α-HA Western blot control performed with plant material from HA3-TTN5 seedlings showed a single band at the correct size, but no band that was 13 to 18 kDa smaller (Supplementary Figure S7D). (...) We did not observe any staining in nuclei or ER when performing HA3-TTN5 immunostaining (Figure 3P; Figure 4A, B), as was the case for fluorescence signals in YFP-TTN5-expressing cells. Presumably, this can indicate that either the nuclear and ER signals seen with YFP-TTN5 correspond to the smaller proteins detected, as described above, or that immunostaining was not suited to detect them. Hence, we focused interpretation on patterns of localization overlapping between the fluorescence staining with YFP-labeled TTN5 and with HA3-TTN5 immunostaining, such as the particular signal patterns in the specific punctate membrane structures."

      *And we discuss in the Discussion section (starting Line 552): *

      „We based the TTN5 localization data on tagging approaches with two different detection methods to enhance reliability of specific protein detection. Even though YFP-TTN5 did not complement the embryo-lethality of a ttn5 loss of function mutant, we made several observations that suggest YFP-TTN5 signals to be meaningful at various membrane sites. We do not know why YFP-TTN5 does not complement. There could be differences in TTN5 levels and interactions in some cell types, which were hindering specifically YFP-TTN5 but not HA3-TTN5. (...) Though constitutively driven, the YFP-TTN5 expression may be delayed or insufficient at the early embryonic stages resulting in the lack of embryo-lethal complementation. On the other hand, the very fast nucleotide exchange activity may be hindered by the presence of a large YFP-tag in comparison with the small HA3-tag which is able to rescue the embryo-lethality. The lack of complementation represents a challenge for the localization of small GTPases with rapid nucleotide exchange in plants. Despite of these limitations, we made relevant observations in our data that made us believe that YFP signals in YFP-TTN5-expressing cells at membrane sites can be meaningful."

      2- What are the structures with TTN5 fluorescence depleted at the center that appear in control conditions? They look different from the Golgi labeled by Man1 but similar to MVBs upon wortmannin treatment, except that in control conditions MVBs never appear like this. Are they related to any kind of vacuolar structures that would be involved in quality control-induced degradation of non-functional proteins?

      Our response:

      The reviewer certainly refers to fluorescence images from N. benthamiana leaf epidermal cells where different circularly shaped structures are visible. In these respective structures, the fluorescent circles are depleted from fluorescence in the center, e.g. in Figure 5C, YFP- fluorescent signals in TTN5T30N transformed leaf discs. We suspect that these structures can be of vacuolar origin as described for similar fluorescent rings in Tichá et al., 2020 for ANNI-GFP (reference in manuscript). The reviewer certainly does not refer to swollen MVBs that are seen following wortmannin treatment, as in Figure 5N-P, which look similar in their shape but are larger in size. Please note that we always included the control conditions, namely the images recorded before the wortmannin treatment, so that we were able to investigate the changes induced by wortmannin. Hence, we can clearly say that the structures with depleted fluorescence in the center as in Figure 5C are not wortmannin-induced swollen MVBs.To make these points clear to the reader, we added an explanation into the text (Line 385-388):

      „We also observed YFP fluorescence signals in the form of circularly shaped ring structures with a fluorescence-depleted center. These structures can be of vacuolar origin as described for similar fluorescent rings in Tichá et al. (2020) for ANNI-GFP."

      3- The fluorescence at nucleus could be due to a proportion of YFP-TTN5 that is degraded and released free-GFP, a western-blot of the membrane fraction vs the cytosolic fraction could help solving this issue.

      Our response:

      In an α-GFP Western blot using YFP-TTN5 Arabidopsis seedlings, we detected besides the expected and strong 48 kDa YFP-TTN5 band, three additional weak bands ranging between 26 to 35 kDa (NEW Supplementary Figure S7C). We cannot explain the presence of these small protein bands. They might correspond to free YFP, to proteolytic products or potentially to proteins expressed from aberrant transcripts. α-HA Western blot controls performed with plant material from HA3-TTN5 seedlings showed a single band at the correct size (Supplementary Figure S7D). We must therefore be cautious about nuclear TTN5 localization and we rephrased the text carefully (starting Line 300):

      „We also found multiple YFP bands in α-GFP Western blot analysis using YFP-TTN5 Arabidopsis seedlings. Besides the expected and strong 48 kDa YFP-TTN5 band, we observed three weak bands ranging between 26 to 35 kDa (Supplementary Figure S7C). We cannot explain the presence of these small protein bands. They might correspond to free YFP, to proteolytic products or potentially to proteins produced from aberrant transcripts with perhaps alternative translation start or stop sites. On the other side, a triple hemagglutinin-tagged HA3-TTN5 driven by the 35S promoter did complement the embryo-lethal phenotype of ttn5-1 (Supplementary Figure S7D, E). α-HA Western blot control performed with plant material from HA3-TTN5 seedlings showed a single band at the correct size, but no band that was 13 to 18 kDa smaller (Supplementary Figure S7D). (...) We did not observe any staining in nuclei or ER when performing HA3-TTN5 immunostaining (Figure 3P; Figure 4A, B), as was the case for fluorescence signals in YFP-TTN5-expressing cells. Presumably, this can indicate that either the nuclear and ER signals seen with YFP-TTN5 correspond to the smaller proteins detected, as described above, or that immunostaining was not suited to detect them. Hence, we focused interpretation on patterns of localization overlapping between the fluorescence staining with YFP-labeled TTN5 and with HA3-TTN5 immunostaining, such as the particular signal patterns in the specific punctate membrane structures."

      4- It is not so easy to conclude from the co-localization experiments. The confocal pictures are not always of high quality, some of them appear blurry. The Golgi localization looks convincing, but the BFA experiments are not that clear. The MVB localization is pretty convincing but the images are blurry. An issue is the quantification of the co-localizations. Several methods were employed but they do not provide consistent results. As for the object-based co-localization method, the authors employ in the text co-localization result either base on the % of YFP-labeled structures or the % of mCherry/mRFP-labeled structures, but the results are not going always in the same direction. For example, the proportion of YFP-TTN5 that co-localize with MVBs is not so different between WT and mutated version but the proportion of MVBs that co-localize with TTN5 is largely increased in the Q70L mutant. Thus it is quite difficult to interpret homogenously and in an unbiased way these results. Moreover, the results coming from the centroid-based method were presented in a table rather than a graph, I think here the authors wanted to hide the huge standard deviation of these results, what is the statistical meaning of these results?

      Our response:

      First of all, we like to point out that, as explained above, the BFA experiments are now more clear. We performed additional BFA treatment coupled with immunostaining using HA3-TTN5-expressing Arabidopsis seedlings and coupled with fluorescence analysis using YFP-TTN5-expressing Arabidopsis plants. In both experiments, we observed the typical BFA bodies very clearly (NEW Figure 4B, C).

      Second, we like to insist that we performed colocalization very carefully and quantified the data in three different manners. We like to state that there is no general standardized procedure that best suits the idea of a colocalization pattern. Results of colocalization are represented in stem diagrams and table format, including statistical analysis. Colocalization was carried out with the ImageJ plugin JACoP for Pearson's and Overlap coefficients and based on the centroid method. The plotted Pearson's and Overlap coefficients are presented in bar diagrams in Supplementary Figure S8A and C, including statistics. The obtained values by the centroid method are represented in table format in Supplementary Figure S8B and D, which *can be considered a standard method (see Ivanov et al., 2014). *

      Colocalization of two different fluorescence signals was performed for the two channels in a specific chosen region of interest (indicating in % the overlapping signal versus the sum of signal for each channel). The differences between the YFP/mRFP and mRFP/YFP ratios indicate that a higher percentage of ARA7-RFP signal is colocalizing with YFP-TTN5Q70L signal than with the TTN5WT or the TTN5T30N mutant form signals, while the YFP signals have a similar overlap with ARA7-positive structures. This is not a contradiction. Presumably this answers well the questions on colocalization.

      Please note that upon acceptance for publication, we will upload all original colocalization data to BioImage Archive. Hence, the high-quality data can be reanalyzed by readers.

      5- The use of FM4-64 to address the vacuolar trafficking is a hazardous, FM4-64 allows the tracking of endocytosis but does not say anything on vacuolar degradation targeting and even less on the potential function of TTN5 in endosomal vacuolar targeting. Similarly, TTN5, even if localized at the Golgi, is not necessarily function in Golgi-trafficking. __Our response: __

      *Perhaps our previous description was misleading. Thank you for pointing this out. We reformulated the text and modified the schematic representation of FM4-64 in NEW Figure 6A: *

      "(A), Schematic representation of progressive stages of FM4-64 localization and internalization in a cell. FM4-64 is a lipophilic substance. After infiltration, it first localizes in the plasma membrane, at later stages it localizes to intracellular vesicles and membrane compartments. This localization pattern reflects the endocytosis process (Bolte et al. 2004)."

      6- The manuscript lacks in its present shape of functional evidences for a role of TTN5 in any trafficking steps. I understand that the KO mutant is lethal but what are the phenotypes of the Q70L and T30N mutant plants? What is the seedling phenotype, how are the Golgi and MVBs looking like in these mutants? Do the Q70L or T30N mutants perturbed the trafficking of any cargos?

      __Our response: __

      *We agree fully that functional evidences are interesting to assign roles for TTN5 in trafficking steps. A phenotype associated with TTN5T30N and TTN5Q70L is clearly meaningful. *

      First of all, we like to emphasize that it is incorrect that the manuscript lacks functional evidences for a role of TTN5 and the two mutants. In fact, the manuscript even highlights several functional activities that are meaningful in a cellular context. These include different types of kinetic GTPase enzyme activities, subcellular localization in planta and association with different endomembrane compartments and subcellular processes such as endocytosis. We surely agree that future research can focus even more on cell physiological aspects and the physiological functions in plants to examine the proposed roles of TTN5 in intracellular trafficking steps. For such studies, our findings are the fundamental basis.

      Concerning the aspect of colocalization of the mutants with the markers we show in Figure 5C, D and G, H that YFP-TTN5T30N- and YFP-TTN5Q70L-related signals colocalize with the Golgi marker GmMan1-mCherry. Figure 5K, L and O, P show that YFP-TTN5T30N and YFP-TTN5Q70L-related signals can colocalize with the MVB marker, and this may affect relevant vesicle trafficking processes and plasma membrane protein regulation involved in root cell elongation.

      *At present, we have not yet investigated perturbed cargo trafficking. These aspects are certainly interesting but require extensive work and testing of appropriate physiological conditions and appropriate cargo targets. We discuss future perspectives in the Discussion. We agree that such functional information is of great importance, but needs to be clarified in future studies. *

      __Reviewer #1 (Significance (Required)): __

      In conclusion, I think this manuscript is a good biochemical description of an ARF-like protein but it would need to be strengthen on the cell biology and functional sides. Nonetheless, provided these limitations fixed, this manuscript would advance our knowledge of small GTPases in plants. The major conceptual advance of that study is to provide a non-canonical behavior of the active/inactive cycle dynamics for a small-GTPase. Of course this dynamic probably has an impact on TTN5 function and involvement in trafficking, although this remains to be fully demonstrated. Provided a substantial amount of additional experiments to support the claims of that study, this study could be of general interest for scientist working in the trafficking field.

      __Our response: __

      We thank reviewer 1 for the very fruitful comments. We hope that with the additional experiments, NEW Figures and NEW Supplementary Figures as well as our changes in the text, all comments by the reviewer have been addressed.

      __Reviewer #2 (Evidence, reproducibility and clarity (Required)): __

      The manuscript by Mohr and colleagues characterizes the Arabidopsis predicted small GTPase TITAN5 in both biochemical and cell biology contexts using in vitro and in planta techniques. In the first half of the manuscript, the authors use in vitro nucleotide exchange assays to characterise the GTPase activity and nucleotide binding properties of TITAN5 and two mutant variants of it. The in vitro data they produce indicates that TITAN5 does indeed have general GTPase and nucleotide binding capability that would be expected for a protein predicted to be a small GTPase. Interestingly, the authors show that TITAN5 favors a GTP-bound form, which is different to many other characterized GTPases that favor GDP-binding. The authors follow their biochemical characterisation of TITAN with in planta experiments characterizing TITAN5 and its mutant variants association with the plant endomembrane system, both by stable expression in Arabidopsis and transient expression in N.benthamiana.

      The strength of this manuscript is in its in vitro biochemical characterisation of TITAN5 and variants. I am not an expert on in vitro GTPase characterisation and so cannot comment specifically on the assays they have used, but generally speaking this appears to have been well done, and the authors are to be commended for it. In vitro characterisation of plant small GTPases is uncommon, and much of our knowledge is inferred for work on animal or yeast GTPases, so this will be a useful addition to the plant community in general, especially as TITAN5 is an essential gene. The in planta data that follows is sadly not as compelling as the biochemical data, and suffers from several weaknesses. I would encourage the authors to consider trying to improve the quality of the in planta data in general. If improved and then combined with the biochemical aspects of the paper, this has the potential to make a nice addition to plant small GTPase and endomembrane literature.

      The manuscript is generally well written and includes the relevant literature.

      Major issues:

      1. The authors make use of a p35s: YFP-TTN5 construct (and its mutant variants) both stably in Arabidopsis and transiently in N.benthamiana. I know from personal experience that expressing small GTPases from non-endogenous promoters and in transient expression systems can give very different results to when working from endogenous promoters/using immunolocalization in stable expression systems. Strong over-expression could for example explain why the authors see high 'cytosolic' levels of YFP-TTN5. It is therefore questionable how much of the in planta localisation data presented using p35S and expression in tobacco is of true relevance to the biological function of TITAN5. The authors do present some immunolocalization data of HA3-TTN5 in Arabidopsis, but this is fairly limited and it is very difficult in its current form to use this to identify whether the data from YFP-TTN5 in Arabidopsis and tobacco can be corroborated. I would encourage the authors to consider expanding the immunolocalization data they present to validate their findings in tobacco. __Our response: __

      We are aware that endogenous promoters may be preferred over 35S promoter. However, the two types of lines we generated with endogenous promoter did both not show fluorescent signals so that we could unfortunately not use them (not shown). Besides 35S promoter-mediated expression we were also investigating inducible expression vectors for fluorescence imaging in N. benthamiana (not shown). Both inducible and constitutive expression showed very similar expression patterns so that we chose characterizing in detail the 35S::YFP-TTN5 fluorescence in both N. bethamiana*and Arabidopsis. *

      We have expanded immunolocalization using the HA3-TTN5 line and compare it now along with YFP fluorescence signal in YFP-TTN5 seedlings (NEW Figure 3P; NEW Figure 4).

      „For a more detailed investigation of HA3-TTN5 subcellular localization, we then performed co-immunofluorescence staining with an Alexa 488-labeled antibody recognizing the Golgi and TGN marker ARF1, while detecting HA3-TTN5 with an Alexa 555-labeled antibody (Robinson et al. 2011, Singh et al. 2018) (Figure 4A). ARF1-Alexa 488 staining was clearly visible in punctate structures representing presumably Golgi stacks (Figure 4A, Alexa 488), as previously reported (Singh et al. 2018). Similar structures were obtained for HA3-TTN5-Alexa 555 staining (Figure 4A, Alexa 555). But surprisingly, colocalization analysis demonstrated that the HA3-TTN5-labeled structures were mostly not colocalizing and thus distinct from the ARF1-labeled ones (Figure 4A). Yet the HA3-TTN5- and ARF1-labeled structures were in close proximity to each other (Figure 4A). We hypothesized that the HA3-TTN5 structures can be connected to intracellular trafficking steps. To test this, we performed brefeldin A (BFA) treatment, a commonly used tool in cell biology for preventing dynamic membrane trafficking events and vesicle transport involving the Golgi. BFA is a fungal macrocyclic lactone that leads to a loss of cis-cisternae and accumulation of Golgi stacks, known as BFA-induced compartments, up to the fusion of the Golgi with the ER (Ritzenthaler et al. 2002, Wang et al. 2016). For a better identification of BFA bodies, we additionally used the dye FM4-64, which can emit fluorescence in a lipophilic membrane environment. FM4-64 marks the plasma membrane in the first minutes following application to the cell, then may be endocytosed and in the presence of BFA become accumulated in BFA bodies (Bolte et al. 2004). We observed BFA bodies positive for both, HA3-TTN5-Alexa 488 and FM4-64 signals (Figure 4B). Similar patterns were observed for YFP-TTN5-derived signals in YFP-TTN5-expressing roots (Figure 4C). Hence, HA3-TTN5 and YFP-TTN5 can be present in similar subcellular membrane compartments."

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      Many of the confocal images presented are of poor quality, particularly those from N.benthamiana.

      Our response:

      All confocal images are of high quality in their original format. To make them accessible, we will upload all raw data to BioImage Archive upon acceptance of the manuscript.

      The authors in some places see YFP-TTN5 in cell nuclei. This could be a result of YFP-cleavage rather than genuine nuclear localisation of YFP-TTN5, but the authors do not present western blots to check for this.

      __Our response: __

      As described in our response to reviewer 1, comment 3, Fluorescence signals were detected within the nuclei of root cells of YFP-TTN5 plants, while immunostaining signals of HA3-TTN5 were not detected in the nucleus. In an α-GFP Western blot using YFP-TTN5 Arabidopsis seedlings, we detected besides the expected and strong 48 kDa YFP-TTN5 band, three additional weak bands ranging between 26 to 35 kDa (NEW Supplementary Figure S7C). We cannot explain the presence of these small protein bands. They might correspond to free YFP, to proteolytic products or potentially to proteins expressed from aberrant transcripts. α-HA Western blot controls performed with plant material from HA3-TTN5 seedlings showed a single band at the correct size (Supplementary Figure S7D). We must therefore be cautious about nuclear TTN5 localization and we rephrased the text carefully (starting Line 300):

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      „We also found multiple YFP bands in α-GFP Western blot analysis using YFP-TTN5 Arabidopsis seedlings. Besides the expected and strong 48 kDa YFP-TTN5 band, we observed three weak bands ranging between 26 to 35 kDa (Supplementary Figure S7C). We cannot explain the presence of these small protein bands. They might correspond to free YFP, to proteolytic products or potentially to proteins produced from aberrant transcripts with perhaps alternative translation start or stop sites. On the other side, a triple hemagglutinin-tagged HA3-TTN5 driven by the 35S promoter did complement the embryo-lethal phenotype of ttn5-1 (Supplementary Figure S7D, E). α-HA Western blot control performed with plant material from HA3-TTN5 seedlings showed a single band at the correct size, but no band that was 13 to 18 kDa smaller (Supplementary Figure S7D). (...) We did not observe any staining in nuclei or ER when performing HA3-TTN5 immunostaining (Figure 3P; Figure 4A, B), as was the case for fluorescence signals in YFP-TTN5-expressing cells. Presumably, this can indicate that either the nuclear and ER signals seen with YFP-TTN5 correspond to the smaller proteins detected, as described above, or that immunostaining was not suited to detect them. Hence, we focused interpretation on patterns of localization overlapping between the fluorescence staining with YFP-labeled TTN5 and with HA3-TTN5 immunostaining, such as the particular signal patterns in the specific punctate membrane structures."

      That YFP-TTN5 fails to rescue the ttn5 mutant indicates that YFP-tagged TTN5 may not be functional. If the authors cannot corroborate the YFP-TTN5 localisation pattern with that of HA3-TTN5 via immunolocalization, then the fact that YFP-TTN5 may not be functional calls into question the biological relevance of YFP-TTN5's localisation pattern.

      __Our response: __

      This refers to your comment 1, please check this comment for a detailed response. Please also see our answer to reviewer 1, comment 1.

      At first, we like to state that specific detection of intracellular localization of plant proteins in plant cells is generally technically very difficult, when the protein abundance is not overly high. In this revised version, we extended immunostaining analysis to different membrane compartments, including now immunostaining of complementing HA3-TTN5 in the absence and presence of BFA, along with immunodetection of ARF1 and FM4-64 labeling in roots (NEW Figure 3P, NEW Figure 4A, B). In the revised version, we focus the analysis and conclusions on the fluorescence patterns that overlap between YFP-TTN5 detection and HA3-TTN5 immunodetection. With this, we can be most confident about subcellular TTN5 localization. Please find this NEW text in the Result section (starting Line 323):

      „For a more detailed investigation of HA3-TTN5 subcellular localization, we then performed co-immunofluorescence staining with an Alexa 488-labeled antibody recognizing the Golgi and TGN marker ARF1, while detecting HA3-TTN5 with an Alexa 555-labeled antibody (Robinson et al. 2011, Singh et al. 2018) (Figure 4A). ARF1-Alexa 488 staining was clearly visible in punctate structures representing presumably Golgi stacks (Figure 4A, Alexa 488), as previously reported (Singh et al. 2018). Similar structures were obtained for HA3-TTN5-Alexa 555 staining (Figure 4A, Alexa 555). But surprisingly, colocalization analysis demonstrated that the HA3-TTN5-labeled structures were mostly not colocalizing and thus distinct from the ARF1-labeled ones (Figure 4A). Yet the HA3-TTN5- and ARF1-labeled structures were in close proximity to each other (Figure 4A). We hypothesized that the HA3-TTN5 structures can be connected to intracellular trafficking steps. To test this, we performed brefeldin A (BFA) treatment, a commonly used tool in cell biology for preventing dynamic membrane trafficking events and vesicle transport involving the Golgi. BFA is a fungal macrocyclic lactone that leads to a loss of cis-cisternae and accumulation of Golgi stacks, known as BFA-induced compartments, up to the fusion of the Golgi with the ER (Ritzenthaler et al. 2002, Wang et al. 2016). For a better identification of BFA bodies, we additionally used the dye FM4-64, which can emit fluorescence in a lipophilic membrane environment. FM4-64 marks the plasma membrane in the first minutes following application to the cell, then may be endocytosed and in the presence of BFA become accumulated in BFA bodies (Bolte et al. 2004). We observed BFA bodies positive for both, HA3-TTN5-Alexa 488 and FM4-64 signals (Figure 4B). Similar patterns were observed for YFP-TTN5-derived signals in YFP-TTN5-expressing roots (Figure 4C). Hence, HA3-TTN5 and YFP-TTN5 can be present in similar subcellular membrane compartments."

      We did not find evidence that HA3-TTN5 can localize at the ER using whole-mount immunostaining (NEW Figure 3P; NEW Figure 4A, B). Hence, we are careful with describing that fluorescence at the ER, as seen in the YFP-TTN5 line (Figure 3M, N) reflects TTN5 localization. We therefore do not focus the text on the ER pattern in the Result section (starting Line 295):

      „Additionally, YFP signals were also detected in a net-like pattern typical for ER localization (Figure 3M, N). (...) We also found multiple YFP bands in α-GFP Western blot analysis using YFP-TTN5 Arabidopsis seedlings. Besides the expected and strong 48 kDa YFP-TTN5 band, we observed three weak bands ranging between 26 to 35 kDa (Supplementary Figure S7C). We cannot explain the presence of these small protein bands. They might correspond to free YFP, to proteolytic products or potentially to proteins produced from aberrant transcripts with perhaps alternative translation start or stop sites. On the other side, a triple hemagglutinin-tagged HA3-TTN5 driven by the 35S promoter did complement the embryo-lethal phenotype of ttn5-1 (Supplementary Figure S7D, E). α-HA Western blot control performed with plant material from HA3-TTN5 seedlings showed a single band at the correct size, but no band that was 13 to 18 kDa smaller (Supplementary Figure S7D). (...) We did not observe any staining in nuclei or ER when performing HA3-TTN5 immunostaining (Figure 3P; Figure 4A, B), as was the case for fluorescence signals in YFP-TTN5-expressing cells. Presumably, this can indicate that either the nuclear and ER signals seen with YFP-TTN5 correspond to the smaller proteins detected, as described above, or that immunostaining was not suited to detect them. Hence, we focused interpretation on patterns of localization overlapping between the fluorescence staining with YFP-labeled TTN5 and with HA3-TTN5 immunostaining, such as the particular signal patterns in the specific punctate membrane structures."

      *And we discuss in the Discussion section (starting Line 552): *

      „We based the TTN5 localization data on tagging approaches with two different detection methods to enhance reliability of specific protein detection. Even though YFP-TTN5 did not complement the embryo-lethality of a ttn5 loss of function mutant, we made several observations that suggest YFP-TTN5 signals to be meaningful at various membrane sites. We do not know why YFP-TTN5 does not complement. There could be differences in TTN5 levels and interactions in some cell types, which were hindering specifically YFP-TTN5 but not HA3-TTN5. (...) Though constitutively driven, the YFP-TTN5 expression may be delayed or insufficient at the early embryonic stages resulting in the lack of embryo-lethal complementation. On the other hand, the very fast nucleotide exchange activity may be hindered by the presence of a large YFP-tag in comparison with the small HA3-tag which is able to rescue the embryo-lethality. The lack of complementation represents a challenge for the localization of small GTPases with rapid nucleotide exchange in plants. Despite of these limitations, we made relevant observations in our data that made us believe that YFP signals in YFP-TTN5-expressing cells at membrane sites can be meaningful."

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      Without a cell wall label/dye, the plasmolysis data presented in Figure 5 is hard to visualize.

      __Our response: __

      Figure 6E-G (previously Fig. 5) show the results of plasmolysis experiments with YFP-TTN5 and the two mutant variant constructs. It is clearly possible to observe plasmolysis when focusing on the Hechtian strands. Hechtian strands are formed due to the retraction of the protoplast as a result of the osmotic pressure by the added mannitol solution. Hechtian strands consist of PM which remained in contact with the cell wall, visible as thin filamental structures. We stained the PM and the Hechtian strands by the PM dye FM4-64. This is similary done in Yoneda et al., 2020. We could detect in the YFP-TTN5-transformed cells, colocalization with the YFP channels and the PM dye in filamental structures between two neighbouring FM4-64-labelled PMs. Although an additional labeling of the cell wall may further indicate plasmolysis, it is not needed here.

      Please consider that we will upload all original image data to BioImage Archive so that a detailed re-investigation of the images can be done.

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      In some of the presented N.benthamiana images, it looks like YFP-TTN5 may be partially ER-localised. However, co-localisation with an ER marker is not presented.

      Our response:

      *Referring to our response to comments 1 and 3 of reviewer 2 and to comment 1 of reviewer 1: *

      We did not find evidence that HA3-TTN5 can localize at the ER using whole-mount immunostaining (NEW Figure 3P; NEW Figure 4A, B). Hence, we are careful with describing that fluorescence at the ER, as seen in the YFP-TTN5 line (Figure 3M, N) reflects TTN5 localization. We therefore do not focus the text on the ER pattern in the Result section (starting Line 295):

      „Additionally, YFP signals were also detected in a net-like pattern typical for ER localization (Figure 3M, N). (...) We also found multiple YFP bands in α-GFP Western blot analysis using YFP-TTN5 Arabidopsis seedlings. Besides the expected and strong 48 kDa YFP-TTN5 band, we observed three weak bands ranging between 26 to 35 kDa (Supplementary Figure S7C). We cannot explain the presence of these small protein bands. They might correspond to free YFP, to proteolytic products or potentially to proteins produced from aberrant transcripts with perhaps alternative translation start or stop sites. On the other side, a triple hemagglutinin-tagged HA3-TTN5 driven by the 35S promoter did complement the embryo-lethal phenotype of ttn5-1 (Supplementary Figure S7D, E). α-HA Western blot control performed with plant material from HA3-TTN5 seedlings showed a single band at the correct size, but no band that was 13 to 18 kDa smaller (Supplementary Figure S7D). (...) We did not observe any staining in nuclei or ER when performing HA3-TTN5 immunostaining (Figure 3P; Figure 4A, B), as was the case for fluorescence signals in YFP-TTN5-expressing cells. Presumably, this can indicate that either the nuclear and ER signals seen with YFP-TTN5 correspond to the smaller proteins detected, as described above, or that immunostaining was not suited to detect them. Hence, we focused interpretation on patterns of localization overlapping between the fluorescence staining with YFP-labeled TTN5 and with HA3-TTN5 immunostaining, such as the particular signal patterns in the specific punctate membrane structures."

      *And we discuss in the Discussion section (starting Line 552): *

      „We based the TTN5 localization data on tagging approaches with two different detection methods to enhance reliability of specific protein detection. Even though YFP-TTN5 did not complement the embryo-lethality of a ttn5 loss of function mutant, we made several observations that suggest YFP-TTN5 signals to be meaningful at various membrane sites. We do not know why YFP-TTN5 does not complement. There could be differences in TTN5 levels and interactions in some cell types, which were hindering specifically YFP-TTN5 but not HA3-TTN5. (...) Though constitutively driven, the YFP-TTN5 expression may be delayed or insufficient at the early embryonic stages resulting in the lack of embryo-lethal complementation. On the other hand, the very fast nucleotide exchange activity may be hindered by the presence of a large YFP-tag in comparison with the small HA3-tag which is able to rescue the embryo-lethality. The lack of complementation represents a challenge for the localization of small GTPases with rapid nucleotide exchange in plants. Despite of these limitations, we made relevant observations in our data that made us believe that YFP signals in YFP-TTN5-expressing cells at membrane sites can be meaningful."

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      There is some inconsistency within the N.benthamiana images. For example, compare Figure 4C of YFP-TTN5T30N to Figure 4O of YFP-TTN5T30N. Figure 4O is presented as being significant because wortmannin-induced swollen ARA7 compartments are labelled by YFP-TTN5T30N. However, structures very similar to these can already been seen in Figure 4C, which is apparently an unrelated experiment. This, to my mind, is likely a result of the very different expression levels between different cells that can be produced by transient expression in N.benthamiana.

      __Our response: __

      Former Figure 4 is now Figure 5. As detailed in our response to comment 2 of reviewer 1:

      The reviewer certainly refers to fluorescence images from N. benthamiana leaf epidermal cells where different circularly shaped structures are visible. In these respective structures, the fluorescent circles are depleted from fluorescence in the center, e.g. in Figure 5C, YFP- fluorescent signals in TTN5T30N transformed leaf discs. We suspect that these structures can be of vacuolar origin as described for similar fluorescent rings in Tichá et al., 2020 for ANNI-GFP (reference in manuscript). The reviewer certainly does not refer to swollen MVBs that are seen following wortmannin treatment, as in Figure 5N-P, which look similar in their shape but are larger in size. Please note that we always included the control conditions, namely the images recorded before the wortmannin treatment, so that we were able to investigate the changes induced by wortmannin. Hence, we can clearly say that the structures with depleted fluorescence in the center as in Figure 5C are not wortmannin-induced swollen MVBs.To make these points clear to the reader, we added an explanation into the text (Line 385-388):

      „We also observed YFP fluorescence signals in the form of circularly shaped ring structures with a fluorescence-depleted center. These structures can be of vacuolar origin as described for similar fluorescent rings in Tichá et al. (2020) for ANNI-GFP."

      **Referees cross-commenting**

      It sems that all of the reviewers have converged on the conclusion that the in planta characterisation of TTN5 is insufficient to be of substantial interest to the field, highlighting the fact that major improvements are required to strengthen this part of the manuscript and increase its relevance.

      __Reviewer #2 (Significance (Required)): __

      General assessment: the strengths of this work are in its in vitro characterisation of TITAN5, however, the in planta characterisation lacks depth.

      Significance: the in vitro characterisation of TITAN5 is commendable as such work is lacking for plant GTPases. However, the significance of the work would be boosted substantially by better in planta characterisation, which is where most the most broad interest will lie.

      My expertise: my expertise is in in planta characterisation of small GTPases and their interactors.

      __Our response: __

      We thank the reviewer for the kind evaluation of our manuscript. We are confident that the changes in the text and NEW Figures and NEW Supplementary Figures will be convincing to consider our work.

      __Reviewer #3 (Evidence, reproducibility and clarity (Required)): __

      Summary: Cellular traffic is an important and well-studied biological process in animal and plant systems. While components involved in transport are known the mechanism by which these components control activity or destination remains to be studied. A critical step in regulating traffic is proper budding and tethering of vesicles. A critical component in determining this step is a family proteins with GTPase activity, which act as switches facilitating vesicle interaction between proteins, or cytoskeleton. The current manuscript by Mohr and colleagues have characterized a small GTPase TITAN5 (TTN5) and identified two residues Gln70 and Thr30 in the protein which they propose to have functional roles. The authors catalogue the localization, GTP hydrolytic activity, and discuss putative functions of TTN5 and the mutants.

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      The core of the manuscript, which is descriptive characterization of TTN5, lies in reliably demonstrating putative roles. While the GTP hydrolysis rates are well-quantified (though the claims need to be toned down), the microscopy data especially the association of TTN5 with different endomembrane compartments is not convincing due to the quality (low resolution) of the figures submitted. The manuscript text is difficult to navigate due to repetition and inconsistency in the order that the mutants are referred. I am requesting additional experiments which should be feasible considering the authors have all the materials required to perform the experiments and obtain high-quality images which support their claims.

      In general the figure quality needs to be improved for all microscopy images. I would suggest that the authors highlight 1-2 individual cells to make their point and use the current images as supplementary to establish a broader spread. __Our response: __

      *We have worked substantially on the text and figures to make the content well comprehensive. The mutants are referred to in a consistent manner in the text and figures. We have addressed requested experiments. *

      As we pointed out in the cover letter and our responses to reviewers 1 and 2, we will upload all raw image data to BioImage Archive upon acceptance of the manuscript so that they can be re-examined without any reduction of resolution. Furthermore, we have conducted new experiments on immunolocalization of HA3-TTN5 (NEW Figure 3P, NEW Figure 4A, B). The text has been improved in several places (see highlighted changes in the manuscript and as detailed in the responses to reviewer 1. We think, this addresses well the reviewers' concerns.

