Bad advice. Safe to fail probes are not 'unserious', bc of aiming to limit the downside should they fail. The point is having the probe to explore 'cheaply' within the actual context of work. First part, the interest should be genuine, is completely true. It does not mean you can't do risk containment though. Probes are real and safe simultaneously. [[Probe proberend handelen 20201111162752]]

Not having an upfront determined structure, is not the same as 'making notes without structure'. Structure is emergent and earned working with the notes (linking, grouping, adding to an index / MoC etc.)

Also: not all structure needs to be in your note taking system. Many of my structures are in my own head. I know how I phrase things, and do things, I'm pretty predictable to myself. That is a structure to work with.

I think the Second Brain metaphor is getting to the point of creating damage, not promise.

Offloading is as old as Cro Magnon, pkm for the ages. [[Increasing Brain Capacity by Offloading to the Environment 20040615133233]]

yes, vgl [[Communicating with Slip Boxes by Niklas Luhmann]] as convo partner. Using a local LLM makes total sense to me.

That's all there is to it indeed. Jot a note, perhaps add a link / choose a single physical location.

Odd piece, where Ben Werdmüller says he is a bad note taker, and then describes what is actually ok note taking. Seems assumptions get in the way vgl https://www.zylstra.org/blog/2025/11/warning-tacit-assumptions-may-derail-pkm-conversations/

States that Luhmann's bibliographic cards had his own indexing on the back. Vgl with my own immediate annotations I keep in a book note.

Like the phrase. Vgl [[Kunst-artefact is (tussen)uitkomst proces 20140505070232]] any artefact is a (intermediate) output of ongoing process. Vgl [[Artefacten uit kennis met methoden 20220215202011]], artefacts brought forth from K through methods.

The page confuses tools and content imo, but this is a workable list of attributes. 'Grows selectively public' is the key imo. #openvraag #webbeheer What can I do to improve the note to webpage pipeline I have but seldom use?

yes, but 'finished article' never was K. Artefacts may be carriers.

[[Steven Garrity]] coining 'resumability' , where a device just continues on where you were previously. Mentions e-readers as such devices (and paper books with a bookmark), a smartphone and apps like Slack. The latter is not true I think, it scrolls fwd to newest.

Thinking about resumability in terms of notes / pkm. Obsidian is always where I was previously e.g. A type of ratchet for task execution.

Quote David Lynch https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catching_the_Big_Fish continued.

Mentions examples of set-ups for different activities. Vgl spaces on laptop. Vgl my home office vs attic space etc.

Vgl [[%index coachingboekje]] wrt set-ups I need/want/woud like to have or list of set-ups currently available to me.

Quote David Lynch https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catching_the_Big_Fish continued.

Not having a set-up ready when an idea hits means no agency. Mentions festering a type of powerlessness, vgl [[%I Networked Agency]] wrt methods and tools for various things. Also vgl making note of any idea in 3Ideeenkweekkas

Image by [[Harold Jarche]] plotting 14 modes of learning from [[You Can Do Anything by James Mangan]] 1936 self-help book on his Seek / Sense / Share

Maria Popova https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maria_Popova http://themarginalian.org/

[[You Can Do Anything by James Mangan]] 1936 review: 14 ways to acquire K. https://www.themarginalian.org/2013/04/22/14-ways-to-acquire-knowledge-james-mangan-1936/ "prolific self-help guru and famous eccentric" https://archive.org/details/bwb_W8-ANG-369/ can be borrowed.

Jorge Arango talks about his writing process. He actually co-authored a book on Information Architecture in 2015. This vid more about his latest. uses lots of paper notebooks Mentions 3 (obvious) phases in his non-fiction writing research structuring writing Says all three req diff tools. (he uses Obsidian f research)

Stage 1 research, vague idea about what topic, (s paper notebooks, index/sequence them) His book duly noted is on this phase.

Stage 2 structuring. mistake to go directly to writing. (vgl [[A System for Writing by Bob Doto]] ) Mentions author Robert Caro who had book structure on his wall story book like, vgl what I do when writing reports w wall of post its for structure. Limitation is size of wall. But physcial movement helpt. He does this type of wall in [[Tinderbox]] !!!! canvas, with the sticky notes having metadata. His chapter and heading structure emerges from it! Prevents getting lost in the details. Shows him what is missing too (looping back to research phase sometimes). It's not writing but getting a sense of the narrative flow of the entire thing. Seems like outlining of talks, but a book is bigger and thus the outlining is more filled out with links to material

What question would a reader have entering chapter 2 after reading chapter 1, and go from there. Has opening story/anecdote for each chapter. Mwah. Uses the story board view like how the periodic table suggested the existence of atoms that had not been discovered yet. Dmitri Mendleev.

