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www.cru.org www.cru.org
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“Discipling” someone is, to use a more recognizable term, mentoring someone in how to follow Christ and share the good news that people can have a relationship with God.
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- Nov 2024
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math.stackexchange.com math.stackexchange.com
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Did anyone else notice this question is basically how different notions of "approximate equality" are only approximately equal?
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radanskoric.com radanskoric.com
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The affinity to using meta-programming in Ruby is going to vary a lot between different development teams and it’s a very important factor in deciding whether to adopt gradual typing as the two work against each other.
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On most real life projects, the speed of development is easily worth an occasional corner case bug with an unexpected nil value … except when it isn’t.
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If I decide to add it, which solution should I pick, battle tested Sorbet or core team endorsed RBS?
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Will gradual typing be supported long term or is it a fad? Will this be an abandoned investment?
annotation meta: may need new tag: - Is it worth the investment? - Is it just a passing fad?
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github.com github.com
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arstechnica.com arstechnica.com
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arstechnica.com arstechnica.com
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confabulation
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But that label has grown controversial as the topic becomes mainstream because some people feel it anthropomorphizes AI models (suggesting they have human-like features) or gives them agency (suggesting they can make their own choices) in situations where that should not be implied.
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store.steampowered.com store.steampowered.com
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innovative idea
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www.dekudeals.com www.dekudeals.com
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“There are a lot of people who mistakenly think intelligibility is the standard. ‘Oh, you knew what I was saying.’ Well, that’s not the standard. That’s a really bottom-of-the-barrel standard,” he says. “People who are concerned with English usage usually want to have their words taken seriously, either as writers or as speakers. And if you don’t use the language very well, then it hard to have people take your ideas seriously. That’s just the reality.”
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Some linguists would argue that there’s no point fighting against slips like that—that language is forever unfixed and deviations should simply be observed and even appreciated—or that it’s silliness to tell people to follow rules that are as arbitrary as the meaning assigned to a certain jumble of letters. But Garner is not one of them.
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Then again that makes little sense when trying to account for why people use the less-standard preventative instead of preventive or irregardless instead of regardless, he notes.
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These days someone might even try to correct you if, in an attempt to note someone was being (overly) humble, you said they were self-depreciating.
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But the corruption has become so common that using the original today might not only stop a conversation in its tracks but cause unpleasant face-scrunching. Per Garner, spitting image is now 23 times more commonly used than its precursor.
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Have you ever said you felt nauseous? In the traditional sense that would mean you felt like you were capable of causing others to woof cookies, not that you were feeling sick to your own stomach—much along the lines of how poisonous and poisoned work.
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Young people today, he says, are now dropping the “from” and simply saying they “graduated college,”
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www.myenglishpages.com www.myenglishpages.com
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justpublishingadvice.com justpublishingadvice.com
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english.stackexchange.com english.stackexchange.com
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www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com
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I logged in to my social media accounts.
Good example showing it's "in to" and not "into".
See https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/5302/log-in-to-or-log-into-or-login-to
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ruben.verborgh.org ruben.verborgh.org
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At the same time, computer scientists and engineers need to deliver the technological burden of proof that decentralized personal data networks can scale globally, and that they can provide people with a better experience than centralized platforms.
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This unprecedented openness has inspired large-scale permissionless innovation and unbounded creativity
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Fortunately, we do not have to agree on everything. Linked Data enables layered agreements, in which a few rules need to be adopted by many, and sets of additional rules are agreed upon by smaller groups as required.
- we do not have to agree on everything
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Freedom of course always comes at a cost: what constitutes a victory for personal rights and freedom of speech also facilitates the spread of illegal messages, since decentralized networks make it harder to control what information is exchanged. Legality is of course a tricky matter, as some countries instate laws that prevent their citizens from voicing opinions that would be legal elsewhere.
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hbr.org hbr.org
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www.codesimplicity.com www.codesimplicity.com
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www.cnet.com www.cnet.com
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Usernames will need to be unique and have two numbers appended to the end of them, which Signal states was done in order to help keep usernames "egalitarian and to minimize spoofing."
