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nation.cymru nation.cymru
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Publisher overwhelmed by response to Welsh Hobbit by [[Stephen Price]]
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The one exception is the scene with the Trolls, who in Tolkien’s original speak in Cockney accents, substituted in the translation for Caernarfon Welsh (“Cofi”).
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melinbapur.cymru melinbapur.cymru
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https://melinbapur.cymru/
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- Mar 2024
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https://llyfrau.cymru/en/cyfresi-arbennig/dysgu-cymraeg/amdani-dysgwyr/
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pure.southwales.ac.uk pure.southwales.ac.uk
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Dawn dweud: A study of colloquial and idiomatic welsh Ceri M. P. Jones
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www.ylolfa.com www.ylolfa.com
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https://www.ylolfa.com/products/9781800992887/my-way-to-welsh<br /> My Way to Welsh: A complete course for home learning<br /> Heini Gruffudd
ᔥDeborah-SSi in Heini Gruffudd's new book - Welsh / General / Questions - SSi Forum<br /> (accessed:: 2024-03-07 07:59:11)
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www.icongrouponline.com www.icongrouponline.com
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en.forum.saysomethingin.com en.forum.saysomethingin.com
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This morning I ran across a copy of Jane Austen's novel Emma with some of the keywords on each page translated into Welsh as footnotes at the bottom of the page. Apparently it's part of a series of classic books published by Icon into a variety of different languages and meant for language learners.
The full list of their titles with Welsh can be found here: Webster's Welsh Thesaurus Editions
I'm curious if anyone has used these before, and if so, how helpful they've found them for building their Welsh vocabulary as they read English language works.
Is anyone aware of Welsh language books that have this sort of English vocabulary cross listed on the page? (Sort of the way in which lingo.360.cymru has news stories in Welsh with English translation help along the way?)
syndication link: https://en.forum.saysomethingin.com/t/websters-welsh-thesaurus-editions/40131
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- Dec 2023
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en.forum.saysomethingin.com en.forum.saysomethingin.com
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Gareth King’s Modern Welsh Dictionary is great for learners - it has example phrases of spoken and written Welsh, so that you can see the language in context
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- Oct 2023
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www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
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Michael Sheen returned OBE to air views on royal family<br /> by Kevin Rawlinson<br /> Tue 29 Dec 2020 11.41 EST<br /> https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2020/dec/29/michael-sheen-gave-back-obe-to-air-views-on-royal-family
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www.cadwyngifts.com www.cadwyngifts.com
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Centuries ago in Wales, the young lover would also give gifts of sweets or cakes; but they would also give a special, more personal gift to the object of their desire, the Welsh Love Spoon. Some of the early love spoons can be seen on display at the Welsh Folk Museum in Cardiff. There is even one that dates back to 1667. The young man would spend hours carving the lovespoon with his own hands, in the hope that the girl would accept it. If the girl accepted the spoon, she would demonstrate her interest in him and they would commence on a relationship, which is the origin of the word 'spooning'.
Dating back to the late 1600s, the Welsh tradition of carving a lovespoon for the eye of one's affection is the origin of the word "spooning".
via https://www.cadwyngifts.com/pages/information-about-love-spoons
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- Jul 2023
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- Jun 2023
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welshclass.wales welshclass.wales
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https://welshclass.wales/podcast%2Fpodlediad
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- May 2023
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oldenglishwordhord.com oldenglishwordhord.comclypnys1
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clypnys, f.n: an embrace. (KLUEP-nuess / ˈklyp-nys)
Cognate with the Welsh cwtch??
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- Apr 2023
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www.howlingwolfbooks.org www.howlingwolfbooks.org
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www.gutenberg.org www.gutenberg.org
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A Graduated English-Welsh Spelling Book by John Lewis
Some of the words may have shifted a bit since 1857, but there's something delightfully subversive about considering using this book to learn/practice Welsh in 2023.
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en.forum.saysomethingin.com en.forum.saysomethingin.com
- Feb 2023
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duome.eu duome.eu
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https://duome.eu/chrisaldrich/progress
Duolingo progress with words and grammar tabs
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www.meucymru.co.uk www.meucymru.co.uk
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Typing the to bach and other accented characters in Windows 7, Vista and XP by Meurig Williams
I know I had it in there somewhere, but can't find it this morning.
To bach or circumflex on Welsh keyboard is:<br /> ctrl-alt ^ + letter
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www.s4c.cymru www.s4c.cymru
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https://www.s4c.cymru/en/international/
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https://www.s4c.cymru/clic/
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Hello from S4C - Welsh - SSi Forum<br /> by sara-peacock-1
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Yma o Hyd Course - SaySomethingin
Can't wait for the audio files for this to pop up!
Until then: YouTube video with consecutive Welsh/English subtitles<br /> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkBQAvAFjus
YouTube video from FA Wales with Dafydd Iwan and the Red Wall<br /> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43Fag8ZQcz4
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mastodon.social mastodon.socialMastodon1
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Diolch'n fawr!