Stage 3 writing After structuring the writing tools come into play. He used Scrivener, avoiding having a monolithic text. Now Ulysses, in markdown. Uses word count targets in these tools for sections/chapters

set up supportive environments for each pahse structure first but keep flexible, don't make it a linear process, but structure ulnocks the writing swith modalities - walking, free form in [[Tinderbox]] or another tool, to avoid getting stuck.

The bidirectional takes the form of linked mentions underneath a linked to note. That's common even in wiki I think these days. Any tools out there that link closer to like Ted Nelson proposed? Within a pkm tool bidirectional linking into a specific spot in a note should be somehow doable. Transclusion is a step further even, but if I can link to a paragraph, that paragraph should be able to link to where it is cited, no? In Obsidian the ^ link is still one way, while origin and source are known for it to work (the reference number)

Silverbullet, making the rounds in #pkm tooling circles last few days. Works on file system, but that needs to be on a web server. Client is a progressive web app. Browser loads all of it, and then it's local on device and can work offline.

The Second Brain Scam<br /> by [[Corey Carvalho]]<br /> accessed on 2025-10-22T13:44:26

https://web.archive.org/web/20250815075154/https://writingslowly.com/2025/08/03/ive-written-a-book-and.html

Amazon silo only. Shu Har Ri (imitate, experiment, go beyond) seems a skill oriented learning approach.

https://web.archive.org/web/20250808094556/https://www.openculture.com/2025/08/a-man-read-3599-books-over-60-years-and-now-his-family-has-shared-the-entire-list-online.html

E referred me to this as a fellow 'list maker' example. My current list is about 1600, mostly because I lost a 2k delicious library list. Not all read though. [[Boekenlijst is bibliotheek 20210507092034]] #blogdit

A brief description of Obsidian Bases I have created a simple one as overview of my ongoing projects in my company. Works fast on the fly, but not sure there's a huge diff with previous dataview queries.

Koppermaandag ken ik van de Groningse kunstkring De Ploeg waar E's oudoom ze ook maakte (vgl https://www.kunstbehoudgroningen.nl/collectie/82 ). Oorspronkelijk een feestdag van alle gilden , later alleen nog in de grafische sector. #idee iets voor [[% Practice Praktijk OP]] op #2026/01/12

nav dat ik bij [[Roy Scholten]] in het Grafisch Atelier Hilversum koppermaandagprenten tegenkwam. #2025/06/07 en ze al eerder daar had gezien.

https://web.archive.org/web/20250428054937/https://www.jacksonsart.com/blog/2019/11/27/writing-artist-bio-statement/ Via [[Roy Scholten]] https://bildung.royscholten.nl/nl/posts/2025/art-for-a-living-vonk/ Makes me wonder about using it for artisans, not artists, and by extension for knowledge-artisans. As it puts the creative acts of K-work more central. Vgl [[Convening call 20230908135351]] en [[Kenniswerk is ambacht 20040924200250]]

European PKM Summit 2025 (Part 2) by [[Malik Alimoekhamedov]]

https://web.archive.org/web/20241221133519/https://danielwirtz.com/blog/bottom-up-note-taking-in-capacities

Daniel Wirtz writes about his note making, 'writing at the speed of thought', based off his interstitial journaliing as day log, w links/tags for finding things back similar to my mo, types/actions added. Objects used for things w more permanence, like I split off notes from my day log too. All that doesn't say 'at the speed of thought' to me however.

For me the purpose of a collab zk would need to be aligned to what drives the collaborators. E.g. how I tie pkm to individual professional activism and autonomy, and extended/aggregated to teamkm it drives the core value of constructive activism of my company, and how we use [[Systems convening denken Wenger Trayner 20230914131102]] to translate that into interventions and desirable client projects. Vgl [[PKM systems convening activisme relatie 20241123085857]] expressing that connection.

https://web.archive.org/web/20241113110726/https://www.experimental-history.com/p/so-you-wanna-de-bog-yourself

from 2024/01 by Adam Mastroianni

Knower / observer not separate from the universe, not outside the system boundary Vgl [[Systems convening landscape als macroscope 20230906115130]] where the convener is integral part of it too, not an external change agent.

