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    1. In many contexts“the family home” may not a place of comfort and refuge, but may be asite of oppression, violence, and surveillance; for example, the heterosexualor cisgender family home for LGBTQ2S people, or non-Indigenous fosterhomes for Indigenous children.

      I think it's important to note that a lot of the time, for minors, the adults in their lives can often be the ones who oppress them the most. We can see this in how many queer children have to hide their identities in order to be safe, or how in some households, adults may have starkly different views than their children, which may cause conflict.

    2. We agree with Reagon’s call to strengthen coalitions across differences,but also see the importance of practices of allyship, activism, and decolo-nization that happen within and across intimate geographies of the home,the family, and between friends and lovers.

      I also agree with Reagon's criticism. I think the biggest changes come from stepping out of your comfort zone to make a difference in the public. It isn't easy, but once you start creating awareness towards the injustice, it is almost like a domino effect of more people standing up for what they believe in.

      I also agree with the authors, it is definitely important to practice allyship among the people in your family and friend group. I think a good mix of the two approaches could be good.

    3. Thus, we call on non-Indigenous queers to think about a politics of ac-countability instead of a politics of inclusion, asking how we might performqueerness differently within a decolonial praxis.

      Often in life, we focus on how we can be inclusive to different types of minorities. We see that in the way that companies say they want to hire more diverse people, but in reality, we still see discrimination emerge in places such as the workforce. I think the authors make a great argument of how instead of focusing on including people, we should be holding people accountable for their actions. A mix of the two would be ideal, but in society, we must hold more accountability as it is needed for change. Audre Lorde talks about how anger can be used in creative ways, as a tool for change (Lorde 1997, 283). I agree with her in the sense that anger is not solely destructive. Showing anger is a good way to let people know that there is an inherent problem with the system that must be changed.

    4. Practicing decolonial allyship within a White settler queer family, alsomeans deepening an understanding of the way colonial narratives may beembedded within “social justice,” “intersectional,” or “critical literacy” dis-courses and practices despite their claim to do the opposite. For example,it has been important to Cindy that the story her daughter hears (and tells)about Indigenous people in Canada, is not only a story of oppression butalso of resistance and resilience.

      This passage really made me think. A lot of the time, when we learn about Indigenous people, we often hear about how they were oppressed, and it focuses on their suffering, but it hardly ever mentions their strength to stand tall despite the oppression they face every single day. I think it's important for both facts to coexist.

      As the text mentions, things like social justice aren't always upheld. This is because, inherently, the structures in Western society benefit White colonizers the most. This raises the question of, "What can we do to change the structure that oppresses Indigenous people and people of colour?"

    5. Cindy, on the other hand, is challenged to unmaskand unlearn White settler colonial ways of thinking and being in the world,and to listen and learn from Indigenous people.

      I resonate a lot with Cindy. I think trying to unlearn colonial ways can be difficult, but once you're aware of what they look like, it makes it a bit easier. This reminds me of when bell hooks stated, "The enemy within must be transformed before we can confront the enemy out." when referring to internalized sexism (hooks 2014, 12). Broadly speaking, when we talk about internalized sexism, it is all these internalized thoughts that we carry with us about gender norms that may be harmful to us. I think this is quite similar to colonial ways of thinking because, just like internalized sexism, colonial thinking is built into us because it played a role in every step of our lives when growing up in a Western society.

      Often, we have a lot of behaviour that is deeply rooted in colonialism and patriarchy, yet we don't even realize it. So, it's important to understand this can happen, analyze what we need to change, and try to break free from these norms so that we can work towards decolonization.

    6. Sarah’s mom has also been an important queer ally, both to Sarah andto her partner. She has attended many gay pride parades and other queercommunity events, actively participating in these spaces even without Sarah’spresence.

      This is such an important topic to touch upon because sometimes you have to stop and think about what truly makes you an "ally". There's often a lot of discourse surrounding what it means to be an ally. Are you an ally to a cause simply because you say you are, or does being an ally mean that you take opportunities to involve yourself in those communities and try to make a difference? Maybe the real answer is not so black and white.

      As I read the highlighted passage, I thought about how nice it was to see Sarah's mom going to queer events with and without Sarah being there. To me, this feels like genuine allyship. This passage reminded me of enemy feminism and how Sophie Lewis talks about how oftentimes people say they are feminists, but their actions don't always match what they say they stand for (Lewis 2025). Normally, when people say they are allies, they do not do much to showcase this other than verbal support, so it is nice to see Sarah's mom taking part in actions that are meaningful towards the queer community.

    7. Friendships can provide opportunities for enacting allyship and a de-colonial queer praxis, while raising questions about reciprocity and account-ability across axes of difference. Our friendship developed initially withinthe context of our scholarly work, but it was deepened through conversa-tions that made clear our mutual interests in issues of violence, power, andcolonialism

      In this section, the authors discuss the importance of friendship and how it can foster allyship (Hunt and Holmes 2015, 161). I agree with this, as it is so easy to make friends by sharing similar interests and things you are passionate about. This is how you make some of the best friends, because when you find people who want to advocate for the same things as you, it can be a huge motivator to continue pro-social behaviours, knowing someone is there to back you up. As the authors mentioned, friends are also a good way to hold each other accountable. For example, perhaps you see a friend who is subconsciously reinforcing something like heteropatriarchal or heteronormative views. In this scenario, you can call them out on their behaviour and show them the error of their ways, holding them accountable. Sometimes we don't even realize that we are upholding certain norms, so it's always good to have a friend or someone you're close to who will point it out.

    8. For Sarah,and likely for other Indigenous queer women, their writing has been centralto finding a sense of community and identity. Their stories, poetry, and cre-ative nonfiction constitute “theories for decolonizing the body and mind aswell a queer theory itself”

      I feel like not a lot of people talk about how much of a powerful medium writing is. Not only is it a place to write down your thoughts, feelings, etc. But it is also a powerful medium to inform others so they can challenge their views and reflect on their values and norms.

    9. critique “politics of inclusion” and depoliticized articulations of intersection-ality that ignore hierarchical power relations and reinscribe White, colonial,gender, and sexual norms.

      I think a lot of the time, things like this are overlooked. For me, when I read this, I thought about how the world is so white centered and how the aftereffects of colonialism basically shapes everything in Canada, like the gender and sexual norms the author was talking about. For example, gender norms are enforced in the way people expect you to dress, act and behave. Sometimes this even carries over to queer relationships like when you hear someone say, "Okay, but who's the man in the relationship?" to non-men couples. It's even further reinforced by media like shows and movies that continue to showcase colonial gender and sexuality ideals.

    1. But the evidence is very clear on thispoint—it is not women that need fixing, but the deeply entrenched systems of gender inequality thatstructure our organizations and structure society more broadly

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    2. memetic advice such as ‘if you are offered a seat on a rocket ship, do not askwhat seat, just get on’ and ‘fortune does favour the bold, and you never know what you are capable of ifyou do not try’

      Yeah you might end up being capable of doing it, but what if you're genuinely risking your life?

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    1. I want to tell a story about two girls capable of retrieving what remainsdormant—the purchase or claim of their lives on the present—without committing furtherviolence in my own act of narration.

      Hartman's dilemma reminds me of Audre Lorde's famous quote published in This Bridge Called my Back about not using the master's tools to dismantle the master's house (Lorde, 2022). The author wants to help share marginalized stories but is afraid of committing further violence. In my opinion, this "further violence" is likely continuing to keep some voices/perspectives hidden or misinterpreting them to suit their own ideals (which Western epistemologies and archives have done).

    2. While the daily record of such abuses, no doubt,constitutes a history of slavery, the more difficult task is to exhume the lives buried underthis prose, or rather to accept that Phibba and Dido exist only within the confines of thesewords, and that this is the manner in which they enter history. The dream is to liberate themfrom the obscene descriptions that first introduced them to us

      In this passage, Hartman highlights the “daily record of abuses” that documents slavery but simultaneously erases the individuality and humanity of these women. Hartman’s struggle to “liberate them from the obscene descriptions” connects directly to the concept of speaking from the margins, as discussed in class with Ann Laura Stoler's book (Stoler, 2009). By focusing on what is missing or suppressed in these records (the margins), Hartman works against the archival grain, and demonstrates how feminist research methods seek to recover histories that exist at the margins.

    3. and to respect the limits of what cannot beknown.

      I interpret this passage as the author trying to respect the humanity and dignity of those who not only could not speak for themselves but also the ones were spoken for (such as the Venus figure she describes and their dehumanization), while also recognizing their own standpoint. Standpoint theory as described by Harding states that everyone's knowledge is a result of their standpoint (the intersection of the many social positions like race or gender someone may have) (Harding, 1987). "What cannot be known" can mean the limits of the author's standpoint.

    4. When Dana, the protagonist ofButler’s speculative fiction, travels from the twentieth century to the 1820s to encounterher enslaved foremother, Dana finds to her surprise that she is not able to rescue her kin orescape the entangled relations of violence and domination, but instead comes to accept thatthey have made her own existence possible. With this in mind, we must bear what cannot beborne: the image of Venus in chains

      This passage draws on speculative fiction as a tool for engaging with history, showing how Dana’s time travel in Kindred parallels our engagement with the archive of slavery. Dana's inability to "rescue" her ancestors highlights the interconnection of violence from the past and present as well as limitations when dealing with trauma from the past. Hartman makes a connection between this and Venus, arguing that we too must "bear what cannot be borne" that is, acknowledge the structural constraints and suffering of the past without erasing or simplifying them. This resonates with decolonial approaches from class, which emphasize bearing witness to historical violence and its ongoing effects rather than imposing closure or resolution.

    5. If this story of Venus has any value at all it is in illuminating the way in which our age istethered to hers. A relation which others might describe as a kind of melancholia, but whichI prefer to describe in terms of the afterlife of property, by which I mean the detritus of liveswith which we have yet to attend, a past that has yet to be done, and the ongoing state ofemergency in which black life remains in peril.

      This passage emphasizes the continuing effects of slavery and dispossession in the present, what Hartman calls the “afterlife of property.” They frame history not as something behind us, but as ongoing: the violence that produced Venus’s life and death continues to shape Black life today. However, I wonder what Hartman means by "a past that has yet to be done." I assume she is talking about time as cyclical, but how can we then "do" the past?

    6. Initially I thoughtI wanted to represent the affiliations severed and remade in the hollow of the slave ship byimagining the two girls as friends, by giving them one another. But in the end I was forced toadmit that I wanted to console myself and to escape the slave hold with a vision of somethingother than the bodies of two girls settling on the floor of the Atlantic

      I found this passage very striking as it refers to the feeling of wanting closure or to find comfort in something tragic, even though the situation is very bleak. Throughout learning about colonial and world history, there is plenty of upsetting, disturbing, and violent subject matter. Wanting to make yourself feel better by changing the narrative or minimizing the event is something I and many others have experienced, just like how Hartman wanted the two girls to be friends despite their horrible circumstances and demise.

    7. AbstrAct: This essay examines the ubiquitous presence of Venus in the archive of Atlantic slaveryand wrestles with the impossibility of discovering anything about her that hasn’t already beenstated.

      Hartman's main thesis is that the enslaved girl "Venus" appears in the archives, but only in fragments that deprive her of humanity. She argues that because the archive only records enslaved women from a position of sexual exploitation, ownership, and assault, it is intrinsically violent. Her goal is to tell a story that challenges the limitations of the archive without perpetuating that violence.

    1. and Italy, Khrushchev (with Castro’s agreement) began an,initially, secret placement of Soviet missiles in Cuba.The Russian buildup was detected by U–2 flights,while the Russians rushed to construct the supporting in-frastructure for the missiles, bombers, and defending SA-2 surface-to-air missile sites and MiG fighters. Russianmerchant ships bound for Cuba were scrutinized for sus-pected weapons systems. Eventually there was clear evi-dence that intermediate and medium-range missilelaunch pads hade been constructed despite Khrushchev’sassertion that no construction was ongoing—only themovement of agricultural machinery to aid in moderniz-ing the Cuban agrarian sector.Bromley then follows a timeline illustrating moves andcountermoves by the two key players. US aircraft conductedreconnaissance over Cuba. Strategic Air Command dis-persed its forces and maintained armed, airborne B–52s inanticipation of possible nuclear strikes. Soviet submarinesreached their stations off the US Atlantic coast and in theCaribbean, while the US Navy aggressively tracked them.Soviet anti-ship missiles were activated in Cuba. Kennedydeclared a blockade (quarantine) of Cuba (an act of war?).The Soviets, on October 27, 1962, shot down a US U–2, po-tentially pushing the crisis to the brink. A few days later aSoviet submarine crew, unsure of whether or not they werealready at war, came far too close to launching a nucleartorpedo at threatening US Navy surface vessels.The Cuban Missile Crisis was the single most unnerv-ing crisis of many during that era, one complicated by achain of often unanticipated events. It might sound like ahighly imaginative Cold War novel, but it did happen, asthis monograph makes very clear.A complicating sideshow was the need for each side torein in its own players. The Pentagon’s JCS wanted to in-vade Cuba. Submariners were ready to employ nuclear tor-pedoes. US destroyer commanders were itching to depthcharge Soviet submarines. Somehow, both direct and indi-rect exchanges between the two sides managed to end thecrisis.These monographs very effectively revisit Cold Warmoments of incredible consequence. For those of us whohave firsthand memories, reading the two volumes broughtthem all back. For readers with no firsthand knowledge,Bromley has provided an easy-to-follow account of whathappened, the impacts, and how we escaped a nuclear war.Without a question, these are very good reference materi-als and well worth the time to read.John Cirafici, Milford DEA6M2/3 Zero-sen; New Guinea and the Solomons1942 & Operation RO-GO 1943; Japanese Air PowerTackles the Bougainville Landings. Both by MichaelJohn Claringbould. Oxford UK: Osprey, 2023. Maps. Tables.Diagrams. Illustrations. Photographs. Appendices. Bibliog-raphy. Index. Pp. 80 and 96. Cost: $23.00 and $25.00 pa-perback. ISBN: 978-1-4728-5749-1 and 978-1-4728-5557-2-1In these two books, Michael Claringbould take thereader to the South Pacific at the time when the Japanesejuggernaut was stopped, and the allies began to take theinitiative in the theater. The A6M2/3 plays a leading rolein both books. Claringbould is an accomplished writer andan even better researcher, using his Japanese languageskills to bring new anecdotes and lessons to a well-knownstory. He frequently drops Japanese terms and phrasesthroughout his writing (ofttimes, it seems more to establishhis bona fides than to enlighten the reader).A6M2/3 Zero-sen is most effective when it provides auniquely detailed picture of the life of a Japanese aviatordeployed to a forward area. By mid-1942, the Japanesesupply chain was already stretched and under increasingpressure, so daily life and operations were harsh by anystandard. Claringbould’s research seems to have found aunique supply of anecdotes. He does not hesitate to callother writers to task for their failures to do the same, e.g.,criticizing Martin Caiden for his sterilization of the 1957Saburo Sakai biography Samurai for being an unrecogniz-able version of the original Japanese publication.This book abandoned the usual color profiles in favorof color schematics of air engagements. While eye-catching,the two-dimensional diagrams were more confusing thanhelpful. In his previous publications, Claringbould alsomakes clear that he believes regional geography and cli-mate are unappreciated factors that had significant tacti-cal and strategic impact.The A6M2/3 fighters were the heart of his story. Thebook shows that Japanese fighters were capable of domi-nating opposition when in the hands of skilled pilots. Inthe hands of novices, however, engagements with P–39s,F4Fs, and P–40s were more of an even match—and Japan-ese aircraft losses were much harder to replace. Pilots wereirreplaceable. Claringbould notes that, while the upgradeof the A6M2 to the A6M3 standard was significant, theSakae radial had reached the end of its evolution. Melzerstates in Wings for the Rising Sun that the Sakae radialdesign was a direct outgrowth of the Pratt & Whitney-Mit-subishi partnership. Once the war ended that partnership,Mitsubishi hit a technological dead end.Operation RO-GO 1943 moves the clock forward sixmonths as the Japanese struggled to regain the theaterinitiative. In doing so, Claringbould shows the results ofthe Japanese inability to both effectively redress the Zero-sen’s shortcomings and replace the loss of skilled aviators.He again beats the drum of geography and climate as op-erational factors that impacted the Japanese more thanthe allies. What began as a Japanese offensive strokequickly turned into a defensive battle to protect Truk andRabaul with demoralized and ill-equipped Japanese Army149JOURNAL OF THE AFHF/ SPRING 2024

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    1. n particular, decolonizing strategies of LGBTQ com-munities could focus on strengthening knowledge of local Indigenous gen-der and sexual identity practices, building knowledge of both contemporaryand historic Two-Spirit issues on the lands in which we live. Strengtheningrelationships with Indigenous queer, trans and Two-Spirit people at a locallevel would enable queer organizations and individuals to ground their de-colonial efforts in ongoing political activities defined by Indigenous peoplesthemselves. Without grounding decolonial strategies in the immediacy of In-digenous and Two-Spirit peoples’ daily lives at a local level, decolonizationcan become disconnected from the ongoing everyday manifestations of colo-nial power.

      In Decolonizing Feminism: Challenging Connections between Settler Colonialism and Hetero-patriarchy, the authors argue that colonialism, and specifically settler-colonialism where the settlers come to stay, happen through both systemic public acts of violence (e.g., control, labour exploitation), but also more intimate ways (assimilation, cultural erasure, sexual identity policing, linguistic oppression). I think this idea connects to the "everyday-ness of decolonization" mentioned earlier, and how resistance must be grounded in local activities and connections with queer Indigenous people, as much on a larger scale. Otherwise, we risk Indigenous erasure and the enforcement of colonial ideas of "progress."

    2. As a verb, queer is a deconstructivepractice focused on challenging normative knowledges, identities, behav-iors, and spaces thereby unsettling power relations and taken-for-grantedassumptions. Queerness is then less about a way of “being,” and more about“doing,” and offers the potential for radical social critique.

      This is a central theme: the reframing of "queer" beyond its initial identity label. Most of my peers think that queer describes a particular sexual orientation or identity. But to be queer is defined through practices and actions that are inherently anti-oppressive.

      This reminds me of a quote from bell hooks, where hook's describe queer as "the self that is at odds with everything around it and has to invent and create and find a place to speak and to thrive and to live." In this way, queerness is not a sexual identity but a method of moving through the world, a method that involves self-creation in opposition to hetero-normativity and patriarchy.

    3. As twodifferently located queer cisgender women committed to decolonial andqueer politics, we both engage in daily conversations and actions that seekto make space for ourselves, our families, and our partners in the contextof a racist, homophobic, transphobic, and heteronormative patriarchy con-ditioned through colonialism. Part of this involves asking critical questionsabout non-Indigenous queer and trans claims for safe space, rights, and be-longing in the context of ongoing colonial dispossession. Our daily realities,unfolding on these unceded lands on which we live, are the starting pointfor our investigation of the politics of everyday decolonization

      This is the central theme of this piece of work; of how decolonization can take place within intimate spaces such as our communities, families, within friendships, and our everyday work. As emphasized by the authors, decolonial practices must first take place within our private, personal experiences, before they can take shape through our laws, policies, and systems. The latter can be a slow process, but the former can start today.

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    1. This complicated learning profile can flummox many teachers, who may resort to labels of behaviors and things that irritate them rather than a thoughtful consideration of the whole child and what he or she brings to the classroom. Moreover, the longer a child traverses a public school system without receiving appropriate services to meet his or her needs, the higher the likelihood of failure, disappointment, decreased self-esteem, and depression.

      I can think of many examples of students like these in my own schooling experience and it makes me wonder if they were really an unruly, disrespectful kid or if something else was going on. It is hard as a teacher when you have so many students to dive in deep like this but it SO important for the student if you do.

    2. Some research has shown that students who perform at an average to below-average level in the inclusion classroom benefit more from a heterogeneous classroom. For gifted students, however, the opposite is true. They benefit more from homogeneous grouping with other students who are gifted (Winebrenner, 2001). A few guidelines for working with students who are gifted include less emphasis on drills and repetition in the classroom. Furthermore, students who are gifted respond to increased opportunities to demonstrate mastery and to differentiation strategies that include adaptations to content, process, product, environment, and assessment (Winebrenner, 2001). Using grouping strategies in the music classroom will benefit the academic enrichment of students who are gifted.

      I found this interesting because how can you have it both ways by separating the gifted kids but including average to below-average students? Who do you pick?

    3. The lowest 2% to 3% of students, when viewed according to IQ scores, receive the bulk of services, personnel, and funding to facilitate their education (Winner, 1996). Students with IQs ranging in the top 2% to 3% often experience very little in the way of services and supplementary aides (Winner, 1996).

      This disparity shocked me at first but then when I reflected on my own experiences, I couldn't recall a time where I saw a gifted or talented student receive services.

    4. School systems set their own benchmarks for IQ testing and services. Generally, the baseline IQ range for services is between 125 and 145.

      I don't know how to feel about this. I guess there is not one standard so each child can get the services they need. But what happens to a child who moves and who no longer qualifies for services because they don't meet the new score requirement?

    5. Music educators who teach gifted students are sometimes challenged by the depth of creativity and divergent thinking presented by students during instruction

      I’ve seen some choirs do this but maybe having a gifted student conduct a piece and rehearse the piece with their peers. This can really challenge their creativity by controlling how the ensemble plays. This will also keep them engaged longer with them thinking about conducting.

    6. Children up to about 140 IQ tolerate the ordinary school routine quite well, being usually a little young for the grade through an extra promotion or two, and achieving excellent marks without serious effort. But above this status, children become increasingly bored with school work, if kept in or nearly in the lockstep. Children at or above 180 IQ, for instance, are likely to regard school with indifference, or with positive distaste, for they find nothing to do there. (Winner, 1996, p. 401)

      What is the best way to challenge students while not leaving other students behind?

    7. These tests include some nonverbal testing that serves students who do not appear gifted according to their expressive language skills but who possess a high intelligence level.

      I haven’t actually thought about the range of being gifted and how some students will show it differently.

    8. She was a little relieved that Hannah would not be in the band on a regular basis because she wasn’t sure how she would be able to teach her much, let alone challenge her.

      This addresses a broader issue than just Hannah. I feel like this happens a lot in a concert band setting of course not as extreme as Hannah. But when you have one concert band in the entire high school how do you program pieces that will be playable for the freshman but challenge the seniors.

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      • The author argues that this configuration significantly improves page load times, reduces bandwidth usage, and makes devices feel faster and less cluttered.
      • They acknowledge an ethical gray area with ad blocking but conclude that user safety, privacy, and mental comfort outweigh the downsides of depriving low-quality ad networks of revenue.
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    1. Author response:

      The following is the authors’ response to the previous reviews

      Public Reviews:

      Reviewer #2 (Public review):

      Summary:

      The current article presents a new type of analytical approach to the sequential organisation of whale song units.

      Strengths:

      The detailed description of the internal temporal structure of whale songs is something that has been thus far lacking.

      Weaknesses:

      The conceptual and terminological bases of the paper are problematical and hamper comparison with other taxa, including humans. According to signal theory, codas are indexical rather than symbolic. They signal an individual's group identity. Borrowing from humans and linguistics, coda inter-group variation represents a case of accents - phonologically different varieties of the same call - not dialects, confirming they are an index. This raises serious doubt about whether alleged "symbolism" and similarity between whale and human vocal behaviour is factual.

      We respect that the reviewer does not agree with describing codas as symbolic markers of cultural identity in sperm whales, but ultimately we find the quantitative evidence presented in Hersh et al. (2022) compelling, and stand by the framing of our manuscript, which builds on this foundation.

      The same applies to the difference between ICIs (inter-click interval) and IOIs (inter-onset interval). If the two are equivalent, variation in click duration needs to be shown so small that can be considered negligible. This raises serious doubt about whether the alleged variation in whale codas is indeed rhythmic in nature and prevents future efforts for comparison with the vocal capacities of other species. The scope and relevance of this paper for the broader field is limited.

      We believe there has been a miscommunication. Coda inter-click intervals are calculated as the time between the onsets of sequential clicks within a coda. This is identical to definitions of inter-onset intervals in many publications, including:

      • Burchardt and Knörnschild (2020): “the duration between the beginning of one element and the next”

      • Friberg and Battel (2002): “the time interval between the onset of the tone and the onset of the immediately following tone”

      • De Gregorio et al. (2021): “the time between the onset of a note and the next one”

      In response to a comment from this reviewer in the first round of revisions, we made the point that we do not believe rhythm analyses need be restricted to inter-onset intervals alone. Regardless of that stance, we did analyze inter-onset intervals in this manuscript and accordingly are capturing aspects of rhythm in our analyses. We have removed a poorly worded sentence in our introduction and apologize for any confusion it caused. We have also made this explicit in lines 30–35: “This classification is based on the total number of clicks and their rhythm and tempo extrapolated from the time interval between the onsets of consecutive clicks: the inter-click interval (ICI) [15, 16] (Fig. 1A). This measure is equivalent to the inter-onset intervals (IOIs) often used in rhythm analyses [17, 18, 19] but for the sake of compatibility with studies on sperm whale acoustics, we use ICI terminology throughout this paper.”

      In our analyses, inter-click intervals and inter-onset intervals are equivalent measures.

      Recommendations for the authors:

      Reviewer #2 (Recommendations for the authors):

      My concerns regarding interdisciplinary terminology and methods remain unaddressed. The study's inaccurate terminology hinders reliable comparison with other taxa, including humans. Being "symbolic" bears no weight on the new method that the authors present, thus, the unwillingness for compatibility is limiting and perplexing. The authors state that codas have been previously described as being symbolic, but just because poor terminology has been used before doesn't justify perpetuating it, especially when it confounds and conflicts with broader comparative efforts.

      We agree that being symbolic bears no weight on the new method we present, but we believe it does bear weight on our interpretation of what our method reveals about patterns in sperm whale communication. For that reason, we have opted to maintain the current framing of our manuscript.

      The same applies to the difference between ICIs and IOIs. The authors resist amending terminology, even though they state the two represent the same measure. If so, want prevents the correct use of IOIs?

      We have opted to use ICI throughout the paper because it is standard terminology in sperm whale acoustics, but we have now made the ICI/IOI equivalence explicitly clear in the introduction.

      References:

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      De Gregorio C, Valente D, Raimondi T, Torti V, Miaretsoa L, Friard O, Giacoma C, Ravignani A, Gamba M. 2021. Categorical rhythms in a singing primate. Current Biology 31:R1379–R1380. doi:10.1016/j.cub.2021.09.032

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      Reviewer #1

      1. First, the authors have not convincingly shown that skin cells, or more specifically skin ECs, are a major source of circulating G-CSF in the psoriasis model as stated in the title and abstract. The data in Figure 4 show selective upregulation of Csf3 gene in skin ECs and their ability to secrete G-CSF upon IMQ treatment in vitro. However, the provided data do not address to what degree the skin EC-derived G-CSF contributes to the elevated level of circulating G-CSF. Additional experiments to selectively deplete G-CSF in skin ECs, or at least in skin cells of the affected site, are warranted to support the authors' claim. Does intradermal injection of G-CSF neutralizing antibody into the psoriatic skin reduce circulating levels of G-CSF?

      Author's response:

      Thank you for reviewer's comment. We agree with the Reviewer#1 that it is important to directly block G-CSF to the skin via intradermal injection and measure the G-CSF level in the serum afterwards. Therefore, we will perform intradermal injection of IgG-isotype or anti-G-CSF antibody into the IMQ-induced psoriatic mice.

      Another concern is insufficient demonstration of G-CSF-mediated emergency granulopoiesis in the psoriasis model. All data in Figure 5 were obtained from experiments with only n=3, and adding more replicates, in particular to those in Figure 5B, which show quite some variation in MPP numbers, is recommended. The relatively small reduction of BM granulocyte numbers (Figure 5C) compared to greater depletion of circulating granulocytes (Figure S5A) raises the possibility that it is the mobilization effect rather than granulopoiesis-stimulating effect that skin-derived G-CSF exerts to promote supply of circulating neutrophils that eventually infiltrate into the affected skin. This could also explain the negligible effect of IL-1blockade (Figure S4), which selectively shut off myelopoiesis-stimulating effect of IL-1 (Pietras et al. Nat Cell Biol 2016, PMID: 27111842). Are the HSPCs in the psoriasis model more cycling? Do they show myeloid-skewed differentiation when cultured ex vivo or upon transplantation?

      Author's response: Thank you for these critical comments. We agree to do the following experiments to address them:

      1) HSPCs quantification in Figure 5 especially the MPPs will be added with more replicates.

      2) We will assess cycling status of HSPCs by flow cytometric analysis of Ki67and Propidium Iodide to characterize G0, G1 and G2/M cell cycle phase.

      3) To test myeloid-skewed differentiation, Lin- c-Kit+ Sca-1+ cells containing HSPCs will be isolated from bone marrow of Vas/IMQ-treated mice and transplanted into lethally irradiated syngeneic mice.

      The authors' claim that skin-derived G-CSF "induces" neutrophil infiltration warrants further clarification. Alternative explanation is that the upregulated neutrophil-attracting chemokines (Figure S1D) could induce infiltration, whereas G-CSF increase the number of neutrophils to circulate in the vessels near the psoriatic skin. This notion seems supported elsewhere (Moos et al. J Invest Dermatol. 2019, PMID: 30684554). Can the infiltration be inhibited by systemically injecting neutralizing antibody of their receptor, CXCR2?

      Author's response: The manuscript focuses on the skin-derived G-CSF function as a long-distance signal for emergency granulopoiesis in the bone marrow upon psoriasis, not the chemoattractant property of it. The sentence of interest is "We found that upon psoriasis induction, skin-resident endothelial cells are activated to produce G-CSF which activates emergency granulopoiesis in bone marrow and induces cutaneous infiltration and accumulation of neutrophil that are functionally inflammatory." in line 28-30. In agreement with point #2 from Reviewer#2, the fact that neutrophil recruitment factors (CXCL1, CXCL2, and CXCL5) were upregulated in psoriatic skin (Figure S1D), suggesting a CXCL-mediated neutrophil recruitment. The sentence of concern need to be changed to "We found that upon psoriasis induction, skin-resident endothelial cells are activated to produce G-CSF which activates emergency granulopoiesis in bone marrow, leading to cutaneous accumulation of neutrophil that are functionally inflammatory.". This revised sentence has omitted the proposal that G-CSF directly dictates neutrophils mobilization to the skin, which is not the key message of the study. Therefore, we found that the CXCR2 (CXCLs receptor) blockade experiment may be of the benefit of future studies.

      It remains unclear how skin-derived G-CSF accumulates pathogenic neutrophils. The authors state "pathogenic granulopoiesis," but are the circulating neutrophils in the psoriatic mice already "pathogenic" or do they acquire pathogenic phenotype after cutaneous infiltration? Additional RNA-seq to compare circulating and infiltrated neutrophils would answer this question.

      Author's response: We appreciate this valuable comment. We will perform RNA-seq with the peripheral blood-circulating neutrophils (CD45+ CD11b+ Ly6G+ Ly6Cmid) versus skin-infiltrating neutrophils from both Vas/IMQ mice.

      In addition, how the accumulated pathogenic neutrophils exacerbate the psoriatic changes remains obscure. Although the authors have attempted to correlate Il17a gene expression in infiltrated neutrophils with psoriatic skin changes, the data do not address to what degree it contributes to cutaneous IL-17A protein levels. The data that cutaneous neutrophil depletion leads to subtle decrease in skin IL-17A expression (Figure 2H) rather supports alternative possibilities. For instance, as indicated elsewhere, IL-17A cutaneous tone could be enhanced by neutrophil-mediated augmentation of Th17 or gamma/delta T cell function (Lambert et al. J Invest Dermatol. 2019, PMID: 30528823). Does neutrophil depletion or G-CSF neutralization alter cell numbers or function of cutaneous Th17 and gamma/delta T cells?

      Author's response: Thank you for this insightful comment. To better understand the relative contribution of neutrophils to the cutaneous IL-17A tone in the psoriatic skin, we will perform flowcytometric analysis of Th17 and gamma/delta T cells which are widely known as the major source of IL-17 in psoriatic skin of IMQ-induced mice following injection of isotype-matched or anti-Ly6G antibody.

      Finally, as the above conclusions rely solely on the IMQ-induced acute psoriasis model, it would be informative if they could be derived from another psoriasis model. IMQ is known to induce unintended systemic inflammation due to grooming-associated ingestion (Gangwar et al. J Invest Dermatol. 2022, PMID: 34953514), and "pathological crosstalk between skin and BM in psoriatic inflammation" could be strengthened by an intradermal injection model.

      Author's response: We appreciate the reviewer for bringing this important point. Regarding the systemic inflammation upon psoriasis, the above-cited study reported increased IFN-B expression in the intestines of IMQ-ingested animal (Grine L et al. Sci Rep. 2016, PMID: 26818707 in Gangwar et al. J Invest Dermatol. 2022, PMID: 34953514). We examined several pro-inflammatory cytokines including IFN-b, IFN-g, and IL-6 and in contrast, found no systemic increase in all these cytokines, except for IFN-g downregulation (Explanation Figure 1), which suggests no evidence of grooming-associated ingestion.

      We also examined the Csf3 expression across several distinctively located tissues which showed a selective upregulation in the skin (Figure 4C), suggesting a skin-restricted perturbation. In addition, one study showed that IMQ-ingestion didn't alter number of gut injury-associated CXCR3+ macrophages nor did it aggravate skin inflammation (Pinget et al. Cell Reports. 2022, PMID: 35977500). Together, these findings support that IMQ-induced psoriasis by topical cutaneous application used in our study elicit a local inflammation but not systemic inflammation.

      The authors, however, realize that testing alternative psoriasis model such as intradermal injection of IL-23 (Chan et al. J Exp Med. 2006, PMID: 17074928) will strengthen the skin-local insults within the psoriasis model employed, and should be tested in the future.

      Minor comments

      Figure 1E shows multiple elongated Ly6G+ structures in d0-2 control and d0 IMQ skins that do not appear to be neutrophils.

      Author's response: We appreciate the Reviewer#1 pointing this issue. As mentioned by the Reviewer#1, the elongated structures detected in the intravital microscopy are not neutrophils, but autofluorescence from the skin bulge regions (Wun et al. J Invest Dermatol. 2005, PMID: 15816847). We have eliminated these unspecific signals from the transformation and quantification (Figure 1F, S1G, and S1H). We will also add an explanatory sentence in Materials and Methods section "Of note, the fluorescent signal with elongated structures resembling hair bulge were autofluorescence and thus removed from further analysis." to be more precise about our methods.

      In Figure 2C, the bottom GSEA seems to be showing type II IFN response, not type I IFN, according to the text.

      Author's response: Thank you for the comment, we will correct this misspelling.

      Author's response: We appreciate that Reviewer#1 bring up this point. We examined the kinetics of the bone marrow cellularity and GMPs across 4 days of psoriasis induction in mice. The bone marrow cell number was lowered along that span with lowermost count at 2 days. Consistent to the BM-cellularity, the GMP number was also lowered about one-third in the first 2 days of psoriasis. This kinetic is consistent with the previous report showing a rapid reduction of GMPs in the bone marrow within 2 days following systemic G-CSF administration driven emergency granulopoiesis (Hirai et al. Nat. Immunol. 2006, PMID: 16751774). From 2 days to 4 days, the GMP number rapidly increased to slightly above basal number (Explanation Figure 2). This timely coordinated expansion suggests a significant supply of GMPs from the differentiating upstream myeloid progenitors (Figure 3B).

      When the psoriatic mice with elevated G-CSF is injected with anti-G-CSF or IgG-isotype antibody, the bone marrow cellularity and GMP numbers at 4 days were (Explanation Figure 3). Firstly, as psoriasis reduced bone marrow cellularity (Explanation Figure 2), the unchanged number after anti-G-CSF injection indicates that administration of 10µg/day for 4 days does not significantly affect mobilization of psoriatic bone marrow cells. Secondly, the similar GMP numbers at 4 days psoriasis is plausibly due to snapshot analysis when it has already in the numerical recovery period (Explanation Figure 2). Importantly, the notion that anti-G-CSF injection to psoriatic mice reduced granulocytes in the bone marrow, peripheral blood, and skin suggesting G-CSF as a key mediator in psoriatic driven emergency granulopoiesis on top of unlikely case of ineffective anti-G-CSF treatment.

      Taken together, these data suggest a G-CSF mediated emergency granulopoiesis occurrence in the IMQ-induced psoriasis. We will put these data into a revised Figure.

      In Figures 6B, in which cluster of human skin cells IL-17A expression would be enriched?

      Author's response: Thank you for this important point. The IL-17A expression is found in the T-cell cluster (Explanation Figure 4). We also expected to see IL-17A contribution from other cell subset(s), in particular neutrophil. However, due to the fragile nature of neutrophils and thereby, technical difficulty to get their sequencing reads, this dataset (GSE173706) doesn't contain neutrophils, but rather monocytes, macrophages, and dendritic cells among the myeloid subset (Explanation Figure 5). With this, it leaves open the question on what potential contribution of IL-17A produced by neutrophils is in human psoriasis (Reich et al. Exp. Dermatol. 2015, PMID: 25828362).

      Figure 1E shows multiple elongated Ly6G+ structures in d0-2 control and d0 IMQ skins that do not appear to be neutrophils.

      Author's response: We appreciate the Reviewer#1 pointing this issue. As mentioned by the Reviewer#1, the elongated structures detected in the intravital microscopy are not neutrophils, but autofluorescence from the skin bulge regions (Wun et al. J Invest Dermatol. 2005, PMID: 15816847). We have eliminated these unspecific signals from the transformation and quantification (Figure 1F, S1G, and S1H). We will also add an explanatory sentence in Materials and Methods section "Of note, the fluorescent signal with elongated structures resembling hair bulge were autofluorescence and thus removed from further analysis." to be more precise about our methods.

      In Figure 2C, the bottom GSEA seems to be showing type II IFN response, not type I IFN, according to the text.

      Author's response: Thank you for the comment, we will correct this misspelling.

      Reviewer#2

      1. Interpretation of neutrophil transcriptomic changes (Figure 2)

      The RNA-seq analysis reveals substantial downregulation of several canonical pro inflammatory pathways in neutrophils from psoriatic skin, including IL-6, IL-1, and type II interferon signaling. The authors should discuss the functional relevance of this unexpected transcriptional repression. For example, does this indicate a shift toward specialized effector functions rather than classical cytokine responsiveness? More importantly, the most striking transcriptional change is the upregulation of NADPH oxidase-related genes (e.g., Nox1, Nox3, Nox4, Enox2). This suggests an oxidative stress-driven pathogenic mechanism, potentially more relevant than IL-17A production. Yet this aspect is not explored in the manuscript. Assessing ROS levels or oxidative neutrophil effector functions in this model would considerably strengthen the mechanistic link. Conversely, although IL-17A is upregulated in neutrophils, neutrophil depletion reduces total Il17a expression in skin only partially. This indicates that neutrophils are unlikely to be the dominant IL-17A source in the lesion. The authors' focus on neutrophil-derived IL 17A therefore seems overstated. A more rigorous assessment-e.g., conditional deletion of Il17a specifically in neutrophils-would be required to establish its true contribution. Taken together, the data suggest that oxidative programs, rather than IL-17A production, may represent the principal pathogenic axis downstream of neutrophils, and this deserves deeper discussion.