Happy to see that @hirnbloggade@bildung.social has got some Welsh and somehow knows I do too.
https://mastodon.social/@hirnbloggade@bildung.social/109835728484596323
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Welsh in the Rhondda - it was our language too
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- Jan 2023
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www.youtube.com www.youtube.com
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This seems to have an interesting relation to the tradition of wassailers and "luck visitors" traditions or The Christmas Mummers (1858). The song We Wish You a Merry Christmas (Roud Folk Song Index #230 and #9681) from the English West Country (Cornwall) was popularized by Arthur Warrell (1883-1939) in 1935. It contains lyrics "We won't go until we get some" in relation to figgy pudding and seems very similar in form to Mari Lwyd songs used to gain access to people's homes and hospitality. An 1830's version of the song had a "cellar full of beer" within the lyrics.
I'm curious if the Roud Folk Song Index includes any Welsh songs or translations that have similar links? Perhaps other folk song indices (Child Ballads?) may provide clues as well?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YU5pk-Hc758
Dr. Gwilym Morus-Baird
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- Llyn Bochlwyd (lake gray cheek)
- Foel Fawr
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Erasure of culture
Memory and place names
"A nation which forgets its past has no future." - Winston Churchill (check quote and provenance)
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Siwan Clark, a Welsh speaker and MSc candidate in Social Research Methods at University College London, said Wales is environmentally suffering because of centuries of British colonialism, particularly during the Industrial Revolution, which had a devastating global environmental impact.Clark said her mother, who grew up on a farm in North Wales, understands critical Welsh words—a language Clark said is deeply agricultural—that “have no context or meaning” for her.“Industrialized farming is inextricable from empire,” Clark said. “If those small farms fail, then the language won’t truly survive.”
!- Welsh indigneous language : bio-cultural worldview - researcher Siwan Clark, University College London, claims Wales is suffering environmentally since British colonialism during Industrial Revolution - North Wales - critical Welsh words are deeply agricultural. The fall of the small farms also erodes the language they evovled
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If it interests you, GPC lists phrases like dysgu ar gof. This page then gives the example, "Yn yr hen ddyddiau byddai pobl yn dysgu cerddi ar gof" - like saying "to learn by heart" in English.
https://www.reddit.com/r/learnwelsh/comments/10acr9j/sut_i_ddweud_i_memorized_yn_gymraeg/
Fascinating that the Welsh language doesn't seem to have a direct translatable word/verb for "to memorize". The closest are dysgu (to learn, to teach) and cofio (to remember).
Related phrase: yn dysgu cerddi ar gof (to learn poems by heart), though this last is likely a more direct translation of an English concept back into Welsh.
Is this lack of a seemingly basic word for such a practice a hidden indicator of the anthropology of their way of knowing?
If to learn something means that one fully memorizes it from the start, then one needn't sub-specify, right?
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- Dec 2022
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en.forum.saysomethingin.com en.forum.saysomethingin.com
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www.amazon.com www.amazon.com
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web.archive.org web.archive.org
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https://web.archive.org/web/20061012215828/http://www.chass.utoronto.ca/~klausner/part.html
Check-list of common particles
GMW=D. Simon Evans Grammar of Middle Welsh (Dublin, 1964)
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- definite article (yr before vowels and h), GMW 24.
- unstressed possessive pronoun, masc. or fem., sing. or pl., GMW 53.
- preposition 'to' (inflected forms, GMW 60; can take infixed pronoun).
- oblique relative particle, used when relative stands in genitival relationship, or is governed by a preposition, adverb, or nominal predicate. GMW 64ff.
- conjunction 'that' (yd before vowels), GMW 171.
- y (4) + y (2 or 5) = y.
- affirmative preverbal particle (also appears as yd, ydd, ytt), GMW 171.
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- affirmative preverbal particle, especially to support infixed pronoun, GMW 171.
- relative pronoun/particle, GMW 172.
- preposition 'with' (can take infixed pronoun), GMW 181.
- conjunction 'and' (can take infixed pronoun), GMW 230.
- variant of 'o', preposition 'of, from', GMW 205.
- interrogative particle, GMW 174.
- vocative particle (interjection), GMW 245.
- 3 sing. pres. ind. of 'mynet', GMW 132.
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- preposition 'of, from' (inflected forms, GMW 59); can take infixed pronoun.
- conjunction 'if', GMW 240.
- interjection 'alas', GMW 245.
- in composite prepositions, GMW 205-6.
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www.digitalmedievalist.com www.digitalmedievalist.com
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There are student editions of the poems of Dafyd ap Gwilym, and of Y Gododdin, the strange, and rather difficult medieval Welsh epic poem about the battle of the men of the north at Catraeth, part of the Welsh contribution to Celtic Arthurian literature.
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Geiriadur Prifysgol Cymru The Really Big Welsh dictionary, the Welsh equivalent of the OED
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the Pedeir Keinc y Mabinogi edited by Ifor Williams from the White Book manuscript is still the standard edition of the four branches; it includes lengthy notes as well as the edited text, all in Welsh.
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Checklist of Middle Welsh Particles by Professor David Klausner at the University of Toronto.
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If you are at all serious about Welsh mythology, you will want Rachel Bromwich’s Triodd Ynys Prydein. Bromwich has a super introduction, all the triads, in English and Welsh, and extensive notes on names. Her notes alone are worth the money.