I really don't like this David Allen quote which is often seen in these spaces. It's usually used by people who haven't spent any time training their memory.

I'll give BD the benefit of the doubt that the entirety of this PKM paragraph is sidelining the "PKM scene" altogether.

https://web.archive.org/web/20241005072338/https://ruk.ca/content/blog-posts-are-breadcrumbs#comment-28817

[[Peter Rukavina]] on how his blog is something others come across and make connections. Commented that [[Hoe emergence tot stand komt 20040513173612]] is from longer traces. My PKM system is leaving those traces for me, my blog for me and others. My blog is the longest, due to it being 22+ yrs old, trace I'm leaving publicly for others to connect around.

https://web.archive.org/web/20241002133454/https://tracydurnell.com/2024/09/29/the-secret-power-of-a-blog/

Tracy Durnell on the personal affordances of keeping a blog. Haven't read just glanced, but usually she makes interesting points, marked to read -[ ] Read this wrt #pkm #15mins

via [[Euan Semple]]

my comment, in response to someone getting lost in up front organising of notes, and ending up in a 'mess'. Embrace the mess, lengthen traces to stumble upon, earn structure (they're a personal tool not an outside standard or demand). Organise during note usage rather than during note taking, except for curation when saving something external with a remark (tags sometimes) and an internal link.

https://web.archive.org/web/20240923175503/https://www.baldurbjarnason.com/2024/the-promise-and-the-distraction/

glorious rant by Baldur Bjarnason, but not much surprisal here. As with other stuff, albeit agile scrum, getting things done, and any of the pitched perfect ways to make notes, whenever the process becomes the thing rather than a tool in the hand of an knowledge artisan stuff is useless and boring.

It's about output, not in units or volume, but in quality. Needing to know why your are making these notes, and weaving your network of meaning.

The people who do things with their system usually don't talk about it much. I've done it on occasion and am happy to share and show how/why I do things, but never with the intention to convince another to do the same or similar.

http://www.rachelwu.com/Wu_2019.pdf

proposes ...adaptation is relevant for all age groups because the environment is dynamic, suggesting that learning what to learn is a problem relevant across the lifespan

reviews new research demonstrating the importance and ways of learning what to learn across the lifespan, from objects to real-world skills 2018/2019pub

this paragraph reads like making commonplacing navigable in a new way. Also turns 'snippets' into potenital entry points without them being separate notes, and pivots like tags. Note the clear spatial overtones (landmarks, being lost, navigate, ways, stumble upon, point).

Again the important distinction, here in the context which itch Latticework scratches, between 'evidence' and 'kindle' perspectives. The latter is an emotional thing, where knowledge is not an external thing, but a internal network of meaning.

adjustable snippet ranges, letting your emergent insight impact your original highlighting/annotation sounds like a very interesting idea. Not because you're pinpointing the info at source more accurately, but because the emergent purpose of your sensemaking reflects back on your source material. It shifts the exact point where your Surprisal originates around.

Naming clusters can be incorporated into sensemaking efforts though, when not used as result but as intermediate step. As in [[2 step archetype extraction 20121130152904]]

The processing document can get as unwieldy as the source material for which it is a solution. Latticework lets you collapse stuff therefore.

adding small observations to either the foraging or sensemaking side of things is reflected in the other. Another bi-directionality. Nifty, also because this is exactly what happened to me when I tried out an early version with Matt/Andy watching. Working with material leads to new thoughts/observations which I threw in for later follow-up/expansion. It allows me to capture my conversation with a text both as annotation at source, and as refinement in the working doc.

Bi-directionality is a key feature in Latticework, which is great. At the same time, on the source end it is also ephemeral. If your remove a linked snippet from the sensemaking document, the highlight, which is just a styling element, gets removed from the source. The source is not modified to produce the highlight. (Any permanent link to source should be made consciously, which is right) Bidirectionality, other than linking seems to me a key affordance in #pkm, something that not now exists in either my annotations / reading / processing flows. #openvraag: where in my workflows would bidirectional trace leaving be useful.