      Author's response: Thank you for raising this valuable views. We have agreed to address these critical points by the following approaches:

      1) To address the changes in NADPH oxidase-related gene signature, we will measure ROS production in the neutrophils from skin and peripheral blood with DHR123.

      2) Responding to the IL17A contribution by neutrophils, we will flow cytometrically assess the Th17 and gamma/delta T cell population in the skin of psoriatic mice treated with anti-Ly6G or isotype-matched antibody as was suggested by Reviewer#1.

      3) We will discuss downregulation of the canonical pro inflammatory and IL-17 pathways in the psoriatic neutrophils in the discussion.

      Human data reanalysis (Figure 6):

      The re-analysis of bulk and single-cell RNA-seq datasets is valuable but incomplete. Several mechanistically relevant questions could be addressed with the available data:

      2.1. GM-CSF (CSF2) is also strongly upregulated in psoriatic lesions (bulk RNA-seq). It would be informative to determine whether endothelial cells also express CSF2 in the scRNA-seq dataset, as this would suggest coordinated regulation of myeloid-supporting cytokines.

      2.2. Myeloid cell subsets should be examined more closely. A comparison of human myeloid transcriptomes with the mouse neutrophil RNA-seq would clarify whether similar IL-17A-related or NADPH oxidase-related signatures occur in human disease. In particular, which cell types express IL17A in human lesions?

      2.3. Chemokine production should be attributed to specific cell types. Bulk RNA-seq confirms strong induction of CXCL1, CXCL2, CXCL5, but the scRNA-seq dataset allows determining whether these chemokines originate from endothelial cells or other stromal/immune populations. This information is important for defining whether endothelial cells coordinate both neutrophil recruitment and granulopoiesis.

      Addressing these points would make the human-mouse comparison substantially stronger.

      Author's response: Thank you for pointing these important issues. By reanalyzing the dataset, we found several points regarding the comments, as follows:

      2.1) CSF2 is expressed by T-cell cluster in the human skin dataset (Explanation Figure 4), in agreement with previous murine study (Hartwig et al. Cell Reports. 2018, PMID: 30590032). We will add this data in the revised manuscript.

      2.2) In line with point#10 from Reviewer#1, the dataset clearly shows T-cell cluster as the main IL17A source (Explanation Figure 4 above). The dataset, however, doesn't contain phenotypic neutrophils (CEACAM (CD66b) and PGLYRP1) but monocytes, macrophages, and dendritic cells (Explanation Figure 5 above). This loss was probably due to a technical limitation given the difficulty in capturing sequencing reads from fragile neutrophils. Therefore, it is no longer possible to reanalyze IL-17 expression in the absence of neutrophils in the datapool.

      2.3) Reanalysis of CXCLs in the human scRNAseq dataset (GSE173706) clarified their secretion dynamics and cellular sources under normal and psoriatic condition. In normal skin, all examined cell subsets show only low CXCLs expression. In contrast, psoriatic skin exhibits significant CXCLs upregulation with distinct cell subsets clearly showing dramatic upregulation, potentially being the major CXCLs source. CXCL1 is markedly upregulated in fibroblasts, myeloid cells, and melanocyte and nerve cells. CXCL2 is strikingly upregulated to myeloid cells, while CXCL5 is hugely increased in fibroblasts, myeloid cells, and mast cells (Explanation Figure 7). Taken together, these results suggest that CXCLs upregulation in the psoriatic skin is coordinatively executed by both stromal and immune compartments. Of note, the endothelial cells show minimal changes in CXCLs expression, even downregulate CXCL2 in psoriasis, indicating that they are unlikely to be the major contributor to CXCL-mediated neutrophil recruitment.

      **Referees cross-commenting**

      I agree with Reviewer 1 that the contribution of EC-derived G-CSF to circulating G-CSF levels and to emergency myelopoiesis requires additional genetic or neutralization experiments to be fully established.

      Author's response: We appreciate that Reviewer#2 raised this key point. In addition to examining the serum G-CSF upon intradermal anti-G-CSF administration in point#1 from Reviewer#1 above, we will also examine the emergency myelopoiesis signs in vivo.

      Minor points

      1. Line 319: the text likely refers to Figure S4, not S3.

      Author's response: Thank you, we will correct the nomenclature.

      Line 338: "psoriatic" is misspelled.

      Author's response: Thank you, we will change this to "psoriatic".

      Reviewer #3

      • Place the work in the context of the existing literature (provide references, where appropriate).

      Psoriasis is extensively studied, a good recent reference- https://doi.org/10.1016/j.mam.2024.101306

      Author's response: Thank you for Reviewer#3's suggestion. The referenced study highlights the current paradigm that largely focus on skin-restricted mechanism and overlook potential cross-organ interaction in the psoriasis inflammation. Our findings provide a new insight into the skin-bone marrow crosstalk in the disease context. In addition, the suggested reference underscores the key roles of diverse innate immune cells including neutrophils, eosinophils, dendritic cells, etc. which is fundamental for our study and might also guide future exploration of additional innate cell subsets beyond neutrophils. We will therefore include the mentioned reference to our revised manuscript.

      • Do you have suggestions that would help the authors improve the presentation of their data and conclusions?

      It is all good. May add graphical-abstract.

      Author's response: Thank you for the reviewer's input, we agree that a graphical-abstract will help the readers more clearly grasp the key messages of our manuscript. We will include it in the revised manuscript.

      Major comments:

      • Should the authors qualify some of their claims as preliminary or speculative, or remove them altogether?

      No. It is very solid.

      Author's response: We appreciate the reviewer's view that the claims in our paper are solid.

      • Would additional experiments be essential to support the claims of the paper? Request additional experiments only where necessary for the paper as it is, and do not ask authors to open new lines of experimentation.

      Such a discovery clearly opens many options, and it is fascinating to suggest additional experiments for future studies. It is a complete study, best to publish as-is and let many to read and proceed with this new concept.

      Author's response: We thank the reviewer for noting that the current experimental evidence is complete that no additional experiments are necessary at this stage. We agree that the discovery opens prospective directions for future studies.

      • Are the suggested experiments realistic in terms of time and resources? It would help if you could add an estimated cost and time investment for substantial experiments.

      N/A - I suggest no additional experiments at this point. Get it published and see how many will follow this new direction!

      Author's response: We thank the reviewer for recognizing that the experimental data has been sufficient to be a foundation for the future research.

      • Are the data and the methods presented in such a way that they can be reproduced?

      Yes.

      Author's response: We thank the reviewer for recognizing that our methods are reproducible.

      • Are the experiments adequately replicated, and is the statistical analysis adequate?

      Yes. The data are of very high quality.

      Author's response: We are grateful that the reviewer view our replication strategy and statistical analysis are of a high quality.

      Minor comments:

      • Specific experimental issues that are easily addressable.

      None. It is good as-is. One may always suggest minor things- but this one is better published so many laboratories may rush for this new direction. I think it will be interesting studying some long-term impacts, and changes not only of neutrophils but also of other innate cells, such as DCs, Macrophages, and Eosinophils - so it is best to let laboratories that focus on these cells know of the discovery and pursue independent studies.

      Author's response: We appreciate the reviewer's assessment that our paper is already well set for the community to explore the newly proposed direction.

      • Are the text and figures clear and accurate?

      Yes.

      Author's response: We thank the reviewer's evaluation. We have ensured that the text and figures in our manuscript are clear and accurate. Once again, we thank the reviewer for the encouraging and constructive appraisal. We are pleased that the reviewer find the manuscript has already been strong and suitable for publication.

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      Referee #3

      Evidence, reproducibility and clarity

      Summary:

      Provide a short summary of the findings and key conclusions (including methodology and model system(s) where appropriate).

      Study titled: "Skin-derived G-CSF activates pathological granulopoiesis upon psoriasis" by Kosasih and Takizawa. Paper show establishment of psoriasis model in C57BL/6 mice. They focus on neutrophils infiltration following the Imiquimod cream induction. Importantly, authors show that the induction of psoriasis in the skin cause a robust enhancement of granulopoiesis in the bone marrow. Mechanistically, G-CSF is produced in the skin, especially by endothelial cells. Blocking of G-CSF gained clear inhibition of psoriatic pathology. They further add human data showing that patient with psoriasis have more neutrophils and more G-CSF in their skin endothelial cells.

      Parts of the study are simply in line with previous knowledge (e.g.- neutrophils infiltration into psoriatic skin, IL17a). authors show some data that largely confirm the model used. Major discovery: skin endothelial cells are secreting G-CSF that induce granulopoiesis in the bone-marrow. This is a conceptual advancement of this study: psoriatic skin not only recruit neutrophils from the blood, but also enhance the generation of new neutrophils in the bone-marrow. That a major- psoriasis at the level of the model used must not be considered as a confined-pathology. It affect systematically, and might also benefit new systemic treatments. There are plenty of follow-up experiments to pursue now, so it is critical to publish this finding and let many laboratories to know of this new direction. I expect this study to attract high interest and many citations.

      Major comments:

      • Are the key conclusions convincing?

      Yes. The study has excellent data, with good quantification, and very solid support for the discovery and interpretations. - Should the authors qualify some of their claims as preliminary or speculative, or remove them altogether?

      No. It is very solid. - Would additional experiments be essential to support the claims of the paper? Request additional experiments only where necessary for the paper as it is, and do not ask authors to open new lines of experimentation.

      Such a discovery clearly opens many options, and it is fascinating to suggest additional experiments for future studies. It is a complete study, best to publish as-is and let many to read and proceed with this new concept. - Are the suggested experiments realistic in terms of time and resources? It would help if you could add an estimated cost and time investment for substantial experiments.

      N/A - I suggest no additional experiments at this point. Get it published and see how many will follow this new direction! - Are the data and the methods presented in such a way that they can be reproduced?

      Yes. - Are the experiments adequately replicated, and is the statistical analysis adequate?

      Yes. The data are of very high quality.

      Minor comments:

      • Specific experimental issues that are easily addressable.

      None. It is good as-is. One may always suggest minor things- but this one is better published so many laboratories may rush for this new direction. I think it will be interesting studying some long-term impacts, and changes not only of neutrophils but also of other innate cells, such as DCs, Macrophages, and Eosinophils - so it is best to let laboratories that focus on these cells know of the discovery and pursue independent studies. - Are prior studies referenced appropriately?

      Yes. I may suggest adding a recent review by Park and Jung, 2024, https://doi.org/10.1016/j.mam.2024.101306 to cover current concepts of innate immunity in psoriasis. - Are the text and figures clear and accurate?

      Yes. - Do you have suggestions that would help the authors improve the presentation of their data and conclusions?

      It is all good. May add graphical-abstract.

      Significance

      • Describe the nature and significance of the advance (e.g., conceptual, technical, clinical) for the field.

      Conceptual advancement - discovery of a major impact of psoriasis on bone-marrow granulopoiesis. Explicit finding of endothelial-cells G-CSF as a major communication moiety.

      Neutrophil recruitment and IL17A are well established. G-CSF of endothelial cells brings the conceptual advancement- psoriasis at the level induced by IMQ develops local pathology, but is tightly linked to systemic changes. The impact on bone-marrow granulopoiesis may have many implications. So far, it was largely considered that chronic inflammation may affect hematopoiesis, but this study reveals an acute and specific communication between skin and bone marrow. The neutrophils are not only recruited from blood- they are made anew, so the disease is enhanced significantly! This discovery led to a novel basic understanding and suggests novel therapeutic options. - State what audience might be interested in and influenced by the reported findings.

      Dermatologist, immunologist, haematologist - this one goes for a broad audience. - Define your field of expertise with a few keywords to help the authors contextualize your point of view. Indicate if there are any parts of the paper that you do not have sufficient expertise to evaluate.

      Immunology and hematology. I am not an expert of dermatology.

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      Referee #2

      Evidence, reproducibility and clarity

      General assessment

      This is a well-written and carefully executed study that identifies skin-derived G-CSF as a key driver of pathological emergency granulopoiesis in an imiquimod-induced mouse model of psoriasis. The authors convincingly show that endothelial cells are the dominant source of G-CSF in inflamed skin, and that this cytokine mediates systemic hematopoietic skewing and neutrophil accumulation, ultimately aggravating psoriatic pathology. The eanalysis of human transcriptomic datasets strengthens the translational relevance of the findings. Overall, the conclusions are well supported by the data. However, several mechanistically relevant aspects remain underexplored, particularly regarding the functional state of psoriatic neutrophils and the human data integration. Addressing these points would substantially enhance the impact of the study.

      Major points

      1. Interpretation of neutrophil transcriptomic changes (Figure 2)

      The RNA-seq analysis reveals substantial downregulation of several canonical proinflammatory pathways in neutrophils from psoriatic skin, including IL-6, IL-1, and type II interferon signaling. The authors should discuss the functional relevance of this unexpected transcriptional repression. For example, does this indicate a shift toward specialized effector functions rather than classical cytokine responsiveness? More importantly, the most striking transcriptional change is the upregulation of NADPH oxidase-related genes (e.g., Nox1, Nox3, Nox4, Enox2). This suggests an oxidativestress-driven pathogenic mechanism, potentially more relevant than IL-17A production. Yet this aspect is not explored in the manuscript. Assessing ROS levels or oxidative neutrophil effector functions in this model would considerably strengthen the mechanistic link.

      Conversely, although IL-17A is upregulated in neutrophils, neutrophil depletion reduces total Il17a expression in skin only partially. This indicates that neutrophils are unlikely to be the dominant IL-17A source in the lesion. The authors' focus on neutrophil-derived IL17A therefore seems overstated. A more rigorous assessment-e.g., conditional deletion of Il17a specifically in neutrophils-would be required to establish its true contribution. Taken together, the data suggest that oxidative programs, rather than IL-17A production, may represent the principal pathogenic axis downstream of neutrophils, and this deserves deeper discussion. 2. Human data reanalysis (Figure 6):

      The re-analysis of bulk and single-cell RNA-seq datasets is valuable but incomplete.

      Several mechanistically relevant questions could be addressed with the available data:

      2.1. GM-CSF (CSF2) is also strongly upregulated in psoriatic lesions (bulk RNA-seq). It would be informative to determine whether endothelial cells also express CSF2 in the scRNA-seq dataset, as this would suggest coordinated regulation of myeloid-supporting cytokines.

      2.2. Myeloid cell subsets should be examined more closely. A comparison of human myeloid transcriptomes with the mouse neutrophil RNA-seq would clarify whether similar IL-17A-related or NADPH oxidase-related signatures occur in human disease. In particular, which cell types express IL17A in human lesions?

      2.3. Chemokine production should be attributed to specific cell types. Bulk RNA-seq confirms strong induction of CXCL1, CXCL2, CXCL5, but the scRNA-seq dataset allows determining whether these chemokines originate from endothelial cells or other stromal/immune populations. This information is important for defining whether endothelial cells coordinate both neutrophil recruitment and granulopoiesis. Addressing these points would make the human-mouse comparison substantially stronger.

      Minor points

      1. Line 319: the text likely refers to Figure S4, not S3.
      2. Line 338: "psoriatic" is misspelled.

      Referees cross-commenting

      I agree with Reviewer 1 that the contribution of EC-derived G-CSF to circulating G-CSF levels and to emergency myelopoiesis requires additional genetic or neutralization experiments to be fully established.

      Significance

      The study is solid and potentially impactful, particularly for audiences working in inflammation and hematopoiesis, as it uncovers a cross-organ mechanism linking skinderived G-CSF to emergency granulopoiesis in psoriasis. My expertise lies in inflammation and hematopoiesis, and from this perspective several essential mechanistic issues remain insufficiently addressed. In particular, the neutrophil transcriptomic data highlight strong induction of NADPH oxidase-related pathways, which appears more biologically meaningful than the modest Il17a upregulation emphasized by the authors. Likewise, the human RNA-seq reanalyses leave open key questions regarding CSF2 expression, myeloid heterogeneity, and chemokine cellular sources. These issues affect the strength and interpretation of the central claims. For these reasons, I recommend major revision before the manuscript can be considered further.

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      Referee #1

      Evidence, reproducibility and clarity

      Summary:

      A role of neutrophils in psoriasis pathogenesis has been highlighted by several past studies; however, how the neutrophils are recruited to the affected skin has not been fully understood. The work by Kosasih et al. tackles a relevant question and has investigated the effect of psoriatic skin inflammation on BM myelopoiesis. Using an IMQ-induced acute psoriasis mouse model, the authors derive 3 major conclusions: (1) skin ECs secrete G-CSF into circulation in response to psoriatic stress, (2) skin EC-derived G-CSF stimulates emergency granulopoiesis, and (3) skin EC-derived G-CSF induces infiltration and accumulation of pathogenic neutrophils in the affected skin. The authors provide many pieces of interesting data, but most of them remain correlative and insufficient to support the conclusions. Many of the experiments were performed in a small number of samples or mice (mostly with n=3), leaving the story still preliminary.

      Major comments:

      1. First, the authors have not convincingly shown that skin cells, or more specifically skin ECs, are a major source of circulating G-CSF in the psoriasis model as stated in the title and abstract. The data in Figure 4 show selective upregulation of Csf3 gene in skin ECs and their ability to secrete G-CSF upon IMQ treatment in vitro. However, the provided data do not address to what degree the skin EC-derived G-CSF contributes to the elevated level of circulating G-CSF. Additional experiments to selectively deplete G-CSF in skin ECs, or at least in skin cells of the affected site, are warranted to support the authors' claim. Does intradermal injection of G-CSF neutralizing antibody into the psoriatic skin reduce circulating levels of G-CSF?
      2. Another concern is insufficient demonstration of G-CSF-mediated emergency granulopoiesis in the psoriasis model. All data in Figure 5 were obtained from experiments with only n=3, and adding more replicates, in particular to those in Figure 5B, which show quite some variation in MPP numbers, is recommended. The relatively small reduction of BM granulocyte numbers (Figure 5C) compared to greater depletion of circulating granulocytes (Figure S5A) raises the possibility that it is the mobilization effect rather than granulopoiesis-stimulating effect that skin-derived G-CSF exerts to promote supply of circulating neutrophils that eventually infiltrate into the affected skin. This could also explain the negligible effect of IL-1blockade (Figure S4), which selectively shut off myelopoiesis-stimulating effect of IL-1 (Pietras et al. Nat Cell Biol 2016, PMID: 27111842). Are the HSPCs in the psoriasis model more cycling? Do they show myeloid-skewed differentiation when cultured ex vivo or upon transplantation?
      3. The authors' claim that skin-derived G-CSF "induces" neutrophil infiltration warrants further clarification. Alternative explanation is that the upregulated neutrophil-attracting chemokines (Figure S1D) could induce infiltration, whereas G-CSF increase the number of neutrophils to circulate in the vessels near the psoriatic skin. This notion seems supported elsewhere (Moos et al. J Invest Dermatol. 2019, PMID: 30684554). Can the infiltration be inhibited by systemically injecting neutralizing antibody of their receptor, CXCR2?
      4. It remains unclear how skin-derived G-CSF accumulates pathogenic neutrophils. The authors state "pathogenic granulopoiesis," but are the circulating neutrophils in the psoriatic mice already "pathogenic" or do they acquire pathogenic phenotype after cutaneous infiltration? Additional RNA-seq to compare circulating and infiltrated neutrophils would answer this question.
      5. In addition, how the accumulated pathogenic neutrophils exacerbate the psoriatic changes remains obscure. Although the authors have attempted to correlate Il17a gene expression in infiltrated neutrophils with psoriatic skin changes, the data do not address to what degree it contributes to cutaneous IL-17A protein levels. The data that cutaneous neutrophil depletion leads to subtle decrease in skin IL-17A expression (Figure 2H) rather supports alternative possibilities. For instance, as indicated elsewhere, IL-17A cutaneous tone could be enhanced by neutrophil-mediated augmentation of Th17 or gamma/delta T cell function (Lambert et al. J Invest Dermatol. 2019, PMID: 30528823). Does neutrophil depletion or G-CSF neutralization alter cell numbers or function of cutaneous Th17 and gamma/delta T cells?
      6. Finally, as the above conclusions rely solely on the IMQ-induced acute psoriasis model, it would be informative if they could be derived from another psoriasis model. IMQ is known to induce unintended systemic inflammation due to grooming-associated ingestion (Gangwar et al. J Invest Dermatol. 2022, PMID: 34953514), and "pathological crosstalk between skin and BM in psoriatic inflammation" could be strengthened by an intradermal injection model.

      Minor comments:

      1. Figure 1E shows multiple elongated Ly6G+ structures in d0-2 control and d0 IMQ skins that do not appear to be neutrophils.
      2. In Figure 2C, the bottom GSEA seems to be showing type II IFN response, not type I IFN, according to the text.
      3. For the BM analysis in Figures 3, 5, S3, and S5, it would be informative if BM cellularity and numbers of committed myeloid progenitors (e.g., GMPs) are shown.
      4. In Figures 6B, in which cluster of human skin cells IL-17A expression would be enriched?

      Significance

      Although quite a few studies have reported various examples of emergency myelopoiesis (Swann et al. Nat Rev Immunol. 2024, PMID: 38467802), there is limited evidence on its occurrence and involvement in locally restricted disease, such as periodontitis (Li et al. Cell 2022, PMID: 35483374; 35483374). As an HSC biologist, I see this study is conceptually interesting as it could extend the above concept to psoriasis, a non-infectious, local inflammatory disease in the skin, and describes a potential causal link between skin-derived G-CSF and emergency myelopoiesis. That said, as detailed in the first section, the conclusions, especially that related to emergency myelopoiesis driven by skin-derived G-CSF, need to be more convincingly supported before taking its value. The findings offer additional understanding of how psoriasis is developed in concert with aberrant hematopoiesis and will be relevant to those working in the field of dermatology, immunology, and hematology.

    1. Growth of the mutant lines and wildtype is presented in terms of biomass productivity (BP, gDW L−1 day−1), calculated as the product of their specific growth rate (µ, day−1) and biomass concentration (B, gDW L−1) at the end of the cultivation period, following Equation 1

      Here biomass productivity is calculated as u (growth rate) x B_end, but the more common way to calculate BP is B_end - B_start / time. u x B could overstate productivity and/or make comparisons phase-sensitive. Sometimes those early timepoints may be harder to collect/quantify, but is it known that the cultures are in exponential phase for the duration of the experiment?

    1. However, the history of black counter-historicalprojects is one of failure, precisely because these accounts have never been able to installthemselves as history, but rather are insurgent, disruptive narratives that are marginalized andderailed before they ever gain a footing.

      Official archives privilege dominant voices while silencing marginalized ones. Black counter-historical projects attempts to tell history from the perspective of the oppressed are described here as “insurgent” and “disruptive,” but they fail to become recognized as history because the archive itself is structured to exclude them.

    2. The furtive communicationthat might have passed between two girls, but which no one among the crew observed orreported affirms what we already know to be true:

      Knowledge comes from bodies, trauma, survival, and intimacy. The possibility of communication between the girls is part of that embodied knowledge; truths carried in relationships, even if undocumented.

    3. The promiscuity of the archive begets a wide array of reading, but none that are capable ofresuscitating the girl

      Feminist epistemology values oral traditions, embodied knowledge, and storytelling. This line underscores the impossibility of fully recovering erased lives through archival reading alone, pointing to the need for imaginative, disruptive methods.

    4. The necessity of recounting Venus’s death is overshadowed by the inevitable failure of anyattempt to represent her.

      Knowledge comes from bodies, trauma, and survival. Venus’s body is central to the story, but colonialism reduced it to an object. Representing her means confronting that violence while acknowledging its limits.

    5. The intent of this practice is not to give voice to the slave, but rather to imagine whatcannot be verified, a realm of experience which is situated between two zones of death—socialand corporeal death—and to reckon with the precarious lives which are visible only in themoment of their disappearance.

      Colonialism and slavery highlight how bodies were commodified and dehumanized. “Social death” refers to being stripped of identity, kinship, and recognition; “corporeal death” is literal death. This line situates enslaved lives in the precarious space between those two forms of violence.

    6. But in the end I was forced toadmit that I wanted to console myself and to escape the slave hold with a vision of somethingother than the bodies of two girls settling on the floor of the Atlantic.

      The “slave hold” represents the commodification of human beings under colonialism. The line shows how even attempts to narrate history are haunted by the violence of turning lives into cargo, bodies into waste.

    7. As I understand it, a history of the present strives to illuminate theintimacy of our experience with the lives of the dead, to write our now as it is interrupted bythis past, and to imagine a free state, not as the time before captivity or slavery, but rather asthe anticipated future of this writing.

      Knowledge comes from lived experience, trauma, and survival. This line echoes that by insisting that the present is always entangled with embodied histories of violence and survival.

    1. mice

      Nice result! Do you have any idea why the sulfatase acitivity wouldn't be rescued but you can see this dramatic improvement in the downstream product levels? Is this a matter of assay sensitivity, or is something else going on?

    1. However, this is not the case for every point on the Earth’s surface. Large-scale patterns of variation exist, and one fundamental source of variation is with latitude. Video 2.1.4 in the following activity is an animation of monthly net radiation across the globe between 2000 and 2015. The data are from the Clouds and the Earth’s Radiant Energy System (CERES) sensors on NASA’s Aqua and Terra satellites. Net radiation is the difference between incoming solar radiation and outgoing terrestrial radiation. Positive values mean incoming solar radiation exceeds outgoing terrestrial radiation at that location, and negative values mean outgoing terrestrial radiation exceeds incoming solar radiation.

      Earths energy budget is balanced apart from outgoing radiation due to theincreate in greenhhouse gas levels But it's not for everywhere on earth, large scale variation exisits and one fundamental source of this is latitude

      Net radiation is the different between incoming SR and outgoing TR

    2. The energy budget can be determined at different timescales but is usually averaged over one or more years to account for seasonal effects. This is known as the steady-state condition. It does not mean that the atmosphere is unchanging, but that these variations average out and it is not in a rapid transition to a different state.

      Energy budget is determined at steady state across one or more years to account for seasonal affects

    3. In fact, −20 °C is a good estimate of the average tropospheric temperature from the surface to the tropopause (recall Figure 2.1.8), where long-wave radiation is also emitted to space. But as we have seen, gases in the atmosphere are absorbing and re-emitting radiation. Carbon dioxide and water vapour are particularly effective at absorbing the long-wave infrared radiation that is emitted by the Earth, which is then re-emitted both to space and back to Earth, warming the surface. Therefore, the surface is actually about 35 °C warmer than the black-body temperature of the Earth because of infrared absorption and re-emission within the atmosphere. This is the natural greenhouse effect, which is one of the most important impacts of the atmosphere on the environment. Thus, the atmosphere is far more than a thin, almost transparent layer of gas; without it, the Earth’s surface would have an average temperature of −18 °C.

      -20 is the average torposphere temp, from the surface to tropoause, where LW radiation is emitted to space But gases absorb and remit radation (water/co2) meaning the surface is actually 35 waremer than blackboduy temp of earth which is the greenhosue effect. Without the atmopshere the earhts surface tempw ould be -18.

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    1. Ted Chiang. Will A.I. Become the New McKinsey? The New Yorker, May 2023. URL: https://www.newyorker.com/science/annals-of-artificial-intelligence/will-ai-become-the-new-mckinsey (visited on 2023-12-10).

      Based on my own experiences I can positively say that AI is the ruins of this earth. I used to use AI to help me rephrase a prompt or question I didn't understand on its own. However with time I realized this only allowed my comprehension skills to worsen or more so rely on AI to further explain it to me. In the beginning I said hm maybe this is okay because it's like the teacher explaining the prompt to me in a more detailed manner, which is what I needed. But no, I became overly dependent on AI. So I stopped. It was genuinely scary.

    1. Inventors ignoring the ethical consequences of their creations is nothing new as well, and gets critiqued regularly:

      Touching on this, I don't understand why this happens. The level of severeness is at an ultimate level, and the developers know this every time. I get that the excitement of trying to see of they can create this new thing is what blinds them but why is there no job position that specifically focuses on making sure they don't create something that will not be ethical in the long run or near future. It should be made so that it is preventable by a committee who isn't so blinded by the project and is focused on the ethics.

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    1. John Smith (explorer). December 2023. Page Version ID: 1189283105. URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=John_Smith_(explorer)&oldid=1189283105 (visited on 2023-12-10).

      Reading John Smith, I realized how times have not changed. How they stated, "If he have nothing but his hands, he may...by industries quickly grow rich" People in corporate now are still the same-- they are able to grow rich through the industries. And everyone else stays beneath even if working twice as hard. It seemed like a genuine talk he had but it has become so toxic

    1. We have seen that sky appears blue on a clear day due to the more extensive scattering of short-wavelength light. On the other hand, when looking at the Sun when it is close to the horizon at sunrise or sunset, the light has to pass through more of the atmosphere than when directly overhead, which increases the amount of Rayleigh scattering. More blue and violet light is scattered out from the direct beams travelling towards you, and proportionally more (longer-wavelength) red and orange light reaches your eyes (Figure 2.1.18).

      SW blue light is a clear day, but as sunrise/set the light has to pass through more atmospehre and rayleigh scattering increases, so more LW red and orange reaches us

    2. The atmosphere is, however, a relatively good absorber of long-wave (infrared) radiation, due principally to carbon dioxide and water vapour, and these gases absorb much of the long-wave radiation emitted by the Earth. Because the atmosphere is largely transparent to short-wave (solar) radiation but absorbs more long-wave radiation, the atmosphere is heated from the ground up. Water vapour, which is more concentrated near the Earth’s surface, absorbs about 60% of the radiation emitted by the Earth and is the gas mainly responsible for warm temperatures in the lower troposphere. As you move further away from the surface, the temperature drops, as we saw in Study session 2.1.2. The fact that the atmosphere receives most of its energy from the Earth’s surface, rather than directly from the Sun, is critical for driving weather processes.

      Atmosphere is very good at absorbing long wave infrared radiation due to carbon dioxide & water vapur Because the atmosphere is mostly transpoarent to short wave radiation, but it does absorb long wave, it heats from the group up. Water vapour, espeically at the earths surface, absorbs 60% of radiation emited by earth and is the gas mainly respoinble for warmer temps inteh lower troposphere Becase the atmosphere gets most of its energy from the surface and not directly the sun it is critical for driving weather processes.

    3. In Figure 2.1.17 the absorption features of gases are smoothed for clarity and are actually comprised of numerous extremely fine lines, which merge into the larger features seen on the curve. The peaks in a gas’s absorption spectrum correspond to specific vibrational and rotational transitions of its molecules. Each transition occurs at a characteristic energy and therefore at a specific wavelength (or frequency) of electromagnetic radiation.

      The image is curved but is actually lots of little lines

      Peaks in gas absorption spectrum correspond to specific vibrational and rotational transitions of its molecules, with each occuring at a characteristic energy and specific WL of EMR

    4. Visible light appears white but is composed of all colours. Surfaces that reflect all wavelengths therefore appear white, and surfaces that absorb all wavelengths appear dark. Surfaces or compounds that absorb less, and reflect or scatter more, of a particular wavelength appear the colour of that wavelength. Plants are green, for example, because the chlorophyll in leaves absorbs more blue and red light than green. In the atmosphere, gas molecules scatter the short-wavelength blue and violet light more effectively than the longer-wavelength red and orange light. That is why the sky appears blue on a clear day when looking in any direction other than directly at the Sun, as more of the shorter-wavelength radiation is being scattered by the atmosphere (Figure 2.1.16).

      White absorbs all colours and darker clours don't

      Chlorophyll absorbs more blue and red so it appears green

      the sky is blue because gas scxatter blue and violet more effectively than the longerwave orange lights

    1. These business owners then hire wage laborers [s2] at predetermined rates for their work, while the owners get the excess business profits or losses.

      Business owners then hiring wage laborers at predetermined rates for their work, while the owners get the excess business profits makes my blood boil. Relating this back to my experiences, working for target was my worst nightmare. It was the biggest, busiest, target in Seattle. We were being pushed to extreme workloads by higher ups like crazy. For such little pay. It was infuriating. But of course Target was making millions a day within this target.

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      Reviewer #1 (Evidence, reproducibility and clarity (Required)):

      Summary The manuscript by Aarts et al. explores the role of GRHL2 as a regulator of the progesterone receptor (PR) in breast cancer cells. The authors show that GRHL2 and PR interact in a hormone-independent manner and based on genomic analyses, propose that they co-regulate target genes via chromatin looping. To support this model, the study integrates both newly generated and previously published datasets, including ChIP-seq, CUT&RUN, RNA-seq, and chromatin interaction assays, in breast cancer cell models (T47DS and T47D).

      Major comments: R1.1 Novelty of GRHL2 in steroid receptor biology The role of GRHL2 as a co-regulator of steroid hormone receptors has previously been described for ER (J Endocr Soc. 2021;5(Suppl 1):A819) and AR (Cancer Res. 2017;77:3417-3430). In the ER study, the authors also employed a GRHL2 ΔTAD T47D cell model. Therefore, while this manuscript extends GRHL2 involvement to PR, the contribution appears incremental rather than conceptual.

      We are fully aware of the previously described role of GRHL2 as a co-regulator of steroid hormone receptors, particularly ER and AR. As acknowledged in our introduction (lines 104-108), we explicitly state: "Grainyhead-like 2 (GRHL2) has recently emerged as a potential pioneer factor in hormone receptor-positive cancers, including breast cancer21. However, nearly all studies to date have focused on GRHL2 in the context of ER and estrogen signaling, leaving its role in PR- and progesterone-mediated regulation unexplored22-26".

      As for the specific publications that the reviewer refers to: The first refers to an abstract from an annual meeting of the Endocrine Society. As we have been unable to assess the original data underpinning the abstract - including the mentioned GRHL2 DTAD model - we prefer not to cite this particular reference. We do cite other work by the same authors (Reese et al. 2022, our ref. 25). We also cite the AR study mentioned by the reviewer (our ref. 55) in our discussion. As such, we think we do give credit to prior work done in this area.

      By characterizing GRHL2 as a co-regulator of the progesterone receptor (PR), we expand on the current understanding of GRHL2 as a common transcriptional regulator within the broader context of steroid hormone receptor biology. Given that ER and PR are frequently co-expressed and active within the same breast cancer cells, our findings raise the important possibility that GRHL2 may actively coordinate or modulate the balance between ER- and PR-driven transcriptional programs, as postulated in the discussion paragraph.

      Importantly, we also functionally link PR/GRHL2-bound enhancers to their target genes (Fig5), providing novel insights into the downstream regulatory networks influenced by this interaction. These results not only offer a deeper mechanistic understanding of PR signaling in breast cancer but also lay the groundwork for future comparative analyses between GRHL2's role in ER-, AR-, and PR-mediated gene regulation.

      As such, we respectfully suggest that our work offers more than an incremental advance in our knowledge and understanding of GRHL2 and steroid hormone receptor biology.

      R1.2 Mechanistic depth The study provides limited mechanistic insight into how GRHL2 functions as a PR co-regulator. Key mechanistic questions remain unaddressed, such as whether GRHL2 modulates PR activation, the sequential recruitment of co-activators/co-repressors, engages chromatin remodelers, or alters PR DNA-binding dynamics. Incorporating these analyses would considerably strengthen the mechanistic conclusions.

      Although our RNA-seq data demonstrate that GRHL2 modulates the expression of PR target genes, and our CUT&RUN experiments show that GRHL2 chromatin binding is reshaped upon R5020 exposure, we acknowledge that we have not further dissected the molecular mechanisms by which GRHL2 functions as a PR co-regulator.

      We did consider several follow-up experiments to address this, including PR CUT&RUN in GRHL2 knockdown cells, CUT&RUN for known co-activators such as KMT2C/D and P300, as well as functional studies involving GRHL2 TAD and DBD mutants. However, due to technical and logistical challenges, we were unable to carry out these experiments within the timeframe of this study.

      That said, we fully recognize that such approaches would provide deeper mechanistic insight into the interplay between PR and GRHL2. We have therefore explicitly acknowledged this limitation in our limitations of the study section (line 502-507) and mention this as an important avenue for future investigation.

      R1.3 Definition of GRHL2-PR regulatory regions (Figure 2) The 6,335 loci defined as GRHL2-PR co-regulatory regions are derived from a PR ChIP-seq performed in the presence of hormone and a GRHL2 ChIP-seq performed in its absence. This approach raises doubts about whether GRHL2 and PR actually co-occupy these regions under ligand stimulation. GRHL2 ChIP-seq experiments in both hormone-treated and untreated conditions are necessary to provide stronger support for this conclusion.

      Although bulk ChIP-seq cannot definitively demonstrate simultaneous binding of PR and GRHL2 at the same genomic regions, we agree that the ChIP-seq experiments we present do not provide a definitive answer on if GRHL2 and PR co-occupy these regions under ligand stimulation. As a first step to address this, we performed CUT&RUN experiments for both GRHL2 and PR under untreated and R5020-treated conditions. These experiments revealed a subset of overlapping PR and GRHL2 binding sites (approximately {plus minus}5% of the identified PR peaks under ligand stimulation).

      We specifically chose CUT&RUN to minimize artifacts from crosslinking and sonication, thereby reducing background and enabling the mapping of high-confidence direct DNA-binding events: Given that a fraction of GRHL2 physically interacts with PR (Fig1D), it is possible that ChIP-seq detects indirect binding of GRHL2 at PR-bound sites and vice versa. CUT&RUN, by contrast, allows us to identify direct binding sites with higher confidence.

      Nonetheless, although outside the scope of the current manuscript, we agree that a dedicated GRHL2 ChIP with and without ligand stimulation would provide additional insight, and we have accordingly added this suggestion to the discussion (line 502-507).

      R1.4 Cell model considerations The manuscript relies heavily on the T47DS subclone, which expresses markedly higher PR levels than parental T47D cells (Aarts et al., J Mammary Gland Biol Neoplasia 2023; Kalkhoven et al., Int J Cancer 1995). This raises concerns about physiological relevance. Key findings, including co-IP and qPCR-ChIP experiments, should be validated in additional breast cancer models such as parental T47D, BT474, and MCF-7 cells to generalize the conclusions. Furthermore, data obtained from T47D (PR ChIP-seq, HiChIP, CTCF and Rad21 ChIP-seq) and T47DS (RNA-seq, CUT&RUN) are combined along the manuscript. Given the substantial differences in PR expression between these cell lines, this approach is problematic and should be reconsidered.