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Mediaeval and Modern Welsh Series
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Language/location related Mastodon Instances:
- https://ailbhean.co-shaoghal.net/
- This server is aimed at Gaelic speakers. Tha am frithealaiche seo ann do luchd na Gàidhlig.
- https://mastodon.scot
- A community primarily intended for (but not limited to) people in Scotland or who identify as Scottish.
- https://mastodon.ie/
- Irish Mastodon
- https://toot.wales
- Twt is the free and open community for Wales and the Welsh, at home and abroad.
- https://ailbhean.co-shaoghal.net/
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- Oct 2022
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www.saysomethingin.com www.saysomethingin.com
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nation.cymru nation.cymru
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https://nation.cymru/news/rob-mcelhenney-learning-welsh-and-can-sing-hen-wlad-fy-nhadau-perfectly/
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BBC: Will a new name give Wales' sparkling wine cheers?. https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-62967258
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https://en.forum.saysomethingin.com/t/hills-and-mountains-in-welsh/36923
- twyn - hill(ock), mound, knoll, hummock, heap, peak, dune, molehill
- tyle - hill(ock) (with a suggestion of steepness)
- allt - hill(side), steep gradient, cliff, wooded slope
- bryn - hill, hillock, mountain
- gallt - slope, hill, cliff, rock, wooded hillside
- garth - mountain ridge, promontory hill, wooded slope
- rhiw - steep slope, hill(side) (more commonly used in the SW)
- bryncyn - hillock, knoll, tump, mound, heap
- poncen/ponc/poncyn - hillock, tump, knoll, rising ground (more commonly used in the N)
- trip - steep hill (relating to a road or path) (more commonly used in SE)
- banc - rising ground, hillock, ridge, slope
- moel - bare mountain, treeless hill, summit, rounded mountain
- mynydd - mountain, large hill
- ban (pl. bannau) - top, tip, summit, crest, peak, beacon, hill, mountain, bare hill
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Old Course 1 Lesson 6
rhoi<br /> gweithio<br /> meddwl<br /> i fi<br /> i ti<br /> yn galed<br /> am hynny<br /> Bydda i'n<br /> Fydda' i ddim yn<br /> Fory<br /> amdani<br /> diolch<br /> Byddi di'n...<br /> Fyddi di ddim yn...<br /> Fyddi di'n...?<br /> Byddaf, bydda i'n...<br /> Na (fyddaf), fydda'i ddim yn...<br /> Helo<br /> Bore da<br /> Ti'n iawn?<br /> Ydw, diolch yn fawr.<br /> Mae'n ddrwg 'da fi.<br /> Dw i ddim yn siarad Cymraeg yn dda iawn.<br /> Paid siarad Saesneg gyda fi, plîs.<br /> Ti'n siarad braidd yn glou.<br /> Siarada'n arafach, plîs.<br /> Siwd mae'r gwaith?<br /> Fel 'na mae.<br /> ...yndefe.<br /> Ti'n moyn coffi / dishgled o de?<br /> Dere 'mlaen 'te.<br /> 'Na ddigon!<br /> Mae isie i ni siarad Saesneg nawr!
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Old Course 1 Lesson 5
Llaeth<br /> bara<br /> cig<br /> caws<br /> ci<br /> cath<br /> mae<br /> gyda<br /> ifanc<br /> hen<br /> heno<br /> y<br /> yr<br /> 'r<br /> Mae ... gyda fi / ti<br /> Does dim ... gyda fi / ti<br /> Oes ... gyda ti?<br /> Oes, mae ... gyda fi.<br /> Nag oes, does dim ... gyda fi.<br /> Mae isie i fi / ti...<br /> Oes isie i fi / ti...<br /> Oes, mae isie i fi...<br /> Nag oes, does dim isie i fi...
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Old Course 1 Lesson 4
a<br /> ac<br /> ond<br /> neu<br /> yn dda<br /> yn barod<br /> yn hapus<br /> Wnest ti...<br /> Wnest ti ddim...<br /> Wnest ti...?<br /> Do, wnes i...<br /> Naddo, wnes i ddim...
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Old Course 1 Lesson 3
To finish - cwpla<br /> To buy - prynu<br /> To come - dod<br /> To sleep - cysgu<br /> To take - cymryd<br /> To see - gweld<br /> I'm going to speak - Dw i'n mynd i siarad<br /> I'm not going to speak - Dw i ddim yn mynd i siarad<br /> You're going to speak - Ti'n mynd i siarad<br /> You're not going to speak - Ti ddim yn mynd i siarad<br /> I spoke - Wnes i siarad<br /> I didn't speak - Wnes i ddim siarad
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Old Course 1 Lesson 2
How - sut<br /> What - beth<br /> Something - rhywbeth<br /> Nothing - dim byd<br /> Why - pam<br /> Because - achos<br /> Him - fe, e<br /> You're speaking - Ti'n siarad<br /> You're not speaking - Ti ddim yn siarad<br /> Are you speaking? Wyt ti'n siarad?<br /> Yes, I'm speaking - Yndw, dw i'n siarad<br /> No, I'm not speaking - Nac ydw, dw i ddim yn siarad
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Old Course 1 Lesson 1
I'm trying - dwi'n trio<br /> I'm not trying - dwi ddim yn trio<br /> To like - hoffi<br /> To speak - siarad<br /> Welsh - Cymraeg<br /> To go - mynd<br /> To stay - aros<br /> To do - gwneud<br /> To say - dweud<br /> To be able - gallu<br /> To know - gwybod<br /> To want - moyn<br /> You're speaking - ti'n siarad
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ymlaenwelsh.com ymlaenwelsh.com
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https://ymlaenwelsh.com/2018/11/11/on-word-field-farming/
Creating world fields (groups of words related to a particular area or field of knowledge) can be helpful for acquiring vocabulary in a new language. There's no research here to back up the claim, but it's an interesting word game and method for familiarize oneself with a small area and acquire new words related to an area or various related stem words.