Making sense of material is not a linear process of ever more refinement, as e.g. Tiago Forte suggests with [[Progressive summarising 20200922080651]]. Siu/Matischak embrace the non-linear, recognising you go from 'foraging' (their term, great, K-garden style) to annotating, rearranging, noting an idea, back to foraging, back to rearranging etc. This is a key thing imo.

This is the 'final' result of [[Matthew Siu]] [[Andy Matischak]] research into an Obsidian plugin for making sense of several sources into one, emerging an outline. I tested an earlier beta on #2024/02/1 [[Andy Matthew Obsidian plugin]] https://www.zylstra.org/blog/2024/02/matthew-and-andy-watched-me-test-the-obsidian-reference-plugin/ I stopped using it after a few weeks due to clashes with other plugins I could not pin down. At first glance this is a good description of the process and intended purpose. Re-installed this version of the plugin.

https://web.archive.org/web/20240916051503/https://newrepublic.com/article/94175/ann-blair-managing-scholarly-information

via Chris Aldrich. Ann Blair of [[Information edited by Ann Blair]]

https://web.archive.org/web/20240714180109/https://hyperphor.com/ammdi/Agency-Made-Me-Do-It

Mike Travers site is a wiki more than a blog but not quite a wiki either. It's Logseq based and tied to a self-rolled publishing tool. Also uses Zotero in their stack. Seems he transformed his blog into this garden in Oct 2021.

[[Chris Aldrich]] is enthousiast over [[A System for Writing by Bob Doto]] bij publicatie want hij las een preprint versie.

Quick glance at Amazon shows Doto adds in illustrations of his processes, might be interesting.

His writing process is for several weeks to go through notes, just looking through them, let it mingle in his head. Then put things together and look for emergent clusters / topics.

Sloan says he has a very 'disciplined' note taking process. But continues he actually means he is always capturing things, thoughts, stories, overheard conversations. Uses voice dictation.

https://web.archive.org/web/20240607201833/https://mcgeesmusings.net/2024/06/06/knowledge-is-personal-manage-it-that-way/

Fellow KM blogger from back in the day [[Jim McGee]] (he blogs since Oct 2001) articulates in a slightly different way something that is key ot my perspective on org KM too: PKM is the foundation for org KM. I picked that up from Sveiby's 1997 book. n:: Jim phrases it here as K sharing doesn't happen between people when they have nothing to share, bc they don't do PKM. Then any sharing is a burden as it requires formulation first. I share stuff with colleagues daily, because it is a benefit to share things I already formulated.

https://web.archive.org/web/20240503124032/https://karl-voit.at/2022/01/29/How-to-Use-Tags/

Long post on 'how to' tag with a set of rules. Not a word on why to tag as a personal practice. Retrieval is key, and not just retrieval but retrieval in contexts. Not merely descriptive but mostly associative. That there is e.g. a #longtail of tags only used once is also a piece of information itself. E.g. when finding the starting point for a new branch of exploration. I find that [[Tags are valuable as pivots 20070815104800]]. The mostly used tags (unavoidable if you use a limited set as suggested in rule 2) become useless because they no longer demarcate a manageble chunck of material.

Dichotomy of "mythic imagination" rooted in the unconscious versus "logical thought" rooted in the conscious

Also, see this as a reading of "chaos versus order". See, for example, Apollonian and Dionysian theory or Confucius order and Lao Tzu chaos (with respect to wu-wei). In PKM, this would correlate to the gardener vs architect archetypes.

Het webinar van RADIO op 27-2 over mijn #pkm systeem. Video bij https://www.zylstra.org/blog/2024/03/word-pkm-kampioen-voor-jezelf/ en [[PKM RADIO slides]]

Five types of wayfinding in PSKN: 1) node creation 2) finding key notes, 3) forming mental maps 4) making a connection between nodes deemed important 5) finding/filtering information. Note how these 5 are also, in a different way perhpas, core elements of my [[PKM Personal Knowledge Management 20041004192620]] First mentioned, the creation of nodes is a novel type defined by this study. Three types of creation behaviour are involved: learning communities, knowledge nodes, and course knowledge bases. These there are common in pkm circles too, vgl Discord servers some have started, or DF platform, published notes and vids e.g.

Om je te oriënteren in een persoonlijk social kennisnetwerk is het creëren van nodes van groot belang. Maw je moet actief het sociale kennisnetwerk mede vlechten. Netwerkleren betekent connecties maken.