      Fig. S1 lacks clarity. __Our response: __

      Supplementary Figure S1 shows TTN5 gene expression in different organs and growing stages as revealed by transcriptomic data, made available through the AtGenExpress eFB tool of the Bio-Analytic Resource for Plant Biology (BAR). The figure visualizes that TTN5 is ubiquitously expressed in different plant organs and tissues, e.g. the epidermis layers that we investigated here, and throughout development including embryo development. In accordance with the embryo-lethal phenotype, this highlights well that TTN5* is needed throughout for plant growth and it emphasizes that our investigation of TTN5 localization in epidermis cells is valid. *

      We have added a better description to the figure legend. We now also mention the respective publications from which the transcriptome data-sets are derived. The modified figure legend is:

      "Supplementary Figure S1. Visualization of TTN5 gene expression levels during plant development based on transcriptome data. Expression levels in (A), different types of aerial organs at different developmental stages; from left to right and bottom to top are represented different seed and plant growth stages, flower development stages, different leaves, vegetative to inflorescence shoot apex, embryo and silique development stages; (B), seedling root tissues based on single cell analysis represented in form of a uniform manifold approximation and projection plot; (C), successive stages of embryo development. As shown in (A) to (C), TTN5 is ubiquitously expressed in these different plant organs and tissues. In particular, it should be noted that TTN5 transcripts were detectable in the epidermis cell layer of roots that we used for localization of tagged TTN5 protein in this study. In accordance with the embryo-lethal phenotype, the ubiquitous expression of TTN5 highlights its importance for plant growth. Original data were derived from (Nakabayashi et al. 2005, Schmid et al. 2005) (A); (Ryu et al. 2019) (B); (Waese et al. 2017) (C). Gene expression levels are indicated by local maximum color code, ranging from the minimum (no expression) in yellow to the maximum (highest expression) in red."

      For the supplementary videos, it is difficult to determine if punctate structures are moving or is it cytoplasmic streaming? Could this be done with a co-localized marker? Considering that such markers have been used later in Fig. 4? __Our response: __

      We had detected movement of YFP fluorescent structures in all analyzed YFP-TTN5 plant parts except the root tip. Movement of fluorescence signals in YFP-TTN5T30N seedlings was slowed in hypocotyl epidermis cells. To answer the reviewer comment, we added three NEW supplemental videos (NEW Supplementary Video Material S1M-O) generated with all the three YFP-TTN5 constructs imaged over time in N. benthamiana leaf epidermal cells upon colocalization with the cis-Golgi marker GmMan1-mCherry as requested by the reviewer. In these NEW videos, some of *the YFP fluorescent spots seem to move together with the Golgi stacks. GmMan1 is described with a stop-and-go directed movement mediated by the actino-myosin system (Nebenführ 1999) and similarly it might be the case for YFP-TTN5 signals based on the colocalization. *

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      It would be good if the speed of movement is quantified, if the authors want to retain the current claims in results and the discussion. __Our response: __

      *We describe a difference in the movement of YFP fluorescent signal for the YFP-TTN5T30N variant in the hypocotyl compared to YFP-TTN5 and YFP-TTN5Q70L. In hypocotyl cells, we could observe a slowed down or arrested movement specifically of YFP-TTN5T30N fluorescent structures, and we describe this in the Results section (Line 278-291). *

      "Interestingly, the mobility of these punctate structures differed within the cells when the mutant YFP-TTN5T30N was observed in hypocotyl epidermis cells, but not in the leaf epidermis cells (Supplementary Video Material S1E, compare with S1B) nor was it the case for the YFP-TTN5Q70L mutant (Supplementary Video Material S1F, compare with S1E)."

      *The slowed movement in the YFP-TTN5T30N mutant is well visible even without quantification. We checked that the manuscript text does not contain overstatements in this regard. *

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      Fig.2 I am not sure what the unit / scale is in Fig. 2D/E if each parameter (Kon, Koff, and Kd) are individually plotted? Could the authors please clarify/simplify this panel?

      __Our response: __

      We presented kinetics for nucleotide association (kon) and dissociation (koff) and the dissociation constant (Kd) in a bar diagram for each nucleotide, mdGDP (Figure 2D) and mGppNHp (Figure 2E). We modified and relabeled the bar diagram representation. It should be now very clear which are the parameters and units. Please see also the other modified figures (NEW modified Figure 2A-H). We also modified the legend of Figure 2D and E:

      "(D-E), Kinetics of association and dissociation of fluorescent nucleotides mdGDP (D) or mGppNHp (E) with TTN5 proteins (WT, TTN5T30N, TTN5Q70L) are illustrated as bar charts. The association of mdGDP (0.1 µM) or mGppNHp (0.1 µM) with increasing concentration of TTN5WT, TTN5T30N and TTN5Q70L was measured using a stopped-flow device (see A, B; data see Supplementary Figure S3A-F, S4A-E). Association rate constants (kon in µM-1s-1) were determined from the plot of increasing observed rate constants (kobs in s-1) against the corresponding concentrations of the TTN5 proteins. Intrinsic dissociation rates (koff in s-1) were determined by rapidly mixing 0.1 µM mdGDP-bound or mGppNHp-bound TTN5 proteins with the excess amount of unlabeled GDP (see A, C, data see Supplementary Figure S3G-I, S4F-H). The nucleotide affinity (dissociation constant or Kd in µM) of the corresponding TTN5 proteins was calculated by dividing koff by kon. When mixing mGppNHp with nucleotide-free TTN5T30N, no binding was observed (n.b.o.) under these experimental conditions."

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      Are panels D and E representing values for mdGDP and GppNHP? This is not very clear from the figure legend.

      __Our response: __

      Yes, Figure 2D and E represent the kon, koff and Kd values for mdGDP (Figure 2D) and mGppNHP (Figure 2E). As detailed in our previous response to comment 2a, we modified figure and figure legend to make the representation more clear.

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      Fig. 3 Same comments as in para above - improve resolution fo images, concentrate on a few selected cells, if required use an inset figure to zoom-in to specific compartments. Our response:

      As detailed in our responses to reviewers 1 and 2, we will upload all original image data to BioImage Archive upon acceptance of the manuscript, so that a detailed investigation of all our images is possible without any reduction of resolution.

      Please provide the non-fluorescent channel images to understand cell topography __Our response: __

      *We presented our microscopic images with the respective fluorescent channel and for colocalization with an additional merge. We did not present brightfield images as the cell topography was already well visible by fluorescent signal close to the PM. Therefore, brightfield images would not provide any benefit. Since we will upload all original data to BioImage Archive for a detailed investigation of all our images, the data can be obtained if needed. *

      Is the nuclear localization seen in transient expression (panel L-N) an artefact? If so, this needs to be mentioned in the text. Our response:

      As explained in our responses to reviewers 1 and 2, fluorescence signals were detected within the nuclei of root cells of YFP-TTN5 plants, while immunostaining signals of HA3-TTN5 were not detected in the nucleus.

      In an α-GFP Western blot using YFP-TTN5 Arabidopsis seedlings, we detected besides the expected and strong 48 kDa YFP-TTN5 band, three additional weak bands ranging between 26 to 35 kDa (NEW Supplementary Figure S7C). We cannot explain the presence of these small protein bands. They might correspond to free YFP, to proteolytic products or potentially to proteins expressed from aberrant transcripts. α-HA Western blot controls performed with plant material from HA3-TTN5 seedlings showed a single band at the correct size (Supplementary Figure S7D). We must therefore be cautious about nuclear TTN5 localization and we rephrased the text carefully (starting Line 300):

      „We also found multiple YFP bands in α-GFP Western blot analysis using YFP-TTN5 Arabidopsis seedlings. Besides the expected and strong 48 kDa YFP-TTN5 band, we observed three weak bands ranging between 26 to 35 kDa (Supplementary Figure S7C). We cannot explain the presence of these small protein bands. They might correspond to free YFP, to proteolytic products or potentially to proteins produced from aberrant transcripts with perhaps alternative translation start or stop sites. On the other side, a triple hemagglutinin-tagged HA3-TTN5 driven by the 35S promoter did complement the embryo-lethal phenotype of ttn5-1 (Supplementary Figure S7D, E). α-HA Western blot control performed with plant material from HA3-TTN5 seedlings showed a single band at the correct size, but no band that was 13 to 18 kDa smaller (Supplementary Figure S7D). (...) We did not observe any staining in nuclei or ER when performing HA3-TTN5 immunostaining (Figure 3P; Figure 4A, B), as was the case for fluorescence signals in YFP-TTN5-expressing cells. Presumably, this can indicate that either the nuclear and ER signals seen with YFP-TTN5 correspond to the smaller proteins detected, as described above, or that immunostaining was not suited to detect them. Hence, we focused interpretation on patterns of localization overlapping between the fluorescence staining with YFP-labeled TTN5 and with HA3-TTN5 immunostaining, such as the particular signal patterns in the specific punctate membrane structures."

      Fig. 4 - In addition to the points made for Fig. 3 The authors should consider reducing gain/exposure to improve image clarity. Especially for the punctate structures, which are difficult to observe in TTN5, likely because of the cytoplasmic localization as well.

      __Our response: __

      Thank you for this comment. We record image z-stacks and represent in single z-planes. Reducing the gain to decrease the cytoplasmic signal does not increase the clarity of the punctate structures as the signal strength will become weak.. As mentioned above, we will upload all original image data to BioImage Archive for a detailed investigation of all our images without any reduction of resolution.

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      Reducing Agrobacterial load could be considered. OD of 0.4 is a bit much, 0.1 or even 0.05 could be tried. If available try expression in N. tabaccum, which is more amenable to microscopy. However, this is OPTIONAL, benthamiana should suffice. __Our response: __

      Thank you for the suggestion. We are routinely using N. benthamiana leaf infiltration. When setting up this method at first, we did not observe different localization results by using different ODs of bacterial cultures. Hence, an OD600 of 0.4 is routinely used in our institute. This value is comparable with the literature although some literature reports even higher OD values for infiltration (Norkunas et al., 2018; Drapal et al., 2021; Zhang et al., 2020, Davis et al., 2020; Stephenson et al., 2018).

      A standard norm now is to establish the level of colocalization is by quantifying a pearson's or Mander's correlation. Which I believe has been done in the text, I didn't find a plot representing the same? Could the data (which the authors already have) be plotted alongwith "n" as a table or graph? __Our response: __

      *Please check our response to reviewer 1, comment 4. *

      We like to insist that we performed colocalization very carefully and quantified the data in three different manners. We like to state that there is no general standardized procedure that best suits the idea of a colocalization pattern. Results of colocalization are represented in stem diagrams and table format, including statistical analysis. Colocalization was carried out with the ImageJ plugin JACoP for Pearson's and Overlap coefficients and based on the centroid method. The plotted Pearson's and Overlap coefficients are presented in bar diagrams in Supplementary Figure S8A and C, including statistics. The obtained values by the centroid method are represented in table format in Supplementary Figure S8B and D, which *can be considered a standard method (see Ivanov et al., 2014). *

      Colocalization of two different fluorescence signals was performed for the two channels in a specific chosen region of interest (indicating in % the overlapping signal versus the sum of signal for each channel). The differences between the YFP/mRFP and mRFP/YFP ratios indicate that a higher percentage of ARA7-RFP signal is colocalizing with YFP-TTN5Q70L signal than with the TTN5WT or the TTN5T30N mutant form signals, while the YFP signals have a similar overlap with ARA7-positive structures. This is not a contradiction. Presumably this answers well the questions on colocalization.

      Please note that upon acceptance for publication, we will upload all original colocalization data to BioImage Archive. Hence, the high-quality data can be reanalyzed by readers.

      The cartoons for the action of chemicals are useful, but need a bit more clarity. Our response:

      The schematic explanations of pharmacological treatments and expected outcomes are useful to readers. For a better understanding, we added additional explaining sentences to the figure legends (Figure 5E, M; Figure 6A). We also modified Figure 6A and the corresponding legend.

      "(E), Schematic representation of GmMan1 localization at the ER upon brefeldin A (BFA) treatment. BFA blocks ARF-GEF proteins which leads to a loss of Golgi cis-cisternae and the formation of BFA-induced compartments due to an accumulation of Golgi stacks up to a redistribution of the Golgi to the ER by fusion of the Golgi with the ER (Renna and Brandizzi 2020)."

      "(M), Schematic representation of ARA7 localization in swollen MVBs upon wortmannin treatment. Wortmannin inhibits phosphatidylinositol-3-kinase (PI3K) function leading to the fusion of TGN/EE to swollen MVBs (Renna and Brandizzi 2020)."

      "(A), Schematic representation of progressive stages of FM4-64 localization and internalization in a cell. FM4-64 is a lipophilic substance. After infiltration, it first localizes in the plasma membrane, at later stages it localizes to intracellular vesicles and membrane compartments. This localization pattern reflects the endocytosis process (Bolte et al. 2004)."

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      Fig. 5 does the Q70L mutant show reduced endocytosis ?

      __Our response: __

      We have not investigated this question. As detailed in our response to reviewer 1, *we like to emphasize that we agree fully that functional evidences are interesting to assign role for TTN5 in trafficking steps. A phenotype associated with TTN5T30N and TTN5Q70L would be clearly meaningful. *

      Concerning the aspect of colocalization of the mutants with the markers we show in Figure 5C, D and G, H that YFP-TTN5T30N- and YFP-TTN5Q70L-related signals colocalize with the Golgi marker GmMan1-mCherry. Figure 5K, L and O, P show that YFP-TTN5T30N and YFP-TTN5Q70L-related signals can colocalize with the MVB marker, and this may affect relevant vesicle trafficking processes and plasma membrane protein regulation involved in root cell elongation.

      *At present, we have not yet investigated perturbed cargo trafficking. These aspects are certainly interesting but require extensive work and testing of appropriate physiological conditions and appropriate cargo targets. We discuss future perspectives in the Discussion. We agree that such functional information is of great importance, but needs to be clarified in future studies. *

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      The main text needs to be organized in a way that a reader can separate what is the hypothesis/assumption from actual results and conclusions (see lines #143-149).

      Our response:

      *Thank you for this comment. We reformulated text throughout the manuscript. *

      The text is repeated in multiple places, while I understand that this is not plagiarism, the repetitiveness makes it difficult to read and understand the text. I highlight a couple of examples here, but please check the whole text thoroughly and edit/delete as necessary. a. Lines #124-125 with Lines #149-151 Lines #140-143

      __Our response: __

      *We checked the text and removed unnecessary repetitions. *

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      • Could the authors elaborate on whether there are plan homologs of TTN5? Also, have other ARF/ARLs been compared to TTN5 beyond HsARF1? *

      Our response:

      Phylogenetic trees of the ARF family in Arabidopsis in comparison to human ARF family were already published by Vernoud et al. (2003). In this phylogenetic tree ARF, ARL and SAR proteins of Arabidopsis are compared with the members in humans and S. cervisiae. It is difficult to deduce whether the proteins are homologs or orthologs. In this setting, an ortholog of TTN5 may be HsARL2 followed by HsARL3. In Figure 1A we represented some human GTPases as closely related in sequence to TTN5, these are HsARL2, HsARF1 and AtARF1 since they are the best studied ARF GTPases. HRAS is a well-known member of the RAS superfamily which we used for kinetic comparison in Figure 2. We additionally compared published kinetics of RAC1, HsARF3, *CDC42, RHOA, ARF6, RAD, GEM, and RAS GTPases. *

      • *

      On a related note, a major problem I have with these kinetic values is the assumption of significance or not. For eg. Line#180 the values represent and 2 and 6-fold increase, if these numbers do not matter can a significance threshold be applied so as to understand how much fold-change is appreciable?

      Our response:

      The kinetics of TTN5 and its two mutant variants can be compared with those of other studied GTPases. To provide a basis for the statements about differences in GTPase activities, we modified the text and added respective references in the text for comparisons of fold changes.

      The new text is now as follows Line 175-231):

      „ We next measured the dissociation (koff) of mdGDP and mGppNHp from the TTN5 proteins in the presence of excess amounts of GDP and GppNHp, respectively (Figure 2C) and found interesting differences (Figure 2D, E; Supplementary Figures S3G-I, S4F-H). First, TTN5WT showed a koff value (0.012 s-1 for mGDP) (Figure 2D; Supplementary Figure S3G), which was 100-fold faster than those obtained for classical small GTPases, including RAC1 (Haeusler et al. 2006)and HRAS (Gremer et al. 2011), but very similar to the koff value of HsARF3 (Fasano et al. 2022). Second, the koffvalues for mGDP and mGppNHp, respectively, were in a similar range between TTN5WT (0.012 s-1 mGDP and 0.001 s-1mGppNHp) and TTN5Q70L (0.025 s-1 mGDP and 0.006 s-1 mGppNHp), respectively, but the koff values differed 10-fold between the two nucleotides mGDP and mGppNHp in TTN5WT (koff = 0.012 s-1 versus koff = 0.001 s-1; Figure 2D, E; Supplementary Figure S3G, I, S4F, H). Thus, mGDP dissociated from proteins 10-fold faster than mGppNHp. Third, the mGDP dissociation from TTN5T30N (koff = 0.149 s-1) was 12.5-fold faster than that of TTN5WT and 37-fold faster than the mGppNHp dissociation of TTN5T30N (koff = 0.004 s-1) (Figure 2D, E; Supplementary Figure S3H, S4G). Mutants of CDC42, RAC1, RHOA, ARF6, RAD, GEM and RAS GTPases, equivalent to TTN5T30N, display decreased nucleotide binding affinity and therefore tend to remain in a nucleotide-free state in a complex with their cognate GEFs (Erickson et al. 1997, Ghosh et al. 1999, Radhakrishna et al. 1999, Jung and Rösner 2002, Kuemmerle and Zhou 2002, Wittmann et al. 2003, Nassar et al. 2010, Huang et al. 2013, Chang and Colecraft 2015, Fisher et al. 2020, Shirazi et al. 2020). Since TTN5T30N exhibits fast guanine nucleotide dissociation, these results suggest that TTN5T30N may also act in either a dominant-negative or fast-cycling manner as reported for other GTPase mutants (Fiegen et al. 2004, Wang et al. 2005, Fidyk et al. 2006, Klein et al. 2006, Soh and Low 2008, Sugawara et al. 2019, Aspenström 2020).

      The dissociation constant (Kd) is calculated from the ratio koff/kon, which inversely indicates the affinity of the interaction between proteins and nucleotides (the higher Kd, the lower affinity). Interestingly, TTN5WT binds mGppNHp (Kd = 0.029 µM) 10-fold tighter than mGDP (Kd = 0.267 µM), a difference, which was not observed for TTN5Q70L (Kd for mGppNHp = 0.026 µM, Kd for mGDP = 0.061 µM) (Figure 2D, E). The lower affinity of TTN5WT for mdGDP compared to mGppNHp brings us one step closer to the hypothesis that classifies TTN5 as a non-classical GTPase with a tendency to accumulate in the active (GTP-bound) state (Jaiswal et al. 2013). The Kd value for the mGDP interaction with TTN5T30N was 11.5-fold higher (3.091 µM) than for TTN5WT, suggesting that this mutant exhibited faster nucleotide exchange and lower affinity for nucleotides than TTN5WT. Similar as other GTPases with a T30N exchange, TTN5T30Nmay behave in a dominant-negative manner in signal transduction (Vanoni et al. 1999).

      To get hints on the functionalities of TTN5 during the complete GTPase cycle, it was crucial to determine its ability to hydrolyze GTP. Accordingly, the catalytic rate of the intrinsic GTP hydrolysis reaction, defined as kcat, was determined by incubating 100 µM GTP-bound TTN5 proteins at 25{degree sign}C and analyzing the samples at various time points using a reversed-phase HPLC column (Figure 2F; Supplementary Figure S5). The determined kcat values were quite remarkable in two respects (Figure 2G). First, all three TTN5 proteins, TTN5WT, TTN5T30N and TTN5Q70L, showed quite similar kcatvalues (0.0015 s-1, 0.0012 s-1, 0.0007 s-1; Figure 2G; Supplementary Figure S5). The GTP hydrolysis activity of TTN5Q70L was quite high (0.0007 s-1). This was unexpected because, as with most other GTPases, the glutamine mutations at the corresponding position drastic impair hydrolysis, resulting in a constitutively active GTPase in cells (Hodge et al. 2020, Matsumoto et al. 2021). Second, the kcat value of TTN5WT (0.0015 s-1) although quite low as compared to other GTPases (Jian et al. 2012, Esposito et al. 2019), was 8-fold lower than the determined koff value for mGDP dissociation (0.012 s-1) (Figure 2E). This means that a fast intrinsic GDP/GTP exchange versus a slow GTP hydrolysis can have drastic effects on TTN5 activity in resting cells, since TTN5 can accumulate in its GTP-bound form, unlike the classical GTPase (Jaiswal et al. 2013). To investigate this scenario, we pulled down GST-TTN5 protein from bacterial lysates in the presence of an excess amount of GppNHp in the buffer using glutathione beads and measured the nucleotide-bound form of GST-TTN5 using HPLC. As shown in Figure 2H, isolated GST-TTN5 increasingly bonds GppNHp, indicating that the bound nucleotide is rapidly exchanged for free nucleotide (in this case GppNHp). This is not the case for classical GTPases, which remain in their inactive GDP-bound forms under the same experimental conditions (Walsh et al. 2019, Hodge et al. 2020)."

      Another issue with the kinetic measurements is the significance levels. Line #198-201. The three proteins are claimed to have similar values and in the nnext line, the Q70L mutant is claimed to be high.

      Our response:

      Please see our response and changes in the text according in our response to the previous comment 9. We have provided extra explanations and references to clarify why the kinetic behavior of TTN5 is unusual in several respects (Line 215-220).

      „First, all three TTN5 proteins, TTN5WT, TTN5T30N and TTN5Q70L, showed quite similar kcat values (0.0015 s-1, 0.0012 s-1, 0.0007 s-1; Figure 2G; Supplementary Figure S5). The GTP hydrolysis activity of TTN5Q70L was quite high (0.0007 s-1). This was unexpected because, as with most other GTPases, the glutamine mutations at the corresponding position drastic impair hydrolysis, resulting in a constitutively active GTPase in cells (Hodge et al. 2020, Matsumoto et al. 2021)."

      Provide data for conclusion in line#214-215

      Our response:

      We agree that a reference should be added after this sentence to make this sentence clearer (Line 228-231).

      "As shown in Figure 2H, isolated GST-TTN5 increasingly bonds GppNHp, indicating that the bound nucleotide is rapidly exchanged for free nucleotide (in this case GppNHp). This is not the case for classical GTPases, which remain in their inactive GDP-bound forms under the same experimental conditions (Walsh et al. 2019, Hodge et al. 2020)."

      • *

      How were the mutants studied here identified? random mutation or was it directed based on qualified assumptions?

      __Our response: __

      We used the T30N and the Q70L point mutations as such types of mutants had been reported to confer specific phenotypes in these well-conserved amino acid positions in multiple other small GTPases (Erickson et al. 1997, Ghosh et al. 1999, Radhakrishna et al. 1999, Jung and Rösner 2002, Kuemmerle and Zhou 2002, Wittmann et al. 2003, Nassar et al. 2010, Huang et al. 2013, Chang and Colecraft 2015, Fisher et al. 2020, Shirazi et al. 2020). In particular, these positions affect the interaction between small GTPases and their respective guanine nucleotide exchange factor (GEF; T30N) or on GTP hydrolysis (Q70L). We introduced the mutants and described their potential effect on the GTPase cycle in the introduction and cited exemplary literature. Please see also our response to comment 6 and the proposed text changes (Line 142-151).

      Could more simplification be provided for deifitinition of Kon/Koff values. And can these values be compared between mutants directly?

      __Our response: __

      *We introduce kon and koff in the modified Figure 2D, E, and they are described in the figure legends. Moreover, we present the data for calculations in Supplementary Figures S3, 4, where again we define the values in the respective figure legends. *

      • *

      Data provided are not convincing to claim that both the mutant forms have lower association with the Golgi.

      __Our response: __

      *Our conclusion is that both YFP-TTN5 and YFP-TTN5Q70L fluorescence signals tend to colocalize more with the Golgi-marker signals compared to YFP-TTN5T30N signals as deduced from the centroid-based colocalization method (Line 404-405). *

      "Hence, the GTPase-active TTN5 forms are likely more present at cis-Golgi stacks compared to TTN5T30N."

      The Pearson coefficients of all three YFP-TTN5 constructs were nearly identical, but we could identify differences in overlapping centers between the YFP and mCherry channel. 48 % of the GmMan1-mCherry fluorescent cis-Golgi stacks were overlapping with signal of YFP-TTN5Q70L, while for YFP-TTN5T30N an overlap of only 31 % was detected. This means that less cis*-Golgi stacks colocalized with signals in the YFP-TTN5T30N mutant than in YFP-TTN5Q70L, which is the statement in our manuscript. *

      • *

      IN general the Authors should strongly consider the claims made in the manuscript. For eg. "This study lays the foundation for studying the functional relationships of this small GTPase" (line 125) is unqualified as this is true for every protein ever studied and published. Considering that TTN was not isolated/identified in this study for the first time this claim doesn't stand.

      __Our response: __

      *We reformulated the sentence (Line 123-124). *

      "This study paves the way towards future investigation of the cellular and physiological contexts in which this small GTPase is functional."

      • *

      Line #185 - "characterestics of a dominant-negative...." What is this based on? From the text it is not clear what are the paremeters. Considering that no complementation phenotypes have been presented, this is a far-fetched claim Our response:

      Small GTPases in general are a well studied protein family and the here used mutations T30N and Q70L are conserved amino acids and commonly used for the characterization of the Ras superfamily members. We added explaining sentences with references to the text. The characteristics referred to in the above paragraph is based on the kinetic study.

      We modified the text as follows (Line 186-197 ):

      „Third, the mGDP dissociation from TTN5T30N (koff = 0.149 s-1) was 12.5-fold faster than that of TTN5WT and 37-fold faster than the mGppNHp dissociation of TTN5T30N (koff = 0.004 s-1) (Figure 2D, E; Supplementary Figure S3H, S4G). Mutants of CDC42, RAC1, RHOA, ARF6, RAD, GEM and RAS GTPases, equivalent to TTN5T30N, display decreased nucleotide binding affinity and therefore tend to remain in a nucleotide-free state in a complex with their cognate GEFs (Erickson et al. 1997, Ghosh et al. 1999, Radhakrishna et al. 1999, Jung and Rösner 2002, Kuemmerle and Zhou 2002, Wittmann et al. 2003, Nassar et al. 2010, Huang et al. 2013, Chang and Colecraft 2015, Fisher et al. 2020, Shirazi et al. 2020). Since TTN5T30N exhibits fast guanine nucleotide dissociation, these results suggest that TTN5T30N may also act in either a dominant-negative or fast-cycling manner as reported for other GTPase mutants (Fiegen et al. 2004, Wang et al. 2005, Fidyk et al. 2006, Klein et al. 2006, Soh and Low 2008, Sugawara et al. 2019, Aspenström 2020)."

      The claims in Line #224-227 are exaggerated. Please tone down or delete __Our response: __

      *We rephrased the sentence (Line 240-243). *

      "Therefore, we propose that TTN5 exhibits the typical functions of a small GTPase based on in vitro biochemical activity studies, including guanine nucleotide association and dissociation, but emphasizes its divergence among the ARF GTPases by its kinetics."

      Line#488-489 - This conclusion is not really supported. At best Authors can claim that TTN5 is associated with trafficking components, but the functional relevance of this association is not determined. Our response:

      *We toned down our statement (Line 604-608). *

      „The colocalization of FM4-64-labeled endocytosed vesicles with fluorescence in YFP-TTN5-expressing cells may indicate that TTN5 is involved in endocytosis and the possible degradation pathway into the vacuole. Our data on colocalization with the different markers support the hypothesis that TTN5 may have functions in vesicle trafficking."

      __Minor comments: __

      Line #95 - " This rolein vesicle....." - please clarify which role? Our response:

      We rephrased the sentence (Line 96-99).

      „These roles of ARF1 and SAR1 in COPI and II vesicle formation within the endomembrane system are well conserved in eukaryotes which raises the question of whether other plant ARF members are also involved in functioning of the endomembrane system."

      Line #168 - "we did not observed" please change to "not able to measure/quantify" __Our response: __

      *We changed the text accordingly (Line 169-171). *

      „A remarkable observation was that we were not able to monitor the kinetics of mGppNHp association with TTN5T30N but observed its dissociation (koff = 0.026 s-1; Figure 2E)."

      Line#179 - ARF# is human for Arabidopsis?

      Our response:

      *The study of Fasano et al., 2022 is based on human ARF3 and we added the information to the text (Line 180-181) *

      "(...) very similar to the koff value of HsARF3 (Fasano et al. 2022)."

      • *

      Line #181 - compared to what is the 10-fold difference?

      __Our response: __

      The 10-fold difference is between the nucleotides mGDP and mGppNHp, for both TTN5WT and TTN5Q70L. We added the information on specific nucleotides to this sentence for a better understanding (Line 181-185).

      „Second, the koff values for mGDP and mGppNHp, respectively, were in a similar range between TTN5WT (0.012 s-1mGDP and 0.001 s-1 mGppNHp) and TTN5Q70L (0.025 s-1 mGDP and 0.006 s-1 mGppNHp), respectively, but the koffvalues differed 10-fold between the two nucleotides mGDP and mGppNHp in TTN5WT (koff = 0.012 s-1 versus koff = 0.001 s-1; Figure 2D, E; Supplementary Figure S3G, I, S4F, H)."

      Lines #314-323 - are diffciult to understand, consider reframing. Same goes for the conclusion following these lines.

      __Our response: __

      We added an explanation to these sentences for a better understanding (Line 392-405).

      „We performed an additional object-based analysis to compare overlapping YFP fluorescence signals in YFP-TTN5-expressing leaves with GmMan1-mCherry signals (YFP/mCherry ratio) and vice versa (mCherry/YFP ratio). We detected 24 % overlapping YFP- fluorescence signals for TTN5 with Golgi stacks, while in YFP-TTN5T30N and YFP-TTN5Q70L-expressing leaves, signals only shared 16 and 15 % overlap with GmMan1-mCherry-positive Golgi stacks (Supplementary Figure S8B). Some YFP-signals did not colocalize with the GmMan1 marker. This effect appeared more prominent in leaves expressing YFP-TTN5T30N and less for YFP-TTN5Q70L, compared to YFP-TTN5 (Figure 5B-D). Indeed, we identified 48 % GmMan1-mCherry signal overlapping with YFP-positive structures in YFP-TTN5Q70L leaves, whereas 43 and only 31 % were present with YFP fluorescence signals in YFP-TTN5 and YFP-TTN5T30N-expressing leaves, respectively (Supplementary Figure S8B), indicating a smaller amount of GmMan1-positive Golgi stacks colocalizing with YFP signals for YFP-TTN5T30N. Hence, the GTPase-active TTN5 forms are likely more present at cis-Golgi stacks compared to TTN5T30N."

      Authors might consider a longer BFA treatment (3-4h) to see more clearer ER-Golgi fusion (BFA bodies)

      __Our response: __

      We perforned addtional BFA treatments for HA3-TTN5-expressing Arabidopsis seedlings followed by whole-mount immunostaining and for YFP-TTN5-expressing Arabidopsis lines. In both experiments we could obtain the typical BFA bodies. We included the NEW data in NEW Figure 4B, C

      **Referees cross-commenting**

      I agree with both my co-reviewers that the manuscript needs substantial improvement in its cell biology based experiments and conclusions thereof. I think the concensus of all reviewers points to weakness in the in-planta experiments which needs to be addressed to understand and characterize TTN5, which is the main goal of the manuscript.

      Reviewer #3 (Significance (Required)):

      Significance: The manuscript has general significance in understanding the role of small GTPases which are understudied. Although the manuscript does not advance the field of either intracellular trafficking or organization it holds significance in attempting to characterize proteins involved, which is a prerequisite for further functional studies.

      __Our response: __

      Thank you for your detailed analysis of our manuscript and positive assessment. Our study is an advance in the plant vesicle trafficking field.

    1. reación de narra-tivas digitales

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      Lo importante es aprender a utilizar los diferentes lenguajes que permitan contar historias de ficción y no ficción significativas a través de la radio, la televisión, el podcast, el cine, la prensa, las publicaciones digitales o el performance, entre muchas otras posibilidades, con la finalidad de generar espacios de transformación ante realidades sociales poco visibles y complejas.

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      La historia de lucha en veneficio de los integrantes de su entorno o comunidad lleva a comparar con otros casos de éxito, como es el de Monseñor Leonidas Prohaño quien lucho por educar al pueblo indígena de Chimborazo en Ecuador a través de las Escuelas radiofónicas comunitarias.

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      Ser humano es hacerse humano: Esta afirmación sugiere que la humanidad no es algo dado o estático, sino un proceso dinámico. Ser humano implica un continuo de transformación y construcción de nuestra identidad. No nacemos completamente humanos; nos convertimos en humanos a lo largo de nuestras vidas.

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      Response to reviewer comments

      R: We really appreciate the reviewer positive comments and consideration, and we believe that the review process has significantly strengthened our manuscript.

      We have responded to all the reviewer comments, as follows:

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      FROM REVIEWER #1

      Major comments:

      The manuscript is mostly well written (it could use a few minor grammatical corrections), the significance of the problem is well described, and the results are clearly presented with adequate controls. The movies, provided as supplementary material, are of the highest quality and are essential additions to the stills provided in the figures. The data convincingly support the key conclusions of the manuscript.

      R: We sincerely appreciate the positive comments provided by the reviewer. In response, we have thoroughly revised the manuscript to address any grammatical issue.

      Does the MO knockdown both S and L homeologs of X. laevis? Since the level of GAPDH in Figure 1H also looks reduced in Gai2 MO lane, it should be made clear that the apparent knockdown of Gai2 was normalized to GAPDH, rather than being the results of unequal loading of the gel. Yes, I recognize that Figure 1I says normalized, but this is not stated in the results or the methods. Also, was this experiment done with X. laevis or X. tropicalis? I could imagine that if done in X. laevis, the lack of complete knockdown might be due to only one homeolog being affected.

      R: We appreciate the reviewer comment, and we described in Material and Methods section the region targeted by the morpholino, in both Xenopus species. We added the next paragraph in the Material and Methods section, see page 24, paragraph 2, lines: 4-11:

      "MO against Xenopus Gαi2 was designed by GeneTools to target the 5' UTR site of X. tropicalis (X.t) and X. laevis (X.l) transcripts (Gαi2MO: 5'-CGACACAGCCCCAGATAGTGCGT-3'). Specifically, it hybridizes with the 5' UTR of X. t Gαi2 (NM_203919), 17 nucleotides upstream of the ATG start codon. For X. l Gαi2, the morpholino hybridizes with both isoforms described in Xenbase. It specifically targets the 5' UTR of the Gαi2.L isoform (XM_018258962), located 17 nucleotides upstream of the ATG start codon, and the 5' UTR of the Gαi2.S isoform (NM_001097056), situated 275 nucleotides upstream of the ATG."