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ta ra - bye bye
We [the Welsh] are a magic people, constantly doing magic tricks which is why we need to say "ta da" all the time.
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A fun little website from someone learning/sharing Welsh.
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- Aug 2022
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lingo.360.cymru lingo.360.cymru
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https://lingo.360.cymru/lingo-newydd/
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"it's not the amount of speakers that will save us"
https://www.bbc.com/news/av/uk-wales-62483610
A powerful fuckin' poem here.
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https://forum.saysomethingin.com/t/next-step-from-lingo-newydd/36466
Suggestions for active reading to learn Welsh
Lingo Newydd: https://lingo.360.cymru/lingo-newydd/
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https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-61864756
see also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onion_Johnny
Not mentioned is the tradition of using common names with other job related nouns as a means of identifying people with careers. Eg: Johnny Butcher
see also: https://podcasts.apple.com/sn/podcast/episode-6-job-and-places-of-work/id274989284?i=1000366645645
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"My grandfather used to always say when we got to customs we only had hard work, tiredness and dust to declare."
—Patrick Mevel
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I'm going as an onion johnny this halloween and would like to add some authenticity.
Will you also be traveling and singing with y fari lwyd? 🐴💀
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https://forum.saysomethingin.com/t/grasshoppers/36340
Variations of the word grasshopper in Welsh:<br /> * Ceiliog y gwair * Sioncyn y gwair * Robin sbonciwr * Sbonciwr y gwair * Ceiliog y rhedyn
Note that the last one translates as cockerel of the fern and is probably related to kilhog-raden (in Bretton) and kulyek reden (in Cornish).
The verb (y)sboncio means to spring/leap/jump<br /> thus sbonciwr is someone/something that springs, leaps or jumps and is also related to sboncen (the game squash).
gwair translates as grass
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dysgucymraeg.cymru dysgucymraeg.cymruCroeso1
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www.reddit.com www.reddit.com
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https://nation.cymru/culture/welsh-language-plaque-unveiled-at-dylan-thomas-birthplace/
Just in time for the International Dylan Thomas Day on May 14th!
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Where there wasn’t a local real Mari Lwyd to hand, the flat-pack Mari designed by David Pitt has been incredibly useful.
Modern celebrations of the Mari Lwyd which haven't had easy access to a horse skull to decorate have used a flat-pack cardboard version of a skull designed by David Pitt.
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I've been studying Welsh on and off now for just over a year.
I've been using a mix of Duolingo for it's easy user interface and it's built in spaced repetition. I like the way that it integrates vocabulary and grammar in a holistic way which focuses on both reading, writing, and listening.
However, I've also been using the fantastic platform Say Something in Welsh. This uses an older method of listening and producing based teaching which actually makes my brain feel a bit tired after practice. The focus here is solely on listening and speaking and forces the student to verbally produce the language. It's a dramatically different formula than most high school and college based courses I've seen and used over the years having taken 3 years of Spanish, 2 of French, and 2 of Latin.
The set up consists of the introduction of a few words which are then used in a variety of combinations to create full sentences. The instructors say a sentence in English and the listener is encouraged in just a few seconds to attempt to produce it in the target language (Welsh, in my case), then the instructor says the sentence in Welsh with a pause for the student to repeat it properly, another instructor says it in Welsh with a pause for a third repeat. This goes on for 20 to 30 minutes at a time. The end result is that the learner gets into the language much more quickly and can begin both understanding the spoken language as well as produce it much more rapidly than older school based methods (at least in my experience, though I have known some college language labs to use a much more limited version of a similar technique). Each lesson adds new material, but also reviews over older material in a spaced repetition format as well so you're always getting something new mixed in with the old to make new and interesting sentences for conversation.
SSiW also has modules for Manx, Cornish, Dutch, and Spanish.
I find that the two done hand in hand has helped me produce much faster results in language acquisition in an immersive manner than I have done previously and with much less effort.
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- robingoch
- hawthorn
- The Hamish Macbeth series By M.C.Beaton has superstitions of highlanders
- Mari Lwyd
- Siôn Corn
- Geiriadur Prifysgol Cymru (1923) by J. Glyn Davies
- Folklore of West and Mid Wales by John Ceredig Davies
- Welsh Folk Customs by Trefor Owen
- Welsh Folklore and Folk-Custom by T Gwynn Jones
- Wirt Sykes including a volume on British Goblins
- John Rhys
- Welsh Folklore: Folktales & Legends of North Wales (1896) by Elias Owen
- Calan Mai
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Recorded in Tregaron(?) on Christmas Eve 1964, a wonderful example of the Welsh Midwinter Tradition of The Mari Lwyd. Usually performed around Christmas and New Year, this luck-bringing ritual has recently been enjoying a revival in some parts of Wales after becoming virtually extinct during the first part of the Twentieth Century.