Vgl [[Wie deelt bestaat 20130131133926]] only nodes that share (i.e. contribute) exist in the general perception of the network. Wrt [[Netwerkleren Connectivism 20100421081941]]

read Thanks to what @zsviczian@pkm.social … – Interdependent Thoughts by [[by Ton Zijlstra]]

This reminds me that I ought to go back and look at Excalidraw's state-of-the-art again. It's been too long.

a few interesting suggestions, but based on shaky assumptions and practices I think, and then jumping to (over)engineering an alternative system/tool, rather than updating one's (understanding of) tiny methods. The reference frames are useful notion I suspect, but as emergent structure. It seems as if author is thinking the actual work involved in writing / placing / linking is a bug rather than a feature.

Marieke van der Vliet haar verslag van de PKM Summit 2024

/reply at Digital Fitness in response to Agnes Lausen about folgezettel

Hey Agnes, thanks a lot for attending. I rlly loved the energy and loved doing the workshop. As to your question, yes I do use obsidian for my zettelkasten. As to the numbering, it gives me a few benefits. Firstly, it forces me to make a link. If I am going to import a new note, I will have to link the note to another note, because I have to give an ID (number). This prevents orphan notes. And, it gives me a visual sense of what is going on in my zettelkasten. I can see at a glance if a section has more notes than others (my section 4, for example, has more notes.) Both the ID and the statement title, for me, gives me so much context just seeing the title without looking at the contents.

Dit doet me denken aan dat PKM kan functioneren als een persoonlijke geschiedenis van jezelf.

zapier alternative to integrate apps

https://pkmsummit.com/

read [[Harold Jarche]] in dead blog walking at 20

[[Ton Zijlstra]] in A Free PKM Conference Ticket For a Student – Interdependent Thoughts

Monday.com

in select what you'd like to focus on has: - academic research - resource management - task management - curriculum & syllabus management** - portfolio management - project management

Zenkit Suite

• Zenkit ToDo (interested in)

also has: Zen Hypernotes (knowledge, notes & Wiki)* interesting ZenProjects zenForms (forms & surveys) ZenChat Base (all-in-one collaboration platform)

This overview of Alper's Obsidian day template contains some useful items to mimick. Should also blog my own template as it contains some tweaks that help in different ways around associating content with each other. - [ ] lees dit en kijk wat ik er van in eigen daily log template zet.

https://web.archive.org/web/20240125180647/https://www.cygnoir.net/2024/01/20/how-i-pocket.html

Nice, 'creativity system' in opposition to the productivity fetish that others express.

https://web.archive.org/web/20240125111157/https://boffosocko.com/2024/01/24/rev-dr-martin-luther-king-jr-s-zettelkasten/

Chris keeps surfacing nice examples of people using index card systems for pkm and learning. Here Martin Luther King jr.

https://web.archive.org/web/20240123154817/https://boffosocko.com/2024/01/18/note-taking-and-knowledge-management-resources-for-students/

Chris provides a nice overview of who's who around notetaking. There are some names in there that I may add to my feeds. Also go through the reading list, with an eye on practices that may fit with my way of working. Perhaps one or two names are relevant for #pkmsummit too.

https://web.archive.org/web/20240118121305/https://forum.zettelkasten.de/discussion/1120/a-notebook-zettelkasten/p1

A numbering/indexing system for notes in notebooks that is more granular than merely page numbers. I wonder how big his notebooks are (hundreds of pages, and multiple entries per page sounds like big folios)?

Mentions several notebooks, see [[The Notebook by Roland Allen]] with the Italian examples of using multiple for different stages.

How does he process them into his 'main' repository of notes? How might this connect to a practice of scanning pages from notebooks into Obsidian for further processing and indexing, as I've been doing?

https://web.archive.org/web/20231228181017/https://www.historyofinformation.com/index.php large resource on the history of information, presented in timelines. Useful for finding earliest examples of certain artefacts (not methods though)

PKM: MyMind

Useful thread overwhelmingly supporting leaving Evernote for Upnote. 討論串壓倒性支持從Evernote出走，奔向Upnote。

The video does an in-depth comparison of the two apps. 影片深入比較兩者功能。

Affine 免費版新增內容無上限，除了單一檔案上限10M，雲端儲存上限10GB，感覺很佛心，可以試用很久。

I'm a bit surprised at the conclusion: Evernote still the best and can't be supplanted easily. Seriously?