      We agree that physiological relevance is important to consider. Here, all existing model systems have some limitations. In our experience, it is technically challenging to robustly measure gene expression changes in parental T47D cells (or MCF7 cells, for that matter) in response to progesterone stimulation (Aarts et al., J Mammary Gland Biol Neoplasia 2023). As we set out to integrate PR and GRHL2 binding to downstream target gene induction, we therefore opted for the most progesterone responsive model system (T47DS cells). We agree that observations made in T47D and T47DS cells should not be overinterpreted and require further validation. We have now explicitly acknowledged this and added it to the discussion (line 507-509).

      As for the reviewer's suggestion to use MCF7 cells: apart from its suboptimal PR-responsiveness, this cell line is also known to harbor GRHL2 amplification, resulting in elevated GRHL2 levels (Reese et al., Endocrinology2019). By that line of reasoning, the use of MCF7 cells would also introduce concerns about physiological relevance. That being said, and as noted in the discussion (line 390-391), the study by Mohammed et al. which identified GRHL2 as a PR interactor using RIME, was performed in both MCF7 and T47D cells. This further supports the notion that the PR-GRHL2 interaction is not limited to a single cell line.

      R1.5 CUT&RUN vs ChIP-seq data The CUT&RUN experiments identify fewer than 10% of the PR binding sites reported in the ChIP-seq datasets. This discrepancy likely results from methodological differences (e.g., absence of crosslinking, potential loss of weaker binding events). The overlap of only 158 sites between PR and GRHL2 under hormone treatment (Figure 3B) provides limited support for the proposed model and should be interpreted with greater caution.

      We acknowledge the discrepancy between the number of binding sites between ChIP-seq and CUT&RUN. Indeed, methodological differences likely contribute to the differences in PR binding sites reported between the ChIP-seq and CUT&RUN datasets. As the reviewer correctly notes, the absence of crosslinking and sonication in CUT&RUN reduces detection of weaker binding events. However, it also reduces the detection of indirect binding events which could increase the reported number of peaks in ChIPseq data (e.g. the common presence of "shadow peaks").

      As also discussed in our response to R1.3, we deliberately chose the CUT&RUN approach to enable the identification of high-confidence direct DNA-binding events. Since GRHL2 physically interacts with PR, ChIP-seq could potentially capture indirect binding of GRHL2 at PR-bound sites, and vice versa. By contrast, CUT&RUN primarily captures direct DNA-protein interactions, offering a more specific binding profile. Thus, while the number of CUT&RUN binding sites is much smaller than previously reported by ChIP-seq, we are confident that they represent true, direct binding events.

      We would also like to emphasize that the model presented in figure 6 does not represent a generic or random gene, but rather a specific gene that is co-regulated by both GRHL2 and PR. In this specific case, regulation is proposed to occur via looping interactions from either individual TF-bound sites (e.g., PR-only or GRHL2-only) or shared GRHL2/PR sites. We do not propose that only shared sites are functionally relevant, nor do we assume that GRHL2 and PR must both be directly bound to DNA at these shared sites. Therefore, overlapping sites identified by ChIP-seq-potentially reflecting indirect binding events-could indeed be missed by CUT&RUN, yet still contribute to gene regulation. To clarify this, we have revised the main text (line 331-334) and the legend of Figure 6 to explicitly state that the model refers to a gene with established co-regulation by both GRHL2 and PR.

      R1.6 Gene expression analyses (Figure 4) The RNA-seq analysis after 24 hours of hormone treatment likely captures indirect or secondary effects rather than the direct PR-GRHL2 regulatory program. Including earlier time points (e.g., 4-hour induction) in the analysis would better capture primary transcriptional responses. The criteria used to define PR-GRHL2 co-regulated genes are not convincing and may not reflect the regulatory interactions proposed in the model. Strong basal expression changes in GRHL2-depleted cells suggest that much of the transcriptional response is PR-independent, conflicting with the model (Figure 6). A more straightforward approach would be to define hormone-regulated genes in shControl cells and then examine their response in GRHL2-depleted cells. Finally, integrating chromatin accessibility and histone modification datasets (e.g., ATAC-seq, H3K27ac ChIP-seq) would help establish whether PR-GRHL2-bound regions correspond to active enhancers, providing stronger functional support for the proposed regulatory model.

      We thank the reviewer for pointing this out. We now recognize that our criteria for selecting PR/GRHL2 co-regulated genes were not clearly described. To address this, we have revised our approach as per the reviewer's suggestion: we first identified early and sustained PR target genes based on their response at 4 and 24 hours of induction and subsequently overlaid this list with the gene expression changes observed in GRHL2-depleted cells. This revised approach reduced the amount of PR-responsive, GRHL2 regulated target genes from 549 to 298 (46% reduction). We consequently updated all following analyses, resulting in revised figures 4 and 5 and supplementary figures 2,3 and 4. As a result of this revised approach, the number of genes that are transcriptionally regulated by GRHL2 and PR (RNAseq data) that also harbor a PR loop anchor at or near their TSS after 30 minutes of progesterone stimulation (PR HiChIP data) dropped from 114 to 79 (30% reduction). We thank the reviewer for suggesting this more straightforward approach and want to emphasize that our overall conclusions remain unaltered.

      As above in our response to R1.3, we want to emphasize that the model presented in figure 6 does not depict a generic or randomly chosen gene, but a gene that is specifically co-regulated by both GRHL2 and PR. We also want to emphasize that the majority of GRHL2's transcriptional activity is PR-independent. This is consistent with the limited fraction of GRHL2 that co-immunoprecipitated with PR (Figure 1D), and with the well-established roles of GRHL2 beyond steroid receptor signaling. In fact, the overall importance of GRHL2 for cell viability in T47D(S) cells is underscored by our inability to generate a full knockout (multiple failed attempts of CRISPR/Cas mediated GRHL2 deletion in T47D(S) and MCF7 cells), and by the strong selection we observed against high-level GRHL2 knockdown using shRNA.

      As for the reviewer's suggestion to assess whether GRHL2/PR co-bound regions correspond to active enhancers by integrating H3K27ac and ATAC-seq data: We have re-analyzed publicly available H3K27ac and ATAC-seq datasets from T47D cells (references 42 and 43). These analyses are now added to figure 2 (F and G). The H3K27Ac profile suggests that GRHL2-PR overlapping sites indeed correspond to more active enhancers (Figure 2F), with a proposed role for GRHL2 since siGRHL2 affects the accessibility of these sites (Figure 2G).

      Minor comments Page 19: The statement that "PR and GRHL2 trigger extensive chromatin reorganization" is not experimentally supported. ATAC-seq would be an appropriate method to test this directly.

      We agree with the reviewer and have removed this sentence, as it does not contribute meaningfully to the flow of the manuscript.

      Prior literature on GRHL2 as a steroid receptor co-regulator should be discussed more thoroughly.

      We now added additional literature on GRHL2 as a steroid hormone receptor co-regulator in the discussion (line 397-401) and we cite the papers suggested by R1 in R1.1 (references 25 and 54).

      Reviewer #1 (Significance (Required)):

      The identification of novel PR co-regulators is an important objective, as the mechanistic basis of PR signaling in breast cancer remains incompletely understood. The main strength of this study lies in highlighting GRHL2 as a factor influencing PR genomic binding and transcriptional regulation, thereby expanding the repertoire of regulators implicated in PR biology.

      That said, the novelty is limited, given the established roles of GRHL2 in ER and AR regulation. Mechanistic insight is underdeveloped, and the reliance on an engineered T47DS model with supra-physiological PR levels reduces the general impact. Without validation in physiologically relevant breast cancer models and clearer separation of direct versus indirect effects, the overall advance remains modest.

      The manuscript will be of interest to a specialized audience in the fields of nuclear receptor signaling, breast cancer genomics, and transcriptional regulation. Broader appeal, including translational or clinical relevance, is limited in its current form.

      We have addressed all of these points in our response above and agree that with our implemented changes, this study should reach (and appeal to) an audience interested in transcriptional regulation, chromatin biology, hormone receptor signaling and breast cancer.

      Reviewer #2 (Evidence, reproducibility and clarity (Required)):

      The authors present a study investigating the role of GRHL2 in hormone receptor signaling. Previous research has primarily focused on GRHL2 interaction with estrogen receptor (ER) and androgen receptor (AR). In breast cancer, GRHL2 has been extensively studied in relation to ER, while its potential involvement with the progesterone receptor (PR) remains largely unexplored. This is the rationale of this study to investigate the relation between PR and GRHL2. The authors demonstrate an interaction between GRHL2 and PR and further explore this relationship at the level of genomic binding sites. They also perform GRHL2 knockdown experiments to identify target genes and link these transcriptional changes back to GRHL2-PR chromatin occupancy. However, several conceptual and technical aspects of the study require clarification to fully support the authors' conclusions.

      R2.1 Given the high sequence similarity among GRHL family members, this raises questions about the specificity of the antibody used for GRHL2 RIME. The authors should address whether the antibody cross-reacts with GRHL1 or GRHL3. For example, GRHL1 shows a higher log fold change than GRHL2 in the RIME data.

      Indeed, GRHL1, GRHL2, and GRHL3 are structurally related. They share a similar domain organization and are all {plus minus}70kDa in size. Sequence similarity is primarily confined to the DNA-binding domain, with GRHL2 and GRHL3 showing 81% similarity in this region, and GRHL1 showing 63% similarity to GRHL2/3 (Ming, Nucleic Acids Res 2018).

      The antibody used, sourced from the Human Protein Atlas, is widely used in the field. It targets an epitope within the transactivation domain (TAD) of GRHL2-a region with relatively low sequence similarity to the corresponding domains in GRHL1 and GRHL3.

      We assessed the specificity of the antibody using western blotting (Supplementary Figure 2A) in T47DS wild-type and GRHL2 knockdown cells. As expected, GRHL2 protein levels were reduced in the knockdown cells providing convincing evidence that the antibody recognizes GRHL2. The remaining signal in shGRHL2 knockdown cells could either be due to remaining GRHL2 protein or due to the antibody detecting GRHL1/3. Furthermore, the observed high log-fold enrichment of GRHL1 in our RIME may reflect known heterodimer formation between GRHL1 and GRHL2, rather dan antibody cross-reactivity. As such, we cannot formally rule out cross-reactivity and have mentioned this in the limitations section (line 497-501).

      R2.2 In addition, in RIME experiments, one would typically expect the bait protein to be among the most highly enriched proteins compared to control samples. If this is not the case, it raises questions about the efficiency of the pulldown, antibody specificity, or potential technical issues. The authors should comment on the enrichment level of the bait protein in their data to reassure readers about the quality of the experiment.

      We agree with the reviewer that this information is crucial for assessing the quality of the experiment. We have therefore added the enrichment levels (log₂ fold change of IgG control over pulldown) to the methods section (line 592).

      As the reviewer notes, GRHL2 was not among the top enriched proteins in our dataset. This is due to unexpectedly high background binding of GRHL2 to the IgG control antibody/beads, for which we currently have no explanation. As a result, although we detected many unique GRHL2 peptides, observed high sequence coverage (>70%), and GRHL2 ranked among the highest in both iBAQ and LFQ values, its relative enrichment was reduced due to the elevated background. During our RIME optimization, Coomassie blue staining of input and IP samples revealed a band at the expected molecular weight of GRHL2 in the pull down samples that was absent in the IgG control (see figure 1 for the reviewer below, 4 right lanes), supporting the conclusion that GRHL2 is specifically enriched in our GRHL2 RIME samples. Combined with enrichment of some of the expected interacting proteins (e.g. KMT2C and KMT2D), we are convinced that the experiment of sufficient quality to support our conclusions.

      Figure 1 for reviewer: Coomassie blue staining of input and IP GRHL2 and IgG RIME samples. NT = non-treated, T = treated.

      R2.3 The authors report log2 fold changes calculated using iBAQ values for the bait versus IgG control pulldown. While iBAQ provides an estimate of protein abundance within samples, it is not specifically designed for quantitative comparison between samples without appropriate normalization. It would be helpful to clarify the normalization strategy applied and consider using LFQ intensities.

      We understand the reviewer's concern. Due to the high background observed in the IgG control sample (see R2.2), the LFQ-based normalization did not accurately reflect the enrichment of GRHL2, which was clearly supported by other parameters such as the number of unique peptides (see rebuttal Table 1). After discussions with our Mass Spectrometry facility, we decided to consider the iBAQ values-which reflect the absolute protein abundance within each sample-as a valid and informative measure of enrichment. In the context of elevated background levels, iBAQ provides an alternative and reliable metric for assessing protein enrichment and was therefore used for our interactor analysis.

      Unique peptides

      IBAQ GRHL2

      IBAQ IgG

      LFQ GRHL2

      LFQ IgG

      GRHL2

      52

      1753400.00

      155355.67

      5948666.67

      3085700.00

      GRHL1

      23

      56988.33

      199.03

      334373.33

      847.23

      *Table 1. Unique peptide, IBAQ and LFQ values of the GRHL2 and IgG pulldowns for GRHL2 and GRHL1 *

      R2.4 Other studies have reported PR RIME, which could be a valuable source to investigate whether GRHL proteins were detected.

      We thank the reviewer for pointing this out. We are aware of the PR RIME, generated by Mohammed et al., which we refer to in the discussion (lines 390-391). This study indeed identified GRHL2 as a PR-interacting protein in MCF7 and T47D cells. Although they do not mention this interaction in the text, the interaction is clearly indicated in one of the figures from their paper, which supports our findings. To our knowledge, no other PR RIME datasets in MCF7 or T47D cells have been published to date.

      R2.5 In line 137, the term "protein score" is mentioned. Could the authors please clarify what this means and how it was calculated.

      We agree that this point was not clearly explained in the original text. The scores presented reflect the MaxQuant protein identification confidence, specifically the sum of peptide-level scores (from Andromeda), which indicates the relative confidence in protein detection. We have now added this clarification to line 137 and to the legend of Figure 1.

      R2.6 In line 140-141. The fact that GRHL2 interacts with chromatin remodelers does not by itself prove that GRHL2 acts as a pioneer factor or chromatin modulator. Demonstrating pioneer function typically requires direct evidence of chromatin opening or binding to closed chromatin regions (e.g., ATAC-seq, nucleosome occupancy assays). I recommend revising this statement or providing supporting evidence.

      We agree that the fact that GRHL2 interacts with chromatin remodelers does not by itself prove that GRHL2 acts as a pioneer factor or chromatin modulator. However, a previous study (Jacobs et al, Nature genetics, 2018) has shown directly that the GRHL family members (including GRHL2) have pioneering function and regulate the accessibility of enhancers. We adapted line 140-141 to state this more clearly. In addition, our newly added data in Figure 2G also support the fact that GRHL2 has a role in regulating chromatin accessibility in T47D cells.

      R2.7 The pulldown Western blot lacks an IgG control in panel D.

      This is correct. As the co-IP in Figure 1D served as a validation of the RIME and was specifically aimed at determining the effect of hormone treatment on the observed PR/GRHL2 interaction, we did not perform this control given the scale of the experiment. However, during RIME optimization, we performed GRHL2 staining of the IgG controls by western blot, shown in figure 2 for the reviewer below. As stated above, some background GRHL2 signal was observed in the IgG samples, but a clear enrichment is seen in the GRHL2 IP.

      Taken together, we believe that the well-controlled RIME, combined with the co-IP presented, provides strong evidence that the observed signal reflects a genuine GRHL-PR interaction.

      Figure 2 for reviewer: WB of input and IP GRHL2 and IgG RIME samples stained for GRHL2. NT = non-treated, T = treated

      R2.8 Depending on the journal and target audience, it may be helpful to briefly explain what R5020 is at its first mention (line 146).

      Thank you. We have adapted this accordingly.

      R2.9 The authors state that three technical replicates were performed for each experimental condition. It would be helpful to clarify the expected level of overlap between biological replicates of RIME experiments. This clarification is necessary, especially given the focus on uniquely enriched proteins in untreated versus treated cells, and the observation that some identified proteins in specific conditions are not chromatin-associated. Replicates or validations would strengthen the findings.

      We use the term technical rather than biological replicates because for cell lines, defining true biological replicates is challenging, as most variability arises from experimental rather than biological differences. To introduce some variation, we split our T47DS cells into three parallel dishes 5 days prior to starting the treatment. We purposely did this, to minimize to minimize the likelihood that proteins identified as uniquely enriched are artifacts. Each of the three technical replicates comes from one of these three parallel splits (so equal passage numbers but propagated in parallel dishes for 5 days before the start of the experiment).

      To generate the three technical replicates for our RIME, we plated cells from the parallel grown splits. Treatments for the three replicates were performed per replicate. Samples were crosslinked, harvested and lysed for subsequent RIME analysis, the three replicates were processed in parallel, for technical and logistical reasons. To clarify the experimental setup, we have updated the methods section accordingly (lines 566-568).

      As for the detection of non-chromatin-associated proteins: We cannot rule out that these are artifacts, as they may arise from residual cytosolic lysate during nuclear extraction. Alternatively, they could reflect a more dynamic subcellular localization of these proteins than currently annotated or appreciated.

      R2.10 The volcano plot for the RIME experiment appears to show three distinct clusters of proteins on the right, which is unusual for this type of analysis. The presence of these apparent groupings may suggest an artifact from the data processing, such as imputation. Can the authors clarify the origin of these groupings? If it is due to imputation or missing values, I recommend applying a stricter threshold, such as requiring detection in all three replicates (3/3) to improve the robustness of the enrichment analysis and increase confidence in the identified interactors.

      We thank the reviewer for pointing this out. As suggested, we re-evaluated the imputation and applied a stricter threshold, requiring detection in all three replicates. Indeed, the separate clusters were due to missing values, therefore we now revised the imputation method by imputing values based on the normal distribution. Using this revised analysis, we identify 2352 GRHL2 interactors instead of 1140, but the number of interacting proteins annotated as transcription factors or chromatin-associated/modifying proteins was still 103. Figure 1B, 1E, and Supplementary Figure 4A have been updated accordingly. We also revised the methods section to reflect this change. We think this suggestion has improved our analysis of the data and we thank the reviewer for pointing this out.

      R2.11 The statement that "PR and GRHL2 frequently overlap" may be overstated given that only ~700 overlapping sites are reported (cut&run).

      We have replaced "frequently overlap" by "can overlap" (line 229-230).

      R2.12 The model in Figure 6 suggests limited chromatin occupancy of PR and GRHL2 in hormone-depleted conditions, consistent with the known requirement of ligand for stable PR-DNA binding. However, Figure 1 shows no major difference in GRHL2-PR interaction between untreated and hormone-treated cells. This raises questions about where and how this interaction occurs in the absence of hormone. Since PR binding to chromatin is typically minimal without ligand, can the authors clarify this given that RIME data reflect chromatin-bound interactions.

      Indeed, the model in figure 6 suggests limited chromatin occupancy of PR and GRHL2 under hormone-depleted conditions. It is, however, important to note that the locus shown represents a gene regulated by both PR and GRHL2 - and not just any gene. We recognize that this was not sufficiently clear in the original version, and we have now clarified this in both the main text (line 331-334) and the figure legend.

      We propose that PR and GRHL2 bind or become enriched at enhancer sites associated with their target genes upon ligand stimulation. This is consistent with the known requirement of ligand for stable PR-DNA binding and with our observation that PR/GRHL2 overlapping peaks are detected only in the ligand-treated condition of the CUT&RUN experiment. Given the broader role of GRHL2, it also binds chromatin independently of progesterone and the progesterone receptor, which is why we included-but did not focus on-GRHL2-only binding events in our model.

      We would also like to clarify that, although RIME includes a nuclear enrichment step that enriches for chromatin-associated proteins, the pulldown is performed on nuclear lysates. Therefore, it captures both chromatin-bound protein complexes and freely soluble nuclear complexes, which unfortunately cannot be distinguished. GRHL2 is well established as a nuclear protein (Zeng et al., Cancers 2024; Riethdorf et al., International Journal of Cancer 2015), and although PR is classically described as translocating to the nucleus upon hormone stimulation, several studies-including our own-have shown that PR is continuously present in the nucleus (Aarts et al., J Mammary Gland Biol Neoplasia 2023; Frigo et al., Essays Biochem. 2021).

      We therefore propose that PR and GRHL2 may already interact in the nucleus without directly binding to chromatin. Given our observation that GRHL2 binding sites on the chromatin are redistributed upon R5020 mediated signaling activation, we hypothesize that such pre-formed PR-GRHL2 nuclear complexes may assist the rapid recruitment of GRHL2 to progesterone-responsive chromatin regions.

      We have expanded the discussion to include a dedicated section addressing this point (line 376-388).

      R2.13 It would be of interest to assess the overlap between the proteins identified in the RIME experiment and the motif analysis results.

      In the discussion section of our original manuscript, we highlighted some overlapping proteins in the RIME and motif analysis, including STAT6 and FOXA1. However, we had not yet systematically analyzed overlap in both analyses. To address this, we now compared all enriched motifs (so not only the top 5 as displayed in our figures) under GRHL2, PR, and GRHL2/PR shared sites from both the CUT&RUN and ChIP-seq datasets with the proteins identified as GRHL2 interactors in our RIME. Although we identified numerous GRHL2-associated proteins, relatively few of them were transcription factors whose binding motifs were also enriched under GRHL2 peaks.

      In our revised manuscript we have added a section in the discussion highlighting our systematic overlap of the results of our RIME experiment and the motif enrichment of the ChIP-seq and CUT&RUN analysis (line 415-436).

      R2.14 The authors chose CUT&RUN to assess chromatin binding of PR and GRHL2. Given that RIME is also based on chromatin immunoprecipitation - ChIP protocol, it would be helpful to clarify why CUT&RUN was selected over ChIP-seq for the DNA-binding assays. What is the overlap with published data?

      As also mentioned in our response to R1.3 and R1.5, we deliberately chose the CUT&RUN approach to minimize artifacts introduced by crosslinking and sonication, thereby reducing background and allowing the identification of high-confidence, direct DNA-binding events. Since GRHL2 physically interacts with PR, ChIP-seq could potentially capture indirect binding of GRHL2 at PR-bound sites (and vice versa). In contrast, CUT&RUN primarily detects direct DNA-protein interactions, providing a more specific and accurate binding profile. Additionally, CUT&RUN serves as an independent validation method for data obtained using ChIP-like protocols.

      Since CUT&RUN, similar to ChIP, can show limited reproducibility (Nordin et al., Nucleic Acids Research, 2024), and to our knowledge few PR CUT&RUN and no GRHL2 CUT&RUN datasets are currently available, it is challenging to directly compare our data with published datasets. Nevertheless, studies performing PR or ER CUT&RUN (Gillis et al., Cancer Research, 2024; Reese et al., Molecular and Cellular Biology, 2022) report a comparable number of peaks-in the same range of thousands-as observed in our data. This suggests that a single CUT&RUN experiment in general may detect fewer events than a single ChIP-seq experiment, but that the peaks that are found are likely to reflect direct binding events.

      Reviewer #2 (Significance (Required)):

      General Assessment: This study investigates the role of the transcription factor GRHL2 in modulating PR function, using RIME and CUT&RUN to explore protein-protein and protein-chromatin interactions. GRHL2 have been implicated in epithelial biology and transcriptional regulation and interaction with steroid hormone receptors has been reported. This study extends the field by showing a functional link between GRHL2 and PR, which has implications for understanding hormone-dependent gene regulation.

      The research will primarily interest a specialized audience in transcriptional regulation, chromatin biology, and hormone receptor signaling.

      Key words for this reviewer: chromatin biology, transcription factor function, epigenomics, and proteomics.

      We agree that with our implemented changes, this study should reach (and appeal to) an audience interested in transcriptional regulation, chromatin biology, hormone receptor signaling and breast cancer.

      Reviewer #3 (Evidence, reproducibility and clarity (Required)):

      This study explores the important transcriptional coordination role of Grainyhead-like 2 (GRHL2) on the transcriptional regulatory function of progesterone receptor (PR). In this paper, the authors start with their recruitment characteristics, take into account their regulatory effects on downstream genes and their effects on the occurrence and development of breast cancer, and further clarify the coordination between them in three-dimensional space. The interaction between GRHL2 and PR, and the subsequent important influence on the co-regulated genes by GRHL2 and PR are analyzed. The overall framework of this study is mainly by RNA seq and CUT-TAG analysis, the molecular mechanism underlying the association between GRHL2 and PR and regulation function of two proteins in breast cancer is not clearly clarified. Some details need to be further improved:

      Major comments: R3.1 For Fig.1D, the molecular weight of each protein should be marked in the diagram, and the expression of GRHL2 in the input group should be supplemented.

      We apologize for not including molecular weights in our initial submission. We are not entirely clear what the reviewer means with their statement that "the expression of GRHL2 in the input group should be supplemented". The blot depicted in Figure 1D shows both the input signal and the IP. For the reviewer's information, the full Western blot is depicted below.

      Figure 3 for reviewer: Full WBs of input and IP GRHL2 samples stained for GRHL2 or PR. NT = non-treated, T = treated

      R3.2 In Fig.2B and Fig 5C, it should be describe well whether GRHL2 recruitment is in the absence or presence of R5020? How about the co-occupancy of PR and GRHL2 region, Promoter or enhancer region? It would be better to show histone marks such as H3K27ac and H3K4me1 to annotate the enhancer region.

      As also stated in our response to R1.3, we acknowledge that the ChIP-seq experiments cannot definitively determine whether GRHL2 and PR co-occupy genomic regions under ligand-stimulated conditions, since the GRHL2 dataset was generated in the absence of progesterone stimulation (as indicated in lines 167-169). To clarify this, we have now specified this detail in the legend of figure 2 by noting "untreated GRHL2 ChIP." To directly assess GRHL2 chromatin binding under progesterone-stimulated conditions, we performed CUT&RUN experiments for both GRHL2 and PR under untreated and R5020-treated conditions. These experiments revealed a subset of overlapping PR and GRHL2 binding sites (approximately 5% of all identified PR peaks.

      In our original manuscript, we performed genomic annotation of the GRHL2, PR, and GRHL2/PR overlapping peaks (Figure 2E) and found that most of these sites were located in intergenic regions, where enhancers are typically found, with ~20% located in promoter regions. We appreciate the reviewer's suggestion to further overlap the ChIP-seq peaks with histone marks such as H3K27ac and H3K4me1. We have now incorporated publicly available ATAC-seq and H3K27ac ChIP datasets in our revised manuscript (as also suggested by Reviewer 1) and find that shared GRHL2/PR sites are indeed located in active enhancer regions marked by H3K27ac (see Figure 2F). Additionally, as expected, we find that GRHL2/PR overlapping sites are enriched at open chromatin (Figure 2G).

      R3.3 What is the biological function analysis by KEGG or GO analysis for the overlapping genes from VN plots of RNA-seq with CUT-TAG peaks. The genes co-regulated by GRH2L and PR are further determined.

      For us, it is not entirely clear what reviewer 3 is asking here, but we can explain the following: as it is challenging to integrate HiChIP with CUT&RUN, due to the fundamentally different nature of the two techniques, we chose not to directly assign genes to CUT&RUN peaks. However, we did carefully link the GRHL2, PR, and GRHL2/PR ChIP-seq peaks to their target genes by integrating chromatin looping data from a PR HiChIP analysis. The result from this analysis is depicted in Figure 4B.

      As suggested by this reviewer, we also performed a GO-term analysis on the 79 genes that are regulated by both GRHL2 and PR (we now have 79 genes after the re-analysis as suggested in R1.6). The corresponding results are provided for the reviewer in figure 3 of this rebuttal (below). As this additional analysis does not provide further biological insight beyond what is already presented in Figure 4C, we decided to not include this figure in the manuscript.

      Figure 4 for reviewer: GO-term analysis on the 79 GRHL2-PR co-regulated genes that are transcriptionally regulated by GRHL2 and PR and that also harbor a PR HiChIP loop anchor at or near their TSS

      R3.4 Western blotting should be performed to determine the protein levels of downstream genes co-regulated genes by GRH2L and PR in the absence or presence of R5020.

      We agree that determining the response of co-regulated is important. Therefore, in Figure 4D, we present three representative examples of genes that are directly co-regulated by GRHL2 and PR-specifically, genes that are differentially expressed after 4 hours of R5020 exposure. Although protein levels of the targets are of functional importance, GRHL2 and PR are of transcription factors whose immediate effects are primarily exerted at the level of gene transcription. Therefore, in our opinion, changes in mRNA abundance provide the most direct and mechanistically relevant readout of their regulatory activity.

      R3.5 The author mentioned that this study positions that GRHL2 acts as a crucial modulator of steroid hormone receptor function, while the authors do not provide the evidences that how does GRHL2 regulate PR-mediated transactivation, and how about these two proteins subcellular distribution in breast cancer cells.

      We agree that while our RNA-seq data demonstrate that GRHL2 modulates the expression of PR target genes, and our CUT&RUN experiments show that GRHL2 chromatin binding is reshaped upon R5020 exposure, we have not yet further dissected the molecular mechanism by which GRHL2 functions as a PR co-regulator.

      As also mentioned in our response to R1.2, we did consider several follow-up experiments to address this, including PR CUT&RUN in GRHL2 knockdown cells, CUT&RUN for known co-activators such as KMT2C/D and P300, as well as functional studies involving GRHL2 TAD and DBD mutants. However, due to technical and logistical challenges, we were unable to carry out these experiments within the timeframe of this study.

      That said, we fully recognize that such approaches would provide deeper mechanistic insight into the interplay between PR and GRHL2. We have therefore explicitly acknowledged this limitation in our limitations of the study section (lines 502-507) and consider it an important avenue for future investigation.

      Regarding the subcellular distribution in breast cancer cells: As also mentioned in our response to R2.12, GRHL2 is well established as a nuclear protein (Zeng et al., Cancers 2024; Riethdorf et al., International Journal of Cancer 2015), and although PR is classically described as translocating to the nucleus upon hormone stimulation, several studies-including our own-have shown that PR is continuously present in the nucleus (Aarts et al., J Mammary Gland Biol Neoplasia 2023; Frigo et al., Essays Biochem. 2021). Thus, both proteins mostly reside in the nucleus in breast (cancer) cells both in the absence and presence of hormone stimulation, but dynamic subcellular shuttling is likely to occur.

      Minor comments: Please describe in more detail the relationship between PR and GRHL2 binding independent of the hormone in the discussion section.

      As also mentioned in our response to R2.12, we have expanded the discussion to include a dedicated section addressing this point (lines 376-388).

      Reviewer #3 (Significance (Required)):

      Advance: Compare the study to existing published knowledge, it fills a gap. The authors provide RNA seq and CUT-TAG sequence analysis to show the recruitment of GRHL2 and PR and the co-regulated genes in the absence or presence of progesterone.

      Audience: breast surgery will be interested, and the audiences will cover clinical and basic research.

      My expertise is focused on the epigenetic modulation of steroid hormone receptors in the related cancers, such as breast cancer, prostate cancer, and endometrial carcinoma.

      We agree that with our implemented changes, this study should reach (and appeal to) an audience interested in transcriptional regulation, chromatin biology, hormone receptor signaling and breast cancer.

    1. CRISPR was a naturally occurring component of the immune system in bacteria that’s been known since the 80’s, but it took another 25 years for people to realize it could be repurposed for general gene editing

      I think this greatly highlights his point, if things that are discovered a lot earlier are analyzed thoroughly for insights, then we can develop these technologies much more faster.

    2. It does not have a physical embodiment (other than living on a computer screen), but it can control existing physical tools, robots, or laboratory equipment through a computer;

      Its interesting how despite the progress towards robots currently, he doesn't define a strong AI as needing physical componenets

    3. Need for data. Sometimes raw data is lacking and in its absence more intelligence does not help.

      I did not think about this limitation regarding complex concepts like particle acceleration, but it makes sense with the copious amounts of data needed to train large language models and other forms of artificial intelligence.

    4. but with AI’s doing everything, how will humans have meaning

      It's especially important to consider this alongside the use of AI for art/music. For creative tasks, I think that should solely be reserved for humans, as it's a genuine form of expression. Taking away this expression I think would take away meaning from human life.

    5. AI simply offers an opportunity to get us there more quickly—to make the logic starker and the destination clearer.

      This is the hinge of the ending: the author reframes AI not as a disruptor but as an accelerator of moral destiny. It’s an elegant story, but it rests on the assumption that human values won’t fracture under the pressure of rapid transformation.

    6. I am not suggesting that we literally replace judges with AI systems, but the combination of impartiality with the ability to understand and process messy, real world situations feels like it should have some serious positive applications to law and justice

      I think if this were to happen, AI would need to be rid of all biases in order to allow for true justice. But also, the same way that judges have a human aspect in their decisions, should there be the same allowance for AI?

    7. This means it can prove unsolved mathematical theorems, write extremely good novels, write difficult codebases from scratch, etc.

      I understand the excitement and push toward powerful artificial intelligence to solve complex problems and automate processes, but I don't understand the desire to use it to fully generate art, literature, and entertainment.

    8. and also to learn88 This learning can include temporary, in-context learning, or traditional training; both will be rate-limited by the physical world.. But the world only moves so fast

      The emphasis on "to learn" is important because with people just using AI without truly understanding it (or even understanding its output) might create a population where the level of intelligence that AI can produce is maxed out as it can just generally be accepted. (There's no desire for more intelligent AI)

    9. The list of positive applications of powerful AI is extremely long (and includes robotics, manufacturing, energy, and much more), but I’m going to focus on a small number of areas that seem to me to have the greatest potential to directly improve the quality of human life.

      I agree that artificial intelligence can be used to improve the quality of human life on many fronts, but I also believe that it can detriment our lives and be used maliciously in a plethora of ways. For example, two of the categories that he is most excited for AI to be applied to are peace and governance, and work and meaning. Applications such as lethal autonomous weapons and job displacement due to automation make me rather cynical about AI's usage in these areas.

    10. On the other hand, the risks are not predetermined and our actions can greatly change their likelihood.

      It's typically easier to identify the benefits of new technologies because they are created with specific purposes in mind. Innovators get caught up in how they will change an area for the better and are unable to recognize significant harms with those technologies. For example, with artificial intelligence, it was mainly created to automate tasks and solve complex problems, but overreliance on AI can lead to cognitive atrophy and diminished critical thinking skills.

    11. We could summarize this as a “country of geniuses in a datacenter”.

      This shows the scale of what he thinks AI will be capable of doing. It reframes AI not as a single tool, but as millions of expert-level workers operating at once, which explains why he believes the impact will change the world.

    12. Fear is one kind of motivator, but it’s not enough: we need hope as well.

      He's arguing that AI conversations shouldn't be all doom. People need something inspiring to work toward, not just warnings about what could go wrong.

    13. This might suggest a pessimistic perspective on what AI can accomplish. But biomedicine is unique in that although the process of developing drugs is overly cumbersome, once developed they generally are successfully deployed and used.

      For most cases in this area there is no outside factors that are evolving rapidly. One of the big risks of AI is bias which medically since it is based almost solely on biology there shouldn't have any impact on the deployment.

    14. experiments and hardware design have a certain “latency” and need to be iterated upon a certain “irreducible” number of times in order to learn things that can’t be deduced logically. But massive parallelism may be possible on top of that

      If it ends up developing this far I think the success rate of what could be discovered is endless but I think the driving factor of that will be the parallelism especially since as mentioned experiments take so long that in the time one is being done there are so many other things that can be ran and tested as well but we don't have the people or resources to do so right now.

    15. Many of the implications of powerful AI are adversarial or dangerous, but at the end of it all, there has to be something we’re fighting for, some positive-sum outcome where everyone is better off, something to rally people to rise above their squabbles and confront the challenges ahead. Fear is one kind of motivator, but it’s not enough: we need hope as well.

      Theres obviously a use for AI and a positive purpose that it can serve or there wouldn't be a need or desire to develop it in the first place. As mentioned though despite that need that doesn't mean any risks or fears should be ignored

    16. Nevertheless, it is a thing of transcendent beauty. We have the opportunity to play some small role in making it real.

      I found that this was an interesting take on what AI can do, but at the end of the day, it was still a sales pitch to investors on what AI can do for the future and why they should invest in it.

    17. and resisting the temptation to rely on natural resource wealth); it’s plausible that “AI finance ministers and central bankers” could replicate or exceed this 10% accomplishmen

      He claims here that AI could replicate this, but I don't see how AI could do the same and if people would trust AI to make such massive decisions. It seems almost like he's promoting AI to be the solution to everything.

    18. Given all this, many biologists have long been skeptical of the value of AI and “big data” more generally in biology

      AI may not be so useful in the fields of biology, but its use may have not been found yet or the technology is not good enough to be used just yet.

    19. data is often lacking—not so much in quantity, but quality: there is always a dearth of clear, unambiguous data that isolates a biological effect of interest from the other 10,000 confounding things that are going on, or that intervenes causally in a given process, or that directly measures some effect (as opposed to inferring its consequences in some indirect or noisy way)

      Modern biology has massive datasets, but AI progress is limited by noisy, ambiguous, or confounded data. This shows that adding more data is not the solution, you need data that is understood and can produce a positive effect when ingested by AI.

    20. Thus, we should imagine a picture where intelligence is initially heavily bottlenecked by the other factors of production, but over time intelligence itself increasingly routes around the other factors, even if they never fully dissolve (and some things like physical laws are absolute)10

      Over time, these systems may innovate new methods that reduce current bottlenecks. This may be done through new experiments, new jurisdictions, new data-gathering paradigms.

    21. but it is worth reflecting on how much the world will change even if biology is the only area to be successfully accelerated by AI.

      All of science will experience faster growth with the rise of AI

    22. Examples of advances that work well in a technical sense, but whose impact has been substantially reduced by regulations or misplaced fears, include nuclear power, supersonic flight, and even elevators.

      Elevators used to be dangerous, and those regulations were written for a reason. That reason is perhaps outdated and these regulations should be examined.

      Aversion to Nuclear Power, on the other hand, was primarily the result of fearmongering. There wasnt a good, actual case to be afraid of nuclear power in the US; a total of 13 people have ever died at a nuclear power facility in the US. Only 4 of those deaths had anything to do with nuclear energy, and the most recent of the incidents was in 1964.

      Supersonic planes? They literally generate a sonic boom over people's homes. If that can be mitigated and the issue solved, then by all means solve it. But until then, supersonic flight simply isnt viable.

    23. you might think that the world would be instantly transformed on the scale of seconds or days (“the Singularity”), as superior intelligence builds on itself and solves every possible scientific, engineering, and operational task almost immediately.

      This is a very grounded argument to make, but it also fails to see the forest from the trees. In reality, experiments do take time to run and an AI Superintelligence would not be able to make mold grow on bread any faster than Fleming could.

      But a Superintelligence would certainly accelerate things. Discovery and research will always take time, but the superintelligence will better interpret those results. Subsequent research will be better directed, and more productive.

      It wont solve every issue overnight, that notion is certainly hyperbole. But the advancement of society would accelerate the moment it is switched on.

    24. there are real physical and practical limits, for example around building hardware or conducting biological experiments. Even a new country of geniuses would hit up against these limits. Intelligence may be very powerful, but it isn’t magic fairy dust.