The Mari Lwyd, an adorned horse's skull, is accompanied by several participants, who go from door to door, engaging in a light hearted 'battle of wits' through song with the occupant of the house, in the hope of gaining admittance and being rewarded with cake and ale!
Reminiscent of the idea of battle rap, but in a different cultural tradition.
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in the first public appearance of Siôn Corn (in Glyn Davies’ 'Cerddi Huw Puw"), he is described as a “rather benevolent spook”) himself! His basis seems to be a possibly family tradition concerning a pleasant bogeyman living up their family chimney, whose main interest seemed to be getting children to go to bed early, til he was introduced to a wider public.
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(Note that although 'n/yn here is not actually translated into English, it does act as a marker showing that the action is 'in progress', unfinished.
"yn" (or it's contraction "'n") is a marker in Welsh to indicate that the action of a verb is in progress or unfinished.
Example: Dw i'n hoffi coffi.
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glas is a very old word, and while the more modern gwyrdd is used for green, glas can in fact be both blue and green, depending on context. The idea behind glas is not so much a colour itself, but the attribute you’d give to plants that are alive. The opposite is llwyd, which is connected to “dead” things like rocks, so naturally you’d translate it as gray, but sometimes it’s used as brown, too. (Again, the Welsh word brown is much newer than llwyd.)
The older Welsh words 'glas' and 'llwyd' designate both colors (green/blue and gray/brown respectively) but also indicate the idea of 'being alive' (like plants) or 'dead' (like rocks).
These words can sometimes be translated differently than the more modern words gwyrdd (green), glas (blue), llwyd (grey), brown (brown).
Irish is somewhat similar, where 'glas' is green, but usually for the less vivid greens of the natural world (seaweed might be called 'glas') versus artificial vivid green (the green on the Irish flag would be 'uaine'). However a 'madra glas' is not a green or blue dog, but a grey one.
Glasgow / Glaschu (the place name) means "green hollow".
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Evaluations of the platform show that users who follow the avatar inmaking a gesture achieve more lasting learning than those who simply hear theword. Gesturing students also learn more than those who observe the gesture butdon’t enact it themselves.
Manuela Macedonia's research indicates that online learners who enact specific gestures as they learn words learn better and have longer retention versus simply hearing words. Students who mimic these gestures also learn better than those who only see the gestures and don't use them themselves.
How might this sort of teacher/avatar gesturing be integrated into online methods? How would students be encouraged to follow along?
Could these be integrated into different background settings as well to take advantage of visual memory?
Anecdotally, I remember some Welsh phrases from having watched Aran Jones interact with his cat outside on video or his lip syncing in the empty spaces requiring student responses. Watching the teachers lips while learning can be highly helpful as well.
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- Jan 2022
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The inventor of the original English version, Welsh-born software engineer Josh Wardle, created it during the pandemic to entertain his partner – a word game addict, as he told The New York Times.
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J.R.R. Tolkien purchased a copy of John Morris-Jones's (1864-1929) A Welsh Grammar when he was at Exeter.
https://archive.org/search.php?query=A%20Welsh%20grammar%20%3A%20historical%20and%20comparative
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J.R.R. Tolkien indicated that Welsh fairy tales "had bright color but no sense". Perhaps this is because they served a cultural and mnemonic purpose and not necessarily a storytelling one.
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- Dec 2021
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Cynefin® is Welsh for a “Place of Your Multiple Belongings,”
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- Nov 2021
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Over the years in academic settings I've picked up pieces of Spanish, French, Latin and a few odd and ends of other languages.
Six years ago we put our daughter into a dual immersion Japanese program (in the United States) and it has changed some of my view of how we teach and learn languages, a process which is also affected by my slowly picking up conversational Welsh using the method at https://www.saysomethingin.com/ over the past year and change, a hobby which I wish I had more targeted time for.
Children learn language through a process of contextual use and osmosis which is much more difficult for adults. I've found that the slowly guided method used by SSiW is fairly close to this method, but is much more targeted. They'll say a few words in the target language and give their English equivalents, then they'll provide phrases and eventually sentences in English and give you a few seconds to form them into the target language with the expectation that you try to say at least something, or pause the program to do your best. It's okay if you mess up even repeatedly, they'll say the correct phrase/sentence two times after which you'll repeat it again thus giving you three tries at it. They'll also repeat bits from one lesson to the next, so you'll eventually get it, the key is not to worry too much about perfection.
Things slowly build using this method, but in even about 10 thirty minute lessons, you'll have a pretty strong grasp of fluent conversational Welsh equivalent to a year or two of college level coursework. Your work on this is best supplemented with interacting with native speakers and/or watching television or reading in the target language as much as you're able to.
For those who haven't experienced it before I'd recommend trying out the method at https://www.saysomethingin.com/welsh/course1/intro to hear it firsthand.