But there are some naked truths about Tana and Mem (and Mem X). The Second Brain guy didn't mince words.

I think he is too harsh on Obsidian. You can't have your cake and eat it. If local-first philosophy is of utmost importance to you, you've got to learn where the vaults are stored locally. Duh!

A heavy-weight in-depth look at Heptabase, comparing with other PKMs.

Grabe, Mark. “Student and Professional Note-Taking.” Substack newsletter. Mark’s Substack (blog), November 10, 2023. https://markgrabe.substack.com/p/student-and-professional-note-taking?publication_id=1857743&utm_campaign=email-post-title&r=77i35.

Educator Mark Grabe looks at some different forms of note taking with respect to learning compared lightly with note taking for productivity or knowledge management purposes.

Note taking for: - learning / sensemaking - personal knowledge management - productivity / projects - thesis creation/writing/other creative output (music, dance, etc.)

Not taken into account here is the diversity of cognitive abilities, extent of practice (those who've practiced at note taking for longer are likely to be better at it), or even neurodiversity, which becomes an additional layer (potentially noise) on top of the research methodologies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ux1GXpzXt0U

Yet another PKM Guru channel. A mixture of (he says) Tiago Forte (BASB, CODE), zettelkasten, and PKM.

Uses Craft, Canva, Figma, Spotify (for ambient focus).

He's actively creating/using some of the words and definitions of others, but also creating his own "system" definition. (hubs, etc.) He redefines Forte's C.O.D.E. to give it his own spin: Capture, Connect, Create Share.

He's got a subtle proselytizing Christian underlying message. Mentions Bible. Has hat with word "WRSHP". "Adding value to someone else's life" by sharing. Personal conversation is important to him (proselytizing). Speaking at his church about what "God has put in his heart."

Turning notes into "diamonds"

There's an outline of a system here, but he doesn't show actual practice, which is possibly the most important part, otherwise it may be unusable theory. To be able to do this system, I think, one would need to already be conversant in what is going on generally in the space or have Forte's system under control. By this point, what is Wheeler's real contribution other than a small example?

meh....

Also Sveiby on corporate KM starts out from professional's PKM, and tacit K is about half of what Nonaka's about.

Polyani as pdf in Zotero: zotero://select/library/items/FGEACIKL a 1964 edition of his 1958 text.

This is an odd jump, ignoring the early digital era (1980s-1990s) which also saw many different tools from Apple cards to Brain, wikis and Tinderbox, Xanadu even before that.

List/explore this in [[Maak machientjes in je PKM 20230304092406]]

Marco over Tiago's boek. Vind de vele nieuwe acroniemen voor methoden en taktiekjes die al heel oud zijn onnodig, en mis het historisch besef bij Forte (en Milo et al). Vgl [[Transcript digitale fitheid Tiago Forte]]. en [[BASB Building a second brain 20200929164524]]

Sortes Vergilianae: taking random quotes from Vergilius and interpret their meaning either as prediction or as advice. The latter as a trigger for self reflection makes it a #leeswijze #reading manner that is non-linear

Vgl. [[Skillful reading is generally non-linear 20210303154148]]

St. Antonius (of Egypt, 3rd century) is said to have read the bible this way (sortes sanctorum it's called if you use it for divination), and Augustinus followed that thus picking up Paul's letter to the Romans and getting converted in the 4th century.

Is this ripping up of the text into isolated paragraphs to access and read a text an early input into commonplace books and florilegia? As a gathering of such things?

Mentioned in [[Information edited by Ann Blair]] in lemma 'Readers' p730.

[[Information edited by Ann Blair]] bought #2023/08/19 in Groningen at Godert Walter

One is usually not aware of a new project (as a set of activities) starting, only some time after you have started do you realise it is a project. Meaning that 'starting' a project in your (pkm) system, always includes a bit of existing history. Starting templates / sequences (like making folder structures etc) should incorporate that existing brief history.