      He acknowledges potential limitations to the "power AI" that can't be solved with just intelligence alone. Non-intelligence factors, such as infrastructure, are what enable intelligence to progress.

    25. excessively “sci-fi” tone (featuring e.g. uploaded minds, space exploration, or general cyberpunk vibes). I think this causes people to take the claims less seriously, and to imbue them with a sort of unreality.

      I find this kind of overblown speculation by the public dangerous, not because it's impossible, but because it distorts the public's understanding of the matter.

    26. it will not be achieved without a huge amount of effort and struggle by many brave and dedicated people

      The benefits talked about will not be quickly nor easily reached, but sticking with it through the challenges is a must in order to allow AI to have the impact it's intended to.

    27. Many human societal structures are inefficient or even actively harmful, but are hard to change while respecting constraints like legal requirements on clinical trials, people’s willingness to change their habits, or the behavior of governments

      Factors such as those mentioned here stall progress and advancement of AI, for charging ahead with disregard to these poses further risks that can be disastrous, but adhereing to each and every constraint makes it incredibly difficult to advance at all.

    28. just as I think most people are underestimating how bad the risks could be.

      Failing to properly consider the risks posed by AI will only make it more likely that these risks cause significant harm, but currently a lot of discourse around risks in AI is chalked up to a general distrust in it and unwillingness to incorporate it into daily life

    1. Women’s rights have improved over the years, but continued progress is not guaranteed. In a time of escalating conflicts, rising authoritarianism and devastating climate change impacts, women face many issues related to education, work, healthcare, legal rights, violence and much more. By understanding these issues, the world can work together to achieve gender equality, stronger human rights protections and safety for all people. In this article, we’ll explore 20 of the most important issues affecting women and girls today.

      Colleagues, I invite you to use this space to collaboratively annotate the module introduction and summary. Please highlight areas that are clear or engaging, note any points that may need clarification or stronger alignment with learning outcomes, and add suggestions for improvement. You are welcome to tag your comments (e.g., clarity, engagement, alignment, accessibility) and build on each other’s observations. Your insights and feedback will contribute to improving instructional clarity, learner support, and the overall quality of the module. Thank you for engaging in this shared learning process.

    1. protocols and recommended guidelines

      might be helpful to clarify here that protocols are mandatory steps that must always be followed and demonstrated, while guidelines are best-practice suggestions meant to improve quality but not strictly required

    1. A temperature of 102.5° F is a disruption of that homeostasis, and the body will work to restore the temperature back to the normal temperature of 98.6° F.

      I feel that this statement may cause confusion when discussing fevers. A temperature of 102.5 from exercise or exposure to a warm environment would be a disruption of homeostasis. A fever of 102.5 due to illness does not constitute a disruption of homeostasis, rather a resetting of the set point. In this case, the body will not try to restore a temperature of 98.6F, but will maintain the higher temperature. More info on this discussion here:

      https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/209609

      I would maybe add the phrase "due to external sources" or some other qualifier so that students don't later become confused about the relationship between homeostasis and fever.

    1. you might have seen this this article that Bill Gates published uh end of October this year. Donald Trump wrote this this particular artic article because Bill Gates basically wrote that hey look climate okay climate's a thing climate change is a thing but but don't get all hooked up about climate change because there's other stuff going on like like people's health

      for - Bill Gates climate article - SRG Comment - need to look at it from multi-scale, multi-dimensional wellbeing framework to make sense of it

    2. we used a number of different proxies at 12 different sites, and they all recorded very clearly the effects of the great acceleration. And with that midpoint of about 1952.9 years, it all makes perfect sense. So it's not just the site at Crawford Lake, but all of the sites that we looked at showed a very very similar signal.

      for - definition - anthropocene - synchronized signals of great acceleration at all 12 sites, not just Crawford Lake - Francine McCarthy, Brock University

    3. one remaining project of course is still the formalization because while that is, you know, as as as Johan said, in many respects it doesn't matter, but in some it does partly because the anthroposine's meaning has been stretched so widely in so many areas that it makes sense to try and at least define it clearly and precisely in one sense so it can be used even quantitatively as well as qualitatively.

      for - definition - anthropocene - post rejection definition - future work - even though it's been rejected as a geological epoch, due to so many uses of it, it still needs a proper definition

    4. if it's just about bending the curve I think solar panels can bend the curve of coal consumption for instance. But of course the difficulty is to get to get near to net zero which is a far far more difficult task

      for - bending the curve vs net zero

      comment - it depends on how you define "bend the curve" - I think many actually include achieving net zero in bending the curve

    1. Author response:

      The following is the authors’ response to the previous reviews

      Reviewer #1 (Public review) :

      Comments on revisions:

      The revised manuscript has responded to the previous concerns of the reviewers, albeit modestly. The overemphasis on hypoxic adaptation of the clinical isolates persist as a key concern in the paper. The authors have compared the growth-curve of each of the clinical and ATCC strains under normal and hypoxic conditions (Fig. 8), but don't show how mutations in some of the genes identified in Tn-seq would impact the growth phenotype under hypoxia. They largely base their arguments on previously published results.

      As I mentioned previously, the paper will be better without over-interpreting the TnSeq data in the context of hypoxia.

      Thank you for the comment on the issue of not determining the impact of individual gene mutations identified in TnSeq on the growth phenotypes under hypoxia.

      We agree that the lack of validation of TnSeq results is a limitation of this study. Without evidence of growth pattern of each gene-deletion mutant under hypoxia there might be a risk of over-interpretating the data, even though the data are carefully interpreted based on previous reports. We consider that it is necessary to confirm the phenomenon by using knockout mutants.

      We have just recently succeeded in constructing the vector plasmids for making knockout mutants of M intracellulare (Tateishi. Microbiol Immunol. 2024). We will proceed to the validation experiment of TnSeq-hit genes by constructing knockout mutants. We already mentioned this point as a limitation of this study in the Discussion (pages 35-36 lines 630-640 in the revised manuscript).

      Reference.

      Tateishi, Y., Nishiyama, A., Ozeki, Y. & Matsumoto, S. Construction of knockout mutants in Mycobacterium intracellulare ATCC13950 strain using a thermosensitive plasmid containing negative selection marker rpsL+. Microbiol Immunol 68, 339-347 (2024).

      Other points:

      The y-axis legends of plots in Fig.8c are illegible.

      Following the comment, we have corrected Figure 8c and checked the uploaded PDF

      The statements in lines 376-389 are convoluted and need some explanation. If the clinical strains enter the log phase sooner than ATCC strain under hypoxia, then how come their growth rates (fig. 8c) are lower? Aren't they expected to grow faster?

      Thank you for the comment on the interpretation of the difference in bacterial growth under hypoxia between MAC-PD strains and the ATCC type strain. The growth curve consists of the onset of logarithmic growth and its growth speed. In this study, we evaluated the former as timing of midpoint and the latter as growth rate at midpoint. Timing of midpoint and growth rate at midpoint are individual parameters. The early entry to log-phase does not mean the fast growth rate at midpoint.

      Our results demonstrated that 5 (M.i.198, M.i.27, M003, M019 and M021) out of 8 clinical MAC-PD strains entered log-phase early and continued to grow logarithmically long time (slow growth). This data suggests the capacity for MAC-PD to continue replication long time under hypoxic conditions. By contrast, the ATCC type strain showed delayed onset of logarithmic growth caused by long-term lag phase. The duration of logarithmic growth was short even once after it started. The log phase soon transited to the stationary phase. This data suggests the lower capacity for the ATCC strain to continue replication under hypoxic conditions.

      Following the comment, we have added the interpretation of the growth curve pattern as follows (page 22 lines 379-392 in the revised manuscript): “The growth rate at midpoint under hypoxic conditions was significantly lower in these 5 clinical MAC-PD strains than in ATCC13950. The early entry to log phase followed by long-term logarithmic growth (slow growth rate at midpoint) suggests the capacity for these 5 clinical MAC-PD strains to continue replication long time under hypoxic conditions. On the other hand, the rest 3 clinical MAC-PD strains (M018, M001 and MOTT64) did not show significant change in the growth rate between aerobic and hypoxic conditions, suggesting that there are different levels of capacity in maintaining long-term replication under hypoxia among clinical MAC-PD strains. In ATCC13950, the entry to log phase was significantly delayed under 5% oxygen compared to aerobic conditions, and the growth rate at midpoint was significantly increased under hypoxic conditions compared to aerobic conditions in ATCC13950. Such long-term lag phase followed by short-term log phase suggests lower capacity for ATCC13950 to continue replication under hypoxic conditions compared to clinical MAC-PD strains.”

      Reviewer #4 (Public review):

      Comments on revisions:

      The revised version has satisfactorily addressed my initial comments in the discussion section.

      The authors thank the Reviewer for understanding our reply.

      Reviewer #5 (Public review):

      Comments on revisions:

      There is quite a lot of data and this could have been a really impactful study if the authors had channelized the Tn mutagenesis by focusing on one pathway or network. It looks scattered. However, from the previous version, the authors have made significant improvements to the manuscript and have provided comments that fairly address my questions.

      The authors thank the Reviewer for understanding our reply. And the authors thank the Reviewer for the comments suggesting the future studies of TnSeq that focus on one pathway or network.

    1. Author response:

      The following is the authors’ response to the original reviews.

      Reviewer #1 (Public review)

      (1) This manuscript addresses an important problem of the uncoupling of oxidative phosphorylation due to hypoxia-ischemia injury of the neonatal brain and provides insight into the neuroprotective mechanisms of hypothermia treatment.

      The authors used a combination of in vivo imaging of awake P10 mice and experiments on isolated mitochondria to assess various key parameters of the brain metabolism during hypoxia-ischemia with and without hypothermia treatment. This unique approach resulted in a comprehensive data set that provides solid evidence for the derived conclusions

      We thank the reviewer for the positive feedback.

      (2) The experiments were performed acutely on the same day when the surgery was performed. There is a possibility that the physiology of mice at the time of imaging was still affected by the previously applied anesthesia. This is particularly of concern since the duration of anesthesia was relatively long. Is it possible that the observed relatively low baseline OEF (~20%) and trends of increased OEF and CBF over several hours after the imaging start were partially due to slow recovery from prolonged anesthesia? The potential effects of long exposure to anesthesia before imaging experiments were not discussed.

      We thank the reviewer for this important comment and for pointing out the potential influence of anesthesia on the physiological state of the animals. We apologize for any confusion. To clarify, all PAM imaging experiments were conducted in awake animals. Isoflurane anesthesia was used only during two brief surgical procedures: (1) the installation of the head-restraint plastic head plate and (2) the right common carotid artery (CCA) ligation. Each anesthesia session lasted less than 20 minutes.

      We have revised the Methods section to provide additional details:

      For the subsection Procedures for PAM Imaging on page 17, we clarified the sequence of procedures during the head plate installation, as well as the corresponding anesthesia duration:

      “After the applied glue was solidified (~20 min), the animal was first returned to its cage for full recovery from anesthesia, and then carefully moved to the treadmill and secured to the metal arm-piece with two #4–40 screws for awake PAM imaging. The total duration of anesthesia, including preparation and glue solidification, was approximately 20 minutes.”

      For the subsection Neonatal Cerebral HI and Hypothermia Treatment on page 19, we also clarified the CCA ligation procedure:

      “Briefly, P10 mice of both sexes anesthetized with 2% isoflurane were subjected to the right CCA-ligation. To manage pain, 0.25% Bupivacaine was administered locally prior to the surgical procedures, which took less than 10 minutes. After a recovery period for one hour, awake mice were exposed to 10% O<sub>2</sub> for 40 minutes in a hypoxic chamber at 37 °C.”

      Regarding the reviewer’s concern about the observed trends in OEF and CBF, we agree that residual effects of anesthesia could, in principle, influence physiological parameters. However, we believe this is unlikely in this study for the following reasons. First, all imaging was conducted in awake animals after a clearly defined recovery period. Second, the trend of increasing OEF and CBF over time was consistent across animals and aligned with expected physiological responses following hypoxic-ischemic injury. In particular, the relatively low baseline OEF (0.21 at 37°C) is consistent with our previous study (0.25; (Cao et al., 2018)). The gradual increase in CBF and OEF reflects metabolic compensation and reperfusion following hypoxia-ischemia, as previously described (Lin and Powers, 2018). Therefore, we believe the observed changes are of physiological origin rather than anesthesia-related artifacts.

      (3) The Methods Section does not provide information about drugs administered to reduce the pain. If pain was not managed, mice could be experiencing significant pain during experiments in the awake state after the surgery. Since the imaging sessions were long (my impression based on information from the manuscript is that imaging sessions were ~4 hours long or even longer), the level of pain was also likely to change during the experiments. It was not discussed how significant and potentially evolving pain during imaging sessions could have affected the measurements (e.g., blood flow and CMRO<sub>2</sub>). If mice received pain management during experiments, then it was not discussed if there are known effects of used drugs on CBF, CMRO<sub>2</sub>, and lesion size after 24 hr.

      We thank the reviewer for this valuable comment regarding pain management. We confirm that local analgesia was administered to all animals prior to surgical procedures. Specifically, 0.25% Bupivacaine was applied locally before both the head-restraint plate installation and the CCA ligation. These details have now been clarified in the Methods section:

      For the subsection Procedures for PAM Imaging on page 16, we added:

      “To manage pain, 0.25% Bupivacaine was administered locally prior to the surgical procedures.”

      For the subsection Neonatal Cerebral HI and Hypothermia Treatment on page 18, we added:

      “To manage pain, 0.25% Bupivacaine was administered locally prior to the surgical procedures, which took less than 10 minutes.”

      To our knowledge, Bupivacaine has minimal systemic effects at the dose used and is unlikely to significantly alter CBF, CMRO<sub>2</sub>, or lesion development (Greenberg et al., 1998). No other analgesics (e.g., NSAIDs or opioids) were administered unless distress symptoms were observed—which did not occur in this study.

      Additionally, although imaging sessions were extended (up to 2 hours), animals remained calm and showed no signs of pain or distress during or after the procedures. Throughout the experimental period (up to 24 hours post-surgery), animals were monitored for signs of discomfort (e.g., abnormal activity, breathing, or weight gain), but no additional analgesia was required. The neonatal HI procedures are considered minimally invasive, and based on our protocol and prior experience, local Bupivacaine provides effective analgesia during and after the brief surgeries. We have added a corresponding note in the Discussion section (newly added subsection: Limitations in this study, the last paragraph) on page 15:

      “We observed no signs of distress or pain and did not use stress- or pain-reducing drugs during imaging. However, potential effects of stress or residual pain on CBF and CMRO<sub>2</sub> cannot be fully ruled out. Future studies could incorporate more detailed pain assessment and stress-mitigation strategies to further enhance physiological reliability.”

      (4) Animals were imaged in the awake state, but they were not previously trained for the imaging procedure with head restraint. Did animals receive any drugs to reduce stress? Our experience with well-trained young-adult as well as old mice is that they can typically endure 2 and sometimes up to 3 hours of head-restrained awake imaging with intermittent breaks for receiving the rewards before showing signs of anxiety. We do not have experience with imaging P10 mice in the awake state. Is it possible that P10 mice were significantly stressed during imaging and that their stress level changed during the imaging session? This concern about the potential effects of stress on the various measured parameters was not discussed.

      We thank the reviewer for this important comment regarding the potential effects of stress during awake imaging. The neonatal mice used in our study were P10, a stage at which animals are still physiologically immature and relatively inactive. Due to their small size and limited mobility, these animals did not struggle or show signs of distress during the imaging sessions. All animals remained calm and stable throughout the procedure, and no stress-reducing drugs were administered.

      We agree that, unlike older animals, P10 mice are not amenable to prior behavioral training. However, their underdeveloped motor activity and natural docility at this stage allowed for stable head-restrained imaging without inducing overt stress responses. Although no behavioral signs of stress were observed, we acknowledge that subtle physiological effects cannot be entirely excluded. We have added a brief discussion in the Discussion section (newly added subsection: Limitations in this study, the last paragraph) on page 15:

      “Lastly, for awake imaging, the small size of neonatal mice at P10 aids stability during awake PAM imaging, though it limits the feasibility of prior training, which is typically possible in older animals.”

      (5) The temperature of the skull was measured during the hypothermia experiment by lowering the water temperature in the water bath above the animal's head. Considering high metabolism and blood flow in the cortex, it could be challenging to predict cortical temperature based on the skull temperature, particularly in the deeper part of the cortex.

      We thank the reviewer for this helpful comment and for highlighting an important technical consideration. We acknowledge that we did not directly measure intracortical tissue temperature during the hypothermia experiments. While we recognize that relying on skull temperature may have limitations—particularly in reflecting temperature changes in deeper cortical regions—this approach is consistent with clinical practice, where intracortical temperature is typically not measured. Moreover, prior studies have shown that skull or brain surface temperature generally reflects cortical thermal dynamics to a reasonable extent under controlled conditions (Kiyatkin, 2007). We have added the following note in the Discussion section (newly added subsection: Limitations in this study, the 2<sup>nd</sup> paragraph) on page 14:

      “A technical limitation is the absence of direct intracortical temperature measurements during hypothermia; we relied on skull temperature, which may not fully capture temperature dynamics in deeper cortical layers. However, this approach aligns with clinical practice, where intracortical temperature is not typically measured. Future studies could benefit from more precise intracortical assessments.”

      (6) The map of estimated CMRO<sub>2</sub> (Fig. 4B) looks very heterogeneous across the brain surface. Is it a coincidence that the highest CMRO<sub>2</sub> is observed within the central part of the field of view? Is there previous evidence that CMRO<sub>2</sub> in these parts of the mouse cortex could vary a few folds over a 1-2 mm distance?

      We appreciate the reviewer’s insightful observation regarding the spatial heterogeneity observed in the estimated CMRO<sub>2</sub> map (Fig. 4B). This heterogeneity is not a result of scanning bias, as uniform contour scanning was performed across the entire field of view. The higher CMRO<sub>2</sub> values observed in the central region are unlikely to be artifacts and more likely reflect underlying physiological variability.

      Our CMRO<sub>2</sub> estimation is based on an algorithm we previously developed and validated in other tissues. Specifically, we have successfully applied this algorithm to assess oxygen metabolism in the mouse kidney (Sun et al., 2021) and to monitor vascular adaptation and tissue oxygen metabolism during cutaneous wound healing (Sun et al., 2022). These studies demonstrated the algorithm's capability to capture spatial variations in oxygen metabolism. Although the current application to the brain is novel, the algorithm has been validated in controlled experimental settings and shown to produce consistent results. We acknowledge that the observed range of CMRO<sub>2</sub> appears relatively broad across a 1–2 mm distance; however, such heterogeneity may arise from local differences in vascular density, metabolic demand, or tissue oxygenation — all of which can vary across cortical regions, even within small spatial scales. We have added a brief note in the Discussion (Subsection: Optical CMRO<sub>2</sub> detection in neonatal care) on page 13 to acknowledge this point:

      “Additionally, the spatial heterogeneity in estimated CMRO<sub>2</sub> observed in our data may reflect underlying physiological variability, including differences in vascular structure or metabolic demand across cortical regions. Future studies will aim to further validate and interpret these spatial patterns.”

      (7) The justification for using P10 mice in the experiments has not been well presented in the manuscript.

      We thank the reviewer for pointing out the need to clarify our choice of developmental stage. We chose P10 mice for our hypoxia-ischemia injury model because this stage is widely recognized as developmentally comparable to human term infants in terms of brain maturation. This approach has been validated by several previous studies (Clancy et al., 2007; Mallard and Vexler, 2015; Sheldon et al., 2018). We have added the following clarification to the Methods section (Subsection: Neonatal Cerebral HI and Hypothermia Treatment) on page 18:

      “P10 mice were chosen for our experiments as they are widely used to model near-term infants in humans. At this developmental stage, the brain maturation in mice closely parallels that of near-term infants, making them an appropriate model for studying neonatal brain injury and therapeutic interventions (Clancy et al., 2007; Mallard and Vexler, 2015; Sheldon et al., 2018).”

      (8) It was not discussed how the observations made in this manuscript could be affected by the potential discrepancy between the developmental stages of P10 mice and human babies regarding cellular metabolism and neurovascular coupling.

      We thank the reviewer for raising this important point regarding developmental differences between P10 mice and human infants. We have discussed this issue by adding the following statement to the Discussion section (newly added subsection: Limitations in this study, the 1<sup>st</sup> paragraph) on page 15, where we summarize the overall study design and model selection:

      “While P10 mice are widely used to model near-term human infants, developmental differences in cellular metabolism and neurovascular coupling may affect the observed outcomes and limit direct clinical translation (Clancy et al., 2007; Mallard and Vexler, 2015; Sheldon et al., 2018). Nevertheless, the P10 model remains a valuable and widely accepted tool for studying neonatal hypoxia-ischemia mechanisms and evaluating therapeutic interventions.”

      (9) Regarding the brain temperature measurements, the authors should use a new cohort of mice, implant the miniature thermocouples 1 mm, 0.5 mm, and immediately below the skull in different mice, and verify the temperature in the brain cortex under conditions applied in the experiments. The same approach could be applied to a few mice undergoing 4-hr-long hypothermia treatment in a chamber, which will provide information about the brain temperature that resulted in observed protection from the injury.

      We thank the reviewer for this helpful recommendation. We fully agree that direct intracortical temperature measurement would provide more accurate insight into thermal dynamics during hypothermia treatment. However, the primary aim of this study was not to characterize the precise intracortical temperature response under hypothermic conditions, but rather to examine the effects of hypothermia on CMRO<sub>2</sub> and mitochondrial function. Due to the substantial time and resources required to perform direct intracortical temperature monitoring—and considering the technical focus of the current work—we respectfully suggest reserving such investigations for a future study specifically focused on thermal dynamics in hypoxia-ischemia models.

      We have acknowledged this limitation in the subsection Limitations in this study of the Discussion on page 15, noting that skull temperature was used as an approximation of brain temperature and that this approach is consistent with clinical practice, where intracortical temperature is typically not measured. We also note that future studies may benefit from more precise assessments using intracortical probes.

      (10) The mean values presented in Fig. 4G are much lower than the peak values in the 2D panels and potentially were calculated as the average values over the entire field of view. Please provide more details on how CMRO<sub>2</sub> was estimated and if the validity of the measurements is expected across the entire field of view. If there are parts of the field of view where the estimation of CMRO<sub>2</sub> is more reliable for technical reasons, maybe one way to compute the mean values is to restrict the usable data to the more centralized part of the field of view.

      We thank the reviewer for this thoughtful comment. We confirm that CMRO<sub>2</sub> values shown in Figure 4G were calculated as spatial averages over the entire field of view (FOV; ~5 × 3 mm<sup>2</sup>) encompassing both hemicortices, as shown in Figure 1C. Regarding the observed CMRO<sub>2</sub> values, The apparent difference likely reflects a comparison between two different post-HI time points. Specifically, the ~0.5 value shown for the 37°C ipsilateral group in Figure 4G reflects the average CMRO<sub>2</sub> measured 24 hours after HI, while the ~1.5 value in Figure 2D (red line) corresponds to CMRO<sub>2</sub> during the early 0–2 hour post-HI period. The temporal difference accounts for the apparent discrepancy in magnitude. We understand the importance of consistency across the field of view and have clarified this point in the subsection Procedures for PAM Imaging in the Methods on page 17 “For the imaging field covering both hemicortices between the Bregma and Lambda of the neonatal mouse (5 × 3 mm<sup>2</sup> as shown in Figure 1C, with each hemicortex measuring 2.5 × 3 mm<sup>2</sup>)”, as well as in the Figure 4 legend on page 34 “Correlation of CMRO<sub>2</sub> and post-HI brain infarction in mouse neonates at 24 hours”.

      In our model and setup, CMRO<sub>2</sub> estimation is spatially robust across the FOV under standard imaging conditions. We recognize, however, that certain peripheral regions may be more prone to signal attenuation. Future refinement of region selection could further improve spatial averaging strategies. For the current study, full-FOV averaging was used consistently across all groups to maintain comparability.

      (11) Minor: Results presented in Supplementary Tables have too many significant digits.

      Thank you for the helpful suggestion. We have revised Supplementary Tables S1 and S2 to reduce the number of significant digits and improve clarity.

      Reviewer #2 (Public review)

      (1) In this study, authors have hypothesized that mitochondrial injury in HIE is caused by OXPHOS-uncoupling, which is the cause of secondary energy failure in HI. In addition, therapeutic hypothermia rescues secondary energy failure. The methodologies used are state-of-the art and include PAM technique in live animal, bioenergetic studies in the isolated mitochondria, and others.

      The study is comprehensive and impressive. The article is well written and statistical analyses are appropriate.

      We thank the reviewer for the positive feedback.

      (2) The manuscript does not discuss the limitation of this animal model study in view of the clinical scenario of neonatal hypoxia-ischemia.

      We thank the reviewer for this valuable feedback. In response, we have added a dedicated “Limitations in this study” subsection in the Discussion, where we address the potential limitations of this animal model in the context of the clinical scenario of neonatal hypoxia-ischemia in the first paragraph on page 14, including the developmental differences between P10 mice and human infants.

      (3) I see many studies on Pubmed on bioenergetics and HI. Hence, it is unclear what is novel and what is known.

      We thank the reviewer for this important comment regarding the novelty of our study in the context of existing research on bioenergetics and hypoxia-ischemia (HI). To better clarify the novel aspects of our work, we have highlighted the relevant content in the Abstract (page 4) and Introduction (page 5). Specifically, while many studies have explored HI-related bioenergetic dysfunction, the mechanisms by which therapeutic hypothermia modulates CMRO<sub>2</sub> and mitochondrial function post-HI remain poorly understood.

      Abstract on page 4: “However, it is unclear how post-HI hypothermia helps to restore the balance, as cooling reduces CMRO<sub>2</sub>. Also, how transient HI leads to secondary energy failure (SEF) in neonatal brains remains elusive. Using photoacoustic microscopy, we examined the effects of HI on CMRO<sub>2</sub> in awake 10-day-old mice, supplemented by bioenergetic analysis of purified cortical mitochondria.”

      Introduction on page 5: “The use of awake mouse neonates avoided the confounding effects of anesthesia on CBF and CMRO<sub>2</sub> (Cao et al., 2017; Gao et al., 2017; Sciortino et al., 2021; Slupe and Kirsch, 2018). In addition, we measured the oxygen consumption rate (OCR), reactive oxygen species (ROS), and the membrane potential of mitochondria that were immediately purified from the same cortical area imaged by PAM. This dual-modal analysis enabled a direct comparison of cerebral oxygen metabolism and cortical mitochondrial respiration in the same animal. Moreover, we compared the effects of therapeutic hypothermia on oxygen metabolism and mitochondrial respiration, and correlated the extent of CMRO<sub>2</sub>-reduction with the severity of infarction at 24 hours after HI. Our results suggest that blocking HI-induced OXPHOS-uncoupling is an acute effect of hypothermia and that optical detection of CMRO<sub>2</sub> may have clinical applications in HIE.”

      In this study, we propose that uncoupled oxidative phosphorylation (OXPHOS) underlies the secondary energy failure observed after HI, and we demonstrate that hypothermia suppresses this pathological CMRO<sub>2</sub> surge, thereby protecting mitochondrial integrity and preventing injury. Additionally, our use of photoacoustic microscopy (PAM) in awake neonatal mice represents a novel, non-invasive approach to track cerebral oxygen metabolism, with potential clinical relevance for guiding hypothermia therapy.

      (4) What are the limitations of ex-vivo mitochondrial studies?

      We thank the reviewer for this insightful comment. We acknowledge that ex-vivo mitochondrial assays do not fully replicate in vivo physiological conditions, as they lack systemic factors such as blood flow, cellular interactions, and intact tissue architecture. However, these assays are well-established and widely accepted in the field for evaluating mitochondrial function under controlled conditions (Caspersen et al., 2008; Niatsetskaya et al., 2012). Despite their limitations, they enable direct comparisons of mitochondrial activity across experimental groups and provide valuable mechanistic insights that complement in vivo observations.

      (5) PAM technique limits the resolution of the image beyond 500-750 micron depth. Assessing basal ganglia may not be possible with this approach?

      We thank the reviewer for this important comment. We agree that the imaging depth of PAM is limited and may not allow assessment of deeper brain structures such as the basal ganglia. However, in our neonatal HI model—as in many clinical cases of HIE—cortical injury is typically more severe and represents a major focus for mechanistic and therapeutic investigations. The cortical regions assessed with PAM are thus highly relevant to the pathophysiology of neonatal HI. We have now acknowledged this depth limitation in the third paragraph of the newly added Limitations in this study subsection of the Discussion on page 15:

      “Another limitation of this study is the restricted imaging depth of the PAM technique, which is typically less than 1 mm and therefore does not allow assessment of deeper brain structures such as the basal ganglia. However, in both our neonatal HI model and most clinical cases of neonatal hypoxia-ischemia, cortical injury tends to be more prominent and functionally significant. As such, our cortical measurements remain highly relevant for investigating the mechanisms of injury and evaluating therapeutic interventions.”

      (6) Hypothermia in present study reduces the brain temperature from 37 to 29-32 degree centigrade. In clinical set up, head temp is reduced to 33-34.5 in neonatal hypoxia ischemia. Hence a drop in temperature to 29 degrees is much lower relative to the clinical practice. How the present study with greater drop in head temperature can be interpreted for understanding the pathophysiology of therapeutic hypothermia in neonatal HIE. Moreover, in HIE model using higher temperature of 37 and dropping to 29 seems to be much different than the clinical scenario. Please discuss.

      We thank the reviewer for raising this important point regarding temperature ranges in our study. In Figure 1, we used a broader temperature range (down to 29°C) to explore the general relationship between temperature and CMRO<sub>2</sub> in uninjured neonatal mice. This experiment was not intended to model therapeutic hypothermia directly, but rather to characterize the baseline physiological responses.

      For all experiments involving hypothermia as a therapeutic intervention following HI, we consistently maintained a brain temperature of 32°C, which falls within the clinically accepted mild hypothermia range for neonatal HIE (typically 33–34.5°C). We believe this temperature closely mimics clinical practice and supports the translational relevance of our findings.

      (7) NMR was assessed ex-vivo. How does it relate to in vivo assessment. Infants admitted in Neonatal intensive Care Unit, frequently get MRI with spectroscopy. How do the MRS findings in human newborns with HIE correlate with the ex-vivo evaluation of metabolites.

      We thank the reviewer for this insightful question. While our study assessed brain metabolites ex vivo, similar metabolic changes have been observed in vivo using proton magnetic resonance spectroscopy (¹H-MRS) in infants with HIE. Specifically, reductions in N-acetylaspartate (NAA) — a marker of neuronal integrity — have been reported in neonates with severe brain injury, aligning with our ex vivo findings. This correlation between in vivo and ex vivo assessments supports the translational relevance of our model for studying metabolic disruption in neonatal HIE. We have added this point to the subsection Using Optically Measured CMRO<sub>2</sub> to Detect Neonatal HI Brain Injury of the Results on page 8, along with a supporting clinical reference (Lally et al., 2019):

      “In addition, in vivo proton MRS in infants with HIE has also shown a reduction in NAA, particularly in cases of severe injury (Lally et al., 2019). This reduction in NAA, observed in neonatal intensive care settings, reflects neuronal and axonal loss or dysfunction and serves as a biomarker for injury severity. The alignment between our ex vivo observations and in vivo MRS findings in clinical studies reinforces the translational relevance of our model for investigating metabolic disturbances in neonatal HIE.”

      Reviewer #3 (Public review)

      (1) In Sun et al. present a comprehensive study using a novel photoacoustic microscopy setup and mitochondrial analysis to investigate the impact of hypoxia-ischemia (HI) on brain metabolism and the protective role of therapeutic hypothermia. The authors elegantly demonstrate three connected findings: (1) HI initially suppresses brain metabolism, (2) subsequently triggers a metabolic surge linked to oxidative phosphorylation uncoupling and brain damage, and (3) therapeutic hypothermia mitigates HI-induced damage by blocking this surge and reducing mitochondrial stress.

      The study's design and execution are great, with a clear presentation of results and methods. Data is nicely presented, and methodological details are thorough.

      We thank the reviewer for the positive feedback.

      (2) However, a minor concern is the extensive use of abbreviations, which can hinder readability. As all the abbreviations are introduced in the text, their overuse may render the text hard to read to non-specialist audiences. Additionally, sharing the custom Matlab and other software scripts online, particularly those used for blood vessel segmentation, would be a valuable resource for the scientific community. In addition, while the study focuses on the short-term effects of HI, exploring the long-term consequences and definitively elucidating HI's impact on mitochondria would further strengthen the manuscript's impact.

      We thank the reviewer for these valuable suggestions. Please find our point-by-point responses below:

      Abbreviations: To improve readability, we have added a List of Abbreviations on page 3 to help readers, especially non-specialists, navigate the terminology more easily.

      MATLAB Code Availability: The methodology for blood vessel segmentation was described in detail in our previous publication (Sun et al., 2020). We have now updated the subsection Quantification of Cerebral Hemodynamics and Oxygen Metabolism by PAM of the Methods on page 18 to provide additional details and have indicated that the MATLAB scripts are available upon request.

      “Briefly, this process involves generating a vascular map using signal amplitude from the Hilbert transformation, selecting a region slightly larger than the vessel of interest, and applying Otsu’s thresholding method to remove background pixels. Isolated or spurious boundary fragments are then removed to improve boundary smoothness. The customized MATLAB code used for vessel segmentation is available upon request.”

      Long-Term Effects of Hypothermia: We agree that exploring long-term outcomes would enhance the broader impact of this research. While our study focuses on the acute phase following HI, prior studies have shown long-term neuroprotective benefits of therapeutic hypothermia, such as enhanced white matter development (Koo et al., 2017). We have added this point to the fourth paragraph in the subsection Limitations in this study of the Discussion on page 15:

      “While our study focuses on the acute effects of hypothermia, previous research has shown long-term neuroprotective benefits, including improved white matter development post-injury (Koo et al., 2017). These findings highlight hypothermia's potential for both immediate and extended recovery, warranting further study of long-term outcomes.”

      (3) Extensive use of abbreviations.

      Thank you for the helpful suggestion. To improve readability for a broader audience, we have added a List of Abbreviations on page 3 of the manuscript to assist readers in navigating terminology used throughout the text. This has been included as Response #2 to Reviewer #3.

      (4) Share code used to conduct the study.

      Thank you for the suggestion. The methodology for vessel segmentation was previously published (Sun et al., 2020), and we have noted in the subsection Quantification of Cerebral Hemodynamics and Oxygen Metabolism by PAM of the Methods on page 18 that the MATLAB code is available upon request. This has also been included as Response #2 to Reviewer #3.

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    1. Reviewer #2 (Public Review):

      There is increasing evidence that viruses manipulate vectors and hosts to facilitate transmission. For arthropods, saliva plays an essential role for successful feeding on a host and consequently for arthropod-borne viruses that are transmitted during arthropod feeding on new hosts. This is so because saliva constitutes the interaction interface between arthropod and host and contains many enzymes and effectors that allow feeding on a compatible host by neutralizing host defenses. Therefore, it is not surprising that viruses change saliva composition or use saliva proteins to provoke altered vector-host interactions that are favorable for virus transmission. However, detailed mechanistic analyses are scarce. Here, Zhao and coworkers study transmission of rice stripe virus (RSV) by the planthopper Laodelphax striatellus. RSV infects plants as well as the vector, accumulates in salivary glands and is injected together with saliva into a new host during vector feeding.

      The authors present evidence that a saliva-contained enzyme - carbonic anhydrase (CA) - might facilitate virus infection of rice by interfering with callose deposition, a plant defense response. In vitro pull-down experiments, yeast two hybrid assay and binding affinity assays show convincingly interaction between CA and a plant thaumatin-like protein (TLP) that degrades callose. Similar experiments show that CA and TLP interact with the RSV nuclear capsid protein NT to form a complex. Formation of the CA-TLP complex increases TLP activity by roughly 30% and integration of NT increases TLP activity further. This correlates with lower callose content in RSV-infected plants and higher virus titer. Further, silencing CA in vectors decreases virus titers in infected plants. Interestingly, aphid CA was found to play a role in plant infection with two non-persistent non-circulative viruses, turnip mosaic virus and cucumber mosaic virus (Guo et al. 2023 doi.org/10.1073/pnas.2222040120), but the proposed mode of action is entirely different.

      Editors' note: this version was assessed by the editors, without further input from the reviewers.

    2. Author response:

      The following is the authors’ response to the previous reviews

      Reviewer #1 (Public review):

      In this study, the authors identified an insect salivary protein LssaCA participating viral initial infection in plant host. LssaCA directly bond to RSV nucleocapsid protein and then interacted with a rice OsTLP that possessed endo-β-1,3-glucanase activity to enhance OsTLP enzymatic activity and degrade callose caused by insects feeding. The manuscript suffers from fundamental logical issues, making its central narrative highly unconvincing.

      (1) These results suggested that LssaCA promoted RSV infection through a mechanism occurring not in insects or during early stages of viral entry in plants, but in planta after viral inoculation. As we all know that callose deposition affects the feeding of piercing-sucking insects and viral entry, this is contradictory to the results in Fig. S4 and Fig. 2. It is difficult to understand callose functioned in virus reproduction in 3 days post virus inoculation. And authors also avoided to explain this mechanism.

      We appreciate your insightful comment and acknowledge that our initial description may not have been sufficiently clear.

      (1) Based on the EPG results, we found that LssaCA deficiency did not significantly affect total feeding time, time to first non-phloem phase, or time to first phloem feeding (Fig. S8A-D in the revised manuscript). However, the continuity of sap ingestion was disturbed—the N4 waveform of dsLssaCA SBPHs was occasionally interrupted for brief periods (newly added Fig. S8E in the revised manuscript), likely due to phloem blockage. In the revised manuscript, we have added this analysis to the Result section (Lines 285-291 and 578-587) and provided the EPG procedure in Material and Methods section (Lines 670-680).

      (2) We assessed RSV titers immediately post-feeding to confirm the inoculation viral loads (Fig. 2G) and at 3 dpf (Fig. 2H-I) to assess the in-planta effects following viral inoculation. This did not mean that callose functions in virus reproduction at 3 days post viral inoculation. Rather, callose deposition typically occurs immediately in response to insect feeding and virus inoculation. When measuring callose deposition, we allowed insects to feed for 24 h and quantified the callose levels immediately post feeding. The EPG results showed that sap ingestion continuity was disrupted—the N4 waveform of dsLssaCA-treated SBPHs was occasionally interrupted for brief periods (newly added Fig. S8E in the revised manuscript), likely due to phloem blockage. We have reorganized the description to avoid confusion. Please see Lines 139-144 and Fig. S8E for detail.

      (1) Missing significant data. For example, the phenotypes of the transgenic plants, the RSV titers in the transgenic plants (OsTLP OE, ostlp). The staining of callose deposition were also hard to convince. The evidence about RSV NP-LssaCA-OsTLP tripartite interaction to enhance OsTLP enzymatic activity is not enough.