The experience will give your brain a heavy work out and you'll feel mentally tired after thirty minutes of work, but it does seem to be incredibly effective. A side benefit is that over time you'll also build up a "gut feeling" about what to say and how without realizing it. This is something that's incredibly hard to get in most university-based or book-based language courses.
This method will give you quicker grammar acquisition and you'll speak more like a native, but your vocabulary acquisition will tend to be slower and you don't get any writing or spelling practice. This can be offset with targeted memory techniques and spaced repetition/flashcards or apps like Duolingo that may help supplement one's work.
I like some of the suggestions made in Lynne's post as I've been pecking away at bits of Japanese over time myself. There's definitely an interesting structure to what's going on, especially with respect to the kana and there are many similarities to what is happening in Japanese to the Chinese that she's studying. I'm also approaching it from a more traditional university/book-based perspective, but if folks have seen or heard of a SSiW repetition method, I'd love to hear about it.
Hopefully helpful by comparison, I'll mention a few resources I've found for Japanese that I've researched on setting out a similar path that Lynne seems to be moving.
Japanese has two different, but related alphabets and using an app like Duolingo with regular practice over less than a week will give one enough experience that trying to use traditional memory techniques may end up wasting more time than saving, especially if one expects to be practicing regularly in both the near and the long term. If you're learning without the expectation of actively speaking, writing, or practicing the language from time to time, then wholesale mnemotechniques may be the easier path, but who really wants to learn a language like this?
The tougher portion of Japanese may come in memorizing the thousands of kanji which can have subtly different meanings. It helps to know that there are a limited set of specific radicals with a reasonably delineable structure of increasing complexity of strokes and stroke order.
The best visualization I've found for this fact is the Complete Listing of the 214 Radicals and Major Variations from An Introduction to Japanese Kanji Calligraphy by Kunii Takezaki (Tuttle, 2005) which I copy below:
(Feel free to right click and view the image in another tab or download it and view it full size to see more detail.)
I've not seen such a chart in any of the dozens of other books I've come across. The numbered structure of increasing complexity of strokes here would certainly suggest an easier to build memory palace or songline.
I love this particular text as it provides an excellent overview of what is structurally happening in Japanese with lots of tidbits that are otherwise much harder won in reading other books.
There are many kanji books with various forms of what I would call very low level mnemonic aids. I've not found one written or structured by what I would consider a professional mnemonist. One of the best structured ones I've seen is A Guide to Remembering Japanese Characters by Kenneth G. Henshall (Tuttle, 1988). It's got some great introductory material and then a numbered list of kanji which would suggest the creation of a quite long memory palace/journey/songline.
Each numbered Kanji has most of the relevant data and readings, but provides some description about how the kanji relates or links to other words of similar shapes/meanings and provides a mnemonic hint to make placing it in one's palace a bit easier. Below is an example of the sixth which will give an idea as to the overall structure.
I haven't gotten very far into it yet, but I'd found an online app called WaniKani for Japanese that has some mnemonic suggestions and built-in spaced repetition that looks incredibly promising for taking small radicals and building them up into more easily remembered complex kanji.
I suspect that there are likely similar sources for these couple of books and apps for Chinese that may help provide a logical overall structuring which will make it easier to apply or adapt one's favorite mnemotechniques to make the bulk vocabulary memorization easier.
The last thing I'll mention I've found, that's good for practicing writing by hand as well as spaced repetition is a Kanji notebook frequently used by native Japanese speaking children as they're learning the levels of kanji in each grade. It's non-obvious to the English speaker, and took me a bit to puzzle out and track down a commercially printed one, even with a child in a classroom that was using a handmade version. The notebook (left to right and top to bottom) has sections for writing a big example of the learned kanji; spaces for the "Kun" and "On" readings; spaces for the number of strokes and the radical pieces; a section for writing out the stroke order as it builds up gradually; practice boxes for repeated practice of writing the whole kanji; examples of how to use the kanji in context; and finally space for the student to compose their own practice sentences using the new kanji.
Regular use and practice with these can be quite helpful for moving toward mastery.
I also can't emphasize enough that regularly and actively watching, listening, reading, and speaking in the target language with materials that one finds interesting is incredibly valuable. As an example, one of the first things I did for Welsh was to find a streaming television and radio that I want to to watch/listen to on a regular basis has been helpful. Regular motivation and encouragement is key.
I won't go into them in depth and will leave them to speak for themselves, but two of the more intriguing videos I've watched on language acquisition which resonate with some of my experiences are:
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- Oct 2021
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- Aug 2021
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In doing some work with Japanese, I’ve come across a Chrome browser extension called Mainichi which shows me a flashcard-like image and the related word in English and Japanese (with both associated kana) every time I open a new browser tab. Because I open dozens to hundreds of browser tabs a day it’s an easy way to review and even learn new words. (It also reminds me that I ought to be working on my next lesson instead of surfing the internet. :smile:)
I’m curious if anyone has seen anything like this for Welsh beyond the more focused use of flashcard technologies like Anki, Mnemosyne, et al?
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As far as we know, the earliest example of the nursery rhyme is in Nancy Cock’s Pretty Song Book for All Little Misses and Masters, circa 1780. Here are the opening lines: “Taffy was a Welshman, Taffy was a thief, / Taffy came to my house and stole a piece of beef.” The name “Taffy” may come from “Dafydd,” a Welsh name related to “David,” and the Taff, the river in Cardiff.