      With respect to Figure 1H and 1I, we have specified in the Fig. 1 legend that we normalized the data to GAPDH to quantifying the decrease in Gαi2 expression induced by the morpholino.

      See page 40, Figure 1H-I, Legends section. Finally, the result showed in Fig. 1A-I was done in X.t., that was now stated at the legend from the figure. We added at the Supplementary material Fig.1S, the result done in X.l. experiment.

      The knowledge of the efficacy of knockdown in each Xenopus species provided by the information requested in the previous point, would allow the reader to assess the level of knockdown in the remaining assays. To do this, the authors should tell us which assays were done in which species. I am not suggesting that each experiment needs to be done in each species, only that the information should be provided. If the MO is more effective in X. tropicalis - which assays used this species? If the knock down is partial, as shown in Figure 1H-I, which species this represents in the remaining assays would be useful knowledge.

      R: We greatly appreciate the reviewer's valuable comments and suggestions, and as a response, we have incorporated a new supplementary figure (Figure S1). This figure includes a western blot and an in situ hybridization assay illustrating the efficiency of the knockdown in Xenopus laevis. The results presented in Figure S1 demonstrate that the knockdown efficiency is similar in both Xenopus species, allowing for a comparison between Figure 1A-I (X. tropicalis) and Figure 1S (X. laevis).

      To complement this information, we have also improved the section of Material and Methods regarding the experiments in both Xenopus species (Xenopus tropicalis and Xenopus laevis). As detailed in the Materials and Methods section, we employed 20 ng of Gai2MO for Xenopus tropicalis embryos and 35 ng of Gai2MO for Xenopus laevis embryos to deplete cell migration. In both species, in vivo migration was analyzed, resulting in a substantial inhibition of cranial neural crest (NC) migration, ranging from 60% to 80%. Additionally, we conducted dispersion assays in both species. In X. laevis, in vitro migration was monitored for 10 hours, while in X. tropicalis, it was tracked for 4 hours, both yielding the same phenotype. We also studied cell morphology and microtubule dynamics in both Xenopus models. However, we used different tracer concentrations for each, with 200 pg for X. laevis and 100 pg for X. tropicalis, as specified in the Materials and Methods section. Our Rac1 and RhoA timelapse experiments were conducted in both species as well, employing pGBD-GFP and rGBD-mCherry probes, respectively, and different probe concentrations as outlined in the Materials and Methods section. These experiments revealed polarity impairment and consistent Rac1 behavior in both Xenopus species. The study of focal adhesion in vivo dynamics using the FAK-GFP tracer was carried out also in both species, resulting in the same phenotype. It is worth noting that the only experiment conducted exclusively in X. tropicalis was the focal adhesion disassembly assay with nocodazole.

      Regarding the improvements of the Materials and Method section see page 24, paragraph 1.

      We want to highlight that at the beginning of the Materials and Methods section, we incorporated a paragraph to clarify that "All experiments were conducted in both Xenopus species (X.t and X.l) using distinct concentrations of the morpholino (MO) and mRNA, as specified in each respective methodology description". This approach consistently yielded similar results. It is important to note that for the figures, we selected the most representative images.

      We have also specified in each figure legend which Xenopus species is depicted.

      Minor comments:

      While prior studies are referenced appropriately, and the text and figures are mostly clear and accurately presented, the following are a few suggestions that would help the authors improve the presentation of their data and conclusions:

      The cell biological experiments convincingly demonstrate that knockdown of Gai2 causes cells to move more slowly. It would be a nice addition to bring the explant experimental data back to the embryo by showing whether the slower moving NC cells in morphants eventually populate the BA. DO they cease to migrate or are they just slower getting to their destination? This could be done by performing snail2 ISH at a later stage (34-35?).

      R: We appreciate the reviewer's insightful point, and in response, we conducted the in situ hybridization assay at stages 32-36 to address this question. The result has been included in Figure S1F-H, revealing a delayed migration of cranial neural crest cells. Consequently, we have updated the text in the results section, page 6, paragraph 1, line 18:

      "In later developmental stages, such as stage 32, WISH revealed alterations in migration as well, albeit to a lesser extent compared to the early stages (22-23). This suggests a phenotype characterized by delayed migration (supplementary material Fig S1F-H)."

      There are places in the manuscript where the authors use the terms "silencing" or "suppression" of Gai2, when they really mean reduced translation - their system is not a genetic knockout, as clearly demonstrated in Figure 1H-I. I suggest that more accurate wording be used.

      R: We appreciate the reviewer's comment, and we agree that the Gαi2 morpholino impedes Gαi2 translation, leading to a reduction in Gαi2 protein expression. Consequently, we have revised the entire manuscript, replacing the terms "silencing" and "suppression" with "knockdown".

      In Figures 1-5 there are scale of bars on the cell images, but these are not defined in any of the figure legends.

      R: We value the reviewer's comment, and we have revised all the figure legends by including the scale information. Each image has been scaled to 10 µm with varying magnifications.

      The abstract is the weakest section of the manuscript, and would have greater impact if it were more clearly written.

      R: We appreciate the reviewer's comment on the abstract, and we have revised and edited it to enhance its quality.

      Abstract:

      "Cell migration is a complex and essential process in various biological contexts, from embryonic development to tissue repair and cancer metastasis. Central to this process are the actin and tubulin cytoskeletons, which control cell morphology, polarity, focal adhesion dynamics, and overall motility in response to diverse chemical and mechanical cues. Despite the well- established involvement of heterotrimeric G proteins in cell migration, the precise underlying mechanism remains elusive, particularly in the context of development. This study explores the involvement of Gαi2, a subunit of heterotrimeric G proteins, in cranial neural crest cell migration, a critical event in embryonic development. Our research uncovers the intricate mechanisms underlying Gαi2 influence, revealing a direct interaction with the microtubule-associated protein EB1, and through this with tubulin, suggesting a regulatory function in microtubule dynamics modulation. Here, we show that Gαi2 knockdown leads to microtubule stabilization, alterations in cell polarity and morphology with an increased Rac1-GTP concentration at the leading edge and cell-cell contacts, impaired cortical actin localization and focal adhesion disassembly. Interestingly, in Gai2 depleted cells RhoA-GTP was found to be reduced at cell-cell contacts and concentrated at the leading edge, providing evidence of Gαi2 significant role in polarity. Remarkably, treatment with nocodazole, a microtubule-depolymerizing agent, effectively reduces Rac1 activity, restoring cranial NC cell morphology, actin distribution, and overall migration. Collectively, our findings shed light on the intricate molecular mechanisms underlying cranial neural crest cell migration and highlight the pivotal role of Gαi2 in orchestrating microtubule dynamics through EB1 and EB3 interaction, modulating Rac1 activity during this crucial developmental process."

      Reviewer #1 (Significance (Required)):

      The molecular regulation of cell movement is a key feature of a number of developmental and homeostatic processes. While many of the proteins involved have been identified, how they interact to provide motility has not been elucidated in any great detail, particularly in embryo-derived cells (as opposed to cell lines). The results obtained from the presented experiments are novel, in-depth and provide a novel paradigm for how G proteins regulate microtubule dynamics which in turn regulate other components of the cytoskeleton required for cell movement. The results will be applicable to many migrating cell types, not just neural crest cells.

      Because of the application of the data to many types of cells that migrate, the audience is expected to include a broad array of developmental biologists, basic cell biologists and those interested in clinically relevant aberrant cell migrations.

      R: We really appreciate the reviewer positive comments and consideration

      FROM REVIEWER #2

      Reviewer: Major comments:

      The authors aim to address two issues in this manuscript: a) the role of Gai2 in neural crest development; and b) the mechanism of Gai2 function. While they have done a good job demonstrating a role of Gai2 in NC migration both in vivo and in vitro as well as the effects of Gai2 knockdown on cytoskeleton dynamics, protein distribution of selected polarity and focal adhesion molecules, and Rac1 activation, the link between Gai2 and the downstream effectors is largely correlative. Because of this, the model suggesting the sequential events flowing from Gai2 to microtubule to Rac1 to focal adhesion/actin should be modified to allow room for direct and indirect regulation at potentially multiple entry points.

      R: We appreciate the valuable comments provided by the reviewer. To further elucidate the mechanism underlying Gαi2 regulation of cranial neural crest cell migration, we have incorporated new data from interaction analysis conducted by PLA (proximity ligand assay). This analysis supports our proposed model, indicating Gαi2 interacts with EB proteins to form a complex with tubulin, thereby regulating microtubules dynamics and subsequently influencing Rac1 and RhoA activity, cell morphology (actin cytoskeleton) and cell-matrix adhesion, ultimately affecting migration. However, we cannot exclude that this regulation may also involve other intermediary proteins, such as GEFs, GAPs, GDIs, and others. Finally, as a result, we have revised our model and its description to provide a more detailed explanation of the potential mechanism in line with the reviewer suggestion. Specifically, we have edited the discussion/conclusion, model and the legend for Figure 6. Please refer to page 16 (paragraph 1, 2 and 3), 22 (paragraph 1), 23 (paragraph 1), 44 (Legend Fig. 6).

      __Reviewer: __Specific major comments are as the following:

      Strengths:

      -Determination of a role of Gai2 in neural crest migration is novel.

      -The effect of Gai2 knockdown on membrane protrusion morphology and microtubule stability and dynamics are demonstrated nicely.

      -Quantification of experimental perimeters has been performed throughout the manuscript in all the figures, and statistical analysis is included in the figures.

      R: We appreciate the reviewer positive comments

      Weaknesses: -The heavy focus of the study on microtubule is due to the previous publication on the function of Gai2 in regulation of microtubule during asymmetrical cell division. However, the activity of Gai2 is likely cell type-specific, as it has not been shown to control microtubule during cytokinesis in general. It is equally likely that Gai2 primarily regulates Rac1 or actin regulators to influence both microtubule and actin dynamics. The tone of the discussion should therefore be softened.

      R: We greatly appreciate and agree with the comment from the reviewer, highlighting the possibility that Gαi2 primarily regulates Rac1 or actin regulators to influence both microtubule and actin dynamics. In this regard, we have revised our manuscript to include a discussion of this point. We added the next paragraph in the Discussion/Conclusion section, page 22-23.

      "It is well established that the activity from the Rho family of small GTPases is controlling cytoskeletal organization during migration (Ridley et al., 2015). Contrariwise, it has been described in many cell types, that microtubules dynamic polymerization plays a crucial role in establishing the structural foundation for cell polarization, consequently influencing the direction of cell motility (Watanabe et al., 2005). Our results appear to align with this latter view. While it is reasonable to postulate the possibility that Gαi2 regulates Rac1 activity, subsequently influencing actin and microtubule dynamics, our findings in the context of cranial NC cells, lend support to an alternative sequence of events. Initially, Gαi2 knockdown leads to a decrease in microtubule dynamics, which in turn increase Rac-GTP towards the leading edge. This shift is accompanied by reduced levels of cortical actin and impaired focal adhesion disassembly, culminating in compromised cell migration. Notably, nocodazole, a microtubule-depolymerizing agent, not only diminishes Rac-GTP localization at the leading edge but also rescues cell morphology, restores normal cortical actin localization, and promotes focal adhesion disassembly, thereby facilitating cell migration. If Rac1 activity were indeed upstream of microtubules, it would be expected that nocodazole would not reduce Rac-GTP levels at the cell leading edge. These results suggest that the regulation of Rac1 activity may follow, rather than precede, alterations in microtubule dynamics, in the context of NC cells. Furthermore, in support of our model, our protein interaction analysis demonstrates Gαi2 interacting with microtubule components such as EB proteins and tubulin. As we already mention above, earlier studies have reported that microtubule dynamics promote Rac1 signaling at the leading edge and by releasing RhoGEFs promote RhoA signaling as well (Best et al., 1996; Garcin and Straube, 2019; Moore et al., 2013; Waterman-Storer et al., 1999). In addition, it is well-documented that RhoGEFs interact with microtubules, including bPix, a GEF for Rac1 and Cdc42, which, in turn, promotes tubulin acetylation (Kwon et al., 2020). Interestingly, in ovarian cancer cells, Gαi2 has been shown to activate Rac1 through an interaction with bPix, thereby jointly regulating migration in response to LPA (Ward et al., 2015). Taken together, these findings further support our proposed model (refer to Fig. 6)."

      The effect of rescue of NC migration with Rac1 inhibitor is marginal and the result is hard to interpret considering the inhibitor also blocks control NC migration. Either lower doses of Rac1 inhibitor can be used or the experiment can be removed from the manuscript, as Rac1 is required for membrane protrusions and the inhibitor doses can be hard to titrate.

      R: We appreciate and agree with the reviewer's comments. To address this concern and enhance clarity, we have incorporated the following paragraph into the manuscript within the Discussion section. Additionally, we have included information on the range of NSC23766 concentrations used for this analysis in the Materials and Methods section. Page 25, Explants and microdissection.

      In the results section see page 11 and 12, paragraph 2.

      "It is worth noting that we conducted Rac inhibitor NSC23766 trials at concentrations ranging from 20 nM to 50 nM for X. laevis and between 10 nM to 30 nM for X. tropicalis. In both cases, higher concentrations of the Rac inhibitor proved to be lethal (data not shown), underscoring the essential role of Rac1 in both cell migration and cell survival. Remarkably, our results show partial restoration in cranial NC cells dispersion following a 5-minute treatment with a low concentration of the Rac1 inhibitor (20 nM of NSC23766 X. laevis and 10 nM for X. tropicalis) (Fig. 3L-P, supplementary material movie S5). This suggests that these concentrations are sufficient to demonstrate that the increase in Rac1-GTP resulting from Gαi2 morpholino knockdown impairs cell migration."

      The partial rescue can be attributed to the crucial role of microtubule dynamics in cell migration, which acts upstream of Rac activity. Additionally, Rac is pivotal for the modulation of cell polarity at the leading edge of migration. It is worth emphasizing that Rac1 levels are critical for cell migration, as demonstrated by other researchers. Lower concentrations of Rac1-GTP have been shown to hinder cell migration in cells deficient in Rac1, leading to a significant reduction in wound closure and random cell migration (Steffen et al., 2013).

      "Therefore, we believe that the lower concentration of NSC23766 used in our assay was adequate to reduce the abnormal Rac1-GTP activity in the morphant NC cells. However, it is important to note that for normal NC cell, this level of reduction in Rac1-GTP activity is critical and sufficient to impair normal migration".

      See page 11 and 12, paragraph 2.

      Steffen A, Ladwein M, Dimchev GA, Hein A, Schwenkmezger L, Arens S, Ladwein KI, Margit Holleboom J, Schur F, Victor Small J, Schwarz J, Gerhard R, Faix J, Stradal TE, Brakebusch C, Rottner K. Rac function is crucial for cell migration but is not required for spreading and focal adhesion formation. J Cell Sci. 2013 Oct 15;126(Pt 20):4572-88. doi: 10.1242/jcs.118232. Epub 2013 Jul 31. PMID: 23902686; PMCID: PMC3817791.

      Since the defects seem to result partially from the inability of the NC cells to retract and move away, it may help to either include some data on Rho activation patterns in knockdown cells or simply add some discussion about the issue.

      R: We acknowledge and sincerely appreciate the reviewer's valuable comments on this pivotal aspect, which significantly enhances our capacity to elucidate the impact of Gαi2 knockdown on cell polarity. To address this crucial point, we have introduced an experiment that examines RhoA-GTP localization under Gαi2 knockdown conditions, and we have incorporated a supplementary figure S3 into our manuscript. This newly added figure clearly demonstrates that, under Gαi2 knockdown conditions, and in contrast to control cells, RhoA-GTP localization is substantially disrupted at cell-cell contacts and now detected at the leading edge of the cell, providing compelling evidence of cell polarity defects (refer to Figure S3A-C). In response to these results, we have included a description of these findings in the Results section (please see page 10) and a dedicated paragraph in the Discussion section (please see page 19, paragraph 2, last line, page 19-21).

      Results section 1 (page 10, paragraph 1 line 6-12): "To achieve this, we explored whether Gαi2 regulates the subcellular distribution of active Rac1 and RhoA in cranial NC explants under Gαi2 loss-of-function conditions, considering their pivotal roles in cranial NC migration and contact inhibition of locomotion (CIL) (Carmona-Fontaine et al., 2011; Moore et al., 2013; Leal et al., 2018). Hence, we employed mRNA encoding the small GTPase-based probe, enabling specific visualization of the GTP-bound states of these proteins."

      Results section 2 (page 10, paragraph 1 line 14-27): "Consistent with earlier observations by Carmona-Fontaine et al. (2011), in control cranial NC cells, active Rac1 displayed prominent localization at the leading edge of migrating cells, whereas its presence was reduced at cell-cell contacts, coincident with an increase in RhoA-GTP levels (white arrows in Fig. 3A, supplementary material Figure S3A,C). On the contrary, in comparison to the control cells, Gαi2 morphants exhibit a pronounced accumulation of active Rac1 protein in the protrusions at cell-cell contacts, where active RhoA localization is conventionally expected (white arrow in Fig. 4B, supplementary material Figure S3A,C and movie S4). In contrast to control cells, a notable shift in the localization of active RhoA protein was observed, with its predominant accumulation now detected at the leading edge of the cell, instead of the typical localization towards the trailing edge or cell-cell contacts (__supplementary material Figure S3B,C). __These findings suggest a dysregulation of contractile forces that align with the observed distribution of active RhoA, cortical actin disruption, and diminished retraction in cell treated with Gαi2MO."

      *Discussion section: (page 19 last line, page 20, paragraph 1, line 1-20) *

      "Other studies have reported that microtubule assembly promotes Rac1 signaling at the leading edge, while microtubule depolymerization stimulates RhoA signaling through guanine nucleotide exchange factors associated with microtubule-binding proteins controlling cell contractility, via Rho-ROCK and focal adhesion formation (Krendel et al., 2002; Ren et al., 1999; Best et al., 1996; Garcin and Straube, 2019; Waterman-Storer et al., 1999; Bershadsky et al., 1996; Moore et al., 2013). This mechanism would contribute to establishing the antero-posterior polarity of cells, crucial for maintaining migration directionality, underscoring the significance of regulating microtubule dynamics in directed cell migration. These findings closely align with the results obtained in this investigation, demonstrating that Gαi2 loss of function reduces microtubule catastrophes and promotes tubulin stabilization, resulting in increased localization of active Rac1 at the leading edge and cell-cell contacts, while decreasing active RhoA at the cell-cell contact but increasing it at the leading edge. This possibly reinforces focal adhesion, which is consistent with the presence of large and highly stable focal adhesions under Gαi2 knockdown conditions. This finding also suggests a dysregulation of contractile forces in comparison to control cells, a result that aligns with the observed distribution of active RhoA, cortical actin distribution and diminished retraction in cells treated with Gαi2MO. This strikingly contrasts with the normal cranial NC migration phenotype, where Rac1 is suppressed while active RhoA is increased at cell-cell contacts during CIL, leading to a shift in polarity towards the cell-free edge to sustain directed migration (Theveneau et al., 2010; Shoval and Kalcheim, 2012; Leal et al., 2018)."

      To consider focal adhesion dynamics, live imaging should be used in the analysis. The fixed samples are different from each other, and natural variations of focal adhesion may exist among the samples. This can obscure data collection and quantification.

      R: We agree with the reviewer that focal adhesion (FA) dynamics need to be analysed using live imaging. Indeed, Fig 5E-H shows an extensive analysis of FA using live imaging of neural crest expressing FAK-GFP. As complement to this live imaging analysis, and in order to analyse the effect on the endogenous levels of FA proteins, we performed immunostaining against FA. Both experiments using live imaging or fixed cells produce similar results, and they are consistent with our model on the role of Gαi2 on FA dynamics.

      Reviewer: minor comments

      Fig. 2, the centrosomes in control cells are not always obvious. The microtubules simply seem to be more networked and more fluid in control cells. This should be clarified with either marking the centrosomes in the figure or modifying the wording in the manuscript.

      R: We appreciate and concur with the reviewer's comment on this matter. As pointed out by the reviewer, the precise localization of the centrosome is not consistently clear in all cells. In response to this observation, we have revised the manuscript to emphasize this aspect solely as "microtubule morphology". Please refer to the Results section description Figure 2.

      In Fig. 3, a better negative control for co-IP should be using anti-V5 antibody to IP against tubulin/EB1/EB3 in the absence of Gai2-V5.

      R: We appreciate the reviewer's comment, and we agree with the suggested control. Accordingly, we have included this control in Supplementary material Figure S4A. Additionally, we conducted all Co-IPP in triplicate, and these data have been incorporated into Supplementary material Figure S4B. Furthermore, as mentioned earlier, we have reorganized some of the sections of the results to improve the logical flow of the manuscript's description. As a result, the Figure presenting the interaction analysis by Co-IPP now corresponds to Figure 5.

      The data for cell polarity proteins Par3 and PKC-zeta seem to be out of place. It is unclear whether mis-localization of these proteins has anything to do with NC migration defects induced by Gai2 knockdown. The conclusion does not seem to be affected if the data are taken out of the manuscript.

      R: We appreciate the reviewer's concern, and we would like to highlight two points in this regard. Firstly, we have included these results as additional data to support the impact of Gai2 knockdown on cell polarity, given that these two proteins are commonly used as polarity markers. Secondly, we have discussed this aspect extensively in the Discussion section of the manuscript. (See page 20, paragraph 1, lines 21-31).

      In that section, we delve into the relationship between aPKC, Par3, and Gαi2 in controlling cell polarity during asymmetric cell division, as described in Hao et al., 2010. Par3 is known to play a role in regulating microtubule dynamics and Rac1 activation through its interaction with Rac-GEF Tiam1 (Chen et al., 2005). Additionally, it has been shown to promote microtubule catastrophes and inhibit Rac1/Trio signaling, regulating Contact Inhibition of Locomotion (CIL) as demonstrated in Moore et al., 2013. Thus, we believe that the data we present support the relationship between Par3 and aPKC localization changes and the neural crest migration defects induced by Gαi2 knockdown, probably by controlling microtubule dynamics. However, we have moved these results as part of the supplementary Figure S3D-G.

      In Suppl. Fig. 1, protrusion versus retraction should be defined more clearly. The retraction shown in this figure seems to be just membrane between protrusions instead of actively retracting membrane.

      R: We appreciate the reviewer's comments, and here we aim to provide a clearer description of our approach to this analysis. For the measurement of protrusion extension/retraction, we conducted two distinct experiments. The first, as described in Figure 1, involved measuring membrane extension and retraction in live cell using membrane-GFP by utilizing the image subtraction tool in ImageJ, which highlights changes in the membrane in red. Secondly, we employed ADAPT software to quantify cell perimeter based on fluorescence intensity in live cell using lifeactin-GFP, distinguishing membrane extension in green and retraction in red (as has been shown similarly in Barry et al., 2015). In both approaches, we observed a substantial increase in membrane protrusion (both in area and extension) and protrusion stability in Gαi2 morphants. Hence, we have revised the Materials and Methods section of the manuscript and included this clarification.

      See Materials and Methods section, Cell dispersion and morphology, page 28.

      In addition we inform hat this images now are included in Supplementary material Fig S2G,H.

      Barry DJ, Durkin CH, Abella JV, Way M. Open source software for quantification of cell migration, protrusions and fluorescence intensities. J Cell Biol. 2015. Doi: 10.1083/jcb.201501081

      Discussion can be improved by better incorporating all the components to make a cohesive story on how Gai2 works to regulate migration in the context of the neural crest cells.

      R: We appreciate the reviewer's comment and agree. To enhance the manuscript, we have included a new paragraph at the end of the Discussion/Conclusion section specifically addressing this point. For more details, please refer to page 23.

      "Therefore, in the context of collective cranial NC cells migration, our findings reveal the pivotal role played by Gαi2 in orchestrating the intricate interplay of microtubule dynamics and cellular polarity. When Gαi2 levels are diminished, we observe significant impediments in the ability of cells to efficiently navigate through their environment, resulting in a range of distinct effects. First and foremost, Gαi2 deficiency leads to the diminished ability of cells to adjust and reorient new protrusions effectively. Primary protrusions exhibit higher stability and heightened levels of active Rac1/RhoA when compared to control conditions in the leading edge. In addition, we observe a notable increase in protrusion area, a decrease in retraction velocity, and an enhanced level of cell-matrix adhesion in Gαi2 knockdown cells. These findings underscore the pivotal role that Gαi2 plays in the modulation of various cellular dynamics essential for collective cranial NC cells migration. Notably, the application of nocodazole, a microtubule-depolymerizing agent, and NSC73266, a Rac1 inhibitor, to Gαi2 knockdown cells leads to the rescue of the observed effects, thus facilitating migration. This observed response closely mirrors the outcomes associated with Par3, a known regulator of microtubule catastrophe during contact inhibition of locomotion (CIL) in NC cells (Moore et al., 2013). This parallel implies that there exists a delicate equilibrium between microtubule dynamics and Rac1-GTP levels, crucial for the establishment of proper cell polarity during collective migration. Our findings collectively position Gαi2 as a central master regulator within the intricate framework of collective cranial NC migration. This master regulator role is pivotal in orchestrating the dynamics of polarity, morphology, and cell-matrix adhesion by modulating microtubule dynamics through interactions with EB1 and EB3 proteins, described here for the first time, possible in a protein complex involving other intermediary proteins such as other microtubules accessory proteins like CLIP170, actin intermediaries, like mDia1-2, and signaling proteins such as GDIs, GAPs and GEFs, thus fostering crosstalk between the actin and tubulin cytoskeletons. This orchestration ultimately ensures the effective collective migration of cranial NC cells (Fig. 6)."

      Review____er #2 (Significance (Required)):

      The authors demonstrate a role of Gai2 in regulation of neural crest migration in Xenopus by modulating microtubule dynamics. In addition, they show an effect of Gai2 knockdown on Rac1 spatial activation and focal adhesion stability. These are novel discoveries of the study. Some limitations exist in linking Gai2 with downstream effectors that directly or indirectly impact on cytoskeleton and Rac1 small GTPase.

      R: We really appreciate the reviewer positive comments and consideration. We believe that the review process has significantly strengthened our manuscript in this regard.

      FROM REVIEWER #3

      __ ____Reviewer: mayor comments:__

      The authors focus exclusively on the analysis of the subcellular levels of Rac1, which is probably related to the fact that they observe large extended protrusions with high Rac1 activity. However, as the authors note, a global fine-tuning of Rho GTPase activity is required for neural crest migration. One of the observed phenotypes of Gαi2-morphant neural crest cells is a decrease in cell dispersion, which may be caused by defects in contact inhibition of locomotion (CIL). This process involves a local activation of RhoA at cell-cell contact sites (Carmona-Fontaine et al., 2008). Furthermore, in fibroblast, RhoA/ROCK activity is required for the front-rear polarity switch during CIL (Kadir et al., 2011). Interestingly, similar to the Gαi2 loss of function phenotype, ROCK inhibition leads to microtubule stabilization, which can be rescued by nocodazole treatment, restoring microtubule dynamics and CIL. Therefore, it would also be interesting to know how RhoA activity is affected in Gαi2-morphant NC cells. At a minimum, this point should be be included in the discussion.

      R: We acknowledge and sincerely appreciate the reviewer's valuable comments on this pivotal aspect, which significantly enhances our capacity to elucidate the impact of Gαi2 knockdown on cell polarity. To address this crucial point, we have introduced an experiment that examines RhoA-GTP localization under Gαi2 knockdown conditions, and we have incorporated a supplementary figure S3A-C into our manuscript. This newly added figure clearly demonstrates that, under Gαi2 knockdown conditions and in contrast to control cells, RhoA-GTP localization is substantially disrupted at cell-cell contacts and now detected at the leading edge of the cell, providing compelling evidence of cell polarity defects (refer to Figure S3). In response to these results, we have included a description of these findings in the Results section (please see page 10) and a dedicated paragraph in the Discussion section (please see page 19-20).

      Results section 1 (page 10, paragraph 1 line 6-12): "To achieve this, we explored whether Gαi2 regulates the subcellular distribution of active Rac1 and RhoA in cranial NC explants under Gαi2 loss-of-function conditions, considering their pivotal roles in cranial NC migration and contact inhibition of locomotion (CIL) (Carmona-Fontaine et al., 2011; Moore et al., 2013; Leal et al., 2018). Hence, we employed mRNA encoding the small GTPase-based probe, enabling specific visualization of the GTP-bound states of these proteins."

      Results section 2 (page 10, paragraph 1 line 14-27): "Consistent with earlier observations by Carmona-Fontaine et al. (2011), in control cranial NC cells, active Rac1 displayed prominent localization at the leading edge of migrating cells, whereas its presence was reduced at cell-cell contacts, coincident with an increase in RhoA-GTP levels (white arrows in Fig. 3A, supplementary material Figure S3A,C). On the contrary, in comparison to the control cells, Gαi2 morphants exhibit a pronounced accumulation of active Rac1 protein in the protrusions at cell-cell contacts, where active RhoA localization is conventionally expected (white arrow in Fig. 4B, supplementary material Figure S3A,C and movie S4). In contrast to control cells, a notable shift in the localization of active RhoA protein was observed, with its predominant accumulation now detected at the leading edge of the cell, instead of the typical localization towards the trailing edge or cell-cell contacts (__supplementary material Figure S3B,C). __These findings suggest a dysregulation of contractile forces that align with the observed distribution of active RhoA, cortical actin disruption, and diminished retraction in cell treated with Gαi2MO."

      *Discussion section: (page 19, second paragraph, line 12 and page 20, paragraph 1, line 1-18) *

      "Other studies have reported that microtubule assembly promotes Rac1 signaling at the leading edge, while microtubule depolymerization stimulates RhoA signaling through guanine nucleotide exchange factors associated with microtubule-binding proteins controlling cell contractility, via Rho-ROCK and focal adhesion formation (Krendel et al., 2002; Ren et al., 1999; Best et al., 1996; Garcin and Straube, 2019; Waterman-Storer et al., 1999; Bershadsky et al., 1996; Moore et al., 2013). This mechanism would contribute to establishing the antero-posterior polarity of cells, crucial for maintaining migration directionality, underscoring the significance of regulating microtubule dynamics in directed cell migration. These findings closely align with the results obtained in this investigation, demonstrating that Gαi2 loss of function reduces microtubule catastrophes and promotes tubulin stabilization, resulting in increased localization of active Rac1 at the leading edge and cell-cell contacts, while decreasing active RhoA at the cell-cell contact but increasing it at the leading edge. This possibly reinforces focal adhesion, which is consistent with the presence of large and highly stable focal adhesions under Gαi2 knockdown conditions. This finding also suggests a dysregulation of contractile forces in comparison to control cells, a result that aligns with the observed distribution of active RhoA, cortical actin distribution and diminished retraction in cells treated with Gαi2MO. This strikingly contrasts with the normal cranial NC migration phenotype, where Rac1 is suppressed while active RhoA is increased at cell-cell contacts during CIL, leading to a shift in polarity towards the cell-free edge to sustain directed migration (Theveneau et al., 2010; Shoval and Kalcheim, 2012; Leal et al., 2018)."

      The co-Immunoprecipitation data lack marker bands (larger images/sections of the blots would be preferable) and the labelling is not clear. What do the white arrows in Fig. 3H,I mean? What does "elu" and "non eluted" mean?. ? Did the reverse IP work as well?

      R: We appreciate the reviewer's comments, and here we intend to provide a more detailed explanation of our approach to this analysis. Since we do not possess a secondary antibody specific to the heavy chain, our method involves eluting the co-immunoprecipitated proteins to visualize those with weights close to that of the light chain (such as EB1). We have outlined this elution step in the "Cell lysates and co-immunoprecipitation" protocol in the Materials and Methods section. To ensure proper control, we load both fractions - the eluted (or supernatant) and non-eluted (or resin) fractions - to monitor the amount of protein extracted from the resin using a 1% SDS solution. It's important to note that the elution step, as indicated by the V5 signal, is not entirely efficient, and a significant portion of the protein remains bound to the resin. This issue may also apply to the EB1 protein; however, it is still possible to visualize both bands (Gαi2V5 and EB1).

      As we mentioned earlier the Co-IPP analysis now are in Figure 5. We have revised the legend for Figure 5 to include an explanation of the terms 'elu' (eluted fraction) and 'non-eluted' (non-eluted fraction). We have also included the explanation of the white arrows' significance in the legends for Figure 5H and 5I. These arrows indicate the bands corresponding to the immunoprecipitated proteins.

      We also agree with the reviewer's suggestion to conduct the reverse IP. To address this point, and in favour of the lack of this control, accordingly, we have included a negative control for co-IP using anti-V5 antibody to IP, this control was included in Supplementary material Figure S4A. Additionally, we conducted all Co-IPP in triplicate, and these data have been incorporated into Supplementary material Figure S4B.

      The presentation of the Delaunay triangulations varies in quality. In Fig. 1 J/K the cells are clearly visible in the images, while this is not the case in Fig. 3 J-M and Fig. 4K-N. Conversely, the Delaunay triangulations in Fig. 1L are mainly black, while they are clear in Fig. 3 and 4. Perhaps the authors could find a more consistent way to present the data. Were the explants all approximately the same size at the beginning of the experiment? The Gαi2-morphant explant in Fig. 3K appears to be unusually small.

      R: We appreciate the reviewer's concerns and have taken steps to address them. To improve the quality of our data, we have made enhancements to the presentation of Figures 3 (panels L-O) and Figure 5 (panels P-S). Specifically, we have standardized the Delaunay triangulation representations.