      We thank the reviewer for this insightful comment.

      (1) We constructed OsTLP overexpression and mutant transgenic plants (OsTLP OE and ostlp) and assessed their phenotypes regarding RSV infection levels. Compared with wild-type plants, OsTLP OE plants exhibited accelerated growth, while ostlp plants showed growth inhibition. Following feeding by viruliferous L. striatellus, OsTLP OE plants had significantly higher RSV titers compared with wild-type plants, whereas ostlp mutant plants exhibited significantly lower RSV titers (Lines 221-228 and new Fig. 3I). These results indicate that OsTLP facilitates RSV infection in planta.

      (2) The images showing callose deposition staining are representative of 15 images from 3 independent insect treatments. In addition to the staining images, we quantified fluorescence intensity and measured callose concentration by ELISA.

      (2)  Figure 4a, there was the LssaCA signal in the fourth lane of pull-down data. Did MBP also bind LsssCA? The characterization of pull-down methods was rough a little bit. The method of GST pull-down and MBP pull-down should be characterized more in more detail.

      We thank the reviewer for this helpful comment. MBP did not bind LssaCA. We have repeated the pull-down experiment and provide clearer figure with improved results. We have also revised and provided more detailed descriptions of the GST pull-down and MBP pull-down methods. Please refer to Lines 744-774 and Figure 4A for details.

    1. Author response:

      The following is the authors’ response to the previous reviews

      Reviewer #1 (Public review): 

      The medicinal leech preparation is an amenable system in which to understand how the underlying cellular networks for locomotion function. A previously identified non-spiking neuron (NS) was studied and found to alter the mean firing frequency of a crawl-related motoneuron (DE-3), which fires during the contraction phase of crawling. The data are mostly solid. Identifying upstream neurons responsible for crawl motor patterning is essential for understanding how rhythmic behavior is controlled.

      Review of Revision: 

      On a positive note, the rationale for the study is clearer to me now after reading the authors' responses to both reviewers, but that information, as described in the authors' responses, is minimally incorporated into the current revised paper. Incorporating a discussion of previous work on the NS cell has, indeed, improved the paper. 

      I suggested earlier that the paper be edited for clarity but not much text has been changed since the first draft. I will provide an example of the types of sentences that are confusing. The title of the paper is: "Phase-specific premotor inhibition modulates leech rhythmic motor output". Are the authors referring to the inhibition created by premotor neurons (e.g., on to the motoneurons) or the inhibition that the premotor neurons receive? 

      In this case, this is an interesting ambiguity: NS is inhibited and that inhibition is directly transmitted to the motoneurons because both cells are electrically coupled.  We believe that the title does not disguise the findings conveyed by the manuscript.

      I also find the paper still confusing with regard to the suggested "functional homology" with the vertebrate Renshaw cells. When the authors set up this expectation of homology (should be analogy) in the introduction and other sections of the paper, one would assume that the NS cell would be directly receiving excitation from a motoneuron (like DE-3) and, in turn, the motoneuron would then receive some sort of inhibitory input to regulate its firing frequency. Essentially, I have always viewed the Renshaw cells as nature's clever way to monitor the ongoing activity of a motoneuron while also providing recurrent feedback or "recurrent inhibition" to modify that cell's excitatory state. The authors present their initial idea below on line 62. Authors write: "These neurons are present as bilateral pairs in each segmental ganglion and are functional homologs of the mammalian Renshaw cells (Szczupak, 2014). These spinal cord cells receive excitatory inputs from motoneurons and, in turn, transmit inhibitory signals to the motoneurons (Alvarez and Fyffe, 2007)." 

      We agree with Reviewer #2: the correct term is "analogous," not "homologous." Thanks for pointing this out. We changed the term throughout the text.

      The Reviewer is also right in the appreciation of the role of Renshaw cells. NS plays exactly the role that the Reviewer expresses. The ONLY difference is that NS is inhibited by the motoneurons, and in turn transmits this inhibition to the motoneurons via the rectifying electrical junctions. Attending the confusion that our description caused in the Reviewer, we have modified the cited sentence accordingly now in lines 65-67.

      Minor note:

      I suggest re-writing this last sentence as "these" is confusing. Change to: 'In the spinal cord, Renshaw interneurons receive excitatory inputs from motoneurons and, in turn, transmit inhibitory signals to them (Alvarez and Fyffe, 2007).'] 

      Please, see the changes mentioned above.

      Furthermore, the authors note that (line 69 on): "In the context of this circuit the activity of excitatory motoneurons evokes chemically mediated inhibitory synaptic potentials in NS. Additionally, the NS neurons are electrically coupled......In physiological conditions this coupling favors the transmission of inhibitory signals from NS to motoneurons." Based on what is being conveyed here, I see a disconnect with the "functional homology" being presented earlier. I may be missing something, but the Renshaw analogy seems to be quite different compared to what looks like reciprocal inhibition in the leech. If the authors want to make the analogy to Renshaw cells clearer, then they should make a simple ball and stick diagram of the leech system and visually compare it to the Renshaw/motoneuron circuit with regard to functionality. This simple addition would help many readers. 

      We have simplified the description regarding the Renshaw cell (lines 65-67) to avoid the “details” of the connectivity between the two circuits.

      This report focuses on NS neurons and their role in crawling; we mention the analogy with Renshaw cells to widen the interest of the results. We do not think that making a special diagram to compare how the two neurons play a similar role via different connections among the players is useful in the context of this manuscript.

      The Abstract, Authors write (line 19), "Specifically, we analyzed how electrophysiological manipulation of a premotor nonspiking (NS) neuron, that forms a recurrent inhibitory circuit (homologous to vertebrate Renshaw cells)...."

      First, a circuit would not be homologous to a cell, and the term homology implies a strict developmental/evolutionary commonality. At best, I would use the term functionally analogous but even then I am still not sure that they are functionally that similar (see comments above). 

      Reviewer #2 is right. We changed the sentence in line 20.

      Line 22: "The study included a quantitative analysis of motor units active throughout the fictive crawling cycle that shows that the rhythmic motor output in isolated ganglia mirrors the phase relationships observed in vivo." This sentence must be revised to indicate that not all of the extracellular units were demonstrated to be motor units. Revise to: "The study included a quantitative analysis of identified and putative motor units active throughout the fictive crawling cycle that shows.....' 

      Line 187 regarding identifying units as motoneurons: Authors write, "While multiple extracellular recordings have been performed previously (Eisenhart et al., 2000), these results (Figure 4) present the first quantitative analysis of motor units activated throughout the crawling cycle in this type of recordings." The authors cannot assume that the units in the recorded nerves belong only to motoneurons. Based on their first rebuttal, the authors seem to be reluctant to accept the idea that the extracellularly recorded units might represent a different class of neurons. They admit that some sensory neurons (with somata located centrally) do, indeed, travel out the same nerves recorded, but go on to explain why they would not be active. 

      The leech has a variety of sensory organs that are located in the periphery, and some of these sensory neurons do show rhythmic activity correlated with locomotor activity (see Blackshaw's early work). The numerous stretch receptors, in fact, have very large axons that pass through all the nerves recorded in the current paper. 

      In Fig. 4, it is interesting that the waveforms of all the units recorded in the PP nerve exhibit a reversal in waveform as compared to those in the DP nerve, which might indicate (based on bipolar differential recording) that the units in the PP nerve are being propagated in the opposite direction (i.e., are perhaps afferent). Rhythmic presynaptic inhibition and excitation is commonly seen for stretch receptors within the CNS (see the work of Burrows) and many such cells are under modulatory control. 

      Most likely, the majority of the units are from motoneurons, but we do not really know at this point. The authors should reframe their statements throughout the paper as: 'While multiple extracellular recordings have been performed previously (Eisenhart et al., 2000), these results (Figure 4) present the first quantitative analysis of multiple extracellular units, using spike sorting methods, which are activated throughout the crawling cycle.' In cases where the identity of the unit is known, then it is fine to state that, but when the identity of the unit is not known, then there should be some qualification and stated as 'putative motor units' 

      We understand the concern of Reviewer #2 regarding the type of neurons active during dopamine-induced crawling in isolated ganglia. However, we believe there is sufficient evidence to support that the recorded spikes originate from motoneurons. As readers may share the same concern, we have added a paragraph explaining why spikes from somatic sensory neurons such as P or T cells, or from stretch receptors, are unlikely to contribute (lines 206-214). We included the term putative in the abstract.

      The Methods section:

      Needs to include the full parameters that were used to assess whether bursting activity was qualified in ways to be considered crawling activity or not. Typically, crawl-like burst periods of no more than 25 seconds have been the limit for their qualification as crawling activity. In Fig 2F, for example, the inter-burst period is over 35 seconds; that coupled with an average 5 second burst duration would bring the burst period to 40 seconds, which is substantially out of range for there to be bursting relevant to crawl activity. Simply put, long DE-3 burst periods are often observed but may not be indicative of a crawl state as the CV motoneurons are no longer out of phase with DE-3. A number of papers have adopted this criterion. 

      We now indicate in the methods the range of period values measured in our experiments.  For the reviewer informatio we show here histograms depicting the variability of period and duty cycle values recorded in our experiments (control conditions). The Reviewer can see that the bursting activity of DE-3 fall within what has been published.

      Author response image 1.

      Crawling in isolated ganglia. A. Histogram of periods end-to-end during crawling in isolated ganglia. The dotted line indicates the mean obtained from the averages of all experiments. The solid black line represents the mean of all cycles across all experiments. B. As in A, for the duty cycle calculated using end-to-end periods.  (n = 210 cycles from 45 ganglia obtained from 32 leeches in all cases).

      Reviewer #1 (Recommendations for the authors): 

      Minor comments-

      Line 100: "In the frame of the recurrent inhibitory circuit, NS is the target of inhibitory signals". Suggestion: 'Within the framework of the recurrent inhibitory circuit, NS is the target of inhibitory signals.' 

      Changed as suggested (line 107).

      Line 163: "This series of experiments proves that, as predicted based on the known circuit (Figure 164 1C), inhibitory signals onto NS premotor neurons were transmitted to DE-3 motoneurons and counteracted their excitatory drive during crawling, limiting their firing frequency". I think this sentence is too strong plus needs some editing. Suggestion: 'As predicted based on the known circuit (Figure 164 1C), this series of experiments indicates that inhibitory signals onto NS premotor neurons are transmitted to DE-3 motoneurons, thus limiting their firing frequency and counteracting their excitatory drive during crawling."

      Changed as suggested.

      Lines 86, 292 and 304 and Fig 4 legend: "Different from DE-3, In-Phase units showed a marked decrease in the maximum bFF along time." Suggestion: Replace the word "along" with 'across' time. Also replace those words in the Fig 4 legend and Line 80...."along" (replace with 'across') the different stages of crawling. 

      Changed as suggested.

      Line 311: "bursts and a concurrent inhibitory input via NS (Figure 7). Coherent with this interpretation, the activity level of the Anti- Phase units was not influenced by these inhibitory signals". Suggestion: Replace the word "coherent" with 'consistent'. 

      Changed as suggested.

      Line 332: "...offer the particular advantage of allowing electrical manipulation of individual neurons in wildtype adults," I am unsure what the authors are attempting to convey. Not sure what they mean by "wildtype" in this context and why that would matter. 

      “wildtype” was eliminated

      We thank Reviewer #2 for the suggested edits to the text.

    1. On technical grounds, it should be much harder to get away with crimes today than in 1960, and since the vast majority of crime is committed by repeat criminals who could be much more easily apprehended near the beginning of their sprees, one would naively expect this alone to significantly reduce crime. But clearance rates have instead plummeted2; it’s much easier for the typical criminal to get away with it. How much worse would this be without these advances?

      Less money goes towards solving crimes. There are no strong incentives to reduce it.

      If someone asks - how come and why - it's difficult to see what are the models that are being used by the politicians to decide whether something is harmful and to what extent for their ideology or chances for being elected / re-elected. That's because systems are multi-variant - it's the effect of something in the mix rather than stand alone.

    1. Reviewer #1 (Public review):

      Summary:

      This study advances the lab's growing body of evidence exploring higher-order learning and its neural mechanisms. They recently found that NMDA receptor activity in the perirhinal cortex was necessary for integrating stimulus-stimulus associations with stimulus-shock associations (mediated learning) to produce preconditioned fear, but it was not necessary for forming stimulus-shock associations. On the other hand, basolateral amygdala NMDA receptor activity is required for forming stimulus-shock memories. Based on these facts, the authors assessed: 1. why the perirhinal cortex is necessary for mediated learning but not direct fear learning and 2. the determinants of perirhinal cortex versus basolateral amygdala necessity for forming direct versus indirect fear memories. The authors used standard sensory preconditioning and variants designed to manipulate the novelty and temporal relationship between stimuli and shock and, therefore, the attentional state under which associative information might be processed. Under experimental conditions where information would presumably be processed primarily in the periphery of attention (temporal distance between stimulus/shock or stimulus pre-exposure), perirhinal cortex NMDA receptor activation was required for learning indirect associations. On the other hand, when information would likely be processed in focal attention (novel stimulus contiguous with shock), basolateral amygdala NMDA activity was required for learning direct associations. Together, the findings indicate that the perirhinal cortex and basolateral amygdala subserve peripheral and focal attention, respectively. The authors provide support for their conclusions using careful, hypothesis-driven experimental design, rigorous methods, and integrating their findings with the relevant literature on learning theory, information processing, and neurobiology. Therefore, this work will be highly interesting to several fields.

      Strengths:

      (1) The experiments were carefully constructed and designed to test hypotheses that were rooted in the lab's previous work, in addition to established learning theory and information processing background literature.

      (2) There are clear predictions and alternative outcomes. The provided table does an excellent job of condensing and enhancing the readability of a large amount of data.

      (3) In a broad sense, attention states are a component of nearly every behavioral experiment. Therefore, identifying their engagement by dissociable brain areas and under different learning conditions is an important area of research.

      (4) The authors clearly note where they replicated their own findings, report full statistical measures, effect sizes, and confidence intervals, indicating the level of scientific rigor.

      (5) The findings raise questions for future experiments that will further test the authors' hypotheses; this is well discussed.

    2. Author response:

      The following is the authors’ response to the original reviews.

      Reviewer #1 (Public review):

      Summary:

      This study advances the lab's growing body of evidence exploring higher-order learning and its neural mechanisms. They recently found that NMDA receptor activity in the perirhinal cortex was necessary for integrating stimulus-stimulus associations with stimulus-shock associations (mediated learning) to produce preconditioned fear, but it was not necessary for forming stimulus-shock associations. On the other hand, basolateral amygdala NMDA receptor activity is required for forming stimulus-shock memories. Based on these facts, the authors assessed: (1) why the perirhinal cortex is necessary for mediated learning but not direct fear learning, and (2) the determinants of perirhinal cortex versus basolateral amygdala necessity for forming direct versus indirect fear memories. The authors used standard sensory preconditioning and variants designed to manipulate the novelty and temporal relationship between stimuli and shock and, therefore, the attentional state under which associative information might be processed. Under experimental conditions where information would presumably be processed primarily in the periphery of attention (temporal distance between stimulus/shock or stimulus pre-exposure), perirhinal cortex NMDA receptor activation was required for learning indirect associations. On the other hand, when information would likely be processed in focal attention (novel stimulus contiguous with shock), basolateral amygdala NMDA activity was required for learning direct associations. Together, the findings indicate that the perirhinal cortex and basolateral amygdala subserve peripheral and focal attention, respectively. The authors provide support for their conclusions using careful, hypothesis-driven experimental design, rigorous methods, and integrating their findings with the relevant literature on learning theory, information processing, and neurobiology. Therefore, this work will be highly interesting to several fields.

      Strengths:

      (1) The experiments were carefully constructed and designed to test hypotheses that were rooted in the lab's previous work, in addition to established learning theory and information processing background literature.

      (2) There are clear predictions and alternative outcomes. The provided table does an excellent job of condensing and enhancing the readability of a large amount of data.

      (3) In a broad sense, attention states are a component of nearly every behavioral experiment. Therefore, identifying their engagement by dissociable brain areas and under different learning conditions is an important area of research.

      (4) The authors clearly note where they replicated their own findings, report full statistical measures, effect sizes, and confidence intervals, indicating the level of scientific rigor.

      (5) The findings raise questions for future experiments that will further test the authors' hypotheses; this is well discussed.

      Weaknesses:

      As a reader, it is difficult to interpret how first-order fear could be impaired while preconditioned fear is intact; it requires a bit of "reading between the lines".

      We appreciate the Reviewer’s point and have attempted to address on lines 55-63 of the revised paper: “In a recent pair of studies, we extended these findings in two ways. First, we showed that S1 does not just form an association with shock in stage 2; it also mediates an association between S2 and the shock. Thus, S2 enters testing in stage 3 already conditioned, able to elicit fear responses (Wong et al., 2019). Second, we showed that this mediated S2-shock association requires NMDAR-activation in the PRh, as well as communication between the PRh and BLA (Wong et al., 2025). These findings raise two critical questions: 1) why is the PRh engaged for mediated conditioning of S2 but not for direct conditioning of S1; and 2) more generally, what determines whether the BLA and/or PRh is engaged for conditioning of the S1 and/or S2?”

      Reviewer #2 (Public review):

      Summary:

      This paper continues the authors' research on the roles of the basolateral amygdala (BLA) and the perirhinal cortex (PRh) in sensory preconditioning (SPC) and second-order conditioning (SOC). In this manuscript, the authors explore how prior exposure to stimuli may influence which regions are necessary for conditioning to the second-order cue (S2). The authors perform a series of experiments which first confirm prior results shown by the author - that NMDA receptors in the PRh are necessary in SPC during conditioning of the first-order cue (S1) with shock to allow for freezing to S2 at test; and that NMDA receptors in the BLA are necessary for S1 conditioning during the S1-shock pairings. The authors then set out to test the hypothesis that the PRh encodes associations in a peripheral state of attention, whereas the BLA encodes associations in a focal state of attention, similar to the A1 and A2 states in Wagner's theory of SOP. To do this, they show that BLA is necessary for conditioning to S2 when the S2 is first exposed during a serial compound procedure - S2-S1-shock. To determine whether pre-exposure of S2 will shift S2 to a peripheral focal state, the authors run a design in which S2-S1 presentations are given prior to the serial compound phase. The authors show that this restores NMDA receptor activity within the PRh as necessary for the fear response to S2 at test. They then test whether the presence of S1 during the serial compound conditioning allows the PRh to support the fear responses to S2 by introducing a delay conditioning paradigm in which S1 is no longer present. The authors find that PRh is no longer required and suggest that this is due to S2 remaining in the primary focal state.

      Strengths:

      As with their earlier work, the authors have performed a rigorous series of experiments to better understand the roles of the BLA and PRh in the learning of first- and second-order stimuli. The experiments are well-designed and clearly presented, and the results show definitive differences in functionality between the PRh and BLA. The first experiment confirms earlier findings from the lab (and others), and the authors then build on their previous work to more deeply reveal how these regions differ in how they encode associations between stimuli. The authors have done a commendable job of pursuing these questions.

      Table 1 is an excellent way to highlight the results and provide the reader with a quick look-up table of the findings.

      Weaknesses:

      The authors have attempted to resolve the question of the roles of the PRh and BLA in SPC and SOC, which the authors have explored in previous papers. Laudably, the authors have produced substantial results indicating how these two regions function in the learning of first- and second-order cues, providing an opportunity to narrow in on possible theories for their functionality. Yet the authors have framed this experiment in terms of an attentional framework and have argued that the results support this particular framework and hypothesis - that the PRh encodes peripheral and the BLA encodes focal states of learning. This certainly seems like a viable and exciting hypothesis, yet I don't see why the results have been completely framed and interpreted this way. It seems to me that there are still some alternative interpretations that are plausible and should be included in the paper.

      We appreciate the Reviewer’s point and have attempted to address it on lines 566-594 of the Discussion: “An additional point to consider in relation to Experiments 3A, 3B, 4A and 4B is the level of surprise that rats experienced following presentations of the familiar S2 in stage 2. Specifically, in Experiments 3A and 3B, S2 was followed by the expected S1 (low surprise) and its conditioning required activation of NMDA receptors in the PRh and not the BLA. By contrast, in Experiments 4A and 4B, S2 was followed by omission of the expected S1 (high surprise) and its conditioning required activation of NMDA receptors in the BLA and not the PRh. This raises the possibility that surprise, or prediction error, also influences the way that S2 is processed in focal and peripheral states of attention. When prediction error is low, S2 is processed in the peripheral state of attention: hence, learning under these circumstances requires NMDA receptor activation in the PRh and not the BLA. By contrast, when prediction error is high, S2 is preserved in the focal state of attention: hence, learning under these circumstances requires NMDA receptor activation in the BLA and not the PRh. The impact of prediction error on the processing of S2 could be assessed using two types of designs. In the first design, rats are pre-exposed to S2-S1 pairings in stage 1 and this is followed by S2-S3-shock pairings in stage 2. The important feature of this design is that, in stage 2, the S2 is followed by surprise in omission of S1 and presentation of S3. Thus, if a large prediction error maintains processing of the familiar S2 in the BLA, we might expect that its conditioning in this design would require NMDA receptor activation in the BLA (in contrast to the results of Experiment 3B) and no longer require NMDA receptor activation in the PRh (in contrast to the results of Experiment 3A). In the second design, rats are pre-exposed to S2 alone in stage 1 and this is followed by S2-[trace]-shock pairings in stage 2. The important feature of this design is that, in stage 2, the S2 is not followed by the surprising omission of any stimulus. Thus, if a small prediction error shifts processing of the familiar S2 to the PRh, we might expect that its conditioning in this design would no longer require NMDA receptor activation in the BLA (in contrast to the results of Experiment 4B) but, instead, require NMDA receptor activation in the PRh (in contrast to the results of Experiment 4A). Future studies will use both designs to determine whether prediction error influences the processing of S2 in the focus versus periphery of attention and, thereby, whether learning about this stimulus requires NMDA receptor activation in the BLA or PRh.”

      Reviewer #3 (Public review):

      Summary:

      This manuscript presents a series of experiments that further investigate the roles of the BLA and PRH in sensory preconditioning, with a particular focus on understanding their differential involvement in the association of S1 and S2 with shock.

      Strengths:

      The motivation for the study is clearly articulated, and the experimental designs are thoughtfully constructed. I especially appreciate the inclusion of Table 1, which makes the designs easy to follow. The results are clearly presented, and the statistical analyses are rigorous. My comments below mainly concern areas where the writing could be improved to help readers more easily grasp the logic behind the experiments.

      Weaknesses:

      (1) Lines 56-58: The two previous findings should be more clearly summarized. Specifically, it's unclear whether the "mediated S2-shock" association occurred during Stage 2 or Stage 3. I assume the authors mean Stage 2, but Stage 2 alone would not yet involve "fear of S2," making this expression a bit confusing.

      We apologise for the confusion and have revised the summary of our previous findings on lines 55-63. The revised text now states: “In a recent pair of studies, we extended these findings in two ways. First, we showed that S1 does not just form an association with shock in stage 2; it also mediates an association between S2 and the shock. Thus, S2 enters testing in stage 3 already conditioned, able to elicit fear responses (Wong et al., 2019). Second, we showed that this mediated S2-shock association requires NMDAR-activation in the PRh, as well as communication between the PRh and BLA (Wong et al., 2025). These findings raise two critical questions: 1) why is the PRh engaged for mediated conditioning of S2 but not for direct conditioning of S1; and 2) more generally, what determines whether the BLA and/or PRh is engaged for conditioning of the S1 and/or S2?”

      (2) Line 61: The phrase "Pavlovian fear conditioning" is ambiguous in this context. I assume it refers to S1-shock or S2-shock conditioning. If so, it would be clearer to state this explicitly.

      Apologies for the ambiguity - we have omitted the term “Pavlovian” which may have been the source of confusion: The revised text on lines 60-63 now states: “These findings raise two critical questions: 1) why is the PRh engaged for mediated conditioning of S2 but not for direct conditioning of S1; and 2) more generally, what determines whether the BLA and/or PRh is engaged for conditioning of the S1 and/or S2?”

      (3) Regarding the distinction between having or not having Stage 1 S2-S1 pairings, is "novel vs. familiar" the most accurate way to frame this? This terminology could be misleading, especially since one might wonder why S2 couldn't just be presented alone on Stage 1 if novelty is the critical factor. Would "outcome relevance" or "predictability" be more appropriate descriptors? If the authors choose to retain the "novel vs. familiar" framing, I suggest providing a clear explanation of this rationale before introducing the predictions around Line 118.

      We have incorporated the suggestion regarding “predictability” while also retaining “novelty” as follows. 

      L76-85: “For example, different types of arrangements may influence the substrates of conditioning to S2 by influencing its novelty and/or its predictive value at the time of the shock, on the supposition that familiar stimuli are processed in the periphery of attention and, thereby, the PRh (Bogacz & Brown, 2003; Brown & Banks, 2015; Brown & Bashir, 2002; Martin et al., 2013; McClelland et al., 2014; Morillas et al., 2017; Murray & Wise, 2012; Robinson et al., 2010; Suzuki & Naya, 2014; Voss et al., 2009; Yang et al., 2023) whereas novel stimuli are processed in the focus of attention and, thereby, the amygdala (Holmes et al., 2018; Qureshi et al., 2023; Roozendaal et al., 2006; Rutishauser et al., 2006; Schomaker & Meeter, 2015; Wright et al., 2003).”

      L116-120: “Subsequent experiments then used variations of this protocol to examine whether the engagement of NMDAR in the PRh or BLA for Pavlovian fear conditioning is influenced by the novelty/predictive value of the stimuli at the time of the shock (second implication of theory) as well as their distance or separation from the shock (third implication of theory; Table 1).”

      (4) Line 121: This statement should refer to S1, not S2.

      (5) Line 124: This one should refer to S2, not S1.

      We have checked the text on these lines for errors and confirmed that the statements are correct. The lines encompassing this text (L121-130) are reproduced here for convenience:

      (1) When rats are exposed to novel S2-S1-shock sequences, conditioning of S2 and S1 will be disrupted by a DAP5 infusion into the BLA but not into the PRh (Experiments 2A and 2B);

      (2) When rats are exposed to S2-S1 pairings and then to S2-S1-shock sequences, conditioning of S2 will be disrupted by a DAP5 infusion into the PRh but not the BLA whereas conditioning of S1 will be disrupted by a DAP5 infusion into the BLA not the PRh (Experiments 3A and 3B);

      (3) When rats are exposed to S2-S1 pairings and then to S2 (trace)-shock pairings, conditioning of S2 will be disrupted by a DAP5 into the BLA not the PRh (Experiments 4A and 4B).

      (6) Additionally, the rationale for Experiment 4 is not introduced before the Results section. While it is understandable that Experiment 4 functions as a follow-up to Experiment 3, it would be helpful to briefly explain the reasoning behind its inclusion.

      Experiment 4 follows from the results obtained in Experiment 3; and, as noted, the reasoning for its inclusion is provided locally in its introduction. We attempted to flag this experiment earlier in the general introduction to the paper; but this came at the cost of clarity to the overall story. As such, our revised paper retains the local introduction to this experiment. It is reproduced here for convenience:

      “In Experiments 3A and 3B, conditioning of the pre-exposed S1 required NMDAR-activation in the BLA and not the PRh; whereas conditioning of the pre-exposed S2 required NMDAR-activation in the PRh and not the BLA. We attributed these findings to the fact that the pre-exposed S2 was separated from the shock by S1 during conditioning of the S2-S1-shock sequences in stage 2: hence, at the time of the shock, S2 was no longer processed in the focal state of attention supported by the BLA; instead, it was processed in the peripheral state of attention supported by the PRh.

      “Experiments 4A and 4B employed a modification of the protocol used in Experiments 3A and 3B to examine whether a pre-exposed S1 influences the processing of a pre-exposed S2 across conditioning with S2-S1-shock sequences. The design of these experiments is shown in Figure 4A. Briefly, in each experiment, two groups of rats were exposed to a session of S2-S1 pairings in stage 1 and, 24 hours later, a session of S2-[trace]-shock pairings in stage 2, where the duration of the trace interval was equivalent to that of S1 in the preceding experiments. Immediately prior to the trace conditioning session in stage 2, one group in each experiment received an infusion of DAP5 or vehicle only into either the PRh (Experiment 4A) or BLA (Experiment 4B). Finally, all rats were tested with presentations of the S2 alone in stage 3. If the substrates of conditioning to S2 are determined only by the amount of time between presentations of this stimulus and foot shock in stage 2, the results obtained in Experiments 4A and 4B should be the same as those obtained in Experiments 3A and 3B: acquisition of freezing to S2 will require activation of NMDARs in the PRh and not the BLA. If, however, the presence of S1 in the preceding experiments (Experiments 3A and 3B) accelerated the rate at which processing of S2 transitioned from the focus of attention to its periphery, the results obtained in Experiments 4A and 4B will differ from those obtained in Experiments 3A and 3B. That is, in contrast to the preceding experiments where acquisition of freezing to S2 required NMDAR-activation in the PRh and not the BLA, here acquisition of freezing to S2 should require NMDAR-activation in the BLA but not the PRh.”

      Reviewer #1 (Recommendations for the authors):

      I greatly enjoyed reading and reviewing this manuscript, and so I only have boilerplate recommendations.

      (1) I might add a couple of sentences discussing how/why preconditioned fear could be intact while first-order fear is impaired. Of course, if I am interpreting the provided interpretation correctly, the reason is that peripheral processing is still intact even when BLA NMDA receptors are blocked, and so mediated conditioning still occurs. Does this mean that mediated conditioning does not require learning the first-order relationship, and that they occur in parallel? Perhaps I just missed this, but I cannot help but wonder whether/how the psychological processes at play might change when first-order learning is impaired, so this would be greatly appreciated.

      As noted above, we have revised the general introduction (around lines 55-59) to clarify that the direct S1-shock and mediated S2-shock associations form in parallel. Hence, manipulations that disrupt first-order fear to the S1 (such as a BLA infusion of the NMDA receptor antagonist, DAP5) do not automatically disrupt the expression of sensory preconditioned fear to the S2.

      (2) Adding to the above - does the SOP or another theory predict serial vs parallel information flow from focal state to peripheral, or perhaps it is both to some extent?

      SOP predicts both serial and parallel processing of information in its focal and peripheral states. That is, some proportion of the elements that comprise a stimulus may decay from the focal state of attention to the periphery (serial processing); hence, at any given moment, the elements that comprise a stimulus can be represented in both focal and peripheral states (parallel processing).

      Given the nature of the designs and tools used in the present study (between-subject assessment of a DAP5 effect in the BLA or PRh), we selected parameters that would maximize the processing of the S2 and S1 stimuli in one or the other state of activation; hence the results of the present study. We are currently examining the joint processing of stimulus elements across focal and peripheral states using simultaneous recordings of activity in the BLA and PRh. These recordings are collected from rats trained in the different stages of a within-subject sensory preconditioning protocol. The present study created the basis for this work, which will be published separately in due course.

      (3) The organization of PRh vs BLA is nice and consistent across each figure, but I would suggest adding any kind of additional demarcation beyond the colors and text, maybe just more space between AB / CD. The figure text indicating PRh/BLA is a bit small.

      Thank you for the suggestion – we have added more space between the top and bottom panels of the figure.

      (4) Line 496 typo ..."in the BLA but not the BLA".

      Apologies for the type - this has been corrected.

      Reviewer #2 (Recommendations for the authors):

      I found the experiments to be extremely well-designed and the results convincing and exciting. The hypothesis of the focal and peripheral states of attention being encoded by BLA and PRh respectively, is enticing, yet as indicated in the public review, this does not seem to be the only possible interpretation. This is my only serious comment for the authors.

      (1) I think it would be worth reframing the article slightly to give credence to alternative hypotheses. Not to say that the authors' intriguing hypothesis shouldn't be an integral part of the introduction, but no alternatives are mentioned. In experiment 2, could the fact that S2 is already being a predictor of S1, not block new learning to S2? In the framework of stimulus-stimulus associations, there would be no surprise in the serial-compound stage of conditioning at the onset of S1. This may prevent direct learning of the S2-shock association within the BLA. This type of association may as well (S2 predicts S1, but it's omitted), which could support learning by S2. fall under the peripheral/focal theory, but I don't think it's necessary to frame this possibility in terms of a peripheral/focal theory. To build on this alternative interpretation, the absence of S1 in experiment 4 may induce a prediction error. The peripheral and focal states appear to correspond to A2 and A1 in SOP extremely well, and I think it would potentially add interest and support. If the authors do intend to make the paper a strong argument for their hypothesis, perhaps a few additional experiments may be introduced. If the novelty of S2 is critical for S2 not to be processed in a focal state during the serial compound stage, could pre-exposure of S2 alone allow for dependence of S2-shock on the PRh? Assuming this is what the authors would predict, this might disentangle the S-S theory mentioned above from the peripheral/focal theory. Or perhaps run an experiment S2-X in stage 1 and S2-S1-shock in stage 2? This said, I think the experiments are more than sufficient for an exciting paper as is, and I don't think running additional experiments is necessary. I would only argue for this if the authors make a hard claim about the peripheral/focal theory, as is the case for the way the paper is currently written.

      We appreciate the reviewer’s excellent point and suggestions. We have included an additional paragraph in the Discussion on page 24 (lines 566-594).  “An additional point to consider in relation to Experiments 3A, 3B, 4A and 4B is the level of surprise that rats experienced following presentations of the familiar S2 in stage 2. Specifically, in Experiments 3A and 3B, S2 was followed by the expected S1 (low surprise) and its conditioning required activation of NMDA receptors in the PRh and not the BLA. By contrast, in Experiments 4A and 4B, S2 was followed by omission of the expected S1 (high surprise) and its conditioning required activation of NMDA receptors in the BLA and not the PRh. This raises the possibility that surprise, or prediction error, also influences the way that S2 is processed in focal and peripheral states of attention. When prediction error is low, S2 is processed in the peripheral state of attention: hence, learning under these circumstances requires NMDA receptor activation in the PRh and not the BLA. By contrast, when prediction error is high, S2 is preserved in the focal state of attention: hence, learning under these circumstances requires NMDA receptor activation in the BLA and not the PRh. The impact of prediction error on the processing of S2 could be assessed using two types of designs. In the first design, rats are pre-exposed to S2-S1 pairings in stage 1 and this is followed by S2-S3-shock pairings in stage 2. The important feature of this design is that, in stage 2, the S2 is followed by surprise in omission of S1 and presentation of S3. Thus, if a large prediction error maintains processing of the familiar S2 in the BLA, we might expect that its conditioning in this design would require NMDA receptor activation in the BLA (in contrast to the results of Experiment 3B) and no longer require NMDA receptor activation in the PRh (in contrast to the results of Experiment 3A). In the second design, rats are pre-exposed to S2 alone in stage 1 and this is followed by S2-[trace]-shock pairings in stage 2. The important feature of this design is that, in stage 2, the S2 is not followed by the surprising omission of any stimulus. Thus, if a small prediction error shifts processing of the familiar S2 to the PRh, we might expect that its conditioning in this design would no longer require NMDA receptor activation in the BLA (in contrast to the results of Experiment 4B) but, instead, require NMDA receptor activation in the PRh (in contrast to the results of Experiment 4A). Future studies will use both designs to determine whether prediction error influences the processing of S2 in the focus versus periphery of attention and, thereby, whether learning about this stimulus requires NMDA receptor activation in the BLA or PRh.”

      (3) I was surprised the authors didn't frame their hypothesis more in terms of Wagner's SOP model. It was minimally mentioned in the introduction or the authors' theory if it were included more in the introduction. I was wondering whether the authors may have avoided this framing to avoid an expectation for modeling SOP in their design. If this were the case, I think the paper stands on its own without modeling, and at least for myself, a comparison to SOP would not require modeling of SOP. If this was the authors' concern for avoiding it, I would suggest to the authors that they need not be concerned about it.

      We appreciate the endorsement of Wagner’s SOP theory as a nice way of framing our results. We are currently working on a paper in which we use simulations to show how Wagner’s theory can accommodate the present findings as well as others in the literature on sensory preconditioning. For this reason, we have not changed the current paper in relation to this point.

    1. Reviewer #1 (Public review):

      I have to preface my evaluation with a disclosure that I lack the mathematical expertise to fully assess what seems to be the authors' main theoretical contribution. I am providing this assessment to the best of my ability, but I cannot substitute for a reviewer with more advanced mathematical/physical training.

      Summary:

      This paper describes a new theoretical framework for measuring parsimony preferences in human judgments. The authors derive four metrics that they associate with parsimony (dimensionality, boundary, volume, and robustness) and measure whether human adults are sensitive to these metrics. In two tasks, adults had to choose one of two flower beds which a statistical sample was generated from, with or without explicit instruction to choose the flower bed perceptually closest to the sample. The authors conduct extensive statistical analyses showing that humans are sensitive to most of the derived quantities, even when the instructions encouraged participants to choose only based on perceptual distance. The authors complement their study with a computational neural network model that learns to make judgments about the same stimuli with feedback. They show that the computational model is sensitive to the tasks communicated by feedback and only uses the parsimony-associated metrics when feedback trains it to do so.

      Strengths:

      (1) The paper derives and applies new mathematical quantities associated with parsimony. The mathematical rigor is very impressive and is much more extensive than in most other work in the field, where studies often adopt only one metric (such as the number of causes or parameters). These formal metrics can be very useful for the field.

      (2) The studies are preregistered, and the statistical analyses are strong.

      (3) The computational model complements the behavioral findings, showing that the derived quantities are not simply equivalent to maximum-likelihood inference in the task.

      (4) The speculations in the discussion section (e.g., the idea that human sensitivity is driven by the computational demands each metric requires) are intriguing and could usefully guide future work.

      Weaknesses:

      (1) The paper is very hard to understand. Many of the key details of the derived metrics are in the appendix, with very little accessible explanation in the main text. The figures helped me understand the metrics somewhat, although I am still not sure how some of them (such as boundary or robustness as measured here) are linked to parsimony. I understand that this is addressed by the derivations in the appendix, but as a computational cognitive scientist, I would have benefited from more accessible explanations. Important aspects of the human studies are also missing from the main text, such as the sample size for Experiment 2.

      (2) It is not fully clear whether the sensitivity of human participants to some of the quantities convincingly reported here actually means that participants preferred shapes according to the corresponding aspect of parsimony. The title and framing suggest that parsimony "guides" human decision-making, which may lead readers to conclude that humans prefer more parsimonious shapes. I am not sure the sensitivity findings alone support this framing, but it might just be my misunderstanding of the analyses.

      (3) The stimulus set included only four combinations of shapes, each designed to diagnostically target one of the theoretical quantities. It is unclear whether the results are robust or specific to these particular 4 stimuli.

      (4) The study is framed as measuring "decision-making," but the task resembles statistical inference (e.g., which shape generated the data) or perceptual judgment. This is a minor point since "decision-making" is not well defined in the literature, yet the current framing in the title gave me the initial impression that humans would be making preference choices and learning about them over time with feedback.