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- Jul 2021
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newyddion.s4c.cymru newyddion.s4c.cymru
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S4C has a news app. This looks intriguing.
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- Jun 2021
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<small><cite class='h-cite via'>ᔥ <span class='p-author h-card'>KevinMarks</span> in #indieweb 2021-06-25 (<time class='dt-published'>06/26/2021 01:52:39</time>)</cite></small>
IndieWeb + Welsh finally comes in handy! The Cwtch service Kevin Marks mentioned is the the Welsh word for "hug" or "cuddle" and cleverly has a heart shaped Celtic design for their logo. Kind of cute when you think about it. And speaking of opaque ids, if they're using a new protocol I hope they call it Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch....
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Useful in the near future for Middle and Old Welsh...
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Great description of a Welsh cake:
"Made like a scone, cooked like a pancake, eaten like a cookie"
Welsh Cakes:
- 8oz flour
- 4oz salted butter
- 4oz sugar
- 4oz currants
- 2 pinches of allspice (or nutmeg)
- 1 large egg
- splash of milk until the dough holds together
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- May 2021
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a "dwt" is a small person/thing (term of endearment)
sometimes "little dwt"
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"alright or what" as a greeting
- "alright" means hi/hello (in South Wales)
"Ychafi" - horrible or disgusting
cwtch is a Welsh hug
Conversation beginnings:
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"Tidy butt" as a response to how are you? (translates as good friend)
Baaard (sick)
bog snorkeling
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I'll meet you "now in a minute" (aka shortly)
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Good intro for new learners.
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Here's the video version of this article: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLQ6XlG0MQ4
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You don't have to be a Welsh speaker to realise these place names make Wales different.They connect us to our history and our shared identity.
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But, and this is a big but, replacing Welsh place names with English ones, just because some people can't pronounce them or they just don't like the sound of them, is not ok.It's deleting your cultural distinctiveness. Your heritage and the uniqueness of these British islands. It's getting rid of one of the oldest languages in Europe, one place name at a time.
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Place names and songlines together reminds me of a great BBC segment "Disappearing Welsh Names" I saw recently: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLQ6XlG0MQ4
It highlights by analogy the value of indigenous culture, knowledge, and creativity which the survival of songlines also provides us with. (It also saddens me because it starkly reminds me of all the knowledge and languages we've lost already.)
I've been learning Welsh since the pandemic started and just a few simple words of Welsh has given me a far greater appreciation of places in the UK and what they mean. It's helped not only to expand my vocabulary, but increased my creativity in creating local songlines. It's also made it much easier to learn to say and remember the town of Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch.
<table> <thead><tr> <th>Cymraeg</th> <th>Meaning</th> </tr> </thead> <tbody> <tr> <td>Aber</td> <td>Where one river flows into another body of water (example: Aberystwyth)</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Ban, Bannau</td> <td>Peak(s), beacon(s)</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Bron</td> <td>Breast of a hill</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Bryn</td> <td>Hill</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Caer</td> <td>Fort</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Cas</td> <td>Castle</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Crug</td> <td>Hill, tump</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Cwm</td> <td>Valley</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Derw, Deri</td> <td>Oaks</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Dinas</td> <td>Hill-fort</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Dyffryn</td> <td>Valley, vale</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Ffin</td> <td>Border, boundary</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Isaf</td> <td>Lower, lowest</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Llan</td> <td>Church, church land (often followed by the name of the saint to whom the church was dedicated, eg, Llangatwg - a place with a church dedicated to St Catwg)</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Morfa</td> <td>Salt-marsh</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Nant</td> <td>Brook, dingle</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Pont</td> <td>Bridge</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Porth</td> <td>Gate</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Rhos</td> <td>Moor</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Tyle</td> <td>Hill-side, ascent</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Uchaf</td> <td>Upper, highest</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Ystrad</td> <td>Vale</td> </tr> </tbody> </table>It also uncovers quirks of place names like Breedon on the Hill which translates from Brythonic, Saxon, and Modern English to "Hill Hill on the Hill" and crystalizes, as if in amber, the fact that Brythonic, Saxon, and English speakers all conjoined for a time on a hill in England. Similarly there's also Barnack Hills in England which translates from old Celtic (barr), Scottish Gaelic (cnoc) and English as "flat topped hill hill hills". It's almost hillarious.
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Article about the renaming of Welsh place names into English which erases culture and history.
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The Welsh name for Snowdon, Yr Wyddfa, means grave and is pronounced like "er with-va".The story goes in a legend that the giant Rhita Gawr, the king of Wales, was buried under a cairn of stones on the summit of the mountain, following a battle with King Arthur.It is said that the giant defeated 30 kings of Britain, taking their beards to create a cloak of the beards, reaching from his shoulder to the floor.