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www.androidcentral.com www.androidcentral.com
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gitlab.com gitlab.com
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before after (current behavior) after (expected behavior)
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gitlab.com gitlab.com
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That. Is the coolest. Shortcut. Ever. 💥 🚀
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answers.microsoft.com answers.microsoft.com
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I am just surprised that there is no clear official name for such a popular and well known convention. Internet searching seems to indicate that the common term used is "Red Squiggly Line", but it seems like a term quickly made-up just to describe something for which we know no name. There's a technical name for the dot on an "i" for goodness sake (tittle).
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www.merriam-webster.com www.merriam-webster.com
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The seeming luxury of having multiple words to choose from is not sufficient to offset the lingering fear that no matter which word you pick it will be the wrong one, causing people to silently laugh at you and judge both you and your grammar school teachers
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The word people is best not used with words of number, in place of persons. If of ‘six people’ five went away, how many ‘people’ would be left? Answer: one people.
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en.wikipedia.org en.wikipedia.org
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www.zeffy.com www.zeffy.com
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stevepolito.design stevepolito.design
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gitlab.com gitlab.com
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Is that a false negative
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github.com github.com
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Enhances ActionMailer to support the :cache delivery method, which behaves like :test, except that the deliveries are marshalled to a temporary cache file, thus making them available to other processes.
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www.reddit.com www.reddit.com
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I control my emails. I can grep them, migrate them, back them up however I want, I can choose who gets through the spam filter. And this is my most sensitive data - password resets, personal emails, personal info - honestly I'm surprised more selfhosters don't do it.
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www.reddit.com www.reddit.com
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Todoist for quick notes and todo lists. I'm also using my own TodoistToTxt (available on github) script running every minute to generate a todo.txt file out of Todoist inbox, which is rendered on PC with Rainmeter.
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burtlo.github.io burtlo.github.io
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There are two things that I enjoy: a test framework written in my own Domain Specific Language (DSL) that is easily understood by all those on a project and the ability for all participants to easily read, search, and view the tests.
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I was continually pushing out the documents to those interested
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github.com github.com
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This tools bridges the gap of having feature files found in your source code and true documentation that your team, product owners and stakeholders can use.
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As you all noticed I haven't given too much attention to this project in recent years, which I regret, but realistically I probably won't be the best maintainer given I haven't been using Ruby for years now, lost the contact with the ecosystem whatsoever.
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bugs.ruby-lang.org bugs.ruby-lang.org
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The fact that many here are maintainers of Ruby implementations also has a biased effect on new features, as they might represent a burden on them. I'm not saying this is a bad thing, I love the diversity of points of view that this brings! OTOH, it's fair that people that do take time to discuss things here have a bigger influence on the direction that Ruby follows.
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I frequently call for name compromises (let's stop on one name and move forward instead of five more years of discussion).
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chromewebstore.google.com chromewebstore.google.com
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https://www.npmjs.com/package/open-in-editor-connect
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"astronaut" beautifully translates to "star sailor."
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true roots of "helicopter" are "helix" (meaning spiral, as in double helix) and "pteron" (meaning wing, as in pterodactyl, wing finger). So, "helicopter" literally means "spiral wing" – how perfect!
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concourse-ci.org concourse-ci.org
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Built in the open Concourse's RFC process and governance model invite anyone to become a contributor, developing the project roadmap by collaborating in the open.
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devblogs.microsoft.com devblogs.microsoft.com
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This is a bit awkward since TypeScript already defines its own thing called Iterator purely for type-checking. So due to this unfortunate name clash, TypeScript needs to introduce a separate type to describe these native/built-in iterable iterators.
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shopify.github.io shopify.github.io
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The extension runs a command using your shell’s interactive mode, so that version managers configured in files such as ~/.zshrc are picked up automatically. The command then exports the environment information into JSON, so that we can inject it into the NodeJS process and appropriately set the Ruby version and gem installation paths.