    2. Reviewer #2 (Public review):

      This manuscript presents a sophisticated investigation into the computational mechanisms underlying human decision-making, and it presents evidence for a preference for simpler explanations (Occam's razor). The authors dissect the simplicity bias into four different components, and they design experiments to target each of them by presenting choices whose underlying models differ only in one of these components. In the learning tasks, participants must infer a "law" (a logical rule) from observed data in a way that operationalizes the process of scientific reasoning in a controlled laboratory setting. The tasks are complex enough to be engaging but simple enough to allow for precise computational modeling.

      As a further novel feature, authors derive a further term in the expansion of the log-evidence, which arises from boundary terms. This is combined with a choice model, which is the one that is tested in experiments. Experiments are run, but with humans and with artificial intelligence agents, showing that humans have an enhanced preference for simplicity as compared to artificial neural networks.

      Overall, the work is well written, interesting, and timely, bridging concepts in statistical inference and human decision making. Although technical details are rather elaborate, my understanding is that they represent the state of the art.

      I have only one main comment that I think deserves more comments. Computing the complexity penalty of models may be hard. It is unlikely that humans can perform such a calculation on the fly. As authors discuss in the final section, while the dimensionality term may be easier to compute, others (e.g., the volume term, which requires an integral) may be considerably harder to compute (it is true that they should be computed once and for all for each task, but still...). I wonder whether the sensitivity of human decision making with reference to the different terms is so different, and in particular whether it aligns with computational simplicity, or with the possibility of approximating each term by simple heuristics. Indeed, the sensitivity to the volume term is significantly and systematically lower than that of other terms. I wonder whether this relation could be made more quantitative using neural networks, using as a proxy of computational hardness the number of samples needed to reach a given error level in learning each of these terms.

    3. Reviewer #3 (Public review):

      Summary:

      This is a very interesting paper that documents how humans use a variety of factors that penalize model complexity and integrate over a possible set of parameters within each model. By comparison, trained neural networks also use these biases, but only on tasks where model selection was part of the reward structure. In the situation where training emphasizes maximum-likelihood decisions, only neural networks, but not humans, were able to adapt their decision-making. Humans continue to use model integration simplicity biases.

      Strengths:

      This study used a pre-registered plan for analyzing human data, which exceeds the standards compared to other current studies.

      The results are technically correct.

      Weaknesses:

      The presentation of the results could be improved.

    4. Author response:

      Reviewer #1 (Public review)

      I have to preface my evaluation with a disclosure that I lack the mathematical expertise to fully assess what seems to be the authors' main theoretical contribution. I am providing this assessment to the best of my ability, but I cannot substitute for a reviewer with more advanced mathematical/physical training.

      Summary:

      This paper describes a new theoretical framework for measuring parsimony preferences in human judgments. The authors derive four metrics that they associate with parsimony (dimensionality, boundary, volume, and robustness) and measure whether human adults are sensitive to these metrics. In two tasks, adults had to choose one of two flower beds which a statistical sample was generated from, with or without explicit instruction to choose the flower bed perceptually closest to the sample. The authors conduct extensive statistical analyses showing that humans are sensitive to most of the derived quantities, even when the instructions encouraged participants to choose only based on perceptual distance. The authors complement their study with a computational neural network model that learns to make judgments about the same stimuli with feedback. They show that the computational model is sensitive to the tasks communicated by feedback and only uses the parsimony-associated metrics when feedback trains it to do so.

      Strengths:

      (1)  The paper derives and applies new mathematical quantities associated with parsimony. The mathematical rigor is very impressive and is much more extensive than in most other work in the field, where studies often adopt only one metric (such as the number of causes or parameters). These formal metrics can be very useful for the field.

      (2)  The studies are preregistered, and the statistical analyses are strong.

      (3)  The computational model complements the behavioral findings, showing that the derived quantities are not simply equivalent to maximum-likelihood inference in the task.

      (4)  The speculations in the discussion section (e.g., the idea that human sensitivity is driven by the computational demands each metric requires) are intriguing and could usefully guide future work.

      Weaknesses:

      (1) The paper is very hard to understand. Many of the key details of the derived metrics are in the appendix, with very little accessible explanation in the main text. The figures helped me understand the metrics somewhat, although I am still not sure how some of them (such as boundary or robustness as measured here) are linked to parsimony. I understand that this is addressed by the derivations in the appendix, but as a computational cognitive scientist, I would have benefited from more accessible explanations. Important aspects of the human studies are also missing from the main text, such as the sample size for Experiment 2.

      (2) It is not fully clear whether the sensitivity of human participants to some of the quantities convincingly reported here actually means that participants preferred shapes according to the corresponding aspect of parsimony. The title and framing suggest that parsimony "guides" human decision-making, which may lead readers to conclude that humans prefer more parsimonious shapes. I am not sure the sensitivity findings alone support this framing, but it might just be my misunderstanding of the analyses.

      (3) The stimulus set included only four combinations of shapes, each designed to diagnostically target one of the theoretical quantities. It is unclear whether the results are robust or specific to these particular 4 stimuli.

      (4) The study is framed as measuring "decision-making," but the task resembles statistical inference (e.g., which shape generated the data) or perceptual judgment. This is a minor point since "decision-making" is not well defined in the literature, yet the current framing in the title gave me the initial impression that humans would be making preference choices and learning about them over time with feedback.

      We are grateful for the supportive comments highlighting the rigor of our experimental design and data analysis. The Reviewer lists four points under “weaknesses”, to which we reply below. 

      (1)  The paper is very hard to understand

      In the revised version of the paper, we will expand the main text to include a more detailed and intuitive description of the terms of the Fisher Information Approximation, in particular clarifying the interpretation of robustness and boundary as parsimony. We also will include more details that are now given only in Methods, such as the sample size for the second experiment. 

      (2) Sensitivity of human participants 

      We do argue, and believe, that our data show that people tend to prefer simpler shapes. However, giving a well-posed definition of "preference" in this context turns out to be nontrivial.

      At the very least, any statement such as "people prefer shape A over B" should be qualified with something like “when the distance of the data from both shapes is the same.” In other words, one should control for goodness-of-fit. Even before making any reference to our behavioral model, this phenomenon (a preference for the simpler model when goodness of fit is matched between models) is visible in Figure 3a, where the effective decision boundary used by human participants is closer to the more complex model than the cyan line representing the locus of points with equal goodness of fit under the two models (or equivalently, with the same Euclidean distance from the two shapes). The goal of our theory and our behavioral model is precisely to systematize this sort of control, extending it beyond just goodness-of-fit and allowing us to control simultaneously for multiple features of model complexity that may affect human behavior in different ways. In other words, it allows us not only to ask whether people prefer shape A over B after controlling for the distance of the data to the shapes, but also to understand to what extent this preference is driven by important geometrical features such as dimensionality, volume, curvature, and boundaries of the shapes. More specifically, and importantly, our theory makes it possible to measure the strength of the preference, rather than merely asserting its existence. In our modeling framework, the existence of a preference for simpler shapes is captured by the fact that the estimated sensitivities to the complexity penalties are positive (and although they differ in magnitude, all are statistically reliable).

      (3) Generalization to different shapes  

      Thank you for bringing up this important topic. First, note that while dimensionality and volume are global properties of models and only take two possible values in our human tasks, the boundary and robustness penalties depend on the model and on the data and therefore assume a continuum of values through the tasks (note also that the boundary penalty is relevant for all task types, not just the one designed specifically to study it, because all models except the zero-dimensional dot have boundaries). Therefore, our experimental setting is less restrictive of what it may seem, because it explores a range of possible values for two of the four model features. However, we agree that it would be interesting to repeat our experiment with a broader range of models, perhaps allowing their dimensionality and volume to vary more. In the same spirit, it would be interesting to study the dependence of human behavior on the amount of available data. We believe that these are all excellent ideas for further study that exceed the scope of the present paper. We will include these important points in a revised Discussion. 

      (4) Usage of “decision making” vs “perceptual judgment”

      Thank you. We will clarify better in the text that our usage of “decision making” overlaps with the idea of a perceptual judgment and that our experiments do not tackle sequential aspects of repeated decisions. 

      Reviewer #2 (Public review):

      This manuscript presents a sophisticated investigation into the computational mechanisms underlying human decision-making, and it presents evidence for a preference for simpler explanations (Occam's razor). The authors dissect the simplicity bias into four different components, and they design experiments to target each of them by presenting choices whose underlying models differ only in one of these components. In the learning tasks, participants must infer a "law" (a logical rule) from observed data in a way that operationalizes the process of scientific reasoning in a controlled laboratory setting. The tasks are complex enough to be engaging but simple enough to allow for precise computational modeling.

      As a further novel feature, authors derive a further term in the expansion of the logevidence, which arises from boundary terms. This is combined with a choice model, which is the one that is tested in experiments. Experiments are run, but with humans and with artificial intelligence agents, showing that humans have an enhanced preference for simplicity as compared to artificial neural networks.

      Overall, the work is well written, interesting, and timely, bridging concepts in statistical inference and human decision making. Although technical details are rather elaborate, my understanding is that they represent the state of the art.

      I have only one main comment that I think deserves more comments. Computing the complexity penalty of models may be hard. It is unlikely that humans can perform such a calculation on the fly. As authors discuss in the final section, while the dimensionality term may be easier to compute, others (e.g., the volume term, which requires an integral) may be considerably harder to compute (it is true that they should be computed once and for all for each task, but still...). I wonder whether the sensitivity of human decision making with reference to the different terms is so different, and in particular whether it aligns with computational simplicity, or with the possibility of approximating each term by simple heuristics. Indeed, the sensitivity to the volume term is significantly and systematically lower than that of other terms. I wonder whether this relation could be made more quantitative using neural networks, using as a proxy of computational hardness the number of samples needed to reach a given error level in learning each of these terms.

      Thank you. The computational complexity associated with calculating the different terms and its potential connection to human sensitivity to the terms is an intriguing topic. As we hinted at in the discussion, we agree with the reviewer that this is a natural candidate for further research, which likely deserves its own study and exceeds the scope of the present paper. 

      As a minor aside, at least for the present task the volume term may not be that hard to compute, because it can be expressed with the number of distinguishable probability distributions in the model (Balasubramanian 1996). Given the nature of our task, where noise is Gaussian, isotropic and with known variance, the geometry of the model is actually the Euclidean geometry of the plane, and the volume is simply the (log of the) length of the line that represents the one-dimensional models, measured in units of the standard deviation of the noise.

      Reviewer #3 (Public review):

      Summary:

      This is a very interesting paper that documents how humans use a variety of factors that penalize model complexity and integrate over a possible set of parameters within each model. By comparison, trained neural networks also use these biases, but only on tasks where model selection was part of the reward structure. In the situation where training emphasizes maximum-likelihood decisions, only neural networks, but not humans, were able to adapt their decision-making. Humans continue to use model integration simplicity biases.

      Strengths:

      This study used a pre-registered plan for analyzing human data, which exceeds the standards compared to other current studies.

      The results are technically correct.

      Weaknesses:

      The presentation of the results could be improved.

      We thank the reviewer for their appreciation of our experimental design and methodology, and for pointing out (in the separate "recommendations to authors") a few passages of the paper where the presentation could be improved. We will clarify these passages in the revision.

    1. Reviewer #1 (Public review):

      Summary:

      The study by Klotzsche et al. examines whether emotional facial expressions can be decoded from EEG while participants view 3D faces in immersive VR and whether stereoscopic depth cues affect these neural representations. Participants viewed computer-generated faces (three identities, four emotions) rendered either stereoscopically or monoscopically, while performing an emotion recognition task. Time-resolved multivariate decoding revealed above-chance decodability of facial expressions from EEG. Importantly, decoding accuracy did not differ between monoscopic and stereoscopic viewing. This indicates that the neural representation of expressions is robust against stereoscopic disparity for the relevant features. However, a separate classifier could distinguish the depth condition (mono vs. stereo) from EEG, i.e., the pattern of neuronal activity differs between conditions, but not in ways relevant for the decoding of emotions. It had an early peak and a temporal profile similar to identity decoding, suggesting that early, task-irrelevant visual differences are captured neurally. Cross-decoding further demonstrated that expression decoders trained in one depth condition could generalize to the other, supporting the idea of representational invariance. Eye-tracking analyses showed that expressions and identities could be decoded from gaze patterns, but not the depth condition, and EEG- and gaze-based decoding performances were not correlated across participants. Overall, this work shows that EEG decoding in VR is feasible and sensitive, and suggests that stereoscopic cues are represented in the brain but do not influence the neural processing of facial expressions. This study addresses a relevant question with state-of-the-art experimental and data analysis techniques.

      Strengths:

      (1) It combines EEG, virtual reality stereoscoptic and monoscopic presentation of visual stimuli, and advanced data analysis methods to address a timely question.

      (2) The figures are of very high quality.

      (3) The reference list is appropriate and up to date.

      Weaknesses:

      (1) The introduction-results-discussion-methods order makes it hard to follow the Results without repeatedly consulting the Methods. Please introduce minimal, critical methodological context at the start of each Results subsection; reserve technical details for Methods/Supplement.

      (2) Many Results subsections begin with a crisp question and present rich analyses, but end without a short synthesis. Please add 1-2 sentences that explicitly answer the opening question and state what the analyses demonstrate.

      (3) The Results compellingly show that (a) expressions are decodable from EEG and (b) mono vs stereo trials are decodable from EEG; yet expression decoding is comparable across mono and stereo. It would help if you articulate why depth is neurally distinguishable while leaving expression representations unchanged. Maybe improve the discussion of the results of source localization and give a more detailed connection to what we already know about the processing of disparity.

    2. Reviewer #2 (Public review):

      Summary:

      The authors' main aim was to determine the extent to which the emotional expression of face images could be inferred from electrophysiological data under the viewing conditions imposed by immersive virtual reality displays. Further, given that stereoscopic depth cues can be easily manipulated in such displays, the authors wished to investigate whether successful emotion decoding was affected by the presence or absence of these depth cues, and also if the presence/absence of depth cues was itself a property of the viewing experience that could be decoded from neural data.

      Overall, the authors use fairly standard approaches to decoding neural data to demonstrate that above-chance results (slightly above the 0.5 chance threshold for their measure of choice) are in general achievable for emotion decoding, decoding the identity of faces from neural data, and decoding the presence/absence of depth cues in an immersive virtual reality display. They further examine the contribution of specific components of the response to visual stimuli with similar outcomes.

      Strengths:

      The main contribution of the manuscript is methodological. Rather than shedding particular light on the neural mechanisms supporting depth processing or face perception, what is on offer is primarily a straightforward examination of an applied question. With regard to the goal of answering that applied question, I think the paper succeeds. The overall experimental design is not novel, but in this case, that is a good thing. The authors have used relatively unadorned tasks and previous approaches to applying decoding tools to EEG data to see what they can get out of the neural data collected under these viewing conditions. While I would say that there is not a great deal that is especially surprising about these results, the authors do meet the goal they set for themselves.

      Weaknesses:

      Some of the key weaknesses I see are points that the authors raise themselves in their discussion, particularly with regard to the generalizability of their results. In particular, the 3D faces they have employed here perhaps exhibit a somewhat limited repertoire of emotional expression and do not necessarily cover a representative gamut of emotional face appearances, such as one would encounter in naturalistic settings. Then again, part of the goal of the paper was to examine the decodability of emotional expression in a specific, non-natural viewing environment - a viewing environment in which one could reasonably expect to encounter artificial faces like these. Still, the limitations of the stimuli potentially limit the scope of the conclusions one should draw from the data. I also think that there is a great deal of room for low-level image properties to drive the decoding results for faces, which could have been addressed in a number of ways (matching power spectra, for example, or using an inverted-image control condition). The absence of such control comparisons means that it is difficult to know if this is really a result that reflects face processing or much lower-level image differences that are diagnostic of emotion or identity in this subset of images. Again, to some extent, this is potentially acceptable - if one is mostly interested in whether this result is achievable at all (by hook or by crook), then it is not so important how the goal is met. Then again, one would perhaps like to know if what has been measured here is more a reflection of spatial vision vs. face processing mechanisms.

    1. Reviewer #1 (Public review):

      Summary:

      In the present manuscript, de Bos and Kutay investigate the functional implications of persistent microtubule-ER contacts as cells go through mitosis. To do so, they resorted to investigating phosphorylation mutants of the ER-Microtubule crosslinker Climp63. They found that phosphodeficient Climp63 mutants induce a severe SAC-dependent mitotic delay after normal chromosome alignment, with an impressive mitotic index of approximately 75%. Strikingly, this was often associated with massive nuclear fragmentation into up to 30 micronuclei that are able to recruit both core and non-core nuclear envelope components. One particular residue (S17) that is phosphorylated by Cdk1 seems to account for most, if not all, these phenotypes. Furthermore, the authors use the impact on mitosis as an indirect way to map the microtubule binding domain of Climp63, which has remained controversial, and found that it is mostly restricted to the N-terminal 28 residues of Climp63. Of note, despite the strong impact on mitosis, persistent microtubule-ER contacts did not affect the distribution of other organelles during mitosis, such as mitochondria or lysosomes.

      Strengths:

      Overall, this work provides important mechanistic insight into the functional implications of ER-microtubule network remodelling during mitosis and should be of great interest to a vast readership of cell biologists.

      Weaknesses:

      Some of the key findings appear somewhat preliminary and would be worth exploring further to substantiate some of the claims and clarify the respective impact on mitosis and nuclear envelope reassembly on the resulting micronuclei.

      The following suggestions would significantly clarify some key points:

      (1) The striking increase in mitotic index in cells expressing the Climp63 phosphodefective mutant, together with their live cell imaging data indicating extensive mitotic delays that can be relieved by SAC inhibition, suggests that SAC silencing is significantly delayed or even impossible to achieve. The fact that most chromosomes align in 12 min, irrespective of the expression of the Climp63 phosphodefective mutant, suggests that initial microtubule-kinetochore interactions are not compromised, but maybe cannot be stably maintained. Alternatively, the stripping of SAC proteins from kinetochores by dynein along attached microtubules might be compromised, despite normal microtubule-kinetochore attachments. The authors allude to both these possibilities, but unfortunately, they never really test them. This could easily be done by immunofluorescence with a Mad1 or c-Mad2 antibody to inspect which fraction of kinetochores (co-stained with a constitutive kinetochore marker, such as CENP-A or CENP-C) are positive for these SAC proteins. If just a small fraction, then the stability of some attachments is likely the cause. If most/all kinetochores retain Mad1/c-Mad2, then it is probably an issue of silencing the SAC.

      (2) The authors use the increase in mitotic index (H3 S10 phosphorylation levels) as a readout for the MT binding efficiency of Climp63 and respective mutants. Although suggestive, this is fairly indirect and requires additional confirmation. For example, the authors could perform basic immunofluorescence in fixed cells to inspect co-localization of Climp63 (and its mutants) with microtubules.

      (3) The authors refer in the discussion that the striking nuclear fragmentation seen upon mitotic exit of cells expressing Climp63 phosphodefective mutant has not been reported before, and yet it is strikingly similar to what has been previously observed in cells treated with taxol (they cite Samwer et al. 2017, but they might elect to cite also Mitchison et al., Open Biol, 2017 and most relevantly Jordan et al., Cancer Res, 1996). This striking similarity and given the extensive mitotic delay observed in the Climp63 phosphodefective mutant, it is tempting to speculate that these cells are undergoing mitotic slippage (i.e., cells exit mitosis without ever satisfying the SAC) because they are unable to silence/satisfy the SAC. Indeed, the scattered micronuclei morphology has also been observed in cells undergoing mitotic slippage (e.g., Brito and Rieder, Curr Biol., 2006). The experiment suggested in point #1 should also shed light on this problem. The authors might want to consider discussing this possible explanation to interpret the observed phenotypes.

      (4) One of the most significant implications of the findings reported in this paper is that microtubule proximity does not seem to impact the assembly of either core or non-core nuclear envelope proteins on micronuclei (that possibly form due to mitotic slippage, rather than normal anaphase). These results challenge some models explaining nuclear envelope defects in micronuclei derived from lagging chromosomes due to the proximity of microtubules, and, as the authors point out at the very end, other reasons might underlie these defects. Along this line, the authors might elect to cite Afonso et al. Science, 2014, and Orr et al., Cell Reports, 2022, who provide evidence that a spindle midzone-based Aurora B gradient, rather than microtubules per se, underlie the nuclear envelope defects commonly seen in micronuclei derived from lagging chromosomes during anaphase.

    1. Reviewer #1 (Public review):

      Summary:

      The goal of this paper was to determine whether the T cell receptor (TCR) repertoire differs between a male and a female human. To address this, this group sequenced TCRs from double-positive and single-positive thymocytes in male and female humans of various ages. Such an analysis on sorted thymocyte subsets has not been performed in the past. The only comparable dataset is a pediatric thymocyte dataset where total thymocytes were sorted.

      They report on participant ages and sexes, but not on ethnicity, race, nor provide information about HLA typing of individuals. Though the experiments themselves are heroic, they do represent a relatively small sampling of diverse humans. They observed no differences in TCRbeta or TCRalpha usage, combinational diversity, or differences in the length of the CDR3 region, or amino acid usage in the CD3aa region between males or females. Though they observed some TCRbeta CD3aa sequence motifs that differed between males and females, these findings could not be replicated using an external dataset and therefore were not generalizable to the human population.

      They also compared TCRbeta sequences against those identified in the past using computational approaches to recognize cancer-, bacterial-, viral-, or autoimmune-antigens. They found very little overlap of their sequences with these annotated sequences (depending on the individual, ranging from 0.82-3.58% of sequences). Within the sequences that were in overlap, they found that certain sequences against autoimmune or bacterial antigens were significantly over-represented in female versus male CD8 SP cells. Since no other comparable dataset is available, they could not conclude whether this is a finding that is generalizable to the human population.

      Strengths:

      This is a novel dataset. Overall, the methodologies appear to be sound. There was an attempt to replicate their findings in cases where an appropriate dataset was available. I agree that there are no gross differences in TCR diversity between males and females.

      Weaknesses:

      Overall, the sample size is small given that it is an outbred population. The cleaner experiment would have been to study the impact of sex in a number of inbred MHC I/II identical mouse strains or in humans with HLA-identical backgrounds.

      It is unclear whether there was consensus between the three databases they used regarding the antigens recognized by the TCR sequences. Given the very low overlap between the TCR sequences identified in these databases and their dataset, and the lack of replication, they should tone down their excitement about the CD8 T cell sequences recognizing autoimmune and bacterial antigens being over-represented in females.

      The dataset could be valuable to the community.

    1. Reviewer #1 (Public review):

      Summary:

      This is a careful, well-powered treatment of age effects in resting-state MEG. Rather than extracting (say) complex connectivity measures, the authors look at the 'simplest possible thing': changes in the overall power spectrum across age.

      Strengths:

      They find significant age-related changes at different frequency bands: broadly, attenuation at low-frequency (alpha) and increased beta. These patterns are identified in a large dataset (CamCAN) and then verified in other public data.

      Weaknesses:

      Some secondary interpretations (what is "unique" to age vs global anatomy) may go beyond what the statistics strictly warrant in the current form, but these can be tightened with (I think, fairly quick) additions already foreshadowed by the authors' own analyses.

      Aims:

      The authors set out to replace piecemeal, band-by-band ageing claims with t-maps, and Cohen's f2 over sensors×frequency ("GLM-Spectrum").

      On CamCAN, six spatio-spectral peaks survive relatively strict statistical controls. The larger effects are in low-frequency and upper-alpha/beta ranges (f2 approx 0.2-0.3), while lower-alpha and gamma reach significance but with small practical impact (f2 < 0.075). A nice finding is that the same qualitative profile appears in three additional independent datasets.

      Two analyses are especially interesting. First, the authors show a difference between absolute and relative spectral magnitude (basically, within-subject normalization). Relative scaling sharpens the spectral specificity of the spatial maps, while absolute magnitude is dominated by a broad spatial mode that correlates positively across frequencies, likely reflecting head-position/field-spread factors. The replication of the main age profile is robust to preprocessing decisions (e.g., SSS movement compensation choices) - the bigger determinant of the effect is whether they apply sensor normalization (relative vs absolute).

      Second, lots of brain-related things might be related to age, and the authors spend some time trying to back out confounds/covariates. This section is handled transparently (in general, I found the writing style very clear throughout) - they examine single covariates (sex, BP, GGMV, etc.) and compare simple vs partial age effects. For example, aging is correlated with reductions in global grey-matter volume (GGMV), but it would be nice to find a measure that is independent of this: controlling for GGMV (via a linear model) reduces age-related effect sizes heterogeneously across space/frequency but does not eliminate them, a nuance the authors treat carefully.

      This is a nice paper, and I have only a few concrete suggestions:

      (1) High-gamma:

      There can be a lot of EMG / eye movement contamination (I know these were RS eyes closed data, but still..) above 30-40 Hz, and these effects are the weakest anyway. Could you add an analysis (e.g., ICA/label-based muscle component removal) and show the gamma band's sensitivity to that step? Or just note this point more clearly?

      (2) GGMV confound control:

      Controlling for GGMV reduces, but does not eliminate, age effects. I have a few questions about this: a) Could we see the residuals as a function of age? I wonder if there are non-linear effects or something else that the regression is not accounting for. Also, b) GGMV and age are highly colinear - is this an issue? Can regression really split them apart robustly? I think by some cunning orthogonalisation, you can compute the effect of age independent of GGVM. I don't think this is the same as the effect 'adjusted' for GGMV (which is what is shown here if I'm reading it correctly). Finally, of course, GGMV might actually be the thing you want to look at (because it might more accurately reflect clinical issues) - so strong correlations are not really a problem: I think really the focus might even be on using MEG to predict GGMV and controlling for age.

    2. Reviewer #2 (Public review):

      This paper describes the application of the "GLM-Spectrum" mass univariate approach to examine the effects of age on M/EEG power spectra. Its strengths include promotion of the unbiased approach, suitable for future meta/mega-analyses, and the provision of effect sizes for powering future studies. These are useful contributions to the literature. What is perhaps lacking is a discussion of the limitations of this approach, in comparison to other methods.

      An analogy is the mass univariate approach to spatial localisation of effects in fMRI/PET images. This approach is unbiased by prior assumptions about the organisation of the brain, but potentially also less sensitive, by ignoring that prior knowledge. For example, a voxelwise univariate approach is less sensitive to detecting effects in functionally homogeneous brain regions, where SNR can be increased by averaging over voxels. In the context of power spectra, the authors' approach deliberately ignores knowledge about the dominant frequency bands/oscillations in human power spectra. This is in contrast to approaches like FOOOF and IRASA, which explicitly parametrise frequency components. I am not saying these methods are better; I just think that the authors should acknowledge that these approaches have advantages over their mass univariate approach (in sensitivity and interpretation; see below). I guess it is a type of bias-sensitivity trade-off: the authors want to avoid bias, but they should acknowledge the corresponding loss of sensitivity, as well as loss of interpretation compared to model-based approaches (i.e, models that parameterise frequency; I don't mean the statistical models for each frequency separately).

      An example of the interpretational loss can be seen in the authors' observation of opposite-signed effects of age around the alpha peak. While the authors acknowledge that this pattern can arise from a reduction in alpha frequency with age, this is an indirect inference, and a direct (and likely much more sensitive) approach would be to parametrise and estimate the peak alpha frequency directly for each participant, as done with FOOOF for example (possibly with group priors, as in Medrano et al, 2025, EJN). The authors emphasise the nonlinear effects of age in Figure 2A, but their approach cannot test this directly (e.g., in terms of plotting effects of age on frequency, magnitude, and width for each participant), so for me, this figure illustrates a weakness of their approach, not a strength.

      Then I think the section "Two dissociable and opposite effects in the alpha range" in the Discussion section is confusing, because if there is a single reduction in alpha peak frequency and magnitude with age, then there is only one "effect", not "two dissociable" ones. If the authors do want to claim that there are two dissociable age effects within the alpha range, then they need to do a statistical test, e.g., that the topographies of low and high alpha are significantly different. This then reveals another limitation of the mass univariate approach - that space (channel) is not parametrised either - so one cannot test for significant channel x effect interactions within this framework, as necessary to really claim a dissociation (e.g., in underlying neural generators).

      While the authors show that normalisation of each person's power spectra by the sum across frequencies helps improve some statistics, they might want to say more about disadvantages of this approach, e.g., loss of sensitivity to any effects (eg of age) that are broadly distributed across majority of frequencies, loss of real SI units (absolute effect sizes) (as well as problems if normalisation were used for techniques like FOOOF, where the 1/f exponent would be affected).

      The authors should give more information on how artifactual ICs were defined. This may be important for cardiac artefacts, since Schmidt et al (2004, eLife) have pointed out how "standard" ICA thresholds can fail to remove all cardiac effects. This is very important for the effects of age, given that age affects cardiac dynamics (even though the focus of Schmidt et al is the 1/f exponent, could residual cardiac effects cause artifactual age effects in current results, even above ~1Hz?).

      The authors should clarify the precise maxfilter arguments, and explain what "reference" was used for the "trans" option - e.g., did the authors consider transforming the data to match a sphere at the centre of the helmet, which might not only remove some of the global power differences due to different head positions, but also be best for generalisation of the effect sizes they report to future studies (assuming the centre of the helmet is the most likely location on average)? And on that matter, did head positions actually differ by age at all?

    1. eLife Assessment

      This study explores how exogenous attention operates at the finest spatial scale of vision, within the foveola - a topic that has not been previously explored. The question is important for understanding how attention shapes perception, and how it differs between the periphery and the central regions of highest visual acuity. The evidence is compelling, as shown by carefully designed experiments with state-of-the-art eye tracking to monitor attended locations just a few tens of minutes of arc away from the fixation target, but additional clarification regarding analyses and implications for vision and oculomotor control would broaden the impact of the study.

    2. Reviewer #1 (Public review):

      Summary:

      The manuscript investigates how exogenous attention modulates spatial frequency sensitivity within the foveola. Using high-precision eye-tracking and gaze-contingent stimulus control, the authors show that exogenous attention selectively improves contrast sensitivity for low- to mid-range spatial frequencies (4-8 cycles/degree), but not for higher frequencies (12-20 CPD). In contrast, improvements in asymptotic performance at the highest contrast levels occur across all spatial frequencies. These results suggest that, even within the foveola, exogenous attention operates through a mechanism similar to that observed in peripheral vision, preferentially enhancing lower spatial frequencies.

      Strengths:

      The study shows strong methodological rigor. Eye position was carefully controlled, and the stimulus generation and calibration were highly precise. The authors also situate their work well within the existing literature, providing a clear rationale for examining the fine-grained effects of exogenous attention within the foveola. The combination of high spatial precision, gaze-contingent presentation, and detailed modeling makes this a valuable technical contribution.

      Weaknesses:

      The manipulation of attention raises some interpretive concerns. Clarifying this issue, together with additional detail about statistics, participant profiles, other methodological elements, and further discussion in relation to oculomotor control in general, could broaden the impact of the findings.

    3. Reviewer #2 (Public review):

      Summary:

      This study aims to test whether foveal and non-foveal vision share the same mechanisms for endogenous attention. Specifically, they aim to test whether they can replicate at the foveola previous results regarding the effects of exogenous attention for different spatial frequencies.

      Strengths:

      Monitoring the exact place where the gaze is located at this scale requires very precise eye-tracking methods and accurate and stable calibration. This study uses state-of-the-art methods to achieve this goal. The study builds on many other studies that show similarities between foveal vision and non-foveal vision, adding more data supporting this parallel.

      Weaknesses:

      The study lacks a discussion of the strength of the effect and how it relates to previous studies done away from the fovea. It would be valuable to know if not just the range of frequencies, but the size of the effect is also comparable.

    4. Reviewer #3 (Public review):

      Summary:

      This paper explores how spatial attention affects foveal information processing across different spatial frequencies. The results indicate that exogenously directed attention enhances contrast sensitivity for low- to mid-range spatial frequencies (4-8 CPD), with no significant benefits for higher spatial frequencies (12-20 CPD). However, asymptotic performance increased as a result of spatial attention independently of spatial frequency.

      Strengths:

      The strengths of this article lie in its methodological approach, which combines a psychophysical experiment with precise control over the information presented in the foveola.

      Weaknesses:

      The authors acknowledge that they used the standard approach of analyzing observer-averaged data, but recognize that this method has limitations: it ignores the uncertainty associated with parameter estimates and the relationships between different parameters of the psychometric model. This may affect the interpretation of attentional effects. In the future, mixed-effects models at the trial level could overcome these limitations.

    1. Reviewer #2 (Public review):

      Wu and Turrigiano investigated how cortical taste coding during conditioned taste aversion (CTA) learning is affected in Shank3 knockout (KO) mice, a model of monogenic ASD. Using longitudinal two-photon calcium imaging of AIC neurons, the authors show that Shank3 KO mice exhibit reduced suppression of activity in a subset of neurons and a higher correlated variability in neural activity. This is accompanied by slower learning and faster extinction of aversive taste memories. These results suggest that Shank3 loss compromises the flexibility and stability of cortical representations underlying adaptive behaviour.

      Major strengths:

      (1) Conceptual significance: The study connects a molecular ASD risk gene (Shank3) to flexible sensory encoding, bridging genetics, systems neuroscience, and behaviour.

      (2) Technical rigour: Longitudinal calcium imaging with cell-registration across learning and extinction sessions is technically demanding and well-executed.

      (3) Behavioural paradigm: The use of both acquisition and extinction paradigms provides a more nuanced picture of learning dynamics.

      (4) Analyses: Correlated variability, discriminability indices, and population decoding analyses are robust and appropriate for addressing behavioural and network-level coding changes.

      Major weaknesses:

      (1) Causality: The paper infers that increased correlated variability causes learning deficits, but no causal tests (e.g., optogenetic modulation of inhibition or interneuron rescue) are presented to confirm this.

      (2) Behavioural scope: The study focuses exclusively on taste aversion; generalisation to other flexible learning paradigms (e.g., reversal or probabilistic tasks) is not addressed.

      (3) Mechanistic insights: While providing interesting findings of altered sensory perception and extinction of learning-related signals in AIC, it offered nearly no mechanistic insights. This makes the interpretation, especially on how generalisable these findings are, difficult. Also, different reported findings are "potentially" connected, but the exact relation between increased correlated variability and faster loss of taste selectivity cannot be assessed.

    2. Reviewer #3 (Public review):

      In this study, Wu & Turrigiano investigate an ethologically relevant form of associative learning (conditioned taste aversion - CTA) and its extinction in the Shank3 KO mouse model of ASD. They also examine the underlying circuits in the anterior insular cortex (AIC) simultaneously, using two-photon calcium imaging through a GRIN lens. They report that Shank3 KO mice learn CTA slower and suggest that this is mediated by a reduction in tastant-stimulus activity suppression of AIC neurons and a reduced signal-to-noise ratio due to increased noise correlations in AIC neurons. Interestingly, once Shank3 KO mice acquire CTA, they extinguish the aversive memory more rapidly than wild-type mice. This accelerated extinction is accompanied by a faster loss of neuronal and population-level taste selectivity and coding in the AIC compared to WT mice.

      This is an important study that uses in vivo methods to assess circuit dysfunction in a mouse model of ASD, related to sensory perception valence (in this case, taste). The study is well executed, the data are of high quality, and the analytical procedures are detailed. Furthermore, the behavioural paradigm is well thought out, particularly the approach for assessing extinction through repeated retrieval sessions (T1-T5), which effectively tests discrimination between saccharin and water rather than relying solely on lick counts or total consumption as a measure of extinction. Finally, the statistical tests used are appropriate and justified.

      There is, however, a missing link between the behavioural findings and the underlying mechanisms. More specifically:

      (1) The authors don't make a causal link between the behaviour and AIC neurophysiology, both the percentage of suppressed cells and the coactivity measurements. For the % of suppressed cells, it seems that both WT and KO cells are suppressed in the transition between CST1 and CST2 (Figure 1L), yet only the WT mice exhibit CTA (at least by CST2). For the taste-elicited coactivity measure, it seems that there is an increase in coactivity from CST1 to CST2 in WT (Figure 2C - blue, although not statistically tested?), but persistently higher coactivity in KO. Is this change of coactivity in WT important for the expression of CTA? Plotting behavioral performance (from Figure 1G) against coactivity (from Figure 2C) for each animal would be informative.

      (2) Shank3 KO cells already show an increase in baseline coactivity (Figure 2- figure supplement 1), and the authors never examine CS-only responses in the KO group, therefore making it difficult to determine whether elevated coactivity and noise correlations reflect a generalized AIC abnormality in Shank3 KOs (perhaps through impaired PV-mediated inhibition in insular cortex - Gogolla et al, 2014) that is not directly responsible/related to CTA?

      (3) How do the authors interpret the large range of lick ratios (Figure 1G) for WT (almost bi-modal distribution)? Is there a within-subject correlation with any of the neurophysiological measurements to suggest a relationship between AIC neurophysiology and behavioural expression of CTA?

      (4) Indeed, CTA appears to be successfully achieved for Shank3 KO mice delayed by 1 day, as the level of saccharin aversion during the first retrieval session (T1) is comparable between Shank3 KO and WTs. In this context, not extending the first part of the paradigm to include CST3 seems to be a missed opportunity. Doing so would have allowed for within-cell and within-subject comparison of taste-elicited pairwise correlation across the learning and to investigate the neural mechanism of delayed extinction in KOs more effectively.

      (5) How to interpret Figure 5F: Absolute discriminability is lower for T5 for CTA WT and CTA KO compared to CS-only? Why would AIC neurons have less information on taste identity by the end of extinction than during the unconditioned (CS-only) condition? And if that is the case, how is decoding accuracy in Figure 6C higher in T5 for CTA WT vs CS-only?

    1. Het bedrijf ontwikkelt al een AI-naar-FPGA-platform waarmee elk AI-model kan draaien op goedkope, in de EU geproduceerde herconfigureerbare chips. Als ze hierin slagen, zou dit de afhankelijkheid van Europa van buitenlandse GPU-fabrieken volledig kunnen wegnemen, een terugkerend thema in de strategie van Vydar.

      A potential path away from NVIDIA it seems, but not at the moment, the text suggests.

    2. We maken geen eigen AI-chips”, merkte Crijnen op, “maar omdat de hardware speciaal voor dit doel is gebouwd, kunnen we toekomstige in Europa gemaakte chips gemakkelijk integreren. Die flexibiliteit is cruciaal.”

      This suggests they do use NVIDIA Jetson now, but don't need to if alternatives are available?

    1. But admitting that we don’t understand how the world works, and then trying to understand some slice of it, can only be terrifying. It’s far easier to inconclusively accept the world model of others. It’s even more comforting to then conclusively justify the truth-validity by the volume of people who share that world model. To attempt to stand outside of viral ideas – mimetic beliefs – and to take an assumption-free approach at understanding the world is one of the hardest challenges faced by individuals today.