      Regarding the size of the explants at the beginning of the experiments, they were indeed approximately similar in size. We confirmed this by including a reference point (point 0) for each condition in the figures 5. However, in the panels presented, we show the results after 10 hours (Figure 5, X. laevis, in the actual Figure organization) and 4 hours (Figure 3, X. tropicalis, in the actual Figure organization) to assess cell dispersion, as indicated in the respective figure legends. This uniformity in size was further ensured by the calculation used to quantify dispersion. For the dispersion assay, we normalized each initial size of the explant upon the control, and we have added another representative explant of Gαi2 morpholino with its Delaunay triangulation to facilitate the experiment interpretation. Every Delaunay triangulation calculates the area generated between three adjacent cells and it grows depending on how much disperse are the cells between each other in the final point. (See Material and Methods section, Cell dispersion and morphology). As we can see in the manuscript, in every dispersion experiment that we have performed with Gαi2 morpholino, the cells cannot disperse at all. Furthermore, to analyze the dispersion rate in this experiment we use Control n= 21 explants, Gαi2MO n= 24 explants, Gαi2MO + 65 nM Nocodazole n= 36 explants, Control + 65 nM Nocodazole n= 30 explants (as we mentioned in the manuscript legend).

      Why was the tubulin distribution in Fig. 2F measured from the nucleus to the cell cortex? Would it not make more sense to include cell protrusions? This does not seem to be the case in the example shown in Fig. 2F.

      R: We appreciate the reviewer's concern. We would like to clarify that for the tubulin distribution measurements, we indeed measured from the nucleus to the cell protrusion. As a result, we have made an edit to Figure 2 (panel 2F) to provide further clarity on this matter.

      The immunostaining for acetylated tubulin (Fig. 3A,B) looks potentially unspecific and seems to co-localize with actin (for comparison see Bance et al., 2019). For imaging and quantification, it may be better to use tubulin co-staining to calculate the percentage of acetylated tubulin. Please also add marker bands to the Western blot in Fig. 3C. If this issue cannot be resolved it may be better to only include the Western blot data.

      R: We appreciate the reviewer's concern about the potential unspecific nature of acetylated-tubulin and its co-localization with actin. Regarding the co-localization with actin, it is predominantly observed in panel B, and we attribute this phenomenon to the Gαi2 morphant phenotype, where cortical actin is notably reduced, creating the appearance of co-localization. In response to the reviewer comment, we have retained the acetylated tubulin western blot analysis in the main Figure 5A,B, while relocating the immunofluorescence analysis to Supplementary material Figure S4C-H. Additionally, we have included the measurements of the acetylated tubulin fluorescence intensity for both conditions Gαi2MO and control, as depicted Supplementary material Figure S4I.

      We have also included marker weight indications on the western blot panel in now Figure 5A.

      The model in Fig.6 indicates that Gαi2 inhibits EB1/3. What is the experimental evidence and the proposed mechanism for this? In the discussion, the authors cite evidence that Gαi activates the intrinsic GTPase activity of tubulin, which would destabilize microtubules by removing the GTP cap. However, this mechanism would not directly affect EB1 and EB3 stability as the Fig. 6A seems to suggest. The authors also mention that EB3 appears to be permanently associated with microtubules in Gαi2-morphant cells. How would this work, given that end-binding proteins bind to the cap region? Are the authors suggesting that there is an extended cap region in Gαi2 morphants?

      R: We appreciate the reviewer's valuable comments. We have revised our model accordingly to our data and new data that we have incorporated regarding interaction analysis conducted by PLA (proximity ligand assay), in order to further elucidate the mechanism underlying Gαi2 regulation of cranial neural crest cell migration. This analysis supports our actual proposed model, indicating Gαi2 interacts with EB proteins to form a complex with tubulin, thereby regulating microtubules dynamics and subsequently influencing Rac1 and RhoA activity, cell morphology (actin cytoskeleton) and cell-matrix adhesion, ultimately affecting migration. Therefore, we have revised our model and its description to provide a more detailed explanation of the potential mechanism in line with the reviewer suggestion. Specifically, we have edited the discussion/conclusion, model and the legend for Figure 6. Please refer to page 16 (paragraph 1, 2 and 3), 22 (paragraph 1), 23 (paragraph 1), 45 (Legend Fig. 6). In addition, in Gαi2 knockdown conditions we have found a strong reduction in microtubules dynamics following EB3-GFP comets. Regarding the observation that EB3 seems to be persistently associated with microtubules in Gαi2-morphant cells, we wish to clarify that this is a speculation based on the microtubule phenotype observed during our dynamic analysis, where they appear more like lines rather than comets. It is important to note that none of the experiments conducted in this study conclusively demonstrate this, and thus, it remains a suggestion. As a result, we have revised our model in accordance with the reviewer suggestion.

      Reviewer 3: minor comments:

      The citation of Wang et al. 2018 in the introduction does not seem to fit.

      R: We appreciate the correction provided by the reviewer. We have carefully reviewed the Introduction and Reference sections and have corrected this error.

      Does the graph in Fig. 4S show average values for the three conditions? If so, what is the standard deviation?

      R: We appreciate the reviewer's concern and we have added the standard deviation to now Figure 4J.

      From the images in Fig. 2G and H, it is difficult to understand what the difference is between the four groups shown.

      R: We appreciate the reviewer's comment, and to clarify this point, we would like to explain that the comparison has been made between each type of comet. The PlusTipTracker software separates comets based on their speed and lifetime, classifying them as fast long-lived, fast short-lived, slow long-lived, or slow short-lived. In both conditions (control and morphant cells), we compared the percentage of each type of comet, as previously described in Moore et al., 2013. The results demonstrate that morphant cells exhibit an increase in slow comets compared to control cells. The same explanation is described in the Material and Methods section on page 28, Microtubule dynamics analysis.

      Review____er #3: (Significance (Required)):

      Overall, the study is well executed and significantly advances our understanding of the control and role of microtubule dynamics in cell migration, which is much less understood compared to the function of the actin cytoskeleton in this process. The strength of the study is the use of state-of-the-art (live imaging) techniques to characterize the role of Gαi in neural crest migration at the cellular/subcellular level. This article will be of interest to a broad readership, including researchers interested in basic embryonic morphogenesis, cell migration, and cytoskeletal dynamics, as well as translational/clinical researchers interested in cancer progression or wound healing.

      R: We really appreciate the reviewer positive comments and consideration. We believe that the review process has significantly strengthened our manuscript.

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    1. Author response:

      The following is the authors’ response to the previous reviews.

      eLife assessment

      The authors have made important contributions to our understanding of the pathogenesis of erectile dysfunction (ED) in diabetic patients. They have identified the gene Lbh, expressed in pericytes of the penis and decreased in diabetic animals. Overexpression of Lbh appears to counteract ED in these animals. The authors also confirm Lbh as a potential marker in cavernous tissues in both humans and mice. While solid evidence supports Lbh's functional role as a marker gene, further research is needed to elucidate the specific mechanisms by which it exerts its effects. This work is of interest to those working in the fields of ED and angiogenesis.

      Public Reviews:

      Reviewer #1 (Public Review):

      In this study, the researchers aimed to investigate the cellular landscape and cell-cell interactions in cavernous tissues under diabetic conditions, specifically focusing on erectile dysfunction (ED). They employed single-cell RNA sequencing to analyze gene expression patterns in various cell types within the cavernous tissues of diabetic individuals. The researchers identified decreased expression of genes associated with collagen or extracellular matrix organization and angiogenesis in several cell types, including fibroblasts, chondrocytes, myofibroblasts, valve-related lymphatic endothelial cells, and pericytes. They also discovered a newly identified marker, LBH, that distinguishes pericytes from smooth muscle cells in mouse and human cavernous tissues. Furthermore, the study revealed that pericytes play a role in angiogenesis, adhesion, and migration by communicating with other cell types within the corpus cavernosum. However, these interactions were found to be significantly reduced under diabetic conditions. The study also investigated the role of LBH and its interactions with other proteins (CRYAB and VIM) in maintaining pericyte function and highlighted their potential involvement in regulating neurovascular regeneration. Overall, the manuscript is well-written and the study provides novel insights into the pathogenesis of ED in patients with diabetes and identifies potential therapeutic targets for further investigation.

      Comments on revised version:

      For Figure 4, immunofluorecent staining of LBH following intracavernous injections with lentiviruses is required to justify overexpression and tissue specificity.

      We agree with this claims. Therefore, we have performed the immunofluorecent staining of LBH in cavernous tissues after infection with LBH O/E lentiviruses. And we found the LBH expression is significantly decreased in DM or DM+NC groups, however, after infection with LBH O/E lentiviruses, the LBH expression is significantly increased, shown as Supplementary Fig. 10. (Please see revised ‘Result’ and ‘Supplementary Fig. 10’)

      Reviewer #3 (Public Review):

      Bae et al. described the key roles of pericytes in cavernous tissues in diabetic erectile dysfunction using both mouse and human single-cell transcriptomic analysis. Erectile dysfunction (ED) is caused by dysfunction of the cavernous tissue and affects a significant proportion of men aged 40-70. The most common treatment for ED is phosphodiesterase 5 inhibitors; however, these are less effective in patients with diabetic ED. Therefore, there is an unmet need for a better understanding of the cavernous microenvironment, cell-cell communications in patients with diabetic ED, and the development of new therapeutic treatments to improve the quality of life.

      Pericytes are mesenchymal-derived mural cells that directly interact with capillary endothelial cells (ECs). They play a vital role in the pathogenesis of erectile function as their interactions with ECs are essential for penile erection. Loss of pericytes has been associated with diabetic retinopathy, cancer, and Alzheimer's disease and has been investigated in relation to the permeability of cavernous blood vessels and neurovascular regeneration in the authors' previous studies. This manuscript explores the mechanisms underlying the effect of diabetes on pericyte dysfunction in ED. Additionally, the cellular landscape of cavernous tissues and cell type-specific transcriptional changes were carefully examined using both mouse and human single-cell RNA sequencing in diabetic ED. The novelty of this work lies in the identification of a newly identified pericyte (PC)-specific marker, LBH, in mouse and human cavernous tissues, which distinguishes pericytes from smooth muscle cells. LBH not only serves as a cavernous pericyte marker, but its expression level is also reduced in diabetic conditions. The LBH-interacting proteins (Cryab and Vim) were further identified in mouse cavernous pericytes, indicating that these signaling interactions are critical for maintaining normal pericyte function. Overall, this study demonstrates the novel marker of pericytes and highlights the critical role of pericytes in diabetic ED.

      Comments on revised version:

      Bae and colleagues substantially improved the data quality and revised their manuscript "Pericytes contribute to pulmonary vascular remodeling via HIF2a signaling". While these revisions clarify some of the concerns raised, others remain. In my view, the following question must be addressed.

      In my prior question on #3, I completely disagree with the statement that "identified cells with pericyte-like characteristics in the walls of large blood vessels". The staining that authors provided for LBH, was clearly stained for SMCs, not pericytes. Per Fig 2E, the authors are correct that LBH is colocalized with SMA+ cells( SMCs). However, the red signal from LBH clearly stains endothelial cells. In the rest of 2E and 2D, LBH is CD31- and their location suggests LBH stained for SMCs in the Aorta, Kidney vasculature, Dorsal vein, and Dorsal Artery.

      We respect the reviewer's comments and provide further justification for the reviewer's concerns. We first performed double staining of LBH and CD31 on dorsal artery and dorsal vein tissues. We found that LBH-expressing cells are completely different from CD31-expressing cells (Figrue 2D, indicated by arrows, and Supplementary Fig. 10A) and that expression is higher in veins than in arteries. This is consistent with previous understanding. In addition, in the double staining of LBH and α-SMA, we also found that there was no overlap between LBH-expressing cells and α-SMA-expressing smooth muscle cells in the cavernosum tissues, but there was some overlap in dorsal artery and dorsal vein (Figrue 2E, indicated by arrows). This may indicate that LBH is expressed slightly different types of blood vessels. This requires further experiments to prove in the future. In addition, to avoid confusion among other readers. We modify our previous discussion regarding the identification of cells with pericyte-like characteristics in the walls of large blood vessels. We removed the associated immunofluorescence staining in the aorta and kidneys replaced them with dorsal artery and dorsal vein (Please see revised ‘Result’ and ‘Figure 2’ and ‘Supplementary Fig. 10A’)

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    1. Author response:

      The following is the authors’ response to the original reviews.

      eLife assessment

      Following small molecule screens, this study provides convincing evidence that 7,8 dihydroxyflavone (DHF) is a competitive inhibitor of pyridoxal phosphatase. These results are important since they offer an alternative mechanism for the effects of 7,8 dihdroxyflavone in cognitive improvement in several mouse models. This paper is also significant due to the interest in the protein phosphatases and neurodegeneration fields.

      Public Reviews:

      Reviewer #1 (Public Review):

      Summary:

      Zink et al set out to identify selective inhibitors of the pyridoxal phosphatase (PDXP). Previous studies had demonstrated improvements in cognition upon removal of PDXP, and here the authors reveal that this correlates with an increase in pyridoxal phosphate (PLP; PDXP substrate and an active coenzyme form of vitamin B6) with age. Since several pathologies are associated with decreased vitamin B6, the authors propose that PDXP is an attractive therapeutic target in the prevention/treatment of cognitive decline. Following high throughput and secondary small molecule screens, they identify two selective inhibitors. They follow up on 7, 8 dihydroxyflavone (DHF). Following structure-activity relationship and selectivity studies, the authors then solve a co-crystal structure of 7,8 DHF bound to the active site of PDXP, supporting a competitive mode of PDXP inhibition. Finally, they find that treating hippocampal neurons with 7,8 DHF increases PLP levels in a WT but not PDXP KO context. The authors note that 7,8 DHF has been used in numerous rodent neuropathology models to improve outcomes. 7, 8 DHF activity was previously attributed to activation of the receptor tyrosine kinase TrkB, although this appears to be controversial. The present study raises the possibility that it instead/also acts through modulation of PLP levels via PDXP, and is an important area for future work.

      Strengths:

      The strengths of the work are in the comprehensive, thorough, and unbiased nature of the analyses revealing the potential for therapeutic intervention in a number of pathologies.

      Weaknesses:

      Potential weaknesses include the poor solubility of 7,8 DHF that might limit its bioavailability given its relatively low potency (IC50= 0.8 uM), which was not improved by SAR. However, the compound has an extended residence me and the co-crystal structure could aid the design of more potent molecules and would be of interest to those in the pharmaceutical industry. The images related to crystal structure could be improved.

      Reviewer #2 (Public Review):

      Summary:

      In this study, the authors performed a screening for PDXP inhibitors to identify compounds that could increase levels of pyridoxal 5'- phosphate (PLP), the co-enzymatically active form of vitamin B6. For the screening of inhibitors, they first evaluated a library of about 42,000 compounds for activators and inhibitors of PDXP and secondly, they validated the inhibitor compounds with a counter-screening against PGP, a close PDXP relative. The final narrowing down to 7,8-DHF was done using PLP as a substrate and confirmed the efficacy of this flavonoid as an inhibitor of PDXP function. Physiologically, the authors show that, by acutely treating isolated wild-type hippocampal neurons with 7,8-DHF they could detect an increase in the ratio of PLP/PL compared to control cultures. This effect was not seen in PDXP KO neurons.

      Strengths:

      The screening and validation of the PDXP inhibitors have been done very well because the authors have performed crystallographic analysis, a counter screening, and mutation analysis. This is very important because such rigor has not been applied to the original report of 7,8 DHF as an agonist for TrkB. Which is why there is so much controversy on this finding.

      Weaknesses:

      As mentioned in the summary report the study may benefit from some in vivo analysis of PLP levels following 7,8-DHF treatment, although I acknowledge that it may be challenging because of the working out of the dosage and timing of the procedure.

      Reviewer #3 (Public Review):

      This is interesting biology. Vitamin B6 deficiency has been linked to cognitive impairment. It is not clear whether supplements are effective in restoring functional B6 levels. Vitamin B6 is composed of pyridoxal compounds and their phosphorylated forms, with pyridoxal 5-phosphate (PLP) being of particular importance. The levels of PLP are determined by the balance between pyridoxal kinase and phosphatase activities. The authors are testing the hypothesis that inhibition of pyridoxal phosphatase (PDXP) would arrest the age-dependent decline in PLP, offering an alternative therapeutic strategy to supplements. Published data illustrating that ablation of the Pdxp gene in mice led to increases in PLP levels and improvement in learning and memory trials are consistent with this hypothesis.

      In this report, the authors conduct a screen of a library of ~40k small molecules and identify 7,8dihydroxyflavone (DHF) as a candidate PDXP inhibitor. They present an initial characterization of this micromolar inhibitor, including a co-crystal structure of PDXP and 7,8-DHF. In addition, they demonstrate that treatment of cells with 7,8 DHP increases PLP levels. Overall, this study provides further validation of PDXP as a therapeutic target for the treatment of disorders associated with vitamin B6 deficiency and provides proof-of-concept for inhibition of the target with small-molecule drug candidates.

      Strengths include the biological context, the focus on an interesting and under-studied class of protein phosphatases that includes several potential therapeutic targets, and the identification of a small molecule inhibitor that provides proof-of-concept for a new therapeutic strategy. Overall, the study has the potential to be an important development for the phosphatase field in general.

      Weaknesses include the fact that the compound is very much an early-stage screening hit. It is an inhibitor with micromolar potency for which mechanisms of action other than inhibition of PDXP have been reported. Extensive further development will be required to demonstrate convincingly the extent to which its effects in cells are due to on-target inhibition of PDXP.

      Recommendations for the authors:

      There is general agreement that the study represents an advance regarding the mechanisms of pyridoxal phosphatase and 7,8 DHF. From the reviewers' comments, several major questions and considerations are raised, followed by their detailed remarks:

      (1) More analysis of the solubility and dose of 7,8 DHF with regard to the 50% inhibition and the salt bridge of the B protomer, as raised by the reviewers.

      (2) Is there a possible involvement of another phosphatase?

      (3) Does 7,8 DHF cause an effect upon TrkB tyrosine phosphorylation?

      We thank the Reviewers and Editors for their fair and constructive comments and suggestions. We have performed additional experiments to address these questions and considerations. In addition, we have generated two new high-resoling (1.5 Å) crystal structures of human PDXP in complex with 7,8-DHF that substantially expand our understanding of 7,8-DHF-mediated PDXP inhibition. The scientist who performed this work for the revision of our manuscript has been added as an author (shared first authorship).

      We believe that the insights gained from these new data have further strengthened and improved the quality of our manuscript. Together, our data provide compelling evidence that 7,8-dihydroxyflavone is a direct and competitive inhibitor of pyridoxal phosphatase.

      Please find our point-by-point responses to the Public Reviews that are not addressed in the Recommendations for the Authors, and the Recommendations for the Authors below.

      Reviewer #2:

      As mentioned in the summary report the study may benefit from some in vivo analysis of PLP levels following 7,8-DHF treatment, although I acknowledge that it may be challenging because of the working out of the dosage and timing of the procedure.

      We agree that an in vivo analysis of PLP levels following 7,8-DHF treatment could be informative for the further evaluation of a possible mechanistic link between the reported effects of this compound and PDXP/vitamin B6. However, we currently do not have a corresponding animal experimentation permission in place and are unlikely to obtain such a permit within a reasonable me frame for this revision.

      Recommendations For The Authors:

      Reviewer #1:

      The work is already well-written, comprehensive, and convincing.

      Suggestions that could improve the manuscript.

      (1) Include a protein tyrosine phosphatase (PTP) in the selectivity analysis. One possibility is that 7,8 DHF acts on a PTP (such as PTP1B), leading to TrkB activation by preventing dephosphorylation. I note that a previous study has looked at SAR for flavones with PTP1B (PMID: 29175190), which is worth discussion.

      We thank the reviewer for bringing this interesting possibility to our attention. We were not aware of the SAR study for flavonoids with PTP1B by Proenca et al. but have now tested the effect of 7,8-DHF on PTP1B, referring to this paper. As shown in Figure 2d, PTP1B was not inhibited by 7,8-DHF at a concentration of 5 or 10 µM. At the highest tested concentration of 40 µM, 7,8-DHF inhibited PTP1B merely by ~20%. For comparison, compound C13 (3-hydroxy-7,8-dihydroxybenzylflavone-3’,4’dihydroxymethyl-phenyl), which emerged as the most active flavonoid in the SAR study by Proenca et al. inhibited PTP1B with an IC50 of 10 µM. Consistent with the results of these authors, our finding confirms that less polar substituents, such as O-benzyl groups at positions 7 and 8, and O-methyl groups at positions 3’ and 4’ of the flavone scaffold, are important for the ability of flavonoids to effectively inhibit PTP1B. We conclude that PTP1B inhibition by 7,8-DHF is unlikely to be a primary contributor to the reported cellular and in vivo effects of this flavone.

      In addition to PTP1B, we have now additionally tested the effect of 7,8-DHF on the serine/threonine protein phosphatase calcineurin/PP2B, the DNA/RNA-directed alkaline phosphatase CIP, and three other metabolite-directed HAD phosphatases, namely NANP, NT5C1A and PNKP. PP2B, CIP and NANP were not inhibited by 7,8-DHF. Similar to PTP1B, PNKP activity was attenuated (~30%) only at 40 µM 7,8-DHF. In contrast, 7,8-DHF effectively inhibited NT5C1A (IC50 ~10 µM). NT5C1A is an AMP hydrolase expressed in skeletal muscle and heart. To our knowledge, a role of NT5C1A in the brain has not been reported. Based on currently available information, the inhibition of NT5C1A therefore appears unlikely to contribute to 7,8-DHF effects in the brain.

      The results of these experiments are shown in the revised Figure 2d. Taken together, the extended selectivity analysis of 7,8-DHF on a total of 12 structurally and functionally diverse protein- and nonprotein-directed phosphatases supports our initial conclusion that 7,8-DHF preferentially inhibits PDXP.

      (2) Line 144: It is unclear how fig 2c supports the statement here. Remove call out for clarity.

      Our intention was to highlight the fact that 7,8-DHF concentrations >12.5 µM could not be tested in the BLI assay (shown in Figure 2c) due to 7,8-DHF solubility issues under these experimental conditions. However, since this is discussed in the text, but not directly visible in Figure 2c, we agree with the Reviewer and have removed this call out.

      (3) Figure 3a. It is difficult to see the pink 7,8 DHF on top of the pink ribbon backbone. A better combination of colours could be used. Likewise in Figure 3b it is pink on pink again.

      We have improved the combination of colors to enhance the visibility of 7,8-DHF and have consistently color-coded murine and the new human PDXP structures throughout the manuscript.

      (4) Figure 3c and d. These are the two protomers I believe, but the colour coding is not present in 3c where the ribbon is now gray. Please choose colours that can be used to encode protomers throughout the figure.

      Please see response to point 3 above.

      (5) Figure 3f. I think this is the same protomer as 3c but a 180-degree rotation. Could this be indicated, or somehow lined up between the two figures for clarity? It would also be useful to have 3e in the same orientation as 3f, to better visualise the overlap with PLP binding. PLP and 7,8 DHF could be labelled similarly to the amino acids in 3f (the colour coding here is helpful).

      Please see response to point 3 above. We have substantially revised the structural figures and have used consistent color coding and the same perspective of 7,8-DHF in the PDXP active sites.

      (6) Figure 3g. The colours of the bars relating to specific mutations do not quite match the colours in Figure 3f, which I think was the aim and is very helpful.

      We have adapted the colours of the residues in Figure 3f (now Fig. 3b and additionally Fig. 3 – figure supplement 1e) so that they exactly match the colours of the bars in Figure 3g (now Fig. 3d).

      Reviewer #2:

      No further comments.

      Reviewer #3:

      Page 4: The authors describe 7,8DHF as a "selective" inhibitor of PDXP - in my opinion, they do not have sufficient data to support such a strong assertion. Reports that 7,8DHF may act as a TRK-B-agonist already highlight a potential problem of off-target effects. Does 7,8DHF promote tyrosine phosphorylation of TRK-B in their hands? The selectivity panel presented in Figure 2, focusing on 5 other HAD phosphatases, is much too limited to support assertions of selectivity.

      We agree with the Reviewer that our previous selectivity analysis with six HAD phosphatases was limited. To further explore the phosphatase target spectrum of 7,8-DHF, we have now analyzed six other enzymes: three other non-HAD phosphatases (the tyrosine phosphatase PTP1B, the serine/threonine protein phosphatase PP2B/calcineurin, and the DNA/RNA-directed alkaline phosphatase/CIP) and three other non-protein-directed C1/C0-type HAD phosphatases (NT5C1A, NANP, and PNKP). The C1-capped enzymes NT5C1A and NANP were chosen because we previously found them to be sensitive to small molecule inhibitors of the PDXP-related phosphoglycolate phosphatase PGP (PMID: 36369173). PNKP was chosen to increase the coverage of C0-capped HAD phosphatases (previously, only the C0-capped MDP1 was tested).

      We found that calcineurin, CIP and NANP were not inhibited by up to 40 µM 7,8-DHF. The activities of PTP1B or PNKP activity were attenuated (by ~20 or 30%, respectively) only at 40 µM 7,8-DHF. In contrast, 7,8-DHF effectively inhibited NT5C1A (IC50 ~10 µM). We have previously found that NT5C1A was sensitive to small-molecule inhibitors of the PDXP paralog PGP, although these molecules are structurally unrelated to 7,8-DHF (PMID: 36369173). NT5C1A is an AMP hydrolase expressed in skeletal muscle and heart (PMID: 12947102). To our knowledge, a role of NT5C1A in the brain has not been reported. Based on currently available information, the inhibition of NT5C1A therefore appears unlikely to contribute to 7,8-DHF effects in the brain. The results of these experiments are shown in the revised Figure 2d. Taken together, the extended selectivity analysis of 7,8-DHF on a total of 12 structurally and functionally diverse protein- and non-protein-directed phosphatases supports our initial conclusion that 7,8-DHF preferentially inhibits PDXP. To nevertheless avoid any overstatement, we have now also replaced “selective” by “preferential” in this context throughout the manuscript.

      We have not tested if 7,8-DHF promotes tyrosine phosphorylation of TRK-B. Being able to detect 7,8- DHF-induced TRK-B phosphorylation in our hands would not exclude an additional role for PDXP/vitamin B6-dependent processes. Not being able to detect TRK-B phosphorylation may indicate absence of evidence or evidence of absence. This would neither conclusively rule out a biological role for 7,8-DHF-induced TRK-B phosphorylation in vivo, nor contribute further insights into a possible involvement of vitamin B6-dependent processes in 7,8-DHF induced effects.

      Page 6: The authors report that they obtained only two PDXP-selective inhibitor hits from their screen; 7,8DHF and something they describe as FMP-1. For the later, they state that it "was obtained from an academic donor, and its structure is undisclosed for intellectual property reasons". In my opinion, this is totally unacceptable. This is an academic research publication. If the authors wish to present data, they must do so in a manner that allows a reader to assess their significance; in the case of work with small molecules that includes the chemical structure. In my opinion, the authors should either describe the compound fully or remove mention of it altogether.

      We are unable to describe “FMP-1” because its identity has not been disclosed to us. The academic donor of this molecule informed us that they were not able to permit release of any details of its structure or general structural class due to an emerging commercial interest.

      We mentioned FMP-1 simply to highlight the fact that the screening campaign yielded more than one inhibitor. FMP-1 was also of interest due its complete inhibition of PDXP phosphatase activity.

      Because the structure of this molecule is unknown to us, we have now removed any mention of this compound in the manuscript. For the same reason, we have removed the mention of the inhibitor hits “FMP-2” and “FMP-3” in Figure 2 – figure supplement 1 and Figure 2 – figure supplement 2. The number of PDXP inhibitor hits in the manuscript has been adapted accordingly.

      Page 7: The observed plateau at 50% inhibition requires further explanation. It is not clear how poor solubility of the compound explains this observation. For example, the authors state that "due to the aforementioned poor solubility of 7,8DHF, concentrations higher than 12.5µM could not be evaluated". Yet on page 8, they describe assays against the specificity panel at concentrations of compound up to 40µM. Do the analogues of 7,8DHF (Fig 2b) result in >50% inhibition at higher concentrations? Further explanation and data on the solubility of the compounds would be of benefit.

      We currently do not have a satisfactory explanation for the apparent plateau of ~50% PDXP inhibition by 7,8-DHF. Resolving this question will likely require other approaches, including computational chemistry such as molecular dynamics simulations, and we feel that this is beyond the scope of the present manuscript.

      We previously speculated that the limited solubility of 7,8-DHF may counteract a complete enzyme inhibition if higher concentrations of this molecule are required. Specifically, we referred to Todd et al. who have performed HPLC-UV-based solubility assays of 7,8-DHF (ref. 35). These authors found that immediately after 7,8-DHF solubilization, nominal 7,8-DHF concentrations of 5, 20 or 50 µM resulted in 0.5, 3.0 or 13 µM of 7,8-DHF in solution of (i.e., 10, 15 or 26% of the respective nominal concentration). Seven hours later, 46, 26 or 26% of the respective nominal 7,8-DHF concentrations were found in solution. Hence, above a nominal concentration of 5 µM, 7,8-DHF solubility does not increase linearly with the input concentration, but plateaus at ~20% of the nominal concentration. This phenomenon could potentially contribute to the apparent plateau of human or murine PDXP inhibition by 7,8-DHF in vitro.

      However, experiments performed during the revision of our manuscript show that they HAD phosphatase NT5C1A can be effectively inhibited by 7,8-DHF with an IC50-value of 10 µM (see revised Fig. 2). Together with the fact that the activity of the PDXP-Asn61Ser variant can be completely inhibited by 7,8-DHF (see Fig. 3d), we conclude that the reason for the observed plateau of PDXP inhibition is likely to be primarily structural, with Asn61 impeding 7,8-DHF binding. We have therefore removed the mention of the limited solubility of 7,8-DHF here. On p.14, we now say: “These data also suggest that Asn61 contributes to the limited efficacy of 7,8-mediated PDXP inhibition in vitro.”

      The solubility of 7,8-DHF is dependent on the specific assay and buffer conditions. In BLI experiments, interference patterns caused by binding of 7,8-DHF in solution to biotinylated PDXP immobilized on the biosensor surface are measured. In phosphatase selectivity assays, phosphatases are in solution, and the effect of 7,8-DHF on the phosphatase activity is measured via the quantification of free inorganic phosphate.

      In BLI experiments, we observed that the sensorgrams obtained with the highest tested 7,8-DHF concentration (25 µM) showed the same curve shapes as the sensorgrams obtained with 12.5 µM 7,8-DHF. This contrasts with the expected steeper slope of the curves at 25 µM vs. 12.5 µM 7,8-DHF. The same behavior was observed for the reference sensors (i.e., the SSA sensors that were not loaded with PDXP, but incubated with 7,8-DHF at all employed concentrations for referencing against nonspecific binding of 7,8-DHF to the sensors). The sensorgrams at 25 µM 7,8-DHF were therefore not included in the analysis (this is now specified in the Materials and Methods BLI section on p.27). To clarify this point, we now state that “As a result of the poor solubility of the molecule, a saturation of the binding site was not experimentally accessible” (p.7).

      In contrast, the phosphatase selectivity assays described on p.8 could be performed with nominal 7,8-DHF concentrations of up to 40 µM. Although the effective 7,8-DHF concentration in solution is expected to be lower (see ref. 35 and discussed above), the limited solubility of 7,8-DHF in phosphatase assays does not prevent the quantification of free inorganic phosphate. Nevertheless, we cannot exclude some interference with this absorbance-based assay (e.g., due to turbidity caused by insoluble compound). Indeed, 5,6-dihydroxyflavone and 5,6,7-trihydroxyflavone caused an apparent increase in PDXP activity at concentrations above 10 µM (see Figure 2b), which may be related to compound solubility issues. Alternatively, these flavones may activate PDXP at higher concentrations.

      We have tested the 7,8-DHF analogue 3,7,8,4’-tetrahydroxyflavone at concentrations of 70 and 100 µM. At concentrations >100 µM, the DMSO concentration required for solubilizing the flavone interferes with PDXP activity. PDXP inhibition by 3,7,8,4’-tetrahydroxyflavone was slightly increased at 70 µM compared to 40 µM (by ~18%) but plateaued between 70 and 100 µM. These results are now mentioned in the text (p.7): “The efficacy of PDXP inhibition by 3,7,8,4’-tetrahydroxyflavone was not substantially increased at concentrations >40 µM (relative PDXP activity at 40 µM: 0.46 ± 0.05; at 70 µM: 0.38 ± 0.15; at 100 µM: 0.37 ± 0.09; data are mean values ± S.D. of n=6 experiments).”

      Page 9: The authors report that PDXP crystallizes as a homodimer in which 7,8DHF is bound only to one protomer. Is the second protomer active? Does that contribute to the 50% inhibition plateau? If Arg62 is mutated to break the salt bridge, does inhibition go beyond 50%?

      We have no way to measure the activity of the second, inhibitor-free protomer in murine PDXP. We know that PDXP functions as a constitutive homodimer, and based on our current understanding, both protomers are active. We have previously shown that the experimental monomerization of PDXP (upon introduction of two-point mutants in the dimerization interface) strongly reduces its phosphatase activity. Specifically, PDXP homodimerization is required for an inter-protomer interaction that mediates the proper positioning of the substrate specificity loop. Thus, homodimerization is necessary for effective substrate coordination and -dephosphorylation (PMID: 24338687).

      In the murine structure, we observed that 7,8-DHF binding to the second subunit (the B-protomer) is prevented by a salt bridge between Arg62 and Asp14 of a symmetry-related A-protomer in the crystal lace (i.e., this is not a salt bridge between Arg62 in the B-protomer and Asp14 in the A-protomer of a PDXP homodimer). As suggested, we have nevertheless tested the potential role of this salt bridge for the sensitivity of the PDXP homodimer to 7,8-DHF.

      The mutation of Arg62 is not suitable to answer this question, because this residue is involved in the coordination of 7,8-DHF (see Figure 3b), and the PDXP-Arg62Ala mutant is inhibitor resistant (see Figure 3d). We have therefore mutated Asp14, which is not involved in 7,8-DHF coordination. As shown in the new Figure 3 – figure supplement 1d, the 7,8-DHF-mediated inhibition of PDXPAsp14Ala again reached a plateau at ~50%. This result suggests that while an Arg62-Asp14 salt bridge is stabilized in the murine crystal, it is not a determinant of the active site accessibility of protomer B in solution.