Makes sense, but some of these solutions sure seem like roundabout/unideal solutions
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hash = super if defined?(super)
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www.youtube.com www.youtube.com
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www.dexerto.com www.dexerto.com
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Daily Wire held screenings at universities across the US, but some of those efforts were hindered when Eventbrite took down listings for screenings due to violations of its community guidelines. Article continues after ad “We do not permit events, content, or creators that promote or encourage hate, violence, or harassment towards others and/or oneself,” the company said.
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pkmsummit.com pkmsummit.com
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medium.com medium.com
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This method allows individuals to manage and interlink their information more effectively by creating interconnected nodes, known as knowledge graphs.
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GPL "infects" other parts of a system to combat a work-around which was used to violate the software freedom of the user, by firewalling sections of GPL'ed code from the rest of the system.
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The point of GPL licenses is to protect the user of the software, not the developer. If you want "protection" as a developer, use MIT (disclaimer of warranty). GPL "infects" other parts of a system to combat a work-around which was used to violate the software freedom of the user, by firewalling sections of GPL'ed code from the rest of the system. If you don't care about your users' software freedom in the first place, then (L)GPL is the wrong choice.
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opensource.stackexchange.com opensource.stackexchange.com
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In practice, tracking all authors in all copyright notices is quite cumbersome. Instead, often only the original author is credited here even when copyright is shared with additional contributors. A more reasonable approach is to credit all authors collectively, e.g. as “the FooProject contributors” or “Original Author and others”. However, I am not sure whether that results in a valid copyright notice as the copyright holders must be clearly recognizable.
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The other reason to update these notices is if there are new authors. Typically, this is done by adding a new copyright line for each set of authors, with the most recent on top. For example: Copyright 2016–2018 George Copyright 1999, 2007–2016 Fred Adding a new line is sensible since many open-source licenses require that existing copyright notices are kept intact – so you must not update them in any way. And in the above example, adding George to Fred's copyright notice would be misleading since George did not publish any of their work in 1999 and Fred didn't publish in 2018.
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A free program allows you to tinker with it to make it do what you want (or cease to do something you dislike). Tinkering with software may sound ridiculous if you are accustomed to proprietary software as a sealed box, but in the Free World it's a common thing to do, and a good way to learn programming. Even the traditional American pastime of tinkering with cars is obstructed because cars now contain nonfree software.
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Other kinds of works are also used for practical activities, including recipes for cooking, educational works such as textbooks, reference works such as dictionaries and encyclopedias, fonts for displaying paragraphs of text, circuit diagrams for hardware for people to build, and patterns for making useful (not merely decorative) objects with a 3D printer. Since these are not software, the free software movement strictly speaking doesn't cover them; but the same reasoning applies and leads to the same conclusion: these works should carry the four freedoms.
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With all four freedoms, the users fully control the program.
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computer users' freedom—for users to control the software they use, rather than vice versa
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The computer will run, without prejudice, whatever software you install in it, and let that software do whatever its code says to do.
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This means that computer does not impose one particular service rather than another, or one protocol rather than another. It does not require the user to get anyone else's permission to communicate via a certain protocol.
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The computer will communicate, without prejudice, through whatever protocol your installed software implements, with whatever users and whatever other networked computers you direct it to communicate with.
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Any software that can be replaced by someone else, the user must be empowered to replace.
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However, the presence of nonfree software in the computer is an obstacle to verifying that the computer is loyal, or making sure it remains so.
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The computer always permits you to analyze the operation of a program that is running.
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This entails that the computer rejects remote attestation, that is, that it does not permit other computers to determine over the network whether your computer is running one particular software load. Remote attestation gives web sites the power to compel you to connect to them only through an application with DRM that you can't break, denying you effective control over the software you use to communicate with them.
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When the computer communicates using any given protocol, it will support doing so, without prejudice, via whatever code you choose (assuming the code implements the intended protocol), and it will do nothing to help any other part of the Internet to distinguish which code you are using or what changes you may have made in it, or to discriminate based on your choice.
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Creative Commons NonCommercial licenses (by-nc-*) do not support the OD 1.1#8., “No Discrimination Against Fields of Endeavor”, as they exclude usage in commercial activities.
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Opponents often state that this technology will be used primarily to enforce digital rights management policies (imposed restrictions to the owner) and not to increase computer security.