I recognise this, but this description also seems to assume that a project starts in a sort-of vacuum without pre-existing context and notes, until you creat the first few steps before realising it is indeed a project. Having an established note making routine (day logs, etc whatever) means projects are emergent out of ongoing activity, out of an existing ratcheting effect. Vgl [[Vastklik notes als ratchet zonder terugval 20220302102702]] Meaning you can always point back to existing notes, tracing the evolution of something into a project. That can be covered by a few pointers/fields/tags in a new project's template.

info filters niet meer ingebouwd in het systeem; dat moeten we nu zelf zien te creëeren, of deze worden anders voor ons gemaakt (zie bijvoorbeeld algoritmes, enzo)

37:30 Tech companies don't want you to take info into your own notes (see pkm can give agency)

Learning as a Network LaaN and Personal Knowledge Network PKN , do these labels give me anything new?

Mohamed Amine Chatti: The LaaN Theory. In: Personalization in Technology Enhanced Learning: A Social Software Perspective. Aachen, Germany: Shaker Verlag, 2010, pp. 19-42. http://mohamedaminechatti.blogspot.de/2013/01/the-laan-theory.html I've followed Chatti's blog in the past I think. Prof. Dr. Mohamed Amine Chatti is professor of computer science and head of the Social Computing Group in the Department of Computer Science and Applied Cognitive Science at the University of Duisburg-Essen. (did his PhD at RWTH in 2010, which is presumably how I came across him, through Ralf Klamma)

yes. Me: re-usable insights from project work, exploring defined fields of interest to see adjacent topics I may move into or parts to currently focus on, blogposts on same, see evolutionary patterns in my stuff.

Btw need to find a diff term than output, too much productivity overtones. life isn't 'output', it's lived.

? the notes are the research/learning, no? Not only a residue of it. Is this a mix-up between the old stock and flow disc in (P)KM and the sense it needs to be one or the other? Both! That allows dancing with it.

Yes, if I could run my own notes of 3 decades or so on an LLM locally (where it doesn't feed the general model), that I would do instantly.

Personal websites like mine since mid 90s fit this. #openvraag what incentives are there actually for people now to start their own site for online interaction, if you 'grew up' in the silos? My team is largely not on-line at all, they use services but don't interact outside their own circles.

https://web.archive.org/web/20230309061020/https://boffosocko.com/2023/03/07/rules-against-quotes-in-zettelkasten-a-closer-look-at-ahrens-on-quotes-and-collecting/

Chris Aldrich on Ahrens and on quoting and processing by one's own rephrasing as mutually reinforcing. As Ahrens is regularly interpreted as advicing no quoting. Vgl [[Zettelkasten Ahrens 20201025194845]]

Folgezettel are per the linked https://web.archive.org/web/20220125173712/https://omxi.se/2015-06-21-living-with-a-zettelkasten.html posting also a way to create some sort of initial overview in a physical system. In digital systems network maps serve a similar purpose as initial overview to be able to start with something. The outline Lawson mentions as origin is a thing in itself to me, esp as the connections / place in a system of a note can be reconsidered over time. Physical placement is by def a compromise, the question if it is a constraint that has a creative effect?

presumption: L's Folgezettel are a combination of outlining (as common in US maybe not German law edu) and the note cards used in sociology. Cross linking as a way to escape forced categorisation into exclusive buckets. Is there also in cross linking an element perhaps of escaping established idiom while building new (fields) of knowledge? (Vgl. Richard Rorty's struggle when forced to explain pragmatism in the language of Platonic dilemma's. [[Taal als zicht beperkend element 20031104104523]] )

Yes. Any pkm system or method is (or should be) tailored to one's own needs. Vgl [[% Interessevelden 20200523102304]] as [[Macroscope 20090702120700]]

An interesting bit of code that could let me have a single template to create a note or a project or a MOC. I could replace 3 of my current templates with a single one, and reduce the number of special hotkeys too.

**比如，你读了一本书，花了好几个小时的来理解书中的观点。

当你读完这本书时，你以为获得了宝贵的知识。

接下来你可能会尝试应用书中推荐的一些方式方法，

却发现事情并不像你想象的那样简单。

你可能会尝试改变你的饮食、运动、沟通或工作方式，相信习惯的力量。

但随后，生活中的日常需求又汹涌而来，让你忘记了当初这样做的动机是什么，一切又回到原点。**

This sounds like what I call soft-focusing. Some years ago I let go of being strict with myself, and stopped having defined goals in favor of course/directions and a vaguer sense of the destination. I also started soft-focusing my inputs (if there's a connection to my running list of interests connected to my sense of direction it qualifies), and am now trying to soft-focus my outputs. Not blogpost / project A or deliverable B as I would earlier, but more emergent. Then when I have task / creative thing to do, I use it to formulate questions to my notes and see what comes up. This evolved from doing the same in conversations with clients and colleagues where the value of that and resulting associations was clearly visible.