      To address this important question further, we have now also generated co-crystals of human PDXP bound to 7,8-DHF, and refined two structures to 1.5 Å. We found that in human PDXP, both protomers bind 7,8-DHF. These new, higher resolution data are now shown in the revised Figure 3 and its figure supplements, and we have moved the panels referring to the previously reported murine PDXP structure to the Figure 3 – figure supplement 1. Thus, both protomers of human PDXP, but only one protomer of murine PDXP bind 7,8-DHF in the crystal structure, yet the 7,8-DHFmediated inhibition of human and murine PDXP plateaus at ~50% under the phosphatase assay conditions (see Figure 2a). We conclude that 7,8-DHF binding efficiency in the PDXP crystal does not necessarily reflect its inhibitory efficiency in solution.

      Taken together, these data indicate that the apparent partial inhibition of murine and human PDXP phosphatase activity by 7,8-DHF in our in vitro assays is not explained by an exclusive binding of 7,8DHF to just one protomer of the homodimer.

      Page 10-12; Is it possible to generate a mutant form of PDXP in which activity is maintained but inhibition is attenuated - an inhibitor-resistant mutant form of PDXP? Can such a mutant be used to assess on-target vs off-target effects of 7,8DHF in cells?

      This is an excellent point, and we agree with the Reviewer that such an approach would provide further evidence for cellular on-target activity of 7,8-DHF. Indeed, the verification of the PDXP-7,8DHF interaction sites has led to the generation of catalytically active, inhibitor-resistant PDXP mutants, such as Tyr146Ala and Glu148Ala (Fig. 3d). However, the biochemical analysis of such mutants in primary hippocampal neurons is a very difficult task.

      Primary hippocampal neurons are derived from pooled, isolated hippocampi of mouse embryos and are subsequently differentiated for 21 days in vitro. The resulting cellular yield is typically low and variable, and the viability (and contamination of the respective cultures with e.g. glial cells) varies from batch to batch. Although such cell preparations are suitable for electrophysiological or immunocytochemical experiments, they are far from ideal for biochemical studies. A meaningful experiment would require the efficient expression of a catalytically active, but inhibitor-resistant PDXP-mutant in PDXP-KO neurons. In parallel, PDXP-KO cells reconstituted with PDXP-WT (at phosphatase activity levels comparable with the PDXP mutant cells) would be needed for comparison. Unfortunately, the generation of (a) sufficient numbers of (b) viable cells that (c) efficiently express (d) functionally comparable levels of PDXP-WT or -mutant for downstream analysis (PLP/PL-levels upon inhibitor treatment) is currently not possible for us.

      Human iPSC-derived (hippocampal) spheroids are at present no alternative, due to the necessity of generating PDXP-KO lines first, and the difficulties with transfecting/transducing them. Such a system would require extensive validation. We have attempted to use SH-SY5Y cells (a metastatic neuroblastoma cell line), but PDXK expression in these cells is modest and they produce too little PLP. We therefore feel that this question is beyond the scope of our current study.

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    1. Author response:

      The following is the authors’ response to the original reviews.

      Public Reviews:

      Reviewer #1 (Public Review): Weaknesses:

      However, the molecular mechanisms leading to NPC dysfunction and the cellular consequences of resulting compartmentalization defects are not as thoroughly explored. Results from complementary key experiments using western blot analysis are less impressive than microscopy data and do not show the same level of reduction. The antibodies recognizing multiple nucleoporins (RL1 and Mab414) could have been used to identify specific nucleoporins that are most affected, while the selection of Nup98 and Nup107 is not well explained.

      The results for the Western blots are less impressive than single nuclei imaging analysis because the protocol for isolating brain nuclei is heterogeneous and includes non-neuronal cells. For this reason, we selected specific nucleoporins for Western blot studies to complement the nonspecificity of pan-NPC antibodies for which the detection is based on the glycosylated moieties. We reasoned that a combination of pan-NPC and select NUPs will give the strongest complementary validation for the mutant phenotype. We have discussed the rationale of NUP selection in discussion. In brief, we selected NUP107 as it is a major component of the Yscaffold complex and is a long-lived subunit of the NPCs (Boehmer et al., 2003; D'Angelo et al., 2009). NUP98 is a mobile nucleoporin and is associated with the central pore, nuclear basket and cytoplasmic filaments. Both NUPs have been implicated in degenerative disorders. (Eftekharzadeh et al., 2018; Wu et al., 2001).

      There is also no clear hypothesis on how Aβ pathology may affect nucleoporin levels and NPC function. All functional NCT experiments are based on reporters or dyes, although one would expect widespread mislocalization of endogenous proteins, likely affecting many cellular pathways.

      We agree that the interaction between Aβ pathology and the NPC remains a work in progress. We decided to rigorously characterize Aβ-mediated deficits in App KI neurons – using different approaches and in more than one animal model – before moving on to explore mechanisms in subsequent studies, which we think deserves more extensive experiments. We seek your understanding and have included in the discussion, possible mechanisms for direct and indirect Aβ-mediated disruption of NPCs. We have also included an additional study to show the disruption in the localization of an endogenous nucleocytoplasmic protein – CRTC1 (cAMP Regulated Transcriptional Coactivator), which is CREB coactivator responsive to neural activity. We observed under basal and also in tetrodotoxin-silenced conditions, there is much higher CRTC1 in the nucleus in App KI neurons relative to WT. This reflects the compromised permeability barrier that we observed via FRAP studies. (Supplementary Figure S15).

      The second part of this manuscript reports that in App KI neurons, disruption in the permeability barrier and nucleocytoplasmic transport may enhance activation of key components of the necrosome complex that include receptor-interacting kinase 3 (RIPK3) and mixed lineage kinase domain1 like (MLKL) protein, resulting in an increase in TNFα-induced necroptosis. While this is of potential interest, it is not well integrated in the study. This potential disease pathway is not shown in the very simple schematic (Fig. 8) and is barely mentioned in the Discussion section, although it would deserve a more thorough examination.

      The study of necroptosis is meant to showcase a single cellular pathway that requires nucleocytoplasmic transport for activation that is compromised and is relevant for AD. We agree there is much more to explore in this pathway but feel is outside the scope of this study. We have included a new illustration that models how damage to NPCs and permeability barrier results in enhanced vulnerability of App KI neurons for necroptosis (Supplemental figure S12).

      Reviewer #2 (Public Review):

      (1) Adding statistics and comparisons between wild-type changes at different times/ages to determine if the nuclear pore changes with time in wild-type neurons. The images show differences in the Nuclear pore in neurons from the wild-type mice, with time in culture and age. However, a rigorous statistical analysis is lacking to address the impact of age/development on NUP function. Although the authors state that nuclear pore transport is reported to be altered in normal brain aging, the authors either did not design their experiments to account for the normal aging mechanisms or overlooked the analysis of their data in this light.

      All our quantifications and statistical comparisons in neuron cocultures are time-matched between WT and App KI neurons, and thus independent of age and maturity of the neurons in culture. The accelerated loss of NUP expression is evident across all time groups. However, we cannot compare across age groups in cultured neurons as the time-matched WT and App KI samples for each time point were processed and imaged separately as neurons matured over time (Fig. 1B-C). An experiment must be done simultaneously across all age groups to compare agerelated effects for WT and App KI neurons in order to account for time-dependent changes. Given the unique challenges of studying “aging” in culture systems, we opted to be more conservative in our interpretation of the results and as such, we were careful to describe the accelerated nuclear pore deficits in App KI neurons relative to time-matched WT expression and speculate its relationship to normal brain aging only in the discussion section. We seek your understanding in this matter. That said, we are able to capture the decline of the NPC in histology of brain sections and observed a statistically significant drop in WT NUP levels in animal sections across age groups where we quantified and compared the raw nuclear intensities from brain sections that were processed and imaged simultaneously across independent experiments (Fig. 1D-E). We have included a statement in the results section to highlight that point.

      (2) Add experiments to assess the contribution of wild-type beta-amyloid accumulation with aging. It was described in 2012 (Guix FX, Wahle T, Vennekens K, Snellinx A, Chávez-Gutiérrez L, Ill-Raga G, Ramos-Fernandez E, Guardia-Laguarta C, Lleó A, Arimon M, Berezovska O, Muñoz FJ, Dotti CG, De Strooper B. 2012. Modification of γ-secretase by nitrosative stress links neuronal ageing to sporadic Alzheimer's disease. EMBO Mol Med 4:660-673, doi:10.1002/emmm.201200243) and 2021 (Burrinha T, Martinsson I, Gomes R, Terrasso AP, Gouras GK, Almeida CG. 2021. Upregulation of APP endocytosis by neuronal aging drives amyloid-dependent synapse loss. J Cell Sci 134. doi:10.1242/jcs.255752), 28 DIV neurons are senescent and accumulate beta-amyloid42. In addition, beta-amyloid 42 accumulates normally in the human brain (Baker-Nigh A, Vahedi S, Davis EG, Weintraub S, Bigio EH, Klein WL, Geula C. 2015. Neuronal amyloid-β accumulation within cholinergic basal forebrain in ageing and Alzheimer's disease. Brain 138:1722-1737. doi:10.1093/brain/awv024), thus, it would be important to determine if it contributes to NUP dysfunction. Unfortunately, the authors tested the Abeta contribution at div14 when wild-type Abeta accumulation was undetected. It would enrich the paper and allow the authors to conclude about normal aging if additional experiments were performed, namely, treating 28Div neurons with DAPT and assessing if NUP is restored.

      Your point is well-noted. We are intrigued at the potential contribution of WT Aβ to the decline in NUPs and NPC but decided to focus on mutant Aβ for this manuscript. We have observed negligible MOAB2-positive Aβ signals in WT neurons across all age groups (data not shown) but acknowledge the potential contributions of aging toward a reduction in NPC function. Instead, we have included a section in the discussion to highlight the aging-related expression of Aβ in WT neurons and a subset of the citations above to indicate a possible link with normal decay of NPCs.

      Reviewer #3 (Public Review):

      Weaknesses:

      (1) It does not consider the relationship of the findings here to other published work on the intraneuronal perinuclear and nuclear accumulation of amyloid in other transgenic mouse models and in humans.

      We have updated the discussion to further elaborate on intraneuronal and perinuclear accumulation of amyloid and how that relates to our NPC phenotype.

      (2) It appears to presume that soluble, secreted Abeta is responsible for the effect rather than the insoluble amyloid fibrils.

      At present, our data cannot fully discount the role of fibrils or other forms of Aβ causing the NPC deficits, but our studies do show that external presence of Aβ (e.g. addition of synthetic oligomeric Aβ or App KI conditioned media) leads to intracellular accumulation and NPC dysfunction. We are aware that endogenous formation of fibrils could also contribute to the NPC dysfunction but refrained from drawing any conclusions without further studies. We have stated this in the discussion.

      (5) It is not clear when the alteration in NUP expression begins in the KI mice as there is no time at which there is no difference between NUP expression in KI and Wt and the earliest time shown is 2 months. If NUP expression is decreased from the earliest times at birth, then this makes the significance of the observation of the association with amyloid pathology less clear.

      The phenotype we observed early in neuronal cultures and in very young animals is subtle and in all our studies, the severity of the NUP phenotypes consistently correlates with elevated intracellular Aβ. We expect that by looking at earlier/younger neurons, the deficits will not be present. However, neurons before DIV7 are immature, and hence we chose not to include those in our observations. In animals, we observed Aβ expression in neuronal soma in young mice (2 mo.), but it is not clear when the deficits manifests and how early to look. While the NUP expression is reduced at an early stage, we speculate in discussion that cellular homeostatic mechanisms can compensate for any compromised nuclear functions and to maintain viability to the point where age-dependent degradation of cellular mechanisms will eventually lead to progression of AD.

      Reviewer #1 (Recommendations For The Authors):

      While the App KI model is suitable for modeling one key aspect of human AD, the use of the term "AD neurons" throughout the manuscript is misleading and should be avoided when describing experiments with "App KI neurons".

      Noted and corrected.

      The claim that Aβ pathology causes NPC dysfunction via reduced nucleoporin protein expression would be stronger if it was better supported by biochemical evidence based on western blots (WBs) to complement the strong microscopy data. The results shown in Figure 2H show a very weak effect compared to microscopy data that does not appear to match the quantification (e.g. Lamin-B1 staining appears reduced after 2 months in WB but not the graph). It is also not clear why nuclear fractionation is required. WB analyses with RL1 and MAB414 (that recognizes multiple FG-Nupsin ICCs and WBs) would help identify Nups that are most affected by Aβ pathology.

      The weaker Western blot results is due to the heterogeneity of the nuclei we isolated from the whole brain which includes non-neuronal cells. We reasoned that isolating the nuclear fraction would give us a cleaner Western blot with fewer background bands as the input lysate is more specific. We also decided to use antibodies against specific NUPs as a way to complement the pan-NPC antibodies that detect glycosylation-enriched epitopes in the nucleus. We reasoned that Western blot identification of individual subunits should provide complementary and stronger evidence for the reduction of NUPs at the peptide level. Overall, we used four different nuclear pore antibodies (RL1, Mab414, NUP98, NUP107) to demonstrate the same mutant phenotype in App KI neurons.

      While the observed NCT defects are discussed in detail, the authors do not present any potential mechanisms to be tested, how intracellular Aβ may impact NPCs. Does Aβ pathology affect nucleoporin expression or stability?

      We have observed the presence of Aβ adjacent to the nuclear membrane and also in the cytosol via high resolution confocal microscopy (Supplementary Figure S14). Our primary goal in this paper is to provide convincing evidence – using different assays and in more than one mouse model – for the reduction of NUPs and lower NPC counts. We feel mechanistic details of Aβdriven NPC disruption requires more extensive experimentation more suitable for subsequent publications.

      The very simple schematic just represents the loss of compartmentalization, without illustrating more complex concepts. It would also be improved by representing the outer and inner nuclear membrane fusing around the NPCs with a much wider perinuclear space between the membranes. As shown now, the nuclear envelope almost looks like a single membrane, while >60kDa proteins are shown at a similar size as the 125MDa NPC.

      We have updated the illustration along with a new schematic for necroptosis (Supplementary Figure S12). We have refrained from giving specific details of the damage to the nuclear pore complex because it is not yet clear the nature of these deficits.

      Misspelling of "Hoechst" as "Hochest" in several figures (Fig. 1, 2, S5, S7).

      Noted and corrected

      Reviewer #2 (Recommendations For The Authors):

      (1) Additional data analysis is required concerning the wild-type controls. The figures show clear differences in the wild-type neurons with time in culture (referring to figures 1A, 1B, 1C; 2A, 2B, 2C, 2D,6E, 6F, 6G, s4) and in different ages (2E, 2F, 2G, 5B, 5C, 5D). The data analysis is shown for knockin vs the time-matched wild-type condition. The effect of time in wild-type neurons/mice should also be analyzed. All the data is suggested to be normalized to 7 DIV/2month wild-type neurons/mice. Were these experiments done with different time points of the same culture? This would be the best to conclude on the effect of time.

      We have noted a decline of NUPs in WT neurons over time in primary cultures and in animal sections. This is not surprising since the NPC and nuclear signaling pathways deteriorate with age (Liu and Hetzer, 2022; Mertens et al., 2015). However, we are unable to do a direct comparison across age groups in cultured neurons as the time-matched WT and App KI neuronal samples for each time point were processed and imaged separately as neurons matured over time (Fig. 1B-C). Hence, we perform statistical analysis for each time-matched WT and App KI neurons. To be clear, multiple independent experiments across different cultures were performed at each time point. Given the inherent challenges of studying aging in culture systems, we opted to be more conservative in our interpretation of the results and as such, we were careful to describe the accelerated nuclear pore deficits in App KI neurons relative to WT levels without inferring the effect of time and speculate its relationship to normal brain aging only in the discussion section. That said, we are able to capture the decline of the nuclear pore complex across different age groups in histology of brain sections where we observed a drop in WT NUP levels in animal sections when we quantified and compared the raw nuclear intensities from brain sections that were processed and imaged simultaneously across independent experiments (Fig. 1D-E).

      Similarly, in Figure 2H, why aren't 2 months compared with 14 months? Why were these ages chosen? 2 months is a young adult, and 14 months is a middle-aged adult. To conclude, aging should have included an age between 18 and 24 months old.

      As with cultures, we isolated age-matched WT and App KI animals separately. We chose 2 to 14 months as they represent young and middle-aged adults as we wanted to showcase the nuclear pore deficits induced by the presence of Aβ without drawing a conclusion on the effects of age or time. That said, we do show histology of brain sections at 18 months of age with individual NUPs. We agree that the temporal aspects of NPC loss in WT neurons is interesting, however, given our experimental parameters, we cannot draw conclusions across different age groups at the moment.

      In Figure 3, statistics between wild type should have been included.

      Similar to the above comment, samples were processed and imaged independently across different groups, hence we cannot compare the datapoints across time.

      (4) Additional quantification: The intensity of MOAB2 at 2 and 13 months should be measured as in Figure 3C.

      Intracellular Aβ signal in 2-mo. old App KI mice is diffuse throughout the soma but in older animals, they are punctate. This observation was similarly described by Lord et al. for tgAPPArcSwe mice (Lord et al., 2006). We have included a confocal micrograph of MOAB-2 immunocytochemistry of a 13-mo. App KI brain section in supplemental figures (Supplementary Figure S13). We found it challenging to differentiate whether the signal is localized intracellularly or as an extracellular aggregate. Regardless, the differences in the quality and uneven distribution of Aβ signal makes any direct comparison of soma intensity across the different age groups harder to interpret in the context of the mutant phenotype.

      (5) Additional experiments: Because primary neurons differentiate, mature, and age with time in culture, they are required to control for the developmental stage of your cultures. Analyzing neuronal markers such as doublecortin for neuronal precursors, MAP2 (or Tau) for dendritic/axonal maturation, synapsin for synaptic maturation, and accumulation of senescenceassociated beta-galactosidase (SA-Beta-Gal) as an aging marker.

      As part of the maintenance of cultures, we stain cultures for axodendritic markers (e.g. MAP2), glial cell distribution (e.g GFAP) and excitatory vs. inhibitory neuronal subpopulations (e.g. Gad65) and synaptic markers (e.g. PSD95) to ensure that growth, survival and viability of neurons are not compromised (data not shown). These markers for maturity are routinely tracked to ensure proper development. We also test the health of the cultures (e.g. apoptosis, necrosis) and to look for cytoskeletal disruption or fragmentation for neuronal processes.

      (6) Additional methods: The quantification of Abeta intensity in Figure 3 is not clearly explained in the methods. Was the intensity measured per field, per cell body?

      The quantifications for Aβ are done for each MAP2-positive cell body and have included that statement in the methods.

      (7) Missing in discussion integration and references to these papers:

      a. Mertens J, Paquola ACM, Ku M, Hatch E, Böhnke L, Ladjevardi S, McGrath S, Campbell B, Lee H, Herdy JR, Gonçalves JT, Toda T, Kim Y, Winkler J, Yao J, Hetzer MW, Gage FH. 2015. Directly Reprogrammed Human Neurons Retain Aging-Associated Transcriptomic Signatures and Reveal Age-Related Nucleocytoplasmic Defects. Cell Stem Cell 17:705-718. doi:10.1016/j.stem.2015.09.001

      b. Guix FX, Wahle T, Vennekens K, Snellinx A, Chávez-Gutiérrez L, Ill-Raga G, Ramos-Fernandez E, Guardia-Laguarta C, Lleó A, Arimon M, Berezovska O, Muñoz FJ, Dotti CG, De Strooper B. 2012. Modification of γ-secretase by nitrosative stress links neuronal ageing to sporadic Alzheimer's disease. EMBO Mol Med 4:660-673. doi:10.1002/emmm.201200243

      c. Burrinha T, Martinsson I, Gomes R, Terrasso AP, Gouras GK, Almeida CG. 2021. Upregulation of APP endocytosis by neuronal aging drives amyloid-dependent synapse loss. J Cell Sci 134. doi:10.1242/jcs.255752),

      Neuronal amyloid-β accumulation within cholinergic basal forebrain in ageing and Alzheimer's disease. Brain 138:1722-1737. doi:10.1093/brain/awv024).

      We have cited a subset of the papers in the discussion section and also expanded the discussion to include the possibility of time-dependent changes for Aβ expression in WT neurons.

      Reviewer #3 (Recommendations For The Authors):

      Specific comments:

      (1) Fig. 1D,E. Fig. 2E, F. This shows the change in NUP IR with time for the APP-KI, but there is also a difference between Wt and KI from the earliest time shown. How early is this difference apparent? From birth? The study should go back to the earliest time possible as the timing of the staining for NUP is important to correlate this with other events of intraneuronal Abeta and amyloid IR. Is the difference between 4 and 7-month ko mice in Figures 2G and 2F statistically significant? If not, perhaps we need a larger N to determine the timing accurately.

      The point is well taken. We have not examined the WT and App KI brains before 2-mo. of age. At this early time point, the extracellular amyloid deposits are very low but intracellular Aβ can be readily detected in neuronal soma. We expect that as the animal ages, the Aβ inside cells will directly impact the NPC mutant phenotype, but it is unclear how early this phenotype manifests in animals and when we should look. To be clear, in less mature neurons (DIV7), the phenotype is very subtle and can only be observed via high resolution microscopy. The differences between 4-7 mo. old animals (Fig. 2F and G) in terms of severity of the reduction cannot be assessed as the age-matched animals for each time point were processed separately, but at each time point, we observed a significant reduction of NPC relative to WT. Nevertheless, in Figure 1E, we performed immunohistochemistry experiments with pan-NPC antibodies and quantified raw intensities to show a difference between 4/7-mo. with 13-mo. old animals.

      (2) Similarly, the increase in Abeta IR is only shown for cultured neurons and only a single time point of 2 months is shown for CA1 in KI brain. Since a major point is that the decrease in NUP IR is correlated with an increase in Abeta IR, a more convincing approach would be to stain for both simultaneously in KI brain, especially since Abeta IR is quite sensitive to conformational variation between APP, Abeta, and aggregated forms and whether they are treated with denaturants for "antigen retrieval". The entire brain hemisphere should be shown as the pathology is not limited to CA1. There are many different Abeta antibodies that are specific to the amyloid state so it should be possible to come up with a set of antibodies and conditions that work for both Abeta and NUP staining.

      The intracellular Aβ signal in 2-mo. old App KI mice is diffuse throughout the soma but in older animals, they are punctate. We have included a confocal micrograph of MOAB-2 immunocytochemistry of a 13-mo. App KI brain section (Supplementary Figure S13). We did not quantify Aβ as it was challenging to differentiate if the signal is intracellular Aβ or amyloid β plaques. Regardless, the differences in the quality and uneven distribution of Aβ signal makes any direct comparison of soma intensity across the different age groups much harder to interpret.

      (3) Figure 3A. The staining with MOAB 2 and 82E1 appears qualitatively different with 82E1 exhibiting larger perinuclear puncta. Both antibodies appear to stain puncta inside the nucleus consistent with previously published reports of intranuclear amyloid IR. If these are flattened images, then 3D Z stacks should be shown to clarify this. Figure 3H shows what appears to be Abeta immunofluorescence quantitation in DAPT-treated cells, but the actual images are apparently not shown. The details of this experiment aren't clear or what antibody is used, but this may not be Abeta as many APP fragments that are not Abeta also react with antibodies like MOAB2.

      Since 82E1 detects a larger epitope (aa1-16 as compared to 1-4 in MOAB-2), it is possible some forms of Aβ are differentially detected inside the cell. MOAB-2 is shown to detect the different forms of Aβ40 and 42, with a stronger selectivity for the latter. However, it is not known to react with APP or APP/CTFs (Youmans et al., 2012). DAPT-treated cells were processed and imaged as with other experiments in figure 3 using MOAB-2 antibodies to detect Aβ. We have included that information in the figure legends.

      The way we image the cell is to collect LSM800 confocal stacks and use IMARIS software to render the nucleus in a 3D object prior to quantifying the intensity or coverage. In this way, we are capturing and quantifying the entire volume of the nucleus and not just a single plane. The majority of signal for MOAB-2 positive Aβ are punctate signals in the cytosol with a subset adjacent to the nucleus (Supplementary Figure 14; Airyscan; single plane). We also detected MOAB-2 signals coming from within the nucleus. The nature of this interaction between Aβ and the nuclear membrane/perinuclear space/nucleoplasm remains unclear.

      (4) P20 L12. "We demonstrate an Aβ-driven loss of NUP expression in hippocampal neurons both in primary cocultures and in AD mouse models" It isn't clear that exogenous or extracellular Abeta drives this in living animals. All the data that demonstrate this is derived from cell culture and things may be very different (eg. Soluble Abeta concentration) in vivo. It is OK to speculate that the same thing happens in vivo, but to say it has been demonstrated in vivo is not correct.

      We have rewritten the opening statement in the paragraph to narrowly define our observations in the context of App KI. We understand the caveats of our studies in primary cultures, but we have done our due diligence to study the phenomenon in different assays, using at least four different nuclear pore antibodies, and in more than one mouse model to show the deficits. We mentioned Aβ-driven loss but did not conclude which Aβ peptide (e.g. 40 vs. 42) or form (e.g. fibrillar) that drives the deficits. However, we have shown some data that oligomers and not monomers as well as extracellular Aβ can accumulate in the soma and trigger NPC deficits. We also state in the discussion that other possible mechanisms of action, mainly via indirect interactions of Aβ with the cell, could result in the deficits.

      (5) P21, L21 "Inhibition of γ-secretase activity prevented cleavage of mutant APP and generation of Aβ, which led to the partial restoration of NUP levels". What the data actually shows is that treatment of the cells with DAPT led to partial restoration of NUP levels. Other studies have shown that DAPT is a gamma secretase inhibitor, so it is reasonable to suspect that the effect to gamma secretase activity, but the substrates and products are assumed rather than measured, so a little caution is a good idea here. For example, CTF alpha is also a substrate, producing P3, which is not considered abeta. The products Abeta and P3 also typically are secreted, where they can be further degraded. Abeta and P3 can also aggregate into amyloid, so whether the effect is really due to Abeta per se as a monomer or Abeta-containing aggregates isn't clear.

      The point is noted. DAPT inhibition of -secretase can impact more than one substate as the complex can cleave multiple substrates. However, we have measured Aβ intensity which increases with DAPT, and while a singular experiment is insufficient to show direct Aβ involvement, we have performed other experiments that show a correlation of Aβ levels inside the soma and the degree of NPC reduction. This includes the direct application of synthetic Aβ42 oligomers. We agree the data cannot fully exclude the involvement of other -secretase cleavage products, but we feel there is strong enough evidence that Aβ – in whatever form - is at least partially if not, the main driver that promote these deficits.

      (6) Discussion. The authors point to "intracellular Abeta" as a potential causative agent for decreased NUP expression and function and cite a number of papers reporting intracellular Abeta. (D'Andrea et al., 2001; Iulita et al., 2014; Kimura et al., 2003; LaFerla et al., 1997; Oddo et al., 2003b; Takahashi et al., 2004; Wirths et al., 2001). Most of these papers report immunoreactivity with Abeta antibodies and argue about whether this is really Abeta40 or 42 and not APP or APP-CTF immunoreactivity. What is missing from these papers and the discussion in this manuscript is that this is not just soluble Abeta, but Abeta amyloid of the same type that ends up in plaques because it has the same immunoreactivity with Abeta amyloid fibril-specific antibodies and even the classical anti-Abeta antibodies 6E10 and 4G8 after antigen retrieval as shown in papers by Pensalfini, et al., 2014 and Lee, et al., 2022 (1,2) who describe the evolution of neuritic plaques and their amyloid core beginning inside neurons. The term "dystrophic neurite" is a misnomer because the structures that resemble "neurites" morphologically are actually autophagic vesicles packed with Abeta and APP immunoreactive material which has the detergent insolubility properties of amyloid plaques. See (1,2). The apparent intranuclear IR of MOAB2 and 82E1 mentioned in comment 3 is relevant here. In Lee et al., the 3D serial section EM reconstruction of one of these neurons with perinuclear and nuclear amyloid shows abundant amyloid fibrils in the remnant of the nucleus. The nuclear envelope appears to break down as evidenced by the redistribution of NeuN immunoreactivity (Pensalfini et al.,) and other nuclear markers and the EM evidence (Lee et al.,). These papers are also improperly cited as evidence for a hypothetical intracellular source for soluble Abeta.

      We have devoted a section of the discussion to highlight some of these findings in the context of Pensalfini et al. 2014 and Lee et al. 2022. Lee et al. tested multiple animal strains to observe the Panthos structures but did not use the App KI mouse model. Since none of our experiments directly tested their observations (e.g. perinuclear fibrils or acidity of autophagic vesicles) in App KI, we decided to take a more conservative approach in our interpretations by framing the NPC deficits without specifying the nature of the intracellular Aβ. We note in discussion that it is entirely possible that App KI animals also show the same Panthos phenotypes and the perinuclear accumulation of Aβ which results in damaged NUPs. To do that, the Panthos phenotype must first be established in App KI mice.

      (7) The authors also cite the work of Ditaranto et al., 2001 and Ji et al., 2002 for Aβ-induced lysosomal leakage from these vesicular structures but overlook the original publications on Abeta-induced lysosomal leakage by Yang et al., (3) who further show that this is correlated with aggregation of Abeta42 upon internalization which also leads to the co-aggregation of APP and APP-CTFs in a detergent-insoluble form (4) and pulse-chase studies demonstrate that metabolically-labeled APP ultimately ends up as insoluble Abeta that have "ragged" N-termini (5). This work seems relevant to the results reported here as the perinuclear amyloid that the authors report here is likely to be the same insoluble, aggregated APP and APP-CTF-containing amyloid as that reported in references 1 and 2.

      We have included the literature references in the discussion, highlighting the possibility of lysosomal leakage contributing to the NPC damage.

      Minor points.

      (1) P2, L28 "permeability barrier facilities passive" should be 'facilitates'.

      (2) P7, L24 "homogenate and grounded for 5 additional strokes" One of the peculiarities of English is that the past tense of grind is ground. Grounded means something else.

      (3) P8, L9 "For synthetic Aβ experiments," Abeta what? 42? 40? It makes a difference and if it is Abeta42, you should be specific in the rest of the text where it is used.

      (4) P11, L14. "To determine if Aβ can trigger changes in nuclear structure and function" It seems a little early to start by presupposing that it is Abeta that triggers changes in nuclear structure and function. It sounds like you are starting out with a bias.

      (5) P11, L16,17 "While Aβ pathology is robustly detected in App KIs" At some point in the manuscript, either here or in the introduction, it would be useful to include a couple of sentences about what the pathology is in these mice along with the timing of the development of the pathology to compare with the results presented here. There are several types of amyloid deposits, "neuritic" plaques, diffuse plaques, and cerebrovascular amyloid. This is important because the early "neuritic" plaques are intraneuronal at least early on before the neuron dies. See (1,2).

      (6) P19, L10. "LMB is an inhibitor or CRM-1 mediated" should be of

      All minor points have been addressed in the manuscript and figures.

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      I wonder on what claim and support that Benny and Miguel's community had few "reading materials". While there seemed o be no mention about how researchers came to this conclusion, I assume that the definition of reading materials is written by common materials by those with he capital and/or are white Americans, This is because is did not consider the various forms of reading materials that could be used and actually be an advantage for students. This would also support how immigrant students without common resources are in fact able to access different tools.

    1. O whither shall I run, or which way flie The sight of this so horrid spectacle Which earst my eyes beheld and yet behold; For dire imagination still persues me. But providence or instinct of nature seems, [ 1545 ] Or reason though disturb'd, and scarce consulted To have guided me aright, I know not how, To thee first reverend Manoa, and to these My Countreymen, whom here I knew remaining, As at some distance from the place of horrour, [ 1550 ] So in the sad event too much concern'd.

      the messenger comes in and he is distragught. he says he has good and bad news. the good news is that all the philistines are dead. bad news- Samson is dead too.

    2. I know your friendly minds and — O what noise! Mercy of Heav'n what hideous noise was that! Horribly loud unlike the former shout. [ 1510 ] Chor. Noise call you it or universal groan As if the whole inhabitation perish'd, Blood, death, and deathful deeds are in that noise, Ruin, destruction at the utmost point. Man. Of ruin indeed methought I heard the noise, [ 1515 ] Oh it continues, they have slain my Son. Chor. Thy Son is rather slaying them, that outcry From slaughter of one foe could not ascend. Man. Some dismal accident it needs must be; What shall we do, stay here or run and see? [ 1520 ] Chor. Best keep together here, lest running thither We unawares run into dangers mouth. This evil on the Philistines is fall'n, From whom could else a general cry be heard? The sufferers then will scarce molest us here, [ 1525 ] From other hands we need not much to fear. What if his eye-sight (for to Israels God Nothing is hard) by miracle restor'd, He now be dealing dole among his foes, And over heaps of slaughter'd walk his way? [ 1530 ] Man. That were a joy presumptuous to be thought. Chor. Yet God hath wrought things as incredible For his people of old; what hinders now? Man. He can I know, but doubt to think he will; Yet Hope would fain subscribe, and tempts Belief. [ 1535 ] A little stay will bring some notice hither. Chor. Of good or bad so great, of bad the sooner; For evil news rides post, while good news baits. And to our wish I see one hither speeding, An Ebrew, as I guess, and of our Tribe. [ 1540 ]

      manoa comments on how loud the noise from the feast is. the chorus hears "blood, death, and deathful deed are in that noise"(1513). Manoa thinks that philistines are killing Samson because of the outward cries but the chorus says that Samson is actually killing the philistines.

    1. Author response:

      The following is the authors’ response to the original reviews.

      We would like to express our gratitude to the reviewers for their suggestions and critiques as we continually strive to enhance the quality of the manuscript. We improved it, by incorporating the reviewers’ suggestions, changing the content and numbering of figures (Figs 1, 3S1 were edited; 4 figures were moved to supplemental materials), and adding several analyses suggested by the reviewers along with accompanying figures (1S2, 1S3) and tables (1 and 2). These analyses include investigating the link between freezing behavior and 44-kHz calls as well as their sound mean power and duration. Also, we have introduced detailed information regarding the experiments performed as well as expanded the description and discussion of the results section. Finally, we added the information about 44-kHz calls reported by another group – which was inspired by our findings.

