for - Federico Faggin (FF) - analytic idealism - consciousness - Deep Humanity

summary - This is an good talk that introduces Federico Faggin's (FF) ideas about consciousness from the perspective of analytic idealism, the idea that consciousness is the most fundamental aspect of reality and that materialism is an epiphenomena of consciousness, not the other way around - Bernado Kastrup's organization, Essentia Foundation invited FF to the Netherlands to give a talking tour of his new - book "Irreducible" - https://www.collectiveinkbooks.com/essentia-books/our-books/irreducible-consciousness-life-computers-human-nature - and they visited the prestigous semiconductor design company ASML' facilities, - https://www.asml.com/en - where this insightful talk was delivered - FF reconciles scientific explanation with the hard problem of consciousness and our ordinary, everyday experience of consciousness - FF's theory offers - a good western, science-based explanatory framework that is consistent with - the experiential and theoretical framework from the east - from - Tibetan Buddhist - Zen Buddhist - Vedic - and other ancient ideas of emptiness<br /> - This framing heals the divide between science and religion that has created a meaning crisis in modernity - and by so doing, also addresses a core issue of the meaning crisis - mortality salience

Joy quoting Nietzsche

Some do, yes, but it's interesting to note that when Bill Joy was writing this a strong anti-science movement was afoot in the United States of America.

• for: science and religion, flat earth misconception, DH, Deep Humanity - science and religion - historical relationship

• summary

  • Dutch historian Jochem Boodt explains how fake news isn't something new, but as old as the history books!
  • Science and religion were not antagonist in early Western history, as is believed today. This was fake news fabricated in a fascinating way.
  • He uses the example of the common misconception that before Columbus, people thought the earth was flat.

• for: narratives - science and religion, stories - science and religion, symbolosphere, meaningverse, multi-meaningverse

• comment

  • Harari is saying that both science and the diversity of religions are both telling a story. Both are fictional in the deeper sense that they are all stories and stories are all created by humans in the symbolosphere
  • Science, or religion, cannot be found merely in the books that write about them, no matter how many libraries or harddrives of 1s and 0s they take up
  • How do we know this? Easy. If an ant or butterfly or sunflower is exposed to a physical book or pdf on on ANY scientific subject, or ANY religious topic, will it understand it? No, of course not. Only a human fully conditioned into the symbolosphere will be able to interact with that physical or informational object and get something meaningful out of it. That is because we have all learned to co-participate in a collective meaningverse.

• for: science - awakening wonder, Deep Humanity, adjacency, adjacency - science - religion

• for: science and religion, Newton - religion, science and religion - Bob Inglis, CHD

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• comment

  • don't forget Isaac Newton!
• reference
  • https://hyp.is/go?url=https%3A%2F%2Frsc.byu.edu%2Fconverging-paths-truth%2Fbrief-survey-sir-isaac-newtons-views-religion&group=world

• for: spirituality and science, spirituality and sustainability, spirituality - missing link, Isaac Newton
• title: Is spirituality the missing pillar of sustainability?
• author: Tom Greenwood
• date: Aug. 24, 2023

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  • • for: quote, quote - Isaac Newton, quote - spirituality and science, quote - science and religion, quote - spirituality - science, quote - religion - science
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  • When I wrote my treatise about our system
  • I had an eye upon such principles as might work with considering men for the belief of a Deity;
  • and nothing can rejoice me more than to find it useful for that purpose..
• author: Isaac Newton
• reference
  • Isaac Newton, Principia, ed. Stephen Hawking (Philadelphia: Running Press, 2002), 426–27.
• author: Isaac Newton
• reference
  • Isaac Newton, Original letter from Isaac Newton to Richard Bentley, 189.R.4.47, ff. 4A-5, Trinity College Library, Cambridge, UK; found on the Newton Project website: http://www.newtonproject.sussex.ac.uk/view/texts/normalized/THEM00254; spelling and punctuation modernized.

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  • This Being governs all things,
    • not as the soul of the world,
    • but as Lord over all.
  • . . . The Supreme God is a Being eternal, infinite, absolutely perfect
  • . . . and from his true dominion it follows that the true God is a
    • living,
    • intelligent, and
    • powerful Being.
  • . . . He is not
    • eternity and
    • infinity, -but
    • eternal and
    • infinite;
  • he is not
    • duration or
    • space,
  • but he
    • endures and
    • is present.
• author: Isaac Newton
• reference
  • Isaac Newton, Principia, ed. Stephen Hawking (Philadelphia: Running Press, 2002), 426–27.

