I like the way that MN does inline annotations within his comments section. I don't often see this, but it's relatively well done, and certainly manually at that.

Check out this shout out from the American Press Institute.

Or better yet--in-line annotating! Open interoperable standards-based annotation, of course.

Great summary.

So important. Pushing comments to the bottom not only disconnects them, it makes them look ancillary. They can be crucial.

This structure reproduces the old hierarchies, with commentators as bystanders whom you can avoid.

The annotation feature in the Center of Excellence is provided by Hypothes.is which is an open source annotation tool. Within the Community we use it for group collaboration, private coaching, and personal research. By adding the Chrome browser plug-in, users can expand annotations to include other web pages across the internet. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCkm0lL-6lc

Start Using Today https://hypothesis.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/230742327-Quick-start-guide

This is my annotation post.

A high-level technical explanation of how Dropbox's PDF annotation interface is implemented.

Quite interesting for Hypothesis.

Of course Hypothesis uses threading as well.

But is threading really the issue? Isn't is more a matter of the correct "parenting" of forums and replies? It's part of the skill of discussion/discussion forums that student-users read other's posts and not repeat what has been said before...

This authentic discourse is definitely better achieved via annotation in which students self-select passages to annotate and annotations to reply to.

Use in presentation!!

Arquivo.pt (the portuguese web archive) - An interesting service model of Web archiving

This is a pretty useful example of a paragraph with subtext, don’t you think? Could easily imagine future readers and annotators coming to this passage and scratching their heads for a minute while looking at the date. What happened nine months before June 2017? Living outside the US, it took me a few seconds to guess it (and my guess may be wrong). Of course, Martha was “playing for the audience” (though DoOO is having an impact outside the US). There’s indeed a shared understanding that events in the political arena may be relevant in our work on digital literacies.

Therein lies the rub. Especially if this is to be “easy”.

Whaa..? This sounds seriously hard. But remarkably clever.

Which is probably why @judell’s tate doesn’t show up in Chrome on my system and there’s weirdness with the scrolling once we accept to load unsafe scripts.

Speaking of which: https://hyp.is/RmUKwLvpEeezPrvjHE4Lwg/wisc.pb.unizin.org/objectivists/chapter/lorine-niedeckers-blackhawk-held/ via https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1JoWwyQMpX8ge9Oxk3o3reECVfiJJ6SvB6zPzUbgDDt8/edit#slide=id.g2293d0c2ef_0_69 Gives:

http://media.sas.upenn.edu/pennsound/authors/Niedecker/Niedecker-Lorine_08_Foreclosure_Factory-School-Archive_11-1970.mp3

Ha! So that’s where the comment about Rory McGreal should come in.

Hence the need for #OpenAnnotation to pair up with some of the other opens. Hypothes.is people are doing their part, but still.

Years ago, link suggestions were pretty high on my wishlist for WP. Did notice early implementations of this feature but haven’t used the improved version. It does sound like the current version is pretty useful and can lead to something interesting. Might also work well with annotations, come to think of it.

Test annotation

Tim Berners-Lee calls for annotation in his original proposal for the web.

This should be the tagline for annotating in education.

Pretty good definition of social reading in fact!

In the nineteenth century when all other universities were religiously affiliated, it seemed odd that rather than having a church at the center of the campus, UVA would have a Library as its focal point. This plan reflected Jefferson's belief that the church should be separate from the state and since this was a state school, it had to be in accordance to this ideal. Therefore, the Rotunda, which was the building that ultimately replaced the typical church, represented/ symbolized the "Virginia Statute of Religious Freedom" because it separated the school from any specific religious affiliation, allowing for a free expression of faith on campus. This plan also reflected the idea that knowledge should be the driving force of humans and is the most important and powerful weapon one can have. The Rotunda can be defined as a "temple of knowledge" because it celebrates education.

Further, in my engagement class, Making the Invisible Visible, we discussed how some locations are places while some other are sites. The difference between these two is that places evoke familiarity and are meant to represent something important in people's lives while sites resist familiarization. The Rotunda could therefore be considered a place because it draws people in and it has certain features that makes it a memorable, unique place. The grandiosity of this building makes people feel like learning is an awesome thing, which accomplishes Jefferson's goal of celebrating knowledge over all things.