      Below is the point-by-point response to the reviewers’ comments.

      Reviewer #1 (Public Review):

      Olszyński and colleagues present data showing variability from canonical "aversive calls", typically described as long 22 kHz calls rodents emit in aversive situations. Similarly long but higher-frequency (44 kHz) calls are presented as a distinct call type, including analyses both of their acoustic properties and animals' responses to hearing playback of these calls. While this work adds an intriguing and important reminder, namely that animal behavior is often more variable and complex than perhaps we would like it to be, there is some caution warranted in the interpretation of these data. The authors also do not provide adequate justification for the use of solely male rodents. With several reported sex differences in rat vocal behaviors this means caution should be exercised when generalizing from these findings.

      We fully agree that our data should be interpreted with caution and we followed the Reviewer’s suggestions along these lines (see below). Also, we appreciate the suggestion to explore the prevalence of 44-kHz calls in female subjects, which would indeed represent an important and intriguing extension of our research. However, due to present financial constraints, we can only plan such experiments. To address the comment, we have added the sentence: “Here we are showing introductory evidence that 44-kHz vocalizations are a separate and behaviorally-relevant group of rat ultrasonic calls. These results require further confirmations and additional experiments, also in form of repetition, including research on female rat subjects.”

      It is important to note that the data presented in the current manuscript originates primarily from previously conducted experiments. These earlier experiments employed male subjects only; it was due to established evidence indicating that the female estrus cycle significantly influences ultrasonic vocalization (Matochik et al., 1992). Adhering to controls for the estrus cycle would require a greater number of female subjects than males, which would not only increase animal suffering but also escalate the demands of human labor and financial costs.

      Firstly, the authors argue that the shift to higher-frequency aversive calls is due to an increase in arousal (caused by the animals having received multiple aversive foot shocks towards the end of the protocols). However, it cannot be ruled out that this shift would be due to factors such as the passage of time and increase in fatigue of the animals as they make vocalizations (and other responses) for extended periods of time. In fact the gradual frequency increase reported for 22 kHz calls and the drop in 44 kHz calls the next day in testing is in line with this.

      Answer: We would like to point out that the “increased-arousal” hypothesis, declared in the manuscript, is only a hypothesis – as reflected by the wording used. However, we changed the beginning of the sentence in question from “It could be argued” to “We would like to propose a hypothesis” to emphasize the speculative aspect of the proposed explanation behind the increase of 44-kHz ultrasonic emissions.

      Also, we do agree that other factors could contribute to the increased emission of 44kHz calls. These factors could include: heightened fear, stress/anxiety, annoyance/anger, disgust/boredom, grief/sadness, despair/helplessness, and weariness/fatigue. We are listing these potential factors in the discussion. Also, we added: “It is not possible, at this stage, to determine which factors played a decisive role. Please note that the potential contribution of these factors is not mutually exclusive”. However, we propose a list of arguments supporting the idea that 44-kHz vocalizations communicate an increased negative emotional state. Among these arguments were the conclusions drawn from additional analyses – mostly inspired by the fatigue hypothesis proposed by the Reviewer #1. In particular, we investigated changes in the sound mean power and duration of 22-kHz and 44-kHz calls. Specifically, we showed that the mean power of 44-kHz vocalizations did not change, and was higher than that of 22-kHz vocalizations (Fig. 1S2EF).

      Finally, the Reviewer #1 listed “the gradual frequency increase reported for 22 kHz calls and the drop in 44 kHz calls the next day” as arguments for the fatigue hypothesis. We do not agree that the “increase” should be interpreted as a sign of fatigue [Producing and maintaining higher frequency calls require greater effort from the vocalizer, on which we elaborated in the manuscript], also we are not sure what “drop in 44 kHz calls” the Reviewer is referring to [We assume it refers to less 44-kHz calls during testing vs. training; we suppose that the levels of arousal are lower in the test due to shorter session time and lack of shocks, which additionally contributes to fear extinction].

      Secondly, regarding the analysis where calls were sorted using DBSCAN based on peak frequency and duration, it is not surprising that the calls cluster based on frequency and duration, i.e. the features that are used to define the 44 kHz calls in the first place. Thus presenting this clustering as evidence of them being truly distinct call types comes across as a circular argument.

      Answer: The DBSCAN sorting results were to convey that when changing the clustering ε value, the degree of cluster separation, the 44-kHz vocalizations remained distinct from the 22-kHz and various short-call clusters that merged. In other words: 44-kHz calls remained separate from long 22-kHz, short 22-kHz and 50-kHz vocalizations, which all consolidated into one common cluster. As a result, in this mathematical analysis, 44-kHz vocalizations remained distinct without applying human biases. Additionally, frequency and duration are the two most common features used to define all types of calls (Barker et al., 2010; Silkstone & Brudzynski, 2019a, 2019b; Willey & Spear, 2013). In summary, we did not expect the analysis to isolate out the 44-kHz calls, and we were surprised by this result.

      The sparsity of calls in the 30-40 kHz range (shown in the individual animal panels in Figure 2C) could in theory be explained by some bioacoustics properties of rat vocal cords, without necessarily the calls below and above that range being ethologically distinct.

      Answer: We respectfully disagree with the argument regarding sparsity. It is important to note that, during prolonged fear conditioning experiments, we observed an increased incidence of 44-kHz calls (Fig. 1E-G) of up to >19% (Fig. 1S2AB) of the total ultrasonic vocalizations during specific inter-trial intervals. Also, it is possible that in observed experimental circumstances almost every fifth call could be attributed to the vocal apparatus as an artifact of its functioning (assuming we are interpreting the Reviewer’s argument correctly). While we do not believe this to be the case, we acknowledge the importance of considering such a hypothesis.

      The behavioral response to call playback is intriguing, although again more in line with the hypothesis that these are not a distinct type of call but merely represent expected variation in vocalization parameters. Across the board animals respond rather similarly to hearing 22 kHz calls as they do to hearing 44 kHz calls, with occasional shifts of 44 kHz call responses to an intermediate between appetitive and aversive calls. This does raise interesting questions about how, ethologically, animals may interpret such variation and integrate this interpretation in their responses. However, the categorical approach employed here does not address these questions fully.

      Answer: We are unsure of the Reviewer’s critique in this paragraph and will attempt to address it to the best of our understanding. Our finding of up to >19% of long seemingly aversive, 44-kHz calls, at a frequency in the define appetitive ultrasonic range (usually >32 kHz) is unexpected rather than “expected”. We would agree that aversive call variation is expected, but not in the appetitive frequency range.

      Kindly note the findings by Saito et al. (2019), which claim that frequency band plays the main role in rat ultrasonic perception. It is possible that the higher peak frequency of 44kHz calls may be a strong factor in their perception by rats, which is, however, modified by the longer duration and the lack of modulation.

      Also, from our experience, it is quite challenging to demonstrate different behavioral responses of naïve rats to pre-recorded 22-kHz (aversive) vs. 50-kHz (appetitive) vocalizations. Therefore, to demonstrate a difference in response to two distinct, potentially aversive, calls, i.e., 22-kHz vs. 44-kHz calls, to be even more difficult (as to our knowledge, a comparable experiment between short vs. long 22-kHz ultrasonic vocalizations, has not been done before).

      Therefore, we do not take lightly the surprising and interesting finding that “animals respond rather similarly to hearing 22 kHz calls as they do to hearing 44 kHz calls, with occasional shifts of 44 kHz call responses to an intermediate between appetitive and aversive calls”. We would rather put this description in analogous words: “the rats responded similarly to hearing 44-kHz calls as they did to hearing aversive 22-kHz calls, especially regarding heartrate change, despite the 44-kHz calls occupying the frequency band of appetitive 50-kHz vocalizations” and “other responses to 44-kHz calls were intermediate, they fell between response levels to appetitive vs. aversive playback” – which we added to the Discussion.

      Finally, we acknowledge that our findings do not present a finite and complete picture of the discussed aspects of behavioral responses to the presented ultrasonic stimuli (44-kHz vocalizations). Therefore, we have incorporated the Reviewer’s suggestion in the discussion. The added sentence reads: “Overall, these initial results raise further questions about how, ethologically, animals may interpret the variation in hearing 22-kHz vs. 44-kHz calls and integrate this interpretation in their responses.”

      In sum, rather than describing the 44kHz long calls as a new call type, it may be more accurate to say that sometimes aversive calls can occur at frequencies above 22 kHz. Individual and situational variability in vocalization parameters seems to be expected, much more so than all members of a species strictly adhering to extremely non-variable behavioral outputs.

      Answer: The surprising fact that there are presumably aversive calls that are beyond the commonly applied thresholds, i.e. >32 kHz, while sharing some characteristics with 22-kHz calls, is the main finding of the current publication. Whether they be finally assigned as a new type, subtype, i.e. a separate category or become a supergroup of aversive calls with 22-kHz vocalizations is of secondary importance to be discussed with other researchers of the field of study.

      However, we would argue – by showing a comparison – that 22-kHz calls occur at durations of <300 ms and also >300 ms, and are, usually, referred to in literature as short and long 22-kHz vocalizations, respectively (not introduced with a description that “sometimes 22kHz calls can occur at durations below 300 ms”). These are then regarded and investigated as separate groups or classes usually referred to as two different “types” (e.g., Barker et al., 2010) or “subtypes” (e.g., Brudzynski, 2015). Analogously, 44-kHz vocalizations can also be regarded as a separate type or a subtype of 22-kHz calls. The problem with the latter is that 22-kHz vocalizations are traditionally and predominantly defined by 18–32 kHz frequency bandwidth (Araya et al., 2020; Barroso et al., 2019; Browning et al., 2011; Brudzynski et al., 1993; Hinchcliffe et al., 2022; Willey & Spear, 2013).

      Reviewer #2 (Public Review):

      Olszyński et al. claim that they identified a "new-type" ultrasonic vocalization around 44 kHz that occurs in response to prolonged fear conditioning (using foot-shocks of relatively high intensity, i.e. 1 mA) in rats. Typically, negative 22-kHz calls and positive 50-kHz calls are distinguished in rats, commonly by using a frequency threshold of 30 or 32 kHz. Olszyński et al. now observed so-called "44-kHz" calls in a substantial number of subjects exposed to 10 tone-shock pairings, yet call emission rate was low (according to Fig. 1G around 15%, according to the result text around 7.5%).

      Answer: We are thankful for praising the strengths. Please note Figure 1G referred to 10-trial Wistar rats during delay fear conditioning session in which 44-kHz constituted 14.1% of ultrasonic vocalizations. The 7.5% number in results refers to the total of vocalizations analyzed across all animal groups used in fear conditioning experiments. These values have been updated in the current version of the manuscript. Also, please note – 44-kHz calls constituted up to 19.4% of calls, on average, in one of the ITI during fear conditioning session. However, the prevalence of aversive calls and of 44-kHz vocalizations in particular varied. It varied between individual rats; we added the text: “for n = 3 rats, 44-kHz vocalizations accounted for >95% of all calls during at least one ITI (e.g., 140 of total 142, 222 of 231, and 263 of 265 tallied 44-kHz calls), and in n = 9 rats, 44-kHz vocalizations constituted >50% of calls in more than one ITI.” See also further for the description of the array of experiments analyzed and the prevalence/percentage of 44-kHz calls encountered (Tab. 1, Fig. 1S3).

      Weaknesses: I see a number of major weaknesses.

      While the descriptive approach applied is useful, the findings have only focused importance and scope, given the low prevalence of "44 kHz" calls and limited attempts made to systematically manipulate factors that lead to their emission. In fact, the data presented appear to be derived from reanalyses of previously conducted studies in most cases and the main claims are only partially supported. While reading the manuscript, I got the impression that the data presented here are linked to two or three previously published studies (Olszyński et al., 2020, 2021, 2023). This is important to emphasize for two reasons:

      (1) It is often difficult (if not impossible) to link the reported data to the different experiments conducted before (and the individual experimental conditions therein). While reanalyzing previously collected data can lead to important insight, it is important to describe in a clear and transparent manner what data were obtained in what experiment (and more specifically, in what exact experimental condition) to allow appropriate interpretation of the data. For example, it is said that in the "trace fear conditioning experiment" both single- and grouphoused rats were included, yet I was not able to tell what data were obtained in single- versus group-housed rats. This may sound like a side aspect, however, in my view this is not a side aspect given the fact that ultrasonic vocalizations are used for communication and communication is affected by the social housing conditions.

      Answer: Preparing the current manuscript, we indeed used data collected during fear conditioning experiments which were described previously (Olszyński et al., 2021; Olszyński et al., 2022). Please note, however, that vocalization behavior during the fear conditioning itself was not the main subject of these publications. Our previous publications (Olszyński et al., 2020; Olszyński et al., 2021; Olszyński et al., 2022) present primarily ultrasonic-vocalization data from playback-part of experiments whereas here we analyze recordings obtained during fear conditioning experiments, thus we are analyzing new parts, i.e., not yet analyzed, of previously published studies. Also, we have performed additional experiments.

      In the first version of the current manuscript, we did not attempt to demonstrate exactly which calls were recorded in which conditions as the focus was to demonstrate that 44-kHz calls were emitted in several different fear-conditioning experiments. Also, as the experiments were not performed simultaneously and are results from different experimental situations, we would prefer to not compare these results directly.

      However, in the current version of the manuscript, we have introduced an additional reference system, based on Tab. 1, to more clearly indicate which rats have been employed in each analysis, e.g. the group of “Wistar rats that undergone 10 trials of fear conditioning” are described as “Tab. 1/Exp. 1-3/#2,4,8,13; n = 46”, i.e., these are the rats listed in rows 2, 4, 8, and 13 of Tab. 1.

      We have also tried to unify the analyses, in terms of rats used, as much as possible. Finally, we have also introduced Fig. 1S3 to demonstrate the prevalence of 44-kHz calls in all experiments analyzed with the note that “the experiments were not performed in parallel”.

      Regarding the Reviewer’s concerns about analyzing single- and pair-housed rats together. We have examined ultrasonic vocalizations emitted and freezing behavior in these two groups.

      • Ultrasonic vocalizations; when comparing the number of vocalizations, their duration, peak frequency and latency to first occurrence, equally for all types of calls and divided into types (short 22-kHz, long 22-kHz, 44-kHz, 50-kHz), the only difference was observed in peak frequency in 50-kHz vocalizations (50.7 ± 2.8 kHz for paired vs. 61.8 ± 3.1 kHz for single rats; p = 0.0280, Mann-Whitney). Since 50-kHz calls are not the subject of the current publication, we did not investigate this difference further. Also, this difference was not observed during playback experiments (Olszyński et al., 2020, Tab. 1).

      • Freezing. There were no differences between single- and pair-housed groups in freezing behavior, both in the time before first shock presentation and during fear conditioning training (Mann-Whitney).

      In summary, since the two groups did not differ in relevant ultrasonic features and freezing, we decided to present the results obtained from these rats together. However, we agree with the Reviewer, and it is possible that social housing conditions may in fact affect the emission of 44-kHz vocalizations, which could be a subject of another project – involving, e.g., larger experimental groups observed under hypothesis-oriented and defined conditions.

      (2) In at least two of the previously published manuscripts (Olszyński et al., 2021, 2023), emission of ultrasonic vocalizations was analyzed (Figure S1 in Olszyński et al., 2021, and Fig. 1 in Olszyński et al., 2023). This includes detailed spectrographic analyses covering the frequency range between 20 and 100 kHz, i.e. including the frequency range, where the "newtype" ultrasonic vocalization, now named "44 kHz" call, occurs, as reflected in the examples provided in Fig. 1 of Olszyński et al. (2023). In the materials and methods there, it was said: "USV were assigned to one of three categories: 50-kHz (mean peak frequency, MPF >32 kHz), short 22-kHz (MPF of 18-32 kHz, <0.3 s duration), long 22-kHz (MPF of 18-32 kHz, >0.3 s duration)". Does that mean that the "44 kHz" calls were previously included in the count for 50-kHz calls? Or were 44 kHz calls (intentionally?) left out? What does that mean for the interpretation of the previously published data? What does that mean for the current data set? In my view, there is a lack of transparency here.

      Answer: As mentioned above, we indeed used data collected during fear conditioning experiments which were described previously (Olszyński et al., 2021; Olszyński et al., 2022). However, in these publications, ultrasonic vocalizations emitted during playback experiments were the main subject, while the ultrasonic calls emitted during fear conditioning (performed before the playback) were only analyzed in a preliminary way. As a result, the 44-kHz vocalizations analyzed in the current manuscript were not included in the previous analyses. In particular, in Olszyński et al. (2021), we counted the overall number of ultrasonic vocalizations before fear conditioning session to determine the basal ultrasonic emissions (Fig. S1). Then, our next article (Olszyński et al., 2022), we analyzed again the number of all ultrasonic vocalizations before fear conditioning (Fig. S1) and restricted the analysis of vocalizations during fear conditioning to 22-kHz calls (Tab. S1 and S2).

      Also, we re-reviewed all the data used in our previous playback publications. Overall, 44-kHz calls were extremely rare in playback parts of the experiments. There were no 44-kHz calls in the playback data used in Olszyński et al. (2022) and Olszyński et al. (2020). In Olszyński et al. (2021), one rat produced eight 44-kHz calls. These 44-kHz calls constituted 0.03% of all vocalizations analyzed in the experiment (8/24888) and were included in the total number of calls analyzed (but not in the 50-kHz group), they were not described in further detail in that publication.

      Moreover, whether the newly identified call type is indeed novel is questionable, as also mentioned by the authors in their discussion section. While they wrote in the introduction that "high-pitch (>32 kHz), long and monotonous ultrasonic vocalizations have not yet been described", they wrote in the discussion that "long (or not that long (Biały et al., 2019)), frequency-stable high-pitch vocalizations have been reported before (e.g. Sales, 1979; Shimoju et al., 2020), notably as caused by intense cholinergic stimulation (Brudzynski and Bihari, 1990) or higher shock-dose fear conditioning (Wöhr et al., 2005)" (and I wish to add that to my knowledge this list provided by the authors is incomplete). Therefore, I believe, the strong claims made in abstract ("we are the first to describe a new-type..."), introduction ("have not yet been described"), and results ("new calls") are not justified.

      Answer: We would argue that 44-kHz vocalizations were indeed reported but not described. As far as we are concerned, an in-depth analysis of the properties and experimental circumstance of emission of long, high-frequency calls has not yet been performed. These researchers have observed, at least to a degree, similar calls to the ones we observed – as we mentioned in the discussion section. However, since these reported 44-kHz vocalizations were not fully described, we can only guess that they may be similar to ours. We speculate that perhaps like us, these researchers unknowingly recorded 44-kHz calls in their experiments and may also be able to describe them more extensively when re-analyzing their data as we have done here.

      Possibly, it was difficult to find reports on vocalizations, similar to the 44-kHz calls that we observed, because of the canonical and accepted definitions of ultrasonic vocalization types. Biały et al. (2019) allocated them as a part of 22-kHz group, perhaps because their calls were often of a step variation having both low and high components. Shimoju et al. (2020) grouped them along with 50-kHz vocalizations because they appeared during stroking rats held vertically; this procedure was compared to tickling which usually elicits appetitive calls.

      The Reviewer #2 states there are other publications to complete the list. We are aware of other articles authored by the same team as Shimoju et al. (2020) with different first authors. However, they are reporting similar findings to the cited article. Otherwise, we would gladly cite a more complete list of publications showing atypical, long, monotonous highfrequency vocalizations, similar to those observed in our experiments. Therefore, we would argue that ultrasonic vocalizations which were long, flat, high in frequency, and repeatedly occurring in a defined behavioral situation, have not been reported before. However, concerning the strong claims of novelty of our finding, we toned them down where we found this was warranted.

      In general, the manuscript is not well written/ not well organized, the description of the methods is insufficient, and it is often difficult (if not impossible) to link the reported data to the experiments/ experimental conditions described in the materials and methods section.

      Answer: The description of the methods has been adjusted and expanded. We added the requested link to each particular experiment as a formula “Tab. 1/Exp. nos./# nos.” which shows, each time, which experiments and experimental groups were analyzed. The list of the experiments and groups is found in the Tab. 1.

      For example, I miss a clear presentation of basic information: 1) How many rats emitted "44 kHz" calls (in total, per experiment, and importantly, also per experimental condition, i.e. single- versus group-housed)?

      Answer: We now clearly show which experiments were performed and how many animals were tested in each condition (Tab. 1), while the prevalence of 44-kHz calls amongst experimental conditions and animal groups is shown in Fig. 1S3. Also, we included information regarding the number of animals and treatment of each group of rats when reporting results. For example, we are stating that:

      (1a) “53 of all 84 conditioned Wistar rats (Tab. 1/Exp. 1-3/#2,4,6-8,13, Figs 1B, 1E, 1S1BC) displayed” 44-kHz vocalizations – as a general assessment; these numbers are different from those in the first version of the Ms, when we are mentioning Wistar rats conditioned 6 or 10 times only.

      (1b) “From this group of rats (n = 46), n = 41 (89.1%) emitted long 22-kHz calls, and 32 of them (69.6%) emitted 44-kHz calls” – this time referring only to 10-times conditioned Wistar rats as the biggest group that could be analyzed together (Figs 1F, 1G, 1S2A).

      (1c) “for n = 3 rats, 44-kHz vocalizations accounted for >95% of all calls during at least one ITI (e.g., 140 of total 142, 222 of 231, and 263 of 265 tallied 44-kHz calls), and in n = 9 rats, 44kHz vocalizations constituted >50% of calls in more than one ITI.”

      (2) Out of the ones emitting "44 kHz" calls, what was the prevalence of "44 kHz" calls (relative to 22- and 50-kHz calls, e.g. shown as percentage)?

      Answer: The prevalence of 44-kHz vocalizations in all investigated experiments and groups is shown in Fig. 1S3CD. Also, more information regarding the percentage of 44-kHz calls was demonstrated in Fig. 1S2AB where we calculated the distribution of 44-kHz calls to 22-kHz calls in Wistar rats, in 10-trial fear conditioning, across the length of the session.

      Additionally, the values are listed in the sentence regarding all Wistar rats which underwent 10 trials of fear conditioning: “these vocalizations were less frequent following the first trial (1.2 ± 0.4% of all calls), and increased in subsequent trials, particularly after the 5th (8.8 ± 2.8%), through the 9th (19.4 ± 5.5%, the highest value), and the 10th (15.5 ± 4.9%) trials, where 44-kHz calls gradually replaced 22-kHz vocalizations in some rats (Fig. 1F, 1S2B, Video 1; comp Fig. 1D vs. 1E).”

      (3) How did this ratio differ between experiments and experimental conditions?

      Answer: The prevalence of 44-kHz vocalizations in all experimental conditions is shown in Fig. 1S3. However, the direct comparison of results obtained in different conditions was not the goal of the present work. Also, we would argue, that such direct comparisons of results of different experiments would not be allowed. These experiments were done with different groups of animals, at different times, with different timetables of experimental manipulations.

      However, we are comfortable to state that:

      • There were more 44-kHz vocalizations during fear conditioning training than testing in all fear-conditioned Wistar rats;

      • We observed more 44-kHz vocalizations in Wistar rats compared to SHR.

      (4) Was there a link to freezing? Freezing was apparently analyzed before (Olszyński et al., 2021, 2023) and it would be important to see whether there is a correlation between "44-kHz" calls and freezing. Moreover, it would be important to know what behavior the rats are displaying while such "44-kHz" calls are emitted? (Note: Even not all 22-kHz calls are synced to freezing.) All this could help to substantiate the currently highly speculative claims made in the discussion section ("frequency increases with an increase in arousal" and "it could be argued that our prolonged fear conditioning increased the arousal of the rats with no change in the valence of the aversive stimuli"). Such more detailed analyses are also important to rule out the possibility that the "new-type" ultrasonic vocalization, the so-called "44 kHz" call, is simply associated with movement/ thorax compression.

      Answer: We analyzed freezing behavior and its association with ultrasonic emissions. The emission of 44-kHz vocalizations was associated with freezing. The results are now described and presented in the manuscript, i.e., Tab. 2, its legend and the description in Results: “Freezing during the bins of 22-kHz calls only (p < 0.0001, for both groups) and during 44-kHz calls only bins (p = 0.0003) was higher than during the first 5 min baseline freezing levels of the session. Also, the freezing associated with emissions of 44-kHz calls only was higher than during bins with no ultrasonic vocalizations (p = 0.0353), and it was also 9.9 percentage points higher than during time bins with only long 22-kHz vocalizations, but the difference was not significant (p = 0.1907; all Wilcoxon)” and “To further investigate this potential difference, we measured freezing during the emission of randomly selected single 44-kHz and 22-kHz vocalizations. The minimal freezing behavior detection window was reduced to compensate for the higher resolution of the measurements (3, 5, 10, or 15 video frames were used). There was no difference in freezing during the emission of 44-kHz vs. 22-kHz vocalizations for ≥150ms-long calls (3 frames, p = 0.2054) and for ≥500-ms-long calls (5 frames, p = 0.2404; 10 frames, p = 0.4498; 15 frames, p = 0.7776; all Wilcoxon, Tab. 2B).”

      Please note, that the general observation that "frequency increases with an increase in arousal" is not our claim but a general rule derived from large body of observations and proposed by the others (Briefer et al., 2012); we changed the wording of this statement to: “frequency usually increases with an increase in arousal (Briefer et al., 2012)”.

      The figures currently included are purely descriptive in most cases - and many of them are just examples of individual rats (e.g. majority of Fig. 1, all of Fig. 2 to my understanding, with the exception of the time course, which in case of D is only a subset of rats ("only rats that emitted 44-kHz calls in at least seven ITI are plotted" - is there any rationale for this criterion?)), or, in fact, just representative spectrograms of calls (all of Fig. 3, with the exception of G, all of Fig. 4).

      Answer: Please note, the former figures 2, 4, 6, and 8 have been now moved to supplementary figures 1S1, 2S1, 3S1, and 4S1 – to better organize the presentation of data. Figures 1, 3, 5, 7 are now 1, 2, 3, 4 respectively. In regards to presenting data from individual rats, this was to show the general patterns of ultrasonic-calls distributions observed. Showing the full data set as seen in Fig. 5A (now Fig. 3A) would obscure the readability of the graph without using mathematical clustering techniques such as DBSCAN.

      Concerning the Reviewer’s #2 question regarding the criterion of “minimum seven ITI”, we selected the highest vocalizers by taking animals above the 75th percentile of the number of ITI with 44-kHz calls. However, in the current version of the manuscript, we decided to omit this part of the analysis and the accompanying part of the figure, since it did not provide any additional informative value (apart from employing questionable criterion).

      Moreover, the differences between Fig. 5 and Fig. 6 are not clear to me. It seems Fig. 5B is included three times - what is the benefit of including the same figure three times?

      Answer: We hope that designating Fig. 6 as supplementary to Fig. 5 (now Figs 3S1 and 3, respectively) will make interpreting them more streamlined. Fig. 6A (now Fig. 3S1A) is a more detailed look on information presented in Fig. 5B (now Fig. 3B) with spectrogram images of ultrasonic vocalizations from different areas of the plot. Also, Fig. 3B (former Fig. 5B) was removed from Fig. 3S1B (former Fig. 6B).

      A systematic comparison of experimental conditions is limited to Fig. 7 and Fig. 8, the figures depicting the playback results (which led to the conclusion that "the responses to 44-kHz aversive calls presented from the speaker were either similar to 22-kHz vocalizations or in between responses to 22-kHz and 50-kHz playbacks", although it remains unclear to me why differences were seen b e f o r e the experimental manipulation, i.e. the different playback types in Fig. 8B).

      Answer: There were indeed instances of such before-differences. Such differences were observed in our previous studies (Olszyński et al., 2020, Tabs S9-12; Olszyński et al., 2021, Tabs S7; Olszyński et al., 2022, Tabs S4, S9, S13, S17, S18) and were most likely due to analyzing multiple comparisons. However, we think that the carry-over effect, mentioned by the Reviewer #2 (see below), also played a role.

      Related to that, I miss a clear presentation of relevant methodological aspects: 1) Why were some rats single-housed but not the others?

      Answer: As stated before, data were collected from our previous experiments and the observation of 44-kHz vocalizations in fear conditioning was an emergent discovery as we decided to analyze ultrasonic recordings from fear conditioning procedures. Single-housed animals were part of our experiment comparing fear conditioning and social situation on the perception of ultrasonic playback as described in Olszyński et al. (2020). Aside from this experiment, all other rats were housed in pairs.

      (2) Is the experimental design of the playback study not confounded? It is said that "one group (n = 13) heard 50-kHz appetitive vocalization playback while the other (n = 16) 22-kHz and 44kHz aversive calls". How can one compare "44 kHz" calls to 22- and 50-kHz calls when "44 kHz" calls are presented together with 22-kHz calls but not 50-kHz calls? What about carry-over effects? Hearing one type of call most likely affects the response to the other type of call. It appears likely that rats are a bit more anxious after hearing aversive 22-kHz calls, for example. Therefore, it would not be very surprising to see that the response to "44 kHz" calls is more similar to 22-kHz calls than 50-kHz calls.

      Of note, in case of the other playback experiment it is just said that rats "received appetitive and aversive ultrasonic vocalization playback" but it remains unclear whether "44 kHz" calls are seen as appetitive or aversive. Later it says that "rats were presented with two 10-s-long playback sets of either 22-kHz or 44-kHz calls, followed by one 50-kHz modulated call 10-s set and another two playback sets of either 44-kHz or 22-kHz calls not previously heard" (and wonder what data set was included in the figures and how - pooled?). Again, I am worried about carry-over effects here. This does not seem to be an experimental design that allows to compare the response to the three main call types in an unbiased manner.

      Answer: We apologize for being confounding and brief in our original description of the playback experiments. We wanted to avoid confusion associated with including several additional playback signals (please note some are not related to the current comparisons and include different 50-kHz ultrasonic subtypes and two different subtypes of short 22-kHz calls). We lengthened the description of these playback experiments in the current version.

      In general, including more than one type of ultrasonic calls as playback has a risk of a carry-over effect as well as a habituation effect (the responses become weak). However, it greatly reduces the number of required animals. Finally, regarding the first experiment, we chose 3 playbacks to compare the rats’ reactions, as this was the most conservative choice we thought of.

      We would like to highlight that we wanted to compare specifically the rats’ responses to 22-kHz vs. 44-kHz playback (as well as the effects of playback of different subtypes 50-kHz calls, which is not the subject of the current work). Therefore, we would argue, that the design of both experiments is actually unbiased regarding this key comparison (responses to 22-kHz vs. 44-kHz playback). In both experiments, 22-kHz and 44-kHz playbacks were included in the same sequences of stimuli and counterbalanced regarding their order (i.e., taking into account possible carry-over effects), and presented to the same rats. We regarded the group of rats that heard 50-kHz recordings as a baseline/control, since we know from previous playback studies what reactions to expect from rats exposed to these vocalizations (and 22-kHz playback), while in the second experiment, we reduced the 50-kHz playback to one set in order to minimize possible habituation to multiple playbacks.

      We agree that the design of both experiments does not allow for full comparison of the effects of aversive playbacks to 50-kHz playback. Also, we agree that some carry-over effects could play a role. It was mentioned in the discussion: ”Please factor in potential carryover effects (resulting from hearing playbacks of the same valence in a row) in the differences between responses to 50-kHz vs. 22/44-kHz playbacks, especially, those observed before the signal (Fig. 4AB).” However, we would still argue that the observed lack of difference in heartrate response (Fig. 4A) and the differences regarding the number of 50-kHz calls emitted (e.g., Fig. 4S1F) are void of the constraints raised by the Reviewer #2.

      We acknowledge that our studies do not give a complete picture of 44-kHz ultrasonic perception in relation to other ultrasonic bands and, given the possibility, we would like to perform more in-depth and focused experiments to study this aspect of 44-kHz calls in the future.

      Finally, regarding the second experiment, the description of the rats now includes that they “received 22-kHz, 44-kHz, and 50-kHz ultrasonic vocalization playback”, while the description of the experiment itself includes: “Responses to the pairs of playback sets were averaged”.

      Of note, what exactly is meant by "control rats" in the context of fear conditioning is also not clear to me. One can think of many different controls in a fear conditioning experiment.

      More concrete information is needed.

      Answer: This information was included in our previous publications. However, it was now provided in the method section of the current version of the manuscript. In general, control rats were subjected to the same procedures but did not receive electric shocks.

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      Recommendations For The Authors:

      Reviewer #1 (Recommendations For The Authors):

      Additional considerations:

      The discussion of the "perfect fifth" and the proposition that this observation could be evidence of an evolutionary mechanism underlying it is rather far-fetched, especially for being presented in the Results section (with no supporting non-anecdotal evidence).

      Answer: We agree with the Reviewer #1. The text was modified, the word “evolutionary” was deleted. Instead, we expended on the possible reason for prevalence of the perfect fifth in the current version of the manuscript; we added that the prevalence of the perfect fifth: “could be explained by the observation that all physical objects capable of producing tonal sounds generate harmonic vibrations, the most prominent being the octave, perfect fifth, and major third (Christensen, 1993, discussed in Bowling and Purves, 2015).”

      It is not clear why Sprague-Dawleys were used as "receivers" in the playback experiment, when presumably the calls were recorded from Wistars and SHRs. While this does not critically impact the conclusions, within the species rats should be able to respond appropriately to calls made by rats of different genetic backgrounds, it adds an unnecessary source of variance.

      Answer: Sprague-Dawley rats were used to test another normotensive strain of rats. Regarding the Reviewer’s main point – we beg to differ as we think that it is worth testing playback stimuli in different strains. Diverging the stimuli between different rat strains would add unnecessary variance and it seemed logical to use the same recordings to test effects in different strains. Please note that finally, in spite of this additional variance, the results of both playback experiments are, in general, similar – which may point to a universal effect of 44-kHz playback across rat strains.

      It is pertinent to note that for the trace fear conditioning experiment, the rats had previously been exposed to a vocalization playback experiment. While such a pre-exposure is unlikely to be a very strong stressor, the possibility for it to influence the vocal behaviors of these rats in later experiments cannot be ruled out. It is also not clear what the control rats in this experiment experienced (home cage only?), nor what they were used for in analyses.