Andy is Adapting the approach of zettelkasten writer Christian Tietze

Andy suggests taking a step back and clustering annotations into piles or using a mind map or visualisations to identify common themes.

I wonder if this is a bit overkill for the number of notes I tend to take or a sign that I'm not taking enough notes?

What tools are out there that could integrate with my stack and help me do this.

conscise summary - backlinking as crucial factor

It's easy to get caught up fantasising about what you could achieve rather than actually taking action to achieve it.

Estas preguntas sobre las nuevas posibilidades del archivo algorímico pasan por su intervención a partir de visualizaciones, búsquedas y otros algoritmos o emergencias.

Hay un diseñador (cuyo nombre no recuerdo, aunque está en mis notas de Telegram), que propone una manera de revisar las notas propias a partir de una aleatoriedad en forma de Oráculo, que propone nuevas conexiones "detonantes" (aleatorias más que relacionadas) a partir de lo previo en la medida en que se toman notas nuevas. Que la toma de nuevas notas sea así una manera de crear conexiones inesperadas. Algo similar ocurre cuando al agregar nuevas etiquetas a las notas que ya tenemos, se nos sugieren las etiquetas que ya están, haciendo que esa catalogación emergente conecte entre lecturas y notas, más que dentro de un mismo texto.

It's interesting because this way of thinking is eminently compatible with the zettelkasten way of thinking e.g. don't necessarily set out with a hypothesis in mind that you're trying to prove but rather explore until something interesting emerges.

This is key - exporting annotations via the API to either public commonplace books (Chris A Style) or to a private knowledge store seems to be pretty common.

I've been thinking about this exact same flow. Given that I'm mostly annotating scientific papers I got from open access journals I was wondering whether there might be some way to syndicate my zotero annotations back to h via a script.

Completely agree, this is a great intrinsic metric to measure the success of your work by.

not sure I love the metaphor but I can definitely see the advantages of leaving your learnings "out there" for others to see and benefit from

Practice informs tool choice, tools do influence practice in return, and can become 'favourites' temporarily as exploration, but also long term. Here I'd say Harold's blogging is a practice more than a technology.

I first encountered PKM in the form of Mick Cope's book Know Your Value, Value What You Know, which did little in terms of system for me, but helped cement setting the individual as key element in KM. That was the summer of 2000. Before that I had read Sveiby's New Organisation Wealth (first published 1997, read it in 2000), which wasn't about PKM, but still put the individual knowledge worker very much at the center of how KM evolves and why it is needed. For me PKM and KM were largely the same thing, with KM the aggregate over an organisation of the PKM of its people. In 2001 I joined KnowledgeBoard where I met Lilia, David Gurteen, Johnnie Moore, and many others active in this field. They reinforced the P in KM for me. It led me to blogging in nov 2002, after publishing an essay on KBoard about trust's role in KM, which very much centered on the P and relationships. In nov 2004 I co-org'd a PKM workshop at KM Europe, together with Lilia and Piers.

PKM is defined by the P, not by the tools for M. This means an individual system aimed at what is of import to its user. In that system processes and methods come first, then tools. Although all tools in return influence the system. It's an artisanal perspective on tools: to be informed and shaped by the artisan's intent and experience, plus the experience gained of using the tool.

I probably follow Harold's blog since then too. I remember Lilia and Harold interacted about PKM early on, and Lilia I and others organised a PKM workshop at KM Europe in Nov 2004. That came out of conversations on Knowledge Board, then a EU funded KM network of learning. KB based conversation was also what led me to blogging from Nov 2002.

I agree, it's all about the interaction and digital makes that easier, richer and ever more powerful. Reading that paragraph I also realise that my own practical interpretation is simultaneously one more of private knowledge management, rather than personal embedded in my network. Am happy to share my pkm practices, am happy to share most of the material I process in my pkm system, but the core of it feels private, perhaps due to seeing it as fragile still / less robust types of insights?

This sounds very PKM-ish, and the type of thing the IndieWeb community sees as starting point for the creation of independent webtools. Personal software that may be of interest to more users than yourself.