      NB

    1. e speaker."31 Ifocus too much attention on writing for an audience-whether conceived"target receiver," a "needy reader," or a "constructive participant"-wenarrow our view of composing, forgetting that writing is also an explorof ideas, a quest for purpose, and a projection

      Audience is important but not ALL important in writing. Audience afftects writing but shouldn't control it.

    1. For SETI to be conducted and eventually succeed, humans must at least consider the possibility thatlife exists beyond Earth. Starting and maintaining the search, they must act as if the conditions of pos-sibility for life and the emergence of technosignatures are actually given. SETI cannot be conductedfrom a pure agnostic and passive position. It requires active scientific exploration and empirical obser-vation and, as such, must presuppose the possible existence of external events that can effect the obser-vational setup and their reliable attribution to causing conditions (Radder, 2021). One might beconsciously aware that this is a purely logical requirement and that our beliefs can change. Yet, presup-posing that there is no life beyond Earth, renders conducting SETI senseless. Deliberately assigning arandom probability to the possibility of extraterrestrials may express uncertainty, but effectively con-ducting SETI requires accepting that among the myriads of signals, we are able to detect some mayand can indeed be traced back to the activity of extraterrestrials. This, of course, does neither tell uswhere they are, how many there are, nor what their activity will exactly look like.
    1. Mindless "test prep" by English teachers isthus an ironic error. If we really understood test-ing- its Purpose and Audience- we would notmake this mistake and kill off good writing in theprocess.

      Writing should not be "mindless" it should be focused but persuasive and unique.

    2. But English teachers often have too narrow asense of what constitutes a realistic challenge forcausing a genuine effect in developing writingprompts and scoring rubrics

      Writing for education and writing for the real world are different.

    1. So what do they want to hear about? These are seniors in high schoolwho I think want to become English majors ... probably not . . but theywant to hear about what English teach

      Even when writing a narrative Toby F. Starts with considering his audience and what they would want to hear.

    1. Think carefully before you post. Anything you share online can stay there a long time, even after you delete it.

      This section provides practical ways to reduce targeted advertising and protect personal data online. I personally use a combination of clearing cookies regularly and a privacy focused browser extension like Privacy Badger, which seems to block most trackers without slowing down browsing. I’m curious if anyone has experience using Tor for everyday browsing, does it significantly impact speed or usability? Also, opting out of personalized ads on Google seems simple, but I wonder how effective it really is in reducing tracking across multiple websites.

    1. These calculations confirm what was previously discussed regarding the solar radiation spectrum (Figure 2.1.12), but now we can compare this to terrestrial radiation. Most energy lost from the Earth-atmosphere system back to space is terrestrial radiation, primarily in the infrared region. A plot of the intensity of radiation emitted by a body against wavelength (or frequency) is known as the emission spectrum of that body. Figure 2.1.12 shows the emission spectrum of the Sun, and Figure 2.1.13 shows a simplified version of this plot together with the emission spectrum of the Earth. Note that the radiative flux, which is the rate of energy passing through a unit area in W m super negative two , arriving from the Sun is more than a million (10 super six ) times that leaving from the Earth and is scaled accordingly to be able to show both curves on the same plot. These plots depict what are known as the black-body emission spectra for bodies at these temperatures. Because terrestrial radiation has its maximum flux at a wavelength (10  mu m) about 20 times longer than solar radiation (0.5  mu m), it is often referred to as long-wave radiation, and solar radiation as short-wave radiation.

      Most energy lost from earth is infrared radaiation

      A plot of the intensity of radiation emitted by a body is the emission spectrum of the body

      Because terrestrail radiation is 20x larger than solar its known as long wave and solar as short

    2. It is no coincidence that plants use the visible part of the spectrum for photosynthesis. As shown in Figure 2.1.12, this region is where the most energy is coming from the Sun. This is both energy arriving at the Earth’s surface and that arriving at the top of the atmosphere. There is a difference in the quantity and spectral distribution of the radiation arriving at the Earth’s surface compared to the top of the atmosphere due to the absorption of some wavelengths by gases in the atmosphere. We will return to this in the next study session. But first we need to consider some laws of radiation, and their relationship with temperature, that underlie what we have discussed so far. This will be important for understanding subsequent study sessions.

      plants get most of their energy from visible light because the majority of those wavelengths reach the surface

    3. The Sun emits radiation across most of the electromagnetic spectrum, but in varying amounts across different regions. Over 95% of solar radiation is in the wavelengths between 100 and 2500 nm ( one multiplication 10 super negative seven and 2.5 multiplication 10 super negative six m ). Figure 2.1.12 shows the solar irradiance spectrum for solar radiation arriving both at the top of the atmosphere (ToA) and at the Earth’s surface.

      the sun emits radiation across the whole spectrum but 95% is between 100-2500 nm

    4. Wavelengths in Figure 2.1.11 are labelled using the base SI unit of metres, which is convenient at the radio end of the electromagnetic spectrum, but less so at infrared, visible and ultraviolet wavelengths. These are therefore often quoted in units of micrometres, mu m (10‍ super negative six  m), or nanometres, nm (10‍ super negative nine  m).

      Wavelengths are given in m's, which is good for the radio end but infred/visible and wultrviolet lengths are often quoted in micrometres or nanometres

    5. The electromagnetic fields are not visible, but their strength and characteristics can be measured with specific instruments. Human eyes are designed to detect the waves across a specific range of wavelengths – from 400 nm to 700 nm, what is known as visible light – and relay this information to the brain. Different wavelengths in the visible range are interpreted as colours, and white light is a mixture of all visible wavelengths. The visible region of the spectrum is also very important for plants, as these are the wavelengths used for photosynthesis. In this context, visible light is referred to as photosynthetically active radiation (PAR). A radio performs a similar function to the eye in a different part of the electromagnetic spectrum, detecting radio waves and relaying them to a speaker to make sound.

      we can see 400-700 nm and its called visible light different wavelengths are interpreted as colours and Plants use the visible section for photosynthesis, so visible light is known as photosynthesis active radiation (PAR) Radio performs similar actions to eyes to create a sound

    6. The values of irradiance discussed above are for solar radiation reaching the top of the atmosphere. Solar radiation then has to travel through the atmosphere and, even though this is a very small distance relative to the overall journey from the Sun, the atmosphere has an important effect on the nature of the radiation reaching the Earth’s surface and the overall energy balance of the Earth because of interactions solar radiation has with the constituents of the atmosphere. We’ll discuss these interactions and their implications in the next study session, but first we need to understand a bit more about the nature of solar radiation.

      The atmosphere has a big affect on the radiation coming thrugh and chances the energy balance

    7. The total energy output per second from the Sun, or radiative power, is an enormous 3.85 multiplication 10 super 26  W. This solar energy is emitted in all directions from the Sun, and the power of solar radiation that hits the top of the Earth’s atmosphere is a tiny fraction of it, about 1.735 multiplication 10 super 17  W (or 4.5 multiplication 10 super negative eight  %). This value represents an average over the year, as it varies by a few per cent with the distance of the Earth from the Sun, due to the elliptical orbit of the Earth around the Sun. The power per unit area of solar radiation (for a surface perpendicular to the Sun’s rays) is termed solar irradiance and has units of W m‍ super negative two . The solar irradiance when the Earth is at the average distance from the Sun (1 astronomical unit, AU) is termed the solar constant and is 1361 W m‍ super negative two . This is illustrated in Figure 2.1.10. By the time solar radiation reaches Earth, the rays are essentially parallel due to the large distance between the Sun and Earth, and the intensity of the radiation crossing an imaginary plane perpendicular to the Sun’s rays defines the solar constant.

      The suns radiation is 3.85x10^26W, but Earth only gets 1.735x10^17 over the year The solar radiation pwoer er unit area is called the solar irradiance, units of Wm-2, The solar constant, for the avergage Earth distance from the SUn is 1361 Wm-2 By the time the suns ray hit earth they're parallel

    8. Earth, like the rest of the universe, is made up of matter and energy. Matter is anything that has mass and takes up space, from individual atoms to everything comprised of atoms. Energy is commonly defined as the ability to do work, including the movement of mass. Energy exists in various forms, such as radiant, thermal, chemical, electrical and nuclear, but all forms of energy fall into the categories of kinetic and potential energy. Kinetic energy is energy in use, or the energy of motion. Potential energy is energy stored or not yet used. The SI unit for energy is the joule (J), and the rate of energy release or transfer is known as power, which has the unit of watts (W), where 1 W = 1 J s

      Energy is the ability to work, everything is kinetic or potential (stored)

      1 W = 1 Js -1

    1. My Summary,

      This article is all about Mastery. It's aimed at young 20 somethings but it just relevant to use here because we have not found a niche that resonates with our souls.

      • Mastery is a process made up of multiple parts,
      • Work in Public
      • Get critical feedback
      • Deliberate Practice
      • Intelligent self reflection, see the questions in the article via my tags
      • Social Networking to understand you niche, ask these people intelligent questions and create a knowledge garden
      • Increase luck interface
    2. If a harmful AGI is created tomorrow, I’m not in a position to directly help.

      I feel this way about Fediverse software, like the BasedCamp podcast with Malcom and Simone Collins just got a youtube strike and still have no medium to move their audience over to. But if they did I would not be ready to take advantage of the transition.

    1. Dr Yalom talks about this as well in the book and argues that self-disclosure can be useful to building connection, the thing that accounts for 80% of success in therapy.

      Sessions also contain self-disclosure by Yalom, against therapeutic condition, but here positioned as way to connect. (and I think regular interaction between ppl.)

    2. The book is a collection of stories of these one-off sessions, and they are fascinating to me as a psychologist. How effective can one hour of conversation be? It is true that Dr Yalom (or Irv, as he asks his clients to call him) does not promise to resolve his clients’ needs in one hour; in fact, every consultation is ended with him providing names of other clinicians and urging the client to continue with longer-term therapy.

      Yalom during Covid engaged in 1 hour sessions. Not as self-contained therapy, but still self-contained one-off conversations.

    1. Coffee linked to slower biological ageing among those with severe mental illness – up to a limit
      • King’s College London researchers report that, in people with schizophrenia, bipolar disorder or psychotic depression, coffee consumption within NHS guidelines is associated with slower biological ageing, as measured by telomere length.
      • Telomeres, protective caps on chromosomes, naturally shorten with age and tend to be shorter in people with severe mental illness, who already face a substantially reduced life expectancy compared with the general population.
      • In a Norwegian cohort of 436 adults aged 18–65 with severe mental illness, self‑reported coffee intake of up to four cups per day correlated with longer telomeres than in non‑coffee drinkers, roughly equivalent to about five years’ younger biological age.
      • The strongest association appeared at three to four cups per day; reported intake above four cups was linked to shorter telomeres than in the three‑to‑four‑cup group, suggesting any potential benefit may plateau or reverse at higher doses.
      • The association remained after adjusting for age, sex, ethnicity, medication and tobacco use, but the study lacked detail on brew type or caffeine content and cannot prove that coffee itself causes the differences in telomere length.
      • Authors emphasize that coffee’s health effects are dose‑dependent and complex, that lifestyle factors like coffee intake are modifiable compared with genetics or life stress, and that further longitudinal and mechanistic studies are needed before drawing causal conclusions.
      • Data came from the long‑running Norwegian TOP study, used here to link psychiatric diagnoses, telomere measurements from blood samples and self‑reported coffee consumption, with funding from Norwegian and UK research bodies.

      Hacker News Discussion

      • Several commenters argue that the study’s observational, self‑reported design leaves substantial room for confounding from sleep patterns, medications, smoking, socioeconomic status and other lifestyle factors, so the apparent “optimal” coffee range may reflect non‑linear confounding rather than a real biological threshold.
      • Critics say the article’s language overstates what can be inferred, noting that no intervention was done, mechanisms were not tested, and telomere‑based “biological age” algorithms are imperfect proxies that can disagree and often reflect current health more than true ageing.
      • Some participants see this work as part of a broader pattern in nutrition epidemiology where modest associations are framed as causal, sometimes veering into “citation farming” and p‑hacking, and call for clearer distinction between correlation and causation.
      • Others discuss conflicting coffee literature, differences between instant and other brews, personal experiences with cutting or increasing caffeine, and the general view that while coffee may have health benefits, claims of large lifespan or ageing effects should be treated with skepticism absent strong mechanistic evidence.
    1. Nie przewidzisz następnego krachu na giełdzie

      The video discusses the difficulty of predicting stock market crashes and the poor track record of financial experts in this area.

      • Critique of Market Predictions

        • A study analyzing 6,582 forecasts from 68 experts between 2005 and 2012 found that the average expert had an accuracy rate of only 46.9% (below 50%) [00:00:57].
        • The study showed that better results could be achieved by simply flipping a coin [00:01:21].
        • After accounting for transaction costs required to follow the advice, the study concluded that none of the experts would have earned money for an investor [00:01:31].
        • The narrator suggests that financial media (like CNBC) does not publish experts' success rates because their achievements are typically only average [00:01:57].
      • Notable "Prophets of Doom"

        • Michael Burry: Predicted the 2008 crisis but is criticized for constantly predicting new crises annually, including recent concerns about a potential bubble in passive investing/index funds (referred to as "Kassandra" for his unheeded warnings) [00:02:47]. He notably missed the COVID-19 crash [00:03:39].
        • Jamie Dimon (CEO of JP Morgan): Often joked about for predicting 22 of the last three crashes, constantly forecasting crises and recessions [00:04:03].
        • Jim Cramer: Known for producing hundreds of buy/sell recommendations annually on CNBC's Mad Money, which are seen more as attention-grabbing content than sound investment advice [00:04:19].
      • Why Do People Make Predictions?

        • Fear Sells: Negative scenarios and "black swan" events generate high interest and attention [00:00:08], [00:04:45].
        • Self-Interest: Experts may act in their own interest, potentially aiming for short-term market fluctuations to profit [00:04:53].
        • Luck and Randomness: A simulation showed that purely by random chance (a 50/50 probability), 313 out of 10,000 fictional investors would have earned a profit every year for five years, showing how "gurus" can emerge through sheer luck [00:06:52].
      • Investment Philosophy and Takeaways

        • The focus should be on long-term investing using instruments like broad-market ETFs [00:09:45].
        • Crashes are opportunities: Investors should want crashes because they allow them to buy assets at lower prices, which is beneficial for a long-term strategy [00:10:12].
        • Preparation over Prediction: The key conclusion is that investors should not try to predict crises but should focus on being prepared with a sound strategy to function comfortably when corrections occur [00:10:53].
        • Quote from Peter Lynch: "Investors have lost significantly more money preparing for corrections or trying to predict them than they lost on the corrections themselves" [00:09:35].
    1. Co nas czeka w 2026 roku, XTB podaje zwycięskie TICKERY i sektory
      • Source and Context

        • The video summarizes the Market Outlook 2026 report released by XTB, a financial institution [00:00:00].
        • The report covers macroeconomics, currency markets, commodities, stock indices, stocks, and cryptocurrencies [00:01:50].
        • The primary advice for 2026 is the need for investors to balance caution with seizing emerging opportunities, given stabilizing inflation, slowing growth, and political risks [00:01:01], [00:10:31].
      • Macroeconomic and Currency Observations

        • Europe: European manufacturers (like Hermes and Uniliver) are handling US tariffs better than expected [00:02:21]. However, a major concern is Europe's low investment in R&D (2.3% of GDP vs. 3.4% in the US) and the difficulty of commercializing university patents, pointing to a lack of innovation [00:02:37].
        • Political Risk: The rising strength of populist parties is flagged as a risk that could undermine investor confidence [00:03:11].
        • Euro/Dollar: The Euro's strengthening was attributed to the Dollar's weakness ("micro-crisis of confidence in the dollar," according to ECB President Christine Lagarde), but the Euro's global position will not improve without fundamental economic improvements in the Eurozone [00:03:38].
        • Gold: China continues to increase its gold reserves, now accounting for nearly 8% [00:04:05].
      • Sectors and the Tech Bubble Comparison

        • Tech Valuations: Current high valuations are considered justified by phenomenal financial results and massive capital expenditure on Artificial Intelligence (AI) by Big Tech [00:04:19].
        • Performance Post-Bubble: An analysis of performance one year after the dot-com bubble showed that the S&P 500 Equal Weight index performed the best, while the NASDAQ and MSCI Emerging Markets performed the worst [00:04:52].
        • Resilient Sectors (Defensive): Sectors that held up best after the bubble burst included Healthcare (the top performer), Consumer Staples, Insurance, and Transport [00:05:17].
        • Vulnerable Sectors (Speculative): The worst-performing sectors included Technology Hardware (over 50% loss) and Software (nearly 40% loss) [00:05:35]. The trend showed a significant migration of capital from technology stocks to defensive sectors [00:06:05].
      • XTB's Top Tickers for 2026

        • Palo Alto Networks (Cybersecurity): Expected to double revenue within five years due to its subscription model, cross-selling success, and the acquisition of CyberArk [00:06:21].
        • ASML (Semiconductors): Highlighted as a monopolist that controls 75% of the global market for advanced lithography machines used in chip production [00:07:06].
        • LVMH (Luxury Goods): Expected to benefit from stabilization in China, US interest rate cuts, and geographical diversification, leading to increased sales in Europe [00:07:43].
        • MP Materials (Rare Earth Metals): A US-based company capitalizing on the geopolitical tensions between the US and China in the rare earth sector. It has contracts with Apple and the US Department of Defense [00:08:21].
        • Symbotic (Automation): A supply chain automation company that uses advanced AI and robotics, with major clients like Walmart and a backlog exceeding $22 billion [00:09:41].
        • Banco Macro (Argentina): Expected to benefit from the policies of President Javier Milei, which aim to attract foreign capital [00:10:02].
        • Other mentioned stocks include Ferrari (controlled growth), Upcellera (biotech platform), and Kohort (UK defense systems) [00:09:11], [00:09:20], [00:10:11].
        • Cryptocurrencies: The report suggests a potential battle between Ethereum and Bitcoin in 2026 [00:10:22].

      The video mentions CD Project as one of the Top Picks for 2026 identified by the Polish brokerage house mBank [00:11:27].

      Here is a summary of all the Polish broker top stock picks mentioned in the video:

      Polish Broker Top Picks for 2026

      • mBank Top Picks [00:11:19]:
        • CD Project (gaming company)
        • Cyberfolks
        • Kruk
        • Mobrook
        • Cryfizen Bank Polski
        • PKO BP (PKOP)
        • Alior Bank
        • Polimexostal
      • Noble Securities Top Picks [00:11:57]:
        • These picks focus on a potential revival in the trade and construction sectors.
        • MFO
        • Ferro
        • Unibep
        • Murator
        • Electro Team
        • Mangata Holding
        • Odlewnie
    1. New features Allow asking AI questions about any book in your calibre library. Right click the "View" button and choose "Discuss selected book(s) with AI" AI: Allow asking AI what book to read next by right clicking on a book and using the "Similar books" menu AI: Add a new backend for "LM Studio" which allows running various AI models locally

      AI features in Calibre. discuss book w C, book suggestions, and LMStudio back-end. I set up Calibre w the LM Studio back-end, so things remain loca.

      A posting elsewhere suggested it woud also suggest better metadata through AI. But that article seems generated itself, so disregarded.

    1. Afer painting this grim picture, they declared thatthe China that I was visiting, the China outside of those heavy doors that theyhad just eagerly denounced, was not in fact “the real China.”2 Te real China, aland of rites and etiquette (liyi zhi bang), and a global exemplar of morality andharmony, was based in the “Great Way” (da dao) that extended from the begin-ning of time to modernity.3 But this Great Way had been lost decades ago, andhad been replaced by an inferior way (xiao dao), in which people were solely con-cerned with convenience, ease, speed, money, and their own selfsh interests. Now,

      This statement feels kind of wild, it’s like the teachers honestly believe they’re the ones preserving the “real” China. It shows how nostalgia can turn into a comforting fantasy people use to avoid facing how much the world has changed. It also makes me feel like the academy isn’t just teaching manners at all, it’s creating its own little imagined universe.

    1. If you are truly interested in the subjective experience of the participants, it is their concerns rather than the researchers’ thatmust take center stage.

      I think this is an important reminder. It’s easy to enter an interview trying to confirm our own theories, but that defeats the purpose of qualitative research. I like how this sentence forces humility, that you're not the expert in someone else's experience.

    2. If your interpretation issupported by the data, then it is valid, even if there are other ways to interpret the same data.

      I think this really reduces the pressure. I like the idea that qualitative work isn’t about finding “the truth” but about building a reasonable interpretation. It makes the research feel more flexible, instead of something you can fail at by choosing the "wrong" idea.

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    1. But because Kirk’s was the first course of its kind, there was no common syllabus or set of standards, no textbook to use. So Kirk and Hwu wrote one. Their first edition of Programming Massively Parallel Processors, which was published in 2010, sold tens of thousands of copies, was translated into several languages, and was eventually used by hundreds of schools. It was a major inflection point in attracting attention, and talent, to CUDA.

    1. Two other companies that operate dozens of ABC stations came out against Kimmel, and they are being cheered on by a Trump administration regulator who can make life difficult for ABC’s owner, the Walt Disney Co. But advocates for free speech say it’s time for the company — anyone, really — to take a stand.

      This juxtaposition shows the two sides of this "argument". It's interesting to see that the first part is longer than the counterargument. It seems like there was more effort put into the first part.

    1. 5. Charity is love received and given. It is “grace” (cháris). Its source is the wellspring of the Father's love for the Son, in the Holy Spirit. Love comes down to us from the Son. It is creative love, through which we have our being; it is redemptive love, through which we are recreated. Love is revealed and made present by Christ (cf. Jn 13:1) and “poured into our hearts through the Holy Spirit” (Rom 5:5). As the objects of God's love, men and women become subjects of charity, they are called to make themselves instruments of grace, so as to pour forth God's charity and to weave networks of charity. This dynamic of charity received and given is what gives rise to the Church's social teaching, which is caritas in veritate in re sociali: the proclamation of the truth of Christ's love in society. This doctrine is a service to charity, but its locus is truth. Truth preserves and expresses charity's power to liberate in the ever-changing events of history. It is at the same time the truth of faith and of reason, both in the distinction and also in the convergence of those two cognitive fields. Development, social well-being, the search for a satisfactory solution to the grave socio-economic problems besetting humanity, all need this truth. What they need even more is that this truth should be loved and demonstrated. Without truth, without trust and love for what is true, there is no social conscience and responsibility, and social action ends up serving private interests and the logic of power, resulting in social fragmentation, especially in a globalized society at difficult times like the present.

      Charity is love recieved and given. Subject sof charity are claled to make themselves instruments of grace, active in networks of charity.

    1. Concerning elapid venoms, the low immunogenicity of 3FTXs makes generating homogeneous antivenoms difficult [2]. The elapid 3FTXs are peptides with associated non-enzymatic activity, ranging from 60 to 85 amino acids. They contain eight highly conserved cysteine residues that form 4 disulfide bridges that stabilize their hydrophobic core, from which emerge three loops that bear 3–5 antiparallel beta-strands. Besides, some 3FTXs also contain an extra pair of cysteine residues that forms one more disulfide bridge located at one of the loops. 3FTXs encompass many proteins with diverse functions like cytotoxicity (e.g. cardiotoxins) [3], [4] and neurotoxicity (e.g. α-neurotoxins, fasciculins, muscarinic toxins, L-type calcium channel blockers) [5], [6], [7]. Snake venom composition from elapids and from their related colubrids show that PLA2 and 3FTXs are not only the most abundant protein families [8], [9], but also, the most toxic ones [10].

      what is 3ftx? - they are the most abundent in elapid snakes

    1. participation exemption

      What is Participation Exemption? Participation exemption is a tax rule used in many countries that allows companies to avoid being taxed twice on profits received from their subsidiaries or shareholdings. In simple terms: ➡️ If a company owns shares in another company and receives dividends or sells those shares at a gain, those profits may be exempt from corporate tax. Why does it exist? Without participation exemption, the same profit could be taxed multiple times: The subsidiary earns profit → taxed once. The subsidiary pays dividends to the parent company → taxed again by the parent. If the parent sells its shares → the capital gain could be taxed again. Participation exemption prevents this double or triple taxation. Typical Requirements These depend on the country, but often include: Minimum ownership percentage (e.g., at least 5–10% of the subsidiary’s shares). Minimum holding period (e.g., at least 6 months or 1 year). The subsidiary cannot be a tax haven or involved in passive income abuse. The income must come from equity participation, not loans.

    1. Saladin and Richard are both remembered as brilliant generals, with Saladin being additionally remembered for his chivalry and Richard for his ferocious courage in battle and inspirational leadership of his troops.

      It’s really interesting how their legacies balance each other out. Saladin is admired not just for his military skill but also for his sense of honor, while Richard is remembered for his raw bravery and ability to fire up his troops. Together, they make that era feel larger than life.

    2. He described the Rūsiyyah as perfect human specimens but found their hygiene and sexual practices disgusting and shameless.

      He clearly admired the Rūsiyyah for their strength and appearance, but he was really shocked by what he saw as their unhygienic and shameless habits. It’s such an interesting mix of respect and disbelief in one description.

    1. Boosters have long paid star athletes under the table. Off-the-books compensation is a routine part of the recruiting process, though not all of it is paid in money. Once a recruit is on campus, athletic directors sometimes arrange no-show jobs.
      • Boosters(wealthy supporters of a team) have been secretely giving money or gifts to star athletes.
      • Some are given fake jobs("no-show" jobs) where they get paid but don't actually work.
      • Even though athletes are not allowed to have agents, some still do it secretly.
    2. . And schools are still, for the most part, not allowed to directly pay student-athletes for their work. And the new NIL policy mainly benefits the more recognizable athletes.

      The author is trying to use logic. This reiterates that athletes don't get paid and the new NIL rule is not enough, but it is a step in the right direction.

    1. singly, BE clearly lowered the ratings ofspeakers, leading to diminished ratings in 7 of the first 10 dimen-sions including intelligence, articulation, aggression, education,and qualifica

      This shows that using black English negatively affected perceived competence, while trustworthiness ratings remained relatively stable, highlighting how dialect influences judgment of intelligence and skill but not necessarily honesty or likability.

    1. "Much of what the American educational systemteaches children about language is factually incorrect; in this it is thorough,consistent, and successful across social and economic boundaries" (Lippi-Green, 1994, p. 167)

      This quote shows that many teachers believe they're teaching standard English correctly, but research suggests they often don't understand that the standard actually is.

    2. Standard Ideology "stresses the impor-tance and superiority of the standard, 'literate' or 'unaccented' variety ofEnglish" (Wiley and Lukes, 1991, p. 514).

      This explains that what people view as "correct" English isnt based on actual linguistic facts but on a belief system. It influences institutions and public opinion, shaping how society treats different dialects even when there's no real justification

    3. lief. Third, Standard English is the language of the workplaceessential for social mobility. While we do not refute this assumption, we do explothe discrimination that stem

      The authors accept that this has truth in society, but point out that it leads to discrimination.

    4. h. First, spoken English equates to written English. Substantial evidendemonstrates that this equation is both misle

      The authors are pointing out the first major misconception. People treat their speech and writing like they're the same, but research shows they differ significantly

    1. This study has some obvious limitations in that the total number of students who received the questionnaire is unknownbut compared to the total number of medical students in second year at the six universities, the sample size can beconsidered relatively small, although perhaps still representative

      the data may be inaccurate to the average students around the UK, but they still think its applicable to gain some perspective for uni students.

    2. Examples of the advice these gap year students would give to current students on the effects of a gap year include:‘An amazing experience with many opportunities which may not be possible later in life’.‘Learning life skills and gain confidence before starting university’.‘Wider experience, throws you out of your comfort zone, learn life skills, more open minded, less self consciousand increases confidence.’‘The maturity and experience gained along with awareness of both myself and the world around me enabled me torealise why I wanted to study medicine and to deal with the pressure of medical school.’‘Although it was a little tricky getting back to work, the year provided invaluable life-experience and I definitelygrew up a lot (I sometimes notice a lack of this in some - but not all! - people who didn't take one)’‘I definitely think I would have dropped out of medical school if I hadn’t had time to have fun and travel

      examples for the benefits of taking a gap year

    1. Figure 1.

      I did not find a mention of the "Matching NA" note in fig 1A. I believe this relates to the need to match the NA of the collector lens to the NA of the objective but it would be good to clarify that. Is it also preferable that the NA of the optical fiber matches that of the collector lens?

    1. The values used in training are wTP = 8, wFP = 6, wFN = 5, and wTN = 1, while thethreshold value used is 0.5. These values are selected through a manual tuning optimizing the performanceson the validation dataset.

      Since molecules will all have vastly different numbers of peaks, but the thresholds are the same, does the learning rate of the model depend somehow on the number of peaks in the molecule?

    1. What Is a Federated Garden? A federated digital garden is a personal knowledge space that: Starts private (your vault, your chaos, your unfinished thoughts) Grows selectively public (some notes bloom into garden pages) Connects across platforms (one source → many destinations) Links bidirectionally (gardens can discover and reference each other) Key principles: Gradual disclosure: Not everything needs to be public—choose what to share Version multiplicity: A note can exist as a draft, a garden page, a newsletter piece, and a toot Decentralized ownership: You control the source, not a platform Interoperability: Uses open standards (Markdown, RSS, ActivityPub, HTML)

      The page confuses tools and content imo, but this is a workable list of attributes. 'Grows selectively public' is the key imo. #openvraag #webbeheer What can I do to improve the note to webpage pipeline I have but seldom use?

    1. ig. 4). Often (but not always) in school, studenStandard English. Often (but not always) in narrative anwriting, students choose vernacular to create voi

      Often, in academic settings, students choose to use SE, but opt for vernacular when writing creatively

    1. I speak from my experience on Olympia typewriters, and my engineers degree says the same: The most inner portion is not intended to recurve. Main springs wind in one direction, all the way. In this status, it's not usable. But fear not, you can rescue it. I rescued a main spring that had the inner connector broken off. Main springs (like all springs) tend to be very tough steel. You can simply break the faulty portion off. Then, you clamp the new end in grip pliers that double as a grip and a heat sink. A vice will do the same, but will be very finicky with the narrow curvature of the spring. Let that piece of the spring that you intend to bend into your new connector peek out of the pliers. Get a blow torch and heat that tiny piece to a bright red glow, then bend it one-third of the intended bend. Heat again, bend again, and once again. And now comes the most important part, the annealing: Take the spring out of the heat sink. Carefully apply heat to the new connector and the first tiny piece of the spring with your blow torch. You want to warm the connector, the bend and approximately 5mm or ¼ inch of the untouched spring. Don't allow it to glow. It may only make slight orange traces in the flame, but no more. Pull the flame away slowly, don't let it crash cool, don't blow on it, don't put it in water. Don't burn your fingers in the process. Your main spring is shorter now, but it will work just fine. Welcome to the world of typewriter blacksmiths.

      https://www.reddit.com/r/TypewriterRepair/comments/1pbnomi/mainspring_twisted/

    1. In this current context of scientific explosionat all levels (although the exponential growth is not thesame in all scientific disciplines), we find the advent ofnew disciplines and subdisciplines that help us toclassify the areas of knowledge.Thus, to order this informative explosion, itwas convenient to establish a classification system forthe different areas of study. The UNESCO InternationalNomenclature for the fields of Science and Technologywas proposed in 1973 and 1974 by the Science andTechnology Policy Divisions of Science andTechnology of UNESCO and adopted by the Scientificand Technical Research Advisory Commission. It is aknowledge classification system widely used in themanagement of research projects and doctoral theses.And, as a sign that science always brings newhorizons to knowledge, new actors are alwaysappearing in this classification system.In the field that occupies us, however, we findourselves with a great absence. The "Astrobiology",does not appear in the listings of UNESCO. But yes, wefind in them the term "Exobiology" [2, 3]. This "partial"absence denotes the novelty that is still today toscientifically consider the study of life outside Earth.Indeed, until very recently and by manyscientists, it was considered "Exobiology" or"Astrobiology" (which we will consider synonyms), ascience without an area of study. This was especiallytrue until 1995, when Michel Mayor and Didier Quelozdiscovered the first extrasolar planet, 51 Pegasi b.Fortunately, today things are beginning to change andmore and more scientists believe that life will be aubiquitous phenomenon, which will occur anywhere inthe universe where the conditions are right for it.Life will then be an epiphenomenon, an eventthat has no choice but to occur, as soon as thecomplexity of the chemical organization of matterreaches the critical point of interaction between thetrace elements, the essential elements for life. At thebase of it we will find carbon, hydrogen, oxygen,nitrogen, phosphorus and sulphur.As life will be a ubiquitous phenomenon,finally today we already intuit that not even a planet isnecessary for life to prosper, and that life could bemaintained in interstellar space, without planetarysubstratum. But before continuing, it is convenient tofix some definitions.The debate on what is life? has occupied allgenerations of thinkers. It is a very difficult concept todefine. Currently there is consensus in affirming thatlife is a self-contained, autopoietic chemical system(self-sufficient exchanging energy with theenvironment in which it is located), capable ofreproducing itself and experiencing evolution [4]. It isa broad definition. In it the minerals could fit, and eventhe stars themselves, as we will see later.So, in view of the complexity of theknowledge that we are slowly acquiring about theuniverse, and given the challenges posed by thepossibility of assuming that life will be found virtuallyanywhere, it is convenient to establish a series of ethicalvalues that allow a positive integration in the culturalbaggage of society of the new limits of knowledge thatscience gives us.For this reason, a "Philosophy of Science" -code UNESCO 7205.01- was established, under whichsince the 80s we can find the "Philosophy of Biology".Before delving into the Philosophy ofAstrobiology, we will give its definition, based on theconcepts of "Philosophy" and "Astrobiology".

      Authors argue that the growth of the sciences in human culture has driven the need to expand the ontology of scientific categories. As astrobiology matures, more complex studies across disciplines are needed to address evolving areas - e.g., exobiology, philosophy of astrobiology, or my own term exoastronomy which I coined in 2018. These are missing from the UNESCO International nomenclature as of 2025/2026.

    2. To cite an example, the Australian aboriginesexplain with legends that their origin is extraterrestrial.They say that their cave paintings known as"wandjinas" are actually self-portraits made by thesewandjinas, gods or spirits associated with clouds andrain (inhabitants of sky, therefore). In the WesternAustralia region of Kimberley these rock art works areabundant, which have usually been dated to some 4000years old. But aboriginal tradition tells that it was thegods themselves who painted themselves in rockyshelters and who commissioned human artists (see Fig.2) to regularly repaint these manifestations of divinity

      Aborigines mention cave paintings are self-portraits made by gods from the sky. The creation gods who came from the sky (or the sea in some accounts) in the Dreamtime were the Wandjina. It's difficult to necessarily associate them as extraterrestrial since they are also posited to have originated with clouds, rain, fertility, and the creation of the land and its people. This needs more references to validate the claim.

    3. Its relation to their celestial origin is alsoevident in the Maasai culture. In 2005 the Maasai ofSynia, Tanzania, explained to Rafael Balaguer Rosatheir legends, star lore and their astronomicalknowledge, very basic, but that also related their originwith the sky, with space, in charge of their unique godNgai.Ngai travels from heaven to Earth descendingthe Milky Way. They call the Milky Way “nkurrei”,which means “way” too, great example of culturalconvergence; and to the Magellanic Clouds

      The mention of the Maasai culture in Tanzania believing their god Ngai descended from the Milky Way seems speculative and not well referenced. Other sources just note Ngai descended from the sky. One of the authors is referenced - Rafael Balaguer Rosa, Tras los Pasos de Ngai, AstronomíA, 73-74 (2005), July-August 26-35

    4. Figure 4. According to transhumanism merginghumans and technologies might change ourphysical status (Source: Ray Kurzweil's “TheSingularity is Near”, 2005).The figure shows how biological, cultural andtechnological evolution is progressing towards a certainincrease in complexity through different stages ofdevelopment, taking advantage of the capacities thatappear in each one of them, and taking advantage ofthese capabilities in a cumulative way, to take the leapto a higher evolutionary state, as we saw at thebeginning with the growth of science. The mostinteresting thing is that this scheme can be applied notonly to life, to humans and our culture, but to the entireUniverse, since the Universe is the set of everythingthat has existed, everything that exists, everything whatwill exist... and the information it contains. This lastpart, that of the information, is the one that interests usespecially

      Kurzweil's epochs of evolution speculate higher levels of consciousness, transhumanism to a universal consciousness. In The Singularity Is Near he portrays what life will be like after the transhuman event: a human-machine civilization where our experiences become virtual reality, intelligence becomes nonbiological and trillions of times more powerful than current human intelligence.

    1. Authorities say the 22-year-old grew up in a conservative household in southern Utah but was enmeshed in “leftist ideology.” His parents told investigators he had turned politically left and pro-LGBTQ rights in the last year. His voter status is inactive, meaning he did not vote in two regular general elections. He told his transgender partner that he targeted Kirk because he “had enough of his hatred.”

      Even though this was an article about Jimmy Kimmel talking about Kirk's assassination, they made the choice to include the reason given as to why the killer decided to assassinate him.

    1. Energy trade-offs under fluctuating light govern bioenergetics and growth in Chlamydomonas reinhardtii

      Your integration of physiology, proteomics, and metabolomics across fluctuating-light and CO₂ conditions gives a clear, comprehensive picture of how C. reinhardtii shifts its energy budget when light and carbon availability vary. Ambient CO₂ drives cells into an ATP-limited, CCM-dependent state, while elevated CO₂ produces a more energetically permissive one; chloroplast-to-mitochondria electron flow becomes the dominant ATP-support pathway under carbon limitation, more than cyclic electron flow or flavodiiron activity. This opens up a few questions:

      Because dissolved CO₂ is naturally low in aquatic habitats, ambient CO₂ in the lab recreates Chlamydomonas’ typical carbon environment, but it also forces continuous CCM activity and high ATP demand. How do you define the appropriate “baseline physiology” in this context? Should the CCM-on, low-CO₂ state be treated as the reference, or is the high-CO₂, CCM-off state a more useful baseline for interpreting metabolic and proteomic differences?

      Your data also raise questions about standard Chlamydomonas culturing practices. Most labs grow cells in constant light at ambient CO₂, which your results suggest enforces a high-ATP-demand, CCM-dominated state. Do you think culturing norms should shift toward supplemented CO₂ or specific fluctuating-light regimes for baseline studies? If ambient CO₂ is the ecologically relevant state, how should we interpret findings generated under 2% CO₂, where major ATP sinks are artificially suppressed?

      Lastly, given the strong mitochondrial contribution under carbon limitation, did you examine mitochondrial positioning or morphology under LL, HL, and FL conditions? It would also be useful to know whether different fluctuating-light pulse lengths shift reliance on malate-based chloroplast–mitochondria shuttling. Prior work shows CO₂-dependent mitochondrial repositioning (doi: 10.1111/tpj.70601), suggesting that both structural changes and fluctuation frequency could help distinguish productive from non-productive shuttling states.