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• quote
  • Does it not appear from phenomena
  • that there is a Being
    • incorporeal,
    • living,
    • intelligent,
    • omnipresent,
  • who in infinite space
  • sees the things themselves intimately, and
  • thoroughly perceives them, and
  • comprehends them wholly.
• author: Isaac Newton
• reference
  • Isaac Newton, Opticks, 4th ed. (London: William Innys, 1730), 344; spelling and punctuation modernized.

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  • Whence is it that Nature doth nothing in vain?
  • And whence arises all that order and beauty which we see in the world?
  • Was the eye contrived without skill in optics?
  • And the ear without knowledge of sounds?
• author: Isaac Newton
• reference
  • Isaac Newton, Opticks, 4th ed. (London: William Innys, 1730), 344; spelling and punctuation modernized.

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• title: A Brief Survey of Sir Isaac Newton's Views on Religion
• author: Steven E. Jones
• source:
  • https://rsc.byu.edu/converging-paths-truth/brief-survey-sir-isaac-newtons-views-religion
• comment
  • Newton was a serious theological scholar who was driven to use science to validate his conception of God
  • Newton's scientific work is therefore a testament to the union between the deepest, common aspiration and motivations for science and religion, that is universal wonder of being

he = Mark Noll

This is a good alignment showing that at the deepest level, the fundamental aspiration and values of science and religion are the same: interconnectedness.

Im, H., Wang, P., & Chen, C. (2021). The Partisan Mask: Political Orientation, Collectivism, and Religiosity Predict Mask Use During COVID-19. PsyArXiv. https://doi.org/10.31234/osf.io/9s58f

Rigoli, F. (2020). The link between coronavirus, anxiety, and religious beliefs in the United States and United Kingdom. https://doi.org/10.31234/osf.io/wykeq

Another example of a scion in academia using racial ideas to launch his career to prominence.

This also provides a schism for a break between science and religion which we're still heavily dealing with in American culture.

This made me chuckle a bit. Collins challenges the tension between religion and science here. It's worth noting how it is during the Victorian period that England's Christianity was put to the test the most because of famous science figures of its time like Darwin.

Jackson, Joshua Conrad, Katarzyna Jasko, Samantha Abrams, Tyler Atkinson, Evan Balkcom, Arie Kruglanski, Kurt Gray, and Jamin Halberstadt. ‘Believers Use Science and Religion, Non-Believers Use Science Religiously’. Preprint. PsyArXiv, 19 August 2020. https://doi.org/10.31234/osf.io/536w7.

Basu, A., Roy, A., Hazra, A. K., & Pramanick, K. (2020). Analysis of youths’ perspective in India on and during the pandemic of Covid-19 [Preprint]. SocArXiv. https://doi.org/10.31235/osf.io/4qhgd

McPhetres, J., Jong, J., & Zuckerman, M. (2020, June 24). Religious Americans Have Less Positive Attitudes Toward Science, But This Does Not Extend To Other Cultures. https://doi.org/10.1177/1948550620923239

Weinberger-Litman, S. L., Litman, L., Rosen, Z., Rosmarin, D. H., & Rosenzweig, C. (2020, June 8). A look at the first quarantined community in the United States: Response of religious communal organizations and implications for public health during the COVID-19 pandemic. https://doi.org/10.31234/osf.io/ujns9

Zmigrod, L., Eisenberg, I. W., Bissett, P., Robbins, T. W., & Poldrack, R. (2020, April 14). A Data-Driven Analysis of the Cognitive and Perceptual Attributes of Ideological Attitudes. https://doi.org/10.31234/osf.io/dgaxr

Psychiatry, T. L. (2020). Mental health and COVID-19: Change the conversation. The Lancet Psychiatry, 0(0). https://doi.org/10.1016/S2215-0366(20)30194-2

Paracelsus (1200-1280) was a medieval Swiss theologian and physician interested in alchemy and astrology, and a pioneer in the medical revolution of the German Renaissance. Albertus Magnus (1193-1280) was a German Catholic Dominican friar and bishop. Known as Albert the Great or later Saint Albert, Magnus also wrote on alchemy and was the first to comment on the writings of Aristotle and the teachings of Muslim academics, notably Avicenna and Averroes.

I think this meaning is that "Resurrection" is the return of a Manifestation in another human frame. And this is stated to be clearly more glorious than the literal interpretations of past scripture.

Why is it clearly more glorious?

1. Everyone has access. And it leads to empowerment.
2. It allows us to keep science, which is pretty awesome.
3. It doesn't allow us to just wait for the rapture - see point 1 about empowerment.
4. It allows us to see all religions as united in spirit.
5. Related to point 3 and 4, it allows us to unite with non-religious people.
6. All of this without "doing violence to the facts".

Finally an open-source, open access option for sharing research!