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The law in many countries allows users certain rights over data whose copyright they do not own (including text, images, and other media), often under headings such as fair use or public interest. Depending on jurisdiction, these may cover issues such as whistleblowing, production of evidence in court, quoting or other small-scale usage, backups of owned media, and making a copy of owned material for personal use on other owned devices or systems. The steps implicit in trusted computing have the practical effect of preventing users exercising these legal rights.
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There is the handy rails server -d that starts a development Rails as a daemon. The annoying thing is that the scheduler as seen above is started in the main process that then gets forked and daemonized. The rufus-scheduler thread (and any other thread) gets lost, no scheduling happens.
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I don't expect everyone to read every single line of the code for a project they are trying to use, that isn't very reasonable. What I do see though, is that a lot developers have a mental barrier to actually opening up the source code for the project they are trying to use. They will read the documentation, run the tests, use the example code, but when they are faced with a problem that could be solved through a one or two line change in the source code, they shut down completely. The point is that you shouldn't be afraid to jump into the source code. Even if you don't fully understand the source code, in many cases you should be able to isolate your issue to a specific block. If you can reference this block ( or line numbers ) when opening up your support request, it will help the author better understand your problem.
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On many occasions, I've opened up requests for support in the form of a Github pull request. This way, I am telling the author: I have found a potential problem with your library, here is how I fixed it for my circumstance, here is the code I used for reference. You get extra internet points if you open the pull request with: "I don't expect this pull request to get merged, but I wanted to you show you what I did".
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Providing your own diagnosis might be helpful sometimes, but always state the symptoms. The diagnosis is an optional extra, and not an alternative to giving the symptoms.
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If you give the programmer a long list of inputs and actions, and they fire up their own copy of the program and nothing goes wrong, then you haven't given them enough information.
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gist.github.com gist.github.com
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Try to avoid saying "It doesn't work", sentences like "it doesn't produce any output" are far better.
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That's not enough to help you.
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pythonspeed.com pythonspeed.com
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In particular, one thing that fork() doesn’t copy is threads. Any threads running in the parent process do not exist in the child process.
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it’s time for a deep-dive into Python brokenness and the pain that is POSIX system programming, using exciting and not very convincing shark-themed metaphors!
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A conundrum wherein fork() copying everything is a problem, and fork() not copying everything is also a problem.
may not actually be a dilemma, if there is a 3rd option...
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stackoverflow.com stackoverflow.com
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Disable all observers in your test suite by default. They should not be complicating your model tests because they should have separate concerns anyway. You don't need to unit test that observers actually fire, because ActiveRecord's test suite does that, and your integration tests will cover it.
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I emphatically disagree with BlueFish about observers being difficult to properly unit test. This is precisely the biggest point that distinguishes them from lifecycle callbacks: you can test observers in isolation, and doing so discourages you from falling into many of the state- and order-heavy design pitfalls BlueFish refers to (which again I think is more often true of lifecycle callbacks).
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Rails' observers were partly inspired by aspect-oriented programming -- they're about cross-cutting concerns. If you're putting business logic in observers that is tightly coupled to the models they're observing, you're doing it wrong IMO.
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- testing
- testing: only test the thing you're trying to test
- observer pattern
- separation of concerns
- testing: avoid over-testing: don't test the same thing in many different tests
- problems
- lifecycle callbacks
- aspect-oriented programming
- good policy/practice/procedure
- software development: code organization: where does this code belong?
- tightly coupled
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english.stackexchange.com english.stackexchange.com
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I've been a UK resident for over 70 years, have two degrees from a very well known university, and find both zeros and zeroes quite acceptable as the plural form. So our perceptions are different. Do we toss a coin, or see who can shout the louder? ... Dictionaries are less open to subjective bias than individuals because of the averaging effect of carefully controlled large surveys (and acceptability is usage driven). It's good to realise that personal preferences may not be the best basis for judging correctness.
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Note that dictionaries document the (current, at the time of going to press) usage of language, they aren't authoritative. 'Correct' is what is in common usage and largely understood to be correct, even if that contradicts a dictionary (in which case the dictionary is probably out-of-date).
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