      Answer: In the current version of the manuscript, we have described in greater detail all the experiments performed and analyzed. We would like to emphasize that both delay and trace fear conditioning experiments with radiotelemetric transmitters were not performed specifically to elicit any particular response during fear conditioning, rather that our observation of 44-kHz vocalizations emerged as a result of re-examining the audio recordings. As a result, this work summarizes our observations of 44-kHz calls from several different experiments. It is relevant to note, that 44-kHz vocalizations were observed “in rats which were exposed to vocalization playback experiment”, in rats before the playback experiments as well as in naïve rats, without transmitters implemented, trained in fear conditioning (Tab. 1/Exp. 1-3).

      Our main message is that 44-kHz vocalizations were present in several experiments, with different conditions and subjects, while we are not attempting to compare in detail the results across the different experiments. In other words, we agree that pre-exposure to playback (and even more likely – transmitters implantation) could influence, but are not necessary, for 44-kHz ultrasonic emissions by the rats. To demonstrate this, we added a prolonged fear conditioning group with naïve Wistar rats (Exp. 3) to verify the emission of 44kHz calls in the absence of those experimental factors.

      We modified the methods section to clarify the circumstances under which these discoveries were made, such as including the information regarding the control rats in trace fear conditioning. In particular we mention that: “Control rats were subjected to the exact same procedures but did not receive the electric shock at the end of trace periods”.

      For Figure 1A-E, only example call distributions from individual rats are shown. It would perhaps be more informative to see the full data set displayed in this manner, with color/shape codes distinguishing individuals if desired.

      Answer: Please note the Fig. 1S1 shows more examples of ultrasonic call distribution. Showing all the data would make it more difficult to read and interpret. The problem is partly amended in Fig. 3A.

      It is not clear what is presented in Figure 2D vs. E, i.e. panel D is shown only for "selected rats" but the legend does not clarify how and why these rats were selected. It is also not clear why the legend reports p-values for both Friedman and Wilcoxon tests; the latter is appropriate for paired data which seems to be the case when the question is whether the call peak frequency alters across time, but the Friedman assumes non-paired input data.

      Answer: The question refers to the current Fig. 1S2C panel (former Fig. 2E panel) and the former Fig. 2D panel. The latter was not included in the current version of the manuscript, since both reviewers opposed the presentation of “selected rats” only (see above). The full description of the Fig. 1S2C panel is now in the results section together with p-values for Friedman and Wilcoxon test. We used the latter to investigate the difference between the first and the last ITI (selected paired data), while the Friedman to investigate the presence of change within the chain of ten ITI – since it is a suitable test for a difference between two or more paired samples.

      Reviewer #2 (Recommendations For The Authors):

      The weaknesses listed in the public review need to be addressed.

      Answer: We have done our best to address the weaknesses.

      Notes: 1) Page and line numbers would have been useful.

      Answer: We are including a separate manuscript version with page and line numbers.

      .(2) English language needs to be improved.

      Answer: The text has been checked by two native English speakers (one with a scientific background). Both only identified minor changes to improve the text which we applied.

      (3) I am a bit unsure whether the comment about the Star Wars movie (1997) and the Game of Thrones series (2011) is supposed to be a joke.

      Answer: These are indeed two genuine examples of the perfect fifth in human music that we hope are easily recognizable and familiar to readers. Parts of the same examples of the perfect fifth can also heard in the rat voice files provided.

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    1. Author response:

      The following is the authors’ response to the original reviews.

      Public Reviews:

      Reviewer #1 (Public Review):

      Summary:

      During the last decades, extensive studies (mostly neglected by the authors), using in vitro and in vivo models, have elucidated the five-step mechanism of intoxication of botulinum neurotoxins (BoNTs). The binding domain (H chain) of all serotypes of BoNTs binds polysialogangliosides and the luminal domain of a synaptic vesicle protein (which varies among serotypes). When bound to the synaptic membrane of neurons, BoNTs are rapidly internalized by synaptic vesicles (SVs) via endocytosis. Subsequently, the catalytic domain (L chain) translocates, a process triggered by the acidification of these organelles. Following translocation, the disulfide bridge connecting the H chain with the L chain is reduced by the thioredoxin reductase/thioredoxin system, and it is refolded by the chaperone Hsp90 on SV's surface. Once released into the cytosol, the L chains of different serotypes cleave distinct peptide bonds of specific SNARE proteins, thereby disrupting neurotransmission. In this study, Yeo et al. extensively revise the neuronal intoxication model, suggesting that BoNT/A follows a more complex intracellular route than previously thought. The authors propose that upon internalization, BoNT/A-containing endosomes are retro-axonally trafficked to the soma. At the level of the neuronal soma, this serotype then traffics to the endoplasmic reticulum (ER) via the Golgi apparatus. The ER SEC61 translocon complex facilitates the translocation of BoNT/A's LC from the ER lumen into the cytosol, where the thioredoxin reductase/thioredoxin system and HSP complexes release and refold the catalytic L chain. Subsequently, the L chain diffuses and cleaves SNAP25 first in the soma before reaching neurites and synapses. Strengths:

      I appreciate the authors' efforts to confirm that the newly established methods somehow recapitulate aspects of the BoNTs mechanism of action, such as toxin binding and uptake occurring at the level of active synapses. Furthermore, even though I consider the SNAPR approach inadequate, the genome-wide RNAi screen has been well executed and thoroughly analyzed. It includes well-established positive and negative controls, making it a comprehensive resource not only for scientists working in the field of botulinum neurotoxins but also for cell biologists studying endocytosis more broadly. Weaknesses:

      I have several concerns about the authors' main conclusions, primarily due to the lack of essential controls and validation for the newly developed methods used to assess toxin cleavage and trafficking into neurons. Furthermore, there is a significant discrepancy between the proposed intoxication model and existing studies conducted in more physiological settings. In my opinion, the authors have omitted over 20 years of work done in several labs worldwide (Montecucco, Montal, Schiavo, Rummel, Binz, etc.). I want to emphasize that I support changes in biological dogma only when these changes are supported by compelling experimental evidence, which I could not find in the present manuscript.

      We thank the reviewer for his reading and comments and for pointing out the discrepancy between our proposed model and the existing model. However, we respectfully disagree with the phrase of “extensive studies have elucidated the five-steps mechanism of intoxication…”. This sentence and the following imply that the model is well-established and demonstrated. It also highlights how the reviewer is convinced about this previous model.

      We contest this model for theoretical reasons and contest the strength of evidences that support it. We previously included references to previous work showing that the model is also being challenged by others. In light of the reviewer’s comments, we incluced more references in the introduction and we also explicit our main theoretical concern in the introduction:

      “Arguably, the main problem of the model is its failure to propose a thermodynamically consistent explanation for the directional translocation of a polypeptidic chain across a biologial membrane. Other known instances of polypeptide membrane translocation such as the co-translational translocation into the ER indicate that it is an unfavorable process, which consumes significant energy (Alder and Theg 2003). ”

      We also added the following text in the Discussion to address with the reviewer’s concerns: “Our study contradicts the long-established model of BoNT intoxication, which is described in several reviews specifically dedicated to the subject 1–4. In short, these reviews support the notion that BoNT are molecular machines able to mediate their own translocation across membranes; this notion has convinced some cell biologists interested in toxins and retrograde traffic, who describe BoNT mode of translocation in their reviews 5,6.

      But is this notion well supported by data? A careful examination of the primary literature reveals that early studies indeed report that BonTs form ion channels at low pH values 7,8. These studies have been extended by the use of patch-clamp 9,10. These works and others lead to various suppositions on how the toxin forms a channel and translocate the LC 1,11 .

      However, only a single study claims to reconstitute in vitro the translocation of BonT LC across membranes 12. In this paper, the authors report using a system of artificial membranes separating two aqueous compartments. They load the toxin in the cis compartment and measure the protease activity in the trans compartment after incubation. However, when the experimental conditions described are actually converted in terms of molarity, it appears that the cis compartment was loaded at 10e-8M BonT and that the reported translocated protease activity is equivalent to 10e-17 M (Figure 3D, 12). Thus, in this experiment, about 1 LC molecule in 100 millions has crossed the membrane. Such extremely low transfert rate does not tally with the extreme efficiency of intoxication in vivo, even while taking into account the difference between artificial and biological membranes.

      In sum, a careful analysis of the primary literature indicate that while there is ample evidence that BoNTs have the ability to affect membranes and possibly create ion channels, there is actually no credible evidence that these channels mediate translocation of the LC. As mentioned earlier, it is not clear how such a self-translocation mechanism would function thermodynamically. By contrast, our model proposes a mechanism without a thermodynamic problem, is consistent with current knowledge about other protein toxins, such as PE, Shiga and Ricin, and can help explain previously puzzling features of BonT effects. It is worth noting that a similar self-translocation model was proposed for other protein toxins such as Pseudomonas exotoxin, which have similar molecular organisation as BonT (68). However, it has since been demonstrated that the PE toxins require cellular machinery, in particular in the ER, for intoxication (21,69,70).”

      Reviewer #2 (Public Review):

      Summary:

      The study by Yeo and co-authors addresses a long-lasting issue about botulinum neurotoxin (BoNT) intoxication. The current view is that the toxin binds to its receptors at the axon terminus by its HCc domain and is internalized in recycled neuromediator vesicles just after the release of the neuromediators. Then, the HCn domain assists the translocation of the catalytic light chain (LC) of the toxin through the membrane of these endocytic vesicles into the cytosol of the axon terminus. There, the LC cleaves its SNARE substrate and blocks neurosecretion. However, other views involving kinetic aspects of intoxication suggest that the toxin follows the retrograde axonal transport up to the nerve cell body and then back to the nerve terminus before cleaving its substrate.

      In the current study, the authors claim that the BoNT/A (isotype A of BoNT) not only progresses to the cell body but once there, follows the retrograde transport trafficking pathway in a retromer-dependent fashion, through the Golgi apparatus, until reaching the endoplasmic reticulum. Next, the LC dissociates from the HC (a process not studied here) and uses the translocon Sec61 machinery to retro-translocate into the cytosol. Only then, does the LC traffic back to the nerve terminus following the anterograde axonal transport. Once there, LC cleaves its SNARE substrate (SNAP25 in the case of BoTN/A) and blocks neurosecretion.

      To reach their conclusion, Yeo and co-authors use a combination of engineered tools: a cell line able to differentiate into neurons (ReNcell VN), a reporter dual fluorescent protein derived from SNAP25, the substrate of BoNT/A (called SNAPR), the use of either native BoNT/A or a toxin to which three fragment 11 of the reporter fluorescent protein Neon Green (mNG) are fused to the N-terminus of the LC (BoNT/A-mNG11x3), and finally ReNcell VN transfected with mNG1-10 (a protein consisting of the first 10 beta strands of the mNG).

      SNAPR is stably expressed all over in the ReNcell VN. SNAPR is yellow (red and green) when intact and becomes red only when cleaved by BoNT/A LC, the green tip being degraded by the cell. When the LC of BoNT/A-mNG11x3 reaches the cytosol in ReNcell VN transfected by mNG1-10, the complete mNG is reconstituted and emits a green fluorescence.

      In the first experiment, the authors show that the catalytic activity of the LC appears first in the cell body of neurons where SNAPR is cleaved first. This phenomenon starts 24 hours after intoxication and progresses along the axon towards the nerve terminus during an additional 24 hours. In a second experiment, the authors intoxicate the ReNcell VN transfected by mNG1-10 using the BoNT/A-mNG11x3. The fluorescence appears also first in the soma of neurons, then diffuses in the neurites in 48 hours. The conclusion of these two experiments is that translocation occurs first in the cell body and that the LC diffuses in the cytosol of the axon in an anterograde fashion.

      In the second part of the study, the authors perform a siRNA screen to identify regulators of BoNT/A intoxication. Their aim is to identify genes involved in intracellular trafficking of the toxin and translocation of the LC. Interestingly, they found positive and negative regulators of intoxication. Regulators could be regrouped according to the sequential events of intoxication.

      Genes affecting binding to the cell-surface receptor (SV2) and internalization. Genes involved in intracellular trafficking. Genes involved in translocation such as reduction of the disulfide bond linking the LC to the HC and refolding in the cytosol. Genes involved in signaling such as tyrosine kinases and phosphatases. All these groups of genes may be consistent with the current view of BoNT intoxication within the nerve terminus. However, two sets of genes were particularly significant to reach the main conclusion of the work and definitely constitute an original finding important to the field. One set of genes consists of those of the retromer, and the other relates to the Sec61 translocon. This should indicate that once endocytosed, the BoNT traffics from the endosomes to the Golgi apparatus, and then to the ER. Ultimately, the LC should translocate from the ER lumen to the cytosol using the Sec61 translocon. The authors further control that the SV2 receptor for the BoNT/A traffics along the axon in a retromer-dependent fashion and that BoNT/A-mNG11x3 traverses the Golgi apparatus by fusing the mNG1-10 to a Golgi resident protein.

      Strengths:

      The findings in this work are convincing. The experiments are carefully done and are properly controlled. In the first part of the study, both the activity of the LC is monitored together with the physical presence of the toxin. In the second part of the work, the most relevant genes that came out of the siRNA screen are checked individually in the ReNcell VN / BoNT/A reporter system to confirm their role in BoNT/A trafficking and retro-translocation.

      These findings are important to the fields of toxinology and medical treatment of neuromuscular diseases by BoNTs. They may explain some aspects of intoxication such as slow symptom onset, aggravation, and appearance of central effects.

      Weaknesses:

      The findings antagonize the current view of the intoxication pathway that is sustained by a vast amount of observations. The findings are certainly valid, but their generalization as the sole mechanism of BoNT intoxication should be tempered. These observations are restricted to one particular neuronal model and engineered protein tools. Other models such as isolated nerve/muscle preparations display nerve terminus paralysis within minutes rather than days. Also, the tetanus neurotoxin (TeNT), whose mechanism of action involving axonal transport to the posterior ganglia in the spinal cord is well described, takes between 5 and 15 days. It is thus possible that different intoxication mechanisms co-exist for BoNTs or even vary depending on the type of neurons.

      Although the siRNA experiments are convincing, it would be nice to reach the same observations with drugs affecting the endocytic to Golgi to ER transport (such as Retro-2, golgicide or brefeldin A) and the Sec61 retrotranslocation (such as mycolactone). Then, it would be nice to check other neuronal systems for the same observations.

      We thank the reviewer for the careful reading and comments of our manuscript. The reference to “a vast amount of observation” is a similar argument to the Reviewer 1 and used to suggest that our study may not be applicable as a general mechanism.

      We respectfully disagree as described above and posit on the contrary that the model we propose is much more likely to be general than the model presented in current reviews for the several reasons cited (see added text in Introduction and Discussion). While we agree that more work is needed to confirm the proposed mechanisms of BonT translocation in other models, these experiments fall outside the perimeter of our study.

      The fact that nerve/muscle preparations of BonT activity have relatively fast kinetics does not pose a contradiction to our model. Our model reveals primarily the requirement for trafficking to the ER membranes. This ER targeting requires trafficking through the Golgi complex, in turn explaining the requirement for trafficking to the soma of neurons in the experimental system we used. However, in neuronal cells in vivo, Golgi bodies can be found along the lenght of the axon, thus BonT may not always require trafficking to the soma of the affected cells. The time required for intoxication could thus vary greatly depending on the neuronal structural organisation.

      TenT is proposed to transfer from excitatory neurons into inhibitory neurons before exerting its action. While the detailed mechanism of this fascinating mechanism remain to be explored, it clearly falls beyond the purview of this manuscript.

      Regarding the use of drugs, we agree that it would be a nice addition; unfortunately we are unable to perform such experiments at this stage. Setting up a large scale siRNA screen for BonT mechanism of action is challenging as it requires a special facility with controlled access and police authorisation (in Singapore) given the high toxicity of this molecule. Unfortunately, the authorisations have now lapsed.

      Reviewer #3 (Public Review): Summary:

      The manuscript by Yao et al. investigates the intracellular trafficking of Botulinum neurotoxin A (BoNT/A), a potent toxin used in clinical and cosmetic applications. Contrary to the prevailing understanding of BoNT/A translocation into the cytosol, the study suggests a retrograde migration from the synapse to the soma-localized Golgi in neurons. Using a genome-wide siRNA screen in genetically engineered neurons, the researchers identified over three hundred genes involved in this process. The study employs organelle-specific split-mNG complementation, revealing that BoNT/A traffics through the Golgi in a retromer-dependent manner before moving to the endoplasmic reticulum (ER). The Sec61 complex is implicated in the retro-translocation of BoNT/A from the ER to the cytosol. Overall, the research challenges the conventional model of BoNT/A translocation, uncovering a complex route from synapse to cytosol for efficient intoxication. The findings are based on a comprehensive approach, including the introduction of a fluorescent reporter for BoNT/A catalytic activity and genetic manipulations in neuronal cell lines. The conclusions highlight the importance of retrograde trafficking and the involvement of specific genes and cellular processes in BoNT/A intoxication.

      Strengths:

      The major part of the experiments are convincing. They are well-controlled and the interpretation of their results is balanced and sensitive.

      Weaknesses:

      To my opinion, the main weakness of the paper is in the interpretation of the data equating loss of tGFP signal (when using the Red SNAPR assay) with proteolytic cleavage by the toxin. Indeed, the first step for loss of tGFP signal by degradation of the cleaved part is the actual cleavage. However, this needs to be degraded (by the proteasome, I presume), a process that could in principle be affected (in speed or extent) by the toxin.

      We thank the reviewer for his comments and careful reading of our manuscript.

      Regarding the read-out of the assay, we agree that the assay could be sensitive to alteration in the protein degradation pathway. We have added the following sentence in the Discussion to take it into account:

      “As noted by one reviewer, the assay may be sensitive to perturbation in the general rate of protein degradation, a consideration to keep in mind when evaluating the results of large scale screens.”

      While this may be valid for some hits in the general list, it is important to note that the main hits have been shown to affect toxin trafficking by an independent, orthogonal assay based on the split GFP reconstitution.

      Recommendations to authors:

      Reviewer #1 (Recommendations For The Authors):

      (1) To assess the activity of BoNT/A in neurons, Yeo et al. have generated a neuronal stem line referred to as SNAPR. This cell line stably expresses a chimeric reporter protein that consists of SNAP25 flanked at its N-terminus with a tagRFPT and at its C-terminus with a tagGFP. After exposure to BoNT/A, SNAP25 is cleaved and, the C-terminal tGFP-containing moiety is rapidly degraded. I have many doubts about the validity of the described method. Indeed, BoNT/A activity is analysed in an indirect way by quantifying the degradation of the GFP moiety generated after toxin cleavage (Fig. 2). In this regard, the authors should consider that their approach is dependent, not only on the toxin's metalloprotease activity but also on the functionality of the proteasome in neurons. Therefore, considering the current dataset, it is impossible to rule out the possibility that the progression of GFP signal loss from the soma to the neurite terminals may be attributed to the different proteasome activity in these compartments. Is it conceivable that the GFP fragment generated upon toxin cleavage degrades more rapidly in the soma in comparison to axonal terminals? This alternative explanation could challenge the conclusion drawn in Fig. 2.

      The reviewer’s alternative explanation disregards the experiments performed with the split-GFP complementation approach, which indicate translocation in the soma first. The split GFP reporter is not dependent on the proteasome activity. It also disregard the genetic data implicating many genes involved in membrane retrograde traffic, which are also not consistent with the hypothesis of the reviewer. These genes depletions not only affect SNAPR degradation but also BoNT/A-mNG11 trafficking: thus, their effect cannot be attributed to an completely hypothetical spatial heterogeneous distribution of the proteasome.

      For this reason, I strongly suggest using a more physiological approach that does not depend on proteasomal degradation or on the expression of the sensor in neurons. The authors should consider performing a time course experiment following intoxication and staining BoNT/A-cleaved SNAP25 by using specific antibodies (see Antonucci F. et al., Journal of Neuroscience, 2008 or Rheaume C. et al., Toxins 2015).

      For the above reason, we do not agree with the pressing importance of confirming by a third method using specific antibodies; especially considering that BonT is very difficult to detect in cells when incubated at physiological levels. By the way, the cited paper, by Antonucci F; et al. documents long distance retrograde traffic of BonT/A, which is in line with our data.

      An alternative approach could involve the use of microfluidic devices that physically separate axons from cell bodies. Such a separation will allow us to test the authors' primary conclusion that SNAP25 is initially cleaved in the soma. The suggested experiments will also rule out potential overexpression artifacts that could influence the authors' conclusions when using the newly developed SNAPR approach. Without these additional experiments, the authors' main conclusion that SNAP25 is cleaved first in the neuronal soma rather than at the nerve terminal is inadequate.

      As discussed above we disagree about the doubts raised by the reviewer: we present three types of evidences (SNAPR, split GFP and genetic hits) and they all point in the same direction. Thus, we respectfully doubt that a fourth approach would convince this reviewer. To note, we have attempted to use microfluidics devices as suggested by the reviewer, however, the Ren-VM neurons were not able to extend axons long enough across the device.

      (2) To detect BoNT/A translocation into the cytosol, the authors have used a complementation assay by intoxicating ReNcell VM cell expressing a cytosolic HA-tagged split monomeric NeonGreen (Cyt-mNG1-10) with an engineered BoNT/A, where the catalytic domain (LC) was fused to mNG1-11. When drawing conclusions regarding the detection of cytosolic LC in the neuronal soma, the authors should highlight the limitations of this assay and explicitly describe them to the readers. Firstly, the authors need to investigate whether the addition of mNG1-11 to the LC affects the translocation process itself (by comparing with a WT, not tagged, LC).

      Additionally, from the data shown in Fig. 2C, it is evident that the Cyt-mNG1-10 is predominantly expressed in the cytosol and less detected in neurites. This raises the question of whether there might be a bias for the cell soma in this assay. To address this important concern, I suggest quantifying MFI per cell (Fig. 2D) taking into consideration the amount of HA-tagged Cyt-mNG1-10. Furthermore, I strongly suggest targeting mNG1-10 to synapses and performing a similar time course experiment to observe when LC translocation occurs at nerve terminals. Alternative experiments, to prove that BoNT/A requires retrograde trafficking before it can translocate, may be done to repeat the experiments shown in Fig. 2D in the presence of inhibitors (or by KD some of the hits identified as microtubule stabilizers) that should interfere with BoNT/A trafficking to the neuronal somata. Without these additional experiments, the authors' main conclusion that the BoNT/A catalytic domain is first detected in the neuronal soma rather than at the nerve terminal is very preliminary.

      Similarly as for the SNAPR assay, the reviewer is raising the level of doubt to very high levels. We respect his thoroughness and eagerness to question the new model. However, we note that a similar level of scrutiny does not apply to the prevalent competitive model. Indeed, the data supporting the self-translocation model is based on a single in vitro experiment published in one panel as we have explain din the discussion (see above).

      (3) In the genome-wide RNAi screening, rather than solely assessing SV2 surface levels, it would have been beneficial to directly investigate BoNT/A binding to the neuronal membrane. For instance, this could have been achieved by using a GFP-tagged HC domain of BoNT/A. At present, the authors cannot exclude the possibility that among the 135 hits that did not affect SV2 levels, some might still inhibit BoNT/A binding to the neuronal surface. These concerns, already exemplified by B4CALT4 (which is known to be involved in the synthesis of GT1b), should be explicitly addressed in the main text.

      We agree with the reviewer that perturbation of binding of BonT is possible. We added the following text:

      “Network analysis reveals regulators of signaling, membrane trafficking and thioreductase redox state involved in BoNT/A intoxication

      Among the positive regulators of the screen, 135 hits did not influence significantly surface SV2 levels and are thus likely to function in post-endocytic processes (Supplementary Table 2). However, we cannot formerly exclude that they could affect binding of BonT to the cell surface independently of SV2.”

      (4) The authors should clearly state which reagents they have tried to use in order to explain the challenges they faced when directly testing the trafficking of BoNT/A. The accumulation of Dendra-SV2 bulbous structures at the neurite tips in VPS35-depleted cells could be interpreted as a sign of neuronal stress/death. Have the authors investigated other proteins that do not undergo retro-axonal trafficking in a retromer-dependent manner? This control is essential. In this regard, the use of a GFP-tagged HC domain of BoNT/A could prove to be quite helpful.

      We tried multiple commercially available antibodies against BonT but we could not get a very good signal. The postdoc in charge of this project has now gone to greener pastures and we are not in the capacity to provide the details corresponding to these antibodies. We di dnot observe significant cell death after VPS-35 knockdown at the time of the experiment, however longe rterm treatment might result in toxicity indeed.

      (5) Considering my concerns related to the SNAPR system and the complementation assay to study SNAP25 cleavage and BoNT/A trafficking, I suggest validating some of their major hits (ex. VPS34 and Sec61) by performing WB or IF analysis to examine the cleavage of endogenous SNAP25. Furthermore, the authors should test VPS35 depletion in the context of the experiments performed in Fig. 6G-H, by validating that this protein is essential for BoNT/A retrograde trafficking.

      The reviewer concerns are well noted but as discussed above, the two systems we used are completely orthogonal. Thus, for the reviewer’s concerns to be valid, it would have to be two completely independent artefacts giving rise to the same result. The alternative explanation is that BonT/A translocates in the soma. The Ockham razor principle dictates that the simplest explanation is the likeliest.

      (6) The introduction and the discussion section of this paper completely disregard more than 20 years of research conducted by several labs worldwide (Montecucco, Montal, Schiavo, Rummel, Binz, etc). The authors should make an effort to contextualize their data within the framework of these studies and address the significant discrepancies between their proposed intoxication model and existing research that clearly demonstrates BoNTs translocating upon the endocytic retrieval of SVs at presynaptic sites. Nevertheless, even assuming that the model proposed by the authors is accurate, numerous questions emerge. One such question is: How can the authors explain the exceptional toxicity of botulinum neurotoxin in an ex vivo neuromuscular junction preparation devoid of neuronal cell bodies (see Cesare Montecucco and Andreas Rummel's seminal studies)?

      Please see above in the answer to public reviews.

      (7) Scale bars should be added to all representative pictures.

      This has been done. Thank you for the thorough reading of our manuscript.

      Reviewer #2(Recommendations For The Authors):*

      (1) The title overstates the results. It may be indicated "in differenciated ReNcell VM".

      Title changed to: “Botulinum toxin intoxication requires retrograde transport and membrane translocation at the ER in RenVM neurons”

      (2) In the provided manuscript there are two Figure 2 and no Figure 3. This made the reading and understanding extremely difficult and should be corrected. As a result, the Figure legends do not fit the numbering. There are also discrepancies between some Figure panels (A, B, C, etc), the text, and the Legends. All this needs to be carefully checked.

      We apologize for the confusion as the manuscript as followed multiple rounds of revisions. We have carefully verified labels and legends.

      (3) The BoNT/A-mNG11x3 may introduce some bias that could be discussed. Would these additional peptides block LC translocation from synaptic vesicles in the nerve termini? In addition, the mNG peptides that are unfolded before complementation may direct LC towards Sec61. These aspects should be discussed.

      The comment would be valid if BoNT/A-mNG11x3 was the only approach used in the paper, however the SNAPR reporter is used with native BonT and shows data consistent with the split GFP approach.

      (4) In the Figure about SV2 (Fig 3 or 4): The authors did not locate SV2. The cells seem not to have the same differentiated phenotype as in Figure 1 and Figure 2/3A.

      We apologized above for the mislabeling. It is not clear what is the question here.

      (5) The authors should check whether BoNT/A wt cleaves the endogeneous SNAP25 by western blot for instance in the original ReNcell VN before SNAPR engineering. This should be compared with wt SNAP25 cleavage by the BoNT/A-LC-mNG.

      It is likely that BoNT/A-LC-mNG11 should have similar activity as it is only adding a small peptide at the end of the LC. At any rate, it is not clear why this is so important since both molecules translocate in the cytosol, with the same kinetics and in the same subcellular locale.

      (6) Perhaps I did not understand. How can the authors exclude that what is observed is the kinetic overproduction of the reporter substrate SNAPR?

      The authors could use SLO toxin (PNAS 98, 3185-3190, 2001) to permeabilize the cells all along their body and axon to introduce BoNT/A or LC (wt) and observe synchronized SNAPR cleavage throughout the cells.

      The concept mentioned here is not very clear to us. The reviewer is proposing that the SNAPR is produced much more efficiently at the tips of the neurites and thus its cleavage takes longer to be detected and is apparent first in the soma?? With all due respect, this is a strange hypothesis, at odds with what we know of protein dynamics in the neurons (i.e. most proteins are largely made in the soma and transported or diffuse into the neurites).

      Again, the two orthogonal approaches: split GFP and SNAPR reporter use different constructs and methods, yet converge on similar results. Perhaps, the incredulity of the reviewer might be more productively directed at the current data “demonstrating” the translocation of LC in the synaptic button?

      (7) The authors could also use an essay on neurotransmitter release monitoring by electrophysiology measurements to check the functional consequences of the kinetic diffusion of LC activity along the axon. Can the authors exclude that some toxin molecules translocate from the endocytic vesicles and block neurotransmission within minutes or a few hours?

      It is well established that inhibition of neurotransmission does not occur within minutes in vivo and in vitro, but rather within hours or even days. This kinetic delay is experienced by many patients and is one of the key argument against the current model of self-translocation at the synaptic vesicle level.

      Minor remarks

      Thank you for pointing out all these.

      (1) Please check typos. There are many. Check space before the parenthesis, between numbers and h (hours), reference style etc.

      Thank you. We have reviewed the text and try to eliminate all these instances.

      (2) Line 90: The C of HC should be capitalized.

      Fixed

      (3) Line 107: add space between "neurons(Donato".

      Fixed

      (4) Line 109: space "72 h".

      Fixed

      (5) Line 115: a word is missing ? ...to show retro-axonal... ? Please clarify this sentence.

      Fixed

      (6) Figure 1E: does nm refer to nM (nanomolar)? Please correct. No mention of panel F.

      Fixed

      (7) Line 161: do you mean ~16 µm/h? Please correct.

      Fixed

      (8) Line 168, words are missing.

      Fixed, thank you

      We verified that Cyt-mNG1-10 was expressed using the HA tag, the expression was homogeneously distributed in differentiated neurons and we observed no GFP signal (Figure2C).

      (9) Line 171: Isn't mNG 11 the eleventh beta strand of the neon green fluorescent protein, not alpha helix? Otherwise, can the authors confirm it acquires the shape of an alpha helix? Same at line 326.

      We have corrected the mistake; thanks for pointing it out.

      (10) Figure 2 is doubled. The legend of Fig 2 refers to Figure 3. There is no legend for Figure 2. Then, some figures are shifted in their numbering.

      Fixed

      (11) The fluorescence in the cell body must appear before the fluorescence in the axon due to higher volume. Please discuss.

      The fluorescence progresses in the neurites extensions in a centripetal fashion. The volume of the neurite near the cell body is not significantly different from the end of the neurite. Thus the fluorescence data is consistent with translocation in soma and not with an effect due to higher volume in the soma.

      (12) Figure 2D, right: the term intoxication is improper for this experiment. Rather, it is the presence of the BoNT/A-mNG11 that is detected. I believe the authors should be particularly careful about the use of terms: intoxication means blockade of neurosecretion, SNAPR cleavage means activity etc.

      While the reviewer is correct that it is the presence of BoNT/A-mNG11 that is detected, it remains that it is an active toxin, so the neurons are effectively intoxicated; as they are when we use the wild type toxin. We do not imply that we are measuring intoxication, but simply that the neurons are put into contact with a toxin.

      (13) Line 196: Should we read TXNRD1 is required for BoNT/A LC translocation? TXNRD1 in the current model of translocation is located in the cytoplasm and is supposed to play a role in the cleavage of the disulfide bond linking LC to HC. In the model proposed by this study, LC is translocated through the Sec61 translocon. In this case, I would assume that the protein disulfide isomerase (PDI) in the endoplasmic reticulum would reduce the LC-HC disulfide bond. In that case, TXNRD1 would not be required anymore. Please discuss.

      Why should we assume that a PDI is involved in the reduction of the LC-HC disulfide bond? In our previous studies on A-B toxins (PE and Ricin), different reduction systems seemed to be at play. There is no conceptual imperative to assume reduction in the ER because the Sec61 translocon is implicated. Reduction might occur on the cytosolic side by TXNRD1 or the effect of this reductase could be indirect.

      (14) The legend of Figure 4 (in principle Figure 5?) is not matching with the panels and panel entries are missing (Figure 4F in particular).

      Fixed

      (15) Figure 6 panels E and H, please match colors with legend (grey and another color).

      Not clear

      (16) Please indicate BoNT/A construct concentrations in all Figure legends.

      Done

      (17) Line 416: isn't SV2 also involved in epilepsy?

      Yes it is.

      (18) Line 433: as above, shouldn't the disulfide bond linking LC to HC be cleaved by PDI in the ER in this model (as for other translocating bacterial toxins) rather than by thioredoxin reductases in the cytoplasm? Please discuss.

      See above

      (19) Identification of vATPase in the screen could be consistent with the endocytic vesicle acidification model of translocation.

      Yes

      (20) Did the authors add KCl in screening controls without toxins? This should be detailed in the Materials and Methods. Could there be a KCl effect on the cells? KCl exposure for 48 hours may be highly stressful for cells. The KCl exposure should last only several minutes for toxin entry.

      We did not observe significant cell detah with the cell culture conditions used. Cell viability was controlled at multiple stages using nuclei number for instance

      Reviewer #3 (Recommendations For The Authors):

      Main comments: (1) In Figure 1B: could you devise a means to prevent proteosomal degradation of the tGFP cleaved part to assess whether this is formed?

      We have also used a FRET assay after tintoxication and obtained similar results

      (2) Line 152: Where it reads "was not surprising", maybe I missed something, but to me, this is indeed surprising. If the toxin is rapidly internalized and translocated (therefore, it is able to cleave SNAP25), the fact that tGFP requires 48 hours to be degraded seems surprising to me. Or does it mean that the toxin also slows down the degradation of the tGFP fragment? So, how can you differentiate between the effect being on cleavage of the fragment or in tGFP degradation?