    1. Synthèse du Webinaire : Utiliser Canva pour les Actions Associatives

      Résumé Exécutif

      Ce document de synthèse résume les points clés et les enseignements du webinaire "Apprendre à utiliser Canva pour vos actions associatives", organisé par Solidatech.

      La session, animée par des expertes de Canva, visait à doter les associations des connaissances nécessaires pour utiliser efficacement la plateforme Canva dans leurs communications, avec un focus particulier sur la création d'affiches pour le recrutement de bénévoles.

      Les principaux points à retenir sont les suivants :

      1. Canva Solidaire : L'information la plus cruciale pour les associations est l'existence de "Canva Solidaire", une offre qui donne un accès gratuit et complet à Canva Pro pour les associations loi 1901 éligibles, permettant d'intégrer jusqu'à 10 membres d'équipe.

      2. Principes de Conception Graphique : Une bonne conception d'affiche repose sur cinq piliers fondamentaux : la hiérarchisation de l'information, le branding (identité visuelle), la visibilité (impact visuel), la lisibilité (confort de lecture) et la composition (équilibre des éléments).

      3. Fonctionnalités Clés : La plateforme Canva est un outil tout-en-un puissant et intuitif. Les fonctionnalités essentielles présentées incluent l'utilisation de modèles (templates), la personnalisation via le "Kit d'Identité Visuelle" (marque), la manipulation des calques, et la déclinaison rapide des créations pour différents formats (réseaux sociaux, impression).

      4. Intelligence Artificielle (IA) : Canva intègre des outils d'IA accessibles ("Studio Magique") qui permettent de réaliser des tâches complexes simplement, comme la suppression ou la génération d'arrière-plans, la capture de texte sur une image aplatie, et même la génération de code HTML pour des formulaires.

      5. Ressources et Formation : Les participants ont été encouragés à explorer la Canva Design School, une section de la plateforme offrant des cours et tutoriels gratuits.

      De plus, pour trouver des modèles spécifiquement créés par des graphistes français, il est conseillé d'utiliser le mot-clé de recherche "FR association".

      En conclusion, le webinaire a positionné Canva comme un allié stratégique pour les associations, leur permettant de professionnaliser leur communication visuelle avec des ressources limitées, tout en favorisant la collaboration et l'efficacité.

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      1. Introduction et Contexte du Webinaire

      Le webinaire a été organisé par Solidatech pour accompagner les associations dans leur transformation numérique. L'événement a accueilli deux intervenantes expertes de la communauté Canva pour présenter la plateforme et ses applications concrètes pour le secteur associatif.

      Organisateur : Solidatech, représenté par Camille.

      Intervenantes Canva :

      Anne-Gaël : Community Manager de la communauté des "Créators" (graphistes créant les modèles pour la bibliothèque Canva) et des "Édus Créateurs" (enseignants créant du contenu pédagogique).    ◦ Alisée : Directrice artistique, Brand Consultante et ambassadrice Canva, spécialisée dans l'accompagnement des porteurs de projet et des associations.

      Thème Principal : Utiliser Canva pour créer des supports de communication, spécifiquement des affiches de recrutement de bénévoles, en lien avec la Journée Internationale des Bénévoles.

      2. Présentation des Organisations

      Solidatech

      Solidatech est une coopérative d'utilité sociale et environnementale dont la mission est d'aider les associations à renforcer leur impact grâce au numérique. L'organisation accompagne plus de 45 000 associations. Son action repose sur deux piliers :

      1. Réaliser des économies :

      Logiciels : Identification de solutions gratuites ou obtention de remises sur des logiciels payants.    ◦ Matériel : Fourniture de matériel reconditionné (par leur coopérative d'insertion Les Ateliers du Bocage) et de matériel neuf (en partenariat avec Dell).

      2. Monter en compétence sur le numérique :

      Formation : Organisme de formation certifié proposant des formations sur les enjeux du numérique et sur des outils spécifiques.    ◦ Diagnostic : Outil de diagnostic numérique gratuit pour évaluer la maturité numérique d'une association.    ◦ Ressources : Mise à disposition de contenus gratuits (articles, newsletters, webinaires).

      Canva

      Canva est une entreprise australienne fondée en 2013 par Mélanie Perkins avec la mission de "donner au monde le pouvoir de créer" (Empower the world to design). L'objectif est de démocratiser le design en rendant la création visuelle simple et accessible à tous, notamment grâce à un système de glisser-déposer.

      Indicateur Clé

      Chiffre

      Présence mondiale

      190 pays

      Employés

      Plus de 5 000

      Utilisateurs actifs mensuels

      260 millions

      Revenu annualisé

      3,5 milliards de dollars

      Créations depuis 2013

      40 milliards

      Créations par seconde

      Plus de 400

      Utilisateurs (étudiants/enseignants)

      Plus de 100 millions

      Organisations à but non lucratif

      Plus d'un million

      Les valeurs de Canva incluent le fait d'être une "bonne personne", de simplifier la complexité, de viser l'excellence et d'œuvrer pour le bien commun.

      3. L'Offre Canva Solidaire pour les Associations

      Une partie importante de la présentation a été consacrée à Canva Solidaire, l'offre dédiée au secteur associatif.

      Principe : Canva Solidaire est l'équivalent de Canva Pro, mais offert gratuitement aux organisations éligibles.

      Avantages : Accès à toutes les fonctionnalités de Canva Pro, y compris plus de modèles, de photos, d'éléments, le Kit d'Identité Visuelle, la planification de contenu, et la possibilité d'intégrer jusqu'à 10 personnes gratuitement dans l'équipe.

      Éligibilité : L'offre s'adresse principalement aux associations loi 1901. Sont exclues les administrations publiques, les organisations éducatives (qui ont leur propre programme gratuit), et les clubs sportifs professionnels, entre autres.

      Procédure d'inscription :

      1. Se rendre sur la page dédiée de Canva Solidaire.  

      2. Cliquer sur "Demander un compte Canva Solidaire".   

      3. S'inscrire ou se connecter avec un compte Canva existant.  

      4. Rechercher le nom de son association. Dans la plupart des cas, Canva la reconnaît via son numéro de déclaration en préfecture et valide le compte automatiquement.  

      5. Si l'association n'est pas trouvée, il est nécessaire de joindre des documents justificatifs (déclaration en préfecture, statuts de l'association).  

      6. Le support Canva confirme ensuite l'accès par e-mail.

      4. Prise en Main de la Plateforme Canva

      Alisée a présenté une cartographie des fonctionnalités principales de l'interface Canva pour familiariser les utilisateurs, même débutants.

      Page d'accueil : Présente des raccourcis vers différents formats (présentations, réseaux sociaux, vidéos) et des menus pour accéder aux modèles, aux projets existants et à la planification.

      Modèles (Templates) : Le point de départ recommandé pour les débutants. Il s'agit d'une vaste bibliothèque de créations réalisées par les "Créators".

      Astuce : Pour trouver des formats spécifiquement français (ex: marque-page), il est conseillé d'ajouter une astérisque (*) à la recherche.

      Menu de gauche (dans l'éditeur) :

      Design/Modèles : Pour rechercher et appliquer un nouveau modèle.  

      Éléments : Contient les formes, illustrations, photos, vidéos, et audios.  

      Marque : Section cruciale où l'association peut configurer son identité visuelle (logos, couleurs, polices). Une fois configuré, ce kit peut être appliqué en un clic à n'importe quel design pour garantir la cohérence.  

      Importer : Pour ajouter ses propres fichiers (images, logos, vidéos).  

      Texte, Projets, Applications : Autres outils de création et d'organisation.

      Sauvegarde automatique : Canva enregistre les créations en temps réel, évitant ainsi toute perte de travail en cas de problème technique.

      5. Principes Fondamentaux de la Création d'Affiches Efficaces

      Pour créer une affiche percutante, Alisée a détaillé cinq principes de design essentiels :

      1. La Hiérarchisation : Organiser les informations de la plus importante à la moins importante.

      Le titre doit attirer l'œil en premier, suivi des informations clés (date, lieu), puis des détails secondaires. L'œil humain "hiérarchise avant de comprendre".

      2. Le Branding : Utiliser de manière cohérente les éléments de l'identité visuelle de l'association (couleurs, logo, polices, style d'illustration).

      Cela permet une reconnaissance immédiate et renforce le professionnalisme. Par exemple, utiliser du vert pour une association écologique.

      3. La Visibilité : S'assurer que l'affiche est visible et attire l'attention.

      Cela passe par le choix des polices, la présence claire du logo, et l'intégration d'un appel à l'action ("Call to Action") clair et engageant (ex : "Rejoignez-nous !", "Devenez bénévole").

      4. La Lisibilité : Garantir que le message est facile et agréable à lire. Il faut prêter attention au contraste des couleurs, à la taille des polices (éviter les polices fantaisistes pour les paragraphes longs), à l'espacement entre les lignes (interlignage) et aux marges. Le regard a tendance à balayer une page en "Z".

      5. La Composition : L'agencement global des éléments sur la page.

      Il faut travailler avec les alignements, les marges, les espaces négatifs (le "vide") pour créer un équilibre visuel et guider le regard du spectateur, assurant une bonne compréhension du message.

      6. Les Fonctionnalités d'Intelligence Artificielle (IA) de Canva

      Le webinaire a présenté quelques outils d'IA intégrés dans le Studio Magique de Canva, conçus pour simplifier des tâches complexes.

      Génération d'arrière-plan : Possibilité de sélectionner une photo, de supprimer l'arrière-plan existant et d'en générer un nouveau à partir d'une simple description textuelle (prompt).

      Par exemple, transformer une photo de bénévoles sur une plage en une scène dans la nature.

      Capture de texte : Cet outil permet de "détecter" le texte sur une image aplatie (comme un PDF ou un JPEG) et de le rendre entièrement modifiable.

      C'est très utile pour mettre à jour une ancienne affiche dont on n'a plus le fichier source.

      Génération de code : Une fonctionnalité plus avancée a été montrée, où l'IA de Canva a généré le code HTML pour un formulaire de contact destiné au recrutement de bénévoles.

      Ce code peut ensuite être intégré sur un site web ou dans un document.

      7. Déclinaison des Contenus pour Différents Supports

      Un enjeu majeur pour les associations est d'adapter leurs visuels pour différents canaux (flyer, publication Instagram, bannière web, etc.).

      Deux méthodes ont été présentées :

      1. Méthode 1 (Multi-formats dans un seul document) :

      ◦ Dans un design existant (ex: une affiche A4), on peut ajouter une nouvelle "page" et lui assigner un type de format différent (ex: publication Instagram, vidéo, présentation).  

      ◦ Cela permet de conserver tous les éléments de base et de les réorganiser manuellement pour chaque format au sein d'un seul et même projet.

      2. Méthode 2 (Fonction "Redimensionner" - Canva Pro) :

      ◦ Cette fonction permet de dupliquer automatiquement un design dans un ou plusieurs autres formats.  

      ◦ L'utilisateur sélectionne les nouveaux formats désirés (ex: Story Instagram, Bannière Facebook).  

      ◦ Canva crée de nouvelles versions du design aux bonnes dimensions, en tentant d'adapter les éléments.

      Des ajustements manuels sont souvent nécessaires.   

      Conseil d'experte : Il est crucial d'utiliser l'option "Copier et redimensionner" plutôt que "Redimensionner ce design" pour conserver le fichier original intact.

      8. Ressources Complémentaires et Formation Continue

      Pour permettre aux associations d'aller plus loin, les intervenantes ont partagé deux ressources clés :

      Trouver des modèles français : En utilisant le code de recherche FR association dans la barre de recherche de modèles, les utilisateurs peuvent accéder à une sélection de templates créés spécifiquement par la communauté des "Créators" français pour les besoins du secteur associatif.

      Canva Design School : Accessible directement depuis le menu de la plateforme, c'est une "école de design" gratuite intégrée.

      Elle propose des cours, des leçons vidéos en français, et des activités pratiques pour maîtriser des outils spécifiques (vidéo, IA, etc.) et se perfectionner en design graphique.

      9. Session de Questions-Réponses : Points Clés

      La fin du webinaire a permis de clarifier plusieurs points importants :

      Droit d'utilisation des images : Toutes les images de la bibliothèque Canva sont libres de droit pour une utilisation dans des créations.

      Il est possible de vendre des produits (t-shirts, tasses) avec un design créé sur Canva, à condition qu'il s'agisse d'une composition originale (texte, autres éléments ajoutés) et non d'une simple image de la bibliothèque apposée sur le produit.

      Nombre de polices : Pour une affiche, il est recommandé d'utiliser deux à trois polices (typos) maximum pour garantir la clarté et l'harmonie visuelle.

      Newsletters : Canva permet de créer le design d'une newsletter, mais n'est pas un outil d'envoi d'e-mails.

      Le design doit être exporté (par exemple en lien HTML) pour être intégré dans un outil de mailing dédié (ex: Mailchimp).

      Confidentialité : Les créations réalisées sur un compte Canva sont privées et ne sont pas ajoutées à la bibliothèque publique de modèles.

      Langue de l'IA : Les outils d'IA de Canva comprennent et fonctionnent parfaitement avec des instructions en français.

    1. For example, sociologists Feagin and Parker (1990) suggested three factors by which political and economic leaders control urban growth. First, these leaders work alongside each other to influence urban growth and decline, determining where money flows and how land use is regulated.

      Leaders need to do a better job of choosing and acting on where the money flows. They need to do a better job of taking all these factors, statistics and logistic about where exactly our planet is right now and focus on how we can make it better but building things that will actually benefit the quality of life that doesn't just revolve around money.

    2. As cities grew more crowded, and often more impoverished and costly, more and more people began to migrate back out of them. But instead of returning to rural small towns (like they’d resided in before moving to the city), these people needed close access to the cities for their jobs. In the 1850s, as the urban population greatly expanded and transportation options improved, suburbs developed.

      To tie back to what I said about the government expanding money to places that need polishing, maybe the government also needs to start using that money to expand in job availability and creation. Job's that will take into consideration different circumstances the people who are jobless need. Maybe they dont have a college degree, lived in low income places that never had the best education?

    1. While you might be more familiar with the phrase “global warming,” climate change is the term now used to refer to long-term shifts in temperatures due to human activity and, in particular, the release of greenhouse gases into the environment. The planet as a whole is warming, but the term climate change acknowledges that the short-term variations in this process can include both higher and lower temperatures, despite the overarching trend toward warmth.

      I think people should stop the controversy about climate change as it is quite literally a serious and real thing. As a result of poorly taking care of our planet and being so hyper focused on building for capitalism, people should be more scared.

    1. Cybertruck that exploded in front of Trump Hotel in Las Vegas was rented in Colorado, police say

      This headline focuses on how the Cybertruck was rented from Colorado which yes is mentioned in the other articles but not in the headline.

    1. The most frequent causes of death in children under five years old are pneumonia, diarrhea, congenital anomalies, preterm birth complications, birth asphyxia/trauma, and malaria, all of which can be prevented or treated with affordable interventions including immunization, adequate nutrition, safe water and food and quality care by a trained health provider when needed.

      The fact the not only low-income adults have to go through struggling to get medical help but also newborns and children have to face the consequences of not being able to get care of them as well. Again, this has to be a problem fixed and we need to be discussing these issues more often.

    2. Obesity, which is on the rise in high-income nations, has been linked to many diseases, including cardiovascular problems, musculoskeletal problems, diabetes, and respiratory issues.

      I find it so interesting that the highest-income countries have the highest rate of obesity, health problems, diseases and etc. These people may have unhealthy working conditions when it comes to the amount of time being overworked, but they also don't lack the money to buy quality foods, a gym membership and any resources that require caring for one's health.

    3. These epidemiological studies show that the health problems of high-income nations differ from those of low-income nations, but also that diseases and their diagnosis are changing.

      I think this is a significant problem in our society right now, the power imbalance of having the high-income nations having more resources and access to help and medical health. And those who aren't of high-income families end up getting the short end of the stick when it comes to receiving medical help because they don't have enough to get help. This is a serious matter that has to get fixed.

    1. o now, after the height of the coronavirus pandemic, what does “health” mean to you?

      I dont feel like my perception of health has changed, even after the corona virus. Most of the individuals that were affected by this and unfortunately passed away because of it were elders with already existing medical problems. The pandemic caused a strain on those problems and faced the consequences. But even now, people still need to be wary of what they have and how they take care of themselves, especially around elders who are already facing illness. It's as simple as being careful with your health and to take into consideration who you risk around you if you dont.

    1. Reversing transgene silencing via targeted chromatin editing

      The combination of targeted chromatin editors and quantitative modeling provides a compelling framework for dissecting how DNA methylation and H3K9me3 cooperate to enforce transgene silencing. The work makes a strong case that DNA methylation is the primary heritable silencing mark in hiPSCs and that TET1-based demethylation can act as a modular anti-silencing tool.

      I have a few questions about the CHO vs hiPSC comparison and the generality of the proposed feedback loop:

      The key contrast hinges on KRAB installing H3K9me3 with or without subsequent DNA methylation. It’s hard to tell whether the absence of a feedback loop in CHO reflects a cell-type effect, a species effect, or CHO-specific epigenetic drift. Have you tested KRAB-mediated silencing and methylation in any additional mammalian cell types (such as human somatic lines or another rodent line), or mined existing datasets to see whether H3K9me3–DNMT3A coupling is generally weaker outside pluripotent cells?

      You show that DNMT3A recruitment produces stable silencing and that TET1 can collapse both DNA methylation and H3K9me3 at the reporter. This is a powerful tool regardless, but it would be interesting to know whether the same bistable logic applies to endogenous loci. Have you examined KRAB- or DNMT3A-targeted repression at endogenous promoters, or compared H3K9me3 and DNA methylation dynamics at native loci in the same cells?

    1. In all the territory of the United States now held, or hereafter acquired, situated north of latitude 36° 30′, slavery or involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime, is prohibited while such territory shall remain under territorial government.

      Observation: This is the Missouri comprise. With the addition of Missouri as a state in the union the northern Republicans at the time decided to try adding it as a free state. But southern Democrats did not like that, and they let Missouri decide. It eventually becomes a slave state, so northern Republicans added Maine to the union to balance the number of slaves to free states at 13-13. Southern democrats hatted this move and later added a law that prohibited any more slave states past Missouri's southern border. Interpretation: People from the north were afraid of southern slave expansion so they pulled out moves scene to southerners as dangerous and unfair. Connection: This connects to now in days with alliances like NATO and BRICS as the opposing alliances are scene and bad and evil, so both keep adding on to the alliance.

    1. Reply to u/banksclaud at https://reddit.com/r/typewriters/comments/1pf09vb/please_help_surprise_my_son/

      Etsy can often have people flipping machines without having any work done, so be careful on what price you're paying for what you're getting. If it's over $350, it ought to fully serviced and have some sort of guarantee. Otherwise, find something at your local repair shop: https://site.xavier.edu/polt/typewriters/tw-repair.html

      This question is asked so often, I've written up some good general advice which should apply to your child: https://boffosocko.com/2025/03/29/first-time-typewriter-purchases-with-specific-recommendations-for-writers/ For the age and your desire not to be bulky, go for a portable machine and not a larger standard or the more finnicky ultra-portables.

      Some might opt for the brighter colored typewriters for kids for the "fun" factor, but I've found, having done a few type-ins with a huge variety of machines, that it's often the adults that are drawn to the colorful machines (which tend to be less well-built and plastic-y/cheaper) while kids will respond well to the older, duller vintage machines.

      Here's a few 1950's advertisements directed at parents of kids just for fun: <br /> - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTrkDa-GuSI<br /> - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOIRul7pXDY

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      Evidence, reproducibility and clarity

      In this manuscript the authors evaluate the role of Microtubule Associated Protein 7 (MAP7) in postnatal Sertoli cell development. The authors build two novel transgenic mouse lines (Map7-eGFP, Map7 knockout) which will be useful tools to the community. The transgenic mouse lines are used in paired advanced sequencing experiments and advanced imaging experiments to determine how Sertoli cell MAP7 is involved in the first wave of spermatogenesis. The authors identify MAP7 as an important regulator of Sertoli cell polarity and junction formation with loss of MAP7 disrupting intracellular microtubule and F-actin arrangement and Sertoli cell morphology. These structural issues impact the first wave of spermatogenesis causing a meiotic delay that limits round spermatid numbers. The authors also identify possible binding partners for MAP7, key among those MYH9.

      The authors did a great job building a complex multi-modal project that addressed the question of MAP7 function from many angles. The is an excellent balance of using many advanced methods while still keeping the project narrowed, to use only tools to address the real questions. The lack of quality testing on the germ cells outside of TUNEL is disappointing, but the Conclusion section implies that this sort of work is being done currently so the omission in this manuscript is acceptable. However, there is an issue with the imaging portion of the work on MYH9. The conclusions from the MYH9 data is currently overstated, super-resolution imaging of Map7 knockouts with microtubule and F-actin stains, and imaging that uses MYH9 with either Map7-eGFP or anti-MAP7 are also needed to both support the MAP7-MYH9 interaction normally and lack of interaction with failure of MYH9 to localize to microtubules and F-actin in knockouts. Since a Leica SP8 was used for the imaging, using either Leica LIGHTNING or just higher magnification will likely be the easiest solution.

      This manuscript is nicely organized with almost all of the results spelled out very clearly and almost always paired with figures that make compelling and convincing support for the conclusions. There are minor revision suggestions for improving the manuscript listed below. These include synching up Figure and Supplemental Figure reference mismatches. There are also many minor, but important, details that need to be added to the Methods section including many catalog numbers and some references.

      • Some of the imaging, especially Fig4F could benefit and be more convincing with super-resolution imaging in the 150nm range (SIM, Airyscan, LIGHTNING, SoRa) possibly even just imaging with a higher magnification objective (60x or 100x)
      • SuppFig1D: Please add context in the legend to the meaning of the Yellow Stars and "O->U" labels. The latter would seem to be to indicate the Ovarian and Uterine sides of the image
      • Pg6Line7: ¿up to P23 or up to P35?
      • SuppFig4B: ¿Does SuppFig4B reference back to Fig3B or Fig3C? If the latter please update this in the legend.
      • Pg7Line21-23: ¿Is SuppFig3D,E meant to be referenced and not SuppFig5A,B?
      • Pg8Line22-25: ¿Is SuppFig4A meant to be reference and not SuppFig5?
      • Pg8Line34-Pg9Line: ¿Is SuppFig4B meant to be reference and not SuppFig5B?
      • Pg9Line28-33: ¿Would the authors be willing to rework this figure to include images that more closely match the reported findings? The current version does not strongly support the idea that MYH9 fails to localize to microtubule and F-actin domains in Map7 knockout P17 seminiferous tubules. This could also just be a matter of acquiring these images at a higher magnification or with a lower-end (150nm range) super-resolution system (SIM, Airyscan, LIGHTNING, SoRa etc)
      • SuppFig7A: The legend notes these are P23 samples but the image label says 8W. Please update this to whichever is the correct age.
      • Pg16Line4-5: Please include in the text the vendor and catalog number for the C57BL/6 mice
      • Pg16Line18-19: Please include in the text the catalog number for the DMEM
      • Pg16Line19-20: Please include in the text the vendor and catalog number for the FBS
      • Pg16Line20: Please include in the text the vendor and catalog number for the Pen-Strep
      • Pg17Line6-12: Thank you for including organized and detailed information about the primers, please also define the PCR protocol used including temperatures, timing, and cycles for Map7 knockout genotyping
      • Pg17Line20-27: Thank you for including organized and detailed information about the primers, please also define the PCR protocol used including temperatures, timing, and cycles for Map7-eGFP genotyping
      • Pg17Line30: Please include in the text the vendor and catalog number for the Laemmli sample buffer
      • Pg17Line32&SuppTable1: Thank you for including an organized and detailed table for the primary antibodies used, please also make either a similar table or expand the current table to include secondary antibody information
      • Pg17Line32: Please note in the text which primary antibodies and secondary antibodies from Supp Table 1
      • Pg18Line2: Please include in the text the vendor and catalog number for the Bouin's
      • Pg18Line3: Please include in the text the catalog number for the CREST-coated glass slides
      • Pg18Line7: Please include in the text the catalog number for the OCT compound
      • Pg18Line11: Please include in the text the vendor and catalog number for the Donkey Serum
      • Pg18Line11: Please include in the text the vendor and catalog number for the Goat Serum
      • Pg18Line13: Thank you for including an organized and detailed table for the primary antibodies used, please also make either a similar table or expand the current table to include secondary antibody information
      • Pg18Line18: Please include in the text the vendor and catalog number for the DAPI
      • Pg18Line19: Please also include information about the objectives used including catalog numbers, detectors used (PMT vs HyD)
      • Pg18Line23: Please cite in the text the reference paper for Fiji (Schindelin et al. 2012 Nature Methods PMID: 22743772) and note the version of Fiji used
      • Pg18Line24: Please note the version of Aivia used
      • Pg18Line25: If possible, please use a more robust and reliable system than Microsoft Excel to do statistics (Graphpad Prism, Stata, R, etc), if this is not possible please note the version of Microsoft Excel used
      • Pg18Line25: Please cite in the text the reference paper for R (R Core Team 2021 R Foundation for Statistical Computing "R: A Language and Environment for Statistical Computing") and not ethe version of R used
      • Pg18Line25: ¿Please clarify, was a R package called "AVNOVA" used to do ANOVA or is this a typo?
      • Pg18Line25: Please note the specific R package with version used to do ANOVA, and cite in the text the reference for this package
      • Pg18Line32: Please include in the text the catalog number for the EPON 812 Resin
      • Pg19Line3: Please include the version number for Stacker Neo
      • Pg19Line5: Please include the vendor and version number for Amira 2022
      • Pg19Line5: Please include the version number for Microscopy Image Browser
      • Pg19Line5: Please include the version number for MATLAB that was used to run Microscopy Image Browser
      • Pg19Line: 9-10: Please include in the text the catalog number for the complete protease inhibitor
      • Pg19Line14: Please include in the text the catalog number for the Magnetic Agarose Beads
      • Pg19Line16: Please include in the text the catalog number for the GFP-Trap Magnetic Agarose Beads
      • Pg19Line21: Please note in the text which primary antibodies and secondary antibodies from Supp Table 1
      • Pg19Line21-22: Please include in the text the catalog number for the ECL Prime
      • Pg20Line2: Please include the version number for Xcalibur
      • Pg20Line5: Please cite in the text the reference paper for SWISS-PROT (Bairoch and Apweiler 1999 Nucleic Acid Research PMID: 9847139)
      • Pg19Line26: Please include in the text the catalog number for the NuPAGE gels
      • Pg19Line28: Please include in the text the catalog number for the SimpleBlue SafeStain
      • Pg20Line26: Please include in the text the catalog number for the Chromium Singel Cell 3' Reagent Kits v3
      • Pg21Line3: Please cite in the text the reference paper for R (R Core Team 2021 R Foundation for Statistical Computing "R: A Language and Environment for Statistical Computing")
      • Pg21Line3 Please cite in the text the reference for RStudio (Posit team (2025). RStudio: Integrated Development Environment for R. Posit Software, PBC, Boston, MA. URL http://www.posit.co/.)
      • Pg21Line23: Please include the version number for Metascape
      • SuppFig12: please update the legend to include a description after the title and update the figure labeling to correspond to the legend. Also, this figure is currently not referenced anywhere in the text.

      Referee cross-commenting

      I generally agree with Reviewer 1 and specifically concur related to adding details about fertility assessment of the Map7 Knockout line, and enhancing the SEM imaging.

      Significance

      There are mouse lines, and datasets that will be useful resources to the field. This work also advances our understanding of a period in Sertoli cell development that is critical to fertility but very understudied.

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      Evidence, reproducibility and clarity

      Summary:

      A previous study by Komada et al. demonstrated that MAP7 is expressed in both Sertoli and germ cells, and that Map7 gene-trap mutant mice display disrupted microtubule bundle formation in Sertoli cells, accompanied by defects in spermatid manchettes and germ cell loss. In the current study, Kikuchi et al. investigated the role of MAP7 in the formation of the Sertoli cell apical domain during the first wave of spermatogenesis. They generated a GFP-tagged MAP7 mouse line and demonstrated that the endogenous MAP7 protein localizes to the apical microtubules in Sertoli cells and to the manchette microtubules in step 9-11 spermatids. They also generated a new Map7 knockout (KO) mouse line in a genetic background distinct from the one used in the previous study. Focusing on stages before the emergence of step 9-11 spermatids, the authors aimed to isolate defects caused by the function of MAP7 in Sertoli cells. They report that loss of MAP7 impairs Sertoli cell polarity and apical domain formation, accompanied by the microtubule remodeling defect. Using the GFP-tagged MAP7 line, they performed immunoprecipitation-mass spectrometry and identified several MAP7-interacting proteins in the testis, including MYH9. They further observed that MAP7 deletion alters the distribution of MYH9. Single-cell RNA sequencing revealed that the loss of MAP7 in Sertoli cells resulted in slight transcriptomic shifts but had no significant impact on their functional differentiation. Single-cell RNA sequencing analysis also showed delayed meiotic progression in the MAP7-deficient testis. Overall, while the study provides some interesting discoveries of early Sertoli cell defects in MAP7-deficient testes, some conclusions are premature and not fully supported by the presented data. The mechanistic investigations remain limited in depth.

      Major comments:

      • Although the infertility phenotype of the Map7 gene-trap mutant mice has been reported previously, it remains essential to assess fertility in this newly generated MAP7 knockout line. While the authors present testis size and histological differences between WT and KO mice (Extended Fig. 2e and 2f), there is no corresponding description or interpretation in the main text regarding fertility outcomes.
      • In Figure 2C, the authors identified Sertoli cells, spermatogonia cells, and spermatocytes using SEM, based on their cell morphology and adhesion to the basement membrane. Given that the loss of MAP7 disrupts the polarity and architecture of Sertoli cells, the position of germ cells will be affected, making this identification criterion less reliable.
      • In Figure 2e, the number of Sox9-positive Sertoli cells in MAP7 knockout mice appears higher than that in the control at P17. Quantification of total Sox9-positive cells should be done to determine whether MAP7 deletion increases Sertoli cell numbers.
      • To determine whether MAP7's role in regulating Sertoli cell polarity relies on germ cells, the authors treated mice with busulfan at P28 to delete germ cells, a stage after Sertoli cell polarity defect has developed in MAP7 knockout mice. This data is insufficient to support the conclusion that MAP7 regulates Sertoli cell polarity independently of the presence of germ cells. Germ cell deletion should be done before the Sertoli cell defect develops to address this question.
      • The resolution of the SEM images in Figure 3c is insufficient to evaluate tight and adherens junctions clearly. As such, these images do not convincingly support the claim that adherens junctions are absent in the KO testes.
      • GFP-tagged reporter mice and HeLa cells were used for immunoprecipitation-mass spectrometry to identify proteins that interact with MAP7. Given that the authors aimed to elucidate the mechanism by which MAP7 regulates Sertoli cell cytoskeleton organization, the rationale for including HeLa cells is unclear and should be better justified or reconsidered.
      • The authors observed that MYH9, one of the MAP7-interacting proteins, does not colocalize with ectopic microtubule and F-actin structures in MAP7 KO testes and concluded that MAP7 facilitates the integration of microtubules and F-actin via interaction with NMII heavy chains. This conclusion is speculative and not adequately supported by the presented data.
      • The authors used Spearman correlation coefficients to analyze six Sertoli cell clusters and generated a minimum spanning tree to infer differentiation trajectories. However, details on the method used for constructing the tree are lacking. Moreover, relying solely on Spearman correlation to define differentiation topology is oversimplified.

      Minor comments:

      • Several extended data figures are redundant with main figures and do not provide additional value (e.g., Fig. 2d vs. Extended Data Fig. 3a; Fig. 2f vs. Extended Data Fig. 3d; Fig. 2C vs. Extended Data Fig. 4b; Fig. 3d vs. Extended Data Fig. 4c). The authors should consolidate or remove duplicates.
      • Figure citations in the main text do not consistently match figure content. For example, on page 7 (lines 5-6), the text refers to Extended Data Fig. 4a for SOX9 staining. Yet, it is the extended Data Fig. 3a that contains the relevant data. Similarly, the reference to Extended Data Fig. 4b and 4c on page 7 (lines 7-8) for adult defects is inaccurate.
      • In Figure 2e, percentages of Sertoli cells across three layers are shown. The figure legend should specify which layer(s) show statistically significant differences between WT and KO.
      • The current color scheme for F-actin and TUBB3 in Figure 3 lacks sufficient contrast. Adjusting to more distinguishable colors would improve readability.
      • Since multiple scale bars with different units are present within the same figures, adding units directly above or beside each scale bar would improve readability.
      • It is recommended to directly mark Sertoli cells, spermatogonia, and spermatocytes on the SEM images in Figure 2C for clearer visualization.
      • The quantification of Sertoli cell positioning shown in Fig. 2C is already described in the main text and is unnecessary in the figure.

      Referee cross-commenting

      I concur with Reviewer 2 that the Map7-eGFP mouse model is a valuable tool for the research community. I also agree that performing MAP7-MYH9 double immunofluorescence staining to demonstrate their colocalization would further strengthen the authors' conclusions regarding their interaction. My overall assessment of the manuscript remains unchanged: the study represents an incremental advance that extends previous findings on MAP7 function but provides limited new mechanistic insight.

      Significance

      This study investigates the role of the microtubule-associated protein MAP7 in Sertoli cell polarity and apical domain formation during early stages of spermatogenesis. Using GFP-tagged and MAP7 knockout mouse models, the authors show that MAP7 localizes to apical microtubules and is required for Sertoli cell cytoskeletal organization and germ cell development. While the study identifies early Sertoli cell defects and candidate MAP7-interacting proteins, the mechanistic insights remain limited, and several conclusions require stronger experimental support. Overall, the discovery represents an incremental advance that extends prior findings on MAP7 function, providing additional but modest insights into the role of MAP7 in cytoskeletal regulation in male reproduction.

    1. But even if you can whip out a phone-calculator from your pocket, that extra step is still a hurdle that disincentivizes actually doing that work.

      While a phone calculator makes math instantly accessible, the act of pulling it out and opening the app introduces an extra step that discourages people from actually using it. This reinforces the laziness in people and that convenience means everything.

    2. As a personal example, in experimenting with ChatGPT, I tried several times to get it to generate a multiple-choice exam about this essay, and it failed miserably—it looked reasonable if you weren’t too familiar with the material, but it really couldn’t zero in on what the important, relevant things were to test for; and so, all the quiz questions (and everything else in this course) are fully human-created, not just human-edited or -curated.

      I have been in this position before and it is so frustrating. I attended workshops about using AI for rubrics and I tried so many times and it would not highlight the learning outcomes of the assignment. At this point it took me longer to edit the AI produced rubric rather than creating it myself

    3. Both mirrors and AI can be mesmerizing, causing us to fall in love with our own reflection, like Narcissus in Ancient Greek mythology. LLMs can do this because they’re generally designed to flatter and anticipate what the user wants (to keep the user engaged). This can generate seemingly deep conversations that lead the user to think some magical awakening is happening with AI, as if it were an actual mind.

      The reference to Narcissus in Greek mythology emphasizes the danger of becoming enamored with one’s own reflection—whether literal or digital. The text critiques how LLMs are designed to flatter and anticipate user desires, which can create the illusion of profound, mind-like conversations. The annotation suggests that this effect is not genuine intelligence but rather a psychological mirroring mechanism that risks misleading users into attributing consciousness or depth to AI systems.

    4. AI cheating is disrespectful to instructors. While it’s part of our jobs to read entire essays written by students, it’s a complete waste of an instructor’s time to read and evaluate an essay written by AI but pawned off as a student’s own work.

      I totally agree with this. When a student submits AI-generated work as their own, it misuses the instructor’s time and undermines the trust that’s essential in a learning environment. Instructors spend significant energy reading, assessing, and giving feedback with the assumption that the writing represents a student’s genuine thinking. I feel like many professors were in school themselves at one more and put forward the effort to get where they are today and expect that from students aswell

    5. Similar to mirrors that can only reflect the light they receive, LLMs are confined to operating within their training data and whatever other data they have access to, such as the open internet (which still has lots of errors and information gaps since it’s so biased toward Western traditions and knowledge). But humans aren’t bounded by their past; we can extrapolate into the future, into the unknown. Unlike LLMs, we can venture into truly novel territory and ideas, as well as reason from first principles.

      The biggest claim here is that humans are uniquely able to imagine, infer, and reason beyond what we’ve already seen. This suggests that genuine creativity and forward-thinking are human strengths that cannot be outsourced, no matter how advanced AI becomes

    1. Results of clearance tests on C. nucula showed low clearance rates, compared with values reported elsewhere [13], [14]; retention rates, however, were high, that is, the sponge expressed a strong impact on suspended bacteria.

      Acknowledging that the clearance rates were low while inversely affecting retention potential, I think the statistics that the authors provided raise questions about what exactly would have to be done environmentally in order to increase sponge health. It would be wise to learn how to utilize these filters as tools, as reducing waste and microbial loads will not just have a beneficial affect on them, but the water quality around as well.

    1. ESP32​ The ESP32 chip is older and consumes more power than the nRF52 chip, but is equipped with both WiFi and Bluetooth. Supported ESP32 devices include:

      ESP32 MCU supports both wifi and BT. Higher power consumption though.

      In general, as this network is supposed to provide alternative comms when regular networks break down: how reliant on battery / solar powered devices is the network?

    1. When you send a message on your Meshtastic companion app, it is relayed to the radio using Bluetooth, Wi-Fi/Ethernet or serial connection. That message is then broadcasted by the radio. If it hasn't received a confirmation from any other device after a certain timeout, it will retransmit the message up to three times. When a receiving radio captures a packet, it checks to see if it has heard that message before. If it has it ignores the message. If it hasn't heard the message, it will rebroadcast it. For each message a radio rebroadcasts, it marks the "hop limit" down by one. When a radio receives a packet with a hop limit of zero, it will not rebroadcast the message. The radio will store a small amount of packets (around 30) in its memory for when it's not connected to a client app. If it's full, it will replace the oldest packets with newly incoming text messages only.

      You use your phone or 'companion app'(?) to send a msg to a radio (over BT, wifi or wire). The radio broadcasts incoming messages, including the one you provide through the app.

      Msgs that are not acknowledged by another radion will be send at most 3 times. (will you be able to see it has not propagated?)

      A radio that receives msgs already received will not rebroadcast it. Any broadcasted msg has a 'hop limit' and if it hits 0 it will not be rebroadcast. This limits the spread of a message, no? What is the default hop limit? Otoh the hoplimit does not limit the initial number of paths for broadcasting. So it's an attenuation over paths.

      Theoretically in a dense network, my msg may reach Y number of other radios that all start out with the same hop limit.

      I do not see here yet how you could intentionally set and reach a specific recipient. This description provides attenuated propagation of messages but no direction/addressee?