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Resources:
- Duolingo
- Routledge book on Colloquial Welsh by Gareth King
- S4C on TV or online BBC iplayer or website
- BBC Radio Cymry
- BBC Bite Size
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penguin - pen (head) guin (white)
bard - bardd (poet)
Avon - afon (river)
corgi - cor (dwarf) + ci (dog)
flannel - gwlanen (fabric from Wales)
coombe/combe - cwm (valley)
balderdash - baldorddu (noisy talk or chatter)
adder - neidr (snake)
crockery - crochan (cauldron)
iron - haearn (both steam instrument and the element)
crumpet - crempog (crepe/pancake)
London - Llundain (maybe from llyn + dain or pool of the river)
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<small><cite class='h-cite via'>ᔥ <span class='p-author h-card'>John Naughton</span> in Tuesday 6 April, 2021 | Memex 1.1 (<time class='dt-published'>04/12/2021 21:27:21</time>)</cite></small>
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This place name in Welsh translates to "peat moorland"
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- Mar 2021
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Dwi ddim yn cofio pa ddiwrnod ydd heddiw. I don't remember which day it is today.
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- Feb 2021
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This looks like the divergence of the idea of fox and vixen could appear here with mutations in these languages then later entering English.
The pronunciation difference of ff and f also could factor here.
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- Oct 2020
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"Iechyd da i bob Cymro, twll tin i bob Saes" Good health to every Welshmen, asshole to every Englishman
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Sioned Davies is Chair of Welsh at Cardiff University. Her special interest is the interplay between orality and literacy, together with the performance aspects of medieval Welsh narrative.
Oh! This is fascinating. Perhaps some interesting tidbits for my growing theory about the borders of orality and literacy could be hiding in some of her research?
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However, if Welsh does not yet possess a spoken standard, it does possess a literary standard which can be traced back to the translation of the Bible by Bishop WIlliam Morgan in 1588, which in turn is based on the language of the medieval court poets who were the heirs of the Cynfeirdd, the earl poets Aneirin and Taliesin. These lived in the sixth century AD and described battles which took place in today's Scotland and Northern England [...]
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The Mabinogion, translated by Sioned DaviesIn You Goddess! we use “supernatural female” as a definition of goddess and this allows us to include the story of Blodeuwedd, who was created out of flowers by a wizard as a wife for his friend, but who kicks over the traces and finds her own partner. Bloeuwedd appears in this medieval collection of Welsh stories. The first English translation was published in the 19th century by the linguist, go-getter and driver of the Welsh renaissance, Lady Charlotte Guest. This 2007 translation by Sioned Davies is a fantastic contemporary version. In the past Blodeuwedd has been taken as a cautionary tale about adultery, but to modern readers she appears as a floral rebel breaking free from male control. Sadly things don’t end well for her and her metamorphosis from vegetable to human ends with her wizard enemy turning her into an owl. She lives on as the inspiration for Alan Garner’s The Owl Service.
This has been on my list for a bit. I'm also reminded that I ought to get back to The Celtic Myths: A Guide to the Ancient Gods and Legends by Miranda Aldhouse-Green
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Cymraeg Byw was promoted with the intention of facilitating thelearning of Welsh particularly among adults, and providing a stable ‘plat-form’ from which they could progress to fluency – and inevitably, as withLiterary Welsh, the loser once again was the native speech of ordinaryWelsh speakers, dismissed by implication as irrelevant. The counter argu-ment, now all the stronger for hindsight, must be that, as with all languages,the aim of the serious learner is competence in the living language; if thatmeans coping with dialect variation, then so be it – it has to be faced sooneror later, and it may as well be sooner.
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Literary Welsh, on the other hand, is no-one’s native language. All thosewho know how to read it, whether Welsh speakers or not, have been taught.In this sense it is an artificial language – consciously planned and designedto standardize the written language at the time of the translation of theBible into Welsh (sixteenth century), and by and large with a deliberatedisregard for the native speech of ordinary people. Its subsequentundoubted success as the medium of a prolific literature has been at theexpense of Colloquial Welsh, neglected and relentlessly disparaged by apowerful (Welsh-speaking) minority who had much to gain from puttingthe main means of expression of the cultural identity out of the reach ofthe majority. In this way a sense of inferiority was engendered among ordi-nary Welsh speakers with regard to their language – one which persists tothis day with native speakers routinely dismissing their own spokenlanguage as something ‘inferior’ (i.e. to the artificial Literary Welsh) and‘not proper Welsh’. Only recently has this situation begun to be redressed.
Interesting distinction here between the literary and the colloquial and problems it has created.
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Within the Celtic family, Welsh has as its closest relatives: Breton (Welshname Llydaweg), spoken in Brittany – estimates of number of speakersvary, but probably somewhat under half a million active users; and Cornish(Cernyweg), extinct since the late eighteenth century, though recently‘resurrected’ by enthusiasts. More distantly related are Irish (Gwyddeleg),Scots Gaelic (Gaeleg yr Alban) and the extinct Manx (Manaweg, whoselast native speaker died in 1974). Welsh, Breton and Cornish constitute theBrythonic group, while the others form the Goidelic group. There arestrong similarities within each group, and considerable differences betweenthe two. All six languages share certain basic characteristics which markthem out as Celtic languages – notably the mutation system (see §§3–12),and inflected prepositions (see §446).
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Fynes-Clinton, O.H. (1913) The Welsh Vocabulary of the Bangor District.Oxford: OUP. Reprint (two vols): Llanerch Publishers, Felinfach (1995).
Downloaded a copy of the 1913 edition from archive.org.
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