      The reviewer is correct, the “not” was a typo due to re-writting; the long delay between adding the toxin and observing cleavage was suprising indeed. Our interpretation is that it is trafficking that takes time, indeed, the split-GFP data kinetics indicates that the toxin takes about 48h to fill up the entire cytosol (Fig. 2D).

      (3) Regarding the effect of Sec61G knockdown, is it possible that the observed effects are indirect and not due to the translocon being directly responsible for translocating the protein?

      As discussed in the last part of the results,Sec61 knock-down results in block of intoxication, but does not prevent BonT from reaching the lumen of the ER (Figure 6G,H). Thus, Sec61 is “is instrumental to the translocation of BoNT/A LC into the neuronal cytosol at the soma.”

      Minor comments:

      (1) Fig. 3E: in the legend I think one of the NT3+ should be NT3-.

      Yes, thanks for spotting it

      (2) Would you consider adding Figure S4 as a main figure?

      Thanks for the suggestion

      (3) Please, check that all microscopy image panels have scale bars.

      Done

      (4) Figure 6B (bottom panes): why does it seem that there is a lot of mNeonGreen positive signal in regions that are not positive for HA? Shouldn't complementation keep HA in the complemented protein.

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    3. Tal educación simplifica la 'ciencia'simplificando a sus participantes: en primer lugar se define undominio de investigación. A continuación, el dominio se separa delresto de la historia (la física, por ejemplo, se separa de la meta-física y de la teología) y recibe una 'lógica' propia. Después, unentrenamiento completo en esa lógica condicionada a quienes tra-bajan en dicho dominio.

      Esto hace eco de lo que se planteaba en el mismo epígrafe. Se plantea un orden y ese orden es separador, se vuelve deficiente o por lo menos muestra la deficiencia de comprensión de un mundo a partir de paradigmas que colindan unos con otros y que no dialogan con otros. Para Feyerabend parece ser importante una idea de diálogo y tensión entre disciplinas, abrir a pensar en grandes campos para una mejor investigación científica.

    4. Unanarquista se parece a un espía que entra en el juego de la Razónpara socavar la autoridad de la Razón (Verdad, Honestidad,Justicia, etcétera)^''.'^ Así es como el profesor Ernán McMullin interpretó algunos de mis primerosescritos. Ver 'A Taxonomy of the Relations between History and Philosophy ofScience', Minnesota Studies 5, Minneapolis, 1971.2" 'Dada', dice Hans Richter en Dada: Arte y Anti-Arte, 'no sólo no tenia ningúnprograma, sino que se oponía a todos los programas'. Esto no excluye una hábildefensa de programas para mostrar el carácter quimérico de cualquier defensa,incluida la defensa 'racional'. Cf. además capítulo 16, texto correspondiente a notas249, 250, 251. (De la misma forma, un actor o dramaturgo podría reproducir todaslas manifestaciones externas de un 'amor profundo' para desenmascarar la ideamisma de 'amor profundo'. Ejemplo: Pirandello). Espero que estas observacionesmitiguen el temor de la Srta. Koertge acerca de que yo intento dar origen a otromovimiento, en el que los slogans 'proliferación' o 'todo sirve' sustituyen losslogans del falsacionismo, inductivismo o programismo de investigación.

      Idea clave: el anarquismo como una actitud, una disposición, que interroga a la Razón, a sus metodología y saberes, para encontrar modos otros de situarse y comprender la realidad.

    5. Hay incluso circunstancias —y ocurren con bastante frecuencia—en las que la arf(umentación pierde su prometedor aspecto o seconvierte en un obstáculo para el progreso. Nadie estaría dispuestoa afirmar que la educación de los niños consiste exclusivamente enuna materia de argumentación (aunque la argumentación puedeentrar en ella, y debería entrar en mayor medida de lo que eshabitual), y casi todos coinciden ahora en que lo que parece unresultado de la razón —el dominio de un lenguaje, la existencia deun mundo perceptual ricamente articulado, la habilidad lógica— sedebe en parte a la enseñanza y en parte a un proceso de crecimientoque se desarrolla con la fuerza de una ley natural. Y donde losargumentos parecen tener efecto, éste se debe más a menudo a surepetición física que a su contenido semántico

      La historia de los saberes escolares es un punto interesante para entender cómo los discursos científicos y académicos hegemónicos se instalaron en un espacio social. Lectura, escritura, aritmética, historia patria, religión y puericultura dominaban, por ejemplo, la formación escolar a comienzos del siglo XX en Colombia. Un siglo después, el inventario de saberes científicos y no científicos que se enseña en el aula es también el inventario de presupuestos con los que se supone el sujeto actual puede actuar en el espacio social.

    6. Necesitamos un criterio externo de crítica, necesitamos un conjun-to de supuestos alternativos o en otro caso, ya que tales supuestoshabrán de ser muy generales, necesitamos construir, por decirloasí, un mundo cdterniitivo completo, necesitamos un mundo so-ñado para descubrir los rasgos del mundo real en el que creemosliahitar (mundo que, de hecho, quizá no sea más que otro mundosoñado).

      Lo alternativo nace de una construcción conjunta en donde el "otro", la "alteridad" tiene un papel fundamental, creo que es importante partir de principios de lo "común" y del "valor de las cosas" . Mariana Mazzucato plantea 7 principios desde el campo económico, que se pueden aplicar al tema de estudio.

    7. Primero, tenemos una idea, o un problema,después actuamos, es decir, hablamos o construimos o destruimos

      En la generación de conocimiento nos basamos en crear estructuras mentales de flujos de información, en donde de manera ordenada damos una secuencia a las cosas y por lo tanto buscamos un actuar coherente a nuestra organización/estructura mental.

    8. Resulta claro, pues, que la idea de un método fijo, o la idea deuna teoría fija de la racionalidad, descansa sobre una concepciónexcesivamente ingenua del hombre y de su contorno social.

      No es un acto de extrañeza comprender la capacidad que tiene un individuo en la construcción de teorías diversas en un proceso de investigación o formativo, o en alguna línea de conocimiento. Centrarse en una sola metodología, es de alguna manera limitarse, y las miradas diversas son potentes en el flujo de trabajo científico, en los saberes, y para que se produzcan cambios sistémicos.

    9. al principio todo sirve

      Este principio sugiere que no hay una estructura fija en la ciencia. No existen elementos universales que siempre contribuyan al éxito científico y que no tengan funciones similares en otros sistemas.

      La investigación exitosa no sigue un camino prefijado; a veces se apoya en una regla, otras veces en otra, y no siempre se conocen explícitamente los movimientos que la hacen avanzar.

      Todo enfoque o método puede ser válido en la búsqueda del conocimiento, y no hay una única ruta hacia la verdad

    10. El proceso mismono está dirigido por un programa bien definido, y no puede estardirigido por un tal programa porque es el proceso el que contienelas condiciones de realización de todos los programas posibles.Antes bien, está dirigido por un vago impulso, por una 'pasión'(Kierkegaard).

      La diferencia entre proceso y programa es esencial para comprender cómo funcionan los sistemas informáticos y cómo se desarrollan los programas de software. Mientras que un proceso se refiere a una serie de pasos o actividades, un programa es un conjunto de instrucciones que permiten alcanzar un objetivo determinado.

    11. La historia dela ciencia, después de todo, no consta de hechos y de conclusionesderivadas de los hechos. Contiene también ideas, interpretacionesde hechos, problemas creados por interpretaciones conflictivas,errores, etc.

      La historia científica va más allá de una mera enumeración de hechos y conclusiones basadas en ellos.

      Interpretaciones y Problemas: La historia de la ciencia no se limita a registrar eventos objetivos. También abarca interpretaciones, ideas y conflictos. Los científicos no solo observan y registran datos; también interpretan esos datos a través de sus marcos teóricos y culturales. Estas interpretaciones pueden dar lugar a problemas y debates, lo que enriquece la narrativa histórica.

      Errores y Cambio: La ciencia no avanza en línea recta. Los errores y las correcciones son parte integral de su desarrollo. Las teorías pueden ser revisadas, rechazadas o modificadas a medida que se descubren nuevos datos o se generan nuevas ideas. Estos cambios son esenciales para el progreso científico.

      Ideas y Creatividad: Las ideas impulsan la ciencia. Los científicos formulan hipótesis, proponen modelos y desarrollan teorías basadas en su creatividad y razonamiento. Estas ideas, incluso si inicialmente parecen absurdas, pueden contribuir al avance del conocimiento.

      Choque entre Teorías y Hechos: A veces, las teorías no concuerdan completamente con los hechos observados. Sin embargo, este choque no necesariamente es negativo. Puede ser un indicio de progreso, ya que nos lleva a cuestionar y explorar más a fondo los principios subyacentes.

    1. comoapunta el ejemplo, dicho proyecto debería tener en realidaddos aspectos o momentos, si se prefiere: uno etnográfico yotro utópico, en un diálogo constante.

      El centro en el objetivo proyectado por Graeber es precisamente la razón por la que no es un proyecto vanguardista: observar a los otros y sus lógicas simbólicas, morales y pragmáticas; así como imaginar mundos mejores. No se trata de negar lo anterior, ni las instituciones, sino de observar lo innecesarias que son y que no se trata de crear procedimientos, como lo hacen las corrientes de vanguardia.

    2. que instituciones como el Estado, el capitalismo, elracismo o el patriarcado, no son inevitables;

      La premisa de que "otro mundo es posible" no es exclusiva del anarquismo, sino que es la utopía que muchos movimientos sociales y políticos sostienen. En este sentido, el anarquismo no tendría que reducirse a una perspectiva militante, sino a un movimiento y visión del mundo que privilegia la libertad. Y quizás en esto radique por qué ha sido desfigurado y demeritado en los escenarios sociales actuales.

    3. Pero, además,facilita la comprensión de por qué hay tan pocos anarquistasen la academia.

      En general, es más probable la adscripción de académicos de las ciencias políticas, ciencias socales y ciencias humanas a un movimiento como el anarquismo, y quizás con mayor fuerza en la universidad pública, quizás por el mayor grado de fundamentación y dabate que se posibilita en su interior. Sin embargo, no hay que desconocer que la universidad potencia una accionar más crítico por parte de sus académicos respecto a los sistemas políticos o dinámicas sociales de control, aunque sin fijarse el rótulo de "anarquista". El radicalismo que se desprende del término quizás limita su adscripción y defensa (la academica, igualmente, forma parte de estructuras institucionales jerárquicas), por lo que otras perspectivas críticas afloran con mayor fuerza (como el pensamiento decolonial, el pensamiento ecológico, el feminismo, el poshumanismo...).

    4. la sumisión a la ley, ni por laobediencia a la autoridad

      Podría ampliarse esta definición como la no sumisión a los sistemas sociales y económicos en general. Los sistemas asociados al neoliberalismo, basados en la competencia, la defensa a ultranza de la propiedad privada y el individualistmo (unos sujetos se hacen ricos y poderosos a costa del empobrecimiento y alineación de las masas), precisamente instalan una lógica de sumisión en detrimento de otros principios de organización de las personas, como la ayuda o cooperación mutuas.

    5. a mayoría de los gruposanarquistas opera por un proceso de consenso que se ha desarrollado, en muchos sentidos, como lo contrario del estilode voto a mano alzada, divisor y sectario, tan popular entreotros grupos radicales.

      Este enfoque se basa en el principio de que todas las voces deben ser escuchadas y consideradas por igual en el proceso de toma de decisiones. En lugar de buscar una mayoría simple que pueda alienar a una parte significativa del grupo, el objetivo es llegar a un consenso que tenga en cuenta las preocupaciones y perspectivas de todos los involucrados.

      El proceso de consenso implica discusiones abiertas y deliberaciones que buscan encontrar soluciones que satisfagan las necesidades y deseos de todos los miembros del grupo. Se fomenta el diálogo constructivo y la búsqueda de compromisos que permitan avanzar sin marginar a ningún individuo o grupo dentro de la comunidad.

      Además, este enfoque promueve la responsabilidad colectiva y la solidaridad, ya que cada miembro se compromete a apoyar las decisiones tomadas por consenso, incluso si inicialmente discrepaban. Esto ayuda a fortalecer los lazos dentro del grupo y a construir relaciones basadas en la confianza y el respeto mutuo.

    6. A los anarquistasles gusta destacar por su práctica y por cómo se organizanpara llevarla a cabo y, de hecho, han consagrado la mayorparte de su tiempo a pensar y discutir precisamente eso.

      El anarquismo no solo es una teoría política, sino también una práctica activa que busca transformar la realidad a través de la acción directa y la reflexión constante.

      Además, dedican gran parte de su tiempo a reflexionar y debatir precisamente sobre este tema.

      Esta observación resalta dos aspectos importantes del anarquismo:

      Énfasis en la Práctica: A diferencia de algunas corrientes teóricas que se centran principalmente en la discusión y la elaboración de ideas, los anarquistas ponen un fuerte énfasis en la acción directa. Para ellos, la práctica es fundamental para lograr cambios reales en la sociedad. Esto puede manifestarse en la participación en movimientos sociales, la creación de comunidades autogestionadas o la resistencia activa contra las estructuras de poder.

      Organización Horizontal: Los anarquistas tienden a organizarse de manera horizontal. Esto significa que evitan jerarquías y buscan tomar decisiones de manera colectiva. La autogestión y la cooperación voluntaria son valores fundamentales en su enfoque organizativo.

    7. La noción de «política» presupone un Estado o aparato degobierno que impone su voluntad a los demás. La «política» es la negación de lo político; la política está al serviciode alguna forma de élite, que afirma conocer mejor quelos demás como deben manejarse los asuntos públicos

      Muy concretamente lo dice Althusser en su texto Aparatos ideológicos del Estado. Es la política de cualquier gobierno actual, un potente aparato ideológico, precisamente para que un grupo mayoritario, haga, disponga y ejerza unos propósitos y temas de interés, de un grupo minoritario con poder.

    8. 1. El marxismo ha tendido a ser un discurso teórico o analítico sobre la estrategia revolucionaria.2. El anarquismo ha tendido a ser un discurso ético sobrela práctica revolucionaria

      Aquí es donde creería que existe una complementariedad entre el marxismo y el anarquismo, mientras el primero se encarga del fondo del proceso revolucionario, el segundo a mi entendimiento, vendría siendo la forma en que se plantea ese discurso desde lo integro y lo correcto.

    1. Figura 3.5. | Elementos a ter em conta na elaboração de uma e-atividade

      Olá grupo! Vou partilhar convosco a minha visão sobre os principais elementos que devem considerar na elaboração de uma e-atividade, fruto da minha experiência, que se desvia (apenas em parte), do esquema apresentado.

      Os principais elementos a ter em consideração na elaboração de e-atividades são, até, prévios à maioria dos elementos apresentados (com os quais concordo e habitualmente utilizo, mas de forma um pouco distinta). Antes de pensarem (ou esquemaatizarem) a vossa e-atividade, pensem primeiro nos destinatários da e-atividade e no tipo de ambiente digital que vão poder utilizar com os mesmos. Não faz sentido prepararmos e-atividades, com recurso a ferramentas "evoluídas", quando depois estamos, na prática, a "forçar" a utilização de ferramentas digitais a alun@s/formand@s. Eu começo por identificar, em linhas gerais (sem grande detalhe), três itens: - Que conteúdos quero transmitir com a minha e-atividade; - Que tempo tenho disponível para a e-atividade; e - Como vou efetuar a avaliação da e-atividade. Depois de estabelecer que ambiente digital posso utilizar, em função do grupo destinatário, já posso efetivamente começar a identificar recursos e definir os formatos a utilizar na e-atividade, detalhando muito mais todos os elementos.

      Reparem que disse "formatos" e não "formato". Isso deriva, novamente, da minha experiência: ao construir uma e-atividade, já sei que diferentes grupos requerem diferentes abordagens.

      Logo, em regra, quando preparo uma e-atividade, habitualmente faço-o recorrendo a ferramentas distintas, o que acaba por gerar duas (ou às vezes mais) e-atividades, que posso optar posteriormente, em função da evolução da formação que estou a ministrar.

      Continuação de excelente formação!

    2. A importância das e-atividades no ensino à distância é inegável. Com o avanço da tecnologia, a educação remota tem se tornado cada vez mais relevante, Acompanhamento do Perfil dos Alunos e Professores: o A educação a distância adapta-se ao perfil dos estudantes que estão altamente conectados à internet. Essa modalidade de ensino utiliza ferramentas tecnológicas para mediar a aprendizagem permitindo que os alunos utilizem recursos online para obter conhecimento. o A tecnologia na educação a distância aumenta a autonomia dos alunos. Eles podem aceder a ambientes virtuais de aprendizagem, assistir aulas sincronas, tirar dúvidas e interagir com colegas e professores. o Essa independência promove uma aprendizagem mais dirigida e adaptada às necessidades individuais. Facilidade e Interatividade: o A tecnologia torna o aprendizagem mais fácil e divertida. Em resumo, a tecnologia na educação a distância é uma aliada poderosa, proporcionando flexibilidade, autonomia e oportunidades de aprendizado inovadora.

    3. Tipologia de e-atividades (Maina, 2020

      Boa noite a todos,

      Existem portanto uma enorme possibilidade de tipologias disponíveis para o enriquecimento da aprendizagem e com possibilidade de adequação aos objetivos pretendidos.

    4. as atividades realizadas por meio de dispositivoseletrónicos, têm um papel importante no desenho das estratégias deaprendizagem.

      Uma vez que, é possível adaptar o conteúdo de acordo com o ritmo de aprendizagem e necessidades de cada aluno. Os alunos têm também uma maior facilidade de acesso a conteúdos o que lhes permite uma maior autonomia no seu processo de aprendizagem. Através de fóruns de discussão, videoconferências, grupos de trabalho online, entre outras ferramentas, permite que haja uma maior interação entre os alunos o que pode revelar-se um fator motivador. Saudações académicas, Paula Costa

    5. A pergunta que se impõe é saber como selecionar a e-atividade maisadequada ao nosso propósito.

      Boa tarde caros professores e colegas. No que concerne a criar e desenhar "boas" atividades de aprendizagem em ambientes digitais em rede é fundamental para promover uma experiência educativa eficaz e envolvente. Algumas diretrizes e considerações importantes a ter em conta ao desenvolver e-atividades de qualidade são as seguintes: 1. Clarificar os Objetivos de Aprendizagem: Antes de criar qualquer atividade, é essencial ter objetivos de aprendizagem claros e alinhados com o conteúdo do curso. As atividades devem ser projetadas para ajudar os alunos a alcançar esses objetivos. 2. Promover a Interatividade: As atividades devem ser interativas e envolventes para manter o interesse dos alunos. Isso pode incluir elementos como fóruns de discussão, quizzes interativos, simulações, entre outros. 3. Incorporar Diversidade de Recursos: Utilizar uma variedade de recursos multimédia, como vídeos, infográficos, ‘podcasts’, para tornar as atividades mais atrativas e facilitar a compreensão dos alunos. 4. Fomentar a Colaboração: Promova a colaboração entre os alunos por meio de atividades em grupo, projetos colaborativos e discussões ‘online’. Isso ajuda a construir um ambiente de aprendizagem social e colaborativo. 5. Incorporar ‘Feedback’ Significativo: Forneça ‘feedback’ construtivo e personalizado aos alunos durante e após a realização das atividades. O ‘feedback’ ajuda os alunos a compreender o seu progresso e a melhorar o seu desempenho. 6. Garantir Acessibilidade: Certifique-se de que as e-atividades sejam acessíveis a todos os alunos, independentemente das suas habilidades e recursos tecnológicos disponíveis. Isso promove a inclusão e a equidade na aprendizagem. 7. Avaliar Regularmente: Avaliar regularmente a eficácia das atividades de aprendizagem, recolhendo ‘feedback’ dos alunos e ajustando-as conforme necessário para melhorar a experiência de aprendizagem.

      Ao seguir essas diretrizes e considerações, é possível criar e desenhar atividades de aprendizagem de alta qualidade em ambientes digitais em rede, proporcionando uma experiência educativa enriquecedora e eficaz para os alunos.

      Com os melhores cumprimentos,

      Tânia Filipe

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      Objeto:

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      Mensaje:

      • El mensaje principal enviado es /, que es un mensaje binario. Este mensaje se utiliza para combinar dos rutas de archivos o directorios.

      Argumento:

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La diferenciación se utiliza comúnmente en el “agrupamiento heterogéneo”, una estrategia educativa en la que se agrupan estudiantes con diferentes habilidades, necesidades de aprendizaje y niveles de rendimiento académico. Evaluación formativa (evaluaciones periódicas durante el proceso de lo que los estudiantes están aprendiendo o no aprendiendo) para determinar los mejores enfoques de instrucción o modificaciones necesarias para cada estudiante. Conclusiones clave modificaciones a : práctica (cómo los profesores imparten instrucción a los estudiantes), proceso (cómo se diseña la lección para los estudiantes), productos (los tipos de productos de trabajo que los estudiantes deberán completar), Contenido (las lecturas, investigaciones o materiales específicos que los estudiantes estudiarán), evaluación (cómo los profesores miden lo que los estudiantes han aprendido), y agrupamiento (cómo se organizan los estudiantes en el aula o se los empareja con otros estudiantes). interés (qué materias inspiran a los estudiantes a aprender), preparación (lo que los estudiantes han aprendido y aún necesitan aprender) o estilo de aprendizaje (las formas en que los estudiantes tienden a aprender mejor el material). Diferenciación versus andamiaje instrucción diferenciada , pueden dar a algunos estudiantes una lectura completamente diferente (para que coincida mejor con su nivel y habilidad de lectura), darle a toda la clase la opción de elegir entre varios textos (para que cada estudiante pueda elegir el que más les interese), o Brinde a la clase varias opciones para completar una tarea relacionada (por ejemplo, a los estudiantes se les podría permitir escribir un ensayo tradicional, dibujar un ensayo ilustrado en forma de cómic, crear un “ensayo” de presentación de diapositivas con texto e imágenes, o presentar una presentación oral). presentación). En la instrucción andamiada , generalmente dividen una experiencia, concepto o habilidad de aprendizaje en partes discretas y luego brindan a los estudiantes la asistencia que necesitan para aprender cada parte. Por ejemplo, los profesores pueden dar a los estudiantes un extracto de un texto más extenso para que lo lean, involucrarlos en una discusión sobre el extracto para mejorar su comprensión de su propósito y enseñarles el vocabulario que necesitan para comprender el texto antes de asignarles la lectura completa. Cuadro comparativo de diferenciación Mitos y conceptos erróneos sobre la instrucción diferenciada y el diseño universal para el aprendizaje La diferenciación es una estrategia que ayuda a los instructores a abordar el nivel individual de preparación, interés y perfiles de aprendizaje de cada estudiante (Nelson, 2014). En comparación, el UDL es un marco educativo global que aborda el entorno de aprendizaje en su conjunto . Esto incluye tanto el entorno físico de aprendizaje como las lecciones, unidades y/o plan de estudios. Cuando se aborda primero todo el entorno, se eliminan las barreras físicas, mentales y psicológicas para que todos los estudiantes tengan pleno acceso al aula, independientemente de sus necesidades y capacidades. Debate equidad y “seguimiento académico” en las escuelas públicas. Una crítica importante al enfoque está relacionada con las relativas complejidades y dificultades que implica enseñar a diversos tipos de estudiantes en un solo aula o entorno educativo. desarrollo profesional para garantizar que estén utilizando técnicas de instrucción diferenciadas de manera adecuada y efectiva. Cómo diferenciar la instrucción en aulas de capacidades mixtas , la educadora y escritora Carol Ann Tomlinson , considerada una autoridad en diferenciación, señala una fuente potencial de confusión: "La instrucción diferenciada no es la 'instrucción individualizada' de los años 1970". En otras palabras, la diferenciación es la práctica de variar técnicas de instrucción en un aula para enseñar eficazmente a tantos estudiantes como sea posible , pero no implica la creación de cursos de estudio distintos para cada estudiante (es decir, instrucción individualizada). Instrucción diferenciada e implicaciones para la implementación del UDL Aula diferenciada: Respondiendo a las necesidades de todos los estudiantes (2014), los maestros en un aula diferenciada comienzan con su plan de estudios actual y una instrucción atractiva. Luego preguntan qué se necesitará para alterar o modificar el plan de estudios y la instrucción de modo que cada alumno obtenga el conocimiento, la comprensión y las habilidades necesarias para asumir la siguiente fase importante del aprendizaje. La instrucción diferenciada es un proceso de enseñanza y aprendizaje para estudiantes de diferentes habilidades en la misma clase. Los profesores, basándose en las características de preparación, interés y perfil de aprendizaje de sus alumnos, pueden adaptar o manipular varios elementos del currículo (contenido, proceso, producto, afecto/entorno). Estos se ilustran en la Tabla 1 a continuación, que presenta los principios generales de diferenciación mostrando los elementos clave del concepto y las relaciones entre esos elementos. Institutos sobre Diversidad Académica en la Escuela de Educación Curry de la Universidad de Virginia (septiembre de 2014) Identificación de componentes/características La filosofía de la diferenciación se basa en los siguientes principios: (1) reconocer la diversidad es normal y valioso, (2) comprender que cada estudiante tiene la capacidad de aprender, (3) asumir la responsabilidad de guiar y estructurar el éxito de los estudiantes, (4) defender a cada estudiante que ingresa al entorno de aprendizaje y garantizar la equidad de acceso Los principios identificados que dan forma a la diferenciación incluyen (1) crear un entorno propicio para el aprendizaje (2) identificar un plan de estudios fundamental de calidad (3) informar la enseñanza y el aprendizaje con evaluaciones (4) diseñar instrucción basada en las evaluaciones recopiladas (5) crear y mantener un aula flexible Las prácticas también son esenciales para la diferenciación, resaltadas como (1) planificación proactiva para abordar los perfiles de los estudiantes (2) modificar los enfoques de instrucción para satisfacer las necesidades de los estudiantes (3) enseñar (los estudiantes deberían trabajar justo por encima de sus niveles de comodidad individuales) (4) asignar tareas respetuosas que respondan a las necesidades de los estudiantes: desafiantes, atractivas y decididas (5) aplicar estrategias de agrupación flexibles (por ejemplo, estaciones, grupos de interés, estudios orbitales) Contenido Se utilizan varios elementos y materiales para apoyar el contenido educativo. Estos incluyen actos, conceptos, generalizaciones o principios, actitudes y habilidades. La variación que se observa en un aula diferenciada suele estar en la manera en que los estudiantes acceden a aprendizajes importantes. El acceso al contenido se considera clave. Alinear tareas y objetivos con las metas de aprendizaje. Los diseñadores de instrucción diferenciada consideran esencial la alineación de las tareas con las metas y objetivos de instrucción. Los objetivos se evalúan con mayor frecuencia mediante muchas pruebas de alto riesgo a nivel estatal y con frecuencia se administran medidas estandarizadas. Los objetivos suelen escribirse en pasos incrementales, lo que da como resultado una serie de tareas de desarrollo de habilidades. Un menú basado en objetivos hace que sea más fácil encontrar el siguiente paso de instrucción para los estudiantes que ingresan en diferentes niveles. La instrucción se centra en conceptos y está impulsada por principios. Los conceptos de instrucción deben tener una base amplia, no centrarse en detalles minuciosos o hechos ilimitados. Los profesores deben centrarse en los conceptos, principios y habilidades que los estudiantes deben aprender. El contenido de la instrucción debe abordar los mismos conceptos con todos los estudiantes, pero el grado de complejidad debe ajustarse para adaptarse a los diversos estudiantes. Aclarar conceptos clave y generalizaciones. Asegúrese de que todos los alumnos obtengan conocimientos sólidos que puedan servir como base para el aprendizaje futuro. Se anima a los profesores a identificar conceptos esenciales y focos de instrucción para garantizar que todos los alumnos comprendan. Proceso La agrupación flexible se utiliza constantemente. Las estrategias para una agrupación flexible son esenciales. Se espera que los estudiantes interactúen y trabajen juntos a medida que desarrollan conocimientos sobre nuevos contenidos. Los profesores pueden llevar a cabo debates introductorios con toda la clase sobre las grandes ideas del contenido, seguidos de trabajo en grupos pequeños o en parejas. Los grupos de estudiantes pueden recibir capacitación interna o del maestro para ayudarlos a completar las tareas asignadas. La agrupación de estudiantes no es fija. Como uno de los fundamentos de la instrucción diferenciada, el agrupamiento y reagrupamiento debe ser un proceso dinámico, que cambia con el contenido, el proyecto y las evaluaciones continuas. La gestión del aula beneficia a estudiantes y profesores. Para operar eficazmente un salón de clases utilizando instrucción diferenciada, los maestros deben seleccionar cuidadosamente la organización y las estrategias de impartición de instrucción. En su texto, Cómo diferenciar la instrucción en aulas con capacidades mixtas (2001), Carol Tomlinson identifica 17 estrategias clave para que los docentes enfrenten con éxito el desafío de diseñar y gestionar la instrucción diferenciada. Enfatizar el pensamiento crítico y creativo como objetivo en el diseño de lecciones. Las tareas, actividades y procedimientos para los estudiantes deben exigir que comprendan y apliquen el significado. La instrucción puede requerir apoyos, motivación adicional; y tareas, materiales o equipos variados para diferentes estudiantes en el aula. Productos La evaluación inicial y continua de la preparación y el crecimiento de los estudiantes son esenciales. Una evaluación previa significativa conduce naturalmente a una diferenciación funcional y exitosa. La incorporación de evaluaciones previas y continuas informa a los docentes para que puedan ofrecer mejor un menú de enfoques, opciones y andamios para las diversas necesidades, intereses y habilidades que existen en las aulas de diversos estudiantes. Las evaluaciones pueden ser formales o informales, incluidas entrevistas, encuestas, evaluaciones de desempeño y procedimientos de evaluación más formales. Utilice la evaluación como herramienta de enseñanza para ampliar, en lugar de simplemente medir, la instrucción. La evaluación debe realizarse antes, durante y después del episodio de instrucción; y debe usarse para ayudar a plantear preguntas sobre las necesidades de los estudiantes y el aprendizaje óptimo. Los estudiantes son exploradores activos y responsables. Los profesores respetan que cada tarea que se le presente al alumno sea interesante, atractiva y accesible a la comprensión y las habilidades esenciales. Cada niño debe sentirse desafiado la mayor parte del tiempo. Variar las expectativas y requisitos para las respuestas de los estudiantes. Los ítems a los que responden los estudiantes pueden diferenciarse para que diferentes estudiantes puedan demostrar o expresar su conocimiento y comprensión de diversas maneras. Un producto estudiantil bien diseñado permite diversos medios de expresión y procedimientos alternativos y ofrece distintos grados de dificultad, tipos de evaluación y puntuación. Afecto/Ambiente Desarrollar un ambiente de aprendizaje. Establecer condiciones en el aula que establezcan el tono y las expectativas para el aprendizaje. Proporcione tareas que sean desafiantes, interesantes y valiosas para los estudiantes. Involucrar a todos los estudiantes es esencial. Se anima a los profesores a esforzarse por desarrollar lecciones que sean atractivas y motivadoras para una clase diversa de estudiantes. Variar las tareas dentro de la instrucción y entre los estudiantes. En otras palabras, una sesión completa para estudiantes no debe consistir únicamente en conferencias, debates, prácticas o una sola estructura o actividad. Proporcionar un equilibrio entre las tareas asignadas por el profesor y las seleccionadas por los estudiantes. Una estructura de trabajo equilibrada es óptima en un aula diferenciada. Según la información previa a la evaluación, el saldo variará de una clase a otra, así como de una lección a otra. Los profesores deben garantizar que los estudiantes tengan opciones en su aprendizaje. romper las barreras educativas . Hemos identificado formas adicionales de reducir aún más las barreras en esta lección mediante el empleo de los principios de los métodos de enseñanza UDL y la instrucción diferenciada. Proporcionamos recomendaciones sobre el empleo de métodos de enseñanza de UDL para respaldar esta lección en la Tabla 3. Tenga en cuenta que no estamos haciendo recomendaciones generalizadas para hacer que esta lección sea más UDL, sino que nos centramos en formas en que la instrucción diferenciada, específicamente, puede ayudar a lograr este objetivo. . Tabla 2. Elementos del UDL en una lección de matemáticas de instrucción diferenciada Directriz/punto de control del UDL Funciones de instrucción diferenciadas Proporcione múltiples ejemplos. El maestro proporciona múltiples ejemplos a lo largo de la lección con múltiples modelos, actividades de práctica y problemas matemáticos adicionales. Resalte las características críticas. El maestro resalta características críticas de las matemáticas al detenerse y calcular, consultar con los estudiantes y modelar el comportamiento. Proporcionar múltiples medios y formatos. El docente apoya la comprensión identificando patrones no sólo en el texto sino también en el entorno del aula, la escuela, etc. Contexto de fondo de soporte. Los profesores analizan o evalúan previamente a los estudiantes en busca de habilidades previas clave y conocimientos previos. Proporcione comentarios continuos y relevantes. En grupos cooperativos, los estudiantes pueden recibir retroalimentación del profesor y de sus compañeros. Ofrezca opciones de contenido y herramientas. Los estudiantes son asignados a uno de tres grupos clasificados por dificultad; Todos los estudiantes están trabajando en la misma tarea pero con diferentes apoyos. Ofrezca niveles ajustables de desafío. Los apoyos variados en los grupos de trabajo alteran el nivel de independencia y dificultad para resolver la tarea. Tabla 3. Estrategias del UDL para minimizar aún más las barreras de la lección en un plan de lección de instrucción diferenciada para matemáticas. Barrera Estrategia UDL Deducir/construir funciones numéricas. Proporcione diferentes demostraciones o modelos de cómo utilizar las herramientas empleadas en la lección. Proporcione apoyos e indique a los estudiantes el uso de patrones numéricos. Los estudiantes escriben reglas para patrones matemáticos. Proporcionar formatos alternativos para que los estudiantes expresen su interpretación de patrones visuales y representacionales y las implicaciones matemáticas. Por ejemplo, hablar, crear un diagrama, representaciones numéricas. Creando patrones numéricos. Considere los conocimientos previos para los estudiantes que ingresan a este problema matemático. ¿Qué gama de apoyos podrían estar disponibles para proporcionar el conocimiento informativo para que los estudiantes puedan concentrarse en el comp

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