This passage was one of the most baffling ones I found in the Rockfish Gap Report because it is not only ironic but it seems to be very untrue. I do realize that the meaning of "equal rights" during the time of UVA's construction and founding is not the same as today's meaning, the one I am most familiar with. But I believe that as educated scholars and active members of the community, the authors of this document and founders of this university were aware of the inequality that existed at the time. In my engagement class, Making the Invisible Visible, we have discussed issues regarding Thomas Jefferson's thoughts on slavery. After analyzing some of his personal texts, we concluded that he was aware of slavery's perverse end and he knew that it did not contribute to equality among all human beings. However, he believed that in order to keep the structure of society, slavery had to exist. Thus, I believe it is very hypocritical that, knowing the inequality present in a society where slavery was still prominent, the authors of this report still decided to include "not violate the equal rights of another." I would feel more comfortable if they had not included this part or if they had specified who "one another" meant, which obviously meant "whites." Nonetheless, I understand that the report's intended audience was all educated white people, thus it must have felt useless to specify who "one another" meant if only one specific group of people was supposed to read it.

Here I have highlighted the title of the Compass Journal. I can add my notes here and also links like this to the Clipper Blog. I can also insert images like this

Page notes in EPUBs are related to the webpages that embed the specific EPUB.

This is something I would like for my iPhone as I use the share sheets a lot, but I'm not sure how widely they are used.

One line of code adds open, standards-based annotation to any website.

So again, the idea that we wanted to facilitate not close off discussion of papers.

Major difference with Hypothesis. Enabling annotation only in a specialized content repository drastically limits the utility of annotation.

I think about this a lot now that my business is annotation.

I concur. Diigo could have been a leader in the social annotation space, way ahead of Hypothesis. But now I think H is gaining more momentum than Diigo, because it adheres to open standards.

MyStickies is another annotation service

Great quote for OpenStax.

I would like to know how they imported the book. I am pretty sure they took the HTML from cnx.org, but the numbering is being done differently than our online version.

Are these also in the copies/adaptations spreadsheet?

I can't tell if this is an actual copy or not, because it is "locked". In the menu "OpenStax Textbook" they link directly to the openstax.org listing of the book.

I think this "copy" is just a hardcover book. Maybe we should count them separately in some way.

Why is my highlight completely messed up?

I think one of the ideas I'm struggling with here. Is web annotation just about research, or to advance conversation on the web? I sense this is part of decentralization too (thus, an ecosystem), but where does it fit?

Though the degree of variation around this figure means it's not very useful on its own as a benchmark.

early development of the World-Wide Web at CERN. The Internet was already well established by then.

Digital #annotation is currently demonstrating a model for discussion much like Michael describes, where "discussion" (as annotation) is a separate, generic service and different manifestations of that service can be harnessed for and surfaced in various platforms for different uses. See Hypothesis' work, especially with a Canvas LTI integration.

这是CNN之前的思路，需要手工地把特征标注出来。话说Annotations不也是手工标注吗？

For DUN participants: Use this text to practise using annotation with Hypotesis. Put your annotations in the group DUN-annotate https://hypothes.is/groups/ee1jLEXz/dun-annotate

human solutions FTW!

Here's another concern:

Let's say this bot-powered annotation "agora" starts to operate as Mike has laid it out. The annotations from that credibility activity alone may start to become noisy—and much noisier if 1,000 other bots start annotating for other purposes.

One solution would be a dedicated "credibility" layer, where only the annotations from "registered" or "approved" credibility annotators appear. That way a user could activate just this credibility layer to focus on credibility signals.

But if there's going to be a "credibility" layer, who is going to gatekeep participation? One might imagine a trusted, "neutral" organization that would publish criteria for participation in this credibility layer and enable annotators that meet such criteria.

And just as there could be multiple annotators—bots or human—with different points of view posting to such a layer, there could also be multiple credibility layers, each administered by a different organization with different points of view, sources, and/or approaches. A sort of agora of credibility agoras. Users could then pay attention to the credibility layers they find most useful.

But, users could pay attention to just the credibility layer they find most agrees with their established point of view. Would this just move the same issues we see with the credibility of information to the credibility layer itself? Would #fakecred become an industry like #fakenews?

I'm generally in agreement about the problem area and solutions Mike proposes here. One thing we probably certainly know is that the "automated, centralized, closed approaches" that we have already seen attempting to address issues of this scope are unlikely to solve all the issues we are already seeing around credibility.

Could we use "agora" or some other term rather than "marketplace" to suggest that not all activities in the space will be mercantile?

I refer to this sentence in my annotation above, as it seems at odds with Mike's earlier statement that this is a tools debate, not a legal one.

Not trying to nitpick, but I'm a bit confused between this statement and the one below where Mike says "We're vulnerable to state-sponsored attacks, he says, because we are too narrowly technological in our solutions."

So far in this debate I've been thinking that we are too quick to jump to technical solutions (as Mike's latter point would suggest) when I don't think the issues online are categorically different than they are offline. While certainly tools can help shape social relations and culture, we also have social/cultural mechanisms to deal with situations generated via online tools.

Abuse is not limited to online activity and remedies for abuse are not purely technological. If a person abuses another offline, we have (imperfect) mechanisms to address that abuse. Are we considering those offline mechanisms in our confrontation with online abuse?

I wonder if she would close comments on her site if all were constructive? From my read, it wasn't that she didn't want to engage in conversation.

That's me!

This is a first test. Can we use hypothes.is as part of the Moodle?

video overview of textthresher by Nicholas Adams

data annotation from Susie Lu at Netflix

Really useful session well worth your time! All the longed for teacher, student, researcher, creator & user annotation desires for the web, at long last on the way to fulfilment!

video with Gardner Campbell along with Jeremy Dean and Jon Udel from Hypothes.is

image annotation tool for Omeka

The ideas of "capturing" and "packaging" knowledge suggests a mindset based on monetizing rather than empowering knowledge makers. The new metaphor of zebra not unicorn startup business models suggests "profitable businesses that solve real, meaningful problems and in the process repair existing social systems" might serve us all better than Genius' "pivot" to media.

An annotation about annotation.

An annotation about annotation about annotation.

Just like how Moses designed the bridges to be too short for buses to fit under, similar tactics have been used to deterr homeless people and other unwanted people, such as skateboarders. Some of these tactics include no loitering signs, metal spikes in the ground where homeless poeple usually would lay down, and studs placed on ledges to prevent skaters from grinding their skateboards against the ledge.

In the supplmentaly reading, it stated how over 130,000 signed a petition to have the metal spikes in the ground removed, which prevented homeless people from sleeping in those areas. The article continued on to say that despite this large number of people petitioning against the attempts to deterr homeless people, not many people have realized that everyday objects that we use, such as benches, have been strategically designed to prevent anyone from sleeping on them, homeless people more specifically.

Sadly enough, descrimination can be seen all over, not only in words or actions, but also in less obvious ways, such as architecture. The layout and placement of specific neighborhoods or cities, or how certain buildings, bridges, and roads are constructed is an example of how architecture can be used as a method of discrimination.

And if you use annotation, it can be annotated in-line already!

Felt way more appropriate to comment here than in the comments at the body of the page :).

It was humbling to interact act with such dedicated researchers and practitioners and to watch these documents take shape.

Thanks, everyone!

Another big thank you! As I've mentioned on Twitter, your course's "re/turn" to a previous Marginal Syllabus conversation (from October) is what Joe, Jeremy, and I hoped would happen over time - that educators would find conversations and texts that resonate with their interests and courses, and then join the text-based conversation via ongoing annotation. This turns the text-as-conversation into an open educational resource (OER), and - like you - we hope other educators and courses revisit these conversations to support their own learning.

I've had students say similar things about using Hypothesis to read together. I'd like to explore the relationship between open/collaborative web annotation and community-building... many questions to consider...

Awesome. Is it possible to connect with some of these posts and perspectives?

This is important, and in my teaching I've been careful to include web annotation in both private (group) and public modes so that learners find comfort with different approaches and can come to appreciate some of the scaffolding that you describe.

You're very welcome, and we're appreciative of your willingness to merge formal course activities with the more open-ended and interest-driven approach to educator learning via Marginal Syllabus.

A publicly visible and annotated syllabus is a great practice, and something I'll incorporate into courses - great idea!

This is quickly going to become a bit meta... :)

Like Douglas, she plays this game on the preexisting turf of the white man. I suppose it is easier to infiltrate an organization than to create a new one. Certainly a new church would be separate; but equal?-probably not.

Again, already on this!

test annotation

FORCING us to keep track of our annotations is OPPRESSIVE and SILENCES our organic voice and STIFLES creative thinking.

Hypothesis activity pages could solve this...

Really cool.

This is a powerful differentiator from Comments.

This is so important to understand.

This is an interesting moment as we think the rhetorical tradition as a series of annotations, and as we recognize our own historical embeddedness.

This sounds like the concept of the motivated sequence (take public speaking, folks) where the speaker inspires the audience to take action, and I think this concept is brilliantly illustrated in Mark Antony's speech from William Shakespeare's Julius Caesar. This brief clip from the Mankiewicz film demonstrates how Mark Antony provokes a unique passion from his audience that directly leads to action - the chaos that consumes Rome in the second half of the play/film. There a plenty of examples of this motivated sequence from pop culture, but Shakespeare/Mankiewicz/Brando illustrate it brilliantly.

Now we know who made annotation #1,000,000!

Annotating the body.

The level of access--I guess that's scale--seem quite different.

How different would our definition(s) of rhetoric be if we viewed it through the lens of another ancient civilization? I think what this article (and many of the articles which we have read) is saying that in order to gain a broader and deeper understanding of rhetoric, we must view it from the perspective of multiple cultural interpretations.

Alludes to the "Q" question, possibly. To know if something has been fully "rhetoricized," we must understand how it falls into the context of rhetoric. Meaning we must understand how it influences and is influenced by rhetoric.